Obamacare: Is it a tax or not?

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After months and months of the Obama administration selling Obamacare to the American people by saying it was definitely not a tax, the Supreme Court has ruled Obamacare and the individual mandate constitutional by saying that it is a tax.

“22 new taxes are coming your way now,” Glenn told listeners this morning.

Glenn pointed out that it is no secret that the American people would have rejected Obamacare had it been introduced to them as a tax, which is exactly why they didn’t.

Nancy Pelosi, an expert in progressive deception, was a champion at dancing around the issue of “is it a tax?” Glenn played audio of an interview of Nancy Pelosi “answering” that very question.

Interviewer: “The President has said himself on numerous occasions that the individual mandate is not a tax. Do you think the individual mandate in the healthcare law is a tax?”

Nancy Pelosi: “The Court has upheld the legislation. I think — and I have to see the specific language – that they identified with how we wrote the bill in the House as part of the decision, their documentation for the decision. Call it what you will, it is a step forward for America’s families and you know what? Take ”yes” for an answer. This is a very good thing for the American people. What you’re talking about here is Washington talk. What is happening out there is children, families with a child with a preexisting medical condition, which means for a lifetime they will be discriminated against in terms of insurance – not anymore. Same thing with when the bill is fully implemented. That’s what’s really important to people. Technical terms, that’s for us here. What means something to the American people is what it does for them.”

“The word “tax” means nothing to the American people?” Pat questioned.

Americans only deal with taxes every day when they buy something, get paid for something – there’s even a “death tax” now, thanks to this administration. So, like Glenn, Pat, and Stu pointed out, it’s highly unlikely the “Washtington talk” of taxes is something the American people don’t care about. After all, that is why the Obama Administration didn’t pitch the individual mandate to the American people as a tax.

One of the main topics Glenn points out in his book Cowards is how progressives change language to present laws, bills, etc to the American people that they would never go for if they were upfront and honest about what they were pushing.

“They’re shape shifters,” Glenn said. “They become whatever they have to become. Words become whatever they have to become. Shape shifting. Well, okay. I’m not going to play that game and I’m not going to be embarrassed and I’m not going to be coward.”

  • landofaahs

    It’s a death tax to kill seniors.  It’s an economic tax to kill the economy.  And it is a tax designed to kill our nation.  Any questions?

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Constitutionally this should never have been held up as a tax; as it is only with the actions of an extreme judicial activist that it even could be conceived of as a ‘tax’ by the same standards. The progressives, Pelosi, Reid, Obama and so many others lied and distorted and twisted all to make sure they got their way.

    They are worse than shape shifters; they are true demons who can shape shift, as among the Hindi legends of the Rasaskas, spirits of absolute corruption who can take human guise and form, while are devils like tigers in their true revelations.

    What matters now is this:

    We accept we have lost the SCOTUS round of battle for our country via Obamacare.
    We get moving and yield no ground, and do not surrender as we push for the total victory.
    We score the victory in Nov of this year.
    We have Obama and all his cronies tried for their crimes in the new year to come.
    We watch on live TV as the jail cells close behind them and are welded shut.

    2012 WE TAKE IT BACK.
    Never forget
    Never surrender

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    It is the fulfillment for Obama of the social justice; the ultimate redistribution of all wealth and means for any and all reasons. Now he has unlimited authority (as if that mattered to Obama at all), to do as he pleases.

  • landofaahs

    It comes down do “ATTACKS” on us.

  • landofaahs

    The sad thing is that the liberals are too stupid to understand that there is no more wealth to redistribute.  We are broke and printing fiat money.  Make sure you get $1 bills so for $!00, you get 100 pieces of toilet paper. 

  • Anonymous

    How come we Will Be Forced to Show Insurance Papers, but we Cannot Ask illegal aliens to see Their Documentation that Proves they are here Legally???

  • landofaahs

    Good question but probably because the illegals here who need treatment won’t be bled for the fine for not having insurance, but we citizens will.  And top it all off with it will be passed onto us via higher premiums.  Are we ready for pitchforks and torches yet?

  • Anonymous

    The USA permits abortions because of “privacy”.  Why is so surprising that Forced Healthcare is a “tax” and Stolen Valor “free speech”?

    What’s going on here is that certain people are manipulating the words of laws to fit what the Constitution permits as a means to permit *anything*.

    “The Government shall have the power to seize the accounts of the rich — and the poor.”  It’s not theft, it’s a tax… (wink, wink).

    “The Government shall have the power to force Abortions.”  If the Government taxes the people for these Abortions, it’s OK.

    This is madness.  There are people who will say it will never come to this, just let us have affordable healthcare…

    They Lie.

  • landofaahs

    Huckaby on Fox News said it right.  Businesses need to tell their employees that all these extra taxes in obamacare means one of two things.  Obama stays and many of you go or you stay and obama goes.  Which do you want.  Good point Huck.

  • Anonymous

    To answer your question:  Because the Democrats need to have Fred Flintstone, Betty Boop, Marilyn Monroe, Michael Jackson, Jimmy Hoffa, Sr., as well as illegals vote so they can win.  If everyone was required to show identification, that would eliminate the dead vote, the cartoon character vote and the illegal vote.

  • Anonymous

    Botox Betty strikes again!  She is living proof that botox has affected her brain.

  • Anonymous

    The Most Expensive President In United States History.

  • Anonymous

    I’m an American. I was born ready. It is in my blood.

  • Anonymous

    I could put about 100 likes for your comment!! How did she ever get to be a senator??? I think they are just “mainstreaming” people like her.

  • Anonymous

    No Doubt… Obama has outspent all other presidents added together, and his wife has outspent all other 1st Ladies added together.  And if I want my dang Bagel with Cream Cheese and a Huge Latte, that’s my choice M.O. NOT YOURS!!!

  • Anonymous

    I may be wrong, but I have listened to the comments of former Speaker Pelosi many many times and I believe that at the end of her speech, she doesn’t say what it does “for” them but what it does “to” them.  Am I wrong?

  • Anonymous

     OBAMA’S WAY  – - TAX YOU TO DEATH.

  • http://twitter.com/Falcon16D Dale Larson

    Tax Rep Pelosi 100% of her wealth not her government pay check and see how much support the new heath care law.

  • Anonymous

    how you get all people “equal” to archive your socialism dreamland?
    you cant make the poor rich,that cost to much (effort and money),
    only solution, you make the rich poor……..

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Same as they did in Russia with the Ruble. It  was not even worth the money it was printed upon.

  • Anonymous

    actualy glenn, the american people did reject obamacare,but congress and the prez. disrgarded us. we are just serfs to them.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a tax, so what?  Semantics.  Obama lied about it, so what?  That’s what he does.  Meanwhile conservatives do something far worse than lie.  They DO NOTHING!  They are powerless wimps compared to the Obama machine.  They are constantly beat to the punch, again and again.  It’s disgusting to know these people represent my interests in Washington.  Grow some Reagan-sized cojones, Republicans, get a little mean and nasty and stay up a little later developing a strategy to defeat this harmful but effective adversary.  Geez, Ron Paul is starting to look better and better. 

  • Anonymous

    And if we stick together and go to the polls we can defeat him in Nov,

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BGC7U7QUFEWSSV3H4IFHLAFK54 mudslide

    I know one thing – this administration is taxing my patience!

  • http://www.facebook.com/giri.girishankar Giri Girishankar

    How on earth could the Democrats celebrate the SCOTUS ruling? Scotus says if you want to enforce the individual mandate, you cannot take recourse to the Commerce Clause; you must enforce it as a tax. The President has to eat crow because he vehemently denied it was a tax. He even said he would not increase the taxes on people earning less than $250,000. Guess what. This newly ‘imposed’ tax is going to fall on people earning much less. For the sake of dignity in the practice of democracy, the President and the lawmakers must find another way to do it.

  • midnightgolfer

    Taxation by misrepresentation is morally worse that taxation without representation. May their lies come back to haunt them like a deplorable hag.

  • Anonymous

    I have no idea but I find her repulsive….

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbara.batchelorabernathy Barbara Batchelor-Abernathy

    I live in Texas, I say its time for a treason trial to start

  • http://twitter.com/jude83268949 jude

    Also why the really really rich are leaving the USA until this madness under this administration is over, they are not fools.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Caruso/1587245855 Sandy Caruso

    Lets face it Nancy. This legislation was about the pre-existing conditions like AIDS with most of your constituents. This wasn’t about pre-existing conditions for Mom and Dads and their minor children. You’re not kdding anyone Queen Nancy.
    BTW…that’s called San Francisco talk…if you know what I mean.

  • Anonymous

    I would like to know how much I would have to pay for my health care tax hike . I earn a smal wadge and I am disalbed and a vet . The healthcare cost would require me to pay around 50% of my income per year . I still will pay my normal taxes also ……

  • http://twitter.com/jude83268949 jude

    A MUST READ
    Page Printed from: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2012/06/the_chief_justice_done_good.html 

  • Anonymous

    Of course it’s a TAX. The bottom line is that the rich, ones who make above average wages, will not be affected like the poorer people. The tax pinch will be borne mostly by the middle class and lower, while the truly destitute people will get sicker and drain the system down. If you think that Obamacare will be only costing as outlined in the documents, you are in for a big surprise. The next step will be to increase healthcare taxes annually to make it survive.

  • Anonymous

    What I wonder is how is there such a concentration of nuts to keep reelecting nuts such as Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, and their like?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lee-Sullivan/100000256745869 Lee Sullivan

    Pelosi doing a Bill Clinton?…”It depends on what the meaning of the word “tax” is.
    “What you’re talking about here is Washington talk….Technical terms, that’s for us here.” 
    Washington talk ALWAYS spells the same…T-A-X.

  • Anonymous

    I’d found myself wondering about the whole “It’s a Tax” thing – especially since President Obama and his followers has been so careful about NOT going in that direction. The article you cite is beautifully constructed and gives hope in what might otherwise seem a darkest hour: if ObamaCare is a TAX, it can be repealed by a 51 vote, as opposed to the filibuster-proof 60 vote that might be needed if it were to depend on the Commerce Clause. But now the Chief Justice has clearly stated that ObamaCare is an act that could not be found constitutional under the Commerce Clause (which, as the author points out, the Chief Justice has now clearly SET LIMITS TO for future politicians). Add to that the fact that there’s no way to run away from its significance now… hmmm. Yeah. Now I understand why someone yesterday said that the Chief Justice was playing bridge, and not chess. Actually, it might even be more like Texas Hold’em, and now we have a hand to play. 

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Pelosi and Debbie Wasserman Schultz are some of the most confusing people on the planet. Hypocrisy and shame do not enter into the liberal mindset because “the end justifies the means” is at the heart of everything they do. Constitutional law REALLY means nothing to liberals because they are completely mystified why anyone would think it’s hypocritical to lie and obfuscate if their intentions are noble. I wonder if they realize that they have become Richard Nixon? He wasn’t a crook because he was answering to a higher call. They are constantly offended because they believe that they should never have to explain how three days ago, Obamacare wasn’t a tax, yet, today, it is…and it doesn’t matter because people aren’t interested? Oh no. Everyone loves a good taxing, ladies. Especially when $250,000 means $25,000. It feels good to say that this is all for the “children and babies and poor people” …and people born without morals who think “what’s mine is mine and what’s yours is mine” is somehow a more noble mindset than believing in the human spirit that expresses that determination and hard work should be rewarded and sloth and aimlessness are choices that should not. Instead, they style themselves the champions of the poor and downtrodden, as if the United States is somehow living in the world Dickens’s Great Expectations or Oliver. What happens in poor, black neighborhoods when rewards are given for illegitimate children and sloth? More illegitimacy, more black-on-black violence, more fatherlessness, more despair, more crime. Yeah, I’d say that their formula for success has worked out great. I wonder if it has ever occurred to them or their pet schnauzers from the black community like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, that perhaps, the most telling act of racism is an elitist white woman patting them all on the heads and telling them that there’s simply no way for them to make it without their intervention? Why is it racist to believe that there is nothing about the color of my skin that makes me superior to those of color if I believe that the black community (or any community of color) has just as many individuals possessed of just as much intelligence as me? Maybe if we stopped acting like they are too stupid to be equal, those communities would actually improve. Obamacare is a liberal dream because it delves into the most private areas of our lives and exposes them on a nationwide level. Should this ridiculous law stand, we may as well acknowledge that from now on, not a single act in this country is individual, not a single choice is of consequence and not a single person is capable of living without the government’s “invisible hand”. I choose Adam Smith’s invisible hand and reject Obama’s. His goal is to make government incursion through oversight and control in our lives so commonplace that it will simply disappear into the background, allowing freedom to wither and die and inevitably leading to the rise of socialism without having fired a single shot. But here’s the deal. I have news for Nancy Pelosi, Obama and all liberals. While you may take everything I have and vilify me, I will rebuild. My story of rising from poverty may be meaningless to you because of my sex and the color of my skin, but what you believe is irrelevant. I will still rise because that is who I am and I have already done it once. You can keep your beliefs. I will overcome your belief the same way that I did it before – hard work, ethics, faith. You go ahead and keep doing things your way. Guess what. The poor will become even more poor when your pathetic excuse for principles are applied. You simply cannot abase the rich enough to force the rise of the poor, you can only create more poverty. That is the history of the world and the fact that all of you leftists out there can’t see the results of your heedless drive toward national socialism makes you fools bound to a fatal destiny. 

  • Anonymous

    Cowards is one word to use for them. I prefer names that are a bit saltier. Scum sucking sphincter smoochers. Lying narcissistic D-bags. Ya know, the usual.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Remember that Pelosi and the admin are trying to convince people that its not a tax, but a penalty; thus avoiding the simple majority needed to repeal any tax. They are in trouble, major time, they know it, and are now fighting a rear guard against the anger of America.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000013697398 Dee Wools

    Not only illegals, but muslims under sharia law because they do not believe in insurance, so they are exempt in obamacare. . .BUT, they get the insurance without the cost. . .we will pay for their healthcare. it is like the muslim tax called 
     Dhimmis that non-muslims have to pay for being tolerated by muslims. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/marshallapeters Marshall Peters

    So, you better be stocking up on Precious Metals!

  • dorrie

    What a FRAUD this administration is imposing on America !!

  • dorrie

    Americans need to say – en-mass – that they REFUSE to pay for this atrocity!!

  • dorrie

    we HAVE to!!  There is no other choice!  He is intentionally destroying America!

  • Anonymous

    Now that it has been declared a tax, the congress should have to go back and take another vote on the law. Since it was not brought to the floor as a tax and these congressmen and women did not read the bill, they should be forced to take another vote on this newly declared law. The people must insist on a new vote.

    Any law that is brought forth for a vote must be read. This should be the law of the land. It is outrageous that they did not read it and laughed when asked. It should be illegal to vote on any bill or law if they don’t fully understand what it is or what is in it. We pay them to read the bill before they vote. No one in the private sector would get away with doing a job like this. Imagine a mortgage company or a lawyer doing this? They would be in so much trouble legally if they didn’t read the papers that were going to be signed. If we don’t hold these people accountable, then they will do just about anything they want without the people being in charge of them. It is already happening. The people will have less power and the government will tell us what to do.

    Read the bill and take another vote on it as a tax. Let’s see how many cowards would still vote for it.

  • Anonymous

    Is it true that Obama and all the congressmen and women get their own healthcare, not Obamacare? I think they will still have the best healthcare for themselves and family members paid by tax payers. if that is true, they should have to use the same healthcare we have. Maybe that’s why they don’t care.

  • Richard Scarbrough

    We don’t need to re-write tax law.  We just need to read and understand it.

    Hi everyone, Just a note to let you know. Pete Hendrickson is out of jail now. Pete served close to a 2 year sentence in Michigan federal prison, not for income tax evasion (as the gov’t will state) but rather because he would not change his testimony to admit that what he believed and wrote about did not conform to what this Michigan tax court stated was income tax law. A jury of his peers were not given the law to read for themselves but rather was advised by the judge as to what the judge interpreted the law to mean. In my eyes, Pete has earned the right to be heard. He has paid with 2 years of his life away from friends and family. His website is http://www.losthorizons.com WARNING: Do not go there if you’re not prepared for a carefully disected discussion on income tax law. It will really PISS you off. But, then again, with the latest Supreme Court decision… who isn’t. You’ll find this on his website:
    In This

    The Land of the Free and Home of the Brave

    I had a dream the other night, I didn’t understand.
    A figure walking through the mist, with flintlock in his hand.
    His clothes were torn and dirty, as he stood there by my bed.
    He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low, he said:

    “We fought a revolution, to secure our liberty.
    We wrote the Constitution, as a shield from tyranny.
    For future generations, this legacy we gave.
    In this, the land of the free and home of the brave.

    “The freedom we secured for you, we hoped you’d always keep.
    But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep.
    Your freedom gone, your courage lost, you’re no more than a slave.
    In this, the land of the free and home of the brave.

    “You buy permits to travel, and permits to own a gun, permits to
    start a business, or to build a place for one.
    On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
    Although you have no voice in choosing, how the money’s spent.

    “Your children must attend a school that doesn’t educate.
    Your Christian values can’t be taught, according to the state.
    You read about the current news, in a regulated press.
    You pay a tax you do not owe, to please the I.R.S.

    “Your money is no longer made of Silver or of Gold.
    You trade your wealth for paper, so your life can be controlled.
    You pay for crimes that make our Nation, turn from God in shame.
    You’ve taken Satan’s number, as you’ve traded in your name.

    “You’ve given government control, to those who do you harm,
    so they can padlock churches, and steal the family farm, and
    keep our country deep in debt, put men of God in jail, and harass
    your fellow countrymen, while corrupted courts prevail.

    “Your public servants don’t uphold the solemn oath they’ve sworn.
    Your daughters visit Doctors, so their children won’t be born.
    Your leaders ship artillery and guns to foreign shores,
    And send your sons to slaughter, fighting other people’s wars.

    “Can you regain the freedom for which we fought and died?
    Or don’t you have the courage, or the faith to stand with pride?
    Are there no more values for which you’ll fight to save?
    Or do you wish your children, live in fear and be a slave?

    “Sons of the Republic, arise and take a stand!
    Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land!
    Preserve our Great Republic, and each GOD-Given Right!
    And pray to GOD, to keep the torch of Freedom burning bright!”

    As I awoke he vanished, in the mist from whence he came.
    His words were true, we are not Free, we have ourselves to blame.
    For even now as tyrants trample each GOD-Given Right,
    We only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight.

    If he stood by your bedside, in a dream, while you’re asleep,
    and wonders what remains of our Rights he fought to keep,
    what would be your answer, if he called out from the grave:
    “IS THIS STILL THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE?”

    A Poem by: Thelen Paulk
    Respectfully submitted for thought and consideration.

  • Anonymous

    That fool pelosi has absolutely no brains and the IQ of a slot machine slug.  I think we are all astute enough to know the difference between  costs, premiums, and a TAX!!! What irks me is the fact that the Supremes did not really review the so-called ‘healthcare law’ (let’s face it–they have all had the time to read it since the liar in chief signed it) and Robters did not have kagan recused from the decision-making process  (remember, she was the legal advisor for that abominable law). If a large number of citizens took the time to look into the 2700+ pages of yomammacare, the Supremes could have done the same.  It was no surprise that ginsberg, sotomayer, and kagan were on the same page, the corker was Roberts’ cave-in to the left wingers.  There is still time to remove that oaf from the Oval Office; I don’t care if it’s through impeachment or indictment.  And speaking of indictment, the DAzzz should be sitting in a jail and not in that swanky office we are providing him to rest his stinking buns in.

  • Anonymous

    land…ahs:  It is also a death tax to kill any citizen the death panel deems unfit to live.  This means that the mentally ill, mentally retarded, and comatose individuals will NOT receive medical care, period.  There is a list that the physicians must go by and this is already circulated and in use.

  • Anonymous

    land…ahs:  It is also a death tax to kill any citizen the death panel deems unfit to live.  This means that the mentally ill, mentally retarded, and comatose individuals will NOT receive medical care, period.  There is a list that the physicians must go by and this is already circulated and in use.

  • Anonymous

    A Lenin quote, “IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THREE-FOURTHS OF THE HUMAN RACE PERISHED. THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE REMAINING ONE-QUARTER BE COMMUNIST.”
    United We Stand…..AMERICA, the sleeping giant has awakened. There are more of us, then there are of them. They just scream louder. The silent majority will be heard in November. We are a Beacon of Light to the world, Our foundation of judeo-christian roots are so deep, they penetrate every True American’s soul. We are embedded with the Spirits of every other American who has fought for our Freedom. We live and breathe FREEDOM. God has blessed AMERICA and her inhabitants….where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Freedom. This is a Spiritual Battle for our hearts and minds. A British King, and Communism picked a fight with America and we won. The new communists/progressives/liberals and Islamists have also picked a fight with America. They will lose too! True American’s will Unite across the land, from every nationality, we will recognize eachother, and there are more of us, then there are of them….and they will lose again and again and again.Freedom has never been free for America, but she has WON it over and over. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P4IPMKSPZAEXEC6JXCWLX2OXIE Joe

    What planet is this woman from. “The word “tax” means nothing to the American people?  For her the multi millionaire, who will get most likely receive 100% health care paid for by who, us the taxpayers, so the elite congressional have receive theirs for Nada.  Taxes mean nothing to those Washington leeches, who prey on the tax payers hard earned income.  I do not know why people keep sending this non productive elitist back to Washington.  God Save the Republic

  • Anonymous

    “God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.”

    They (Ruling Elites) are NOT anything like Him, but they are ‘playing god’ with us.

  • Anonymous

    Ol’ Nan says: ”What means something to the American people is what it does for them.”

    In this case, Mrs. P., I think you may have meant to say: ”—is what it does TO them.”

    And the truth appears to be that what will be done TO them is an increase in their taxes.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly!!!..You know the world is upside down because Hussein-Osama oops Obama was carefully selected by the evil one-Hussein-Obama evil ones chosen one born1961! and what is 1961 upside down 1961!just as God chose Jesus to be the Savior of man-
    kind! Hussein-Obama the destroyer of manKIND!!

  • Anonymous

    yep! we have a thug-ocracy! as Glenn predicted four years ago! why else would the obama’s would come out of chicago….crime sindicate city!!

  • MarsBarsTru7

    And if you spell “dad” backwards it’s “dad” and upside-down it “pep”. Talk about subliminal messages! I’ve always thought that was suspicious!

  • Lioness

    Whether Pelosi is a lying snake in the grass, or just a completely ignorant useful idiot, who really would like to help all those poor folk. She is still a gross disturbance to the constitution that she swore to uphold. As a moral human being, she would have to admit that either she lied about it not being a tax, or admit that the darn thing is unconstitutional. She would not do either. She is such a pathetic, shameful coward. I am sickened by her and this whole deceitful administration.

  • Anonymous

    Haven’t we figured out that Nancy Pelosi is totally clueless as to reality? Her answers at news conferences make absolutely no sense to anyone but Nancy Pelosi. Yet she continues to be put out in front to run interference for the love of her life, herself and the power that she craves. Apparently her constituents continue to worship at the altar of Obama because they re-elected her. She is a national disgrace,

  • Anonymous

    Joe Wilson had it right all along:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgce06Yw2ro

  • Anonymous

    Did anyone understand what she said?  Did she answer the question with a direct answer or was she giving us all a lot of BS?   

  • Anonymous

     Yes, the law states that muslims are exempt because the feel it’s gambling and gambling is against their beliefs so yes, they get free healthcare and yes, we have to pay for it.  Does anyone see thru this….if you know what I mean!

  • Anonymous

     They sure are by the truck loads…
    They know what’s up!

  • Anonymous

    bampy,  first off, thank you for your service.  Secondly, is their a VA clinic near you

    and would you have transportation to it?   My husband is a vet from WWII and he was

    put in touch with our local VA clinic by the American Legion.  Contact them and I’ll bet

    they can give you some help.  Depending on your disability, you might qualify for free

    medicines and, perhaps, other services.  Good luck and God bless.

  • Anonymous

    Geo, they are called the ”takers.”

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget, w.i.t., the many exemptions that were given to various groups from having

    to comply with Obamacare, especially the unions.  And yes, we the taxpayers have the

    ”honor and privilege” of paying for health care for those in gov’t.

  • Anonymous

    Good post, slkgej. Well said.

  • Anonymous

    Giri, ALL will be paying for these taxes in one way or another.   Because of having to

    pay higher taxes to cover health care for employees, many businesses will merely 

    pass the cost along to consumers by way of higher prices on goods or services.

  • Anonymous

    I.L.R., I concur with your assessment of Chief Justice Roberts.

    He may have initially appeared to be a snake in the grass, but down

    the line it may turn out to be a more important ruling on the Constitu-

    tion than anyone realizes at this time.

  • Anonymous

    It doesn’t matter what it is called.
    The plan makes a significant step in helping Americans receive affordable medical care.
    Thank you President Obama.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Mustangdude86 Kyle Tobias

    Forgive me for my newbieness…but it’s the first time I’ve ever heard that woman speak….and it’s enough to make me want to sew her lips shut. This is so infuriating when you can’t get a straight answer from ANYone because they are covering something up. FIRE THEM ALLL!!!!

  • Anonymous

    The baby jesus and the 99%  love the way obama cares.  Why is the 1% so pissed off?

  • Anonymous

    She said “some people can’t take YES for an answer”  What did you miss?

  • Anonymous

    Which god are you refering too?

  • Anonymous

    I was in a little fea market shop yesterday Matewan, WV. Hatfield and McCloy community and a man came in and asked the shop owner if he would like to buy the contents of his house, that he and his wife were renting. He had a business in town and has lost business, due to the lay off of 750 people, that lost their Jobs, in the mine closing, due to the new EPA regulations. The man who owned the shop offered him $350, but he wanted to look at the items first. The man who was selling his items, had a washer, dryer, refrigerator, tv, furniture and personal items. The couple and his family are planning on moving into, their car, and have plans to travel back to OK to live with family, until they can get back on their feet. The heat index was 104, yesterday and the area has been in drout, for 2 weeks. I was also told that the military base in Fayetteville, NC, Fort Bragg, will be splitting it’s division’s and relocating families to, CO and Germany. Humm I wonder where, Germany got the money to bail out Greece and Spain, yesterday? This administration is giving the American people the shaft. Come to Matewan and see for yourself. The only place these people can walk to is Dollar General to do their shopping in Matewan, unless they walk to KY.

  • Anonymous

    I just have to add, Matewan has 2 Government Health Care Clinics, the patients line up on the side walk, an hour before the Doctors arrive, they are in town 2 times weekly and are of Middle East descent and may I add, drive the most expensive cars, that have never been seen, anywhere? I hope Castro is enjoying our Medicade money, because Castro is bragging about it.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll have my freedom but forget yours. That’s how I feel too Draxx! 

  • landofaahs

    So true.

  • landofaahs

    Look under the casey research free publications article “ Eurocrash baked in the cake” It explains options to our current situation. Disqus Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 5:05 PM
    To: dll1957@live.com
    Subject: [glennbeck] Re: Obamacare: Is it a tax or not?

    jude wrote, in response to landofaahs:

    Also why the really really rich are leaving the USA until this madness under this administration is over, they are not fools.
    Link to comment

  • landofaahs

    It’s why obumbass the muslim is trying to destroy them.

  • landofaahs

    You’re right and it doesn’t stop there. They will also off all of their enemies. These liberals on both sides are evil. We need to separate and if they insist, we defend ourselves with the 2nd amendment.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YF6BFNDA5AF2LS5NBUOWFKNQFM Sharon

    Well well, he just put a huge $$$ increase in the Insurance Companies pockets! What will become of a single person who only makes $20,000. a year? That is certainly too much income to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to buy health insurance. What about the unemployed? This is such a huge offensive action! It just makes me sick!

  • Anonymous

    It’s called an abortion, just what idiots like you favor the most. If your mama had been a true believer like you, we wouldn’t be putting up with your ignorant stupidity now. Too bad.

    You aren’t smart enough to realize that is is a Cobra program for everyone, and Cobra is completely unaffordable to the all of people.

    You are so stupid you don’t even know when you are stupid, so I’ll give you a hint; when you are awake, you are stupid. Get it now, Stupid?

  • landofaahs

    I know several people in their 50′s who used to look down on welfare recipients and are now on social security disability and  they are perfectly capable of work but years of pot smoking has made them so lazy that the only thing they can muster up is a stupid comment like “why aren’t you retired yet?” That’s true.  I actually was asked that.  I just replied with a straight face, “I have too many mirrors in my house and so I have to keep working”.  She looked at me with a miffed and questioning face.  Yep.  It flew right over the head.  The day of reckoning is a comin’ tho.  

  • Anonymous

    Glenn:

    Nancy said at the end of her statement: “…what it does TO them”, not for them as you wrote in the text above.  I think the difference is critical and noteworthy. 

  • Anonymous

    “Caring” through lies and fin, er taxes is not caring and most certainly not of Christ.

  • Anonymous

    This is why I think he is moving towards a single payer system. There are triggers in place. It states that if healthcare is not provided to all the people then it must resort to the single payer system. So I believe he knew that opting out would provide the cause to move in to the next step. This is what he has always wanted.

    The thing I am concerned about is that Romney had a similar plan. If we vote for him, how can we be assured that he will repeal this law? Even if he could, he seems to be quite a task. I will vote for him regardless. At this point there is not other way to go.

  • Anonymous

    We know, your overworked, underpaid, no health insurance, and your CEO makes 4,000 times your salary.  And you think you’re part of the 1%.  You need to get a grip.  The baby jesus and the 99% love affordable healtcare.  And you?

  • Anonymous

    They’ll have healthcare.  They won’t be considered second class citizens anymore

  • landofaahs

    Healthcare will be affordable when everyone pays for their own. Govt. has been paying more and more for 50 years and it is skyrocketing. You would think dummies like you wopuld get the clue but you don’t. PS Baby J told me a certain cleaning business is going down the tubes.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone will be paying that’s what a mandate is.  How are you getting your healthcare,now?

  • landofaahs

    I am the CEO you tard. I have assets I am moving far far away that not even a corrupt govt. can get to. I am going to become an economic traveler. Ever heard of La Estancia de Cafayete? No you dingaling, you’re too libtard. LOL Wait until the collapse and your worthless ass is starving in t he streets. But we’ll think of you in our many getaways.;)

  • landofaahs

    That is my business…not yours. I keep my business to myself so that when I need to move out, I can. I will not be a victim to thieving entitlement punks. Now quit bothering me as I am doing research to make more money. Life is good little libtard, when you earn it.

  • landofaahs

    By the way. Will illegals who come here and get treated who have no money be paying? How about the welfare recipients, are they going to be forced to work and forced to pay the premiums? IIf not then you and your statements are a lie. Liar.

  • Anonymous

    I am reminded by this quote: 
    Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is portrayed at the very end of the 1970 film Tora! Tora! Tora!, and in the 2001 film Pearl Harbor, as saying after his attack on Pearl Harbor, “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”[1] The supposed quotation was abbreviated in the film Pearl Harbor (2001), where it merely read, “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant.”
    I also believe that God is telling America through his people to Wake Up! or you will lose your country.

  • landofaahs

    I just received an email from a friend and I had to stop my research to share it.  It’s a youtube Nolan’s cheese commercial with the mouse.  Watch it to the very end and this is the attitude we need to slap these libtards the H out of this country.  lets get a slap their as- attitude.  Lets grind these ba—– into the ground.

  • Anonymous

    Why can’t you answer a question? What are you hiding?  How are you getting health care now?  I’m willing to bet that obamacare benefits you and your to ashamed to admit it.  Am I right/

  • landofaahs

    Me can but me won’t. That makes you angry don;t it. I love it. I can see in my mind that you are a snarly little primate. LOL Me got money.
    You know the best thing about being an aging rich dude? It’s when you attract beautiful women like mad and they fawn all over you. It does inflate your ego. All of that and I can remain faithful to the beautiful one I have. How can you beat that? You can’t and it pisses you off. Life is great, and I mean great. So I get the last laugh you jealous little brat.

  • Anonymous

    I think I found a solution, annex Mexico, Annex Haita, Kenya, And every slum counrtry that we can think of, bring them in and make them all america’s finist. Tax the living hell out of everyone that has a job trying to make a living, And the government will take care of all these people. their stuff will be free of course, because we owe them that, the government owns the banks, they own the auto makers, they will now be in charge of what you get in the way of medicine, so lets finish they job, they now tell us what we can eat, why don’t we let the government run the farming industry, i can’t wait to drive by a collective farm and see all those happy farmers, damn that’s going to be great. i remember during the war we had rationing stamps.I think we should bring them back. that way every one gets the same, GOSH I can hardly wait, everyone the same, why didn’t we do this sooner?

  • greywolfrs

    Are you still posting this stupidity? You really are one dumb M F er. Any relation to sticky chin?

  • greywolfrs

    No, actually, it does not. You are an idiot, sticky chin.

  • greywolfrs

    You could not be more wrong, again. This bill does NOTHING to control cost, it only controls the insurance industry. You left wingers are beyond short sighted. Hey stupid, when everyone pays in and there are not enough doctors to go around, what do you think will happen? The cost of EVERYTHING will shoot through the roof. When that happens, the cap on how much insurance costs will not be enough. In the end, it will put insursnce companies out of business, then what? The Feds will over step bounds, again, and have to fixx that crisis. You are one dumb, short sighted moron.

  • greywolfrs

    And anyone expected a straight anwer from the moron who said “we have to pass it, to see what’s in it?”

  • landofaahs

    Hey vac, why won’t you answer my assertion of your lies? Will illegal people be forced to pay a penalty if they go to the hospital but don’t have insurance? How about welfare punks, will they be forced back to work and forced to pay out of pocket for their own care before they buy anything else? No they won’t. I’ll answer the question since you won’t. That proves your statement to be a lie. SEIU will be exempt from the a lot of the provisions of this deathcear legislation too.
    But guess what vac, people will find ways around it by firing more people to get below the mandate or putting all people under part time status or just moving operations overseas. The poor annd middle class will be the loser’s as they are in all the govt. ponzi schemes. Too bad like you they are too stupid to see it. But life is great for some of us. I am very blessed by Jesus.

  • Anonymous

    Realize, w.i.t., that Romney’s plan was just for one state (and he did

    not have a fight in passing it, did he?) and Obamacare encompasses

    the entire nation.   60% of disapproval of this plan is the number that

    is being used, so, IF he is elected along with a Rep. Senate and they

    also keep their hold on the House, they can repeal AHA.  But they had

    better have something good to replace it.  Some have said that the

    parts of the plan now in use (health ins. for dependents under 26, care

    for those with existing health problems etc.) should be continued.  We

    will have to see what happens in ’13 regardless of who is in office.

    Romney was not my choice either but if he has a chance in Hades to

    rid us of Obamanation, I say: Go for it!   

    P.S. I do hope Mitt has a good and effective campaign that will help

    to change the minds of many who now support B.O.   One thing he can

    do is to use B.O.’s own words against him—-he said ”this”, but he did

    ”this” and took ”that action.”   And show the video clips to prove it.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. The only way is to use his words against him. (There are many videos to choose from.) The media is set to make Romney look out of touch. But the ads with Obama’s words are very effective and people cannot deny it.There will always be those people who no matter what will still vote for Obama. I had one person tell me she was going to vote for him because at least she knew how bad he was and she didn’t know about Romney. It is bizarre. I just don’t get it.

  • Anonymous

    There’s been a lot of that going on with the Dems for

    sometime.  I remember someone saying re: the ’96

    reelection bid for B. Clinton—why he/she would want to

    vote for Bill again.  The answer: Well, I’d rather vote for

    the devil I know instead of the one I don’t know.

    Sheer folly and utter craziness!  So, you vote for the

    person you KNOW (who appears not to have the best 

    interest of the nation in mind and has shown it)  instead  

    of the one who MAY be able to halt the madness!

    Why did we get B.O. in the first place?   He was less

    known than McCain.   I guess logic doesn’t enter into it

    when the LSM is on the side of the one they want.  And

    propaganda/lack of information goes a long way.

  • Sandie

     Those that can’t pass the cost will go overseas where it is cheaper, or will dump insurance coverage because it will be  too expensive and let employees go. More unemployment, and weaker buniness presence. Great way to screw up an economy.

  • Guest

     Yes, as in Yes you are now screwed.

  • Sandie

     How uncanny that these lyrics fit to the tune of Hotel California.

  • Anonymous

    I hear you. OB got in because they hated Bush so much. The media highlighted and encouraged the hatred. It worked. But the people also were attracted to a good looking man who promised them change. They were fooled by his rock star personality. Let’s hope that they will wake up this time. Peace!

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Save America, Vote Conservative. 

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    You’ll have to pay $1500 a year to pay for some other guys Insurance.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    So you think that the unemployed are second class citizens.  Interesting.

  • landofaahs

    I intend to vote for Romney even though I don’t think he is a conservative. Roiberts is the one that really made me despise DC. Corruption is rampant. Roberts I guess figures if the congress voted to kill us conservatives, he would have to go along with it on the basis of “Votes have consequenses”. He is saying 51% can do anything and there is no natural rights as in a republic. The last place to protect the rights of the minority were flushed down the toilet with this evil sob. No ill can come to him that is not deserved. He lied when he took his oath on the Bible and I believe God will hold him to account.

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Well, you can vote for Romney and to keep him on track by voting Conservative for House and Senate candidates.

    Even if Romney doesn’t win because of Liberal Election day corruption, having control of Congress will neuter the little man (Obama).

    Save America, vote Conservative or ABO (anyone but Obama). Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

    I know where you stand landofaahs , I’ve been reading your stuff for quite some time now. LOL

  • Anonymous

    I never said the unemployed are second class citizens.  You did!  Why would you make an asumption like that?  Interesting.  You conservatices make shit up, and then you believe it.  Why is that?

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    Sure you did. I never did. Show me where I said it. I pay for 99 weeks of their living expenses through my taxes and an additional unlimited amount in social services and food stamps.

    Your words vacuum man “They won’t be considered second class citizens anymore” I didn’t make anything up, why are you lying about what you posted? Why is that??

  • Anonymous

    Sandie, I agree.   IF B.O. is reelected (please, God, no!) he will have

    another 4 years to work on his master plan of driving the US into the

    ground and creating an European-style nation.  Socialism appears to

    have worked out very well for Greece. Sure.  Spain and Italy love it too.

    Wonder when all here are on welfare if the EU will bail us out?

  • http://www.Liberals-Suck.com/ SoThere

    “the baby jesus”  LMAO.  Ha ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha Ha Ha

  • Sandie

    No way would they bail us out.. Now that they have screwed themselves up royally with socialism, they will want the US to bail them out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Maria-Rivera/100004028374021 Maria Rivera

    What I find amusing is that people have no problem with the government having access (real time ) to their bank accounts.  That Obama has now hired government agents who will make sure that American born, hard working Americans will pay a tax if they cannot afford it while illegals who send in fake tax returns or illegal tax returns which claim illegal dependents get BILLIONS…..No, we are not going after the prisoners who file illegally…
    Small businesses which are barely hanging on will now have to LAY PEOPLE OFF in order to cover insurance. Really, do the math- if I had 6 employees and I have to pay for insurance- sorry- 2 have to go
    I believe in being a good American and paying taxes…however, in 2014…I will close my bank account and I will cash all payroll checks through Walmart if Obama is reelected.  I will have to pay household bills and taxes via money order or a cash card…While I am not worth that much money- I believe in privacy.
    As for who this hits…it is middle class America again- we will be paying for this and I am hanging on as well as my husband every paycheck to make sure that we do not slump to middle lower class…which we are doing slowly due to food costs and gas costs (gas is not a bargain)- How 1984 to make us even think that 5 cents makes a difference…when a Pint of Ben and Jerry’s costs 5.50 in the store and milk is over 3 dollars…
    I have no second thoughts that the leader of Egypt called the president and gave him a high five-
    I do want to go back to my former point…what about the families who are lower middle class and who cannot afford insurance for the working adults in the family?  Are we really going to give the government an extra 600 (for 2 adults) or 1% of salary…well…we would have no way to pay for that in our family…so did idiot Pelosi think that the interest rate for the government is what 6% for these families?  No, probably with interest, etc… it is much higher…so the government gets to tax people then gets to charge them on top…If they cannot pay, they can seize their paychecks, accounts….well…hell…the average American only has about 700 in its bank account…
    There are 25 million Americans who are unemployed right now and the lying media won’t give us the numbers of those who are underemployed..Now, we can add to more misery and poverty

    There are now more people who are at the poverty level who are living in the suburbs than there are in the cities
    More middle class Americans , DESPITE WHAT THE LYING MEDIA SAYS are losing their homes…
    Ridiculous…

  • new2la

    Just imagine how much money we would save by them paying for their own HC.

  • Anonymous

    10-4. and that goes for barry and holder. I was just looking through the huffington post opinion page. it is full of Romney, Republican hating liberal idiots. spewing there nonsense. they honestly believe barry is doing a good job and should be “landslide–able re-elected”. how stinkin’ clueless do you have to be to think that?

  • Anonymous

    ahhh….but my fav is…..and I would ask my kids from time to time, esp. my youngest….So, what is MOM spelled upside down??????   WOW.  Heheheheh……

  • Anonymous

    You goofed the transcript. You missed the single most ominous thing Pelosi said. She said: “…What means something to the American people is what it does TO them.” The transcript reads “…what it does for them.” The bill is evil and it must be repealed/defunded immediately.

  • Anonymous

    Once again as a member of the middle class I shall bend over and grab my ankles. I just love listening to these clowns tell me that they are looking out for me as they constantly open my wallet and take more, more, more!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1230795779 Debi Hilley

    I have a serious thought on this. It was deemed a tax by SCOTUS but was not voted on as a tax, and is now being called “NOT a tax”…so IF its a tax but not voted on, does that mean it needs to be ratified as such? A new vote? Or does it mean that since they still say it is not a tax that the legislation AS WRITTEN with it NOT being a tax is not constitutional. I mean, I thought all taxes had to be voted on to implement them….ad I thought that Roberts said it was valid AS a tax but not as a penalty. 

  • Anonymous

    The Supreme Court ruling didn’t say that Obamacare is legal IF IT IS A TAX, it said that it is legal BECAUSE IT IS A TAX.  Obama and his Administration say that IT IS NOT A TAX.  Isn’t that the same as saying that it is NOT LEGAL?  The House of Representatives should pass a bill confirming the illegality of Obamacare, pursuant to the Administration’s contention that it is not a tax.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IUJMMPR2KIXYRNO44YE33PEMIM Scott

    Where can I find out specific details re: the 22 new taxes?

  • greywolfrs

    In the over 2000 pages of the Obamaocare.

  • greywolfrs

    I hear what you are saying, but if Hairy Balls decides not to bring it to a vote in the Senate, it wouldn’t matter.

  • Anonymous

    Affordable Care Act
    Decision? By Bob Westphal

    Before we discuss this subject we need to go back to the
    Constitution and review the roles of the three branches of American government.
    The legislature drafts laws. The courts determine the legality. The executive
    administers the laws. In my opinion there appears to be collusion between all
    branches of government in relation to this Act. The President and his co-hearts
    made up an extremely complex law containing thousands of pages. Then he pressured
    the Congress and the Senate into very hurriedly passing this act without even
    knowing what it entailed. My questions are why didn’t Congress write the law so
    they would know what’s it contains? Aren’t they the ones that draft laws? What has
    the President to do with this law? Isn’t he the one who administers the law and
    doesn’t have a hand in drafting it?

     The law has been challenged
    in the Supreme Court of the Land by 26 states as to its Constitutionality. The
    premise of the case brought before the Supreme Court was, can the government
    force someone to buy something and forcing them to do so by threat of a penalty
    which is a violation of the Interstate Commerce laws. Sounds pretty simple
    doesn’t it? Well it didn’t work out that way!

    Justice Robert’s statement reads:

    “The Affordable Care Act’s requirement that
    certain individuals pay a financial penalty for not obtaining health insurance may reasonably be characterized as a tax,”
    ….   “Because the Constitution permits such a tax, it is not our role to forbid it, or to pass upon its wisdom or fairness.”
     

    What he said is that the penalty classifies as a
    tax and not a penalty but the Court doesn’t come right out and declare the penalty is
    a tax. He says it classifies as a
    tax. In the event that the Court is saying the penalty is a tax without
    actually saying it. Then the Court has just rewritten the Act by inserting the
    word tax in place of the word penalty. Justice Roberts has gone off point.
    The point being “Interstate Commerce” not “taxes.” If the Plaintiffs accept
    this so-called ruling, the Court has just written a LAW! That is not allowed
    under the Constitution. The Court doesn’t write laws!

    The next phrase states that the court can’t forbid
    a tax and that the court’s role is not to determine its wisdom or fairness. What
    is the Court saying here? Are they saying they can’t determine if the tax is wise and fair? What about the penalty is it wise and fair? The Court
    didn’t address the “penalty” in this statement.
    This is obviously ‘double speak’ for “We didn’t really make a decision.” The only thing determined in this ruling
    is that the penalty qualifies as a tax and nothing else!

     This so-called ruling appears
    to be a demure and not a decision!

    The Court is not done with case by any means. This
    whole thing has been left hanging in limbo! The Plaintiffs should petition the
    Court for a clarification of the ruling and possibly file a new litigation
    against the defendants. The defendant is actually back to square one. The Act
    needs to be rewritten clarifying the penalty as a tax.

  • greywolfrs

    I hear what you are saying, but that would never happen. They are NOT going to go back and rewrite it because they know it wouldn’t pass. Obamao didn’t want the language to say “tax,” so he could try and maintain that he has not raised taxes. Now, any person with half a brain knows this is a tax and it will hit the middle and low class the hardest. Here’s the funny part, those are the same people who voted for this idiot and are going to do it again. They actually think they were given something. I guess this is indicative of just how dumbed down this country’s lower classes have become.

  • Anonymous

    You didn’t read carefully. The Court doesn’t come right out and declare the penalty is a tax. The Court cannot re-write the Act by removing the word penalty and replace it with tax. This is what people seem to think the Court did. They didn’t do this. They said the penalty looks like a tax to them. The Court said nothing else

  • greywolfrs

    I understand that, but if it is a “tax,” one would think Congress would need to vote again. It was not billed as a tax, but as a penalty. If the court rules it as a tax, that changes the whole ball game. The verbage makes a difference. The court is saying, (Roberts in particular) that it is a tax. If that is the case, then the whole premise of the bill would seem to be invalid, since Congress voted on a penalty, not a tax. The question becomes, who in Congress will have the balls to do something?

  • http://goo.gl/SUQxK Right Fielder

    Punitive Tax.

  • http://goo.gl/SUQxK Right Fielder

    I posted links to the information available at the House Ways and Means Committee site, but the post was held for mod approval. I guess the links triggered the hold. Maybe they’ll release it, if not, go to the HWM site.

  • Anonymous

    Changing, cloaking or “being creative with” the definition and intent of words undermines The Constitution which is constructed of words.

    If we can’t rely on the definitions of words then every law, ruling, trial, jury decision, contract (verbal or written) will be, ultimately, meaningless.

  • Anonymous

    The Supreme Court, with its infinite wisdom, has ruled that Obamacare is a tax.  If it is not a tax, it is unconstitutional.    Obama, Pelosi and Reid insist that it is not a tax.  Why don”t the Republicans take them at their word (they do, with everything else) and agree that it is unconstitutional?  Why doesn’t the House pass a bill recognizing Obamacare as not being a tax, and therefore, unconstitutional?

  • Anonymous

    I should have worded it slightly different, “Potentially illegal aliens”, it was wrong of me to make such a General Categorization of any kind of people of different nationalities…

    I was not instructed by anyone to make the change, because there Are Many Aliens Here Legally and have gone through Proper Channels.  I would like to apologize, and Thank-You for doing things the Right way!  Often taking the Right Path in Life, means Struggles and Conflicts with Other People.  It’s Not Because We Want It That Way, I think it is a part of Human Nature to a point.  Many People come here and Work Hard, Study Hard, and Learn how to Adapt to a Different Culture; Many benefit someone in the United States and Many benefit someone from their Home Culture/Community.  I know from talking with some legal immigrants from different countries, that they Adore & Respect the “Freedom” and “Opportunities” here in the U.S. (and they wonder why so many Americans squander their freedoms and give them up so easily).

    And a Note to the illegals… “I was BORN HERE, why should you have more Liberties and Freebies Than Us Hard Working Citizens That Pay For It???” 

  • http://www.PoemsAndReflectionsConstantineIvanov.com Constantine Ivanov

    I am against raising taxes….except for those who support the Disaster-in-Chief and all his so-called “free”stuff.

    I would suggest to start from these activists:
    Obama supporters in Hollywood who in May 2011 to May 2012 “made” the following:

    Kristen Stewart – $34.5MLN
    Cameron Diaz – $34MLN
    Sandra Bullock – $25MLN
    Angelina Jolie – $20MLN
    Sarah Jessica Parker – $15MLN 
    (in 2011 – $30MLN)
    Charlize Theron – $18MLN
    Julia Roberts – $16MLNJ
    Kristen Wiig – $12MLN
    Meryl Streep – $12MLN
    Jennifer Aniston – $11MLN 
    (in 2010-2011 – $28MLN, 
    Reese Witherspoon also $28MLN)

  • w. Parker

    Who says muslims don’t eat dogs? Obama’s Favorite Foods:

    Obama’s Favorite Breakfast: Eggs Rover Easy
    Obama’s Favorite Soup: Chicken Poodle
     Obama’s Favorite Burger: Quarter Pounder with Fleas

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7AGF6T566ICD7BGIKBT4C7E2XQ Ellen

    1.  Because Obama Care is a tax – shouldn’t it have to go back through the Ways and Means committee and be revoted on in congress?  That is the process – and if the Senate is changed in this election (50+1) – it could be voted down.
    2.  We need to start talking true numbers – percentage of paychecks – what people will be paying – and how many people it is really saving – are we all going down the tubes for th 1%?
    3.  Rally small businesses, contractors, consultants etc … on how it will negatively affect their bottom line – in real numbers.  For many mom and pop organizations this “care” will totally put them under and then they can become a ward of the government.  A leash that will drag on every politician every election … until there are no more elections.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Deb-Cee/1680161824 Deb Cee

    Uhhhh how stoopit does they thinks we is ?   One thing iz fer shure….I know how to pusha “vote” buton…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Deb-Cee/1680161824 Deb Cee

    ever see the show where the plot is too obvious ?  It’s too obvious for a reason…

  • Anonymous

    The argument has been presented that we all have to have car insurance, so health insurance is the same.

    Really?

    Car insurance is if I want to drive, I have a car, and the insurance guarantees the OTHER fellow is protected if I hit him, and vice versa.

    Health insurance, now, is a penalty/tax just for breathing.  You don’t want to pay it? Go to the doctor, and the Death Panel will declare you superfluous, and tell you to go home and die. (Meanwhile, keep paying the penalty/tax for continuing to breathe.)  Punished with a baby? Ask the doctor for an after-birth abortion, to throw it in a closet and all is well for you now, for more free/penalty/tax contraceptives that didn’t work the first time.

    Ah! Isn’t life fine now, with the free/penalty/tax supporting our every breath!!!

  • Anonymous

    You hit the nail on the head! Will that happen? Not if the people don’t realize that the ruling wasn’t a ruling and demand the Act to be negated and rewritten.

  • Anonymous

    No the 1% can afford health insurance quite easily…

    The baby Jesus is quite capable of healing himself.

  • greywolfrs

    Well, one of the problems I see is the Senate being controlled by Democraps. They will not allow that to happen. Obamao must truly be worried about the next election, because even if he does win, he very likely will lose the Senate. That would spell doom for this bill. I hear what you are saying, but I think the politicians in Washington have proven that they are not listening to the people, so I doubt that will happen either. It seems they are only listening to votes. Once they get those, they go about doing whatever they feel.

  • Anonymous

    So – how do I make out my taxes?

  • Anonymous

    I decided the read up on the penalty/tax. Why has no one raised the point that not only will this be applied to the middle class but also to workers under the age of 18? So now, not only will they be taxing people if they cannot afford health care, but if a teen gets a job and doesn’t have health care either through the job or a parent, they will be hit with this penalty tax too. Does this mean a kid getting a paper route will be taxed with this penalty? What about the teen getting a first job at a fast food restaurant? ARE THEY SERIOUS. This is totally appalling. How discouraging will this be to teens that we WANT to learn the value of work? As it is right now,  the teen unemployment rate is at 24.4%

  • Anonymous

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6XT752VPJ4E6FVMVHIYN6KL6KY Elwin

    Is changing terminalogy “lables” fraudlent???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6XT752VPJ4E6FVMVHIYN6KL6KY Elwin

    Is it not the job of the supreme court to protect the poeple who did not vote in favor of a political action with the Constution as the balance? If not what is to prevent successively conservative administrations alternating liberal administrations from thrashing those who opposed them?

  • Anonymous

    My taxes pay for the war, bombs and countless other things I don’t agree with.  Affordable healthcare is something I am happy to see my tax dollars go towards.

  • Anonymous

    So if someone can’t afford to have healthcare and they get sick, we should what? let them die?  let their families go bankrupt selling their home?

    We as a people and nation must protect, hard-working american, the elderly who pay taxes all their lives and the innocent that can’t fend for themselves.

    Or as a nation do we say “Not my responsbility to pay for your cancer treatment or your cataract surgery or Leukemia”.

    Universal Healthcare isn’t a new idea and it wasn’t started by Obama, he was just the first to see it through.

    Check out this article called the unpopular mandate.
    http://nyr.kr/LO1xmI

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YWSQO3EDGPTT7LRTEJVQ5MY6BE Ross

    Glenn, Is Obamacare or is not Obamacare another way of reaching a pact with the American people on a National ID System? Let’s keep arguing whether it’s a legit tax, and let’s argue some more about the constitutionality of it. Let’s also discuss, in depth, what IT IS.  And, what it will mean beyond the obvious kick in the teeth. Thank you and I’ll look for your responce.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YWSQO3EDGPTT7LRTEJVQ5MY6BE Ross

    After the win, they’ll have a change of direction, I assure you. No country willingly accepts an open border policy; they want head counts, they want all persons accounted for. They want all people to pay taxes. Rome had that idea. That’s not the crime however; the crime is their motives for knowing everything about every single one of us.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YWSQO3EDGPTT7LRTEJVQ5MY6BE Ross

    The Flat Tax was a great idea. If everyone participated, and you really couldn’t avoid it generally, I would think we’d all end up paying less taxes overall; but the gov would make upwards of twice as much as they had been. Why didn’t we go that route? It doesn’t allow for the gov to retain any new information on us. In fact, the gov would lose information on us citizens. The name of the game is wrangle everyone in; on something, anything. Obamacare is that plan coming into fruition.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001849874103 Jamie Newman

    Personally I think we should bring uninsured into the existing medicare system. let them buy in. The poor get medicaid so open up that program for a wider group. We need tax reform. I think the FairTax is the best option we have so that everyone pays taxes. Everyone, including illegals, tourists etc. The poor get a prebate so they won’t be unfairly burdened. The only thing we should never tax is food and medicine.

  • http://profiles.google.com/dietschenator Diane Dietsch

    Its both a tax AND a breath mint!  (dating myself with that ad reference!)

  • Anonymous

    Who cares – just get rid of the stupid thing.

  • Anonymous

    why is it that “every” time Obama or Pelosi talks about the new healthcare laws they both say the same thing and it goes like this, “ladies & gentleman this new law ensures that EVERY  Amercian will have to carry health care”.  Hummm …and then I say wow both Pelosi & Obama suddenly seem ok with using the word American but only when they tallk abouth this new coverage hummm.. because usually both and all politaicians now run away from EVER limiting something to only the Americans.   So I ask why is it that every American must carry coverage is it so that Illegals and yes I said Illegals will still be able to walk into a hospital and get American health care for free????  Do Illiegal Imigrants have to purchase healthcare too?? If not then I guess they still get a free ride??  And yes i said they..I’m not playing PC games.
    he word they is in the English vocb..so deal with it..thank you. 

    So I get it this new law ensres that “every” American must purchase healthj care to help subsidize all the fre health acre for Non Americans aka Illegal Immigrants.

    And why isnt any other Politician asking that question publicly??  Like out loud? 
    Thank you all for giving me qan opportunity to express my opinion and ask my question?
     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VRD7D6W7GRLACKH6EIKPU2DP3U ce ces

     Maria:

    An the average Older couple are no better off. We are not Social Security age- some older workers had the option to take early retirement after getting laid off. We  live on $1700  pension per month- my insurance is $500 a month(husbands is paid for by his former employer).  We have a mortgage that takes up the rest of the pension and are right now living on savings for food-taxes,light,car- etc.

    Where are they going to tax us more- there is nothing left. We plan to sell our home some day but maybe the bank will get it or the school district whom raising taxes here so high that we can’t see how it is humanly possible to tax an area so poor so high! Our Real Estate taxes are $6000 a year on a $145,000 dollar house!  Homes are not selling- there are several up the street that has been on the market going now on 4 years! One home came down $130,000 dollars less and still no offers.

    This whole health care situation has been burning up.  We pay for our insurance- I have never taken from the system- never- I pay my bills and what makes me angry is those that are getting all of that for FREE!  I just found out that my local hospital has been checking our credit via a company called Search America(Experian) and we are all given Medical FICO scores to see how we will pay our bill!  Can you believe this- I did not even know about it or that such a thing was legal until I started to look it up online.

    So people who pay their medical insurance- always pay their medical co pays after insurance are now being scrutinized before they get service at a Hospital!