GRAPHIC VIDEO: Glenn performs in-studio surgery in wake of Obamacare ruling

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Glenn took the extreme step on radio today to actually demonstrate, on a live pretend human being, what medicine will look like under Obamacare in the near future. Stu & Pat get a lesson from ‘Dr’ Beck and see just how challenging being a doctor can be.

“We’re going to do some Mercury training here,” Glenn said, “We can now share with America the safety tips on how to just take care of some of those things that you routinely have done at surgery centers there at your office. So, we’ve set up a little surgery room.”

Glenn, Stu, and Pat then walked over to a mannequin under a white blanket, which already had a hole cut in it. They then proceeded to perform a mock surgery, removing all kinds of disgusting raw meats – ground beef, sausage, and chicken wings – from the fake body.

“Just to confirm, you’re saying because Obamacare is coming into effect, we’re not going to have enough doctors, you’re going to have to do surgery yourself and the first step in surgery is if they’re coughing, you open up the chest to see what’s going on?” Stu asked.

They then took power tools to the body, amputating the leg with a chainsaw and using a drill to “relieve the pressure of headaches”.

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  • landofaahs

    I would have thought you would have used a hammer as an anesthesia.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    At its core this is the ‘hidden means and ways’ of Obamacare; the systematic dismemberment of the nation and transference of it into the hands of the Federal Governence.

  • landofaahs

    I saw that.

  • landofaahs

    The last picture reminds me of the elitists in France…off with their heads.

  • landofaahs

    And to think, the guy only had a hangnail.  Go figure. 

  • landofaahs

    I hope we don’t have to witness a vasectomy.

  • landofaahs

    Sorry for all the potty humor but if I don’t laugh, I’ll cry.

  • landofaahs

    Am I wrong or does this remind you of a three stooges episode.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/647JFRYCJTKPI5X4EEGVKQIAY4 Contrarian

    Glen better hope he doesn’t get sick and visit a real doctor!

  • Anonymous

     Glen will be fine because ObamaTax will cause a 2 division sect. The rich will just pay their dr.’s cash to either take them quicker or give them whatever treatment ObamaTax won’t allow you.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve witness a lot of vasectomies.  Not too bad..but I never had spaghetti for supper afterwards;-)

  • Anonymous

    Glen the devil man, outdoes himself again! Truly America’s Village Idiot!

  • Anonymous

    OBAMA CARE  –  YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE.

  • BROOKE BILLINGSLEY

    If you feel that way, why are on glennbeck.com? Seems like your an idiot too….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6MA7DQUAVE3RVJUKOBIXVVQ4PI Michael

    Bottom line here, despite the fact that this was not to be taken seriously (hear that, libtards?) is that, Obamacare will help destroy the nation financially, and it sets up Obama’s million man private army. Read the legislation instead of throwing insults at it. Educate yourself on the subject. This is a tyrannical power grab by Marxists who are hell bent on making us their subjects, not citizens.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6MA7DQUAVE3RVJUKOBIXVVQ4PI Michael

    Using the “divide and conquer” strategy, Obama will bring about his desired response; mass civil unrest. This will enable him to declare martial law, which he already has in place. This will cause Patriots to revolt even more cancelling the election in November giving Obama his dictatorship. Welcome to the New World Order.

  • http://www.facebook.com/raptorep Jim Diaz

    It’s called SATIRE they are making fun of the whole situation, but it’s oblivious your to indoctrinated to accept humor from people criticizing his highness Obama

  • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.pittsley Lisa Pittsley

    I heard this on the radio and thought it was hilarious!!  Watching the video is even better!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000944507866 Michael Stansfield

    I heard this on the radio today, funny stuff, but in a scary way!

    Speaking of doctors unions… there is one and it’s affiliated with the AFL-CIO
    http://www.uapd.com/

    I had no idea.  I’m a private practice dentist, perhaps under ObamaCare I can become a government owned… errrr… I mean government paid dentist and then this union can represent me!

  • Anonymous

    You are so right Michael!!  Soo very right indeed. BHO=NWO  so very sad and frightening

  • Anonymous

    People BELIEVE WHAT  MICHAEL IS SAYING!!

  • Anonymous

    MICHAEL, RIGHT YOU ARE SO RIGHT! SCARY BUT CORRECT

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Caruso/1587245855 Sandy Caruso

    Honestly I think this is little too dramatic however this is Glenn’s style when he’s trying to make a point. After reading several parts of this TERRIBLE legislation Obamacare it is any thing but
    ‘affordable’. Here are a few examples: Page 50/section 152. The bill will provide insurance to all non-US residents, even if they are here illegally. Page 58 & 59. The government will have real-time access to an individual’s bank account and will have authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts. (YIKES-as if the government doesn’t take enough of our money already)  Pages 241 & 253.  Doctore will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the GOVERNMENT will set all doctor’s fees.  Page 2272 sectkon 1145. Cancer hospitals will ration care according to the patient’s age. Page 429, line 13-25. The governemtn will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order? What??? Better wake up and repeal this communistic piece of legislation IN IT’S ENTIRETY then FIRE the folks that VOTED for it.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbara.batchelorabernathy Barbara Batchelor-Abernathy

    I wouldn’t either, lol. What a mess he is making in the country would have our founding fathers rolling over continually without rest.

     

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Obama! It’s a good thing I have a great relationship with my VET!

  • Anonymous

    I listened to this on the radio today and it was hysterical!  It was nice to laugh after his healthcare debacle.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christy-Horne/100001274970590 Christy Horne

    In order to rid  the country of everyone else except the elite and the supreme beings of the human race you have to have ObamaCare, Reid and Pelosi are the dr’s of death.  You have to pay for Abortions in the minority classes and have self-suicide of the elderly and terminally ill.  Eutha is legal in three states now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000944507866 Michael Stansfield

    I heard this on the radio today, funny stuff, but in a scary way.

    By the way, there is a union for physicians and dentists.  It’s affiliated with the AFL-CIO.  I had no idea.

    http://www.uapd.com/

    I’m a private practice dentist, but under ObamaCare I might become a government owned… errrrr… I mean a government paid health care provider.  Perhaps this union can represent me and get me an outrageous salary with benefits and a retirement that will provide me with 90% of my working salary and benefits!

  • Anonymous

    To you maybe…,to me, it’s their way of making a point and it’s dmned serious.
    England’s national healthcare system necessitated euthanizing 130,000 seniors for lack of resources. How’s that for government-run healthcare…not only free but heartless and deadly.

  • Anonymous

    Why? when we have Jersey Shore, Kardashians, video games, and other useless distractions.  

  • Anonymous

    The Obama “GAUNTLET”  ( THANKS TO ROBERTS OF THE SUPREME COURT ) has been thrown in our faces..& Just like those in the  WWII generation that PROVED.. you mess with US  AMERICAN’s & THREATEN OUR FREEDOMS..We ALWAYS RISE UP TO THE TASK…& ‘KICK ASS’..Many of us in this generation in 2010 Kicked Ass in the House..but missed the Senate..NOW IN 2012…It is PARAMOUNT we get off our asses & get OUR VOTES CAST TO RUN THE PRESENT BANKRUPTING ADMINISTRATION INTO OBLIVION…Maintain a HOUSE MAJORITY…ESTABLISH A SENATE MAJORITY & TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTION TO GET OUR ‘RIGHT OF PERSONAL CHOICE FREEDOMS’..IN THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE..SO OUR KIDS & GRAND KIDS CAN HAVE SIMILAR CHANCES THAT WE WERE GIVEN TO US BY THOSE THAT CAME BEFORE US..One way to GATHER more voters  is help those  & yourselves by going to http://www.gbtv.com & find the link that will allow you & others to finds out if ya’ll are registered to vote..& get the job done..WE CANNOT & OUR COUNTRY CANNOT AFFORD OR ALLOW OBAMA ANOTHER 4YRS TO KILL OUR COUNTRY & OUR FREEDOMS. IT’S NOT A  TIME TO ‘PLAY CHICKEN’ !!

  • Anonymous

    Comical, but a little too graphic and gross. This is more like something I would expect Ed Schultz to do, not those who actually deal in fact. You do realize that this is going to be used to marginalize conservatives. The message is too important to allow the left to get a grip on what is being said.  

  • Anonymous

    Page 429, lines 13-25:

    13 State for the fiscal year without regard to this sub-
    14 section and subsection (y), is less than the Federal 
    15 medical assistance percentage determined for the 
    16 State for the preceding fiscal year under this sub-
    17 section. 
    18 ‘‘(2) In this subsection, the term ‘disaster-recovery 
    19 FMAP adjustment State’ means a State that is one of the 
    20 50 States or the District of Columbia, for which, at any 
    21 time during the preceding 7 fiscal years, the President has 
    22 declared a major disaster under section 401 of the Robert 
    23 T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act 
    24 and determined as a result of such disaster that every coun-
    25 ty or parish in the State warrant individual and public 

    I’m not sure how you are interpreting those lines as the government saying it will specify which doctors can write end-of-life orders.

  • Anonymous

    I think you’re the idiot.  You obviously can’t grasp the seriousness of this.

  • Anonymous

    Whatever your stance may be on the Affordable Care Act, if you are going to try to make an argument citing sections and page numbers of the act, you should probably have actually read it first. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/todd.sanford.83 Todd Sanford

    The irony of Glenn touching an electric chainsaw, a power
    drill, and a kitchen knife resulting in a live pretend human being losing his
    foot, eyes, and internal organs is beyond scary!!! I cannot see Easy Blinds
    being that easy, DON’T let him touch the house… Obama has not yet passed
    contractor home care to cover all American homes with another new tax. Thanks
    for lightening such a somber subject guys…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lee-Sullivan/100000256745869 Lee Sullivan

    Welcome to Obamacare…Healthcare – three stooges style.  Love it!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XGZCUBIP3G3BAVELK3NVFNA4SA scott

    looks like a Halloween gag     great stuff glen

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/V5YLJOJBWCYEX7C6U7H2ZOGKUE Anonymous

    This in comedic genius!! and should be Emmy nominated!

  • http://www.facebook.com/todd.sanford.83 Todd Sanford

    Let’s say I make $51000 a year, my new fee, sorry Tax,
    under section 1501,  will be $288 a month
    for my family of six, because we are using the lesser of the amounts which
    falls under the flat rate of $695 a year for each adult and so on half for kids
    divided by 12 months and so on… The simple fact is it is far cheaper for me
    and my family to just take the tax rather than buy qualifying policy, to be
    determined by the secretary (section 1301), which will cost thousands a month. This is not going to insure more Americans,
    all it is going to do is ensure this bills failure and a move to the Obama coveted
    single payer system.

  • http://www.facebook.com/randall.j.burton Randall Jay Burton

    GLEN THAT WAS UNREALISTIC AND STUPID.however you did redeem yourself at the end over the coverage. In my opinion  YOU need to tell america there are no good doctors there are no bad doctors .THERES ONLY DOCTORS. it all seems great right now.But what will it be like 5 years from now ?GLEN ive been unempolyed for four years.WTF. I HAVE SOOO MUCH I WANT TO SAY. but basicly 5 years from now it will be. (in government words) we will cure the top 125 aliments, Anyone with anything elese. OUR BAD. Im mad as hell Glen (lets just forget about who i am) I dont quailfy for welfare medical medicad obamacare. lol ( OBAMA DONT CARE) 4 year ago i made $1.69 too much.No medical. I HAVE NO TEETH. ive paid into the system all my life.( i might like to eat sme day) I NEED A JOB FIRST IDIOTS. ive tried obama education. (guess what i found) oh yes i got a$ 9000 dollar grant . but the course was $16000 and i had a dress code. i would have gotten $110 a month.(i have a wife and kid) .they said meet us half way. my half way . and the governments halfway. LEFT A HUGE GAP IN THE MIDDLE. so i needed a JOB. WELL THATS THE WHOL PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH.PEOPLE STOP ALLLLL THE BLLSHIT GET REAL PLEASE. for my sake. for i am C H R I S T .

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1604826974 SueAnn Crawford

    If I get too sick, I think I’ll just pith myself instead.  I refuse to comply.

  • Anonymous

    Gimme a break. 

  • john smith

    Too cool, Gen! you completely understand all 2700 paes of Obamatax!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/randall.j.burton Randall Jay Burton

    DO YOU HAVE ANY FUCKING IDEA HOW PISSED OFF I AM YOU FUCKTARDIC REJECTS LET ME GET MY HANDS AROUND YOUR NECKS

  • http://www.facebook.com/randall.j.burton Randall Jay Burton

    I AM REAL IM THE TRUTH

  • http://www.facebook.com/randall.j.burton Randall Jay Burton

    I AM REAL IM THE TRUTH

  • http://twitter.com/ADoggPerson Robin M. Stinson

    “Criminal Minds”  Glenn Beck style.  Glenn, did you try out for the show “House”?  LOL  Just kidding.  Your in our family’s prayers.

  • http://twitter.com/ADoggPerson Robin M. Stinson

    “Criminal Minds”  Glenn Beck style.  Glenn, did you try out for the show “House”?  LOL  Just kidding.  Your in our family’s prayers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5NMKL33LSO3A464OOOLQ4UZKTQ Scamp

    Under the NHS in Britain, helpless people die of thirst and starvation because there is no one willing to help them drink and eat if they can’t manage the task by themselves.  The death panel is in place for the elderly and infirm young…..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5NMKL33LSO3A464OOOLQ4UZKTQ Scamp

    Our once stellar internal medicine clinic is now more than one-half foreign trained M.D.s.  Some are very good, but others can barely speak English.  Nobody in their right mind would take the time and effort to attend medical school just to become a government lackey. My family had four generations of physicians, but the fifth one said “heck no” to giving up his youth to become a gov’t servant.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GIMQFUDQG6R7WGJ6J2GDPM2MBY Jay

     The actual stooges are Barack, Pelosi, and Dingy Harry.

  • JONATHAN KISER

    You are so correct in your summation of Obama(S)Care i think the very same thing, it is indeed a backdoor policy to increased regulation and control of others leading up to Tyranny.

  • JONATHAN KISER

    You are so right, it is INSTITUTIONALIZED SOCIALISM.  IMHO, this is the real beginning of the end.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1474856689 Durheim Barbara

    I am laughing so hard that I am crying! I honestly do have a a cough .(.alergies) any way Glen you always have a way to make us see what is happening. Get rid of this monster…the obamacare TAX and of course do not forget to get rid of the other monster in November!

  • JONATHAN KISER

    I wish we could off the heads of the Elitist that ruin America!

  • Anonymous

    I am thankful to GB for giving out this instruction.  I’m NOT a doctor yet.  But, I am ready to join the doctors union soon, because I know everything there is to know about medicine. You see, I watch actors who play doctors on TV.  And I have the BetaMax tapes to prove it.  Now, all I need is a piece of paper fom the federal goverment recognizing me and BAMMO: I can get off food stamps and the streets and start paying taxes on the several mllion dollars I can rake in from fraudulent Medicare/Medcaid claims.  YAHOO!!!

  • new2la

    You crazy and funny people…..if we could see into a crystal ball so we could show the dis-believers what’s in store unless we don’t rid ourselves of the pestulence in DC

  • http://ufil.ms/bK6Pk Katie M. Nelson

    this is the real beginning of the end. http://FoxGetPositionWork.blogspot.com

  • http://www.ssaarabians.homestead.com Victoria Jensen

    We are all screwed, this country is doomed if this is not repealed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Ruyle/100001085161358 Joe Ruyle

     I loved the part about UNION doctors!! Oh GOODY!!!  Now my healthcare can be just as great as a Chevy Volt!!!  No….. wait….. those don’t work well and catch fire. But I’m SURe that Government will get healthcare right……. aren’t you?

  • Anonymous

    obama [don't] care… don’t you mean…. after all it’s just a TAX, not really health care at all.

    If you buy something you can be taxed and NOW if you don’t buy something you will be taxed… [upside down and inside out] and if you can’t pay… are you are taken away.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bonnie-Smith/100000027137663 Bonnie Smith

    I heard straight from the man involved that when they were in England his wife needed non-emergency surgery.  The doctor’s office scheduled it for six months later.  When he called to make sure they knew he had private insurance, the operation was rescheduled for the following Tuesday.  Of course that won’t happen here.  When Obamacare is fully implemented, there won’t be any private insurance.

    As an added detriment, this should slow down the economy even more.  Businesses with over 50 employees may well lay enough workers off so that their wages will cover the new Obamacare “tax.”  Thank you, SCOTUS.  And businesses with fewer than 50 employees will refuse to expand past 49 so they can stay off the Obamacare roles.

    Anyone still scoffing at the “Death Panels”?

  • Anonymous

    I have tried to figure out, How can you put 30 million people on health care that has never been on health care, and it will save money, Now if this is true, We have the smartest person that ever lived, Why Instein would be impressed, The real truth is, it will not save money, Show me one thing that the government has tried to run, And I will show you run away cost, So the real deal is this, the social security that you were promised is broke, Medicare is broke, America is broke, And we owe our very souls to the to ones  that we keep borrowing money from, We simply have to many old people, And since we don’t have a war to kill off folks, I mean a real war.You have to come up with a way to cut cost. There is only so much and those in power control who gets what, I remember the movie solent green, That may be closer than we realize, Just think you do not need social security if you don’t have old folks, And why not throw in the handicaps and the mental cases as well, think how much we cold save to spend on solar panels,  and tread mills for shrimp, And vacations for our king and his czars.

  • Anonymous

    Instein??

  • Anonymous

    Not true.

  • Anonymous

    Bad analogy. As was the whole broccoli argument.

  • Anonymous

    I believe it! Been researching UK & Canada! Please direct me to where you found these figures. Thank you!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah. So are all of us.

  • Anonymous

    Who you talking about?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000944507866 Michael Stansfield

    I agree with Bonnie Smith on the small business part.  Those with 50 or
    more employees may well “down size” to get under that limit and avoid
    having to participate.  But at some point, the government will come to
    realize that their new system is piling on deficits and the number of
    small businesses with less than 50 employees  has grown.  I’m guessing
    at that point there will be no exemptions for small businesses.  This
    could effectively eliminate small business from the economy, leaving us
    with major corporations and the government as the only employers.

  • Anonymous

    This shows everyone why glenn beck was fired from Fox News.
    glenn and his other uneducated peons carve up a mannequin with a chain saw, etc…
    glenn beck is one crazy idiot!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MCMWZIVDKK26X6SUD3XZ7YYAYI michael

    nothing is free,NOTHING. the commies are not coming THERE HERE and they are in charge

  • http://www.facebook.com/margie.stone.56 Margie Stone

    We are all screwed.  Better take care of any problems you think you may have NOW because unless you are on medicaid/welfare or an illegal, you just “ain’t gonna get the medical care you need”.  Let’s all start going to Mexico for medical care–lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/margie.stone.56 Margie Stone

    Where did you get the information about England’s seniors becoming this generation’s Nazi healthcare?  Would like to read more.

  • http://www.facebook.com/margie.stone.56 Margie Stone

    It’s not the “commies” I am worried about.  It is the American’s that are so stupid that they cannot see what has happened.  There is a book “While Europe Slept”  It should have been required reading for high school students about 4 years ago.  We slept right through Christians becoming an endangered species, patriotism being lost and the value of human life being less than a dog.  At least you can still pick your vet!!

  • http://twitter.com/Snuffy_Joe Joe Snuffy

    Holy krap Glenn.  Obama, Reid and Pelosi need to be your first patients.  What a concept. 

  • http://twitter.com/mcronin640 Michael Cronin

    pat could totally be an evil doctor… just sayin

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_X2NAPSXIXUJPOPPGU6CXVFQFLA Snorri Sturluson

    The reality of Obama Care is current day Sweden; rationing, triage and a high suicide rate. However, the real potential of Obama Care is the development of a health care Black Market including shamans, witch doctors and charlatans. The truth is that neither political party has a solution for providing affordable universal health care via a paltry insurance.

  • landofaahs

    It’s why I said that if I don’t laugh I’ll cry. They used humor in making their point as did I.

  • landofaahs

    Have you ever seen a load of sheep headed for slaughter? They have no clue where they are headed for even though the driver does. They look so happy sitting on their ass lazing around.

  • landofaahs

    LOL. Which is which? Who is Larry?

  • landofaahs

    Oh yea. No better analogy than that.

  • landofaahs

    Every dog has his/her day.

  • Anonymous

    No, this shows you are an immature idiot with his head up his sigmoid colon.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Caruso/1587245855 Sandy Caruso

    Sorry about the typo. Anyone wanting to know about the ‘end of life planning’ can start on page 643 and read the whole section. It’s always the “SECRETARY’s” decision and it is sickening especially when powers are granted to ‘sell the primary residence’?  WHO gets that money and why?

    Anyway you look at this, read it, study it, this legislation will mean disaster for this country.

  • greywolfrs

    Hey, it’s sticky chin, another uneducated comment from a complete moron.

  • greywolfrs

    Instein? You are a moron. It’s spelled Einstein. Dunce.

  • landofaahs

    I believe the barter sysem in local forms within a capitalist overall system is what is in for the future.  For instance, A group of diverse tradesmen etc, form an alliance.  The doctor treats those in the alliance for free and receives free service from others in the group yet he operates in the free market treating others and earning money.  By using barter you receive a benefit but pay no tax which will be increasingly more attreactive as the tax rates go up. And the beauty of it will be that we starve that evil beast called govt. who steals from us and pays off it’s hired thugs.
    There are not enough teets to go around anymore for all the people lined up to suckle.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GVB7WFQYTPBRSL4SI6BAN4ADWE Robinfirst name

    Selective Genocide. Survival of the Fittest. Genetic selection. All Evil practices.

  • greywolfrs

    You.

  • greywolfrs

    Where this is funny, even I have an exacto knife. That must make me a surgeon…

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Exactly, you imbecile. Read the comment.

  • Anonymous

    Cute.

  • Anonymous

    This is about how knowledgeable the people (bureaucrats) deciding who gets which medical treatment will be….

  • Sandie

     You are dead on and the money from the tax you pay will pay for the new federal bureaucracy and the subsidy they will provide for the very poor and illegal aliens.

  • Sandie

     Incidentally, you still won’t have any insuranc, and will pay out of pocket. In the mean time, how do you feel  about your neighbore or congressperson who gets his insurance for almost nothing from his employer,  will not have to pay the tax, won’t have to declare the insurance as income, and will not have to pay out of pocket for any medical care? You are not just getting screwed, you are getting triple screwed!.

  • Sandie

     Sorry to break it to you, but bartering is taxable! The IRS caught on to this many years ago when barter clubs started to avoid declaring income and paying taxes. How it worked:  A member offers services worth so many points (they determine the value).. Others  do the same – small or large. Each time a person actually provided the service, they earned their points. Points were then exchanged for services from others. The IRS taxes your barter on the value of it. Where the Dr would perform an appendectomy that would normally cost $xx,xxx.xx in exchange for  renovations on his house worth the same from a contractor, each party would be required to declare the service as an income, and pay taxes on it.  This lead to barter clubs falling apart and some going underground. The IRS would love to know how to find them and their members. Most members quit because they could never trust who might be a ‘member’.  Some of this continues today on a very very small scale and very informally – no records….. Like… I will cut and coif your hair  in exchange for you doing some sewing for me. It is all on the QT and not easily traceable.

  • Sandie

     Land, this whole barter thing and the Doctor theme reminds me of the stories I heard as a child, I recall that my grandfather who was a doctor back in the days of house calls, had many patients who could not afford to pay him for his medical services during the depression and during the war. However, many did have “Victory Gardens” and would pay him with cabbage, literaly! (as well as other homegrown/made things)., Others who could not even do that would only have to show up at his home where he also had an office, and  he would treat them for free. No one had medical insurance. My grandmother, his nurse and “physicians assistant” (before they ever had a formal category of this) would attend with him, and ride all over the countryside to deliver babies where the medical situation of the mom was dicey. The stories they had were spellbinding. Things these days are soooo different. It is great  – the development of medicine and science… but we lost a lot of something else to pay for it. I guess there is always collateral damage in the wake of progress. ….. Hmmmm progress ….. Progressives and collateral damage…..

  • landofaahs

    Yes. Or a loss because of the lack of Christian love. Nobody wants to be taken advantage of, so it is why something like that only works when the people involved have as the Chistians say “The Servants Heart”. I would never take advantage of someone like we do today. I would rather be taken advantage of by a common person than the reverse. A business person will never get that advantage though

  • landofaahs

    There is the BF exception. Ever heard of it? It’s called the Ben Franlklin Exemption “2 people can keep a secret as long as one of them is dead”. Frankly if I help a person out of a chair I have given a service without pay. Now that person could have called a private company to come and assist him. Atre you getting the point. Do kids pay taxes on mowing lawns? No they don’t. The point is in the future “CATCH ME IF YOU CAN”.

  • landofaahs

    O.K. then, no points. So what is now your Point? If you help a friend with her garden and she helps you paper your room then I guess we pay taxes on that? I pay every tax and more because when they audit me, I want them to give me a refund. The look on the face is “precious”.

  • Anonymous

    That was just stupid..

  • landofaahs

    If someone oprns a door fot you, that is a $5 charge and you muist pay tax on it. Don’t give me excuses because you walked through that door and that equals consent. Need I go further? Lets say your mother…….Get the point?

  • landofaahs

    Hold up a minute. I remember seeing on TV 3 years ago obama eating a sandwich that he did not pay for. Did he claim that on his taxes? Lets get his ass investigated. Bring it on. Oh I can give examples on tape……

  • landofaahs

    Oh wait a sec. A few weeks ago a little thief left a restaurant without paying his bill. The law does not say you can come back when caught and make a payment. It may not be a high crime but it is certainlu a misdemeanor. Get the point?

  • Sandie

    Thats right – they will be just told to bend over.

  • landofaahs

    God bless ya. I’m sure you will be a jewel in his crown.

  • Sandie

    Of course! LOL There was talk at one time of the kids and their paper routes or baby sitting money. That is pretty desperate. They wanted to require reporting/withholding on $$$ these kids earned for Income Tax and SS. Most kids would get back the Income Tax, and SS isn’t taxed under a certain amount of income. Pretty pathetic… what next – tax the kids Halloween candy? I already paid sugar tax on it at the grocery store so I should be able to eat it, give it away, or flush it if I want and no one should be forced to pay anymore on it. The same if I want to help a neighbor out and vice versa. The IRS is just getting way out of hand. Many who work there act like every dime is theirs and they get a notch on their belts for anything they can squeeze out of people. I have had to deal with agents who tried every which way to find something and when they thought they had and smugly formalized a claim, I fought it and won. LMAO

  • Sandie

    Exactly – they want to tax anything they possibly can. Whether you do a barter on a point system or a promise – makes no difference to them. Both people in the exchange get taxed. But like you and BF said ….( hush….. LOL). Supposedly the IRS is now “friendlier” (ya, they smile as they take your money)and we no longer have to provide proof – they do.

  • Sandie

    LMAO that’s what I am saying now – do YOU get the point?

  • Sandie

    HEHEHEHEHHEEEE I would bet he didn’t!

  • Sandie

    Little thief – are you still talking about Obama and the sandwich? LOL He probably felt entitled – after all isn’t he part of the entitlement society?

  • Sandie

    Are you misunderstanding what I have written and where I am coming from that bad? I would never be a jewel in Obama’s crown, nor anyone elses. A thorn in his ass? yes maybe but ….. LMAO

  • landofaahs

    God’s. Not the person who thinks he is.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting combination of words, Sandie. Progessives and collateral damage…scary and disheartening.

  • landofaahs

    You have a very important role to play. Something is going to happen in a few days, I do not know what, but God will provide the answers. Hold on. Hold on. God has amazing things for us.–God bless

  • Sandie

    LMAO… talk about misunderstanding – I sure did. I thought you were referring to Obama. He does have that God complex it seems. Peace be with you, but keep up the good fight.

  • Sandie

    Yes, but you see it too, don’t you?

  • Sandie

    I guess time will tell, won’t it.

  • landofaahs

    Shalom.

  • Anonymous

    Yes. But I’ve been accused of wearing a tin-foil hat. So I don’t know how much credibility my concurrence will lend you.

  • landofaahs

    Yes it will. I am poured out like water but at the same time filled to the cup overflowing with his Spirit and his good grace. How O Lord can I contain myself, for wherever I go you are ther with me, my strength and shield. Always before me is your love and forgiveness like the hands of a gentle Father begging me come, come, come oh blessed one.

  • Sandie

    That tin foil hat thing – I chuckle every time I see them use it in an attempted putdown. It is so cliche.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TAUR6DMGLTQ2XJSUGDWH4LYRMY Terence Donovan

    What a very strange human this man is. Just weird.

  • Anonymous

    They usually pull that one out of the barrel when they are the ones wearing the tin foil headgear.

  • Anonymous

    Why not head them off at the pass, before they have time to draw their weapons? An old cowboy trick I learned watching TV–Roy Rogers, the Lone Ranger, Gunsmoke, Bonanza… not to mention spaghetti westerns from the ’60′s

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tatiana-Menaker/1282878820 Tatiana Menaker

    Even the worst predictions
    could not be close to reality which is “Soviet style” medicine
    Americans almost about to have. As a person who lived half of my life in the
    Soviet Russia and still had two and half decades to enjoy fantastic in
    comparison with all the countries in the world (have you been in the Paris hospital? It is
    18th century) medical services in the US, I am dead scared. Underpaid and
    not afraid to be fired nurses will start to behave towards patients as prison
    guards. Doctors, whose pay will not be affected by their performance and direct
    relationship with their charges, will make less and less mental and emotional
    efforts to help patients and even DMV will become a model of efficiency and
    compassion in comparison with the hospitals Americans will have very soon. Only
    people who lived under real socialist medical care understand the horror of
    what is going on.

    Don’t you understand that
    when you even are buying a timeshare instead of paying directly to hotel, you
    are already a loser, because you are in total power of timeshare bureaucracy:
    they can do whatever they want with you: raise prices for maintenance, not let you
    in the time you want and you becoming a slave of THEIR needs and interests,
    while still paying money. It is taxation without representation. The same
    Obamacare.

     I want back to Russia, at least they do not have
    socialism anymore.

     

  • Anonymous

     Leading “up” to tyranny???  We have tyranny NOW!  He bypasses Congress whenever he feels like it and does things that are totally unconstitutional.  The only thing he hasn’t done (yet) is declare himself a dictator and announce that there won’t BE any more elections.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jerry-Diaz/630672054 Jerry Diaz

    You are so right Parisfox,Never could I have imagined this level of Tyranny here at home In my lifetime.I fear for my Children and my Grand-Children,but I refuse to be silent & Cower in the dark.

  • http://twitter.com/fawnday Dawn Brayton

    It’s wondered if the tax for not getting insured(nobody will be taxed if they get the coverage)would be thought of any differently if the people paying it can choose who they will pay for. It’s also hoped that if doctors decide what medicines people get they will let adults who take childrens medicine still have it. Hopefully doseage won’t be determined by someone’s age.

  • Anonymous

    Critical analysis of facts? Investigating other countries healthcare systems?
    No

    Just grown men playing with chainsaws and fake blood – do you feel that beck is respecting you as an audience – because to me like he is creating television for kids..

    Surely you must find this rather demeaning as an audience?

  • Anonymous

     No you are wrong – if you are too poor to pay you are not ‘taken away’, this is because Obama has increased the reach of Medicaid so that those who could not stump up the cash are covered.

    Additionally if paying insurance is more than 8% of your income then you are exempt from the fine due to a ‘hardship’ provision.

    If you don’t buy coverage you could die – I think that I would prefer to live and get a fine – wouldn’t you?

    If everyone doesn’t pay into the system we all pay more, it is just the same with any insurance scheme.

    We are all responsible and pay our car insurance. People who do not pay car insurance push all of our premiums up – therefore it is irresponsible and unfair on the rest of us that they do not buy insurance. Why on earth does the same not apply in the case of health insurance?

  • Anonymous

     I live in the UK and that is simply incorrect. Euthanasia is illegal here. Lying is a disgusting trait, so either own up – or show me the source of your incorrect information so I can contact them myself.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP7LNKYPMZVOST67YU6GJAMMZU BookW

    If Canada can do it, I don’t see why we can’t.  Doctors don’t need to be millionaires.  Costs can be cut, waste can be pared down, fraud can be prosecuted and hopefully eliminated. Why is it that only the wealthy can afford decent health care?  Does anybody really think that’s ok?  For the rich to get the very best of everything and the rest of us get the crumbs–is that really what ”the American way of life” means?   (I’m talking about healthcare, not finances in general–I realize that some people make more money than others; some people can afford steak and some people have to eat spaghetti; I’m not saying redistribute wealth so that everyone gets steak).  As far as costs go, stop fighting foreign wars and giving foreign aid (most of the countries we give money to hate us anyway) and spend that money on health care–I’m sure there’d be more than enough, then spend the excess to pay down the debt. 

  • Anonymous

    Enclose please find my sketch “Knee Replacement”.
    This is “Canadian way”of medical services.
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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501686865 Hunter Warne

    Actually NO, YOUR WRONG. It’s not the same because nobody has to own a car.  That is a personal choice.  I have a number of friends who live in the city and don’t own a car.  They rarely leave the confines of the city and have no need for one. Conversely everyone will be required to have ObummerCare.  Even those of us who are rarely sick, live healthy lives and generally only visit the doctor once a year for a check-up.  BIG DIFFERENCE!!

  • Anonymous

    There is a really, really good article in the the New Yorker called  Unpopular Mandate, by Ezra Klein. Why do politicians reverse their positions and before you slap the liberal media on it…. check the facts they’re true.  Sheds ALOT of light on the origins of the universal health care debate…   

    heres the link
    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/06/25/120625fa_fact_klein

  • Anonymous

    OMG——you guys are ingenious.  I can’t stop laughing at this marvelous parody!  Sad to say often times truth and fiction can intertwine and doubly sad to say this is obviously a reflection upon the factual results of obamacare.  I wish this could go viral.  Thanks Glenn, Stu, Pat and team.  sometimes pictures do speak louder than words.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Paul,
    This is simply a parody.  I think many or most of us realize the critical nature of the topic of healthcare.  I take it as a step back from the usual Glenn seriousness of conversation and education.  Sadly, I did not feel demeaned as you might suggest-in fact I laughed through most of it.  Sadly, too, there is a balance of truth and fiction.  People will necessarily fall back into self-care and the old standby tonic cure all salesmen  It undoubtedly will set medical advances back centuries–not to say that nature does provide many natural plant product precursors to modern medicine and therapies

  • S Iw

    THIS is what “patriots” are watching? No wonder…

  • w. Parker

    Obama was leaving the country club golf course when he was accosted by an armed robber who demanded, “Give me all of your money!”  Barack haughtily replied, “Do you know who I am. I’m the President of the United States!” The robber snarled back, “Then give me all MY money.”

  • William Gill

    I retired from the military in 6/2001 after 21
    years never making more then $26,320 and putting in 10-12 hour days as a norm.
    I finally had enough medical issues that I could no longer serve my country.
    Due to injuries received while on active duty. (Crushed disk in my back, kidney
    damage and a few other major problems) In my first two enlistment contracts it
    states after 20 years in the military I would receive FREE medical care. The
    free medical care is no longer free. I have to pay an annual fees and
    co-pays for every visit and if I have to see a doctor I must wait 3-4 weeks
    just to get in the door. Then if I have to see a specialist, that’s another 3
    weeks and ONLY if fed insurance (tri-care) approves it. Some times they call
    back to the doctors office and tell them NO! we will not approve that
    treatment, find another or the patient must do without. This is our government
    run health care. THERE WERE TIMES WHEN I WAS IN SUCH PAIN I WOULD JUST LIE DOWN
    ON THE FLOOR AND THE ONLY TIME I WOULD MOVE IS TO CRAWL ON MY HANDS AND KNEES
    TO GO TO THE BATHROOM. This would last for weeks at a time it’s also pretty
    hard to maintain a job when you can’t be at work.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Johnson/1234633273 Don Johnson

    Cost containment. I hate the thing, but even if I liked it in theory, in all the 2700 pages, they left out the one thing that could move it a bit closer to viable – a way to control the run away actual costs of care – which are driven, not ultimately by hospitals or doctors, but by all of us who “want the best,” but we have no idea, nor do we care, what it costs. Moreover, we’ll sue to get it. Granted, doctors/hospitals haven’t fixed it. But how could they, outnumbered bt $100 to $1 by politicians and lawyers.

  • Lioness

    Our health care system in it’s current state is not stellar for sure, but if you are teed off on how insurance companies regulate your medical care, and if you feel you do not currently receive the proper preventative or proactive care from your current physician now, just wait. The federal government will now be the one’s dictating what level of care you will receive. The federal government that can’t even manage it’s current government programs with any level of efficiency. Think of all the things that are not detectable on your standard X ray for example, my Dad could have been diagnosed in stage 1 cancer if a CT scan was ordered. He’s in his 70’s and had been coughing and hacking for years and all Medicare and Hap gave him was an X ray. Less than one year later he’s in stage 3. I think they already implemented the death panels, Obama care is just the icing on the cake.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christy.crawford.39 Christy Crawford

     paulsays– even if everything worked out exactly as you say, I have two very disagreeable points for you–
    1– everyone who will now be included on the already overstretched Medicaid will once again become all us poor taxpayers problem

    2– I keep hearing the argument made about “everyone has car insurance” but my car insurance is $50 per month, my health insurance is $380 frankly that’s a huge difference, and yes this program of our unfortunate president WILL drive up that cost even further and no I’m not going to go looking for a government handout because I don’t want the government to own my health!

    “Repent Harlequin! said the Ticktock Man”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DZK2DD6Q5DSXKMDADLOX4BXKYM Anthony

    I’m waiting for him to grab the Claymore two hand broad sword in the background and amputate a limb.

  • Anonymous

    The threshold that Obama has increased Medicare’s reach to is around $30,000 for a family of 4 – which clearly is a family in need of help – paying for food is hard enough on this income – let alone healthcare. As a Christian I feel that it is only right that we help those who just can’t afford.
    Medicare – a government administered scheme using private hospitals is in fact a great system, and is substantially more efficient that private care in terms of costs – so it is not like we are being ripped off in order to help out those who really need it.
    The ‘public option’, or medicaid as a scheme that you can buy into was of course something that was blocked by the Republicans – even though it would have been totally self-funded by those entering the scheme, but Republicans don’t want public healthcare to suceed as they are in the pocket of insurance companies, and are ideologically against any government scheme (apart from the army) being sucessful. …naturally the Army get a medicaid-like scheme while they are in active service.
    On your second point, referring to the car-insurance analogy. You make the point that health insurance is very much more expensive than car insurance – yes and it is always likely to cost more to insure a car than a human being. However, part of the reason that healthcare is so expensive is that not everyone is covered in the system – people who buy coverage are much more likely to be older or more likely to get ill, and this drives up costs for everyone.
    To go back to the car-insurance idea – it is like all the very worst drivers, with the oldest and least safe cars being the ones buying car insurance, then premiums would soar. The only reason the car insurance is a reasonable cost is that the vast majority of drivers buy coverage – because it is illegal not to. Therefore the costs of poor drivers and unsafe cars are offset by good drivers and safe drivers. This is the same idea, but in healthcare insurance.

  • Anonymous

    The threshold that Obama has increased Medicare’s reach to is around $30,000 for a family of 4 – which clearly is a family in need of help – paying for food is hard enough on this income – let alone healthcare. As a Christian I feel that it is only right that we help those who just can’t afford.

    Medicare – a government administered scheme using private hospitals is in fact a great system, and is substantially more efficient that private care in terms of costs – so it is not like we are being ripped off in order to help out those who really need it.

    The ‘public option’, or medicaid as a scheme that you can buy into was of course something that was blocked by the Republicans – even though it would have been totally self-funded by those entering the scheme, but Republicans don’t want public healthcare to suceed as they are in the pocket of insurance companies, and are ideologically against any government scheme (apart from the army) being sucessful. …naturally the Army get a medicaid-like scheme while they are in active service.

    On your second point, referring to the car-insurance analogy. You make the point that health insurance is very much more expensive than car insurance – yes and it is always likely to cost more to insure a car than a human being. However, part of the reason that healthcare is so expensive is that not everyone is covered in the system – people who buy coverage are much more likely to be older or more likely to get ill, and this drives up costs for everyone.

    To go back to the car-insurance idea – it is like all the very worst drivers, with the oldest and least safe cars being the ones buying car insurance, then premiums would soar. The only reason the car insurance is a reasonable cost is that the vast majority of drivers buy coverage – because it is illegal not to. Therefore the costs of poor drivers and unsafe cars are offset by good drivers and safe drivers. This is the same idea, but in healthcare insurance.

  • Anonymous

    If our people do not listen, there will be no FREE country in a few years.   The FREEBIES  are not free, they will cost our freedom.   IF the Immigrants & people who want everything for free, then they ought to go somewhere else, because this country will be no more.

  • greywolfrs

    Not that I disagree with anything you are saying, but I would add something. If people feel they are not getting preventative care, what will happen when you add 30 million plus people to it? Besides that, what will happen when there are no longer enough doctors? Here’s what will happen. First, the law of supply and demand will kick in, meaning you WILL wait for EVERYTHING. On top of that, the price will skyrocket, with more demand. Second, when the price shoots through the roof, the flat rate Obamao care establishes for insurance will no longer be enough. The Insurance companies will begin to lose money. When that happens, they will go out of business. (no company will stay in business to lose money)

    At that point, there will be another “crisis.” The Feds will have to step in and do something about that “crisis.” What could they ever do? Impliment a single-payer system. This whole bill is designed to bring the country to single-payer.

  • greywolfrs

    Another dunce heard from. You have obviously never heard of satire.

  • Lioness

    Now how do you convince the die hard socialists and bleeding hearts of this, all they see is free health care, completely unaware of the consequences. It’s unfortunate that most people can’t listen to logic and learn from the experience of others, it actually has to hurt them before they realize there’s a problem. By then it’s usually too late.

  • George Ragen

    Acutally now I’m GLAD we have Obamacare instead of this dumbass…Thank the lord we have Obama guys because it REALLY doesn’t get any better than this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dannyrebecca.holcomb DannyRebecca Holcomb

    paulsays, I feel deeply for you! Government was not commanded to feed the poor, cloth them, or even get them medical help. That lies on us the individual. You can’t force charity from the heart. That is something that must be done willingly.

    Also as to your car insurance analogy, government doesn’t force people that do not own any vehicles to carry any kind of auto insurance. That applies to all other insurances for that matter except now of course health insurance

    A foot note the operative word is insurance, cost are high because you have too many people using it as a charge card because they or their children have the sniffles. Oh and as for medicaid being more efficent than private insurance, talk to doctors that do take it. They will tell you they take a loss from it, many other doctors avoid it for that reason. Obama is even talking about cutting payments to doctors even more. I wonder why private insurance rates are rising! Doctors have to make up their losses from somewhere.

  • w. Parker

    You shouldn’t be paying squat for treatment for a service connected disorder.  Have you spoken to a county veterans affairs office to file a disability claim? The disability the service offers you after discharge is usually less than what you’d receive if you filed your own claim.  As your disability worsens since discharge, your rating should increase too 

  • Anonymous

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  • w. Parker

    The Constitution . . . meant that its coordinate branches should be checks on each other. But the opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch…~  Thomas Jefferson

  • Anonymous

    Under Obamacare you realize that if you are declared not worth saving, that means your organs and limbs will be salvageable.    There will be an undisclosed branch of the death panel that will be authorized to sell these parts as part of a government agency’s budget.  So all those old people or young persons with no families can be held in status and organs removed to help those who have no insurance. The bodies would be supported by medical machines.   Body parts not used for installation into an Obama supporter would be used for research.  And as in the past the government could use those non Obama supporters who are ill could be used to advance medical research without their permission.  Oh wait was there a movie about that called COMA.   And didn’t the government actually use people for illegal research.    Their is no more private property then the human mind and body.   And as we know the government can and has used private property for the “public greater good”.  So get ready for the IRS to confiscate private property when ever the government decides you’re criminal.    That means they take whatever they want for whatever reason THEY see fit.  You are no longer free but the chattel to the despot in control.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/THF565Z7BOEUJLGOQKXTQCT7AQ Maggie

    So why can’t we get more Dr. to come forward on T.V. and tell the general public how this will really affect everyone speak at Tea Party Groups. .his is horrible how it will affect the elderly ect. plus its now a so called TAX and run by the Goverment well we know how there late fee are interest on interest you can never get caught up. This will never work people middle class are getting slamed and what about the little worker bee who can just put food on the table now must be taxed when he can not pay health insurance. Is no one intouch with the real world anymore is there not one person who will step up and make everyone know the truth. Because most people are just hearing part of the problem and we The People need a spokes person sure Glenn Becks helps but not everyone can get the network he is on. Sign me up how can I help? This can not happen what a huge mistake. Yes Dr’s are already taking a early retirement. Oh by the way the Gov. is not God telling a elderly person he or she is to old for a certain operon at 65 who know might live to 95 only God can. Oh thats right we are taking God out of everything now in America including freedom of speech. How do we let this happen.Wake up people get off you sofa’s chairs gaet out spreading the word not after the fact. We can not change the damage to our country. All the smart people in the world and this is all we got. We the people by the people what ever happened to that. HELP we all need to come forward. Forget about next weekend cutting the grass walk and talk to you neighbors spread the word if you don’t wakeup the 3.8 tax on you home or you Moms retirement now part goes to the tax yes just what We the people need one more TAX. Oh I’m sorry I think it 20 more taxes.            Enough get off you behinds and lets do something about this now. I need your help spread the word.  Mr. Beck I’m with you. We need to get down into the neighborhoods walk them what ever it takes explain to the elderly and the worker bee. America is going down hill fast.  This is a wakeup call. Talk/Walk/and Action is what we need for we the people. Carring Person.  

  • http://blog.digidave.org/ digidave

    @facebook-501686865:disqus You are correct – not everyone has to own a car – so forcing a tax on them to lower the premiums would be unfair. 

    Conversely – everyone is alive and at some point in their life will have health issues. It’s just a fact of life. 

    So by your comment – you are actually making an argument for ObamaCare as I read it. The comment from @paulsays:disqus makes sense – and your point is that EVERYONE will at some point benefit (use) their health care – unless they are immortal.

  • greywolfrs

    To understand what I have just said, much less realize it for one’s self, it would take critical thinking skills. Those are something a lot of Americans lack, especially our younger kids…

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  • Anonymous
  • http://www.facebook.com/bekag Rebekah Galyon

    To answer you quetion about whether I would rather pay a fine or buy coverage from Obamacare… I would chose death.  It’s called FREEDOM!!  I have a choice as to how I live my life per the Constitution of the United States of America! 

    Your quote of  the “everyone doesn’t pay into the system we all pay more” has proven the point of illegal immigration.  Personally, I can’t afford to pay anymore taxes and I’m inches from the “middle class”, as dems put it.  And if you think we should all pay more taxes then why doesn’t your wonderful Obama do something about the Illegal Immigrants that continue to come into our country the improper way!??  I bet that would bring some much needed money “taxes”.  The more taxes we all have to pay, the more the poverty this country will incur!

    Last but not least.  Car insurance is just an ignorant analogy.  We pay car insurance to protect our vehicles and injuries sometimes if we should be hurt, God forbid.  It is actually an option in some states not a law.  Which I believe should be an option all states.  It is yours and my right to make the choice to purchase a “product” and insurance, which is a product as well, in any shape or form.  I should not be forced or penalized because I don’t want to purchase either.  If something should happen, then that is on he/she…. whomever did not make the choice of buying that insurance or “PRODUCT.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/bekag Rebekah Galyon

    By the way, I am also a Christian and I believe in helping people in need, but let those that can help those people help them by their own free will!!  Not forced by the government because regardless of what you think, most of the money/taxes that you pay don’t go to the needy people you want it to.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bekag Rebekah Galyon

    @paulsays  –  I also think you need to research why insurance premiums really go up.  You know they anticipate the market as well, just like passing this Obamacare piece of crap!

  • Anonymous

    The constitution is a great document in some ways, but in others is flawed. I hardly think it came from God, as the many of the people who wrote it kept slaves. If it was so perfect why did it have to be amended 27 times!

    I am my own man, and am not tied to a 200 year-old document. Although politicians must work within the constitution, my opinions and ideas need not – so any arguments you make that point to the constitution I’m afraid I have to ignore.

    I don’t see how my point about everyone paying to a scheme reducing costs – bears any relation to immigration. I am not talking about immigration, and I really fail to see any parallel.

    I also did not say that taxes should be increased. The tax burden on the average family (the middle class) is much too high, whereas the taxes on high, and very high earners is much too low. I hope Obama increases taxes on those who can afford to pay. (Which is not me, and I guess not you either)

    Also I’d like to point out that I never called Obama ‘wonderful’, all I am doing, is showing where Glenn is not being fair in his journalism’ – towards Obama. I have many complaints about Obama.

    More taxes does not mean more poverty. When America was growing at its fastest, and unemployment was low under President Eisenhower (a Republican) the top rate of tax (over $400,000) was 92%. Some of the countries with the highest rates of income tax – like Norway (47% top rate) – have some of the lowest poverty levels. (Of course I am talking about top rate income taxes – middle class families like yours and mine are not affected.)

    My car insurance analogy makes a lot of sense really. Whether it is right of wrong to be forced to pay legally in terms of medical care is another matter. But in terms of the mechanics of the insurance system – there is little difference between car insurance and medical insurance.

  • Anonymous

    Democracy works by the free will of the people to express their opinion, not everyone agrees, and therefore everyone is always going to have to pay (via their taxes) for things they would rather not.

    I think that our military budget is far too high, I also think that we should give more tax dollars to schools. However if I want to live in a democracy I have to accept that I don’t make the personal decision of how my tax dollars are spent.

    Democracy means that these compromises are forced on all of us. However, unless we want to live under a dictatorship then democracy is the best we have.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5DGLD3WTQMYIRLQ2KIJQ36TE6E joylene

    Obummer care, all part of the socialist agenda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/robyn.headley1 Robyn Headley

    BECK IS BEYOND STUPID