Obama advisor continues to spread Romney lies in front of impotent media

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The White House has pulled out all the stops in their efforts to defeat Mitt Romney. They’ve used some odd fundraising tactics, like asking people to donate to the campaign in lieu of wedding gifts, and now they are running campaign ads with blatant lies in them. The lies are so bad that they’ve been debunked by multiple sources like factcheck.org and PolitiFact. But when Obama advisor Robert Gibbs was grilled on the ads, he double downed on the lies.

Mediaite reported, “On CNN’s State of the Union today, Candy Crowley grilled Obama campaign advisor and former White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs on a recent attack ad released hitting Mitt Romney for outsourcing. Crowley ran the ad, pointing out that The Washington Post rated it false (“four Pinocchios”), and challenged Gibbs to explain why this is still being used as a line of attack against Romney.”

Watch:

In the video, Crowley asked Gibbs, “…There’s no evidence here that any of the fact check organizations have found that, A, he outsourced jobs or was president of Bain when that happened and, B, that he’s done anything illegal. You’ve had a lot of advice from folks, Democrats saying get off of this particular Bain thing. There’s obviously some polling that shows, in fact, there’s ‑‑ it’s having some effect on some of the battleground states. But why keep on it?”

Gibbs responded to the questioning by asking why Romney hasn’t released tax forms for the past few years and wondered why he kept money in Swiss bank accounts. However, when Crowley asked if he was implying that Romney had done anything illegal he could only respond “Nobody knows”.

Glenn said there were a few key things to take away from this confrontation.

First, Crowley said that these attacks on Romney/Bain are hurting the candidate in some swing states. However, the attacks are all lies, showing the administration doesn’t care about the truth but rather only care about what people will assume is truth in swing states.

“The polling numbers are showing that this attack on Romney is working in some swing states. That’s all they care about: Some swing states. This is not a president who is the president of the United States. He is the president of some swing states. He is a president of coalitions,” Glenn said.

“This is not the uniter we were promised. This is the divider we all feared,” he added.

Second, the administration doesn’t care if these attacks are based in truth or not. Even liberal organizations and media are pointing out the lies.

“You’ll notice they don’t care. How many times does this have to be pointed out? Factcheck.org is a liberal organization. It’s not a conservative organization. It’s a liberal organization. Same thing with the Washington Post. Washington Post is not a conservative newspaper. It is a liberal newspaper,” Glenn said.

“(The White House) know that the Washington Post only matters to the liberal elite, only matters to the media elite, but the media doesn’t matter to the American people anymore. Only the stuff that punches through – if you say a lie loud enough and long enough, people start to believe it,” Glenn said. “Most Americans don’t want to hear that their president is a liar. Most Americans don’t want to hear that their president possibly is on the wrong side. Most Americans don’t want to hear that their president is a Marxist. So they will avoid those things at all costs.”

“The reason why they don’t want to hear this is because we as Americans tend to see ourselves in others. We tend to see the highest possibility. We still respect the president of the United States. Even if we disagree with him, we still respect that office,” Glenn continued. “We don’t think that other people are actually trying to destroy us. We don’t think people are capable of that. And so we don’t want to hear that our president is a liar because we don’t think our president could be a liar. Even though we’ve all had proof president after president after president that they are just like us: They do lie.”

Glenn said that its that belief in the inherent goodness of others and trust in the office of the President that allows people like Gibbs to blatantly lie to the American people.

“They know that the Washington Post doesn’t matter. hey know that Candy Crowley, she’s nothing. They know that she has no credibility compared to the office of the president of the United States. They have no credibility. They know that NBC doesn’t have any credibility. They know how you feel about the press. All they’re doing is confirming it.”

“(The media) have gotten so deeply in bed, they discredited themselves over and over and over again and he’s been there helping them, rewarding them, warning them that if they don’t discredit themselves, in so many words, warning them that if they don’t play ball, they’ll be done, too. And all the while we’ve been ringing the bell.”

“If the Washington Post would have had real journalists in there, if the Washington Post would have put Woodward and Bernstein in a year ago, year and a half ago to explain and to expose what this government was doing on both sides of the aisle, the Washington Post would make a difference today. If they were angry or not, it wouldn’t matter. But it doesn’t anymore. Gone are the days of Woodward and Bernstein. And they did it to themselves.”

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Amazing how people still can delude themselves into believing Obama and his administration are actually “doing good for the nation,” while systematically transforming and destroying it one portion and position at a time.

    Truly Obama’s base is a number of frogs in the pot of water that is slowly being heated to a boil and they will not pay attention to the matter.

    The administration uses the usual methods of denial, blame, spin to conver their own tails and claim the ‘moral high ground,’ while using character assassiation, libelous slander and outright lies and talecrafting to try and convince people that their words about their targets are the truth.

    Tell a lie long enough and loud enough, and finally many will accept it as the established truth; thus showing that, to borrow a phrase from Star Wars, a lie is a truth as seen “…from a certain point of view.”

    Which is uttermost hogwash: TRUTH IS TRUTH.

    Truth stands on its own merits and carries no agenda; it just is.

  • Anonymous

    I think you should perhaps rephrase the heading to “Obama advisor continues to spread lies about Romney” instead of its current form. Your heading makes it look like Romney is the one lying instead of being lied about.

  • Anonymous

    True is tax dodging, is nothing illegal he is doing what the super-rich and corporations have been doing for years.  Its us hard working folks that don’t have the same luxury.  As for the lies I doubt actually Romney knows the truth, since he has flip flopped on just about every issue he has ever stood for.  Conservatives are so blinded by this, there focused so much on getting Obama out with out thinking about how bad a President this guy will.  Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.  As for the Republican, Romney? really.  No one better, get someone with a backbone and free independent thinking, not a flip flopping, snake oil salesman.

  • Anonymous

    Obama wants us to worry about what Gov. Romney does with his own money and, at the same time, ignore how Obama is spending ours??  Forget that crap, I’m voting for Romney!

  • Anonymous

    Talking about the liberal left spreading disinformation and lies, we had a float in our Huntsville Utah 4th of July parade, which i might add our family has been a part of for 40 years. We entered a limo with a sign that read “Huntsville welcomes the Obama Farewell Tour?”, we had young men and myself dressed as secret service and another young man dressed as President Obama, (he wore a mask too). We referenced many things that are in the news such as the election, the secret service scandal, and the Fast and Furious / Eric Holder” debacle. We had young modestly dressed ladies(jeans and Tee-shirts) distracting the secret service, and a sign on the back of the limo saying “Ask about our Assault Gun Plan” “Free” and “Call Eric Holder”. It was all in good fun and everyone at the parade laughed and cheered. Well the next day the ogden Utah Paper the Standard Examiner Ran a Front page headline story based on the comments from a few malcontents (who we found on FaceBook the day before) plotting to create a viral smear campaign against our town and us. The story was printed and jumped on by the paper before any fact finding was even attempted.
    The comments in Red are mine as to what really went on.
    Pictures were taken by a Stephanie Wilkins and posted to her website the day of the parade and you can see them here http://www.whattodoinogdenvalley.com/blogThe young man is doing a dance move and his hands are just passing in front of him, HUNTSVILLE — Youngsters dressed as Secret Service agents and an individual wearing a Barack Obama mask signaled to spectators from a limo at Wednesday’s Huntsville Fourth of July parade — an entry with the kind of political speech that our country protects. TruthThe sign on the side read: “Obama Farewell Tour.” It read “Huntsville Welcomes The Obama Farewell Tour?” (We don’t know what will happen. Hence the question mark!)But it was the banner on the back of the limo that some riled spectators say went too far. It read, “Plan B: Assault Guns.” This read “Ask about or assault gun program” “Call Eric Holder” and “Free” inside a splash. Obviously a reference to Fast and The Furious scandal.DeDe Fluette, who for years has driven from Ogden to Huntsville to see the parade, said she was “outraged.” Don’t know if she was even there, yesterday we noticed several people colluding to raise a fuss on Facebook and the instigator admitted she was not there. (Those comments have since been deleted.)“We were just sickened,” she said.“It put such a hush over the crowd. Everyone was just having fun — candy and kids — and then there was that float,” she said. “Everyone was, ‘Whoa!’ ” Everyone cheered and laughed.No one knows who sponsored the parade entry. Huntsville doesn’t require entry forms for its annual parade. We have been in the Huntsville parade for over 40 years and for at least 20 have done floats that are funny, and usually are centered around the current events, (IE our Billary Clinton entry)“It’s like Mayberry here,” said Huntsville Mayor Jim Truett. “We don’t inspect them first; they just show up the day of the parade, get in line and go.” True we usually design the float and enter it that morning.But he acknowledged that the float offended some people, and he offered an apology on behalf of the town council.“All we can do is apologize,” he said. “I think if the town council had known it was going to be in the parade, it wouldn’t have been allowed.” The town Council did send a member to look at the float because a float passed us and boo’d, of course their float had a man that appeared naked in a bathtub squirting people with water and a woman on a bed, but that’s totally appropriate right? They didn’t stop us.Truett, riding in the front of the parade, said he didn’t see the anti-Obama entry, which included what appeared to be young teenagers dressed in Secret Service suits accompanying the white limo.Also walking alongside was an individual wearing an Obama mask. TrueFluette said the mask-wearer had his arm draped over the shoulders of a scantily clad white woman, who appeared to some spectators to be a teenager. In the background sounded the Will Ferrell song “Ladies Man.” The song includes the line, “The time has come to kill the ladies man.” These were my nieces that are very good girls (15 yrs. old) and wearing jeans and tee shirts. No such song was played. It was a short routine that started with a snippet of “Hail to the Chief”, where the announcer would say lets give a big Huntsville welcome to President Obama” , then followed by “Stayin Alive” by the Bee Gees, where all the kids would start dancing.“The Fourth of July celebration is to celebrate unity and being a country,” Fluette said. “This was promoting hate; this was promoting violence against the leader of our country. It was not appropriate in a Fourth of July parade.” Not at anytime was any hate or violence suggested against the President.Fluette said some people in the parade crowd began to shout, in defense of the entry, “freedom of speech.” But she believes the mention of assault guns removed the float from the realm of political speech and into incendiary, perhaps even treasonous, speech. We had, that we counted 3 separate instances that people showed their displeasure at the float, mostly people laughed and cheered. The second person was a man that actually came up and told us we were Un American. We stopped the float and told the spectators what he said and asked if they thought the float was Un-American to cheer loudly….Hmm nothing. We then asked if they thought the float was American to cheer and the crowd went crazy cheering!It was the “racist” Obama mask that stopped cold Ogden resident Donn Owen. How is a mask of the president racist? Any more than a mask of President Bush?“It was just way out of line,” said Owen, who has made a family tradition of attending the Huntsville Fourth of July parade. We have made a tradition of being in the Huntsville Parade. As a family that has grown up here and participated well before those that attend even knew we had a parade. Most resident will tell you that it is our family entry that people are eager to see, because we have fun and are creative.He said the mask looked like something out of “Uncle Tom’s Cabin.” It is sold on the internet and is a pretty good likeness actually. Here is a link at Target(http://www.target.com/p/men-s-deluxe-barack-obama-adult-mask/-/A-11317325?ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001&AFID=Google_PLA_df&LNM=%7C11317325&CPNG=toys&ci_sku=11317325&ci_gpa=pla&ci_kw=)“It’s like white men years ago” who would dress in blackface, he added. ???????Also upsetting to Owen and Fluette were the youngsters involved in the entry. “Gosh, there were even little kids in it,” Owen said.  It has always been a family float just like most of the floats in our parade.Fluette agreed, saying, “There were too many kids involved on the float who were not old enough to think politically. I believe the adults have taught the kids that.” One of the parade organizers, who asked not to be identified, said not everyone was offended by the parade entry. To make sure, she had a nearby Weber County sheriff’s deputy take a look at the float before the parade began; he said he didn’t see anything wrong with it, the organizer said. “A lot of people loved it,” the organizer said. “So many people were cracking up at it. … It’s freedom of speech, and if people don’t like it, they have the right to express that.”Weber County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Lt. Mark Lowther said the deputy evidently determined that the entry’s statements didn’t rise to the level of a crime.“It’s a double-edged sword,” he said. “Everyone wants to exercise free speech, but as soon as someone’s offended by it, they want us as law enforcement to act on it. It’s one of those things you can’t have both ways.”Still, Lowther said, he’s not condoning threatening speech. “It’s unfortunate that these people chose to take their message to a family event like this,” he said. It is unfortunate that people cant take a joke and that they have to take things to a level they were never intended. Also how a few can come to run a whole town into changes that meet their agenda.Truett said he heard both positive and negative comments after the parade. He said he believes the entry’s purpose was to entertain, not vilify.“I don’t think the intention was to mock Obama, but to try to be funny and creative.” True, although I think he is being pressured to defend the town when he never should have to.However, he said, he’s concerned that the float may have marred the celebration’s traditionally friendly, patriotic and hometown atmosphere.“There were (numerous) people complimenting us on our Fourth of July (celebration), and to have one thing be negative, I just hate that. It (the entry) didn’t represent Huntsville at all.” I guess we don’t represent the town and we never wanted to represent Huntsville, just us and our humor. Interesting how Jay Leno, or anyone can poke fun, or even that the liberals can say or do whatever in the name of free speech but when someone says something against their agenda we must be silenced.We heard it on the radio as several radio stations spewed out the same garbage without any investigating, as if it were true.The Doug Wright show did the same and started saying how they were all over it working to get the pictures and find Dave Clawson, Ha, he called them and sent them the pictures. they worked hard at it.What’s even more crazy and hilarious is this woman even after the proof, and thousands of comments reaffirming her outright lies, and twisting of the truth, for her own agenda, still had the audacity to retell the same lies and assert their truthfulness in a letter to the editor of the same paper. Whats even more insane than that is that the paper printed it.We live in a great Nation. The best on earth, yet it boggles my mind how just a few malcontents can take the things that are great about us as a people and a nation and try to guilt us into feeling bad about those very things that have shaped us into the free nation that we are. They seek to change this nation by degrees and take out the things that set us apart and made this nation special. And they are the minority of voters, so now whenever anyone has a problem they cry victim, and racist, and shame shame. We are a great nation and we definitely do not need anymore apologizing for our accomplishments.Our Mayor and the Town Councilwoman let us down, and acted out of cowardice, because they were afraid to stand up to a few malcontents, spreading lies. Instead of acknowledging that we have always entered the parade and have always had a satirical float and have alway been eagerly anticipated every year. The real Crime is in how so few are ready to speak the truth and stand by the people they represent, instead of being bullied into cowering with apologies and political correctness.

  • Anonymous

    Poor ole Glenn Beck takes to much of this stuff to heart. There is no hope for this country whatsoever when people elect complete scumbag thieves into office like the Obamanation and his friends. The American people will only vote for mirrors of themselves. So that means this illegal Steward will be re-elected by the little Obamanations we call the New American people. Peace and Love to All.

  • w. Parker

    Sounds like you’re anti-rich people – anti-large corporations, the same people and institutions which offer americans employment opportunites.  You’re right, not all of us has that opportunity, but does that make these people evil.  Have you thought the reason for foreign accts. is because of the unfair tax rate towards these people/businesses?  Do you accept as fair the fact that 49% of americans pay “NO” taxes while people/organizations who do pay taxes see their taxes pay for increasingly more entitlement programs?  Where is the incentive for poor people to work when all is taken care of by the govt from wealthy/middle class people’s taxes?? There is only one God and one devil (obambo).  Although i personally would prefer a Newt or Trump as prez at this particular point in time, i feel Romney cannot be worse than a habitual liar, muslim, spend crazy, amoral, sacrilegious, communist loving worm with no experience at running a business or a democracy.  No one – No one has flipped-flopped more or is a bigger snake, than the current moron.

  • http://twitter.com/MaggieRFreda Maggie R. Freda

    Your heading makes it look like Romney is the one lying instead of being lied about. http://MayorMoney.blogspot.com

  • Anonymous

    All of a sudden Glenn has faith in CNN, Washington Post, Factcheck.org? How convenient.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t say they were evil.  What they are doing is perfectly legal, I don’y agree with the loopholes and I don’t believe they are right.  If fact I think it hurts the country because of that lost tax revenue, which sometimes ends up in other government hands.

    I’m a hard working white collar worker, I have to pay my tax.  I think its Unpatriotic to exile you taxes.  I think it should be stopped.

    As for the rest Newt and Trump…  thats a joke right Newt like his name a bottom feeding pond dwell.

    ANd trump like his name. a trumped up ego maniac.

    Obama isn’t the devil or a muslim or a communist.  Granted he is a politician who has fallen prey to the spin machine in washington…  You deluded if you think its going be any different with Romney,

    Just remember Reagan raised Taxes and created these loophole and borrowed the trillions of dollars and help create these tax loopholes.  He left office in a recession.  Atleast Clinton left office with a chest full of cash.

    God (which everyone you believe) forbid you ever lose your home, job or get a terminal illness, or have a sick child.  Its extremely hard to pull yourself out of that mess.

    Healthcare in this country is a mess, we have the lowest life expectancy for a 1st world country and and low literacy rate.  Obamacare might not be the answer but its a start, and thankfully someone addressed.  Or maybe we do what Rick perry guess said to his texan citizens

    Rick Perry To 6.5 Million Texans With No Healthcare-You’re On Your Own
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/07/09/rick-perry-to-6-5-million-texans-with-no-healthcare-youre-on-your-own/

  • Anonymous

    Why doesn’t Obama’s outsourcing recently – money to foreign companes in China, Brazil, France, Finland, etc every come up?

  • Anonymous

    I think the ENTIRE nation, liberal or conservative needs to look at Romney’s tax and investment activities as a microcosm for what people do with their money when someone is trying to steal from them.  Anyone with any financial sense knows that if the government is taxing the hell out of your money, it’s probably wise to put it somewhere that it won’t get taxed.  Keep in mind, Romney is not an embezzler, not a drug dealer, not a man who OUTSOURCES jobs, he is just a rich guy protecting his own money.  I’ll call him greedy because that’s what he is, but he has the right to be greedy with HIS OWN MONEY!  
    If you want real compromise, try this one on for size, like Robert Gibbs said to Candy Crowley, every president beforehand has released his tax returns willingly for the benefit of public knowledge but…You know what else every president has done up until Obama came around?  Released their birth certificate.  So Romney shows his forms and Obama shows his papers…fair enough?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H4V5YCS6XAZQFLQ23ER7AFQO5E tall john

    DO NOT CLICK on Maggie’s link it is a BS trick to direct you to a website selling a scam.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H4V5YCS6XAZQFLQ23ER7AFQO5E tall john

    A toaster would be a better President…

  • Anonymous

    Think you need to think. First off Presidents DON’T have the power to raise taxes. That is the perogative of the Congress. Second, Obama is a Marxist who desires this country to “change” into the image of Lenin. (Please read his book – he states that he “sought out Marxist Professors” – people gravitate to their own kind). Third, your misuse of life expectancy rates is what the liberals do. Other countries do NOT add into those rates the preterm death rates like they do here in the USA. That skews the whole thing. Also, our “lavish” lifestyles” increases the nasty stuff like diabetes etc – but those are a choice not caused by the nation. Obamacare does NOT fix the healthcare problems – it only addresses CONTROL by the government. That’s another Marxist idea. Finally, anyone would be better than the President we have now.

  • Anonymous

    Your media is totally in the bed with sissy boy and he is doing to them what can normally be expected in bed. They are loving it and him. Your fourth estate has become a fifth column.

  • Soulphoenix

    Pres. Obama’s new campaign slogan: “Whatever it Takes”

    Pres. Obama’s oath to the American people: “I promise to be the most powerful president in the history of the United States and to crush all of my enemies beneath my feet, so help me [you fill in the blank here, as it's unclear who or what he worships besides himself].”

    Pres. Obama’s law: “You will serve me and you will like it, because the power is mine, not yours.”

    Maybe that’s a little extreme, but that’s about what it’s sounding like, isn’t it? He isn’t called the most egotistical president in U.S. history for nothing. He wanted to be president for his own benefit, and he had zero executive experience to bring to the job – just a whole lot of political muscle he wildly swings around like Thor’s hammer in Loki’s hands.

    We can’t afford four more years of him. Time for a change – and think carefully about voting for ANY incumbent come November. We need to send a clear message. The power is OURS, not THEIRS.

  • Anonymous

    If Gibbs wants Romney to release his tax information… where is his interest in Obama releasing his citizenship / Social Security information;  college transcripts; etc. ?  What’s good for the goose…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1203122132 Ryan J. Daugherty

    It doesn’t matter if he’s tax-dodging…he has every right to keep as much of his own money that he earned on his own as he would like. As long as it’s not illegal, there’s nothing wrong with it. Very wealthy people shield their wealth all the time. Ever heard of a trust? What do you think that is? It’s a tool designed to shield the wealth and assets of the trust members, donors and recipients.

  • Anonymous

    “Read My Lips!”  That lie lost a President his 2nd term.  “(ObamaCare) is not a tax!”  A lie which should be enough disqualify another President his 2nd term.  Combined with all the other lies, I’m surprised this guy is able to collect a penny for his campaign.

  • Anonymous

    Ignore the bullshit by Robert Gibbs. He’s a sycophant of the Obama regime. Simple, straightforward.
    The LIES about the OLD Armco Steel in Kansas City are just too much for me! I did not have to do any homework. I WAS PRESENT THROUGHOUT THAT WHOLE ISSUE WHEN MY COMPANY WAS EXPOSED FOR MULTI MILLION DOLLARS OF HARD CAPITAL ON THE GROUND AT ARMCO KANSAS CITY. Bain stepped in and by rationalizing the site was able to breathe a number of years into the facility until it finally succumbed like many other domestic steel sites around the US.

    THE OBAMA RETELLING AND RESPINNING THE ARMOC/BAIN INVOLVEMENT STORY IS ENOUGH TO MAKE ME REALIZE THAT THIS REGIME WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO GET WHAT IT WANTS!

    THE WHOLE SETUP IS AN ABJECT BOLD FACED LIE!

  • Anonymous

    NOBAMA2012!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003961394056 Lauritz Heinze

    How shocking… an obama associate whom is as big a lying dirtbag as the head lying dirtbag, obama, himself is!

  • Anonymous

    Double down on your lies Obama Regime…Given enough rope, you have hung yourself!~Nobama2012

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Never mind those W. Mitt Romney signatures on documents between 1999 and 2001, right?

    If we accept Factcheck’s conclusions, then we should also accept that Mitt Romney signed off on plant closures and offshoring jobs without knowing what he was signing because he was so busy with the Olympics.

    Or we can simply accept that he did know what was happening and didn’t care or pay enough attention to it to care.

    Either way, it doesn’t change the underlying claim. Bain Capital, while under Mitt Romney’s leadership, closed plants and sent jobs to Mexico, China, India and elsewhere. Whether or not Romney was active or passive is irrelevant — his name was on the door.

    Consider their argument in the context of a sitting United States President. Are we supposed to believe Mitt Romney would not be responsible for some official government act because he was paying attention to some other government thing and so the failure of that government thing that affected real people was simply not his fault because the other government thing succeeded?

    http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/romneys-desperate-need-counterspin-captures 

  • Ernest Hemple

    Romney needs to create and run the ad about Obama’s homosexual partner from college, Obama’s arrest record and Obama’s 1.2 GPA from Harvard. 

  • Soulphoenix

    Pres. Obama’s new campaign slogan: “Whatever it Takes”
    Pres. Obama’s oath to the American people: “I promise to be the most powerful president in the history of the United States and to crush all of my enemies beneath my feet, so help me [you fill in the blank here, as it's unclear who or what he worships besides himself].”

    Pres. Obama’s law: “You will serve me and you will like it, because the power is mine, not yours.”

    Maybe that’s a little extreme, but that’s about what it’s sounding like, isn’t it? He isn’t called the most egotistical president in U.S. history for nothing. He wanted to be president for his own benefit, and he had zero executive experience to bring to the job – just a whole lot of political muscle he wildly swings around like Thor’s hammer in Loki’s hands.

    We can’t afford four more years of him. Time for a change – and think carefully about voting for ANY incumbent come November. We need to send a clear message. The power is OURS, not THEIRS.

  • MT Hammer

    Gibbs is another Liar , why don’t people hold him to the fire. I don’t want to hear anything but an answer to my question Crowley should have said. You are not answering my question , all these people in the media said these were lies. I don’t want to hear about just go to the Washington Post they submitted the ad , so what you are telling me you will put anything out there , don’t you fact check what you tell the public. Gibbs you are lying to me right now is that what the Obama’s campaign is all about , tell enough lies maybe some will stick . I am done with this interview , when you are ready to tell the truth then you can come back.

  • Ernest Hemple

    Start the ad this way: Did Obama have a homosexual lover in college? Was Obama arrested for drugs in Hawaii and is it true that Obama had a 1.2 GPA at Harvard?

  • w. Parker

    Regan restored this country from a bumbling, incompetent, scared peanut farm to a greatness never seen since WWII.  He restored honor (something unheard of these days), integrity, military might, respect for america, on and on, and it was worth every penny…The “tax loopholes” you speak of are obama’s front left/right pockets. Perhaps it would be fair if people could designate what govt program they would like to contribute (it’s “our” money).  Obamacare – better?  taxes raised, long lines, govt approval for procedures, Dr’s now retiring – getting out of business=less doctors, death boards, on and on and on.  How can you get the same amount/type of treatment adding 30,000,000 people to the plan with fewer doctors??? Who’s paying for this? Can you keep your present doctor – really?  Why can’t i purchase insurance from a Texas, Oregon, Georgia company if i live in La.?  Need to make the companies competative. Cut out the frivolous law suits!  Dang lawyers – ambulance chasers!  Obimbo is no Clinton and dang sure not Regan!

  • Gary Alan Adkins

    Re-Elect Obama! Lie, Cheat, Steal! What ever you do is OK!  

  • Anonymous

    Offshore accounts are legal. They usually pay higher interest than US banks.  As long as the interest earned is reported, and tax paid on it, there is no problem.

  • Richard Brophy

    Obama/Democrats/Liberals –> summed up in one word –> LIARS!

    These people are unconscionable in their lies, as if freedom of speech equates to unlimited freedom to vilify and slander. The sooner we get rid of such dishonest people, the better off our country will be.

  • Gary Alan Adkins

    BUCK OBAMA!

  • Ernest Hemple

    Barrack as a proponent of partial birth abortion, you might want to consider a retroactive abortion for yourself? Let us know how it feels like when it you. 

  • Ernest Hemple

    Barrack as a proponent of partial birth abortion, you might want to
    consider a retroactive abortion for yourself? Let us know how it feels
    like when its you. 

  • Anonymous

    Meg–Hurrah,fot you bert. Great honest comment. Never see one from all the liberals that like to spread lies. They think they are the only ones who should have free speech. They sure can’t take the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Meg–AMEN!!!

  • Anonymous

    Meg–AMEN!! Truth was never spoken better.

  • Anonymous

    1938 – NAZI GERMANY- HITLER  ==  2012 – NAZI AMERICA -OBAMA  –  1984 STARTS –  STARTS WITH EITHER ROMNEY OR OBAMA  –  MAKES NO DIFFERENCE  ==  NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL  –   AS YOU WILL SOON SEE.

  • Anonymous

    Meg–These comments are replying to soulphoenix.

  • Anonymous

    I have a scathingly wonderful idea.  Let’s find, buy, and donate an island somewhere and exile Obama and everyone who get’s the “thrill up their leg” go and live there with him!  Then we can be free of his nasty, stinking, amoral lunacy and self-aggrandizement, all of which I cannot fathom.  Then, we change the illegal immigration laws to include the ENTIRE population of Obama-Land. Free at last, we will be free at last!

    P.S. Do any of our readers have an extra island they are not using?

    Fed Up in California

  • Anonymous

    Romney’s such a weak candidate it doesn’t matter.  If the establishment and RINO’s would have listened to the TEA party and reformed their big government progressive ways We could have EASILY de-throned Obama. 

    Instead We repeat the same mistake as 2008, Another Big Government Progressive with no chance of beating Obama. 

    There is no difference between the parties anymore, all Big Gov. Progressives.

    I’m praying for a small gov. 3rd party soon or where done for.

  • w. Parker

    You mean “3″ words – Lying, socialist, creeps

  • Anonymous

    Let’s do this:  Remove all the “special benifits” from the legislative, judicial (sorry conflict of terms) and executive (oh, another conflict of terms) branches we pay taxes for.  Maybe the “special benifits” that government workers (third general conflict of terms, sorry).  Maybe then we could get a smaller government managed by “WE the PEOPLE” and maybe the millions (or billions) of dollers “required” to run the respective branches could be used to put US back on a sound economic track.  I’ve wondered for along time why one has to be “rich” (term used loosly) to be president.

  • Anonymous

    Gibbs wants to point fingers at Romney for not releasing information to the public.  How about Obama, look at all the information he refuses to release.  When is our “president” going to be honest with the people of the USA.   The only thing we should have  “Out” sourced  is Obama in 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Agree bert28…….. most corporations or people who have the money Mitt does, will put money in offshore accounts, as you say to protect their wealth, sometimes to protect from bogus lawsuits.Ot to keep governments from being able to illegally take their wealth.

  • Rex Whitmer

    Gibbs is, was and ever will be a liar in so far as Obama is concerned.  He has never admitted that Obama actually has sent many more jobs off shore than Romney ever even thought of.  He has killed businesses that might have pulled us out of our present resession/depression and has spent the national treasury for the next twenty years!   Obama care is a joke as are most other socialist/communist schemes.  While he was in office, I thought that Clinton was the biggest liar ever, but Gibbs and Obama are far better.  Goering in Hitler’s regime made the statement something to the effect tell a lie often enough and loud enough and people will come to believe the lie is the truth.  This story is straight out of Goering’s text.  They can claim little or no good for their administration so they will claim that the competition is bad so loud and often that they hope America will believe.  We are still waiting to see a legitimate birth certificate from Hawaii or anywhere else that will prove Obama was even born!  We are still waiting to see his college records which he has sealed.  We are waiting to see an honest draft regsistration card.  What we have seen is his mother bring him back from Kenya at three months old!  We haven’t seen anything positive about him.  We know he and Michelle hate America excepting for what they can con us out of.  You know, I woudn’t be so upset, excepting that he’s laughing at all of us, we used to call it laughing up his sleeve to hide his snickering!  His college records would most likely prove that he wasn’ a good student and was involved in socialist or communist activities.  He admits to being an alcoholic and druggie in high school.  Let’s get the liberal media combing his files as well as they are Mitt’s.  Mitt’s too honest to lie as does Obama and Soros and that crowd.  Hitler lied pretty well and so did Mouselini and Stalin.  Their whole reign of terror was based on lies!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/ted.wight Ted Wight

    GET MAD, MITT.

  • Anonymous

    Easy to know whem Obama or any of his  administration are lying…their lips are moving

  • Anonymous

    Easy to know when Obama or any of his admistration are lying…their lips are moving!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jw-Appling/100001282155183 J.w. Appling

    Nice to see Baghdad Bob is still working.

  • Anonymous

    How come nobody (not Crowley, not even Beck) noticed that the very place Gibbs said to go, WashingtonPost.com, was the very place that gave the Bain Capital ads/message FOUR Pinocchios. So, until WE THE PEOPLE realize who the Dumbo is spreading the Pinocchios, we will be the Dumbo. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Caruso/1587245855 Sandy Caruso

    “methinks he doth protest too much, methinks.”  You can always spot a liar. They continue to push the falsehood over and over, getting louder and more combative until they believe someone else will accept it. Gibbs needs to give it up and admit he’s signed on with the lies.  His boss (Obama) is a LIAR and so is Gibbs.

    He BOB…..The jig is UP and we the American people KNOW. Time for a different POTUS.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EMV5MPGVUMQW6KDA5DKUPMZQEQ JHOWA

    funny the Obama admin asking romney to show documentation from his past. kettle meet pot.
    romney submitted his tax forms to the IRS and they were accepted , that should be all that is needed.

  • Anonymous

    Fair point, it was congress, who passed the raise, which until 87? think was republican majority… after that democrat.

    I understand your point about statistics, I think both sides mis use them.  When you compare, the US to say the UK, Australia or Canada, I think lifestyle wise they are very similar to the US.

    These are independent stats based on the same criteria.

    Australia #6
    Canada #10
    England #13
    USA #38

    Thats a vast difference.

    first 3 all have universal healthcare.  I don’t believe they are Maxist countries

    I’ve posted this question many time on here and no one has every answered it.

    If you don’t have Insurance, and you get cancer or another horrid illness.  what should we as a country do, let that person die?

    My Father got his hip replaced in Great Britain and paid to have it done Privately not on the NHS system.  When I told my friend (A Surgeon) how much they charge, he laughed and said “It would be 3 times as much in the US”.  So if Obamacare doesn’t fix the healthcare system.  What is an alternative, because the current system IS broke and soon to be unobtainable by most middle income folks such as myself.

    I don’t agree that Obama is a socialist, I do agree that he a lot more liberal than any President the US is use to.

    Capitalism is a good system, and is the system that I want to live under.  What I don’t like is Greed and gluttony of Companies and Governments.  When a healthcare system doesn’t see the people as people but as profit and $$.  Insurance companies look for every possible loophole to not pay health coverage.  Thats just plain wrong.

    We are happy to send to low income, poor kids off to fight in our wars, but we don’t want to protect them when they get home.

    Romney may know how to run a corporation, but when did America become America INC.  Being a good leader and leading people has nothing to do with profit margins.

    Obamacare is modeled after Romney Care , Romney even took credit for it.

    Romney said “I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country” to “I am firmly pro-life.”  Now he is anti -choice

    Romney As a gubernatorial candidate in Massachusetts, he refused to sign a pledge that he would not seek tax increases. As a presidential candidate, he signed it.

    As a Senate candidate in Mass he distanced himself from Reagan style politics. As a presidential candidate, he’s embraced the Reagan.

    That man will agree to anything that will get him elected.  He has no morals or backbone.

    I do think, everyday I read more and more about the culture, the history, the sociology of not just America but of the world.  I love good honest dialogue, I have friends from all over the political spectrum, from libertarians, conservatives, republicans, liberals, socialist and even a couple of true marxists (my socialist and marxist friends all hate Obama).  At this point I consider myself a centrist.  As an immigrant to your country, to which I about to become and proud to to be a US citizen.  The thing I love about America is that is isn’t oppose to change and drastic change.  Every 4 to 8 years.  Most other countries go back and fourth but its really the same.  In my American experience I have lived through the last years of Clinton the horrid years of Bush and now the first black president.  Americans are amazing people.

    of course I’ve not been able to vote in any of these election.  That will change when I take my oath of citizenship, I just hope its before election day, and I will get to have my say.  I’m still undecided as to who to choose.  More thinking to do…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jw-Appling/100001282155183 J.w. Appling

     “Truly Obama’s base is a number of frogs in the pot of water that is
    slowly being heated to a boil and they will not pay attention to the
    matter.”
     They are the sheep from Animal Farm.

  • Anonymous

    Haha, gotta love old Gibbs.  His last line here was “I go back to 2 very different visions of the economy”.  Well, then duh?  Seems like Oblamo’s vision is to destroy it, why in the heck do we want more of the same?

  • Anonymous

    Ask Gibbs if it would be alright if Romney were to be elected President and then wait 3 years to produce proof that what he is saying to be false. Do you think Gibbs would be okay with that one?

    Hmmm … 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IBPI63ABT264USBDALCN4F7UKY billy2

    I’m going to have to disagree with Glenn, to me this pos has dirtied the presidency to the hilt, I have no more respect for it, IT definitely has lost total and complete credibility, I have at least 200% less respect for the half-white, half-wit mongrel that’s in it as we speak.

  • Anonymous

    Obama’s website is outsourced to Netherlands, look at the flag in the URL [right side].

    I was on the whitehouse.gov website.
    The image below is a potion of my screen without any manipulation.
    Notice the flag on the top right side….
    That flag is from the Netherlands.
    It is an extension in Google Chrome I use called “Yet Another Flags” that shows the country of the server where the site I am viewing is hosted.
    Our White House couldn’t find a suitable American company to host their site?  Really?
    What ever happened to buy American first?  Supporting our local economy?
    Call me crazy, but I feel that our Government should be REQUIRED to use American products and services when and where available.

  • Anonymous

    Since we are going back and looking at ears of recrds, letsstart with Obama’s scool / euction rcrds that show hi going to school as aforeign National.  Where is the rtransperancy from Obama?? or any of hs lying cronis??

  • http://twitter.com/moogoo3544 borninamerica

    It’s time to shout it to the rooftops — The man in the Oval Office is a Marxist!  Just look up The Third Reich – The Fall.  There are so many similarities in what Mr. Obama is doing from:         (1) Americorpse (as he put it, he would like them to be a National armed police force.  WHAT FOR? (2) When first in office, he had Janet Napolitano come out with the list that was to be sent to all police forces in the US — one of which was that giving to Charities like e.g., Catholic Charities that does much good should be stopped and that people should give their charitable donations to the Federal Government for disbursement!  That was done in The Third Reich. (3) Said that people who DON’T BELIEVE IN ABORTION ARE POTENTIAL TERRORISTS!   (4) When he refers to the health care bill, just in the past few days, he called it HIS BILL — Is he the “Leader”?  (5) He does not honor the laws of the land under the Constitution that he took a Sacred Oath to uphold.  His Department of Justice only prosecutes when Mr. Obama and Mr. Holder FEEL IT IS expedient!  Remember the VOTER INTIMIDATION IN Philadelphia — DOJ said they will not prosecute the Black Panthers!  Remember the WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE POSTERS by the Black Panthers against George Zimmerman!  Mr. Zimmerman and his family are United States Citizens, EQUAL under the law!   People, history does repeat itself and we are on the WRONG PATH UNDER THIS MAN AND HIS ADMINISTRATION!

  • Anonymous

    Hey mr Robert Gibbs I have a question for you, who is in charge of GE, and didn’t he ship jobs overseas, I quess not the king appointed him to a big post if I can remember correctly, And talk about jobs lost, didn’t the king close a lot of car dealers? Oh car dealers don’t have jobs, And as for obamacare, I think that if I have to use this bull shit plan, Everyone in the government should have to use it as well, and fall under the same rationing as will be imposed on all of us, the unions voted for the king they should be the first to endorse this shitty plan, But I will give them credit, They know a bad apple when they see one, some times,i say some times  because they didn’t see the king for who  he  really is, thanks lenin

  • Anonymous

    Lets try that again,  Since we are going Back and looking at previous years of records, lets start with bamas schol / education transcripts and records that probably show him going to school as a foreign national. Where is the transparancy form Obama that he promised?? Where is any transparancy or even honesty from any Obama officials or his ying cronies??

  • Anonymous

    Romney should say you show me your records and i’ll show you mine!

  • Anonymous

    and remember at least Romney is Not a Commie ….like Hussein-Osama oops Obama and All His adviCzars are!!!  Allen West should be the VP Nominee!!

  • Anonymous

    There may be an opening on the island of St. Helena or whatever the name is down in the South Atlantic.  Napoleon’s old abode is probably vacant there. 
    To insure he stays there they would have to weld bars over all the doors and windows so no one can get in or out.
    But, I understand he is spending a lot of taxpayer money in Kenya, probably building himself a castle.   Maybe he will go and not come back.  We can all hope that will be the case.  

  • patrick quinn

    Why didn’t you hold up fact check & the Washington Post ..close up…so It could be re-posted

  • Anonymous

     My very same thoughts.  This guy is accusing of Romney hiding something, and look what Obama has shielded.

  • Anonymous

    We Need To Change Party Systems…Call Them as it is Not Democrat and Republican but call the Party’s Liberal and Conservatives! So We Know Where They All Stand!!
    Let’s Create a new culture or the Truth! The Truth Will SEt You Free With Being On God’s Side!
    Abe Lincoln said My Concern is not whether God being on my side but Me Being On God’s Side!is what matters! Know God Know Truth, No Truth No God!!

  • Anonymous

    When they ask for the tax records, I wish they would counter they will do that when Obama release all his records on his life, ie. real birth certificate, education records, selective service card, etc. These republicans need to get smarter when responding to questions or they will lose. They need to learn how to turn around the issues.

  • Anonymous

    Utopian socialism is not reality-based…its fantasy-based and hence MUST be deception-based…this is why so many thinking humans are puzzled by the words/actions of the arrogant apostles of utopian socialism, who, lacking ethical or moral boundaries…
    THEY MUST use distractions, bold lies, demons and smears to promote or protect their toxic policies…they have no choice…they are selling fire (toxic utopian socialism) to a scarecrow (the voter)…thus we reality-based thinkers must tolerate their bold lies daily as we watch in amazement. 
    BTW, they cannot be debated (its like teaching algebra to a dog)…only exposed and defeated. 

  • Anonymous

    I woulod rather take advise from a man that knows how to make money ie. MR than from a man that never made his own money  like soulbrother#1. The brothers & sisters will vote for him no matter what he does and I can understand that. They mostely line up with his kind anyway.

    As far as the media not talkin about the bad stuff soulbrother # 1 is doing well; that is what he (SB#1) is payin them to do…  he coulden’t possably pull off this con he has been getin away with now without payin a LOT of people off… Judges & other politicians included!

  • Anonymous

    Everything Hussein-Osama oops Obama does is just a distraction to focus attention off of his record every week it is a new scandle on someone else. like the economy is Bushes fault even though he’s been President for four years.. he is the one that put US into the mess. truth doesn’t matter to these people. after all he is the chosen one first I say it then it is done…i am the truth and the way only hussein-obama way is darkness!
    we have to start speaking up For God’s Way the way of real Truth Way And Light!.. Through Jesus Christ! Only Two Religions Created by God Jews and Catholic meaning Universal. Jesus Last Jew and First Christian! Hussein-Obama and all his cohorts and
    AdviCzars Bible is RulesForRadicals which was dedicated to Lucifer…which tells you those who follow Hussein-Obama will follow to death not to eternal Life! for to 
    Know Truth is To Know God for No Truth is No God!! This Is Lucifers battle he has been battling since the beginning of time for Man’s Soul. As Man became More Intelligent they lost the important intelligence…Common Sense!! We Must Get Back To Common Sense Common Courtesy To Get Back To God to Get All Back to God For
    only HE can Save US!

  • http://twitter.com/Sargonarhes S. E. Roberts

    So Obama is borrowing a page out of Hitler’s book, well not really Hitler the quote comes from
    Joseph Goebbels who was Hitler’s Propaganda Minister and coined the quote “If you tell a lie often enough, people begin to believe it” That sounds very much like what Obama is trying to do.

  • Anonymous

    as Glenn says at least Romney is Not a Commie!and I would rather vote for a Morman of faith than a radical islamist terrorist…those are our two choices for President!

  • Anonymous

    of course he would quote Hitler, his boss his puppeteer is George (Schwartz) Soros who had worked for the Nazi as a teen! who needs media when we have propaganda!

  • Anonymous

    Gibbs needs to spread lies. If this was done on the other side, they would never allow it. This president is full of lies and scandals. Gibbs has the nerve to throw stones at Romney after all the scandals his president has done. His president has not produced jobs here. He has given pay backs to unions and companies that will get him elected. Disgraceful!

  • Anonymous

    Gone are the honest straight forward newspeople.  What we have now are “Personalities”.  They say what they are told to say and they have no personal integrity.  All that matters are the ratings.  There are no more Cronkites or even Brokaws in the news media today.  Opinion belongs in the “Opinion” shows or columns, not in the Evening or Morning news reports.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M7S2DAGHP57KNB4Q4LBYWO3O6M SA Tom

    CNN will likely “Lou Dobbs” Candy Crowley if she doesn’t start “towing the line.”

  • Don DeLathouwer

    I really need to stop reading and listening to all of the lying Africans Bull$hit. It just runs my blood pressure up, and I don’t want to depend on Obummercare to make me healthy again. On a side note, it’s good to see someone at CNN asking questions (and demanding answers) when the Obummer “spin” machine is engaged. Anyone who votes for this corrupt P.O.S. in November needs to be sent to Kabal, taking their hero with them.

  • Anonymous

    One more thought. Gibbs wants Romney to release tax returns to show where money is going. Well his own AG won’t release the rest of the papers to show what happened in Fast in Furious. Let’s demand he does that. He is accusing Romney of things before he even knows the truth. Even after these sources have fact checked it, he doesn’t care. Romney is dubbed guilty before a trial.What is fair for one side, is fair for the other side.

    The only way they can win is through lies. Don’t forget who the great DECEIVER is. Satan. Anyone who engages in deceiving, engages in serving Satan. The truth is through Jesus Christ. The truth will set you free. People look for the signs. Look to who is deceiving and who is telling the truth. Demand the truth.

  • Anonymous

    What about Holder release the information to congress? I never understood why they didn’t look in to that SS# from Connecticut. There is so many unanswered questions that people are just letting go.

  • Anonymous

    Gibbs is good at it. He knows exactly what he is doing and how to do it. Very cunning. Every liar is met with confrontation and finally the truth. It will consume him.

  • http://twitter.com/musicman04 John Waldenberger

    And the REPUBLICAN REGIME WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO GET WHAT THEY WANT BY CLAIMING OBAMA IS A MUSLIM AND NOT A US CITIZEN WITH NO EVIDENCE!!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand why someone doesn’t speak up when people like Gibbs speculate about Romney’s tax returns or Swiss bank accounts.  I would love for the reporter to ask Gibbs if he was so interested in full disclosure, why hasn’t Obama released all of his records like his school papers, transcripts, and information about his law license. 

    Frankly, it is the height of hypocrisy to insinuate that someone else is a shady character because they haven’t released their records when the candidate you support is keeping things hidden from view.  No other President in history has been shrouded in such mystery as this one has.  

  • sparducks

    Gibbs ia a fat faced liar. I can’t stand his smarmy fat face up their feed the B.S. to the american people. After he’s had enpough the just stamp out another smarmy school boy looking pathological liar. This whole administration is full of liars. Heck the whole democratic party is full of liars. I’m getting so sick of looking at Hillary ( dodging bullets in Bosnia) Clintons haggard mug on T.V. trying to smoke the American people as the whole middle east is blowing up. It’s time to take the reins away from these children and give it back to the adults, before we all end up dead.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erik-Osbun/100001215333702 Erik Osbun

    That’s wrong Glenn: to me it is obvious that Obama is a liar.

  • Guest

    Just like you choose to ignore your own lies and those of the people you promote while accusing everyone else of the same thing. You are a hypocrite’s hypocrite, Vicky<2…

    It's the same principle…

  • Anonymous

    I did take Robert Gibbs advice to “go read the Washington Post story”.  The story is from the June 21st Washington Post by Tom Hamburger.  While his story is a little hard to follow because he injudiciously associates the entire history of Bain Capital with Mitt Romney. In the end, he admits that Romney was not personally responsible for shipping jobs overseas, but he “advised” and “provided venture capital” for companies that shipped jobs overseas due to his work with Bain Capital Investments. There are so many things wrong with the Obama administration’s interpretation of this deliberately vague piece and using it to shore up their campaign through the tired old Democrat accusation of being “out of touch” with mainstream America. Additionally, Gibbs claims in this interview that more manufacturing jobs have been created during the Obama administration than in the years prior to his having taken the helm. Is anyone stupid enough to believe this lie? First off, most Americans who own any stocks expect their stock portfolios to GROW. Guess what? The only way that happens is for companies that are failing to either be made more efficient and therefore, more profitable, or else closed and their money reinvested into other, more profitable stocks. Gibb’s contention that Romney “outsourced American jobs” is beyond bogus. Ask yourself why American jobs are being outsourced. Simple. Unions that drive up manufacturing costs to levels that will not allow US companies to compete with foreign competitors and the highest corporate tax rate in the world.  These two factors have resulted in desperate measures. I live in Washington state, original home of the Boeing Corporation. This is a blue state, overrun with unions. The unions shut down assembly lines at the facilities in the Seattle/Tacoma area over and over again. One tantrum led to another. It was unsafe for management to be in the manufacturing buildings without bodyguards because of threats to their safety by union thugs. Because of this, Boeing was losing contracts to Airbus because they could not guarantee on time delivery of planes, thus costing the company billions. They approached our counterfeit governor, Christine Gregoire, with several proposals to resolve the situation, including their last resort, which was to move the company to South Carolina, where they were being guaranteed a union free labor force and tax breaks in exchange for thousands of high paying jobs. Christine Gregoire’s response was predictable. She made no effort to entice Boeing to stay. She ORDERED Boeing to stay in the state of Washington, citing Labor and Industry laws (incorrectly) as justification for this bold move. The Obama administration got involved and L & B ordered Boeing to return to Washington, one of the gutsiest moves by Marxists that I have witnessed in many years. Any of you who followed what happened know that this was the Obama administration’s attempt to abolish Right to Work laws that allowed employees to avoid association with a union while protecting their jobs. So far, it has failed, even to the point that the unions now want to withdraw the case. Robert Gibbs, president Obama and every lunatic liberal that I have debated are simply horrified at the idea of a nation of individuals who simply want the government to get the hell out of the way so that they can make money by employing more people. Obama would much rather legislate the enslavement of these companies in order to prevent them from increasing their profit margins by shipping jobs overseas. If it weren’t for the government and the union thugs, this would not even be on the table. All those two organizations have managed to do is punish entrepreneurs, choosing to pile on tax after tax in an effort to equalize the entire populace of America through wealth redistribution. The fact of the matter is that every single economic decision Obama has made so far has had a positive effect on only one thing…the most massive growth of the federal government in history.  This has resulted in an economic death spiral, thus prompting dirty, lying campaign ads. And when they are challenged, even by the source they cite, they lie again, knowing full well that the chances of those lies being seriously challenged are practically zero. Gibbs, Obama and all their Marxist cronies do not consider a lie to actually BE a lie because, when you are a liberal, the end justifies the means, thus negating the “lie”. When their tenets are called into question on the basis of fact, they just look bewildered because liberalism cannot be argued on the basis of fact, only platitudes. They actually believe that we don’t understand because Marxism has never truly been lived in its “purity” (as if there are no examples of the stupidity and futility of that argument). But what will it take to do that? Lie upon lie upon lie….

  • sparducks

    I’m glad Romney stuck some money in offshore accounts otherwise these commie pirates would have stole it along time ago and he perhaps would’nt have the wherewithal to run against these rat bastards. I hope more rich patriots will do the same for future generations, because these slimy creeps are going away. Thank god for the Caymans they may have saved America.

  • Anonymous

     Does anybody notice BO’s tax returns, how much money he makes from investments? And, he is taking advantage of all loopholes (tax breaks). And where did that money come from?  Probably the same place the money for his house came from…..after all except for his Senate stint (if you can call his absence work), he hasn’t worked for a living, ever.

  • sparducks

    I hope Americans don’t fall for this pillsbury dough boy’s line of crap. Thank God Romney didn’t leave all of his money here where these greedy little commis can get their hands on it. What Gibbs is really trying to say is: “No fair. Mitt took all of OUR money that he earned and hid it so Barack couldn’t rob the bank and buy off all the unions.” I love to slap his fat doughy face.

  • w. Parker

    If I were Romney, i’d make a deal with obimbo…I’d show my tax returns for the past 4 years, IF, if – he produced all college transcripts, a valid BC and Thesis while in college

  • Anonymous

    Obama will be running simply to steal from all of the wealthy people.  Why is it “bad” to take care of your money?  That’s what I’d like to ask the Left.  People need to pay their mortgage, pay their medical bills, save their own money, not worry about what the next guy does etc.etc.etc.  What we don’t need to do is ask what our government can do for us, because as we’ve all seen, it’s a resounding nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Sort of reminds you of Hank Rearden huh?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Keith-Best/100001745320149 Keith Best

    Robert Gibbs is a stone cold liar. And I don’t care what Romney does with his money, I care more what Obama wants to do with MINE.

    Why doesn’t Obama release his college records?

  • allen goldberg

     Sir:
    I am a document expert
    the BC he provided
    was a total fraud
    please stop embarrassing yourself

  • Anonymous

    never seen so many ignorant’s

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1490191581 Carolyn Hamilton

    Why doesn’t bo release any of his history?  We no nothing of this liar.

  • Anonymous

    It is the American way to side with the president or else. It is prevalent in American industry just as well. It is the same in any major corporation almost aywhere. That’s why whistleblowers are condemned. The bigger the lies, the more hush-hush the truth has to be. It doesn’t matter whether it’s democrats or conservatives, both just love to smear each other than to convince the people that they will solve the problems of the former leaders. People all over are infected with the biased media, who can tell outright lies and keep repeating them as long as it serves their purpose.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1490191581 Carolyn Hamilton

    I got an article the other night showing these thugs have a BUNCH of money in the Vatican Bank..Including Roberts…Bill and Hill, bo and family, tons of them..You might google Vatican Bank, with their names and get the info..

  • Anonymous

    Get off this web site you fu**ing troll. Like every other socialist/Marxist, when you can’t come up with an answer you throw out useless drivel to distract from the reality of what is being said that you can’t refute. GET LOST!!

  • Anonymous

     Republican regime? Never heard any of the so-called leaders in the Repub party call obama a muslim. There is a hard core group of citizens that really believes that, based on some things he has said, and his upbringing and his anti Israel stance and his alleged father and his obvious bias towards muslims. His citizenship has nothing to do with believing he is muslim. Non-citizen comes out of the fact that a muslim kenyan is alleged to be his father, there are many errors on the purported birth certificate, his book Dreams…. says he was a kenyan citizen (if he claims to be born there, he is not eligible to be President but he would be a citizen because his mother was a citizen at the time).
    In short, you are an idiot who cannot write a coherent, accurate or understandable sentence.

  • Anonymous

    Why doesn’t Gibbs release his own records?  Let’s see what kind of classes he majored in and when and where he got his com mie indoctrination.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1490191581 Carolyn Hamilton

    Here is a link to read about these slush funds in the Vatican Bank in Rome..
    Bill and Hillary and Chelsea, BO, Michele and children, Judge Roberts and more.
     http://seeker401.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/bob-chapman-newsle… 
    We shall see if it comes across..

  • Anonymous

    wow, gb if in bed with disquss?

  • sparducks

    stolen money no doubt.

  • Anonymous

     Victor Tiffany is a liar and idiot with many aliases and he exists only to bedevil conservatives and those who oppose Obama.
    However your statement that “What we have seen is his mother bring him back from Kenya at three months old!” is probably not accurate or provable. There is evidence that his mother and the newborn were in Seattle between 2-6 weeks after birth.
    The state of Hawaii has certified the birth certificate, mistakes and all. That is prima facie evidence that he is a natural born citizen. Too bad there is no overwhelming documentary proof to contradict the official record.
    The US is jus soli (born here) I don’t know what Kenya citizenship policy is, but I suspect that, like Mexico, it is jus sanguinus (by blood) so if Barak O H Obama the Kenyan purported father is his father, which I personally doubt, according to Kenya BO is also claimed by Kenya as citizen, which does not, per US law, cost him his US citizenship nor his natural born status.

  • sparducks

    Huh? Gibbs? No. More like squeeler.

  • Anonymous

    I would like to see Romney embrace his wealth – proudly state that he knows how to manage companies so they can make him and others money.That is what he will do when president.  Do we want a president like Obama who only has experience helping people live off the government?  That is what a community organizer does and he is still doing it by enlarging the food stamp numbers, expanding the number on disability, encouraging others, including illegals, to get as much government handouts as they can.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KROMDWO5JHBGG2UR2KLAGDXU6U 18Echo

    Every time someone asks about his tax returns he should say they are locked up in the same vault with Obama’s college transcripts.

    When Obama opens the ‘vault’ both will be revealed.

  • sparducks

    The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which. Orwell. animal farm

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_635MBQ5YRGCMYDBUKPXN47RRPU Anonymous

    CNN must e trying to expand their low ratings by pointing out one of the obvious lies coming from DNC.

  • http://www.facebook.com/angelic0 Anne Gelinas

    It is all about POWER. Finally they lied to get to the top and will lie to stay there. One thing about lies, they catch up with the ones lying and then all the egg on their faces will stay there as a reminder that they finally lied on the way up and they will still be lying on the way down. I like to paint a picture in my mind just how glorious tha day will be.!

  • Anonymous

    So many are deceived in trying so hard to be a “winner” that few are trying to be *right*.

  • w. Parker

    I recently posted basically what you posted.  If we’re thinking this, hopefully many others are too.  Seems reasonable to me they both share documents, at least Romney is not 4 years late doing so

  • Anonymous

    Where is your proof he is not !!!

  • Anonymous

    It amazes me to the fact of how the Obama regime gets away with anything and I mean anything. To start with why is our so called politicians not raising holy hell at the things this regime is getting away with and doing something about it? Because Holder is in charge??
    It also amazes me how the majority of the population thinks Obama does not know what he is doing, he knows exactly what he is doing but we as a people are complacent in thinking he is on the “up & up”. I am way past worried on where we are headed I am scared. To me the writing is on the wall so to speak. Look at the states which require voter ID, the Feds are suing in an attempt to kill this so one person can cast multiple votes which was done in the last election, also nothing was done and it was well known.
    I performed sort of a random poll when Bush was in office on some LIBERALS which hated the air he breathed. I stated a few facts not fiction and every time the liberal would not believe the facts but only what they thought. I believe most of the so called Democrat party has turned into a socalist organazition hiding behind the name.
    Another thing why would the multimillion dollar liberals be preaching “tax the rich more”???
    The liberal/democrat regime’s tactac is to lie and decete as they cannot present the facts on what they are doing. 
    I could go on and on but will stop for now. 
    One more thing, I believe the only “nontruth” I have not heard yet by the liberals/democrats is that “FAT MEAT AINT GREASY” but anticipate to hear this soon.

  • Anonymous

    Obammy is a lying piece of s#it. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lee-Sullivan/100000256745869 Lee Sullivan

    Revelations 21:8: …the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BTQYPLSFBB3XMIUTYBOZYM573A Jane

    The sad, sad truth is that there will always be people out there who believe them. They have been so brainwashed from kindergarten through high school that it should be criminal. These are the voters that the democrat party counts on.    

  • Anonymous

    EXCELLENT POINT!  You made me laugh out loud!  Thanks for making my night.

  • Anonymous

    I hate to say this but BO is flagrantly lying about alot of issues. You have to be blind, ignorant or integrated into his ideology not to realise this

    BO accuses Gov Romney as an outsourcer (a lie) and his bailed out company, GM (who was bailout by taxpayers hard earned $$$ ) plans to shift their production overseas!!! Also BO’s jobs council chairman and pal, Jeff Immelt (who was appointed by none other than BO) outsourced 20% of GE work to China?
     
    BO has no integrity and you cannot trust anything that comes out of his mouth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/momchristo Cat Christodoulou

    If he had a real long-form BC, he would not have spent over one million dollars to keep from having to release it for all of us to see.  Also, his social security number has been shown to be fraudulent and his selective service card has a fraudulent stamp on it.  Do you really not know this information?  I could go on, but you would think I was making it up.  There is so much proof that it is hard to believe it could possibly be true.  Do a little research.  Look into what Sherriff Arpaio has found out about his documents.  People would be shocked if they truly looked at these documents without the rose colored glasses.

  • Anonymous

    Gibbs is an idiot. He can’t defend his position, he can only try to plant false suspicions.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for your time in typing all of that out.  You make it pretty clear what that the link of Left to Marxism is distinct.  The lies are okay to deal with because once you refute them, the liars look stupid if they keep arguing.  It’s the harassment I’m having a hard time dealing with these days.  When you point out the harassment they will say the Right has been harassing them for years.  It’s really just a mental illness out there, this Communist er…I mean Leftist agenda.

  • Anonymous

    You are SOOOOOO Right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dawn-M-West/1587347370 Dawn M. West

    “wooohoooo, will this be the turning point for the drive by media to finally wake the frig up!?!?!?”

    IRONY of it all.  sweet Jesus, Wake the media up!!!  Ratings for them must go up…by the the truth… PUSH back!

  • Anonymous

    The fact that Obama and his cronies lie — repeatedly; almost pathologically — is clear. 
    The complicity of the press in that process in deluding the people is also a well known fact now.  But, I am a bit more worried about Glenn’s problem with clear expression of his ideas.  Something is clearly impairing his ability to be a spokesman for the truth.  The above text is frequently disconnected and flow of thought is difficult to follow.  It may be fatigue, frustration or a combination of other factors.  He must review his comments to assure clarity or he will tend to discredit the concepts he is attempting to express.
    J.S. HARDY, M.D.

  • Anonymous

    And where is YOUR President’s info on HIS past? HUH?

  • Anonymous

     GM has ALREADY shipped jobs to China and Mexico.

  • Anonymous

     I was talking to a friend tonight who home schools. She said she used to have all the Classics and somehow they were taken away. She went to the library and many other places to replace the Classics. She state they have ALL been re-written. Our children have been “lied to” by the liberals who have been changing the USA for 50 years! It has just now shown itself to us. Obama is the icing on the cake for these Communists.

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to respond to Gibbs’ childish demand that Romney release tax returns by saying let’s see Obama’s college records and birth certificate first.

  • Anonymous

    And maybe there’ll be a birth certificate or two in there too.

  • Dale Hogue

    Dale Hogue

    The Democratic Party is so used to saying anything they want about a political opponent and not getting called on it that the perpetrators are convinced that the lies they tell are in fact the truth.  Their minds work that way and will continue to work that way as long as they get away with it. Most all strong Republicans in these situations know the Democrats are telling lies, so they don’t become alarmed about it, but the Independents and the wavering Republicans don’t appear to handle the media bias as well as they should, so they quake a bit more when such crappola is presented as the truth by the mainstream media.  

    I know that this explanation doesn’t present a means or method of combating these lies, but it’s about as well as the Republican Party can do under the circumstances.  My suggestions it that all strong Republicans employ their Email Connector Groups in a way that allows the truth to become known to as many people who are willing to forward these emails to everyone on their email lists.  If that doesn’t do the job, then the Republican Party will continue to be screwed by both the Democratic Party and the mainstream media as long as the two groups are allowed to use each other as sounding boards or delivery merchants.

    I’m convinced that a great many more disatisfied voters are joining our Email Connector Groups on a daily or weekly basis than we orginally thought was possible.

    Dale Hogue authored the book “Email Connectors and Mr. Hogue’s Wisdom” in 2008.    

  • LHS

    Won’t happen. The ‘publican party is either:
    A. Nearly as dirty and/or culpable in this mess as the democraps, just further under the table or,
    B. A bunch of scaredy cat p*ssies.
    I subscribe to B. You cannot compromise and be courteous to a Godless bunch of weasels. (Hey, I toned down my initial rant; gimme some credit.)
    Watch the crybaby, boderline illegal, unconstitutional crap the libs pull when they lose in November. “Run away! Run away! Hide in a neighboring state. The sky is falling!”
    I used to be surprised at this fool’s’ errand, but now I am not only NOT amused, but will do all possible to knock the current DC squatters out.

  • LHS

    All the “evidence”, past history and any possibly embarrassing “friends” are locked
    up under presidential privilege, John. Get clue and get out more.

  • Anonymous

    TO MY CLOSEST
    FRIENDS AND RELATIVES-7/9/12

     

    To all those that care about the future of our country and
    what our children and grandchildren may have to overcome. Our nation and
    much of the western world as we know it is in dire straits—jobs, financial
    security, personal safety, etc. You all know too well what I mean.

     

    Leveraging and derivatives stemming from greed and power
    have us in a position whereby estimates show that the collateral (true value) vs
    the paper obligations that cover it weight in at an ungodly ratio (some
    estimates show 27 to 1). Bank loan criteria for years has been 10 to 1. Derivatives
    are new. Most all see no way that this nearly worthless paper can ever be paid.

     

    No easy answer is apparent. First thought is national
    bailout through “scrooging” the citizens. Note the situation in Greece
    where they have spent more than they can afford, Do you think we are any
    different?

     

    First thought is to hold the risk takers accountable—namely
    Central Banks (who should have been more closely regulated) and our Congress;
    OR, alternatively print money such as the Germans did in WW1 time
    period—remember those postage stamps in millions of marks.

     

    Instant, focused, and rapid regulation can stem the tide; as
    well as thrifty and wise spending. The Glass-Steagall Act that forbids banks
    from taking investment risks is the beginning. Europe
    now apparently sees it; but, not us as yet. Following normal bankruptcy laws
    would also be most helpful. The correction must be bi-partisan.

     

    I am aware of only one candidate for Congress who openly and
    aggressively advocates re-establishing Glass-Steagall; as well as ousting
    Obama. That person is a friend of mine who is running in the primary election
    for WA Congressional District 9.

     

    Dave is one of 6 national congressional candidates as part of
    the LaRouche Youth program. Activities and progress are reported on LaRouche
    PAC as are other issues arising from their worldwide network. I have found that
    their news breaks much earlier (week or more) than on the normal national media/news.

     

    I am as poor as they come as a retiree but I dug into my
    deep sock and committed $500 to help see him thru the primary election. I am
    asking that each of you think of the family future and dig into your sock also.
    Dave has an urgent need for this coming weekend. I vouch for his honesty and
    character. I do thank you for listening and your cooperation to save our nation
    as we have known it.

     

                NAME—Dave
    Christie for Congress

                Send Check
    to –

                                        17535 15th Ave NE                 From Ralph Johnson
    206-933–5755

                                        Shoreline WA  9815                                       cell     509-952-4103
     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HEOHJTO7UOGXI37CWRDMRG6BHY DurangoKid

    Whenever I see Gibbs being interviewed, I can’t help but think the only thing he is missing is one of those red foam-rubber noses…then he would be a COMPLETE clown!!

  • Anonymous

     What goes around comes around. Some how some way this will all come back on them and bite them in the XXX rear end. I get so sick of hearing the Obama team lies and I am sure many many many Americans are too.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t take to much more of this crap, I can’t even look or listen to him (O) on TV, radio, video’s, superpac’s nothing it’s as if there’s nothing there. Feels like the balloon has popped, it is no more,
    feels like that rotten piece of fruit still hanging from the tree that you look at everyday knowing that you should pick it off the tree and throw it in the trash but, you don’t you just keep picking around it and walking by it everyday, still feeling there may  be some life left in it
    (as in our country) but, once you know you pick it ….it’s dead for sure!
    I hope we can save our country….

    Sheriff Joe is coming out with BREAKING NEWS on July 17th and he says it will be shocking news what he has found out.  Let’s all pray and keep praying for Sheriff Joe that he will be ok and stay in good health. This country needs to hear the truth and this just might be the straw that broke the camels back.
    Breibart had some video’s for us but, you see what happened to him when he announced it so pray for Sheriff Joe, everyone please!

    Pray hard, Pray often, Pray that this country will find out who this person is before it’s to late and REALLY BE AWAKEN BY IT! 
    Pray it will be what should have been in 2008 learning who this person is and Pray that God see’s to it that he is removed not just not being re-elected but, removed by the authorities, and even better LORD, his friends along with him as well….PRAY, PRAY, PRAY, EVERYONE!

    I know we all want our country, our families, and our lives back, PRAY, PLEASE!

  • Anonymous

    I’m also curious how he gets access to classified material. I don’t see how he can pass a background investigation for a security clearance.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1575990121 Don Bergstrom

    YAAAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNNNNN

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HSJULSAVFJIJYR6PCTCUPMNXRA Take 2

    Is there a possible scenario
    of GOP grabbing decent leadership positioning in the “full” house…Obama is
    reelected-some smart person decides to write a book with access to College
    document(s)-Gun running implicates-Bad Green Corp procures some dope. Something
    surfaces on some action that removes you know who from second term… Crazy trainman
    Bidden becomes President with a GOP moving into Veep position.  

     

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t this just precious coming from a guy that sent 160,000 out of 240,000 auto jobs over seas.
    That is best buds with GE which has everything off shore to avoid taxes and got a huge refund.
    Even the Clinton’s have offshore accounts.

    Mitt pays millions each year in taxes. He gives millions each year to charities. I wonder how many Dems give that much.

    If I were rich, I would park my money offshore also, better returns, that is a smart man.
    The US is a killer for taxes.

    Rumor has it many surrounding that admin all have huge accounts in a foreign bank.
    Obama should be very careful which door he opens. He could shoot himself in the foot.

    Purposely lying about a decent man to gain votes is about as low as you can go. And it shows how desperate they are with platform.

  • Anonymous

    So it is okay for Jeffery Inmelt and GE to Park their money offshore and
    Purposely dodge paying taxes…and getting a huge refund?
    The Clinton have off shore accounts, many with money do.

    The money, if it is true that Mitt might have there might not be connected to business at all.
    Great place to put your savings, since US banks give nothing.

    You keep supporting Obama and we can hold you responsible for assisting in destroying this country. I choose to ride another horse, one with business experience.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, I think you hit the nail on the head.

  • Anonymous

    I think he is pointing out the fact how bad this administration is, for them to even mention it.
    If they keep on, they will shoot themselves in the foot.

  • Anonymous

     Not so Long Ago or Far away a Wise and Proud Republic was Formed by Honorable, and Brave, Men and Women. Who Forgot to Teach The Children the Values and Principles that made A Great Nation. Their Descendants Lacking the Guidance and Discipline to Resist Greed, Glitter, and Ignorance. Fell Prey to the Lying, Well Spoken Ones, who Stole Their Birth Rights. The Lying Well Spoken Ones, In their Arrogance, and through their own Self-Righteousness, and Greed Destroyed That Very Nation and the Republic for which it Stood.
       Is This A Fairy Tale??    Is Ignorance Really Bliss??   IS IT TO LATE??
    After Years of Over Consumption of Ignorance fed to us (Here In The United States of America) By Liberals, and Conservatives, alike Most People are Lacking the Very Ability to Understand Any True Reality.
    Can We LEARN From the PAST? or Will We BECOME IT?

  • Anonymous

     Have You Hugged a Hard Core LIBERAL Lately? You have to Feel Bad For Them!  Their Sitting on the Ocean Bottom Trying to Bail Out a Sunken Ship wondering where everyone else went, and listening to Captain “OH-Well” telling Them everything is fine as long as he is In Charge, while he wears Scuba Gear & Air Tanks. We Must remember their Mental Handicaps are not their fault! Bush, the Tea Party, Congress, Romney & the GOP, must have Caused their Lack of Mental Ability, and Captain “OH-Well” on the Good Ship “The Berry Fine” is REALLY HELPING THEM! He Will BUY BIGGER Bailing Buckets For them! (As long as he is Allowed to be Spending Americas Money and Not His Own) Come here You Cuddly Little Liberals We Have Big Hugs & Kisses For You

  • Anonymous

     The President is losing the Support of his Base, because of  Buyer Remorse??  WHY?  He Promised Fundamental Change and is Delivering it! Are You Ready to Vote in 2012?  Answer this Competence Question to find Out! Test Yourself Now Reed More…

    “A well Spoken Stranger on the Street tells you they wish to Fundamentally Change your Personal and Financial Life. They hand you papers that read; Complete & Full Power of Attorney. Then they asks you for All Your Financial & Personal Information along with your Signature.”  What do You do?  DO YOU;
    (A)  Laugh Hysterically and Walk Away.
    (B)  Quickly Fill out All Your Personal Information including Bank Account  Numbers, Sign the Document, then give them Your Car and House Keys.  
    (C)  Ask Them if this is a TV Show, and where is the Camera located?
    (D)  Tell them You were Born at Night But Not Last Night.

    If You answered A, C, or D You may be capable of Voting in this 2012 Election.
    However if You answered B You must Immediately check Yourself into the Nearest Psychiatric Facility, as You May Be a Danger to Yourself or Others.
        Now Grade Yourself!
    Thumbs UP if You Answered Correctly, Down If You are a Hopeless Idiot! *

    * NOTICE: Don’t Be afraid to Thumbs Down if you are Un-Able to Comprehend Reality, Because, Sadly Many Americans Have Lost That Ability! You May also Thumbs Down if You are a paid Political Prostitute and Need to get your Money.

  • Anonymous

    You might call Mitt greedy, but he is one of the most generous people out there.
    He also saved our pitiful, corrupted Olympics and our face, free of charge.
    He was Governor, free of charge.
    He gave all his money he received from his father to charity.
    He spent thousands trying to find a friends runaway daughter within hours of her almost dying, all on his own dime.
    When Bain got into financial difficulty after he left, they called him back for help, he went back, free of charge.

    I call that a Presidential worthy man with scruples and integrity.

  • Anonymous

    They worship to the double standard Gods.

  • Anonymous

    Until he started running for office he only donated around .o5% a year. Same with Biden now. .07%. I don’t think either one of them has a right to talk about someone else’s money.
    Pelosi’s worth increased by 67% in one year from her insider trading.

    People should cast stones, it could come back and smack them between the eyes.

  • Anonymous

    Mark Levin’s show 7-5-2012 is a great show explains where Axelrod came from and how this agenda works. Worth he listen, it is early in the program.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Romney outsourced jobs as governor too. However….

    Never mind those W. Mitt Romney signatures on documents between 1999 and 2001, right?If we accept Factcheck’s conclusions, then we should also accept that Mitt Romney signed off on plant closures and offshoring jobs without knowing what he was signing because he was so busy with the Olympics.Or we can simply accept that he did know what was happening and didn’t care or pay enough attention to it to care.Either way, it doesn’t change the underlying claim. Bain Capital, while under Mitt Romney’s leadership, closed plants and sent jobs to Mexico, China, India and elsewhere. Whether or not Romney was active or passive is irrelevant — his name was on the door.Consider their argument in the context of a sitting United States President. Are we supposed to believe Mitt Romney would not be responsible for some official government act because he was paying attention to some other government thing and so the failure of that government thing that affected real people was simply not his fault because the other government thing succeeded?http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/romneys-desperate-need-counterspin-captures 

  • Anonymous

     That was my thought exactly when I read Gibb’s reply.  Just LOVE the double standard!

  • http://twitter.com/Snuffy_Joe Joe Snuffy

    In this case, we must all consider the Source – Gibbs and the Socialists. The won’t talk about how many jobs Romney’s companies have created.
    Why hasn’t anyone started talking about Obama’s attacks on the Coal and Oil industries? How many coal jobs has Obama done away with?  How many coal burning (least expensive way to make electricity other than Hydro) electricity generation plants has Obama and his EPA radicals shut down?
    Romney needs to step up his game or he is going to be left standing at the gate. He needs to start referring to Obama AS A SOCIALIST and an enemy of our Constitutional form of government.  He needs to identify BO as a destroyer of personal freedoms and a destroyer of our economy. 
    Romney needs to take lessons from Gov. Christie on how to deal with Obama’s attacks. 

    We the People need to hedge our bets by making absolutely sure that we dump as many Socialists OUT of our Congress as possible in this upcoming election.  We need a GOP majority in both the house and Senate. That way, if Obama does happen to win, we can override his vetos, and we can impeach him.  We can’t do either of these now.

  • Anonymous

    Nov. can’t happen soon enough.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VREOYTHWF3TIRYGSBAO4R7PFZA fairy dust

    THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    SO clearly you didn’t read my comment, No I don’t believe its morally and patriotically to exile your taxes, whoever you are.  Its an Ethical debate rather than a legal one. I think Reagan actually made a lot of these provision and loop holes.

    Where in my post did I say I supported Obama?  I just don’t believe that its right to put Profits before People, thats certainly not the “Christain” thing to do.  Mitt Romney really, he agreed with nearly everything Obama put forward until it wasn’t “cool” anymore.  That guy folds too easy and has no backbone.  Imagine him going up against Putin, Putin will eat him alive.

    Just because I post a disagree to a statement that Beck makes doesn’t make me an Obama supporter, socialist, Muslim, Marxist or plenty of other things I’ve been called on here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Allan/707974764 Gary Allan

    you liberals should be ashamed of yourselves.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simms.5602 Mike Simms

    Please remind people that Obama has not released his college transcripts etc. So much for transparency, but the liberal media insists that Romney must release all his tax returns……etc PLEASE counter these lack of transparencies, also fast and furious, etc. There are too many to mention.

  • Anonymous

    Question is obama WhiteHouse & his sneaky U.S attorney general pulling another slight of hand trick ???  By their timing of putting out a spotlight catcher to shift focus and blame off Attorney General program of Fast and Furious and their coverup attempts ??? They are doing this now by putting out the spotlight catcher  of FBI  one million reward for 5 Fugitives  wanted in border agent murder case shift more blame and focus on fugitives ????  Why now ? timing ?  could the reward been  put out a year  ago ??????  Maybe two purpose one purpose to really catch the fugitives and 2nd purpose I’m very suspicious of the timing  ????????  The Reward was put out today July 10,2012 !!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TLHGEQIFUVNYOXWJTPFGBWIOII Rachel Rao

    If people have not read this article, they need to do so. This explain the why of doubling down on lies and mistruths. If said often enough it becomes believable, even by degreed educated peoplehttp://www.westernjournalism.com/how-obama-literally-hypnotized-america-part-1/
    and then read the article in the Dallas Morning News of this morning - Opinion page entitled:
    “Teaching Taco Bell anon” by James Courter, and be shocked by the level of education being taught in our highest universities.
    Remember a lie told often enough can become true for many……….

  • CaptainAmerica

    Shill for Obama – public beware. This “Republican” isn’t really what he claims, and his word is worthless. He is a habitual liar, has a police record and should not be trusted. His big solution for climate change on another thread is – ARTIFICIAL TREES!

    “I stand by the need for artificial trees, and they’re not “planted.”

  • Anonymous

    Why not put out the reward much earlier ,maybe it would have drawn more attention to U.S attorney general fail program of Fast and Furious and his attempts of coverup ????  Now use this spotlight catcher to shift focus off attorney general part in Fast and Furious and his coverup ???? Plus a sneaky way to pass more stricter gun laws on individuals and guns stores to take the fall or blame when it was U.S government under obama directions supplying guns to Mexicans drugs thugs !!!!

  • Daune McCulloch

    The Republican regime, as you so loudly put it, is not running or campaigning on the claim that Obama is a Muslim or that he is not a U.S. citizen. Loosen up before you have a heart attack. Stick to the facts and Obama is running on false ads and bold face lies.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ABWG7LDK2VX23KWINRPMN6YBWM NotMyFault

    “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.” 

    We would all do well to read (or re-read) that book. 

  • Anonymous

    The real question has nothing to do with outsourcing but WHY WOULD PEOPLE OUTSOURCE!  Hmm… let me see? maybe high taxes and succeeding as a business that is not government and union controlled?  Only idiots that know nothing about business would fall into the trap they are setting making it about outsourcing instead of taxes!!  Great plan to tax companies so much that they move jobs where there is less of a tax burden then accuse them of “outsourcing.” Just Create the problem then blame everyone else then “penalize” them when they are trying to make it as a business.  Who needs jobs anyway?  Now they are going to penalize companies that outsource because of the taxes that they impose with another tax/penalty? brilliant?  Sounds more and more like slavery to me.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N7SY7RD7SIBAUJGCAW22ATJY6I Joyce S

    What about GE moving one of its plants to China, with the understanding that they will educate and train at least 500 engineers, ask the people in Wisconsin about this

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/U35MMIBYX6QYFOYTBWDBXC47DM Julie

    We need to put the Bible back into the schools. Look at the big picture.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Barry-Levy/1091577549 Barry Levy

    and a social security card and draft card

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HSJULSAVFJIJYR6PCTCUPMNXRA Take 2

    Our Grandparents era allowed the use of “VOLUNTARY” Tax with (“assessments”) PENALTIES to avoid the Individuals rights under the Constitution. It was wrong then and Justice Roberts KNOWS its wrong today.  Roberts had to save the Union from past BIG Governing miscues against its own peoples, hence avoided reversing Fed Income TAX  SS TAX etc., all Voluntary with assessment and mega Penalties similar to Health Care Law.

    These past Voluntary TAX with assessment and Penalties i.e. miscues are deeply woven into America’s economic system needing modernized. The dog pilling of a Federal Health Care TAX with assessment and Penalties will eventually sky rocket the Federal Bankruptcy Courts.

  • Anonymous

    Claiming? He was born a Muslim and went to a school run by Muslims. The fact is “John” It is Nobama, the campaigner-in-chief, that has not provided any evidence to the contrary. His stab at forging a birth certificate was a joke! What isn’t a joke is the way he has sycophants like you to help peddle his garbage.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Marks/1266358046 Paul Marks

    This goes to the top  – this campaign of lies is from Barack Obama himself. The media are helpless because they tied themselves to this man – and, partly, for a RACIST reason “we must have a black President”. Also because they thought Obama was like them – a “liberal” (what Europeans call a Social Democrat), Barack Obama is not a such a person, he is a radical (a Frankfurt School Cultural Marxist) – but the media can not admit that, any more than they can admit he is a bad man (guilty of endless lying and vileness). They can not admit any of it – because they tied themselves to him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Marks/1266358046 Paul Marks

    This goes to the top  – this campaign of lies is from Barack Obama himself. The media are helpless because they tied themselves to this man – and, partly, for a RACIST reason “we must have a black President”. Also because they thought Obama was like them – a “liberal” (what Europeans call a Social Democrat), Barack Obama is not a such a person, he is a radical (a Frankfurt School Cultural Marxist) – but the media can not admit that, any more than they can admit he is a bad man (guilty of endless lying and vileness). They can not admit any of it – because they tied themselves to him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Here’s what this liar (by omission) left out:

    “We need to mass produce and deploy artificial trees and plant as many real trees as possible. Now.

    We need to convert the transportation sector to hydrogen fuel. Now. In Europe, hydrogen is used to fuel some race cars. Hydrogen can be extracted from water (H2O) by electrolysis using a battery, and therefore cars can run by putting water in the fuel tank and employing a fuel cell. Trucks, planes and trains can all do the same.

    We need to rapidly accelerate conservation measures in transportation, heating and AC. Now.

    We need to convert the electrical grid to solar, wind and nuclear power ASAP.

    We need to capture and store carbon using all available technologies and develop better ones. Now.

    And yes, we need to prepare for rising oceans because if we were able to make this energy transformation in five years, it’s way too late to stop SOME of what’s coming. Now. ”
    Regarding the artificial trees:
    http://knowledge.allianz.com/climate/science/?1580/carbon-capture-artificial-trees-suck-co2-from-air 
    Captain America needs to change his handle to Captain Deception.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Here’s what this liar (by omission) left out:

    “We need to mass produce and deploy artificial trees and plant as many real trees as possible. Now.

    We need to convert the transportation sector to hydrogen fuel. Now. In Europe, hydrogen is used to fuel some race cars. Hydrogen can be extracted from water (H2O) by electrolysis using a battery, and therefore cars can run by putting water in the fuel tank and employing a fuel cell. Trucks, planes and trains can all do the same.

    We need to rapidly accelerate conservation measures in transportation, heating and AC. Now.

    We need to convert the electrical grid to solar, wind and nuclear power ASAP.

    We need to capture and store carbon using all available technologies and develop better ones. Now.

    And yes, we need to prepare for rising oceans because if we were able to make this energy transformation in five years, it’s way too late to stop SOME of what’s coming. Now. ”
    Regarding the artificial trees:
    http://knowledge.allianz.com/climate/science/?1580/carbon-capture-artificial-trees-suck-co2-from-air 
    Captain America needs to change his handle to Captain Deception.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany
  • new2la

    Imagine the number of people that are involved in the lie on both sides. This can not go down with the involment of many.

  • Anonymous

    You’re missing my point, I don’t know enough about what you just told me to judge whether or not he’s greedy…What I want you to grasp from my previous comment is that whether or not ANY RICH PERSON IS GREEDY EVER, if they are greedy with their own property, it’s nobody’s business. To criticize a man for taking care of his own money is rooted in self-loathing. Have a good day glenn47.

  • Anonymous

    You’re missing my point, I don’t know enough about what you just told me to judge whether or not he’s greedy…What I want you to grasp from my previous comment is that whether or not ANY RICH PERSON IS GREEDY EVER, if they are greedy with their own property, it’s nobody’s business. To criticize a man for taking care of his own money is rooted in self-loathing. Have a good day glenn47.

  • CaptainAmerica

    I left in what needed to be left in for everyone to see you are a crackpot lunatic, mister artificial forest nut.

  • CaptainAmerica

    I left in what needed to be left in for everyone to see you are a crackpot lunatic, mister artificial forest nut.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Actually, this is what I posted – it contains verbatim every point you made pre-edit of your original idiotic post – read it and weep, moron because your attempt here failed, pathological liar and criminal:

    “This is the most important issue of our era.” ??? “We need to mass produce and deploy artificial trees” ??? ”
    We need to convert the transportation sector to hydrogen fuel. Now. ” ??? ”
    We need to rapidly accelerate conservation measures in transportation, heating and AC. Now.” ??? ”
    We need to convert the electrical grid to solar, wind and nuclear power ASAP.” ??? ”
    We need to capture and store carbon using all available technologies and develop better ones. Now.” ??? ”
    we need to prepare for rising oceans because if we were able to make this energy transformation in five years, it’s way too late to stop SOME of what’s coming. Now.” ??? ”
    we need to get Republican and Democratic representatives out of Congress this year, in 2014 and again in 2016.” ???
    WHY? Because some tree huggers say so? Artificial trees? REALLY? Do you have any idea how much petrochemicals are used in making artificial trees? Do artificial trees contribute to the environment by taking in carbon dioxide or producing oxygen? What the hell are you talking about? You started with that and went downhill afterward. All of your, “needs”, are based on a flawed and manipulated set of data – the scientists that started this admitted to the world that they altered the stats a few years ago, and for a few die- hards like you it is still the accepted view. They fudged the numbers for MONEY – grants to allow them to live a life they had become accustomed to – taking government money and making up lies that no one could determine were lies. You and a handful – world population wise – swallowed the bait hook, line, and sinker, and lo and behold here you are with the policies the world MUST adopt or face extinction. You are such a dope! You’ve been hoodwinked into believing the manipulative efforts of a bunch of left wing academics who have been long discredited, but you think you are their intellectual equal and the world must bow to your might and bluster…. What do I hear but a chorus of crickets after your pronouncements and demands? Nothing.
    Your simplistic understanding of fuel cell technology is laughable. Do you know how much electricity is needed to produce hydrogen from water? The infrastructure costs are prohibitive, that is why hydrogen by electrolysis hasn’t gone anywhere. Your reliance on hydrogen as a fuel is ignorant of history. Have you ever heard of the Hindenburg? The Nazis didn’t have helium to keep their dirigible fleet airborne, and so they used hydrogen and we all know what happened as a result.
    The electrical grid is already using solar, nuclear and wind power. The reason we don’t have more of those power sources in operation is because of people who don’t want to be in sight of solar arrays, wind farms and nuclear power plants. These sources also don’t pay for themselves and require maintenance like any other man made power technology. You can’t ignore the economics of the issue – it’s one thing to want something, and entirely another to pay for it. It’s the economy, STUPID!
    You can start conservation at home right now by de-installing your AC and heating systems, so why haven’t you disabled them already. YOU can diminish your use of electrical power by turning all your house lights off, and not watching TV, listening to radio, shutting your refrigerator/freezer down and eating only fresh foods, and using a PC and Internet access. I suggest you try living in the 1800s and see how that works for you.
    For a progressive, you sure aren’t very “progressive”. Nature is progressing all the time, and the folly of mankind is in his efforts to control it. Solar flares that we are subjected to right now – check the internet – contribute more to climate change than mankind. It’s a fact that the sun has more to do with climate than any other single influence in the universe.
    Artificial trees! What a dope you are! HAhahahahahahahahahaha!
    Looks like you are already capable of kissing your own ass. Well done.

    Oh, I almost forgot – your fake forest is a pipe dream and the trees don’t exist in reality. It is a theoretical article you linked to, and even if we wanted a falsified forest right now it couldn’t be done because of that fact, and the fact that no one can calculate the cost or acquire the land rights to install them.

    Did a fake tree fall on your head?

  • CaptainAmerica

    Actually, this is what I posted – it contains verbatim every point you made pre-edit of your original idiotic post – read it and weep, moron because your attempt here failed, pathological liar and criminal:

    “This is the most important issue of our era.” ??? “We need to mass produce and deploy artificial trees” ??? ”
    We need to convert the transportation sector to hydrogen fuel. Now. ” ??? ”
    We need to rapidly accelerate conservation measures in transportation, heating and AC. Now.” ??? ”
    We need to convert the electrical grid to solar, wind and nuclear power ASAP.” ??? ”
    We need to capture and store carbon using all available technologies and develop better ones. Now.” ??? ”
    we need to prepare for rising oceans because if we were able to make this energy transformation in five years, it’s way too late to stop SOME of what’s coming. Now.” ??? ”
    we need to get Republican and Democratic representatives out of Congress this year, in 2014 and again in 2016.” ???
    WHY? Because some tree huggers say so? Artificial trees? REALLY? Do you have any idea how much petrochemicals are used in making artificial trees? Do artificial trees contribute to the environment by taking in carbon dioxide or producing oxygen? What the hell are you talking about? You started with that and went downhill afterward. All of your, “needs”, are based on a flawed and manipulated set of data – the scientists that started this admitted to the world that they altered the stats a few years ago, and for a few die- hards like you it is still the accepted view. They fudged the numbers for MONEY – grants to allow them to live a life they had become accustomed to – taking government money and making up lies that no one could determine were lies. You and a handful – world population wise – swallowed the bait hook, line, and sinker, and lo and behold here you are with the policies the world MUST adopt or face extinction. You are such a dope! You’ve been hoodwinked into believing the manipulative efforts of a bunch of left wing academics who have been long discredited, but you think you are their intellectual equal and the world must bow to your might and bluster…. What do I hear but a chorus of crickets after your pronouncements and demands? Nothing.
    Your simplistic understanding of fuel cell technology is laughable. Do you know how much electricity is needed to produce hydrogen from water? The infrastructure costs are prohibitive, that is why hydrogen by electrolysis hasn’t gone anywhere. Your reliance on hydrogen as a fuel is ignorant of history. Have you ever heard of the Hindenburg? The Nazis didn’t have helium to keep their dirigible fleet airborne, and so they used hydrogen and we all know what happened as a result.
    The electrical grid is already using solar, nuclear and wind power. The reason we don’t have more of those power sources in operation is because of people who don’t want to be in sight of solar arrays, wind farms and nuclear power plants. These sources also don’t pay for themselves and require maintenance like any other man made power technology. You can’t ignore the economics of the issue – it’s one thing to want something, and entirely another to pay for it. It’s the economy, STUPID!
    You can start conservation at home right now by de-installing your AC and heating systems, so why haven’t you disabled them already. YOU can diminish your use of electrical power by turning all your house lights off, and not watching TV, listening to radio, shutting your refrigerator/freezer down and eating only fresh foods, and using a PC and Internet access. I suggest you try living in the 1800s and see how that works for you.
    For a progressive, you sure aren’t very “progressive”. Nature is progressing all the time, and the folly of mankind is in his efforts to control it. Solar flares that we are subjected to right now – check the internet – contribute more to climate change than mankind. It’s a fact that the sun has more to do with climate than any other single influence in the universe.
    Artificial trees! What a dope you are! HAhahahahahahahahahaha!
    Looks like you are already capable of kissing your own ass. Well done.

    Oh, I almost forgot – your fake forest is a pipe dream and the trees don’t exist in reality. It is a theoretical article you linked to, and even if we wanted a falsified forest right now it couldn’t be done because of that fact, and the fact that no one can calculate the cost or acquire the land rights to install them.

    Did a fake tree fall on your head?

  • http://twitter.com/Yode75 Randy Yoder

    (not so) BREAKING NEWS!!!!

    Obama supported and invested hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars in a company that over the past 40 years has, directly and indirectly, been responsible for exporting hundreds of thousands of high paying US jobs to offshore interests. This was done to keep said company from failing from its own bungling inefficiencies while usurping the rights and investments of private individuals/funds who owned preferred stock in the company.

    Yes….General Motors has been one of the largest exporters/destroyers of high paid US jobs in the history of US business.  At least Romney used privately invested capital instead of taxpayer “contributions”.

  • Anonymous

    Hats off to the biggest dupes in the world ,speaking of the blind dumb union workers who follow their union leaders,obama,democrat party like blind dumb sheep !   Ya I know medical cost going up and some companies may drop medical coverage for some of the workers ,but  congress and obama had time to resolve the problem, did nothing!!! Now obama care when pass in congress was twice as much the cost to what employer were paying at the time,but that was found to be a false figure  now the truths coming out it be three to four times the cost to employer ,you can call it obama hyperdrive  in unions workers losing their cherish free or low cost medical benefits and all employers will drop all employee and pay the low cost fine ,it be left up to individual to pay for own his medical insurance at a far greater cost by himself for far less service and ration care ,plus these compainies waivers will expire after elections. I say one thing that obama sure took you to the cleaners and you were a bunch of big suckers swallow obama BS line ,hook,line and sinker !!!!!  Let say obama rob you  of your hard earn medical benefit to share with the don’t care to work crowd and illegals it obama way of buying votes at your expense !!

  • sparducks

    Here here. No animal shall  drink alcohol. To excess.

  • sparducks

    Here here. No animal shall  drink alcohol. To excess.

  • Anonymous

    do you realize that if romney defeats obama he will inherit a bigger mess than the one bush left? perhaps he will be man enough to admit his failures if he is unable to get us out of this economic disaster.

  • Anonymous

    do you realize that if romney defeats obama he will inherit a bigger mess than the one bush left? perhaps he will be man enough to admit his failures if he is unable to get us out of this economic disaster.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HSJULSAVFJIJYR6PCTCUPMNXRA Take 2

    To the NEW BLAZE news rouémmmm…  The Voluntary Health Care TAX Law assessment and PENALTY will snowball on millions of Americans… They will get additional Tax code collection variations-The percentage will end up equal to the 25% rule used in or for Income Tax assessment and collection codes.  America needs huge Medical cost reform but Unfortunately, Bankruptcies will increase ten fold with FORCED Obama Care.  Do you really think they  will “only” go after Income Tax over payment monies?  You need to hit this with a HUGE Sledgehammer.

  • Anonymous

    I have never heard so much hatred being ‘preached’ by anyone in such a position, such as Obama and his staffers, and I think it is so sad that so many are uninformed and uneducated to what is really happening in this country.  Our leaders are delivering us into something we would not otherwise wish for.  When these people are cornered, such as with this interview being discussed right now, they simply spin and spin.  It is sad.  Beck is correct, they don’t think the truth matters and they don’t care.  

  • Anonymous

    One more thin from me a first timer on this blog.  I am still so concerned our nation will look past an association this man had with domestic terrorists. Obama to Ayers. Yet Romney has an association to a financial group trying to hold a company together, and it’s basically lied about and used to keep the masses at bay.  Beck states we have to do more than have a response (opinion) and begin a new path.  How can we do this when the liberal machine is into everything?  

  • Anonymous

    He added the “plant real trees” in an edit after he caught so much flack the first day of his post. He’s lying to cover his stupidity…as IF he can cover THAT up!

  • Anonymous

    Good job! He’s still trying to walk back this comment on Alternet and lie his way out of the edit. He’s too stupid for words.

  • Anonymous

    Would be great to SEE ANY evidence of obama’s birth. Only thing is,,,,,he will not provide any evidence that is not FORGED. There is an evil thing going on concerning obama’a background, atleast that is what I believe, so far I see him only as a poser that is constantly lying about everything he talks about. Hell he has not proved his birth certificate to be real to anyone. A muslim? A socialist? A marxist? U.S. born? Uphold the Constitution as he swore he would do? Is he an effective leader? I know the answers to my last two comments. NO and NO. He has no plan to help this country to prosper only to fail. It was his predestined future to hold the title of “President” of the United States and to bring Her to Her knees as much as possible in at least one term and possibly a second term. He was well groomed for the job. Most every bit of personal information on this man is secret concerning his past. Here we have a person who will not show a valid birth certificate but his side is calling for Romney’s tax returns for certain years. What moron of a U.S. citizen cannot see the BS in that alone? I have lost TOTAL faith in the government that I served until my retirement from the military in 1994. All of God’s Americans must pray that God will once again Bless this country that He provided for us many years ago. Countless agendas have tried to destroy this country many times over but somehow America has prevailed and I pray She will prevail over a worthless government that has tried time and time again to bring Her to her knees. 

  • Anonymous

    Very well put bert28! I like the way you think, brother.

  • Anonymous

    If the shoe fits (and there is plenty of evidence, you all just choose to ignore it)

  • CaptainAmerica

    Well, I try to be as complete in challenging his bullcrap when I see a new load of it. He forgot that I posted nearly his entire post earlier, and that included the part he said I omitted. He just may be the dumbest troll on the internet.

  • CaptainAmerica

    He is unable to tell the truth, being a pathological liar. He’s so ignorant and blind to his own antic that he believes this tactic works. You can read it in his posts. He will never admit failure because a narcissist can’t own failure or admit lying to cover it up – they just hurl insults and threats at the person who reveals their errors. Just like he always does.

  • Anonymous

    What does it say about this administration when they don’t care about the truth? What does it say about citizens that don’t check their facts, but simply accept the lies?

  • Anonymous

    …and the BIGGEST liar!

  • Anonymous

    I doubt he’ll hang around here to attack while the topic is current. He’s been called out and is hiding until most of the regulars are gone. Then he’ll comeback in a couple of weeks to hyjack the topic.

  • CaptainAmerica

    What amazes me is there are still a few people who will try to defend him – maybe it’s part of the leftist indoctrination to have to defend the man who has no credibility on either side of the fence. I wonder if they have to wear pledge pins and skinny-dip in the campus fish pond too?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3M55VDSFF3SUPJALADU5N22KE TT

    What Mitt Romney should be asking is:
    You really want four more years of Solyndras? four more years of payouts to the big thuggish unions? how bout just letting the Supreme court speak for him! Barack Obama is the president that LIED and LIED and continues to pathologically LIE about the Obama Care…Do we as Americans want another four more years of TRILLION $ deficits? 
    how bout another “mandate” of 1.7 TRILLION $ in taxes? That is what I call “signature”; a 1.7 TRILLION $ legacy of crap on us, the American workers.

  • Sandie

    That is a load of BS

  • Sandie

    Not proof he was running it.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Proof you and your talkingpointsmemo.com’s Josh Marshall are openly lying:

    “Romney took a leave of absence in February 1999 to head the Salt Lake City Organizing Committee for the 2002 Winter Olympics, and he did not return to the company. He became governor of Massachusetts in January 2003″
    http://factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-outsourcer-overreach/

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    “…There’s no evidence here that any of the fact check organizations have found that, A, he outsourced jobs or was president of Bain when that happened….”

    WRONG!

    Beck will not correct this, but I will. 

    http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2012/07/12/government_documents_indicate_mitt_romney_continued_at_bain_after_date_when_he_says_he_left/ 

    And there’s this:

    http://duanegraham.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/is-romney-a-felon-or-will-obama-have-to-apologize/

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany
  • Anonymous

    I meant Romney is like Hank Rearden, not Gibbs.

  • Guest

    The funny thing is just a couple days ago you claimed to see Obama’s lies but deferred to only focusing on Beck. Now you’re pursuing Romney. Why are you ignoring Obama again?

  • Guest

    The funny thing is just a couple days ago you claimed to see Obama’s lies but deferred to only focusing on Beck. Now you’re pursuing Romney. Why are you ignoring Obama again?

  • Guest

    The funny thing is just a couple days ago you claimed to see Obama’s lies but deferred to only focusing on Beck. Now you’re pursuing Romney. Why are you ignoring Obama again?

  • Anonymous

    WHERE WILL YOU BE

    If you get all you want and it all comes to pass.
    Who will be the first in line and who will be the last?

    If you choke all big Business by burdens far too great.
    Who will make the Widgets and money that you take?

    A fact about a Government of any style or ilk.
    There are those that wear fine cloth and those that weave the silk.

    Just where do you see yourself in the order that will be?
    Are you some how special?
    300 million just like me.

    Watashi’s thoughts

  • Anonymous

    Obama is running for the United Nations not America. Every speech he has given is about social issues that are plainly spelled out in the UN Charters first two pages. It’s not that he just wants America to be socialist he wants the U.N.  to be the one world government. If you don;t get it by now we are all doomed.

  • Anonymous

    Who are you attacking here? Romney? Or Beck? and Why? You claim to be a Republican and yet you are undermining Romney to prove Beck wrong?

    Your a lying lunatic and hypocrite.

  • SoThere

    Vicky’s never been a Republican. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

  • Anonymous

    You want to argue about Romney’s transparency? Prove it. Let’s see the documents, not just an article that says Romney isn’t transparent.

    Then we can go head to head against Barry and his not so transparent administration hiding behind Executive Privilege, National Security leaks and sealed college and medical records.

    Not only are you WRONG, but you’re STUPID!

  • Anonymous

    He posted in one of his bios that he is a “Lincolnian Republican.” But the hypocrite in him denies it. He also denies being a Democratic Socialist, too, but attends the DSA meetings. He also says he’s an Occupy Ithaca leader, but also works for a Fortune 500 business as an acting VP. His head is so far up his but he doesn’t know whether to poop tears or cry sh!t.

    So you tell me. Does anyone really know what ol’ Vic, the Sanduskyman, Tiffanny really is? Does he?

  • SoThere

    He’s no more a “Lincolnian Republican” than Obama’s a Christian.

    He’s pure Socialist and they will say anything to pull the wool over peoples eyes.

    Vicky’s a Marxist Socialist who lives in a world of lies and deceit.

    Oh, and he’s a sick little man with an unhealthy fixation on Glenn Beck.
    Anything to destroy our way of life and install Marxist rule under the banner of Liberal Progressivism. [sic]

  • Anonymous

    I agree! You know that. I know that. And so do a few others. But Vicky doesn’t have the self-awareness to know it. He will die lying his way out of every comment he’s made if it serves his purpose. He also says he’s a Deist, but will pull Christianity out of his hat to smear his opposition.

    He’s a molester and rapist, in the literary sense.

  • http://twitter.com/recruitercarol carol weathers

    use a white board for the Ben franklin close.  Pros and cons. Mitt will win. What is Obama’s 

    work experience as versus mitts.  Put it in an ad .  How many companies has Obama run
    as versus mitt.  Where is Obama’s experience to run the country if he never even ran a state
    or a successful company.  When he brings up outsourcing, bring up taxes and cost of doing
    business here.  The companies job is to make a profit and if we punish the profits they
    will make have to outsource to make profit and pay employees or close down. Directly confront and combat his ad with answers.  Point out the lies.  He does not respect the office he is holding but expects everyone that is asking questions not to confront him on his accusations. Do it or nobody else will.  Put in writing the points that will change the country forever with the changes that bookcases will bring.  Quote the lies and consequences of what is about to take place if we don’t get out and protest  like many of the groups do cause action and highlight the major points of changes coming.  Last but not least-who ever heard of passing a law before you read it.  This is the dumbest statement the was ever made.  Do you not read the contract before buying a car or a house.  Do you just blindly sign that you will be responsible for committing to pay for it over many years and not reading the fine print.  Whatever happened to the buyer beware clause. How can a person that makes a really stupid statement be in charge of any leadership for a country and expect respect from the people and expect us to follow her off the cliff. Why do we even need congress if they are not going to read and debate the merits of the bill.
    I still can’t believe they did that.  The first clue was that it was 2000 pages long and they were not given months to read it.  What about transparency  on the internet for 5 days for the public to read before voting on the bill.  Bring up that clip that was on tv.
    mad about it……………..

  • http://twitter.com/recruitercarol carol weathers

    if it is not a tax then how come the IRS is in charge and isn’t that what their department is in charge of. What is the point of getting the court to make the final

    decision when they dispute the answer yet they asked for them to make the final decision.
    if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. Wake up and smell the coffee……

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Why are you ignoring Romney’s lies?

    Answer that, and then explain why you’re a racist.

    http://www.secondclassjustice.com/?p=69 

  • Anonymous

    Wonder if he’s a Muslim, too? Sharia Law and “will say anything to pull the wool over people’s eyes.” It fits.

  • Anonymous

    Same reason you ignore yours and Barry’s. Except Romney isn’t lying.

    Leftwing libtards like you will lie about anything to win your jihad against the US!

    All you do is smear and lie.

    You’re a hypocrite, Sanduskyman.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    I’ve never been Vicky, so the last laugh is on you moron!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    So you accuse me of being a “lying lunatic” and then smear me as a child molester. You really don’t understand what hypocrisy is, do you?

    I never wrote that I’m “an Occupy Ithaca leader” either.

    I give out bits and pieces of information about me, and you morons put the picture together like a bunch of children assembling a puzzle for the first time.

    You need to understand, not that you give a crap, that there are progressive Republicans out here, and we don’t like the regressive ideas of Mitt Romney, plutocrat and vulture capitalist.

    Lincoln was progressive before there was a progressive movement. Abolishing slavery was progressive. Progressivism is not “Marxist Socialism,” no matter how many times Beck tells that lie. We believe in a mixed economy and in solving problems, problems USUALLY  created by corporate greed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Newsflash: Romney was a vulture capitalist, just like his Republican opponents accused him of during the primary debates. Romney outsources American jobs:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/bain-capital-mitt-romney-outsourcing-china-global-tech 

    Romney will raise your taxes and decreasing his and Beck’s. You are a tool of the 1%.

  • Anonymous

    OH, Yes you are Vicky<2!!! And everyone knows it, Sanduskyman. Everyone is Laughing at YOU, the flaming queen who is the joke of all internet TROLLS.

  • Anonymous

    More lies and bullsh!t from the Internet Troll Network’s Anchorman hypocrite. You are so pathetically transparent.

    Note to VT: Beck doesn’t tell me anything. AND NEITHER DO YOU!!! 

    You’re not a progressive. You are a delusional socialist without a moral compass or ethical roadmap.

    Look in the mirror and tell yourself the same crap you try to pass off here. No one here believes your propaganda lies.

    You lost your credibility at “Hellur”, Sanduskyman.

  • Anonymous

    YOU are the 1% Fool. You said you were acting VP of a Fortune 500 company! I bet the Ithaca Occupoopers in the church parking lot are just loving you now!!!

    Don’t come here touting lies about Romney when you can’t pick the lies out of Barry’s past or your own for that matter. 

    BARRY HAS RAISED OUR TAXES WITH THE BIGGEST FRAUD OF A HEALTHCARE PACKAGE! 

    BARRY HAS ALREADY OUTSOURCED OUR JOBS TO BRAZIL, FINLAND AND CHINA!!! 

    Quit peddling your lies and propaganda here, Sanduskyman. No one’s buying it.

  • SoThere

    Right! Vicky.

  • Anonymous

    So, you don’t have a good reason, let alone any reason, right?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Republicans Agree That Mitt Romney Needs to Come Clean

    It’s not just people on the left who are concerned about Mitt Romney’s outsourcing of American jobs at Bain Capital, his shady foreign finances, and what’s hidden in his tax returns. Some Republicans also agree that his record is fair game and that Romney needs to come clean and release more of his tax returns.
    Here’s the rundown.
    Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele:

    “If there’s nothing there, there’s no ‘there’ there, don’t create a ‘there.’ Put out as much information as you can. Even if you don’t release 12 years worth of tax returns, at least three, four, five. ”

    Rep. Walter Jones (NC):

    “I think he should release his financial records and I think if he does it in July it would be a lot better than in October,” Jones told CNN. Romney’s extension for completing his latest tax return goes until October.“Obviously people know he’s rich, nobody holds that against him,” Jones said, but added, “whenever you are asking for the vote of the American people that you need to fully disclose what your holdings are, if you have any.”

    Jones said he’s not a financial expert, but he said Romney should release the last 6 -7 years of records.
    Rep. Pete Sessions (TX), who chairs the House Republican re-election effort:

    “His personal finances, the way he does things, his record, are fair game,”Sessions said. While he declined to name a specific amount of information or number of years’ worth of tax returns Romney should release, he called the issue a “legitimate question.” 

     

    Former RNC Chairman and Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour:

    Barbour told CNN Tuesday that he would release the returns if he was in Romney’s shoes. “I would. But should it be an issue in the campaign? I don’t think it amounts to diddly.” 

     

    Republican stragesist Rick Tyler:

    “Mitt Romney had an opportunity to answer these questions during the primary,” said Rick Tyler, who ran the pro-Gingrich super PAC that spent millions attacking Romney on the Bain issue. “ He did not answer these questions and now they’re coming up again.”
    Tyler warned that the newest Bain twist has the potential to inflict real harm if Romney doesn’t start providing answers.“I saw Andrea Saul’s robotic response, which was the same as it’s always been,” Tyler said, referring to Romney’s press secretary. “That doesn’t comport with documents that have his name on it after 1999 that list him as CEO who was making money off of transactions. If he wasn’t making money from Bain, then his tax returns from the period in question would reveal that.”Tyler said Romney needs to be frank and provide all the details necessary to explain his role in the company after 1999. He hypothesized that there could be more documents to come.“Only [Romney] can provide that information,” Tyler said. “Or we’ll just have drip, drip, drip to November.”

    Republican strategist Ana Navarro:

    “I feel like we are watching a rerun of an episode from the Republican primary with the return of the releasing of taxes issue,” she said. “It turned into a big deal during the primary, and pretty much got diffused when he released the one-year of returns. I wish he’d hurry up and release more tax returns so this distraction would go away.”

    It’s also worth remembering that one of Romney’s own Republican rival, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, first called on Romney to release his tax returns way back in October. Perry followed up during a debate in January:

    “It is important for Mitt to release his tax returns. The fact is we can’t fire our nominee in September.”

    IN ONE SENTENCE: There is bipartisan agreement that Mitt Romney needs to release his tax returns so we can get to the bottom of his record at Bain Capital, secret Bermuda corporation, shady foreign accounts, and the unfair loopholes and tricks he used to pay an  ultra-low tax rate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    I never wrote that. I wrote that I work for a Fortune 500 company, AND I was acting V-P for a corporation, a national, 501 (c) 3 not for profit corporation. Nice to see you conflate the two in your ignorant manner though. If you don’t feel stupid, you should because you are.

    I don’t have to lie about Romney: he’s a liar. That’s an established fact by now. 

    http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/12050-romneys-bid-to-become-liar-in-chief  

    http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/990551/mitt_romney_lies_a_lot_for_a_politician/ 

    Read them and pout.

    The Affordable Care Act raised most of its taxes on fees for top-notch insurance policies. The “tax” that Roberts used to render the ACA constitutional is only for a small percentage of people who refuse to buy health care insurance, just like Romneycare in MA.

    Obama has not outsourced jobs; you’re just making crap up now, including your sleazy and malicious smear about me. No one’s buying that either, but my lawyer wants to know where to deliver your subpoena for your defamation of character. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Doubling down on stupidity; why am I not surprise.

    God, I love mocking morons!

  • Anonymous

    Is it my fault when you have a selective memory account of your resume? NO, it’s YOUR FAULT! You never divulge your complete history, just the bits and pieces here and there while you go lying, tripping and name-dropping your way through comments to make yourself look like more than the ignorant pissant you are.

    LOOK WHO IS STUPID NOW–you! Little ‘y’-o-u!

    You don’t have to lie about Romney, but you do. It is not established fact now. The Boston Globe refuted the lie within the body of the article. Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. Using links to other opinions to support your assumptions does not make your lies fact. How many times do we have to tell you this before it sinks into your lame-brain thick skull?

    Pouting is for pussies like you.

    I’m making things up now? ROTFL. No, Sanduskyman, that is what you do. Your lies are well documented here.

    What you refer to as a “tax” is actually a penalty for not purchasing the mandated health insurance, enforced by the IRS. Barry agreed to purchase oil and support drilling for oil in Brazil. That’s outsourced, especially when he closed down drilling for oil in the Gulf in the US. He outsourced the manufacture of that stupid car to Finland. There are too many jobs outsourced to China to count, but for starters the Olympic Athletes’ Uniforms were made there!

    FACT CHECK, Vicky<2. It's what you should do instead of lying and making up crap!

    Tell your lawyer to take a hike. You can threaten me all you want with your imaginary lawyer and law suit. It won't make a difference. You will still be an idiot and I will still be an anonymous ID with a picture of a bear as an avatar.

    Don't you feel stupid now? You should, Sanduskyman. You SHOULD!!!

  • Anonymous

    Looks more like you are doubling down on stupidity here… which isn’t a surprise to the people who are familiar with your track record for lies, hypocrisy and ad hominems.

    You are mocking yourself, moron.

    BTW, why do you continually call on God when you are a self-proclaimed Deist? He can’t help those who don’t believe in him. This is YOUR hypocrisy, Vicky<2.

    I love it when YOU prove what an idiot you are. Makes my job easier!

  • Anonymous

    Maybe Mitt will when Barry releases his college records and medical records! That should be interesting.

    Maybe we can get to the bottom of Mitt’s personal accounting records, when Lil Debbie Downer Washerwoman Shultz reveals her off shore corporation and shady foreign accounts.

    Maybe we can look into Queen Nancy Pelosi’s personal investments overseas, loopholes and the insider trading deals with VISA. Martha Stewart went to prison for that crime. Nancy should too.

    Why hasn’t Barry disclosed the millions of campaign contributions he received in 2008? Perhaps because they were from foreign corporations and governments.

    VT, you cannot make assinine assumptions and link ad hominems and hyperbolic falsehoods to credited sources without someone calling you on your lies and propaganda.

    Stop pretending to know what you’re talking about.

    Stop making up this crap!

  • SoThere

    Looking in the mirror again, Vicky. You’re like the little pooch barking at your own reflection.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Excuse me, but you are a lying lunatic, and that is just the beginning. You and the other progressive republican can get on your pygmy ponies and ride the hell on outta here over to the other side of the bridge you live under. Progressivism is ruining the country and deluding people like you into believing it is a good thing. Progressivism is a variant of collectivism, which is Marxist at it’s core. Progressivism is the link between representative republic governance and communist rule. You look it up, that will keep you busy well beyond election day.

    You’re a numbskull Curly look-alike, and you have no more credibility left – you killed it yourself with your unending stream of lies and pathetically stupid pronouncements, as well as your profanity strewn personal attacks and smears here and on that manifesto you call a blog. Ted Kaczynski could be seen for what he was -an outright psychopathic menace, just like you, and both of you are cut from the same bolt of cloth.

    Sociopathic and narcissist to the core – you are like two peas from the same pod.

  • CaptainAmerica

    They are always about the lies, and never is there a single particle of truth in anything they say. Destruction by deceptions is the MO that they use and they take advantage of the few trusting souls who have not been exposed to their cynical views.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Why do you assume Romney lies, and why do you ignore your own lies?

    Answer that and you can explain to the Secret Service about all those comments you made in your past about Presidents you didn’t like. That should be fun.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Citing a left wing source here is high comedy, and an example of why you have no sway or credibility here, Donkey brains.

    That outsourcing lie has already been debunked, but you try running with it like the little idiot you are. This should be entertaining for 15 seconds.

  • CaptainAmerica

    I know it makes my day every time he makes me laugh! He’s the not so bright bright spot in my day sometimes.

  • CaptainAmerica

    He’s everything you say and maybe a bit more. Let’s watch while he builds his own casket and digs the hole…

  • CaptainAmerica

    “I wrote that I work for a Fortune 500 company, AND I was acting V-P for a corporation,”

    Yes he did write that just a couple of weeks ago, and we all saw it. He wishes he had not, to save face with his Occupy buddies, or should they be referred to as accusers now?

    He’s always getting caught in his lies, you would think he would realize that, but he’s too mentally deficient to understand that his tactics only work on him.

  • Anonymous

    They follow Alinsky’s rules of projection. To translate, you just switch the pronouns and promper names.

  • CaptainAmerica

    You did write it, and here’s the proof with a link:

    *********************************************************************
    “FYI, I was acting V-P of a national corporation until recently,”
     
    Source: http://www.alternet.org/news/156029/how_right-wingers_on_the_supreme_court_sold_our_democracy_down_the_river_–_again_/comments/#comment-570921211
    *********************************************************************

    That’s what you wrote, you didn’t qualify it as a 501 – which would belie your claim that it was a Fortune 500 company. Your words were specific and the deception you either committed then or are revealing now is none-the-less deception, hence another lie. 

    Here’s the original text of your comment:

    “Sleazy, stupid personal attacks with no substance makes a fool and liar of you.
    You’re no “conservative;” you’re a reactionary, and a moronic one at that since you’re so stupid that you wanted to push the idiotic, sleazy deceitful claim that Obama did not order the mission to get bin Laden.
    Hell: I’m far more conservative than you and other reactionaries are.
    The “everyone” in your dumb ass remark is your clique to stupid, sleazy deceitful character assassins.
    You defend Glenn Beck, so you’re in no position to point your sleazy, slimy dumb-assed finger at me for being “pathetic.”
    FYI, I was acting V-P of a national corporation until recently, so take your sleazy lies and insults and shove them up that massive, Jupiter-sized ass of yours.”

    And here’s what you edited in later to make it look as if you were more truthful than you were:
    “Below, Rock seems to think that countering a woman is different that countering a man which is just absurd (but Beckerheads ARE absurd, following a sleazy, deceitful propagandist, opportunist and manipulative con man like Beck.) I’ve been beating on Rock far more than Sandie, but again, common sense alludes people who can’t see Beck as what he actually is.
    Momma Grizzley, meanwhile, doesn’t seem to understand that there are 501 (c) 3 not for profit corporations that do not pay their officers. Apparently, she is Yogi Bear now, which, given her sleazy character assassination attempts, is way too kind.”

    Posting and then editing equals deception, which is lying. Basically you just revealed to everyone that you are a liar, and as such owed no trust what so ever. Congratulations on revealing what we have been telling people here all along. I enjoy it when you do your best to help me prove what an idiot liar narcissist you are.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Absolutely!

  • Sandie

     About Healthcare in the USA: you might be interested in this -
     A
    recent “Investor’s Business Daily” article provided very interesting
    statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health
    Organization.

    Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:

    U.S. 65%

    England 46%

    Canada 42%

    Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:

    U.S. 93%

    England 15%

    Canada 43%

    Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:

    U.S. 90%

    England 15%

    Canada 43%

    Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:

    U.S. 77%

    England 40%

    Canada 43%

    Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:

    U.S. 71

    England 14

    Canada 18

    Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in “excellent health”:

    U.S. 12%

    England 2%

    Canada 6%

    And now for the last statistic:

    National Health Insurance?

    U.S. NO

    England YES

    Canada YES

  • Sandie

     The WHO rated treatment in the US #1, however the weights given in the different categories gave a result of #38 – mainly because we got no points for fact that it is not socialized medicine (not every single person had guaranteed coverage).  I don’t still have the link, but if you do some Google searches, you should find the WHO rankings/study that shows the breakout of all the categories that were used and the weight they were given to determine the various countries ranking in the world.

  • Sandie

     And certainly more useful.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting Sandie, I would love to read the article you have the link.

  • Sandie

    All you have shown here is that you can cut & paste opinions you like. How about Obama hiding his personal info? You have no problem with that. You have a problem with others in government investing in companies overseas? Do you know that Obama and Hillary are investing in?

     Romney has the same rights as others in this country who invest in companies overseas and bank their profits there, He has declared it on his tax filings.  People who have 401K plans have some of their money being invested overseas – yes, even in companies who compete with those in the states for jobs. Anyone with a mutual fuind probably has some invested overseas also as those funds are mixes of Large Cap, Small Cap, Foreign, etc.. Our government is doing the same thing.  Hillary announced a  $20 million grant (taxpayer $) will be given to Africa to “leverage much
    larger investment flows from OPIC,” [OPIC is the US government's Overseas Private
    Investment Corporation]. She said ““That will open the door then for
    hundreds of millions of dollars of OPIC financing, plus hundreds of
    millions of more dollars from the private sector for projects that
    otherwise would never get off the drawing board.” Our government does it and encourages it, but They are all over Romney because they have to distract from Obama’s piss poor failed record. It is a smear tactic by the left wing who has programmed all their tools, and since you aren’t the sharpest in the box, you carry out your blunt instrument sort of  propaganda like the others on MSNBC do  24/7.

  • Sandie

     Lies lies lies already debunked – Candy Crowley looked into fact checkers and they reported it as lies. 

  • Anonymous

    I couldn’t find it on their website, it showed up in google on snopes which is kind of a red flag. I’ll keep looking

  • Anonymous

    High comedy and misdemeanors! Vicky never ceases to entertain.

  • Anonymous

    That hole he’s been digging has to be the size of Lake Ontario by now!

    ROTFL

  • Anonymous

    Today was the first I heard of his 501(c)3. He was an officer? Somebody stupid trusts him as an officer? of what, Media Matters? And he “was acting VP until recently”. Does that mean they FIRED him?

    How can anyone with half a brain believe the crap he writes? Does he think that editing his comments makes him look more ‘enlightened’ and intelligent?

    Vic, the Sanduskyman, Tiffanny is an idiot, a low-life, no-class, idiot.

  • Sandie

    You claimed to be VP of the corporation  and NEVER said it was a 501 (c) 3. The only proven liar here is you Vic.

    Obamacare raised taxes on  the people he swore would not have their taxes raised – those making less than $250,000 the ones who can least afford it, and happen to be unlucky .enough not to work for companies who pay for the insurance, or the  government whose workers have the taxpayers paying for them, which includes these poor suckers whose taxes pay for them too. That is one of the most unfair taxes he could ever thrust on people. Your trying to marginalize it by saying it’s a small percentage of people is a pathetic fail.

    Giving links to left wing attack pieces that repeat the same lies does nothing for your case. The lies against Romney have been debunked in the Washington Post  and by FactCheck.org,
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-governor-calls-obama-ads-linking-romney-to-jobs-outsourcing-dishonest/2012/07/13/gJQAMIHlhW_story.html

    Obama’s  stimulus package failed to protect American workers and helped create jobs overseas.  In fact,  The Obama administration not only allowed millions of dollars in federal stimulus funds to go to foreign companies, Obama has been sending taxpayer dollars to other countries for them to create products, thus sending jobs overseas.

    http://www.infowars.com/obama-administration-outsourced-jobs-with-stimulus-funding/

      http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7414486n

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/10/republicans-fight-back-on-outsourcing-charges/

    Oh heck how about the big mind blower? Read and weep.

    http://www.obamanomicsoutsourced.com/

  • Anonymous

    Excellent, Sandie.

  • Anonymous

    I don’ think you can say it’s a repulican regime makig the muslim claim. It’s more like every free thinking person who doesn’t watch the lamestream media knows that Ovomit is a foreign born raghead.

  • Anonymous

    VT doesn’t do research. He just makes up crap, throws it against the wall and hopes that it sticks. He’s like the programmed puppet in the White House. VT re-writes it. Barry reads it off a teleprompter. Neither one understands a single word of what they write or say. Neither are the sharpest tool in the shed, but they BOTH are tools.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent, Sandie. Thank God someone does research and backs it up with legitimate links to credible sources! We know ol’ Vic doesn’t…never has.

  • Sandie

     Any time someone tries to snow you with Obama never outsourced jobs… here is a solid rebutal… check it out…
    http://www.obamanomicsoutsourced.com/

  • Sandie

     Both the original unedited foul and sleazy post he made was lies and the edited alsoion was also lies… LMAO either way he looks le a dishonest, deceitful sleazy ahole who does nothing but attack in a most disgusting manner. He is truly a low life.

  • Sandie

     You give 2 links to claims that have already been debunked. As always you are a day late and a dollar short, besides being just plain WRONG!

     Because his name appears on the documents does not mean he was running the company. I can list someone on my company too who is only ‘on paper’ but not an integrel part of the company. Washington Post and the FactCheck.org

    Updated July 13, 2012: ” New reporting cites strong evidence that Mitt Romney wasn’t actively
    managing Bain Capital while he was running the Olympics, despite what
    the Obama campaign (and some news reports) would have voters believe.”

    http://factcheck.org/2012/07/romneys-bain-years-new-evidence-same-conclusion/

    But face it – this is all an Obama re-election desperate attempt to smear Romney and take the country’s eyes off Obama’s failed policies and dismal record.

  • Sandie

     Lincoln’s progrtessivism is not the progressivism of today, which is socialism. I doubt Lincoln would consider himself a progressive by today’s standards.

  • Sandie

     That isn’t proof. Just because someone typed Romney’s name on a document saying he was the CEO, President and Managing Director does not mean he was actively involved in the company, which he wasn’t as he was involved 24/7 with the Olympics. David Corn has only his own opinion and speculation, like you.

  • Sandie

      That link contains no proof, just speculation of a left winger.

    Now – take a gander at reality and get your crying rag:

    Updated July 13, 2012
    New reporting cites strong evidence that Mitt Romney wasn’t actively
    managing Bain Capital while he was running the Olympics, despite what
    the Obama campaign (and some news reports) would have voters believe.

    http://factcheck.org/2012/07/romneys-bain-years-new-evidence-same-conclusion/

    Your links are a pathetic reach and are not proof – they all  hawk the same leftwing crap.
     
    Just because someone typed Romney’s name on a document saying he was the CEO, President and Managing Director does not  mean he was actively involved in the company, which he wasn’t as he was  involved 24/7 with the Olympics.. The left wing propaganda machine  found a blunt instrument in you when they signed you up as a tool.

  • Sandie

     You answer a question with a question – very telling – you are avoiding… deflecting …. typical.

  • Sandie

    Same old Vic BS. It simply isn’t true. He didn’t sign anything you claim – if so – prove it – show the documents with his signature, not some rubber stamp deal.

  • Sandie

     I received this from a friend and tried to withs no pes with snopes – couldn’t find it listed as a false claim or true. I haven’t been able to verify it or debunk it. All I can find is left wing links that claim it is false just on the face of it. It would seem believeable from bits and pieces of info arsr the yuears about how we compare in the US to other socialized med countries and it fits. It also seems to be in line with anecdotal evidence.

  • Sandie

    Yes, not the sharpest tools, that’s why I like to refer to VT as a blunt instrument. “…. the victim was attacked with a blunt instrument…”

  • Sandie

    I believe it was the 2000 study. Their website is a bear – overwhelming. Google shows a lot of sites that have commentary about the methodology and reasons why US rakned so low – I tried to back track to one that gives some specifics but am having a hard time finding it. I may have saved something on my computer from way back when there was a lot of controversy going on with it – will take some searching.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you. This will certainly come in handy on other sites where the comments are debated and intense!

  • Anonymous

    If you don’t like Victor Tiffanny’s contemptible remarks, wait 8 hours. He will edit them to be even more reprehensible.

  • Anonymous

    We were warned early on this year when the Republican candidates were slugging it out that Barry’s campaign would be vicious and dirty. It has proved to be so and ruthlessly more despicable. Barry is a disgusting example of “He stoops to conquer”. He will do ANYTHING to win…LIE, STEAL, CHEAT, THREATS, BLACKMAIL, MURDER! He has and will.

  • Anonymous

    Another diversionary tactic to discredit past Presidents and sell his Socialist agenda and propaganda. Thing is, if Barry’s New World Regime and Socialist agenda that Vic will defend and promote ad nauseum was enacted, he, Victor Tiffanny, would be in the first group to be hauled off the the FEMA camps or eliminated permanently!

  • Anonymous

    Greta Van Susteren said on her show “On the Record” Thursday that long after she left her law practice to be a commentator (for CNN during the OJ Simpson trial), her name was still on documents within the firm for years, though she was no longer a practicing attorney. It happens with major companies. Obviously, Vic isn’t as informed about Corporations as he would like everyone to believe. That’s what happens when he speaks out of both sides of his mouth.

  • Anonymous

    He commented yesterday that his other instrument doesn’t work either. Guess he doesn’t realize the extent of his own revealing statements in his haste to discredit others. LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_23KAMA46IUKKVJBFOH6CCSI3X4 Leo

    Romney collected a salary of over 100 thousand per year from Bain, was listed in SEC filings as Sole Owner and owner of 100% of the company stock, but he had nothing to do with it? Even Glenn Beck should know that Romney is a liar…but I guess politics will make Glenn do the “right thing” by his Mormon brother…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_23KAMA46IUKKVJBFOH6CCSI3X4 Leo

    That is so funny. I almost forgot to laugh….as if tax returns and school transcripts are equivalent. I thought you RWs hated Romney…oh…that’s right, your sneaky hatred of black people trumps anything, even the fact that you all agreed with Santorum when he and Newtie Boy were calling Mitt Robsme a liar.

    Talk about hypocrisy!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_23KAMA46IUKKVJBFOH6CCSI3X4 Leo

    Yeah, the dude gets beat up on for the Rev Wright thing, then the same idiots go on and on about how the president is a muslim. Please check out a truly free country like Somalia if you don’t like the current administration because they are not white.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3M55VDSFF3SUPJALADU5N22KE TT

    Amazing how this people just say ANYTHING they wish, any FABRICATION and spin it as FACT! 
    WOW!! it is scary because any psychologist that was watching this must have had flashbacks of his patients at the LOONY BIN!. WOW distorting reality to make it fit one’s believes is frankly CRAZY in every meaning of the word.I have a question on the Obama staffer accusing or implying that Mitt Romney is somehow ha a FELON…can Mitt file suit for false accusation? I wish he would because that is just so irresponsible and frankly this is more criminal than what they are trying to accuse Romney of.
    How can people raise accusations like that and get away with it? I am sure if any walk of the mill citizen would say anything like that he/she would be legally sued in less than a blink of an eye!
    Yet we have our President admitting in his own words to a felony (snorting cocaine) and yet he somehow remains ABOVE THE LAW! I thought the American Constitution made us all equal? I guess not! there still people that are ABOVE the LAW like our current beloved president!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3M55VDSFF3SUPJALADU5N22KE TT

    Hater! your not mad at Romney for what he did! you are mad that it is NOT YOU who did it!
    FAKE, JEALOUS, HATER!
    You people are DISGUSTING!

  • Anonymous

    What do tax returns OR college transcripts have to do with whether or not someone would be a good president? The last three years have shown that Obama is not. Obama wants to bring up things about Romney because the President’s record is so egregious he cannot really talk about it. And,to answer the question, college transcripts and tax returns are not the same, one only shows how much money you made, the other is illustrative of your character. What classes did you take? Did you follow through and make good grades? Class choice goes directly to what you believe in and how you are likely to act in the future. Tax returns only show whether you were good at your job. What character revelations is Obama hiding? Marxist classes or Anti-Colonial tendencies or both? We already know that Obama is a liar “the mandate is not a tax” “you will be able to keep your doctor” “the law will cost less than a trillion”

  • Anonymous

    Obama lies so many different times not even funny. at least mitt Romney has been telling
    the truth. Obama is just worried about losing his second term as pres.  

  • CaptainAmerica

    I agree completely. He’s the lowest of the low. Do you think he got his behavioral instruction from the Grinch?

  • CaptainAmerica

    Do 501)c)3′s even qualify as Fortune 500 businesses?

  • Anonymous

    Who cares whether he is a Muslim? He is such a crappy President that the Muslims would be embarrassed to call him one of their own. Obama himself claims that his father was not a US citizen which disqualifies Obama as being a “Natural Born Citizen” according to the Founder’s definitions. BOTH your parents have to be citizens to qualify to this higher standard, Where you were born is not the issue. Nevertheless, we should all be worried, not so much about his parentage, as worried about what an egregious, reprehensible, and downright dangerous leader he is. Our Republic is in danger of becoming unrecognizeable. A steaming pile of dog crap would be a better President.

  • Anonymous

    One is a non-profit organization. The other is a Corporation for-profit. Doubt he knows the difference or the impact of the hypocrisy in his statements.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Any corporation that would trust him to handle money would be a non-profit organization, but probably not intentionally.

  • Anonymous

    For the record, it was Newt Gingrich that did the “retelling and respinning.” Look it up. And Romney himself has already proved himself to be the quintessential liar who will say anything to get votes.Even most Republicans despise him.

  • Anonymous

    College transcripts are are protected by the Privacy Act. Why is no other candidate expected to release theirs?

  • Anonymous

    Talk about hypocrisy is right.  You proved just how much of a stupid hypocrite YOU are with your idiotic statement.  Tax returns and school transcripts are EXACTLY equivalent in that NEITHER ONE really matters in someone’s Presidential bid.

    Now, shut up, hypocrite.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, if he was born in Kenya, he actually IS eligible to be President BECAUSE of the fact that his mother was a citizen according to Section 1401 of Title 8 of the US Code which defines “citizens of the United States AT BIRTH” and “citizens of the United States AT BIRTH” are ALL assumed to be NATURAL BORN citizens as far as Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Constitution itself are concerned.  This fact has been upheld by Congress and the Supreme Court EVERY SINGLE TIME it was brought up in the past 200 years.

  • Sandie

    Without a doubt. He is reprehensible.

  • Sandie

    Obama is the typical Chicago thug politician and “Dirty Democrat” as they earned the title back then.. He is all about smearing just to divert attention from his being a total failure. He has nothing else to use – no positives. Thin is, what he is doing is all lies and distortions. If Romney ever got started in that vein, he could DESTROY Obama with his (BOs) own game.

  • Sandie

    They might make him sand box monitor.

  • Sandie

    Exactly! Vic the Stupid thinks that if a name is on a document (no matter who put it there) it is proof they are participating in the capacity they are written to, which we (the intelligent and knowledgeable) know is just not necessarily so. Names ewill continue to appear on corporate docs even though they may be on leave of absense and are there only as a figure head while totally absent or non functionary. GAWD he is so stupid and it is getting SO annoying dealing with his ignorance!

  • Sandie

    LMAO yup! He is a failure at boith ends.

  • Sandie

    Maybe Hitler?

  • Sandie

    What a great piece to have on hand to hand back to him when he is being a total ahole thinking he knows it all. ” Hey, Vic, do ou remember when …..” LMAO

  • Anonymous

    And everyone knows it, too! He’s too stupid to realize that everyone is on to his stupid tactics!

  • Anonymous

    I think more and more people are on to Obummer’s dirty tricks. His campaign strategy of eliminate the competition is the only tactic he knows. That’s how Barry won his seat in the Illinois Senate and his US Senate seat. Chicago thugocracy–goes all the way back to 1920′s! Barry has just brought it into the 21st Century!

  • Anonymous

    Knowing VT, he’d be the jail house snitch cleaning the bathrooms.

  • Anonymous

    He IS annoying. Prime example of your point: Steve Jobs and Apple. Jobs took a leave of absence/quit due to health issues, but came back before he died. His name was/is APPLE! Even though he’s dead!

  • Anonymous

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    Hitler had a photographic memory. VT has Jing. There’s a BIG difference.

  • Anonymous

    The file on Vic is getting bigger! Hundreds of pages, in fact. Posting his records would cause the website to crash!

  • Sandie

    LMAO

  • sparducks

    thought so. Gibbs is squeeler from animal farm.

  • v biancalana

    Dear Republicans….this is your VP nominee…….“I grew up reading Ayn Rand and it taught me quite a bit about who I am and what my value systems are,” he told the group, adding, “It’s inspired me so much that it’s required reading in my office for all my interns and my staff.” In fact, two years earlier Ryan told the Weekly Standard, “I give out ‘Atlas Shrugged’ as Christmas presents.” Rand, “an atheist with a tartly Darwinian world view,” as the LA Times recently wrote, was a Russian émigré, author, and the philosophical force behind objectivism, the idea that people should pursue their own rational self-interest rather than the good of others. As such, laissez-faire capitalism is the ideal economic system according to Rand’s views, and the only system that embodies the Randian philosophy. Rand rendered her philosophies into the bestselling “Atlas Shrugged” and “The Fountainhead,” two books which form part of the modern conservative canon, books which helped inspire generations of conservatives and libertarians like Ryan. (Incidentally, Ryan’s mentor, Jack Kemp, the New York congressman and Bob Dole running mate, was also a huge fan. So was five-time US Senator Barry Goldwater, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson.)
    Paul Ryan does an about-face on Ayn RandRepublican vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan once credited Rand as the reason he entered public service, but now says, ‘I reject her philosophy.’

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    Truth and Lies About Medicare
    Republican attacks on President Obama’s plans for Medicare are growing more heated and inaccurate by the day. Both Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan made statements last week implying that the Affordable Care Act would eviscerate Medicare when in fact the law should shore up the program’s finances. Both men have also twisted themselves into knots to distance themselves from previous positions, so that voters can no longer believe anything they say. Last week, both insisted that they would save Medicare by pumping a huge amount of money into the program, a bizarre turnaround for supposed fiscal conservatives out to rein in federal spending. The likelihood that they would stand by that irresponsible pledge after the election is close to zero. And the likelihood that they would be better able than Democrats to preserve Medicare for the future (through a risky voucher system that may not work well for many beneficiaries) is not much better. THE ALLEGED “RAID ON MEDICARE” A Republican attack ad says that the reform law has “cut” $716 billion from Medicare, with the money used to expand coverage to low-
    income people who are currently uninsured. “So now the money you paid for your guaranteed health care is going to a massive new government program that’s not for you,” the ad warns. What the Republicans fail to say is that the budget resolutions crafted by Paul Ryan and approved by the Republican-controlled House retained virtually the same cut in Medicare. In reality, the $716 billion is not a “cut” in benefits but rather the savings in costs that the Congressional Budget Office projects over the next decade from wholly reasonable provisions in the reform law. One big chunk of money will be saved by reducing unjustifiably high subsidies to private Medicare Advantage plans that enroll many beneficiaries at a higher average cost than traditional Medicare. Another will come from reducing the annual increases in federal reimbursements to health care providers — like hospitals, nursing homes and home health agencies — to force the notoriously inefficient system to find ways to improve productivity. And a further chunk will come from fees or taxes imposed on drug makers, device makers and insurers — fees that they can surely afford since expanded coverage for the uninsured will increase their markets and their revenues. NO HARM TO SENIORS The Republicans imply that the $716 billion in cuts will harm older Americans, but almost none of the savings come from reducing the benefits available for people already on Medicare. But if Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan were able to repeal the reform law, as they have pledged to do, that would drive up costs for many seniors — namely those with high prescription drug costs, who are already receiving subsidies under the reform law, and those who are receiving preventive services, like colonoscopies, mammograms and immunizations, with no cost sharing. Mr. Romney argued on Friday that the $716 billion in cuts will harm beneficiaries because those who get discounts or extra benefits in the heavily subsidized Medicare Advantage plans will lose them and because reduced payments to hospitals and other providers could cause some providers to stop accepting Medicare patients. If he thinks that will be a major problem, Mr. Romney should leave the reform law in place: it has many provisions designed to make the delivery of health care more efficient and cheaper, so that hospitals and others will be better able to survive on smaller payments. NO BANKRUPTCY LOOMING The Republicans also argue that the reform law will weaken Medicare and that by preventing the cuts and ultimately turning to vouchers they will enhance the program’s solvency. But Medicare is not in danger of going “bankrupt”; the issue is whether the trust fund that pays hospital bills will run out of money in 2024, as now projected, and require the program to live on the annual payroll tax revenues it receives. The Affordable Care Act helped push back the insolvency date by eight years, so repealing the act would actually bring the trust fund closer to insolvency, perhaps in 2016. DEFICIT REDUCTION Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan said last week that they would restore the entire $716 billion in cuts by repealing the law. The Congressional Budget Office concluded that repealing the law would raise the deficit by $109 billion over 10 years. The Republicans gave no clue about how they would pay for restoring the Medicare cuts without increasing the deficit. It is hard to believe that, if faced with the necessity of fashioning a realistic budget, keeping Medicare spending high would be a top priority with a Romney-Ryan administration that also wants to spend very large sums on the military and on tax cuts for wealthy Americans. Regardless of who wins the election, Medicare spending has to be reined in lest it squeeze out other priorities, like education. It is utterly irresponsible for the Republicans to promise not to trim Medicare spending in their desperate bid for votes. THE DANGER IN MEDICARE VOUCHERS The reform law would help working-age people on modest incomes buy private policies with government subsidies on new insurance exchanges, starting in 2014. Federal oversight will ensure a reasonably comprehensive benefit package, and competition among the insurers could help keep costs down. But it is one thing to provide these “premium support” subsidies for uninsured people who cannot get affordable coverage in the costly, dysfunctional markets that serve individuals and their families. It is quite another thing to use a similar strategy for older Americans who have generous coverage through Medicare and who might well end up worse off if their vouchers failed to keep pace with the cost of decent coverage. Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan would allow beneficiaries to use vouchers to buy a version of traditional Medicare instead of a private plan, but it seems likely that the Medicare plan would attract the sickest patients, driving up Medicare premiums so that they would be unaffordable for many who wanted traditional coverage. Before disrupting the current Medicare program, it would be wise to see how well premium support worked in the new exchanges. THE CHOICE This will be an election about big problems, and it will provide a clear choice between contrasting approaches to solve them. In the Medicare arena, the choice is between a Democratic approach that wants to retain Medicare as a guaranteed set of benefits with the government paying its share of the costs even if costs rise, and a Republican approach that wants to limit the government’s spending to a defined level, relying on untested market forces to drive down insurance costs. The reform law is starting pilot programs to test ways to reduce Medicare costs without cutting benefits. Many health care experts have identified additional ways to shave hundreds of billions of dollars from projected spending over the next decade without harming beneficiaries. It is much less likely that the Republicans, who have long wanted to privatize Medicare, can achieve these goals.

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    Beware a Beautiful Calm
    By MAUREEN DOWDWASHINGTON WHAT happens when you realize you are the machine you’re raging against? Tom Morello, the Grammy-winning, Harvard-educated guitarist for the metal rap band Rage Against the Machine, punctured Paul Ryan’s pretensions to cool in a Rolling Stone essay rejecting R&R (Romney ’n’ Ryan) as R&R (rock ’n’ roll). “He is the embodiment of the machine that our music has been raging against for two decades,” Morello writes, adding: “I clearly see that Ryan has a whole lotta ‘rage’ in him: A rage against women, a rage against immigrants, a rage against workers, a rage against gays, a rage against the poor, a rage against the environment. Basically, the only thing he’s not raging against is the privileged elite he’s groveling in front of for campaign contributions.” In my experience, when a presidential candidate needs some outside force to animate him — Michael Dukakis needed Kitty, Bob Dole needed C-Span, Willard needs Paul — it spells doom. The fresh Gen X vice-presidential contender — like Sarah Palin, he favors the exclamation “awesome” — has had mixed reviews in his debutante cotillion. Howard Fineman wrote in The Huffington Post that “Ryan turns out, upon closer inspection, not to be a purifying ideologue, but rather a young, power-hungry, ladder-climbing trimmer.” The self-styled deficit cutter backed W.’s deficit-exploding agenda, and the tut-tutting critic of the Obama stimulus grabbed for the president’s stimulus money. Neocons and Tea Partyers, however, continued to rhapsodize. Grover Norquist told Bloomberg’s Al Hunt that Ryan would be the Dick Cheney of economic and tax policy. And that’s a compliment. The comparison is apt. Ryan looks like a bonus Romney son, as Dan Quayle did with Bush senior. Republicans find the tableau of two rich white guys — same shirts, different generations — comforting. With W. and Cheney, the usual order switched and the vice-presidential candidate played the role of surrogate dad. Where Ryan is like Cheney is in tone: at first blush, the Wisconsin congressman emanates a thoughtful, reassuring reasonableness, talking to reporters and sometimes Democratic lawmakers. Cheney’s deep voice, like the headmaster of a boys’ prep school, seemed moderate and measured, too, at first. But it is deceptive. Both men are way, way out there. It is, to use a phrase coined by French doctors, la belle indifférence, or “the beautiful calm” of hysterical people. But the closer you look, the uglier it gets. Just as Cheney, hunter of small birds and old friends, once defended cop-killer bullets and plastic guns that could slip through airport metal detectors, so Ryan, deer hunter, championed concealed guns and curtailing the background check waiting period from three days to one. Just as Cheney was always willing to cough up money to guerrillas in Nicaragua and Angola but not to poor women whose lives were endangered by their pregnancies, so Ryan helped pay for W.’s endless wars while pushing endless anti-abortion bills, like one undercutting an exemption from the ban on using federal money for abortions in cases of rape or incest, and narrowing the definition of rape to “forcible rape.” What on earth is nonforcible rape? It’s like saying nonlethal murder. Why redefine acts of aggression against women as non-acts of aggression? Even Catholic bishops, who had to be dragged toward compassion in the pedophilia scandal, were dismayed at how uncompassionate Ryan’s budget was. Mitt Romney expects his running mate to help deliver the Catholic vote and smooth over any discomfort among Catholics about Mormonism. (This is the first major-party ticket to go Protestant-less.) Yet after Ryan claimed his budget was shaped by his faith, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops deemed it immoral. “A just spending bill cannot rely on disproportionate cuts in essential services to poor and vulnerable persons,” the bishops wrote in a letter to Congress. The Jesuits were even more tart, with one group writing to Ryan that “Your budget appears to reflect the values of your favorite philosopher, Ayn Rand, rather than the Gospel of Jesus Christ.” The nuns-on-the-bus also rapped the knuckles of the former altar boy who now takes his three kids to Mass. As Sister Simone Campbell, executive director of the Catholic social justice group Network, told MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell, it’s sad that a Catholic doesn’t understand that “we need to have each other’s backs. Only wealthy people can ever begin to pretend that they can live in a gated community all by themselves.” Even Ryan’s former parish priest in Janesville weighed in. Father Stephen Umhoefer told the Center for Media and Democracy, “You can’t tell somebody that in 10 years your economic situation is going to be just wonderful because meanwhile your kids may starve to death.” Beyond the even-keeled Ryan mien lurks full-tilt virulence. A moderate demeanor is not a sign of a moderate view of the world.

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  • Anonymous

    It’s bad enough that Glenn Beck was in the tank for the bought-off hack Romney… but we’ll never forget the hatchet job he did on Debra Medina.
    Glenn Beck, it doesn’t matter how much liberty thunder you steal from the alternative media figures, YOU HAVE GIVEN UP YOUR CREDIBILITY A LONG TIME AGO!