Here comes the ritual of all birthers meaninglessly throwing stones at Beck. Beck tries to pander to them by spinning it so the whole thing fuels his convenient hypothesis that Obama’s life story is not real. As if his own story was all squeaky clean. This fat alcoholic and addict’s story is of a pathetic pudgy boy who would become the Goebbels for right-wing Republican propaganda.

It is unfortunate that he is from this country it would have been an easy way to throw him out.

Look at the Prince of Racism, glenn beck, bring out a birther story to blame the President for more lies from Breitbart who is still haunting us from Hell!!!

“ doesn’t believe this document does anything to negate the president’s birth certificate or any other document that confirms his birth in Hawaii”,    hey glenn,,,,,the birth certificate and “any other” document (barrys selective service form) have already been proven to be manufactured documents.

keep trying to mock us birthers glenn, you are starting to look like a fool.

The point of the birther movement is rule of law. If natural-born citizen is removed from the constitution, the document is meaning less. http://blog.doodooecon.com/2012/03/obama-eligibility-is-about-rule-of-law.html

Glenn: A properly constituted legal investigation (Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s cold case posse) has investigated the copy of Obama’s long-form birth certificate posted on the White Hourse website and concluded that it is a forgery. That’s NEWS, buddy; you IGNORING NEWS makes you part of the cover-up, as far as I can see. DON’T CONFUSE THIS NEWS with the claims of birthers. The document issued by the White House is a forgery does not mean Obama was not born in Honolulu. It means the White House is either incompetent or a bunch of liars (or both).

Glenn Beck will only believe in information he uncovers, that’s it. The reason he could go after Van Jones and others is due to their history, writings and speeches. However, he won’t buy anything about the mystery man, Obama. Glenn is nothing but a self serving hack that wouldn’t know a true story or news if it didn’t feed his pocketbook and ego. From an EX fan of beck’s.

 While I saw the “Elizabeth Warren” angle as a possibility, too…and it would also explain why he doesn’t want to release his college records, given that he allowed this statement to be put out there, I think he owes the country the official birth certificate now just to put the matter to rest.  Elizabeth came out of the “I’m using the race card to get ahead” closet and the backlash has been minimal, Obama might as well come out too. 

Actually, I should have said Elizabeth was pushed out of the closet and the backlash was minimal….
 

Not only is this distracting from the real issues (the economy, high unemployment the total interference in our freedom), but it is taking away from the immediate issus like Rev. Wright being bribed, the Whitehouse being directly involved with the DOE funding to the failing Green Industries, and the hold up in supplying the requested documents in the “Fast and Furious” debacle. These small bumps in the road are keeping us from dealing with the major potholes in the Obama Regime! Very well crafted sensationalistic leaks to give cover to more pressing issues! Very clever!!! Just like “gay marriage” was timed to avert attention, so is this sudden revelation of a promotional brochure.

Comment often on a piece before you actually read it?

Sheriff Joe said he has affidavits from well known TV hosts that they were threatened if they dared to mention the eligibility situation.    Glenn left his show because Media Matters, which had declared “Guerrilla Warfare” against all of Murdoch’s holdings, were threatening his employees.
Fox News mentioned that the government was going after sheriff Joe for violating civil rights of citizens who were profiled.  No mention at all of Sheriff Joe’s investigation of Obama’s eligibility and findings of fraud. 
Glenn must know we all assume he was threatened to shut up or else.

Hey Glenn , what’s up with you on the whole birther thing?  I mean, you make entire movies about obummer’s lies and deceit, but refuse to believe he might be lying on this issue…regardless of the very legitimate issues on the birth certificate he released (look at it, it’s very dubious in it’s information and composition), and this new info. Not to mention what his own family members have said.  I’m not saying I’m firmly in the birther camp, but I’m not ready to rule out another whopper in the long list (many that you yourself have pointed out) of his history of lies. 

You decided early on that you were going to take the “high ground” on this one, and ever since have repeatedly ridiculed anybody taking a more skeptical approach to this issue. When it comes to barry, one can’t be too skeptical in my opinion. As you keep reminding us.

Is it because it wasn’t your idea?  What if I said, “barry was conceived at the selma march, end of story, end of debate, case closed, let it die, period”. Should I expect you will just drop it, regardless of evidence and time lines that contradict?   Stop the water carrying on this one already, it’s getting really old.  And while you are at it, stop calling people morons, that don’t think a lezbo like ellen should be a national spokesperson for a retailer marketing to kids and traditional families. It doesn’t make you seem sophisticated, it makes you seem phony.  

I”m so disappointed in you Glen.  This  may be the most important story in recent memory and you mock the growing evidence that this president is a fraud.   I just do not get how you can investigate deeply other matters but on this one issue with all it’s shadowy documents and cover ups you turn aside.  You constantly report how this president circumvents the constitution and is not transparent but on this you think he’s legit?  Really?  Just saying…

Sorry, Glenn….love ya to death, but you are WAAAAAAY off on this one. He has NEVER produced a real birth certificate; the two pathetic examples posted online (one during the campaign, then that last joke…) were horrid PhotoShop efforts. I mean really, really bad. Both were gutted within hours by experts.

It just amazes me that you and your crack staff refuse to delve into this one as so many others have. Tell Joe Arpaio how Obama’s a citizen. Tell his team. There are numerous, solid, sober researchers who have come to the obvious conclusion: the man is NOT a native-born American, he has yet to produce a genuine certificate of live birth.

You have done such amazing work in showing what a fraud he is, how his entire life is one made-up fairy tale……yet you punt on the single most important aspect of this usurper’s breathtaking fraud perpetrated upon an uninformed public.

Like I said…..absolutely love ya, guy, but damn it all, wake up and smell the coffee.

?????

This must be an attempt at some form of satire. All I could make of it.  

Only difference is Beck is very upfront about his life, and the unflattering things he has been and done. Obummer wants you to believe something that is complete fantasy. Truth hurts, huh?

They told Glenn what he could report and what he better not report, all hard truth will be met by preditor drone, assination, navy seals, heart attack, etc…..

I love you Glenn, but you’re 100% wrong here.

You always tell your listeners to “Question with Boldness…”.  Well your “I’m not a Birther” seems like a little, yellow cop-out.  There is the very simple matter of producing a birth certificate with a raised stamp that you or I or anyone else would have to do to satisfy a driver’s license or I-9 form or apply for a passport.  An electronic “Certificat of Live Birth” that has a Photoshop signature simply would not be acceptable for us mere mortals.

Add to that minor problem the fact that Hawaii has not responded for 8 weeks to AZ’s request for the simple acknowledgement that they have BO’s birth certificate on file, and that gives me a mental “strike 1.”

My “strike 2″ comes from the fact that his Selective Service credential has the SSN of a dead guy from Connecticut.

And my “strike 3″ comes from the October 2004 Illinois Senate debate where Alan Keyes alleged BO was Kenyan-born and BO’s response was “So what, I’m not running for President.”

Stick to your principles, Glenn.

Joe Arpio – Arizona’s famous border cheriff – did a serious 2000 hr research on Obama’s latest birth certificate to destroy the myth and prove the ‘birthers’ wrong only to find out that the birth certificate is a fraud. He gave an official press release -video on the internet- which lays out in detail what was done by computer to produce this birth certificate which is a fraud. What happened to the press conference news release? Why are not more people informed on this? Why did the news media other than one Arizona TV news story hide this news? People – also you Glenn Beck – please dig it up and listen and hear and inform yourselves. It is a shame that nobody other than Joe – who is now being hunted by Obama – has taken this on and challenged this fraudulent birth vertificate. Eventhough I love Glenn Beck for what he has done on Fox News, I am surprised he can not do better than redicule the birthers. Please, I am very disappointed Glenn that your staff can not do better.
Everybody – dig up the video of the news release from a couple of months ago – and thank the Sheriff Joe Arpio for that.
R.R.

Of course he didn’t notice his publisher had got his place of birth wrong for 7 years.  What is so unusual about that?  It’s not as if he writes his own biography or checks it before it is published.  I am sure there is nothing unusual about having a Connecticut social security number having never lived there.  A small detail.  It’s just a coincidence that the birth records coinciding with Obama’s birth were removed from the Kenyan registry.  As for the forged birth long form birth certificate and the forged selective service card – just coincidences.  Yes, Obama’s word that he was born in Hawaii is good enough for me!

Glen Beck is nothing more than a media wh_re.

Well, that’s not the ONLY difference, but your point is well made and will sadly be lost on Fine Tapestry, in all likelihood.

Glenn had a visitor just like Clinton, shut up or end up shot like Bill’s buddy in Arkansas. Chelsea would be next, Glenn’s kids would be next. Put nothing past this regime, nothing.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/obama-admins-plan-incite-martial-law-elections-dhs-info

there was a time when I enjoyed listening to Beck.. not so anymore.. his ability to ignore forensic evidence is astonding, and his general direction is so fragmented that there doesn’t seem to be any coherent and consistant objective to his principals… I know that he is not an Obama fan, neither am I , however , I have studied the evidence of Obama’s origin and have found way too many inconsistances to just pooh pooh any new or refreshed links that lead to Kenya… Beck blows it off like your some kind of nut if you don’t agree with Beck.. exactly what Obama does.. so it was by mistake that I got to this article .. one I won’t make again

Although I am not a “Birther”, I support Arizona and their position regarding Obama’s citizenship.  If you haven’t heard or read what Arizona is planning to do, here it is in a nutshell:

A state official in Arizona has asked Hawaii for verification of the information on Barack Obama’s birth certificate, the document that Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s special investigative team has concluded may be a forgery. Members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party, who petitioned Arpaio to investigate Obama’s eligibility, say they are awaiting word from the state secretary of state regarding whether Obama’s name will be on the 2012 presidential ballot in Arizona. Secretary of State Ken Bennett had promised to ask Hawaii officials for verification of Obama’s documentation, vowing that if answers are not forthcoming, Obama’s name will not be on the ballot.

GO ARIZONA.  It appears only Gov. Brewer, Sheriff Joe, and Ken Bennett have the backbone to stand up to the Counterfeit-in-Chief.

The write up in the Drudge report was never meant to question his birthplace or kowtow to the “birthers” It was intended to illustrate,exactly  as you pointed out, that the guy will lie, fabricate, twist, and selectively omit, anything that will enhance his personal aura for unabashed poltical ends. it goes straight to the character of the man which is abundantly flawed, And if Romney does not start pointing this out soon, he will lose a very valuable edge in his bid for the presidency.

Yah. Sure. As if he doesn’t lie. Keep sucking your thumb.

Glenn, it was you who said not long ago that anyone who does not believe obama was born in america was “crazy”…You have to be “crazy” to believe that fake document is “real”.  You have to be “crazy” to believe anything that comes from obama’s mouth

Ok Glenn, prove it!

Glenn, you’ve really fornicated the poodle on this issue.  Shut up and study it before doubling down again on your intransigent ignorance of the BC and related documentation issues.

What happened to question with boldness?  So the rodeo clown is claiming a duly elected sheriff’s findings, the fact that the selective service deleted ALL records, a 1991 non-biased brochure from Harvard, 60 something lawsuits dismissed before discovery was allowed, no college records or passport records, bowing to kings and pandering to the muslim brotherhood are all good indications that we should chase the prez out by vote when he is apparently not eligible to even be on a ballot is the best plan?  Oh sure, let’s leave kagan and sotomayor on the bench and forget what he has done to the country while he was almost certainly not eligible.  Not to mention the multiple trips taken by the the king, queen and family on our dole.  Then let’s discuss the illegal and unconstitutional czars and laws implemented by executive order.  Naw, we can forgive all that and VOTE him out.  And I’m sure soros will make sure the count is fair and legal.  Don’t worry about that debt thingy either, we’ll all just roll up our sleaves and pay for it, oh that’s right it won’t be us anyway, our kids can worry about that crap!  So then mr beck, what happens in 5 years when we find out for certain that we gave up our country, Constitution and the entire fort knox gold reserve and gave the auto manufacturers to the unions because of a man that wasn’t what he claims to be?  It won’t matter that we put an end to our space program and can’t even change the batteries in our spy sattelites and stripped the military so we can’t defend our shores and left ourselves more vulnerable than EVER in American history because YOU and oreilly believe the man that has his finger on the button of the world’s most terrible weapons in history is “ok by you”.  Oh that’s right, he also reduced our nuclear arsenal by 80% so that won’t be an issue either.  Can’t put your finger on the trigger of something that doesn’t exist!  What a concept!

I am CONVINCED bho is ineligible a HELL of a lot more than you are of his eligibility and I HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW who’s selling us out every day of his life.  A RIGHT PRESCRIBED BY OUR CONSTITUTION!  I was once told that to get a guy take his money or his honey.  Since I have no chance at your honey I’ll be taking my money.  Cancel my subscription.  At least I can make the difference of at LEAST ONE man.  You won’t be collecting from me any more.  That’s ok too.  I know that since you have been taking our money you’ve also been selling the time WE pay for to commercial interests so you’ll probably have plenty.  Won’t be mine though.  I’ve had enough of your own bullcrap.  You’re more right than you think.  Once you have power you lose your soul.  You’re living proof

Eventually the truth will be told about exactly where Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro was really born.  I’m not convinced with the information that I have seen and studied.  It doesn’t add up.  I have heard Michelle claim that her husband was born in Kenya in video.  Was she lying then?  Too many inconsistencies in the story.

For you to take this lightly, Glenn, is very disconcerting.  The issue is not whether he is born in America.  The issue is why is he not forthcoming with a copy of his birth certificate, which he would have to provide to even receive a passport.  He can be a citizen and still not qualify for presidency under our Constitution, arguably the greatest written document next to the Bible.  Where is your support for the Constitution?  Should we just stand by and let it be trashed so we can keep our focus on the economy, the election, the unemployed.  Those items would have no importance, at all, if it were not for the Constitution.

Explain exactly wht makes Beck “racist?” Is that all you pathetic leftists have in your arsenal? F**king idiots.

It doesn’t matter where he was born.  His father was never a US citizen so he is not a natural born citizen and is ineligible for president.  He may or may not be a legal citizen, but that doesn’t matter.  A citizen that is not natural born (mother & father were US citizens at time of birth), is not eligible for president.  The reason that natural born citizen is used under requirements for president & VP, unlike other federal posititions that only recquire citizenship, is that our founders did not want a president with foreign allegiances that might not put US considerations first.  We have seen this problem happen with Obama.

Glenn, you have been sitting in the sun too long.  The revelations on Obama’s birthplace hit you smack in the face and you never blink. You are blinded by your earlier stance.

This is the big issue, not the economy. This is the usurpation of the presidency, the destruction of the constitution. Is the unemployment rate more important than this?

Beck is a little looney. What makes him so sure O’ Keyan was born in Hawaii.

(Facts) would be good Glen. If we had his school, or collage records, and an explanation of the multiple SS # we may be better positioned to make this decision. With what there is , a forged birth certificate, he would be up on charges if he were a white republican.

Glenn, you must be a closet liberal.

…….AND where is Beck on this single issue, Christine???? You’ve hit the nail on the head. Beck’s got his head buried in the sand. Too bad.

On the other hand, if strlk really *did* read the piece, that does not speak well for his intellectual acuity. His reading comprehension level would definitely be in the lowest quartile.

Hmmm. And if the problem’s not just an abysmal IQ, d’ya suppose the main reason liberals and conservatives don’t see things the same way is simply because… they really *don’t* “see” things the same way?

Nah. That’d be too easy. All we’d have to do to create an intelligent, grounded-in-truth citizenry would be to make sure they’re all wearing their truth-telling glasses, and not the rose-colored ones they want to see the world through.

I understand and I strongly agree, exciledknight.  However, if there are people such as Sheriff Joe and Ken Bennett in Arizona who will take up this cause, which they are, and leave the real issues to Mitt Romney to deal with, it will continue to put pressure on Obama. 

The thing is, Obama is “a natural” when it comes to the Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals tactics.  Targeting people and singling them out.  But America is becoming more aware of this tactic and they are now countering w/facts (vetting).  The “Birther” issue may become a more significant issue if Arizona can stand their ground.  How great it would be to have Obama removed from Arizona’s ballot in November IF his citizenship cannot be proven.  

But definitely WE cannot let the GOP forget about the real issues facing this nation…the economy, unemployment, massive spending, and the list goes on and on.  This is what will defeat Obama in November! 

Glenn, What are they threatening you with? Is it your family?
If we don’t fight this virus together, we will never get rid of it!

 Between Glen and O’Reilly I wouldn’t have any problem to chose one who is American Conservative patriot. But to use O’Reilly is the very bad standard. O’Reilly nose is so brown that he is much worse than CNN’s Andersen. And all that is while pretending that he is “impartial” in his opinion. Unfortunately in the case of obama’s birth certificate Glen presented himself exactly like O’Reilly would. Instead of proving his point he (like all the others Hawaii birth supporters) just uses slogans and empty statements in spite of the undeniable fact of forgeries. Too bad for Glen to low himself down to the level of O’Reilly.

OR, they have SOMETHING to hide, else why the forgery?

I AM CONVINCED: BARACK OBAMA IS NOT A CITIZEN OF THE USA BY MULTIPLE LINES OF EVIDENCE.

A ‘Fact Checking Error’? Dystel & Goderich Ask Writers to Submit Their Own Bios
 
Submission guidelines at the Dystel & Goderich website (original emphasis): “[Y]ou should describe in two or three sentences—no more—what the book will be about. This is followed by another brief paragraph on why it is being written and then another on why you are qualified to write it….Finally, there should be a more formal narrative Bio of the author.”
I can speak of what she was like to work with and how she generated material. In my dealings with Dystel, I found her exceptionally thorough and very professional. She had a template she wanted non-fiction writers to follow, and my writing partner and I followed her template closely. She was rather fastidious, going so far as to mail a personal “Season’s Greetings” card in December.
All material she used in our proposals came directly from me and my writing partner. She edited our rough-draft proposals and gave us feedback, but the final versions were all ours. Our final versions, bio included, were then simply photo-copied, by us, and distributed to potential publishers. This was back in the pre-Google days, recall. 
Full story: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/18/dystel-biography...

 Here is the one time where Glenn actually goes “liberal” and doesn’t show any evidence that Barrack was born here. Yet on this subject he is willing to “give them the benefit of the doubt because I have heard my in laws, I
have heard Tania say ‘I’m from Italy; my whole family is from Italy.’ No
you’re not. Your grandparents but your mom and dad weren’t.” As a fan and member  of GBTV I have learned to think for myself and to seek the truth, so I look at the evidence provided and I see nothing substantial to say he was born here. The best argument I have heard is of his birth announcement in an Hawaiian newspaper, well guess what; grandparents do that all the time. Show me a real and genuine paper trail and I will admit I was wrong in my believe, but until that happens I guess I’ll be marked a “birther”. Mr. Beck, show me the same amount of evidence that you would need on any other subject.

How did he get on the ballot in the first place?  Where was everybody in both parties in 2007 to scream “He is not qualified to run for President?”  The founding fathers had good reason to require natural born status.  We see what you get when the president has other allegiances.

It appears that Beck needs to move to Arizona so he’ll be under the protection of this nation’s hero, Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Even this nation’s AG is AFRAID to meet with the Sheriff face-to-face. LOL

I love ya, Glen and think your heart is in the right place, but your logic is skewed on this subject…Let’s make an analogy; If a guy has been practicing medicine for 20 years and has made his living doing so, is he still a Dr and should he continue to practice if it is discovered that he never went to Med School? Of course not. In order for the “birther” argument to have any footing, there has to be value placed on the premise of citizenship, of which there is none. That is the problem, nobody is placing any value whatsoever on the honor of being an AMERICAN Citizen. The problem is not the people who are calling BS on someone who cannot even legitimately refute their lack of citizenship. The problem is the cowards who refuse to folow the truth, wherever it may lead. To even join the Army as a E-1 Private driving trucks for a living, you have to provide proof of citizenship. 

It’s not taking away from anything ‘exciledknight’ it’s adding to a damning amount of facts about the criminal/Communist currently in the White House.

I LOVE Arizona!!!!! I bet Hawaii don’t come up with an acceptable document based on their flimsy birth records.

Glenn, the only reason I’m still listening to you is that you have done alot at great risk to try to save our country.  The problem I have is you have blemished your brand with “The Truth Lives Here”.  First of all, to join the left in calling those that have questions on Obama’s birth,  ”birthers”,  and to use ridicule as the left does to shut down discussion are hypocrytical of the “question with boldness”.  What are you so afraid of?  It’s funny you make sure you have every bit of a video tape to make sure you get the story accurate, but you won’t even delve into the information on Obama’s birth issue and you’ve determined it’s not true. By the way, the excuse of it taking away from the other issues is a talking point that everyone uses.  I know there is something wrong when no one wants this brought up!  I’m just disappointed that you are one of those people.

You are right on “BoBAL00″. Nothing, absolutely NOTHING is more important than whether or not Obama is even qualified by our own laws to be in the office of president of the United Stated.

Here’s evidence that the birth certificate is fake.  In the 60′s, the race field was never filled in with “African-American” or “African”, because that would have indicated a person’s place of birth, or nationality, and not their race.  In the 60′s, they used “Negro” in the race field.  What I’ve just told you is enough to prove it! By the way, you don’t throw out proof just because somebody SAYS it’s rayyyyyycist.

I LOVE Arizona!!!!! I bet Hawaii don’t come up with an acceptable document based on their flimsy birth records.

I don’t care if this jerk off was dropped in a field in the middle of Kansas, this jacka$$’s sperm donor was and never has been a citizen of the US, don’t give a damn who says what, BOTH PARENTS MUST BE US CITIZENS PERIOD!!!! UNTILL THEY PROVE THE CLOWN WASN’T IT’S SPERM DONOR, IT IS INELIGIBLE TO BE WHERE THE SOB IS NOW!!!

The evidence has been out there for years.  Obama’s own paternal grandmother is on you tube video “Born in Kenya II” stating unequivocally that he was a child of her village and she had been an eye-witness to his birth THERE.  The ambassador of Kenya is on audio declaring Obama’s birthplace THERE is well known.  On an occasion or two Obama had a Freudian slip on video admitting he had been born in Kenya and the birth certificate produced by Obama this past year has been declared an Adobe photoshop FRAUD consisting of from 9 to 45 constructed layers by at least a few forensic experts.  It doesn’t take being a rocket scientist to figure that when Obama spent millions to keep all of his earliest records sealed from public scrutiny he had to have something serious to hide.  Arpaio is right – where there is smoke there is fire.  Glenn, you do a great job of getting down to the truth on your program, please do not be naive about this one.  It’s clear enough to me as well as to the sponsors of countless billboards across America which have posed the question since ’08, “Where’s the (valid) Birth Certificate?”.  I think his Mama Sara on Born in Kenya II already gave us that answer, straight from her proud grandma’s heart!

An investigation isn’t even necessary.  In the 1960′s, they used the term, “Negro”, in the race field.  “African”, and “African-American” were considered a nationality, or place of birth, at that time.    ALL documents used ‘Negro’.

I really don’t care about the politics or the ramifications thereof as it relates to the REQUIREMENT of being a natural born citizen of the United States of America to run for President let alone BE President…or…REMAIN President once it’s “proven” that a standing President has lied in this way (and how many others?) to get there.
What REALLY bothers me is that so few people care enough to follow the LAW OF THE LAND and immediately start the process of rectifying the wrongs done by arguably the most important person on the PLANET!
That bothers me.

He says to read between the lines.  And, reading between the lines, Obama was born in Israel.

I’m with everyone here Glenn…you are off base.  When Obama originally became a Democratic candidate for the Presidency, he was suppose to be vetted by the DNC on his eligibility and at the time McCain was being vetted for his birth in Panama and Obama never produced a birth certificate.  He has spent millions and a team of lawyers to keep his “records” (birth, school etc.) beyond the public eye.  The birth certificate that he finally did produce after Trump’s very public cajoling has been deemed a computerized fake by experts.  We know Obama is a liar and “any means justify an end”.  Thoughtful, well educated people including some very distinguished military figures have been trying to present evidence in our court system.  

This isn’t about a pathological liar…it is about the legitimacy of the office of the President and how he may have circumvented that through lies and obfuscation while having the power to  direct the business and security of this country! 

It has been proven that he holds a CT social security #, yet he has never lived in Connecticut.
They know about his trips to Pakistan in the 80′s under an international passport, not a U.S. passport.  The evidence continues to mount and yet you say it doesn’t matter.  Every thing he has done in the past 3 1/2 years could possibly be done by someone who has no legitimate right to be President.  Our Founding Fathers explicitly recognized the need to have a natural born citizen as the President of this country because that gives this country the greatest chance of retaining its principles.  As we can see over the last few years, Obama has absolutely no loyalty to those principles but has proven again and again that he wants to destroy the very foundation this country was created on.  

What happens if he is re-elected which there is a good chance due to the fact that a Spanish corporation in Spain (SCYTL) will now be counting the votes on election night. 

Somehow, I believe with your resources, you have the ability to ferret out the truth.  There are too many inconsistencies, and proof, like the Breibart report , to not give this a serious look see.  It would be the greatest gift to this country, to walk him out of the White House and void all the policies and regulations that have been created under his pen. Just like the Tea Party member, those whose believe that he has illegitimately taken the White House, are people who love this country and they are not foolish or crazy but believe in the Rule of Law, honor and above all the principles of the United States of America which created this country.

And Barrack  cannot even qualify as a natural born citizen since not only was he probably born in Kenya but his father is not an American citizen, either – which is part of the requirement of Presidents imposed by our Constitution.  No matter how you look at it, Obama is an usurper who needs to be removed from office in vindication of our Constitution!

You don’t get it do you Jayne Nielsen. NOTHING is more important than showing this Communist liar for what he is and removing him from office. And when it comes to it, we need to take a closer look at Romney. He will likley be the only option to Obama, but we’d better look at him like never before.
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Even if it was REAL you cant even get a drivers licence in (LIBERAL) Connecticut with a LIVE birth certificate!

Mike Ridlon, One of the LAWS is the REQUIREMENT!  What bothers me is that people like some laws, and not others.

Glenn, you’d do better to report such things as straight news items without further comment if you don’t believe in them. If your radio show is short five minutes, find something else to n’yuck-n’yuck over with Pat and Stu. Don’t undermine your credibility or antagonize those of us who generally side with you. Just my $.02 as a GBTV subscriber.  

(Since you like making Nazi analogies, treat this story like…oh, I dunno….the Holocaust.  ”Gassing the mentally ill and disabled?  Shooting Jews in the woods? GETOUTTA HERE!  Next you’ll be telling me we invaded Poland after dressing up as Poles and attacking our own border!  Hey, Stu! Whaddya think the “Gassers” will say next? We’re gonna attack RUSSIA, our own ally, and get bogged down in a two-front war?? Hahahahaahahaaahaha!”)  

If, and I believeObama isn’t a citizen, he had been vetted properly he wouldn’t be in the position of authority right now and we wouldn’;t  be facing this melt down.  I love you Glenn but I’m telling you that it does matter if he is in that office illegally.  So please don’t treat the rest of us like idiots because you  believe he is a citizen. 

Beck is an idiot if he believes that and you are an idiot if you believe him. What part of Obama never proving his eligibility does Beck NOT understand?  Multiple forged “birth certificates,” forged draft registration, EVerify fail, Ayers’ postman testimony, now nearly 20 years of successively changed biographies, all claiming Obama born in Kenya, until 2007, when that became inconvenient.

Notice that Beck never insists on proof to end the controversy.

Beck, you are big time Astroturf.

We’ve been lied to and now it’s time to right a wrong and for those resposible to be made accountable….we can’t do it without you!

Just curious. All of you who consider yourselves “birthers”: what do you hope to achieve?
 
Suppose you are right, and proof is found that Mr. Obama was not born in America. Then what? No sitting judge will rule against the President on this ‘hot potato’. Congress will not impeach him. Further, it is too late. Had Ms. Rodham- Clinton been able to provide solid proof to begin with, she could have had him removed from the ballot relatively easily.
 
Rather than waste your time on this ‘no win’ argument, I urge you to put your energy into defeating Mr. Obama and his colleagues in Congress and elsewhere in November!

Beck doesn’t want to lose his gravy train. He has to kiss up to the power  elite like all of the other “media personalities.”

Big difference!  Elizabeth is not and did not run for the office of President of the United States which has different qualifications than other offices.

Intelligent informed individuals have inquired about the truth of this important issue.
I thank and respect you for much Glen, but your seemingly willful ignorance on this subject coupled with your radio program’s obvious mockery concerning the qualification and eligibility of BO to hold the office of president has frequently made me question your integrity.

I watched almost every Glenn Beck show when it was on Fox News.  He was one of the few and for me the best voice who stood out in the wilderness detailing many facets regarding the most important issues our country faces, including the Marxist-communist takeover.

However, the day he turned and mocked patriots (he refers to them as “birthers”) is the day he lost my respect.  I was hoping that when Mr. Beck became “independent”, he would speak out about Obama’s ineligibility.  But no, he continues to ridicule birthers and anything related to this deception.

Any commentator who continue to COVER UP Obama’s ineligibility, including Obama’s dual-citizenship, breaching the natural born citizen requirement, and ignoring the 6-month investigative team’s forged document findings is in fact advancing the destruction of our Country.

Mr. Beck, restore YOUR courage and your integrity!!!

ref: http://www.patriotsunion.org/PresidentialQualifications.htm

One day Beck will eat crow along with his jelly donuts! As important as his voice is on Conservative issues, he completely fails on this one. It just shows his glaring “feet of clay” and worse, that insidious, mean spirited side of him, displayed against Huck. He could disagree with us respectfully but to ridicule and mock along with his crew of brownnosers is a travesty and goes against everything he champions!

I’m sorry Glenn…I have to disagree with you regarding Obama’s Birth Certificate.  I’m more inclined to believe the Sheriff and Law Enforcement Officers over anyone…including our Leaders in the WH.  When is someone going to wake up and realize that the man in the WH making very important decisions for Americans isn’t who he says he is.  He’s changed his name several times.  His Aunt in Kenya said he was born there.  Then we never heard from her again.  We have a corrupt President and all the men around him (some women).  You have shown some very interesting things about him, which doesn’t make Obama look honest.  People have been paid off and threatened.  Are you one of them who are afraid to speak up regarding this…just because people will think you are a kook?  If Obama was not worried about this…he wouldn’t have paid people off to shut up.  Please get real and have your people look into it…quietly.  When the issue was first brought up…why did Obama’s guy…now the Mayor of Chicago go to Kenya?  He doesn’t have anyone there.  Obama and Michelle have visited Kenya too…..very strange…unless they have relatives there.  How about his 1/2 Brother…now he’s in the US.  How about his SS #’s?  Our President is a fraud.  That’s the real truth.

Beck, think you will eat crow on his one day.  Obama has made it an issue and there are just TOO MANY discrepancies to ignore in his official documents.  And it IS important because of the Constitutional issues.  It is not right to pick and choose which parts of the Constitution you think worthy of support, in the same way that the Bible doesn’t have optional sections.

 It does not make any difference whether he was born in the USA or not.
In order for you to be President, you must be a naturalized citizen, not a citizen by birth. A naturalized citizen is one with both parents having been born in the USA. So, whatever birth certificate you chose, Barrack’s dad was NOT born in the USA. This means he does not meet the citizenship requirements and should be impeached ASAP for this and the treasonous actions he has taken against our country.

Weak argument for men of Honor to contemplate. What about those who will follow in his footsteps. This is just another trial balloon and if we don’t puncture it, we will smother in Hot air! Time to put a stop to it for all time!

bill q, Re: “the birth certificate and “any other” document (barrys selective service form) have already been proven to be manufactured documents.”
 
I have seen discussions with seemingly valid arguments concerning inconsistencies of the birth certificate Mr. Obama furnished via his website. 
 
However, I am unaware that anyone has seen- let alone examined- Mr. Obama’s Selective Service registration, school and college transcripts or Passport. Can you provide a source proving any of these are “manufactured documents”?
 
Thanks.
 
 
 
 

I must 75% agree that Obama is an American citizen and that
there is 0.00% chance that we can do anything about it given the current media;
this less than reputable Congress and the significant portion of the voting age
legal American and their children; as well as the socialistic bent segment of
our education system who indoctrinate our children on the essentials of unity,
industry, life and love from their own self-serving textbooks and visions
inspired by their own drug enlightenment. 

We can’t judge Obama on all his accomplished as there are no
means of measuring racial divisions, class warfare, undercutting industry and
agriculture by unreasonable regulations, red tape and vacillating message,
depending on audience. Just like “Jobs Created or Saved”. We can only
say that under Obama’s “Jobs Saved”, that only 80 some % of American
jobs were ever in any jeopardy and remain as such. 

No, Obama is American, but not in his heart. Born in Kenya
OR NOT; raised in Indonesia OR NOT; educated by socialists OR NOT; putting
ACORN on the map and tormenting our financial institutions OR NOT; devoted to
spreading the wealth internationally OR NOT; where the United States may not
get a “fair share” while friends’ prosperity grows, his dislike of
Capitalism OR NOT, he pledges magic that will raise humanity out of our looming
poverty to buy the goods the world makes to fill the coffers of governments to
introduce a new age of plenty. 

Obama promised “fundamental changes in America”
much like the changes in 1930s Germany under a new leader, born in Austria (for those who don’t know history is another country from Germany), who promised that
none will recognize the country when he was done. In roughly 15 years, one was
in shambles and a people falsely branded as aggressive and unfeeling. In only
three years, America is being fractured by ineptness in Obama’s Cabinet choices
and their fanatic regulators and Executive orders that, in effect, is
crucifying our economy and the prospect for most of our 310 million people. Anointing
four more years only means that the able opposition will be divided even more
and another nation will be destroyed, but in only half the time.

Everybody lies. It’s called sin, and anybody that says they haven’t lied, just did. Nobody said beck doesn’t lie, that wasn’t my point and you know it. My point is that beck admits he’s been a phony, a drunk, a liar, a scumbag.  Face the facts, barak obama is a made up character…he really has nothing to do with barry soetoro. He was created from scratch (with zero traceable history) to appeal to progressive idiots like yourself. By the looks of things in our once great counrty…it’s working like a charm. I’ll keep sucking my thumb, you keep drinking the koolaid.    

Very well said, Sir!

Shrillary was never serious about sinking the party, she just wanted to rock the boat and maybe put to good use some of the knowledge she and Bill gleaned from those FBI files they “borrowed”. (Remember that?  I wonder how many on both sides of the aisle cooperated with them out of fear of what they *might* have found out.)  She knew the Dem establishment was going to back Obama in the end, so after scaring them with the original “birther” argument, she resigned from the race and took up the offer of the Secretary of State job. Besides, she has her own skeletons to worry about. 

Never been a “birther,” however this is the sort of long-gone minutia that can gain traction. No offense, Glenn, but I could not care less what you think about this stuff.  You’re no different than the rest of us; we’re all trying to figure when the main stream media will begin vetting Obama.

Yes, this may turn out to be a fly-speck, but it is foolish to discount it fresh out of the gate. If nothing else, it will prove to some –who think BO can do no wrong– that he sanctioned a lie. Elizabeth Warren style.

This issue alone is the most important issue out there.  I have been so disappointed in Glenn for being the “moron” to not recognize the volumes of evidence to support the fact that Barack Obama, Barry Soetoro, Harrison Bounel , Steve Dunham, or what ever the hell his real name is and all of his many social security numbers associated with him is a complete fraud and criminal and definitely NOT born in Hawaii.  Glenn’s failure to discuss the real truth on this issue is the very reason that I will NOT subscribe to GBTV.  Everything the criminal fraud has done while acting as President needs to be undone as much as possible and the only way to undo this disaster is to have him declared ineligible, which is the TRUTH and negate everything he has done while pretending to be President of the U.S.  The man, if you could possibly call him that, has committed the biggest fraud in the history of our country and Glenn chooses to take the Ignorant position on this issue.  For this reason I have lost all confidence in Beck. Beck needs to be re educated on the truth.  His ridicule of Joe Arpaio is OUTRAGEOUS !

Glenn is trying to shut down the conversation, just like the left.  You know something is wrong when there’s almost a complete media blackout, conservatives included.  In my opinion, they are completely aware of Obama’s eligibility problems.

Thanks, Sarge!

Now *this* is a very nice, succint piece of satire… which deliciously captures all of the spin the left has to put on each of these ‘coincidences’  in order to (in the immortal words of Captain Jean Luc Picard) “make it so”.

Glenn, you’re the fool – on this topic.  I can’t believe you are so naive and gullible, when you are so smart about everything else.  Invite me on your show, I’ll educate you on this.  Seriously, you need to open your eyes.  You are as naive as well, someone back in Hitler’s day spewing nonsense that Hitler’s not a bad guy, Hitler doesn’t have any evil plans, etc.  Yes, he did. And so does Obama.  Czars, treaties that give up our 2nd amendment rights to the UN, all kinds of things are planned.  Potential for martial law to be imposed.  The biggest order of ammo ever placed by the govt recently got placed and it’s not for the kind of ammo used in Iraq, Iran, or Afghanistan – it’s the kind used to shoot citizens.  

So let me educate you – For starters, in your above article, it says “Barack Obama is a United States citizen, period. ”  Why?  Because you say so?  Also, Are you and your writers really that stupid and uninformed about this topic?  Although there is some question about citizenship, too, the issue involving his eligibility is about “natural born citizenship” you idiot!  Sorry, for the name calling, but c’mon, this has been going on for 4 years now.  I knew the difference 4-5 years ago about citizen vs. natural born citizen, why don’t you and/or your writers, Glenn?  It’s because when it comes to this subject, you don’t give a damn and you are determined, like the liberal retard media, to hide your head up your ass and  plug your ears, close your eyes, and not educate yourself on the matter.  If you did, you’d find that there is no way in hell, not even a 1% chance in hell that the birth certificate he posted on the govt website is real. It’s a fraud.  I am 100% certain because I am educated on the topic and because I have a background in print/art software (30 years in marketing/advertising) and I know fonts, I know digital documents, I know about layers, and scanning, and so on.  It is FAKE!  And that’s a federal felony just to post it on the govt site.  Not to mention all sorts of other fraud and felony and perhaps treason charges that stem from it – and it’s a violation of the constitution for Pelosi to have put his name on the ballot (and since you probably don’t know this, Glenn..) Pelosi removed the phrase “constitutionally eligible” from the paperwork she signed.  That Orly Taitz (sp?)  lawyer presented several decades of that form unaltered as it was used for all other nominees throughout a 20-30 years… but then, whaddya know?  Pelosi took that phrase out and signed an altered version when she put Obama on the ballot!  I wonder why?  D’oh!Glenn, you really disappoint me on this one.  Sure, this article isn’t proof positive, as it’s just an article.  But there’s overwhelming evidence that his BC is fraud, SSN is bogus and doesn’t pass e-verify and belongs to someone in CT (and did you realize that William Ayres wrote a couple chapters in a book about how to commit SSN fraud?  And that Ayres family paid for their “foreign exchange student” Obama’s college education – that’s evidence, affidavit – what is it that you don’t get about that Glenn?  Geeez.  And he left the USA to travel to Pakistan when Americans were forbidden to so – how did he do that, Glenn?  What passport did he use?  And how did he afford it?  Why are all his k-12 records sealed?  Why did he give up his law license?  Someone who has gone to Harvard and gotten a legal degree doesn’t just say “oh never mind” and not renew his license.  He didn’t want to show proof of who he was.  He is a fraud.  And you, Glenn, like the liberal media, are an accomplice and enabler.  When our country is destroyed by Obama and his minions, you will someday be shaking your head and wondering how you were so clueless and naive.  Quite frankly, I think you and O’Reilly will have blood on your hands because you two guys could have changed things.  But both of you refuse to discuss this topic.  You are part of the problem.  That said, you are such a great guy on everything else.  Just that “little” issue of a communist, socialist, marxist who is ineligible to be our president has taken over our country, and violates the constitution every day.  Just that.

It’s never too late to return to the rule of law.  Even voting Obama out won’t clear out the evil that has been wrought.   The truth shall set us free.  Yes,  @RoscoJones:disqus – even if Obama was born on the steps of the White House, he is still not a natural born citizen.   Btw, @BlackBeaver:disqus, your use of the “birthers” pejorative speaks a lot.

 WRONG !  Brewer has no backbone.  She is another moron like Beck !  She vetoed the AZ bill requiring proof of natural  Born Citizenship to be on the ballot.  Curse Her !!

 You’re right, Trumpman.  I don’t know what has gotten into Glenn that he can’t see the evidence for what it is—-evidence that Obummer was born in Kenya.  I stopped listening to Beck and I haven’t prescribed to his internet show because of his refusal to look at the evidence fairly.  I used to listen to his show every day and watch his tv show without missing one.  Not now.  He seems to want to back up Obummer on this one.  This issue is very important.  If Obummer is impeached because of his fraud then, every order and bill he has signed will be gone.  That is what will restore America back to what she was before he stole the election in 2008.

Most Excellent!

PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH TERMS
BHO may be a native born citizen, BUT NOT a Natural Born Citizen
He has never claimed to be to be a Natural Born Citizen
His own Fight the Smears site said Obama is a Native Born Citizen
A BIG DIFFERENCE, The devil is in the details

Dear Glenn, as Hannity says, I can walk and chew gum too.  Meaning, you ,Rush and probably others are giving Obama way too much credit.  He is smart, but not that smart, he is deviant beyond comprehension, but again that deviance doesn’t make him smart.  #1.  He does not have a United States long form birth certificate. Read Corsi book”Where’s the Birth Certificate?”
Where’s any of his records?  Does not a Connecticut Social Security #, and a fraudulent Selective service date cause you to wonder.  As you said on your 2 PM show PST, on Fox News,connect the dots.  Again you are giving this wannabe way to much credit.  It is the same  as Romney,  and other have said, “that he is out of his league”, when in fact it is as you have long ago mentioned, the Alinsky-ite is doing what he is doing on purpose.  He is a socialist and what he does is nothing more than following the book rules for radicals.  He does not want a recovery, and being born under colonialism he has no loyalty to a nation he hates and wants to rule not govern.

Following Glenn’s thought process, then Obama is a conservative only pretending to be a Marxist for political purposes.  You know how Chicago is, he needed to fit in, so he could be elected to the Senate.

I don’t think Glenn ever read Dale Carnegie’s “How to Win Friends and Influence People.” But, I still like ya, Glenn, and we’re glad you and your family are in Texas.

Glen: Methinks thou has an ulterior motive in dumming down the distinction between “natural born” and other classifications of ctitzenship. Is it because Marco Rubio would also be ineligeble for POTUS or V-POTUS if the true interpretation were applied?

@chamberjac:disqus , I so agree and relate to your analysis.  Many of the comments on this article and others think Glenn is naive, uniformed, gullable, etc.  But I don’t believe any of those reasons.  The only reason I can see as a good possibility is that Glenn and his family have been threatened.  So much for questioning with boldness and returning to honor.

One more thing – the posters on this site are to be applauded and commended for great posts. You are educated on this subject and all the posts I’ve read are great – and like mine, almost always commend/applaud Glenn on everything else – it’s just this issue where he’s part of the problem.  And like I said in my post – if Beck and O’Reilly  wouldn’t be playing “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil” liberal monkeys, this whole issue would have blown wide open years ago!   

I wonder if they’ve been threatened.  I can’t believe they are that naive, can you?  Especially Glenn – he’s the guy who says question things, research things.  But not this thing.  No.  He asserts right in this article  ”Obama’s a citizen. Period.”  As I pointed out – it’s not a matter of citizen, it’s “natural born citizenship” that is a requirement for POTUS.  I can’t believe he doesn’t know that.  I knew the difference between those terms 4 years ago.  And I also knew that even if he was born in Hawaii, he’s still not a Natural Born Citizen because his father was never a US citizen.  So, Glenn, that’s the truth.  Period.  

Invite me on your show.  I’ll write it on the chalkboard!

So, Obama really WAS born in Hawaii, but he lied and said that he was born in Kenya just so he could be more multicultural? What a load. And I suppose that’s why he had all of his college records sealed, eh–because they would show that he received financial aid as a FOREIGN citizen. Oh, but he just did that so he would be cool.

This is the most unbelievable thing I have ever seen. The left has scared everyone, including GLENN BECK, away from attacking Obama’s citizenship. Grow a set, Glenn, and tell the truth.

Wasn’t there a time not too long ago when Glenn was in the midst of people who accepted Obama’s “birth certificate” as phony? Ever since Glenn left Fox, he has been somewhat pro-Obama’s cause, ie, defending the man from certain attacks related to his birth place. I read between the lines that Glenn is afraid of the left shutting down his latest venture in GBTV, so he has to take a side that at least looks neutral. He’s been wrong before on some subjects and he’s definitely wrong on this one.

I could not believe she threw Sherrif Joe under the bus but then ANY politician in her position of authority has a multitude of skeletons that they are terrified of revealing. I’m sure the Chicago thug team has quite a blackmail operation going on. When a Lib like Panetta was given acess to the CIA files and then conveniently moved back to the Pentagon, my antenna went up.

No matter any citizen arguments the public in general has been way off on this guy from the beginning! We are headed for socialistic oppression if he gets re-elected and anyone who doesn’t get that is not only stupid but also complicit! We have to vote all encumbents out and replace them with accountable people! Party affiliation is not a luxury any of the American people that love freedom and Our Country should fall back on! Wake up America, our future is NOW and We the People need to speak loud and clear that We are the driving force in a democratic republic, not the idiots in media nor the idiots in D.C.!

lets consider the big picture (it’s rather important).
First, we know that the 545 representatives in DC have not been looking out for the best interests of the American citizens for many decades.  In fact they have actively been working toward a new world order. (Our gov. started the UN)  Now this UN is working to take control of the world with our governments blessings.  They have dismantled the manufacturing base, destroyed the educational system and turned it into a collectivist indoctrinaton mechanism.  They have fully subverted the media (Team Beck?).  They proudly have stated this, read what the charter is to the Council on Foreign Relations, not national borders, no national sovereignty.  This is a blatant war on the people of America.  We the people are going to lose our unalienable rights that are only protected within our representative Republic.  This folks is the reality, we the people are under attack by a fully corrupt and subverted government.  Today they use a usurper in office to put the last killing shots into the body of this nation.  
Does the real background of Obama matter…heck yes it does.
Obama is a radical revolutionary chosen to deliver this final assault on this nation.  Romney will be no better, if you ask your grandchlldren in their day.

It is a corrupt and subverted government Glenn, top to bottom, inside and out.  Wake up and get a clue.  The evidence is overwhelming and it is not to be dismissed.  These are ruthless people.

Consider the number of restaurants, hotels, gas stations, doctors, etc..that are owned by foreigners.  Why is this, could it be they were given citizenship, plus grant money, plus tax breaks that undermine black and white Americans.  Then consider what they have done to the black population through welfare, affirmative action, the war on drugs…..and the fomentation of racism along the path.  They are setting the American citizenry up for a great financial collapse and hope that we turn on each other.  There only concern is continuity of government, there government not ours…..

Our repersentatives have set us up for a huge fall, it is on it’s way folks.  I could go on and on the evidence is staggering, and for Beck to ignore something like a forged birth certificate, a fraudulent selective service number etc……is also telling.

I don’t think so.  He wouldn’t, then, be talking about Obama’s entire fictional life.

He’s provided no legal proof. None at all. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

trumpman, I am sorry if I offended you by using the same term the article uses, “birthers”. Let me- let all of us- know what you prefer to be called and I will gladly comply.

Re: “It’s never too late to return to the rule of law”, I agree. If that means remove Mr. Obama from office via judicial or legislative means, we must face the facts: it’s just not going to happen. Looking forward, states should require proof of citizenship for candidates, as well as voters. meanwhile, let’s join forces and vote him and his associates out!

“They ran the birth announcement in the Honolulu papers!”  Uhmm…two things about that statement to remember: 1, Papers are written by humans, not the finger of God.  If you know someone at the paper, you can get little things like fake birth announcements put in. (Frank Marshall Davis worked for the defunct Honolulu Record. I doubt its staff drowned themselves in the sea when it folded.) It’s not like you’re running a headline declaring that Godzilla just walked ashore and is stomping the city flat.  2. Do you know Abe Vigoda, the guy who played “Tessio” in “The Godfather” and “Fish” on “Barney Miller”? Did you know that he’s still alive? And did you know that one paper referred to him as “the late” Abe Vigoda around 30-frickin’-years ago?  Abe laughed it off, and had a publicity photo taken of himself sitting up in a coffin. Following Glenn’s logic, Abe is a vampire! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! 

Impeachment will not do this. Only nullification of his “Presidency” on eligibility grounds.

“The supporters of the birther theory are used to make conservatives as a whole look radical and conspiratorial, and it hurts the efforts to vote him out of office in 2012.”

It is hard to say who has been made to look more radical and conspiratorial by the ridicule coming from the Alinsky Method trained media operatives, Glenn Beck or the so called “birthers.”  After all, Glenn was run off of cable TV. One thing is certain, though. We know very little about Obama’s background, what is or isn’t true. We do know that he lies or skews the truth practically every time he is in front of a microphone. Then there is the birth certificate investigation conducted by the Sheriff in Arizona. Reasonable people who take the time to read the findings of that investigation must conclude there is something very wrong with the BC and draft card produced for the public by the WH.  

Dual citizenship as Obama has is not acceptable in the position of President. Nancy Pelosi knew this and just shoved it aside hoping the American people would be gullible enough to think it was alright. It is against the Constitution and that is what we believe in and set our rules and regulations. the American people (a large group of them) need to wake up and dig in and find out that what I am saying and others have said is true. Obama is not eligible to be President because of his dual citizenship (Kenya and Hawaii). That is a fact and that is the truth. If that wasn’t the truth why did he pay millions of dollars to hide his birth certificate which ended up to be a fraud from the American people?. Wake Up America. Obama is a talked without knowledge or ability to run a country such as ours. Mitt Romney has so much experience, knowedlge and integrity…that is who should be President of the United States of America.

Hmmmmm! Ouch!

I know you are a great American Glen but you are not trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Your trying to prove you did not make a mistake in calling Obama’s real birthplace Hawaii. You have too much invested in it now. Obama’s birth certificate is still under lock and key after four years while defending many lawsuits to release it.and that should raise enough suspicion for any rational thinking person.

Sometimes Glenn is a moron. He goes and collects all these facts about different things about Obama and then gives his opinion. Now, I don’t care whether Glenn believes in birthers or not, that’s his business. But he shouldn’t make fun of people who do.

That’s what the Dems do. Obama sealed all his records two minutes after he took office. He’s hiding something. When we ask about it, the ony response we get is, ‘you’re crazy.’ Not a real response but a stupid one like that. I think Glenn is afraid of being called crazy by the Dems if he ever came out and asked what is he hiding. 

It isn’t even about being born here or not. He is hiding something that could affect his eligibility to be president and we should know it. Obama himself has said, if “someone is hiding something, there must be a reason for it.” What is it?

Let’ s see Obama is not constitutionally eligible to be POTUS. He has committed fraud, but we better shut up because it will hurt our election efforts.  Something’s wrong with this picture. 

Maybe Glenn likes to think Marcellus Wallace has Obama’s real Hawaiian birth certificate in a briefcase.  When you open the case, the BC glitters like gold.  (And remember, Marcellus Wallace doesn’t like to be ####ed by anybody except MRS. Wallace.) (If Glenn can be silly for millions of dollars, I can be silly for the $30-odd I pay a month for my internet access.)

SargintRock, None of us- I am certain- wants this to become established precedent. But, as I said, no judge will rule Mr. Obama ineligible to be President, now that he has held the office for over three and a half years. And can you truly believe that Congress- led by such wimps as Mr. Boehner and Mr. McConnell- would ever be able to remove Mr. Obama from office? NO ONE WANTS TO TOUCH THIS ‘HOT POTATO’!

That being the case, all that is left for us is to put our differences aside and defeat Mr. Obama in November! Further, we must encourage our state legislators and officials to require proof of citizenship for all candidates and voters.

Take a poll of all your members Glenn and find out how many of your members really agree with you that there’s no question that Obama meets all the constitutional requirements to serve as president of the United States of America.  I DARE YOU TO TAKE A POLL ON IT GLENN.  Do you think you can just declare that we’re all fools and should just take your word that Obama’s legally quallified?  You’re the one who always says “don’t take my word on this, do your own research and decide for yourself”.  I’ve heard you say that many times Glenn.  But not on Obama’s birthright to be president.  You always just parrot your friend Bill O’Reilly and say… nobody cares… or it’s dumb to bring it up.. etc. etc.  Well TAKE A POLL OF YOUR MEMBERS GLENN AND THEN IF YOU FIND ENOUGH LEMMINGS AGREE WITH YOU STICK TO IT.  BUT YOU WON’T FIND THAT MANY LEMMINGS AMONG YOUR MEMBERS.  So stop insulting our intelligence by declaring it doesn’t matter…..  Does the constitution matter Glenn?  Yes it does.  There is much evidence that Obama has never released a real, official birth certificate while spending millions trying to keep all lawsuits out of court.  I can get a certified copy of my official birth certificate for $25.00  WOULD ANY SANE MAN SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON LAWYERS FIGHTING TO NOT HAVE ANY COURT LOOK AT HIS BIRTH RECORDS WHEN AN OFFICIAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE COULD SETTLE THE MATTER FOR ONLY $25.00???  NO SANE MAN WOULD DO THAT AND NO SANE MAN IS GOING TO LET EVEN YOU GLENN BECK TELL US TO JUST SHUT UP AND FORGET IT.  Sorry Glenn, no sale.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” – Edmund Burke

 Also the fact that Obama’s lawyer said the birth certificate that the White House presented online was a forgery.  People tend to forget that little tidbit.

I think Beck has been waning us about similar trends for a long time. I don’t know why he has lost all his skeptical reasoning when it come to the eligibility issue.

If their was suspicion Romney was born in Mexico would you view it different.  I counted on you but you and O’riley or wrong on this one.   Where are College records?  There is no hope—— everyone is corrupt for what ever reason.  Can’t figure why you would back off on this.  To many people value your opinion for you not to give it your all in an investigation.  YOU CAN DO IT, so do it.  Why can’t you go to Hawaii and ask for a certified copy?  Call him on this.

Something’s wrong here.  Glenn has always fought for the Constitution and has said our country was built on Christian values and morals, that we are a Christian nation.  But when it comes to Obama it seems the Constitution doesn’t matter any longer.  While the Constitution doesn’t state word for word that anyone running for president must be born of 2 American citizens making the candidate a “natural born citizen”,  it certainly implies as much. It later becomes more defined as such. The line is somewhat blurry as it is when we say this is a Christian nation but we know we are and we know  most of the founding fathers were Christian and strong believers in Christ.  We know from reading their many writings.  We also know from reading material related to our Constitution that the founders created a special classification of “natural born citizen” to help insure as much as possible that an elected president did not have divided loyalties but was loyal to America alone.

I wonder why this escapes Glenn.  I can only guess it’s because he chooses to ignore the obvious.  Sadly, I’ve lost respect for Glenn.  I once thought he was honest in all things but his continued denial of evidence concerning Obama’s citizenship proves otherwise.   

Beck is either complicit in the Obama felonious userpation of the Constitutional (Article II) Office of Potus or the worst read and informed purported knowledgeable Media Commentator in the long history of journalism.  He has lost his place as a Media Star and has stooped to adopting a contrary position to tediously researched and published evidence made available to the media to allow the development of a well informed  public opinion and available to help present the very obvious facts that Obama is a forger, fraudulent felonious Putative Potus and the greatest threat that this “Once Great Nation” has ever faced in the entirety of it’s glorious history.   

Glenn, you know Obama is a fraud to the core, so why in all the world would you suppose Obama is a US Citizen? He is not a natural born citizen, and he is not eligible to occupy the White House. He is an illegal alien to this very day. Technically, we could deport him back to Kenya, or perhaps to Indonesia. We should should do exactly that, and we should do it by ship, and route the ship through Somali waters, and then evacuate the crew by chopper while Obama is asleep.

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Let’s see, how about making sure that everyone gets vetted.  Do you know that Marco Rubio is not eligible either?  How about making sure that the Constitution is followed.

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Didn’t Larry Flynt put out a call for anybody who had dirt on Glenn, dirt that Glenn hadn’t already owned up to? 

Sadly, THEY got to Trump,O’Really and yes, Beck. But wasn’t he preaching about standing up no matter the cost, pledging your Sacred Honor in the Noble cause for truth!

I used to follow Beck consistently and watched him go from his very carefully crafted wording on his first networks show. Then he became a bit more bold and candid when he switched to Fox. But I have always thought he was holding back for two reasons. One is he wants to maximize his audience by shying away from the more radical topics and just regurgitate the obvious garbage about Obama and the federal government we can all see and know thus making us ‘comfortable with our own opinion’. The other reason is what I call his ‘rodeo clown’ mentality. He can entertain his audience by going wild about stuff that is obvious and therefore be entertaining and reassuring to our opinion without getting into serious criminal and constitutional issues. That’s called profiteering, and sensationalism, not hard hitting investigative reporting and calling out Obama for just what he is! Beck is totally in it for the money and he’s loving the fact that Obama is such a giant target he doesn’t really have to get into the short stroke seriously criminal issues!

Years ago I quit Glenn Beck and switched to Mark Levin during the summer of Obamacare debates. After awhile Mark got too irritating and focused on superficial issues of today’s political headlines. Levin is also extremely rude to callers even though they are usually liberal hecklers. I also tried and liked Herman Cain and Neil Bortz, but was never a consistent listener.

NOW I listen almost exclusively to Alex Jones and what a difference from the rest of the pack. Sure he is WAY OUT THERE on some topics, but so what? Really. Maybe one day we’ll find out he wasn’t as far out as we initially thought! He is so right on almost ALL of the big picture of what is happening today and he backs everything he says up with research and facts. He ‘connects the dots’ of the baby steps that the ultra-powerful elite take to fool and steal and enslave you. You may not like his delivery or style but he is direct, he lay out what he has researched as a global agenda and unlike most of the rest of the talking heads … he backs it ALL up with facts, links, quotes, first person statements and expert guests who have been researching their particular specialty for decades. He also isn’t some ‘Johnny come lately’ like Beck. He has been at it over 15 years! He also has probably the largest conservative talk show program ON THE PLANET and websites that go far beyond just a talk show! You can get the commercial free three hour podcast at prisonplanet.tv! I do, every day.

I said bye bye Beck a long time ago … and I am about as conservative as one can get!

Beck can’t agree with the “birthers” because he has been threatened.  Radio stations, TV stations, reporters have all been threatened with their jobs, families threatened or radio/tv shows shut down.  Rush doesn’t care who threatens him because he owns his station and nothing intimidates him.  Go Rush!!!

Atta boy, Son!!

I just want to thank you , I am a new born christian and for the last 2 years i cant seem to get this man off my mind….This man being mister barack the dictator himself im not very educated  ,but im also not blind GOD has opened my eyes alot these past coupleof years ..And for some reason he has lead me to you . My point is that you have my support ,because WE need to get this great country back.. the only thing that i can say about Mr. Obama is ,,Is that he has brought alot of christians back down to there knees..which in this case i will say its about damn time .I’ve read some where in the bible that GOD puts people into office even if we like it or not ,so with this i will close and say TRUST …OUR LORD GOD ALMIGHTY..he has uor back we just need to keep that little bit or alot of faith we have left..GOD BLESS AMERICA..

Rush is complicit with all the others. He thinks the Prez is legit!

As I said to another poster, didn’t Larry Flynt put out a call for dirt on Glenn?  Maybe he managed to find some.  I was around in the 80′s for Jim and Tammy Bakker and Jessica Hahn, and Jimmy Swaggart and his tearful, “I have sinned against you” confession on TV. 

My beef with him is his blatant propagandism. I couldn’t care less about his or Obamas background. I take them for what they currently do. I agree more with Obama than with Glenn. You can smear this fact by saying I drink his koolaid. I know my opinions are studied and informed.

I’m not so sure. Rush doesn’t ridicule birthers, at least I’ve never heard him. 

Thanks Pilgrim. I’ll check him out. I was impressed with Dennis Miller today as he had Corsi on and he was respectful although he stated he hasn’t made his mind up on the situation. But at least he wasn’t MOCKING the arguments and facts being presented. I definitely need to find a new advocate on this one!!

Glenn just won’t jump into the REALLY tough issues. And to heckle people with name calling ‘birther’ stuff and bagging on Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a disgrace. He’s almost as bad as a name calling liberal in this regard!  I quit paying any serious attention to Beck YEARS ago and will NEVER subscribe to GBTV, but he is occasionally OK for simple entertainment value. If you want real news with facts you can turn to Alex Jones or check out my Facebook page for my ongoing conservative comment under user Walt Ely!

Birthers are simply wrong.  Watch some of Sheriff Joes presentations and the validity of the “research” become laughing material for late night TV hosts.
The “evidence” is silly in the extreme.  Besides, it simply no longer matters, since Obama is currently in the White House.

Mr. Beck,
Please have your staff look up the US Supreme Court case of “Minor vs Happersett” 1875 as it is a citizenship precedent case with a written understanding by the Chief Justice of the definition and understanding of a “natural born citizen”. If BHO was born any where outside the US, the US statutes at the time would not have afforded him any citizenship due to the age of his mother. He would have to have personally applied for ‘naturalization’ after age 18.
Mr Beck, credibility and integrity are parts of the same coin.

Yes! I have been screaming this from the rooftops, yet no one seems to care. And if we cannot get the talking heads, the investigators and the people with the power to enact enforcement of our laws and requirements to follow this fact, what hope do we have of getting anyone to act on the place of birth issue?

Glenn, it is not about birtherism, it is about Obama LYING to pad his resume. It proves, like Elizabeth Warren, Obama would lie to make himself appear better for political and probably financial reasons.

Are you guys kidding me???  What does his birth have to do with him being a lowsy president??  Four years ago, this is all we had while we were trying to vet him. Hell, the whole point of ‘vetting’ is supposed to be done BEFORE, so you know what you might get.  WE KNOW WHAT WE GOT!  We don’t have to vet him WHEN HE HAS A RECORD!!  This whole comment is a huge-ass waste of time.

Glenn, none of your followers here are following you on this issue.  How can you think you can just declare that Obama is a citizen and that’s the end of it?  That’s not good enough Glenn.  You know the constitution requires more than just a person being a citizen. So don’t come here telling us he’s a citizen so just shut up about it?  It’s rare that I’m disappointed in you Glenn, but I’m really disappointed in you about this obvious stupid position you’re laying claim to.

I hate to disagree with Glenn; and I seldom do, however in this birther issue I think Glenn is dead wrong and is being “bullheaded” about the subject.  It is pertinent and should be addressed.  Obama is clearly not eligible to be president.He could be kept off all the ballots and all of his STUPID decissions and appointments could be and should be reversed…..Glenn the information is right there in front of you and you refuse to see it….Why???  His own grandmother said she was in the room in Kenya when he was born…
How hard is that to believe??/   And now there’s even questions about who his real father is!! Glenn I don’t agree with you on this and I will NEVER understand your position on this issue……This man is attempting to destroy our way of life and our culture and this is an opportunity to defeat this evil——-(what?  I don’t even know how to describe the evel here), and you resist the obvious!!!  Again, WHY Glenn???

@BlackBeaver:disqus , sorry, I see you did not mean that term in a derogatory way, as all of the left including Beck do.  I guess we could wait on the gamble of an election, but that would mean this foundational breach of our Constitution to stand, along with the lawlessness and those many officials involved.  If we forsake our God-inspired law, our country is doomed indeed.

I guess I would be considered a birther because I believe that the Constitution should be upheld and I believe that Obama is not a natural born citizen.  If he were, why in the world would Hawaii not allow an attorney who has gone before judges to get permission to see the original birth certificate….I don’t believe there is one….and this is one thing that I do not agree with Beck.  Sooner or later the truth will come out and when it does, there will be some people in very hot water.  You simply cannot hide everything….it is impossible.

Vote em all out … the Declaration of Independence states that if they are tyranical which this one is and overstepping its constitutional authority, IT IS OUR DUTY to remove this government and put one in place that adheres to our security.

I never thought of this angle until you and Rush mentioned it.  Maybe it’s a crooked political scheme like everythung else Obama and the Dems cook up.  But there seems to be enough doubt of the validity of the Hawiian birth certificate to fuel the flames of suspicion.
If it is fake then Obama has commited a serious crime that needs to be dealt with.

Yeah it is an distraction that I would bet they “chummed” the birther waters with. Seeing how they need as many distractions out there to be able to get re-elected. Maybe it would be better to realize that when a person is adopted either in or out of Country the State he was born in inside the US borders would then reflect the foreign adoption as his place of birth and then seal or possibly destroy the old copies if they are in digital form. It might be how Barry/Barack got to “rich” colleges like his father with help from donors since he was listed as foreign born with a birth certificate to prove it. For a presidential candidate that would be considered fraud and would keep you from gaining access to the bailots in some states.

It looks like AZ might get the last laugh in if what I saw recently is true.

I agree.  For the first time I am thinking of cancelling my membership with Glenn.
This issue is extremely important; and it IS true!!  Obama is NOT eligible to be president.  Why is Glenn being so negitive on this issue?  And, as others have said, I’m am getting a bit offended by Glenns attitude toward us “birthers”..I would be willing to bet that most of GBTV followers are birthers!!

No matter how spin is used to lessen the impact of the President’s background~ Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press reports that “documents showed Barry enrolled as a Muslim while at the Catholic school during first through third grades.  Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was listed as a Muslim on the registration from for the Catholic school.”  A blogger who goes by “An American Expat in Southest Asia” Found that Barack Hussein Obama was registered under the name Barry Soetoro serial number 203 and entered the Franciscan Asisi Primary School on 1 January 1968 and sat in class 1B.   Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times learned from Indonesians familiar with Obama when he lived in Jakarta that he was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended.”   There is alot of information the public should have known about our President thats why there is the controversy today.   Would have helped had he been totally open about his childhood.

http://www.danielpipes.org/5544/barackobamasmuslimchildhood  FrontPageMagazine.com  Facts are facts, we just want to know the truth.

Glenn, and the rest of the country, need to wake up before it’s too late.  obama has this country in kaos as it is, and tittering on the brink of collapse.  We are practically the laughing stock of the world because of obama and his tugs.  Just look at the members of his regime!  Communists and Socialists and sexual deviants!!  WTF?  And Glenn can’t see what’s going on here???  I don’t believe it………..What’s up Glenn???

First of all, I think they were ALL told by Fox news to stay away from the issue. I think every single one of them knows he is ineligible. Seriously, are we the only ones that know how to read Vatells Law of the Nations or to research Supreme Court cases. I think the reason they don’t go after him aside from what I have just stated, is the destablization it would cause in this country if America’s first black president were impeached for ineligibility. While I think there are some very brave conservative black Americans like Allen West, Herman Cain, and Star Parker, they are in the minority. In short, it would cause riots. Look at Occupy Wallstreet right now. I agree that there is some far out stuff on alternative news like Alex Jones, but there is a lot of truth on it too. In my opinion, if he loses the election, they still won’t go after him for the same reason. Makes me sick but this fraud is going to get pass all the way across the board. I would be shocked if I am wrong and by some chance going after him cannot be avoided. But then there will be somebody there to pardon just like all the other crooks. No wonder Justice Roberts stumbled all over the oath of office when he had to swear in Obama! Think about it.  

I do not understand.  Beck says that Obama was born in America but that in and as of itself that does not mean he is a Natural Born Citizen.  It does not match the definitionofr the Forefathers who set up the clause.   Where is the Proof that is all that is being asked not a supposition.  He produced a long for birth certificate that was proved to be forgery.  They would have continued in the deception until sheriff Joe declared it a fraud.  It is OK to lie to deceive until you are caught and then make up lame excuses for a cover up?  There is still to many questions for this to be brushed under the rug. Obama says he is not a socialist but his actions say other wise.  He says he is a Christian but his actions say otherwise.  He says he is a citizen that loves America but his actions show otherwise.  Simply put he is not who he says he is. 

Background, religion, and attitude from where one comes from has alot to do with their ideologies and how they would run the country.  

Hey deb thanks for the info.   The media once again with egg on their faces.      We also trusted our reps in Congress to vet this guy…there’s lots of blame to go around!

As I said, Facts are Facts, and there is alot of evidence that got shoved under the rug.

http://www.danielpipes.org/5544/barackobamasmuslimchildhood   Truth is truth!

Glenn and Rush would be off the air so fast if they agreed with the ineligibilty.  Both would be selling pencils out of a cup.  I don’t blame them for keeping mouth shut for once

Alot going on here…you can see that some people do not want to expose the truth, especially when information is removed that has been proved and researched.

Good thought; but knowing obama and his regime, it may be too late to VOTE him out..
He may get the armed disobedience he’s hoping for……..People, there’s  NOTHING I would put beyond obama and his thugs!!!  Remember: an armed man is a citizen; while an unarmed man is a subject…..Do you really want to be a subject to this regime???

Do you all realize the severity of all this?     This is big because what is to be done now?    And who will take charge?

I will never believe he was born in the US.  But IMO, it’s a moot point – he was never properly vetted to be president, he was never qualified by virtue of experience, or anything else, to be president, consequently, he’s the worst president in American history.  And, although he himself is a bad example of what a POTUS should be, what’s worse, he’s a figurehead being manipulated by the far leftists in his circle, and shielded by the left leaning, clueless, media.  But, that’s all been said, so let’s just vote him & his ilk out in Nov & start fresh with someone who knows what the heck he’s doing, someone who seems to actually care what happens in & to this country instead of this socialist amateur.

The Truth Does Not Live Here Anymore!  To Question Obama’s Eligibility With Boldness Is Denied!

The thing is, we can’t wait until Nov!    When someone needs to be fired, you don’t wait until the end of the week…you have him clear his desk and escorted out!
This guy is a danger to our nation and he needs to go now!

Sheriff Arpaio is the only one with any authority to take this on.  I give him alot of credit!  He wants to get to the truth!

Oh, just shut it jambo….good riddens.  Don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out!

Keeping quiet is one thing.  Lying and ridiculing others is another,

Yep, your opinions are studied (by yourself) and informed (by opinions, not facts).

Most of us just laugh at you.

 I concur.  To remain silent to the truth is bad enough ["Silence in the face of evil is evil itself: God will not hold us guiltless.  Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act."  ~Dietrich Bonhoeffer~].  But for Glenn to actively deny truth and promote its ridicule is simply detestable and without honor.  I can only think that he and his family have been threatened, but that still doesn’t explain his ongoing complicity in the coverup.

Cancel subscriptions…..what’s wrong with you people?    “Think about it.”!!!!!!!

I guess you don’t know Rush.

What is your problem?

When I went through Basic Training in 1967, I remember what my drill sergeant had to say:  “During your few weeks here, you’ve learned a lot of new words.  This does not mean that when you go back home that you need to continue to use them.  When you ask your mother to pass the butter, don’t describe it.”

These days, very few people can say “idiots” without first describing them.

Glenn said often, “Don’t just take my word for it, do your own research.”

It seems like Glenn is not following his own mantra.

Since he is NOT a “natural-born citizen” since his father was a British subject at the time (Kenya did not become independent until December 1963). It doesn’t matter where he was born as many already have pointed out.
 
Furthermore, he became an Indonesian citizen according to Indonesian citizenship law, when his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro adopted him.
 
In Obama’s registration card at Indonesia’s Fransiskus Assisi School, Obama is registered under the name Barry Soetoro by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro. The school card lists Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii. His religion is listed as Muslim.
(There is a photo of this registration card taken in 2007 by Associated by Tatan Syuflana, an Indonesian AP reporter and photographer)
 
In addition, Indonesian law at the time also did not recognize dual citizenship.
 
Regardless, he is not a “natural-born citizen”. Ipso facto, he is not eligible to be American president.
 
This also means that every decision by this administration taken from the first second of his office is invalid.
 
This should be of “some interest” to you Glenn, since you made such an excellent job of educating us about the founding fathers and the constitution.
 
I don’t’ know if you just made a “tactical decision” not to go there in the hope of gaining strategically, or you are under such pressure that you don’t want to “add this”.
 
Regardless Glenn, tragically you have became like a figure in the story “The Emperor’s New Clothes by H C Andersen, that would comment about EVERYTHING and point out what is wrong EXCEPT the very plain fact the King IS naked
 

It still matters now because if he is removed from office for not being a natural born citizen the all of the legislation he has signed will be negated!  That means Obamacare will go away, poof!  I belive it’s worth pursuing for this alone! 

Has anyone watched GBTV today?     What’s above is not what GB is saying on tv!

Dear Mr. Beck,

Since mid 2009 when I began watching your show on Fox, I was inspired by and developed tremendous respect for, the extensive research you and your team performed to establish the facts and find the real truth on any subject. I have a deep admiration and appreciation for the passion and pure honesty you’ve had in the delivery of your discoveries to the public. Now, you need to take an hour or so and watch the video of Sherriff Joe’s team presenting the evidence on the birth certificate. It is extremely boring to watch, but the factual information is extremely important, no matter where the sonofabitch was born. I respectfully submit that you review the court transcript from NJ last month, where Obama’s own attorney conceded that the birth certificate on the Whitehouse website was a forgery. You should look into why he has a CT prefix in his SS number. And why wouldn’t you research the legal name change in Canada, from “Barak Mounir Ubayd” to “Barack Hussein Obama” in 1982, in British Columbia.

I was very upset and disappointed when you left television for the internet. I am a GBTV member, & have been for over a year, but with all of the streaming difficulties, download errors, etc… you’ve lost a lot of former disciples like me, by choosing a more difficult medium. Everything I ever heard you explain, predict and report has come to pass except for one thing. Where are the hard hitting, revealing, 2 hour investigative reporting TV specials you promised us when you left Fox? Why did you leave TV? If not Fox, you could’ve gone somewhere else. You could’ve raised money to start your own cable network. I would have helped and so would many of my investors. You were always so incorruptible, sincere, dedicated and reliable; and you had an extremely real impact on enemies of our republic. You were so successful in revealing the truth behind the lies and shining light on the crimes the were being and continue to be perpetrated against our entire population. I know that between the death threats you must have received and living in New York City, surrounded by so much of what you were fighting against, you probably did not feel like you were winning, but my friend, you were WINNING! You were a threat to those that would seek to destroy our way of life. You scared the hell out Soros and you and I both know that if he could have sued you for anything you said, he would have spent whatever it costs to destroy you, but he couldn’t, because everything you said was true! I saw you on O’Reilly last night. It was really good to see you on TV again. If you get another chance to speak on Live TV, prime time, in front 3,000,000 plus people; I respectfully submit that you say something important! Make a headline! Say something provocative! Tell the truth with boldness and conviction as you used to do! We miss you sir. We need you more than ever and you have become practically irrelevant. It breaks my heart. I hope and I pray to God that you are producing something powerful that will reach everyone in the country and make a difference. That is what you used to do. You were part of the solution once but I respectfully submit that if you are only reaching people like me who will pay $99.00 per year, less the people who also like me, don’t have the time or the will to deal with the frustrations that come with trying to watch something on the internet, then sir, you are preaching to the proverbial choir and they are not the ones that need to be convinced. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. To make a difference again, to really help win the war, you need to capture the attention of ignorant voters and do what you do so very well, explain the truth in common sense terms with irrefutable evidence and help them see the light; but they won’t come looking for you.

May God bless you and your family Glen. May he give you knowledge of his will for you and the strength to carry it out. In Jesus name, amen.

-Disappointed In Dallas

PS: Let me know if you need any help

On this I disagree with Glen, “birtherism” has many facets, Natural Born Citizen is the big one. You either honor the Constitution or you don’t. B.O. does not fit in existing precedent as a NBC.

of course the fact that B.O. wont allow Hawaii to show the original and they wont certify that what he handed out last year is what they have makes you wonder.

Back on topic, disparaging people who have concerns about the Constitution being ignored is something Glen and his friend Orielly should stop. Or of course you could show us certifiable proof that 1) “Natural Born Citizen” is really just “Citizen” with more words or as far as where he was born – show us the certified Birth Certificate that Glen must have in his possession.

Dont get me wrong, I agree with Glen on almost everything, except the small matter of picking and choosing what part of the Constitution is worth fighting for, I thought that was the progressive way.

My apologies….I was posting to a different person and clicked on you instead…sorry!

It does matter where he was born, and if they are heck bend on hideing it !Someone will pull the plug for money.Then and only then the proff and truth will come out .Maybe that’s a thought who’s got the mullar to shake them bushes of greed?Glenn has to be carefull because the whitehouse is gunning for him.

No, it makes people like you, Glenn, look close minded and gutless.  Which shocks me because I’m a fan and a subscriber to GBTV.  If you don’t believe…fine.  But stop disrespecting those who have serious concerns over the mounting evidence relative to this issue, many of whom have been your fans for years, by snidely calling us “Birthers”.  That’s derogatory and you’re above that.  You of all people should know better than to lump us all together as a COLLECTIVE.  We are a growing mass of INDIVIDUALS who have legitimate questions about this.  We’re not stupid.  We understand the constitutional crisis that looking this issue dead in the face raises.  But if you and others like you with investigative resources and large bully pulpits had actually looked into this issue sooner (or actually AT ALL), rather than playing it for laughs, we might have been able to impeach this president (or even charge him criminally) long ago before things became so complicated.  So now you, who have admittedly dismissed this issue without even giving it any thought other than to make fun of your own viewers and listeners, are more learned than all of the forensic document examiners who have found more than one document to be a fake?  Oh really?  Do a segment on your television show explaining away the findings of the cold case posse.  Not radio–I want to see the visuals. Go ahead.  I dare you.  Because you can’t.  You do a lot of good, Glenn, but this time shame on you.

I apparently should have read Christine’s comments

Glenn is as complicit as the MSM in giving cover to this fraud.

Christine is spot on about Obama’s legality to be president if we were to apply constitution and law…of which many seem to ignore these days.   McCain’s status  was looked at with a microscope, but not Obama, even though many were already saying he is not eligible (based on his own words and what is in his books of “fact”).   I think there are too many descrepencies and great effort and cost to restrict access to what every other president has had to provide.  To not question and come to the conclusion this man is unqualified AND unfit  to be president is irresponsible, possibly criminal and certainly like sleeping around hoping one does not get and STD.  I do not agree with Glenn on some stuff, but on many items I do.  There is something just wrong with birth certificate(s), SSN number, witness statements, tampering, etc, etc.  The media and the citizens of this country should be investigating at the very least cronyism in it’s finest form.  More laws have been broken or ignored under this administration then the Watergate scandal that led a president to leave office. 

Content of character alone should be the reason folks should not have voted for him.  Howard Stern (not a fan) did a great job of demonstrating the emotional base for voting when he went to Harlem and asked folks about BO’s policies (which were actually JMc) and the folks agreed with McCains positions when delivered as Obama’s.   Imagine tha!!!!t. MLK, Bobby were of my generation and let me tell you this is not the content of character speech, but a continuation of the very think MLK and Bobby spoke out against.  Color is still an issue in a different way…as in being “international” or some form of race, sex, religious elite.  It is race wars, religious wars, etc, of the past, being played out with different facade.  I wonder if we are too smug…too superior to see…

Barak Obama at the very least is unfit because of his lies, his actions/record, his associations and his disregard for laws and constitution.  Almost all of which occur in direct conflict to the very foundation and principals of our nation.  The evidence supports that this man is trying to destroy everything that is America and the basis of our freedom through all means possible as clearly laid out by Glenn. 

 I wish folks would look at the evidence…it amazes me so many won’t even look at the evidence, but even more incredulous that those who have the evidence refuse…refuse…to see or acknowledge.  Hmmm, where in history has such blindness occured.  There are so many examples. 

While the handful of those “seeing” the evidence is getting bigger, it still seems to be only a handful.  Glenn Beck I understand is doing a phenomenal job of putting pieces together, but even before that when Obama put his hat in the ring, I was researching and his actions came out as a flaming progressive plus….  David Horowitz, Joel Rosenberg, David Barton, John Hagee, Jack Van Impe, others and my own experience of things disappearing during research…when I would go back and check articles, pictures, utube, etc. were no longer available or gone and sometimes the stories changed…one of the key sites that in my humble opinion seemed to be messing with my head was Snopes. My first intro was with David Horowitz and his linkage of radicals to today and the agenda (saul alinsky).  I suppose it can be said I am one of those handful that tend to see a puzzle and put it together before anyone else, a gut feeling or that God keeps my eyes open, whatever it is, it or rather he was not right.  I physically got ill when he became president and when as president he announced we were no longer a Christian nation my first thought/action was to think…like phaoroh he just pronounced judgement on America and I prayed. 

My filters to fact finding take on both a seen and unseen filter.  I  began with my position that all things worthy follow the Bible (by their fruits, not their words).  Then, that Israel and Bible prophecy are central to what is happening.   I am grateful to Glenn Beck for giving me info on  the involvement of Soros in so many areas.  Glenn is a an excellentt teller of information, his gift is tying multiple sources together in a understandable form.  I knew he was spot on since I had been researching too, but did not even see the overall depth and breadth…but did have the Bible prophecy to know it was happening but not the mechanics.  I am not a fan of Romney, but my filter is the Holy Bible and Hebrew teachings and I know that without going back to the roots of a nation who’s God is Jehovah, America will fall.  I also know that “judgement” or fall will be more harsh (as he has done with Israel in past) because of our foundation and His blessings.  I also know that I am priveleged to stand up and against those who would destroy the foundations of this country.  It was God that made her great as testified by those who created this nation.  HE is the source and inspiration, without him we will surely fall.

 If Glenn was taking “the high ground” on the birth certificate issue, he surely moved into the low plains when he started ridiculing others for believing facts.

I was wondering, it didn’t make sense.

Where to begin? There is so much wrong with Glenn’s thinking on this issue.

As a published author who has dealt with an agency, the agency always requires the author to write their own bio! 

Second, it is far different for a person to say, “I’m Italian,” than it is to WRITE “I was BORN in Italy!”

Third, this latest piece of evidence is not an isolated document. If Glenn would have one of his staff people watch the Arpaio video regarding the birth certificate – no let me amend my last remark. This is too damn important for Glenn to get it so wrong. Glenn needs to take the 20 minutes and watch the video himself, so he can see just how fraudulent the WH website birth certificate is!

Lastly, why has the media in lockstep come up with the same lame excuse as to why Obama claimed he was born in Kenya?? WTF is that all about?

Every single one who has done that has not watched the Arpaio video. It’s journalistic malpractice at best when there is only one group of professional investigators who has analyzed   the actual document, yet it is the one thing the media refuses to look at.

Janet77, “how about making sure that everyone gets vetted”. My sentiments exactly!States must require proof of citizenship for all candidates and all voters!

“How about making sure that the Constitution is followed”. Certainly.

We can all agree on these points. The problem is how to make it happen.

“Marco Rubio is not eligible either”. Can you share your evidence and source for this? Mr. Rubio was born in Miami, Florida May 28, 1971. I know some of Mr. Gore’s partisans probably wish Florida was not part of the United States, but it is.

Again, let’s all join together to defeat Mr. Obama and his cohorts at every level of government!

Rick Storlie, I like the term “may” in your post.  The point is, he “may not” be a citizen at all.  If he were, then where is the legitimate birth certificate?  A forgery is a lie, and such a lie must have a purpose, otherwise the lie is meaningless and the forgery a wasted effort.

Glenn, I used to watch your show every day.  I can’t any more, but not for lack of access.

Your resistance to even acknowledge the possibility that BS-Barry isn’t NBC, is really disconcerting.  Quit thumbing your nose at those who have concern over the (in)eligibility issue, else you lump yourself with the FERAL “judges” who are going all Lewinski for Obummer.

Obama – BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, is not a Natural Born Citizen.

A final observation…while many have been speaking out that communist/socialist/progressive  and dangers and I could not understand why many do not see the danger or care…I finally get it…no matter how well laid out…the majority have not been taught/learned that the very things that are cool to dis today (christianity, Constitution, godly behavior) are not a movitivation.  They have been taught it is irrelevant and that the sins of the past based on isms will be different with them and therefore many of the events happening are not repugnant and even embraced…

I agree Janet! Let’s see everyone on here who claims to be so supportive of Joe Arpaio stop right now and take the time to donate at least $20.00 to his legal defense fund.  Do a web search and you’ll find it.  He needs and deserves our support.  The gates of hell are about to be opened against him and he needs money for the fight.  Come on everybody.  Talk is cheap.  Let’s put our money where our mouths are.  And if you are a person of faith, PLEASE pray DAILY for our country.  It is under attack from within and without like never before.  God blessed our free America and this battle is His IF we call upon him.  If you need inspiration, do a web search of the 6 day war in Israel.  I did and I was AMAZED at God’s unmistakeable hand in the outcome.  And spread the word.  Let’s not let our nation go down on our watch, while we sit comfortably on our couches playing with our laptops.  Let’s use our time and pool our financial resources to make a difference while we still can.  God Bless…

 …while Lt. Colonel Lakin pines in prison because of this usurper!

I would like people to know that everytime I am on this website, someone tries to download cookies to my email address to Spy……We have been told people are sending cookies to infect our computers…The Truth is very important, if you don’t want us to tell the truth then quit sending us the stories.  Its easier to tell the truth than it is to tell a lie!  

Christine is right. I love Glenn and respect his thinking but he is wrong to dismiss the birther stuff out of hand. Logic shows that either way Obama is a liar: either he lied about being born in Kenya to look exotic or cool as GB said or he lied about being born in HI so he could run for POTUS. BTW, there seems to be more evidence about a Kenyan birth than a HI-an birth. Voters do not want a candidate who lacks veracity! Remember Al Capone did not expect to be taken down for such a petty crime as income tax evasion when he had clearly murdered so is it possible that O is confident that no one will go after him for fraud on this point?!. Also, O came out for gay marriage so that if he loses the election, he and his poodle lap dogs, the lamestream media can blame us bigoted, knuckle-dragging Neanderthal-Americans for gay marriage costing him the election – in order to protect their much more important dream of Socialism-Communism coming soon to the good ole US of A. Obama is throwing gay marriage under the bus so he does not lose the election over his Socialistic policies. No one is talking about this point!

 Renat2000, is this the video you requested?

http://www.westernjournalism.com/sheriff-joe-arpaio-obama-eligibility-investigation-results-live-stream/

Glenn, you’re missing the point. Forget citizenship issues for the moment. Obama’s biography with his publisher states “Kenyan-born.” Publisher says “fact-checking error”; well, we know that is BS. Publishers take the facts in their author’s bio from the author. And what, Obama said “Hawaii” and some stenographer accidentally typed “Kenya”? And then for 16 years Obama never noticed? Then in 2007 they change the reference to Hawaii. Why?

OK, maybe he did it because he thought it made him cool. Maybe he has college documents that identify him as Kenyan born and he had to keep things consistent. And maybe, when his aspirations became Presidential, he had to hide it. So, a simple question Mr Obama: were you lying then, or are you lying now?

Keep asking that question until he answers it once, then keep on asking it until he answers it honestly. The man has no integrity; this is as good a moment as any to nail him on it.

Why can’t people realize there is a difference between being a “citizen” and being a “natural born citizen”.  I think people disregard the difference intentionally because they don’t want to admit they have been snookered. No body wants to feel foolish.  Something worse than that is feeling oppressed and betrayed.  

 w. Parker, you nailed it quite well; Glenn has gone from being called crazy many years ago for looking into things others would not to being called by others crazy for NOT looking into the one thing that is an obvious forgery after he left Fox.  Fox, in the mean time, went from “fair and balanced” to “somewhat unbalanced” IMHO.

Is Glenn on the same track now?

Regardless of there BO was born, he is not a natural born citizen as per constitutional mandate. The natural born qualification was written into the constitution as per Law of Nations.  The president’s father must be a citizen of the USA. 
I am an American, my wife is British, our son was born in Turkey. Of which country is my son a citizen abd why?  The Law of Nations settled the question before our country was born.

 Glenn, please be honest with the citizens of the U.S. and tell us that you have studied Obama’s “Certificate of Live Birth.” By studying it I mean really, really look at it, and focus especially on the signature of Alvin T. Onaka, the Hawaii State Registrar. Magnify it about 16 times, and look at the capital “A” of his first name. There you will see a “smiley face” that was drawn by Alvin T. Onaka himself! What is Onaka trying to tell us? I think it’s his way of telling us that Obama’s C of L B is a false document, and that he was NOT born in Hawaii as he claims.
If Obama was not born in Hawaii, then where was he born? Your guess is as good as mine, and I say he was born in Kenya!

He can’t even prove who his real father is or what his real name is, where he was born is indeed a mystery.

Well said.

http://conspiracyparanormal.blogspot.com

Too late to impeach but never too late to vote him OUT. Just hope the electoral college of the well educated feel the same way.

 Ling Ling, never let anyone call you ‘racist’ for citing historical fact.

And, you are right – I remember when the term “African American” came about in the mid-1970s, along with TV shows like “The Mod Squad”.

It does matter, constitutionally, where he was born. His mother was a US citizen. If born in the US he is natural born. If both parents are US citizens and he was born outside of the US, he is natural born. If born here and both parents are citizens of another country, such as diplomats, he is not natural born.
Yes there are a lot of problems with the birth certificate: the number sequence is off, the purported father’s name is misspelled, and his birth date is incorrect (according to immigration documents) and putting the alleged father down as Senior and the “son” as the II, indicates no blood relationship.
My theory is that POTUS is not related to the purported father, that Obama Sr was used to cover up another paternity, possibly that of Obama II’s “mentor” the us citizen communist, who he greatly resembles. The Sr Obama never saw the child before he was 10, and he came to the US at someone’s great expense to “fix” and or reverse the adoption of Barry Soetero and establish his paternity. The only thing known for sure is that the “mentor” had naked pictures of the 16 yr old purported mother of Obama II. I wonder if she was really his mother. The only way to know for sure is if DNA testing is done on the purported 1/2 sister (soetero) and the male descendant of the “mentor” to establish actual (US citizen) paternity, or DNA testing of purported Kenyan relatives to see if there is any relationship there.
My bet is he is a natural born citizen, but since he was raised and educated as a non-citizen, a communist/socialist, US hating mother, and a us hating communist “mentor” and surrounded by many other US hating, socialist/communist/domestic terrorist friends (Ayres et al) and his ties to organized crime and foreign influences, and his lack of understanding of the principles of this country’s founding and Constitution,
he is unfit to be POTUS, though the Constitution is not violated in the letter, just the spirit, which in my mind is more important. We need to fire him, but not with the birther argument, with his performance.
BTW, it appears that US citizens that adopt foreign born babies, get birth certificates conferring natural born status on the children.

 You are correct! Glenn is doing us all a disservice by going along with the suck-up news media that wanted Obama to be president so badly that they never bothered to ask ANY questions about his past, or read even ONE piece of paper about his true background!

I have had this same argument with many here about Marco Rubio not being eligible.    I’ve gone as far as posting word for word from Article II.
I have yet to win the argument!    Because his parents were not legal until after he was born.  I saw nothing in the Constitution that said anything about the parents of said candidate.

A couple of interesting reads are, Google, The Obama File, DNC Conpiracy,

Explains that Pelosi and Germand signed a different Certificate of Nomination for Hawaii than the other 49 states.

Also google, On the Free Republic 4-14-2011 the article Is Barack Obama AKA Barry Soetoro by Tom McGregor.

A few other things to read to confirm the evil is this administration are,

goggle, what is happening the small US farms, the media is not covering this.

Google, what is happening to the water in Tombstone, Az. The people are not allowed to repair the water lines because of the federal gov’t.

google, how it is suggested the Steve Chu sabotaged the repair of the BP pipeline. The kill effect just as it was succeeding, they needed a bigger disaster because they were trying to pass Cap and Trade.

I thank Glenn every day for what he does for this country.  I’ve never understood his dismissal of the birth certificate issue.  If obama isn’t what he says he is, then we are in for the biggest constitutional crisis this country has ever seen.  How can we believe obama on anything?  He’s the biggest liar I’ve ever seen.  He hides everything from everybody.  His student transcripts, Michelles transcripts, Kagans connection to the White House his religion  Everything.  The only way to tell if obama is lying is if his lips move.

I recently saw a piece by Jon Stossel about Tombstone.   You know, I think Glenn is getting a raw deal here……I also just saw his show and I didn’t hear or see anything that would suggest Glenn doesn’t agree with us….what’s going on here?

GB just showed a clip of Bill Clinton calling Obamas life a “fantasy”….what did he mean by that?   Clinton didn’t say it to mean “special”, he said this when his wife was the other candidate.

I agree!  It’s probably the only way we have to get rid of all the
damage he has done and/or allowed to our freedom in these past
three years.

Glenn Beck, I note with interest the number of people that are dropping out of your following, according to the posts that have been showing more and more often.

You will be proud to be taken into the arms of the left, because it appears that your once independent way of thinking and demanding that listeners do their own research is turning into the lame stream media’s “follow the path of everyone else in the media”, “disavow any wrongs” and “accept the unacceptable”.

I would not be surprised it left wing idiots like Fine Tapestry, mtclayboy, sticky chin (never can remember his spelling), and others of that ilk start to fully embrace you as one of their own.

Understand here that I am not expressing an opinion, just an observation.

For me, I will continue to follow your posts simply to have something to think about, but this does not mean that I will totally agree with you at all times.  I will do my own research, so don’t expect me to blindly follow your lead.

I have always been independent in my way of thinking and many on the right consider me to be far too liberal.  Liberals, on the other hand, like to call me a “right-winger”, and frankly, I could care less what they think.  But one thing I cannot stand is a liar, and most liberals are far more prone to lie and sling dirt than conservatives.

I would not call you a liar, but I do believe that you are avoiding serious issues at times.  Perhaps you might do well to return to your way of being an instigator as you used to be.

I believe you are wrong. The Constitution is quite clear that anyone born in the US is a natural born citizen, unless the parent(s) are subject to a foreign jurisdiction. That was to exclude diplomats and foreign visitors from citizenship, which in the US, is birth location only.  The naturalization act of (I think) 1954 was to clear up the question of children born overseas of at least one US citizen (I was almost born in Germany in 1947
and had a sister born in Japan).
It appears now that US citizens who adopt foreign born children get birth certificates conferring natural born citizenship.
I carefully studied the amendment relating to citizenship and I cannot find in the Constitution, nor in any court case relating or subsequent laws, that what you stated exists.
If you meet the strictures in the Naturalization Law and have raised your son in the US, as a citizen, especially between the ages of 12-18 he is a US citizen. Your wife may be naturalized if she chooses and passes the citizenship test. Your son may hold dual citizenship if Turkey has birth location citizenship, though I do not think the US allows anyone to hold dual citizenship.

 The Law of Nations has no legal standing in the United States.

 The US does allow dual citizenship, they just don’t encourage it. I live in Michigan and have a few friends who have dual citizenship with Canada.

 I have been screaming from the rooftops too! I get called “crazy” by die-hard democrats who will not even take 15-minutes to look at Obama’s so-called “Certificate of Live Birth,” and the “smiley face” that the Hawaii State Registrar, Alvin T. Onaka put there himself, and this so- called “document” can even be downloaded from the OFFICIAL White House website.

 As much as I sympathize with your sentiments, the reality is that “natural born US Citizen” was intended to keep one man in particular from running for President — Alexander Hamilton, who was born in the Caribbean, and was viewed as being to sympathetic to an American monarchy.  If your reading were correct, then none of Washington, Jefferson, Adams (father and son), Madison, Monroe, or Jackson could have been President.  Beck’s position is sound for now, and he clearly is capable of changing his mind when/if the evidence is clear and convincing.  More to the point, however, Beck clearly believes Obama’s life is a work of fiction, which raises the larger issue that is demonstrable: Obama’s a psychopath. That scares me.

 It IS a forgery, and the Hawaii State Registrar, Alvin T. Onaka, agrees!

 Would you really rather Romney run against Hillary?

Well, there will never be a day when all the people agree, that’s for sure.
I made this postings for those that might still be on the fence and haven’t done their homework and might not believe there is evil surrounding this WH.
The so called MSM has let us down once again. Gone are the days of the true investigative reporter. They once were the checks and balances in getting the truth to the People.
Now, it is just one pagenof propaganda and slanted opinions after another.

If the media had spend half the time vetting this guy as they did tearing President Bush down, just think how much more would be exposed and further down the road we would be.

I can’t believe your position on this issue, Glenn. I have to agree with several others on here, I will be canceling my subscription. I’m very disappointed, I really thought you were an honest man with integrity. But, as intelligent and resourceful as you are, there’s just no way that you don’t see this truth so I’ve got to believe that you are lying or covering up for some reason. There is so much “Proof”, not hearsay but absolute “PROOF” on this that any sensible person can see the truth in this. Sorry, Glenn, but I just can’t continue my subscription knowing that you are not being honest with us.

 Wrong. “Naturalized citizen” is NOT eligible. Natural born is. And where do you get “both parents” have to be born in the USA. Not true. The children born in the US of Immigrants are eligible.

I find it funny that both Glen and Rush come up with much the exact same explanation. And yes I have to admit it makes perfect sense. But I’m still troubled by ot just Glen but Mark, Rush and Sean as to why they never want to talk about the definition of Natural Born Citizen. This is such an easy thing to see, yet no one still wants to talk about it. I know as many others know the true definition. With all and everything that Glen reads, I am surprised he has yet to even come out and give his take/opinion on the meaning of the clause. Very troubling.

This issue has been (finally) completely vetted by Sheriff Arpaio.  What part of the 81 minute Press Conference (that was totally ignored by the Liberal Media) where Arpaio shows, without a doubt, how the Birth Cert was “constructed by computer”, is not acceptable to Beck ?  Glenn has never even mentioned whether or not he has even seen the evidence presented by Arpaio.  Then there’s the Selective Service Card that’s a Fraud, as well as the Social Security Card that has no answer for it’s origin….  Come ON Glenn !  There’s a reason for a President to not have any “other” affiliations with another Country or Nationality…. How do we like it so far ?

I agree with the other posts here.  Glen, do as you say to us; do your research.  Then comment on the issue and the definition of Natural Born Citizen.  If you don’t do that, I will cancel my subscription too and encourage everyone I know and that will listen to do the same.  We vote with our wallets folks.  Follow this lead.  Do the research Glen or we’re cutting you off.

Well, Biden would be President and the independents would have to step up to nominate Hillary, that’s iffy after what they experienced with Obama. Even if Romney ran against Hillary she would be running on Obama’s record because she would be more of the same. She supported Obama Care and wouldn’t repeal it; he got further than she did with Hillary Care. At this point a Democrat would have to renounce Obama policies and come across as fiscally conservative and they can’t do that unless they lie, which is possible! Anne McGee

We don’t even know Obama’s real name. He has at least three aliases, including Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, and Harrison J. Bounel. He has used at least two fraudulently acquired social security numbers. The one he is currently using has a Connecticut prefix, but he has no public record of ever having an address in Connecticut. The guy is a walking lie. He is Satan incarnate. The choice, now, between Obama and Romney, is literally, spiritually, and philosophically black and white, meaning as clear as night and day. Romney vs. Lucifer’s fece. Wipe and flush. Elect Romney!

Trust me, no matter how hard Obama tries to divert attention away from his own economic treason, he cannot divorce himself from the worst case of economic terrorism in American history. He may have inherited a bad economy, but he has drenched it in gasoline and burned it, and then lied, claiming he has improved it. He has socialized it to the dregs of communism. How is that improvement? Turn him over to the Somali pirates or the Mexican drug lords. He’ll fit right in.http://conspiracyparanormal.blogspot.com

 To all of you who think there is some other requirement than location of birth to be President, and to those who seemingly have it backwards or think both parents have to be born in the US or that naturalized citizens is the requirement, not location of birth, here are a couple of commentaries/references/court cases to correct your error:

In 1875, U.S. Attorney General Edwards Pierrepont was presented with an query from the Secretary of State, Hamilton Fish,
a young man, surnamed Steinkauler (his first name was never mentioned),
had been born in Missouri in 1855, a year after his father was
naturalized a U.S. citizen. When he was four years old, his father
returned to Germany with him and both had stayed there ever since. The
father has relinquished his American citizenship. Now the young man is
20 years old and about to be drafted into the German army. What is this
young man’s situation as a native-born American citizen? After studying
the relevant legal authorities, Pierrepont wrote:[21]

Under the treaty [of 1868 with Germany], and in harmony with American
doctrine, it is clear that Steinkauler the father abandoned his
naturalization in America and became a German subject (his son being yet
a minor), and that by virtue of German laws the son acquired German
nationality. It is equally clear that the son, by birth, has American
nationality, and hence he has two nationalities, one natural, the other
acquired. …. Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen.
There is no law of the United States under which his father or any other
person can deprive him of his birthright. He can return to America at
the age of 21, and in due time, if the people elect, he can become
President of the United States….. I am of opinion that when he reaches
the age of 21 years he can then elect whether he will return and take
the nationality of his birth, with its duties and privileges, or retain
the nationality acquired by the act of his father.

Most of this passage, including the line about being elected
President, was quoted approvingly by the U.S. Supreme Court in its 1939
decision in Perkins v. Elg, [22] a case involving a similar question about an American-born girl in Sweden.

What’s annoying, Glenn, is you not understanding what the Constitution meant by “Natural born citizen.”  Get a clue.  The guy is illegally our President.  What part of this do you not understand?

Just a good example of why I dropped my GBTV subscription…  Glenn chooses to put down a growing list of information pointing to the Fact that Obama is not a U.S. Citizen as required by the Constitution to hold the office of President… 

Glenn does not see the importance of a Constitutional President, he is like Obama in skirting the REAL ISSUES..  For if Obama is truly in office illegally then EVERY LAW, DECREE and ORDER he has signed is VOID…  Understand that, let it sink-in…  VOID…. 

Obamacare is Kaput…  Many regulations are Kaput…  Laws are Kaput…. 

Now ask yourself, who on the RIGHT, CONSERVATIVES, MEDIA, would gain from keeping Birthers QUIET???  Why even after Professional Arizona investigators put their reputations on the line stating that Obama’s Birth Certificate is a poorly done Forgery does the RIGHT refuse to intensify the investigation on a FEDERAL LEVEL??  What are they gaining from ignoring a blatant breaking of the law by Obama and those helping him??  Why is Glenn helping to keep the lid on the BIGGEST FRAUD on the American People ever and has been allowed to spend this country into almost unrecoverable DEBT??? 

Glenn is, in my mind, joining the ranks of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton who live off of the turmoil and work to keep things in turmoil for profit…

 Along with the commie supreme court judges that he appointed.

This is one time I disagree with Beck, every F’ing document produced by this SOB is fake, forge or ?.

Christine is wrong. The ONLY requirement for eligibility is birth on US soil, parentage has nothing to do with it. The Constitution, all laws passed subsequent, all court cases and all opinions support this. Apparently, not just Dems, progressives, and liberals, misunderstand, misquote and misinterpret the Constitution and history.
The man who goes by the name Obama, POTUS is a fraud and a liar on many levels, but there is no proof, yet, he was not born in the US. The forged BC is not proof of that; it may be proof that Obama Sr was not his father and/or Anne Dunham was not his mother, but neither proves or disproves his location of birth which is still a question. My concern is his upbringing and his incoherent contradictory anti american  ideaology.

oh, BTW, since the release of obama’s fake birth certificate, I am a “Birther” and proud of it.

Beck and O’Reilly seem to go out of the way to protect Obama.  I heard that Obama was threatening to use the FAA to go after any TV news stations that bring up the birth certificate.  I guess they just don’t want to lose their jobs.

What was Glenn’s take on Sheriff Arpoa (sp?) in Arizona and his research on Obama’s legitimacy?

Hey Glenn, it’s working…….you have everyone’s attention! As usual, good work. Loyalty is hard to come by; You now know who your friends are……count me in.

He laughed at it.

That seems strange to me. Maybe Glenn is playing the opposition like the politicians do- to give us the illusion that there are two sides when they are all in cahoots with each other to play us. Reminds me of the time he backed off on the FEMA Camps. Former Gov. Jesse Ventura proved their existence. Whats that word again? Shill?

I do not doubt Glenn and his intentions. I’m a loyal listener/viewer since he first came to Fox. I do not believe for one minute Glenn thinks O was born here. He and Rush have to be careful because of legalities and I don’t fault them. How quickly people turn..it’s shocking to me.

gotta say…I sure hope your right…I was a sort of birther for awhile..I knew his mother had renoucned her american citizenship and I thought he might have been born in england..because that is where she went..for awhile anyway…that woman moved around…maybe barack had a strange childhood and he is now trying to catch up on his fanticizing..lol…he is delusional…it would be crazy if we found out later he was not born here..then what he would try to establish was look at me…I wasnt an american born and ran the country so this should open the door now for anyone to be president…he better not even go there ..I do believe he is trying to distract everyone …not just with that but all the other idiotic things happening….

Yes, sunshine, my opinions are informed by opinions. Just like everybody else. It’s not my problem you understand nothing about epistemology and don’t get that. Keep laughing. Everything, including me, is a joke.

I’ll find the link here with Beck on his radio show, laughing and making fun of us.

 FAA? Don’t you mean the FCC-that is the one that can have any sway over broadcasting.
Beck and O’reilly aren’t protecting OBAMA. They are trying to be rational, which is far more than you are FAA really? It really doesn’t matter whether the bc was forged. What is important is that the opposition to Obama is rational and perceived to be so and directed at Obama’s performance. The fact that the BC was forged, and I do believe it was, does not prove or disprove his location of birth. We need to do what is possible and rational and continue to hammer on his failures and contempt for the founding principles and his lies

Mr. Beck
While I tend to agree with some of your take on the birther argument.   I do have a problem if he is a citizen why does he work hard to suppress evidence that would prove it.  Why did he file and accept funding as a foreign student (if he is a citizen would that not be fraud). 

In the words of Don Corleone….Never let your enemies know what you’re thinking.

Hey folks, Let me be clear….Obama is a work of fiction; A fiction writers dream; A true puppet in every sense of the word. Why are you all picking on Glenn, when the issue is Barack Hussein Obama…….you’ve all proven a point….. Look what the other hand is dong! Jeesh!

 Obviously, you don’t have a clue. He is only illegally President if he was not born here. A forged BC does not prove that one way or the other. Even if Obama Sr is not the father or is, has nothing to do with his eligibility to be POTUS, unfortunately. Practically speaking, the issue is useless. His performance is not and the only way to get rid of him. All those terrible bills he signed, will not go away even if you could remove him based on eligibility. They were passed by Congress, and would be resigned, if necessary by his successor. Biden is actually worse.

When you think of the largest % of which people voted for BHO, can you even begin to imagine what would happen in the cities if he were deemed ineligible? Why do you think he was “selected” in the first place? 

No you are the one that is wrong. Please go read the Constitution, I did and she is 100% correct….

As much as it would be a good thing for the country, the House brings articles of Impeachment, but it has to pass the Senate. That ain’t gonna happen with Scary Reid holding all the bills on his desk! Barry has Reid in his back pocket. Reid isn’t gonna make a move against his meal ticket and the one sure way he stands to be re-elected to the Senate. Why do you think all the bills stop at Reids desk? So that Barry can say that the Congress is a do-nothing Congress and he can issue Executive Orders to run the country ‘his’ way.

Yep, Barry is a danger to our nation and he has to go, but the only way is through the vote. Or his handlers get sick of him screwing up the agenda and make him take a back seat to Hillary or Bill. There’s also the threat that there will be a “Wag the Dog” moment that jeopardizes his life…but that’s for a sympathy vote.

 Wrong-the legislation would not be negated. If necessary, his VPsuccessor would resign the legislation. Biden is worse. We need to concentrate on getting both houses of Congress conservative to repeal the legislation and vote the lying fraud out of office. Let’s be practical.

The Birthers every Birther is just too much of a wuss to come out look straight into the camera be honest and say it has nothing to do with if Obama  was born in Hawaii or is a christian we need to defeat him because he is a “N” word and I challenge any of them to deny it” 

There are those who know REAL secrets that the BC is a fraud.

It was Glenn Beck who “taught” us to not listen to him (Glenn Beck) and to find out for ourselves.

Well, Mr. Beck, we did just what YOU told us to do, and now you’re making fun of us and telling us that we’re wrong.  Most of your members here on your site have told you over and over again that they “know” the truth about obama and yet you yourself refuse to “investigate”.

Obama is a lying, anti-american fraud.  Why do you think he’s not loyal to our country, the United States of America?  Because, either he wasn’t born here or he doesn’t hold true natural born citizenship.  Either way, he is not eligible to be our president, the leader of the free world.

He had admitted himself that he had Indonesian citizenship, not duel citizenship, therefore, obama would have had to regain his American citizenship and yet there are no public records that state just that. Obama admitted having a British passport because of his father, meaning that obama has British citizenship, no records of him denouncing his British citizenship, but he did announce that he no longer is keeping a British passport.  You don’t need to renew your passport to keep your citizenship.

Mr. Beck, clearly you are defending obama on this issue and it’s confusing to many of us here.
It might be a good idea to not bring up the subject because your “distracting” idea just does not hold water.  As Donald Trump has said, “I’m not going there”.  We all know that Donald Trump believes that obama’s birth certificate(s) are a fraud, but he’s protecting himself and his family, that we can understand.

By the way, in August 2008 (we’re Democrats), we called Dianne Feinstein’s office and asked about obama’s eligibility, her office replied, “It doesn’t matter where he was born, the American people have vetted him”.  Everyone knows the truth.

OMITT OBAMA ~ OMITT OBAMA ~ OMITT OBAMA ~ OMITT OBAMA 
 

I believe the Constitution says the following, that you had to be in America by a certain date (1772 or close to that year) or be a natural born citizen. This allowed Madison, Jefferson, etc. to be President but after the founder’s generation, you had to be a natural born citizen and that has already gone through the Supreme Court once in the 1800′s and the definition is both parents are US citizens and you are born on US soil (or soil owned by the US or legally a part of the US such as a consulate or military base, so McCain was elegible although born in a military hospital in Panama to two US citizens). Marco Rubio is not elegible since both his parents were not yet citizens at the time of his birth. He is a US citizen but not a natural born US citizen.

He meant that the Obama history/background is FICTION. Everything is made up and the media bought it hook, line and sinker. Barry is a fraud, a Manchurian Candidate. And now he’s the puppet POTUS with all the secret codes and sensitive info at his fingertips…to do with as he will. He wouldn’t hesitate to sell those codes, if he hasn’t all ready. He’s already sold his soul to the devil.

It’s called the Chicago Razzle-Dazzle. Smoke and Mirrors. Kabuki Theater. Clinton originated the techniques.

Maybe it’s because he has ridiculed and mocked us and regard us as “the birthers”.  He just didn’t disagree.  When he was on Fox he literally screamed into the camera at all of us to get off this issue, then he has the nerve to complain how he is ridiculed. 

quite a few felt this way, about from the beginning.wonder what it cost to pull this off for so long.can rest assure,high government figures like:kissenger,b.clinton,r.gates,r.ibs, greenspan, lit goes on, was behind this 4 years ago.funny, that when grandma ,living in hawaii,made comment,she was in kenya ,when he was born there, he made trip tp hawaii, to vist,vert shortly ,grandma died. a lot of dirty play going on.     pl,orl,fl

wrong, wrong, wrong. Your parents do NOT have to be citizens. You only have to be born in the US to be eligible. In 1939, the Supreme Court affirmed that a person born on US soil, to a parent, who renounced his own citizenship , was a US citizen natural born and eligible to be President. Since the beginning, all subsequent cases, opinions, decisions, laws affirm that natural born citizens are citizens by birth on US soil, regardless of parentage.
Mario Rubio is eligible, as is Bobby Jindahl and even, apparently, foreign born adopted children of US citizens

SO! Go ivestigate Sheriff Arpaio! I Believe Arpaio over anyone else who looks into the Phony in Chief ! Go check out his SS# and his Draft Reg,!!!! I say he’s an imposter!

 I have read and studied the Constitution and all the laws and writings and court cases subsequent. I actually have a degree in Constitutional law and have first hand experience in the matter, with immigrants who were not citizens but their children were born here and were and are natural born citizens.  In 1939, the Supreme Court affirmed previous decisions, court cases and laws that only birth on US soil, not parentage, conferred natural born citizenship. Christine is wrong and so are you. You apparently didn’t understand what you read

A natural born citizen, one who was born on US soil, is eligible to be President. Parentage has nothing to do with it. The Supreme Court has affirmed this several times and all laws, decisions, court cases, etc support this.
The forged BC and I do believe it is forged for reasons possibly other than location of birth, matters not. We need to vote him out. It is the only practical solution.
He would have to have renounced his US citizenship, to void his status as natural born US citizen, not renounce his British citizenship, which was acquired, if he had it. Since his purported father was Kenyan, after returning to Kenya (no longer being British colony) and he was “unadopted” when he was 10 and thus no longer acquired Indonesian citizenship, how he had any legal British passport is unclear, but it has nothing to do, pratically speaking, with citizenship. It is clear only that he is a liar and a fraud and was raised and educated by liars and frauds. That should make him ineligible but doesn’t, not legally or constitutionally. Look at who has been President, who lied and defrauded. He is the worst in recent history because he is stupid. Be Practical. Vote him out and vote in the Congress that will protect us.

ALL this is 4 YEARS to late! Are we so  lax that we can’t find out for sure who this POS in the White House is! CORRUPTION like no other! Nixon was a saint compared to O’Scumo!

Wait just a minute , we just found the newest released birth certificate. All along it was in Connecticut. And also his Social Security card was found as well. Oops sorry that was covered up by more Stimulus dollars. It seems even with the dollars devalued state people still go for a good bribe. This man can’t be real his background is always in motion never quite clear for anyone to see.The hand is always moving for the eyes to see. Really scary. We should all be scared for our America.

So Beck expects everyone to believe that Obama’s history is made up, but we absolutely MUST not believe that the reality is that Obama WAS born in Kenya…as he obviously told his publisher he was.  And his publisher is not the only one he told that he was born in Kenya, there are other articles coming to light where Obama proudly proclaims his Kenyan heritage. 

“All it does is continue to take attention away from the economy and the destructive path he has put this country on.” – Glenn BeckNonsense!  If Obama does not meet the Constitutional requirement of a “natural born US citizen”, it makes him a fraud of a President & EVERYTHING he did could be declared illegal, null & void.  I don’t see that as a minor distracting thing!  The trashing of the Constitution is important.  Everything about Obama’s history is questionable.  I also believe Sheriff Arpaio, Obama’s fraudulent LFBC & Selective Service papers need to be investigated as does his CT SS# issued to a dead resident of CT.
Glenn Beck is the fool & this is one reason I cancelled my subscription to GBTV.

Why then doesn`t he show everyone his birth certificate and end the hold damn mess ? Because his birth certificate is from Kenya! I know this hard to believe BUT even Glenn Beck can be wrong.

I am not what they call a Birther, I also have seen over the years, liberals are most always the ones to bring up the “N” word in any forum.  It’s just a shame.  You are the ones who use this crap with any situation.  You are the bigets and phonies. 
And I would speak in denial for these people who have ligitamit questions. And I pray this doesn’t  turn out to be true.  Major horror for America.

First, Thank you Christine you are correct.
Mr. Spork, I suspect that Glenn does know and realizes that the Senate, currently controlled by the Democrats, will never step up to the plate. I think it is they that D.O.J. Holder referred to as “Cowards!”
So it is up to the millions on these boards to get the truth out while Glenn exposes the things that are not requiring the “Cowards” actions.

The Constitution, Article. 1. Section. 2., second paragraph, No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained …”Seven Years a Citizen of the United States,”  Note the “Citizen” only wording
The Constitution, Article. 1. Section. 3., third paragraph, No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained …. “nine Years a Citizen of the United States,” Note again the “Citizen” only wording.
The Constitution, Article. II. Section. 1., fifth paragraph,
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President. Note the specific use of the “natural born Citizen” wording.
So yes, the Constitution does make a specific wording difference for those who think it only takes a citizen to be President.

This is why Christine is correct in her findings.
So come November make sure the Senate gets a readjustment of its deck chairs. Time for many new seats.

Have you heard the horrible way Beck talks about those who believe that Obama is hiding something very serious…and that something could very well be where he was born.  Glen calls us birthers and is constantly insulting us…yet he tells us himself that Obama’s whole life is fiction.  Well, why is Beck so harsh in denying that part of that fictional life could be a real life birth in Kenya?

BHO got a pass. The truth is irrelevant. It will come out in 75yrs (maybe). It will NEVER be undone. Get over it. Move on. He and his PuppetMasters are dangerous. You only have 6mo to go!

 Wow, finally someone rational.  I don’t of any proof that he was not born here, but the larger point is your statement about natural born.
This has been an issue in Presidential elections since Chester Arthur and the courts have consistently ruled that it is birth on American Soil that qualifies one, OR, being born to 2 American citizens overseas, or on US territorial property (i.e. military bases or diplomatic missions).

Why Glenn continues to deny Obammy is a Kenyan defies reason….The truth is, and always has been, the bastard is not eligible to be President….I really don’t care if his toadies riot in the streets, quit being afraid of the truth.  Obama is not eligible, and therefore needs to be removed from office.

So it just goes to show that the American voting public is not worried about Obama being a habitual lair  and  a political chameleon…. but it worries me a lot I think he is one of the most dangerous world leader of the 21 century and needs to be taken out of office …  

03/02/12Sheriff Joe Arapaio’s new birther charges  http://web.gbtv.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=20116941

 Christine stated that parentage was the crucial issue, not birth on US soil. Birth on US soil is the only criteria, as you correctly stated. What is not correct is you saying Christine is correct in her findings. She is wrong, because she stated that parentage was more important and that Obama was ineligible because one of his purported parents was not a citizen.

doesnt matter where his father was born if barack was born in hawaii he is a legal. However i doubt he was born here just another lie by our leaders to distract us

RoscoJones, from your comments I believe there is some confusion about the eligibility requirement of the Constitution.

It most certainly does make a “difference whether he was born in the USA or not”.

Article II, Section 1, says, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution [no longer applies], shall be eligible to the office of President….”

That limits the eligibility to “natural born” citizens: those born in the United States or its territories. A ”naturalized citizen” is a person born in another country who comes to this country, applies for and is granted citizenship.

Here’s an example: Arnold Schwartznegger, born in Austria, is a naturalized American citizen. He is eligible to be Governor of California, but would not be eligible to be President.

You may recall that early on in the 2008 campaign some Democrats considered legal action to block Mr. McCain from running for President, since he was born in a US Territory, the Canal Zone, now part of Panama. After a quick legal lesson they gave up their attempt.

Hope this helps.

I hate to say it …. but Glen Beck obviously doesn’t understand the Constitution’s requirement for Presidential qualification at all.    He is such a smart and intelligent guy on many things, but on this one thing ….. he has totally missed the boat. 

The plain truth is that Barack Obama cannot be a natural born citizen.  Heck, if this literary agent’s profile of him is correct (and I am betting that it is)….. Barack Obama IS NOT nor ever was even a citizen of the USA……    (His mom was under the age required to convey citizenship if Barack was born in a foreign country to a foreign father).  

So if the birth actually occured in Kenya (as his fraternal grandmom says) …… and as this literary agent says ……  also evident by mysteriously missing inbound customs form records for ONLY the week that Barack Obama was born (while they exist for weeks before and after that one week).

Couple this with Arpaio’s evidence of forgery on the Birth Certificate and the Selective Service card and you have not only a non citizen president but ….. very possibly high Treason, collusion, and a massive cover up.

handsoffmyhealth, Just a minor qualification to your comment, “The children born in the US of Immigrants are eligible.” Make that “legal immigrants”, though there may be argument since that is currently being debated.

The drafters of the 14th amendment had no intention of conferring citizenship on the children of illegal aliens who happened to be born in the U.S. The author of the citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob Howard of Michigan, stated expressly: “This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers.”In the 1884 case Elk v. Wilkins, the Supreme Court ruled that the 14th Amendment did not even confer citizenship on Indians — because they were subject to tribal jurisdiction, not U.S. jurisdiction.For a hundred years, that was the law. Only one case adding the caveat that children born to LEGAL permanent residents of the U.S., gainfully employed, and who were not employed by a foreign government would also be deemed citizens under the 14th Amendment. (United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 1898.)Then in 1982, Justice Brennan added footnote 22 into his 5-4 opinion in Plyler v. Doe, asserting that “no plausible distinction with respect to Fourteenth Amendment ‘jurisdiction’ can be drawn between resident aliens whose entry into the United States was lawful, and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful.”
Brennan’s authority for this was a 1912 book by Clement L. Bouve, Exclusion and Expulsion of Aliens in the United States, page 340.   

Let’s just add it all up :

Corsi denied access to Kenyan birth records of 1961, afterward they were “Sealed”
College and school records … Sealed
Passport records ….. corrupted or expunged and pilfered
Young FBI agent shot in the head in DC… case never solved (he knew too much about the passport incident  ?)
Release of birth certificate fought in court until Corsi’s book about to come out….
Ample time went by from all of the above to “fabricate” a forged Hawaiian B.C.
Release of the famous Hawaiian long form B.C by Obama (at last)
Arpaio’s investigation reveals strong signs of forgery on the B.C.
Arpaio’s investigation also reveals very strong signs of forgery on the Selective Service card
Arpaio’s team ask for inbound customs form records for the week Obama was born and for a number of weeks before and after.
They receive customs records for inbound Hawaii flights before and after but NOT for the one week that Obama was born.  Explanation –  Customs don’t know where these records are
Arpaio requests copy of microfilm of Obama’s Selective Service record…. Denied, Diverted
Selective Service just recently revised record retenttion standards that will allow the needed and requested microfilm record to be destroyed
A post office mail man who regularly delivered mail to Bill Ayers’ parents in Chicago, meets a young Barack Obama and is told he is a foreign student that they are helping with college

And now … Obama’s literary agent’s booklet declares that Obama was born in Kenya, and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.

Look at all the smoke above …. and tell me where the fire is ????/

All the above tells me is that the Birthers  are  Right …. and were Right all along.

The guy …… Obama is NOT eligible to be President and all his acts thereas have been Un Constitutional.

 The terms native and natural are used interchangeably, and they mean the same thing: born on US soil. BHO can’t be one without the other. Either he was born on US soil or wasn’t. There is no proof he wasn’t. I wish there were, but it is too late anyway. Just vote the literal bastard out.
So the BC is forged, and I have many reasons to believe it is, so what? If lies and fraud and forgery could get a President impeached, we would have impeached a lot more than Clinton.

They were grandfathered in by being citizens at the time of adoption of the constitution.

the founders used Vattelle’s definition of natural born (of 2 parent citizens) to keep anyone out of the highest office with divided loyalties, especially British loyalties…..how funny O’s father was a British citizen…you could not have spit on the constitution anymore if you tried…oh sorry, they did try and succeeded in giving the country to a british citizen (citizenship is always confered from the father)  GREAT JOB!!!!!

 Parentage has nothing to do with it. If you are born on US Soil you are a natural born citizen, no matter what, except if your parents are subject to a foreign jurisdiction, like diplomats. You are also a natural born citizen if you were born abroad to US citizens. Apparently, even foreign born adopted children are natural born citizens.
The Supreme Court affirmed the sole requirement of birth on US soil to qualify as natural born citizen (1939). Your parents do not have to be US citizens.

Refer to 1875 Minor vs. Happersett where the Supreme Court clearly defined Natural Born Citizen as having both parents US citizens.  
Exploring the common-law origins of citizenship, the court observed
that “new citizens may be born or they may be created by naturalization”
and that the Constitution “does not, in words, say who shall be
natural-born citizens.” Under the common law, according to the court,
“it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who
were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.
These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from
aliens or foreigners.”
The court observed that some authorities “include as citizens children
born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of
their parents.”

No offense…but Obama is a constitutional lawyer too…what a joke that is…natural born according to our founders is of 2 citizen parents, the problem is no one in this country will stand up for it….wonder what illegal mess of a president we will get next???

 I agree that a bogus affirmative action Harvard (not known for teaching founding principles or supporting the constitution) degree is a joke. I actually can quote the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence accurately and I have read the Federalist Papers and looked up the subsequent laws, court decisions, opinions, etc. The only requirement is birth on US soil, parentage has nothing to do with it. You are a natural born citizen eligible for presidency by virtue of birth on US soil. The Supreme Court affirmed this in 1939 among others, dating back to soon after the Constitution was  signed. The only time parentage comes into it is when the child is born abroad to US citizens.
Having both parents as US citizens ensures the definition of natural born, but does not limit the definition to only born of US citizens, as the 1939 Supreme Court decision clearly stated about a child born in the US to Swedish parents, who removed her to Sweden. The Court said she was a natural born citizen of the US who was eligible for the Presidency if when she was 21, returned to the US. The only way she wasn’t a natural born citizen eligible is if when turned 21 she renounced her US citizenship.

I have listened to Glenn for a very long time now. I watched his program from day one to the last show on Fox. I have come to trust him very much as he exposed the ones who want to bring our country down. I strongly disagree with Glenn on this. I have NEVER understood why he has not run with this story (obama’s  fake birth certificate).  Why has obama chosen to keep his records from his past under lock and key? He has alot to hide, that’s why. I do NOT believe that obama is a US citizen. It has NOT been proven to me yet. If it was proven that obama was not a citizen then he would, I hope, be forced to get out of office and hopefully be thrown in PRISON for the rest of his life. Come on Glenn, are you so sure obama is a citizen? If so, then what convinced you? Please, share it with the rest of us here so we can be persuaded to believe the way you do. I have been very loyal to you Glenn and now I would like some support from you.okay?

“The court observed that some authorities “include as citizens children
born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of
their parents.”
This was true in the US from the beginning.
Thank you for proving my point. Having both parents as US citizens ensures the definition of natural
born, but does not limit the definition to only born of US citizens, as
the 1939 Supreme Court decision Perkins v. Elg clearly stated about a child born in the
US to Swedish parents, who removed her to Sweden. The Court said she
was a natural born citizen of the US who was eligible for the Presidency
if when she was 21, returned to the US. The only way she wasn’t a
natural born citizen eligible is if when turned 21 she renounced her US
citizenship. They quoted the complete opinion (1875) regarding a German boy born on US soil, who was removed by his father (who had renounced his US naturalized citizenship) to Germany. The boy was declared a natural born citizen of the US who, upon his 21st birthday, could return to the US and if the electorate so chose, could become the President, unless at the age of 21, he renounced his natural US citizenship and accepted his acquired (through his father and the treaty between the US and Germany) german citizenship.
The courts have uniformly held that birth on US soil confers natural born citizenship (sometimes they say native born) regardless of parentage, from the founding.

Does it matter if you know who lied on the application to become President forms?
Does it matter if a President post a fictitious Birth Certificate?
Does it matter if an Author of a bio book lies about their actions?
Does it matter if a President was a drug addict-a known Marxist?
Does it matter if a poor track record is now available for vetting.
To mainstream media it does not matter…Europe 1938.    

Being in east Africa off and on since October 2008. I would remain questioning the basic “lie” or not regarding the birth place.  There is something BIG in store first day of second term (day 1 per sey’) if you know who is voted back in office. That is the buzz since Oct 2008 in east Africa. No more Lies…the real you know who jr. walks on water that day and will be all about truth. Not a good sign for Israel b t w

Could not have said it better myself Basennjimomma. This is one issue that we MUST deal with,period. Can’t believe Glenn is turning his back on this, I really can’t. It pisses me off alot. Makes my eyes bleed. Wish  that I was a really powerful person so I could have influence on this matter. Am frustrated.

Glenn I don’t understand it at all! You were so right in pointing out all the wicked plans Obama has for the US…his ‘fundamentaly transforming’ America and all that! But you dont see the biggest scam that he has pulled off on all of US? Hell, even Bill Clinton is a ‘birther’ didnt u hear that? He and Hil were going to fight him but he threatened their family {why do u think that B.O. was NOT invited to Chelsea’s wedding??} Also, they stopped trying to out him as a foreigner with the death of one of their best friends!  This is NOT a conspiracy on our part it’s one of his! The conspiracy to take over the United States!

YES!

Hate to say it but am loosing respect for Glenn. He has been somewhat of a hero to me these last few years but now he is starting to loose his credibility with me. Don’t allow this to happen, Glenn.

So which hand would we look at??  The one that has NO CREDIABLE IDENTIFICATION AT ALL!!!  And infact has FORGED MULTIPLE FEDERAL IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS… which BTW would put any of us “subjects of the state servants” in FEDERAL PRISON ASAP…
while forcing us to witness the CONSTITUTION BEING FLAGRANTLY IGNORED AND MADE IRRELEVANT not by a qualified President by mere power of PRECIDENT!!! 
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Glenn..  Where’s your evidence??  Where’s the proof Barack Hussain (Muslim name) Obama was born on this EARTH???  Now..  Where’s the evidence that this false prophet should be allowed to roam freely far into the future of our Children and GrandChildrens Lives and Freedoms???
If you continue to deny this BLATANT EVIDENCE then I have no choice but to assume you are
aiding and abedding this coup.  Some people are like sheep aren’t they?  You can tell’em what to think.  There are MANY who are VERY VERY VERY SHOCKED that a man of your background is telling us to look at “the other hand” while the water is getting hot and the frog is in the pot!!!!!!   God knows what you know.  And God knows an Islamist / Communist / Facist Plant is illegally “OCCUPYING” the seat of OUR COUNTRY and the FUTURE OF OUR FREEDOM. 
Realize aswell that calling me a “BIRTHER” IS A SAUL ALINSKY tactic!!!!  It’s offensive.  I DEMAND YOU STOP THIS NOW.   I once was one of your biggest fans.  But I also study History and know which side I’m on. 
Here’s is a persuasive article I wrote that should be sent to millions including the heads our election boards and State gov’ts:
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As currently the practice in our disillusioned country.. Election boards in each state claim that a “birth certificate” is not required to be presented before one is allowed to place their name on the ballot to qualify as a valid U.S. Natural Born Citizen canidate therein poised to pursue Presidency of the United States.

On the contrary to this obvious invitation for evil to enter our highest ranks and thereby supersede the United States Constitution which declares that a person MUST be a “natural born citizen” to be eligible for the office, we must conform our practices and requirements to adhere to the over-arching demands of our sacred constitution. In this way we cannot decline “the confirmation process” which our constitution requires and demands strict compliance in that it IS the foundation of a Just Nation of Laws.. not beholden to be dissolved for the occasion of men’s agendas and greed.

Therefore.. we as Americans are owed the service from our servant election committees that proof of the “natural born” status is being strictly enforced. This can ONLY REQUIRE NO LESS than each and every state mandating the practice of strict transparency to its sovereign citizens THE PROOF that those on the ballots are in adherence to the requirements of our faithful Constitution. To say it plainly..

The states must abide to the mandates of the Constitutional Laws of the Land. They must therefore authenticate the subjects on their ballots as sanctioned by our Constitution’s Foundational Law.

God fearing / Jesus Loving American,
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*Richard Alexander Pruitt

also want to point out that Sheriff Joe is a respectable man who started his investigation to put all the speculations to rest! He thought that BO was for real until he dug in to his background. So now the REAL BO has been exposed [and he does stink doesn't he?]. So Glenn WTF?

Glenn,  Tell me how you came to your conclusion that Obama is a natural born citizen and qualified to be our president.   Through all the smoke the his liberal supporters have thrown out, there is one thing clear.  He is all a lie.   I am convinced the story about his “Mama” being in Kenya with his Dad when she was pregnant and intending to fly to Hawaii for the birth is true.  But she waited too long and was too far along and the airline wouldn’t let her fly.  So she “had” to have the baby in Kenya.  Then Obama, even if he could be considered a “citizen” of the U.S.  didn’t make his “election” when coming of age.  In fact he chose to flit around the “globe” with visas from several other countries and also the “topper” is that he chose to use his foreign status to obtain education in the U.S.  Tracing his movements as a teen ager is almost like trying to follow the movments of the “agents” on Missing.

Obama is a liar and a fraud, no question, and the bc is questionable at best and probably forged. But that does not prove he was not born in the US. I wish it did, but it is not a practical issue to try to force; it is too late. In addition, your contentions are misplaced and inaccurate regarding citizenship.

 If Obama Sr was Obama II’s father (and there is a lot of doubt about that) he was a British citizen only when he entered the US. When he returned to Kenya (he was kicked out for bad behavior) Kenya was not a British colony any more, so he wasn’t British anymore. When he came back to the US when Barry Soetero was approx 10 yrs old, to reverse the adoption by Lolo Soetoro,  he was not British and could not “confer” British citizenship or even Kenyan.
Citizenship is not always conferred from the father. In the US from at least 1804, the courts and legal textbooks have always held that birth on US soil confers natural born or native born citizenship with all eligibility thereto, including the Presidency, explicitly. Once the US natural born child reaches majority (21 in 1939) he may have dual citizenship, one natural, one acquired citizenship through his parentage, but he/she is a US natural born citizen, eligible by birthright  to all  rights of natural born citizenship, including the Presidency.

I think the real clincher is how hard they have fought to kill the birth certificate issue.  If he is “legit” he should have nothing to hide and be willing to come clean.

Sorry Handsoff-etc  Claiming to be a Constitution Expert, does not make you correct.  Obama’s father was NOT a U.S. Citizen – he was a British Citizen, this fact alone disqualifies Obama to hold the Office of President of the U.S. You are correct in that the U.S.Supreme Ct. has visited citizenship cases,  on this particular issue -  both parents must be bonified U.S. Citizens for their off-spring to be eligible for POTUS.  The Dems vetted Cane – no one has vetted B. Obama. WHY?

Handsoffmyhealth,
Really, so is what you are trying to tell us is any illegal alien can pop into the United States, have a baby, then that child is qualified when it becomes of age and years living in the USA to be President?

One bit of information I found was this.

The answer lies with none other than Thomas Jefferson, who penned “Virginia’s Citizenship statue” in 1779, “Be it enacted by the General Assembly, that all white persons born within the territory of this commonwealth and all who have resided therein two years next before the passing of this act, and all who shall hereafter migrate into the same; and shall before any court of record give satisfactory proof by their own oath or affirmation, that they intend to reside therein, and moreover shall give assurance of fidelity to the commonwealth; and all infants wheresoever born, whose father, if living, or otherwise, whose mother was, a citizen at the time of their birth, or who migrate hither, their father, if living, or otherwise their mother becoming a citizen, or who migrate hither without father or mother, shall be deemed citizens of this commonwealth, until they relinquish that character in manner as herein after expressed: And all others not being citizens of any the United States of America, shall be deemed aliens.” As can be seen Jefferson is equating citizenship of the child to that of the parents, and not the land.

I DON’T BELIEVE THAT GLENN DOESN’T BELIEVE THAT OBAMA WAS BORN IN KENYA….AND NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. THAT’S EASY TO SEE WHEN THE HOSPITAL IN HAWAII WASN’T AROUND WHEN HE WAS BORN.  EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD HE LIES ABOUT, AND I  BELIEVE THAT USING THE U.S. AS THE PLACE HE WAS BORN WAS HIS ONLY WAY TO GET AS FAR AS HE HAS TODAY. HE’S PULLED SO MANY LIES AND BROKEN SO MANY RULES, THAT NO ONE IS WILLING TO IMPEACH HIM, BECAUSE THEY ARE EITHER PAID OFF OR SCARED TO DEATH. HE’S A BLACK, GAY PRESIDENT WHO ISN’T A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. ISN’T THAT SAD. 

Although it PAINS us to even consider the fact we lose a chance of impeaching the socialist from the White House… facts are facts and we’ve done a lot of study into this issue, as have many of you & others.

“HandsOffMyHealth”, an Esquire, respectfully, is correct.
But there is one major issue that few, if any, have actually considered.
Not only was his mother a citizen… but in a scenario (real or hypothetical)… let’s just say Mom & Pops were visiting Kenya, as the long lived reports go.
And let’s agree to allow leeway, that IF Mom intended to fly back to the states to have said child… but the airlines &/or physicians would not allow her to.
Then the unplanned event occurs on unintended land outside USA – as a visitor, but still a USA citizen… he would still be born a citizen of USA.

The COVER-UP in the attempt to bury whatever facts/issues there may be — could still well be true. Many factors come to mind – but faking a Birth Certificate, like the one first posted on http://www.Obama.com and abruptly removed after it became public knowledge… stands out the most.  Could that be illegal?  And what would be the purpose? Which, in turn… sends us back to the issue at hand.  Why cover-up citizenship if one is really a citizen? Or is he really? 
UGH LOL  SO CONFUSING!!! LOL

Mitt Romey’s father was born in Mexico

I can’t believe you are so dismissing of this! He is a liar and was never eligible to even be elected our president. He refuses to  be vetted in this by covering up everything with millions in lawyer fees, fraudulent documents and you think it is just some ego trip…well his ego is too big for America! We need to make him accountable along with all the people who are supposed to make sure candidates are eligible BEFORE they run for office! And to allow him to run again without clearing this up is just as absurd as your explanation! Gee Glenn, I thought you were smarter than this. Maybe they did pay you off to help explain all the evidence away. Maybe too many people are listening to you and trusting what you say!!! I am personally disappointed in your “talk”!

He must have really struck nerve….are you slobbering mad yet?  Such hatred.  But you do need to hear the truth, even if it hurts.  You’re really angry at yourself, which you should be.  But you can be cured if you just stop drinking all that red kool-ade.  It’s making you turn red.

 I think Obama is a fraud and a liar, and incompetent and that the bc is a forgery. That said, I don’t think there is any proof that he wasn’t born here. I wish there was. Yes there are a lot of questions about his history and life and what is known for sure doesn’t add up, but I have seen a lot of questionable assertions by the posters here and you are no exception. I want to point out one- you said he gave up his law license. I don’t think he ever had one. Yes, he went to Harvard law school, but graduating does not confer a license. You can only get a license by passing the bar in each state in which you take the bar exam and want to practice in. I don’t think he could ever pass the bar legitimatly, nor do I think he ever practiced law, so no need to pass any bar. I think he we nt into teaching the lies he was fed by the corrupt and not too bright socialists/progressives at Harvard, then community organizing. It was Bill Clinton that was disbarred for ethics violations in perjuring himself in court when called to testify in the Paula Jones case. Talk about trashing the constitution…..but then Woodrow Wilson did, so did FDR, maybe Nixon, the Supreme Court in many bad liberal decisions, not the least of which is the Dred Scott case.
My point is,  BHO may be the worst President ever, or just the most recent worst but the bc and his birthplace pale in comparison to his policies and mistakes, which is where we should be concentrating, not on issues that are losers and make all his opponents look irrational and foolish, like law license that he may never have had, much less given up. Bill Ayres writing his book, and Jeremiah Wright are far more salient issues than that or even a forged bc. Clinton got away with public perjury and suffered nothing that was useful to him. You really think this unprovable birther issue is a winner?

What they currently do?  Obama continues to lie about his past.  Glenn has at least admitted his past failings and moved on.  Obama is a fraud that continues.  That is the truth.

 I read this submitted and signed by Obama and Clinton, they seemed to agree on the need for both parents being citizens, note the plural below, and born on US soil.

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.
110th CONGRESS
2d Session
S. RES. 511
RESOLUTION
Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

How are his commnets racist?  Ah, I remember, anyone who disagrees with a liberal is a racist.   Take off your blinders and read what you post, you may see how foolish you sound.  Your ignorance is invincible.

The vast wadi that occupies the space between his ears.  Echo,echo,echo.

F’n idiots would be a step up for these left-wing lapdogs.

A dog barks the fiercest when it is trapped in a corner. lol

Degree in Constitutional law, I’m impressed, I have a degree
in Male Bovine Excrement and have 37 years of experience detecting Male Bovine
Excrement, and guess what I smell.

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939) does not address “Natural
Born Citizen”, it discusses “Naturalized” citizenship, not the same thing.

To be a “Natural Born Citizen” the parents must be citizens
at the time of the child’s birth.

There have been discussions saying that only the father
needs to be a citizen, but the only thing I have found allowing just the mothers
citizenship to meet the criteria is if the father is unknown, or deceased at the time of the child’s birth.

Yes it is among other problems that have been building for awhile. Woodrow Wilson segregated the White house(anti-black) and denigrated the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. FDR did far worse, with the DofI and the Const, with SS and his new bill of rights and expansion of the administrative state. Johnson with his war on poverty which created more poverty, the Civil rights bill, which hurt more than it helped and wouldn’t have been necessary if Wilson had not mounted a successful campaign against blacks, compounded by FDR. Carter putting in place the Community Development which set the stage for the housing bubble, that Clinton created by putting that program on steroids and deregulating the banks and forcing banks to lend to people they knew couldn’t pay, so Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were tapped to buy all those bad mortgages. Bush failed or refused to recognize the problem building, so focused on security and Osama.
BHO, whether legitimate or not, natural born or not, is not the main issue. We have to take back the country and restore original constitutional principles. The Presidency and the government in general was usurped a long time ago, when the Constitution was deemed irrelevant by the progressives (Dewey, Sanger, Wilson, FDR). The issue of his birth is irrelevant. Getting him, and the progressives out of office is all that matters. Do it rationally and practically. Impeaching Clinton backfired and distracted. Let us not err again, by playing into the spinmasters hands and looking irrational and foolish. Concentrate on the policies, mistakes, overspending and socialist/progressive associations. The forgery will take care of itself.

 According to W. Wilson, Dewey, Sanger, FDR, Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, et al the Constitution is irrelevant, passe. It has been trashed and circumvented by the bureaucratic state put on steriods by BHO. Whether or not he is a natural born citizen, the damage has been done. All we can do now is vote him and his cronies out of office. Harping on his citizenship status is interfering with taking back the country and restoring Constitutional principles and eliminating the bigger bars to liberty-the Fed, the over regulation, the Czars, the packing of the Courts with progressives, etc.
How do we win the hearts and minds of those who have been gaslighted by BHO supporters into dependency and government savior mentality? How do we win votes and get a Congress that will repeal laws rather than pass bogus protection bills, like Obamacare and CAFCO and the Food Safety Act and harmonization with Codex and union protectionism?
I submit it is not the birther issue as legitimate as it is. The problem is far bigger than that. It is his philosophies, his associations, the dangerous progressives he has put in office, his influences and his muslim support that are more important than where he might have been born. Vote the literal bastard out because he is incompetent and dangerous. He would be this way regardless of where he was born.

One way to end this birther business is to match the President’s footprint with the footprint on the purported Kenyan hospital birth certificate.  There is enough reasonable doubt to require this.  :You can’t alter a footprint and it would settle the question once and for all.

Most likely Glen doesn’t want us to dwell on this stupid issue because it takes away from Obama’s real failures…trying to prove he is not a citizen is obviously too hard so why bother? Instead let’s concentrate on his policies that are ruining our country then on this. The Obama administration loves it when people are focusing on this issue. Glen is the real deal..and can recognize bull crap when he sees it…but is smart enough to discern these tactics of having us seem like loons in this situation..

 Clinton got away with perjury while President. Only got disbarred but he wasn’t using his license anyway and he makes millions each year and is respected and he lied, committed fraud, created the housing bubble, deregulated banks, among many nefarious acts, including many sexual sins, while President…… So BHO is a more blatant socialist, muslim supporting, constitution shredding incompetent. What is new?
BTW, nobody seems to be talking about the woman close to Hillary, who, while a “natural born citizen” was raised by radical Arab parents in Saudi Arabia since age 2 and who suddenly appeared in the US as an adult, who makes speeches on behalf of our Sec of State, and has extravagant means but reported income nowhere near her assets and was married off to that idiot Weiner, a lapsed Jew and disgraced congressman. She is eligible to be President and may be in a position to do damage. There is a lot wrong in this administration. Whether born here or not, the damage is done. Need to get him out. But how do we get the “natural born” radical raised Saudi out? Is she a plant also? I submit that whether or not BHO was born in the US, he would be just as incompetent and dangerous wherever he was born. It is his associations, his mother and grandparents, and communist mentors and terrorist friends and criminal supporters that made him this way.

Male Bovine Excrement, again.  Next time you do the research, read the documents with your eyes open. 

Born on US soil to alien parents grants citizenship via rule of law.
Born on US soil to US Citizen parents, creates citizenship naturally, “Natural Born Citizen”

It’s not that confusing, unless you are trying to confuse things.

I don’t disagree with you..but clearly it is a losing battle. Time to focus on November..

 Did something change? When I was a military dependent, my father had many men under his command that were not US citizens. They were German citizens, residing in the US, joined the Army as enlisted men, retaining their German citizenship. They were drafted.
You don’t have to provide proof of citizenship to register to vote or to vote. There were literally thousands of votes cast in one precinct alone in California that got that Loretta Sanchez a party hack if ever there was one, elected the first time and they were all Hispanic, with phony addresses listed. I know, I was there and saw and complained that the addresses were nonexistent. I was ignored. I did not have to prove anything to register or to vote, though now I have to show a utility bill with my name on it to register at an address, but that is all.
I even got a passport with a photostat of my birth certificate.

Handsoffmyhealth, as to your reply to MitchellC
You need to go back and reread your reference (see below) there was NO reference to “natural born” citizen in that US Supreme Court finding.
It was only about her “Citizenship” then the loss of that and her attempts to regain that Citizenship.
Also note, naturalized and natural born are two different things, naturalized is mentioned below.
It’s too late for coffee G’nite all.

U.S. Supreme Court
Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)
Perkins v. Elg

No. 454
Argued February 3, 1939
Decided May 29, 1939*
307 U.S. 325
CERTIORARI TO THE COURT OF APPEALS

FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

Syllabus

1. A child born here of alien parentage becomes a citizen of the United States. P. 307 U. S. 328.

2. As municipal law determines how citizenship may be acquired, the same person may possess a dual nationality. P. 307 U. S. 329.

3. A citizen by birth retains his United States citizenship unless
deprived of it through the operation of a treaty or congressional
enactment or by his voluntary action in conformity with applicable legal
principles. P. 307 U. S. 329.

4. It has long been a recognized principle in this country that, if a
child born here is taken during minority to the country of his parents’
origin, where his parents resume their former allegiance, he does not
thereby lose his citizenship in the United States provided that, on
attaining majority, he elects to retain that citizenship and to return
to the United States to assume its duties. P. 307 U. S. 329.

Page 307 U. S. 327
MR. CHIEF JUSTICE HUGHES delivered the opinion of the Court.
The question is whether the plaintiff, Marie Elizabeth Elg. who was
born in the United States of Swedish parents then naturalized here, has
lost her citizenship and is subject to deportation because of her
removal during minority to Sweden, it appearing that her parents resumed
their citizenship in that country but that she returned here on
attaining majority with intention to remain and to maintain her
citizenship in the United States.
Miss Elg was born in Brooklyn, New York, on October 2, 1907. Her
parents, who were natives of Sweden, emigrated to the United States
sometime prior to 1906, and her father was naturalized here in that
year. In 1911, her mother took her to Sweden, where she continued to
reside until September 7, 1929. Her father went to Sweden in 1922, and
has not since returned to the United States. In November, 1934, he made
a statement before an American consul in Sweden that he had voluntarily
expatriated himself for the reason that he did not desire to retain the
status of an American citizen and wished to preserve his allegiance to
Sweden.

Also the other case you mentioned the Father was Naturalized, they didn’t mention mother leaving US with father and son so most likely was an American mother both then considered citizens PRIOR to sons birth. Therfore, yes, the son would be a natural born Citizen.
A Very different case than the first one Perkins vs Elg

Attorney General Edwards Pierrepont in his letter of advice to the Secretary of State Hamilton Fish, in Steinkauler’s Case, 15 Op.Atty.Gen. 15. The facts were these: one Steinkauler, a Prussian subject by birth, emigrated to the United States in 1848, was naturalized in 1854, and in the following year had a son who was born in St. Louis. Four years later, Steinkauler returned to Germany, taking this child, and became domiciled at Weisbaden, where they continuously resided. When the son reached the age of twenty years, the German Government called upon him to report for military duty, and his father then invoked the intervention of the American Legation on the ground that his son was a native citizen of the United States. To an inquiry by our Minister, the father declined to give an assurance that the son would return to this country within a reasonable time. On reviewing the pertinent points in the case, including the Naturalization Treaty of 1868 with North Germany, 15 Stat. 615, the Attorney General reached the following conclusion:

“Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen.

You are correct on this as the Supreme Court rulings have specifically said a “Natural Born Citizen” must have a mother & father who are citizens at the time of birth.  But it DOES matter where he was born and it does matter that he had citizenship in Indonesia where they do not allow dual.  You have to give up a former citizenship to become citizen there.  There are no records of him revoking that one and becoming a U.S. citizen.  Very important issue!!!   On so many counts he is a fraud.

The ass was probably born in Kenya, but what does it matter now? I think the sad issue is that more background checks are done on border patrol officers than on our elected officials, including those seeking our highest office. Why is that? We may have elected a terrorist. Hopefully we dodged one this time, but seeing how easy it is to get any moron in to government positions should be a serious security issue. Just a thought.

 The only requirement is that you be born in the US. There are many supreme court cases establishing this (one in 1939) as well as legal textbooks, laws, etc. Parentage does not matter, except when the parents are foreign diplomats (or otherwise subject to foreign jurisdiction) then no natural born citizenship or 2 US citizens have a child born overseas, then natural born citizenship.
Rubio is eligible. So, unfortunately, are those radical Muslims who were born here, but raised in arab countries as radical muslims, who have returned as adults and natural born citizens to the US, with no obvious commitment to or training as US citizens. One of them is attached at the hip to our secretary of state, though I don’t know if the person is actually a Muslim and/or anti-american.
So what’s the difference between a natural born citizen that can prove it and was raised NOT a US citizen, and possibly a radical Muslim high up in our government and BHO maybe a natural born citizen, maybe not, and was provably raised anti-american and pro muslim pro socialist/communist and associates with anti americans and is President? We have a problem either way.

 Well THAT’S a great idea Barbie!! First time I’ve heard it brought up too. BUT…. how much you want to bet there IS no ‘footprint’ TO check? Hmm….. wonder how he explain THAT one away…

That case is not definitive or seminal. There are many references, textbooks, letters, opinions and Supreme Court cases from 1804 on, including one in 1875 and the 1939 Perkins v Elg that state definitively that only birth on US soil confers natural born citizenship. Parentage does not matter. It may confer an acquired citizenship, but that does not strip the child born in the US of natural born citizenship, unless at the age of majority, the natural born citizen renounces his/her birthright. Otherwise, the natural born citizen is entitled to all the rights and privileges of natural born citizenship, including eligibility to become President. It is well established in US law and court precedent that birth on US soil constitutes natural born citizenship and the eligibility, regardless of parentage.

People who buy into what Glen believes can try and explain away his apparent inability to ‘see’ the (VERY LIKELY) truth…that truth being that there likely IS no ‘legal’ Hawaiian birth cert. and never was (I say ‘likely’ simply because as of yet it hasn’t been legally proven). But I see a man, a highly INTELLIGENT man who is for what ever reason seemingly INCAPABLE of taking his blinders off and looking straight on at the issue.

You DO NOT spend approx. TWO MILLION dollars in order to keep nearly ALL of your pertinent information from nearly all of your adult life a SECRET … NOT unless there’s something REALLY illegal to hide! You DON’T put a poorly crafted FAKE birth certificate online IF you have the REAL ONE that would put the entire debate to rest! You DON’T use a SS card from a state you’ve NEVER LIVED IN. You don’t do (insert YOUR ‘don’t do’ here) if you are telling the truth and are who you say you are. IF by some chance Obama was born in the states then PROVE IT by certifiable, UNDENIABLE, irrefutable certification! What’s the hold up??

Care to explain THAT little over sight Glen?

 Rubio is eligible. It is well established in the courts, in law, in history that natural born citizen means one born in the US soil unless parents are subject to foreign jurisdiction, such as diplomats or both parents are US citizens and the child born on foreign soil is natural born citizen. see 1939 SC perkins v elg for one of many. There were several on Chinese born in US whose parents were not citizens (could not be per law) but the child was natural born citizen, eligible for Presidency by virtue of birth on US soil.

 If Obama was born on the white house steps he would be by law, by precedent, by the Constitution, a natural born citizen. Birth on US soil is only requirement unless both parents were subject to foreign jurisdiction, such as diplomats. see 1939 SC perkins v elg for one of many court cases establishing this. There were several on
Chinese born in US whose parents were not citizens (could not be per
law) but the child was natural born citizen, eligible for Presidency by
virtue of birth on US soil.

 You are confusing things. see 1939 SC Perkins v Elg one of many court
cases establishing that birth on US soil confers natural born
citizenship and eligibility for President. It is well established in US
law, the textbooks and SC decisions that birth alone confers natural
born citizenship (except for foreign diplomats)  The parents citizenship
status doesn’t matter.
Actually the court did refer to natural born and eligibility, when they quoted almost verbatim a 1875 opinion by a sec of state  a similar case involving the same facts that birth alone confers natural born citizenship and eligibility. There were several other cases later regarding Chinese children born in the US and the decision was that they were natural born citizens eligible for presidency even though their parents were not citizens.

 Actually the court did refer to natural born and eligibility, when they
quoted almost verbatim a 1875 opinion by a sec of state  a similar case
involving the same facts that birth alone confers natural born
citizenship and eligibility. There were several other cases later
regarding Chinese children born in the US and the decision was that they
were natural born citizens eligible for presidency even though their
parents were not citizens.

Native born != natural born.  And no, an opinion of the 1939 cannot change the Constitutional meaning of natural born citizen.  Only an Amendment can do that.  Our law was meant to protect the integrity of the office…look what happens when that is usurped.

I believe Beck knows fully well about Obama’s ineligibility.  Yet he mocks anything & everything related to the subject.  Not only is Beck a hypocrite to all the principles he purports, but is actually adding and abetting the destruction of our country and the rule of law.  IMO, the only thing that could influence Beck’s actions is that he and his family are living under severe threat.

Beck’s has once again added evidence that he is a fat dumb smuck exploiting the conservative movement for his own personal financial gain. The evidence that Hussein is not eligible for president is overwhelming and goers far beyond his own admissions he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.  Anyone here who takes Beck advice on anything at all must now be aware it is colored and twisted as any Marxists, Beck is a fellow-traveler and Quisling that must be outed at every opportunity.

Sorrry Glenn, it’s you that’s missing the point. IF Barack Hussein Obama is NOT a “natural born citizen” he’s NOT eligible to hold the office of the POTUS. IF Obama does not have a legitimate birth cerificate PROVING he’s a citizen of the USA, he has no right to occupy the Oval Office.

ALL of the other negative things regarding Obama are glued to his eligibility or ineligibility to be the POTUS. You of all people SHOULD see the importance of this controversy and investigate on your own. Why are you so opposed to the so called “birthers?”You have tremendous investigative skills, so use them to put a stop to the eligibility or ineligibility once and for all.

Failure to invetigate the truth of Obama’s birth is a great travesty of justice and all who do not think it’s an IMPORTANT issue are NOT AMERICAN PATRIOTS. When I retired at the age of 65 I had to produce MY birth certificate as “proof of age” before receiving my SS benefits. Obama doesn’t have to show his birth certificate as proof of his eligibility to be the POTUS, come on! Talk about DOUBLE STANDARDS!

I’ve usually thought Glen is rather intelligent and very astute – didn’t miss a thing.  But alas, I now find he is not very bright at all and he is blind as a bat!!   Refuses to see what is right in front of him and has been proven in several different ways!  Who is he trying to impress???  Surely not us.  I stopped watching his TV show for this reason and only read his radio info when there is a headline that gets my attention – not sure I’ll even do that now!  Rediculous!!!  

You taught consitutional law? So what? So did Obama. The Framers used the Natural Born Citizen requirement to insulate America from foreign influence. If all that is required to be recognized as a NBC is birth on US soil, then Anwar al-Alawki would have been recognized as a NBC. If you think that is what the Founders had in mind, you need remedial education.

handsofmyhealth, you don’t seem to understand that Obama has a Kenyan passport that allowed him travel to Afghanistan back when he was 18. That’s on record. You can’t have a passport from Kenya without being a citizen there, and you cannot have citizenship there and in the U.S. and be traveling on a Kenyan Passport. Not to mention, when you look up Obama’s social security number in the SSI system, it comes up as a fraudulent number. You really need to do your research on this. You may know Constitutional law, but you did not study ALL of the court cases. Just recently, in Atlanta, Georgia, Obama lost a court case against the citizens who brought many charges against him, one of which was that he was not a natural born citizen because his father was not a citizen at the time. The citizens won on that count, as well as all of the others. Obama not only refused to attend the court hearing, he also made threats to the judge before the hearing about dropping it. The case referred to happened January 26th this year. Look it up.

Glenn refuses Obama’s own words. In 2006 OBAMA STATED as written by the Chicago Sun Times Reporter Lynn Sweet

By Lynn Sweet on September 3, 2006 8:40 AM |N’DJAMENA, Chad–Sen. Barack Obama departed this capital city Sunday morning, en route on an Army military aircraft to Frankfort, Germany to catch a commercial flight back to the United States.He leaves wtih a “great urgency” to pressure the U.S. and other players to force Sudan to accept a United Nations peackeeping force in the Darfur region. Obama’s last stop was at a refugee camp near the Chad-Sudan border where some 15,333 people who fled Janjaweed violence live. Of those he talked to, they told him almost to a person they want to return-but cannot unless there are UN troops there to guarantee their safety.After this major Africa swing–he left Washington on Aug. 18–the Illinois Democrat revs up a heavy political schedule in advance of the November elections, stumping in Iowa on Sept. 17, a stop in the early presidential caucus state that fuels speculation about whether the White House is in his future.Obama launches his national book tour for his second book Oct. 17 in Chicago.He reflected on his trip at the back of a plane on Saturday, talking above the roar of the engines to the three print reporters who have been covering his trip.Obama’s next big international journey will be in 2007 –he’s looking at China, India and Indonesia, “where ironicall I actually have more of a childhood than I do in Kenya.”http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2006/09/obama_africa_lessons_look_ahea.html Glenn is everyone a liar or is Obama the liar. Obama’s wife has stated that he is KENYAN, that his home country is Kenya. Give it up Glenn, your proving that your the south end of a north bound donkey. 

“Perkins vs Elg ” was a case on “native born citizenship” (born on US soil) and related ‘repatriation never “natural born citizenship”. The only mention of “natural born citizen” was a referral to a statement by a lower court (Federal Court of Appeals, Dist. of Columbia) and natural born citizenship was ‘intermingled’ with native born citizenship which has been done on multiple occasions, although distinctly different. Native born citizens (born on US soil) are not necessarily “natural born citizens” (soil and citizen parentage) and that is the crux of the problem. The Supreme Court did not in the above case assert “natural born citizenship” status to Ms. Elg but rather her initial ‘native born citizenship’ was affirmed for being born on US soil.
Thank you for the courtesy of a response as I had not expected one.

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That case is not definitive or seminal. There are many references, textbooks, letters, opinions and Supreme Court cases from 1804 on, including one in 1875 and the 1939 Perkins v Elg that state definitively that only birth on US soil confers natural born citizenship. Parentage does not matter. It
may confer an acquired citizenship, but that does not strip the child born
in the US of natural born citizenship, unless at the age of majority, the
natural born citizen renounces his/her birthright. Otherwise, the natural
born citizen is entitled to all the rights and privileges of natural born
citizenship, including eligibility to become President. It is well established
in US law and court precedent that birth on US soil constitutes natural
born citizenship and the eligibility, regardless of parentage.

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My Lord Glenn, you are really pathetic and have really shown your true colors since Arpaio’s March 1st press conference. There is not a doubt in my mind that you are no different than anybody else in the MSM. Sure, you may cover a couple different topics to sucker new people into buying subscriptions, but you really have no reverence for the Constitution. Well, you show a reverence for it when you need to sell a book or make money, my bad.

You honestly expect us to believe that that with the level in which you research to discover Obama’s links to NWO elitists and communists, that you still believe there is no merit to Obama’s ineligibility. Give me a break. There is literally more evidence towards this guy being an Indonesian citizen with the legal name Barry Soetoro than him being an American citizen with the legal name Barack Obama.

If you were threatened, then sitting there and taking it is just going to make this situation even worse. If you showed some backbone and attacked this issue, because you do know he’s ineligible(no matter what you say), there are a whole lot of us who would take time to protect your family if you asked for help. 

Please people, don’t waste your money on this guy, he’s using you. You can get more accurate info listening to people like Andrea Shea King on blogtalkradio. Oh the irony, Beck “exposing” Obama’s use of the Alinsky tactics, while he does the same thing. This guy, Obama, Levin, Boehner and the rest of them are no different, they are all enemies of the Constitution.

I subscribed for a few months to GBTV until he began attacking Article II supporters. This guy is using people for financial gain. As little as it costs for a subscription, it’s a complete waste of money. He informs people of what Obama allows him to. He’s part of the same MSM that is an arm of the White House.

Too hard? There is not one document that proves he’s an Article II natural born citizen, much more a citizen of this nation. There is mountains and mountains of evidence proving this guy is not a citizen, Arpaio couldn’t even find one document nationwide after 6 months. If you think Beck has any integrity or truly gives a crap if Obama stays in office, you’re very naive. 

Nah, I think he understands Article II, he just doesn’t care. If he truly did, he’d be all over this story. This is the silver bullet that would remove Obama very quickly. Beck is just another in a long line of traitors to our Constitution that are complicit in this cover-up.

Glenn has his own hidden agenda and it seems like a number of people are seeing right through Glenn’s game. 

The ONLY reason Glenn is even opening his mouth is to promote Romney. Both are Mormons. 

Beck has a hidden agenda. Beck is a ‘religious’ person and his ‘faith’ has no allegiance to this country. That is why Beck stated ‘Your going to lose ‘YOUR’ country over a Birth Certificate’. Glenn is just a guilty as those that failed to do their job when this was brought out, prior to the last election. Glenn ridiculed and ignored it. 

Beck is a ‘higher’ thinker and wants to be GOD of his own planet, like any good Mormon. 
Just think of it, Romney the Mormon, head of the Free World, is that not God-like status, and is that not the Anti-Christ?

You’re crazy if you think Obama’s going to “lose” in November. I have no doubt in my mind that Romney, as much as I despise him, or Paul would wipe the floor in a clean, fair election. But, the voting fraud this year will make 2008 look minuscule. You honestly think the powers that got him on the 2008 ballot and kept him in office despite him being ineligible, and got dozens of lawsuits dismissed without evidence even being presented are going to watch Obama “lose”? Not going to happen. The only way he will not be back in the WH next year is if he’s removed from the ballot. Do a ballot challenge in your state.

Nope, a natural born citizen is and has always been a child born on US soil to citizen parents. There is not one document or SCOTUS case that supports your premise. But, I’m sure you know that.

Give me a break “Bill”, when you people quit spreading racism, it will disappear. I’ve been all over the world and have never once seen bigger racists than arab muslims or American liberals. Why you people do not care that the guy in the Oval Office is ineligible absolutely blows my mind.

If there’s some idiots that want to destroy their homes and community, let him. Justice cannot be stalled out of fear of other crimes.

One thing’s for sure, Beck uses Alinsky tactics as well as anybody in Obama’s inner circle.

You nailed it Rob, there is no difference between Beck and the rest of them. He covers different material to make profit off of different people, but make no mistake, he and Obama are on the same team.

Maybe, either way, it’s laughable when O’Reilly and Beck claim to revere the Constitution. I can’t imagine these people hate the military so much as to have a platform to ensure they have a legit CIC.

Well said

Dude you still have no idea what you are talking about. There is a difference between natural-born, native, and naturalized. Even the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services(USCIS) acknowledges it:

“The
effect of naturalization under the above statutes was not to erase the previous
period of alienage, but to restore the person to the status if naturalized,
native, or natural-born citizen, as determined by her status prior to loss.” Interpretation 324.2(b)

http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-45077/0-0-0-48575.html

Maybe, just maybe, instead of holding grand rallies and lemonade stand things and launching clothing lines that few people actually buy every year to puff up his ego, Glenn should devote some of that energy to taking a SERIOUS look at this issue, instead of the, what, one month like 2 years ago he claimed Stu (or was it Pat? they’re as interchangeable as Curly and Shemp) looked at it, back before more information had come out. 

If everything turns out to be true — that Obama and the DNC foisted a massive fraud upon us — then it is time the government was taken down.  This IS 1791, not a crappy sport coat with a haughty emblem on it.  Arrests all around, from Obama down to the last “Czar” and spilling over to the Cabinet, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc. Tossing out every law and executive order the Pretender-in-Chief signed with his left hand. (It’d be funny if someone came forth to say he deliberately trained himself to write left-handed, but I digress.) The dismissal of Kagan and the “Wise Latina”, and the nullification of every vote they cast.  The end of “Obamacare”.  No more having to see the disgraceful sight of homosexual United States soldiers, etc, prancing around openly. No more “Reset Button”.  No more anti-American drilling moratoriums. Everything wrong that happened since that terrible day in January, 2009 wiped out in one fell swoop. (Maybe we could even send in divers to recover whatever remains of bin Laden at the bottom of the drink, just to prove it was him and not some flunky they shot and disposed of….oh, you don’t think Obama, a guy who could have been born on the frickin’ MOON for all the proof he offers, would do that?????)

It’s not only that he dismisses Article II supporters, it’s the ridicule afterwards. Do you honestly think Glenn and Rush would give a crap about the Constitution if they weren’t making money off of it? I doubt it. 

I admire people like John Dummet, Van Irions, Sam Sewell, Orly Taitz, Dean Haskins, and Larry Clayman who are risking their lives by taking this issue to court for the last 4 years. I’m over in Afghanistan and did a ballot challeng in my home state all the while fulfilling my Oath in the Army.
Beck and the rest of them are no different than Obama when it comes down to it, in fact I don’t believe for a second Beck wants Obama out of office. 

Well said Jim, anybody that would take a couple hours and studying the history and purpose of NBC would come to the same conclusion. Heck, if they took a few hours and studied natural law, there would be no doubt what it means. We’re seeing first hand the fruits of ignoring the wisdom of the founding fathers.

That’s exactly what it is. Nobody truly believes that the definition of NBC mysteriously changed in 2008 to be the equivalent of a 14th Amend citizen.

Dude drop the subscription like some of us have. This guy’s all about money, the info he puts out can be found elsewhere. There are a ton of independent media shows on blogtalkradio like Mark Gillar and Andrea Shea King that cover everything this establishment hack won’t touch.

Impeachment is for legit Presidents

Wanda amen. Everybody needs to cancel their GBTV and donate the money to Arpaio. I’ve done my part, wish I could send more. He’s the only elected official in America that has fulfilled his oath of office.

I’ve kept quiet on the issue, but it always amazed me that Glenn, who prides himself on his research skills, would join a cult. Romney was born into it, so that’s his excuse.  What I’ve learned of Mormonism is that it has common roots with Scientology and Islam:  they all began with one man scribbling down science-fiction fantasies as revealed by “angels” or whatever, in direct violation of the warnings the Apostles themselves gave.  Actually, at least some of their beliefs were lifted from other sources, probably to give a “ring of truth” to them. (I’ve read that Mohammed even referred to the Jewish Talmud!)  The founder of Scientology told fellow writers that the best way to make a living was to start your own religion, and this was several years before he did just that. Joseph Smith claimed his was a restoration of first century Christianity, but kept Sunday, Christmas, Easter, etc, all of which came from the Catholic Church, which he denounced,  well after the Apostles had died. The story of how the  Catholic Church got its beliefs from paganism and attributed them to Jesus is well-known, at least to those of us who wound up leaving it, but not Glenn I guess. Yep, I’ve done my own homework!

It’s a freakin internet show! Who cares. It’s a matter of whether he reveres the Constitution or not. I’m leaning towards him being an arm of the WH lately.

You don’t even believe that, why do you guys keep up this charade? You’re starting to look ridiculous now.

I’ve been listening to Jones for about a decade. I remember people calling him crazy when he was reporting stuff that was happening in clear sight, but on things people didn’t want to believe could happen in the United States. People aren’t calling him crazy anymore. Somebody else you might like is Andrea Shea King, Mark Gillar, and Conservative Primetime on blogtalkradio.

Not to mention, Arpaio’s investigation proved the HI newspapers ran foreign births in the announcements.

Over my dead body…..and that is what it may take!

Henry, never looked at it from that angle, but your theory makes alot of sense. Other than Michael Savage and Alex Jones, I just don’t think there is anybody in the MSM or semi-MSM that have a backbone and truly care about where this nation goes any longer.  I have little doubt in my mind anymore than Beck and the administration, in some fashion, are in cahoots. They allow him to expose a few things that nobody can legally do anything about or that Congress will not pay mind to. But in the case of his ineligibility/fraudulent documents, these are things that would rile most Americans up if they knew the real truth. 

I wasted a few bucks on GBTV, but glad I didn’t stick with it. I knew he was a phony when he started ridiculing Article II supporters.

Here are 6 African Newspaper articles calling Obama “Kenyan-Born”
Notice the first article was from Sunday, June 27, “2004”
Historical News Articles and FactCheck Agree: Obama is “Kenyan-born” Posted on October 18th, 2009 by David-Crockett
Sunday, June 27, “2004”
Kenya Sunday Standard headline-”Kenyan-born” Obama all set for US Senate http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born04.htm
The
Nigerian Observer-Americans will today go to the polls to elect their
next President with Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama
largely favoured to win. The “Kenyan-born” Senator will…” http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born01.htm
USAfrica — “Kenyan-born” OBAMA makes history…wins presidential nomination of U. S. Democratic party; eyes on White House… http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/Born09.gif
AllAfrica.com — ” Little wonder then why “Kenyan-born” Barack Obama, America’s first Black President…” http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born02.htm
GraphicGhana.com
— “For Ghana, Obama’s visit will be a celebration of another milestone
in African history as it hosts the first-ever “African-American
President” on this presidential visit to the “continent of his birth”.
The same article, with the same quote, appeared in ModernGhana.com. http://www.theobamafile.com/…/…5-ContinentOfBirth.htm
The
Ghana Times — “So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American
politics, Obama, the “African-American Senator” from Illinois state. A
Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the “Kenyan
born” American ahead of his rivel, John McCain.” http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/Born07.bmp

Glenn had an episode where he stated his family is in danger,  he didn’t go into it, but I firmly believe this is the case.   He was and looked really upset and his body language spoke volumnes of what he must be going through.
Putting in print and actual beliefs are very different.     What all this proves is, people are awake and questioning with boldness and that’s a good thing.
What it also proves,  Glenn is not viewd as a crusader by many……not all.

I think of Glenn as a false prophet, he gets a small part right to sucker you in. See I was right, now do as I say. 
But Glenn is in it for the money. He left Fox because of moneyHe left NY because of moneyHe started GBTV because of moneyHe’s a profiteer. 
Obama’s own wife stated that he’s Kenyan, not African-American, but Kenyan. Who should people believe Glenn or Obama’s wife and Obama’s own words.

This started getting strange for me when he said the Indians were a lost tribe of Jews from Israel.Then his book The 7 came out.That is pure new ageism and I am a former New Ager.
We have a choice between Romney and Obama.
There is a video out from Johnathan Cahn called the Harbinger it speaks to many of the things we are going through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H13DPkb6kjQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJABqq6luYo

I was being sarcastic…ooobaby.

Obama does NOT meet the requirements for being a “natural-born citizen.”  Citizenship is inherited thru the father REGARDLESS of the soil he is born on. So, even if Barry was born in Hawaii (which I do not believe to be true)  and his mother is an American citizen, he inherits his father’s citizenship which is Kenyan.  The baby’s citizenship always goes to the father, whatever that is AT THE TIME OF THE BABY’S BIRTH.  CASE CLOSED.  I don’t know why Glenn is so unwilling to take on this argument.  How can someone be so right-on on issues and so out of touch on this particular issue???  It boggles my mind that he is so closed-minded on this issue.

I HOPE Glenn reads our comments.  I think he is more and more insulated from the real world WE live in.  He has to have security around him all the time now…. so it may make him paranoid.  

I didn’t listen to Beck after the supposed killing of bin Laden but I’m sure he was pretty proud of the event even thought there was no evidence of it happening and that it was more than likely the man died a decade ago. Beck is an Obama stooge, I’m becoming more aware of that every time he puts a stupid article like this out.

I have not subscribes to GBTV, nor would I.  On the radio I can listen to him when and if I please, but I am so tired of all HIS advertisements for products that HE sells or benefits from… he is a mega millionaire and his wealth is now inflating his head and ego.  Too bad Glen, you used to be down to earth!!

Is the video above working for anyone?   Because mine is  not……can’t hear Glenn’s words.   Could someone have re-written the article instead?     Words changed just a bit ?    You all are so quick to judge Glenn…someone that has championed our cause since the beginning;  someone who was the original person that opened our eyes……how quickly we turn!

I watched his show live and what is written above is not what I heard out of Glenn’s mouth.

Well put and accurate….actually, the American democrat is the biggest racist!

Beck being threatened ?  Yes,  I am sure that this is a reality, however being threatened, if so, does not warrant the ridicule by Beck.  He could simply keep his mouth shut.  I believe that his ridicule is from the heart.  And, O’Reilly is off my radar.  He is a jerk in my opinion

This dysfunction of his is used to deceive the American people. I dream of Mitch Rapp sneaking into the White House in his stealth way, grabbing barry and michelle. Proceeding to the tar bucket and feather bin. And chasing them out of DC. 

Ok….now, who’s going to bring charges against him?     AG Holder?     We are in a mess we may never recover from!

Thank you, Glenn!

Starting with the 14th Amendment, it’s been clear that it is not paternity that makes one a citizen, but birthplace.  “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to
the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
State wherein they reside.”

Paternity matters, but only when a child is born outside of U.S. boundaries – for obvious reasons.

Civil War Reconstruction discussion (during which the 14th Amendment was passed) clears up the debate further.

“Who are natural born citizens but those born within the Republic?
Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by
birth–natural born citizens.” – John Bingham (Framer of the 14th Amendment)

Court Decisions have further, and consistently, upheld this interpretation: Lynch v. Clark held that a British girl born on U.S. soil to British parents was a natural born citizen who would be eligible to run for President.

“Upon principle, therefore, I can entertain no doubt, but that by the law
of the United States, every person born within the dominions and
allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents,
is a natural born citizen. It is surprising that there has been no
judicial decision upon this question.”

This has been reaffirmed in Wong, etc.

One cannot look to the Minor case as one rebutting this presumption for several reasons: 1) the Minor case is a women’s suffrage case, not a citizenship case; 2) it does not explore citizenship, it only brings citizenship up insofar as to reassure the court that she is, indeed, a citizen which they declare she is – by the most narrow definition imaginable.

And, finally, if a person must have two parents who are citizens of the U.S. to be natural born citizens, then Chester Arthur would not have been eligible for President and yet he served after Garfield was assassinated.

AND, furthermore, if it were true that parentage were needed, then anchor babies would not be an issue because those babies wouldn’t be citizens – and yet they are.

I’m certain Glenn understands and knows all of this.    I’m just as certain Glenn’s family has been threatened.    This is consistent with how someone behaves when in jeopardy.

All of this arguing about natural born citizen ?  All of you are assuming that Barack Obama Sr. is the father of Barry Soetoro.  We don’t know that.  We don’t know who his father is and he may not even know. We don’t know where he was born. I personally don’t believe that his father   is Barack Sr. I don’t see any physical resemblance. There are certainly other possibilities.  I also do not believe he was born in Hawaii.
 ”Only those who won’t disclose the truth are those with something to hide”
Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro, Steve Dunham, Harrison Bounel, Barry Shabazz, or whatever the hell his real name is.  Maybe his father is Frank Marshall  Davis.  One thing is for sure it is a real mystery who he is.  I say: go after the SOB for his identity theft, His falsifying government documents, his use of multiple Social Security numbers, his lying to Congress and lying to all of the American people.  He’s a fraud no matter how you look at it.

No matter how much garbage you post on pro-Article II websites or articles, the definition of natural born citizen did not magically change in 2008. It is and has always been defined as a child born on US soil to citizen parents. A 14th Amendment citizen is not the equivalent of an NBC. Minor v Happersett made that very clear ““The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born
citizens.” Minor was ruled on 6 years after the 14th Amendment was ratified. 

That being said, I’m sure you knew that. Nobody is believing your charade anymore man, give it up, you look goofy. 

 Pleas stop confusing citizenship with Natural Born citizenship, beside we don’t know who his father is or where he was born, there fore we don’t know what he is, quite possibly he is an illegal alien.

Where in the 14th does it state ‘Natural Born’ – answer: NOWHERE

you taut WKA, but your wrong

“In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the fourteenth amendment now in question, said: ‘The constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.’ And he proceeded to resort to the common law as an aid in the construction of this provision.”-Justice Grey, in US v Wong Kim Ark (1898) 

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.“That is mine, too,” said Leahy-Homeland Security SecretaryMichael Chertoff and Senator Patrick Leahy, (April 03, 2008) 

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.-Chief Justice Waite in Minor v. Happersett (1875) 

Or how about 
Justice Ginsburg: Mr.
Kneedler, if Congress went back to the way it when was everything was
determined by the father’s citizenship, go back before 1934

So the Naturalization Act of 1790;
the right of citizenship did “not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States….” Citizenship was inherited exclusively through the father. 

Obama’s father is a foreigner, Barack Obama is a foreigner. Period.

Exactly, thank you!   Point well taken.
Why would people publicly suggest Marco Rubio for VP if he weren’t a citizen?   

The only time we’re going to get a real president is when it doesn’t cost millions to get elected and the candidates don’t have to take in obscene amounts of money from those who are holding their puppet strings.  BO might be run out of office for several reasons, but the next guy/gal to take it will still have the same puppet masters.

Obama states that his father is a foreigner. End of the matter. 

Stop apologizing for Beck. He is a Quisling? He cannot trusted. He cannot be supported. He must be dismissed. Limbaugh and Savage have come around and seen the truth. Beck just wants to continue sucking up to Murdoch and Bill O’Silly and looting the conservative movement to feed his fat mouth with more garbage.

Obama states that his father is a foreigner. He has presented that, true or false that is the end.
Obama born a foreigner, from a foreigner. 

As Obama himsekf states:
As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. 

Nowhere is there any mention, hint, claim of any US Citizenship. 

Beck, do you read the comments on this blog? If you don’t one of your minions reads them, right? 90% have voiced the opinion you are wrong in your assessment. Why not come clean today and admit that a federal investigation is required to settle the Obama’s history. We need to see whatever real and certified evidence that Hussein was born in the USA. Arizona’s Secretary of State asked the State of Hawaii just to certify that he was born here and they do not even have the balls to reply, probably knowing that whoever send or authorizes such a certification would be criminally responsible when the truth finally comes out.  You are losing a lot of support on this issue, your credibility with your supporters is at stake and you do not seem to care. Are act as if you are a Quisling? Am I correct?

I could not disagree with you more, Glenn – and this never happens (well, can’t say that now) Your “benefit of the doubt” stance is ludicrous.  And Breitbart was planning to vet him all along with this information so it isn’t some left wing distraction – it was and IS meant to VET THE LOSER out of office. 

I suppose ALL of the people that STATED VERY CLEARLY (like his family members) that he was born in Kenya must have gotten this brochure then? And how can a MAJOR PIECE OF INFORMATION like WHERE THE HELL HE WAS BORN, be a fact checking error? Spelling of a city, even missing the name of the suburb and opting for the major city name I can understand but an error by an entire continent? I CALL BS! HE WAS born in Kenya – whatever – phuking liars, all of ‘em.

Obama’s literary agent changed Barack Obama’s bio page in April 2007, two months after he announced his run for President of the United States in February 2007. Even if the original 1991 brochure’s listing of Kenya as Obama’s birthplace was in error, as the agency has since claimed, it apparently was an error Obama allowed his publicist to persist in for over a decade, right until after he was running for president. Before that, Obama’s bio said he was born in Kenya. Twelve years after that brochure, however, the Dystel of Acton & Dystel was busy promoting Obama’s new book, “Dreams of My Father,” and still touting the author as “born in Kenya.”

In April 2007, two months after Obama had launched his presidential bid, Dystel was still touting the then-Democratic senator from Illinois as “born in Kenya.”

Yet on another trip to the internet’s Wayback Machine shows Dystel & Goderich describing Obama this way: “Barack Obama is the junior Democratic senator from Illinois and was the dynamic keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He was also the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago.” (wow, that’s a lotta detailed fact errors if you ask me!)

Only a few weeks later, the internet archive reveals, the publicist had changed Obama’s birthplace to Hawaii.

Which may explain why they are so adamant about not supporting the Kenya birthplace ANYMORE.  Either way, no matter who is right, this POS POTUS is a fraud, plain and simple.  I can’t wait for them to pull this card out on Romney like they did McCain as a distraction away from the Muslim Messiah.     

What I’d like to see Glenn do in his “fairy tale story” of the life of obama is start from the very “beginning” and dig in to his birth and validate it.  Somehow he can dig up info that no one else can, why won’t he on this subject?  Then we can all stop talking about it.  I think the big O is a phony from the beginning.  I don’t often disagree with GB but I do on this one.  Go Joe.  

Perhaps at the risk of perpetuity of both your profession and your screen name you would care to comment on Article 1 Section 9 in relation to limits placed on all subsequent congressional ex post facto action that could in any way alter intent of previous constitutional content in any fashion other than ratified amendment.

There is NO evidence that Obama was born in the USA.  An ad in a Hawaiian newspaper is NOT proof.  If you ask people in Hawaii about that time of the birth announcement of Obama in the newspaper, anyone can request an announcement be placed in the newspaper. 
What everyone is ignoring is that the onus SHOULD BE on Obama to provide proof that he meets the requirements of the Constitution, not everyone else that he does not. 
At the very least, Obama is a lier when he posted a fraudulent birth certificate on line. 
When I apply for my Driver’s license, I am the one who provides the birth certificate and for the multiple other times that my birth certificate has been required.  
Being elected President by fraud does not make a legitimate President.   
My respect for Glenn Beck has declined!
It seems that no one is looking out for “We the people.”

Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I believe BO’s first executive order on day one was to seal his records. At least his college records. Why?

I also don’t believe there is a recorded statement by BO that says “This is my Birth Cerfificate from Hawaii”. To my knowledge the last one released was an obvious forgery which he never claimed was valid. Why?

Now I know, and if Beck says it ain’t so, it ain’t so! The three worst things ever to happen in this countries history are, 1) Obama came along, 2) he got elected, and 3) Beck departed FOX TV. When FOX caved in on Beck, the country was and is in danger of going down the drain and no one is out in the public to tell us how it is. In my view FOX is just slightly better than the “C” news networks. “C” are  CBS, ABC, NBC and the others.

Christine is right.  A person who obtains citizenship by virtue of being born on U.S. soil is a citizen ONLY because of the 14th amendment. That makes that person a citizen by statute or by law.  That person is NOT eligible to be president.  If Obama was truly born in Hawaii, he would be a citizen by virtue of the 14th amendment and would be a citizen by virtue of law and would NOT be a natural born citizen since both of his parents were NOT citizens.  He was born a person with DUAL citizenship (British & U.S.) and that person is NOT a natural born citizen.  The purpose of this requirement was to keep people with dual loyalties out of the White House — and you can see how Obama is loyal to his home country of Kenya by the amount of money he slips to that country without Congressional approval.

Glenn, I have stopped listening  to you because you are criticising  a lot of your audience who have legitimate concern about this issue. I would say that your argument against this is much weaker than our argument for it. Have you considered that maybe the reason Barry Hussein is taking the country in such a dangerous direction is not only his friends but where he comes from ie, birth certificate?! 

why doesn’t it matter that he may or MAY NOT  be a legal citizen?! excuse me…it kinda does matter if he is not legal……..do you want someone who is not a legal US citizen to hold the highest office in our land???   does that make a whole lot of sense and furthermore is it safe?   NO

My one question is :  What if it is found later on that President Obama wasn’t born a citizen.  What do we do about all the “changes” he made to the country? Are we stuck with them?

What would you propose? Take him out back and shoot him? or hang him? Which is what they did with traitors back in the day. Now, they just promote them to a desk job in DC.

 Hell..hes done  been in office 4 years..The lazy ass  reb congress could have got rid of him if they wanted to,Tired hearing Blah Blah about this matter,Wake  up either party don’t give  a rats behind where any one is born,The idiot is is going to win ReElection again any way…

He isn’t now. He hit a raw nerve back in his early days at CNN…that’s why he moved to FOX. Then he connected the dots and exposed an entire network…or flow chart…of crimes and crooks. That pissed them off even more. That is why there has been a fast and furious campaign to discredit him and bury him in claims of baffoonery. How better to distract the public from the truth of what is going on than to shoot the messenger (malign his character) and minimalize his message?

Really? My bad. But it’s true. His entire resume and history is fiction…bad fiction at that!

As the Red Queen said: “Off with their heads!”…or was that Marie Antoinette? lol

The Chicago Thugocracy has been known to be a little out of control when they perceive their backs are against the wall. History has a way of repeating itself, especially in Chicago!

Sorry Glenn, This investigation was done by team of deputy sheriffs.And they found his birth certificate looks like a forgery.And once you read where is the real birth certificate which was painstakingly researched maybe you would get off your throne and stop telling us how right you always are!. At the very least about 50% of us want answers and Obama has been forthcoming about nothing. This sorry excuse for POTUS,Lies about almost anything.So i feel no reason to just believe him.

 http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/13/obama-lawyer-admits-forgery-but-disregards-image-as-indication-of-obamas-ineligibility-damage-control/  Glenn has never addressed this fact which has been in court.  Me thinks the “Ostrich With head In Sand “  has bitten Becks judgement!!

what I can’t wait for is when the facts are known, what will happen to Obama’s kids or Michelle

Section 3: TreasonSection 3 defines treason and its punishment.Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.That means in order for Obama to escape justice he would have to expire. But if Michelle were still alive, then she is guilty of treason herself and she being alive, then the kids would also be guilty under ‘Corruption of Blood’.Corruption of blood is one of the consequences of attainder. The descendants of an attainted person could not inherit either from the attainted criminal (whose property had been forfeited on conviction) or from their other relatives through the criminal. 

 Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery but disregards “image” as Indication of Obama’s Ineligibility Damage Control  http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/13/obama-lawyer-admits-forgery-but-disregards-image-as-indication-of-obamas-ineligibility-damage-control/  Glenn Beck is avoiding the basic law of the land that a fraudulent person of identity cannot occupy the presidency.  This is criminal and treasonous.  Me thinks Mr Beck is suffering from the: “Ostrich in The Sand” syndrome which puts his credibility of purpose in question for me.

How else would you fight fire?

No….and that is my point.    I haven’t heard him say it!

Go to “Search.”  Type in Barack Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.  Click on that link and scroll down.  You will see a footprint that should be matched to his.

Well if the evidence is real…then why hasn’t anything been done about it “formally?” Oh and by the way, I am NOT an Obama lover and know he is ruining our country, but it seems not so cut and dry like we would all hope..hence my statement(too hard)..everything I know of Glen Beck, he doesn’t shy away from too much, and being in Obama’s back pocket is nowhere he’d be…he does not like this man as president…so I’m not getting it.

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Elegy56 wrote, in response to Beckybear19:
Too hard? There is not one document that proves he’s an Article II natural born citizen, much more a citizen of this nation. There is mountains and mountains of evidence proving this guy is not a citizen, Arpaio couldn’t even find one document nationwide after 6 months. If you think Beck has any integrity or truly gives a crap if Obama stays in office, you’re very naive. Link to comment

I think Glenn has the lies pinpointed, however…there is the sticky little cover-up thing …like FAKING a birth certificate…isn’t that a crime even for the president?  and also the Hawaii thing that documents were tampered with…and on and on…what a DECEIVER!

 Then how do you explain the vast majority of these so called “birthers” supported Herman Cain?

Barrack Obama is not black.  He is light brown.  His Mom was white.

Herman Cain is black.  He is african-american, and his ancestors were slaves.

Many of the people you call racists supported Cain.  So how can you make the claim that the birth certificate thing is because Obama is “a black man”.  How can you explain N*****R hating white southern racists supporting a black man who is literally 2 shades darker than Obama?

Go to “Search.”  Type in Barack Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.  Click on that link.  Then scroll down and you will see the footprint. 

This is the first time I didn’t see Snowleopard comment on this thread….I wonder why?

 While I agree with you on your points, beck can’t lose his job.

He owns his own media company now, so he can’t fire himself, unless he starts drinking again and in a drunken stupor he gives himself the pink slip…

 Dude, you do realize that Glenn beck doesn’t read the comments here, right?

Are you talking to yourself or role playing or something?  because addressing Beck here in a comment is, uh, an exercise in futility.

Beck is not an Obama stooge, but he is wrong on the birther issue.  Don’t try to damage him for all the good he is doing and all the bad he is exposing because of an opinion you disagree with.  It’s throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Look through the other topics and see when was the last time she posted a comment.

Nevermind looking. She posted 2 hours ago.

Strange, huh?

Take a deep breath and clear your head.  The fact that Beck and Romney are Mormons has nothing to do with his endorsement of him.  Harry Reid is also a Mormon.  The anti-Christ hates God.  Glenn loves God and Romney has a right to his religious beliefs whether or not you agree with them and most likely have a false sense of them.  I am not a Mormon.

Where is congress on any of these issues? They keep acting as though Obama is our legitimate President when the Office of the Presidency has been hijacked by an imposter!!!  Man up Glenn on calling them out!!! – It is not just a media default. Congressional names should be identified as complicit such as: Pelosi, Reed, Shumer, Franken, Durbin and the majority of the Black caucus.. Only Allen West seems to have the cajones to do this. By correctly identifying who this man is and where he came from will give the empty headed voter a clear basis for questioning the validty of this man purposes for America. – Clarity in understanding what he means by “fundamentally changing America” into what? A 3rd world based, 2d rate Socialist state, subservient to the despots of the world whom control the UN.

video does not play

Open your eyes Glenn! There’s an elephant in the room!!!

Wow! So then the two different videos of Michelle Obama(one at an AIDS awareness meeting and the other at a University)where she states “my husband’s home country of Kenya” and refers to her husband as “a black Kenyan man” don’t even count? how about the fact that the first three numbers of his SS Number (042) are exclusive to Connecticut and ONLY Connecticut?(a place Obama has never lived or worked) How about the FACT that his SS Number was flagged as belonging to Jean Paul Ludwig, a man who lived in Connecticut after becoming a US citizen in 1958 and who spent the last few moths of his life in Hawaii, where at the time Barack Obama;s grandmother worked in Hawaii’s probate office, and had access to thousands of SS files so that she could find out who had and had not ever recieved SS bennefits?(which Ludwig did not, making him the perfect candidate for ID theft) What about the fact that Obama has publically mis-calculated his age and his birthdate at least 3 times? How about the fact that the Hospital stated on his Birth Certificate was not only under a different name in 1961 (because there were actually two different hospitals next to each other), but the paterity ward was in fact, in the other hospital of a different name (these 2 hospitals were later joined together. What about the fact that his own grandmother in Kenya admits to witnessing his birth in a kenyan hospital? Why does the president of Kenya admit that he was born in Kenya? Why is there a monument in fron of a hospital in Kenya that states “birthplace of Barack H.Obama?” What about the HQ video that was taped in 2005 that I saw with my own eyes back in 2006 (that Youtube babished in late 2007) that shows casually dressed Obama, George W.Bush and Bill Clinton in Kenya shaking hands with Kenyan leaders and refering to him as “the next president of the United States,and whom was born in their country?” What about the 2004 AP News Article that states “Kenyan-Born Obama All Set For US Senate?” What about the Chicago newspaper that came out the day after he was elected Senator of Illinois that had a front page article titled “History In The Making: America’s First Kenyan Born Senator?” I’m sorry, but there’s just waaaaaay too much evidence that proves that their is a conspiracy going on and I can definitelly assure you that Glenn Beck is a paid shill who is a part of the “controlled opposition!”

 Handsoffmyhealth,

Please show your findings.
In the below case Perkins v. Elg it was about “Citizenship”
not natural born Citizen.
If you are suggesting the natural born Citizen child of the Steinkauler’s Case, 15 Op.Atty.Gen. 15. pg 307 U.S. 330, please note that is a separate case used to show the difference between the circumstances of the parents/children.
 
U.S. Supreme CourtPerkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)Perkins v. Elg

No. 454Argued February 3, 1939Decided May 29, 1939*307 U.S. 325CERTIORARI TO THE COURT OF APPEALS

FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

As for Rubio, No, show me the legal info. not your opinion or blogs. His parents were not naturalized until after he was born by around 4 years. They were in a Cuban/US Protectorate but that is not US territory.
As for Jindal, No, show me the legal info. not your opinion or blogs.

I have shown you statements from Thomas Jefferson’s “Virginia’s Citizenship statue” in 1779. (Parents)
I have shown you U.S. Supreme CourtPerkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939). (Citizenship only)

Please contribute your court documented information.

I’ve got to go clean some ponds and mow the lawn.
Have a Great weekend all.

Honestly, none of this matters now.  Its ALL redundant.  The entire reason that “those Birthers”  (how rude to call people who are very concerned that only the truth be spoken are called that) even care about his lies, is to prove he is a liar.  Duh.  Now, you take time and energy to try to prove it yourself?   OK.  Beck, you are a “Truther!”  The entire point is that Barry Slick, AKA Obama, AKA, Soetro, is a liar.  We ALL know that. Congress knows that, the Dems know that, the Repubs know that, only the useful idiots don’t know that and we don’t care what the idiots believe, do we?  They’ll believe anything.  Glenn, your insistence that Barry Slick is an American Citizen is ridiculous, because you don’t know that.  You are only assuming that in order to appeal to the widest audience possible.  While I admire and respect you for telling the truth about what we as a people are going through, and it IS ugly, I do not respect you for pushing your opinions to the point of insulting others because they don’t believe like you do.  I personally believe you are wrong about his being a US citizen.  I personally believe he has faked his own birth certificate because he cannot show his real one and still draw us to the conclusion that he is a US citizen.  He’s not.  Believing this, I do not demean and brand others because they dont believe it.  The entire point of the article above, and of the concern by “the Birthers” is that Slick is a LIAR!  Its a bit like allowing some scab lifer-criminal sit in the most venerated seat in the Nation and to actually make POLICY for the United States while seated.  That is what is happening in a nutshell.  Kick his lying gluteals out of the “Seat” and bleach the damned thing, and move ON!  The ONLY reason that Congress hasn’t dragged him out of the House by the collar and tossed him into the street is that every one of them that can do it, has an agenda, that somehow plays upon or includes Slick, that is for their personal gain, -an agenda that The LIC (Liar in Chief) is somehow filling.  Be it something called an Agenda 21, or a Wall Street deal or a foreign interest they might have, -or, whatever: maybe just complete tyranny over the American Citizen, Slick is filling their need.  And the Dems will back him clear down to Hell, if need be.  THAT is r/t the fact that the Socialists and communists were invited and integrated into the Democratic Political Party, and they (commies and socialists) see this as their ONE chance to massively grow their diabolicalicity. (yes, my word)  (OK.  “power”  -your word.)

 …Fundamentally changing America into a Muslim, Shariah-law-run Nation, of course.  He was raised  Muslim,  so any deep-seated personal beliefs he may have will rear their head in that direction, and he will gain the most personal power by dragging us into that particular hell.  Favors will be owed him for it.  Kiss a ring here and there, stink-bug yourself in front of this and that person, and you are IN!  Criminal-in-Chief!  Made it!  I bet all the US prison inmates are jealous of this dude.  Only thing about Shariah (sp?) Law, is that he will not actually qualify to live, after the favors have been paid.  But he thinks he can lie his way out of anything, so he is unconcerned.  Arrogant.  His plan is to destroy America, phase 1, -and it is now in progress, and phase two; set himself up forever on the top of the heap, counting on the fact that he pulled us down over the brink (yes, I KNOW we were on the brink of destruction before that, and it was planned as well) and that he will be Internationally known as “the Hero” that destroyed America, by smashing us into the dirt when we were in deep trouble.  Yeah, he thinks he can ride that one for the rest of his life. 

So, can it be proven these are Glenn’s words written here?

…and like currently using a Social Security Number that was actually given to a man in the 1800′s?  Not ONE word about that, and it is completely illegal. 

THANK YOU, Daniel!

Hopefully, Henry, they will be excommunicated to Slick’s home village.

Open letter on the link below Glenn, do you have the backbone to answer?:

“Birthers? No Glenn, Constitutionalists!  Nothing more, nothing less.  Unlike the left and apparently you too, we are not going to spout our love and dedication to the Constitution and then pick and chose the parts we will abide and ignore those deemed inconvenient.”
http://www.tpath.org/ 

Congress is either complicit or they are the most cowardly people in the nation. I have written to close to 50 of the people I thought were trustworthy and either got the runaround or they just refuse to answer. The biggest disappointment to me is Allen West, for all of his tough talk, he’s nothing but part of the establishment any longer. To think this guy, like myself, has deployed and lost friends in Iraq/Afghan, the nerve of this guy to spit on their graves is disgusting.

Give me a break, he doesn’t touch anything that could truly bring the guy down. He reports on crap anybody could find if they had time to sit and research. Don’t get me wrong, he’s entertaining sometimes, but to say he’s any different than the Hannity’s and Levin’s and the other so called “conservatives” that only care about the Constitution when they can make a few bucks off of it, is stretching it.

This imposter in the Presidency announced in Camp David this morning he was negotiating in good faith with Iran who has the right to peaceful nuclear uses and feels their intentions are honorable.  What a crock!  Watch this translated video of their true intentions and realize our imposter President who has never renounced Islam and Jeremiah Wright claims is not a very religious or church going kind of guy, isolates Israel from NATO while Turkey (This Pres spends more time on phone with Obama than any other leader) has been identified by the Islamic world as the future center of the coming worldwide caliphate; then decide for yourself if Obama is pointing America in the right direction.  A trial for treason would be appropriate!!
http://youtu.be/WwiadYT-N9k  By the way, Romney pulling a John McCain on the vetting makes me want to peuwck!!!  – We have been had folks. Arghhh!!

Sadly, you are spot on.

I really hope there’s an ongoing investigation we aren’t privy to that will expose this guy before the election…that’s what I’m praying for.

Vote him out of office because he’s lying communist, not because he’s a lying communist foreigner?

Vote him out, let’s sort out the truth about the cretin after he’s history.

Glenn, you’re in denial if you still believe that Obama’s BC is not a forgery. What you are saying then is that all the experts who have verified it is a forgery are wrong!!! You are saying that Sheriff Arpaio is wrong! But I will tell you that YOU are wrong!!! Question with boldness Glenn.
Report the truth!!!! It seems that all t his sacred honor bull is just that. BULL! You’re a dissapointment. You’re just like all the rest Glen. Addicted to your money and status. You have gone back on your promise to defend your country! You are hiding the truth!

Glenn can’t question with boldness, cause his talking points won’t allow it. 
Glenn is a slave to his addictions, popularity and money.
If he’d admit the truth, he’d lose both. 
Think of Glenn as a slight of hand artist – watch this, but don’t look here. 
Growing up in little Mt Vernon Washington, must have played an important impact on Glenn, wanting the finer things and never going back to those roots that were supposed to be part of his character, like honesty and integrity. Another two things that Glenn has lost.

Obama thinks in composites as he admitted in case of his girlfriends.He could be doing the same about his place of birth.With such a composite he could have been born at any place on earth.

I hope so to.

That’s Beck’s twisted version of the truth.

He isn’t going to get voted out. The same powers that got him on the ballot and kept him in office despite him not being eligible, will ensure he “wins”. Paul or Romney would wipe the floor with him, but the voter fraud is going to be ridiculous. The only way to get rid of this guy is to get him off the ballot. If we had a media or just a handful of media with large platforms like Beck and Limbaugh that actually loved this nation and Constitution, this wouldn’t even be an issue, he would have never been on the ballot in ’08. But Beck and the other Obama hacks are making sure the citizens are left in the dark about the biggest scandal to ever rock this nation.

Glenn may be many things, but an Obama hack, I don’t think so.

Lots of new people on here the last two days….what, the lights are finally out?    Cockroach sandwich anyone?

Really? How do you explain the obama publisher’s bio of said obama being from Kenya from 1991 to 2007? splain dat one wood ya pleeze. You cannot tell me that the little”o” narcisust in-chief would not have looked at his preening bio in all that time. Face it dude. He is a FRAUD..LOL kool-ade king….

If it’s established he was not eligible for the Presidency, then every one of his “executive orders” are invalid as well on every bill he signed into law as invalid. And “Obamacare” goes on the trash heap of infamous history.  My friend, his eligibility IS a big deal, quit accepting him as a legitimate President – if you do – we lose and America loses.

To me it makes no difference where he’s from or what he did to sell books. The guy is doing what I’ve long thought should be done. You are just sore because it’s not what you would do. Remember to vote on november, and don’t think for a second the liberal side of the country thinks unimportant these next elections. Everyone will come out to try to empower whoever they think represents them. We’ll see who democracy favors. Till then, know I am tolerant of your position and will accept it if America puts that tool Romney in power.

Thanks for clearing up my misconception I looked it up and you are correct. The Constitution lists three requirements for any individual wishing to become president of the United States.
#1 A president must:
be a native-born U.S. citizen. Someone may be born abroad, but only if both parents were citizens of the United States.
I guess I got my memory mixed up.
Happens to us old folks sometimes.

Bt the way, the link on my notice to return to the post takes you to some scamming site. Kind of odd, don’t you think.
Subject: [glennbeck] Re: Glenn’s take on the latest birther claims

 Glenn is kissing up to his Dufus buddy at Fox Bill O’Reilly who is a huge fake warrior for “the folks”.  O’Reilly is so far Obama’s Butt there is no way he can see the forest for the trees.  It’s too much about ratings and not enough “search with boldness for the truth” – then TELL THE TRUTH for goodness sake Glenn!!!

Hey shootfirst, Thanks for the feedback. Senility must be settling in.
Police warning: “Halt!” Bang Bang “or I’ll shoot.” Bang Bang

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I miss my mind the most.

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Subject: [glennbeck] Re: Glenn’s take on the latest birther claims

 If what I have seen in some of the “behind the scene” pieces he has done on the production of his show, he sits with his crew and verbalizes his monologue or script, they record it then transcribe it.  This was aired then transcribed verbatim I believe – that is an assumption only.

 Masterfully said – I agree whole heartedly!

DHS Whistleblower: Obama to Commit ‘Reichstag’ Event to Enact Martial Law

http://visiontoamerica.org/9682/dhs-whistleblower-obama-to-commit-reichstag-event-to-enact-martial-law/

This is the real possibility of no election and the cementing of the Obama Dictatorship.
Ask yourself Why has the Obama DHS ordered 450 million rounds of ammo now.  Who are his “Brown Shirts” going to be? The “Occupiers, The New Black Panther Party, The Farakaan million man army?  The stage is set.

Just wondering :

    Glenn Hannity, Limbaugh and most other commentators seem to have some what of a closed mind on the Birther issue. 

    OR: They have been advised in no uncertain terms to Not Go There.  The latter is my guess. 

   Anyone & everyone, Media commentators included,  can dump any dammed label they choose on me for having the Right to question Obama’s Legal Birth Documentation. 
    The Media punks and Congress can get all over some druggie Baseball player for lying & insulting their intelligence but , No But Hell no they ain’t gonna touch on anything that affects the entire population of what once was  A Free Speech America .

    This  Birth issue has been around long  Before Candidate Obama flew into the Oval Office without so much as a hand written note on a bathroom wall saying Obama was here & actually existed .  Not to mention, few if any Yea / Nay votes recorded during his 180 day term as a senator showing  Obama was even present for most of the sessions.

   What I’m saying is I take it Personally when other folks diss me and call me nothing more than a conspiratorial Freek , especially when There is More than ample reason to at least bring the Birth issue to the forefront .

   I doubt the issue is ever going to be resolved .To many Panty waisted wussies who are too wimpy to take this issue to the People in spite of the Fact that the many issues with Obama & His Illuminati gang “Will” be the end of America & Our Children’s futures & priceless peace of mind & happiness, etc, ,  not to mention Life in general .

If  Obama  was to be questioned by any authority / authorities ,  that are sworn by Oath to see that any & all potential  representatives of “We The People” might vote for or against are qualified to be such , Obama’s issue likely won’t  be resolved for decades After Obama has been appointed Chief  Dictator of the U.N.’s Global Union..

   On the minute possibility that Obama is Ever proven to be an Illegal POTUS by the Birth issue as well as Con-gress’ Illegal silence regarding Obama’s Proven acts of Treason the Nay sayers will only cop out on their previous disclaimer about All of Obama’s obvious & Dangerous  Lack of Integrity. 

   As in: We didn’t want to upset the Peasants and be responsible for causing unrest among the Dumbassed commoners.

   Considering How many have Profited from Obama’s actions there will never come a day when these Profiteers admit to being Useful Idiots of their own destruction. 
   These Anti-Birther issue Traitors, Media punditry, conservative talking heads included,  ”Have” all been co-conspirators in one dam thing without a doubt.
     They have Redefined & or Corrupted  the old phrase  ” Silence Is golden”  into ” Gold buys  their Silence  ” .
   If it weren’t for Obama being elected and bringing his baggage filled with deceit & outright dishonesty with him, Not One dammed News anchor  , talk show host etc on the right or left would be multi millionaires  today.
       Oh wait , Did I forget to tell  ”all”  the  ” Birthers are Crazy Crowd ” to KMA ??

Idk…ask her!!!

Like a lot
of people, I could care less where Barack Obama was born, but I have a big problem
with the reactions of those who were instrumental at getting him elected.

One of the
first reactions I heard was that the claim [that Obama was not a natural born
citizen] was just another radical right-wing conspiracy. Pundits who reacted
that way had to have known that a Democratic lawyer made the original assertion
during the Democratic primary race. I knew it, as did anyone and everyone who got
their news from credible media organizations.

I next heard
that to believe Obama was not born in the USA, one would have to believe that a
whole lot of people had to be in on the cover up from the day he was born. And all
those people would have to have known that he would one day run for President
and have great need for that natural-born citizen status.

It was as
common as rain for mothers from all over the world to believe that their children
would have no chance for a good life if they were not born in the US. There was
no need for a conspiracy. It was only natural that Obama’s mother would have
come back to the US to give birth to her baby. But did she?

My wife
is a natural-born, first generation, Italian-American citizen in that both her
parents were American citizens living in this country before, during and after
her birth. She grew up and was educated here too. She is far more
“natural-born” than our President.

But
her birth certificate is wrong by ten days and as such it is a
meaningless piece of paper to me. She was born at home in upstate NY but it
could have been Italy for all the authorities knew.  Her birth certificate was obtained by family
friends ten days after she was born. So why would I care if Barack Obama
produced an official document declaring him to be born where and when it is
required to be born in order to be as eligible as my wife to be President? The
answer is – I don’t. He is the most unnatural-born President in our history, more
unnatural than 99% of American citizens, and it shows.

I have to wonder what all these Talking head Birth Deniers will do with the multi-millions they have made on the back  of Obama’s Illegal & Treasonous existence ? 

   When All the world’s  worthless wealth / money is blowing in the streets , just as God says “Will” happen.  

  Trust No Mortal Man’s words before God’s Promises.

Even if he was a natural born U.S. citizen, he is still the worst poser in OUR White House ever!
He is a Manchurian Candidate.

 Dude… you mean dumb SCHMUCK. LOL!

He , along with Van Jones(back to jail), Anita Dunn, Valerie Jarrett, Rob Emmanuel, and David Axelrod, and most of all, the bastard genocide proponent and chief of regulations – Cass Sunstein, should all be behind bars with due haste.!!

 You are so wrong. It has never been the law that both parents have to be US citizens to be a natural born citizen, eligible to be President. Jus soli only. If born in the US, even if raised elsewhere, unless he renounced his birthright as US citizen when 21, he is a natural born citizen, eligible. I don’t like it, he was raised anti-american, but that is the “law”

Some cases and opinions
1844 Lynch v. Clarke  NY Chanc.Ct., Nov. 5, 1844; 1 Sandf.Ch. 583, 3 NY Leg.Obs.
236, 1844 WL 4804

 The
New York Chancery Court determined that, under common law and prevailing
statutes, she was a U.S.
citizen by birth and nothing had deprived her of that citizenship,
notwithstanding that both her parents were not U.S. citizens or that British law
might also claim her through her parents’ nationality. In the course of the
decision, the court cited the Constitutional provision and said:

“Suppose a person should be elected president who was native born, but of
alien parents; could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under
the Constitution? I think not. The position would be decisive in his favor,
that by the rule of the common law, in force when the Constitution was adopted,
he is a citizen.”

1884 In RE Look Tin Sing  D.Cal., Sept. 29, 1884) 21 Fed. 905, 10
Sawyer’s Rpts.

citing Lynch the Vice-Chancellor said that after an exhaustive search of the
law, he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and
allegiance of the United
States, whatever the situation of his
parents, was a natural-born citizen, and added that this was the general
understanding of the legal profession, and the universal impression of the public
mind.

2009    Ankeny v.
Governor of Indiana (Ind.App., Nov. 12, 2009) 916 N.E.2d 678 at
688″Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the
guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within
the borders of the United States are ‘natural born Citizens’ for Article II,
Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”

There are not, as some of you have asserted, two classes of natural born citizens, one eligible for highest office and one not. There are 2 classes of citizens, naturalized and natural born. They have all the same rights and privileges, with the exception of eligibility for election to the
VP/Pres, which is reserved to natural born citizens.
Jus soli is the standard for US citizenship, which by definition is natural born citizenship. Black’s Law Dictionary (9th Edition) defines “Natural Born Citizen” as “A person born within the jurisdiction of a national government.” If you are born in the US, you are a
natural born citizen and therefore eligible to be VP and/or President, regardless of citizenship status of parents. History, legal opinion, court cases, both lower and Supreme Court and common and international law almost
uniformly support this from 1804 on. (The Dred Scott case was an exception and rested on an opinion by the Justices that Negroes were inferior and not eligible for citizenship). It has never been the law that 2 parents be US citizens for a person to be a natural born citizen and thus eligible for
VP/President. 
A few cases and opinions:

1862 John Bingham (US Rep) The Constitution leaves no room for doubt upon this subject. The words ‘natural born citizen of the United states’ appear in it, and the other
provision appears in it that, “Congress shall have power to pass a uniform system of naturalization.” To naturalize a person is to admit him to citizenship. Who are natural born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens
by birth–natural born citizens.
1875  Steinkauler’s Case, 15 Opinions of the US
Attorneys-General 15 at 17-18 (June 26, 1875).  
“ Under the treaty [of 1868 with Germany],and in harmony with American doctrine, it is clear that Steinkauler the father abandoned his naturalization in America
and became a German subject (his son being yet a minor), and that by virtue of German laws the son acquired German nationality. It is equally clear that the son, by birth, has American nationality, and hence he has two nationalities, one natural, the other acquired. …. Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen. There is no law of the United States under which his father or any other person can deprive him of his birthright. He can return to America at the age of 21, and in due time, if the people elect, he can become President of the United States….. I am of opinion that when he reaches the age of 21 years he can then elect whether he will return and take the nationality of his birth, with its duties and privileges,
or retain the nationality acquired by the act of his father.”

1844 Lynch v. Clarke  NY Chanc.Ct., Nov. 5, 1844; 1 Sandf.Ch. 583, 3 NY Leg.Obs. 236, 1844 WL 4804

 TheNew York Chancery Court determined that, under common law and prevailing statutes, she was a U.S.
citizen by birth and nothing had deprived her of that citizenship, notwithstanding that both her parents were not U.S. citizens or that British law might also claim her through her parents’ nationality. In the course of the
decision, the court cited the Constitutional provision and said:

“Suppose a person should be elected president who was native born, but of alien parents; could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the Constitution? I think not. The position would be decisive in his favor, that by the rule of the common law, in force when the Constitution was adopted, he is a citizen.”

1884 In RE Look Tin Sing  D.Cal., Sept. 29, 1884) 21 Fed. 905, 10 Sawyer’s Rpts.

citing Lynch the Vice-Chancellor said that after an exhaustive search of the law, he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his
parents, was a natural-born citizen, and added that this was the general understanding of the legal profession, and the universal impression of the public mind.

1898  United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 708
(1898). “ The Lynch case was also cited as a leading precedent in the U.S. Supreme Court decision in United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898),
which similarly held that the child born here of two Chinese parents was a birthright US citizen, and that decision also used the phrase “natural born”
 
1939 SC Perkins v. Elg, a case involving a similar question to Steinkauler about an American-born girl in Sweden. Steinkauler was quoted extensively in the decision affirming the lower courts’ ruling that she was a natural born citizen, including the passage ” There is no law of the United States under which his father or any other
person can deprive him of his birthright. He can return to America at the age of 21, and in due time, if the people elect, he can become President of the United States….”

2009    Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Ind.App., Nov. 12, 2009) 916 N.E.2d 678 at 688″Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within
the borders of the United States are ‘natural born Citizens’ for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”

  Glenn either is For Honesty & Truth or he is against “We The People” knowing either way.  
    Glenn, Hannity, O’Rielly have changed { For The Worst} since the Murdock / Fox  crucification gig that was Created by the Traitors on both the Right & Left . 
    I can’t hardly stand to listen to any of them when they are constantly ranting about people like me who want answers & Should be heard.

    I’m a Birther Because No One in charge of the Truth wants to be.
      Silence is Golden to the Money changers.

       Silence is  often no more than an Unspoken  Lie to me.
  The Truth cannot be silenced, Only those who refuse to Speak the Truth  are & or, can be silenced.

No. The lights have just come on and they are scattering everywhere looking for a place to hide!

  Imo:  McCain was never intended to win POTUS. Ref:  I.E. A Dog & pony show choreographed by the Traitors / enemies within the entire Political Spectrum to Make Obama their Leader, or, at least the  Global Ruler’s spokesperson..

   AThe leaders who Know the Truth are ignoring it , Why ??  Because they are “All” part of the Lie. Period, No more, no less.     We The People were “HAD by Both parties in 2008 in a Deceitful Political sense, In Nov  ”We The People” will be had for the final round and the rest is hard to fathom.

  Any & All who actually believe the rivalry between the R&D isles is no more than The Deceiver’s Useful Idiots. No offense intended for I also have become a Useful Idiot who has not the power to stop “Our” Traitors from doing what they  generationally have been planning for over 70 years.  Inch by Inch, Nudge by Nudge &  Poof,  America is gone.

And why does everyone seem to ignore the 1875 SUPREME COURT decision in Minor vs Happersat, which clearly states that a natural born citizen is one who has two citizens for parents…HELLO–already defined, O does not meet the requirement (nor perhaps does Marco Rubio)

 All well & good, but the true issue we are discussing is whether he was born outside of the USA soil of which there seems to be an abundance of evidence – er-refutable evidence.  Most of those participating in this comment thread already know, so I won’t take the time to re-iterate.  Your piece is well written and right on as to being born on US soil but the real issue comes when the person is foreign born as to both parents being US Citizens.  Hence I still believe the evidence proves Obama is a fraudulent Occupier of the Presidency to say nothing of the voter fraud accomplished to put him in the Office.

If you are saying Obama was BORN in any Province of the United States where is the Dammed Original BC which would be the Ultimate Proof ?  

    RUFREE is also covertly Assuming / Trumpeting that Obama was Born in the U.S. Which “IS” the issue & RUFREE’s case law scripts proves the relevance of such..

Obama can’t & or won’t present “Original” documents Proving he was born on U.S. soil, so how the hell can all the Obama lovers be in possession of said Proof ??

Yep: Just as I have known strictly by the accused / Obama’s actions , the Obama gang’s Useful Idiots can’t Prove a non existent truth.

   Nice try with all the case law scripts saying Born on U.S. soil , means  born a Natural Citizen . 
      Now; I’m game for Congress & The Supreme court taking up the issue solely on case law just to see if they do so By the Letter of case law / laws ??

 Now: Since I accept your case law debate,    How bout the Obama lovers meeting “We The Patriots” half way on this ?  UhHmmm–  Didn’t think so.

IMO Mormonism is worse than many other cults because they interweave the Book of Mormon WITH actual Bible SCRIPTURE. Smith didn’t just write another book, he DEFILED Christian, BIBLICAL scripture by mixing it with his demonic, deluded doctrine of devils. Having said that I’ll still vote for Romney since the ONLY alternative will be Obama.

But I wanted to say something about your assertion that Christmas, Easter, etc. are from paganism. My own daughter in law is filling our little grandchildren with that same crock and I’ll be revealing this same truth to her soon also. Ask yourself who (Who) created everything, including the Earth. Then ask yourself Who put His own self INTO Mary’s egg to fertilize it. The answer to both questions is JESUS.

John 1: 1-4 (NIV)

1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2. He was with God in the beginning.
3. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
4. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.

Jesus existed as ‘the Word’ before being born as a human being. But he was STILL ‘the Word’ even after having been made flesh. He STILL created ‘all things’ before he became flesh. As a human he HAD a birthday (or day of birth) and even the angels in Heaven CELEBRATED THAT BIRTH. My point is that JESUS (as the Word) CREATED every thing, including day and night (a DAY) and all days throughout the seasons. So you see that it doesn’t MATTER if the Catholic church set aside Dec. 25th as the day for Christians to celebrate Jesus birth because HE already OWNED that day and EVERY day (remember…. ALL THINGS are HIS and for HIS pleasure). It doesn’t matter that pagans ascribed some kind of pagan worship or ceremony to that day. That day (and ALL DAYS) BELONGED TO and still BELONG TO the Word (JESUS).

As far as I’m concerned the Catholic church by setting aside Dec. 25th to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ was simply TAKING BACK what ALREADY BELONGED to Jesus Christ since BEFORE the foundation of the world! (I’m non-denominational and not Catholic.) There is NOTHING ‘pagan’ about Christmas OR Easter! EVERY DAY OF EVERY SEASON BELONGED TO AND STILL BELONGS TO GOD (to Jesus Christ…THE WORD).

I hope you’ll give yourself time to really think about it because I believe that you’ll realize that you can celebrate His birth with OUT thinking that it’s simply a ‘Christianized’ pagan holiday. That simply isn’t true. I REFUSE to allow the devil to steal even a DAY that God created and gave to us! He’ll try and convince Christians that one day or another day is PAGAN. But that is a LIE from the pit. ALL DAYS belong to God because God CREATED THEM for HIS PLEASURE!

WOW. You don’t care if he is eligible to hold office by the Constitution? He will be ripped from office, one way or the other as JUSTICE demands. This EVIL Liar is going to be held to account, I can assure you. MILLIONS of dollars will make sure of that. U LOST retard. YOU can no longer post on this site with any truth or unction because YOU have been DESTYROYED. lol lol lol lol

Evil? Destroyed? Now, that is some self-righteous attribution of judging capacities. I can no longer post here? Watch me, old fart.

Is there a reason for you posting to me?
Rufree was commenting on cockroaches. I responded with my comment about cockroaches.
I haven’t said a word about Barry, where he was born, case law, blah, blah, blah. You’ll have to do your own homework and draw your own conclusions.

BTW: I hope you are not suggesting I’m an “Obama lover.”
You know what happens when you ASSUME, right? Hmmmm Thought so.
Next time don’t be so quick to jump the gun. You’ll be disqualified for a false start.

   Hehehe : Egg on my face on that one.   It did however seem like you were supporting RUFREE”S veiled attempt at vetting Obama’s qualifications as POTUS . 

   I apologize for not seeing you were speaking to RUFREE in Opposition to his problem of not being able to see how evil Obama is and how Obama has actually fooled so many of the Obamaroaches.

  Truce ?? 

Ahhh…that depends on you!
See I don’t know you… you are new here.
Also, I haven’t been following the argument that Rufree is making, so I’m not going to say one way or the other about the discussion.
That being said, I’ve known Rufree here much longer and we pretty much agree on many issues.
Also, I wasn’t speaking to him “in Opposition to his problem of not being able to see how evil Obama is and how Obama has actually fooled so many of the Obamaroaches.” I was speaking to him about the sudden influx of cockroaches on the site. For all we know, since you are an unknown, you could be another libtard troll.

Let’s give it a little time and see how things play out. But for the time-being, I’ll accept your offer of a truce.

Wow:  The link pretty well describes a attribute of  communistic dialog  which  I’ve been trying for years to Perfect. 

   That being  ” Diplomacy “ 

  Def: {Diplomacy}   One’s ability to tell someone to go to hell in such an eloquent fashion , That they look forward to the trip.

I’ve been here from the beginning but haven’t posted much until now.  This seeming capitulation by Glenn to the power crowd burst my bubble a little and I am spraying my perception of the truth  all over his online front porch,lol

I said, “with any truth or unction” you idiot…lol. You can always make posts that declare you idiocy. lol lol lol

You got me old man. March toward senility with the illusion you are so much better than libs.

I would think that “touching” on Obama’s Communist ties, associates and appintments would be enough to bring him down, but the country is asleep at the switch.  Commedians are even making jokes about his Red policies.

   Nope: I assure you that I am Not A Liberal troll . Nor , am I a Useful Idiot of either side.  I’m somewhat a Renegade that reads between the lines and pretty well .understands that some men’s nature is to to be as Obama is.  One real bad deal for all who don’t follow the indoctrinated lines of those so called Men of Gov.

   I ain’t no more than a Simple working man with a bad taste of Obamatitise in my Red Neck mouth.

    I also sometimes have a nasty habit of skimming other’s post and ending up with a foot in my mouth,. 
    These days it’s a tad to easy to be Real Defensive when I have seen how Dot Gov is nudging “We The People’ into a Socialist nation of Gov slavery and there doesn’t seem to be much that can be done to stop the Leader’s of “We The People” and their agenda short of ???   & what many also know from the History of socialism. 

    I refuse to be Meat on the Hoof for a bunch of Commie Pinkos and be lead into a pasture of Misery for / by  any SOB that knows nothing about what Freedom & Individualism means to me and my loved ones. 

   Just in case RUFREE is reading this post,  Once again it seems I created my own monster in getting on you without reading the entire post.  At least I hope I read it right the second time. 
   The case law listings seemed to be some sort of attempt at qualifying Obama at first reading. None the less, Imo; These case law postings do however say that Obama has Not proven citizenship and He never will because the Fraud doesn’t have to. 
    Thanks to the many many Liars & deceivers who are charged with the Duty to do so

  In short, i think I’ll shut this old shop down, head to the house, chill out & clean up , call  sweet thang , pick her up and go share a coke with Old Jack Daniels and dance sweetie’s feet off.  While it’s still Legal to do do so. 
    Obama’s BS only counts when I say so and tonight is not Obama’s night .

   Ya’ll have fun, I’m taking my Redneck azz to the dance hall.   

Sorry I postponed u, I had to finish some OS’s biz. This 316K makes up for last weeks 64K loss. The obama economy u know. I should have said 316K before onerous taxation. The bastards.
Anyway, I can enjoy this type of senility. By family health history, I have 30 years more to go, but we don’t know. That is why I I intend to work until I am 98 years old if I can, even if it is part time.
As Colonel Sanders said. “A man will rust out long before he wears out”. Life is good if you never intend to retire.

Come on Glenn, walk and chew gum.  He ruined the economy AND was never vetted for his citizenship!

Why Kenyan Birth Claim Was No ‘Fact Checking Error’
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/why_kenyan_birth_claim_was_no_fact_checking_error.html#ixzz1vMVd0TwD

Barack Obama: The Original Birther

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/05/barack_obama_the_original_birther.html

The Obama Deception HQ Full length version

http://youtu.be/eAaQNACwaLw

Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code states that a natural born citizen is ANYONE and EVERYONE born in the US and subject to US jurisdiction REGARDLESS of where the parents are born.  Now, if this issue is true, and Obama really was born in Kenya, that changes things.  However, there is even a clause in Section 1401 covering this case.  Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code states that  ”anyone born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)” is ALSO a natural born citizen.  Here’s a link for you.  
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html 

Now, either way, Obama IS a natural born citizen as defined by Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code created by Congress which has the Constitutional authority to define what makes one a natural born citizen.  So, either way, this is a non-issue true conservatives need to get beyond.  It’s a non-issue that makes true conservatives look crazy and make it harder for true conservatives to have any chance on election day.

Robinsthoughts, if that baby born of the illegal alien is SUBJECT TO THE US GOVERNMENT, than yes.  You see, a natural born citizen of the US, as defined by Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code as created by Congress who were given Constitutional authority to define a natural born citizen is ANYONE and EVERYONE born INSIDE the United States and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States REGARDLESS of where the parents were born.  The birthplace of the parents ONLY come into play if the person was NOT born inside the United States.  Here’s a link for you.
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html 

ANYONE who fits the 8 qualifications in Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code is considered to be a natural born citizen.  Look at the very first qualification.  It stands REGARDLESS of where the parents were born.

Glenn it is nice to take the bums word for it.. But what word? This guy is so full of it.. no wonder so much is under wraps.. I can just imagine that he took advantage like it  has been suggested  of foreign Student aid and on.. nothing but a hustler..

I wonder if moochie will be looking to dump him again,  anytime soon..
How humiliating  for his girls.
A wooden nickel for a father.

Daniel–You do not seem to realize that a native American citizen is not a NATURAL born citizen–that is why the distinction in the Constitution and the reason for the Supreme Court Definition in 1875 (see above).  It makes no difference where someone is born if both his parents are US Citizens–he is a NATURAL born citizen.  And although a mother could convey citizenship to a child born off our soil, provided she had 10 years residence in the USA, and 5 years of that consecutive after the age of 14–these were the rules in 1961–not now, so please do not tell me about the rules today, as they do not count (Dunham was 18 when the young O popped, so she could not convey citizenship).  

Cephyr13, DARoberts, svcassandra
Can’t reply directly to you, no reply tab, but you are all wrong about many things.
1. Never claimed to be a constitution expert, just studied and have a degree. I actually learned from the original documents and was always challenging my liberal professors with the facts
2. Never claimed to teach con law or anything else.
3. The Georgia case was NOT decided in favor of the citizens if you mean Farrar v. Obama (Office of State Administrative Hearings State of Georgia 2012).Administrative Law Judge Michael Malihi in Georgia decided a group of
eligibility challenge cases saying “The Indiana Court rejected the
argument that Mr. Obama was ineligible, stating that the children born
within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the
citizenship of their parents. … This Court finds the decision and
analysis of Ankeny persuasive.”
4. Unless Obama renounced his US citizenship at the age of 21, he is a natural born citizen if born on US soil and eligible, regardless of any acquired other citizenship of other countries.
5. If the Kenyan obama was really his father, he was not a british citizen in 1963, nor did his British citizenship up to that point confer on his purported son. Since the marriage was never legal and the divorce unnecessary, his Kenyan citizenship never could be conferred on his son, nor did any subsequent claim to dual citizenship strip the minor child of his US natural born status if he was born in the US.
6. No proof of SS# invalid; no proof of any of the criticisms leveled against Obama-wish there were, but I deal only in facts that can be substantiated.
7. There is no law, nor has there ever been, or even a court case precedent that requires 1 or even both parents of a natural born citizen to be a US citizen in order for the natural born citizen  to be eligible for the VP/PRes. I have posted a list of the definitive and cited precedents if you are willing to question your religiously held and unsupported beliefs.
8. I do not know the circumstances of the allegedly American Born cleric terrorist, but the principle of natural born citizenship would allow anyone born in the US who did not renounce his citizenship to be eligible if not electable. I am more concerned with the alleged natural born person who was raised in Saudi Arabia by radical muslim parents, who suddenly appeared in the US and is attached at the hip to Hillary Clinton our Sec of State, and who makes policy speeches for her.
Eligibility is a losing issue. His policies and agenda and record are the only issues we can defeat him on.

Nice. I probably have like 50 more years or so. How will they be? Would it be the liberal hell Beck fears for America? Or will the right-wing achieve the ethnic cleansing and fundamentalist nation it desires so much?

I’m with you, handsoffmyhealth.  It seems that these birthers don’t really care about Constitutional Law.  As much as I hate Obama, we need to attack him for what he really needs to be attacked for.  Making up an issue such as the real meaning of natural born citizenship just will not work and will make it that much harder for true conservatives to win any election because it makes them look just as crazy as their followers.  Here’s a link I try to give some.
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html 

Seems it doesn’t really work though.  The Constitution gives Congress the authority to define what makes one a natural born citizen.  Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code does just that.  ANYONE who falls under any one of those 8 categories there is considered by both the Legislative Branch and the Judicial Branch to be a natural born citizen and eligible for the Presidency.  The very first qualification is that the person be born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.  That is ALL.  It says nothing of the birthplace of the parents.  That only comes into play if the person was NOT born in the United States.  Regardless of that, if the person was not born in the US, one of the parents can be an alien of the US while the other parent must be a citizen of the US who has lived in the US for at least 5 years.  A child born in that case is considered to be a natural born citizen, as well.  It seems Constitutional Law is beyond these birthers.

 I appreciate your perspective, but I wasn’t trying to diminish your take but to affirm the fact that by virtue of my belief he was foreign born and attended Occidental College under a foreign exchange student grant claiming he was foreign born ( reason his transcripts have been scrubbed) and this present evidence with the biographical booklet exposer affirming his consistent claim in the past of being foreign born – that this is the true case for his disqualification for the office of the Presidency.

Again for your consideration:
Obama says he’s not American and born in Kenya

http://youtu.be/VUU1rGjFGms

Everyone who knows me, knows that I can be a smart-ss….O.K., always a smart-ss. But really guy, you need to get that (chip) boulder off your shoulder. I would say that 75% of life is what you make of it. Just stop and think…90% of all man’s problems are “people” related. I mean our delaings with other people. The other 10% can be dedicated to health or accidental things.
Frankly I am a realist. I see the world for what it is. The future is not bright “in this world anyway” for most people. That is just reality. But for many as in all past periods of time, things will be good to great.
I really don’t hate you, despite what you may think, heck I don’t even know you. But I can tell you that confidence it in what really is true, allows you a great mobility among other people, no matter their race or language.
I deal with people from all over the world and I can tell you that everywhere, truth is timeless.
I don’t know what you have been exposed to in life, but if you can have an honest gut-check to find out what is true in life, it is a start to a whole new life. I’ve helped many people along the way and I can say it is the best feeliong you can have in a fallen world. But I have also lost some, and it is gut-wrenching to the point where I pray to God to let me know where I went wrong. After a while I come to the realization that it is not for me to know now.
I do wish you well though…….even though I will beat you over the head with what I think is the truth.

Reading Glenn’s “view” is troublesome, for a very simple reason:  nothing provies his view wrong, the same problem the global warming people have. That, is simply not rational much less scientific analysis.
 
The great fictional detective Sherlock Holmes put it this way:
 
“It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts”
 
We see that here in both Glenn’s and interestingly Erick Erickson’s analysis, which is near word for word that of Glenn’s.  Syncronized statements is a red flag in the real world..
 
Sadly, Glenn’s analysis indicates that his mind is made up regardless of the evidence that is presented to him.  On this, no evidence will disprove his theory.  When contradictory evidence is presented, it is twisted  to fit. the theory.  He does not even consider that his theory might be incorrect and simply does not explain the facts.  No matter what, evidence ”SIMPLY CANNOT PROVE THIS!”
 
Now, the first victim of this is truth, which is all the birther “cult” wants. The truth, whatever that might be.  It is odd that neither Erickson or Beck call for an investigation to establish the truth objectively but ask us to relie on something tht no court would ever do–just accept someone’s word.
 
Because of this bias, the guilty are never brought to the bar of justice, and worse, the innocent are injured. We find all three of these in their articles on the breibart bio.

Both attack the “birther cult” who simply want the truth, with greater vehemence than they do Obama or those who assist him in perpetuating lies.

And THESE are our friends?

Occam’s razor – when faced with competing hypotheses, select the one that makes the fewest assumptions

O.K., now that I gave you a few minutes to think of what I said and what I really feel, let me give you my quick smart ass answer.
How ill those 50 or so years go? Well, if you spend them as a liberal, they will be hell. But you can change that.

You’re an ignorant little piss-ant who thinks that Glenn Beck gives a crap about idiots like you who have an actual unhealthy fixation with another man and a dangerous fixation with little children.
Take your lunacy somewhere else, normal people don’t really care for your hate mongering.

 Well, the Beck censors must have scrubbed my last reply because of the video link I posted.  I’ll try again
Obama says he’s not American and born in Kenya
http://youtu.be/VUU1rGjFGms

My basic issue was that Obama by his own words, his own record of applying for a foreign exchange student grant to attend Occidental College as an undergraduate(which he did and all transcript have been scrubbed) then now we see he continued to claim his foreign born status with the 1991 biographical booklet I believe he was foreign born.  If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck – I say it must be a Duck.  The man is a fraudulent, treasonous, criminal – not the legitimate president of the USA!!!

AP also wrote that Kenyan-born Obama was all set for for US Senate, dated June 27th, 2004. Glen shocks me when the constitution is so blatantly ignored and he just accepts it as fine and dandy..

Glenn beck is a shitbird! Why does he ignore sheriff Joe’s evidence of fraud?? Why does he throw a man with a life long career in law enforcement under the buss? Glenn Beck is a shitbird!

My friend. I disagree. My life experience gives me the premises for such argument. My life has been, liberal as may be, one awesome adventure after the other. I am working hard, earning and saving money. I’m in a healthy and stable relationship, and my artistic and academic endeavors continually offer me peer recognition as well as hardships that challenge me to grow, learn and enjoy solving problems. At the moment I prepare a paper I will be presenting in Europe. I’m going thanks to my hard work. Your last comment made me respect you. However, this one shows me, besides your smart ass nature, a dirty spot in your otherwise admirable life. Let me point it out: those who not live by your standards don’t necessarily suffer, not are they intrinsically wrong or have miserable life. That is exactly what is wrong with Beck’s mentality. God has allowed a world of many paths to him. The reason I’m here is because I get enjoyment out of pointing that out. People don’t have to follow your exact path to learn what you have learned. The hell you think I will have is your prejudice getting the best of you. For that itty bitty crap in your thought process, I pity you. For the rest, I admire you.

Please allow this old man a chance to test himself. Years ago I made a living in the biz in very “touchy” situations. It was my business to be able to measure people on a short meeting. I must say I was rather good at it. I am quite rusty at it though I use it in my current business. I did find it difficult to measure people by mere written correspondence. Would you indulge an old man and let me take a stab at it, to give a brief bio? If so answer the following questions as brif as possible. One word is best.
1 Christian.
2 Rabbi
3 Chinese
4 Dane
5 Happy
6 Love
7 Money
8 Tiger
9 Monkey
10 God

I wonder if every Republican controlled state insists that the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, Lorretta Cuddy, put her personal guarantee on a certification that Obama’s birth certificate is authentic, whether those states could then legally refuse to allow Obama on the ballot if she refuses? If she does nothing lost, but if she refuses, it could give Obama heartburn.

*I’m fairly sure that someone on his staff reads them, and if the comment concerns him, he’ll most likely get the message.

No, I’m not into role playing nor talking to myself, so if this is an exercise in futility, then so is the effort of anyone to express their opinion on a web page, including your answer to me.
*

Sure. Glad to be of service. But you have to be clearer about what you want me to do. Is this a one word association kind of thing?

 Born on US soil equals natural born citizen equals eligibility for Pres/vp. Born on foreign soil of 2 US citizens equals natural born citizen, eligible for Pres/vp.
native vs natural is a distinction without a difference, as the terms were used interchangeably for a long time. The rest about citizenship from mother while mostly accurate, is irrelevant.
a chain of court cases, from 1804-current, legal opinions and failed court challenges to Obama’s eligibility have established
1. born on US soil, regardless of citizenship of parents, confers natural born citizenship and eligibility.
2. foreign born of 2 US citizens confers natural born citizenship and eligibility.
3. Dual or triple citizenship as a minor does not take away natural born status unless at  age 21 you renounce your citizenship in the US. Another country claiming you under  Jus sanguinis does not deny you your birthright natural born status and eligibility  in the US.

The damage has been done, the courts have ruled in Obama’s favor. Trying to prove he was not born on US soil is a lost and losing issue. His credibility, failed administration, agenda, competence still are issues that handled correctly rationally and logically may be winners.

Not one word, although if it can be said in one word, that would be best. This is a test of ME, not of You. I am testing my skills as a quick measure so to speak. If you need mre than one word then do so. I will say that I have 10 more final words. But I am supposed to be able to do my biz with the first 10, but I’m not as young or sharp as I used to be. It’s up to you.

Glenn is concerned about the birthers taking attention away from the economy? All Obama and his operatives have to do is throw some ridiculous accusation out there and every genius conservative talk show host spends the next three weeks talking about nothing but. Glenn, if conservative media is going to continue chasing every Obama bone, then I prefer it be something of substance rather than the crap they continuously talk about now. What is wrong with conservatives. Every time I hear them spend hours on the radio rationalizing why we really don’t hate women, or gays or whatever crap Liberals choose to throw out, I think about the thousands of hours of air-time that could be spent on the real record of this creep, Obama, and it makes me sick.

This case is not cited as precedent or controlling for the issue of being born on US soil conferring natural born citizenship and eligibility regardless of parentage.
There are 2 conditions for natural born citizenship and eligibility one is being born on foreign soil of 2 US citizens. The other is being born on US soil, regardless of parentage  citizenship. Rubio and Jindal also qualify under born on US soil.

So, you want me to define the terms? Is that it? (it’s not entirely clear if that is the case)

God warned his people not to inquire after the pagans about their “holy days” and customs in order to borrow them to worship God. God gave us holy days which he commanded us to keep forever. Pagan holidays cannot be “baptized”. Your argument leads one to the conclusion that there are “many roads to Jesus”, which is purely wrong, else we wouldn’t have been warned about people preaching another Jesus and another gospel. Yes, Jesus created the universe at the command of God the Father, but He did not create EVIL, nor did He create contradiction. 

I am sitting in my house, at my computer, in my town.  Jesus created the universe. He created all the atoms and subatomic particles in it.  He created human beings and gave them the power to be creative, using the “building blocks” He had already created.  My house was built by carpenters from stone made by God, from wood created by God and cut down by men, shaped by men, etc etc etc.  Jesus originated these things.  It was given to men to make something else of them, good or bad, just as everything else was given. 

In your philosophy, because Jesus was the Creator of the Universe, then Jesus automatically created paganism. He created the worship of trees, the worship of the sun, the worship of fertility goddesses, and human sacrifices, and contradicted the commandment that we are to have no strange gods before Him. Not Satan, who lies and deceives and wants to destroy that which he knows God loves, and not wicked men, influenced by Satan, who preyed on the fears of others by casting themselves as priests and kings under these false gods.  In your belief, the Aztecs cut out the living hearts of their fellow men for Jesus, witches hold sexual rituals for the Word’s viewing pleasure, and the laws of God are null and void even though Jesus expressly said they were not! You are calling good “evil”, and evil “good”. You are doing your own “interweaving”.

I said this was a test of me, not you. If you give too much info, it negates the measuring at first glance or on a brief meeting. But if you give a lot of info, it will not have the same effect if I am accurate. See what I mean?

Got it.

1 Christian – a follower of Jesus Christ’s teachings.
2 Rabbi – wise man guiding the Jewish people.
3 Chinese – a strong, proud, ancient culture from which the West can learn much.
4 Dane – the nationality of one of my favorite semiotic theoreticians.
5 Happy – being in harmony with destiny.
6 Love – giving all without expecting anything back.
7 Money – a medium of acquisition.
8 Tiger – a feline predator.
9 Monkey – funny.
10 God – everything, love, creator.

I’m afraid I have to disagree with Glenn for the first time. I think the agent knew he was born in Kenya and thought it was cool for his image. I don’t think either one of them at the time thought about the possibility of him being president. If we can prove this to be true, it is God’s way of giving us an “out” for this whole presidency. It would in fact Erase anything that was signed by Obama.The whole presidency would have to be eliminated from history.

Someone should really clue Glenn in as to how important this is to our past, present and future!!

Not quite what I had in mind but not too bad. Although I was not loking for a dictionary meaning, but one word you use to express your feelings of it. But no matter.
Try these
#1clean
#2cut
#3fun
#4sad
#5heal
#6duty
#7 responsibility
#8 fresh
#9 stale
#10 end

 Many SC and other court cases have stated that birth on US soil confers natural born citizenship and eligibility for Pres/vp. (lynch, ark, ankenny) regardless of parentage. If foreign born, to be natural born, your parents have to both be US citizens (only one under certain conditions).
A minor cannot lose his natural born status because he acquires dual citizenship through a parent. He has to make the decision when age 21.
A minor cannot and does not give up his citizenship in US just because a parent, especially an adopted one, has citizenship in another country.

To Discus et al–
MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.[UPDATED: Dec. 27, 2011 - See green text below regarding SCOTUS syllabus.  I have made corrections as explained below to my own error on the topic.][This is a follow up to my last report, US SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT STATES THAT OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. ][UPDATED - 8:32 PM June 24, 2011. Updated material appears below in red.]Since my last report, many people have asked why the definition in Minor v. Happersett of a “natural-born citizen” (as a person born in the US to parents who are citizens) is binding legal precedent.  The answer is in the Court’s holdingthat Virginia Minor was a US citizen…because she was born in the US to parents who were citizens.  That part of the actual holding is listed in the official syallbus of the case.And furthermore, Minor was the first case to hold that women are equal citizens to men.  To this day, that case is still cited as the first US Supreme Court decision which recognized that women were, in fact, citizens.  It is still precedent for that determination.  Google [ "minor v happersett" "women are citizens"  ] and review the results.  A multitude of articles discuss the holding of Minor – that women are US citizens.But most important is the case itself.  The official syllabus written by the US Supreme Court, which states: .   The syllabus and/or headnote for each case isnot written by the US Supreme Court.   See the following official SCOTUSdisclaimer:NOTE: Where it is feasible, a syllabus (headnote) will be released, as is being done in connection with this case, at the time the opinion is issued. The syllabus constitutes no part of the opinion of the Court but has been prepared by the Reporter of Decisions for the convenience of the reader. See United States v. Detroit Timber & Lumber Co., 200 U.S. 321, 337 .)Back in the 19th century the official court reporter created headnotes more often than a syllabus, but neither have ever been considered to be law or were ever written by the court.  I made an error in this post and have therefore corrected it, while leaving the original mistake for historical accuracy.    The syllabus for MInor v. Happersett states:“1. The word “citizen ” is often used to convey the idea of membership in a nation.2. In that sense, women, if born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction of the United States, have always been considered citizens of the United states, as much so before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution as since.”  (Emphasis added.)That’s a These are direct holdings of the case.  Hence, it is they are stated at the the top of the syllabus.  (In this case, that syllabus reflects the holdings of the case.  Regardless, I must reiterate that the syallbus is not law.  As you will see below, the syllabus in this case stated these points clearly, but the headnotes are private property of the court reporter and are not included in the opinion of the case or as law.  Had the headnote misinterpreted the law or facts, as is sometimes the case, this would have been more problematic, but in the case of Minor v. Happersett, the reporter got it right.)It is incorrect to state that Mrs. Minor lost the case entirely.  This is not true.  The US Supreme Court did not hold that the Constitution granted voting rights to men while denying such rights to women.  The Court in Minor held that the Constitution did not grant anybody a right to vote, man or woman.But in doing so, the US Supreme Court first had to determine if Mrs. Minor was a US citizen.  The Court’s holding states that she was a US citizen because she was born in the US to parents who were citizens.The Court also held that the Constitution did not grant anyone a right to vote.  So, our country chose to amend the Constitution by the 19th Amendment and thereafter all citizens were directly granted a right to vote by the Constitution.The 19th Amendment did not create a right to vote in the Constitution, the Amendment only protects against discrimination based upon sex once a state has granted persons the right to vote.  This is an important distinction in that Minor v. Happersett’s ruling on voting rights is still good law and has not been superseded by the 19th Amendment.But the Court in Minor did make a direct holding that Mrs. Minor was, in fact, a US citizen.  The Court established her citizenship by definining the “class” of  “natural-born citizens” as those born in the US to parents who were citizens.  Then the Court included Virginia Minor in that class thereby deeming her to be a US citizen.  And they did this by specifically avoiding the 14th Amendment and by specifically construing Article 2 Section 1.Before moving on to the issue of whether citizens have the right to vote, the Supreme Court in Minor stated their holding as to the citizenship of Mrs. Minor (and therefore as to all women and men):“The Fourteenth Amendment did not affect the citizenship of women any more than it did of men. In this particular, therefore, the rights of Mrs. Minor do not depend upon the amendment. She has always been a citizen from her birth and entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizenship. The amendment prohibited the state, of which she is a citizen, from abridging any of her privileges and immunities as a citizen of the United States, but it did not confer citizenship on her. That she had before its adoption.”  (Emphasis added.)The independent ground the Court used to determine that Virginia Minor was a US citizen is stated as follows:“Additions might always be made to the citizenship of the United States in two ways: first, by birth, and second, by naturalization. This is apparent from the Constitution itself, for it provides that ‘No person except a natural-born citizen or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution shall be eligible to the office of President,’ …“The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens. “  (Emphasis added.)Read that passage very carefully, and you will see that the US Supreme Court clearly defined “natural-born citizen” by two independent remarks:1.  “…all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.”  First, the Court states that these persons are “citizens”.  But then it makes a second statement about this class -2. “These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”  This class of citizens are part of a class defined as “natural-born citizens”.  They are citizens, natural-born.  This distinguishes them from all other citizens.  If this were not the case, it would have been sufficient for the Court to stop at the first statement concerning their citizenship.But the Court didn’t stop there. Because the Court was avoiding the 14th Amendment, the Court went to the second step and defined this class to be different from all other citizens.  This class did not require the 14th Amendment to be US citizens.Whether persons born in the US to non-citizen parents were “citizens” was not a question before the Minor Court because Mrs. Minor was natural-born, whereas Wong Kim Ark was not.  The determination of his citizenship required the 14th Amendment, whereas Mrs. Minor’s did not.It was held that Mrs. Minor was a US citizen – as the syllabus states in point 2 –because she was born in the US to parents who were citizens.  This was the independent ground that springs forth precedent.  (See Ogilvie Et Al., Minors v. United States, 519 U.S. 79 at 84 (1996)).

Alright. This is kinda fun. One word (mostly)

#1clean – clear
#2cut – sharp
#3fun – free
#4sad – clouded
#5heal – regenerate
#6duty – hard
#7 responsibility – a must
#8 fresh – water
#9 stale – grey and insipid
#10 end – purpose

Kenya became a republic about 1963. No more British citizenship. The act itself was being phased out in 1962-the Brits found it not to be in their best interest to give commonwealth citizenship status to African colonies.

If the person is born outside the United States, the person is still considered a natural born citizen if one of the parents is an alien and the other is a United States citizen who has lived in the United States for at least 5 years.  This, too, would still be sufficient enough to cover Obama even if he were born in Kenya, making it even more of a non-issue really.

That position is not supported by the constitution, laws on naturalization, court decisions, legal opinions or commonsense. US common law regarding citizenship is jus soli, place of birth. The US has never conferred citizenship jus sanguinis, except as necessary when an American citizen gives birth on foreign soil.
Where do you get this misinformation? 
It boggles my mind that you are so misinformed and adamant in your ignorance.

O.K. This is a quick refernce report I would have made upon first encounter. Please don’t be offended if by completely wrong off the wall measure. It is not my intention to do so, but this is what I would report.

Gender: Male
Age: 25-35
sexual orientation: Gay possibly Bi
place of residence: Northwest U.S.A
ethnic origin: Jewish from middle=east, possible Russia
religion: Zen Buddhist
sport likes, basketball and handball
quirks. left handed and hates broccoli
Relationships: Estranged from father, strong relations with siblings and mother. Loves music.

 I did not have to produce a birth certificate to receive my SS benefits. I did not have to produce a birth certificate or any id to register to vote.

A minor child’s natural born status cannot be erased because of acquiring a dual citizenship through adoption or alien parent. He only loses US citizenship if at the age of 21, he renounces his US citizenship. Unless the document in Indonesian is forged, his birthplace is listed as HI. He is, by jus soli, a natural born citizen of the US and thus eligible for election to Pres/vp. This is unfortunate, because of his upbringing and actions, but it is the law.

Wow, I must have been way off for you to have not resonded to me. Sorry if I got you wrong, I told you I was not as good at the corresponce method. Please accept my apology, I did not mean to offend you.

 Fraud is a reason to remove him from office, and those who conspired with him.. 

Obama, from the White House declared the 2nd ‘Birth Certificate’ to be his on National TV…  

Sense then, professionals in Documents authentication have judged it to be a poorly done Fraudulent Document.. 

He was Never Vetted by the Senate as was demanded of John McCain as to Constitutional compliance.. 

The DNC leader in 2008 gave two different versions of Certification to States as to his eligibility to run for President.  To Hawaii she declared that the DNC found Obama to be in compliance with the Constitutional requirements..  To all the rest of the States she declared that Obama met DNC requirements…  Why did Nancy Pelosi feel the need to make two different declarations?  Was it self protection in case the “house of Cards” in this Fraud came tumbling down, she would only be held accountable for “1″ count of Fraud instead of 50? 

And even if he was born here,  there are legitimate questions regarding his renouncing his U.S. Citizenship in order to attend school in Malaysia as was required..

There is plenty of reasons that a FEDERAL Investigation should be undertaken..  The question really is, why hasn’t there been.. 

If this were a republican white President, you know the Dems, Media and Hollywood would all be up demanding the Department of Justice, FBI, CIA and anyone else they could think of to investigate this White Right Wing FRAUD…

thanks, I wasn’t sure. I thought I remembered something about not being able to have a US passport if I held a passport from another country?

Nice to see someone else saying this. thanks

I think you’re on to something there. When all else fails, Jack Daniels is a good friend to have. Just toured the Distillery a few months back. Lynchburg Tn is off the beaten path, but well worth the trip. Dont let the politics ruin your weekend. Have a good time while you can!

How and why the way was paved for Obama to even be in contention for Presidency, is the point that is lost in the whole commentary by Glenn. It took multiple attempts to modify the language, laying the ground work  for him or any succeeding president not eligible, to become President.  

If Romney succeeds Obama, and that is a big if, considering the outsourcing of election ballots counts and numerous other areas this presidency has put into place to accomplish his and others goals of overthrow of our great Nation, what do we replace him with? A man not eligible, and with a record that mirrors Obama’s.

The question in my mind is: “Why has Glenn chosen to overlook Romney’s dismal record? Why
create all these diversions from the truth of Romney’s ineligibility and record? We get enough of that from multiple other news sources…”

I don’t get what you understood. Although I do appreciate the apology. Receive one back. I have nothing but respect for wise older man. Dang. I have to admit. Out of all my exchanges with people here in Beck’s little virtual world, the ones I have with you always give me hope that, in spite of the stark differences between left and right, there is always a way in which balance can be achieved. I do not presuppose you opine the same. It’s just my take. I’ve been working on my paper all day and multitasking chatting here. One never knows where surprise will show. Have a good weekend.

when this story broke i knew people were going to take it the wrong way. obviously he had this written about him to promote himself in 1991. in no way does this prove the birther movement. for more about this check out this link. http://spugdence.blogspot.com/2012/05/kenya.html

 SS numbers did not exist in the 1800′s..not until the act was passed. Where do you get such nonsense and what is your proof?

Thanks Barbie. So there is one and it would be interesting to see if it was a match. What’s the odds of that happening (that’s rhetorical & not a serious question). ;o)

It is an old technique, probably worthless these days. My point in all of my corresponding is truth. 1 Corintians 13 is called the love chapter. I do love it so, although not as much as Romans. But it tells us how much love is out there, if we only choose to grab hold of it. No person is beyond that love. It saved me from the depths of despair many years ago. It gave me a strenght and power I did not know existed or was possible. I no longer believe, I KNOW, because it is written within me. Again. I am sorry if my bio was offenesive, I am sure it weas just as inaccurate now as in the past. I told you I was not good at it.

Not only that, but what mayo3dill claims is extremely sexist.  US Law doesn’t care much for the sex of the parent.  Obama inherited his mother’s citizenship with the US.  That’s what matters to US Law.  US Law has a tendency to not actually be sexist these days.  There’s a reason Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code left the sex of the parent out in its list of qualifications to be considered a natural born citizen of the United States, lol.  It just doesn’t matter what the sex of the US citizen parent is.

I most certainly am NOT calling evil good and good evil! The world fell when Adam sinned and ALL was corrupted. But scripture says that ‘God owns the cattle on a thousand hills’ just the same. Are those cows corrupted? Yes, as are ALL things on earth. Is scripture ‘contradicting itself’? Absolutely NOT. You’re ignoring the fact that ALL THINGS were created for GOD’S pleasure and NOT mans. All things are STILL for God’s pleasure. The fact that mankind has perverted so much of what God created is beside the point. God created geodes and crystals, things of great beauty that for perhaps millions of years ONLY God saw (and enjoyed seeing). Along came man somewhere in history and discovered these beautiful creations. Now mankind can also enjoy their beauty. Sadly Pagans, Witches, ‘New ‘Old’ Agers’, etc come along and give spiritual attributes to these things, believing they have some special ‘power’ and use them in their various forms of idolatry and strange worship.

Does that mean that no one should collect them to enjoy their beauty? Does that mean that by having them in ones home as objects of beauty in a collection the person collecting them (who ascribes NO spiritual significance to them) shouldn’t HAVE them. The answer is NO. If in your belief system the grace of God isn’t enough to ‘cover you’ (which would in essence nullify the very blood that Jesus shed for us!) I would encourage you to take a close look at what you really believe. Before you start interpreting and JUDGING another Christians faith as no more than those who worship(ed) false Gods and cut out HEARTS (how dare you) you should look closely at your own motives and beliefs.

In reply to One Man Army,
I went to this .gov site,
http://uscode.house.gov/pdf/2010/2010usc08.pdf
1401 is about Citizenship not natural born citizens.
Man there is a pile of reading in that pdf
Please use the actual document not something that can be edited when and by whoever pleases.
Ponds done, lawn mowed, plants watered, coffee time again.

Who cares about the birthers, or who cares about people thinking Obama is Muslim, Tea Party, Christians etc.

Anyone who is not against us is for us. – Jesus

 They also believe that America (the U.S.) is the ‘promised land’ rather than Israel.
That is a REAL stretch of the imagination AND in direct OPPOSITION to the Bible
(uh hum…. in direct opposition to the REAL Bible)!

 Well there WAS Breitbart. But of course he is ‘conveniently’ dead.

To be able to go to school in Indonesia you must become a citizen and relinquish all other citizenships. 

 First pray that he DOESN’T get re-elected. Then hopefully his illegal activities while ‘in office’ can be corrected!

Glenn, does Tania have a fake birth certificate? I’m guessing she probably does not….or do you just blow off the findings of the Maricopa County, Az. sheriff whose investigators concluded that Obamas’ documentation is likely fraudulent? Or, is it your position that, even if the documents are fake, just vote him out? What if he wins reelection…by whatever means? And a final question; if eligibility doesn’t matter to you, what other parts of the Constitution don’t you care about? Just askin’.

In reply to Robinsthoughts.

WRONG.  As you say, “Please use the actual document not something that can be edited when and by whoever pleases.”  You see, the site I linked you to used the ACTUAL document.  You also TOTALLY failed to actually read the document you linked to, which stated EXACTLY the same thing that I linked to.

Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code states, and I quote verbatim EXACTLY what it states here, “The following shall be nationals and citizens
of the United States AT BIRTH:”  Do you realize what citizens of the United States AT BIRTH means?  The AT BIRTH of the title there means NATURAL BORN.  You see, a citizen of the United States AT BIRTH is a NATURAL BORN citizen.  What this means to dimwitted people like yourself is that ANYONE and EVERYONE who falls into any of the 8 categories following that statement IS a NATURAL BORN citizen because they are a citizen of the United States AT BIRTH.

Now, if Obama was born in Hawaii, he falls under the very first category, thus making him a natural born citizen.  If, on the other hand, he actually was born in Kenya, he still falls under the seventh category, thus still making him a natural born citizen.  Quit grasping at straws and start using REAL arguments, please.  Actually READ the document, please.  It proves you birthers to be TOTAL nuts on the outset.

Robinsthoughts, again, that document is NOT just about citizenship as you ignorantly presume.  It is about citizenship AT BIRTH.  It is about NATURAL BORN citizenship.  You see, Congress specifically created Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code to define what makes one a natural born citizen.  That is why they created that section to begin with.  They created that section to end the stupid argument and finally define natural born citizenship once and for all.  That is the ENTIRE point behind the creation of Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code, for crying out loud.  You really need to quit being so ignorant and get your basic facts straight.

Besides, Robinsthoughts, if Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code was merely describing citizenship, they would not have included AT BIRTH in the description.  You see, a citizen AT BIRTH is a NATURAL BORN citizen.  If you are a citizen AT BIRTH in the US, you were NATURALLY BORN in the US.  That is why they added the AT BIRTH in the description in Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code.  They added AT BIRTH to show that it’s not mere citizenship but that it’s NATURAL BORN citizenship.  You just proved here that you have poor reading comprehension skills, you know.

 Yep, when Romney pulled the ‘I choose to take the higher road’ PC attitude my hopes pretty much fell. MAYbe (I PRAY!) Romney will listen to ‘we the PEOPLE’ and decide exposing Obama for the fraud he is would be the BETTER direction to take. Perhaps if everyone wanting to RID our nation of the fraud in office would go onto Romney’s web site (I’m assuming there’s one, haven’t checked that out) and TELL HIM he better get serious about VETTING Obama and going AFTER him with BOTH BARRELS, then MAYbe he’d get the message and start acting like a serious candidate. One CAN hope!

I completely agree. All of “The 7″ was Babylonian/Egyptian magic school techniques.
I was furious. I marked ever page with notes…New Age.
After 35 years in the area called the “mind sciences” I KNOW that stuff well.
There is a radio show called Understanding The Times with Jan Markell (a messianic Jewish Lady) that is very good.She’s better than Glenn. She listened to Glenn and she saw that he started going off the rails as well.

http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/understanding-the-times/

No use wasting your time here e-mail him at….
 me@glennbeck.com

 You stated it correctly by saying all we want is the TRUTH. I’ve prayed so many times about what is happening in the U.S. with so much of that being about Obama. My prayer has been (besides pleading that God will show America mercy by removing Obama from his position) that God will bring FORTH the TRUTH. If by some reason the TRUTH turned out to be that Obama is legitimately POTUS then I’d except that and DEAL with that. On the other hand if Obama IS indeed (as I believe) a fake, a usurper, a fraud and NOT legitimately POTUS then I want THAT truth to be exposed completely. But as we all know (well…. MANY of us know) Obama has spent close to $2,000,000 to HIDE ‘the TRUTH’ what ever it is. There’s something REALLY bad about Obama’s truth, something SO BAD he’ll do ANYTHING to keep it locked up tight and HIDDEN.

Hmmm… what ever could that be??

Robinsthoughts, here is a list of people and cases that differ from you idiotic and ignorant belief that natural born only refers to those born in this country of two parents who were born in this country.

John Bingham

Edward Bates

former U.S. Secretary of State, William Learned Marcy in the 1850s

former U.S. Attorney General Edwards Pierrepont in the 1870s

William Rawle U.S. Attorney for Pennsylvania between 1791 and 1799.  In a treatise written by him, he states, and I quote verbatim, “Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity.”

Now, how about some court decisions that go against your ignorant opinion.

Here is the decision reached in the Lynch vs Clarke case of 1844.
“Suppose a person should be elected president who was native born, but of alien parents; could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the Constitution? I think not. The position would be decisive in his favor, that by the rule of the common law, in force when the Constitution was adopted, he is a citizen.”
“Upon principle, therefore, I can entertain no doubt, but that by the law of the United States, every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, is a natural born citizen. It is surprising that there has been no judicial decision upon this question.”
Notice how they say EVERY person born within the US NO MATTER what the situation of the parents is, IS a natural born citizen.  This is the case cited as the precedent for cases that follow regarding one’s natural born citizenship.

The same EXACT conclusion was reached in the 1880s regarding a Chinese child who was born in the US.

In the US Supreme Court case of Perkins v. Elg in 1939, the Swedish girl in question was constantly referred to as a natural born citizen despite the fact that neither of her parents were born here.  The court even referred back to Steinkauler’s Case back in 1875 and included the comment that the person born in America and raised in another country could yet “become President of the United States.”

Some more recent opinions that flat out disagree with your ignorant one.

Black’s Law Dictionary has a very simple definition of natural born citizen.  It is this, “A person born within the jurisdiction of a national government.”  No mention of parents’ birthplace there, lol.

A memorandum to Congress in 2009 states, “Considering the history of the constitutional qualifications provision, the common use and meaning of the phrase “natural-born subject” in England and in the Colonies in the 1700s, the clause’s apparent intent, the subsequent action of the first Congress in enacting the Naturalization Act of 1790 (expressly defining the term “natural born citizen” to include a person born abroad to parents who are United States citizens), as well as subsequent Supreme Court dicta, it appears that the most logical inferences would indicate that the phrase “natural born Citizen” would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “at birth” or “by birth.”
Notice how they equate citizenship at birth DIRECTLY to mean natural born citizenship.  Sheds some more light on why they added AT BIRTH to Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code now, doesn’t it, lol.

On and on and on I can go describing how just flat out incredibly wrong you are.  Obama’s citizenship status is a non-issue.  It does NOTHING but make it difficult for TRUE conservatives to get elected because it makes TRUE conservatives look as crazy as those idiot birthers who follow them.  Attack Obama for his idiot policies, please.  Attacking him for something that has been explained MORE THAN 150 years ago that you are on the wrong side of to boot is even more idiotic than Obama’s policies.

 Are you responding to my ‘response’ to Jim James? Also, is Jan Markell the woman who condemns EVERY Bible translation except the King James? Or am I thinking of another woman in the ministry?

You forgot John McCain.

Really, what did he say on the matter? I was merely listing those whose opinions on natural born citizenship meant those born in the US at birth. Now, of course McCain falls under the provisions listed under Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code, but I didn’t realize he gave an actual opinion on the matter as well.

I went on the “here is a list of people” part. John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone to a serving US Naval Admiral. He is still an American, and not a Panamanian. The same goes for Juan Williams, who was also born in the canal zone.

Yes. That’s why I said he fits in the provisions given under Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code. However, that wasn’t really the list I was trying to pull together. I was merely listing the opinions of those who actually mattered in this particular argument and whose very opinions shaped what the US considers to be the definition of natural born citizenship as stated in the Constitution. If Obama were born in Hawaii, he fits the very same provision that make me a natural born citizen under Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code. If, however, he was actually born in Kenya, since his mother was a US citizen who has most likely lived in this country for at least 5 years, Obama would still fit the 7th provision under Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code, so he would still be considered a natural born citizen Constitutionally speaking. So, either way, it really is a moot point and we need to argue against him with something that is actually worthy of the argument, like his policies, which are nothing but abysmal. The whole birther argument takes us all away from the real problems surrounding Obama and his failed policies and will make it that much more difficult for a true conservative to step forward and reverse Obama’s failed policies.

one man army,

You have your opinion, I have mine.
You want to play the name calling game, have fun.
 
Your words “Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code states, and I quote verbatim
EXACTLY what it states here, “The following shall be nationals and
citizens
of the United States AT BIRTH:”"

Yes, Nationals and citizens, not “natural born Citizen”.
Now go read the constitutional requirements for the senate and congressional seats it will note “citizen”, then go read the President and Vice President requirements, it will note “natural born citizen”.

The Supreme Court in Minor specifically avoided construing the 14th Amendment as to the issue of whether Virginia Minor was a US citizen.  Instead, the Court looked no further than the natural-born citizen clause in Article 2 Section 1.  The Court held that Minor was a member of the “class” of persons who were natural-born citizens.  They defined this class as those born in the US to “parents” (plural) who were citizens. 
The Court also noted that the “citizenship” of those born to non-citizen parents was subject to doubt.  Since Virginia Minor was in the class of natural-born citizens, that doubt didn’t need to be resolved.  The Court exercised judicial restraint and thereby avoided construction of the 14th Amendment as to the citizenship issue.
Such avoidance and restraint were called for.  In order for the Court to act, there must be a genuine controversy with regard to the laws in question.  Since there was no controversy before the Court involving a 14th Amendment citizenship issue, the Court decided the issue on other grounds, specifically Article 2 Section 1.
Now we turn to US v. Wong Kim Ark.  In that case, the US Supreme Court held that (some) persons born in the United States of alien parents were “citizens”.  In doing so, the Court stated that it was specifically construing only the 14th Amendment.  And here lies the rub of clarity:
If Wong Kim Ark had been a natural-born citizen, the Supreme Court would never have reached the 14th Amendment issue (just as it didn’t reach it in Minor.)
That statement is a perfectly true mantra.  Read it again… and again, until it sinks in.  Then share the mantra.  There is no antidote for it.  There is never an antidote for truth.
THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN CLAUSE HAS NOT BEEN AMENDED OR REPEALED.

Minor and Wong Kim Ark were both decided years after the 14th Amendment had been adopted.  Minor avoided construing the 14th Amendment, while Wong Kim Ark required it.  Since Wong Kim Ark was not a natural-born citizen under Article 2 Section 1, the Supreme Court looked to the 14th Amendment to grant him citizenship.
The 14th Amendment did not repeal or amend Article 2 Section 1 (but it did repeal part of Article 1 Section 2).  Furthermore, while other parts of Article 2 Section 1 have been amended (by the 12th and 25th Amendments), the natural-born citizen clause has never been amended.

Thus why, like you, I argue against his policies.

And that’s why I like you. You’re not a stupid birther, lol.

And that’s why I like you. You’re not a stupid birther. I just can’t see why birthers can’t seem to accept what both the Legislative and Judicial Branches of the government have accepted for about 2 centuries now. I mean, the precedent was set back in 1844 that ANYONE born in the US, regardless of where the parents were born, is a natural born citizen. That precedent was followed and upheld in just about every court case that followed. That’s what makes the whole birther argument null and void. Than came Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code, which was Congress’s attempt to clearly define a “citizen of the United States at birth,” which, in the eyes of Congress, clearly meant natural born citizen. That should have finally put the idiotic argument to rest, but it didn’t. It still goes on. Why? It’s a non-issue today.

Robinsthoughts, again you prove that you have a TOTAL lack of reading comprehension abilities.

It doesn’t matter if you went to the government site or the site I linked you to.  They say the EXACT SAME THING.  Here, let me state it again.  Pay attention this time, son.  Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code states, and I quote VERBATIM, WORD FOR WORD, EXACTLY what it states ”The following shall be nationals and  citizens of the United States AT BIRTH:”  You apparently have NO clue what the AT BIRTH part of that statement means.  The AT BIRTH means NATURAL BORN.  It is NOT defining citizens as you ignorantly presume.  It is defining citizens AT BIRTH, or NATURAL BORN citizens.  Clearly, you choose to remain a fool.

Even the information you state from the court cases is wrong.  For instance, in Wong Kim Arks case, the Supreme Court held to the precedent set in 1844 by a similar case that EVERYONE born in the US, REGARDLESS of where the parents were born, IS a natural born citizen.  That was the actual RECORDED decision of the Supreme Court in that case.  All you’re doing now is misconstruing what the actual case itself says, which just so happens to be a left wing tactic.  Good job showing where your true colors lie.  In their decision in this case, the Supreme Court held that Wong Kim Ark had indeed acquired U.S. citizenship AT BIRTH.  The key word here, son, is AT BIRTH.  You see, when the words AT BIRTH are added by the Supreme Court and Congress like that, it means they are SPECIFICALLY referring to NATURAL BORN citizens and not just mere citizens.  You see, a United States citizen AT BIRTH is a NATURAL BORN United States citizen.  What of that are you not getting.  There are citizens, and than there are citizens AT BIRTH.  You clearly have reading comprehension issues you need to fix.  You may have your opinion, but the opinions of those who actually matter, who actually set the very definition of a natural born citizen. COMPLETELY and TOTALLY, WITHOUT A DOUBT, 100% disagree with YOU.

It doesn’t prove it, it just backs up everything we know about the guy. There literally is not one legit document, picture, or record of this guy being born in HI, not one. There is more proof that he is a citizen on Indonesia and who’s legal name is Barry Soetoro than there is that he’s an American. This is why there is only 2 possibilities with Beck: 1)He’s been threatened or 2)He is on Obama’s team. I still haven’t figured that part out yet.

I think it should go beyond that. There is enough probable cause to ask to look at the hard copy of the purported b.c. But that would take a leader with balls, outside of Arpaio  I’m not sure if they exist in the U.S.

OK, for anyone interested, here is the EXACT wording of Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code.  I will put in caps key words that matter and explain why for you birthers out there who still insist on the ignorant birther argument.

“The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States AT BIRTH:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe:  Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is acitizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or oneof its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its
outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable
service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the
United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.”Now, let’s analyze the words Congress carefully chose for this Section, shall we, specifically when they SPECIFICALLY chose to use the term AT BIRTH in the introduction of this Section.Congress stated, “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States AT BIRTH:”  They did NOT state, “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States:”  They specifically added AT BIRTH at the end to state that they were NATURAL BORN citizens.  You see, dimwitted fools, the addition of AT BIRTH bumps the mere citizenship up to NATURAL BORN citizenship in this particular clause.  EVERY SINGLE TIME the US Supreme Court and the Congress of the United States have used the terms AT BIRTH in their legal agreements, they were referring to one being NATURAL BORN.  You see, AT BIRTH has been used interchangeably with NATURAL BORN by the US government as far back as the 1700s.  When Congress used the term AT BIRTH in Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code, the were referring SPECIFICALLY to one’s NATURAL BORN citizenship status.

Because then it would prove them wrong. They know the guy’s not eligible, I don’t know why they just don’t come out and say that they just don’t care instead of putting this stupid act on. An NBC is and has always been defined as a child born on US soil to citizen parents, period. It really is no coincidence that every single Pres from Polk to GW Bush was born on US soil to citzen parents, the first 10 Pres were “citizen at the signing of this Constitution”.

Dude I have no idea from who or where you got your info from, but you’re wrong. No lower court decision trumps SCOTUS.

You can predict everything this guy is going to do and I can 100% guarantee you something big is going to happen if Congress or the courts do not remove this guy. Everybody in Congress should be tried for treason and hanged.

Let’s take a look at a court case in 1844 that is widely regarded as the court case that set the precedent for one being natural born, shall we.  It was Lynch VS Clarke.

It “dealt with a New York law that only a U.S. citizen could inherit real estate. The plaintiff, Julia Lynch, had been born in New York while her parents, both British, were briefly visiting the U.S., and shortly thereafter all three left for Britain and never returned to the U.S. The New York Chancery Court determined that, under common law and prevailing statutes, she was a U.S. citizen by birth and nothing had deprived her of that citizenship, notwithstanding that both her parents were not U.S. citizens or that British law might also claim her through her parents’ nationality.”
Here are the conclusions established by the court in that case.
“Suppose a person should be elected president who was native born, but of alien parents; could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the Constitution? I think not. The position would be decisive in his favor, that by the rule of the common law, in force when the Constitution was adopted, he is a citizen.”
“Upon principle, therefore, I can entertain no doubt, but that by the law of the United States, every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, is a natural born citizen. It is surprising that there has been no judicial decision upon this question.”
Notice how they say that EVERY person born in the US is a natural born citizen REGARDLESS of where the parents were born.  That precedent was followed and upheld in just about EVERY court case that followed, including United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 18998.

I love it when the prince of racism claims he is a birther and doesn’t want to talk about it, then spends story after story talking about it.
glenn beck has already been proven to be a racist, so of course he tries to steer clear of this (on the outsidet), but loves to talk about it whenever he can.
I noticed he didn’t talk about Romney Arizona campaign co-chair, who is also the state’s secretary of state is no following the birther tradition by asking for another birth certificate from Hawaii to the President can be on the ballot, even though he was listed on the 2008 ballot.
Arizona’s racist leadership should be ashamed for their repeated attacks against minorities!!!

one man army,

Matches what I have been saying, note his 1866 reiteration.
John Bingham stated in the House of Representatives in 1862:

The Constitution leaves no room for doubt upon this subject. The
words ‘natural born citizen of the United states’ appear in it, and the
other provision appears in it that, “Congress shall have power to pass a
uniform system of naturalization.” To naturalize a person is to admit
him to citizenship. Who are natural born citizens but those born
within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or
white, are citizens by birth–natural born citizens.

He reiterated his statement in 1866:

Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States
of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the
language of your Constitution itself, a natural-born citizen; but, sir, I
may be allowed to say further that I deny that the Congress of the
United States ever had the power, or color of power to say that any man
born within the jurisdiction of the United States, not owing a foreign
allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States.
Citizenship is his birthright and neither the Congress nor the States
can justly or lawfully take it from him.
—————-
This one if you read my post is exactly as it should be, father comes to America gets naturalized has baby boy in USA then leaves with boy to Germany, father abandoned his naturalization in America and became a German subject. Boy is a natural born Citizen.
(They don’t mention a wife coming to the USA with father or leaving with so likely mother was a US Citizen also.)

Edwards Pierrepont was presented with an query from the Secretary of State, Hamilton Fish,
a young man, surnamed Steinkauler (his first name was never mentioned),
had been born in Missouri in 1855, a year after his father was
naturalized a U.S. citizen. When he was four years old, his father
returned to Germany with him and both had stayed there ever since…
————–

This is another one that shows “Citizen”, not natural born Citizen.

In 1854, the U.S. Secretary of State, William Learned Marcy (1786-1857), wrote to John Y. Mason, the U.S. Minister to France: 

    In reply to the inquiry … whether “the children of foreign parents born in the United States,
but brought to the country of which the father is a subject, and
continuing to reside within the jurisdiction of their father’s country,
are entitled to protection as citizens of the United States,” I have to
observe that it is presumed that, according to the common law, any
person born in the United States, unless he be born in one of the
foreign legations therein, may be considered a citizen thereof until he
formally renounces his citizenship. There is not, however any United
States statute containing a provision upon this subject, nor, so far as I
am aware, has there been any judicial decision in regard to it.———-These also are in my posts throughout this chain which show you are incorrect.Your words “The same EXACT conclusion was reached in the 1880s regarding a Chinese child who was born in the US.”Must be the Wong Kim Ark case you are referring to. US v. Wong Kim Ark.  In that case, the US Supreme Court held that (some)
persons born in the United States of alien parents were “citizens”.  In
doing so, the Court stated that it was specifically construing only the
14th Amendment.  And here lies the rub of clarity:
If Wong Kim Ark had been a natural-born citizen, the Supreme Court would never have reached the 14th Amendment issue.

Your words,”In the US Supreme Court case of Perkins v. Elg in 1939, the Swedish
girl in question was constantly referred to as a natural born citizen
despite the fact that neither of her parents were born here.  The court
even referred back to Steinkauler’s Case back in 1875 and included
the comment that the person born in America and raised in another
country could yet “become President of the United States.”"But the Swedish
girl in question was not constantly referred to as a natural born Citizen in that US Supreme Court finding, just a Citizen, see below from the case list.It was only about her “Citizenship” the loss of that and her attempts to regain that Citizenship.They mentioned the Steinkauler case as a memorandum. The Swedish girl did end up getting “native” citizen in the end. (The District Court overruled the motion as to
the Secretary of Labor and the Commissioner of Immigration and entered a
decree declaring that the plaintiff is a native citizen of the United
States but directing that the complaint be dismissed as to the Secretary
of State because of his official discretion in the issue of passports.)

U.S. Supreme Court
Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)
Perkins v. Elg

No. 454
Argued February 3, 1939
Decided May 29, 1939*
307 U.S. 325
CERTIORARI TO THE COURT OF APPEALS

FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

Syllabus

1. A child born here of alien parentage becomes a citizen of the United States. P. 307 U. S. 328.

2. As municipal law determines how citizenship may be acquired, the
same person may possess a dual nationality. P. 307 U. S. 329.

3. A citizen by birth retains his United States citizenship unless
deprived of it through the operation of a treaty or congressional
enactment or by his voluntary action in conformity with applicable legal
principles. P. 307 U. S. 329.

4. It has long been a recognized principle in this country that, if a
child born here is taken during minority to the country of his parents’
origin, where his parents resume their former allegiance, he does not
thereby lose his citizenship in the United States provided that, on
attaining majority, he elects to retain that citizenship and to return
to the United States to assume its duties. P. 307 U. S. 329.

Page 307 U. S. 327
MR. CHIEF JUSTICE HUGHES delivered the opinion of the Court.
The question is whether the plaintiff, Marie Elizabeth Elg. who was
born in the United States of Swedish parents then naturalized here, has
lost her citizenship and is subject to deportation because of her
removal during minority to Sweden, it appearing that her parents resumed
their citizenship in that country but that she returned here on
attaining majority with intention to remain and to maintain her
citizenship in the United States.
Miss Elg was born in Brooklyn, New York, on October 2, 1907. Her
parents, who were natives of Sweden, emigrated to the United States
sometime prior to 1906, and her…Have a great weekend all

strtalk,
Did you even read what your comment is attached too? Glenn is refuting the birther argument you idiot. You keep proving yourself to be an idiot.

Wrong.  Clearly you have reading comprehension problems as proven by your statements here.

Bingham’s statement does NOT match what you are saying.  In 1862, he said this, “Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth–natural born citizens.”  NOTHING there about the birthplace of the parents son.  In 1866, he said this, “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural-born citizen.”  Again, NO mention of the birthplace of the parents.  He mentions allegience of the parents, yes, but not their birthplace.  Big difference there son.

Here are Pierrepont’s words EXACTLY as he wrote them.  ”Under the treaty [of 1868 with Germany], and in harmony with American doctrine, it is clear that Steinkauler the father abandoned his naturalization in America and became a German subject (his son being yet a minor), and that by virtue of German laws the son acquired German nationality. It is equally clear that the son, by birth, has American nationality, and hence he has two nationalities, one natural, the other acquired. …. Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen. There is no law of the United States under which his father or any other person can deprive him of his birthright. He can return to America at the age of 21, and in due time, if the people elect, he can become President of the United States….. I am of opinion that when he reaches the age of 21 years he can then elect whether he will return and take the nationality of his birth, with its duties and privileges, or retain the nationality acquired by the act of his father.”
Pierrepont stated, and I quote, “Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen. There is no law of the United States under which his father or any other person can deprive him of his birthright. He can return to America at the age of 21, and in due time, if the people elect, he can become President of the United States”  See how he says Steinkauler was natural born and CAN, in due time, if elected, become President of the United States.

You’re TOTALLY wrong about the Marcy letter, as well.  That, too, is referring to natural born citizenship.

You’re also TOTALLY wrong about the Perkins VS Elg case.  Go back and actually LOOK at it, please.  The Swedish girl in question WAS constantly referred to as a NATURAL BORN citizen.  It’s even in the documents for the case.  They even came to the same conclusion reached 100 years earlier in another case in 1844, that she WAS a natural born citizen.

You really need to fix whatever reading comprehension problems you have, you know.

Clearly you love to misconstrue some of Bingham’s, Pierrepont’s and Marcy’s comments there, son.  News flash for you.  If you actually read their statements in proper context, what they are stating is that a United States citizen is a citizen AT BIRTH, that is a NATURAL BORN citizen, by virtue of the NATURE of his being born within the United States.

Regardless, you get the court rulings blatantly wrong on the outset despite them being readily available for public viewing.  I mean, here you are claiming that the Swedish girl was not constantly referred to as a natural born citizen when the public record proves otherwise.  Now you are making yourself out to be a blatant liar.  This is where the idiotic birther argument leads, you know.  And this is why the idiotic birther argument makes it that much more difficult for a TRUE conservative to stand up and reverse Obama’s failed policies.

Thank you for your work in researching this and posting it here. It’s too bad that our lower courts don’t heed the Supreme Court’s rulings, but make up their own where it concerns Obama.

One lower court has ruled that anyone born on U.S. soil is a natural-born citizen because they confuse “native” with natural-born. If that was the case, then why didn’t the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment give automatic citizenship to native-born indians? The answer is that they considered indians to be a foreign nation EVEN THOUGH it was on U.S. soil. Their “allegiance” was to their tribe and NOT to the U.S. The tribe held “jurisdiction” over their own people. This holds true for any foreigner on U.S. soil. “Allegiance” and complete “jurisdiction” goes to their home country. The same applies to their children even IF they are born on U.S. soil because they are born with “dual” citizenship. They children still owe “allegiance” to the home country of their FATHER. Our Immigration Department does not “officially” recognize dual citizenship.

To become a “naturalized” citizen, a person has to give up ALL “allegiance” to any foreign country that they acquired by birth. This does NOT allow for dual citizenship!

Vattel wrote in his “Law of Nations”: 
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

He went on to write: 
I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

Obama has made it obvious in so many ways through words and deeds that he is NOT “of” this country no matter where he was born! His agenda is completely “foreign” to everything our Republic and Constitution stand for. He does NOT have “complete allegiance” to the U.S. As he said himself, “I am a citizen of the world”! How ANYONE could want this man to be the leader of our country and the Commander and Chief of our armies is beyond me.

You are the one having a reading comprehension problem.

John Bingham said:
“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural-born citizen.”

Note where it says “of parents (plural) NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE to any foreign sovereignty is,” Obama’s FATHER owed his “allegiance” to English ruled Kenya. He was a FOREIGN student here.

To become a “naturalized” citizen in the U.S., a person has to give up ALL “allegiance” to ANY foreign country they acquired by birth. Obama acquired English citizenship by birth THROUGH HIS FATHER. His parents could have taken him anywhere in the world and claimed that he was an ENGLISH CITIZEN by birth. The fact that they didn’t does NOT change the fact that someone who was “born” an English citizen can NOT be President of the United States! It does not matter that he had “dual” citizenship IF he was born on U.S. soil. He is NOT a natural-born citizen with parent(s) NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE to a foreign country.

In the second case it was written: “in harmony with American doctrine, it is clear that Steinkauler the father abandoned his naturalization in America.” At the time of the son’s birth the FATHER was an AMERICAN CITIZEN by naturalization. Natural-born goes by the moment of birth. Again, his FATHER was an American citizen when his son was born. What the father did afterwards does not change the moment of birth.

A case in point is Marco Rubio. His parents became “naturalized” citizens AFTER he was born. Rubio is a “naturalized” citizen through the act of his father, BUT he is NOT a natural-born citizen. As much as I admire Marco Rubio, it does NOT change the fact that he is NOT eligible to run for the office of President or VP. At least Marco Rubio loves this country, which is more than can be said about the “citizen of the world” that we now have as President.

No, glenn beck is once again bringing up the birther argument to keep it fresh in his lemmings’ heads. If he truly didn’t want the topic discussed, as he has said a hundred times in the past he would ignore the story. Did you notice how many lemmings commented and went on their racist/birther rants afterwards…something like 600 comments.

 Incorrect.
Natural born citizen is defined as any person born in, not parented by, the U.S. unless both parents are foreign diplomats.  Also, a person is a natural born citizen if either parent is a U.S. citizen at time of birth, no matter where it took place.

First — no where in our citizenship laws does it use the term “natural-born”. Yes, they are born “citizens”, but they are not given the status of natural-born citizens.

In 1873, The United States Attorney General published the following legal opinion concerning the Fourteenth Amendment:

“The word ‘jurisdiction’ must be understood to mean absolute and complete jurisdiction, such as the United States had over its citizens before the adoption of this amendment. Aliens, among whom are persons born here and naturalized abroad, dwelling or being in this country, are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States only to a limited extent. POLITICAL (caps mine) and military rights and duties do not pertain to them.”
 

Joanne13
You hang in there.  trying to bury TRUTH is like trying to bury a worm.  And friend, truth is impossible to manufacture after the fact.
God bless

“If we keep together we shall be
safe, and when error is so apparent as to become visible to the majority, they
will correct it.” –Thomas Jefferson to Thomas W. Maury,
1816. ME 18:291

Tell me about it. I hate stories like this anyways it divides us when we need to be standing as one united front to get rid of the commie and chief.

My quick bio of you which is probably all wrong. but here it is. You are
Gender: male
Age 25-35
Sexual orientation: gay possibly bi
place of residence: Northwest USA
ethnic origin: jewish from middle east, possibly Russia
religion: Zen Buddhist
Sports likes: basketball handball and beach volleyball
quirks: hates broccoli and is left handed
Relationships: Estranged from father. strong relations with siblings and mother. Loves music

There it is. Right or wrong. That would be my report

You’re an ignorant little piss-ant who thinks that Glenn Beck gives a crap about idiots like you who have an actual unhealthy fixation with another man and a dangerous fixation with little children.
Take your lunacy somewhere else, normal people don’t really care for your hate mongering.
Have you people had enough of this bigoted fool yet????
Flagged.

You’re an ignorant little piss-ant who thinks that Glenn Beck gives a crap about idiots like you who have an actual unhealthy fixation with another man and a dangerous fixation with little children.
Take your lunacy somewhere else, normal people don’t really care for your hate mongering.
Have you people had enough of this bigoted fool yet????
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Our Founders understood that all nations, including ours, are a conglomeration of two irreconcilable groups: the lawless and the honest.   The question is how to enable the latter to enjoy the liberties and fruit of society they deserve and still protect them from the former who would exploit tha tliberty.
America is the answer to that question.

And, That is why Daniel Webster put it this way:

“We may be tossed upon an ocean where we can see no land nor,
perhaps, the sun and stars.  But there is
a chart and a compass for us to study, to consult, and to obey.  The chart
is the Constitution.”  – Daniel Webster

Anyone who claimed that they served in the Military and really didn’t should be kicked out of the country for lying and cowardice.

OOOOPS strtlk, you’re out, take a hike to Cuba or somewhere where they like cowards who betray their county.
LMFBO

Jan Markell isn’t a minister, she does a radio show with a guest.She does shows about what is going on in the world in relation to the Bible.Her topics ranger from politics to Churches doing new age things.For example: Jan Markell radio show on NAR cult movement and the Emergent Church
http://olivetreeradio.com/OTM2011_11_05A.mp3
November 5 2011 Jan interacts with Tom McMahon of Berean Call concerning his new book,Temporal Delusion: Is the Church Destined to be Raptured or to Reign Supreme?Both the social gospel and Kingdom Now Theology propose “fix the earth” solutions but it won’t work.
They discuss Stearns’ troubling, works-oriented Hole in the Gospel social gospel issues, C. Peter Wagner’s New Apostolic Reformation, Rick Warren’s contribution to this mix, and much more. They also touch on evangelical mysticism, ancient-future heresies and other elements contributing to the delusion of today’s church
http://olivetreeradio.com/OTM2011_11_05A.mp3

I find it strange that “useful idiots” like you think that you can intimidate people with your slurs.

The quote above your post says it all.
“If we keep together we shall be safe, and when error is so apparent as to become visible to the majority, they will correct it.” –Thomas Jefferson to Thomas W. Maury,1816. ME 18:291 

Of course Jefferson was talking about a moral and just people. He had no idea that someday a great many people in the U.S. would lie, cheat, slander and do whatever they could to put an ineligible person in the office of President with the soul purpose of destroying the Constitution and the Republic. Their agenda is to “transform” this once great nation into a third-world hell-hole.To strip this once wealthy nation of it’s wealth to “redistribute” to the dictators of the world. To sell out the American people to U.N. treaties that would throw out our Constitution and put us under a one world governance.

By all definitions, these people are TRAITORS to the REPUBLIC of the United States and should be prosecuted as such.

I would rather be called a “birther” than a TRAITOR like you.

I am responding to what you wrote to me about Glen(They also believe that America (the U.S.) is the ‘promised land’ rather than Israel. That is a REAL stretch of the imaginat…)

I am very disappointed that Glenn Beck is still being sarcastic of “birthers”. I remember writing him years ago about his ridicule of “birthers” for daring to question Obama’s eligibility.

Beck was the one who was always saying that we should check out things for ourselves and not take another person’s word for it. He is being a hypocrite by ridiculing people like myself who did just that and found that Obama is NOT eligible to be our President. I know I have not listened to him for over a year because of his ridicule of birthers and the tea party.

Anyone with half a mind should wonder WHY this publisher “changed” the biography after SIXTEEN YEARS just when Obama started his run for the presidency. The excuse that they left it for all those years because Obama wanted to be “politically cool” is lame at best. It still constitutes fraud no matter how you want to look at it and does NOT explain why the White House released a forgery of his hospital birth certificate.

IF Obama was born in Kenya (and many facts point to that) he is not even a U.S. citizen and has NO RIGHT to be our President.

The fact that Beck is trying to make excuses for Obama like the rest of the lame-stream media, only shows that he is NOT for Americans and saving the Republic from being “fundamentally transformed”!

Whatever his reasoning or excuse may be, Beck has totally lost my interest now. There are enough lies from the MSM without Beck adding to the heap of garbage the American people are being sold as the truth.

All the TRUTH that I have learned has come from extensive research. I don’t need Beck’s opinion to form my own!

Sorry to disagree…the man has egregiously trampled over our Constitution and for that he needs to go;    make no mistake about it,  that is but one of many reasons he needs to go NOW, not in Nov.
I did not vote for the parriah that is Obama whether WE can prove he was born here or not!

So you finally come to my post. I have seen how you methodically have gone through all the posts touting the same message without offering any evidence.

You must be a very well paid troll in someone’s service. And you should be “proud” of yourself.

Hey FireMall,  tell you what….I am a forgiving soul and probably like you, everything that has gone on has taken its toll on all of us, and has po’d us all.
Let’s all agree to get along!

Instead of being personally insulted, how about making the case for him?   In reading through all the posts, many have extensive knowledge of the law and hopefully, Glenn will respond on Monday.

Give the guy a break!!!!     For all we know,  he’s probably dealing with much more important stuff that concerns the safety of his family.

So many of us are aware and doing all with-in the law and power granted us by the Almighty.    We in the know will try our best to make certain the evil that resides in DC doesn’t get a second chance;  please pray along with us because as you say, it will not only affect east Africa, but the entire world.
God Bless our nation, for we turn to you oh Lord for guidance once again.

I see and hear three guys acting like jerks, which btw, all guys tend to do when together!    Funny how two people can view and hear the same words and walk away thinking different things!
Honestly, I saw it more of them laughing at Obama because he thinks we are all idiots by taking the focus away from the economy, unemployment and all the other issues.   Glenn, Rush and Hannity have the power of getting the info out;   not the ability of hauling the POTUS  kicking and screaming out of the oval office!
Whose jobs exactly is that?    The justice dept?

Scary fiction….something Stephen King  could not have thought up….or maybe he could, sick minds think alike.

I am still dubious that a publisher would make a contextual mistake of saying Obama was from Kenya, if he was not, like the one Glenn refers to about his wife being from Italy.  Publishers usually go out of their way to avoid contextual references.  You know, I could claim I am from Ireland, contextually, knowing that one of my great grandfathers was originally from Ireland.  His wife, one of my great grandmothers, was a full Cherokee Indian.  I guess that means I could claim, like Elizabeth Warren, that I am Native American!!  Yeah!!  Sure!!  Where is my casino?  I have no pride one way or the other in my Irish or Cherokee ancestry.  I am first, foremost and always AMERICAN.  I am not Irish-American or Cherokee-American, or African-American or Native-American, I am American only!!  Why would I even consider claiming I am from Ireland?  I could care less where my ancestors were from.  I was borne, raised and am an American.  For a supposedly American citizen with political aspirations to claim or allow to be claimed he is from Kenya, even contextually, is just hard for me to swallow.

I have never been one to embrace conspiracy theories, but the evidence of Obama’s not being a natural born citizen is just too hard to ignore.  Why keep his original birth certificate hidden for nearly three years, then to find it is an obvious cut-and-paste document?  The excuse that it was due to legal practices in Hawaii, and that Hawaiians accept other documents as proof of birth stretches credulity.  If the President of the United States wanted his original birth certificate from Hawaii, don’t insult me by explaining it would take him nearly three years to get it!  Why keep his other credentials, including his college transcripts and the Visa he used to travel around the world shortly after enrolling in an American college, secret??  By the way, who paid for that sojourn?  How did he get a scholarship as a foreign student, if he was an American citizen?  Why did he hire Elena Kagan to defend keeping his credentials secret, then later propose her appointment to the Supreme Court?  AND, why is she being allowed to sit on the decision of the constitutionality of Obamacare, when as Solicitor General, she hawked the Health Care Bill?  I believe even in lowly  local civil courts such antics would constitute conflict of interest, much less the Supreme Court of the United States.

Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, he still had a foreign, non-Citizen parent.  Doesn’t that violate the definition of natural born citizen?

Come one Glenn!  I stand with you and admire your analyses of just about everything except this hog-wash!! 

Maybe that’s because it’s a subject that is futile to legislate…..think about it.    Who in the government will bring charges against the POTUS?    There are two parties that may or may not be cohorts in the lie.   How do mere mortals fight a michine that can wipe out an entire generation of people?
If we don’t go the route of repudiation for lack of merits on his part and vote him out, honestly I don’t see anyone taking on the job of impeaching Obama.   The birth thing is moot.   Do you realize the implication on the part of the Republicans to see Obama as a non-citizen?
We are all in jeopardy here!

I like Stephen King…well most of it.

All this high handed discourse doesn’t change the fact that…
if by some miracle the current P O S in the Whitehouse wins reelection he will be free to do whatever he wants. It takes a supermajority to override an Executive Order. As far as impeachment; the House can impeach with 50% + 1 but the Senate has to have a supermajority to convict. Not going to happen with this or the next group of egocentric political trash in Congress.

I’m not personally insulted and I’ve tried to help make the case for him if you bother to read my other posts.

The problem is that Beck ignores the facts and resorts to ridicule. If anything, he is insulting the intelligence of ALL his listeners. Now, if his listeners want to be lumped into the same category as the “useful idiots” that follow Obama — fine, but I personally want to know the TRUTH.

The public needs to be told the facts and not just someone’s opinion. Beck’s remarks feed into the propaganda of the far left that is trying to ward off any honest investigation of Obama’s citizenship.

The fact that this is even an issue speaks for itself. As the old saying goes, “where there’s smoke — there’s fire”. There wouldn’t have been over a hundred lawsuits and tons of books written if this issue had no substance.

There is one fact that stands out above all the rest. Why did it take Obama so many years to release his hospital birth certificate and WHY was it a forgery when it was finally released?

I can’t understand why so many people who openly believe that Obama is trying to destroy our Constitution and our Republic, can’t believe that he is not even eligible to be in that position of power. Do they really think that our government is so honest that they wouldn’t help perpetrate this happening? The same government who is trying to shove Obamacare down our throats and double our taxes. The same government who is trying to take our First and Second Amendments away? The same government who is ready to sign treaties with the U.N. that will void our Constitution? Why do people trust this government over facts that are right under their noses?

I can understand your defense for the safety of Beck’s family. I believe that is also the reason our Congress is doing NOTHING about Obama’s ineligibility. Even if some are patriots and would give up their own lives for our country, I don’t believe they want to put their families at risk.

This issue won’t be resolved until a majority of people demand that Congress act on it. The other alternative is that good men do nothing and our Republic becomes history. The choice is ours to make! 

I could not get into his books all that much.

Rufree
Re:  Give the guy a break.
Normally, I would agree with that.  There is indeed room for opinion, and forebearance in our political discussions.

Unfortunately, we are not talking politics are we?  We are actually talking about the Rule of Law in our nation, and the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land where no one is beneath it ,and no one is above it.

THAT is the issue.  T Roosevelt put it this way:

“No man is above the law, and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man’s permission when we require him to obey it. ”

Now, issues of law are not based on subjective opinion, likes and dislikes are they?  Nope, they are based on facts, OBJECTIVE  facts, and in a nation based on Rule of Law, where there is reason to believe that a crime might have been comitted, those facts are obtained.

The problem here is that the potenital perpetrator has spent millions to prevent those facts from being known, and people like Glenn are saying “Ignroe that and lets move on to bigger and better things.”

I would ask you jsut what is more important than the rule of law and the supremacy of the Constitution.

Put on the blindfold of justice.  What do you say to a person who says “Uphold the Constitution, except for this”?  What do you say “Hold all people accountable, except this one”?

You have your answer.  NOW, have the courage to deal with the person based on the evidence in that scale regardless of who it is.

As an aside, let me say that there are many who took an oath to defend that Constitution, as a whole, not piecemale.  When any part of it is attacked THERE is where the soldier fights; there is where the test is.

We may claim to be be “pro-Constitution” at every other place but where it is being attacked, but the truth is, we are NOT.

God bless

Wow. That’s pretty close. Place of residence is close, though its south. Ethnic origin has middle eastern, but not Jewish. I LOVE broccoli and I’m right handed. The rest is spot on.That is, you could argue that my practice of Christianity is a tad Buddhist. That’s interesting. Have a nice Sunday.

Bravo! Well put and I agree with you totally.

I hate arguing..it really isn’t in me.   But….if it were that simple, why is this fake POTUS?   Glenn is right;  here we have a true debate and folks here are talking trash about Glenn, who is not really the issue here…..that’s what I take issue with.   I think every single person here knows Obama has to go including Glenn and his entire cast of dopes!!!

Knowing that so many feel as I do about Obama, gives me hope.  
Sapient1-God Bless you as well.

Glenn,

Give me back my $99, so I can give it to Orly Taitz. You’ve completely lost my respect. I though you were a great American, but now I understand that you are yet another disgraceful traitor of the Constitution.

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

My Pastor told me to be more gracious in my words. So I will reply to you…You’re welcome very much and you have a wonderful day also.

 Beck can explain it very well, but will not. He is a schmuck, right? He sees attacks on his advertising dollars, DOS attacks on his website, and all sorts of problems that will cost him money. Beck is simply a Quisling and the only reason I hang out here is to remind people they are wasting their time and money on the likes of Beck and his buddy Bill O’Silly.

This is the kind of info I like to see!   We all know something is very wrong here….who among us has a degree in criminal law?    Not many I’m sure yet, we know something is not right!
Why is Eric Holder still holding the title of AG?  There are so many questions and so few  answers.

If you think about it, the implications are enormous and it’s hard for anyone to conceive of a solution because of the involvement of so many;    which I think is the true definition of a conspiracy. 

 Glenn, Rush and Sean alone can’t tackle something of this magnitude.   In the meantime, except for Rush, the other two have children to think about.   How would any here feel if their families were in immediate danger?    It’s rumored that was the reason the Clintons caved in;  Chelsea was threatened.
Everyone needs to be very careful with what they say and write, including we here.

or as it’s called in the South, “grin fxxkxxg”, that’s when somone calls you a nasty name while smiling the entire time.

My point exactly….you articulate better than me.

How convenient for those from the left to take advantage of a crisis and get the chance to badmouth Beck, Limbaugh and all the Conservative voices…all in one fell swoop. 

John Acord…you are a MM troll.   Nice try, but no dice!

I have been reading a lot of the pro-birther and anti-birther comments, and I am the first to admit that I have not recently read the definition of natural born citizen as written in the Constitution.  That is why I asked the question at the end of my other comment about his father’s citizenship.  Also, not to doubt any of your interpetations, but I would like to read it myslef, then form my own interpretation.  If I have misunderstood the definition of natural born all my 65 years, I will be shocked at my own igorance and apologetic to all. 

Someone below referred to a quote, I suppose from the Constitution, which stated something to the effect that if an individual was born on US soil, even of non-citizen parents, then they are a natural born citizen, but with the caveat that neither parent can pledge allegiance to any other soveriegnty.  I believe Obama’s biological father has always and still pledges allegiance to Kenya?  Am I wrong?

Regardless, of the natural born citizen definition, I strongly doubt Obama was born on US soil to begin with!  If he was, and if he really is a natural born citizen, then why all the subterfuge, foot-dragging, secrecy, spending millions to protect the privacy of his documents?  What is he trying to hide?  Why is the original hospital birth certificate that was finally produced been deemed a forgery by some FBI and other document forensics experts?  Whatever he is hiding, it may be much more onerous than just his citizenship!!  All this secrecy is what fuels the doubts of the birthers and has led to hundreds of law suits, and many books being written about it.  If there is no problems being hidden, Obama coudl simply have made these simple documents public when the furor first arose.  Has any other President in the history of the United States been this secretive about their birth certificate, their college transcripts and their Visa?  Could it be that a lot of high ranking officials arfe scared that the truth will come out, and their heads will roll?

Even if all this is hokum and he is a dyed in the wool citizen, we have a lot to worry about if he gets re-elected!!

SK gives me the creeps-where does he come up with the stuff he writes about?  Same with movies….can’t watch blood and gore…not Al, although can’t stand him either.     Guess I’m just an angry bird as the English would say!

Rufree
You ask a great questoin that I hope will put this into perspective as to just how simple it is:

Re:  But….if it were that simple, why is this fake POTUS?

Lets make sure we use the right words here. If Obama is a FAKE POTUS, he is actually an ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL POTUS.

The fact that he got in does NOT in anyway make him legal.
it is somewhat analogous to you waking in the morning to find an intruder into your home, who insists that since you forgot to lock your door, ot that it was inadequate to stop him, that he now had a RIGHT to be there because he was there. It was YOUR fault for not stopping him.

You know that is hardly the case.

The problem is that Glenn and Erick insist that that intruder being in yoru home is not the actual issue but that he needs to take a bath,or that he has too much stuff.

The problem dear friend, is that he is there in the first place.  It matters not one whit whether he even did it knowingly and intentionally, or simply wandered in drunk–he is still an intruder and until YOU regain your right to control your property, there are no other questions.

That is waht is at stake here.  Do We the People have a right to insist that the compact we made among ourselves as to how we would live together be honored until changed by the processes included in that compact.

The Founders say yes we do have that right.

God bless

“This Government, the offspring of our own choice, uninfluenced and unawed, adopted upon full investigation and mature deliberation, completely free in its principles, in the distribution of its powers, uniting security with energy, and containing within itself a provision for its own amendment, has a just claim to your confidence and your support. Respect for its authority, compliance with its laws, acquiescence in its measures, are duties enjoined by the fundamental maxims of true Liberty. The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and to alter their Constitutions of Government. But the Constitution which at any time exists, till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people, is sacredly obligatory upon all.  The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish Government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established Government.”  —George Washington, Farewell Address.

The fact that Obama’s father was not a citizen (neither natural born nor naturalized) and swore allegiance to another country is what should have precluded his eligibility for President…..never mind whether or not he was born on US soil.

No one can change the fact that the criteria for qualifing to be President or Vice President is more stringent than any other office……the Founders put this in deliberately to prevent a Presidential candidate subverting our process and being “hand picked” and placed in office possibly by a foreign power.

This has always been in our Constitution……it could come to the attention of the national media on the Republican side if Romney chose Marco Rubio, for instance….his parents are naturalized American citizens now, but weren’t citizens at his birth.

It seems to me Rubio isn’t eligible…..but neither is Obama…..he never was. 

Hospital birth certificates, although not considered legal documents, contain the infant’s footprint.  Match Obama’s  footprint against the one from the Hawaiian hospital’s  he clalims he was born in.  There is also a purported Kenyan hosptial birth ceritificte with a footprint on it.  See which one it matches.  Go to “Barack Obama’s Kenyan birfth certificate” and scroll down to see it    BUT, that might just solve the problem!!!

YES!

Same argument on whether to vote Ron Paul!     In theory, it makes sense….on paper, not so much.   God willing,  Sheriff Joe Arpaio will live long enough to see his grandchildren be married.   This administration is scary…there are Chicago thugs in high places.

and, he may also be trying to take the emphasis off of the Sheriff by mocking him.  Arpaio is in grave danger!

There is no doubt he is not on Obama;s team and his life has been in danger for years.

I have read your posts and my apologies for insinuating otherwise.   Personally,    I think Obama wasn’t born here;  we all know his father was born in Kenya…..Obama was probably born in Indonesia.   Can it be proven?    Maybe not…so let’s move on to our other choices……which are many.

one man army,

Number one, I am NOT your “son”.
Number two, If you use verbal attacks towards individuals you have lost your debate.
Number three, This forum is not a court.
Number four, It is okay for everyone to have their own opinion.

I must put out a pondering question for all here.
If all it takes is for one to be born on US soil, why does the Constitution state that no person shall be a Senator or Congressman that does not have X amount of years as a Citizen in the US, but then uses, no person except a natural born Citizen shall be a President or Vice President…?
Why the need for the extra wording, someone getting paid by the letter or word to print it?
Why not just say, to be elected one must have been born on anything American, the soil, a Protectorate country, an embassy, a ship…?

Everyone have a great week, I’ve got to get out and go boost the economy for the month.

Good idea, but how would one prove either one of the baby footprints was Obama’s?  Does Obama supposedly have a Kenyan birth certificate?  That’s a new one to me, if so.

The fact that there is so much of this info out in public and nothing is being done about it, seems to point to the realization that those who would pursue this, expose it and act on it, would be in danger of their lives, as well as their families.  There is no other explanation.  The GA judge who denied Obama’s name to be put on the ballot because of ineligibility, had afterwards “changed his mind.”  I”m sure he had “visitors” who convinced him to.

Actually, their friend was shot to death as a warning to them.

Sorry, son, but I am not verbally attacking anyone here. The one who has lost the argument is the one who doesn’t even understand the debate. For your information, that would be YOU, son. The one who has lost the argument is the one who flat out LIED about what the court cases actually say. That, too, would be you son.

They put the extra wording in the Constitution to explain that NO ONE but a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN can be President of the United States. Now, the Constitution itself does NOT define what a NATURAL BORN citizen is, but it clearly gives Congress the authority to define what makes one a natural born citizen. Congress did that once and for all with Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code when they stated, and I quote, verbatim, word for word, “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States AT BIRTH:” As you say, why the need for the extra wording? Why did Congress add the words AT BIRTH to the wording of Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code? It could have just stated, “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States:” But it did NOT. Congress SPECIFICALLY added AT BIRTH to Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code to SPECIFICALLY refer to NATURAL BORN citizens because Congress and the Supreme Court have been using the terms NATURAL BORN and AT BIRTH interchangeably since even the 1700s. To Congress and the Supreme Court, they mean the EXACT same thing.

Now, it is okay for you to have your opinion. However, your opinion is WRONG, period. The Constitution proves your opinion WRONG. Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code proves your opinion WRONG. EVERY SINGLE court case that decided one’s natural born citizenship status proves you WRONG. It is a DOCUMENTED FACT that ANYONE and EVERYONE born in this country, REGARDLESS of where the parents were born, IS a natural born citizen, period. This is NOT my opinion. This is a DOCUMENTED FACT documented by Congress, documented by the US Supreme Court, and documented by the very Constitution you claim to uphold. When your opinion runs in the face of the DOCUMENTED FACTS as they have stood for nearly 200 years, it is a WRONG opinion, period.

This forum may not be a court, but it is clear you don’t really care about court decisions anyway seeing as you COMPLETELY ignored court decisions going as far back as at least 1844.

My advice to you is to grow up, son, because you have NO clue whatsoever about what you are even talking about.

You would have to take of footprint of the President, probably by court order, and then match it to each one. It would work like a fingerprint.

Subject: [glennbeck] Re: Glenn’s take on the latest birther claims

Nope, no reading comprehension problems on my part there. Though, you certainly proved that you have some. Now, how about you go back and actually put Bingham’s words into its proper context and actually UNDERSTAND what he meant when he stated “not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty.” It seems you have no clue what he even meant by that. LOL You birthers and your weak straw man arguments simply don’t even cut it anymore.

I think what is confusing to us over sixty is we ask ourselves how could this happen? How can a large majority of our citizens be fooled and how so many can still believe the lie?
Obama Sr. I believe died in a car crash in Kenya a while back. I feel as you do that Barry was born somewhere other than here.
The truth will come forth, it always does eventually.

Look closely at those court cases and quite being so ignorant. Not only did they claim the Indians weren’t natural born citizens, but they said SPECIFICALLY that they were NOT citizens AT BIRTH. Now, compare that to a couple cases where Chinese children were born to FOREIGN BORN parents where the court cases actually concluded that the Chinese child was a NATURAL BORN citizen by NATURE of his being born here.

You also clearly have NO understanding of what our founders truly understood. There is a reason they did NOT define what makes one a natural born citizen. They left that up to Congress to decide, and Congress did just that when they created Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code, which states, and I quote, verbatim, word for word, “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States AT BIRTH:” Now, you birthers are the ignoramuses who don’t understand why Congress added AT BIRTH to the wording of Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code. The terms AT BIRTH was added to SPECIFICALLY refer to NATURAL BORN citizens. Congress was given Constitution authority to do so, and Congress did so. How are you idiots missing that plain and simple fact?

So do I. It just makes me sick. I mean, these birthers claim to uphold the Constitution, but when Congress does something that is actually Congress’s Constitutional right to do, they simply ignore it. It’s just idiotic, really. Our founding fathers left the defining of natural born citizenship up to the decisions of the courts and Congress. That is why they didn’t specifically define it in the Constitution. Congress tried to put the argument to rest using Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code to clearly define what makes one a natural born citizen of the United States when they specifically chose to use the term AT BIRTH in the introduction to Section 1401. Still, it seems, some people simple refuse to get it. In their claims of upholding the Constitution, all they’re doing is tearing it down and making it that much more difficult for true conservatives to step forward and reverse Obama’s policies because it will make true conservatives look just as crazy as the idiot birthers who follow them.

Thanks again for another wonderful post.

Glenn should appreciate that what you write has a lot of “common sense” to it.

This shouldn’t even be an issue because Obama should have been properly vetted BEFORE he was allowed on the ballot in the first place. The Democrat party FAILED in their duty to protect and defend the Constitution.

Now it would cause a Constitutional crisis to try to undo three and a half years of legislation and executive orders under this usurper.

As I wrote on another site: We were told we were buying a purebred, but it turned out to be a mutt with forged papers. Can we get a refund?

The problem is that there is no way to compensate all the thousands of people who have been hurt by this fraud or get back the trillions of dollars that have been given to Obama’s supporters as paybacks.

It is obvious that the Democrat party cares NOTHING about the Constitution or the people in America. IF the TRUTH is finally recognized, many heads should roll and the Democrat party will be history. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose if they finally told the TRUTH! Many Republicans would probably go down with them.

But what is more important? Our government or our Republic, our Constitution and our freedom? We may have to destroy the one to save the other.

Glenn just doesn’t get it or he has been threatened into silence. This issue is of prime importance as you said.

 If you are refering to Minor, that was not in the decision. They merely confirmed that the subject Minor was a US citizen natural born and if there was any doubt both parents were US citizens for purposes of standing to sue only. This case was never cited as precedent nor was it filed about natural born citizenship, nor did any decision state it despositive as to natural born citizenship.
Regarding dual citizenship, a minor child cannot renounce his natural born citizenship, nor can his parent do it for him. At majority, he can renounce his US citizenship or return to the US and act as a US citizen, vote or not, register or not, yada,yada…….The Constitution, the 14th amendment, all immigration and citizenship laws, Supreme Court decisions, lower court decisions affirmed by the SC or not appealed to SC, all definitions and legal opinions support this. NOTHING valid supports your opinion, nor did you offer any proof.

I’d like to point something out to you. Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code CLEARLY defines what makes someone a United States citizen AT BIRTH. In the eyes of BOTH Congress and the Supreme Court, as evidenced by statements from SEVERAL early members of each, the inclusion of AT BIRTH in Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code is referring EXACTLY to natural born citizenship. So, you are 100% wrong. Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code SPECIFICALLY uses the term AT BIRTH to mean EXACTLY NATURAL BORN citizenship. You see, that’s what AT BIRTH means. If you are a citizen of the United States AT BIRTH, you were NATURALLY BORN in the United States as far as Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Constitution is concerned. Case closed, already. Please fix your reading comprehension problems.

  Mexico has a policy of Jus sanguinis. US is Jus soli. Romney’s father was born of two US citizens in Mexico but never subject to Mexican jurisdiction or citizenship. Romney’s father was raised in US as a natural born citizen. George was vetted and it was decided that he was eligible to hold the office of Pres if elected.

Sunshine49
Wrong analogy.  We are not seeking a refund but to remove a usurper.  Quite a different thing.

Never believe for a moment that our choice is between our freedom and the Constitution, etc. The Constitution, the rule of law are what guarantee our freedom. They are NOT opposed to each other but one falls with the other NOT the other way around.

DO NOT BELIEVE IT!

THAT is the burglar’s fall back position–”law enforcement is too risky, costs too much, etc.”

NEVER. NEVER. NEVER.

Enforce the law and let the chips fall.

Not doing so is what endangers us, or it opens the flood gates to lawlessness..

God bless

“We may be tossed upon an ocean where we can see no land nor, perhaps, the sun and stars.  But there is a chart and a compass for us to study, to consult, and to obey.  The chart is the Constitution.”  – Daniel Webster

It’s time to stop embarrassing ourselves with this birther nonsense.  There are real issues needing discussion.

What proof that he has a CT SS#? A PI testified that an alleged Obama SS# was invalid or CT in a Georgia hearing in which the plaintiffs lost. That evidence and others were rejected by the judge and the case lost. Taitz lost again. By my count, that makes at least 10 losses and several fines and censures for wasting the court’s time and disrespecting the judicial process, and baseless and frivolous.
 
How would anyone have Obama’s SS#? Did they see or have copies of all tax returns he has filed over the years? Did the number change? Is it the number from CT? If so, so what?
I found 15 SS# linked to my name on my credit report. I NEVER used anyone of them, have no idea where they came from. Did you know anyone can make up a number, use your name, especially if it is unusual or a variant misspelling and check your credit or obtain credit?
Was he 21 when he traveled to Pakistan? It makes a difference. Under that age, he could hold dual citizenship, as it was acquired as a minor child through his adopted parent. However, I do wonder how he retained Indonesian passport when he allegedly lived in the US from the age of 10 on, and the adoption was “reversed” allegedly…….
Unfortunately, none matters. Even if you could get Congress to declare him ineligible, which is the only body that could, it would not negate any laws which were passed by Congress. The VP would simply sign any necessary papers to affirm the previous actions
This whole thing is an exercise in futility and is dangerous to the republic’s restoration

It should be manditory to show the original of your birth certificate to be running for president. You can not even get a passport without the original copy!

  Considering the Birth Qualification process was corrupted from the get go. I’d say that this  Birth issue being dealt with before Obama ‘s destruction agenda began would have prevented the creation of the Real Issues you speak of. 

   What’s wrong with starting from the First issue , With the First issue ?  After all, The Birth issue “IS” the Root of all other issues at hand.
     
 

That’s not what the constitution had in mind. But it has lead us to another problem being anchor babies. So we should kick the illegal parents out of the country and let them decide if they are going to leave the child here or take the child with them.

 I e-mailed them and told them no more and refund me now.They did.

 A minor child cannot relinquish all other citizenships. Do you know for sure what the Indonesian law was at the time Barry Soetero went to private Catholic school in Indonesian and whether it affected his enrollment in private Catholic school?
Why don’t you deal in real facts that matter?
Like, his weakness in foreign policy and his alliances with interests contrary to the US and his admiration for anti american philosophies and his constant misquoting of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, his expansion of his personal bureaucracy, populated by progressives and outright communists, the Muslims (raised radical) in the State Department, the fact that he doesn’t even know the motto of the US or how many states, yadaydayda……

liestopper
Pray tell–what issue is more important than the Rule of Law and the Constitution being the Supreme Law of the Land…all of it?
THAT is what this is about…pure and simple…and that stands until changed by the legitimate process embodied in the Consttiution itself.

 I agree he is a fraud, but how do you know, what proof is there that he “used” multiple SS#? Did anyone get copies of his filed tax returns, and compared them year to year for consistency of SS#? Did you know that SS# are by the original law only to be used for purposes of SS benefits? We lost control of that aspect of privacy, but it is not as far as I can find, against the law to have more than one SS# nor are you required to give your SS# to anyone but an employer because they are required to report SS benefit payments. Credit bureaus should not have your SS# but again we lost control of that too.
I found 10-15 SS# on my credit report one year. I never gave them anywhere. Turns out anyone can check your credit or obtain credit under your name or a variant thereof with a made up number and you pay the price with a fraud alert and bad credit, that the SSA has “shuffled” numbers and dropped numbers or names and the wrong number gets attached to a different name or someone gets a deceased attached to their name or a deceased one gets alive. It is a nightmare and even as much as I think he’s a fraud, I do not believe for a second that SS# is an issue of fraud on his part.
I also do not know of any proof that he falsified government documents. It is possible, even probable, that when his mother divorced Soetero when he was 10 and the adoption was “reversed” with the help of Obama Sr (whose name was different on various immigration documents), that the birth certificate was “forged” then.

 The important point is that Minor is NOT binding precedent for definition of natural born citizen, only for women being citizens equal to men.
It has NEVER been cited in any case defining natural born citizen as one born in the US, regardless of parentage, and eligible to be Pres/VP

I have read the Constitution and several Constitutional Attorneys’ interpretation therefof, and I will have to say, I could not find a specific definition of “Natural Born Citizen” in the Constitution.  The legal pundits also disagree as to the definition……some saying that anyone born within the borders of the USA are natural born citizens, and some saying that natural born citizen means being born of a male and a female both of which are US citizens.  I was taught in middle school and high school history classes in the 1960s that natural born citizen means the later, but who can trust the history lessons we learned in grade school and high school?  If the former, then I cannot see why we are even having the discussion, or why any mention of it is even in the Constitution, because it would mean that even Osama Bin Laden and one of his many wives could have come to the US and had a baby, and that baby would have been eligible to run for and hold the Office of the President of the USA.  Maybe that is the true interpretation, but it just doesn’t sound logical or reasonable to me.  It’s a very hard swallow!  Also, I have to admit that I am embarassed that I have been ignorant of the real text of the Constitution for all these years!

Again, regardless, I don’t believe he was born within the borders of the USA anyway, and even if he was, the important thing is that we assure that he does not get to take office for a second term!!  Vote this socialist, Muslim loving, communist, anti-Christian out of office!!!  I am not that great of fan of Romney, nor was I a George Bush fan, but any breathing human being, would probably be better than this!!

“The supporters of the birther theory are used to make conservatives as a whole look radical and conspiratorial,”

You gotta be kidding Beck!  You are one of the biggest conspiracy pushers on the planet, if not the biggest, and you make a silly statement like this!  The whole point of the “birther” issue is one of the “transparency” and honesty of a man who has more cobwebs in his closet than Carters has little liver pills!

Since when have you worried about the claims of your political “incorrectness” from the left on issues which you supposedly have undeniable proof?  All of your conspiratorial accusations require some acceptance of circumstantial evidence.

Show me a valid microfiche of the actual long form birth certificate and I will relent.  My youngest daughter was born in Hawaii (Oahu) at Queen’s Medical Center in 1980.  I have the long form certificate and not the Certificate of Live Birth presented by Obama.  Mine is also the original and not some modified/fake pdf copy.

If we are to overturn everything this Marxist narcissist has done, then the issue of his citizenship is of paramount importance. I don’t know if he is a citizen or not, but to discount an issue simply because there might be an easier and less controversial alternative is foolish and, I believe, below your integrity level.

If the interpretation of the definition of “Natural Born Citizen” is the born within the borders of the USA, then we maybe we coudl kick the parents out, but the child is a US citizen and we woudl be violating his/her rights!

 You are pretty much wrong on all accounts except for your statement that his agenda is …..foreign…” I don’t know about that ” completely” Too many Presidents and Americans have denigrated and disparaged the Constitution and Dec of Indep so that we are mostly subject to and dependent on progressive ideals (Wilson, FDR, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton).
Minor is not binding precedent regarding natural born citizenship. It has never been cited in citizenship cases as precedent as it dealt only with the issue that women were citizens equal to men and if there was any question that Minor was a citizen natural born, there was the added fact that both her parents were citizens, a very different matter than redefining Jus soli, which it did not do.
Cited precedent has  been Lynch, Elg, immigration law and practice, legal opinions, Black’s law definition, etc.

It would be nice if it were true then we would have an easy way of throwing the idiot out but there is so much more we could use to kick him out for one thing the economy is still in a flushing toilet. Second his polices did not help at all and people see that. That is why his popularity is so lower in all groups. If we are going to send a message to these progs then now we have a chance and if Mitt turns out to be one to we kick him out as well. Oh sorry about having to close my profile some idiot tried to hack into it and I had to shut it down.

Firemall
Ditto
This is analogous to waking up to find a burglar in the living room who insists that he is now a member of the household because you forgot to lock the door.
Hardly…and until YOU regain control over your property, which includes the right to control what goes on that and who has access to it, there is no other issue to be discussed.
Can you mimagine how silly it is for that burglar to suggest that, since he was already there, he would compromise and only take the TV instead of the TV AND the silverware.
NADA!
There is NO compromise on rule of law…period.
@google-e594d0ac4ef32ff1dbf202e19ec14094:disqus

One Man Army:

   We can argue till hell freezes over about case law & precedent evidence. 

  None of the case law scripts address the Issue with Obama. 

     The Birthers as you call them , have a legitimate question that even so called conservatives refuse to address.  Thus said question, [as in singular question] would be “Where the Hell was Obama born ?? 
   There is nothing more to the question , except when the Non-Birthers create questions which have nothing to do with Obama’s issue. 
   Why do so many people refuse to acknowledge the Fact that there is ample evidence that something in Obama’s favorite ancestral   country  ,Denmark , wreaks of corruption ?? 

   In Short,  Where was Obama born ??
  Before answering my inquiry, remember Obama “Has” actually answered this question long before he was a POTUS candidate so why even consider debating something Obama has already stated in fact ??  

BTW:     To hell with case law precedent
 . There isn’t any case law regarding Obama’s Birth issue because “We The People’s”  congressional Reps / Traitors have never hauled Obama’s azz into court to set any precedent with his particular case.
   Please post any historical  case law precedent regarding  a POTUS that  has yet to prove his eligibility as per electoral  law.. 

Seeing now it does not matter now the why Glenn would back him. The one we should be asking ourselves is how do you prevent people like Mitt from getting where he is now? What is done is done love or hate the guy we our stuck with him. We just have to learn faster.

The Child is a citizen according to the Supreme Court, not the parents. That was my point to kick the parents out. It is the parents decision what to do with the child.

 Unfortunately nullification will not work. Apparently only Congress can and it won’t and there is no time and even if there was, it would not get rid of laws that were passed by Congress. They would probably stand until repealed or SCOTUS 3 yrs from hearings if brought and accepted struck them down.
The only choice is to vote the identity challenged  out of office.

 I’m not embarrassed asking the putative President for his actual long-form birth certificate; why should I be? I’m proud that I stand for the vetting of a presidential candidate. He hides his past, when his past should be open to public scrutiny.

 Seems you are saying if Obama was of a Majority race it would be OK for him to be POTUS  also ?? 
    It don’t and  will never  GAS what race Obama is, Period.
  Also: Can you prove what Race Obama is ?  Nope, so your pity party about minorities being the reason for Arizona’s demand  is a moot subject & immature Cop out. , just as it has always been, 
.
  The Arizona SOS isn’t asking Obama to Prove his Racial makeup.  That’s illegal in all cases, not to mention immaterial  & no more than BS diversion from the Truth.
  Arizona is asking Hawaii’s records agency to show the Original Freekin Birth Certificate. Period.
   And You & all your’s Dam well know race has not one dammed thing to do with it. . 

Remember, Glenn Beck, that Lt. Col. Lakin is sitting in prison for this very cause. He was not a coward. He stood by his convictions based on the U.S. Constitution. He was not afraid to be called a ‘birther’ as some of our ‘conservative’ brethren are. Even if Mr. Obama can prove his birthright, Lt. Colonel Lakin is a hero. The weak-kneed ‘conservatives’ are not, and they have abandoned him and the search for truth.

 Children are not of legal age.

Thanks Onemanarmy you seem to be making my case better than I. Maybe some one will get it. One did and graciously admitted his error. No reply tab so I couldn’t thank him for telling me.
Glad to know I’m not alone. I was beginning to wonder until you and merrybones added your rational learned voices.
I am a little dismayed to be attacked as a troll on an allegedly conservative site. So many of these people are using liberal troll tactics and lib irrationality. No wonder the libs/obama camp label conservatives crazy. Many of these people qualify at least in light of their rejection of the plain meaning and logic of the evidence put in front of them.
And their “evidence”? Appalling. Most cite an Indonesian document that lists Barry Soetero as born in Hawaii, yet they won’t accept that as any evidence that he most likely was born there. So far, they all ignore the logic, but have yet to claim the “conspiracy to defraud” started with his adoption.

That has nothing to do with nothing… Having a anchor baby doesn’t give the parents citizenship in the constitution.

My brother and my cousin both have dual citizenship….. my parents and my aunt and uncle do not have citizenship in the other country!

Nowhere is natural born defined as 2 citizen parents, not even Minor says that despite the pitiful attempts to reinterpret the clear and plain decision to say so. Nowhere is Minor cited as precedent in any citizenship case because it never was.
Your post is illogical and incomplete.

the BC that was released 4-27-11 is on GREEN SECURITY PAPER that was not patented until the late 1980′s and released for general public consumption in the 1990′s. SO WHY IS BECK SO OPPOSED TO EXPOSING THE FRAUD THAT OBAMA IS.  IS BECK TRYING TO GET THIS MAN RE ELECTED INTO OFFICE OR WHAT.  I USED TO ENJOY BECK BUT DAMN BECK  U NEED TO GET YOUR ASS OUT OF YOUR HEAD.
THE GREEN PAPER THAT OBAMA RELEASED AS HIS BC IS NOT EVEN REAL NOT A FORGERY JUST NOT REAL
A REAL BC WILL BE EITHER BLACK LETTERING WITH WHITE BACKGROUND OR NEGATIVE EFFECT OF WHITE LETTERS BLACK BACKGROUND

 Your post is the first to say attend school in Malaysia. I didn’t know that was a country associated with the allegations of fraud and citizenship.
 A minor child cannot renounce his US citizenship; he can acquire additional citizenship through a parent without losing his natural born status. It is asserted by many posters herein that Soetero enrolled his adopted son in private Catholic school in Indonesia and listed his birthplace as Hawaii and his citizenship as Indonesian. At the age of 21, the now adult with dual citizenship can renounce his US citizenship or just take up residence and be a US citizen, natural born, eligible for the highest office.
Where is the fraud? the law estabilishing the fraud and criminalizing it and proof of fraud? and the harm from the fraud that gives standing to anyone to sue POTUS in court or prosecute him for fraud? What agency or law can accomplish nullification of his presidency?
It is a losing issue…..

   For the thousandth freekin  time .

   For nearly 4 years “We The Evil Idiotic Birthers “, aka American Citizens , have been asking Obama & his Communist enabler  gang to Show the F-ing Original Birth Document.
    Not any F-ing Communist Congress “Members” on any so called ideological side of the fake  R, D & I dog & pony show Isle has acknowledged Obama’s Birth issue
   . Ref;  Members /  Definition: of,  ”Member’s”  /  ref to a Reproductive body extremity,  aka D–kheads.

  It “IS” NOT OUR JOB TO PROVE JACK SHEET about where Obama was actually Born. PERIOD. 
     It “IS” our Right & Duty as Americans  to do as Glenn Beck / The Hypocrite , always says, Question Everything. 
    I resent, very , very , very much,  all you Non-Birthers dumping someone else’s Dammed Responsibilities  & Duties on People who have as much “Right” to question the Main issue of a very suspicious set of circumstances that brought ALL of America’s citizens a Fraudulent POTUS. . 

   Btw: Did I mention, I’m really , really , really , PO’d at all the  people who claim to be Patriots calling other Patriots , Birthers and creating exactly what Rules for Radicals & The Communist Manifesto prescribed to divide the opposition. ?? 

   The naysayers cannot be required to  agree with what they call Birthers,  Nor can the Birthers be required to Respect those who show no Respect for those who have the same rights in kind.  However, It would be to both sides advantage & Freedom to GAS what , why, & where other’s opinions might be borne of.

So I guess Glenn is talking out his ass when he quotes the last line in the Declaration of Independence;

“And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.”

No surprise there.

If what you are saying is true about Glenn’s family being threatened, then why does he discuss this topic and ridicule those who are not afraid to demand answers?

What are you referring to about the Clintons being threatened and caving… on what?

colossally irrelevant. Paternity does not matter. Jus soli is the standard, place of birth. All court cases, all the statements by the author of the 14th amendment all laws pertaining to citizenship all legal opinions and sholarship state the obvious. truth, born here equals natural born equals eligibility.
Your ignorance is astounding.

Can you show me just one thing that proves that he is a US Citizen.  And where I can find it.

   I’m a Proud Patriotic “Birther” because those in Charge of the Truth refuse to be.

Yes we have.  End of discussion.

How about the way he wears his pants. He must have been raised watching Family Matters to copy erkel, wearing his pants like that. 

The elusive documentation must only be privy to the media.

Glenn doesn’t give 2 craps about the military or LTC Lakin, he’s made that quite obvious. He has a platform that could aid greatly in getting this issue resolved and hopefully ensure the military has a legit CIC, but he won’t doublecross his daddy. What cracks me up about people like Glenn, Hannity, Levin, etc is that they seem to think if they don’t doublecross Obama that they will have a special place in his possible dictatorship, he’ll abandon them as fast as the rest of us. Glenn is what you refer to as a useful idiot.

With everything that has been exposed by Glenn about this administration, you accuse him of wanting BO’s re-election? Incredible, just incredible!

You must not have ever been in the military, there’s no more important issue than a legit CIC with no foreign loyalties.

Why don’t you tell us all about Obama’s extensive Military backround?

Dude one thing that I am absolutely certain of is if Obama/Soetoro is on the ballot, he will “win”. The same people that got him on the ballot and kept him in office despite all of Congress and half this country knowing he’s ineligible will make sure he wins. I have no doubt Paul or Romney would stomp him in a clean and fair election, it’s not going to happen. It’s vital this guy is not on the ballot. Do a ballot challenge in your state like many of us are doing. I will even give you mine if you email me, you can just put your name on it. 
obamaballotchallenge.com

 Not only a citizen but a natural born citizen, a citizen AT Birth, and eligible for highest 2 offices.

Let’s be real, he exposed things that nobody can do anything about, stuff anybody that spends a few hours on google can find. When it comes to something like this, something that would rile people up and cause them to send a wave of complaints to their “representatives”, he’s not only silent but he insults us. I got the feeling after Arpaio’s conference, Beck was either gotten to or he’s just another coward like Levin who is in this for the money and in bed with Obama. I’m leaning more towards the latter after this article.

I have no doubt he is fully aware of Obama’s ineligibility, but let’s pretend he isn’t. If he spent even 1/4 of the time looking into this issue, his jaw would drop. It’s the most obvious and blatant attack on our Const. in this nation’s history and he refuses to even touch it. His silence speaks volumes. 

Don’t get me wrong, he is entertaining, but I’m not going to spend part of my hard earned paycheck to listen to him pretending like he cares about the Constitution, then ignores the most obvious issue.

Rufree
Imagine for a moment that a traffic cop pulls over a driver. The first thing he does is ask to see a driver’s license.  Why, becaues driving is a privlege and has eligibility requirements and responsibilities.

Suppose that driver says “Oh I have one.  Take my word for it.”  Will the officer say “OK!”  Not on your life because the law requires that the driver have that license on them if they are driving.

Suppose that officer goes back to his car to run the driver’s name and the driver says “You can’t do that–you have to take my word for it.  In fact, I have called friends of mine in high places and they said they will block your access to the state computers and criminal records.”

What do you expect that officer to do?

He would likely arrest the suspect until they can be identified and this can all be sorted out.  They are at minimum not complying with the law requiring they carry a license.

Now would happen if a by stander came up and told the officer “Don’t you have something better to do?” and even began to interfere with the arrest?

well, that is not far off with what we have here: obstruction of justice.

Maybe we can all email him and ask him to devote just one show to call ins from “birthers” so he can debunk all the proof we throw at him. If he really isn’t in bed with Obama and using intentionally using Alinsky tactics, then I guarantee you this guy will jump on the bandwagon. This is the most important and most obvious issue in the history of this nation. We have a freakin foreign usurper commanding our military.

If he’d even take emails or whatever. Debunk what we have to say with proof, otherwise it pretty much proves he’s part of the same MSM he supposedly is different than.

RUFREE: 

   No one seems to have connected McCain’s phony run for POTUS with Obama getting elected either. Imo: McCain was & is no more than a Socialist Trojan Horse.
   Yes: I’m aware that this is a useless op at this point in Obama’s regime but I never had the feeling McCain’s heart was really in the running.

    His POW status got McCain where he is in the political world. However, I have assumed questions about whether he Was broken by the Communist Viet Nam captors and became one of the enemy’s political mules.
     Many of McCain’s ideas sure mirror & support what I call the Socialist agenda
  . Ref; Immigration / illegal  Amnesty, Welfare entitlements etc, along with a strange way of deciding which nation the U.S. should go up against , be it diplomatically or militarily. 

   Seriously , I don’t think Glenn would fall into this scenario/ category but why does he refuse to use his power as a commentator to take on the very issue that could have prevented so much chaos in 2008  and possibly cause Obama to be removed from all state’s  2012 ballots.

   The only reason Beck refuses to go after the Birth issue that  I can assume, would be that all Talk Show host have been threatened in some manner regarding their future  & or more.
   

  Elegy56:   Well Said.  Thank You !!!!!!

I’m not certain why he hasn’t yet used his influence, I’m trusting him on that. I suspect Glenn has lots up his sleeve……he has yet to disappoint me; I have faith, do you?
McCain……can’t stand that guy.

 You can’t speak for all, legal.
I hear Beck to say it is a dead issue, because the courts have uniformly ruled it dead, no case brought by citizens (or Orly Taitz) have prevailed, have standing or they have been rejected by the courts, including SCOTUS.  Even the  Indonesian school records cited by “birthers” (sorry, I don’t know what else to call them) indicate birth in Hawaii (were those forged also and by whom?) which to all intents and purposes means Obama is not just a citizen by virtue of his mother’s citizenship but a natural born citizen with eligibility for highest office.
It is an issue going nowhere and distracting from getting rid of him by the only means available to citizens, voting someone else in.

 http://africanpress.me/2012/03/09/president-obama-will-be-forced-by-circumstances-to-apologise-genuine-birth-certificate-surfaces-americans-have-been-led-to-believe-otherwise-revelation-to-change-the-political-landscape/

The African Press International has published Obama’s Kenyan Birth certificate.
the 9th of May this year 2012 »

President Obama will be forced by circumstances to apologise:
Genuine Birth Certificate surfaces – Americans have been led to believe
otherwise, revelation to change the political landscape

Posted by African Press International on March 9, 2012

By api
Now it is here and places the president in the African continent.
The debate surrounding it will now end after the revelation, and those
who have not been telling the truth will have to be made answerable one
way or another.
The revelation, however, coming during this election year 2012 is doing no good to the democratic party.
 API on Tuesday the 6th March evening received President Obama’s
genuine birth certificate. API decided not to hurry in publishing it
immediately because we wanted to be sure of the content value.
Now that the scrutiny has been done, the publishing of the Birth
certificate that will clear the air once and for all is being done
without prejudice. This may force the US president to apologise to the
American people for having been kept in the dark on the issue for a long
time now on demanding the publishing of the birth certificate by
President Obama.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XWmWO18GTc8#!
video of cold case posse
Go the “API Article Calls Obama ‘Kenyan Born” video that I just Favorited. The comment gives reference to the Kenyan website
and 3/25/2010 National Assembly Official Report that has these
statements on page 31. I encourage all interested to go download the
document as it is one more piece that will help others see that we many
need to question the background of the current occupier of the oval
office.

   When Beck refers / Labels me in a disrespectful manner , as a Birther , it doesn’t garner any respect from those who listen to him. 
  Any & all reasons for Beck’s constant dissing of the “Other” point of view just doesn’t work for me. 

   I am more open minded than I might seem here about the Birther issue and for some strange reason , I sort of expect the same from Beck.

     There can’t be a one sided debate on something so many want cleared up.  
     I understand Beck is trying to keep us from becoming divided and empowering the other side. 
   However, would it be more advantageous to all on the same side to at least acknowledge the “Birther’s” position ?  
   I just acknowledged Beck’s position and pride hasn’t struck me down so why do I still  feel singled out as being some sort of wacko ?? 
   Imo: Beck may be as guilty as myself in falling for the diversion tactics that he warns his listeners to be aware of. 
   Question is, Which chain of events is a diversion from what event.
   I’ll say the many events after Obama was seated are multi faceted and all are intertwined to distract from the other issues. 

   Seems I recall reading something about the creation of Chaos, Confusion, Conflicts & Division for the Greater Good. 

    I reckon all I’m suggesting is “We” pick one issue and go for it, full throttle ahead ,  while ignoring the many other distractions & or diversions , which ever single event fits the bill so to speak.

   The Birth issue was the First infraction and I suspect it would be the issue that would trump all other illegalities from Obama’s camp.
  Dammed near all of Obama’s actions to date could be his undoing if any single  action was addressed in a lawful & Constitutional manner. 

  Sort of like  parents have to do when trying to get to the bottom of  a child’s misbehaving.  It’s seldom what a parent would have assumed to be the underlying problem when the child has committed multiple infractions while  throwing  out too many excuses. 

this video didn’t play so i’ll respond to what i’ve just read.

first:  if your parents are from somewhere other than an american territory, they are not american, obviously.  if you are the offspring of them, born in america you are an american and i make that concession for bho, as i would anybody. second:  i think you’re wrong, mr. beck. the truth we seek is simple.  i’m not a “birther,” however, i’ve yet to see a valid birth certificate…have you?  no, you have not.  and you cannot say that the one hawaii has provided will do.  truth doesn’t work like that — you know it and i’m very surprised you’re willing to sit this one out.  third:  i think your “who benefits from this inquiry?” is what guides your final opinion on this.  maybe you think bho has a card up his sleeve and will produce his “real” birth certificate in the end and this will cause the nation to rally around him like an underdog. fourth:  i don’t care about the means to an end strategy.  we have a very specific process in america which we must cling to, to save our life.  i want to know w/documentation held under the highest of scrutiny where this guy was born — and i do mean this guy.  when my interests are represented in washington, i’ll start respecting.  until then, i don’t trust them, 99.999% of them, as far as i can throw them.

 I checked the link it plays, it does take a second or two. I am not a birther but I live in Hawaii and know they are lying.

“finetapestry” — you ain’t that fine.  you have no idea what you’re talking about — not a clue.  you have no idea what beck stands for.  you’re not too bright to render opinions based on what people tell you.  you should change that — it will help in life if you do.

How bout saving me the agony of searching for the link and posting the link ?

   No one has sited where, or which link they refer to. 
Oops, I think I spotted it. Sorry.

The first is African Press International a newspaper in Africa that has
published Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.The second is a press
conference with Sheriff Arpios cold case posse.
 http://africanpress.me/2012/03/09/president-obama-will-be-forced-by-circumstances-to-apologise-genuine-birth-certificate-surfaces-americans-have-been-led-to-believe-otherwise-revelation-to-change-the-political-landscape/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XWmWO18GTc8#!

Thanks, sorry about not seeing it in the earlier post. 

Any American wanting proof of BHO’s birthplace is a patriot……..the title of “birthers” is demeaning! Labeling anyone, to me seems disrestful….. we deserve better, yes?

Zsuzi, your post is spot on. I suspect in due time, Glenn will come clean.

He has already done this, but it is still brought up by birthers, racist radical righties, Romney’s Arizona Co-Chair, etc…

 Here are the original four broadcasts opening the shocking news on the
discoveries about Barack Obama’s fraudulently held Connecticut Social
Security Number. You must hear it to believe it.

==================================

Barack H. Obama – AKA Harrison J. Bounel – Deadbeat and Tax Fraud

Barack Obama’s known identity theft schemes: Debt Collector; Obama’s
Social Security number reserved for Connecticut applicants also tied to
an alias Harrison J Bounel. The debt collector also claims Obama has
used two other Social Security numbers in Illinois. This interview
covers several issues ranging from O’s SS# to his property tax filings
in Chicago to 50+ different addresses tied to Obama and Michelle across
the country. The interview aired on TruNews Radio 5/18/2011. -

1) Someone used a fake property identification number to secure a $1.34
million Fannie May/ Freddie Mac “poverty” loan on Barack Obama’s
Illinois mansion.

2) Barack Obama’s mansion moved through a trust company called Northern
Trust, and has had six (6) different property identification numbers.
All real estate is supposed to have only one (1) PIN. Someone was trying
very hard to conceal the train of ownership of Obama’s Illinois
mansion.

3) The above mentioned property scheme is called “layered ownership.”
The Illinois law firm Obama worked for specialized in “layered
ownership”.

4) Evidently, Barack Obama, using the false identity “Harrison J.
Bounel”, secured a loan and then “skipped” – i.e., disappeared with the
intention of never paying the loan back.

The information here has been cross-checked and verified by two independent professional private investigators.

http://www.archive.org/details/ObamasFakeSocialSecurityNumberIdentity-TaitzVAstrue

http://www.archive.org/details/P.i.SusanDanielsInterviewAboutObamasIdentityFraud

http://www.archive.org/details/Demonstration-ObamaswhiteHouseIssueBirthCertificateABlatantForgery

http://www.archive.org/details/WashingtonTimes-NewlyReleasedObamaBirthCertificateForgery

http://www.archive.org/details/ObamasNewwhiteHouseIssueBirthCertificate-RealOrAnotherFake

http://www.archive.org/details/ElectionsOfficialAdamsAffidavitAttestingNoHawaiiBirthRecordForObama

http://www.archive.org/details/BarackObama-BornInKenya-TheDocumentary

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supposed owner of 5046 S Greenwood Ave., the Obamaâs supposed home
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Your right.
President Obama wouldn’t have a chance to be President during Jefferson’s life time because he would have either been Jefferson’s slave or representing 3/5ths of a vote to another slave owner!!!

Take your racist garbage back to Media Matters you ignorant fool.

Chickenshit little Atheist wimp with your moronic Spawn of Ferrell children from prostitutes on the corner.
“I guarantee that after a serious discussion, your pointless little comments would end. I would love to meet a little twerp like you face to face.”
LMFBO

I can’t prove where Resident -0bama was born, all I know is that I don’t like his politics.

???? who claimed service and did not serve? What law exists that will deprive a sitting President of his citizenship, his office and his residency? Who can prosecute? What is the proof that will get a warrant or bill of indictment or impeachment?
If lying and cowardice could do what you suggest, Clinton would have been deprived of office for perjury, obstruction of justice, conduct unbecoming and public televised lie. He wasn’t. He only had to surrender his unused law license.
So There OOOOPS you are out! take a hike to Cuba or somewhere they suffer fools and idiots, that would be nowhere.
 

one man army,

I post as much as possible straight from the Court/Gov. cases themselves, they are not my words but the legal findings available to all.

I must thank you for the info. you put out that I enjoyed digging into the history pages to research. I found many side items that are interesting, I will look for stories on from that time period.

Unfortunately you have proven to me by your posts you are a fool. A child with temper tantrums, you rant on many on this board who read the cases much different from you. 
You are not worthy of my time anymore, maybe one day you will grow up.

That was a Copy…. you cannot get a passport with a copy

No.. actually Glenn has been against the birther issue. If you remember the joke birth certificate Glenn put on the site about a year ago, showing obama’s parents living at 1313 Muslim ave… or something like that…. it was a joke against the birthers.

Again, review the Supreme Court Case, 1875, of Minor vs Happersett, which defines, in a legal, supreme court precident, a “natural born citizen” as one with two citizen parents…Simple English, by the way, as well.  SO please people stop saying it is not defined…

We are not violating the Child’s rights.. they can stay…. but the parents can’t…. that doesn’t violate the Child’s rights.

You cannot use a copy of your birth certificate…. try copying you drivers license and the next time you get pulled over try using the copy of your drivers license. Go and try and get a passport with a copy of your birth certificate and see what they do…after they stop laughing. Go to the local store and buy a pack of cigarettes or some beer with a copy of your drivers license..

This can go on forever but i think you get the point…. a copy doesn’t mean squat!

You can only use a certified Sealed Copy of your Birth Certificate, the state has the only Original, and it must have a raised seal on it.

At no time in American history has this been such an issue.
Now, the first minority President must prove, time and time again of his proven citizenship.
Why is this? birthers and righties can dance and throw up smoke screens as much as they want. It is a racist attack.

glenn isn’t stupid enough to claim Obama isn’t a natural born citizen and that isn’t his goal.
glenn beck realizes that a huge number of his lemmings are racist birthers and love this topic.
glenn beck is happy enough keeping the story alive, even if he always throws in his comments about not believing the story.

Again…
No…
President Obama was placed on the ballot of every state in the last election. He proved that he was a natural born citizen. Now, with his inevitable re-election moving along racist and bigoted birthers are finding every excuse in the book to try and sell their lie.

Mother’s copy of bc (carbon of original) sometimes works… they don’t make bc like they used to

So I take it that you never heard of Martin Van Buren?
How about Chester A. Arthur?
Both were Presidents that had their citizenship questioned.
How about these candidates for President:
Presidential Candidates who have had their Citizenship Questioned
· Christopher Schurmann 1896 Election
· Charles Evans Hughes 1916 Election
· George Romney 1968 Election
· Barry Goldwater 1964 Election
· Lowell Weicker 1980 Election
· Roger Calero 2004 and 2008
· John McCain 2000 and 2008

Want to lie some more?

Questioned, answered then moved on.
Not questioned…Accused of forgeries…Elected and served as President…Questioned once again and accused of lying once again…
Ignoring your job to conduct internet searches doesn’t prove sh**!!!

Except for the fact that you claimed it had never before happened in history, therefore you lied. You do understand that two of them had it questioned twice right? Gt anymore lies for us mtcalytboy, the lying toilet cleaner?

Do you remember writing this lie?
strtlk

At no time in American history has this been such an issue.
Now, the first minority President must prove, time and time again of his proven citizenship.
Why is this? birthers and righties can dance and throw up smoke screens as much as they want. It is a racist attack.

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It is my regular day off you lying sack of trash. Stay stupid. Even if I had worked today, I would have clocked out over 6 hours ago.

Get your facts straight. He served 6 months has been out for awhile. He pled guilty and said he was wrong to say what he said and that he wouldn’t do it again. He did not stand on his convictions, he abandoned the birther position and is no hero. He was in the service as a physician, subject to deployment, ordered to deploy by superior officers, NOT Obama, had no lawful or Constitutional ability to refuse deployment based on an unfactual and unproven allegation that Obama was not eligible to be President, admitted that, pled guilty, served his time and was dishonorably discharged and stripped of his license to practice medicine. Some hero. He is very sorry that he took the position.

 Does  not “pine in prison” has not been for months-served 6 months-released in 2011. BTW he pled guilty, apologized for the birther video, said he shouldn’t have done it at all and would never do it again.
Had nothing to do with Obama-his superior officers brought him up on charges for disobeying their orders to deploy. He had no standing to refuse such an order.

 What is your proof that anything you have posted is true?

According to the SC, lower courts, legal opinion immigration law  and practice, the natural born citizen child upon reaching 21, can return to the US and be a citizen, or renounce his citizenship by not returning.

 According to the SC, lower courts, legal opinion immigration law  and
practice, the natural born citizen child upon reaching 21, can return to
the US and be a citizen, or renounce his citizenship by not returning.

Amigo,

How or what would “neutral principle” say about the “birther” issue? Procedural due process should require a fair, equal and appropriately necessary, security clearance for anyone filing for participation in a Presidential election?  In fact, there is a Federal security organization that does just that–run security checks!Unfortunately, a plurality of Americans just don’t seem to care?  When one group’s political desires become so important to that group, that the group abandons character and integrity to achieve their political goal, should be warning of what that groups governance will resemble?Purveyor

I understand your sentiments, even share them to a degree, but, what you are suggesting is that the birth certificate, is NOT a substantive issue?  Hmm…  

Unfortunately, you appear to blaming the victims, the citizenry who want what should be, a very simple question, answered. Why not voice your dismay at the man who failed to answer the question, not at those who have asked such?

Surely, if the President and Congress tasked, say the FBI, or other respected investigative agency to put this dilemma to rest, most “birthers” would accept the FBI’s results.  THEN we could move on!  As long as the citizens are merely told by one or the other political group about this issue’s veracity, well…?

Purveyor

Purveyor
Good morning

Our Declaration put forth the ONLY legitimate source of power in a nation:  the consent of the people.  

“The fabric of American empire ought to rest on the solid basis of THE CONSENT OF THE PEOPLE. The streams of national power ought to flow from that pure, original fountain of all legitimate authority.” –Alexander Hamilton The Federalist Papers Federalist No. 22 December 14, 1787

We are a Constitutional Republic and that WRITTEN document embodies “the consent of the people.”   This is far different from other kinds of arrangements, monarchies, democracies, despotisms, anarchies, etc.  This WRITTEN Constitution is the supreme law of the land for that one simple reason:  it reflects THE CONSENT OF THE PEOPLE–OUR CONSENT as to how we will live together in society. This statement of consent is set in stone except for an amending mechanism that is contained within the document itself.

Most people do not realize the significance of this, but the Founders explained it.  Take for example this, by George Washington:

“The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and to alter their Constitutions of Government. But the Constitution which at any time exists, till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people, is sacredly obligatory upon all.  The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish Government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established Government.”  —George Washington, Farewell Address.

For our discussion here, just note what he says about the basis of our political system is that we the people have a right to make and alter our Constitution of government…but it must be done ONLY by a legitimate move of the people as described, by the people, in the Constitution itself.  Until then, it is indeed set in stone.

There are always those who seek to impose their will, outside the Constitutional restrictions, without that legitimte movement of the people.  This is as antithetical to our system as fire and water.

This movement is NOT a majority opinion, or a flash of passion in our nation…the Constitution resists those for they are NOT the amending process.

Notice something Madison wrote:

“There is no maxim, in my opinion, which is more liable to be misapplied, and which, therefore, more needs elucidation, than the current, that the interest of the majority is the political standard of right and wrong.” –James Madison, letter to James Monroe, 1786

In our nation, as far as law is concerned, right and wrong are what that document says until it is legitimately changed for it reflects the CONSENT OF THE PEOPLE.

Those who seek to skirt that comit crimes against the people and their Constitution and against the society based on it.

Imagine the hypocrisy of one saying that for the good of the people we must disregard the Constitution that reflects their legitimate consent–and that protect us from THEM..

This is the tale of tyrants or anarchists who would throw off those chains WE have put on them.

God bless

I certainly agree. Curious isn’t it, that your language, your vernacular, is considered quaint, even passe’ by some, when I find the words of our Founders inspiring and beautiful? “Miracle” at Philadelphia?

Anyway, my point to you in our first conversations as well as this one was/is to make the case that our Constitution is the embodiment of “neutral principle?” Whether one is reading the preamble to the Declaration, the Bill of Rights or the Constitution proper, I see and feel neutral principles that articulate the very essence of being human and child of God.

So, I am off to the Gun range as Monday is my shooting day. (Colt 1911) I am considering acquiring my concealed permit, finally! Anyway, we’ll talk later?

Purveyor

My post had nothing to do with the President, his citizenship, residency or any kind of prosecution. It had nothing to do with impeachment or indictment.

It also had nothing to do with Clinton.

Take your ignorant crap somewhere else you moron.

Chickenshit little Atheist wimp with your moronic Spawn of Ferrell children from prostitutes on the corner.
“I guarantee that after a serious discussion, your pointless little comments would end. I would love to meet a little twerp like you face to face.”
LMFBO

Chickenshit little Atheist wimp with your moronic Spawn of Ferrell children from prostitutes on the corner.
“I guarantee that after a serious discussion, your pointless little comments would end. I would love to meet a little twerp like you face to face.”
LMFBO

Chickenshit little Atheist wimp with your moronic Spawn of Ferrell children from prostitutes on the corner.
“I guarantee that after a serious discussion, your pointless little comments would end. I would love to meet a little twerp like you face to face.”
LMFBO

Chickenshit little Atheist wimp with your moronic Spawn of Ferrell children from prostitutes on the corner.
“I guarantee that after a serious discussion, your pointless little comments would end. I would love to meet a little twerp like you face to face.”
LMFBO

Yeah, another “Inconvenient Truth” just poped up for BHO.  It’s time the hard working American voters to deal this fake a”NO VOTE” this Nov.

I never understood Beck’s strong objection to the birther movement – (though I don’t count myslef as a birther, because I suspect obama’s father is frank marshall davis) considering this statement:  “The guy’s life story is fiction.  It’s fiction,” Glenn said. “He’ll create anything he has to be create depending on who he’s with, what he’s doing, so he can fit in, and he can be the star.”  Beck says that everything about this guy is fiction; so why not his birthplace – and I fail to see how two documents that have been released prove where or when obama was born – since BOTH have been proven to be fake.  I simply don’t understand Beck’s reluctance, virtually every member of the Congress – you name them – I don’t understand the reluctance to vet somene who will not produce a true document related to his brithplace and time.  Could you or I do that to get a passport, for example?  NO we couldn’t – so why does hussein get a pass?

As someone who immigrated to this country “legally”, it really pisses me off when I hear of the transgressions to our laws and to our Constitutuion that millions of people in this country do every single day. 
 
I saw that electronically manipulated document at Obama presented to the news media. I was NOT impressed. I believe that we should use the absence of Mr. Obama’s “original long form” birth certificate as a reason to allow each individual State from not allowing him to file for reelection within their States. 
 
While I absolutely concurr that the Economy is THE primary election issue, and that Mr. Obama and his Socialists have been deliberately working to destroy our economy as a means to aid in their attempt to overthrow our Constitutional government, it is not the only issue in play. 

If this nation allows Mr. Obama to continue as President, KNOWING that he has not presented the proper documentation, it creates a legal precidence for all that follow.  This is intollerable and MUST be stopped.

I agree with a lot of your posts, but not this one.

He touched on a lot of subjects, but it was up to us to do the research to verify that it was accurate. He also brought back an interest in our history which I was glad to see BUT, when it came to the most important thing on the menu — he left us starving!

The lawsuits about Obama’s eligibility started BEFORE he was even elected. Once he was sworn into office, the only ones that can do anything about him is Congress. It’s obvious they have been bought off or scared off!

Glenn could have used his influence when his show was at it’s peak, to get people to write their Congressmen to do an investigation to vet Obama BEFORE he did all the damage that he’s done to this country. If enough people had made it an issue, Congress couldn’t have ignored it like they’ve done.

Whatever good Beck did has been completely undone by his failure to address this issue. I know he was facing fierce opposition, but he knew he would get that anyway with the other stuff he was saying. He didn’t even have to go after Obama directly. He could have done a couple of shows about what natural-born means and come up with all the evidence that has been on the net for the past four years. It was something that a LOT of people were interested in so he would have gotten good ratings to satisfy Fox.

I know I was one of the people who was bombarding him with FACTS for years already. All he had to do was put those FACTS on his show. Who could fault him for giving the people FACTS?

I know there was a quote in these posts by Jefferson that said that when enough people learn the truth (facts) they will do something about it. The TRUTH is that Beck is helping keep Obama in office by ridiculing “birthers”!

I am so disappointed in Glenn these days.  Reread the constitution.  Obama was and is not qualified to run for President or be President.  He committed fraud.  I was raised in Williamsburg, VA and know a little more about this than the average folk.  Do your homework Glenn this man has committed massive fraud on the American people and you need to wake up to that.  He should be in jail or at least deported from this country. 

Glenn, you and many other conservative personalities are taking the easy way out.  This isn’t just some random guy wearing unearned medals–claiming that he earned them–all the while exercising his supposed “free speech.”  This was a US Senator and is the President of the United States.  George Washington never claimed to have cut down a cherry tree and then owned up to it.  Others made those claims about him.  This man claimed to be that which he is not.  The issue is that the media refused to vet him–that and the increasing likelihood that he was never qualified to hold the office that he now serves.  He is an emeny of the State, and nobody in the media will call him out.  You’re all complicit in this act of treason against our country and our country’s Constitution.  We all know the released birth certificate was falsified.  We all know he uses a Social Security Number that could not have been issued to him by the Social Security Administration.  We all suspect that he recieved foreign aid to attend college, and we all know he is destroying America from the inside out.  We don’t have a voice outside of those personalities such as yourself, and none of you are speaking for us.

I think the answer to you post is in this quote: 
John Adams – Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

If our government wasn’t so corrupt, Obama would never be in office.

Robinsthoughts is correct. handsoffmyhealth is a moron. handsoffmyhealth read, research and learn. Stop regurgitating the bile of the deniers and progressives. The Kool Aid can not possibly be that good!

I think you give bama too much credit. The birther movement is born and is sustained because of the multitudinous facts bama tried to hide from the people from the beginning. The College records, his ties to unions, certain domestic terrorists, lack of willingness to disclose his birth certificate, Rev. Wright, etc. This man is hiding something very,very important; and more power to those who try to expose it. Even if they are wrong about the certificate, at least they might discover enough truth along the way to finally expose this man for the criminal most thinking people know (in their heart) him to be.

My major concern here is the full breath of lies streaming from this man’s mouth… He has proven that he is a temporary puppet to anyone with wealth and/& power to take him where he wants to go. The million dollar question is, ‘Where is exactly is he going?’ Is he looking to be the head of the UN?? It seems like it to me, he’s more concerns about himself & global power than excelling America & helping to pull us out of a terrible economy / debt situation.

Okay, Lefty — it was a railroad job and you know it. His attorney was NOT allowed to give any evidence to defend him.

It is EVERY military personnel’s job to protect and defend the Constitution. He not only had a right, but an obligation to question if the Commander and Chief is a legitimate office holder. Or do YOU think a foreigner should be President?

The REASON our Founders put the natural-born clause in the Constitution was to keep FOREIGN influence OUT of our government and especially away from the Commander of our armies!

Obama (citizen of the world) goes to the U.N. for direction instead of our Congress who represents the PEOPLE who are supposed to be the POWER in this country.

This country is going to hell because too many people are afraid of being called racist because they DARE to ask who the hell Obama really is!

Obama is the Trojan Horse that will destroy this country because enough people just don’t care!

Holy smokes!  Something’s wrong with me.  I came to the same conclusion Glenn Beck came to involving this story before I read the story.  I used to have to wait until Glenn actually says something that made sense to me before I started thinking this way.  Could it be I’m making my own sensical conclusions? 

It’s been happening for quite a while, now.  Pretty much since he left FOX at 4pm (my time).  I haven’t yet found a way to budget for GBTV, so I’m kind of just getting the newsletter and sometimes catching him on the morning radio in my car.  Hmmm…

I also graduated in the 1960s before the government took over the schools and started to rewrite our history. I loved my American History class but I think they’ve stopped teaching it now. It’s inconvenient truths aren’t politically correct!

The Obama fanatics tell you to come up with one history book that was used in school that taught natural-born meant two citizen parents. I can’t, but I know I was taught that it took two citizen parents and my 89 year old mother says the same thing.

Millions of us can’t be wrong.

An obvious point is that the Founders used different criteria for the eligibility of the President and VP than they did for any OTHER office. It is the ONLY thing in America where it makes a difference. For EVERYTHING ELSE in America you only need to be a citizen or naturalized citizen. WHY would they have specified a DIFFERENT type of citizen if ANYONE born on US soil qualifies? Common sense tells you that they specified “natural-born” for a reason. It was because they wanted a true-blue, died in the wool, honest to God, full blooded AMERICAN as our Commander and Chief with NO foreign influence coming from parents who were NOT US citizens.

The progressives (Communists) have been twisting the meaning of our Constitution for over a hundred years. The “natural-born” clause doesn’t mean a thing to them. It just stands in their way of turning the US into another socialist dictatorship run by some foreigner.

We know we are in the last days when good is called evil and evil is called good. The Obama “useful idiots” don’t know the difference between good and evil. They are the idle minds that are the Devil’s workshop. They are trying to dig a hole so deep for us that they can’t get out of it themselves. WHY are they trying to stop any honest investigation of Obama if they are not TRAITORS to this country? They should welcome the TRUTH IF Obama is qualified like they claim he is. ONLY a NATURAL-BORN citizen should hold the office of President for good reason. Obama is a prime example.

I never considered Beck a stupid man, but he is making a stupid mistake by alienating millions of people who believe as we do. IF he is for TRUTH like he claims, then this issue should be of prime importance to him and anyone else who is trying to stop the one world governance that is trying to take over our country. If he thinks he will be safe from these liars AFTER they take over full control, he has another guess coming.

I, for one, will go down fighting for God, country and TRUTH! 

Sunshine49

Re:”I think the answer to you post is in this quote:  John Adams – Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.  If our government wasn’t so corrupt, Obama would never be in office.”

In a certain sense I agree with you, but with a caveat, and this in no way minimizes the reality of corruption government.  Fair enough?

Adams did not say “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious GOVERNMENT. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” The word he used there is PEOPLE–they had to be moral and religious–THEY are the governed. .The inescapable import of a government of the people, a republic, is that the government will reflect those very people who elect.  The awesome fact is that Obama was not elected by the “government” but the people. 

That is why Madison / Monsesqui listed “virtue” as the characteristic force of a republic…or obviously, the lack there of.

Note:

“But I go on this great republican principle, that the people will have virtue and intelligence to select men of virtue and wisdom. Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. No theoretical checks, no form of government, can render us secure. To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea. If there be sufficient virtue and intelligence in the community, it will be exercised in the selection of these men; so that we do not depend on their virtue, or put confidence in our rulers, but in the people who are to choose them. — James Madison 1788 — speech at the Virginia Ratifying Convention Reference: The True Republican, French, ed. (28-29)

“Public virtue cannot exist in a nation without private, and public virtue is the only foundation of republics. There must be a positive passion for the public good, the public interest, honour, power and glory, established in the minds of the people, or there can be no republican government, nor any real liberty: and this public passion must be superior to all private passions. –John Adams, letter to Mercy Warren, April 16, 1776

It is certainly true that a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people. –Richard Lee letter to Colonel Martin Pickett March 5, 1786

Noah Webster – “When you become entitled to exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers, just men who will rule in the fear of God. The preservation of our republican government depends on the faithful discharge of this duty; if the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office – the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made, not for the public good, so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizens will be violated or disregarded. If a republican government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect their divine commands and elect bad men to make and administer laws.”

And finally, Ben Franklin…and note his concern and vision as to how things would end:

“In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of Government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and [I] believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other.” –Benjamin Franklin, Closing Speech at the Constitutional Convention, September 17, 1787

We simply cannot deny the link of what we have and who we are, and only those who take responsibility can correct it.

God bless

Like WHAT? What is more important than a usurper taking over the office of President? You need to get your priorities straight!

Why would someone have to engineer a birth certificate if they were an American citizen?  Just think about that for a while, Glenn.  When you think you have figured it out, get back to us.  Thanks for nothing.

Maybe this link will help people have a better understanding of the difference between NBC and just citizenship from being born on U.S. soil.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2852742/posts

One of the things I remember from reading the debates in Congress over the 14th Amendment is that they said that the children of aliens “just passing through” did NOT get citizenship for their children born on U.S. soil.

You have to remember one thing when they wrote these laws — they did NOT have illegal immigration at that time. People usually came here to stay and become productive citizens of this country. There was NO welfare to fall back on if you didn’t make it! There were no planes that you could jump on to come over here — have a baby and then leave again. Most of the people who came here back then, came here to STAY. If they were “resident” aliens that were here permanently, their children received citizenship (only) through the 14th Amendment. Those “citizen” children could have NATURAL-BORN children!

Obama’s father was NEVER a “resident” alien or did he ever intend to become a US citizen. He was an alien “just passing through”! By that definition, Obama does NOT receive 14th Amendment citizenship by being born on US soil. At best he would have dual citizenship through his mother IF he was born on US soil and a “dual” citizen is NOT a “natural-born” citizen.

I don’t know how even Glenn Beck can ignore these FACTS!

I think todd replied in facts you can follow…

I don’t think it’s racist…. birthers just don’t want the presidential limo with 22′s…  lol

your correct i was referring to the certified copy that is stamped rather than a copy of it.. The original that the state gives you

So he is using some reverse psychology or something..you sound like some conspiaracy theorist. man you need a job or a hobby!

Come on ST calm down… you’ll hurt the poor boy.. when he talks about the “bush” he’s talking about the one in the backyard or when he’s wife forgets to shave……

I couldn’t agree more i think he would have to have dual citizenship. And he could have filed as such in Kenya or Hawaii..

I do not agree with GB all the time.  He thinks this is a distraction.  I think it is a clear sign of his character and it should be an indicator of who BHO is.  No-one with a bogus SSN should be vetted.  If he claimed he was a foreign student to get loans or grants, that should give people an indication of his honesty and IS an issue.  Most of all, not being a citizen and claiming to be is fraud and should be exposed.  Get a clue Glenn.  There are many other reasons to pursue this issue.

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Take your lunacy somewhere else, normal people don’t really care for your hate mongering.”

You don’t know the meaning of hypocrisy, do you?  Your “lunacy” is following a liar, hypocrite and strange propagandist so extreme that many conservatives have denounced him, and you still post on sites where normal people don’t care at all for your hate-mongering.

(You do know that Beck spouts hatred quite often, right?)

Funny, when we look up Hypocrisy in the Dictionary it says: See Victor Scott Tiffany.

Well Obama’s grandmother said he was born in her house in Kenya. Seems kinda funny that she would get it wrong….. the only “White Devil” born in her house.

The child is NOT a US citizen by our laws. The parent(s) are here ILLEGALLY without the permission of our government. Their status would be the same as an invading army and their children should NOT get citizenship. The parents have NO allegiance to the US and the only jurisdiction we have over them is the same as an invading enemy.

I don’t know which bleeding-heart liberal started giving the children of invaders citizenship, but it needs to cease! All welfare to NON-Americans here illegally needs to cease also. It is a magnet for people to come here illegally just like bees to honey.

If they are LEGAL RESIDENT ALIENS trying to become US citizens, then their children born here should get citizenship. That is what the 14th Amendment is for. 

You wrote: Never believe for a moment that our choice is between our freedom and the Constitution, etc. The Constitution, the rule of law are what guarantee our freedom. They are NOT opposed to each other but one falls with the other NOT the other way around.

I think you misunderstood the point I was trying to make. We may have to take down this government to save our Republic and our Constitution. Our government and our Constitution are what are opposed to each other. As Obama said — “our Constitution is a document of negative laws that says what the government CAN’T do to the people and the States.”

The government is trying to over-ride all those laws and replace it with tyranny! We are already the most regulated people on Earth. We no longer have a government BY THE PEOPLE and for the people.

It is a joke when people think we still have freedom because we are allowed to vote. The only “freedom” you have is what the government allows you to have. They can take it away in a second. THAT IS NOT FREEDOM!

 It does not matter that Glenn has ulterior motives and abused his position of trust with his audience? Glenn is a part of how Mitt got to where he is now. He is nothing more than a propagandist for the Mormon Church that is cashing in along the way.

So how do you plan on learning faster when you turn a  blind eye to how it happened in the first place? There is an old saying, “Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.” With your line of thinking, the shame will always be on you.

All I am saying what is done is done.

You do know that I really, really don’t care for idiots like you and strtlk and what you Liberal morons post, right?

LMFBO

Youz funny. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

The moron threatened the wrong guy didn’t he?

LMFBO

 And all I am saying is with your line of thinking, you will let it be done again.

Sunshine49

Know that in many ways I agree with you…but,it is here that we must be careful. 

There are those among us  who actually insist that the source of our problems is the system itself–ie the Constitutional system, rather than the lawless ones who are ignoring the Constitution they took an oath to defend, and that is not the case.

We must always take into account the unique nature of our nation’s design:

“The natural cure for an ill-administration, in a popular or
representative constitution, is a change of men.”  –Alexander Hamilton The Federalist Papers Federalist No. 21, 1787

It is a change of men that we are after.

God bless

“not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty.” means exactly as it reads.

Allegiance means — the loyalty of a citizen to their government.
Sovereignty means — the status or rule of a sovereign (ruler or government)

That would translate to NOT owing loyalty to any FOREIGN ruler or government like citizens of FOREIGN countries do to their OWN country. Like Obama’s FATHER owed to English ruled Kenya!

I don’t know what the hell YOU think it means, BUT YOU’RE WRONG! It CLEARLY points out that the parents (plural) CANNOT have any allegiance to a foreign country. That also means that they can ONLY be US citizens.

You “useful idiots” are really brainwashed. So much so that your mind twists everything you read!

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

” B O O ”

LMFAO Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

To put it all on Glenn’s head is not the answer. Does he carry some of the blame yes but he was not the only one backing Mitt and to say it was all Glenn’s fault when so many others some with greater pull then Glenn has supported Mitt as well. To focus on Glenn alone is foolish and over looks everyone else.

Maybe he should have a little respect for Ground Pounders. But guess you don’t understand that until someone is actually shooting at you!

Targets don’t shoot back!

I just love when I hear the fake say, “So now, we can start to re-build America again”, as he tells his Chicago thug friends. Listening to him speak makes me ill!

Of course not Jefferson was a Democrat…. don’t you remember Manifest Destiny..? The Anglo-Saxons would rule the continent.

BrendaR, you are absolutely correct. I’m working on my links to expand on my original post. 

The guys a moron posting on a schedule with Media Matters talking points. He’s chickenshit to follow through on his death threats.

What do you expect Steve, he cleans toilets for a living in Seattle.

LMFAO

Well, I don’t know about Glenn, but if my birth place was incorrect, I would get it corrected, but I am from Texas.

Good post, Susnshine49.  I agree, and thanks for your comments.

You are correct, thank you for pointing that out.

Quite all right Firemall … apology accepted.  Also, from the “Btw;” down, I whole-heartedly agree.  I am just not as eloquent as you in making my point!  ;o)

Circumstantial evidence is the mainstay of Beck’s entire crusade for the past 3+ years, yet he cannot or does not seem open to accepting the mounting circumstantial evidence against obama’s credentials.

Hey Beck, why is your agenda against the “socialist/marxist march to the sea” any more important than our exposing the apostasy against the American Republic by a number of far left instigators and operatives?

Absolutely correct.

Heh Sunshine, shining more of the light of truth to the masses?
Smiles

 Oh, but it does matter where he was born. His father was a US Citizen, because he was born to US Citizens on a religious mission.  Where in the law does it require that both parents be US citizens?
  
The Law refutes your claim. the Naturalization Act of 1790 states “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond
sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as
natural born citizens.”
  
The Courts disagree with you, in Lynch v. Clark, (1844) 1 Sandf.Ch. 583 a New York Chancery Court gave a woman born in New York citizenship by virtue of her birth in that state under common law.
   In re Look Tin Sing, a Califoronia court determined  that a child born in the US to Chinese Parents that could not become citizens was still a Natural Born Citizen.
  In Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939), SCOTUS determined that a child born in America to parents that were Swedish and became citizens was a Natural Born Citizen, even though her parents had relinquished their American citizenship.
  
Romney and Obama neither one have foreign allegiances.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

“Glenn is a part of how Mitt got to where he is now.”

Now where did I say that this is all Glenn’s fault? Since we are discussing Glenn Beck’s comments, the focus will be on him at this point in time. Please, try to stay focused.

Most people can draw a reasonable conclusion of someones character by behavioral patterns. Unlike you who wish to ignore and forget these tell-tale signs of a charlatan. Glenn Beck continues to this day of displaying disturbing patterns by attacking people who want the truth, among other things.

“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.”

Plato

Ok I miss understood you my bad.

Also I am not even defending his support for Mitt or even like it. He does not have what he had on fox.

We need more “legal” immigrants like you.

It seems that immigrants know more about our country and our laws then we do. That’s because you are taught more about America than the average student in our schools these days. The progressive left has been brainwashing our children since the 1960s when they took over the school system. To the detriment of our whole country.

I was lucky I graduated before they had a chance to indoctrinate me into their Marxist thinking. But then, I’m assuming you weren’t raised in our school system and I could be wrong.

The “useful idiots” on the left don’t realize that an Obama takeover will be to the detriment of EVERYONE. If he declares Martial Law for any reason, we won’t have a foreign President, but a foreign dictator. What they don’t understand is what he means by “fundamentally transforming” America. I’m sure they won’t like it if he manages to pull it off. But, then again, I don’t understand how the left can ignore facts right before their eyes. Their thinking is totally foreign to me — like Obama’s.

I can’t understand why they want to “change” this country into something like the failed USSR. Why do they want for everyone to be “equal” in slavery? A Marxist Utopia sounds great in theory, but it never works out that way.

Well, here’s “hoping” that you get to enjoy many more years in the REPUBLIC of the United States. 

Reply to your reply below.

On a scale of one to ten — your post is a ten. You have hit the nail on the head, but people don’t want to hear that we are responsible for this mess ourselves.

Where I disagree with you is that I don’t think that Obama was legitimately elected because of all the fraud that went on. As Hannity often says — Obama was anointed, not elected.

All of this corruption started long before Obama and has been escalating through the years. Obama is just the straw that will break the camel’s back — or more accurately, the Trojan Horse that will finish us off.

The problem is that no one in a position to bring the TRUTH to light is willing to stick their neck out. Maybe, in God’s plan, it was meant to be this way.

We are no longer the moral and religious people that John Adams spoke about. Our corrupt government is a reflection of the corruption in our society. The fact that people still back Obama, KNOWING full well he is NOT a Constitutionally qualified person for the office of President, speaks volumes about our society in general. They are willing to ignore the Constitution if it suits their purpose and that spells doom for our Republic.

Keep up the great posts!

Sorry to inform you this, handsoffmyhealth, but you are the one making my case for me. You’re bringing up court cases that not only do you judge TOTALLY incorrectly but that actually ruled EXACTLY as I have said they ruled.

 Sunshine
Thanks…and you too.
Recognizing that we have a problem that extends beyond the current elected official is a mandatory first step.

Notice what kind of people Adams said the Constitution was made for…from your own quote.

Now ,he also said this:

“But what do we mean by the American
Revolution? Do we mean the American war? The Revolution was effected before the
war commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a
change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations…This
radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the
people was the real American Revolution.” 
–John Adams, letter to H. Niles, February 13, 1818

He was talking there about the 1st Great Awakening.

Rest assured that it is true that “A house divided against itself cannot stand.”  God said that, and you can rest assured that HE is not at war with his own kingdom, but with the kingdom of darkness.

So, we have to pick sides…and the dividing line is the first commandment:

Either God is who the Bible and there is a clear Creator / Creature distinction, or there is, as paganism holds, no distinction…all a continuity of being where we ultimately “can be like God.”

The basic decision that determines the rise and fall of nations.

God bless
Prov 1:7

They aren’t your words. Exactly your problem. You see, EVERY SINGLE court case you have listed is proving MY point, NOT yours.

You’re telling ME to grow up. LOL That’s a laugh. At least I’m not misinterpreting the court cases as you have done. Unlike YOU, I am reading from the court cases the EXACT decisions made from those very court cases. You, however, have NOT. Case after case the courts have decided that ALL that is required to be considered a natural born citizen to to be born here and subject to US jurisdiction. Literally EVERY court case has decided that the birthplace of the parents ONLY come into play if you were NOT born here. That has been the decision of EVERY court case since the early 1800s, lol. YOU are the fool who doesn’t believe it.

So, you have made the ridiculous stand u have taken on the birth certificate based on Stu’s research.  Maybe u need to rethink this.  I’ll never forget how quick u and Stu were to denigrate Joe Arpiao’s team that showed  evidence that the birth certificate was “manufactured”, that it was a VERY CONVENIENT loss of the immigration records of people entering the US during the 2 wks around OB’s birth, (which has never happened before or since) , that the stamp on this draft card reeks of forgery,  BUT, HEY, STU SAID THERE WAS NOTHING THERE, SO YOU BOTH “ALINSKY” ARPIAO WITHOUT EVEN TAKING A LOOK AT THE COMMITTEE’S FINDINGS AND EVIDENCE. 

I GUESS THE TRUTH STOPS WHERE STU SAYS IT DOES.  I AM AN AVID SUPPORTER OF WHAT YOU DO, BUT IF YOU EVER BOTHER TO READ ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME OUT AFTER THE REPREHENSIBLE ATTACK YOU AND STU, PAT, TOO MADE ON THE DAY IN QUESTION, U WOULD SEE THAT MOST OF YOUR SUPPORTERS WERE EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED IN YOUR “DON’T BOTHER ME WITH NEW INFO” STANCE.

MANY CEASED THEIR MEMBERSHIP TO GBTV. I DIDN’T, BUT YOU NEW EXPLANATION RE THE BIRTHER FOLKS IS FURTHER EVEIDENCE THAT YOU R PUTTING MUCH TOO MUCH CONFIDENCE IN STU’S INITIAL REPORT AND DISGUSTING MOST OF US WITH YOUR REFUSAL TO EVEN LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE.  IT DOES MAKE ME WONDER. 

STU SHOULD AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A SERIOUS INVESTIGATION AND INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING AMISS.  AS FAR AS I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT STU’S ARGUMENT IS REGARDS THE BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS IN THE LOCAL OAHU PAPERS.  THERE IS PROOF THAT THE PAPERS ACCEPTED THOSE ANNOUNCE MENTS UP TO YEARS AFTER SAID BIRTH AND REQUIRED NOTHING MORE THAN THE RESIDENTS INFO REGARDING SAID BIRTH.

IF MY STUDENTS DID SUCH A LOUSY BIT OF RESEARCH AND REFUSED TO LOOK AT NEW EVIDENCE LATER, THEY WOULD NOT BE REWARDED..

Yes, as you say, it means EXACTLY as it says. Too bad you apparently don’t know what Bingham meant when he said it. Now, again, please put it into its PROPER context. It does NOT mean that they can ONLY be US citizens. NOT in the slightest. It means simply that they cannot owe allegiance to any foreign country. There is a BIG difference there that you don’t seem to realize. Might do you well to learn the difference, lol.

To Daniel Myer–They have already scrubbed it off Youtube…Any suggestions?

Read the 7th clause of Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code, please. Even IF Obama wasn’t born in this country, as long as his mother, who actually was a US citizen, has lived in this country for at least 5 years, Obama would still be classified as a US citizen.

So, either way, birthers don’t really have an argument.

Sorry, misread your reply handsoffmyhealth. Please ignore my previous condescending tone in my last reply. There’s just too many of these idiots who abound today. Sorry. Ignore my last post to you.

Robinsthoughts, here are a list of court cases that came to the EXACT conclusion that ALL people born in the US and subject to US jurisdiction ARE natural born citizens REGARDLESS of where the parents were born. By the way, the EXACT conclusions can be found in the public record for ALL to see to prove it.

Lynch VS Clarke 1844
Here is the EXACT conclusion reached there.
“Suppose a person should be elected president who was native born, but of alien parents; could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the Constitution? I think not. The position would be decisive in his favor, that by the rule of the common law, in force when the Constitution was adopted, he is a citizen.”
and “Upon principle, therefore, I can entertain no doubt, but that by the law of the United States, every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, WHATEVER THE SITUATION OF THE PARENTS, is a natural born citizen. It is surprising that there has been no judicial decision upon this question.”

In re Look Tin Sing 1884
Here is the conclusion reached here.
“After an exhaustive examination of the law, the Vice-Chancellor said that he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, WHATEVER THE SITUATION OF HIS PARENTS, was a natural-born citizen, and added that this was the general understanding of the legal profession, and the universal impression of the public mind.”

United States v. Wong Kim Ark 1898
Conclusion of this case:
A child born here of two Chinese parents was a birthright US citizen, and that decision also used the phrase “natural born”.

Perkins v. Elg 1939
This court’s conclusion:
ANY and EVERY person born in the US and raised in another country, this includes children born in the US to FOREIGN BORN parents, could STILL “become President of the United States.” They even referenced the girl in question as a natural born citizen throughout the ENTIRETY of the case.

As I said, the cases you post YOU have misinterpreted the very conclusions of. And you want ME to grow up. At least I can actually READ the actual court cases, son. At least I actually UNDERSTAND the results, lol.

By the way, I don’t rant on those who have read the cases differently from me. I rant on those who either haven’t really read the cases at all or flat out MISREAD the cases. EVERY SINGLE case I put forward has come to the conclusion that ALL people born in the US and subject to US jurisdiction ARE natural born citizens REGARDLESS of the birthplace of the citizens. This has been the conclusion reached by just about EVERY SINGLE court case that dealt with one being a natural born citizen, including the two court cases YOU put forward, which actually came to that same EXACT conclusion. Sorry, but the court cases themselves prove you, as well as EVERY other birther here, wrong.

Of course, they aren’t your words. The words of the court cases aren’t your words because the words of EVERY SINGLE court case disagrees with your word, lol. You fools need to try better.

Nope. The useful idiots whose minds are brainwashed are YOURS. YOU are the one who twisted Bingham’s words, after all. Here is EXACTLY what Bingham stated immediately following that sentence. “…but, sir, I may be allowed to say further that I deny that the Congress of the United States ever had the power, or color of power to say that any man born within the jurisdiction of the United States, not owing a foreign allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States. Citizenship is his birthright and neither the Congress nor the States can justly or lawfully take it from him.” This falls back to what Bingham stated four years earlier when he said, and I quote, “The Constitution leaves no room for doubt upon this subject. The words ‘natural born citizen of the United states’ appear in it, and the other provision appears in it that, “Congress shall have power to pass a uniform system of naturalization.” To naturalize a person is to admit him to citizenship. Who are natural born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth–natural born citizens.” Let me simplify this for you, son. This states that if you were born in the US and are subject to US jurisdiction, it is your birthright to be a natural born citizen REGARDLESS of where your parents were born. See how context matters. Might want to learn about context, son.

Indeed. If only it were true. But literally every court case and even the opinions of early leaders clearly tell us it’s not true. Than Congress went and created Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code, which made the matter even clearer. At least, it should have. I mean, Congress created Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code to SPECIFICALLY define what makes one “natural born.” That is the whole point of why they created the Section to begin with and why they added the words “at birth” to its introduction. That is what the “at birth” is supposed to represent. It’s supposed to represent ones “natural born” status.

It is true that there are many real issues to get rid of Obama for. He’s a terrible President. I’d say the very worst we’ve every seen. He makes FDR look good by comparison, lol, and that’s saying something. Our economy is in the tanks. Gas is at a near all time high. Let’s not forget about Obama’s illegal wars and Obamacare. What next? We need to get beyond the whole birther thing because it simply will NOT work and makes true conservatives who try to run look just as crazy as those birthers who follow them, thus making them unelectable. That’s part of the problem with Ron Paul, after all.

Then why did you disparage the poster Strtlk with an irrelevant reply and insults? The post was about the basis for citizenship, natural born. The post and the whole thread is about Obama and his citizenship. You
should be more clear. Learn a little logic and writing skills, so you
can be understood. To what then were you referring about military nonservice and kicked out of the country?
So there OOOPS again
It appears that you are the one who should take your irrelevant, “ignorant crap somewhere else you moron”.

Yes, but even if he were not born in Hawaii, the whole birther argument falls flat with just one look at Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code. If Obama’s mother, who actually was a US citizen lived in the US for at least 5 years prior to Obama being born on foreign soil, Obama would STILL be considered a natural born citizen as far as Constitutional Law is concerned. Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code Clause G still covers that situation. So, the argument still wouldn’t work even if Obama were actually born on foreign soil. Either way, it’s a non issue that makes true conservatives who try to run look just as crazy as the birthers who follow them. It makes it that much more difficult for true conservatives to win the Presidency.

I really don’t have to explain myself to you. Blow it out your backside.

The answer to your questions are in strtlks posts.

Don’t stick your nose where it doesn’t belong.

FO.

I need to correct this post. Obama did get a law license in Illinois, (must be easy to pass there) but never practiced so either retired or sought inactive status. Requires too much CE each year and cost too keep up if you don’t practice, which he never did. So it is a non issue. He didn’t lose it because of malpractice

Other opinions from those who actually matter in this debate that explain EXACTLY that you are and FOREVER will be wrong.

Now, of course, since I’ve already explained why you are TOTALLY wrong with Bingham’s statements, let’s, of course, start with someone else here.

Former Attorney General Edward Bates in 1862
“… our constitution, in speaking of natural born citizens, uses no affirmative language to make them such, but only recognizes and reaffirms the universal principle, common to all nations, and as old as political society, that the people born in a country do constitute the nation, and, as individuals, are natural members of the body politic.”
“I am quite clear in the opinion that children born in the United States of alien parents, who have never been naturalized, are native-born citizens of the United States, and, of course, do not require the formality of naturalization to entitle them to the rights and privileges of such citizenship. I might sustain this opinion by a reference to the well-settled principle of the common law of England on this subject; to the writings of many of the earlier and later commentators on our Constitution and laws; … and lastly to the dicta and decisions of many of our national and state tribunals. But all this has been well done by Assistant Vice Chancellor Sandford, in the case of Lynch vs. Clarke, and I forbear. I refer to his opinion for a full and clear statement of the principle, and of the reasons and authorities for its support.”

Edwards Pierrepont in 1875
“Under the treaty [of 1868 with Germany], and in harmony with American doctrine, it is clear that Steinkauler the father abandoned his naturalization in America and became a German subject (his son being yet a minor), and that by virtue of German laws the son acquired German nationality. It is equally clear that the son, by birth, has American nationality, and hence he has two nationalities, one natural, the other acquired. …. Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen. There is no law of the United States under which his father or any other person can deprive him of his birthright. He can return to America at the age of 21, and in due time, if the people elect, he can become President of the United States….. I am of opinion that when he reaches the age of 21 years he can then elect whether he will return and take the nationality of his birth, with its duties and privileges, or retain the nationality acquired by the act of his father.”

Frederick van Dyne in 1904
“There is no uniform rule of international law covering the subject of citizenship. Every nation determines for itself who shall, and who shall not, be its citizens. … By the law of the United States, citizenship depends, generally, on the place of birth; nevertheless the children of citizens, born out of the jurisdiction of the United States, are also citizens. …. The Constitution of the United States, while it recognized citizenship of the United States in prescribing the qualifications of the President, Senators, and Representatives, contained no definition of citizenship until the adoption of the 14th Amendment, in 1868; nor did Congress attempt to define it until the passage of the civil rights act, in 1866. … Prior to this time the subject of citizenship by birth was generally held to be regulated by the common law, by which all persons born within the limits and allegiance of the United States were deemed to be natural-born citizens thereof.
It appears to have been assumed by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case of Murray v. The Charming Betsy (1804) 2 Cranch (6 U.S.) 64, 119, 2 L.Ed. 208, 226, that all persons born in the United States were citizens thereof. … In M’Creery v. Somerville (1824) 9 Wheat. (22 U.S.) 354, 6 L.Ed. 109, which concerned the title to land in the state of Maryland, it was assumed that children born in that state to an alien were native-born citizens of the United States. …. The Federal courts have almost uniformly held that birth in the United States, of itself, confers citizenship.”

Let’s go back to William Rawle and a treatise he did in 1825, shall we.
“The citizens of each state constituted the citizens of the United States when the Constitution was adopted. … [He] who was subsequently born the citizen of a State, became at the moment of his birth a citizen of the United States. Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity. …. Under our Constitution the question is settled by its express language, and when we are informed that … no person is eligible to the office of President unless he is a natural born citizen, the principle that the place of birth creates the relative quality is established as to us.”
Notice how he stated “EVERY person born within the United States, its territories or districts, WHETHER THE PARENTS ARE CITIZENS OR ALIENS, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity.”

James F. Wilson in 1866
“…and that must lead us to the conclusion that every person born in the United States is a natural-born citizen of such States, except it may be that children born on our soil to temporary sojourners or representatives of foreign Governments, are native-born citizens of the United States.”
Again, “EVERY person born in the United States is a natural-born citizen of such States.”

What more do you fools need to prove you wrong? I mean, I gave you about a half dozen court cases proving you wrong, an equal number of individual opinions from early members of American society, and even the law itself that dictates that ALL people born in the US and subject to US jurisdiction REGARDLESS of the birthplace of the parents IS a natural born citizen, period.

I shall say again. Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code was created SPECIFICALLY to define what makes one natural born. That is the whole reasoning behind Section 1401 to begin with. If you fall under ANY of the 8 categories of Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code, you ARE a natural born citizen as far as US Constitutional Law is concerned. That should put an end to the argument right there, but you fools insist on continuing the argument. What more do you fools need than the phrase “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States AT BIRTH:” What that is saying is, “The following shall be nationals and natural born citizens of the United States:” You see, when Congress included the words AT BIRTH to the introduction of Section 1401, they did so to SPECIFY that they were SPECIFICALLY defining natural born citizenship. How are you guys still not getting that? It’s ridiculous.

I oppose Obama and his policies and have since before he ran. but your assertions about Lakin are wrong. Calling me names does not change the truth. BTW I am righthanded, conservative to the nth degree.
This is the oath he took and what he violated. Evidence of
Obama’s eligibility has no place in a military tribunal called for  violation of his oath.

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will
support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies,
foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;
and that I will obey the orders of the
President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over
me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So
help me God. (italics added)

Wrong. Lakin served six months in Leavenworth, got out in 2011. He is not sitting in prison for this cause. He pled guilty and apologized for the video and said he wouldn’t do it again. He is no hero. He took an oath to obey the legitimate orders of his superior officers to deploy to a war zone and violated that oath, the worse thing a .military can do.  Most military would consider him a coward, and I do. He as the courts have repeatably ruled has no standing to sue or claim any actions regarding a sitting President’s eligibility. Since he apparently no longer holds the position, according to his words, his pleas and his subsequent silence. 

I am no fan of Obama’s incoherent “philosophy” (belief systems) or his policies. I want him gone, but I question the validity of these assertions re SS#, identity theft, etc. I have had PI’s call me, on a cell phone I have had for 5 years, insisting I was someone else who owed a lot of money. They tagged my credit report with false SS# and other names. At one time there were at least 10 and up to 15 ss# not mine and names and debts not mine. I took 5 years to clear up and cost me a lot in extra interest because it affected my credit, and it still rears its head from time to time.  PI’s do not have access to SSA records so there can be no proof that what they come up with is accurate or even true.
Also, there are many cases where the SSA got numbers mixed up with the wrong names; also identity theft where  false loans were taken out on anothers property, also credit cards etc.
How the about the IRS who paid out close to a billion on homeowner rebates to foreigners, prison inmates, children, sometimes up to 99 different people on one address (but I and members of my family had to fight for months to get our fully documented and legitimate rebates (separate properties).
The IRS has also given up millions if not billions in child tax credits to Illegals who file tax returns, up to 20 children claimed, and they apparently didn’t even check for SS# or residence in US to do it, yet citizens cannot get child tax credits without SS# or us residence.
With this confusion, lack of oversight, rampant widespread identity theft, lack of proof because SS# are supposed to be private, I can’t see that there is any real proof that any of the names, or SS# assigned to Obama were ever used by him, except for Barry Soetero. Unless there was proven fraud and harm in the use, I believe there is nothing illegal about having another ss#, or another name or any penalty attached.

I am proud that I study, research, learn the facts and truth, and try to share them. Can I actually get paid for it? Would you be so kind as to direct me to someone who will pay me, as you seem to know all about it.
BTW where is your evidence. You opine as though it is fact…
Re evidnce, I have posted lots which you would know since you claim to have seen my posts. Here are a few even though I don’t expect you to acknowledge or understand.

*Well, I’m trying. In fact, my says I’m VERY trying!
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