NYT: Yeah, we were wrong on the Arab Spring thing

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Now that the post revolution euphoria has settled down a bit and the media has slept off their drunken celebration of the Arab Spring, the reality of the outcome is becoming a bit clearer. Given there’s a radical Islamist president who, along with instituting Sharia Law and waging Jihad, is also trying to gain the release of a convicted terrorist from a North Carolina prison. Suddenly the revolution doesn’t sound so exciting, does it.

The New York Times reported:

 The overthrow of dictators across the Arab world and the rise of Islamists to new influence or power is forcing Washington to reassess decades-old judgments. The most important is in Egypt, where Mr. Morsi, representing the region’s most powerful Islamist movement, the Muslim Brotherhood, won a close election. His move on Sunday to revive the dissolved Parliament had Western experts scrambling to understand his strategy.

In Tunisia, a once-banned Islamist party, Ennahda, won a plurality of seats in elections last year, and Islamists have won new support in Yemen as well. In Saturday’s voting,Libya appeared to buck the trend, when a coalition led by a moderate political scientist seemed to edge out two Islamist parties.

But in a sign of the political potency of religion, the leader of the winning coalition,Mahmoud Jibril, went out of his way to reject the “secular” label for his National Forces Alliance and reached out to the Islamists. “There are no extremists,” he said.

The article also notes that the new Egyptian president has called for the release of Omar Abdel Rahman, now 74, a ” leading figure in the group during its violent days. He was sentenced in 1996 for plotting a ‘war of urban terrorism’against the United States, beginning with the bombings of tunnels and landmarks in New York City.”

“By the way, a new Muslim cleric in England with a group called the United Muslim Nations International has released a new 23‑page pamphlet called the Global Islamic Civilization:  The Power of a Nation Revived.  This had 23‑page booklet a lot of people will dismiss.  Do not be one of them.  The 23‑page booklet calls and outlines the plan for the reestablishment of a Caliphate.  In the 23‑page booklet it explains its goals, quote:  Christianity should be destroyed and wiped from the face of the Earth.  It is an evil demonic and Antichrist system.  All Christians are in complete ignorance.  The only true religion is Islam,” Glenn added.

“We had a Muslim terrorist meet with our president, and our president is now meeting with the head of the Muslim Brotherhood from the new president of Egypt, and he has called for the destruction of Israel.  He has also called for the reestablishment of the Caliphate with its headquarters, its global seat of power, in Jerusalem.  And our president has invited him to the White House.  The president is knowingly involved and in bed with Muslim extremists and terrorists,” Glenn said.

“We will not last two terms with this man. We will not last two terms.”

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Hopefully people are finally awakening at last, those who have denied and slept for so much of this administrations time. We may not survive this term when Obama, in his narcissistic mind set and god complex, finally goes over the edge and into complete madness – and yes I hold that he is growing more and more unstable mentally by the day.

    He has allied with the extremists of Islam, Marxism, Socialism and terrorists to chage the world and the destruction of Israel, America and so much more he has come to hate within his view of the world.

    The questions now, with Obama are:

    When will he cross into complete insanity?
    Will he make a final grab for absolute power?
    Will he unleash the radicals to gain vengence on the people of America for his loss in Nov?
    How hard will he strike, to win all or a scorched earth in vengence, and what will be left over?

    God Above help us now, for we are in the most dangerous of days the nation has seen for many a year; with Obama at the helm, along with the radicals of Congress and the admin, he is capable of doing anything to stay in power.

  • Tony Draxx

    My friends said I was crazy in 2008-2009 when I said we need to be wary, the Bible says beware of the dark man rising from the east.  I did not say that because he is of a color other than white, I said it because of his track record and the friends he keeps around him constantly.  Now they are asking me how I knew things were going to get so bad like they are now, I usually tell them an “educated guess” (but I always hoped I was wrong).  Now they are asking me what should they do in this late hour, and I tell them three things: 1. Stock up on Food. 2. Prepare yourselves it is going to get worse. 3. Vote (think about and research the person you are voting for, you need to know who’s side they are on!  America’s, Their Own, or Some Foreign Power (including the U.N.)…

  • Tony Draxx

    My friends said I was crazy in 2008-2009 when I said we need to be wary, the Bible says beware of the dark man rising from the east.  I did not say that because he is of a color other than white, I said it because of his track record and the friends he keeps around him constantly.  Now they are asking me how I knew things were going to get so bad like they are now, I usually tell them an “educated guess” (but I always hoped I was wrong).  Now they are asking me what should they do in this late hour, and I tell them three things: 1. Stock up on Food. 2. Prepare yourselves it is going to get worse. 3. Vote (think about and research the person you are voting for, you need to know who’s side they are on!  America’s, Their Own, or Some Foreign Power (including the U.N.)…

  • Tony Draxx

    Didn’t Thomas Jefferson say, “That America can only survive if there are people of Honesty, Honor, and Integrity appointed as the leaders of this nation.”?

    The people who Voted Obummer into office sure did not think about these traits… (or the people he appointed to positions of power).

  • Tony Draxx

    Didn’t Thomas Jefferson say, “That America can only survive if there are people of Honesty, Honor, and Integrity appointed as the leaders of this nation.”?

    The people who Voted Obummer into office sure did not think about these traits… (or the people he appointed to positions of power).

  • Anonymous

    hmmm…  Ruthless dictators we can support… Islamists are bad.  Say that slowly to see if it makes sense to you!!!

  • Anonymous

    hmmm…  Ruthless dictators we can support… Islamists are bad.  Say that slowly to see if it makes sense to you!!!

  • Sunshine Kid

     Glenn Beck seems to be losing it.  I would have thought that the “Glenn gloats on radio today” would have gotten a lot of comments after more than an hour, yet at this point as I type this, only a bare three comments (this should be fourth).

    Sad, Glenn, but your audience base is moving to more pressing issues than following your gloating posts.

  • Sunshine Kid

     Glenn Beck seems to be losing it.  I would have thought that the “Glenn gloats on radio today” would have gotten a lot of comments after more than an hour, yet at this point as I type this, only a bare three comments (this should be fourth).

    Sad, Glenn, but your audience base is moving to more pressing issues than following your gloating posts.

  • Anonymous

    Tricked and deceived again.  You would think people have had enough of the games Obama plays with our lives.   Promoting Islam is his goal first and formost.

  • Anonymous

    Tricked and deceived again.  You would think people have had enough of the games Obama plays with our lives.   Promoting Islam is his goal first and formost.

  • Anonymous

    You are very sane and well read.

    The Anti Christ..starts small and becomes great.
    Comes from an insignifigant people
    His name will be different from those who proceeded before him.
    Will cause great devesdation.
    Becomes strong not by his own power. 
    Becomes blasphemous against God, Mocks God. 
    Comes from a political super power
    A stern faced King
    Master of Intrigue and Deception
    Codename: Renegade, the Lawless one
    Arrogant, Boastful, Sardonic, Smug.

  • Anonymous

    You are very sane and well read.

    The Anti Christ..starts small and becomes great.
    Comes from an insignifigant people
    His name will be different from those who proceeded before him.
    Will cause great devesdation.
    Becomes strong not by his own power. 
    Becomes blasphemous against God, Mocks God. 
    Comes from a political super power
    A stern faced King
    Master of Intrigue and Deception
    Codename: Renegade, the Lawless one
    Arrogant, Boastful, Sardonic, Smug.

  • Anonymous

    We’ve seen the results of Islamic radicals in their own countries before. Before the 9/11 attacks the Taliban, in their Islamic zealotry, destroyed Budda statues that were thousands of years old because they didn’t suit their religion. There is now talk in Egypt about destroying the pyramids for the same reason.

    Sympathy

  • Anonymous

    We’ve seen the results of Islamic radicals in their own countries before. Before the 9/11 attacks the Taliban, in their Islamic zealotry, destroyed Budda statues that were thousands of years old because they didn’t suit their religion. There is now talk in Egypt about destroying the pyramids for the same reason.

    Sympathy

  • Anonymous

    I started looking into Obama in the summer of 2008. At that point he had raised $400 million for his campaign. How does an unknown junior senator from Illinois raide that kind of money? The further I looked the more I came to the same conclusion that you have. Every time I see his face now this song pops into my head.

    Read the lyrics. If you don’t like the music, mute it. But read the lyrics.

    Sympathy

  • Anonymous

    I started looking into Obama in the summer of 2008. At that point he had raised $400 million for his campaign. How does an unknown junior senator from Illinois raide that kind of money? The further I looked the more I came to the same conclusion that you have. Every time I see his face now this song pops into my head.

    Read the lyrics. If you don’t like the music, mute it. But read the lyrics.

    Sympathy

  • Anonymous

    Hey Glenn, if you were the only one who saw the “light” about the arab spring, only then would you have the right to gloat so much. In fact, many thinking people saw the arab spring as an evil uprising, but, of course, the media has brainwashed the throngs to belive them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1439824991 Siska Van Soolen DeYoung

    Let’s not forget that Netherlands is about to fall to Islam’s Sharia law if those people there don’t grow some balls and say no to their demands.  

  • Tony Draxx

    Thanks DebRollin,
    I believe Destiny has three parts to it…
    1. Fate - predestined things that affect a person
    2. Luck – whether bad or good it influences the outcome
    3. Decisions – decisions we make can change the outcome

    Our part in the near future…
    1. Fate – Others voted Obummer into power of the presidency.
    2. Luck – Obummer has turned good fortune into bad luck for the commoner.
    3. Decisions – We have a chance in November and Beyond to change who is in  the Presidency the next Four Years and Senate/Congress (and will we do it as a group of like minded people for the better).

    The Rest Will Be Our Destiny…

  • Tony Draxx

    Don’t forget about Ethiopia where they were going to Stone a Woman to Death under Sharia Law, she had sex outside of wedlock (with a married man who faced no consequences for adultery).  Buried to her neck and stoned until dead…

    What saved her in the end was She was Pregnant with her Deceased Husbands child, timelines proved her innocence and she was Not carrying a bastard child!

    Otherwise she would have Perished Under Sharia Law, and a man that fooled around on his wife is running around Free.  Is this the Direction the US or the World in general needs to go?  Under a Califate or Sharia Law we would have no choice in the matter!  Are you going to be the First to Cast/Throw the stone at only one half of the problem?

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm   B.O. meeting with the Egyptian head of the Muslim Brotherhood, eh?   Why?  Do they

    share like views and/or have a lot in common?   Or is this merely a ”courtesy call”?    Right now

    it appears the Muslims in the US are a ”protected” group.  If B.O. gets reelected (noooo), what

    will happen?   Will there be more of them in the administration?     There are already school

    districts in some parts of the US with Muslim studies in public schools both grammar and high

    school.  Will there be an increase in that or mandatory for all public schools?

  • Anonymous

    thx,  it was sad to see the Buddhist statues destroyed—it was filmed.   But that has

    happened throughout history.  The early Christian church burned manuscripts from the

    great library in Alexandria in Egypt.   Now, I think most cultures would see the value of

    historic or ancient manuscripts, books, artifacts and the like.   Except, as stated above,

    those who want to destroy Christianity.   And they have also made promises to destroy

    Israel.

  • Anonymous

    Tony, You are so right, destiny has alot to do with our future.  God already has a plan in place, and he expects people to vote for sensible righteous individuals to govern, but we are given free will.  (Man has repeated history so many times because he never learns from his mistakes.)  Look at the nations that fell before us, Sodom and Gomorrah, Rome, Greece, because of sin, corruption, and immorality.    This is the result of uninformed people voting, who look only at the surface of a candidate,  he doesn’t know how to tell the truth, in every sentence he utters.  The media didn’t help either because they never exposed this President’s past or roots.  We fight for Freedom and fairness which is severely threatened, its going to be interesting to see if those who are given a free ride are satisfied with being nothings and living off the government. Unfortunately those who have values,  moral character, and common sense are obliged to suffer through the bad decisions of others.

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  • Anonymous

    If I remember my history correctly (admittedly, it’s been a long time since I was in school) no one really knows who burned the Library of Alexandria or even if it was intentional or result of an accidental spreading of a fire started for some other reason. Christianity is not, however, without its faults. There was the Inquisiton, for example, and torture and the burning of witches at the stake.

    The point is that when people see such atrocities against antiquities it should be a wakeup call to the fact that the perpetrators, whoever they are, are totally out of control and if they go unchecked there will be an even worse price to pay in the near future.

    Our founding fathers clearly recognized the danger of politics based on religion, regardless of which religion. I’m no religious scholar but as far as I can tell politics and religion are inseparable in the following of Islam and so it presents a clear and present danger.

    I consider the destruction of the ancient Budda statues, and if it occurs, the destruction of the Egyptian pyramids to be true crimes against humanity regardless of the religious justification. In my opinion, the fact that religious beliefs are used as a justification condemns not only the perpetrators of the act but all of those who support that religion as well as participants in the act.

  • Zooropa Fly

    Yep you all better watch out, the Caliphate is coming…..
    Get a life and worry about something real for a change y’awl.

  • Anonymous

    Or maybe it’s because Glenn’s audience ya know, works for a living, and doesn’t have time immediately after Glenn speaks to quick go to his site and comment.  Get a life bud

  • http://twitter.com/nutts2020 nutt

    Once again – lots of people, Beck included, wetting their pants out of even the fear of the notion of an Obama dictatorship; yet support very real dictatorships elsewhere. Can you guys get it straight where it is you stand on dictatorship? Seems like you’re a bunch of NIMBYs when it comes to the issue…

  • greywolfrs

    You are an idiot of epic proportions. Nobody is “wetting their pants.” That’s just left wing B S rhetoric. You actually think that guys like Mubarak were bad, just wait until these MB idiots start putting their shit. Mubarak will look like a saint. You stupid left wingers think you freed someone and you did nothing of the sort. You only made things worse. Keep believing the lies, moron.

  • greywolfrs

    Yeah, we shouldn’t worry about something that is actually happening, that our government helped along. You are stupid.

  • greywolfrs

    Well said…

  • http://www.facebook.com/otakuraf Rafael Torres

    The liberal media and the NY Times make me so MAD!!! It’s because of their spin on the Arab Spring why Lara Logan was sexually gang-assaulted as with other journalits that were beaten, raped, or killed and why women are still getting sexually assaulted or raped in Egyt because of this and their stories are not being covered that much by the Mainstream Media! They have no idea what is coming to our country and to other countries because of their support of this so-called “peaceful demonstration.” I can’t believe that Ms. Logan is still in CBS and still in 60 Minutes of which both are continuing their spin. When will everyone (and her) wake up?!

  • http://twitter.com/nutts2020 nutt

    That’s not what I’m getting from the comments section here – lots of pant-wetting about impending dictatorship.  You think that Mubarak was good? That Gaddafi was was good? Those people freed themselves, much like Americans did long ago. So revolution can only be celebrated for yourself, and dictatorship is only bad when you yourself is under it?

    As I say – classic NIMBY attitude.

  • http://twitter.com/nutts2020 nutt

    You support dictatorships that have actually happened, and decry something that hasn’t.  Get your story straight at least, bozo.

  • Anonymous

    OK, thx, the next question is: if they are thinking of destroying the

    pyramids and go through with it, what is next, the Sphinx?  Will they

    also do further damage to the Pharaoh’s tombs, in addition to all the

    looting from the past?   Will they also tear down/destroy any standing

    monuments from that era?   I know it is the Islam way, after they have

    killed or driven out Christians, to rebuild on the site of their churches.

    How safe are the Christians in Egypt, do you think?    And when will

    anyone in the outside world start to complain and condemn?

  • Anonymous

    I think the Sphinx would probably be one of the first to be destroyed just because it has a face and a body. The pyramids are not so personal but I imagine _all_ of the ancient Egyptian constructions would be targeted. I haven’t been keeping up with the political battle between the new rigime and the military but I would say the Christians in Egypt are about as safe as the Jews in Germany in 1939. Dhimmiitude basically calls for slavery or death. People in the outside world are already noticing but the coverage seems to be very light. It has been almost non-exitant in America and as the new regime cracks down I would expect less and less information to get out to the rest of the world. The current administration’s State Department certainly won’t make an issue of it.

  • Anonymous

    I would say his first and foremosr gaol is the destruction of America. Islam will, however, be allowed to play a part in that destruction. Look at the following link. That is from FDR’s time but it sure looks familiar. The only thing that hasn’t been accomplished in the action plan is the last item.

    The Plan, The Whole Plan, and Nothing But The Plan

  • Anonymous

    Keep in mind also that muslems consider insurance to be gambling and it is forbidden. So they won’t be participating in ObamaCare because they will have a exemption due to religious beliefs.

    The only thing I see worse than Obama getting re-elected is for him not to run, Hillary Clinton gets the Democratic nomination and wins the election, and Obama becomes Secretary General of the United Nations. Scared yet?

  • Sunshine Kid

    *I’m just going on past observations. I have a life, bud, so don’t attempt the insult; it will not work with me.
    *

  • Tony Draxx

    thx1138v2, I watched a WW2 documentary that showed Germans using artillery to knock down the Library of Alexandria (they filmed it themselves).  This was done for a few reasons…
    1. Demoralize Enemies by taking down a cultural landmark that has stood for centuries.
    2. German Propaganda used by the Germans to show their strength/power by destroying something that has stood for centuries.
    3. Many Germans of various faiths believe in One God, and the older cultures had believed to be Paganistic and worshipped Multiple Gods. It was an act to show that their One God is More Powerful than the Pagan Gods.

  • Zooropa Fly

    Look, you supposedly wanted democracy, now it’s arrived in Egypt shut up and put up. Apart from anything else it’s still unclear whether or not Morsi will be in the back pocket of the CIA as Mubarak was, and ultimately act in favour of US / Israel interests over his own people’s. I hope not. That’s not what democracy is supposed to be.

    As Americans there are currently so many things you should be worrying about, with a Muslim Invasion well below #100 on that list. 

    And don’t anyone on here DARE complain about anyone else destroying antiquities.

  • greywolfrs

    Considering I am a Libertarian and believe this country should be staying completely out of other soverieng nations business, I doubt I support anything. The point is simple, left wingers are following the idea of “spreading democracy.” This will turn out to be worse for those people, no matter what kind of spin you try to place on it. In the end, this will not be good for this country, because stupid left wingers (there you are) think you have the right to tell other countries how they should be and you hated right wingers for the same thing. Remember Iraq? Dunce.

  • greywolfrs

    Again, I am a Libertarian and believe we should keep our noses out of other sovereign nation’s business. It doesn’t matter what I think of those guys, but Mubarak is better than what those people are going to get. Those people did NOT free themselves, especially in Libya. You seem to forget about the bombing that the British, French and US did to make that happen. Without that, those people would have been crushed by the pro-Kadaffi military. Stop with the B S, no one with half a brain believes your lies.

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, you really stop making assumptions. I wanted nothing of the sort. I am Libertarian and believe that we should keep our noses out of other soverieng nation’s business. I find it funny that you stupid left wingers were against it before you were for it. If GWB does it, it’s bad. If Obamao does it, it’s good. You are a hypocrite of the highest order. Keep making assumptions though, that seems to be working GREAT for you. Dumb M F er.

  • greywolfrs

    The funny part about that is the muslims will get their exemption but Christians and Catholics still have to provide contraception…

  • Zooropa Fly

    When I said “you” wanted democracy I meant it’s the U.S. foreign policy facade. 
    I applaud your stance on Sovereign Nations even if you can’t spell it. 

    I’m no Leftie, and if ever a character fitted the anti-christ profile.. it’s Obama – so who’s been jumping to conclusions ?

  • Zooropa Fly

    Morsi has stated he will be representing ALL Egyptians, so let’s wait and see what happens. I’m sure he won’t turn out as big a liar as Obama and stay true to his word at least some of the time. 

    I don’t expect Christians to suffer unduly, although admittedly there have been tensions in the past. It’s worth you noting that in Iran, yes I said Iran, Christians and Jews live peacefully and equally in the Community there, and in fact are highly respected.

    I wouldn’t expect the Sphinx or other Archaeology to be destroyed anytime soon. But time is riddled with individuals and groups who’ve destroyed what went before to erase it from history, none more guilty than the Pharaoh’s of Egypt themselves !! 

  • Porphyry

    And a hearty “Mullah fubar!” to the (unnamed) cleric who’s distributing the latest version of _Islamofascism For Dummies_. To quote Karnak the Magnificent: May the Ganges River back up into your shorts!

  • Anonymous

    Reagrdless of who does it, the fact that it is done should be a wakeup call to the idea that you are dealing with zealots and rational dialogue will get you nowhere. Tha applies to the Christian Inquisition as much Islam. Islam, however, has always stated total world control as their goal. In their minds there can only be justice under Islam so all else must be destroyed.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/07/11/First-the-World-Trade-Centers-Now-the-Great-Pyramids

  • greywolfrs

    The moment you say that we should not be worried about the “muslim invasion,” is the moment I saw right through you. No one was talking about muslims here, we were discussing the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood is behind all those uprisings over there. The Muslim Brotherhood are just as big of terrorists as any other group over there. I find it kind of disturbing that our government is backing them in these uprisings. That is absolutely something, we as Americans, should be concerned with. If you think that should be far down list, I have news for you. That is a primary issue. It is a microcosm of all the things the Feds are doing. Keep thinking it is a very small issue, that is a small minded way of thinking. By the way, most Americans care about who we are giving our money to and the Muslim Brotherhood is a bad idea.

    P.S. I can spell sovereign, I just happened to be doing many things at one time. It’s called multi-tasking.

  • Zooropa Fly

    Multi-tasking, I knew you were a girl !  

    Again you are correct about the US not being a democracy, but the election of a Republican won’t change that. In fact it’s neither a Capitalist country, nor before you say it, COMMY !
    Corporatist is probably close.

    ‘You’ currently have the muslim world effectively disabled- civil wars and tribal/factional conflicts, localised genocides… it’s spreading south through Africa (Mali..) as a direct result of arming malitias in Libya for example. In Syria Christian communities are being ‘cleared’ by armed rebel militia (incl al.q.) – oh but that’s all lies isn’t it ?
    And when I said ‘You’ this time, being from the UK, I really meant ‘We’.

    So anyway they’re in no position to unify and be any threat. But as long as there’s external meddling in their business, a certain number will always want to fight back.
    But don’t take literally ever word ever uttered by any extremist, particularly one of religious persuasion.
    They exist on all sides.

  • Zooropa Fly

    Well look who’s cosying up to  Mr Morsi ?

    Fancy that !

  • Zooropa Fly

    And then Tantawi………. now in Tel Aviv !

    You can join the dots from that can’t you ?