Ron Paul supporters deride son Rand as a “Judas” over Romney support

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Sellout. Traitor. Cancer.

Those are some pretty harsh insults even for the heated political climate of an election year, and usually such epithets would be reserved for a Benedict Arnold. But those were just some of the words being directed at Kentucky Senator Rand Paul for endorsing GOP Presidential candidate Mitt Romney – shockingly not from the left but from the libertarians that devoutly follow Rand’s father Ron Paul.

“I’m happy to announce that I’m going to be supporting Governor Romney,” Rand Paul said over the weekend.

And apparently the comment above makes you a Judas.

“There it is. And that is reason to have him burn in hell. Apparently, according to his father’s supporters, that’s enough to have to condemn him and say Rand Paul is a sellout, a traitor, a cancer. You name it, they’ve now said it,” Glenn said.

Here’s just some of the highlights from some of the message boards and some of the posts on any Rand Paul story:

-Nothing but a Judas
-Burn in hell, Rand.
-Shame on you, Rand,
-You sold out on everything your father stands for money.
-If there’s a hell, you will see it unless you can make up for your actions.
-Damn you

Wow.

“I think they say that with love, though,” Pat joked.

“Unbelievable. It’s really truly unbelievable. I mean, here is the son of the guy you don’t think father and son chatted about this? You are a supporter of the father and such a rabid supporter of the father,” Glenn said.

“ I don’t understand it from libertarians. They are they’re in lockstep. Even if Ron Paul violates his own principles and the biggest one is the earmarks in the 14th district. More earmarks than you can possibly imagine, and he puts them in. If he was against earmarks, he wouldn’t put them in. But he puts them in all of the bills and then he votes against that bill. When he knows it’s going to pass, he puts the earmark in and then his district gets all of that earmark money. Where is the outrage?”

“I agree with Ron Paul on a lot of stuff, but I don’t agree with Ron Paul on everything. So I’m a neocon. I’m a danger. If you don’t agree with everything Ron Paul says, even his own son is Judas.”

“If you don’t walk in lockstep, you’re done. You want to know why libertarians never win? There’s your reason. There’s your reason. There is no compromise. And I’m sorry, but we as a people are going to disagree on things. You’ve got to get the big ones done. And you’ve got to move in one direction.”

“You know what this is? It’s the evolution revolution argument. If Ron Paul supporters actually meant evolution, they wouldn’t be tearing Rand Paul apart. Because evolution means we’re taking steps in that direction. Revolution is there is no compromise; you’ve betrayed the revolution. That’s dangerous. That’s dangerous every time. And don’t take it from me. Take it from history.”

“It’s strange how we are continually dividing ourselves and it’s particularly puzzling from a group of people who have a hard time getting together because they’re independent. They’re freethinkers. And yet there’s a portion of Ron Paulians that are not freethinkers. They just lock step with their leader. Even when their leader most likely agrees with his son. I don’t know about you, but if my supporters were taking on my son like that, I think I’d take a stand. I think I’d say something about it. But instead people like Rand Paul will be called spawns of Satan, betrayers of the revolution, betrayers of the republic. This monologue will be vilified, will be made into monsters. Even though tonight I’m doing a monologue on the Federal Reserve and the central banking system is a total and complete sham.”
“ You don’t win anything like that, gang. You only head towards revolution. Now, if that’s what you want, well, then you can join the Occupy people because you think an awful lot like the Occupy people. And I don’t mean in the government is bad. I mean in your lack of willingness to accept facts or differences.”

“There’s no common sense, there’s no deep thinking involved. You just follow your leader. Even though it violates your own principles. You just go with it. Why think for yourself when you can have somebody else do it?”

“Now, I understand this from the revolutionaries on the left. I understand following the leader because that’s what communists do. They just follow the leader. That’s not what libertarians do. They’re skeptical of leaders.”

  • landofaahs

    As a Ron Paul supporter who knows that it’s now a decision between Romney and obama, I support Romney.  I don’t think you can paint all RP supporters with the same brush.  I think some people have a hate fetish for RP.  Too bad some people on both sides can’t move on.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Glenn this is what happens from a handful of radicals or ideological extremists, common to all sides, left or right, who have their world bound to a narrow, focused, absolute (to them) view of the world. They refuse to see that a diversity of opinion and viable discussion (not argument) are good for the system we have of governence.

    MOST people see the world for what it is, and do the best they can without the extremism of the handful. It is the WE the PEOPLE who will keep in check the fringe groups from turning the nation into either anarchy, socialism or communism, or some other form of radical agenda.

    WE the PEOPLE, ARE America.

    Last week with the Gov Walker recall efforts the people sent a loud and clear message to the DC guard and radicals of all bent; as we did in 2010…

    WE are here, WE are watching…
    WE ARE NOT LEAVING…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-J-Churlin/100001395846087 Michael J. Churlin

    I supported Dr. Ron Paul I still do. As for the earmarks I would consider it irresponsible for him not to insert said earmarks into bloted legislation you have no intention of supporting, if fedral largess is happening against your will why would you deny your constituants to not recieve the federal money the paid in. Earmarks or currently off the table so it is a move in the right direction. Dr.Ron Paul saidon many occassions has said  hewould not seek the nomiation outside of the G.O.P. process. I always tookthis tomean inthe end he wuld support whoever was the eventual nominee. Romney isthe nominee I will support him. Gov. Rommney is head and shoulders above  Pres. Obama on just about every aspect. Art. 1 branch of goverment is where we really need to be focused on electing strong minded individual who will write the laws necessary to role back the power of the executive and put the federal government back into its proper place under the consitution. Read your constitution the President shouldbe little more than a figurehead of the executive. As for who is it Gary Johnson, as an independent I will vote for Romney because Johson has as much chance of winning as an ice cube in hell, and a vote for him will do more for Obama then anyhing  else an anti Obama activist could do.Defeat of Barack Hussein Obama is an enemy of the U.S.A. and his defeat is of paramont importance.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t know if you haven’t noticed… but Ron Paul isn’t on the ticket. So in essence you are planning to cast your vote for Obama!!! Did you go to school, or are you just bad at math?

  • Anonymous

    I think the funniest this is Glenn actually believes that if Rand became president he would have his fathers domestic policy and John McCains foreign policy which is what Glenn wants. Glenn, if Rand won in 2016 no matter what he tells you in the election he will have both his fathers domestic and Foreign policy. There is one thing we have learned from the republican party and that is to say what people want to hear and then govern the way you want.

    Forget about what the big babies on the internet are whining about and how hurt they are because the truth is this movement is taking over the republican party. We are not compromising  anything except politics. Like Jack Hunter said in his last video blog, “We are compromising on politics to further principles”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TPYB7J2BTVYJ4JKBQZTMAU3BNQ Vinny

    I used to love Rand….now he and his father are both sell out traitors.  I should have known better than to put ANY stock in ANYONE who’s made it to the positions they have.  Lesson learned.  I KNEW they were all part of the same team, but I had some hope that just maybe the Paul’s were different.  Wrong wrong wrong.  Never again.  Frauds….all of em. 

  • http://ufil.ms/BA3AS Megan S. Smith

    We are compromising on politics to further principles” http://GoogleGetJob2012.notlong.com 

  • landofaahs

    That’s partly true Snow, but I don’t change on principle and will not compromise.  That is extreme to some folks and all I can say is tough (&^%.  Deal with it. I don’t think Glenn would change his position on the U.S. playing policeman all over the world, and likewise I will not go along with a war when we are not directly threatened.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Land – there is nothing wrong for standing on the firm ground of truth and belief; where fanatism comes in is when a person seeks to impose by force or anger their own beliefs, w/o taking into account someone else may feel differently.

    In the case of us fighting wars w/o being directly threatened; agreed, we have for too long been the worlds policemen. Its time to bring our troops home and take care of America first. Let the rest of the world be willing to pay their share of defense; and if we do send our troops out to battle, finish the job as fast as possible, and get them home again.

  • landofaahs

    I think the whole world is going nuts.  It’s a good thing I have the peace in Christ to get me through it all. 

  • http://www.redstateeclectic.typepad.com AngelaTC

    Speaking of bad math, a vote for Johnson is also vote against Obama.

  • SoThere

    The antisemitic moron speaks.

  • Anonymous

    To Get Ron Paul’s Insanity, You Have To Understand Libertarianism
    “Libertarianism is to authentic conservatism what Barack Obama is to 19th
    century liberalism” http://bit.ly/vBBvkk

    The Odd Alliance Supporting Ron Paul http://bit.ly/mVkXv1

    The Company Ron & Rand Keep http://bit.ly/jOXmbG

  • Anonymous

    That’s because you’re a Darwin’s Nominee but, you’re not going to take my country with you when you go. That’s a promise.

    Mark Steyn on Ron Paul’s worldview: ‘Sheer stupid, half-witted parochialism’ http://goo.gl/dj5Ce

    Ron Paul in 2009–‘I Wouldn’t Risk American Lives’ to End the Holocaust http://cot.ag/w3P7GX

    The Ron Paul claim of ‘blowback’ completely debunked by actualy history:
    Terrorism and the New American Republic http://www.dojgov.net/Liberty_Watch.htm

    How Marxists Wrote Ron Paul’s Defense Cuts Plan http://bit.ly/xuJtqh

  • http://www.facebook.com/sean.hellems Sean Hellems

    As for Earmarks, it’s common knowledge that if Congressmen do not allocate the money put into the bills (which are put in by leadership specifically for earmarks), then the President will be able to decide how that money is allocated. Dr. Paul didn’t want the president having that kind of money so he put earmarks into the bills. However, he voted against the bills. The bills shouldn’t have had money in them to be budgeted for earmarks. Since the money was already in the bill, congressmen have no choice but to earmark, or give the president the power to allocate those funds. 

  • Anonymous

     Oh, well, that’s fine..so, he was doing what was necessary for the particular bills at the time, like Santorum and some of the others that he has slammed for doing?

    Ron Paul lost my respect when he voted against PRENDA. He’s a doctor with no more respect for life than that? Sorry, but I’m suspicious about an old man like that touting about a Constitution to young people who haven’t a clue as to what it says or what it’s about or our heritage or anything else. They’re just hoping for more lax laws on porn, drugs, abortion, and homosexual “marriage”. Perhaps not all of them..but the great majority. That’s what I see, from examining this strange cult following of his from every angle.

  • Nick Riley

    Glenn.   You don’t compromise with socialism.  Ron Paul supporters are right.  Why would they want to dilute their principles and support Romney’s socialistic record and big globalist government plans.  Ron Paul 2012.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hannah-Abbott/100001145910796 Hannah Abbott

    So, what these “ron paul” supporters are saying is, “IF Ron Paul can’t be president, let’s just let obama have it”?? ARE you nuts? The kenyan is destroying this country. . .of COURSE Rand Paul is supporting Romney-he wants the country SAVED. . .just what kind of game are these so called “ron paul” supporters playing? Are they saying it is better to have obama instead of Romney? Really? really? really? just go away

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hannah-Abbott/100001145910796 Hannah Abbott

    Maybe because unless Romney is elected, there won’t be a county worth supporting. . maybe there won’t be a country at all. . . .Nick, you really don’t understand the danger this kenyan has exposed all of us to, do you?  Please don’t vote, you just aren’t smart enough. . . I feel sorry for you. . . you imbecile. ..

  • Anonymous

     Thank you!  This is intelligence at work.  Lando understands Ron Paul doesn’t have a leg to stand on.   Rather than run it into the ground, he’s made a decision to choose the candidate in front or vote for a communist.  Duh?  which one, which one?  I’ll vote for the best one who IS NOT A communist/marxist.  How hard is that decision to make?

    And those of you all pizzed off about Rand, don’t you think his Dad approved of his decision?  Duh?  Dad know where he stands. He & Rand talked about it, so shut up.

  • Anonymous

    But, there will be a handful of idolators who think their vote will make a difference.  Crazy!  Their vote won’t make a bit of difference except if it’s a tight race, it could go to the wrong party who’ve already damaged our country to the point of almost no return.  Pride and stupidity will be their downfall 

  • Anonymous

     Michael J.  I LOVE YOU.  That was the most sensible blog I’ve read besides Lando’s (5hrs ago)  You have it pegged right on and I appreciate your candor and honesty rather than a hard stance that will put us right back into the communist ball court.  We’ve all made stupid remarks that sound tough, but stupidity is a losing hand.  Don’t any of you people play poker?  When you lose, YOU and all of us lose.  You’re idea of payback?

    To be honest, my first choices were eliminated, so I’m going with  a vote to strengthen America, not put us all into jeopardy with more socialism like we have now.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t throw away our country because your choice didn’t win the nomination and has no way of winning.  Don’t get mad at  Rand or his Dad because they obviously made the decision together.  No one wants to be called a spoiler.  Ron Paul fought a good fight, but lost.  Now, lets all get together and vote for our Nation’s sake and away from any form of communism.

  • christopher mahoney

    The Paulists would rather be right than be president. Look, Rand Paul is the only libertarian to have a shot at the White House since Coolidge. Stop attacking Rand and start thinking about whether you want Hillary and Bill back in the White House.

  • christopher mahoney

    Thank you for using the C-word. It is apt, and what we are fighting against.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y5HT63HK7XY3KTRWQPEG6H4JV4 Darryl

    I think a better metaphor would be Rand Paul leading the Crowd (Republicans) in calling for Barabbas (Romney) not knowing or understanding that Pontius Pilate (The GOP Establishment) was about to crucify Ron Paul.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn in typical disengenuous style said; “ I don’t understand it from libertarians. They are they’re in lockstep. Even if Ron Paul violates his own principles and the biggest one is the earmarks in the 14th district. More earmarks than you can possibly imagine, and he puts them in. If he was against earmarks, he wouldn’t put them in. But he puts them in all of the bills and then he votes against that bill. When he knows it’s going to pass, he puts the earmark in and then his district gets all of that earmark money. Where is the outrage?”

    Answer: Everyone knows that Ron Paul is also against the income tax just like I am but he also advocates finding ways to pay the least amount possible and finding every available tax break one can find…legally in order to get back as much of our money that the government took from us. So if Ron Paul is also opposed to earmarks yet finds ways to get back into his district as much money that the government took from his constituents Glenn is “:outraged” and implies that Ron Paul is some how a hypocrite. No doubt some of his loyal listeners will just believe what he says because in their minds he still has credibility. Oh well. BTW those “libertarians” Glenn is refering to are small l libertarian members of the Republican Party not large L members of the Libertarian Party.

    I like the way Glenn points out and focuses on the few Ron Paul supporters who used spray paint to get the message out but didn’t point out the many who chided them for their disrespect for property rights.Have we ever heard Glenn spout his admiration for the millions of home made signs that Ron Paul’s supporters placed everywhere at their own expense? Nada But that’s OK we’ve all come to expect this sort of behavior from Glenn.

    Of course we’re upset about Rand Paul endorsing Romney. After all. He’s more liberal than Bush 43 who’s administration, doubled the size of the Dept of Ed, tripled the size of the Prescription Drug Program, quadrupled the federal tax credit for renewable resource technologies, increased spending on social programs exponentially over the Clinton administration and got us into a war to enforce UN resolutions against a country that never attacked us or threatened us and without a declaration of war by Congress. Had he only raised taxes he might have gone down as one of the best Democrats in our history. We all know that Romney is even mor eliberal than Bush and just as much an internationalist, a corporatist and a militarist.

    It was those stinking progressives who’s foreign policy Glenn favors as he criticizes Ron Paul. Have we ever heard Glenn say that he supports Ron Paul’s insistence for a declaration of war?
    Here is what the founders said and what the old style conservatives agreed with and for that the progressives called them “isolationists” for it.

    “The constitution vests the power of declaring war in
    Congress; therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken
    until after they shall have deliberated upon the subject and authorized such a
    measure”.  George Washington

    An elective despotism was not the government we fought
    for;  but one in which the powers of
    government should be so divided and balanced among the several bodies of
    magistracy as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being
    effectually checked and restrained by the others.James Madison, Federalist No.
    58, 1788

     “The executive has no
    right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause
    for declaring war”. ~James Madison

    “The power to declare war, including the power of judging
    the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature”. ~James
    Madison

    “The constitution supposes, what the History of all
    Governments demonstrates, that the Executive is the branch of power most
    interested in war, and most prone to it”. ~James Madison

    So yes Glenn you ARE a neoconservative. All that really means is that you’re a new style conservative. The old style cons opposed the Federal Reserve. They opposed the IRS and the 16th Amendment. They opposed entitlements. They opposed the New Deal. Most opposed the 17th and 18th Amendments as well. The so called venerated Paul Ryan boasts that his plan increases spending on Medicare and Medicaid and he chides the Democrats and Obama for reducing spending on those programs which BTY are already $38 TRILLION in the hole.
    The New style conservatives now agree with Woodrow Wilson who said that we should use our military to “make the world safe for democracy” a system of government that our founders detested.

    “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for supper. Liberty is two wolves and a well armed lamb contesting the vote” Ben Franklin

    “Democray is mob rule. It’s tyranny but of the majority where 51% of the voters can take away the rights of the other 49% may it never be” Thomas Jefferson
    So I wonder Glenn. How many American body bags are you willing to see come home in our effort to protect “our friends” in Tiawan if or when China ever decides to excert their sovereignty? Will you line up with Ron Paul and demand that Congress declares war first or will you follow your progressive new style conservative heart and agree with Truman, FDR, Johnson and Wilson that it’s not necessary?

    Yeah Rand is a traitor for supporting a big government neoconservative globalist, corporate welfare giving drone deploying, NDAA supporting TSA lover while we’re all out here fighting every day for a restoration of our Constitution and our freedoms and a return to sound money.

  • Anonymous

    American politics rough and tumble.  I have the right to disagree with whomever I want or whatever I want.  We have had many servicemen die for that right.  While Ron Paul is nearing the end of his political career shouldn’t people be glad that he has a son trying to do what he can in the political arena?  Whether or not I agree with Rand or not is beside the point.  The Ron Paul supporters in saying and doing what they did were out of line.  Yes they voiced their opinion of Rands’ actions but calling him a Judas and a traitor?  That is asinine and of no class whatsoever!  It just goes to show how the name Paulbots brings to mind a mindless fool right along with Obamabot.

  • Anonymous

    Romney’s not on the ticket either you idiot. The convention hasn’t happened yet and the Republican nomination isn’t over yet. Stop getting your information from talking liars on TV and the radio

  • Anonymous

    Me too!!! I now support the Romney-Obama ticket. I agree with both of them that the TSA should keep on going on. I agree with both of them that we should remain in the UN and even fight wars for them like we did in Iraq to enforce their resolutions. I agree with Romney and Obama that  the Federal Reserve corporation should continue to drive us and our children into massive amounts of debt on money they created out of thin air and charged us interest on ensuring that we’ll NEVER be able to pay it off. I agree with Romney and Obama that the military should be able to arrest and detain citizens indefinately, without charges being filed and without us being able to consult an attorney. We all now support NDAA. It’s a good thing too. We’re so much safer and more free now that the government has total control over everything we do. I agree now, that, we should allow multi-national corporations to send our production jobs overseas so they can escape our regulations and taxes with the use of their prefered trade agreements like IMF, WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA, and SPP. Hey one world government baby.American sovereignty wasn’t alll it was cracked up to be anyway. THAT’s what it’s all about. I’m on board with the Romney-Obama ticket all the way. We need 30,000 miliary drones to fly over our country and keep an eyes on us from the time we leave our house until we return. We’ll just be so much safer for it I don’t care about my rights any more because now like the rest of the American people I have started to believe the radio and TV heads. They’re always right. They always tell us the truth. I love CISPA and the internet should be controlled by the government. Don’t you think? After all these are all the good reasons we agree with Romney and Obama. It’s good now because NONE of these issues will ever come up in debates or politicial discourse because they BOTH agree…and so do we sheeple.  Let’s keep policing the world and getting into more wars. I love that. Of course the founders hated that but we’ve abandonded their advice long ago right? Who cares what the Constitution says? Who cares what the founding fathers said? We now have two wonderful progessives to choose from and they are much wiser. Obama the Constitutional scholar is much wiser than James Madison father of the Constitution. Mitt Romney is also much wiser than Thomas Jefferson and George Bush is much wiser than George Washington.
    With these two great choices we have we will get our dream come true of more unnecessary wars, much deeper debt and less freedom.

    Support either Romnmey or Obama so we and our children can have all these wonderful things from our government.!!

  • Anonymous

    Hey Winghunter. I heard Michael Medved and Pat Buchanan also say they wouldn’t have sent our troops to save the Jews in Germany for the same exact reasons Ron Paul (and Jefferson, Madison, Washington, JQ Adams) also said.

    Do you REALLY believe that Marxists wrote Ron Paul’s defense sutting plan? Come on. You’re usin typical slimy liberal tactics here. We can all see it

  • Anonymous

    Hannah, I think what you don’t understand about Ron Paul or his supporters is that this isn’t nor was it EVER about Ron Paul the man. It’s about the principles that were established  and enshrined in our Constitution by our founding fathers and which also line up with my personal Christian beliefs, naturally and harmoniously

  • Anonymous

    Like to put some money down on the outcome? Here in Nevada we love suckers to bet with!!!

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, Paul supporters don’t often have common sense. Do they not think that his father doesn’t know that his son was going to do that? Paul has known for a very long time he was not going to win. His goal for some time has been to simply get out certain messages, which he has been very successful at. Leave Rand alone. He has to function in the real world and do whats best for his constituency.

  • Anonymous

    Johnson does not stand a chance. If people believed in what Johnson’s policies were he would be more popular. It’s fine if you support him, but because he has so few supporters, it’s a vote for Obama.

  • Todd Scheller

    Romney happens to be the only Republican with enough Delegates to make the ticket.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, don’t know what planet some people live on…. not earth…

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately for you, you don’t understand that most people of consequence have indeed tossed their support for Romney. He will indeed pick-up the majority of the votes at convention. You’re fooling yourself. But, you are allowed to delude yourself if you want. Right now most people realize whether they liked Romney from the beginning or preferred someone else to start with, Romney now is the one best chance that we have. Believe in America my friend. And whether you choose to believe it or not, he’s a good man. Nobody is perfect, but he’s a good man that truly loves this country. Something that I do not believe the current President feels. And he will truly do his best.

  • Anonymous

    Rand is doing what a politician is suppose to do in a Republic, can’t fault the man for that.. but i guess some people feel personal obligations and alliances should over shadow the will of the people..

  • Anonymous

    The negative effects of compromise in the longterm far outweigh short term benefits.  Small compromises of principle over time result in complete erosion of principle in the longterm.  From the guy who wrote a book on the Overton Window, I figured you would know this.

  • Anonymous

    Are you kidding…lol…. you have a better chance of electing Hitler (and he’s dead) than wasting a vote on Johnson..

    So for those that are really bad at math…. Obama gains no votes, Republicans throw one vote in the trash!!! (that doesn’t help to get Obama out of office) but do as you will Angela, you’re obviously a math Wiz. Or using the Fibonacci or Binary counting systems..

  • Anonymous

    There are a lot of Ron Paul supporters out there but I don’t think there are enough to equal the amount that Romney has.  Yes, we must be more realistic about this and I think Paul’s son agrees to this.  If we want BO out of office, don’t split the vote and vote for Paul.  It would just lessen Romney’s chances of becoming elected.  Anyone but BO!

  • http://twitter.com/JustinLark1 Justin Lark

    A vote for Rmoney is a vote for 8 more years of Obama’s policies. 

  • Anonymous

    As much as I dislike using the term, maybe this is why they call some of them “Paulbots”.  Anyone who blindly supports someone even in the face of obvious defeat is just not worth arguing with.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Riley/1175342922 Nick Riley

    Prenda gives the Federal government more power and claims authority not in the constitution. It should come as no surprise that Dr Paul voted against it.  Stupid bills like that are what give the executive branch too much power.  Did you even bother to read Dr Paul’s argument against it?  Go read it and tell me exactly what you disagree with.   Ron Paul 2012.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Riley/1175342922 Nick Riley

    I’m not saying:” If my guy can’t win I don’t care who wins.”  I am saying if the majority of GOP people don’t support the ideals of Peace, Liberty, and balanced budgets that is their problem, not mine.  I am voting for the man I actually want to represent me.  If that isn’t Romney, it is Romney’s problem.  I value my vote too much to dilute it to elect another war-mongering, big spending globalist.   Ron Paul 2012.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Swapp/1386897907 Mike Swapp

    I would not vote for OBomney even if he had a chance to win… Lock-step with Romney even when you don’t agree with his position? Hell, even Romney doesn’t agree with his positions… ;-)  I will not support evil, or less evil, or the lessor of two evils. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Riley/1175342922 Nick Riley

    Winghunter, how about Steve Forbes saying everyone should be listening to Dr Paul on monetary policy?  How about Dr Paul crushing Krugman in a debate?  How about Nassim Taleb praising Ron Paul’s budget for 2013?  How about Michael Scheurer proclaiming the correctness of Dr Paul’s foreign policy?    You sound like a tool.    Ron Paul 2012.

  • greywolfrs

    2012 Stanley Cup Champion Los Angeles KINGS!!!!!!

    WOOHOOO!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Riley/1175342922 Nick Riley

    Hanna,  Do you think before you write this drivel?  The GOP controls the House of Representatives.  The GOP house is the one that voted to RAISE the debt ceiling and give this radical Kenyan more money to play with.  They had their chance to stop him last year and they waffled just like Romney will waffle to the Federal reserve and international bankers.   I am part of the solution as I support the constitutional conservative.  You are part of the problem as you prop up the 2 party system that is killing our Republic. I am a staunch Republican with conservative principles guiding everything I say.  Don’t call me an imbecile.  Stick to the facts. I can’t believe you just discouraged a Republican from voting in November. From what I’ve seen of Romney’s weaknesses, you are going to need every vote you can muster.  You certainly don’t represent a very wise faction if you are telling Republicans like me not to vote.P.S.  you are making me laugh when you talk about not having a country if Obama is re-elected.  How many hours of FOX news do you watch a day?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Riley/1175342922 Nick Riley

    You call me an imbecile, yet you fail to capitalize Kenyan, end a sentence with a phrase, and ellipsis dots, and you support the globalist funded by international bankers..   Maybe that Nebraska education wasn’t worth what you paid for it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Riley/1175342922 Nick Riley

    I am not blindly supporting a man Ron Paul.  I am supporting the cause of Liberty, Peace, and balanced budgets with both eyes wide open and a conscience that is clear because I have studied the issues for many years before supporting Ron Paul.  If anything, you should call me a Libertybot  or a Peacebot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Riley/1175342922 Nick Riley

    They must live on that other planet that shares an internet with earth.  Ron Paul.2012.

  • w. Parker

    I agree…There are many though, R Paul supporters mostly, who have for over a year ranted and raved over the troubling issues of our country but will, out of spite not vote for Romney.  I say they’re ignorant spoiled brats and for each of them is one vote for obamba.  I’d bet money the majority voted for obamba the first go round.  But they claim to be so conservative – BS

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul and Mitt Romney always got along great.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. I too am an independant. And I will support Romney as the best bet for this country.

  • Anonymous

    Well Steve in Nevada, currently though close, the odds are on my side.

  • Anonymous

    It’s like a no brainer, isn’t it…

  • w. Parker

    I’m so sick and tired of people, mostly R Paul supporters referring to our founding fathers.  Hell, our society now is completely upside down different than 250 years ago – 95 % white european christian then – now, a bowl of gumbo with everything in the pantry thrown in…I saw the Pat Buchannan interview on Fox this weekend being interview by the libertarian, Stossel.  I agree with Stossel on some issues and on others, he is as liberal as Bill Maher.  Pat Buchannan is right on the money, as our culture has been stolen from us.  If our founding fathers had a crystal ball to look 250 years into the future and see this, they’d died of fright and our Constitution, would have had some changes

  • Anonymous

    Romney         1480 Delegates
    Ron Paul         137 Delegates…

    1144 Delegates wins the nomination..

    If you’ll bet on that…. you’ll bet on anything. It’s already over, or do you not understand the system or using some strange type of fuzzy math?

  • Anonymous

    The constitution says nothing about what you just discused. I’ve read it how about you? And Romney so far hasn’t said anything about much of what you just discussed. Both Clinton and Bush both already commited us to much of it. An incoming President cannot simply pull us out of something commited to simply because you don’t like it. Unfortunately, relationships with other countries and agreements and treaties are far more complicated than most of us even know. Please educate yourself instead of repeating things that someone else has told you. 

  • w. Parker

    A vote for Obamba, we won’t have even one more year.  And, not voting for Romney is the same as voting for Obamba! 

  • Anonymous

    Yeah they must be using the Interplanetary Net… Al Gore made it !!!!

  • w. Parker

    Who the hell cares?  R Paul is DONE, no more…a thing of the past.  It’s time to move on

  • Anonymous

    Yeah flip him over, or check for a pulse…

  • Sandie

    LMAO …. it isn’t fuzzy math … it must be fuzzy brain.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe to much Mellow Yellow back in the day.. or as they say in the artificial intelligence realm… fuzzy logic… lol

  • Sandie

    He fathered the interplanetary net too? Busy little rabbit isn’t he.

  • Anonymous

    He’s freaking smart… right after arpanet and the internet..

  • Sandie

    I guess.

  • Sandie

    He needs a net, a big one all for himself… carried by the men in the white coats.

  • Anonymous

    um hmmm, and probably the czar a DARPA. But i guess one thing we know for sure is that they are not in the Nevada Black Book… the possibility of them counting 6 decks is NULL.

  • MarsBarsTru7

    Over-the-top rhetoric in reaction to over-the-top rhetoric. Not news. 

  • Anonymous

    Please watch the Rumors of War III: Target U.S. DVD and learn how Obama has put members of the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House and in the Homeland Security. This is the fox watching the henhouse!

  • Anonymous

     Glenn, you’re not a danger because you’re a neocon.  You’re a danger because you’re a kook.

  • landofaahs

    I don’t agree with a lot of things Romney does and says. However, I can thoink of nothing odumbass supports. A 3rd party won’t win and the country can’t survive 4 more obama years, it may not survive Romney.. I’m looking for a chance to fight another day.

  • landofaahs

    I can understand why RP supporters might not vote for Romney. That is their decision to make. I’ve just made mine under duress.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul supporters are still in denial. Even Ron Paul knows he can’t win. Never drink the Kool-Aid no matter how great you think your candidate is.

  • landofaahs

    That is the problem in this country. We have presidents who want to run for president of the world insdtead of the United States.
    You might change your name from winghunter to wingnut.

  • Anonymous

    Amen!

  • clydecoulter

    How can there be logical converstaion when someone says, “he’s not on the ticket”, but then you say, “oh, yea, but he won’t be”.  Really?  Thant’s logical discussion?  Sounds more like school yard, “I know you are, what am I”?

    And w. Parker, why do you make statements you know nothing about?  I’m a Ron Paul supporter and I voted for Chuck Baldwin in 2008.  I’ll claim what I claim and that’s my right.  No BS :)

  • clydecoulter

    How many delegates will Romney or Paul have at Tampa?  Lot’s of people want to know.  Not even Romney or Paul know.

  • Sandie

    and the probability of them have a full deck is NULL .

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z4VMVKUSNG3TT6MEGRSKMJWEWU AZhombre

    Got to love those loyal RP supporters.  Hope they use common sense when the General Election is between between BO and Romney.  We must be united in getting rid of the current administration before it’s too late!  Bottom line:  It WILL be between BO and Romney.  Please nobody repeat the same mistake 30 million of us did in the past and voted for Perot when Bush Sr said “read my lips, no new taxes”, raised taxes, and Perot was on the ballot.  That’s how Slick Willy was elected!

  • Todd Scheller

    Really?
    Ron Paul knew he would not have enough delegates on May 14, 2012 when he suspended his campaign. Romney knew he had enough delegates on May 30, 2012, the day after his win in the Texas Primary, even the AP tally gives him enough to get the nomination.

  • http://www.facebook.com/douglas.r.campbell.9 Douglas R. Campbell

    But Glenn, it’s not about being in lockstep with Ron Paul. It’s about the message, not the messenger. Ron Paul will tell you this and any Ron Paul supporter will tell you this. It’s not about Ron Paul. It’s about respecting the constitution and individual liberty. Ron Paul is simply along for the ride. The reason he is the messenger is because he is the only Congressman who lived up to his oath of office (until he was joined by Justin Amash in 2010). You act as if this group of liberty activists that are able to see the corrupt overreach of government are somehow mindless and not able to think for themselves. The truth is quite the opposite. I respect that they abhor compromise when it comes to your freedom and my freedom. I also respect Rand Paul’s approach to work more directly within the Republican Party. He is a champion of liberty as much as his father.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=714566156 Richard Heathen

    You are such a moron Beck!  The earmarks are nothing NOTHING!!!  The money would have been spent anyway!  Stop trying to insert wedge issues. You are right, when it comes to principles there are no compromise!

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm   So, for Ron Paul supporters, you’re an OK son if you support your father.  But, dare

    to follow your own wishes and endorse another?  Why, you should burn in hell!  Unbelievable.

    I hope Papa Paul comes out soon to defend his son’s making a FREE CHOICE of who he 

    wants to support.    P.S. Keep an eye on Rand.  I think that man will go places.

  • http://www.youtube.com/whistlersbrother TheCannabisWhistler

    Well not all Ron Paul supporters felt this way.  I felt there is a reason for the endorsement, and that is the long term advancement of the Liberty Movement.  PLUS — I think people who take the endorsement at face value are a little too gullible.  I cannot believe Ron and Rand suddenly gave up their principles and sold their souls to the Dark Side.  I mean, do you think if Rand said, “Hell no, I’m not endorsing Romney” that it would make it any easier to keep winning more Ron Paul delegates in the remaining states?  No. 

    I think it was a smart move, even if the timing was bad and there was too much trust that Ron Paul supporters would figure out it was a strategic move not to be taken too seriously, without spelling it out for us.

    I am very disappointed in seeing the things people have been saying about Rand.  I thought Liberty minded people were more mature than that.  I understand that some people took it literally and have already given up, and were disproportionately focused on the singular goal of the Presidency this cycle and therefore were very disappointed at this “endorsement,” but seriously, grow up and have some respect, if not for Rand then for the sake that this is Ron Paul’s son and Ron deserves more respect than that.

    Personally I think some people have some apologizing to do.  And I think the people who are the most upset are the same ones who have already given up hope and chosen defeat, when Tampa is still a ways off and a lot can still happen.  We do not have a nominee yet, no matter how many times the media wants to pretend we do.  That does not happen until Tampa.  And Ron himself has not endorsed Romney.  So what does that tell you?  People need to learn to read between the lines a little better…  Things are not always what they seem.  And smart men don’t suddenly get stupid. 

    Don’t leave the ballpark at the bottom of the 8th–you’re going to miss the fireworks.

  • Anonymous

    alio,  you know there are some who say they must vote their con-

    science. This begs the question: ‘You are willing to vote for your candi-

    date, knowing he/she has no chance to win?  You will not vote for the

    candidate who might beat Obama or do you risk the chance of B.O. 

    getting the needed number of votes and another 4 yours?’

    Shaking my head. Isn’t it all about priorities here?  Your candidate may

    be the best of them, but if that one has no chance to win, why waste

    your vote, conscience or not?   Lord knows, Romney wasn’t my choice.

    But as sure as God made little green apples, I will vote for him in Nov.

    The future of this country is at stake.  That trumps my conscience in

    this case.

  • jef mac

    Rand Paul made a statement by not endorsing his Father. It was a deliberate thought out statement. 

    The impact of that statement will be felt by his father Ron Paul as he looses voters that are on the fence. Many will use the argument that “Even his own Son wont support him”.

    Rand Pauls actions here will have a significant impact on his fathers position in the race. 

        

  • http://twitter.com/paoligarcy Paolina Garcia

     He’s just talking about the inevitable nomination of the establishment candidate.

    Don’t worry Clyde, Republics ALWAYS fall, and usually very quickly. It’s the worst government form. France is on their fifth Republic and the one Paine helped inspire over there beheaded women and children.

    Like Rome, America worships it’s founders (Romulus & Remus), was founded by slaveholders who wanted “freedom” (hypocrisy), and has waged many wars of occupation to spread “freedom”. Rome also had a central bank which devalued their currency.

    There is a REASON we didn’t want to try a Republic again for 2,000 years since the horrors of Rome. It’s an effective power structure for liars to achieve absolute power.

    Hitler was elected in the American-style Weimar Republic, after all. Of course a Republic’s defenders always pretend that when it elects a bad guy that somehow it’s not the system at fault.

    Nevermind that the Kaiser we overthrew opposed Hitler and that most of the plotters who took violent action against Hitler were supporters of the Kaiser. A great irony of history.

    Glenn fails to mention that Bonhoeffer, the martyr whose book he holds up so much, was a monarchist. Just like how he omits that Thomas Paine was a communist.

  • Anonymous

     ”out of spite not vote for Romney” How about because we don’t support him or his policies, or how about because its our right to vote for whom we wish. 

  • Anonymous

    Paul hasn’t got a snowball’s chance in hell of appearing on the ticket, which apparently sucks for you. 

    Go have a cookie, it will make you feel better.

  • Anonymous

    Very well said!

  • Anonymous

    Actually the logic is clear – Ron hasn’t got the support to get on the ticket, no matter what his supporters think, they can’t change the numbers. 

    The logic is regardless of your personal opinion you will have to accede to the inevitable that the majority of voting persons will not vote for Ron Paul. Even his son is intelligent to see that coming.

    You, on the other hand, apparently have a difficult time identifying large buildings three out of four tries if you can’t understand that.

    It is your right to say what you will, no one is denying that. Your understanding of logic is a bit flawed, but that  is also your right to believe as you wish.

  • Anonymous

    That is what statistical polling is about. 

  • Anonymous

    For sure!

  • Anonymous

    I think he meant the odd people were on his side. 
    Maybe it’s fuzzy dice???

  • Anonymous

    I hate to be the one to inform you, but pot smoking does interfere with reasoning abilities and perceptions. It is a mind altering substance.

    Please refrain from toking up before a late night internet session, it makes you appear to be unable to think, or is that your natural state?

  • Anonymous

    Please leave male genitalia out of this discussion.

  • Anonymous

    Is it possible to catch a whale in a net?

  • Anonymous

    I think he is still in the day…. *cough-cough*

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Riley/1175342922 Nick Riley

    I have watched Rumors of War.  It is pure propaganda.  I dismiss it for the fear-based, factless trash that it is.  I suggest you watch a 30 minute video called “Culture of Fear.”  It used verified statistics to show how the media uses fear to influence the American public.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Riley/1175342922 Nick Riley

    Don’t try to guilt me into supporting an inferior candidate. Perot was the superior candidate and his message of “Keeping jobs in the US ” would have prevented us from becoming as weak as we are today.  As for the General election I will wait until Tampa convention is concludes to see how far right Romney can be dragged before the General.  If Romney stays in the land of moderate, big government, deficit financed, globalist, and mandated government healthcare, this Republican will be happy to vote for Gary Johnson.   Ross Perot was right and you are pretty dense if you can’t see that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Riley/1175342922 Nick Riley

    Winghunter.   How about you study up on the inflation tax, the costs of war, and the Bill of Rights.  Those are the things that cause me to support Ron Paul.  If you are trying to sway people away from Dr Paul’s ideas you need to actually bring facts.  Facts of 15.7 trillion dollar national debt and $3 trillion dollar wars in Iraq and Afghanistan motivate me to support Ron Paul.  Those wars are funded with borrowed money that my tax dollars will be spent paying off.

  • Anonymous

    I find it amazing how many times I’ve heard that line. “Ron Paul can’t win” blah blah blah. Then all the idiots said Pawlenty is the man we should all watch. Out after Iowa where he came in last. Then the idiots found a new big government establishment hack to latch on to in Trump who proudly said Raon Paul can’t get elected to anything despite the fact that Paul was elected ten times and Trump was never elected to ANYTHING. Of course hero Trump was out before he could get started. Then….drum roll please. the “Tea Party favorite” Bachmann. Crickets…she’s been out a loooooong time. Then the establishment big government corporatist/militarist/globalists tried to hand us their new Ronald Reagan because after all, he was tall and good looking…..Rick Perry who couldn’t string two coherent sentences together. OUT for Perry. Then of coure there was Herman Cain./ Yup Yup. He’s black and we’ll prove we’re not racists by nominating a black guy to run against Obama. Fraud, big government idiot on foreign policy Ron Paul wanna be…..OUT. Then’ well try to attract the lower educated Christians with Santorum despite the fact that he says he likes freedom just not too much freedom. He likes limited government, until it’s time to be loyal to your party and vote for HUGE government. Who’s honest according to himself but was voted one of the three most corrupt members of the Senate. OUT. MEanwhile the media ignored Ron Paul until they mentioned him only yo remind people that “he can’t win” “he’s done” while he was filling up football stadiums and raising HUGE amounts of money from small contributions nearly keeping up with Romney’s big corporation and mege bank contributions with a full media saturation. ALL the ill informed bone headed morons who get their information from the media, Rush, Medved, Hannity etc alll repeat that mantra. Figures. THIS is why we’re SCREWED. You so called “copnservatives” would cast your vote for anyone the media says is the front runner and you could care less about principle, honesty, the Constitution, the founders, our sovereignty as a nation, sound money, or limited government. You’re about to vote for one “who can win” who’s policies his entire carreer as a politician prove that he’s just another big government hack who WILL drive us deeper and deepr into debt, who WILL get us into another unnecessary-undeclared war and who WILL take more and more of our freedoms. Sergeant Rock. You sir, deserve the government you vote for

  • Anonymous

    First of all, I do read the Constitution and I fully understand it. But why don’t you be more specific about what issue you’re talking about that you disagree with me on? For instance the TSA violates our Fourth Amdnement right every time they search another person without a warrant. Do you need me to show you the 4th Amendment? The Patriot Act violatess at least the first five amendments of the Bill of Rights. Do you need me to prove that too? The United Nations subverts our sovereignty as a nation. Though Ron Paul couldn’t snap his fingers and get us out of that orginization at least we could KNOW without a doubt that we would NEVER fight a UN war while he was prsident. Not unless Congress declared war as per Article I section 8 clause 11. Now tell me where in that Constitution you think you understand does it allow for the federal govt to take money from one person and give it to another or from one group and give to another group. That’s what corporate welfare is you dummy.

  • Anonymous

    I’m fooling myself? Why then don’t you show us the real delegate count?

  • Anonymous

    I for one have been ranting about the failures of my government for over 20 years. I know the issues. I know the Constitution. I have read all of the Federalist Papers and the anti Federalist Papers and I have come to the conclusion that it’s completely delusional to think Romney is the answer to Obama. Lunacy to the highest extreme

  • Anonymous

    I voted for Baldwin too and I stand proudly by that vote. Even after seeing how Obama has governed I STILL wouldn’t cast my vote for McInsane. The guy authored NDAA and supports just about every big government policy that comes down the pike and doesn’t give a crap about our individual liberty. On economic issues he reminds me of Miss South Carolina

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul won Nevada

  • Anonymous

    It’s hard to tell. We’ll just have to wait until the Convention to find out who has what number of delegates. To answer to Todd. You are a typical ill informed voter who repeats the silly stuff that you hear the TV and radio people tell you and what’s worse is that you believe them instead of doing the minumum amount of research to find out for yourself what the truth is.
    Hint. Ron Paul didn’t EVER suspend his campaign let alone on May 14. Check it out. In May Ron Paul was filling up football stadiums while Romney couldn’t draw 200 people to his rally. It’s all there on youtube for you to watch with your own eyes. The true delegate count is also out there for anyone who cares to know the truth

  • Anonymous

    You can vote for whom you wish… but a vote for Ron Paul in reality is a vote for Obama – you do the math!!!

  • Anonymous

    UH Steve Nevada…..Those are not the real number of delegates. Do just a tiny bit of research. Man I do wish I could take that bet with you. I need a few extra bucks

  • Anonymous

    OK, whatever. He still can’t possibly get the nomination of the Republican Party.

  • Anonymous

    No it isn’t. A vote for Ron Paul at this point is a vote against Romney. In case you haven’t noticed we’re not in the general election yet. The convention hasn’t happened and the GOP hasn’t yet selected their nominee. Come on man. Get up to date. Stop watching television and start to actualy READ

  • SoThere

    Ron Paul fanatics are the “Craziest People”. 

  • Anonymous

    THe RP sr. folks have to quit acting lke the race for the candidate of choice isn’t over.  They still don’t have to vote for Mitt, it’s their choice but chastising and whinning about RP Jr. is a real crock and unseemly for adults.

  • Anonymous

    OK…. I’ll vote Paul if he wins, and you vote Romney if he wins… fair enough?

    And i’ll give you 2 to1 odds… my wife will vote for Paul also if he wins.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

    Isnt it each persons free choice who they vote for. When did you get to say how everyone else votes?  Im disgusted that political parties no longer have to do what the constitution says or what they know voters want. But for years voters have had to choose from whatever political parties want. It comes down to the lesser of 2 evils every single year. And we get the same retoric from party ass kissers.

  • Anonymous

    1 John 3:21-23
    21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
    22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
    23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
    KJV

  • Anonymous

    Prov 3:5-7
    5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
    6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
    7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil.
    KJV

  • Anonymous

    Your intitled to your opinion. But at this point, Romney is the one in position. Paul is not. And though I respect some of what he says, there is much I do not agree with. And there are more people that feel the way I do, than those that whole heartedly agree with Paul. No one man is going to be perfect for this job. But Romney is a good man. And far better than Obama. I will support the best one standing. And that is Romney.

  • Anonymous

    Captain, most of the deligate have commited to Romney. I understand many Paul supporters are hoping beyond hope they will sway the deligates, but it isn’t going to happen.

  • Anonymous

    So in your own strange way, you agree with me. I fully believe that Romney has the delegates.

  • Anonymous

    You people said the same thing last time. I even had Paul supporters call and blantantly lie about other candidates. But Paul got a whopping 5% of the vote. Maybe he win get 10% this time. Maybe.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul is not actually a conservative. Only on some things. But quite liberal in others. Your probally hoping to leagalize drugs so you can leagally fry your brain.

  • Anonymous

    One state or even two does not win the prize.

  • Anonymous

    Nut job.

  • Anonymous

    Last time around Paul was asked about the fanatics following him that were robo calling and making false claims about other candidates and other wild claims. He said he did not like it.

  • Anonymous

    Some of the people that get on these sites are nut jobs that say anything. I’m tired of extremists on all sides. Common sense must come back.

  • Dave Carroll

    It’s spelled you’re there buddy

  • Anonymous
  • TheMaskedMarauder

    And they are proud of it!

  • Anonymous

    A simple Yes or No to the bet will suffice!!

  • Anonymous

    I think Art Linkletter used to have a show like that back in the fifties and sixties with kids…

  • SoThere

    Proud or just obsessed?

  • SoThere

    It’s a take off of the cartoon “The Gorilla Hunt” by Columbia Studios.

    “Monkeys are the craziest people.”

  • Anonymous

    LOL! Now that is funny!

  • TheMaskedMarauder

    Maybe a mix of both.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joshua.turner.908 Joshua Turner

    Though I don’t believe Rand Paul deserves to be sentenced to Hell for his support of Romney, you need to understand why Ron Paul supporters are so upset. For the past 3 and a half years, it seems that the GOP has done a 180 and decided that less government is better. And, please, let’s not deceive ourselves into believing that this has been the GOP’s stance the entire time. From Reagan to Bush 2, it seems the government has grown at an alarming rate. From telling us that we can’t marry those of the same sex to the drug wars. This is all government control. It’s the government saying that they know better than we do. And finally, with the election of Obama, Republicans seemed to come to the realization that maybe government doesn’t need to be so involved in the lives of its citizens. So, along comes Ron Paul who espouses pretty much EVERYTHING that the GOP has been preaching the past few years. And what happens? YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE HIM. Let’s not fool ourselves, we all knew Mitt Romney was the establishment’s choice. Sure, there was a Rick Perry and a Herman Caine to shake things up. But in the end, we all knew it was going to be Mitt. If the GOP was serious about bringing about a change, Ron Paul would have won, hands down. Yet, again, people feel like their voices aren’t heard. Again, we get a career politician who only seems to care about taking care of his Wall Street backers. It’s an endless cycle. We don’t have a choice anymore. And that’s why people are upset. I find it very odd that Mr. Beck claims to be a libertarian, yet doesn’t seem to understand why people might be so upset about Rand supporting Mitt Romney. It’s because Romney is nothing more than a puppet for the establishment, and Rand Paul should know that. He’s seen it before. So, though I don’t believe Rand Paul should go to hell for his support, he should reconsider his position.

  • SoThere

    Those people are really going to get upset when Ron Paul throws his delegates behind Mitt Romney!

    Those liberals will really be pissed.

  • http://twitter.com/Seraphson Highwind Cid

    Conservative? Robamney defended NDAA, TARP, is for pre-emptive war and thinks Benny Boy at the Fed Reserve is doing a “good job”; and to put the icing on the cake he’s dodged the ‘Nam draft countless times. How bout’ that. Another career politician chicken hawk. He was born on third and thought he hit a triple. He even called himself a progressive. Right out of the horses mouth. You claim to have a clue. You clearly do not.

  • Sandie

    Ya a dragnet….LOL

  • greywolfrs

    Well, I am a Ron Paul supporter, but I would have to disagree with the people saying this stuff about Rand, for a different reason. I do not think he deserves what these people are saying. However, I do not think he should have endorsed Romney. If he was going to give an endorsement to someone, other than his father, he should have given it to someone who holds the same kind of Libertarian beliefs he says he is for, that would not be Romney. In fact, I would have thought he would have endorsed Gary Johnson. That would have made more sense. I can only surmise that he feels getting rid of Obamao is all important and that is why he did this. To each his own.
    To the Ron Paul supporters saying this stupid shit, this is still a free country and he has the right to do as he pleases, whether you agree or not.

  • greywolfrs

    I would have thought he would endorse Gary Johnson. At least I would have understood that. To each his own…

  • greywolfrs

    Actually, you are wrong. Do not group all Ron Paul supporters together. I support Ron Paul because I think he is best for the country. I can only surmise that Rand has given this endorsement because he feels getting rid Obamao is more important. It is a let down to Ron supporters, probably because Rand claims to be a Libertarian and an endorsement for Romney goes against that. I have no problem with him making an endorsement for someone else, but I would think he would do it for someone that holds the same ideas as him and that is not Romney. I would have expected him to endorse Gary Johnson, but this is still a free country (for the moment) and he can do as he pleases.

  • greywolfrs

    So, you think that the Republicans putting up another clown means I have to vote for them? I will not, under any circumstances.

  • greywolfrs

    The only people I see that are in denial is people like you. You think that the Republicans can put up any clown and everyone should vote for them because he isn’t Obamao. I have news for you, that “voting for the lesser of two evils” is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place. You may be comfortable doing, but I will NOT.

  • Anonymous

    The moral relativism of the “lesser of two evils” philosophy has been
    draining the heart and soul of America for decades.  Many of us in the
    Liberty Movement understand that it is nothing new, and have come to
    expect the abusive and emaciated logic it entails from time to time. 
    However, over the course of the past year it has become apparent to me
    that the talking points and propaganda that drive the hypocritical
    worldview are being utilized on an even grander scale than ever before. 
    This fact struck me quite sharply while attending a local GOP
    Lincoln/Reagan dinner event while I was attempting to gauge the overall
    danger our country would be facing from potential RINO (Republican In
    Name Only) sellouts as well as what our hopes were for a possible
    political solution at the local and state level.  The “conservative”
    rally was, to say the least, disappointing.

    One thing that stood
    out plainly at this event, though, was that there was an overall
    template; an action plan, a message that had been pre-engineered. 
    Someone had sent out a memo, or an email, or a guide, or perhaps beamed
    talking points directly into the cyborg brains of these political
    hacks.  Their rhetoric was repetitive and uniform and dry like elbow
    skin.  The demand was clearly stated; regardless of who won the
    Republican Primaries, no matter how unprincipled, how unconstitutional,
    how despicable, it was our “duty” as conservatives to back them through
    the national elections.  Obama and the Democrats had to be defeated at
    all costs…

    Now, one of the first tenets or rules that a person
    learns when delving into the Liberty Movement is that there is no such
    thing as political parties in America today.  There are no conflicting
    interests in Washington D.C.  There is no “grand battle” between left
    and right for the minds of the masses.  It is a sham.  A con.  A
    fantasy.  A false paradigm. 

    Complete article at http://www.alt-market.com/articles/838-the-lesser-of-two-evils-con-game

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t mean to paint with such a broad brush, wolf.  Was addressing those

    supporters who were ragging on Rand.  I think the man endorsed Romney since

    he wanted someone to beat B.O. and knew his father would not be the Rep

    candidate.  He knows Johnson would not be the candidate either.  It’s essential

    and of the greatest importance that B.O. should not win in Nov.—for the sake

    of the nation.  If he has another 4 years, the remark he made before he took

    office will be fulfilled–this nation will have been transformed, not in a good way.

    P.S (an aside) I live in the greater SF Bay area so, it looks like we both live in

    ”liberal land.”   Isn’t it fun?  :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Carter/1432541298 Charles Carter

    Glenn Beck is such a douche. Cant stand the propagandist bastard.

  • Sandie

    People with that kind of screwy logic can’t do the math.

  • MarsBarsTru7

     Right on. It’s a matter of contributing to your own demise. I’ve seen the forest *and* the trees. I will no longer partake the “lesser of two evils choice” fallacy.

  • Sandie

    Kids Say the Darndest Things?

  • Anonymous

    Yes I am, and not because I like him, it’s because of the way the GOP has treated us. So reap what you sow. BTW, that threat of “vote for Ron and you’ll vote for Obama”, doesn’t work on us.

  • Anonymous

    You believe Romney is going to be any different than Obama and you call us ignorant?!?!? IF Romney gets in, how about we meet back up here in 4yrs and we’ll see if our debt or spending has gone down 1 penny. I can promise you with either guy our debt will increase trillions of dollars and we will bail out Europe. But you keep on believing that the big govt Socialist who put an ‘R’ by his name is going to fix our problems. What a joke.

  • Anonymous

    Captain. I support Ron, will not be voting for Romney, but it’s time to face facts, it will be Romney, even Ron has said so. It’s people like you that give the rest of us the “cult” reputation.

  • Anonymous

    That’s the one! In this case it’s fools take the stupidest positions and defend them to the death.

  • Anonymous

    The names of the guilty will not be changed to protect their idiocy.

    The name’s Friday. I was working the day shift in the crazy district, and there was plenty of crazy to go around. My partner, Gannon, and I got a report of delusional fools trying to take over the neighborhood, so we went to check it out…

  • Anonymous

    No you’re obviously too smart for that !!!! Or conspiring to have Obama reelected.

  • Anonymous

    It’s time to go stand in the corner you’re making the rest of the people at jonestown look sane..

  • Anonymous

    Look at the nut job that’s leading the parade… that about says it all !!

  • Anonymous

    The real Joke is that Ron Paul has only sponsored 1 bill in his entire career (out of 620 bills) that has passed …. HR 2121..(the sell of a old U.S. Customs building)..

    The man obviously can’t get anything done!!

  • greywolfrs

    Then leave and don’t come back. Problem solved.

  • greywolfrs

    I think I was simply trying to say that Romney, obviously, does not embody Libertarianism at all. Since Rand claims to be a Libertarian, it would seem a bit odd that he would endorse someone who is NOT of the same mind as him. I said Gary Johnson because he IS Libertarian and does have a lot of the same ideas. That is why I can only surmise that Rand endorsed Romney because he is about getting Obamao. The problem I have with that is Romney might be a little bit better than Obamao, but I do not think he is the answer. I think this country is in deep trouble and can not afford 4 more years of an establishment politician that will not get the job done. Ron Paul may not have all the answers either, but I do feel he has more than the other two clowns.

    In the end, I believe we headed to the second civil war…

    P.S. Yeah, but most people don’t realize that over 40% of CA is conservative. Over 40% voted for Meg and Carly. It’s OK, the weather is here…
    Besides, we live in a target rich environment, I am never leaving.

  • greywolfrs

    Exactly my point.

  • Anonymous

    That’s not some indictment of Ron Paul that he won’t get the nomination. It’s an indictment of so called conservatives. who would rather elect another big government liberal from Mass who’s idea of the role of government informed him to author a health care bill that proved to be the model for Obamacare. What a bunch of idiots. Naive silly little believers in a lying media and partisan power brokers. The same power brokers behind BOTH the TV candidates

  • Anonymous

    SteveNevada I have a better idea. You vote your conscience and I’ll vote mine. According to my conscience I could not cast my vote however for a globalist, militarist, corporatist like Romney. I value my freedom. I don’t want my son to risk his life in some country that has never attacked us or threatened us and where our own Congress and the president  refuses to uphold the Constitution in the process of sending him by declaring war. If you want to risk your life for your friends in Tiawan against China and then see 100,000 American body bags coming home for them then have the guts to be among them but don’t send our entire country because most people that I know, don’t have any friends in Tiawan or want to die for the Tiawanese or ANY other country. I oppose violations of my Constitution like corporate welfare which BOTH Romney and Obama favor. I would NEVER in a million years advocate sending our sons to war for UN purposes like Bush did in Iraq, Johnson did in Nam and Truman did in Korea and like the Obama-Romney ticket WILL do again in some other country.

  • Anonymous

    Why do you think a vote for a candidate that you agree with is a wasted vote? Why would a vote according to one’s conscience be wasted but a vote for that which you loath is not? Who taught you such foolish, spinless thinking?

  • Anonymous

    Great insights Alio

  • Anonymous

    Most people don’t know who Johnson is, or what party he’s the nominee for or what his positions are because the media totally ignores him the the partisan loyalists work together to make sure he doesn’t stand a chance. They will keep him out of the debates and if he does get mentioned it will only be to marginalize him or remind the American shepple that he “can’t win” and then after their self fullfilling prophesy comes true they will say “see I told you so”.

    And the same powers that be remain in power. More war. More debt and less freedom

  • Anonymous

    Maybe i got foolish, spineless thinking from someone who sponsored 620 bills and only passed 1 of those bills …. in 36 years…

  • Anonymous

    Noticed on the BET you won’t put your money where your mouth is…. no wonder you follow Ron Paul… all talk…never getting anything done.

  • Anonymous

    That makes the founding fathers crazy too then because we Ron Paul supporters want to adhere to Washington’s, Jefferson’s, Madison’s Patrick Henry’s, John Quincy Adams andSamuel Adams foreign policy and we reject Woodrow Wilson’s FDR’s Truman’s, Johnson’s Bush’s, Obama’s and Romney’s progressive foreign policy.

  • SoThere

    Nonsense.

  • Anonymous

    mmmmm bye

  • SoThere

    See ya Charlie.

  • aarons dredyl

    I hope you enjoy the jew money that funds your slander work

  • Sandie

    Like HWSRN

  • Anonymous

    Beck, you don’t understand how earmarks work.  No one can get an earmark until money has been appropriated.   Ron Paul votes against the appropriations and loses 99 percent of the time.  Only then does he request earmarks.  He’s trying to get some of the billions in taxes  that his constituents send to Washington back.  If congress doesn’t earmark then an Obama beaucratic will spend the money

    James Inhofe and Ron Paul   Earmark Ban a Huge victory for Obama

    http://www.humanevents.com/2011/03/11/earmark-ban-a-huge-victory-for-obama/

    I try to like you Beck, but you’re stupid Buffoon.

  • Anonymous

    Tats not nonesense. Most of the gay rights supporters are liberals who also claim the label pro choice and anti gun

  • SoThere

    OK?

  • Sandie

    Hey, that was good! great memory you have.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rich-Baldanza/8811003 Rich Baldanza

    glenn do you even understand the earmark process? Those funds are ALREADY appropriated. If RP does not claim those monies, guess who spends it? the executive…..HE is returning confiscated funds

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rich-Baldanza/8811003 Rich Baldanza

    Glenn, you are putting too many RP supporters in a box. A few might idol worship the man, but most of the ones I know only worship true liberty. It might seem we are in lock step with Ron Paul, but it only seems that way because he is in lock step with liberty. I personally was not thrilled with Rand endorsing Romney, but I am not raking him over the coal for it. GB, for the love of god , stop stabbing liberty in the back, and stop trying to fracture the liberty movement. Keep talking about the fed, and you will remain somewhat relevant to liberty lovers worldwide

  • Anonymous

    Translation: the Captain is gay and anti gun/pro abortion, among his peers he seems to have attained the rank of Captain. Either that or he is just rank – it could go either way and still be correct.

    I think he confuses libertarian and liberal.

  • Anonymous

    Precisely!

  • Anonymous

    Did you screw your underwear on too tightly? I am not Steve Nevada and never have been. Perhaps you need some more quinine for this malarial attack you are experiencing.

    I will say your lack of faith and acceptance of the doctrine of American defeat and inferiority are typical of left wing thinking. You must be one of those fake libertarians from the liberal camp who think keeping Ron in the race will split the Republican party and give your buddy Obama the second term both he and you are salivating over.

  • Anonymous

    So what? The bunch of idiots is the ones who doggedly insist Paul is a viable candidate. He isn’t, you can’t cope with it, and this kind of post is the indication that you don’t deal with reality.

  • Anonymous

    You seem to forget the founding fathers actually setup a country and accomplished much more than selling a decrepit building during their time in office… Your comparison is ridiculous if not borderlining on lunacy!!

  • Demagog

    What? Beck says you MUST agree with someone just because hes someones son? What logical fallacy is that? Rand is selling out, and since both he and his father is running they cant openly disagree witch each other.

  • Anonymous

    I never liked the son Rand  and some of his positions anyway. Obviously daddy knew about this ahead of time. If Ron Paul was loyal to his supporters and their possible impact on party policy positions, he would have insisted the son wait until after the Tampa convention.  By then they would know if they had any impact on the party platform or if they should mount an independent campaign. 

    Maybe Dr. Paul backed down because the Bilderberg group had anointed Romney at previous meetings. Or maybe Ron Paul offered up his son as a sacrifice to keep the Bilderbergs from putting out a hit contract on him and his family or maybe family loyalty out ranks loyalty to political supporters.Must be daddy figures the son may have some political advantage to gain at the convention such as a possible VP slot. Why would the two Pauls want to even think of such a thing with a psychopath like Romney. It would be like sleeping with an AIDS infected prostitute rather than one’s wife. 

    I thought the reason we liked Dr. Ron Paul was his integrity. Some of us even gave extra money to the last money bomb because we hoped he might run as an independent after the party convention.Romney versus Obama isn’t a choice. They both answer to the same cabal. A VP slot for Rand Paul is highly unlikely and is a position lacking power to make changes. It would be hard enough for Ron Paul as President to make changes, the son will be just a puppet.I am so disgusted I could vomit.

  • http://twitter.com/AnneBeck58 Anne Beckett

    Well, I would say it was a terrible move, by Rand, as much as we DID expect it.  I know of Rand and have paid attention to Rand, a BIT- as a Texan, and Rand is not his dad.  My only “surprise” this season, was that Rand even stumped FOR his dad!  He also said all the right words.

    MY main issue with Rand is not that he did what we did expect.  MY issue is that he did this at the most inappropriate time, while delegates were scheduled to meet up in California AND in Texas, Ron’s home state.  Had he waited a bit, I do believe it would not have been so destructive.

    BUT, the people who are equating Rand to Ron have NO idea what they are saying.  Those going off (and boy are they the most loud, too) at how RON sold us out really need to ZIP IT.  Tampa has not yet happened.  Much else is in the works, and regardless;  the movement does continue (IF we move it forward).
    This movement was not based on ONE MAN and the tools don’t get it.  So, they are out to destroy all of our hard work?  How stupid are they?  (nevermind)

  • http://twitter.com/AnneBeck58 Anne Beckett

    No, a vote for Ron Paul is still a vote for liberty.
    A vote for the “lesser of two evils” is still? EVIL.
    Wake up, darling.  Whether it’s ROMBAMA or OBAMNEY, it’s a bad way to go.

  • http://twitter.com/AnneBeck58 Anne Beckett

    BTW, on the earmarking of monies spent?  WHY is it not ALL earmarked so we know what is going where?  Is earmarking the cash flow a BAD thing?
    People just don’t think.

  • Anonymous

    Well if you look at earmarking it is embedded into another bill, correct? So if we look at earmarks we can conclude that the earmark will not stand on it’s own merit as a bill. So it is used to buy votes from other senators or congressman as the case might be..

    I personally believe, all earmarks are a bad thing… put it in bill by itself and let it pass on it’s own merit…

  • Anonymous

    Anne, do you consider passing ONE bill to sell a decrepit Customs building in your entire political career a man that can get things done,,, then i really can’t argue with you…. at that rate Ron Paul will be 112 years old before he sponsors and passes his next bill. However, i’m very glad to see you are interested in politics.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IHRXTGYNRA35OASTW5HJXVBN6U brandnewxx3

    Hmmm.. I suppose passing the bill has nothing to do on his part, it has a lot to do with the corrupt people in Washington not voting the way of the constitution and and changing their evil ways, so stop harping on the one bill passing thing, its starting to sound like a broken record coming from you.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, it’s the rest of the Worlds fault he can’t get stuff done. So what is he going to do if he were president…. sit and cry that congress wont agree with him, because he can’t sell his way out of a paper bag….

  • Anonymous

    Shays, stop being a TOTAL idiot.  A vote against Romney IS a vote for Obama, moron, because Romney IS going to get the convention nomination.

    You should get up to date and start to actually READ, too.  Than you, too, will realize that Romney WILL get the convention nomination.

  • Anonymous

    OK  Here you go.  Updated quite recently I might add.

    http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates 

    Now, seeing as 1144 delegates is needed to win the nomination and Romney has 1489, Romney has ALREADY won the nomination 345 delegates ago.  Seeing as Paul is still down in 4th place with 137 delegates, with ONLY 261 delegates left, Paul stands NO chance at getting the nomination.

    LOL  You crack pot Paul supporters are one reason Paul is unelectable you know.

  • Anonymous

    Shays, you truly are an imbecile.

    It’s not just TV and radio stating what Todd said.  It’s just about EVERY SINGLE news agency in the country stating that.  Here are just a few for you.

    http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates 
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_delegate_count.html 
    http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/scorecard/statebystate/r 
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2012_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries 
    http://www.cbsnews.com/primary-election-results-2012/scorecard.shtml?party=R 
    http://projects.wsj.com/campaign2012/delegates 
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/primary-tracker/ 

    In fact, I found ONLY one site supporting you, and incidentally enough, it was set up by some more of you crack pot Paul supporters who continue to deny reality at EVERY SINGLE turn.  Here is that sight for those interested.
    http://www.thereal2012delegatecount.com 
    When literally EVERY OTHER news site on the planet proves you to be wrong using the ACTUAL delegate count, though, you are pretty much WRONG, period, lol.

  • Anonymous

    NO, he did NOT.  According to the very LATEST convention numbers, Romney received 20 delegates in Nevada while Paul received 8.  These are OFFICIAL numbers from ACTUAL delegates.  It seems that since Romney received MORE delegates there, Romney actually WON Nevada.  By the way, this isn’t from watching TV.  I haven’t watched TV to keep an eye on the primaries.  This information comes from the first half dozen or so sites from a Google search for the REAL Republican delegate count, lol.  You Paul bots need to wake up to reality.  Paul hasn’t even gotten ahead of Newt Gingrich yet.

  • Anonymous

    Shays, you are, again, an imbecile.  Steve’s numbers ARE, in FACT, the real numbers backed up by EVERY SINGLE news agency in this country on both the left and the right.  The Wall Street Journal supports them.  Real Clear Politics supports them.  CNN supports them.  Fox News supports them.  Washington Post supports them.  New York Times supports them.  In fact, the ONLY place not supporting Steve’s numbers is a site supported ONLY by the rest of you Paul bots, lol.  When REALITY itself proves you wrong, you are simply wrong, you know.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe it’s because that Paul CANNOT possibly win under ANY circumstances, lol.  Since you are putting a vote on someone who has absolutely NO chance at winning, you are taking a vote from someone who actually DOES, in this case Romney.  By taking a vote from Romney, you are giving a vote to Obama. Simple math, son, lol.

  • Anonymous

    I’d rather have the lesser of two evils than the greater of two evils, and the greater of two evils is what we WILL MOST DEFINITELY get if you vote for Ron Paul because a vote for Ron Paul IS a vote away from Romney, which makes it a vote FOR Obama.  You people are delusional and it sickens me.

  • Jennifer Maschke

    I think Glenn wrote this article to make him feel better as he himself has “sold out” to his “leaders” instead of standing by principle. He’s no true fan of Mitt Romney, but will “go with the flow”.  There’s no admiration in that.  Where are YOUR principles, Glenn.  You’d feel alot better inside if you could stick to principles the way Ron Paul has.  He is truly the last standing Statesmen.  As least that can be admired.  All great admirable men of history were NOT team-players who went with the flow, but who stood out, who wasn’t afraid to be different, not afraid to tell the truth… Ghandi, Martin Luther, Thomas Jefferson, Jesus Christ… thank goodness they went AGAINST the grain and didn’t cowpow to “norm”.

    I think it’s too bad that people are so negative against Rand.  Rand is NOT his father.  He’s his own man and more a politician than his father.  He’s not a statesman, although not a bad person either.  I’d much rather see the likes of Rand and Mike Lee in the Senate rather than the likes of Harry Reid, so I’m glad they are in there.  But they are NO Ron Paul.  The man single-handedly brought issues into the mainstream that were completely taboo.  NO average person knew about The Fed before Ron Paul started educating us on it.  No one truly states it as it is the way Ron Paul has.  He has always told us the truth regardless of the cost and that’s why he’s so admired and has the loyal following that he does.  Santorum has lied to us.  Gingrich has lied to us.  Romney has lied (or flip flopped at least 15 times on major issues) to us, Obama has lied to us.  A vote for a liar, regardless of the party, is vote for a liar.   

  • Jennifer Maschke

    Bytheway, in the eyes of George Soros, there is NO difference between Romney and Obama.

    In an interview in
    Davos, Switzerland (a few months ago), George Soros offered the reassuring news
    to liberals across Europe that, if Mitt Romney wins the presidency, there will
    be “little difference” between him and Barack Obama in the White
    House.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iHn-5TPyudU

     

    “If it’s between
    Obama and Romney, there isn’t all that much difference except for the crowd
    that they bring with them.”  Soros
    also told Reuters that many hedge fund managers in the United States are
    backing Romney because Obama wants to raise their taxes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXYJd1rmCGU

    You who are voting for Romney because you’ve bought in to the lie that “we need to defeat Obama” and believe that’s the only way to do it, even going against your own principles– you people probably also voted for loser McCain– at least you can sleep well at night knowing that you’re voting the same way that George Soros will be voting.

  • Fever Legal

    I have always thought highly of you Glenn, and I enjoyed listening to your program, but your commentary in this video is completely out of line, comparing “Libertarians to communists”, and “Ron Paulians to Occupy”. That is such bullshit! Sure there are unfortunately those few that are calling Rand a traitor for endorsing Mitt, but the majority are not, because we understand why he did it. That is his decision. And the majority of Libertarians do not “just follow their leader” like some helpless sheep! This is NOT a revolution against Romney….this is a revolution against BIG GOVERNMENT! Romney is not against big government, he supports corporate bailouts, and says whatever he needs to depending on who he is standing in front of, to ensure their vote! You wanna talk about sheep…how about all the Romney followers that are not “free thinkers”, and think he has already “clinched the nomination” because the mainstream media told them so. I will not vote for Romney, because in my opinion, he is only slightly better than Obama, and contrary to what you say, voting for him would “violate my principles”. I follow Ron Paul, not because I’m “just going with it”, but because I HAVE done some “deep thinking”, and really like what he stands for. Ron Paul wants to whittle our government back to the way the founding fathers intended it to be. I have no qualms with his earmarking, because I understand why he does it, and it is not because he is a greedy man. He just knows that he can better spend federal money that would otherwise be wasted on things like Obama’s $4 million Hawaiian vacation, or Nancy Pelosi’s continual misuse of military flights, or how about your precious Romney’s “earmarked federal money” lavishly spent on the Olympics, for such programs as his newly formed “Olympic Horse Adoption Program”, etc…. You used to be against big government too Glenn, and you used to speak fondly of our founding fathers. But I guess now that your paycheck is being signed by Clear Channel Radio, which happens to be owned by Bain Capital, which happens to be run by Flip Flomney, you just joined my Hypocrite List, and should also put yourself on your own Coward List!!! If this is what your shows are turning into, you just lost a listener!

  • http://twitter.com/KeimgMeg Keimh3reg Peh2u Meg

    First of all, Glenn Beck (or whoever his source is) is lying through his teeth in order to discredit the guy he perceives as preventing Romney from cinching the nomination. As a Ron Paul supporter, frequently on the internet, connected with other supporters, I can say that there are MORE Paul supporters, even when the news was fresh, that were cautious or even forgiving. As this news has gone stale, that number has done nothing if not increase.

    Second, there is no dear leader syndrome as Glenn the phony libertarian likes to imply. There are expectations and standards, and trust me they are high! But there is no “Ron Paul can do no wrong sentiment”. I have yet to meet or encounter even ONE Ron Paul supporter that was not critical, often vehemently so, of at least one aspect of Paul’s proposed policies or ideology.

    Thirdly, there is no expenditure on the budget or in any bill that is not an earmark. Anyone who thinks earmarks, are an issue is distracted or attempting to distract others. It is not line items in bills that are bankrupting us, it is the bill in its entirety! Anyone who decries this pork or that pork without noting that part of Congress’ CONSTITUTIONAL duty is to spend revenue, in their district. Lake Jackson Texas pays X in taxes every year. It is their money, not “the people’s”. If their own Congressman can’t vote or amend a bill to give them their money back, what obligation do they have to continue to pay taxes? There would be no incentives, not even perverse ones!

    Lastly, the criticism for Rand was never JUST about the endorsement. It was also about many of his past actions of dubious repute, but which had for the most part been overlooked or forgiven and forgotten. It was about other statements he made in the Hannity interview that run counter to facts, create facts out of thin air, or give doubt to his sincerity. This of course brings up the question of both timing and motivation. Why now and not the end of August? If Romney is going to be the nominee, why does he need Rand’s help now? On the other hand, if Romney’s chances at nomination are actually slimmer than what the conventional wisdom gives them to be, why would Rand bail on the one person even those of us who think Rand a traitor know Rand prefers to Romney, when that person (Ron Paul) still has a chance. These are two different scenarios, and the questions that arise both lead one to surmise the following: Rand is gunning for the VP slot. Maybe he wants it for the right reasons. Or maybe he is just a power whore.

  • Nick Riley

    I’ll vote for Rand Paul in 2016.   I hope he is an option.