Romney unintimidated by boos during NAACP speech

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Yesterday Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney went into the lion’s den yesterday and addressed the NAACP. While Romney wasn’t particularly popular among those at the NAACP, Glenn believed going there anyway and saying his piece works to his advantage.

“I think this was actually a brave thing to do – he didn’t flinch,” Glenn said.

The crowed turned on Romney when he addressed Obamacare – watch below:

“He stops and lets them boo, and then he just moves on,” Pat commented.

“And he doesn’t back off from it, he just moves on,” Glenn added. “Now, if I were president, here is what I would say: Oh, you don’t like that? You know what? I’m going to do a lot of different things. I’m going to be the president of all the people – not special interest groups. And, quite honestly, I’m going to do some things that you like. And I’m going to do some things that you hate. I’m going to do the things that the people are sending me there for. And 68% of Americans do not want Obamacare. You might want it, but the American people do not. That’s what I’m going to do. And I’m sorry if you don’t like it. It’s going to suck to be you on that one, but we’ll find places where we can unite elsewhere.”

Pat pointed out that later in the speech Romney wasn’t afraid to point out that it’s never been worse for African Americans in this country. But the NAACP is a special interest group, so it doesn’t matter how many facts and stats Romney has to back his statements up – they’re going to vote for Barack Obama anyway.

“He went to a progressive leftist group that is not about principles, but about politics,” Glenn said. Adding, “I think this makes Mitt Romney stronger.”

He went on joking about Rush’s reaction to Romney’s speech, and how he didn’t change who he was or what he stands for in the speech. He didn’t start using a southern twang like Barack Obama, and he definitely didn’t go the route of Hillary Clinton, who, if you don’t remember, stood in front of the NAACP, started speaking with a southern draw, and started quoting the words of James Cleveland.

Here’s that hilarious clip:

“That is the worst stuff I ever heard,” Glenn said mockingly.

Glenn went on to say that, just like the National Organization of Women, the NAACP, is a joke. They lost any credibility they might have had because of special interests – much like the mainstream media news organizations.

“You guys are making such a huge hole in the market that GBTV and TheBlaze, we’re going to come in with semi-trucks, one after another, driving through that hole,” he said.

“You’re making yourself a joke,” Glenn added, addressing the media and other partisan organizations. “The National Organization of Women, you have no credibility; Democrats, no credibility; Republicans, no credibility; politicians, no credibility.”

Glenn told his audience that credibility is going to become on of the hottest commodities there is.

“You cannot put a price on credibility,” he told listeners.

“The American people will own that rare mineral of credibility. You just stay credible yourself and you win. This game is over. I’m telling you this game is over. You just have to go out now and finish the game. And we may be down at halftime, but I’m telling you, the game is over. Just get back on the field, and finish it.”

Glenn went on to congratulate Mitt Romney for actually having a spine, going into enemy territory, and just saying what he believed.

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  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    I have to credit Romney in this matter with having the courage and the integrity to enter the trap set for him by the leftists and the leftist media; he stood up to them and presented with clarity and truth what his intentions with ObamaCare are to be, the complete repeal of it once and for all.

    This is a case of where the leftist enemies of Romney will long remember as “We have met the enemy (Romney), and he crushed us completely.”

    Credibility, as is trust and honor, are rare, precious and valuable commodities; once lost they are nearly impossible to obtain once again. Romney has done a good job in this case and time.

  • Anonymous

    Tested in fire.  Battle hardened.  And walked away.

    Daniel’s faith and prayer protected him from the Lions in the den.  No such protection for those who pressured Darius to put him in there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vai-Rua/100002608992598 Vai Rua

    Courage under fire!

    Mitt Romney 2012!

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure why he was even booed in the first place.  Why is it racist to be against Obamacare?  Is Obamacare only for black people?  Of course not, it’s supposed to be for everybody.  What is the premise of the jeering?  Remember, Obamacare will hurt all people in the end, including black people.  Shouldn’t they or anyone to whom Mitt Romney says “let’s repeal Obamacare” be standing up cheering, since repealing the Affordable Care Act will save/salvage the health care industry for EVERYBODY?!

  • Anonymous

    Let’s hope Mr Romney continues to speak to the American people and not to his audience of the day. Good move Mitt.

  • Anonymous

    He was booed because the crowd was full of mostly Democrats who like the healthcare bill. Had nothing to do with race. Biden will speak to them and I’m sure he won’t be booed. Same way how Obama would get booed if he were at a primarily conservative/Republican group. 

  • Anonymous

    Bert, they booed because they support the ACA (Obamacare), and Romney was declaring that he wants to repeal it.  Simple as that.  Why do you presume accusations of racism?  You seem unaware that many, many people believe the ACA will be good for the country.  I do.  In fact, there’s substantial evidence supporting that viewpoint.  

  • Anonymous

    Am I the only one that noticed that the American Flag was directly behind Mitt Romney and the very next day, at the same podium when Biden speaks, the American Flag is nowhere to be seen.  I think it might be at the very end of the line, but certainly not behind the podium front and center.

  • w. Parker

    It’s not “racism” that 95+% of blacks voted in 2008 and will again for obummer in 2012?  – and blacks that don’t vote for obummer this time around won’t vote at all.  When they do vote for a white it is only because there are no blacks running and it’s 98% of the time for a liberal who will promote liberal policies to benefit them.  Wake up to the real world and remove the shades of the “politically correct”

  • w. Parker

    Race is a factor for the booing, if you consider what segment of society will benefit most from the legislation

  • Anonymous

    You’re quite correct – like any other individual or group – white, yellow, Christian, Jew, rich, poor or middle-class – Black people vote according to what they believe is in their own best interest. I believe this is how democracy works. And you find this “racist” because…? (and I’m laughing at your exhortation, because I’m so politically and racially crass that I’ll merrily roast any group’s goose, and I’ve been warned that my sense of humor could easily start a race riot.)

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  • sparducks

    We need more of this kind of Mitt Romney.

  • w. Parker

    That is absolutely absurd…Blacks constitute approx. 18% of the population.  Obummer couldn’t have won without the “white” vote.  I believe “most” of the population vote for what is best for the entire population.  You call obamcare legislation democracy?? Put together behind locked closed doors without one republican able to enter?  No one could answer what was in the bill until it was already passed!. No one wants to “roast any group’s goose”, we, the majority want a fair and even playing field for “all” – short of complete socialism

  • SoThere

    Youz funny.

    Hey, I have some dry land down in the Bayou for sale, interested?

  • Anonymous

    What is extremely sad, is that Romney spoke to that crowd like they were grownups and yet later he was criticized for speaking of matters that the black community would not understand like a personal savings account as an example.  So how our economy runs and what needs to be fixed is too far above their understanding since most blacks are just barely surviving?  If he had spoken down to them like they were 6th graders that same bunch criticizing would have railed against him not treating them like adults.  This is what happens when years of pandering by democrats to get the black vote.  Mitt spoke to them with respect.  I hope for some in that audience that day was an awakening to what has really been going on for decades.  I would rather have a debate with my perceived enemy, rather than to be patted on the head and expected to give away my vote.

  • Anonymous

    The very fiber and essence of obamacare bothers me with its blatant socialist crap. Socialized medicine, they have that in Cuba! Remember, that country was partially founded by a guy who DIDN’T GET A MEDICAL DEGREE, he was only part doctor…aaaand Mr. Guevara also proved you can kill a whole lot of people, but as long as you look good in a beret people will buy posters and t-shirts of you after you die. This administration is using the same exact tactics towards medicine as Che advocated. Great!

  • Anonymous

    I saw this, and I immediately thought, this was exactly the reaction that they were looking for.  The media amp it up, the liberals add more fuel, we get the race baiting, classic them versus us situation.

    This is exactly the politics that I’m fed up with.  All smoke, mirrors and spin.  There all at it, there is no difference between the parties.

  • Anonymous

    The sad thing here, atleast to me, is the partisanship of any organization- particularly the NAACP- not listening to the MESSAGE and instead acting as if Obama was the 2nd coming and everything he touches and his administration is responsible for is just sacred. 

    It’s complete and utter nonsense. And we as a People cannot fall in love with the siren song of empty promises from any politician any longer; Republican or Democrat. 

    I’m quite frankly shocked that the mob mentality is so alive and well- especially in an organization like the NAACP that should know all too well the evils that result from mobs. This organization- like Jackson and Sharpton- is nothing more than a bastardized version of what it should be. Booker T. was all about upward mobility. WEB Dubois too. Martin Luther King, Jr spoke ever so eloquently about the ‘Dream’. 

    Was the Dream to act as lemmings; incapable or unwilling to think as individuals? To see cause and effect? To realize the Great Evil that is upon our Great Land, and how it acts to unseat the very Freedom and Liberty that we have been bestowed with? 

    They should be ashamed of themselves. Booker T. did not preach taking more from the Government, or getting on the Government dole. He didn’t speak about collective salvation, nor did he speak about waiting on the Government to give blacks an opportunity to advance themselves. 

    Yet he we are in the 21st Century, and after all that fighting that was done to win freedom from slavery, the NAACP wants to rush headlong back into it. But this time they want to take everyone else along with them. 

    No. Thank. You. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DMN7QXTFMOX4HCZ3YNAZYJ2DWU Tom

    A good political move ? ……probably. Couragous, I don’t think so but Romney is showing more guts than McCain at this point. Lets see if he can get down and dirty or will he cave like McCain did halfway through the campaign.

  • Anonymous

    I watched Romney’s entire speech and I though it was great.
    He did not let the booing upset him.  He stood there with
    poise and grace and talked about how he will be president of
    all of America.
    We need a leader who does not hold grudges and who will
    follow the constitution. 
    May God help Romney wake up the American people and
    let them see what is going on.

    We cannot continue to pay for all of the unknown expenditures
    with the six trillion dollar debt the Dems have racked up.
    We now have 3 cities in CA that have declared bankruptcy,
    Chicago whose doctors are not taking anymore medicaid
    patients and are leaving Chicago because they are not
    getting paid from Government and States their medicaid
    payments.
    Scranton, PA has it’s fire and police departments on
    minimum pay, also the Mayer.  They are being sued
    for nonexistnent money by the unions and other groups.
    I’m sure more states will be in the sad state of the above.

  • Anonymous

     The content was horrible.  He also mentioned his plan to create ANOTHER FEDERAL bureaucracy to “Fix” the education system.

    But he’s all we’ve got, so I’ll vote for the Socialist Big Government Progressive rather than the Communist Big Government Progressive.

  • Anonymous

    Still disgusted with the big government progressive that is Romney and IS NOT a republican.

    Remember Glenn always talks about the progressive dream of the early 20′s. Where the Two parties are so identical that no matter who the American people choose they get the same thing.  It took almost 100 year but it finally happened.

    No matter who wins, we get a big government, top down progressive.

    If we don’t create a 3rd party that TRULY believes in small government, liberty, God Given rights, and fiscal responsibility America is doomed.  There are no other options.

  • Anonymous

     Did ANYONE HEAR or WATCH the speech.

    Romney announced he would create another FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY to Fix the education system.

    More of the same.  Big Government progressiveism at it’s finest.

    I’m voting for Romney, But he’s not going to do anything different.

    We need to create a 3rd party based on Liberty, small government, and fiscal responsibility.

    At this point, to me, the TEA party is dead, the movement failed, it was co-opted and taken over by Big Government Progressive Republicans.

    Republicans and Democrats are now one party, make no mistake, do not allow yourself to be duped, THEY ARE THE PROGRESSIVE PARTY!!!

  • greywolfrs

    We already have that party, it’s called the Libertarian party.

  • Anonymous

    It was quite amusing to see someone from the NAACP (why do they still use the ”CP”?  They

    would be greatly offended if anyone called them by what the CP means.)—-in a shouting match

    with O’Reilly today.  After this man said the organization was non-political (or something as

    equally asinine) I knew the rest of what he would say would be just as silly.  And it was—he

    said Romney didn’t address the issue of education for ”them”,  however, a clip that was played

    earlier did have M.R. talking about that very subject and what he would do as president.

    Guess it comes down to—one will hear only what he wants or chooses to hear.

  • Anonymous

    bert, that Act is going by the wrong name.  It should be called the Un-Affordable Care

    act because it will cost everyone more in the way of insurance or ”taxes”.      Some

    changes have already been made to health coverage.  I can attest to that.  First, I did

    not have to pay a co-pay for an annual checkup.  That part was good.  But, I will no

    longer be able to get one of my medications because I am ”older that the age” which

    should be taking it.  Not so good.  It was initially prescribed for a persistent skin rash

    some years ago and I only take it occasionally now.  Not exactly a narcotic!

  • Lioness

    There is currently one difference, the dems have been hijacked by die hard socialist.

  • Anonymous

    And some of those items being uncovered, Parker, as I’ve heard, have

    nothing at all to do with health care.  You remember the words of San

    Fran Nan: You’ll know what’s in it when you read it.      Well, I guess!

  • Anonymous

    verycold,  O’Reilly asked the NAACP fellow on his show if he wanted Romney to pander

    to that crowd.  The answer was no, but he didn’t like what was being said.  Bill’s reply

    was that the speech Romney gave is the same one he gives to all groups.

  • http://www.facebook.com/randall.j.burton Randall Jay Burton

    thats good mitt .You need tgo explain to the blacks in california . That it was much easyer . for Nobama to build jails in california . Than it was to create jobs, STICK TO THE TRUTH RAM IT DOWN AMERICAS NECK IF YOU HAVE TO. christ will not allow you to fail

  • Anonymous

    > We need to create a 3rd party based on Liberty,
    > small government, and fiscal responsibility.

    We already did…

    They’re called Libertarians…

    – Smoov

  • http://www.facebook.com/randall.j.burton Randall Jay Burton

    elpzee VOTE FOR CHRIST

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  • http://www.facebook.com/randall.j.burton Randall Jay Burton

    VOTE FOR CHRIST  WELCOME TO THE UTOPIAN NATION OF GOD

  • http://www.facebook.com/randall.j.burton Randall Jay Burton

    UMMMMM  YES IT IS PRETTY MUCH FOR OBAMAITES

  • http://www.facebook.com/randall.j.burton Randall Jay Burton

    NOBAMA DOSENT CARE THATS FOR SUCH

  • http://www.facebook.com/randall.j.burton Randall Jay Burton

    YOU PEOPLE ARE TALKING AND VOTING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT DOSENT EXSIST THE POOR CANNOT PAY FOR OBAMA CARE CAR INSUREANCE. OR ANY THING EVEN CLOSE . DO YOU FUCKING IDIOTS EVEN REALIZE??? REALLLY IM DEAD SERIOUS.I CANNOT EVEN PAY THE FUCKING TAXES THAT I OWE , FOR THE TIME I WAS ON UNEMPLOYMENT ?YOU FUCKING SELFISH BASTARD FUCKING ASSHOLES ARE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT ? ID JUST RATHER DIE . THAN TOO LIVE IN YOUR FUCKED OFF WORLD. HOW EVER IF I MUST DIE ? ILL TAKE THAT NOBAMA FUCK WITH ME
       GO AHEAD WIPE MY ACCOUNT OUT PROVE MY WORTH 

  • Anonymous

    What really gets me is how they repeatedly give their loyalty to the Democrat party in election after election, out of some warped sense of gratitude I think, and they have no clue at all about the history of the Democrats when it comes to their freedom in the first place.

    – Smoov
     

  • Anonymous

    They didn’t hear it because it wasn’t about special treatment for black people.

    It was about ALL people, but they aren’t about ALL people, just about getting theirs.

    They’re special, you see. They are less than everyone else, and need extra consideration for them to be equal to everyone else, in their eyes.

    Oh, they won’t come out and say it that bluntly, but, that’s the way it is with closet racists…

    Give me someone who is openly racist any day. At least, I’ll know exactly where that person stands.

    – Smoov
     

  • Anonymous

    Into the lion’s den? thats funny, despite what Glenn Beck may want you to believe Mitt Romney was warmly receieved at the NAACP. There were many cheers throughout his speech and he even got a standing ovation at the end, I should know because I was there. People booed because like many of you African Americans also have strong feeling regarding health care, in fact health care and education are probably two of the biggest issues in the black community for decades. We do have the greatest health care in the world but many people do not have access to it, particulary blacks and hispanics. With the Affordable Care Act this would change because by 2018 98% of the population will have access to quality health care. I know the bill isn’t perfect but it’s a start and it is better than what we have/had in the past. I have nothing against Mr. Romney and i’m sure he’s a great guy, but all we are hearing from him and the Republicans is repeal it, repeal it, repeal it. Ok repeal it then what? go back to what we had when health insurance companies can deny someone with a pre existing condition and a large chunk of the population can’t afford quality healthcare? If Romney doesn’t like the bill fine come up with something better, but just repealing it is not going to be popular with the black community and that is why some booed, we want to hear solutions not just repeal it.  

  • Anonymous

    I could argue a bunch of the other points you try to make in your post, but they aren’t relevant to me.

    Bottom line is, the federal government has been grossly over-reaching their designated power for decades and then some. This is one more huge overreach, and an increasing proportion of us have had enough, and will not take any more.

    I have no problem with a state choosing to do this, but I have big problems with the feds doing it. They’ve gone too far even before this health care tax, and we’re drawing the line and saying ‘no further’.

    People’s problems accessing health care won’t be solved through crap l ike this, as their barrier is about the economy which our gov’ts have been sucking the life out of for too long.

    We don’t need to be taxed into health care, we need prosperity. This is going to kill whatever prosperity we have left.

    Deregulation will do more to help the health care industry than anything else, particularly tort reform. Removing the artificial barriers interfering with the ability for insurance companies to do business will help too.

    Insurance isn’t for paying for something after you need it. It is for your possible future needs. When insurance can’t actually insure anymore, and is turned into a payment processor as this tax monstrosity will do, then yeah, costs will go up.

    It has to go up. There is no way it couldn’t go up.

    When you buy insurance, at 20, when you’re healthy, your rate is relatively low, as the odds of you getting sick, are relatively low. Over the lifetime of the policy, the insurance company is playing the odds. You may never need the catastrophic care in the end, but insurance is about being there, should that unfortunate situation occur.

    When you buy insurance, to pay for the cancer you just found out you have? The odds are different. You’re not paying for the chance of you getting cancer in the future, you’re paying for the chance of cancer now, which is 100%, which removes any leeway they have to spread the risk among their policy holders.

    Anyone who still expects to be able to pay a lower price for health care, when the companies can no longer refuse to cover pre-existing conditions, need to get back in touch with reality.

    – Smoov

  • http://twitter.com/Snuffy_Joe Joe Snuffy

    I have to admit, Romney did a good job at the NAACP convention. He knew that his statement on Obama care would not be well received but he said it anyways – AND HE DIDN’T BACK DOWN.  I say; good for him. 

    Now, with all the attacks Obama is making on Romney and Bain Capital, Romney needs to respond with some Fascist/Communist Socialist history statements against Obama.  As we know, BO has known communists and racists on his staff.  Regardless of what has been said about is birth certificate, what about his Social Security Number? Is anyone trackng that?

    How about providing the people with mini history lessons about where Socialism leads. I remember seeing film of conditions in Russia under Socialism. People couldn’t own cars. Everyone lived in the “projects” because private property was not allowed.

    Is this the “Utopia” Obama wants to bring to the United States? 

    We need to step up our attacks on Obama and his Socialist agenda for America. It is time to get serious about the upcoming election.  It is time to CLEAN HOUSE and eliminate the Socialist infection in BOTH parties in our State and Federal governments. 

  • http://twitter.com/Snuffy_Joe Joe Snuffy

    The first element needed to fix our education system is to do away with the U.S. Department of Education and the Socialists who hold all the senior positions there.  Of course, if we win the upcoming election, Obama’s appointees will be gone BUT, we need to turn education back to the States where it belongs. 

    Other than providing the Socialists with a means to brain wash our kids, there is no reason for a Cabinet level Dept of Education to exist at the Federal level.  The only thing needed is a small office with probably not more than a couple of hundred people MAX, that track federal dollars provided to the States.  No more pushing of Socialist teachings in our AMERICAN schools. 

    Instead, require that all students must learn about OUR history, OUR Constitution and OUR Bill of Rights as citizens of this country. 

    The Socialists have not been teaching these things because, those who do not know their history and do not know what their rights are, won’t miss them when the Socialists take them away. 

    Obama and his surrogates have made several covert attacks on our Constitution and our Bill of Rights since he has been in office. What will stop him from continuing on that path if he is reelected.  

    Let’s kick the Socialists OUT in November.

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PROGRESSIVE PARTY.  The term “Progressive” is simply a voter friendly term for Socialist.  Let there be no doubt in your mind that these people are SOCIALISTS and this is how we should be referring to them in all forms of speech and advertizments.  They are Socialists.

  • Anonymous

     Libertarian. They may be a bit more liberal on some social issues. But as far as being against big government and being fiscally conservative they are very strong on those. I was a libertarian for years and didn’t even know it until somebody informed me.  But I hate big government and I don’t believe for one second that occupying all these country’s is helping America.  The money we would save from not doing it would pay for better weapons for our troops while still spending less overall on defense. 

  • Anonymous

    It isn’t about Libertarians being more liberal on social issues, even tho, as a result, it seems to be that.

    Libertarians understand, that social issues, aren’t any of the federal government’s business in the first place, and shouldn’t be taking a position either way on them.

    That is the responsibility of the state and local governments, according to the culture of the local area they serve.

    The federal government imposes select values, usually only when they can be used for their own ends, on EVERYONE, regardless of the local cultures.

    The city to the west of me is a dry city. No alcohol sales at all. I have no problem with that, and neither do they. If someone there wants to get a 6-pak, just a few miles down the street and they can get it.

    This is a local community who has chosen to be a dry city, and since it affects them specifically, without imposing their desires on the surrounding cities, it works, with little problem.

    Standing against the federal government’s desire to tell you how to live and what you can or can’t do, is what Libertarians are about on social  issues. Not whether they are for, or against, an individual social issue. It isn’t the fed’s business. They need to keep their focus on the limited powers granted to it. The states don’t need their help, and they sure as hell don’t need their continued interference and bribe/blackmail tactics.

    – Smoov
     

  • http://www.redletterbelievers.com/ David Rupert

    We can only hope that Romney simple does what’s right, regardless of the perception, consequences or popularity.

    David,
    http://www.redletterbelievers.com
    “Salt and Light”

  • http://www.facebook.com/taylor.j.goodwin.7 Taylor J. Goodwin

    Are you referring to the part where he said he would attach federal dollars to each student and let the parents chose where they would go? If a school gets funding by parents choosing to send their kids to that school…don’t you think they will improve or be left in the dust? Now they get funding by attracting STUDENTS, not union or government pandering (tried to think of a kinder term…but pandering is to accurate). Tell me, what would attract you to choose a school? Good teachers? Good facilities? Secure environment? A place where dodgeball is still allowed? Now they will cater to you, and teachers will be allowed to be good, and paid for it because of how they will naturally attract students. This is definitely better than our current situation, right?

  • Anonymous

    Well if you want me to debate you on this it’s not going to happen. Since I pretty much agree with everything you just said. You gave an excellent summary of what the Libertarian philosophy is about and it describes why I am a Libertarian. Honestly I think there are a lot of Democrats who would be Libertarians if they could just open their minds and think in an independent way. Instead of following the heard and turn off CNN. The mainstream media has smeared the Libertarian’s and portrayed them in a very false way. They even try to make us out to be racists. Even though treating people differently for how they look goes against everything we believe in, and we’re probably by far the least racist group out there. Of course the far left like to call anybody a racist who wants everybody treated equal and exactly the same. Like if you don’t believe in showing extreme favoritism for minority’s then it means you hate them. Or if you don’t want the government running every aspect of our lives then you must be a racist. They just use the term universally for anybody who doesn’t support extreme and full on socialism. It’s pretty offensive how they will label anybody as racist without evidence just because they don’t agree with their policy’s.

  • Anonymous

    I believe we conservatives missed what the progressive liberals did not, and that is the audience of the NAACP was uncivil to a presidential candidate. How many of you would have booed Obama if he came to your rally? There may have been one boo from some bozo, but the rest of you would have been respectful even though you disagreed. What the liberal media realized is the American people across the country were now witnessing the disrespect of the NAACP. This even upset the leaders, as they went on air to say that Mitt purposefully charged up the crowd. What they are worried about is the American people winessed first hand the uncivilty of the NAACP to a presidential candidate. Folks, the progressives could see votes slipping away, so they blamed Romney as purposefully inciting the reaction. What is really pathetic is the progressives are okay with anger and uncivility in a controlled environment. In other words, if the crowd is perceived as a mix of American society, like the Wall Street Occupiers, then it is kay or them to be rude or destrutive because they are percieved to represent all Americans. However, to have a black organization standup and boo a potential president was appalling to the progressive liberals. Progressives are bigots of the worst order.Blacks and Latinos are simply objects to progressives to be used to solidify an agenda. Once that agenda is met they are ignored. Case in point, Obama pitched changing the laws of immigration to make it easier to become American citizens, but when he got into office he ignored the Latinos and addressed implementing Obamacare in order to move this country “FORWARD” to communism. It was his agenda he cared about not the Blacks, the Gays, or the Latinos. Another example, sending Biden to speak in his place at the NAACP and saying he had scheduling conflicts. Unfortunately for Obama the press found he had nothing on his agenda. Then you listen to Biden speak to the blacks as though they are idiots. I’m sorry but I would appreciate Romney speaking to me as an intelligent human being then some person with no education.

  • Anonymous

    That is not what he said. Romney was saying he would have the feds issue a voucher for each individual child, so they could be educated at the institution of choice. I would like to see the Department of education eliminated and turn education back to each state. I would also like to see all federal agencies, which have become breeding grounds for progressive thought, be eliminated. In the future, American need to hold the Presidents feet to the fire to uphold the Constitution and implement smaller and less obtrusive government. Remember, the fight is bigger than the USA. What we are fightig is becoming part of a new world order lead by the United Nations.

  • Anonymous

    What I find most amusing are those idiots who call Libertarians, communists… but it is a good indicator to spot those who haven’t even bothered to get a thought, much less a clue.

    You’re totally right about pulling off Democrat votes too. It hits on my own issue.

    Neither party fits me, and there isn’t a lot of consistency, from what I can tell, with where their differences are. It seems their only purpose is to perpetuate conflict. You have what should be multiple parties trying to cram themselves into the unbalanced 2-party system.

    For me, I tend to lean socially liberal. I have no problem with people using non-addictive drugs legally. After all, it is their body, I have no right to tell them what they can or can’t do with it. At the same time, penalties for DUI (which covers all drugs, not just alcohol) should be MUCH stiffer. Allow people a legal avenue, and focus on the actions that pose a danger to others.

    This, to me, isn’t a federal responsibility tho.

    I also don’t see any reason why 2 (or 3, etc) people who want to join their households together, shouldn’t be allowed to. As much as the xtians keep trying to claim the word “marriage” as their exclusive territory, it isn’t. That is just a propoganda point. Again, who am I to tell them they can’t, and who is the gov’t to say they can’t also. Their lives, doesn’t involve me.

    So… if I leaned Democrat, I am forced to also accept a big gov’t along with it who will tell us how we are supposed to live our lives. I just can’t go along with that, so the big gov’t push loses me, among other reasons.

    Then we look at the Republicans… I’ll skip over the fact that the Republican party of today, is just as much big gov’t as the Dems, they just disagree on what form it should be, but they also want to tell us how to live our lives, only the way to do it differs. This is where they lose me.

    If I just took the Reps claim of smaller government and getting gov’t out of our lives, at face value, then I’d be leaning towards them, but their claims are hollow when you look at their actions.

    Even if they weren’t tho…

    The Republicans are controlled in a large enough way by the Evangelicals (much in the same way the Dems are by the Progs) that I could never trust them to restrain themselves, from imposing their own flavor of doctrine on the rest of the country.

    It has been tried before in the past, with violent results.

    So, there is no way I can accept the Republicans either.

    There are a LOT of people who straddle both parties, never fitting into either one, as there are big issues with both parties, that are dealbreakers with us.

    As much as the Romney camp protest about us Libertarians voting for Paul or Johnson this fall, as handing the election to Obama, the Obama camp have just as much to worry about losing people who lean Democrat, to defect to us as well.

    Those people who shout out “A VOTE FOR ANYONE BUT MITT IS A VOTE FOR OBAMA!”… are wrong.

    It only matters, that our votes don’t go to Obama, for them to help Romney… unless, somehow, the Libertarian candidate, ends up with more votes than Romney, while denying Obama his 50%+1 electoral votes at the same time.

    Obama does not win the presidency then. You have to get a majority of the eleectoral votes. So, what I’m hoping for is, is a runoff,  between the Democrats and the Libertarians, shutting out the Republicans.

    If the Republicans weren’t such douches about Paul this cycle, and let the process play out fairly, then maybe I could get behind Mitt… but the Republicans are just as corrupt as the Democrats, as they have demonstrated recently.

    Shame too, they’re supposed to be such xtian people.

    Anyways, I’ve gone off on a couple tangents, that I didn’t intend, so, I’ll leave it off here.

    Have a good one o/

    – Smoov

  • Anonymous

    Are your freaking kidding me? “How many of you would have booed Obama if he came to your rally?” Obama has been the president most harassed by conservative pundits, “reporters” and the general public. Have you been living under a rock?

  • Anonymous

    That is a pretty racist assessment of your part. Why: you judge black people in a general way.

  • Anonymous

    It’s hella’ funny: all of yous pretending not to be racially biased, speaking all carefully PC and sh•t. Just come out and say it like it is in your head, people. Be honest. Don’t be like Glenn, who just months ago couldn’t fathom Romney as his candidate and now licks his boots and kisses the dirt he boringly stomps on. It’s a bonafide bromance.

  • w. Parker

    Obozo never has and never would because he is “gutless”.  Could you see obozo speaking to a Tea Party rally??  Romney did basically the same thing.  Obozo has demonstrated he doesn’t give a rats ass what people think that oppose him.  That’s his dang problem.  I know you worship him due to his support for homosexuals

  • w. Parker

    Liberals are the racist.  They want confusion, chaos, and irrecoverable debt. They want to break America. And so “racism” is the liberal’s thing. This is why they constantly accuse others of it. They think they cover their own evils in this way. They accuse someone else of being racist. 

  • Anonymous

    How is wanting confusion, chaos and irrecoverable debt racist? You lack an analytical mind. Things get con-fused up there in your head. You, simply, don’t understand what racism is. And surely, homophobia either.

  • Anonymous

    Personally, I think Glenn should have backed Paul the whole time. Maybe it would have made a difference instead of joining in with the establishment media in ignoring him, but we’re past that now.

    Barring some very unlikely scenario, Rombey is the Republican nominee.

    I do not ever hear Glenn being enthusiastic about Romney. If anything, he is a reluctant supporter, but he is also trying to be fair about him.

    If you honestly think Glenn is licking his boots and kisses the dirt for Romney? Then you are obviously a troll parroting things you’re being told, and don’t have the slightest clue about how Glenn is supporting him. Not one clue.

    – Smoov

  • w. Parker

    Racism to liberal white communists traitors (or, latent white male homosexuals with intent to defecate on the founding fathers of America) “racism” as the desire to destory a race. Racism is the attempt to obliterate a culture, a language, a religion, and thus leave an ethnicity without any but the most naked identity

  • w. Parker

    You found the station, but missed the train

  • greywolfrs

    It sounds as if you do not understand we Libertarians. See, Libertarians are as conservative as any Republican. The difference is we realize that this country is supposed to be free. That means others have the right to do as they please, (as long as they are hurting no one else) whether we agree or not. Those people have the freedom to do those things, but freedom is a two way street. We, also, have the right to NOT participate. Isn’t freedom wonderful?

  • greywolfrs

    I find it funny that just last week or the week before Glenn was acting all pissed off at the establishment Republicans. He is backing one in Romney. As I stated in that article, if he and some others had backed Paul or even Gary Johnson, we may have had a good candidate to put up against Obamao. Instead, he and the others backed the same ol’ establishment lackeys…

    The definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.  – Albert Einstein.

    P.S. Don’t mind finestupidity, besides sticky chin, he is the dumbest person who posts here.

  • greywolfrs

    That is a straight lie. GWB was the president most harrassed by the media and left wingers. Besides, if I knew Obamao was going to be at a rally I was intending to go to, I wouldn’t go. Carry on, drone.

  • Anonymous

    I may live under a rock, but my rock is in the real world. You live in a fantasy world where you speak of things that never have happened. When has your mainstream media ever vetted this president? Your president hired Van Jones, a devout communist, for heaven sake, and your press would not even bring the matter up until it became nearly explosive, and then they covered for him. How about Solendra? Obama invested 528 million in Solendra who produces a solar sell at a cost of 7 dollars a unit while its competitors produce the same product for 3 dollars a unit; yet, Obama invested anyway? Why? Well Obama will not produce those records and his media friends are busy spinning the whole thing as though it was an ingenious move. Obama thinks that there are 57 states in America and thnks you pronoune Navy Corps as Navy Corpse. I guess troughout all his years of learning he never was taught that the word corpse is a dead person. As you are aware, if bush had made these same errors he would have been the entertainment on Saturday Night Live as the biggest dunce in history; however, Mr. Obama is still given the title, by the press, as the brightest president, ever. How? He won’t even show his grades! In regards to the Tea Party, they have rallies and they act respectfully; going as far as picking up after themselves. I can assure you that you might find one or two that would boo Obama but that would be it. The rest would give him respect, and then air their differences to the press. Now, take the OWS group or those who were bused in from Oregon and California to oppose Walker, they damaged the state building at a cost of $350,000 with arrest records that accounted for rape, drugs and vandalism, just to name a few. So, when you come out of that fantasy world where you hide your head ten feet under the sand like an ostrich you will see just how bad Obama really is to this country and its people. Oh, and stop the constant whinning!

  • Anonymous

    I understand your comments and frustration but we are not talking about Obamacare. What we are talking about, is what happened at the NAACP when Romney was booed. and the radical progressives tried to convince Americans that Romney purposefully incited the booing.

  • Anonymous

    Cite a case where Obama was booed by a mass of Republicans. The only time I have seen Obama booed was by Gays and Radical Progressives who felt Obama had not done enough. In other words, by his own party. The NAACP has become a radical party who claim they are bi-partisian but who clealy are not. Romney was booed by radicals, who happened to be black radicals. Polosi witnessed the boo’s and immediately thought of the votes they might lose when the county see’s these radicals booing a presidential candidate. She immediately came up with the story line that Romney purposely incited the booing. Nancy has made a living out of lying and she has been very successful at getting people to believe her propoganda. This time, even Nancy Polosi could not dig the NAACP out of their bigotted hole, because people actually witnessed it. Many radicals tuned in to see Romney get waxed, so even radicals witnessed this event with their own eyes. What they winessed and the story Nancy told did not jive.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, Smoov, I can’t tell you how tired I am of people playing the ”victim” card.

    Wasn’t it Martin Luther King who said that people should be judged by their

    character and not by the color of their skin?   It appears there are not too many

    folks who remember or follow his instructions/teachings.   Especially those who

    cry ”racist” if you look at them cross-eyed!     I could be called a racist by some

    because I refuse to call any black an African American.  IF they can name from

    which nation their ancestor came and which tribe, I will do so.   I can be firm on

    this because I KNOW in which country my former daughter-in-law was born and

    to which tribe she belongs.

  • Anonymous

    Agree! However, many have not taken the time to even find out what Obamacare represents or how much it costs (i.e. people booing Romney). Do not forget that 100% of those voting for the bill did not read it. Nancy Polosi famously said, “You have to vote for it to find out what is in it.” Now we are finding that Obamacare is more aggegious (sp) than we once thought, but only to those who are reading and listening. For most people it is easier to believe Obama then take the time to educate themselves.

  • Anonymous

    Spoken like a true Fox News watcher. That’s where you get your daily dose of info about yor “real world”, don’t ya. You cannot differentiate between what you get from right-wing propaganda machines and your own misinformed opinions. Shame you will have to keep watching the jealousy of an entire news network (fox) for 4 more years. You thought Soros was bad, wait until you wise up and see how Rupert Murdoch owns your thoughts.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a big Romney fan, but my respect level grew for him after this. He showed mental toughness and looked very presidential. Two thumbs up for him. I still won’t vote for him though.

  • Anonymous

     Could you answer a questions for me; I was proud of Romney for the way he handled the situation to clarify my stance. What surprised me was that they boo the removing benefit programs. Does that mean the NAACP members and who they represent have the money to pay for their own healthcare? If you can afford to pay for your own healthcare why would a person need the other benefit programs?

  • Anonymous

    Interesting question because I didn’t have the same take as you.  I know Rush Limbaugh for instance has enough money that he doesn’t have insurance, but he will have to pay a tax or sign up for insurance that he doesn’t need. I believe they booed Romney because they think many blacks will receive healthcare insurance that were not coverd before and, more importantly, paid for by the rich (someone else). I don’t think it is because they will lose certain benefits? I don’t know. However, if a person makes 14,000 a year they will have to pay the Obama tax or seek health insurance. As you know health insurance is very expenive so many indigent makig 14,000 or more will still be without health insurance. If you think about it no one has read this bill? Greta Van Sustren who is a lawyer says she doesn’t even understand the bill and she is an attorney. I mean who does this kind of thing, present a bill that no one knows what is in it?

  • Anonymous

    It’s kind of ironic that Beck has used that same Einstein quote when talking about voting for progressives.

  • Anonymous

    First, Nancy P. made it racist when she tried to implicate Romney as one who was trying to get booed, ridiculus. Second, no one has read this bill, we keep finding more surprises. 3rd, the cost of the bill keeps rising and the so called savings have been elminated. I think it is great you like the bill, but why and who pays for it? Do you think it is a good idea for the government being able to tax you as a penalty? Currently, if my doctor thinks I might have cancer he gves me an X-ray and completes a series of tests the same day to see if have cancer. If  I have cancer the doctor sends me immediately to surgery. My chances of survival are much greater because of acting quickly. Obama’s plan is nothing more than European style medicine. Europe is beggng us not to take that route, but we will not listen. Europe tells us to get an MRI will take 6 to 9 months, but we pretend we didn’t hear them. The truth is that Obamacare will dilute our abiity to provide top notch medical care. Common sense tells you that. You can’t add 48 milion uninsured an pretend that we will save money, thats fuzzy math.What health care is attempting to do is to educate everyone on proper nutrition and excercise so that we can avoid hospital care. Last, I will never trust any program where the masses must be subject to Obamacare while Obama and the rest of his cronies keep their top notch health care programs in tact. I smell a rat!

  • Anonymous

    No, spoken like a peron who has the facts. If you got off the couch from watching CNN, ABC, NBC or NPR and actually read a book and educated yourself you would be questioning the nonsense you spew and the nonsense of the radical progressive media in which you watch. When you read and educate yourself, like I have, you recognize the overt lie of the radical progressive left. The radical left is so use to speaking to the uneducated, and having them never question their propoganda that they suddenly become irrate when they meet someone who will not buy into their polluted viewpoints. If you notice, people on this site will investigate everything you say and will not believe it just because you say so, or because you call them a name. They are smart and question peoples motives and agenda’s and can see right through them. Like anyone on FOX says, if you find fault then provide your viewpoints and back them up with facts. That statement alone defeats the progressives agenda. Sorry, but it is true. Americans are tired of the rhetoric and the propaganda, and that is all the progressive have left.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, I didnt notice that, amazing. It truly is pathetic that Obama’ regime hates this country

  • Anonymous

    It’s typical progressive! A progressive is so use to talking to their own kind or to less than intelligent people, that they do not expect anyone to question them the way you have. How many times have you heard a progressive quote, so called, facts and then you investigate and find out everything they said was a lie. Progressives have it down to a art. They will spew a line of bologne, that you have never heard before, that sounds good, but doesn’t seem to pass the smell test You then investigate and find out it was all contrived.

  • Anonymous

    I agree, whole heartedly!

  • Anonymous

    That isn’t what he did at all. Re-read his statement and try not to slant it to what you wanted him to say.

  • Anonymous

    He is saying that they use the race card in order to create confusion and chaos etc. He is saying progressives use the race card to distract from the point of the discussion and to cover up their real agenda’s.

  • Anonymous

    Nope. You don’t have facts. If you did, you wouldn’t be here sucking up all the pandering from Beck to confirm you right-wing bias and bigotry. You are the biggest kind of fool: one who believes himself educated when all he KNOWS are the opinions of those who BELIEVE as he does. It’s like thinking a tautology proves a hypothesis, that is, pure idiocy. Be gone, conservative insect. Bother me no more.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, okay. So it’s about the conspiracy theory nuts who affirm all who disagree with them want to destroy the country. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, he said the NAACP was a bipartisan group. For heaven’s sake these people are way to use to being in their bubble. That is like Hitler saying he is bi-partisian when it comes to Jews and the Aryan. Seriously, does he think we can’t list all the events of the NAACP and prove they are not only not bi-partisian but are bigotted. The NAACP, I think, was started for good reason, but the leaders suddenly realized their power and became corrupt.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for your reply. There are so many unanswered questions. My impression was, if you earn income you have to file a tax return, it doesn’t matter if you owe, you owe as a penalty. There was a case of a woman here in Oregon who filed a false tax return claiming she earned 2 million (?) and should be returned 1 million in over payment. The figures aren’t exact, it just shows the government isn’t keeping track and those who have help with learning how to get around the system, will be able to and the rest of us will have to pay. My healthcare insurance have always cost me more than my actual amount of visits, plus I prefer naturalpathic for curing my ills.

  • Anonymous

    wvelie,  Yes, you are right–bipartisan was the word.  To which I say, huh?

    Maybe in their mind.   They have long since passed the days when their reason

    for beginning their organization is still their reason for being today.  Don’t they

    appear to be an arm of the Democratic party?  How does that square with being

    called bipartisan?

  • Anonymous

    You Libertarians.. HA you are the one who doesn’t understand shit for saying that republicans are as Conservative as Libertarians, how big did those fake ass conservatives grow the government last time they had power? Is that what you call conservative? Admit it you voted for MR big government Bush and was defending his actions. You are just another one of the Republicans who claim to be a Libertarian you bullshit mofo. Your kind are easy to spot because you always show your true colors when you start talking to much.

  • Anonymous

    Why do you assume I attribute that to all black people?

    I refer to a segment of people who behave in a particular way, which applies to some black, some white, some brown, etc…

    It isn’t the skin colors that my post is deriding, but the attitude.

    For example. Alan West? It doesn’t apply to him.
    Herman Cain? Doesn’t apply to him.

    It is the attitudes from multiple races that act as tho the black community needs special attention and handling, which I completely disagree with.

    Since you took it as a racial thing, that it applied to the race instead of the behavior, then, in my eyes, that makes you just one of those closet racists that I don’t respect.

    The NAACP itself, is an organization based on race, and not equality. Just look at their history.

    I can’t stand Romney, but he did the right thing treating them the same as any other group he spoke before, unlike Obama and H.Clinton did.

    To me, that showed Obama and H.Clinton’s racism that Romney didn’t display.

    Obama and H.Clinton talked to them as black people.
    Romney talked to them as men and women.

    There is a difference.

    – Smoov

  • Anonymous

    Note how Fine Tapestry doesn’t actually engage your points, but just tries to insult and demean.

    Typical strategy of someone who can’t back it up.

    – Smoov
     

  • Anonymous

    And again, Fine Tapestry is unable to engage.

    – Smoov
     

  • Anonymous

    I would go.

    I want to hear what the people I don’t like or agree with, are saying.

    I wouldn’t applaud, but I’d definitely want to hear what he says.

    – Smoov
     

  • Anonymous

    This is so damn funny. 
    Why do we have politicians who bow to these joke groups like the NAACP
    and NOW?  I wish we could elect
    politicians who are not trying to get elected for the job security, the great
    medical plan, entering Congress as paupers and leaving as millionaires,  and the pension that they receive after office.  I wish we could elect politicians who have
    actually read the United States Constitution and understand the limits that are
    placed on the Federal Government.  This
    goes for the Supreme Court Justices too. 

    We have the likes of Joe Biden who was elected to the Senate
    by the stupid people of Delaware only because he did not want to work at a real
    job.  We have the likes of the three
    women Justices on the Supreme Court who have no conception of what the United
    States Constitution says and have never read the Federalist Papers.

    Where are these people coming from and how do they continue
    to be elected to office?  People like
    Pelosi, Reid, Schummer, and the list goes on. 
    The IQ of the Representatives and Senators that are in office must
    really be low compared to our Founding Fathers and the members of Congress
    during 1776 and the 1800′s.

    You Americans who have no conception of the United States
    Constitution and who get their news from the Liberal Press, please stay home on
    voting day.  I do not need your
    uninformed vote canceling out my informed vote.

  • Anonymous

     If your are an uninformed voter and get your news from the Liberal Press then stay home on voting day.  If you do vote, are you going to vote for the Marxist that we now have in office?  His Mother was a communist, his father was an anti-colonist.  When he died in Kenya Obama Mother married an Indonesian who she thought was a Communist, but wasn’t.  She divorced him then sent Obama to Hawaii to live with his grandparents who put him in contact with another Communist who had a FBI file a foot thick.  When Obama went to the University he stated in his book that he tried to take courses from communist leaning professors.  How can he not be a fricking communist?  You are what your environment is.

  • Anonymous

     What bullshit!  Using the race card again.  Just because I think Obama is a Marxist has nothing to do with the color of his skin.  In fact, the person I wanted to run for President was Cain and the last time I check he was 100% black.

  • sparducks

    Flappin your gums again with more mindless tripe? Why dont you try to comment on the video. Romney showed not only class but courage. You are only here to poke your fingers in someones eye. Try to make a valid point. Retard.

  • sparducks

    Yawwwwwn!

  • sparducks

    Blather.

  • sparducks

    Shite

  • sparducks

    More excrement.

  • Anonymous

     It think they booed him solely because he called it Obama-care.  If he would have called it anything else nobody would have noticed.

    P.S.  Vouchers or not, the feds have no business in the education system.  This reminds me of Romney’s stance on bailouts.(he would applied stimulus(bailouts) correctly).

    The fact of the matter is, local problems cant be fixed by the federal government, Republican or not.

  • Anonymous

    You’ve grown lazy, bigot.

  • Anonymous

    The rantings of a closeted racist. Listen, if you have to point at Cain and West to prove you are not racist, then you are, simple as that. If you think blacks are racist for grouping in order to fight together against inequality, you are a racist yourself. If you think Obama is a racist for talking to black people as a black person, then you are a racist. Sorry, but you fail miserably at arguing that you are not a racist. You fell into every trap.

  • Anonymous

    Only racists bother to “trap” people.

  • Anonymous

    I still think Cain would have been Obama’s biggest threat (well, maybe on par with Paul’s level of threat to him)…

    The Dems wouldn’t have been able to use the race card effectively, particularly when Cain is blacker than Obama (who isn’t black, but mixed-race)

    How could they attack Cain on job creation?

    When Cain didn’t know something, he didn’t feed you a line of BS for 2 minutes that said nothing, he told you he didn’t know, and when the next time the question came up, he had looked into it, and answered. Mad respect for a politician who will just tell you flat out he doesn’t know.

    The Dems had to take Cain out at all costs.

    – Smoov
     

  • greywolfrs

    I did not vote for GWB, nice try. You are just another wannabe Libertarian that doesn’t know the first thing about it. I have been registered Libertarian for 14 years and you just found out? And you have the nerve to say this to anyone else? You are the one that is full of shit.

  • greywolfrs

    Maybe so, but that can be said of any establishment lackey, from either side…

  • greywolfrs

    I can not stand to hear Obamao talk anymore. It’s just more lies…

  • Anonymous

     WHY do people want to send their tax money to the Feds anyways, when so much of the time, all they do is send them back to the states and localities as Federal grants?

    HOW is that supposed to be better than just sending our tax money to the states and localities directly?

    All sending them through the Feds first does, is allow the Feds to use the money as bribery for their own ends, and most of the time, the Feds have no business sticking their nose into it in the first place!

    We should be paying MUCH less in Federal taxes, and a little more in state and local taxes. We would at the very least, have more assurance that our tax dollars are being used closer to home, by people who better understand our local needs.

    – Smoov

  • Anonymous

    Politicians? Wasn’t aware they’re now considered a Race… :)

  • Anonymous

    Well, i can assume you would rather be dealing with your good friends the shia.. i’m sure they will be kind and accept you as a brother until in no longer benefits them.. and then were will you run? 

  • Anonymous

    Well at least Obama is helping to move the economy.. didn’t he create 80K last month?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think it is fair to say they were hijacked…

    They were welcomed with open arms by the ignorant members they cater to, who voted for them.

    – Smoov

  • Anonymous

     He isn’t on the ballot… (eyerolls)

  • Anonymous

    If you would like to see racism go for a walk in the projects tonight…. you can give us your report tomorrow or when you get out of the hospital. Have a good time… :-)

  • Anonymous

    um… yeah… sorry, greywolfrs, but actionjksn is right about this (tho perhaps not as eloquent as he could be :) )

    The Republicans have been divorced from the concept of conservatism for decades now, except for how it gets used in a talking point.

    Trying to say they are just as conservative as Libertarians is just laughable.

    The Libertarians themselves are a response to the Republicans abandoning conservative policies, except for when it comes to countering liberal social issues on personal liberty, such as ending marijuana prohibition or unrestricted marriage and other issues. On those, the Republicans are Authoritarian, but call it Conservative.

    While I appreciate you (greywolfrs) wanting to be Libertarian, I think you still have a lot to learn about what being one actually means, and seeing the Democrats and Republicans for what they actually are, and not for their mission statements and propaganda.

    We don’t get a lot of public exposure as it is, which we desperately need more of. On those bits that we do get, we can’t waste them by not getting it right the first time.

    – Smoov

  • Anonymous

    I do not think that word means what they think it means…

    same as how people are calling the most recent vote to repeal the ACA this past week, as bipartisan, just because FIVE Dems voted with the Reps.

    Bipartisan my ass…

    – Smoov
     

  • Anonymous

    Yes, it is… giving us more material to discredit him with.

    I want to hear it all. Give him all the rope he needs.

    – Smoov

  • Anonymous

    ROTFL

    FT + VT = Dumb and Dumber

  • Anonymous

    I agree Smoov, you made some great points.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, if healthcare is soooooooooooo important to you then I say educate yourself and don’t jus go along. For heaven sakes, no one read the bill and Nancy P. is saying you have to vote for it to find out what is in it. Say What? Now you have a bunch of NAACP members booing Mitt because healthare is important to them? Bull Pucky None of them even took the time to even try to understand the bill. If Obama says it is good then they believe it. After all, it takes far less effort to do nothing then actually investigate what Obamatax means for them What is even worse is too many think that Obama is getting the big bad rich guy to pay for their healthcare, their food stamps, their mortgages etc. Too many are looking to have their lives paid for by someone else. Too many think they are owed. Too many believe they are in their postion in life because someone else ruined their life. Rarely, do you see anyone take responsibility. Margret Thatcher is right, “Socialism is Great until you run out of someone elses money.”

  • Anonymous

    Your facts and logic are so bizarre and unrelated to reality that I’ll just set you straight as best I can in this brief space and then you may continue to spit into the wind or turn and learn, as you prefer.

    Pelosi’s statement does not bear on the discussion. It had to do with her view of Romney’s political calculus.

    But far more important is your complete misunderstanding of health care and insurance. You posit a single hypothetical case and want to believe it represents a valid, general argument about one of the most complex, multifaceted issues facing us. That is typical of the backwards reasoning of the Right today on many issues. You cannot draw general truths through the use of personal, let alone hypothetical, narratives. Obamacare addresses the reality that our dysfunctional and overly-expensive healthcare system was not sustainable. The bill was very carefully crafted over a period of years, then adjusted to political realities (alas). It was well-researched and thoroughly read by many, many people. Under the circumstances, it represents a very reasonable, responsible, measured and moderate attempt to address an enormously complex issue at the heart of national wellbeing. Obamacare is not very similar to most European systems, and Europe is not begging us to avoid their route. Most developed countries, in Europe and elsewhere, have healthcare systems that are more cost-effective, equally high-quality overall, and more popular than ours. The ACA will promote access to healthcare overall, improve general health of the population and reduce the budget deficit overall, according to the best information we have from the non-partisan CBO.

    I write this in order to promote others’ awareness, especially for those locked in the Right-wing closed information loop, as it seems you are. If you disbelieve any of this, you can either check it out for yourself (I have read, heard and studied this issue from all points of view for years) or continue believing fantasies. The more people believe as you do, the poorer our country’s state of health and the worse our future prospects.

  • Anonymous

    On more thing since Obama’s healthcae took over my insurance company sent me a letter explaining my premiums are going up because of the affordable care act. In orde to keep my insurance I had to down grade from a $500 deductable to a $5,000 deductable. I got my payment down to about $165 per month downgrading my policy. In less than a year my healthcare provider has me paying $365 per monthfor the same down graded insurance all i anticipation of Obamacare. Now you find out that anyon who is making over $14,000 a year s going to have to pay for insurance or get hammered with the Obama tax. If yu made $14,000 per year do yu think you could afford a tax of $700 dollars or healthcare? These folks who had no insurance could go to emergency and get 100% care withoutpaying anything. Tomorrow they wlll have healthcare an will be taxed $700 they do not have. Obamaca is oing to drain the healthcare system of all funds. Soon we will lok jst like the European system where instead of getting immediate healthcare there will be committees. These comittes will determine when and if you get the care you need. Paper work will explode and you will be the firs one complaining of how you had cancer and had to wait 9 months to get an MRI. You will be tellng everyne how the could have save your life r your daughters life had they acted quickly. Too late! All because you failed to read the whole healthcare plan, listen to those who are aready on it, or question how such a plan could add so may people and not be forced to dumb down the quality and timing of services. Add to the fact that our debt is higher now than what our companies are producing in revenue. Soon, American companies will be fleeing the Uited States just to survive. The tax base will dry up since 51% of Americans are not payng taxes now, yet the rich are our enemy. Anyone who stops to think will say, “Its not the rich, its there isn’t enough jobs.” If you lower the individual tax and the corporate tax, companies stay and others come back home. Money begins to flow and revenues from tax increase because their are more jobs. Regan proved this fact, he double the tax revenues when he loweed the tax rates.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, you are very Narcissistic. I really mean it, you have all the symptoms. You might want to get that checked out. You are really scaring the folks on this site.

  • w. Parker

    Every sentence of yours includes “racism” or “bigot”. Where do you live, an island without any communication from the mainland?  I expand what SteveNevada posted, get in your car and drive endlessly through the streets of Chicago, LA, Houston, Atlanta, etc etc etc and hope that you carry hospitalization insurance.  It’s obvious that you hate Glenn with every cell in your body but were you on vacation with your homo friend celebrating Karl Marx’s birthday when Glenn came out in the very beginning of the Zimmerman case and called Zimmerman a “racist”? - something i strongly disagreed until all facts/evidence was collected.  All evidence now concludes that racism was not a factor.  Why no credit to Glenn by you??   

  • sparducks

     Boooooooooooring. Fag.

  • Anonymous

    I had to laugh when I read your comments because I am in the healthcare industry and understand the industry and history more than you ever will. My eyes are opened for what I have seen and witnessed. Now, why did you really write? How many years do you have in the healthcare profession? What credentials do you have? I think a lot of people on this site would love to know. One thing we have all learned about progressives is they are not about the truth, they believe in Saul Alinsky and “Rules for Radicals.”

  • sparducks

    I’ve already had you. your’e boring.

  • Anonymous

    Randall,  I understand your frustration.  Please try to post in a more civil manner

    without so many crude words.   Yes, it is possible.   You don’t have to spell out

    the entire word.  Folks here are pretty smart and can figure out what you mean.  : )

  • Anonymous

    Well, Smoov, ya gotta take what you can.  Five votes are better

    than 0 votes.  But, you’re right.  Not exactly bipartisan.  Puts me

    in mind of the passage of Obamacare with 0 Rep. votes.  They

    didn’t actually have the chance to work on it though, did they?

  • Anonymous

    IMHO, they don’t get to use the word ‘bi-partisan’ until the other party has at least a percentage in the double-digits, joining the other side’s vote.

    Even then, could argue about how bi-partisan it is,  but I’m not going to complain at that point, but… 2.6% of Dems voted with the Reps, and people have the nerve to call that a bi-partisan vote?

    Do they think we’re idiots!? (um, nvm, don’t answer that… they do…)

    – Smoov

  • w. Parker

    It wasn’t so much the establishment media ignoring him as much as his own words in the debates.  I know many have defended him saying he is for a strong military, but i and many others are unconvinced he would want to remain the supreme superpower in the world.  If he thought obozo was a big of threat as we all agree, why isn’t he out there campaigning for Romney? Seems a sore loser to me 

  • w. Parker

    You’re right.  The majority need a “crutch”, affirmatve action, a preference, otherwise they’ll yell “discrimination” and sue your ass in a NY second.  Not all but many.  Their excuse for today’s failures – slavery…After 150 years that excuse is getting old.  Let an oriental come to this country who can’t speak english.  They’ll wash dishes for a living while attending college making a 4.0 GPA and live 6 to a one bedroom apt. and are too proud for a hand-out.  It’s mostly about “culture”.  Look at Africa…Look at our major cities in America – everywhere in America, illegitimate birth rate, crime rate and welfare rate percentages.  It’s all about “reality”, not about racial bias but common sense, accepting responsibility for yourself and an even playing field for “all”… It’s about a continuation of our great country/society for another 250 years

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe you for one second. I can smell bullshit from a mile away and it’s coming straight from your mouth every time you open it. Sorry I had to hurt your feelings but you asked for it. You may have registered for something 14years ago but it’s hard telling what it was. Now if you’re lucky another globalist Bush will run for office so you can vote for him again.

  • Anonymous

     Why would he campaign for Romney?

    From Paul’s point of view, Romney is just as much of a corrupt big-government type of politician he is against to begin with.

    Oh, maybe if Romney’s camp and the RNC didn’t try to sabatoge Paul’s primary run in the way that they did, he could have somehow justified supporting Romney, but after all that? Hell no.

    Paul is a republican’s republican. Romney is a RINO…

    Oh, and btw? We aren’t the supreme superpower in the world, and haven’t been for a while. We’re a joke in the world’s eyes.

    You can’t have a strong military built on the foundation of a weak crumbling economy and infastructure.

    Paul wants us to get healthy again at home first, and he’s absolutely right. First things first. If we aren’t willing to get ourselves straightened out at home? Then we’re useless.

    – Smoov

  • Anonymous

     BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!

    )wiping tears from his eyes(

    – Smoov

  • Anonymous

    He’s, at  best, just another academic type who doesn’t have much experience to draw on when it comes to applying their theories to the real world.

    If we aren’t able to stop this monstrosity, I believe he is going to be in for a very rude awakening.

    If he believe health care is expensive now? He’s going to be longing for the health system we’ve had up until a couple years ago.

    I will give him one compliment, he’s very eloquent. Slipping the BS gently past our tongues before we swallow, instead of trying to shovel it in like so many others do, but eating BS is still eating BS, no matter how you garnish it up.

    – Smoov
     

  • Anonymous

    (I’m going to be racist for this comment)

    The Dems/Progs are just trying to keep their house-n****rs happy…

    – Smoov

  • Anonymous

    Oh come on, give him the credit he is due…

    If it wasn’t for him, we would have had a net loss of 285K jobs instead of only 205K.

    – Smoov
     

  • Anonymous

    Harassed by pundits for what things like the lifeline program…. get a free android cell phone with a free 250 minutes each month…. we’ve talked to our local phone company about the program and they do have it….

    Makes sense to me. free cell phones furnished by the government on the tax payer dollar… or you can choose a land line if you’d like. But i think most drug dealers living in the projects would prefer the cell phone.

    Obama’s new campaign slogan should be – “vive la france” or “viva la greece”

  • greywolfrs

    You are laughable. My feelings are not hurt, but you are a complete fool. See, I am a Ron Paul supporter. I voted for him last time and will be doing the same this time. On the other hand, I am sure you pulled the lever for McCain and will be pulling the lever for Romney. Dunce.

    P.S. I didn’t catch what your former User ID was or why you felt the need to change it? Maybe it’s Woreti, changing your ID again, still thinking no one would know. Moron.

  • Anonymous

    Simply diversionary tactics… when facts don’t work. I guess Tapestry and Victor’s high standards and ethics against propaganda only apply to people who disagree with them!!

  • w. Parker

    I like many of Paul’s domestic policies.  Me and most others are fearful of his foreign policies.  We can’t sit by in some cases while evil consumes other areas of the world, otherwise one day we will eventually be boxed in by evil (Russia/China).  Without a doubt we have the undesputed greatest military power on earth – second to none, but an incompetent mouse in charge who wants to weaken it and unable/unwilling to use it to our advantage.  No one – nobody can ever convince me that Romney is as bad as obozo – no one.  Much of the same suspicion and things said about Romney were said about Reagan, and look what happend

  • Anonymous

    I think a more pressing issue is that after 35 years of service and 620 bills, you only can create a consensus to pass 1 bill (numbers up to this year).  That shows not only that he should not be President.. he has no business being in the senate.  

  • Anonymous

    You’ve repeated your logical fallacy, i.e. drawing a general conclusion from an individual case, and you didn’t address the specific points I raised.  Your professed expertise strikes me as even more bizarre in light of your contrary-to-fact assertions, but we know that every profession draws all kinds of people and that human intellect is usually trumped by human emotion, giving us a surprising ability to believe whatever narratives make us feel good.  That’s why I write – to exercise my ability to better understand those with whom I disagree and to, perhaps, learn how to get through the passion to the intellect in both of us, or at least to a sense of common citizenship.  Wvevlie – and any others on this site who may read this – do you not understand that people on the other side of political issues are equally as human in every way, in their lives, goals, aspirations and morals as you and yours?  And that your stated idea that “progressives..are not about truth”, allusions to Alinsky, etc. serves to dehumanize an entire group of people?  And that dehumanization is the jumping off point for the slippery slope that leads to all the worst behaviors we’re capable of?  People on my side of these kinds of issues have a different viewpoint, usually derived culturally, about how society works and how to make it better.  I’ve done a great deal of research and followed these events in depth and as dispassionately as I can, developing strong opinions, while at the same time, I’ve also made several very dear friends whose political beliefs are much closer to yours than to my own.  In one case, an out-of-state business colleague and I have spent days driving together on business, all the while discussing religion and politics (he’s a devout, conservative Christian from the deep south, I’m a coastal Jewish liberal), agreeing on very little and somehow becoming dear friends, probably because we both find it so refreshing, liberating and unexpected to find a wonderful person with such a  different point of view.  It’s still frustrating for me to talk politics with these friends, and we continue to disagree for the most part and occasionally bicker, but we  cherish each other’s friendship all the more for its rarity; it’s precious.  The ideas and feelings they’ve shared with me have deepened my understanding of both politics and people and made me very aware of the difference between the two.  That’s my suggestion for you, and I wish you the best with it.

  • sparducks

     This is FT’s MO. Hit and run. He thinks he’s some kind of genius because he hangs out with libs and drinks cocktails with his pinky finger erect. He’s totally swishy just like his beliefs.

  • sparducks

    I can just see you out there at a Obama rally chanting melodically with the whole crowd,”Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama.” As you sing “Obama” the shear thrill of worship just takes your breath away and tears roll off your cheeks, your so excited you spasm and start speaking in tongues. Hail Obama your messiah.

  • sparducks

     Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama,

  • sparducks

    The problem with you libetarians is that you expect everyone to hear your side of the argument and fall over themselves to switch parties. Won’t happen most conservatives will flee when they hear about legalizing pot. You can cry and scream all you want. Yes the message is great and if people would think critically about your arguments they would conclude them sound. The problem is people will not think critically. they do not consider facts. They get emotional and will shut you out and your candidate will become a fringe kook. You have to invade the party like a parasite or as in your case an antibiotic and slowly work to reform it. I totally agree with a lot of the Ron Paul message but not all of it. And to be so rigid about it is foolish. For the love of the country Ron Paul should back out. We should really work on taking the teeth out of the presidency anyhow and return them  to congress where they belong. The El Presidente persona needs to be busted in this country and power returned to the people. The congress is the key.

  • sparducks

     The problem with you libetarians is that you expect everyone to hear
    your side of the argument and fall over themselves to switch parties.
    Won’t happen most conservatives will flee when they hear about
    legalizing pot. You can cry and scream all you want. Yes the message is
    great and if people would think critically about your arguments they
    would conclude them sound. The problem is people will not think
    critically. they do not consider facts. They get emotional and will shut
    you out and your candidate will become a fringe kook. You have to
    invade the party like a parasite or as in your case an antibiotic and
    slowly work to reform it. I totally agree with a lot of the Ron Paul
    message but not all of it. And to be so rigid about it is foolish. For
    the love of the country Ron Paul should back out. We should really work
    on taking the teeth out of the presidency anyhow and return them  to
    congress where they belong. The El Presidente persona needs to be busted
    in this country and power returned to the people. The congress is the
    key.

  • sparducks

     Most people will flee to the other side when they hear someone call them a Mofo. Unless there is a civil war or some other radical event in this country you are not going to take down the GOP. Libertarians should have infiltrated and completely taken over the GOP years ago. But by being so inflexible you have isolated yourselves and most people consider you kooks, because of emotions. Take for instance legalizing drugs. My Italian grandmother hears that talk she heads for the hills. She will refuse to hear you and now your out one voter plus all her friends and family. All the midwestern farmers and bible belt folks aren’t gonna like to hear that either. So drop that issue at least for now and start winning elections. You have to win their hearts first to get their vote. You Mofo.

  • Anonymous

    God, not messiah.

  • Anonymous

    I have had the same name since before there ever was a Disqus, you dipshit. So what was your ID before you changed it? Whatever you do please don’t ever change your ID again I like you because it’s so easy to hit a nerve with you. Almost like shooting fish in a barrel. Isn’t your name really Off White Chihuahua? HA HA HA. Now why don’t you quit masturbating in front of the computer and go try to go out and find a girlfriend and maybe that will help you to chill out boy.

  • Anonymous

    I said mofo as a slightly more polite way of saying motherfucker. Because that guy is being a total dick.
    Now the problem with trying to be too willing to comply with the republicans and be too much like them is that there would end up being little to no difference between the two. Case in point The Tea Party. The republicans hijacked them with a quickness. The mainstream republicans saw how pissed off and fed up with their shit people were. And what did they do? They said we love the Tea Party and they did the infiltrating. And it was so easy and predictable. If you ignore the way the two party’s talk so differently and ignore some social issues that don’t really mean that much, as far as the overall condition of the country in the whole scheme of things. Just look at what they do do the country. There isn’t as much difference in the two major party’s as is appears. For instance The Patriot Act VS the NDAA, And the fact that both party’s presidents fully supported and implemented The United Nations Agenda 21, and both party’s presidents supported NAFTA, and it goes on and on I could fill a page up with more of these comparisons of the big things. And the party’s are both very good at making Libertarians look like crazy’s. And the so called “War On Drugs” HA. Ever notice how the more billions they throw at it the more drugs come in? Do you really believe they want to win it? How much money would stop flowing if they did win it? Lawyers, Cops Judges, more cops. Weapons,Jails, Prisons, all the stuff I can’t even think of right now, all the bribes from the millionaire drug kingpins. all the bribes from the lower level drug dealers. Drug programs, rehab facility’s. What happens to all the money if there is no so called drug war?

  • Sandie

    LMAO!

  • sparducks

    I know what Mofo means. I hear you. I would love for the Feds to be dismantled. And when I put on my thinking cap the Libertarian platform makes sense. But you guys come off as kooks. Ron Paul comes off as a kook even though he may be right. I dont know what the answer is. check out the county sheriff project and the throw them all out project. I do think that we put too muck emphasis on the presidency though. we should take the congress. if the tea party didn’t work this time do it again. You can hire a new house every two years that’s the key. Now have a nice day you Mofo.

  • Anonymous

    Credible, Glen Beck same sentence? 

  • greywolfrs

    I do not expect anyone to hear my or any other Libertarian argument. In fact, I fully expect anyone that is not a Libertarian to plug their ears and run screaming. Why? Probably because people refuse to see, hear or recognize the truth. That is their prerogative, but they refuse to see that they are taking the rest of us down with them, that is where the problem comes in. About the pot issue, people refuse to see that we are spending BILLIONS on failed drug war. Those drugs are still here and people are still doing them. At least by legalizing them, we can stop spending tons of money on the drug war and putting people in jail. It also takes the money out of the hands of street gangs and the cartels. It would also create jobs to produce and distribute them. Hell, the government could even charge a tax on them, just like cigarettes and alcohol. It’s too bad that most people refuse to take responsibility for their own children and think the government needs to do it for them.
    Being rigid? We have compromised our principles for decades and voted for the lesser of two evils. Sorry, but I will no longer compromise my principles, it’s as simple as that.
    Last, but certainly not least, the only ones who can take the power out of the presidency is the people in congress. It would easily be within their power, but as long as people continue to pull the lever for the same monkeys that have been in congress, nothing will change. Look at how long people like Piglosi, Hairy Balls or even John McCain have been in congress. I hear what you are saying, but we can not afford to wait 10 or 20 years to change this. We are in DEEP trouble NOW. The debt and deficits are out-of-control. The system will collapse long before what your talking about will happen.
    It’s OK though, the second civil war is coming, sooner than anyone thinks. The funny part is it’s going to be left wing idiots who start it.

  • greywolfrs

    The same name since before disqus? As you have a total of 39 comments? There’s some B S right there, I thought you could smell B S from amile away? I guess not. You have hit nothing, you are just proving what a moron you truly are. I find it funny you are talking and jacking off and not having a female, I see you are projecting. What’s the matter, did your hand turn you down again?

  • Anonymous

    Parker, I think you should read about the legislative journey of Medicare Part D under W. Bush and then read some reliable (i.e. not Right-wing) sources about the same journey made by the ACA.  While both unavoidably involved some ugly sausage-making, Obama and the Dems took a course that was far more bipartisan and responsible than Bush and the Reps, especially as regards the bill’s fiscal impact.  Re how most people vote, it’s contrary to human nature and the survival of the species to favor anything beyond one’s own self interest.  Moreover, we have such balkanized access to divergent media narratives, that your idea of the common good will not be the same as those outside your information bubble.  Our country is composed of a virtually infinite number of overlapping groups, each with its own viewpoints.  When you say things like “we, the majority want a fair and level playing field…”, you are making assumptions so far beyond your knowledge that the statement has no practical meaning.

  • sparducks

    I hope your wrong about war. That would suck. As far as voting for a third party guy, I did that with Ross Perot in ’92 and we ended up with Clinton and her husband for eight years. But my point is more this; Why do we make the presidency such a big deal? Screw the president.The power is in the purse. let’s throw these bastards out of office every 2 years if we have to. Let them go to washington to work for us. We don’t send them there to pass endless legislation that is like a millstone around our necks. A hostile house of representatives is just the ticket. They could just refuse to fund these mindless entitlements. Including the war on drugs. You guys want the tea party back , take it back. I dont know how but I think the answer is in the house of representatives and the county sheriffs office. I dont know if you are aware of this movement that is afoot but if the people would elect constitutional sheriffs they could anul a lot of the crappy laws and regulations that come down the pike. We must reduce this federal government. Uniting Americans is the way. I hope not killing each other. But it may come to that. Let’s put our heads together to keep that from happening. that is wisdom, to fear God.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks!  I was wondering if anyone would write and, since I deliberately left little room for anything other than a thoughtful response, it makes sense that I got only a cackle instead.  What else could you do?
    Since you appreciate eloquence, you might like this analysis of Right-wing thinking:  http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/104908/Wieseltier-diarist-two-sentences   Cheers! And feel free to write any time.

  • greywolfrs

    The way our government was set up with three “equal” branches was quite intelligent. It means no one branch has too much power, rightfully so.

    As far as the rest, the problem comes in when the Feds have stolen so much power and use it to make some of things you are discussing null. Maybe uniting is the way, but this country is fractured. Make no mistake, the left wing idiots will fight for their “causes.”

  • sparducks

    With what, tennis rackets?

  • Anonymous

    First of all marburyvsmadison you blocked your reply so no one can respond to you. I am having to respond to myself. Second you made no attempt to give me your expertise? Third, when people say blah, blah, blah, blah , blah it is because you were long winded an had nothing to say. This subject is about health care, not you demeaning everyone who has an opinion other than yours. Fourth, look up the word narcissist, and then read your responses to me, you will find the word fits you like a glove. Fifth, you tried to pawn yourself off as someone who engages to understand? You think people can’t read? Really! At no time did you try an understand the other side. To you, our thoughts were bizarre, mislead, or backward reasoning. Oh,my personal best is you dubing down my health care experience by saying, “Your professed expertise strikes me as even more bizarre in light of your contrary-to-fact assertions, but we know that every profession draws all kinds of people and that human intellect is usually trumped by human emotion, giving us a surprising ability to believe whatever narratives make us feel good.” These are your own words!
    Sixth: We all get it, so stop utilizing Saul Alinski to re-direct and deflect. For heaven’s sake, your disertation went on and on without providing your expertise or one speific fact about health care. It was all about attacking my character and anyone who did not believe your way of thinking.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry Smoovious, but marburyvsmadison blocked her reply and then claims she only got a cackled response. Only a liberal could think this way.

    Anyway, the website marburyvsmadision cited below is in association with the Domocratic Leadership Party; you know, people like Debbie Shulz. It is also associated with the New Democrats. The New Republic endorsed Bill Clinton, Joseph Liberman and Barack Obama over Hilary Cinton. They believe in income inequality, and of course, think all rich people got their money because they stole it from everyone else. They have an article about how an expansive welfare state can be consistent with strong economy quoting Denmark. Now there is a real comparison, don’t you think? How many peope in denmark, what is their industry and how does it compare to America? It doesn’t but leave it to a liberal to believe anything radical w/o quesioning it. Last, The New Republic is strongly in favor of Universal Health Care, you know Obamacare. So, marburyvsmadisons expertise and expanive study is coming from one source, and that’s it! The New Republic. So, go figure! A progressive caught at the old game of being under-educated and pawning themselves off as experts by utilzing a lot of flowery words that said absolutely nothing. When someone comes along that threatens their belief, they immediately use “The Rules for Radicals.” by Saul Alinski, and attack your character. After all what else do they have? Nothing but ideologies that have been proven false throughout the ages

  • Anonymous

    HEY DUMB FUCK, I have 39 comments on Glen Beck only. I have total 263 on 9 sites combined. And I just saw that you have well over 20 thousand you fucking weirdo. You spend way to much time in front of the computer. You know internet addiction is real, but there may be help for you. I suggest you seek professional counseling for your problem. Or try some good old fashion will power son. I bet you have a pasty white face and a sloppy fat gut don’t you? You might as well keep whacking off for now because you’re never getting layed unless you make some big lifestyle changes. 22,000 posts and that’s just on Disqus? Get a life man, what are you living in moms basement? You can’t be holding down a job or running a business. Do something with your life, your body and mind will thank you and your mom will really thank you….Looser And I thought I was wasting too much time on here man you made me feel much better about my measly 263 comments. I actually work on computers part time in the evenings and when I’m not doing remodeling work and I still don’t have that much time for Disqus and all the other internet activity’s. Oh and I have a wife and a 15 yo kid so another bad prediction on your part dumb ass. I think we have a new name for you, “Bitter Boy” yeah that suits you just fine. OK Bitter Boy now get out there and get you some sun pasty face. It will make you feel better.

  • greywolfrs

    You are a moron.
    1. over 20,000 posts over 6-7 years, nevermind that though, keep proving your stupidity.
    2. I live in the greater Los Angeles area, not many people here are fat, including myself. We get plenty of sun, so not many are pasty white, including myself.
    3. My wife and I had sex last night…
    4. Both of my parents are dead, therefore, I doubt I could be in their basement. Besides, we don’t have basements in CA.
    5. You have a wife and kid? Rosy palm and her sisters does not mean you have a wife and kid.
    6. You are projecting, again. I am not bitter, I simply see reality, you should try it sometime. You didn’t realize until a short time ago that you had Libertarian ideals. Pull your head out of your ass and smell what you are shoveling.
    7. I work on computers ALL the time, that’s what I do. I’m not some wannabe computer guy.

    Good to know that your stupidity is still around, Woreti.

  • greywolfrs

    Please, do not make the mistake of thinking that all liberals are not armed. Some are and the ones that are not, Obamao and the left wing idiots will attempt to arm them…

  • sparducks

    I think if shtf the likely source of hostility would be from the south. Outsiders wouldn’t hesitate to take out americans. I could be wrong. I think actual agression from fellow americans would be minimal. I worked in hollywood for years. I know all the libs there they are not mean people.

  • greywolfrs

    Hollyweird? You do realize that most of the people in Hollyweird are not from there or even from CA, right? I have lived in the greater Los Angeles area my whole life. There are armed left wingers, they may be in smaller numbers than conservatives, but there are some. And as I stated before, the left wing idiots, like Obamao, will attempt to arm them. Actually, I believe you are wrong, the violence will start with things like OWS, which is a left wing thing.

  • sparducks

    dude I am a california native. Born and raised. there isn’t any nook or cranny in and around L.A. That I don’t know. above and below water. As for OWS not a problem.pussies. How’s tito’s tacos.

  • Anonymous

    Whatever you say Bitter Boy.

  • greywolfrs

    OK, punk bitch.

  • greywolfrs

    As am I, born and raised in O.C., now living in the I.E. Tito’s tacos, I prefer Farmer boys.

  • Anonymous

    You’re so brave on the internet Bitter Boy. I bet you wouldn’t say it to my face.

  • sparducks

    H.B? surfer? That’s pretty tough to go from OC to IE.I’m in Texas but i miss cali bad. Wish it hadn’t been hijacked by lib’s and illegals. S.F.valley looks like tijauna. Sad. People don’t even remember what America was.

  • greywolfrs

    Nope, I grew up in Anaheim. My brother is a surfer, but I’m not. I don’t mind the I.E. It’s not bad. I am never leaving, the weather is here. Besides, I live in a target-rich environment…

  • greywolfrs

    Not a problem, I am in Upland, Ca. Come on out, punk bitch…

  • Anonymous

    Hi Bitter Boy.

  • sparducks

     yotes?

  • greywolfrs

    Hi, punk bitch.

  • greywolfrs

    2012 Stanley Cup Champion Los Angeles Kings.

  • greywolfrs

    First, I said Libertarians as just as conservative as SOME Republicans and there are still conservative Republicans out there. As I stated to the moron, most of the Republican politicians are not, but as for Republicans voters, there are.

    Second, I have been a Libertarian for 14 years and fully understand the tenets of it. The first being following the Constitution to the letter. The second being that freedom is for ALL. We may not agree with what others want to do, but as long as they hurt no one else, they are free to do it.

    As far as exposure goes, Libertarians may not get a lot, but to think anything is wasted is false. The reason we do not get much is because the lame stream media (from both sides) fear us. That’s why they do anything in their power to knock down people like Dr. Paul. The establishment fears us, but one thing that can not be denied, the Libertarian party is the party of the Constitution.

  • Anonymous

    Still haven’t went to seek help yet have you Bitter Boy? Come on Bitter Boy I’m rooting for you. You can beat this internet obsession. I don’t know when the next time I will be out to that god forsaken part of the country you live in but if you’re ever near Ohio look me up and Ill let you take a crack at me you little pussy. But you like the internet tough guy thing better than reality anyway don’t you Bitter Boy? I bet you even got cursed with a small penis too didn’t you. That would account for your perpetual anger. That and being stuck in an entire state full of libtards, no wonder you’re such a fucking basket case.
    So let’s review

    1. Counseling

    2. Penis growing pills

    3. Get the fuck out of California

    4 More Counseling

  • Anonymous

     @wvelie:disqus

    Oh, I have to keep ignoring a lot of it. The gov’t parties’ spin machines just keep churning the waters, to keep everything Democrat vs Republican, while day by day, an increasing number of people realize, that the real fight is Progressive vs Libertarian, and that the Dems/Reps, are both currently part of the Progressive side.

    The Reps have no backbone. They compromise. Always compromise.

    End result? The Progressives keep advancing.

    It isn’t even a real fight or compromise. The Progressives in the Republican wing are just playing a part, for show. There is no real push to change course there, it is all about convincing people to accept that it could have been worse, if it wasn’t for them, and not telling their members, that they still lost.

    All it is about, is PR, while they collude, keeping up this fiction of 2 distinct political parties working against each other, while they keep dancing with each other so we don’t look behind the curtain.

    There is a much bigger picture happening here.

    It isn’t about Democrat/Republican anymore, and hasn’t been for a long time.

    It is about Progressive/Libertarian now.

    If anyone is against Progressivism, then be against Progressivism, and if you’re going to be against Progressivism, honestly, how in the hell can you people vote for Romney? Your choice among the gov’t party candidates, is Progressive vs Progressive!

    What kind of choice is that?

    – Smoov

  • Anonymous

    I agree, it would be nice…

    Shame we won’t get one this time around… maybe next election…

    – Smoov

  • Anonymous

    )pries off Randall’s caps-lock key with pliers(
     

  • Anonymous

    greywolfrs…

    The problem with what you said, is it shows that you believe that Republicans are more conservative than Libertarians, which isn’t accurate.

    Having ‘some’ Republicans who lean more conservative than other Republicans, means little, when none of then, save for Ron Paul, are as conservative as Libertarians are, fiscally.

    In a way, Libertarians are also more socially conservative, with their believe that the Fed gov’t has no business even getting involved with social issues to begin with, so they will tend to take whichever position means the greatest freedom to choose your own path for yourself. Isn’t that what being conservative was supposed to be in the first place?

    Republicans are too authoritarian to be conservative.

    To make the claim that Libertarians are just as conservative as some Republicans (or all), is a position that is well divorced from reality.

    – Smoov
     

  • Anonymous

    Nah… 2nd dumbest perhaps…

    I think that “vote for god” guy is the dumbest…

    – Smoov
     

  • Anonymous

    SteveNevada… what’s dismal about it?

    When you look at what all those bills do… piling on more law, more regulation, taking away freedoms, taking away our money, etc etc etc…

    The fact that he participated in passing only 1 bill in all that time, is anything but dismal. I want more… a LOT more of that.

    This whole attitude that our represenatives aren’t serving our interests if they aren’t passing bills constantly is rediculous.

    Our political system has become enthralled with bureaucracy. They won’t be happy until they’ve regulated any sense of individuality and liberty out of us.

    Since the fall of the USSR, we’ve gone head over heels in the direction of replacing them politically.

    We have to stop, and we need a majority in office, who will very sparingly, vote for a bill.

    Passing bad legislation, which goes against your principles and/or those of the people you represent, for the sake of deal-making, facilitates the steady march of Progressivism.

    It is long long overdue, for conservatives to walk the walk and stop talking the talk, draw a line, and go no further.

    The time for never ending compromise with evil, is over.

    – Smoov
    edit: er… on rereading, not sure if you were talking about Paul or Romney. I’m talking about Paul.