Supreme Court deals blow to SEIU, no word on Obamacare

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Read the full SCOTUS opinion here.

The country is eagerly awaiting a decision from The Supreme Court of the United States on Obamacare – and it turns out they are going to have to wait until next week. But that doesn’t mean there is no news coming from the SCOTUS as they did decide that in the case of Knox v. Service Employees International Union (SEIU) that the First Amendment gives state employees the right to decline to pay dues used for political advocacy by the union.

“The issue is whether a state can require its employees to pay a special union fee, require the employees to pay a union fee that will be spent for political purposes without giving them any information about the fee in advance.  So we can require people to just pay the union’s political bills without even telling them that they’re going to pay the union’s political bills,” Stu explained.

The decision was a 7-2 vote.

” Let’s take a minute and just mourn for SEIU,” Glenn said before almost immediately saying, “Okay, I think that’s enough time.”

“It’s starting to shape up to be a very bad summer for the unions, is it?” Glenn added.

Mark Mix, President of National Right to Work, issued the statement below following the ruling :

Today, the United States Supreme Court upheld workers’ First Amendment rights and struck down another union boss scheme to confiscate and spend state workers’ hard earned money for politics without their permission.

Attorneys from the National Right to Work Foundation…argued, and the Court agreed, that the workers should not be forced to subsidize union officials’ political spending, even for a short period of time.

The Court closed a giant loophole that allowed union bosses to confiscate money from workers’ paychecks for political spending sprees – and sent a message to union officials, once again, that forced political conformity is unconstitutional.

  • landofaahs

    Let’s hope it is not a pre-salve to a disappointing health-care decision.  If the obama care decision is not struck down, we are only left with one option;DIVORCE.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    One down and two more to go in the balance; the second is Obamacare and the third is the inaguration of a new POTUS in place of Obama in the new year. God help us if Obamacare stands, for there will be no end to the pandemonium and chaos of Obama grab for power.

    He (Obama) has decalred, according to a Washington Times article the other day, that he will have HHS CONTINUE all aspects of the Obamacare law via regulation if it goes down in flames. So the outcome is still in doubt.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4HAW7OERGSC7VZM72V7IGDJ3B4 Sharmane

    The shakedown has been occurring long enough!   This is great news.

  • Anonymous

    Thank You, Thank You, Thank You! Now, lets hope they do the same thing striking down ObamaSocialistcare.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/S77SSGF2GQPX2AOM5D6QQIO5PI Barry B

    Wonder who besides Ginsburg voted for the SEIU.

  • landofaahs

    Evidence that the obama administration is “EXTREME”.  These extremist socialists need to be stopped and thank God that a few people in the Supreme Court see it. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PW5TORKAMHVXSDIQNSWUIQCKEQ Max_80919

     This is where I get like a deer in headlights. The POTUS takes the oath to up-hold the US Constitution yada yada yada, and then blatantly doesn’t. Just a few examples: blows off congress the way Obama has with DHS (Dream Act) and HHS (will keep doing it regardless) and claims executive privs with Fast and Furious which was an attempt to undermine the 2nd Amendment. So can congress and people do to stop the POTUS cold in his tracks. This is how Hugo Chavez took control of VZ, and now Obama is doing same; no wonder Obama took Chavez’s book so eagerly back in 2009 – birds of a feather…

    Aside from elections, what does it take to stop the POTUS when he clearly is violating the Constitution? Congress seems quite dumbfounded.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent vote by scotus. Hope they kill obamanationcare,too. If they do,look for obummer to cancel the election by declaring martial law AFTER some CONTRIVED catastrophe. The SOB is not gonna stop his roll.

  • Anonymous

    KAGAN

  • Anonymous

    Wish they could make the same decision for the “so-called non-profit AARP”, as they were/are guilty of the same.-IOWs taking membership fees and using them (without the consent of the members) to back certain “bills” without input from their members.

  • Anonymous

    This is a great victory for this country. The founders knew to put certain laws in place to protect the republic. Let’s hope that they work with the Obamacare decision.The constitution must be upheld or we will lose our God given rights stated in it. That means not even a union has the right to change it. Thank God for the justices that did the right thing based on the constitution. 

  • Anonymous

    could be kagan and sotomeyer

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    who is required by oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies both foreign an domestic?

  • landofaahs

    I understood that Ginsburg voted “against”.  Maybe I heard wrong.

  • Anonymous

    This SCOTUS is the best paid court in American history.
    The judges bought and paid for by Koch, etc…have done a wonderful job bribing Clarence’s wife while spoiling the others with payoff vacations and the money needed to pass Citizen’s United, etc…as long as they are alive and paid off America will slowly suffer through this disgusting excuse for a judicial branch!!!

  • Anonymous

    The best military in the world of course for those who still have no clue. Its the UNITED STATES MILITARY

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    You’re ridiculous. I was in a union for 20 years and they NEVER took our dues for political purposes. They had a PAC and we could give optionally. GET YOUR HANDS OUT OF OUR POCKETS AND OUT OF OUR HEALTHCARE, Socialists. Go live in Cuba.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    So now you’re threatening the SCOTUS.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Max, right now here is the way the situation has to be handled in the strategic sense.

    Currently the Republicans and the Conservatives have to work across the nation to try and keep any grab by Obama in check, until the Nov elections. This involves the courts and all other ways legally it can be done.

    Now the next part, is the instant Obama grabs final power, refuses to step down from office, or such, then whoever is the next lawfully elected member of the chain of succession (in this case it will be, before/after the election, Bohner or Romney) declaring Obama in open rebellion, and gathering the political, and civilian sides with the military to bring about a peaceful counter coup.

    Understand clearly, ANY action taken against Obama as a dictator or his refusal to stand down after the elections, HAS TO BEGIN with the lawful successor of the then-treasonous POTUS who will stand for the nation and the Constitution.

    This is the only way it can be done without opening the door for future revolutions and coups.

  • landofaahs

    I doubt it was sodomite/whore.

  • Anonymous

    Beyer dissented, and Kagan joined in that dissent.  Ginsburg joined in a concurring opinion by Sotomayor.   

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/K7NEJGM43BLFIZRTC3OYE3CBHE Kevin

    Wow. You’re a real jackass aren’t you?

  • greywolfrs

    Hey, sticky chin, I see you have more stupidity to spew. It’s perfectly OK for unions to donate money and have PACs but not corporations. You are dumbest person in the country. Oh yeah, never mind Kagen, you know, the person who helped write Obamaocare and did not recuse herself when it got to the SCOTUS. Dunce.

  • greywolfrs

    Jackass, no. Dunce, yes.

  • greywolfrs

    Of course it was Sotomayor, she has to protect her illegals that SEIU openly admits to hiring.

  • landofaahs

    OOps. watch out.  Sh-ts about to hit the fan people….silver below 28.. we are breaking too many 200 day averages.

  • http://www.facebook.com/KatieMMS Sharon Taylor

    Ditto!  Thank you Supreme Court Justices for standing your ground for the American people.  God bless them and us.  We will overcome.  If you think this is good..wait until November.  

  • Anonymous

    YIPPEE!

  • Anonymous

    Since Kagan is one of the two no votes, she will turn out to be the worst choice of a supreme court judge during my lifetime.

  • Anonymous

    It was Kagan and Breyer

  • Anonymous

    Looks like strtlk is an SEIU member, eh? Good. The things that you are for are bad for everyone who has a normal IQ, and that exceeds yours by a hundred points.

    Public sector employee unions have ruined several states, and should be abolished. Times are changing, and we can no longer afford to promote incompetence because of seniority. Public employees should not be untouchable and immune to the consequences of non performance that private sector employees are subject to.

    I am glad you don’t like the Supreme Court, it’s another thing on the list that ticks you off because they are one of the checks and balances that keeps politicians like Obama, Reid and Pelosi from becoming despots.

  • Todd Scheller

    Provide the receipts for the money provided to the JUSTICES (There are no judges on the Supreme Court) by the Koch brothers.

  • Anonymous

    Boy that was fact filled…. it will take a while to digest… done…

    Anyways see your buddy Obama campaign donors got downgraded today… bummer

    J.P. Morgan          $808,799
    Morgan Stanley    $512,232
    Citigroup               $736,771
    Goldman Sachs $1,013,091

  • Todd Scheller

    And those are just the 2008 donations.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, it confuses me….are you suppose to hate the 1%… or just collect money from them and have dinner with them so they give you more money…. Or do you back the OWS or not…seems to be either a quagmire or a bunch of BS..

  • Anonymous

    First lady Michelle Obama receiving 25 gifts valued at nearly $244,266 altogether. Including a ruby-and-diamond jewelry set from King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia valued at $132,000.

    are you talking about bribes and gifts like Michelle’s.

  • Anonymous

    That decision couldn’t have happened to a more deserving bunch of freeloaders. I sincerely hope it sticks in their collective craw. The idea that public sector employees have the chutzpa to hold the citizens of several states hostage and expect to be awarded raises and benefit increases while the people who pay their salaries with their taxes are doing worse and worse economically at the hands of this amateur administration that is bankrupting this country is abhorrent to all sensible American citizens. 

    Now, lets get rid of the abortion called the Affordable Care Act. Obamacare is the mother of all porkbellies. There is more greed and despotism in that law than anything ever enacted by any US Congress and President in history.

    REPEAL IT!

  • Anonymous

    Shut up fool! We’ve seen enough liberal moronic bull crap. Why don’t you find a job at some village someplace – I’m sure you could land that idiot job opening.

  • Anonymous

    Yessiree – he’s the genuine article!

  • Anonymous

    Hey greywolfrs, why limit the man? I think he has the ability to excel at both equally.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah,, there is an opening in the Administration for Obama’s personal Jester, that should work out fine…… don’t for get to butter your cornbread everynight…

  • Anonymous

     Odd, those are Romney’s campaign donors also.

  • Anonymous

    But Romney did give J.P. Morgan a 94.7 billion dollar kick back did he?

  • Anonymous

     He’s not President yet.

  • Anonymous

    Oh so you do agree Obama … paid back his debt

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pulp-Fiction/100003824865981 Pulp Fiction

    fascism is the future..state controlled capitalism. i believe thats where we as a social species have always been headed..ideally we want an economic model that reflects our individualism while reinforcing our social bond and needs. im not a prophet. but i can see the future
     

  • Anonymous

    No, I call that crony capitalism.

  • Anonymous

    No they only donated half of what they donated to Obama….. so your your paltroon comment doesn’t hold water.

  • Anonymous

    Your reasoning is… shall we say flawed?

    Because they donated only half of what the donated to Obama, makes it ok? Either it is all ok or not. Which one is it?

  • Anonymous

    You are such an idiot!
    Why are you attacking the First Lady when I discuss the bribes that the Justices receive?
    Oh yeah…I forgot…You are a racist and bigoted fuck who will do anything to try and keep your WASP views alive.

  • Anonymous

    See you loaded your retort with innumerous facts… that might take a while to conclude all your findings with your punctilious studing…!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Hurray for the decision of the SCOTUS!  Folks should not have to spend money for political

    ads/support of the union bosses candidates which seemed to be the case.  Now, if only I could

    have the choice of where and how my tax money was spent——

  • Anonymous

    studing???
    God you are a stupid fuck!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah… typo are the rest of the first grade words OK?

  • Anonymous

    I know in your own mind you are a Tour de Force!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Betty-Rindal/100003219538326 Betty Rindal

    Snowleopard, blessings to God that you are so intelligent!! and please do keep spreading your insights and good sense all over the internet.  I always look forward to reading your posts.

    Just a note, Cal Thomas refered to POTUS as Emperor
     Obama with his edict about the immigration kids.

  • Anonymous

    For the sake of argument, land, let’s say the Court does allow Obamacare to stand as 

    written.  Don’t you think more lawsuits will be filed from something contained in that

    close to 2000 pages of a law?   For one thing, it’s called the AFFORDABLE healthcare

    bill but those who have looked into the costs say: No way, Jose.  The costs far exceed

    what was given as costs in the bill.  Someone should be able to make a case on that.

  • Todd Scheller

    Attacking Mrs. Obama with facts. Seems you forgot to provide any about the Justices.

  • Anonymous

    But then wouldn’t he be using equal scales rather than aggrandizing he’s hyperboles.

  • Anonymous

    It’s neither… What is flawed is paying back you campaign donors huge amounts money… and should be illegal.

  • Anonymous

    So we are back to crony capitalism, like I stated earlier. Anyways, these same people that you said should be criminals are investing in Mittens and you don’t seem concerned.

    It’s only wrong when the other side does it?

  • Anonymous

    strtlk, you are so full of shit your daddy puts you on back of the manure spreader and  uses you for fertilizer…. 

    Once again, you prove with your total lack of comprehension- you are an ignoramus of the ninth degree….yet, what is new about this revelation? Nothing…you share no credible contribution to this discussion,or humanity.  
    Opinion, for that is what your post consists of-opinion- not based in fact you asinine troll.

  • Anonymous

    That was a great come back…
    I commented on the fact that a number of Supreme Court Judges are accepting free vacations and talking appearances, which are facts and you come back with nothing…
    Thank you for proving you are just another simpleton beck fucktard who will fight anything as long as the “leader” says to fight.
    Good luck in life lemming.

  • Anonymous

    You’re factoid , strtlk,  is just that. Only in your mind warped reality do you expect the populace to accept your distorted view of the real world. A place you obviously do not inhabit… LMAO 
    You really expect the other readers to quantify your suppositions as actuality? Your hypallage is laughable.

    You are the butt of all the jokes on this or any other thread on Disqus. I would even venture to state you rank up there with Vickie>2.

    Your obvious reliance on vulgarity states quite clearly the level of your intelligence and thus the level of your comprehension…quite clearly, Strtlk, Skidmark, Vinny-PHONY SOILDIER you have no credibility with this audience or any other…LOL.

    Go away, you are not even close to a challenge, you neanderthal.

  • Anonymous

    You need to drop the thesaurus because you are making it too easy to mock!
    P.S. If you were so fucking smart you would know that “SOILDIER” is spelled “SOLDIER”!!!
    How fucking stupid are you!!!

  • Anonymous

    Well she was appointed by the worst president in
    your lifetime.

  • Anonymous

    No I think strtlk is not a member, just another
    socialist who likes to decide where to spend
    other peoples money.

  • Anonymous

    If we didn’t have a Congress full of criminals and traitors, Obama would be under impeachment proceedings by now. In November we have to wipe out the Liberals and Progressives from both parties.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder who the two dissenters were??  I would wager that Kagan was one.

  • Anonymous

    Kagan and Breyer

  • Anonymous

    In your case I think SOILDIER is correct, because you are a lying dirt bag.

    Apparently the only stupid one is you – looks like he had you nailed down pretty good for a new guy.

    You’ve mangled grammar and spelling so many times that it is truly idiotic and hypocritical for you to accuse anyone in that area. But then true idiocy and hypocrisy are the hallmarks of strtlk!

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Have you folks had enough of this vulgar idiot yet?

    Flagged.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    You threatened the SCOTUS with death.

    “…This SCOTUS is the best paid court in American history.
    The judges bought and paid for by Koch, etc…have done a wonderful job bribing Clarence’s wife while spoiling the others with payoff vacations and the money needed to pass Citizen’s United, etc…as long as they are alive and paid off America will slowly suffer through this disgusting excuse for a judicial branch!!!

    Flagged.

    Have you people had enough of this vulgar idiot yet?

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Flag this vulgar idiot.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Flag this sick vulgar idiot.

    Flagged

  • greywolfrs

    You are probably right…

  • greywolfrs

    I think we would all like that choice as well.

  • Gerald Merits

     Honduras did it right.  The military threw out the bum when he attempted to stay in power, took over power, and then handed it back to the people when a new president was elected.  Guess who was pissed when this happened?  Fidel, Hugo, and Obama.  Tell you something?

  • Anonymous

    I see you still haven’t managed to improve your vocabulary, huh?

  • Anonymous

    Mind boggling that (2) Supreme Court Justices actually voted in favor of unions extracting money from their members for political purposes. As a business owner, can I simply hold money from my employees pay check, so that I can give it to a candidate of my choice? Those two justices have shown that they have no reguard for the constitution.

  • Anonymous

    Coming from the biggest moron I’ve encountered, I’d say you have a way to go (intellectual improvement) to even be considered a “stupi f_____k!!!”  Now go take your meds little one.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously the two “No” votes indicate SCOTUS members that don’t deserve to be there.

  • Anonymous

    So your Answer is clearly NO..!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Soildier is correct you Moron…. That’s what you did in your white Navy pants when your band the Village People were singing and a car backfired…

  • Anonymous

    Seems you missed the point… try reading my last comment alittle slower… if need be, i’ll type it slower so you can understand..

  • Anonymous

    Well, if I do have a fault I tend to give more of a benefit of the doubt – even to this fool. Sometimes I am in a generous mood.

  • Armand1

    You threatened the lives of the Supreme Court Justices.

    Are there any moderators here?

  • https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003403557493 sallymiller

    Who did you hear that from?

  • https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003403557493 sallymiller

    WOW, threatening the Supreme Court with death.  HELLO!!!!!

  • landofaahs

    I heard it on the radio and did not pay attention to who said it, but I could have heard wrong.

  • Anonymous

    SoThere-

    Normally, I am not an advocate for censorship, yet in Strtlk’s case, his extreme vulgarity begs for such action, I believe.

    If I am not mistaken, there may be younger viewers to this 
    site that need not be subject to this cretins plebeian histrionics.

  • Anonymous

    The substance of my post you can not refute and why you resort to name calling, using a time worn tactic of “nit-picking.” Any poster who has followed your steady decline in mental stability can attest to this fact, Strtlk

    You are an embarrassment to this site.

  • Todd Scheller

    According to the Opinion here is the Vote:

    ALITO, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which ROBERTS, C. J., and SCALIA, KENNEDY, and THOMAS, JJ., joined. SOTOMAYOR, J., filed an opinion concurring in the judgment, in which GINSBURG, J., joined. BREYER, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which KAGAN, J., joined.

    That mean only Breyer and Kagan dissented or were against.

  • Anonymous

     The whole problem is that you do not have a point.You repeat political talking points and refuse to apply the same standard to your own candidate and party. There is no point in debating with you further since you seem incapable of intellectual honesty?

    “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”

    Friedrich Nietzsche

  • Anonymous

    You and the prince of pimps so there can take my statement and make it a threat.
    At no time did I do so.
    You are a pathetic little fuck, just like your pimp and hero so there.

  • Anonymous

    Again…
    I never threatened anyone…
    but keep up your lies cum stain…
    Your lies are entertaining!!

  • Todd Scheller

    Again…You are a liar.
    Such pretty language for someone that claims to be a Catholic.

  • Anonymous

    Quick historical update fuck stick…
    Catholics and Christians have waged wars, etc…for centuries…
    Your holier than thou bullshit means nothing!!!

  • Anonymous

    AWESOME!!!!!  Perhapas the tide is turning, America!  Keep praying and talking to those who belive the lies of the Plutocracy Utopia while they become willing slaves of the one world masters. 

  • Anonymous

    Hey  Snow… Hopefully Holder will be the rotting albatross around Premier Obama’s neck that will end his reign of terror.  Eventually the stink of rotting ideas will become so great that even the socialism-stoned, hippy wanna-be, pseudo religious fanatics will have to either abandon him or stand in the face of public outcry, condemnation, and pity and show the world the self-inflicted ingnorance and emptyness of their souls and minds.   I am proud to be an American and God bless the USA!

  • Anonymous

    Every one who loves freedom needs to talk to every one at every chance they get, no matter how much they feel they know.  When someone tries to out gun them with false or seemingly overwhelming (false) information.  Hit them where it is nearly impossible to disagree: That politicians are not the problem or the solution.  They are only the symptoms of the heart disease of the American people and her spirit.  Treating the symptoms may be neccessary to help the ‘patient’ to have the strength to recover, but the cause of the disease must be treated to cure the patient.  If the tree-seeds (nuts) can argue against that, chalk them up to being cool-aide sucking radical fanatics and move on to the next.  Those types will never believe the truth.  They would rather live and die in their twisted delusions about Utopia and their place in the collective than wake up and take responsibility for their own lives….. Talk to every one, at the pump, the store, the post office, school, etc…. ingore the hatred and reach out to every one you meet……  Have a good one, Betty

  • Todd Scheller

    Where did I mention wars there genius? Remember it was you that wished for the death of Supreme Court Justices.
    Keep the vulgarity coming to take away all meaning from your meaningless argument.
    Never claimed that I was holier than thou, that is your stick, then you destroy it with your next post.
    What else you want to get wrong?
    Now explain why your church takes a dimmer view on the use of foul language than you do. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04573d.htm

  • Armand1

    I read the threat so don’t try and spread your lies to me cum stain….

  • Anonymous

    Atheists and godless barbarians did the same damned things for even more time – so what is your point, cell block b*tch?

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    The Moderators don’t care.  I blame Glenn Beck for the way the site has evolved into a vulgar smut site.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    He’s in full meltdown mode.  It’s those STD’s that are affecting his brain.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Nonsense.

  • Anonymous

    “This SCOTUS is the best paid court in American history…as long as they are alive …”

    That is what you wrote, and saying that “as long as they are alive” pretty much implies you are wishing they weren’t alive, in view of the other garbage you put in there with it in that post yesterday.

    Your selective memory is a product of your jail house contracted syphilis. That’s what happens when you have unprotected sex with your daddies in the cell block.

    Liar!

  • Anonymous

    Your death wish expression “as long as they are alive ”
    is the equivalent of a threat. SEIU and you are both getting what you deserve. And the rest of the sane world is getting a lot of laughs at your expense. The profanity just adds to the low life loser image we already had of you.

  • greywolfrs

    I hear what you are saying, but I guess I have become a bit cynical. I have seen far too many morons that refuse to see the truth. (from both sides of the aisle)

  • Anonymous

    I don’t give a fuck what you think of me.
    You are a mumbling little cult bitch who gets his thrills sucking off glenn and his hand chosen leaders.
    Your opinion and pathetic threats don’t mean shit because I know you will never back them up.

  • Anonymous

    “as long as they are alive” refers to the fact that a Justice can not be fired. They only leave the court by resigning or dying.
    This was a statement of fact, not a threat dumbass!!!

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Sounds like a death threat to me.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    It is a death wish, expressed as he did it, and that is the same as a death threat – either way, he obviously wants them dead.

  • Anonymous

    No, it was an expressed desire that they not continue defying becoming room temperature. We all know you too well to believe otherwise. The only statement of fact here is that you are a dumbass.

  • Anonymous

    You are completely wrong and it shows up in the way in which you respond to others and attack them.

  • Anonymous

    I suppose that is, it seems, what happens when the expression of free speech is given to all – especially those who don’t have the self control or intellect to use it wisely.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t know shit about me twerp.
    Your assumptions only support the fact that you are simply another brain washed beckling.
    I know you don’t care about my opinion, just as I don’t give a fuck about your bigoted attacks.
    You are too weak to do anything other than pick apart and twist comments to pump up your own pathetic ego.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    He’s good at making death threats. This one is against Glenn Beck.

    Strtlk wrote:
    “Keep it up glenn beck…body guards aren’t perfect!!!”

    Clearly a death threat against Glenn Beck.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    @strtlk

    “Keep it up glenn beck…body guards aren’t perfect!!!”

    Clearly a death threat against Glenn Beck.

    “I hope glenn beck continues his current path of bigotry and hatred because it will lead to an earlier demise!!! ”

    “…and luckily, this election and the intelligence of real Americans will shut this pig up!!!

    “The world will be a much better place when glenn is gone!!!”

    “I just hope that glenn and ted keep talking because sooner or later they will end up losing more than a job at Fox or simple interview by the Secret Service.”

    “Keep talking glenn and you NRA wishes will come home to roost!!!”

    All threats against Glenn Beck.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care about you, you are an immoral dog and don’t deserve the consideration given to any other pest. You are a special class of vermin and should be ignored. My ego is just fine, your lack of self respect and dignity fueled this reply from you.

    Go away and become an honorable part of society.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, that is a death threat. No doubt about it. 

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    No one here seems to care that the leftist loons like him are getting away with this.

  • Anonymous

    Do you have a point to make or just more group think drivel?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    you are correct.  the oath is never revoked, no matter your current status: active, reserve, retired, honourably seperated or on inactive reserve status.  The Guard swears an oath to the state they live in.  It carries over when they are federalized. Dishonarably discharged is iffy, depends on the individual. did they retain any personal honor when they were kicked out?  Only they can tell.  I wonder how all this is going to pan out?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    can you please use words that us plebeian cretins (and don’t forget those darn philistines) can understand?  Oh, by the way muffin head, watch who you’re calling a cretin.  I’m a Marine and our language has been known to make the Pope blush!!  What part of freeom of speech do you want Glenn or Stu to enforce?  It’s an all or nothing proposition, buddy!

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Let them people suffer Dood. Serves them right!

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    The Mods don’t care, and won’t care until someone like strtlk makes good on their threats.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    I made my point, short and sweet, your post is nothing but nonsense.

  • Anonymous

     Freedom of Speech involves the government, not private entities. Try reading Strtlk’s obscene posts sometime. He would be censored immediately on radio or TV so your observations do not hold water.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    Semper Fi Marine!  You keeing your employees money WOULD compare to what the union is shoving down the throats of it’s members.  May your business do well despite the dirtbags in power.  And as to the two dissenters..they wouldn’t know the Consitution if it was used to spank them!!  How do you get rid of unqualified justices?  Better yet, send em to Paradise Island for some old school eduation!

  • Anonymous

    On the contrary you did not. All you did was interject with a opinion that is not backed with any evidence. So unless you have something to add to the conversation, which by the way was over, buzz off.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    Ah, I have been corrected by the good Doctor.  Try this for size: freedom of speech has two sides; one is to be able to speak without censorship and the other?  You don’t have to read it.  And I whole heartedly disagree with your statement that it only covers the government.  Freedom of speach is a God given right that applies to all ciitizens of this United States, says so in the Constitution / Bill of Rights.  I MIGHT be a dumb Jarhead but I darn well know what I was fighting for for 25 years!  If a private forum open to limited members chooses to censor its members, that is an understood restriction put in place and accepted by its members.  Hey Glenn, you going to censor us??  I don’t like filth anymore than any relatively normal person, so I don’t read it.  If you don’t like it why are you reading it?  And if you don’t trust your children on the internet, why in the sam heck are you letting them on it?

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    I call nonsense when I see it. Deal with it.

  • Anonymous

    And I call you a jackass that can’t back up his statements, deal with it.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    The nonexistent moderators don’t have the sense God gave a goat. There’s a difference between allowing dissent and allowing anarchy. Tolerance goes to far when threats become protected speech.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    Darn right Sharon (do I know you?).  United we stand, divided the rest of the wrold will kick our collective backsides.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Sure you do. I expect nothing less from people like you.

  • Anonymous

    Freedom of speech doesn’t guarantee a soapbox for everybody to spew their nonsense. It is up to the person to provide their own.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    I don’t know of any site that allows death threats and vulgarity.

    This site has become a sewer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    Where’s the smut…I looked all over the site, couldn’t find one dirty picture or joke.  methinks you might try another site to troll.

  • Anonymous

    So far all I have seen you do is run around like a troll. Do you have something informative to say or just more of your mindless drivel?

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Look, if I posted the most thought out reply, backed up with verifiable links and undisputed facts, we would end up right where we are now. I just called your post what it was and cut out all the BS you were prepared to throw at me.

    Nonsense.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like the argument of a coward to me.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Are you blind? I’ve been on this site since day one. It’s become a sewer.

    WATCH: Glenn tells O’Reilly executive privilege action will ‘hurt’ Obama 2 hours ago
    Exodus 21:24 fuckstick!!!
    There is your Biblical reference!!!
    You attack me and I’ll return the fire!!!

    on Supreme Court deals blow to SEIU, no word on Obamacare 2 hours ago
    You don’t know shit about me twerp.
    Your assumptions only support the fact that you are simply another brain washed beckling.
    I know you don’t care about my opinion, just as I don’t give a fuck about your bigoted attacks.
    You are too weak to do anything other than pick apart and twist comments to pump up your own pathetic ego.

    on Bus bullying latest example of decline in culture: “Bad seeds will bear bad fruit” 2 hours ago
    This was almost creative…
    You make feeble attempts to call me a communist, child abuser, etc…
    You even throw in your own bigoted comments on homosexuality…
    Not a surprise.
    You are a simple beck cult follower.
    I don’t give a shit about what a fuck like you says about my life.
    I know how morally sound and structured it is. I only wish glenn beck and his fucked up cult members were not around to darken our days.

    on Supreme Court deals blow to SEIU, no word on Obamacare 5 hours ago
    “as long as they are alive” refers to the fact that a Justice can not be fired. They only leave the court by resigning or dying.
    This was a statement of fact, not a threat dumbass!!!

    on Supreme Court deals blow to SEIU, no word on Obamacare 5 hours ago
    I don’t give a fuck what you think of me.
    You are a mumbling little cult bitch who gets his thrills sucking off glenn and his hand chosen leaders.
    Your opinion and pathetic threats don’t mean shit because I know you will never back them up.

    on WATCH: Glenn tells O’Reilly executive privilege action will ‘hurt’ Obama 5 hours ago
    I am not morally obligated to show respect to assholes like you.
    The Bible is filled with stories of war and peace, so don’t try and turn using it against me.

    on Was Glenn right to call bullying kids dead inside”? Caller takes serious issue with Glenn’s comments 5 hours ago
    when you are finished with so there’s wife, take a small break and go fuck yourself!!!

    on Glenn: ‘NBC has crossed the line’ with misleading coverage to support progressive agenda 14 hours ago
    glenn beck is nothing but a racist hater!!!
    All this little shit does is bitch and cry about real journalists at real networks since he was fired by Fox News!!!
    You would think that a little bitch like glenn would be happy after creating his own cult to bleed dry while spewing his bigoted hatred, but I guess a cult leader can never be satisfied.

    on Seriously, what is Joe Biden even talking about? 18 hours ago
    I know how I have served…
    I am not about to let you or that little pimp so there lie about it anymore.
    Shouldn’t you go back to ignoring your job fuck stick?

    on Monica Crowley: Tea Party not a response to progressives, but to failures by the GOP 18 hours ago
    A dead beat dad is an asshole like Walsh who refused to pay child support for nearly 9 years, but had more than enough money to vacation with his girlfriend!!!

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    How well you have just made my point.

    Have a nice ignorant night, ya hear.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    My last post to you Jeff were made by a vulgar Phony Soldier.

    Do you want the death threats he made to Glenn Beck and the SCOTUS? If you can’t find them on your own, I’ll post them for you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    What in the world are you yapping about?  Are YOU going to tell ME or anyone else what they can or cannot say?  Thou walkest a very fine line between tyrany and freedom and this forum, at least for now, is a free and open forum.  Get out and visit some of our larger cities.  Everone I visited seemed to have a nutjob spewing nonsense on every other corner.  No one stopped them as long as they didn’t turn violent.  I think this discourse has reached it’s finis.  Good day and have a wonderful life.

  • Anonymous

    The only point that you have made is that you are incapable of make one. You obviously disagree with me but in order for you to make your point, you attack instead of discussing the issues.

    I see no difference between you and Strtlk. You two are made for each other. Nite Nite!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    SoThere, your pushing a bunch of drivel that I aleady have freely chosen NOT to read is useless.  I CHOOSE to read what I want, it’s called FREEDOM!  Your reposting of the nutjob only re-enforces his reality.  I choose to ignore said nutjob.  I’ve found that it is an effective way of keeping useless noise from invading my peace of mind.  You are now invading my peace of mind and have been relegated to nutjob status; that is until you have something genuinly sensible to add to the discourse currently in progress.  Good by and have a wonderful life.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    There’s nothing to discuss. I didn’t attack anyone, you attacked me. I just called your post nonsense.

    It was nonsense. Shall I re-post your attacks on me?

    “Sounds like the argument of a coward to me.”

    “So far all I have seen you do is run around like a troll. Do you have something informative to say or just more of your mindless drivel?”

    “And I call you a jackass that can’t back up his statements, deal with it.”

    “Do you have a point to make or just more group think drivel?”

    You are what you are. Nonsense is nonsense and that one word described your post.

    You have a nice hypocritical night, ya hear? I just cut out all the “Nonsense” in the expected exchange between you and me.

    Deal with it.

    I really don’t care what you see.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Vulgarity and threats are not allowed on any site that’s not in the sewer. You go and close your eyes to what’s going on here but don’t post this stuff to me”

    Where’s the smut…I looked all over the site, couldn’t find one dirty picture or joke. methinks you might try another site to troll.” I’m not a Troll here, I’m one of the original poster on this site from the very beginning. I’m upset that Glenn let it become a sewer.

    You posted to me Jeff. If you didn’t want a reply then you should have closed your eyes again and passed me by.

    OBTW, I have a wonderful life Jeff. Now I’m going to go and delete that post with all the vulgarity in it so I won’t become part of what I detest on this site.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    OK, have fun.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    It’s been reported over and over to this sites Moderators and they choose not to do anything about it, hence my comment about this site becoming a sewer.

    Strtlk also threatened me, my family and many others here. If you don’t know what is going on then stay out of it.

    Have a wonderful life but some day you’ll have to open your eyes.

  • Anonymous

    By calling someones post BS and nonsense is insulting, especially when it is the truth. You provided no counter-argument. Unlike you and your group, I am intellectually honest and seek the truth no matter where it takes me.

    You are a troll clear and simple. You know nothing of me or my political views but you choose to assume and attack.

    Keep circling the wagons to protect your group from the truth. You are no better than the left you claim to hate.

    “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”

    Friedrich Nietzsche

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Very true.

  • Anonymous

    Do you have a reading comprehension problem? You obviously do so I guess this has reached it finis.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Like I said, it was nonsense.

    What I do know about me is that you attacked me for calling your post nonsense.

    “”He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”
    Friedrich Nietzsche”

    Every person has a right to defend themselves. Your quote is nonsense.

    There’s no one circling their wagons here, i fight my own battles. OBTW, you also don’t know anything about me and calling someone on their threats and vulgarity is the job of every person less those people become the norm in society.

    Once again, you attacked me, do you want me to post your attacks again?

  • Anonymous

    Your posts are nonsense

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    Ah intelligent discourse, thank you!  Threats to a family should always be treated seriously.  Get a firearm, learn to use it and keep it handy is the rule I follow.  I recommend it whenever I get the chance.  I understand your concern to a greater degree but I will stand on my First Amendment Rights.  I do that in the context of previous posts because of the Second Amendment.  This is a free and open forum open to nutjob and acedemic equally.  You are free to come and go as you please.  Wrap yourself around the axle over a nutjob and then stick around for more abuse?  That’s just silly.  And by the way, you missed the part about me being a United States Marine.  My eyes are always open.  I’m always prepared for extreme situations.  Been there, done that and got a Medal to prove it.  I will have a wonderful life because I don’t live in fear.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Thank you. Now you understand my original post to you.

  • Anonymous

    You can’t refute my posts troll. Nice try

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    When you have something intelligent to add to the current coversation concerning the SCOTUS discision (sp?) in reference to SEIU taking money from it’s members to buy candidates, I will gladly converse with you at any level you choose, insults  aside.  You haven’t earned the right to insult me, I’ll just ignore them as I do the rest of the non relevant material.  If your choice is to bring up non SCOTUS related information, we are truly finis.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    I’m a Marine. I spent a lifetime in the Corps. I don’t need to explain myself any further.

    Your First Amendment rights are very important until you yell FIRE in a movie theater.

    Strtlks posts are against the Terms of Use Agreement here, he’s yelling “FIRE” but the people in charge are absent.

    Thanks for your advice but I don’t need it. I fight my own battles. Strtlk threatened me and insulted my family, Veterans of all branches and the SCOTUS.

    I never brag about my medals but you go on and do what you think is right.

    Semper Fi.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    Thought you were going to delete this.  I’d really appreciate it if you would, its taking up a bunch of my bandwidth.  Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    You haven’t said anything of relevance yet. I hope we are truly finis this time. Bye bye jerk off

    PS, I gave myself the right to insult you.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    It’s nonsense. Someone else’s rhetoric. It’s not even your own. What’s to refute?

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    I deleted Strtlks vulgar posts. The rest stays. Sorry. If you still have it in your “bandwith”, it has nothing to do with me.

  • Anonymous

    Sadly, the meaning is lost on you and your ilk.

  • Anonymous

    What brain? Can you call it such when so little used, SoThere? Atrophy is this posters middle name.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    More insults? I don’t blame you, you are what you are.

  • Anonymous

    No insult, just the truth that is easily provable by your own actions.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Friedrich Nietzsche nonsense means nothing unless he was actually in the “abyss”. Just staring into the “abyss” is nonsense.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    More nonsense. You don’t know crap about me.

    I really don’t care for Nietzsche or his nonsense or your opinions based on Nietzsche.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    OUTSTANDING a fellow Marine! Where’d you go to boot camp?  Who was you Sr. Drill Instructor?  Mine was SD 2nd Battalion platoon 2088, Sr Drill Instructor Staff Sgt Timken.  I’m an Airwinger with wings.  For a Marine you got some pretty darn thin skin.  That’s OK, combat guys are pretty jumpy and they don’t deserve the crap the VA dumps on them.  Got a good life, VA’s putting me back together so as I stated previously, have a wonderful life and Semper Fi.  If I may, one last comment. Glenn doesn’t believe in censorship, his words,, not mine, I doubt he’ll ever do anything about the wacko’s.  if he did then he wouldn’t know where they were now would he? Es finis.

  • Anonymous

    At one time I would have been glad to discuss it’s meanings with you. After our little discourse, I don’t see any benefits of doing so.

  • Anonymous

    You must think your opinion means something to me.

  • Anonymous

    And in doing so you prove your own ignorance.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Sorry, personal information has no place on the internet and I suggest that you refrain from giving out too much of it. I will tell you that I started out as a 0311 in 1967, ended as a 4821. I don’t talk about anything else.

    I have very thick skin as is on display every time I defend myself and others from people like strtlk.

    There’s censorship and then there’s vulgarity and death threats. It’s not allowed on this site or any other public site.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    I really don’t care about what you think of me. You do seem to be very interested though.

    You’re quite slow to realize that I don’t care to discuss your fixation on another persons philosophy.

    You really aren’t that slow, are you?

  • Anonymous

    Yawn……

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Now you’re getting it.

  • Anonymous

    That you are a bore? You bet!

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Are you back again?

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    You are still here? I thought you and Strtlk were snuggling up for the night.

    ROTFLMAO

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Are you lonely?

  • Anonymous

    Clever Avatar.  My compliments…

  • Anonymous

    Just like the left you seem to have a fixation with projecting your problems onto others. You have proven my assertions correct that you are a close minded troll.

  • Anonymous

    I believe the legal phraseology is: The Government may only apply, reasonable, “time, place and manner restrictions” on free speech.

    A group of people blocking an intersection under the auspices of “free speech,” could “reasonably” be proscribed by “time, place and manner” considerations?  Or defecating on a car could also be prohibited.

    Purveyor

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Thanks. Are you lonely?

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    JEFF,

    Respectfully, Mr. Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of “Unalienable rights” and “self evident truths.”  Do you believe those phrases to be precursors of much of the Bill of Rights?

    Purveyor 

  • Anonymous

    Well said!

  • Anonymous

    Why do you ask?

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Do you want me to remove the hook from your lip? I’m such a boring poster and you can’t seem to break away.

    You must be a lonely little man, that’s all.

  • Anonymous

    You are the one that first responded to me and keeps doing so.It is you that can’t break away. You have never let facts get your way before so why start now seems to be your philosophy.

    You really do need a reality check.

    LMAO

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Really? Do you want me to remove the hook?

    My opinion was very clear with one word. I really didn’t need more than one.

    Are you lonely?

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    I use those two quotes by Fritz, frequently!  Again, my compliments.

    I mean, even tyrants and despots occasionally say something wise?  Mao’s allegory of the flowers and Stalin’s–”One death is a tragedy, a million, merely a statistic.”  Ouch!

  • Anonymous

    How did you get on the subject vulgarity and/or pornography?

    Justice Potter Stewart, in the 1964 SCOTUS case, Jacobellis v. Ohio said–”I [may] never succeed in [explaining] such, BUT I KNOW IT WHEN I SEE IT!”

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Yes, it seems that some people would rather dismiss truth for convenience. A sad state of affairs we find ourselves in today when this is the norm.

  • Anonymous

    Reality check! Your the one that’s hooked. I release you, go on and bother somebody else. Swim away sucker fish.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    strtlk’s been posting his vulgarity and death threats for quite some time now. It’s funny watching his mental breakdown.

    Funny stuff.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Youz funny. If you insist, I’ll take the hook out of your lip. Catch and release keeps you out there for another day. Hooked with one word, that’s almost a record.

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    Your are truly delusional. Much like Strtlk.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Back again? I just let you go.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

  • Anonymous

    No, I just let you go.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Right! Now go away.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

  • Anonymous

    You go away

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Are you back again? Are you lonely?

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    Maybe I am but that doesn’t mean we are going to take long hot showers together and swap spit. What you and Strtlk do together should be kept between you two.

    ROTFLMFAO

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Sorry but I don’t roll like you do.

    More insults. I really don’t blame you, it’s what you are. You’re nothing without them.

    Jump back into the boat ape man.

    Youz funny.

  • Anonymous

    Here is another insult Mr. Pure and Virtuous, you truly are pathetic and hypocritical.

    You remind me so much of the trolls on the left. You both like to insult people and when they do it back to you, you cry like a little girl and start attacking again. Keep proving that you are a troll. It doesn’t matter if you are from the right or the left….. A troll is a troll is a troll.

    Go cry in Strtlk’s ear because I don’t want to hear your ignorance.

    I don’t have to hook you, you jump right into the boat.

    LMAO!

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Back again?

    Funny stuff. Typical post from you.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha I never cry but you seem to cry a lot. I’m hypocritical because I didn’t resort to your number one weapon, insults?

    Youz funny, are you lonely ape man?

  • Anonymous

    Look at that, a worthless bottom feeder jumped in the boat. Who could have seen that happening?

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Typical you.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

  • Anonymous

    Folks, are you tired of this jerk yet? If you are don’t go to TFC.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Strtlk, is that you?

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

  • Anonymous

    Funny, I thought you were Strtlk.
    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

  • Anonymous

    I believe the saying is: “The buck stops here?” The Moderators also have to accept their marching orders, for they are not the “Boss” and only carry out their defined duties as Moderators on a privately owned site.

    The degeneration of this privately held site is a testament to Glenn’s own thought processes I fear.

  • Anonymous

    Your opinion of me means nothing.
    You are a little cockroach.
    The world would be a better place without you.
    Please feel free to kill yourself.

  • Anonymous

    What happened to you… did you lose your mind Or just your ability to debate?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    Just finished Flags of our Fathers.  Why did we fight that and every war since for the cause of Freedom only to have it pissed away by those who have no clue of the cost of that freedom?  I am now labeled a “jerkoff” for attempting to convey that freedom is what this is all about.  So be it.  Been called that by others.  Even got called a Baby Killer once.  The SCOTUS is supposed to interpret the laws not create things out of midair.  Two of our Justices feel it’s right to take money away from union members and give it via union leadership to politicians.  Isn’t that theft?  Are certain Justices comfortable with stealing our money?  I’m glad this descision came down as it did.  I hope the rest come down the same.  As with all discourse now days. articulation of a thought or idea is subject to attack.  It appears two individuals saw this as such.  it wasn’t.  It was my feeble attempt to convey thoughts.  I see I made a serious mistake.  This is your comment board, I am not up to it’s standard.  I wish all here the best, enjoy your discussions.  I won’t sully your board again.

  • Anonymous

    Well JEFF,

    I too read Bradley’s book, (both of them) and found them excellent reads as well as asking the questions you alluded too.  Why indeed?

    You have been questioned while on this thread, both intellectually and personally.  However, at least this time, I agree with you?  My own personal suggestion for the SCOTUS would be to limit the term to 20 years.  I find article III to have a glaring aberration within our republican governance.  I don’t want SCOTUS to be elected, but  term limits, would change things, hopefully for the better?

    Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, even Paris Island isn’t what it used to be. When I went to boot camp in 1963, if you had your thumb sticking out at “dress right dress”, you got it bitten off.  -Semper Fi-

  • Anonymous

    Marines never quit – you shouldn’t either. Stick around, this site might surprise you. Sites where everyone agrees with you are boring. I just wish some could learn to stop the name calling. That goes for both sides.

  • Anonymous

    More accurately, Strtlk is an embarrassment to himself..

  • Anonymous

    Back at you – just do it soon, we can all use a break.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately you may be right.

  • Anonymous

     Playing the victim card are we?

  • Anonymous

    The general consensus is that it is Unconstitutional to force people to buy anything, particularly health care,  also look at the waivers that were granted to special interest groups, unions and corporations who contributed to the Democrat party so they could be exempt from Obama care.   Fox Nation this morning, showed our troops training in the streets of St. Louis Mo.  What is going down here, do they expect riots if the Health care bill is overturned?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Kyle/100000586963454 Jeff Kyle

    looks like this one finally died.  I’d like to make a couple comments that no one will probably read but it does help my consciense.  this thread has been on my mind off and on since I left in a huff.  I beat the drum pretty hard for the cause of freedom.  freedom, period.  i forgot something.  for that I owe 2 people apologies, i hope you know who you are.  you/they were trying to remind me or educate if you will of the other half of the equation.  freedom is absolute.  no ifs, ands or buts.  there’s a catch and if it was stated, I missed it.  the other half of the equation is ……responsibility.  if you use your freedom of speech in a theatre and scream “FIRE”, you must accept responsibility for your actions.  same goes for each item in the Bill of Rights.  you have the right to keep and bear arms.  if you use the right to frighten innocent people…you pay the price.  again, responsibility.  the internet has given us unlimited freedom of speech but it lacks accountability; it does not require responsibility unless forced by a moderator or some such function.  lesson learned and won’t be forgotten…I learned this in school and it was ingrained in the military.  living and breathing it day after day, one assumes everyone understands responsibility.  not the case in general and not the case on this site; what an awful awakening.  I will stand on my position that if you react to the nutjobs, you give them ammunition to continue their insanity.  read what they say, if you must but don’t react.  it’s what they want, its what they live for.  please accept my apologies for the poor spelling, one handed typing stinks on ice.

    Semper Fidelis.

  • TheWanderer

    I think the ruling was pretty well thought out.
     

  • Anonymous

    And when I requested to opt-out of dues, SEIU tells me “it’s a condition of employment” to work for In-Home Supportive Services in my county. Something just doesn’t feel right. I don’t want a penny going to SEIU now or ever.