Glenn: 2012 gives America a chance to accomplish another historic milestone

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On radio Wednesday morning, Glenn read a story about Spike Lee claiming that Romney’s Mormonism will ultimately cost him the election. Glenn, however, disagreed. If America was able to overcome past prejudices to elect the first black President in Barack Obama four years ago, does it mean that a man’s religion is an impediment among the American people? Could it be that Spike Lee doesn’t have a high enough opinion of his fellow Americans?

Glenn said, “Here’s the thing I would like to point out: We have had witch trials before and we got past it. We got past religious bigotry of the witch trials. We’ve had hatred of classes of people. We were afraid of the Indians. We’re past that.”

“We used to hate the Irish because they were potato‑eaters. They were drunkards, you know. We hated the Irish. We’re past that. We used to think that all Italians were in the mob. We don’t think that anymore. We used to think that it was okay to enslave an African‑American. We don’t think that anymore.”

Glenn continued that other religious and ethnic minorities have been the victims of similar bigotry, but Americans have always moved past it.

“Thomas Jefferson was right: The people are going to screw it up from time to time, but in the end they will get it right. We got it wrong on slavery, but in the end we get it right. We get it right in the end. We always do. Trust the people. Our time as a country hating people because of skin color and descent or religion is over,” Glenn said.

Glenn then shifted gears to focus on more recent history, specifically the 2008 election and Barack Obama becoming the first black President.

“You know in 2008 we were excited to break a historic barrier. We were. We were excited,” he said.

” It was a big deal to elect the first black president. I remember the broadcast the next morning, I was feeling pretty low because I knew what was coming. I knew this was real trouble. But I also said it is really cool that we’ve just elected a black man. How great is that?”

“But it was made into a bigger deal than it actually was for most Americans, by the media. Because the media had an agenda. They helped usher Obama in. They made it into a bigger deal.”

But in 2012, America has an opportunity to pass a similar milestone with the election of Mitt Romney, whose Mormonism is still a subject of bigotry both today and in American history.

“Wouldn’t it be just as historic to elect a man who’s from a faith that was actually chased out of the country in the 1800s, whose founder was killed because of his anti‑slavery views and the fact that politically they were saying that if the next president in his day wanted to win, they might have to make Smith his VP because he controlled so much of Illinois. Wouldn’t it be just as historic for the people who have the only, the only extermination order in U.S. history, the only one that said you can kill them because of their faith, no other faith has had that in America, thank God. Wouldn’t it be just as historic to then elect this guy?”

Glenn’s answer? “Kinda.”

“It’s a cool milestone, and it is a footnote,” he explained. “Historic? Yes. In the academic sort of way.”

“I believe in the real America. America took the signs down. We didn’t hang a “no blacks” sign on the door of the Oval Office. We didn’t hang a “no Jews” sign on the office. We didn’t hang a ‘no Mormons’ sign on the office. It was the left and the media that hung those signs there. We’ve taken those signs down one by one over a long period of time and with a lot of blood, sweat and tears. Most Americans at least my age and lower judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin or religious background.”

Nevertheless, Glenn pointed out that 18% of people said they would not vote for a Mormon, but only 4% of Americans would not vote for an African American.

“But it’s no big deal really because we’ll get it right in time. If it’s not Mitt Romney, it will be somebody else. We’ve already elected ‑‑ is this really a big deal? We’ve already elected Orrin Hatch, we’ve already elected Harry Reid. It’s only a big deal if he’s a conservative,” Glenn continued.

“Think about this: Wouldn’t it be something to show the rest of the world as they are now announcing in Egypt that under Sharia law they are going to have to get rid of the great pyramids of Giza.,” he said. “As the world is wrestling with neo‑Nazis who are now killing people because they’re immigrants or because they’re a different race, color, creed, the world has the rise of neo‑Nazis. The world has the rise of Sharia law which will erase every other religion.”

“Look at America. We just elected somebody of a different color and it was really no big deal, for most Americans. And we’ll elect somebody based on their values and their principles, not their religion. Wow.”

“What a historic election 2012 will be. Two different stereotypes shot down one after another. You see, what the media doesn’t understand is Americans are great people, and maybe the elites and the elites in the media, the elites in Washington, the elites in academia will surprise us someday and stop being surprised by Americans and their decency. Maybe someday the self‑entitled enlightened in the press will catch us, us God‑fearing, gun‑toting flyover hicks, and they’ll understand that we’ve always voted for people of character, we voted for values, we believe in principles, and we believe in the facts. That’s what we do in the end. It’s what makes America great. It’s what makes America exceptional. Other places may not vote for a Mormon. Other places may not vote for a black man. Other places may not vote for a white man. Other places may not vote for somebody with a funny name.”

“In the hand of the Statue of Liberty is a torch, but that’s not what it’s called. What she’s holding in her hand is imprisoned lightning. The power of lightning captured with liberty… and justice… for all.”

  • Anonymous

    just about any body breathing on the planet, or at least an American citizen, is preferred over who we have now….

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Yes we have a chance to change history once again; yet it will depend on awakening enough of the people of the nation before the election, and assuming that Obama does not make a final, mad dash for absolute power and plunge us into a civil war.

  • The Craig Machine

    Wake up! Glenn Beck is using the same political correct propaganda as
    the Left did to elect Barrack Obama. This is all about mainstreaming
    Mormonism.

    What Glenn Beck is really saying:

    “Please ignore all the kooky things Mormons believe and be a part of making history by electing the first Mormon President.”

    Romney’s faith in a religion built on falsehoods should make everyone question his judgment. What other lies is Romney going to believe that will make him flip-flop on the issues? Or should I say, “What other lies is Romney going to tell you as to why he flip-flopped?”?

    This is a fine mess the GOP has gotten the country into by nominating Romney as the alternative to Obama. Either way, Progressives win and Freedom loses.

  • landofaahs

    I’m not into the sympathy vote.  It’s time we quit trying to atone for all past wrongs and move forward to liberty and responsibility for all, not just the person who wants served at the lunch counter, but the rights of the owner of that counter.  Why the heck do people want to support a racist restaurant owner?  If you don’t want someone’s business then you suffer the economic loss.  My views on mormonism are not going to change with or without Mitt in the white house.  I don’t feel the need to atone for my beliefs either.

  • w. Parker

    A progressive speech, spoken by a true progressive. Glenn, the % statistics you give, what are their source? No one solicited me for my opinion, was anyone else here asked for theirs? Speaking of racism, who was booed at the current NAACP convention – a “white” Romney

  • w. Parker

    There are (3) Americas:  (1) Liberals, socialist/communist, law breaking amoral freaks who use, abuse and tear down the system, (2) Ignorant, unsure, unknowingly brainwashed followers with limited common sense who call themselves conservative but who share a 50/50 – conservative/liberal belief and who look for a leader to guide them and give them direction, (3) true conservatives see the world and situations for what it really is and need minimal reinforcement of their beliefs. Their objective is not so much conformity as much as to exercise their individualistic God given brain and right to think, feel, vote, rent, and sell what is theirs to whom they want – without being chastised by those who think they know better

  • http://twitter.com/KarenHuntingto1 Karen Huntington

    Please ignore all the kooky things Mormons believe and be a part of making history by electing the first Mormon President. http://MayorMoney.blogspot.com

  • Anonymous

    Smith wasn’t killed for his anti-slavery message, he was killed in a riot whilst awaiting trial.

    Odd bit of revisionism there.

  • Anonymous

    At least he’s not a communist

  • Anonymous

    Heluva choice to make huh?  A pagan or a muslim?

  • Anonymous

    “whose founder was killed because of his anti‑slavery views”

    That’s not true, Joseph Smith was killed by a mob of disgruntled LDS members who were primarily angry over polygamy. Anti-slavery comes in as one of the many reasons (including polygamy) that Missouri chased the LDS members out of the state and issued the expel/exterminate order.

  • Anonymous

    I believe they’re from a Gallup poll. The numbers look accurate to me based on what I remember from the poll. 

  • Anonymous

    Shouldn’t a candidate be judged on their policies, not gender, religion, or skin color?
    When I hire someone to do a job for me, all I care about is the best person for the job. Shouldn’t the candidates for the most important job in the free world be chosen the same way?

  • Anonymous

    Meg–Great comments Glenn. You have it down pat. It is a shame that the main stream media and a lot of other people don’t have it figured out as well. There are some who need to get the cobwebs out of their brain, and do some clearer thinking. We need more Common Sense today, than what is being shown. Keep up the good work.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKMLAM7GHCGHIGNXECMO7YYMUI nancy

    Harry “  ; are you kiddin ‘ ?

  • https://TJOHARA.com/ T.J. O’Hara

    Personally, I would like to see the electorate put aside its apparent fascination with achieving categorical “firsts” and, instead, vote on a basis of who has the best ideas to solve our Nation’s problems.

    I would not be America’s first independent President, but you have to admit that its first one was pretty good.  I hope you’ll at least consider exercising the Liberty you have to vote for someone other than whom the Parties dictate.  http://TJOHARA.com

  • Anonymous

    No, would it help if I said I was liberal?

  • Anonymous

    Our religion is based on the example and teachings of the Lord, Jesus Christ–period.  I invite anyone who wants to know the real truth about the Church or Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints, to study and seek the truth for themselves.  A good place to start is http://www.lds.org.  The next thing I would recommend is opening your heart, getting on your knees, and praying about it.     

  • Tony Draxx

    I really don’t understand what all the fuss is about, so what if he is Mormon…

    What really matters is if he is a man of Moral Fiber and Integrity, and really tries to set the US on the right path (I said path on purpose because there is no instant solution to the many problems that are plagueing the U.S./World right now).  And he Must Not be an Advocate for Globalization, Every Society that has grown too large has Failed/Fallen!

    Besides WE Only Have Two Choices – Obummer -or- Romney…
    It doesn’t matter if every one of us that makes $1 million or less voted for Mickey Mouse (just an example name).  The Electoral College would Not Vote for him just because they all have their own agendas, and Only one of either Obummer or Romney would be elected.  *One of the Biggest Failures of America is having an electoral college that can cast votes that count, it should be a True General Election and every Legal Voter should have their say in the matter. I think that twice the electoral people voted in a president against the Popular American Votes, why is that even possible? (Rhetorical Question)

    One Vote Per Man/Woman and it completely counts if they are Legal Voters…

  • The Craig Machine

     No, it is based on lies of Joseph Smith in the Book of Mormon using the name Jesus Christ to gain followers.

    I also invite anybody who wants to seek the truth for themselves to do so. I would suggest finding a independent website from that of the said group which is in question.

  • The Craig Machine

     Romney IS a advocate of Globalization. Has anybody ever heard of U.N. Agenda 21 and Romney’s record in Massachusetts?

    What you are advocating is Democracy with only a Popular Vote count. I thank the Founding Fathers everyday for inserting the Electoral College. We are a Republic not a Democracy.

  • Anonymous

    Not exactly. Even the tue conservatives have their flaws, as they can’t fix problems that were created by the liberals. How many conservatives were against Bush, especially in his second term? He continued to add to the mess that Clinton created and even started a war that cost Americans billions. Did he even try to straighten the financial mess that was coming?No, he actually added to it. I, myself, consider me a conservative at the core, but a true conservative leader should be able to clean out Washington’s closet. Instead, your elected conservatives keep adding to America’s woes.

  • Anonymous

    Not being funny…. but what happened to the white side of Obama? He had a white mother that raised him and white grandparents that raised him and a black father that took off. He is half white and half black! He is just as much if not more White as he is Black. The color of any person should not matter. What a person stands for and does with their lives does matter.

  • Anonymous

    The most stark difference between Mormonism and Christianity is that Mormonism emphasizes personal responsibility to a greater extent than Christianity and Christianity emphasizes our personal reliance on God’s grace and Jesus suffering on the cross…a little more than Mormonism does.  Mormons do not espouse multiple spouses anymore, except a small minority of them.  Basically, a Mormon being elected to office won’t follow the lead of the guy we currently have who is using Jefferson’s separation of church and state to instead eliminate the church by means of the state.  I’m not frightened by a Mormon being president, just like I’m not frightened to visit and comment on the website of a Mormon like Glenn Beck.  I am a Christian and hold no animosity towards Mormons or black people.  I hold animosity towards Obama, but that animosity has nothing to do with the color of his skin.

  • Anonymous

    RON PAUL–  RON PAUL IS STILL A GO.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Caruso/1587245855 Sandy Caruso

    I assume you will be leaving for Mars soon? While you’re boarding please take pastor Jeffries with you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNO55UWU6MEXAEUTDZNCCLSJFU Olivia

     My word. Surely you don’t believe that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Caruso/1587245855 Sandy Caruso

    It’s a little know fact Joseph Smith ran for the Presidency of the United States on the platform of abolishing slavery by 1850. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

  • Anonymous

    I’m thinking about Gary Johnson as well.

  • Anonymous

     What kind of American are you? The popular American vote does not elect the president, the Electoral College – a body representing the various States – does so. Read your Constitution – the one James Madison wrote, not the one Obama follows. The Electoral College and a bicameral federal legislature are the two cornerstones of the Connecticut Compromise, which broke a logjam and led to the ratification of the Constitution in 1787.

    God forbid the popular vote ever elects a president – the Electoral College has saved us several times already. Just ask President Gore.

  • Anonymous

    So what?  it’s just another Religion that also believes in God. We voted for a Catholic and it didn’t hurt us.  Mormonism didn’t do any harm in Massachusetts.  As long as it is not Sharia that will lead us to the dark ages any Religion that a person may have is fine with me.

  • Tony Draxx

    Lgbpop, you didn’t read where I said There Is An Electoral College!

    You sound like another one of those Liberals who think that a common Man/Woman Cannot Think For Themselves, and a Few People in closed quarters make the decision for the Many.  Like they always make the right decisions… How the heck do you think Obama got into the Presidency? I don’t think they did me any damn favors by electing that jerk!!!

  • http://twitter.com/Deepizzaguy George Bernard Vieto

    We also elected a Roman Catholic president in John F. Kennedy.

  • Tony Draxx

    Then if the Electoral College is so wonderful and open, how come I don’t get the chance to Vote in the Representatives for my District (so I know that they at least lean towards my political views).

  • Anonymous

    You keep claiming Obama is Muslim. By that standard shouldn’t his presidency be an accomplishment too? This irony escapes you -_- as usual.

  • w. Parker

    Read my post again.  You obviously fall within the (2) catagory.  You first say you are a conservative, then end your post stating “your elected conservatives keep adding to america’s woes.”  By the way, who mentioned Bush?  Me?, no you did.  Perhaps the democrapic party is a better fit for you

  • Anonymous

     Then make your point more clearly, because this is what stood out without crediting it to anyone so I assumed it was your own sentiment:

     ”One of the Biggest Failures of America is having an electoral college
    that can cast votes that count, it should be a True General Election and
    every Legal Voter should have their say in the matter. I think that
    twice the electoral people voted in a president against the Popular
    American Votes, why is that even possible?”

    Certainly sounds as if you are advocating direct election, which would marginalize some smaller states even more so than they are now. If this was someone else’s quote, say so. I stand by what I (and you) said.

  • Anonymous

    Romney is a true patriot and a decent, honest, successful man.  His religion believes in God. What is negative about that?  For those who hesitate about his religion I would have to question why?  Is that your focus?  I want a president I can trust.  I trust and respect Romney. I do not have that with Obama.  Does it give Obama alot of satisfaction to lie to the American people?  Our country deserves better.

  • w. Parker

    Polls are as scientific as voodoo magic.  Were you polled?  Know anyone who was polled?  Kerry received 90% of the black vote because he is a radical communist who would institute liberal policies favoring minorities.  Tell me, why hasn’t obimbo, who’s black been booed, as it is his policies which account for the high rate of unemployment for blacks. 

  • Anonymous

    Americans will not vote against Gov. Romney because he is a Mormon; they will vote for him because:

    1. He is a free market capitalist who will get the government off of the back of small, and large, business.
    2. He is not a race-baiter nor did he hire one as Attorney General.
    3. He will lower taxes and allow workers to spend more of the money they earn.
    4. He is an honest, loving family man who loves America.
    5. Romney’s wife has ALWAYS been proud of America.
    6. He won’t bow to Muslim leaders nor will he constantly apologize to them for American greatness.
    7. He believes in the inherent goodness and greatness of the American people.
    8. His operatives have never assisted in the murder of a Border Patrol Agent.
     

  • w. Parker

    You had previously claimed you were a conservative. The only thing certain is that you’re a lying idiot

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWAAFFBVKAROICVSLJNTZJPMBA HELEN

    Obama is not black.  He’s Arab-American.  His Kenyan father, a muslim, would have been counted among the Arabs on the Swahili coast by virtue of his religion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWAAFFBVKAROICVSLJNTZJPMBA HELEN

    Actually, Bert, the Mormon theology is quite different fm orthodoxy.  Jesus became God not was God fm the Beginning.  Adam became a god, etc.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tlstafford1 Thomas L. Stafford

    Tony, I think
    Lgbpop was responding to your implication that the Electoral College
    is something new. I infered the same when I read your first comment.
    It has been there since we became a representative republic. The
    popular vote would have given us Obama.
    Lgbpop was correct that the popular vote would have given us Al Gore.
    I shudder to think what his presidency may have been like. It may
    have caused an awakening of our middle right populace eight years
    earlier.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tlstafford1 Thomas L. Stafford

    Romney was the governor of
    Massachusetts, not exactly a bastion of conservatism when the state
    legisilature passed their version of health care. The results of the
    inactment of the law in Massachusetts including higher insurance
    costs, higher costs for medical care, and higher taxes provide a
    warning of what will happen if this terrible law is allowed to stand.
    I think that these are a large part of the reason that he now oposes
    it.

    I hope that the Supreme Court’s Allawance of this travisty completes the awakening of people who value personal achievement, personal reponsibility, and personal charity, the only real charity over government handouts. The 2010 midterms were just a mere warning shot over the bow of the progressive dreadnaught if it has. 2012 and 2014 will be broadsides.

  • Anonymous

    Meg–DaWd, sorry to disappoint you, but that is not true. You should know the truth before you spout out lies. The riot you speak of, happened when Joseph, his brother Hyrum and others were on their way to Carthage, IL. voluntary. A mob, who wanted to kill Joseph was there, and had been drinking and brawling all day started a riot, but was calmed down. It was three days after this, that the mob surrounded the jail where Joseph, his brother Hyrum and two other ” Mormons ‘ were being held, went into the jail killed Joseph and Hyrum, and seriously wounded one of the others. One thing the mob did not like was that Joseph was anti-slavery. There was a lot more evil done against the LDS, and Joseph was never found guilty of things he was arresed for.

  • Anonymous

    I know I know Helen…The post you’ve replied to is my TWO testament, they just added another one. They are kind of like the opposite of the Jews, who disregard ONE of ours instead of adding ONE. I need to add that you are 100% correct here.

  • Anonymous

    sorry i accidently deleted part of this post, second sentence incoherent… “The post you’ve replied to is my best attempt at diplomacy, Mormons have read our TWO testaments, they just added another one.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/tlstafford1 Thomas L. Stafford

    I do not know what state you live in so I do not know how your electors to the Republican and Democrat conventions are chosen.  

  • Tony Draxx

    Lgbpop, I can respect your response very much so, I went back and read my statement and it did not come out as clear as I had thought it should have.

    And the size of a State should have a direct correlation to the amount of input they have, because if states had more Sovereignty then they could “attract” more people to occupy them.  Plus, if people don’t think those states are worth living in then the people of those states should find out why and make improvements that can benefit new comers…

    *Note: When they came up with the Electoral College there were only 13 States to be concerned with, they did not take into account expansion and now we have 50 States of different sizes and the original design isn’t a “One size fits all”.

  • Anonymous

    he conveniently skipped over the history of mormonism in this country and the BIG WHY their GOSPEL and WARS were viewed as pernicious

  • http://windows-registry-cleaner.net richllewis

    Look I am a Baptist and Romney is a Mormon. I can have a heck of a theological discussion on this subject. But Mitt Romney was not selected on his religion. There will be some who will vote against Romney because of those theological differences. But if you wanted someone different you had your chance to vote for the others. The issue is not religion. The issue is Barak Obama and where he is taking our country. This is no time for discussing religious differences. This is no time for bringing up any Christian apologetics on this subject and the subject of who is a cult or not. This is about saving our country. If we do not get rid of Barak Obama, there will not be time to talk about these type of things because Christians will be persecuted in this country like never before if Obama gets back in. And you can depend on it.

  • Anonymous

    Put it this way,I would rather a Morman than a Muslim for President and not just any Muslim a Radical Islamist!Why doesn’t anyone mention Barry-Hussein-Osama oops Obama…once islam always an islam! He even proved with everything he has done that Hussein-Obama is an anti-American Islamist terrorist!..so of course I’d rather have a Morman…at least he believes in Christ…our God and Father!

  • http://twitter.com/paoligarcy Paolina Garcia

     Tony, if Obama decides NOT to use his buddies at SEIU/Acorn to fraud the election in the first place, that is.

    I see why you attacked me earlier for believing in secession: apparently you believe Romney will magically fix America and stop it’s inevitable decline.

    That kind of wishful thinking must be nice. As for us realists, we know that Romney is at best a band-aid, and perhaps one that would do us more harm than good.

    If Romney wins, it means conservatives go back to sleep for 4-8 years while the demographic shift moves permanently in favor of the democrats via illegal immigration and the decadence of the voters in generation X and the even worse ones coming in generation Y.

    All democrats have to do is sit back and wait. That’s why we conservatives have no option but secession. There is no way to overhaul immigration and protect our culture while Yankees who don’t border Mexico pass laws to stop us on the border from protecting ourselves.

    They shouldn’t get a vote on what laws there are for a border they aren’t near!

  • Anonymous

    Barry-Hussein-Osama oops Obama has to play the religion card he plays every card in the book! see every week there is a different crises different scandel  because everything is a distraction…from his record…he play on his record there are no accomplishments…just terrorism by his own hand! and even all the jobs he created was in the IRS and inJustice Dept
    with the Black Panthers and SEIU….The New Gestapo! and why wouldn’t they be the New Gestapo…because Hussein-Obama’s Puppet Master is George Schwartz Soros…who hid
    being Jewish and worked himself for the Nazi’s!…the ultimate anti-semetic Jew!…the battle which has been going on since the beginning of time….after all Hussein-Obama’s Bible he lived by is Rules-For-Radicals…which is a book dedicated to Lucifer! why else is this war on Christians and Jews…the only two Religions created by The One and Only God Almighty!!!
    Know God Know Truth,No God No Truth!!

  • Anonymous

    Yes! and these people running the country does not understand or want to understand our Founding Fathers! separation of church and state meant to keep the State Out Of Our Churches Not To Keep Our Churches Out Of The State! A Country Cannot Stand Without Belief In God! George Washington Won The Revolutionary War with the smallest Army because of his belief in God….He Didn’t Do Anything Without asking God First! It is Not The color of his skin it is his content of character which is rotten…
    he has no heart…just love for himself. I hope people wake up and see him as he really is there is only one person he cares for and it is himself! healthcare law is not about healthcare for all it is about making US his slaves…his peasants! He doesn’t care for Martin Luther King jr or his mission or helping fellow blacks…he cares only for himself he never wanted to President of America he wants to be president..Dictator of the World!he is in charge of IMF n UN…All part of Lord Sidious- Soros’ New World Order
    While Hussein-Obama accomplishes Dreams From My Father THe Destruction of America Soros Gets His One World Government!! God Help US!!! What We Have To Do besides voting Republican..is speak up speak the Truth To All! Believe in God Get others Back To God He will be the only one to save US! after all Hussein-Obama Bible he lived by is Rules-For-Radicals which is Dedicated To Lucifer!
    God Will Bless America When America Blesses God…again!!

  • Anonymous

    You are wrong, the Electoral College gives Equal voice to all states, regardless of size. You are advocating for the lesser populated states have less of a representation of their people? 

    I think you meant exactly what  you stated: 

     ”One of the Biggest Failures of America is having an electoral college that can cast votes that count, it should be a True General Election andevery Legal Voter should have their say in the matter. I think that twice the electoral people voted in a president against the Popular American Votes, why is that even possible?” 

    You do not understand how the Electoral College protects and keeps radical elements in check, or from a whim, a passionate response that may strike certain segments of the citizenry in a heavily populated state as example: California, yet middle America may not agree. Equal voice, equal representation.

    Better bone up on your knowledge, T.D. 

  • Crystal Junior

    I hope you don’t mind if I gently correct you, bert28.  I am a Mormon. Mormons are Christians.  I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.  It is through His Grace that I am saved and by no other means.  I liked the rest of your comment here. :)

  • Anonymous

    Kerry is not a commie. Obama is how you spell his name, and the reason he hasn’t been booed is because he keeps proposing jobs bills to put people to work while Republicans think black people are lazy moochers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Skip-Gilmore/1251551289 Skip Gilmore

     And your list could go on and on and on…………………

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Skip-Gilmore/1251551289 Skip Gilmore

     I don’t think too many people would call that an accomplishment but technically….not a statistic we can be proud of.

  • Tony Draxx

    Paolina, one of the biggest concerns I have is “Sleepers” who disguise their intentions, there is no way to tell what side people are on in Politics until they show their true colors.  The bad people intent on destroying the greastest country that has ever existed do not publicly display their intentions.  And anymore it’s hard to tell the good from the bad, because they are in all corners (Liberal, Democrat, Republican, Independent, and Any Other Political Party).

    Plus, secession gives me one Huge Concern…

    One of the biggest tactics in Military Maxim is “Divide & Conquer”.  Are we really stronger if States go Separate Ways?  I know there is no easy answer for that question, when we are in a sink-or-swim situation…

  • Tony Draxx

    a_bone_2_pick, you are forgetting a couple factors…
    If there are people in power who have the ability to take everything away from you that you have worked so hard your entire life to obtain/achieve.  Extortion and Coersion are pretty powerful tools (ask the CIA), you can force a smaller body of people much more easily than a large group in the hundreds of millions…

    Prison guards are always at risk of being overwhelmed during riots/breakouts, simply because they are hugely outnumbered.  But, when it is 4 or more guards taking care of a few locked up in solitary confinement, they are not as concerned about uprisings because they have more control over the inmates.

  • w. Parker

    If you’re going to post here, at least be honest without playing childish “games” as you’re doing.  You’re a dang liberal and a typical lying one too.  Kerry is a walking/talking communist zombie and a anti war cowardly protestor.  Republicans have submitted many job proposals which sat on Harry Reid’s desk gathering dust and spider webs for over 2 years.  That  statement about blacks, is not mine, that’s your wording, are you black?  By the way you forgot to blame Bush

  • http://www.facebook.com/IrishLass55 Colleen Benedict

    So well written…and accurate as well!
    So many false Patriots on here…you stand above.
    BRAVO!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Romney would become the first tax-dodger to get elected to the White House.

  • Anonymous

    What do you two mean “OUR” testaments?  All of the Scriptures belong to all Christians.  Read the Book of Mormon it belongs to you too.  It is another testament of Jesus Christ.  Get over your prejudices and stop the bigotry.  Love one another be a Christian in more name.  That is what Glean is trying to say.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not lying if I think I’m accurate, it would just be me being wrong i I were wrong. I’m not black, I just bothered to pay attention to what it is they care about.

  • Anonymous

    I have never claimed I was a conservative. You must be mixing me up with someone else… or lying.

  • Anonymous

    Spike Lee is quite the raciest in his own right. Does he have a birth name? I know parents would not name their child Spike, unless they were crack heads. Besides that is a name for a dog!! I wonder if is parents really wanted a dog?
    That statement Spikeo made about blacks would not vote for a Mormon, I assume Spikeo would be referring to all African descendant people walking in lock-step behind Obama for creating the biggest giveaway program, both domestic and world wide, in the history of the USA.
    A great many African-Americans have made a good living in these United States by working and I do not believe they would jeopardize their savings, investments and retirement as well as their children’s future by walking in lock-step behind someone who has proven to be as anti-American as any dictator of any country there ever was.   

  • Sandie

    Prove your smear.

  • Anonymous

    Well said. This election is not about religious ideology or lack thereof, it is about the workers having control over what they make and an intrusive Federal government making inroads into everything. Limited Government is presently a thing of the past, thanks in large part to Obama and his crew. 
    The vote in November will decide whether Americans can accept what has happened and will continue to happen with ever increasing speed to our country or whether we will put a stop to this Mad man and start on the way back from this precipice edge from which we hang. 
      

  • CaptainAmerica

    He can’t, he is only capable of regurgitating left wing talking points that have already been proven false.

  • CaptainAmerica

    You are not even a good liar. The first tax evader elected would be your candidate Obama. He’s like you – never told the truth about anything his entire life.
    He accepted gifts from foundations to attend college as a foreign national, and later in life claimed he was born in the US. He started lying for money back in his first year of his university education and hasn’t stopped since then.

    Just like you.

  • Anonymous

    I do not think Rich Lewis set out to deceive by skipping over anything. You are inferring the same thing about Mormonism as was said about J F Kennedy and Catholicism.
    Want to do some inferring, try Muslim tyrants who raped, pillaged and plundered and still do.Muslims have not evolved one iota, their bloody past is their bloody present and will be their bloody future!!!
    We should not be talking about religions as this election is not to fill any kind of religious post!! Do you as the agent of inference understand that or are you just trying to get a dig in on Mormonism by some back door slight of the hand of a practicing atheist.
     
    By the way, you self proclaimed Sherlock of religious history, that was a poor use of the word pernicious, did you just learn that word and want to share it. Why don’t you just say, ” I just learned a new word” and you might not be perceived as the block head that you are!!!   

  • Anonymous

    classy..

  • Anonymous

    All true-all true-all true

  • Anonymous

    True and grand answer

  • Anonymous

    IF PEOPLE WOULD ONLY GOOGE MORMON THEY WOULD SEE THAT THIS A CHRISTIAN RELIGION. AND GLEN IS CORRECT HARRY REID AND ORIN HATCH HAVE ALREADY BEEN ELECTED THE GREAT MORMON IS GLEN BECK SO THESE PEOPLE NEED TO STOP THE NONSENCE. VOTE FOR VALUE. VOTE THE MORON AND NOT THE MORON.

  • Anonymous

    I admit I am a little detached from pop culture, decidely so, but who is pastor Jeffries? I really do believe any American patriot who has any business sense is/would be a much better president than barry sotoro hussien obama. he’s a disaster and it’s not accidental. get him 4 more years and I am not sure there will even be a presidential election in ’16..  

  • Anonymous

    In days gone by, Americans would tell me that there are certain Americans who would never see a member of their group become President: (1) a Roman Catholic, especially if he was of Irish origin; (2) an African-American; (3) a woman; (4) a Jew. No one even mentioned the impossibility of a Mormon or someone with a Moslem connection of of being the POTUS!
    Well, No. 1 was overturned with the election of John F. Kennedy and No. 2 with the election of Barack H. Obama. So now we wait to see whether No. 3 and No. 4 will ever be overturned. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ABWG7LDK2VX23KWINRPMN6YBWM NotMyFault

    The Book of Mormon’s purpose is to testify of Jesus Christ.  It teaches over and over that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and Savior of the world and that only through Him is salvation possible.  Have you ever read it through for yourself? 

    And why would I (or anyone) who wants to find out about a particular religion not go to said religion’s website?  If I want to find out about the Baptist faith, shouldn’t I go to a Baptist website or talk to a Baptist?  Or talk to someone who is Jewish about Judaism?  Or ask a Catholic about Catholicism?

  • Anonymous

    We need Mr. Rommney, he is our only chance to restore our country to greatness I don’t care how he worships I believe he is a man of character and stands in the way of tyranny and government oppression. we need to go back to go forward lol I truly believe Obama is an evil man wishing to destroy our beloved United States of America. Please get past the Mormanism
    And judge this man on his life accomplishments in business but more importantly as a father and husband.

  • Anonymous

    America is the greatest nation that has ever been on this earth. We are a blessed nation by God. However you whorship in its self is a testiment of that fact that we have a choice given by a Bill of Rights and Constitution. 
    There will always be choices that we make as a nation that will not fit 100% with all that live here. But, as we discuss our options, agreeing and diagreeing just as we are doing now, it can make us stronger. I come from a large family and yes we had our own opinions and desires but we never have forgot that we are family first, just as we are a national family.
    I feel so blessed to have been born in this great country. My first ancestors came in early 1600, as one of the first 3 jews, to Jamestown, Va. One came as an indentured servant for 7 seven years, then married one of the other jews and started a family. The family has gone through many changes especially in the area of relegion, various prostestant beliefs (Baptist,Methodist,Church Of Christ, and ect.) Today I stand as a proud member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, yes a Morman. So you see, we all most likely have similar family history stories & connections that link us together as family. We as a nation can and will change for the better and worse sometimes, but we must remain dilligent towards the truths and desires of the founding fathers, to provide a nation of freedoms for the people and by the people.
    It is important that we keep talking with each other whether we agree or not. God will help us as long as we ask for his help. The Founding Fathers knew this and did so, very often.
    Sorry but us Old timers get all patriotic sometimes, just felt like jumping in, God bless you and this great nation. 
     

  • Anonymous

    No matter if I feel that a Mormon is not a Christian, or a Christian is not a Mormon, it doesn’t matter. You and I are one with God when we use the words “laus deo” to address each other. If you believe that you are saved by God’s grace and by NO OTHER MEANS, then yes, you are a Christian. What’s important is how all human beings handle the people who disagree with them. If your thought here is how most Mormons think, believe me I have zero problems with what you’ve said here. May the peace of the Lord Jesus Christ be and abide with you…always :)

  • w. Parker

    Well, oscumbag is the first homosexual, muslim, communist to ever call the oval office his home…But, i do hope you’re right that Romney will give the homo his walking papers to go back to Kenya – his birth place

  • The Craig Machine

    Let me pull out my Seer’s Stone and look into my hat for what I shall post.

    Which Jesus Christ are you following? Is it the one whose brother is Lucifer or the Jesus that was born to the Virgin Mother Mary? You also forgot that servitude to the Church is also a requirement for salvation. Remember, you can’t become Gods yourselves and go to that third Heaven (VIP Only) unless you serve the Church itself.

    You believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is
    translated correctly, you also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word
    of God which only through the Book of Mormon and the LDS can the Bible be properly translated. So in reality, you believe in Joseph Smith’s skewed interpretations of the Bible that has no merit.The LDS like many subversive groups use similar language to try and blend in with the group it is trying to subvert, “The wolf in sheep’s clothing” if you will.

  • The Craig Machine

    There is a reason why it was named Romney Care. If Romney was forced by a liberal legislature to sign a health care law, then why is he still lying about how wonderful it is or was? Why was he grinning like the Cheshire Cat to Senator Ted Kennedy when he signed it into law? I think we both know the reasons why.

    Romney still remains the only Governor, Republican or Democrat, to ever sign into law a Health Care Bill that mandates citizens to buy health care insurance for the soul purpose of being alive.

    What a curious predicament Republicans have put themselves in by nominating another Progressive to battle a Progressive. Republicans now have to defend Romney for the very same thing they are attacking Democrats for. Hypocrisy much?

  • w. Parker

    A side effect of equality legislation is that it reduces conversation and stifles debate on important social issues, as anyone who raises an important point about race, sexual practices or religion is immediately branded as racist by their opponents. Last year an article in the Guardian newspaper openly discussed what the benefits of mind controlling drugs were and how they could be used to reduce racism, aggression, anxiety and a host of other behaviours that were deemed to be socially unacceptable, and even mentioned putting dangerous drugs into the water supply to modify entire populations, a practice openly discussed earlier last year when the use of lithium compounds was suggested to prevent suicides

  • Anonymous

    Doesn’t sound like “Great America” Glenn keeps talking about. Sounds like our-religion-only America -_-

  • Anonymous

     Also, Mormons believe we will all become gods.  (is what they’ve told me) 

  • Anonymous

     Also, Mormons believe we will all become gods.  (is what they’ve told me) 

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I will vote for Romney!  I would far rather have a Mormon as President, than a Muslim.  I just hope he will be strong, and not too nice.  He is such a gentleman, I worry that he won’t take a strong enough stand on things.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    That’s the kind of emotional and irrational hatred we’re used to seeing on Beck’s website. 

    I hope you plan on attending Restoring Love: you desperately need it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    And writing of irrational hatred, you don’t back your assertions up at all…because you CAN’T!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Apparently you don’t understand why wealthy people use offshore tax shelters.

  • OscarK44

    Think of the problem the Jews would have if they wanted to rebuild The Temple and destroyed the al-Aqsa Mosque.

  • Anonymous

    T.D., I’ll reply here because you didn’t reply in Dashboard, which always has a “reply” button.

    The Electoral College was put in place just for these set of circumstances…equal representation, equal voice.

    The voters of each state choose their Electors in each state who represent the people’s vote. Electors in 24 States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate. The rest are by State law or pledges. How they achieve the numbers of Electors is the only thing you were correct on- the Census.

    The rest are by State law or pledges. If you don’t like the way your
    state represents your vote, you change it, by the peoples consent, using
    constitutional measures. You can’t pick and choose what parts of the
    Constitution you want for your particular circumstances. This is what
    has led to this sad state we find ourselves in today…and unwillingness
    to embrace the totality of the Constitution/ Bill of Rights, except
    where it benefits or detracts from your particular wants.

    Your willingness to forgo one part of the Constitution and the measures
    to obtain changes, explains where your thought processes are. Either the
    citizens accept that the Founders used wisdom in drafting our
    representative Republic, or you are of the mindset that is Obama- a
    living breathing , ever changing document subject to whomever happens to
    be in power.
    There are Constitutional measures in place every step of the way to
    protect our Republic using law abiding means, this is what separates us
    from every nation on this planet. If the citizens who are the Government
    choose to not effect change then they deserve to lose the Greatest
    Nation on Earth.

    Too many people are willing to voice their opposition to any given set
    of circumstances, limiting their participation to a peripheral level,
    for it demands nothing of them….where are your boots on the ground in
    this fight using Constitutional measures to achieve change? 

  • Anonymous

    The height of hypocrisy coming from the king of lies, who’s singular claim to fame is an emotional and irrational hatred of truth. Of course we have to take into account your mental deficiency and descent into lunacy. 

  • CaptainAmerica

    Reposted from 8 hours ago – Apparently not only can you not tell the truth, you can’t read either:

    Proof you and your talkingpointsmemo.com’s Josh Marshall are openly lying:
    “Romney took a leave of absence in February 1999 to head the Salt Lake City Organizing Committee for the 2002 Winter Olympics, and he did not return to the company. He became governor of Massachusetts in January 2003″
    http://factcheck.org/2012/06/o
    Just because he is listed as CEO on two filings linked in Josh’s article, does not explain how they were obtained, and whether or not they are legitimate documents. It is just as possible Josh could have falsified these filings since no one before or since has “discovered” them. The fact it comes from a liberal source makes it already suspect.
    You show us an independent and verifiable source making the same assertion and then you have something, but a left wing loon like you isn’t getting any traction on this issue with your poof-truth here.
    You lose again.

  • Anonymous

    T.D., by your definition, the Founders could not have foreseen the expansion of the fire arms industry, and therefore not  included the 2nd. Amendment because they hadn’t the foresight to envision such?

    You are a liberal, and don’t even know it.

  • Anonymous

    What’s the “we” stuff Beavis? You’re the one spreading the emotional and irrational hatred on this website! You have said worse about Beck…and anyone who challenges your stupid comments.

    I guess you will take your Beck-hate with you to Restoring Love, right? Your history and reputation speak loudly to what you need: Psychiatric HELP!

  • Anonymous

    With the exception of The District of Columbia, you get in on the ground floor, the local level, this is the beauty of the Constitution, it represents the people(s) choices.

    Apparently, you are from Colorado, Maine or Nebraska…The process for selecting electors varies throughout the United States. Generally, the political parties nominate electors at their State party conventions or by a vote of the party’s central committee in each State. Electors are often selected to recognize their service and dedication to their political party. They may be State elected officials, party leaders, or persons who have a personal or political affiliation with the Presidential candidate. Then the voters in each State choose the electors on the day of the general election. The electors’ names may or may not appear on the ballot below the name of the candidates running for President, depending on the procedure in each State. Your best bet is to join the Central Committee, of which I am one in my state. Every citizen has a duty to be involved on the local level, this is the power base of the United States…everyone must remember we are the government, they are our employees only.All legislation, laws, representatives of our Democratic Republic originate from “We the People.” Simply complaining about what you find deficient in our system will not grant you change…you have to put your money where your mouth is, so to speak (boots on the ground.) 

  • Anonymous

    Blow it out your ass, Butthead. You don’t back up your assertions EVER. Not to mention that your assertions don’t make sense. Last topic you were on you were all for planting artificial trees and making hydrogen gas engines for race cars!!!

    You CAN’T, DON’T, WON’T back up ANYTHING you say with facts.

    WTF do you think you are? Master of the Universe? Do you actually believe that people follow you around to read the crap you write because it’s important or intelligent? HA!!! It’s because you’re a joke!!! The only way you retaliate is through the subterfuge of editing old posts you’ve made long after posters have replied to your stupid comments. Like when you wrote this to me on Alternet’s:

    VT wrote:”Currently, virtually every comment this woman has written in the last week or so is in response to me or about me. And she has the gall to argue that I’m obsessed! Stupid, reactionary bitch!”

    THIS IS A LIE. You doesn’t know the other sites where I comment. They don’t allow “your kind” there! One word of your typical comments and responses would have you booted and banned in a NY minute.

    The only people you set your jaw for and attack are those you think are women. You use your mamby-pamby assaults for the men because you know they will wipe the floor with you.

    Yeah. You’re a real tough guy alright. You wouldn’t say that right out where I would see it in email, or in the dashboard. No. You candy-ass pussy hide your tough man talk in edited old comments. You think that’s re-writing history or making you look like a BMOC??? Well it doesn’t. It proves what a stupid asshole you are. Also proves what a misogynist you are. All we have to do is check your comments addressed to Sandie and me and anyone else you think may be a woman. That’s where you post your profanity and vulgarity.

    Crawl back into your hole and stay there. If you don’t I’ll be haunting you like the ghosts of Christmas past, present and future and it won’t be visions of sugarplums either.

  • Anonymous

    Do you? HA! Not bloody likely!!! ROTFL

    PROVE IT, DUMBASS. You are just deflecting because you don’t know and you’re too stupid to do the research yourself. You just deal in smears and attacks, not facts.

    ROTFL You’re a joke, Sanduskyman.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HSJULSAVFJIJYR6PCTCUPMNXRA Take 2

    In Dreams from My Father-I would in a book review categorizing The Author-Star of the Book as-a son of Islamic Muslims raised in foreign County ideologies-far removed from American culture. A rebellious teen-early adult who made it through drug and alcohol addiction-that caused convictions of penal-code violations to erupt. Being ½ White and ½ Black and abandoned early by a Islamic fixative father image ensued great anger-hate for a multitude of confused and disruptive disbelief in being White and or in White humans in general. However, some how rose out of ashes afforded and attended super elite Colleges in both America and Germany.  An Adult student of Marxist teachings and later mentorship under J. Wright Jr., a black anarchist for social injustices i.e., Anti-American dogma.         

    How in the world the true-life character in the said book became President is bind-binding.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, I suppose those “tax shelters” are a bit like a Rolex, a Mercedes Benz, a yacht or a nice house–the trappings of success!

    Or, in your dreary world of envy, a successful man is a suspicious man?  I may share some of your concerns on the historic behavior of capitalism, however, my solution(s) are not accentuated with paranoid vitriol and lies, as does Socialism.

    Just a quick question Mr. Tiffany: In your learned opinion, what makes  a better basis for the creation of law–emotion or reason,? (morals or ethics)

    Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • Anonymous

    Do you ever watch that show: “Ancient Aliens?”  That show proffers interesting possibilities? LOL

  • Tony Draxx

    a_bone_2_pick, I am NOT a Liberal (I fully understand what they are about), just because I believe that the common man/woman should have a vote (that is where it stops, I do not believe we are “entitled” to anything but freedom from a huge gov’t).  I have read the constitution at least 100 times in the last two years, and I hate how it has been morphed into something that it was never meant to be and/or circumvented, and Obummer & Friends are full of BS.  I served 7 1/2 years in the Army, I SACRIFICED a lot so you can have the Freedom to say whatever you want to me… I joined in Sept of 1987 and I am still paying a price today for it.  I do not expect you to understand my plights and difficulties I have recieved for my Service to this Country!  And it is okay if you don’t…

    But, understand that I have come from a very poor family and had a brutal stepfather for nearly seven years.  I choose Not to Repeat the wrongs that have been done to me, I know what it is like to be on the wrong side of abuse.  My kids are growing up in a different family that shows Love, Compassion, Honor, Truth, Integrity, and that there are consequences for your actions and you need to take responsibility for them.  They have a Mother and Father that teach and guide them (I at least had a good mom to teach me some of these things).  I know how to change a course that has been set for destruction by someone else’s hand.  I have worked more 60-70 hour work weeks than my friends and some family.  I have not had the opportunity to go to college, to join community politics (nothing besides city hall meetings where I have had some say).  I live in Oregon one of the most Liberal States there is, and I stand against most every law they have forced down our throats. I have been in front of over 13,000 people giving a speech (including Generals, Senators, and President Reagon), because I was the Honor Graduate of one of the Army’s most intensive courses (we started with 43 students and 27 of us graduated, when simutanously 2300 soldiers went through Basic & AIT during the same period of time). I have seen and been through stuff that would make the average man lose it in their pants.  I cannot tell you what they were because that would be considered “Treason”, and frankly nobody is worth the punishment they would give me for talking!!! (You are probably thinking I am full of it, but you are totally wrong.)  Even thinking about it enough to write something down is going to cause me to lose sleep tonight, all I can say is I wish I was NEVER There!  But, at the end of the day when you hide behind your accusations or couch, I am still willing to Die Defending the Constitution. You think you are so tough, well I Know what it is like to be Blacklisted in reality.

    Back in 1993 Governor Kitzhaber activated 100 of us (Army National Guard at the time) because thousands of 15-25 year olds were protesting and burning the American Flag (many were skinheads or anarchist). With my M16A2 in hand they were handing out 2 clips of 20 rounds each to soldiers.  Each one of us was asked if we were ordered to Fire into the Crowd, would we follow through with the Order.  I asked them hypothetically are the people in the crowd shooting at us, or are we being ordered to kill kids because they are burning the flag and someone doesn’t agree with that… an officer asked me does it make a difference, and I answered YES.  The next thing I knew there were at least 5 loaded weapons pointed at me and I was forced to surrender my weapon.  They handcuffed me and threw me into the back of a Police Car for over Three Hours, and everyone behind me in line decided that they did not want that happening to them too.  So they took their ammo and kept their mouths shut like a bunch of lemmings.  Later they released me and they tried to court marshal me for “failure to follow a direct order” (a Hypothetical Order that was never given), because I chose to defend their Constitutional Rights to assemble peacefully (all they did was burn the flag and chant bs).  I know that burning the flag under the wrong circumstances is a crime, but does it warrant killing kids?  The end result was I was given an Honorable Discharge for my Previous Service and Awards, because they did not want people doing their own critical thinking that might defy orders.  So I was made an example so that other soldiers would do thier bidding whether it was right or wrong. Putting this down in writing freaks me out to a point, but people need to know what the Gov’t is capable of…

    By the way, thanks for ruining my day by making me bring up stuff that eats away at the core of my soul… and personally I don’t think you are worth the risk I am taking by doing it (but others are)!!!

  • Anonymous

    Yes, this could be a very historic election, everyone is thinking they are not giving up on America, no matter what happens.  The regime wants you to feel that its hopeless and that they are taking over, but they are in for a rude awakening!

  • w. Parker

     You’re very credible coming from a sociopath as yourself.. You’re the pot calling the kettle black. .Look for one sec at your photo – a mugshot of a marxist radical.. a loser…a freak of nature (or in you case, the missing link to the human race), an OWS’er who’s jealous of success and inability to compete, an anarchist and parasite from a baboon’s rear.  A job as a circus Geek would be a perfect fit, as your experience in repulsing and sickening others is an art, par excellence.  I’ll attend the restoring love event if you turn yourself into authorities for crimes against nature and volunteer to wear a GPS ankle bracelet for life

  • Anonymous

    Religious differences have been debated since the beginning of time.  Do we want to focus on our “theological differences” or do we want to focus on “what unites us”?  Christians LOVE Jesus Christ.  Mormons LOVE Jesus Christ.  There is only ONE Jesus Christ – no matter how many ways man determines to worship Him.  If you and I are found arguing with each other when the ONE Jesus Christ comes again…I don’t think He will have anything to do with either one of us. Love of God and love of each other is what matters MOST…to Him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    “Wouldn’t it be just as historic to elect a man who’s from a faith that was actually chased out of the country in the 1800s…”
    Joseph Smith was run out of Binghamton, NY after he faked walking on water, the Susquahanna River. Real impressive faith.

    If Romney lies his way into the White House, the milestone will be that he’ll become the first Outsourcer-in-Chief, the first Tax-Evader-In-Chief and the first man elected as President who put his dog on the roof of his car to take him somewhere. He’s also a plutocrat, but that’s nothing new. 

    Watch working class Americans vote for a man running to raise their taxes while giving tax-breaks to people who don’t pay enough taxes now. I have to give it to Mr. Beck. He’s a genius at getting people to act in ways contrary to their own self-interests.

  • CaptainAmerica

    I can and I did – learn to deal with the pain or stop doing what makes it happen. You are a really stupid lab rat.

  • Anonymous

    Religious differences have been debated since the beginning of time.  Do we want to focus on our “theological differences” or do we want to focus on “what unites us”?  Christians LOVE Jesus Christ.  Mormons LOVE Jesus Christ.  There is only ONE Jesus Christ – no matter how many ways man determines to worship Him.  If you and I are found arguing with each other when the ONE Jesus Christ comes again…I don’t think He will have anything to do with either one of us. Love of God and love of each other is what matters MOST…to Him.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Another sign you don’t know what you are talking about - 
    “…after he faked walking on water, the Susquahanna River. ”
    It’s the Susquehanna River, and if you had cared to be correct you would have noticed the spell check highlighting it, but you, the prime expert, chose to ignore that error and present your idiotic bullcrap anyway, errors and all. 

    If you can’t be troubled to even check for errors, then you aren’t really all that convincing with your lies. You keep on spewing out the left wing debunked garbage though, I am sure the secret service can use the documentation you provide now to build the case later when you direct your ire toward President Romney.

    As a consolation prize, I will award you the title of Liar In Chief as soon as the current titleholder is retired. 

    Let’s bring up your criminal record again and your hokey explanations for it, shall we?

    Back by popular demand, here is the true Victor Tiffany and why people should never believe anything he says:

    “1) I got an ACD, no longer on my record”. *Note -
    this is still not revelatory – there is nothing here he will confess to doing,
    but to be able to be granted an Adjournment in Contemplation of Dismissal, you
    have to have been charged with a criminal offense. The charges were not
    included in his explanation.

     

    “2) I had to fill out an affidavit for a false
    claim”. Again, non revelatory. He doesn’t want you to know what his false
    claim was, or about whom it was concerning.

     

    “3) I had a car accident “As before, there were
    criminal charges filed, and there are three main categories of charges that are
    filed in relation to auto accidents - 
    for offenses of driving under the influence, and leaving the scene of an
    accident, or vehicular manslaughter or murder, successful or attempted. Charges
    were filed. No real admission of the status of the charges. The probability of
    his being acquitted of the charges is low since he didn’t say so when given the
    opportunity. In all likelihood he was convicted.

     

    “4) I committed civil disobedience to get in front of a
    judge and lodge a complain against neighbor’s dogs that were driving me crazy
    with the incessant barking”.

    He again ducks the issue of explaining what he did as civil
    disobedience, and whether he was convicted or cleared of the charges. I don’t
    think he dressed up like Mahatma Ghandi and went on a hunger strike, so it had
    to be something that results in him getting arrested and taken to jail. He
    doesn’t want you the readers to know what he did, or what he really is. He
    would prefer you watch and accept his little show at face value.

    This individual is not honorable, wise, or moral, and isn’t
    a role model to be admired by decent people. Nothing is beneath him as behavior
    is concerned, and all his claims and proclamations should be judged by his
    character, not by the things he writes. I pointed out earlier how he is liable
    to say anything to persuade people to believe he is being victimized, and that
    he is always correct in his accusations, allegations and assessments of others.
    If you want to waste the time you can read his comment history and judge for
    yourself, but in the interest of saving you the ordeal of that, I am telling
    you he is more often wrong than not, and isn’t an authority on much of anything
    no matter what he writes. He is a hypocrite and a delusional self absorbed
    malcontent who’s only real goal in life is to get attention. Don’t be taken in,
    he is all of what I am saying and more. Regardless of the politics, this man
    isn’t about anything but himself. He will say/write/do anything to get the
    attention and respect he craves, except the one thing that counts – actually be
    honest and sincere about improving the human condition.

     

     

  • CaptainAmerica

    Here’s some of my favorite rationalizations from you about your criminal record –

    “1) I got an ACD, no longer on my record”.

    *Note – this is still not revelatory – there is nothing here he will confess to doing, but to be able to be granted an Adjournment in Contemplation of Dismissal, you have to have been charged with a criminal offense. The charges were not included in his explanation.

    “2) I had to fill out an affidavit for a false claim”.

    Again, non revelatory. He doesn’t want you to know what his false claim was, or about whom it was concerning.

    “3) I had a car accident ”

    As before, there were criminal charges filed, and there are three main categories of charges that are filed in relation to auto accidents – for offenses of driving under the influence, and leaving the scene of an accident, or vehicular manslaughter or murder, successful or attempted. Charges were filed. No real admission of the status of the charges. The probability of his being acquitted of the charges is low since he didn’t say so when given the opportunity. In all likelihood he was convicted.

    “4) I committed civil disobedience to get in front of a judge and lodge a complain against neighbor’s dogs that were driving me crazy with the incessant barking”.

    He again ducks the issue of explaining what he did as civil disobedience, and whether he was convicted or cleared of the charges. I don’t think he dressed up like Mahatma Ghandi and went on a hunger strike, so it had to be something that results in him getting arrested and taken to jail. He doesn’t want you the readers to know what he did, or what he really is. He would prefer you watch and accept his little show at face value.

    You are not honorable, wise, or moral, and aren’t a role model to be admired by decent people. Nothing is beneath you as far as behavior is concerned, and all your claims and proclamations should be judged by your character, not by the things you write. I pointed out earlier how you are liable to say anything to persuade people to believe you are being victimized, and that you are always correct in your accusations, allegations and assessments of others.

    If anyone wants to waste their time they can read your comment history and judge for themselves, but in the interest of saving people the ordeal of that, I am telling them you are more often wrong than not, and you aren’t an authority on much of anything no matter what you write.

    You’re a hypocrite and a delusional self absorbed malcontent who’s only real goal in life is to get attention. People aren’t being taken in by your lies, you are all of what I am saying and more. Regardless of the politics, you aren’t about anything but yourself. You will say/write/do anything to get the attention and respect you crave, except the one thing that counts – actually be honest and sincere about improving the human condition. The only thing in the world you give a damn about is YOU. You are quite possibly the worst narcissist on the internet.

  • CaptainAmerica

    You want backup, I will give you more than you can handle, o king of narcissist liars.

  • Anonymous

    Another pack of lies from the Propagandist of the Internet Troll Network.

    Barry has lied his way into the white house with the complicity of his Chicago Thugocracy, making Barry Caesar Obummus “the first Outsourcer-in-Chief, the first Tax-Evader-In-Chief and the first man elected as President who ATE the dog, finding it “a little tough.” He’s also a Marxist-Socialist, but that’s nothing new. Barry’s faith is even more dubious since he was raised by his step-father as a MUSLIM. (Please don’t argue that Black Liberation Theology is a Christian faith.)

    YOUR incubant candidate has actually RAISED: Taxes, the Debt Ceiling, Unemployment, entitlement benefits… while downgrading the National credit rating, outsourcing American jobs to foreign countries, giving taxpayers dollars to his SEIU and union buddies while re-writing the bankruptcy bailout of the auto industry and solar energy companies at the expense of the taxpayers to the benefit of his crony capitalist friends and alienated foreign allies the world over while kowtowing to enemies of th United States. There’s more, but why beat a dead horse? 

    Beck hasn’t made people “act in ways contrary to their own self-interests.” (your words) 
    Beck has published his research and opinions, facts and information about the diabolical and criminal machinations of the current administration, staff and so-called friends of the Manchurian President. 

    What have you done besides lie, smear, defame, attack and use your propaganda flame war against Beck? Nothing. You have done nothing but attack people who oppose your assinine assumptions, point out your ridiculous projections and lies, and write profane and vulgar insults to discredit them.

    Keep writing your idiotic hate-mongering manifesto and stay away from people who practice civil and intelligent discourse. There is no salvaging your reputation from the dung heap you threw it on. You have made a complete fool of yourself.

  • Anonymous

    I keep laughing at his 4th offense. All he had to do was pick up the phone and call 911 to report the neighbors for a noise disturbance/barking dogs. So that excuse of his is baloney. Like they say in the South, that dog won’t hunt! LOL

    He’s covering up something he’s too embarassed to admit. Who knows why, since he’s laid out all his other delusions and lunacy for the world to see here. He was crazy long before the barking dogs!!! No doubt he could make the stupid criminal hall of fame!!!  

  • Anonymous

    Anything that makes sense that he writes is plagiarized. The only orginal content in his comments are the lies, attacks, insults, profanity and vulgarity.

  • Sandie

    Apparently you do a lot of ASSuming with no basis. Of course I know, but you seem to think it is only to hide profits to avoid taxes. . . but then you would be wrong, yet again. Do some research.

  • Anonymous

    He is under the mistaken impression that Romney is the only one to have offshore accounts…when he isn’t. VT is often mistaken…or just out-right lying!

  • CaptainAmerica

    That’s for sure!

  • Sandie

    Or just outright ignorant!

  • Anonymous

    Draxx,

    Sorry about getting back so late.

    Including this much information on I-net, is not necessarily a wise move, in this post or others you’ve chosen to expand on…You might try reading: “The Little Book Of Words,” by the Wounded Warriors Project or: http://www.woundedwarriorsfamilysupport.org
    I’m sorry for your difficult situation but that does not negate the fact that you are wrong.

    1.) ” I have read the constitution at least 100 times in the last two years, and I hate how it has been morphed into something that it was never meant to be and/or circumvented, and Obummer & Friends are full of BS.” 

    With this statement you propound to understand
    and agree with the “original intent…” What you were /are advocating is a deviance from our Founders written words, their own experiences, which led them to fight for our Independence. Popular Vote vs. Electoral College:

    “On every question of construction, carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” 
    –Thomas Jefferson

    2.) “But, at the end of the day when you hide behind your accusations or couch, I am still willing to Die Defending the Constitution. You think you are so tough, well I Know what it is like to be Blacklisted in reality.”

    What made you declare the above statement? It’s presumptuous on your part to assume I am “hiding,” and that I would “hide” behind my couch, it’ll
    never happen in my lifetime.

    If you utilized your option of reading my “activities,” you would have no question in your mind about my patriotism and adherence to the
    Constitution.  I, unlike other(s) am a strict Constitutionalist; I don’t pick and chose which parts of the Declaration of Independence, Constitution/ Bill of Rights, I’m willing to compromise an issue on…

    As you know nothing about me, the rest of your appeal to emotion, is not appropriate to comment on.
    But I will tell this, I also come from a military background, your situation(s) are not new to me or others of the reading audience.

    3.) “By the way, thanks for ruining my day by making me bring up stuff that eats away at the core of my soul… and personally I don’t think you are worth the risk I am taking by doing it (but others are)!!!”

    Said with raised eyebrow: “This is called the “Galileo Argument;” you are appealing to the  emotions of the readers/posters to take away from the substance of this post, and all previous ones. A tactic frequently used by ones who have no argumentative skills, or may not be rooted in Constitutionalism as they purport.