Right now the only threat the ‘soverign citizens’ represent is an excuse to prepare the people for the coming crackdown; make an example by force of law and blood to those who may stand in the path of Obama and make it as dramatic and horrific as possible.

no, better blame alchemics.

Sam from Florida
Hey Glenn…have you seen this? Consider the implications.
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/info_schedule_battle/Anti_Government_Phobia.html

Sorry Glenn…I guess that was an onion bit…the doctor’s name is Ivor E. Tower. Got me!

 It’s just an excuse for the leftists that Obama has placed in the FBI to carry out political assassination against citizens that are strongly opposed to leftist ideologies and government intrusion altogether. “Sovereign citizens” is a bogus designation. There are people all over our country terrified of our own government and they’re determined to resist if the government starts trying to round them up. It’s what Ron Paul would call blowback.

It’s simply a fact of the way things will play out. WILL play out. The more authoritarian our government becomes, the more “resistance groups” will form and the more popular these groups will become. These groups are populated by wildly varying backgrounds, and there are nearly as many that lean left as lean right.

The only solution to this issue is: 1) If our federal government continues to be determined to enforce an authoritarian globalist agenda they are going to be forced to confront domestic opposition which will result in bloody chaos in the U.S. and all the conspiracy theorists that have been worked up over “FEMA Camps” will be validated. 2) Our federal government assesses the situation and understands that it must return to an alignment with the Constitution and rapidly withdraw the overreaching authoritarian system that it has created.

The status quo is already past the tipping point. It will result in chaos if it isn’t rectified. It will result in horrendous chaos if it continues in the direction it is currently headed. We have to have major reforms, and without a huge immediate reform of our federal government chaos will ensue to a greater or lesser degree.

i love gbtv

“will let us (Republicans) continue to put things like arsenic and mercury in the water of the American people” Democrat Leader Harry Reid Said.

Harry Reid stated, basically, that the GOP wants to Poison the Water supply    .Leftist Harry Reid Uses the ‘Big Lie Principle’ (tell a lie often enough , it becomes real) to Demonized the GOP
“” The New Democrat Party (a Statist Party) ? Where there is Not much separation of Church and State and Both Church and State become a collective ‘Social Justice’. CHOICES 2012: Four more Years of Class Warfare ,Group Vs Group , old vs young, black vs white vs brown, big government takeover, Nationalized Health , Tax Money being allocated based on politics,,etc. to Distract the public and achieve more collective party control over society (note new laws in 2010) OR Elect Someone Else. “”                             

Here it comes!!!  Woo hoo!!

Wow Glenn,  First you admit yopu know very little about sovereign citizens and then you act like there is no threat from them.  Around here, local law enforcement refer to them as “slobbering citizens”.  They tend to also be part of a movement Posse Comitatus more commonly known locally as “Posse Comatose”.  Many of them don’t believe in buying car tags.  Most would be extreme Ron Paul supporters.  There Glenn, now you can change your mind and find them dangerous just like RP.

I’ve heard of the domestic terror threats – and terrorist acts – - 13 people killed on an Army installation in Texas a year ago and national guard recruiters being shot while in their offices.  By whom?  Muslim extremist.  FACT: over 80% of muslim mosques in america teaches and promotes teachings by the Muslim Brotherhood, you know, those guys that have taken over Egypt, holding 16 americans hostages…How about using some common sense and a common sensual tactic, called “Profiling”…But that would be a “Politically incorrect” thing to suggest…

 You are a racist and a bigot.
If you want racial christian purity seek a home elsewhere.

Well put!

I am glad to see that glenn wants to turn a blind eye to militant domestic terrorism.  I guess Oklahoma City didn’t teach glenn anything.  

Apparently you did not learn anything either. Most of the Domestic captures since that date have been either Arab immigrants or Muslim converts.

He isnt being racist, muslim is a religion not a race and illegals are not a race, they are people illegally residing in our counrty…He is just upset that theymight go after law abiding citizens before real terrorists or criminals.

You two bit piece of liberal scum who is bitter at everything and anything because you have not a life.  Why else access a site you are despised, hated and made fun of???   A good knuckle sandwich would cure you

1. A “two bit piece of liberal scum”. Oh gosh little lady, sorry if I offended you.
2. “made fun of?” What is this, junior high school. If you think that your little quips, or those of other becklings actually hurt? What next? The silent treatment? You and your little clique are so pitiful.
3. “knuckle sandwich”…again…so cute…you wouldn’t even have a chance to pick up your senile fist…little bitches like you always talk tough but never deliver

Just for you little man:

For today, and every day you post here, I will post your lies on every comment you make on this site…. Your hate and ignorance is not winning any converts here. You’re the butt of jokes and ridicule.Please see a professional about your fixation on little children strtlk/mtclayboy.You’ve been caught in your lies and have no credibility here. You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Flag the idiot.

Just for you little man:

For today, and every day you post here, I will post your lies on every comment you make on this site…. Your hate and ignorance is not winning any converts here. You’re the butt of jokes and ridicule.Please see a professional about your fixation on little children strtlk/mtclayboy.You’ve been caught in your lies and have no credibility here. You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Flag the idiot.

Just for you little man:

For today, and every day you post here, I will post your lies on every comment you make on this site…. Your hate and ignorance is not winning any converts here. You’re the butt of jokes and ridicule.Please see a professional about your fixation on little children strtlk/mtclayboy.You’ve been caught in your lies and have no credibility here. You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Flag the idiot.

Just for you little man:

For today, and every day you post here, I will post your lies on every comment you make on this site…. Your hate and ignorance is not winning any converts here. You’re the butt of jokes and ridicule.Please see a professional about your fixation on little children strtlk/mtclayboy.You’ve been caught in your lies and have no credibility here. You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Flag the idiot.

Lol. Liberal troll. Back under the bridge with you, dimwit. *shoos strtlk*

Awww. Do you work for Obama? Do ya? Hmmm??? Away with you, troll.

Troll. I Lol’d. You can go get that paycheck from Obama now. Cus you’re wrong.

This administration has been extremely effective at arm twisting the liberal elements of our law enforcement and military to fall in line with the leftist portrayal of Christians and libertarians as terrorists and anti-government insurgents.

As much as we admire our service men and women, at almost every echelon, our law enforcement and the military are two of the most marxist organizations on the planet. They have to be to function on the scale that they do. They must have a working class and a ruling class in order to operate, and they see Washington, unfortunately, as the prime directive. 

What does this mean for us? It means they will eventually adopt any policy handed to them, ESPECIALLY by the president, in order to maintain what they see as the proper order of the republic. 

We need to take this threat very seriously. This is how most dictators come to power. It can and is happening right here, right now.

LOL. You’re like the Beck’s Internet SS. The cyber-gestapo for the fusion of enlightenment and entertainment.

Go away STINK, So There for further comment on your post.

Lame come back. At least ask him for his address to go give him that “knuckle sandwich”.

Do you really think you are effective?

STINK part two. Your name is SKANK

Glenn here is paving the way for an American Anders Brevik. I gotta say, I am here often reading threads and all this neocon sh*t of “taking our country back where it belongs”, “deposing the gay agenda”, “hip hop is not art”, “Obama is a Muslim extremist”, “let’s invade Mexico and kick Mexicans out”, “Religion is under attack”, etc. etc. etc. all this crap is going to be taken way too seriously by someone with just the twisted will to blow and shoot people up. Not heard about them? Heard of Giffords?

Maybe? either way his real name is STINK and fine tapestry’s name is SKANK

SKANK

and you are STINK

The two trolls names are STINK and SKANK, everday we have to read there crap.

TROLL
A troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.  According to Tom Postmes, a professor of
social and organizational psychology,  “Trolls aspire to violence, to the level of trouble they can cause in an environment. They want it to kick off. They want to promote antipathetic emotions of disgust and outrage, which morbidly gives them a sense of
pleasure.”

Nice.

LOL. Yours is giggling-school-girl.

Do you really think I care what you think?

Thanks!

He was saying by the DEFINITION the FBI and DOD puts on them he can’t figure out who exactly that is because it could be anybody.  Please pay full attention next time because what Glenn is explaining is a danger to every citizen of this country.

How about the Fort Hood shooter, the guy that murdered the recruiting officers in Little Rock, the dimwit that put the bomb in Times Square and all those other barbaric bastards that are out there visibly assaulting this country in real numbers? How about them? How about the 6400 arrests at OWS? How about those radicals? How about we round up all those law breaking scumbags before we start portraying vague groups of conservative mainstream Americans as possible terrorists? How about that? :/

Never use the word gestapo again. Ever. :/  

Does anyone care what Fine Toiletries thinks?

His Mommie might.

I don’t see anyone going to those extremes except one group of people – Muslims – - the same group you defend, you miserable excuse of an american

Why?

Worry about them too. It’s not one or the other. We must protect ourselves from ALL threats. Glenn here just thinks that if some mentions “dough” some is calling him the doughboy.

Doesn’t know who sovereign citizens are? A google search will show that. No, that would not make a story slant the way he wants it to. Sorry I’ve seen enough of his examples.

You only see them because you are the epitome of American bigotry and xenophobic conservatism. You look at Obama and see a Muslim. That’s how f**ked up your mind is.

I thought we were going to discuss the South African Constitution.

Glaad you agree.

Glaad you agree.

I’m glaad you’re glaad. Stop your whining.

Ouch!  I’m sure that hurt luv a lot…I could feel their pain from here – LOL!

I’m not the one experiencing an identity crisis as you – i’m fully aware i’m male, interested in only females, unlike youself, so who’s got the twisted mind?

You had your chance but it is not the subject of this particular blog.  I’ve already stated Nelson Mandela, the first president under their new consitituion, which he had contributed to was a self professed communist who wrote the manuscript “How to be a Good Communist”.  Am I right or can you prove me wrong – I publically challange you

In other words, you’re chicken sh*t who hasn’t read it, only about it. Chicken.

I have no crisis. I am very much sure I’m interested in males, that I come from an Arab-Muslim (with even some Chinese) background, and that I believe in the teachings of Christ. I’m an American born citizen, I deplore Glenn Beck, and I wish the Republican nominated Ron Paul, so I don’t have to vote for Obama. I have no crisis on any of this things. And I know people are going to be very different than me. You, on the other hand, think that if someone does not conform to your ideas has an identity crisis.

LOL!! For the sake of others interested in discussing important matters under the subject of this blog, i will not go “tit for tat” with you anymore.  I will only say you again, had an opportunity to dispute my contention for which you miserabaly “failed”…And on last item:  You sir or madam, whatever you are, would never say what you just said to my face, i promise you

Give me your address and put your claim to the test.

You asked for my address?  New Orleans…Contact me when you get here…LOL 

He says he teaches at a collage. More like cleans toilets in a collage.

He teaches how to clean toilets at a College.

He teaches how to clean toilets at a College.

New Orleans is a city, not an address. Chicken.

 Hey w.Parker:It is almost pointless trying to talk to a true American citizen now. They think they are little gods that can do anything without consequence. I almost feel sorry for them.

This one is SKANK

SKANK

You come from a SKANKY background SKANK

SKANK, I’ll be nice again

Just call it Fine Tapestry what it is a SKANK

SKANK heeheehee I am giggling

That is too nice SKANKY TOILETRIES.  everyday we have to read thier crap and vulgarities.

It’s not important what people like Fine Toiletries says or thinks. Stay true to your thoughts and beliefs.

He or It who knows is interested in anything because he is a SKANK

oh yes.

You are like uhhh,,,,,,,,,,,I know a SKANKY BIGOT TROLL

The left call us on the right fascist but the God Obama is the real fascist otherwise why would United States citizens have the right to a fair trial taken away. Not even Bush would do that and they called him a Nazi. This proves my point that the left are full of hypocrites like Fine Taspestry who likes guys unless Glenn is defending them or strtlk who accuses Glenn of lying but lies about everyone from Glenn Beck to Bill O’relliy by calling him a molester without no proof or Victor Tiffany so stupid he can’t even keep his lies strait if his life depended on it.  We all know these trolls names and if Bush was doing this there would be riots by the left in the streets but since it is their guy taken are freedom away they want to do nothing to stop him. I say we call out their lies and stand up for the constitution of the United States not South Africa and turn this country back from their loony ways. Anybody but Obama 2012!

 I always laugh at comments like this.  The ‘go to’ comment is always Racist!!  Well, if you read his comments, you will see that there is no racism exhibited anywhere in it, the term “Illegals” is not a racist term it means someone that is in our country in a way that violates our laws.  That is not racist or bigoted.  If not wanting someone to live in a place that violates the law is ok with you, please post your address and I will advertise for anyone of any skin color, faith or ethnicity to illegally move into your home.  I am so very glad that you are so tolerant when it comes to your personal space.  I hope Cass Sunstein is paying you well and that you have had that very expensive ‘conscious extraction’ surgery performed on yourself.

Keep white washing the facts and history!!!Dance around racist comments by only using Muslim or Illegals. Please tell me how many stories you and your racist klan have written about those horrible Canadian immigrants!!! Keep fooling yourself!!!

Just for you little man:

For today, and every day you post here, I will post your lies on every comment you make on this site…. Your hate and ignorance is not winning any converts here. You’re the butt of jokes and ridicule.Please see a professional about your fixation on little children strtlk/mtclayboy.You’ve been caught in your lies and have no credibility here. You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Flag the idiot.

From the description on the FBI’s website concerning ‘sovereign citizens’, it looks like our current POTUS is one as well
Commit murder and physical assault;  Maybe not murder, but allowing the Black Panthers and his favorite Union buddies to carry on without a care– seems to be condoning it.Threaten judges, law enforcement professionals, and government personnel;  Georgia judge, maybe?  Sheriff Joe from New Mexico?  Threatening not to pay govt. employees to push a point?  I’m sure there are more examples…Impersonate police officers and diplomats;  Ah, big one!  Impersonating a natural born citizen of the USA?  Pretending to be the President!Use fake currency, passports, license plates, and driver’s licenses; andEngineer various white-collar scams, including mortgage fraud and so-called “redemption” schemes;  Fake SSAN, fake certificate of live birth, fake American.  As far as scams are concerned, Glenn has pretty well exposed those, yet they continue to grow in number.

Just a question (because liberals refuse to answer it)….  Who is paying the commie libs who troll the Glenn Beck site? 

STD is nothing but a senile, racist bitch who has compiled a stack of lies and lazily cuts and pastes them to intimidate. He is so weak, when I told him the truth about their length and the results, the spineless little puppet got scared and shortened them up. Veteran my a**!!!

Just for you little man:

For today, and every day you post here, I will post your lies on every comment you make on this site…. Your hate and ignorance is not winning any converts here. You’re the butt of jokes and ridicule.Please see a professional about your fixation on little children strtlk/mtclayboy.You’ve been caught in your lies and have no credibility here. You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Flag the idiot.

I proved every point in my post using your own words Phony Soldier. You’re a liar and a bigot, plain and simple.

Folks, flag this idiot and be none with him.

Oh, so original…
The Troll bullsh**? That is a new one!
Then you back it up with the “paycheck from Obama”?
Very creative little bitch aren’t you?

For today, and every day you post here, I will post your lies on every comment you make on this site…. Your hate and ignorance is not winning any converts here. You’re the butt of jokes and ridicule.Please see a professional about your fixation on little children strtlk/mtclayboy.You’ve been caught in your lies and have no credibility here. You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Flag the idiot.

Keep lying little puppet!!!

Obama’s government, and the government liberals dream of, is threatened first and foremost and above all by those who believe in fundamental liberties endowed upon us by our Creator. There is no greater threat to the philosophy of those who believe that government is the fountain from which all good things flow and we citizens should be glad to get it and shut up. Just ask Justice Ginsburg.

It’s all the truth in your own words, Phony soldier.

OOOOH You tried to make a funny. Ha Ha Ha Ha

Seems the one yelling “racist” is most often the racist, strtlk.  I’ll be you are a Muslim and a racist. : )

Too freakin’ funny!!!

I know, right? Ha Ha Ha Ha

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I believe Glenn is right.  Conservative Patriots are being setup.  First the NDAA, now the reasoning behind it!  FEMA Camps readied, additional food supplies requisitioned, military being brought home, questionable President with leftist Czars and Congressmen doing his bidding!  All puzzle pieces revealing the same sordid picture coming together. 
Get ready American Patriots!

What abt those islamist colonies that are armed to the teeth!?

Does this mean he acts as the brush in a, “How to give a swirly”, course?

That is not nice, talking about shredded traps like that!

I might be a ‘sovereign citizen’ – where do I turn myself in?

I don’t get it, Glenn knows about
obscure connections between Code Pink and Palestinians, but he has
never heard of Sovereign Citizen. Oh ya Glen lived in the NYC cocoon,
glad you moved to reality-land down in Texas. I have been around the
law enforcement scene for a long time, every now and then these SC
guys pop up on the radar. The West Memphis incident sent a shock
through the blue line and I think that was where a lot of the SC
propaganda stems from.

Hey Glenn thanks for warning everyone
about the Hutaree, remember the “Christian Warriors” that planned
on killing a cop then attack the people at the funeral. Crazies come
in all shape, sizes and political orientations, the FBI puts out
information that help cops meet their number one goal….go home at
the end of the shift. Glenn we don’t have a bunch of bodyguards to
keep our families and us safe, only information and our sixth sense.

In every group there is a fringe
element that is criminal and dangerous. Ever wonder why Outlaw Biker
Gangs where a “1%’er” patch, I bet’cha it ain’t cause they are
working for Goldman-Sacks.

Anyone notice that when fine tap speaks, strike is absent?     Who does (do they) he think he’s fooling?    I would love to see them together, wouldn’t you?

strtlk is a seminar poster. He posts on a schedule. Fine Toiletries is just a typical liberal irritant. He’s irrelevant as most Liberal posters go.

Have some fun with him, it’s the only thing people like Toiletries are good for.

The way I see it, and I may be wrong but, I don’t think so.   Doesn’t man plan and there’s God smiling?    These mortals think they’re so darn smart!    Don’t anyone count Him out.

Like my favorite teacher once say troll they are think they do not. Same brain they use yes. Yoda.

Time for this law to go to court.  It is patently unConstitutional.  I had problems when Bush put Padilla in jail, incommunicado at that!  That was unConstitutional in the extreme!

SoThere, you have the hook sunk deep ,no?
It appears he seeks you out, knowing he will be bested in debate and ideas….this is foolish on his part, and yet he cannot resist you….why is that?

I bet it’s hero worship.   ” So There”  has struck a cord, albeit a bad one for trolls from the left.   Much like “The Kramer”…….”He is a loathsome, offensive brute, yet I can’t look away.”     Priceless!

He fails to mention that those “compiled a stack of lies” are composed of [his] stack of lies in his own words.

I reply to his posts but he does post first and waits for my replies. As a man goes, he’s irrelivant but he is a Phony Soldier who lies about his military service and that can’t be ignored or let stand.

Real Military personnel have died for this country and the Phonies have to be identified and pointed out. Vinny is the other who spews his lies about being in the military. He gets the same treatment.

“I’ll be you are a Muslim and racist”?
What the heck is that?
The next time you try to put someone in their place, make sure that your third grade grammar failures do not come back to ruin your punchline.

Stop, stop, stop, you’re killin’ me… LOL!!!

Its very simple. OWS is part of the movement Obama is leading. They are the violent street cadre that will cause violence in the streets that will cause government to demand more power and more police and the people will be so worried they will go along. They are real criminals. Sovereign Citizens and many others who don’t like what Obama is doing are called Objective Criminals. That is to say they haven’t committed any crimes and likely never will, but they have politically incorrect thoughts. They don’t believe and think correctly, so they represent an ideological threat to the movement. So, some of the more fringe elements get singled out, isolated and ridiculed, depriving them of much support. Maybe some will be provoked into doing something stupid but if not, they will eventually be targeted. Perhaps for tax evasion, maybe a childcare issue, something. If the movement gets away with taking them down, more groups of objective criminals will follow.

…like the moth to the flame………

 
Please see a professional about your fixation on little children strtlk/mtclayboy.You’ve been caught in your lies and have no credibility here. You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke. 

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed. 

Take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Flag the idiot.

 You are a moron and liar.

First off the answer to Glenn about soverign citizen’s.It’s a person that divorces him/her self from the U.S.This is done by a legal process.In the end the person gets diplomatic immunity as a forenier on dispach to the U.S.as a diplomat.The soverign is concierd by the f.b.i.as a paperwork terrorist.most are trying to live their lives in the style some where between the Amish and the Indian nations.I hope this givesw you enough info to go on.

They pay taxes and are a protected class so they will never be seen as a threat.

Reductio ad Hitlerum, also argumentum ad Hitlerum, (Latin for “reduction to” and “argument to” and dog Latin for “Hitler” respectively) is an ad hominem or ad misericordiam argument whereby an opponent’s view is compared to a view that would be held by Adolf Hitler or the Nazi Party. It is a fallacy of irrelevance,
in which a conclusion is suggested based solely on something’s or
someone’s origin rather than its current meaning. The suggested logic is
one of guilt by association.

Its name is a variation on reductio ad absurdum, and was coined by an academic ethicist, Leo Strauss, in 1953. Engaging in this fallacy is sometimes known as playing the Nazi card,[1] by analogy to playing the race card. The tactic is often used to derail arguments, because such comparisons tend to distract and anger the opponent.[1]
While an ad Hitlerum is often used to directly compare a statement to a
view held by Hitler, it can be used informally to compare any thing to
any other thing. The term ad Hitlerum can be used to describe most
association fallacies.

 Just to clear something up: Actually Islam is the religion and Muslims are the people who follow it. One can be racist against Muslims, as people, but telling all the truth you want to about Islam will never make you a racist. Islam itself is racist by design however. Indisputable Fact. So the cries we head of racism when we are only telling the truth about a philosophy that is actually more political than religious are a deflection. Speak the truth abut Islam all you want. It will never make one a racist.

A tried an true strategy, no?

Typical liberal “arguement”…call them all a racists and bigots…no facts, no logic, no sense, just call everyone names!

Maybe you should listen to the clip again Bob.  I mean really listen.

Of course, you are describing Glenn’s favorite card: the Nazi one. (Is recognizing the Nazi-card play on someone else playing the Nazi card?)

A rather self defeating masochistic strategy on the part of strtlk.

Even with the truths exposed by SoThere, you would think in self preservation mode, this phony would have some sense of self?
I view SoThere’s artistry as a masters work in the making,nO?

And yet this defines him as a man?
Weak, ineffective, and a liar to boot, no?

It would seem so… kinda sad.

“Soverign Citizens a threat?” not likely folks, these guys however are far more sinister in their approach: http://northwestfront.org/  They conceal their white sepratist ideology with images of wholesome famlies, and soft languange, do a youtube search for “NVA attack video” and see the domestic terrorist fantasies these racists have.

I wanna know how this bill got past Congress.  And why does this particular president get by with this crap when no other president in history could have?  This is where, in person and face to face, I tell people that the evidence pointing to the correlations of Revelations and today are unmistakable.  I suggest people read that as much as they read any other source of information.  At least with the Bible, you get a warning of what’s happening next.

You just described strtlk perfectly.

Hey stupid, Jared was a Giffords supporter and democrap. You are one dumb M F er.

The Weather Underground did not teach you anything either. You really are one dumb M F er, sticky chin.

People do your homework, to be “sovereign citizen” means to separate yourself from the commercial, corporate, United Sates government,(HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHY THE CENTER OF OUR GOVERNMENT IS A DISTRICT AND NOT PART OF THE COUNTRY THEY CLAIM  TO REPRESENT?) and the authority of prison industrial complex which this country has become, and distinguishing the individual as a sovereign man as distinct from the enslaved corporate construct or “strawman” which has been created in your name as collateral for the un-payable national bankruptcy which was declared in the early part of the 20th century.

All american citizens should be aware that the birth certificate (as distinct from a certificate of live birth) is entered into record as a financial instrument and yes CITIZENS you and  I are traded on the public markets.  THIS NATION WIDE SLAVERY came into effect shortly after the emancipation act.  Funny that, they made it illegal to own a man and perfectly permissible to own a whole nation of men, women and children.

All politicians and law enforcement at all levels swear an oath to
protect the sovereign man.  However no such oath exists to protect the
interest of the strawman they have established in your name to represent
you in your affairs.

Many of the wealthiest people on the planet are in fact sovereign citizens and answer to a`standard of conduct set forth in the Magna Carta and and the Holy Scriptures and not the military tribunals that are our supposed constitutional courts.  Our courts lost the “constitutional” protection in 1861 when the congressmen from the 13 southern states walked out during session.  When the quorum was lost there was no precedent in the constitution to re-establish congress and it still hasn’t been fixed to this day.

Abraham Lincoln declared a national state of emergency and in doing so he relinquished his role as president and became commander in chief of the military.  EVERY “PRESIDENT” since Lincoln has re-declared the national state of emergency and assumed the role of commander in chief of the military. 

So, in short, they have been at it for about 150 years and they have stripped away little by little our assumed “rights” to the extent that they no longer have a need to be sneaky about it.  We have all been indoctrinated and dumbed down  enough and they are turning up the heat.  But don’t fear, basketball season is right around the corner.
 

If you think the constitution applies to you the individual, you are sadly mistaken.  There are 39 signatures on that social compact and unfortunately yours and mine are absent.

They have to demonize the sovereign man otherwise they would not have the revenue from every fee, registration,tax and license they require.  Look up the definition of the word license.  Interestingly enough, it is defined by Blacks Law Dictionary as: “In the law of contracts. A permission, accorded by a competent
authority, conferring the right to do some act which without such
authorization would be illegal, or would be a trespass or a tort.”

Q: Now how is it that our fine representatives have created a license for virtually EVERYTHING INCLUDING YOUR DOG???

A: Because you ARE the collateral for the national bankruptcy.
Read more: LICENSE | Definition of LICENSE (Black’s Law Dictionary) While you are there look up the definition of strawman and know that one has been created to represent you CITIZEN.We’re not in Kansas anymore Dorothy.  Wake up, educate yourselves and forget American Idol for a couple days.

BE CAREFUL! A false flag is coming!

There will be a fake terrorist attack blamed on white “anti-government” people! This will give the government the needed pretext to crush those who like the constitution!!

The irony is the founding fathers would’ve been labelled terrorists by the US government and a drone missile would of been sent into their house.

Coming from you, that is high praise.
The worst a beckling like you could do is compliment me.

Thanks again Glenn. I always look forward to you.  Thanks for not feeding us pablum  Since we can no longer be safe in saying what we think anymore I’ll leave it at that.

They can imprison my body but my soul will always be free. The government will never stop me from speaking out.

Yes are government would do that and I am starting to wonder if Obama is trying to set himself up as king making what the founders did a waste of time because of the power hungry fools on the left and right.

Yes are government would do that and I am starting to wonder if Obama is trying to set himself up as king making what the founders did a waste of time because of the power hungry fools on the left and right.

WOW  Mr Beck doesn’t know what soverign citizens are?  HELLO?  Do you live under a rock?

Google Johnny Liberty and you will see what a sovereign citizen is.

Please see a professional about your fixation on little children strtlk/mtclayboy.You’ve been caught in your lies and have no credibility here. You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Flag the idiot.

I’ve done the research on soverign citizens and they are the ones who are right.They have done their homework and have gotten to the root of the problem in this country. It is first, the 14th amendment, which was ratified illegally and created the strawman. It made us,the people, do buisiness as corperations, operating under the laws of commerce. In addition, they realize that all law is based on trust law. Now I’m not talking about criminal law because if the rule; do no harm, is violated we are no longer talking about civil matters like ordinances and things of that nature, we are then talking about criminal law. But if you refuse to participate in the volutary income tax, you are not doing harm. If you dont go get a drivers license, you are doing no harm. So it is a matter of trust law that guides these types of issues. There is plenty of info on this subject. Arron Russo’s film From Freedom to Facism touches apon it. Harry Reid even said income tax was a voluntary tax, that was a rare instance of honesty. Another source is Mary Elizabeth Croft, who wrote a book about her soverign self. It is 90 pages and available to read free online in pdf form. Another which describes the root cause, the 14th amendment, is Bruce Ray Riggs at dirtyunclesam. com.This movement is huge in Canada also and there is a youtube channel that has a class recorded, I dont recall the instructors name but you can search strawman trust law and find it. I get that Glen Doesnt understand it, he says as much and then has been hired as a spokesperson for a tax lawyer company. But if he and you were to look into it and do the research you would see that this is viable, and not only that but it is a way to get to the root of the problem and remove yourself from the playing board alltogether. Look it up, or in other words, do your homework.

Whatever.  just see the post. 

The use of the words “racist” and “bigot” are nothing more than Leftist name-calling designed to spoil the message by tainting the message-giver. Fortunately, the Left has “run out of ammo” with this one and no one gives a rats ass anymore about these pathetic attempts to do so. We defenders of Truth and the Constitution are on to all. The game is up strtlk. You come into my neck of the woods and we’ll give you a lot more that name-calling. We’ll show you the power of an informed and armed populace that intends to flush your vile sort down the toilet of history.

He or whatever is seeking something out.  I think STINK needs attention.

My God, you’re a fool.

see So There’s post, can’t miss it.

18 arrests? There were 6400 OWS arrests. OWS Murders and shootings compared to what? … food owners and gun owners? It’s called a false premise. The average american that owns a gun and some extra food isn’t a terrorist. Get it through your head.

18 arrests? There were 6400 OWS arrests. OWS Murders and shootings compared to what? … food owners and gun owners? It’s called a false premise. The average american that owns a gun and some extra food isn’t a terrorist. Get it through your head.

Let me put this in real simple terms for the morons out there: Conservatives that own guns and extra food are being painted as terrorists and lumped in with obscure terrorist organizations by defining the suspicious activities related to those organizations as conservative and libertarian activities and beliefs.

If you’re FOR this, you’re FOR the round up and slaughter of innocent Americans *their* blood will be on *your* hands. You idiots are playing a dangerous game with other people’s lives. Get it through your stupid heads.

These guys have been around for a long time.   My dad is one these days.  They’re a little heavy on the conspiracy theory and tend to get hung up on details like “governments are corporations” (which really doesn’t mean a whole lot once you think about it and understand what a corporation really is) and whether or not your name is IN ALL CAPS or not, and why gold fringe on a flag in a court room is a dead giveaway that you’re really living in The Matrix and all you have to do is show the judge you have a red pill and the virtual walls will come crumbling down and he’ll just ask you to leave and dismiss the case.

They’re not altogether wrong about what’s wrong.  But they’re also not far from the “cough drop guy” in Glenn’s  Common Sense Comedy tour… as a matter of fact, you’ll find a disproportionate number of cough drop dudes among them. And they are, in general, attracted to the much broader Tea Party movement.  I’ve met my share of them.

They have their extremists like any other group.  But ultimately, I’m not worried about them and just try to steer them toward the truth.  They’re headed in the right general direction, but they’re off course, IMHO.

Are Catholics now on the terrorist list because they refused to obey an unconstitutional law?

It’s not the number of perpetrators, it’s the number of victims. Stop spinning your gun kissing mind.

Actually, he was not democrat nor republican. Just like Beck claims to be. But he shot a democrat, didn’t him? Thanks for the insult. Feels nice when someone notices.

I are one

B. S.

I rather believe so, for why does he continue in this vein
when it’s obviously not his “cup o tea.”

He drinks a lot of cool aid.

That was truly funny…

I will be here are week.

It’s sad that you so easily play the racist card. After reading and re-reading postings you have commented on, the only racist I see IS YOU!  You seem to see racists behind every blade of grass.  If you would like to see a true racist, then just look in a mirror

So you are to “Keep me in stitches?” LOL

 strtlk:  So what is it if it isn’t racism when you and the government keep calling white conservative religious people terrorist?  Your arguments are flawed.  It is also kind of funny that I heard your hero Hilary Clinton talk about going to the south as a young republican to fight racism.  Check some history and you will find that Abraham Lincoln who freed the slaves was a republican and it was republicans who fought against the racial problems in the south, not democrats.  It was the democrats wearing the hoods.  They are still keeping blacks down, but now it is more insidious, because they enslave them with welfare.  It might also surprise you that in 1844, the Mormon prophet, Joseph Smith outline a platform for president of the United States which included the idea of ending slavery. 

You sure can talk big, when you don’t have to come face to face with someone who disagrees with you. People like you are why we are in the mess we are in.

If he isn’t a Muslim, then why did he let them have their day of prayer in the White House, and kneel on the rug with them, but did not have a national day of prayer for Christians? He has already stated that when it comes to us and Israel, he would side with the Muslims.

Just face it, he is someone who likes attention, and I guess this is the only way he can get it. He probably doesn’t have any friends, because they get tired of hearing “its all about me, and I am the only one that is right”. Really sad, don’t you think?

Recall the late 90′s book “The Sovereign Individual”.   Describes a post-nation-state type of world as a result of more educated, resourced, self-aware individual people, egged-on by a form of pseudo-tribalism (enabled by the internet and mass-media) that less and less observes the relevancy of country and borders.  Factor in creeping marxism (dilute the family unit, disconnect from religion, promote education strictly in secularist mode, rebel against all authority, etc) and the compound glue which holds traditional society together seems to be thinner all the time.

What a thought, then what this illegal in The White House is saying?? We THE PEOPLE HAVE NO CONSTITUTION TO PROTECT US FROM OUR GOVERNMENT!! This not going to fly guys!! Wrong country, wrong people to even think you can get away with it.WE ARE THE PEOPLE. We are not illegal trespassers, illegal drug pushers,muslims. We did NOT bomb us on 9-11. We have built this country generation after generation improving, developing,  living as a peaceful nation helping the World and feeding nations. We have paid for own education,homes,clothing and food. Raised our children and successfully lived together in small and large communities through out our country .One nation undivided with liberty and justice for all. And a few think they are going to get away with this I DON’T THINK SO!!!! We know our rights and stand for OUR GOD, OUR FAMILY, OUR CONSTITUTION!! WE ARE A COUNTRY THAT HAS LAWS BASED ON OUR RIGHTS! GOD GIVEN!! NOT OBAMA GIVEN!!!!!! UNITED WE STAND!!!!!

You are a disgusting Sow who expells slop for words – Oink Oink  You are a reject and joke, not only to society but to Glenn’s site. 

not a legal solution though.  as long as you’re on US soil, you’re subject to US laws – that’s why we can arrest illegal aliens.  If the US didn’t have jurisdiction to enforce US laws on US land, the illegal immigration problems would be larger than it is now.

also, under international treaties, every person must have a citizenship, meaning you can’t give up your current one unless you have a new one.  and of course, you can’t get a new one unless the new country agrees to it.  if you’re unwilling to abide by the laws of a country, and are willing to tell public officials, they’re not likely to grant you citizenship.  that means you’re stuck with US citizenship, even if you tear up all your papers (*hint – tearing up papers doesn’t destroy the rights and responsibilities they represent…it just makes a mess)

also, only those people on the State Department’s “Blue List” are allowed diplomatic immunity.  They must meet certain criteria, including obviously, being the official diplomat of a recognized country.  ”Sovereign citizens” don’t meet this criteria, obviously, being neither official, nor of any recognized country.

also the Indian reservations were created by treaty with the US federal government, which is why indian reservations are federal land.  the tribes were sovereign, as far as the government was willing to allow them to be, which is why they get casinos.  Amish are still under the laws of the US, but obtain waivers for religious reasons for things like schooling (which home-schoolers get as well).  but if they commit traffic violations or breaches of the peace, you can be sure they will be dragged into court the same as any other US citizen.

hope this helps.

not a legal solution though.  as long as you’re on US soil, you’re subject to US laws – that’s why we can arrest illegal aliens.  If the US didn’t have jurisdiction to enforce US laws on US land, the illegal immigration problems would be larger than it is now.

also, under international treaties, every person must have a citizenship, meaning you can’t give up your current one unless you have a new one.  and of course, you can’t get a new one unless the new country agrees to it.  if you’re unwilling to abide by the laws of a country, and are willing to tell public officials, they’re not likely to grant you citizenship.  that means you’re stuck with US citizenship, even if you tear up all your papers (*hint – tearing up papers doesn’t destroy the rights and responsibilities they represent…it just makes a mess)

also, only those people on the State Department’s “Blue List” are allowed diplomatic immunity.  They must meet certain criteria, including obviously, being the official diplomat of a recognized country.  ”Sovereign citizens” don’t meet this criteria, obviously, being neither official, nor of any recognized country.

also the Indian reservations were created by treaty with the US federal government, which is why indian reservations are federal land.  the tribes were sovereign, as far as the government was willing to allow them to be, which is why they get casinos.  Amish are still under the laws of the US, but obtain waivers for religious reasons for things like schooling (which home-schoolers get as well).  but if they commit traffic violations or breaches of the peace, you can be sure they will be dragged into court the same as any other US citizen.

hope this helps.

no one’s paying me.  i wish there were a conspiracy as large as the one in your own head…then i’d actually get something out of it.

unfortunately, most of what you posted is patently untrue, and vaguely paranoid.  the world isn’t as scary as all that.  even i never went that crazy when bush was in the white house, and i thought he was a terrible president.

no one’s paying me.  i wish there were a conspiracy as large as the one in your own head…then i’d actually get something out of it.

unfortunately, most of what you posted is patently untrue, and vaguely paranoid.  the world isn’t as scary as all that.  even i never went that crazy when bush was in the white house, and i thought he was a terrible president.

yup, and then the Church instituted practices banning people of African descent from participating in Temple services or becoming part of the priesthood until 1978.  Which shall we choose as the correct take-away from the historical example?

the parties have also changed a lot since the days of Abraham Lincoln.  After the Republicans began utilizing the southern strategy in the 1960s, which was based on pulling in white voters who had previously voted Democrat, but were upset with things like the 1964 Civil Rights Act, they basically lost the ability to claim that they were the party of African-American advancement.

Hillary Clinton was a leader of the Young Republicans in 1965, but stepped down because her views changed due to civil rights and the Vietnam war – which makes sense since it was around that time that Republicans were beginning to court the white Southern vote.

Whether the Democrats are doing better or not would probably be something to ask a black person, but since the Democrats still get a majority of black votes, that should provide some evidence that they don’t think well of the Republican party.

I’ll bet you were indulging in a few mushrooms while reading Revelations!

Dear Alicia,Thank you for your feed back.For the most part I do have to agree with you.When a sovereign citizen strays from his/her land they are subject to the laws of the land,So are the Amish and the Native Americans when they stray off the reservtion.When they keep to their land they are a law unto them selves.I am not a sovereign but I have known a few and have research it and it is not for me.Where they screw up the most is they can’t last long confined to their land.unless have a lot of it and can become 100% self reliant,When one uses a thing that belongs to the government(money)it voids what they have acomplish.It is a complacated kind of thing to pull off being a sovereign.That is why I’m not one.

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not a legal solution though.  as long as you’re on US soil, you’re subject to US laws – that’s why we can arrest illegal aliens.  If the US didn’t have jurisdiction to enforce US laws on US land, the illegal immigration problems would be larger than it is now.

also, under international treaties, every person must have a citizenship, meaning you can’t give up your current one unless you have a new one.  and of course, you can’t get a new one unless the new country agrees to it.  if you’re unwilling to abide by the laws of a country, and are willing to tell public officials, they’re not likely to grant you citizenship.  that means you’re stuck with US citizenship, even if you tear up all your papers (*hint – tearing up papers doesn’t destroy the rights and responsibilities they represent…it just makes a mess)
also, only those people on the State Department’s “Blue List” are allowed diplomatic immunity.  They must meet certain criteria, including obviously, being the official diplomat of a recognized country.  ”Sovereign citizens” don’t meet this criteria, obviously, being neither official, nor of any recognized country.
also the Indian reservations were created by treaty with the US federal government, which is why indian reservations are federal land.  the tribes were sovereign, as far as the government was willing to allow them to be, which is why they get casinos.  Amish are still under the laws of the US, but obtain waivers for religious reasons for things like schooling (which home-schoolers get as well).  but if they commit traffic violations or breaches of the peace, you can be sure they will be dragged into court the same as any other US citizen.
hope this helps.
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These ruthless maniacs are clogging our court systems with their frivolous lawsuits, victimizing innocent private citizens with their ridiculous tax avoidance and financial get-rich-quick schemes, threatening and intimidating our judges and all levels of law enforcement, and taking it upon themselves to steal foreclosed homes because “banks aren’t real”.  Good Lord Glenn, you are truly out of touch.  Or you’re a sovereign citizen yourself. 

Here Glenn, get acquainted with a few of these “non-threats”:  
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/SCM.asp?xpicked=4&item=20

http://www.patrickpretty.com/2010/12/21/recommended-reading-anti-defamation-league-outlines-activities-of-sovereign-citizen-groups-report-notes-instances-of-bogus-liens-filed-against-public-officials-including-former-president-bi/ 

Please Email me at onexharry@yahoo.com so we can arrange a meeting and see how senile i am you liberal sack of S,,,,,,,, Im sure i can free up a few days to “Talk” to you about the dribble that spews from your keyboard. Please feel free to contact me and im SURE we can be great friends!

wow…
nice try old coot…
there is no way in God’s green earth I would let a cray glenn beck cult member know anything personal about me!!!
Frickin’ senile idiot!

Too bad some of us already do.

Please see a professional about your fixation on little children strtlk/mtclayboy.You’ve been caught in your lies and have no credibility here. You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Flag the idiot.

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