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The morning on radio, Glenn played an audio clip of Texas Rep. Joe Barton interrogating DOE Budget Manager Christopher Johns on the reduction of the DOE vehicle fleet. The Inspector General recently came out and said that that the Department of Energy’s fleet needs to be reduced, the problem is, the Budget Manager for the DOE claims to not have a clue how many vehicles it actually has.

The Department of Energy has been “focused” on reducing its fleet by 35%, an interesting claim recently made by their Budget Manager Christopher Johns when he was recently asked about the fleet reduction by Texas Rep. Joe Barton in front of Congress.

Barton first asks Johns to confirm the number of employees there are in the DOE, which is confirmed at 15,000. Next, Barton tried to confirm the number of vehicles in their fleet at 15,000 – the response to that question was a bit different. Without addressing the question about the number of vehicles in the fleet, Johns says, “That’s part of the reason that we’ve been focused on that issue, on reducing the number of vehicles that we have by 35%.”

When Barton tries again to confirm the number of vehicles, Johns says that he would, “prefer not to answer,” “I’m not going to be able to give you that answer,” and a third time says, “I honestly don’t know the number of vehicles.”

“You don’t have a clue and you’re the budget manager for the Department of Energy?” Barton asked again in the audio clip.

This is just one example of the utter incompetence of our government. “Why are they reducing the number if they don’t know how many they have?” Pat said. “Shouldn’t you count them up first.”


Glenn explained that the committee had the documents, so why won’t Barton confirm the number under oath?

“Here’s a question,” Glenn started, “How many vehicles do you think the Department of Energy needs?”

How do they plan on reducing by a percentage without a starting number or the knowledge of how many vehicles they need?

“These people are the biggest liars, I think, we’ve ever assembled in one place,” Pat said.

“So incredibly disingenuous – just bad, bad people,” Glenn added.