Amazing history progressives don’t want you to know

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Glenn literally held history on radio today as he showed the actual letter Thomas Jefferson wrote that may have been the key to getting the Declaration of Independence actually signed. These are the kinds of stories the progressives have worked diligently to erase from American history. If you want to restore America you have to first know what it looked like at the beginning.

“Do you know who Caesar Rodney is?” Glenn asked on radio this morning. “Caesar Rodney played a huge role in the passage of the Declaration of Independence.”

Rodney, a member of the Continental Congress, had been in Dover when he received word on July 1st that that vote for independence was deadlocked. He had to ride eighty miles in a thunderstorm to break the deadlock.

“He rode the horse on July 1st. They came tomorrow. They’re, like, Caesar, Caesar, we need your help. He’s, like, What? I’m busy. You’ve got to get to Congress. We have the Declaration of Independence and if you’re not there, it may not go through. We have to have Delaware and he’s, like, I can’t make it. When is it? They’re, like, we’re voting tomorrow afternoon. He’s, like, I can’t make it there and they said, We have the horses and they have them all staged and you’ve got to ride now. He got on the horse and he rode all day, all night, and he walked in and he was, like, Delaware says aye,” Glenn said.

“This is Thomas Jefferson writing to Caesar: ‘I see a real breaker ahead which fills me with horror. But I hope that prudence and moderation and regard for our own happiness and especially for the cause of reformation throughout the world will induce a spirit of accomodation and save our country and the world entire from the calamity that is threatened. We are the world’s last great hope and its loss will be on our heads. God bless you and preserve you, Thomas Jefferson.’”

Glenn revealed that there would be even more amazing pieces of history unveiled at Restoring Love.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Until now I have not heard of Caeser Rodney; wonderful story, and one more portion of the nations history that needs to be preserved and told to everyone. Glad you have the letter now Glenn, and Jefferson is right to this day: WE are the worlds last great hope as a beackon of freedom and liberty for all; and it is one Obama and the Progressives are desperate to douse for all of time.

  • Anonymous

    Why would that be something the progressives have worked diligently to erase from American history.  I don’t understand.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ronda.barnhurst Ronda Barnhurst

    They do not want us to know our history, because with that we might treasure something other than their lies……. think about it.  What did you learn about in school regarding the Revolutionary War? The founding of this country?  The stamp act?  So little was taught when my son was in school (graduated in 1987) that I was shocked and made sure that he read documents to give him a greater understanding of history.  He kept those books and added to them through the years to teach HIS children with.

  • Anonymous

    Americans are now taught WHAT to think not HOW to be FREE THINKERS!!!  This combined with not teaching anything Pre-Civil war, meaning the principles of our founding fathers, has turned America into a nation of useful-idiots and political dupes.

    The progressives succeeded, they won, it’s not about preventing the progressive dream anymore. It’s about Getting them out of every level of government, every political party, republicans too.

  • rob myers

    i wish i could be there

  • http://twitter.com/RemyVTR15 ToddReece

    236 yrs ago we were the worlds “last great hope”… and the progressives want us to be ‘more European”, even as they are drowning? As long as the historians ever are able to say “were”… we shall know we live on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Newsflash: Jefferson was THE progressive of his day.

    Jefferson’s study of the humanities, including Locke’s “social
    contract,” the influence of Common Sense,
    and Jefferson’s own views about government and freedom converged to produce a
    document among the most influential in human history.  It reads, in part:

     

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are
    created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
    rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.  That to secure these rights, Governments are
    instituted among Men, deriving their just power from the consent of the
    governed.  That whenever any Form of
    Government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the Right of the People to
    alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on
    such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem
    most likely to affect their Safety and Happiness.”

     

    With these words, Jefferson obliterated the status quo.  As far as
    America was concerned, the divine right of kings was over.  Neither the aristocracy nor the government
    was owed blind, abject loyalty.  The
    government serves the people, not vice versa.  
    These progressive ideas now epitomize the core values that are
    quintessentially American.  Freedom.  Equality. 
    Government by the people, of the people and for the people. 

     

    Jefferson could have taken a more conservative approach,
    limiting the Declaration to the mere recitation of grievances against King
    George III.  But Jefferson was thinking
    bigger.  He later described his purpose
    in writing the Declaration as follows: 

     

    “Neither aiming at originality of principle or sentiment, nor
    yet copied from any particular and previous writing, it was intended to be an
    expression of the American mind, and to give to that expression the proper tone
    and spirit called for by the occasion.”

     

    A key principle of conservative thought is to look backward in
    history for solutions, not forward.  Thankfully, Jefferson rejected old structures
    and old ways of thinking, and instead perceived from the American spirit that a
    new and better future was possible. 
    Author Michael Lux observes that, by employing progressive ideas, Tom
    Paine and Thomas Jefferson “literally invented the idea of America.”

  • Anonymous

    More evidence that freedom always remains teetering on the edge of an abyss. It also highlights that there will always be people willing to stand on the sidelines, afraid of change, while others will risk everything to help others achieve their dreams (or at least have the opportunity to do so). In the end, in this country, progressives have been pushing America into socialism for almost a century and have succeeded for far too long because fighting back would have been too inconvenient for most others. Finally, as we rest on the precipice, we’re all starting to realize what’s been lost and what’s being threatened. It’s time to take America back.

    Thank you to all who love the real America, the one where you have the right to pursue happiness, not the right to have a free handout, to live on other people’s backs because you have no interest in working. Let’s take America back from those that want to strip away YOUR rights.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure where you/re going with this, but Jefferson was radical to the current thought of the day but more like a “back to the future’ type of thing at the thought that all men are created equal was in the essence of the creation in Eden – quite unlike the proessive thought process of today.   Jesus of Nazareth was a radical of His day – against the perversion that man had made of the escence of Godliness pesented by the God of Moses- hence a conservative.

  • Anonymous

    AMERICAS CMMUNIST LIBERALS  ==  WE CAN DO WITHOUT THEM COME NOV.

  • Anonymous

    The liberal left thinks that Americans are stupid.
    I don’t!
    Every day more and more people are waking up to
    the realization that something in America is wrong.
    They will be wide awake on election day.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Jefferson was what he was, but modern use of the term progressive isn’t what he envisioned. He envisioned a small federal government, run by average citizens like farmers and shop keepers, not the educated elite who view everything as a us versus them political struggle. He envisioned a country governed by it’s citizens and the government consisting of a part time Congress, not the behemoth you and your regressive compatriots think is progressive. 

    You don’t know much about Thomas Jefferson if you are saying what you did with some sort of imagined correctness and expertise. Jefferson would be completely disgusted with you and your progressive fellows. He wanted liberty above all and for all, where you want restrictions and taxation for all and liberty for the ruling class elitists. 

    Lie some more, but know this; no one is going to believe you or remember anything you say. You are an internet bully, and that’s all. 

    Go back and put that in your pathetic blog. 

  • http://twitter.com/NancyBMauldin Nancy B. Mauldin

    a free handout, to live on other people’s backs because you have no interest in working. Let’s take America back from those that want to strip away YOUR rights. http://HopOnToday.blogspot.com

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DTD5E4BF24F522UVRNTCP2S3M4 powertothebees

    What was the “real breaker” that filled him with horror?

  • Anonymous

    Newsflash:

    Victor Tiffany is a deluded liar and a narcissist. 

  • Anonymous

    When you extensively plagiarize an author’s work, you should attribute your source, unless you want to be bounced on your head for theft of copyright. And THAT will keep your fake lawyer too busy to file your threat of frivolous lawsuits against a bear avatar named MommaGrizzley.
    Again, your lies and hypocrisy have proved to be your undoing. Unattributed sources makes you a LIAR, a FRAUD and an IDIOT.
    Jefferson was not the Progressive of his day.

    “Thomas Jefferson wrote in a private letter, “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”…   “Attacking Federalist policies, he opposed a strong centralized Government and championed the rights of states.” (italics mine)

     [from The Presidential biographies on WhiteHouse.gov are from “The Presidents of the United States of America,” by Michael Beschloss and Hugh Sidey. Copyright 2009 by the White House Historical Association. http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/presidents/thomasjefferson/
    Doesn't sound like Jefferson was a Progressive in the modern sense of the word at all.
    In his book, Notes on the State of Virginia (1785). Jefferson "expressed his beliefs in the separation of church and state, constitutional government, checks and balances, and individual liberty."  (italics mine) "Jefferson and Madison rallied opposition support by anonymously writing the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, which formed the basis of State's rights, declaring that the federal government had no right to exercise powers not specifically delegated to it by the states." (italics mine) ... "His fear of dependence and patronage made Jefferson dislike established institutions, such as banking, government, or military. He disliked inter-generational dependence, as well as its manifestations, such as national debt and unalterable governments." ... ( This definitely doesn't fit the definition of progressivism as a 'socialist democracy'.)"Jefferson and Hamilton were diametrically opposed on the issue of individual liberties. While Jefferson believed individual liberty was the fruit of equality and believed government to be the only danger, Hamilton felt that individual liberty must be organized by a central government to assure social, economic and intellectual equality." (italics mine) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson]
    Alexander Hamilton is more like your idea of a modern day progressive. 
    “Jefferson’s legacy as a champion of Enlightenment ideals has been challenged by various modern historians, who find his continued ownership of hundreds of slaves at Monticello to be in conflict with his stated views on freedom and the equality of men.” [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson] In this regard Jefferson is not the Progressive your plagiarized treatise supposes or proposes.
    Perhaps you should learn the fine art of research, rather than the computer art of cut and paste, to formulate your opinions.
    Stick to your sleazy manifesto of idiocy where your lies and propaganda hold sway.  Intellectual discourse is not your forte.

  • Anonymous

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVTLWKJlacY

    A T.V. cartoon about Caesar Rodney
    So I don’t know how hidden it is Glenn.

  • Anonymous

    He doesn’t know anything about Thomas Jefferson beyond what he cuts/pastes from the work and ideas of others.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn thanks to you part of our american history will be preserved…God Bless You.

  • Anonymous

    Newsflash: You are on the wrong site to try and pull the wool over someones eyes. The people on this site study history, we read. We are not the radical progressives (Comunists) that you normally speak to, wowing them with your perversions of history. We are Americans, proud of our country and our founding fathers. We have not been corrupted by progessive thought, nor were our Founding Fathers because they were learned men who studied history and learned from it. They were not posers! Our Founding Fathers would have terminated any modern day progressive from the government of the United States; they would have recognized them as evil and destructive to our nation. However, progressives have spent so much effort re-writting history, and teaching false doctrine, that it is now impossible to convince them otherwise, even though the facts are right there before them. Glenn has inspired his viewers to search out the truth and not believe him. He has challeged his listeners to educate themselves by reading history and finding the jewels of truth out for themselves and coming to their own conclusions. Many of his listeners took upon themselves that challenge and read, studied and came to our own conclusion The amazing thing is we have come to many of the same truths. Progressives, however, just tell the same stories they have been programmed to say by their radical professors or by a radical left leaning media. These professors are miffed at the idea that Glenn could possibly think that he could learn history by being self taught. They were appalled by the very idea. I remember Ronald Regan being asked, “where did you get your education?” Of course it was a set up question because they new he didn’t attend a prestigious college, but Regan answered, “From the same place everyone gets their education, from a book.”

  • Anonymous

    Here are two facts about Jefferson from quotes from Thomas Jefferson Exhibits:

    1st passage: “Throughout his life, books were vital to Thomas Jefferson’s education and well-being. When his family home Shadwell burned in 1770 Jefferson most lamented the loss of his books. In the midst of the American Revolution and while United States minister to France in the 1780s, Jefferson acquired thousands of books for his library at Monticello. Jefferson’s library went through several stages, but it was always critically important to him. Books provided the little traveled Jefferson with a broader knowledge of the contemporary and ancient worlds than most contemporaries of broader personal experience. By 1814 when the British burned the nation’s Capitol and the Library of Congress, Jefferson had acquired the largest personal collection of books in the United States. ” My point is Thomas Jefferson learned from the past and from others experiences. He didn’t reject the past or change history as progressives are known for when teaching our children. He didn’t lie to get his ideas across and go on the pretense that the ends justified the means. He valued honesty, integrity and history as well as the present.

    2nd Passsage: “Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 B.C.) Roman philosopher, orator, and statesman, was Jefferson’s favorite classical scholar. Jefferson is believed to have modeled his own life on Cicero’s love of study and aristocratic country life. Most of Jefferson’s Ciceronian extracts are from the Tusculan Disputations a discourse or dialogue about pain, grief, and the necessity of coming to grips with death. Jefferson owned more than forty Cicero titles during his life. This is one of the fourteen Cicero titles that came to the Library of Congress in 1815.” My point, Cicero lived in 106 – 43 B.C., almost 2,000 years before Thomas Jefferson; yet, Thomas Jefferson modeled his own life after the past, as you would say. I guess that makes him a conservative? Cicero had a large impact on Thomas Jefferson’s input into the Constitution. So do not tell me that Thomas Jefferson looked forward, for it is clear he looked to the past to gain a better understanding. As a conservative, he knew how important it was to understand history. He wasn’t stupid enough to discount the learnings of the past. Anyone who has studied history knows that we alwasy end up in the same place. Why? Because progressives live in a fantasy world, always telling everyone how smart they are, ignoring history. They are so smart that they make the same mistakes over and over, returning us to the same fate over and over. Thomas Jefferson was not narcissistic like progressives are today. He realized the importance of history. A modern day progressive is so narcissistic that they would never dream of learning from the past; that is why they are so in love with communism. They never learned, many have a love affair with Stahlin or Mao or Che even though they killed millions of their own people. It means nothing to them because they believe the past is the past and it won’t happen again. Yet, what is happening in Syria? What happend in Iraq? Their leaders slaughtered their own people. Wake up!

  • Lioness

    I’ll keep it simple for you. Language has been twisted and misinterpreted throughout history. A simple word such as progressive has one actual meaning, but currently that meaning has been twisted by those who need a new word for socialism. They now hide behind that word in hopes that those who do not learn from history such as yourself will become excited by the prospect of joining them and their NEW slogan. The truth is the idea of freedom that embodies America is still new and fresh. Socialism is not, yet we are still falling for it. Sure you can say Jefferson was a progressive, he was one of the driving forces freeing us from unending socialism. Unfortunately the new progressives hijacked the term. Either you can expose them for what they are or join them on the ride back to the dark ages.

  • Anonymous

    Fantastic and thank you! It makes me proud to see the people on this site that study their history and will not be fooled by posers. You are a credit to all Americans as well as others who have defended the lies of Victor Tiffany. Thank you!

  • Anonymous

    MammaGrizzley, I like your style!  Well said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    In his day, Jefferson was progressive, looking forward, not back. This is not a matter of lying or honesty; it’s a matter of record. Why don’t you quote Jefferson where he claims that Congress should be always “part time?” I doubt he ever said or wrote that, and he certainly could not have foreseen that America would become a world “empire.” It’s pretty certain that he would not have so much as sat down for lunch with a reactionary blowhard like your hero, Mr. Beck.

    If anyone is being a “bully” here, it’s you and your sleazy personal attacks on me. THAT makes you the hypocrite yet again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Something is wrong in America: the corporations have taken over.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Your ignorance is showing. Liberals, by definition, support capitalism. That’s why they are disdained by communists, all twelve or so communists left in America.

    The numbers of radicals in America, anarchists, Marxists and world government advocates, is so small that they don’t show up in polls. Far less than 1%.

    Beck has you terrified of a boogie man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    His idea that all men are created equal goes against the horrible inequality of the current gilded age. He wasn’t “back to” anything. He was forward thinking as was Thomas Paine. 

    Part of what makes Jefferson so influential over the centuries is that he’s embraced as much by libertarians as he is by progressives. It’s only the reactionaries who don’t like what he stood for, which is why he’s been scrubbed from the TX school books.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    “If you want to restore America you have to first know what it looked like at the beginning.”

    Beck won’t tell you this, but I will. Corporations had NO Constitutional rights at the beginning.
    Corporations had to show in their charter applications that they were going to perform a public good.
    Corporate charters had to be passed by the state legislatures and signed by the governors. 
    Corporate lifespans were sharply limited.

    If you want to restore America, you begin by challenging corporate power and influence and help with the effort to abolish corporate Constitutional rights.

  • http://hankrutland.mynikken.net. Fior Gael

    Why does “progressive” imply to me the disregard of what brought us this far?

  • Anonymous

    Thank you. Your comments mean a lot to me. “Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.”

  • Anonymous

    Thank you. I appreciate your comment.

  • Anonymous

    Nor would Jefferson have given you the time of day. He did not suffer fools lightly. He was a private man, not given to public oratory, studious, a man of letters and collector of books.

    Your lies have been debunked, fool. You have been proved WRONG. Take your exit like a man and bow out of the discussion. You are the bully who assumes that everything, every comment is a personal assault. It isn’t. You fail to see your own hypocrisy while screaming at the wind that you are the victim, when in actuality, you are the PERPETRATOR of the sleazy personal and hypocritical attacks…like this one in your paragraph: “If anyone is being a “bully” here, it’s you and your sleazy personal attacks on me.” You are WRONG, as usual. Find another topic to abuse.

  • Anonymous

    You missed the point. What is wrong in America is the current administration in the White House. That will change in November. The people of this country have realized that the Hope and Change we were promised in 2008 has turned into Hopeless and Change in the wrong direction.

    You are still having comprehension problems when determining the “issue” in a comment and the “intent” of the writer.

    Your biased assimilation is showing again.

  • OscarK44

    Here is a story for you. In this time and place we are facing an opponent that will say and do anything to win. He will take our hard earned money and give it to those who have not earned or deserve it. He will limit our freedoms in the name of fairness. He will push the nanny state to the limit, hoping that the more that look to the government for their personal security, as in housing, food, healthcare will support him in stripping liberty and justice from the land. The only weapon we have is TRUTH, it is a powerful weapon and must be used often, it can not be left in the holster. With every patriot armed with it and using it at every opportunity we have a chance to win. As another black man said “The truth will set you free”.

  • Anonymous

    Your blatant ignorance is annoying. 
    You are, as usual, WRONG!
    First of all:In 2002, the Communist Party USA claimed 20,000 registered members and groups in 28 of the 50 US states. [wikipedia]
    Rep. Allen West says ’78 to 81′ House Democrats are communists [http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-04-11/news/31326871_1_allen-west-communist-party-usa-joe-mccarthy]

    Communist Party USA: Chairperson Sam WebbFounded September 1, 1919 (September 1, 1919)Headquarters 235 W. 23rd StreetNew York 10011Youth wing Young Communist League USAMembership 15,000Ideology Communism, Marxism-LeninismPolitical position Far-left

    THAT’S MORE THAN YOUR “all twelve or so communists left in America” as you stated above.
    As for your statement: “Liberals, by definition, support capitalism.” Where is your attribution of this? Or is this your opinion? Are you referring to Liberalism? or just liberal thinking people in general? Some clarification of such a broad and erroneous statement is necessary for your specific comment here.
    It would behoove you to RESEARCH your comments for FACTS and ACCURACY before posting your intentional and deliberate errors,  which are LIES by definition.
    Looks like YOU are the BOOGEYMAN, (note spelling!) Vic, that Beck warned us about.

  • Anonymous

    Because “progressive” was a term to describe Woodrow Wilson’s (1913 – 1921) and FDR’s (1933 – 1945) administrations and policies. When you consider that they were Presidents in the early to mid 20th century, it does seem to be a backward move in thinking and policy in overlooking the progress made in the US since World War II, which ended that socialist era of our American history…until now.

  • mj_schutz

    Glenn and all
    Thanks so much for this bit of history. I remember from reading that the vote was close but not that it was one vote away. Remarkable men (and I imagine women) that put this country together piece by piece.
    I am up for the fight to remind people that they have to know this information before they vote this November. We have to take back this country even if it is piece by piece until we get it right!
    Thank you again for reminding me!
    mj from Wyoming  **==

  • Anonymous

    Do you have proof of your lies here?

    It didn’t take long to refute your errors and fallacious satements.

    Jefferson has often been seen as a major American icon of liberty, democracy and republicanism.[237] Many have hailed him as one of the most articulate spokesmen of the American Revolution, and as a renaissance man who promoted science and scholarship. Though Jefferson has been criticized for owning slaves, scholarly surveys continue to rate him among the top ten presidents.[238] [239] Abraham Lincoln called Jefferson “the most distinguished politician in our history,”[240] citing him when articulating his own philosophy of liberty and equality in the battle against slavery[241][242] and using the natural rights precepts of the Declaration of Independence as his guide to a better Union.[243] Addressing Nobel laureates, John F. Kennedy remarked, “I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.”[244] Recent historians, including his biographer Dumas Malone of the mid-twentieth century and the historian Ron Chernow, have seen a more mixed picture. They have noted his views on race and slavery, his controversial tenure as governor of Virginia, his disloyalty under Washington and Adams, his sometimes extreme political writings, his advocacy of nullification and secession, his personal spending excesses, and his troubled second term as president.[245]. The Library of Congress notes that, concerned with his historical reputation, Jefferson “reasserted his moral opposition to slavery” toward the end of his life. [246] The epitaph he wrote presumably names the three accomplishments for which he most wanted to be remembered: writing the Declaration of Independence, writing the Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom, and fathering the University of Virginia.
    Historians such as Richard Drinnon and David Stannard noted the harsh treatment of Native Americans under Jefferson.[247][248] Some biographers and historians of the era, such as Robert McColley, David Brion Davis and Paul Finkelman, have been more concerned about the contrast between Jefferson’s statements about the equality of men and his lack of action to end or ameliorate slavery in his later years.[249][250] John Chester Miller notes Jefferson’s reputation is based on three landmark events, the Declaration of Independence, The Louisiana Purchase and the abolition of the slave trade. [251] Clarence E. Walker said that Jefferson rationalized being a slave owner and defended slavery since he believed the inferiority of Africans were “fixed in nature” and they needed supervision.[252] Jefferson’s legacy as a champion of Enlightenment ideals has been challenged by various modern historians, who find his continued ownership of hundreds of slaves at Monticello to be in conflict with his stated views on freedom and the equality of men.[252] Cogliano says, “No single issue has contributed as much to the decline of Jefferson’s reputation since World War II as the slavery question”, but also maintains Jefferson always knew that slavery was wrong and opposed it because of its moral impact on both slave and master.[253]
    Joseph Ellis notes Jefferson’s denunciation of slavery, his outlawing of the slave trade and slavery in the Western territories, and a proposal for a fixed date for gradual emancipation, that would have brought an end to slavery in the United States had it been adopted, and that Jefferson’s ideas to end slavery were largely opposed by the existing political forces of the time. [254] The historian Gordon S. Wood has noted that during the progressive era of the late 19th and early 20th century, when scholars saw revolutionary America as a struggle between “haves” and “have nots,” Jefferson’s reputation reached new heights as his presidency was seen as the final defeat of the moneyed classes. Wood argues that this predominated until the 1940s, when the progressive era view fell from favor, and Jefferson’s reputation declined from its prior heights. As modern historians also see slavery as a greater evil than the mercantilism that Jefferson’s adversaries championed, Wood argues, Jefferson’s legacy in recent decades has come under further scrutiny and criticism [255]. Wood maintains that Jefferson, along with Washington, was one of “the greatest and most heroic figures in American History”.[256[Wikipedia]

    Jefferson’s reputation and legacy has varied over time depending on the time period, as noted above, and popular thinking of those specific periods. I doubt Jefferson’s policies and philosophies are readily embraced now due to his failure to abolish slavery during his lifetime ut especially during his tenure as President. The racial tensions fostered by the current administration would exclude Jefferson’s radical Enlightenment from popular thinking during these socially divisive times.

    Your broad and sweeping generalizations show your ignorance of history and your aversion to factual research.

    Massive failure on your part to impart wisdom and facts to the current discussion.

    You lose…AGAIN.

  • Anonymous

    Well said. Thank you for your contribution.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rockafexer Hal Fexer

    It was only Progressive to the pont of the Creation of the “Constitution”I agree with you to just beyond the point of the Declaration…but in order to protect our “Republic”for which the “Constitution”stands. Progressivism ends upon its signing and becoming the “Supreme Law of the Land”.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent response.

    “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” ~~Edmund Burke

  • http://www.facebook.com/rockafexer Hal Fexer

    It was only Progressive to the pont of the Creation of the “Constitution”I agree with you to just beyond the point of the Declaration…but in order to protect our “Republic”for which the “Constitution”stands. Progressivism ends upon its signing and becoming the “Supreme Law of the Land”.After which ,perhaps comes the definition of “Libertarianism”…(perhaps).

  • Anonymous

    Your comment is not relevant to the topic. Beck is discussing the beginning of the Declaration of Independence, what led up to the signing and why it is relevant to know this important event in our country’s history.

    Be that as it may, I’m surprised that you haven’t spoken up about the power and influence of Unions in the US as part of your continual diatribe about Corporations. Since you have brought this topic here without cause, it would be to your advantage to present a cogent, though irrelevant, argument one way or another. Instead you inject disjointed statements that may be of personal interest to you without connecting them to the topic at hand.

    Again, your broad and sweeping generalizations do not lend to the discussion of Corporations, their power, influence, rights, privileges and regulations. Nor do your opinions clearly define the argument for or against the idea of “corporate personhood”. How does the federal government as a corporation figure in your comments and opinions?  

    Your many contradictory comments give the impression that you are opposed to any topic of discussion that Beck presents by virtue of the fact that Beck takes a stand whether pro or con. This makes you an oppositional personality offering no constructive contributions to the discussions at hand.

    Perhaps another site will better serve your agenda. I am not the only one here offended by your rude intrusions.

  • greywolfrs

    And you still fail to mention the “rights” of the unions. You are a hypocrite of the highest order, Vicki.

  • Anonymous

     Nice attempt at rewriting history to redefine “progressive ideas”. Progressive is nothing more than the most recent attempt to relabel,repackage and sell the old ideas of Marxism, communism, socialism, and liberalism. There is NOTHING forward thinking about Progressive ideas. Jefferson and those in his day actually were forward thinking and believed in limited government and individual rights and understood the principle that as the size and scope of government increases the rights of the individuals decrease. Progressive thought is just the opposite. Obamacare is the most recent example. While Romney actually provided healthcare to those who didn’t have it, Obamacare creates a new federal bureaucracy to micromanage the healthcare of those who already have it. You can’t claim Jefferson as a progressive, he would have been on the side of those who are trying to repeal Obamacare and limit the size of the federal government. You progressives have destroyed what Jefferson and others created, attempting to make America resemble what we revolted against. You do this in spite of the fact that the European progressive model is failing right in front of your eyes. I prefer a future that resembles Americas successful past to a future that resembles the present failure in Europe.

  • CaptainAmerica

    You sir are quite simply full of crap.
    It’s always a matter of honesty and honor, and that is the part you always try to gloss over as if it is some antiquarian notion. Sorry, nice try, but that horse manure doesn’t fly here.

    Still you manage to inject your Beck vendetta here, so enjoy that while you last.

  • greywolfrs

    You are a liar and do not know the first thing about which you speak. Since the Federal Reserve Act, the bankers are the ones in control, not corporations. Don’t let that fact get in your way, stupid little kid.

  • greywolfrs

    Another outright lie. The American Communist Party exists within the Democrap party. You are just too dumb to see it.

  • greywolfrs

    You can not point out facts to Vicki. He is too dumb and indoctrinated by the left.

  • greywolfrs

    Another lie, the “progressive” of that time was Hamilton, you ignorant wretch.

  • greywolfrs

    That’s actually not true. There were two factions after the signing of the Constitution. The Federalists, headed by Hamilton (they seemed to be the modern day Democraps) and the anti-Federalists, headed by Jefferson and a couple others, they would probably be considered the Libertarians of today.

  • greywolfrs

    Another fact, FDR changed from “progressive” to “liberal,” because too many people were catching on…

  • CaptainAmerica

    He is fairly accomplished with the cut/paste technique. Unfortunately he cuts only the parts of things that agree with his inaccurate views of the world and pastes them where people who know better see them.

    He’s so inane, I’ll bet he thinks the song is about him…

  • greywolfrs

    I thought it was just sticky chin by another name.

  • CaptainAmerica

    I agree with you, he is oppositional to Beck in every aspect, and he makes it very apparent with each post.

  • greywolfrs

    Another outright lie. The Founding Fathers were looking back, just read the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Take the First Amendment, particularly the freedom of religion. Where do you think they got that from? Maybe Henry the 8th? Maybe Bloody Mary? Maybe the Crusades? They were ALL looking back to ensure that they did NOT repeat the mistakes of the past. Continue to a complete moron though, that seems to be working well for you.

  • CaptainAmerica

    He’s definitely a loser. Loser-loser-loser!

  • greywolfrs

    On another note, my wife was walking by and saw your avatar and thought it was a penis with Mr. Potato Head glasses and mustache. I told her that would suit you perfectly.

  • greywolfrs

    That is sticky chin by another name.

  • CaptainAmerica

    You laid it out in black and white for him. If he doesn’t understand by now he is in the wrong, then there is no hope of him ever discovering the truth. He always thinks he can gain sympathy points from people here even when his lies are obvious and pathetic attempts at steering the conversation his way, the way of a lunatic.

    He’s a galaxy class moron, and that is all there is to it.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Yup, no doubt about it.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Brother you got that right! Education has been exchanged for indoctrination over the last thirty years. My kids are probably the last generation that learned the truth, and that is only because they live in the southwest. The generations since then are mostly ignorant because they only got the “official” party line disguised as curriculum. It’s now up to us to take care of business and make sure the liberal/progressive mind set is no longer taught in the public schools – it’s going to take action on the local level on up the ladder to get this nation back on the right track again. We all have to take voting seriously and that is from the town level up to the house at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C.

  • Anonymous

    But the other people here are not. By my pointing out the facts and refuting his lies, he becomes inconsequential and unimportant. No one will give him the attention he seeks.

    Notice that when the facts are presented, he skulks away to hide in other forums where he can get by with his lying socialist rants.

  • CaptainAmerica

    You are still an idiot. If you mean to be replying to someone, then you need to hit the underlined word Reply in the lower left corner of the post you are replying to, not where it says “Type your comment here”. 

    How many years have you been doing this, and not ever getting it correct? 

    Regarding your comment itself, Congress was not constantly in session like it is now. If you knew anything about history you’d have known that. Perhaps you should go visit Independence Hall and find out that your idiot ideas about Jefferson and the rest of the founders are completely baseless. It doesn’t matter if he wrote or said Congress was part time or not – that is history, as it occurred, like it or not.

    Your views are obviously tainted by the stench of the progressive lunacy you subscribe to. It’s time a grown man like you started to realize that the world works much differently than the way you imagine it to.

    You are an idiot, case closed.

  • Anonymous

    Progressive (in the political sense) is another word for social democracy, and we ALL know what that means.

  • Anonymous

    Where is the “record” that is not a matter of lying or honesty? Please quote your source for that RECORD.

    Jefferson was most concerned with the limited intrusion of government on the individual, so a part time Congress was well-within his scope and thinking.

    “he certainly could not have foreseen that America would become a world “empire”?  Really? Is that why he sent Lewis and Clark on their expedition to explore the Continent? Is that why he engineered the Lousianna Purchase? I’m sure Jefferson was a man of global experience, else he wouldn’t have traveled to France  as a Foreign Minister, or Great Britain or engage the US in the 1st Barbary War (which was against piracy on the North African Coast).

    I’m sure the blowhard here is you as your idiotic attempt to converse on an intellectual and knowledgeable basis would not have caused you to fall flat on your ass while making assinine comments. 

     

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000569114826 Wm Jeffrey Schnarel

    Jefferson was progressive in the true sense of the word: progress toward a goal or vision, moving society forward to a utopia where there are no classes (upper, lower, or otherwise), and all men are their own masters; inheriting all the rights and responsibilities thereof - and he included in his discourse the ideals and ideas upon which that vision was founded as well as the path to that goal.

    The current usurpation of the term “Progressive” by radical leftists also refers to progress toward a vision of society, but that vision is not a utpopia where all men are free, it is a distopia where there are two classes: ruler and ruled; where men are not allowed to think freely and make their own decisions because they may make “incorrect” ones; where the ruled are made slaves to each other under the guise of “Social Justice” and, in so doing, are made slaves of the rulling class. Futhermore, the ruling class’ sole intent is NOT to aid and abet mankind but to plunder for themselves and their children in perpetuity the treaures of this world.

  • Anonymous

    Notice how he ‘doubts’ that Jefferson said that Congress should be part time? Proof he doesn’t do research. Jefferson was all about limited government and Congress only in session for limited amount of time. In his day there was no high speed rail or air travel. Congress HAD to be part time.

    He doesn’t ‘get’ it!

  • Anonymous

    No. The song was about Warren Beatty! LOL

  • Anonymous

    …defying rational thought and reason in the process!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    …wrote the reactionary.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Unions are corporations too. They were implied in my remarks, so I await an apology for your false accusation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Because you’re too stupid to see the relevance of corporate power and constitutional rights, does not mean it’s not relevant. 

    You have gall to mention my supposed “rude intrusions” here since you’re one in a clique who wages a nasty, deceitful flame war against me. YOU ARE ALL ABOUT RUDE INTRUSIONS!You really are clueless about your hypocrisies, aren’t you?

    God, you’re pathetic and pathologically sleazy and nasty.

    You also practice double standards since Beck is the master of contradicting himself.

  • Anonymous

    Wrote the idiot who edits his remarks because he can’t say it right and factual the first time. You’re a pathetic reactionary hypocrite. 

  • Anonymous

    What’s the false accusation? You are a hypocrite. And that isn’t implied. That’s a factual and accurate statement.

  • Anonymous

    And so the Idiot writes in his addendum to his original comment….

    “And now the idiotic, sleazy and personal attacks will follow. “penis,” “hypocrite” (when unions are also corporations and implied in my comments), “not relevant,” which is just stupid since corporations are taking over and they used to be tamed (what Beck doesn’t want reactionaries to know), “rude intrusion,” and “defying rational thought and reason.”
    If you want to restore a government of the people, by the people and for the people, we need to put the corporations back into the place where they belong, serving the people and not the other way around.

    THERE WAS NO IMPLIED MENTION OF UNIONS IN YOUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT, YOU MORON.

    Your stupid rant on corporations is not relevant to the article. But that won’t stop you from proving that you are delusional.

    YOU HAVE BEEN PROVED AS AN IGNORANT LIAR.

    PERIOD.

    END OF STORY.

    Your excuses and lies won’t work to cover up your blatant ignorance and hypocrisy.

    You are a joke, Sanduskyman.

  • Anonymous

    Guess I pointed out your errors that you cannot refute so you attack me. As you have cried so many times: You attacking the messenger! because you can’t deny the message. YOU are the clueless one regarding hypocrises as I have just pointed out. Everyone can see that, why can’t you?

    What does my comment have to do with double standards and Beck when clearly you are the one who is contradicting himself and profoundly ignorant.

    Look who is pathologically lying and delusional NOW?

    Truth hurts, doesn’t Vicky?

  • CaptainAmerica

    That should be his tag line.

  • CaptainAmerica

    But HE thinks everything is about him…

  • CaptainAmerica

    The degree of his stupidity and false assumptions lends one to believe that he is lying about his education too.

    What accredited school would want to recognize this idiot?

  • CaptainAmerica

    …Wrote the pinhead idiot liberal twit.

  • landofaahs

    Blah blah blah…. Think of this.  A man born in 1880 has a son that still lives….He is my uncle

  • Anonymous

    DeVry?
    There is nothing in his manner nor his writing style that indicates he has more than a high school diploma or GED, if that!

    You know what happened to the boy who called “Wolf”???

  • CaptainAmerica

    The wolf ate him if I recall correctly…

  • Anonymous

    What is that you say about hoisted on his own petard?

    lol

  • Lioness

    Lions, tigers, and bears O my!

  • Anonymous

    Oh how we ROARRRR!;D

  • Anonymous

    Amazing… People are so lost today… no hope for any thought of how they got here.. we deserve what we get… wake up

  • greywolfrs

    Nothing was implied, you are full of shit.

  • greywolfrs

    yes, I am, thank you. As conservative as they come. Idiots like you call yourself a progressive, but have no clue what you are trying to “progress” to…

  • CaptainAmerica

    That is absolutely correct! He is the un-luckiest of bomb throwers – every time he tries it, it blows up in his face… maybe that explains the look on his mug???

  • Anonymous

    He has that constipated-about-to-explode look on his face in most of the pictures he’s posted of himself!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    If you think Glenn Beck tells the truth, you have not done much fact-checking. Beck synthesizes lies, facts and nonsense to create an overall false narrative.

    You want the truth?  You’ll have to go somewhere else. If you doubt I’m wrong about Mr. Beck being a liar, check out this CONSERVATIVE story about Beck, and pay close attn. to p. 4.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/18/thedc-exclusive-conservatives-hit-beck-for-taking-content-without-attribution/ 

    Beck LIED about writing “The truth has no agenda.” He’s lied about much more, but mostly his claims seem to come from the ignorance of pretending to be a “pundit” when he’s in fact a mere, brilliant propagandist. That’s a fact reactionaries don’t want you to know.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Progressives want equal rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for ALL, not just the few who can afford this. ALL MEN WERE CREATED EQUAL! (Jefferson was progressive for his time.)

    Beck’s anti-progressive propaganda serves the 1% and their corporations. Beck has millions working to elect a plutocrat and undermine their (your) own self-interests.

  • Anonymous

    Why can’t you address YOUR lies, manufactured facts and nonsense that you post?
    You want the truth? YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH. That’s why you RUN from everyone who disputes your sordid and silly proclamations and theories.
    Deflecting with an off-topic rant against Beck when you’ve been confronted with YOUR lies and delusions. That’s your MO. Your other MO is running when you’ve been bested and exposed as the liar and hypocrite that you are.
    The REACTIONARY here is you! Just look at the mess you’ve posted/projected here while throwing the temper tantrum of a two-year-old.
    You are so pathetic, Sanduskyman.

  • greywolfrs

    Just because you keep spouting this B S, does not make it true. Jefferson was not a “progressive” for his time. Hamilton was the “progressive,” you ignorant wretch.

    http://rightwingart.com/8219c013-1a7a-4b22-888f-e36715ac54a2/artupload.aspx

  • greywolfrs
  • Anonymous

    Another pack of lies and pink-o propaganda. It was spelled out to you below what Jefferson stood for and that he WAS NOT PROGRESSIVE as you suggest. You want to invent history like your Black Jesus in the White House. Go ahead. No one believes a word you say anyway. Nor do they believe Barry the Fraud. 

    Your vicious lies and smears are indicative of your HYPOCRISY and lunacy. You’ve had all weekend to do research. Instead you just make up crap to smear whoever is on your hit list–most often Beck!

    You are posting in your own delusional self interest. Nothing you write is ever informative, accurate, or based on fact. Take your lies, propaganda and fallacious opinions and post somewhere else.

    You’re a JOKE.

  • greywolfrs

    I am glad you liked the link…

  • greywolfrs

    A bad joke, at that.

  • Anonymous

    He’s afraid to respond to any comments that have refuted his stupid rants. Now he’s hiding out in a year-old forum: http://www.glennbeck.com/content/blog/stu/birth-certificate-media-wont-show-this-one/

    That’s the only way he can spew venom and think he can get away with it. Such a COWARD! Bet he doesn’t post that on his URinaL blog.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    …wrote the sleazy, malicious and vicious character assassin.

    You’ve been exposed as the ignorant and gullible moron that you are. You lie, you name-call, you make up sleazy and vicious smears about me and you always ignore facts that you’re too damn reactionary, ignorant and self-righteous to wrap your head around to grasp.

    Fact is, Jefferson wanted equality, life, liberty and pursuit of happiness for ALL Americans, not just the ones with wealth.

  • Anonymous

    That must be the Fortune 500 company VT works for–McDonalds!

    ROTFLSHIPMP!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    “Black Jesus in the White House. ”

    No one will EVER consider you sane in ANY way.

    My god, you’re a reactionary MORON!

  • Anonymous

    That is YOUR hypocrisy. Why don’t you respond to my comments that refuted your bias assimliation of Jefferson’s philosophy and purpose?

    Yet you dare to say I’m exposed? Pa-leeze. Do you read the crap you write? Do you even understand what you write?

    Why do you hide out in year-old forums spreading your lies and propaganda?

    You dare to call be ignorant and a gullible moron when you can’t put two sentences together of your own thoughts without the use of profanity, ad hominems, hypocrisy and lies? The statements you post that are without the garbage are cut & pasted from the works of others WITHOUT ATTRIBUTION.

    You wouldn’t know facts if they fell off the shelf and hit you on your lame-brained head.

    You are the REACTIONARY Joke of the Internet.

  • Anonymous

    Look at the POThead calling the Kettle BLACK!!!

    I’ve told you before to call on Someone you know. God is not that Someone. There’s another example of your hypocrisy, you self-proclaimed Deist.

    Just look at the crap you write and you want people to think YOU are SANE? “Black Jesus in the White House” is not original, you dolt. Guess you should expand your reading material to include ideas, commentary and viewpoints. It’s called RESEARCH…as opposed to making up things like you always do.

    You are such a REACTIONARY Joke, Sanduskyman.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Oh, I have your vicious and malicious character assassination posted on The Review. I want people to understand Beck’s followers, and you’re one of the sleaziest, nastiest most vicious and malicious reactionary morons of the Fascist Friends clique.

    Smile, you’re on Jing camera.

  • Anonymous

    As IF anyone reads that stupid URinaL of a bugsite you call “The Review.”  THAT is why you are a joke. You don’t realize that posting the crap you post says more about your character than anything anyone could say to you. What you call character assassination is what everyone else read as exposing you as a liar, a plagiarist, and an idiot in your pathetic attempt at intelligent commentary about Thomas Jefferson. 

    Just when it looks like you can’t possibly post any more ad hominem attacks and name-calling, you do! Why can’t you comment like normal people do, using factual research?  

    That you are so obsessed to incite posters to comment against you, jing their comments with edits that you insert, not include THE PROFANITY YOU WRITE,  and post it in a collection of more of the same on your pathetic little blog, then shamelessly plug and brag about your slanderous URinaL, shows just how much of a bottom-feeder you are.

    You are a tool, just not the sharpest one in the shed.

    You seriously need psychiatric supervision and medication. Or is this what they give you to do at the asylum to keep you off the streets and out of trouble?

    You are such a Crybaby, Sanduskyman.

  • Guest

    Jing? Are you still going on about that? You couldn’t figure out how to use the on-board feature that every PC for the last 20 years has built in for screen shots? 

    And we are supposed to think you are somehow smarter than what, say, maybe a rock?

  • Anonymous

    Have you ever been in a Black church?

  • Guest

    It is apparent you haven’t read Lakoff’s book.

  • Anonymous

    ROTFL

    No, he hasn’t. The only church he’s been to is the one in Ithaca, where he “Occupied” the parking lot. The police moved them off the corner for interrupting the flow of traffic.

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone know what the “Fascist Friends” group is?

    Is it a new heavy metal band or is it alternative rock?

    I know it’s not a Quaker Meeting.

    I’ve never heard of it before.

  • Guest

    It’s even more apparent you haven’t read Lakoff.

  • Anonymous

    It’s really easy to see where you lie.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting considering how just about EVERYTHING Glenn Beck has EVER stated has PROVEN to actually be true using ACTUAL facts.  Again, you prove you lack facts, Victor.  Good job there.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GDOU6BBHOP6O27FRAGUJATPLFM Laura

    What is up with that avatar?

  • Anonymous

     Don’t worry your King or God will be re-elected…Then he will be able to build a liberal utopia of stoners,fags,and kiddie rapers.

  • Sandie

    You have a twisted idea about looking forward and looking back. Jefferson’s ideas YOU may think were progressive for the day, but in reality they are not. He was somewhat of a realist, not a dreamer.

    From the writings of the day, Congress was not perceived to be a full time paying job. If you think it wqas you need your head examined. Where ever do you get these crazy ideas????

  • Sandie

    LMAO do you really think they would comment in a poll and say they are communists, marxist, etrc? You are too gullible and stupid.

  • Sandie

    BS – you spout about how they were so progressive – show how they were – uh-oh – yopu can’t, because what they were all about is the common sense visions of what turns out to be ….. wait for it …… TEA PARTY & Republicans !

  • Sandie

    The topic is “Amazing history progressives don’t want you to know” Not Victor Tiffany’s psycho rants of his delusional perceptions of what he thinks America is supposed to be.

    As for the rest of your contentions – prove it. You can’t do it by the assumption that just because it wasn’t mentioned specifically that it was not to be. Hoe long is the document?

  • Sandie

    Well said.

  • Sandie

    Gawd when will this loon stop his trolling and spouting nonsense? pathetic that he thinks he is relevant.

  • Sandie

    Excellent job. That should shut up that dumbass for a while …. or let’s see just how long his memory is. Any bets how long it will be before he spouts more inanities and gets his ass handed to him?

  • Sandie

    Unions are not corporations, except for some who file for that classification. Once again you ASSume and end up with egg on your face..

  • Sandie

    It sure is. The proof is tomes.

  • Sandie

    Progressives want equal outcomes – guarantees where life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are concerned. It is there, one only needs to pursue it. It is handed to no one.

  • Sandie

    Equality, life, liberty and pursuit of happiness are there for all, they just have to pursue them. They can’t expect it to be made for them and handed to them. You really are ignorant when it come to what this country is about and what the intentions of the founders were, especially where life, liberty and pursuit of happiness are concerned. Basck to school for you, just make sure it isn’t a left wing revisionist school.

  • Sandie

    Smile, sdo are you!…. shall we run the piece about your edit job and your display if deceit and dishonesty? shall we? Everyone knows your trashsite is a Beck obsession and place where you smear and slander others who reploied to your vile attacks.

  • Anonymous

    He makes them up and blames someone else when they are proved faulty. Sound like anyone else we know?

  • Anonymous

    He’s the most gullible moron here, but accuses others of being “gullible morons.” Does it all the time! And he wants a list of his hypocrisies? There ya go!

  • Anonymous

    He has a comprehension problem!

  • Anonymous

    He thinks he “implied” what he does not prove.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    He’s going for quantity, not quality, in his troll-rants.

  • Anonymous

    He spent yesterday posting everywhere but to the articulate comments where I corrected his errors, exposed his lies and ignorance. He was cherry-picking the less extensive comments I made and responded with his usual crybaby victim wail and accusations of character assassinations! He’s such a loser.

  • Anonymous

    But Sandie…it’s…it’s…it’s IMPLIED! He implied it, so it must be true!!! LMAO

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    “Basck (sic) to school for you” she wrote without a hint of irony.

    To have a Beckerhead call me ignorant is the biggest irony of all. You are not informed enough to know that he misinforms you, so you are in no epistemic place to point your finger about the intentions of the founders.

    If anyone is revising history for political ends, it’s Mr. Beck and his buddy, the other liar David Barton. You’d know that if you weren’t brainwashed by Beck’s CONvincing propaganda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    How many times have you criticized me for off topic comments?

    Freaking hypocrite!

  • Anonymous

    A nanny state and gimme constituents cannot make guarantees of fairness and equality by circumventing the Constitution.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    1) Yes, you’ve been exposed, and I Jing copied many more of your sleazy nastiness for the judge to look at.

    2)  You mean “biased assimilation,” not bias assimilation. And you think you’re educated? When you can demonstrate that you have a clue about Jefferson’s philosophy and purpose  I’ll let you know.

    3) I don’t lie, and what I’m doing is criticism, not propaganda. It’s Beck who is the highly paid, CONvincing propagandist, and if you didn’t have your head up your ass, you’d know this. If you don’t know this, it’s because of your biased assimilation of what comes out of his mouth and ignorance about what propaganda is.

    4)  You accusing me of “ad hominems” and you been calling me a child molester. THAT, you dumb ass, is hypocrisy.  God, you’re one dumb SOB.

    5)  What’s been C & P without attribution? And why, in all of your comments on The Daily Caller, did you not write one word of criticism about Mr. Beck for doing that?  (It’s called having double standards.)

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/18/thedc-exclusive-conservatives-hit-beck-for-taking-content-without-attribution/ 

    6) Claiming that I have a lame-brained head in the same comment that you accuse me of “ad hominen” is about as dumb as hypocrisy can be. One can only assume that you suffer from severe rectal-cranial inversion or you’re just ethically retarded.

    7) Your ignorance of political ideology is showing. Reactionaries want to push policy backward, the way Beck adores the Gilded Age of robber barons. THAT is reactionary. That make Beck EXACTLY what you accuse me of: the REACTIONARY Joke of the Internet.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t the US Dept of Ed already revising and rewriting history? Romney needs to do away with that Gov’t oxymoron, too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    THAT is not true, and it exposed you as being ignorant of what progressives stand for. You need to read rather than listening to Beck’s deceitful propaganda. You come across as enormously stupid spouting the nonsense you spout.

    THAT is why Beckerheads are the laughing stock of informed Americans. You repeat his dumb-ass ideas and think that you’re “informed.” Nothing is further from the truth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Thanks for demonstrating severe hatred and ignorance. Time for you to sign up for Beck’s rally and give him the rest of your money. You’re ripe for the picking.

  • Anonymous

    “There was a troll who had a blog and JING-O was his name, oh. J-I-N-G-O, J-I-N-G-O, J-I-N-G-O and JINGO was his name, oh!”

  • Anonymous

    What judge? The imaginary judge at your bug..er..blogsite? Still trying to threaten me with a lawsuit? How stupid is that? Apparently you haven’t talked to law enforcement or an attorney since you continue to bring it up. They would have laughed you out of their offices. You want to sue a bear named MommaGrizzley for what? Calling you an idiot? LOL

    I KNOW, I’m educated. I don’t know that you are. It sure doesn’t appear that you are from the style and subject matter of your comments

    Earth to Vicky. I’ve already informed YOU and everyone who’s read my comments about Jefferson’s philosophy and purpose. You are the one who is lying and delusional. That you have no comprehension and understanding is YOUR PROBLEM.

    Criticism is objective. You are NOT objective. And your lies have been proved on dozens of occasions and dozens of sites. Reason and logic escape you. You proved that in your comment above.

    This is about Jefferson. Not you. Not Beck. But as usual, you make it about Beck and about your obsession with Beck. Your criticisms and attacks on Beck are your mission and obsession, not mine.

    My not responding on daily caller with a criticism of Beck is NOT a double standard. Double Standard (noun): “any code or set of principles containing different provisions for one group of people than for another, especially an unwritten code of sexual behavior permitting men more freedom than women.” The double standard is you expecting me to abide by the delusional rules that you have set when you don’t follow them yourself.

    Again, you do not know God. That you, a self-proclaimed Deist, continue to use His name in vain, is proof of you hypocrisy.

    I did not and have not called you a child molester. That is YOUR ASSumption. You read into comments from your narrow-minded perspective what you choose, cherry-picking your way through what you read, selecting the opinions of others as facts and presenting them as yours.

    Say what you want, I’ve proved your lies and your hypocrisies. I’ve exposed your double standards, biased assimilations, errors, ignorance and lack of proof and attribution for your comments. You deceitfully and purposefully edit your comments to manipulate and slander people who comment in opposition to your nonsense. You continue to deny, deflect and avoid those facts by your continued assaults and ad hominem attacks.

    Face it, VT, you are through here. Your reputation is ruined. Your ignorance is obvious. You are not a critic. You are a coward and a pathological liar. You have no character, no virtue, no ethics, no morality. THAT makes you the Reactionary Joke of the Internet, Sanduskyman.

  • Anonymous

    That you invent your ‘facts’, pretend to know what is obvious that you don’t know, and continue to present what you don’t know as fact is proof that you are out of touch with reality. Your uninformed comments and continual posting of nonsense, ignorant and idiotic ideas indicates that you are delusional. It would be in your own best interest to cease and desist in your insistance of proving your ignorance. No one believes a word you write. That you believe your own lies is further indication of your psychosis.

    “You repeat [YOUR] dumb-ass ideas and think that you’re “informed.” Nothing is further from the truth.”

    Your own words condemn you, Vicky. When are you going to grow up, wake up and realize you are your own worst enemy? You are a monster of your own making.

    And that’s the TRUTH! Sanduskyman.

  • Anonymous

    Ad hominem attacks! Vicky the Hypocrite. You’re ripe, not for picking, but for flushing. How much money have you thrown away subscribing to Beck’s newsletters, GBTV, book purchases? Don’t tell me you don’t because that would mean you make up your allegations…that you lie because you don’t do research!

    Keep standing in that glass house of yours and throwing stones, Sanduskyman.

  • Anonymous

    “Yes, you’ve been exposed, and I Jing copied many more of your sleazy nastiness for the judge to look at.” What does this say about you and your obsession?

    What is ironic is that you call people Beckerhead, when you are the one whose head is so full of Beck that you can’t see beyond your own delusional pre-occupation with a man you don’t even know, have never met and will never meet.

    That you have brainwashed yourself with your own propaganda is YOUR problem, Sanduskyman.

  • Anonymous

    Vic’s word for the day:

    ep·i·ste·mic [ep-uh-stee-mik, -stem-ik] adjective    /ˌɛpəˈstimɪk, -ˈstɛmɪk/ Show Spelled
    of or pertaining to knowledge or the conditions for acquiring it. “Much evidence, however, shows that reasoning often leads to epistemic distortions and poor decisions.”
    He uses the word, but is completely ignorant of the its application to his own ignorant condition. He doesn’t have a clue…no knowledge of any consequence or importance, and from all appearances never availed himself to conditions for acquiring it. 

    In Vic’s case, this is true: “Much evidence, however, shows that [his] reasoning often leads to epistemic distortions and poor decisions.”

  • Anonymous

    Dumbass! You referred to Lakoff’s book in a previous post. Of course, you more than likely edited that comment, as you usually do, and it no longer exists. Do you have short term memory loss or are you just plain stupid?

  • Anonymous

    Acknowledging evil for what it is love and concern for all people. So confused lost human beings can understand that it is time to quit stealing,killing children,promoting social justice,or being a progressive. There is one thing positive about progressives though. They can never be true trusting friends to each other because there only after what they can get for themselves. If there was only progressives left on this planet they would all kill each other off then there would be no more human beings to destroy Sacred Mother Earth anymore. Hail to all Immoral actions, Right Vic…

  • w. Parker

    LOLLL…You are too funny, a joke –  a baboon…Victor Tiffany, your name on this site is synonymous with a lost and badly brainwashed communist, freak, a heathen who is on the verge of a total breakdown .  Your whining “you have been calling me a child molester”, bla bla bla..”You accuse me of the REACTIONARY Joke on the Internet”, is really very funny.  “Claiming that i have a lame-brained head” ROFLMAO!!!  You are the JOKE on the internet Victor.  I really rather like you, i always get a good laugh and you are not more than proving to the world, a perfect example of what a true twisted progressive/communist represents.  You are living proof of what happens to someone who listens to too much MSNBC and other liberal media and becomes brainwashed.  You are living proof that society should reinstitute 1950′s policies of institutionalizing severely disturbed people rather than allowing them or trusting them to remain free to take their medication on a out-patient basis…

  • CaptainAmerica

    I have a feeling he is a lost soul. He won’t stop until he is forced to, either by disability or law enforcement or by being sued for all his worldly accomplishment and accumulation. His kind never quit until they are taken out of the game. That is why good people must oppose him at every turn; it is not an exercise of futility.

  • CaptainAmerica

    The funny part is, he thinks he looks good!

  • CaptainAmerica

    Amazing how you can always fail to properly reply to your target. And you want people to recognize you as an authority on any subject??? Preposterous! 

    Your comments are the rantings of a fool and idiot.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Amazing how you can always fail to properly reply to your target. And you want people to recognize you as an authority on any subject??? Preposterous! 
    Your comments are the rantings of a fool and idiot.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Amazing how you can always fail to properly reply to your target. And you want people to recognize you as an authority on any subject??? Preposterous! 
    Your comments are the rantings of a fool and idiot.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Amazing how you can always fail to properly reply to your target. And you want people to recognize you as an authority on any subject??? Preposterous! 
    Your comments are the rantings of a fool and idiot.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Amazing how you can always fail to properly reply to your target. And you want people to recognize you as an authority on any subject??? Preposterous! 
    Your comments are the rantings of a fool and idiot.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Amazing how you can always fail to properly reply to your target. And you want people to recognize you as an authority on any subject??? Preposterous! 
    Your comments are the rantings of a fool and idiot.

    Put that in your Journal of an Idiot – you should be proud to display your ineptitude and ignorance since you display it so frequently here.

  • Anonymous

    That’s another problem narcissists have. We can only hope that he keeps gazing at his reflection in that pond of his, falls in and drowns from his own self-adoration.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for demonstrating severe hatred of Beck and anyone who disagrees with your idiotic comments, as well as your ignorance of how to reply directly to an individual. You must really be absolutely mentally deficient not to be able to do such a basic thing on a comment page. 
    Better go to the toilet soon in case you forget how to get there too.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for demonstrating severe hatred of Beck and anyone who disagrees with your idiotic comments, as well as your ignorance of how to reply directly to an individual. You must really be absolutely mentally deficient not to be able to do such a basic thing on a comment page. You consider yourself an informed American? That’s the funniest damned joke I’ve heard all day!!!
    Better go to the toilet soon in case you forget how to get there too.

  • Anonymous

    How do you manage to get through a day as ignorant and insipid as you are?

    Thanks for demonstrating severe hatred of Beck and anyone who disagrees with your idiotic comments, as well as your ignorance of how to reply directly to an individual. You must really be absolutely mentally deficient not to be able to do such a basic thing on a comment page. 
    Better go to the toilet soon in case you forget how to get there too.

  • Anonymous

    How many times have you been off topic – like you are right now…

    Thanks for demonstrating severe hatred of Beck and anyone who disagrees with your idiotic comments, as well as your ignorance of how to reply directly to an individual. You must really be absolutely mentally deficient not to be able to do such a basic thing on a comment page. Better go to the toilet soon in case you forget how to get there too.

  • Anonymous

    You, the king of hypocrisy calling someone for a typo? (who ever it is, since you can’t manage to reply correctly; Why is that, Victor?)

    Thanks for demonstrating severe hatred of Beck and anyone who disagrees with your idiotic comments, as well as your ignorance of how to reply directly to an individual. You must really be absolutely mentally deficient not to be able to do such a basic thing on a comment page. 
    Better go to the toilet soon in case you forget how to get there too.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, I certainly hope you do, because there are a host of people that have a record of everything you have ever posted compiled in a database that is astoundingly large and not very complimentary to you – the irony of which is YOU POSTED IT ALL YOURSELF, LOSER!

    That pathetic review pales in comparison to the volume of crap compiled against you. 

    Thanks for demonstrating severe hatred of Beck and anyone who disagrees with your idiotic comments, as well as your ignorance of how to reply directly to an individual. You must really be absolutely mentally deficient not to be able to do such a basic thing on a comment page. Better go to the toilet soon in case you forget how to get there too.

  • Anonymous

    Who in the hell are you talking to/about? 
    Did you forget how to reply to a person’s comment directly?
    You’d better go to the toilet soon in case you forget how to get there too.

  • Anonymous

    YES, on all counts. He got that way biting the bubbles in the tub…

  • Anonymous

    But he got that Word of the Day book for Christmas…

  • Anonymous

    Pour it over his head some more!

  • Anonymous

    Imagine VT telling Sandie she needs to read!!! He doesn’t and it shows! He’s too stupid to realize that calling his lies “truth” does not make them “truth”. They are still lies, regardless of what he calls them.

  • Anonymous

    The only thing he has exposed is the film in his camera! …and his ugly face… and contemptible behavior… and his criminal record… and his own hypocrisy… and his ignorance… and…. LMAO

  • Anonymous

    LOL he’s always off topic! Always!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Just dropped in from the reality sphere to see what amazing history Glenn Beck has to offer us minions. Unless I am missing his point, I have never seen any elimination of the Rodney story by the progressives who must be lurking under the bushes at Glenn’s studio in Texas these days. To what end and why would anyone seek to eliminate this story from the narrative of the Declaration or the early days? Landed gentry, who walked a fine line between the Loyalists and the revolutionaries, answers the call from Jefferson and casts his new lot as a patriot. And for that he later gets voted out of the Delaware assembly by the Loyalists (I think). And this does not fit in with the progressive agenda exactly how?

     For any school kid in Delaware, I am pretty sure the story of Mr. Rodney is well known. Perhaps Glenn can go visit Rodney Square next time he goes to the small wonder of a state (also the first to ratify the Constitution as I recall). Based on my recollections of trips to Independance Hall during Bush I, Clinton and Bush II administrations,park rangers under all three Presidents described the frantic ride of Mr. Rodney. Based on my son’s trip during the Obama years, I am pretty sure he heard the story as well. Come to think of it, the old PBS show, (PBS by definition has to be progressive, right?) Liberty’s Kids, had an episode which included Rodney’s story.

  • Anonymous

    He’s the king of double standards, too. Throws a hissy-fit like a two-year-old when anyone points out his typos!

  • Sandie

    To him, if he ignores it, it doesn’t exist.

  • Anonymous

    How many people do you know have admitted reading that rag URinaL Review of VT’s? It has no value except to the mad, maniacal moron who writes it. ROTFL

  • Anonymous

    It never fails to make me laugh when he posts his feigned outrage of what he perceives as offensive, yet he posts the most outrageous and profane remarks to and about people he doesn’t know!

  • Anonymous

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    The one with the pictures next to the words that he can color? Hope he got the crayons, too.

  • Anonymous

    Glady.

  • Anonymous

    BAZINGA!!! ROTFLSHIPMP

  • Sandie

    Wow, the “a” and “s” keys are next to each other on the keyboard and my finger struck both. How telling of your lacking that you felt you must point out a typo and make a big deal of it (as if you’ve never done it). What an idiot you are. This gives you 1 negative point – bad since you have no positives yet.

    You, Beckerhead name caller, (gives you another negative point – name calling in lame attempt to invalidate your opponent), are in no position to judge what I am informed about as you have shown your own epistomology to be a farce. In the realm of doxastic logic, you are truly a conceited reasoner. You can leave your obsession, Beck out of it as this has nothing to do with him (third negative point – diversion, strawman). See, you can’t even put the present into perspective, and have shown you have a revisionist view of our founders. “If anyone is revising history for political ends, it’s Mr. Beck and his buddy…”(4th negative point – insisting on deflection, diversion, straw man). “….if you weren’t brainwashed by Beck’s CONvincing propaganda.” (fifth & sixth negative points, again attempting to invalidate opponent by denigrating with sleazy descriptives and diversionary tactic of bringing in a person who is not part of the issue)…. oops let’s not forget – seventh negative for denigrating the diversion or straw man. In the mean time, you have scored no positive points; score of your argument is -7 .

  • Anonymous

    I wonder… had his teachers graded on the same grading scale as you have, would he ever have passed the 5th grade. Assuming he passed the 5th grade, that is.

  • Sandie

    Of course it’s true. Read, and try to comprehend, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights! It guarantees you the right to pursue, not the right of guaranteed outcomes, which is essentially a socialistic (progressive), leftist position.

    You need to develop the ability to look at things objectively and comprehend without using your ever present biased assimilative lens. You also need to drop this Beck thing you have, naming and categorizing people with it, falsely attributing their thoughts to him, and making false statements (your own contrived ideas) about how you think people are informed, what you think they know, all because they don’t agree with you and don’t see through your biased lens.

    We have seen you make the stupidest statements and repeat the dumb-ass ideas the left spoon feeds you tools as well as the idiotic ones you contrive out of miss-perceptions and ignorance. The only laughing stock here is you, Vic, but either you refuse to see it (avoidance complex) or you are otherwise unable to (as a partially autistic does). Either way, you have a mess in your head to deal with (mental issues).

    Incidentally, to show how off the mark and how poor your judgment is, I don’t listen to Beck, I just post on his site as I do many others. The only Beckerhead here is you as that is all you can talk about, and not just when you have been cornered and need a strawman, diversion, or whatever. . . . You come across as enormously stupid spouting the nonsense you spout.

  • Anonymous

    The preservation of our history and culture can not be left to the government for if it is if will become
    a bland politically correct history we see it today as they tell us the Founding Fathers were not religious, and some didn’t really believe in God….. I hope Glenn that one day your company will publish a list of historic documents and make this available to researchers…. keep up the good work..

  • Sandie

    LMAO good one…m you have inspired me … and with a little literary license . . .

    “Second verse much like the first”

    There was a man who had a grudge and SICK-O was his name, oh.
    S-I-C-K-O, S-I-C-K-O, S-I-C-K-O and SICKO was his name, oh!

  • Guest

    It’s even more apparent you haven’t read Lakoff.

  • Guest

    How many typos, errors in grammar, incorrect example of punctuation have you posted in the last 12 hours?  Is this all you’ve got to defend your opinion of Jefferson?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Nope, TX is, and conservatives, not progressives, want Jefferson erased from the history books.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html 

    Once again, truth is distorted at Glenn Beck dot com.

  • Guest

    The biggest problem you’ve got is your inability to make a case, to provide some kind of defense of your ideas. Merely stating, “that’s not true”, isn’t going to get you very far. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Oh hell no: I just posted about this on The Glenn Beck Review. Lots of lies and distortions are on this one story.

  • Guest

    Jing!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Except Rodney’s vote was not required for passage of the Declaration. It would have passed without him 11-1-1.  The truth does NOT live here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    How come you don’t bitch when Beck name-calls?

    That’s called double standards.

    In the meantime, I just posted about the distortions by Beck and others on this page.

  • Anonymous

    Well said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    I graduated HS at 17 with a Regents Diploma. Got any more ignorance you want to spew, you hateful witch!

  • Anonymous

    ROTFLSHIPMP Very good! We may have started something here!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Seriously? Rock, I’ve documented your hypocrisy.

    I’d respond to your gibberish if you could write as well as a high school graduate. You can’t, but your hatred is dripping off every comment.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Name one example, or just STFU you reactionary moron!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    It says that I want to sue you into poverty for your malicious defamation of character.

    God, you’re f#$king pathetic, stupid and sleazy,  MFGrizzel. 

  • greywolfrs

    You sound mad. What’s the matter, did you not get your daily dose from Obamao’s blue-veined yogurt dispenser?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    If I falsely accused you of molesting children, you’d be happy?

    You need to learn civics 101, but I won’t hold my breath. 

  • greywolfrs

    Yeah, but the NYT is completely truthful. Man, you are one dumb M F er.

  • greywolfrs

    That all you got? Get on your knees and prepare to receive your Obamao love.

  • Anonymous

    Once again,you are WRONG and proved that you are still looking through the narrow lens of bias, propaganda and progressive/socialist media talking points.

    Once again, you distort facts and present your opinion as truth, when you have nothing to stand on. The article is over two years old and irrelevant.

    Once again, you come back swinging at the wind and making outrageous ad hominem attacks.

    Once again, you have struck out. Game over. You lose.

  • greywolfrs

    Remember the old saying “you can’t fix stupid.” It fits vicki to a tee.

  • Anonymous

    Well, Whoopity-Do! Big friggin deal. Why don’ you whip out your phone and call someone who cares.

    “Regents Diploma: Passing score of 65 and above on required Regents Exams for high schools in New York State.”
    I AM SO NOT IMPRESSED. Guess with a 65 that means you didn’t make Beta Club or National Honor Society either.

    Guess what, idiot. Not very many people are familiar with your personal history, because you are not as important or as famous as you think you are. It’s not my ignorance that is shown here, moron. It’s YOURS for assuming that anyone gives a shit about you, Sanduskyman.

  • Anonymous

    Hey thanks, you said what what I was thinking only better, the English language has clearly morphed from the days of the revolution, even in the last 50 (even 10) years and that phenomena has been accelerated by sections of the populace and esp the left to cover/disguise their true agenda. They were first called ”liberals” (which was a perversion in itself) and when that was uncomfortable they adopted “progressive”, and then as true linguistic chameleons move back and forth as to convenience and agenda. Brand new to this site, I made the mistake to blindly respond to someone named “Tinfanny” without having explored his thought process or judgement perameters. I normaly don’t get down in the gutter with the pigs, but I fell into his sty. When I did do some research on his past comments I recognized how much his logical fallacies resembled raindrops on a mirror: They appear on the surface as deep but dissipate quickly in the light of the sun.

  • Anonymous

    I have, you idiot. Many times. You just don’t read and comprehend very well, do you? You only see what you want to see with those narrow-minded lenses and biASSed ASSimilation.
    Sucks to be you, Sanduskyman.

  • Anonymous

    Aren’t you just the prolific idiot here!

  • Anonymous

    FINALLY!!! You just admitted that you lie! You said, “The truth does NOT live here.” I sure hope everyone sees this. You finally realized that you and the truth are strangers! I’ll be damned. ROTFLMAO

  • Anonymous

    Because you are the only one here obsessed with what Beck says or doesn’t say, you idiot. Pick the log out of your own eye! Are you really this stupid? Or do you have to work hard to be this dumb?

  • Anonymous

    Nonsense, Vicky. You can’t respond because you can’t write well enough to make sense… which you just proved with this comment: “I’d respond to your gibberish if you could write as well as a high school graduate. You can’t, but your hatred is dripping off every comment.” WTF are you trying to say, crybaby Sanduskyman?

  • Anonymous

    Really? Now how do you plan to do that, Sanduskyman?
    Are you going to call your fake lawyer and tell him to file papers on a bear named Momma Grizzley? (note the spelling, potty-mouth!) Or are you going to commit a “civil disobedience to get before a judge” like you did to complain about your neighbor’s barking dogs???
    That will be real smart!!! (rolling eyes) You are the most Reactionary Joke of the internet, Sanduskyman.

  • Anonymous

    OMG!!! Did Greywolfrs accuse you of molesting children? What does that have to do with civics 101? Absolutely nothing, you idiot.

  • Anonymous

    Who would want to fix something that is so badly broken it’s beyond repair?

  • Guest

    There’s no relationship between civics and what you are discussing.

  • Guest

    You’ll just get a counter-suit where you’ll be hard up to defend yourself. The only winners will be the lawyers. Surely you cannot think your own behavior is going to go without scrutiny?

  • Guest
  • Sandie

    There is an epistemic epidemic!

    LMAO . . . He saw others using the word and it impressed him, so he started to use it, probably thinking it would impress people who read his blather. I have seen a few others with the same mentality and ego do the same.

    . . . le mot du jour des égoïstes

  • Sandie

    You are correct. The funny part is, the more he posts, the worse he looks.

  • Sandie

    That’s Vic’s world.

  • Guest

    In your critique of writing as well as a high school graduate you made the statement “I’d respond to your gibberish if you could write as well as a high school graduate. You can’t, but your hatred is dripping off every comment.”

    Do you want me to point out the error you made?
    Your first sentence, “I’d respond to your gibberish if you could write as well as a high school graduate.” is basically OK. However, the use of the contraction I’d is a lax way to indicate “I would” since it can also mean “I had”. A contraction like that in speech is one thing, but in the written word it leaves a lot of room for interpretation. You are depending on the ability of the reader to interpret the meaning properly. It’s probably not a big deal in this case, but when you habitually write in a style that leaves a lot of room for interpretation it often becomes an issue as you express ideas in a way that makes people wonder what you really meant. I know I am being fussy about it but, you make a lot of mistakes. So, if you think you’ve got something on anyone else you need to realize that when you point a finger at someone there are usually three others pointing right back at yourself.But, that’s not really the issue. 

    The issue is in the statement, “You can’t, but your hatred is dripping of every comment.”

    This sentence is mechanically OK, but it’s stylistically sloppy.

    You should have written, “I’d respond to your gibberish if you could write as well as a high school graduate, but you can’t. Your hatred is dripping of every comment.” In this way you attach the phrase “you can’t” directly to the statement in sentence once.

    You could have also written,”I’d respond to your gibberish if you could write as well as a high school graduate. But, you can’t. Your hatred is dripping of every comment.”  This would also be a better construction of you idea. 

    Now, on to critiquing someone else for their style. You set yourself up for scrutiny when you write such a harsh critique of someone else as you have done in this case. Remember that when you start grandstanding on the merits of your education.

    So far, either you’ve embarrassed your school or vice versa. You should be ashamed of the education you got or they should be ashamed of the product.

  • Sandie

    I don’t know when Beck calls names (if he does) – I don’t listen to or watch Beck except on the rare occasion when something of particular interest is brought to my attention. You insist and are intent on believing I watch and listen to Beck, thereby making me a ‘Beckerhead’. I tell you I don’t but you refuse to recognize that. That is part of your perception deficit disorder. There have been very few times I have heard Beck use disparaging remarks about someone, but YOU go far beyond that. You call people names on a regular basis without warrant. You use vile names, profanity. I have never heard Beck call people f#$king morons, one of your frequently and generously used epithets. You use many more. What has Beck called any of the people who post at his site? Even the ones who disagree with him and smear him like you?
    He never called me names. There is no double standard there, but I guess you can’t discern that.

    The distortion you post about is in your mind.

  • Sandie

    Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    LOL …mot de demain sera narcissique
    for Dood, if he happens to see this:
    morgige Wort wird Narzisst sein!

    For VT: let him figure it out!

  • Anonymous

    The more he posts, the more likely he will be locked up!

  • Anonymous

    LMAO

  • Sandie

    LOL ….My eyes are getting tired from rolling, reading his stuff.

  • Sandie

    Yes. Walk into any classroom run by a libbyprog and ask those kids the right questions. You would be aghast!

  • Anonymous

    Well said. If only he could and would understand. Alas, the idiot VT is beyond help. If you bored a hole in his head and poured it in, he still would not get it. He’s a delusional retard.

  • Anonymous

    Be careful they don’t get stuck! LMAO

  • Anonymous

    I am. The stuff they teach the kids nowadays is NOTHING like we learned in school. They don’t even bother with civics and social studies in middle school.

  • Sandie

    He has nothing to show for accomplishments, and who would want the feces he has accumulated?

  • Sandie

    Liar again. Once again there is no truth from you.

  • Sandie

    Not when you are here, not from your comment box.

  • Sandie

    Let me make it really simple for you, Beck never called me a name, never mind while trying to debate me as you do. Therefore, no double standard.

  • Anonymous

    That’s because his head is full of J-E-LL-O…

  • Anonymous

    I don’t hate you, I pity you for the moron you are, the moron everyone else can see but you. I have surpassed your writing ability many times, and if you can point out anything in my comments that has been poorly written I challenge you to prove it or shut the hell up. You’ve got nothing on me so bite yourself and get used to the taste.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Just as his namesake Narcissus did.

  • Sandie

    “Ohhh, you got me good this time.

    Typos. Whoa to the person who makes typos.

    Pathetic much?

    Below, this sleazy attack artist and childish flame warrior accuses me to doing something I don’t do (yet again). Then, after lying about me “excoriating others for their typos,” she has the gall to make me out to be a “hypocrite” because of her sleazy lie!

    Desperate much?”
    http://www.alternet.org/story/155953/glenn_beck_declares_war_on_%27glee%27/comments/#comment-564823732

    That is just one example of your childishness in reacting to having your typos pointed out.

  • CaptainAmerica

    So what? What the hell is a Regents Diploma? ( I looked it up dumbo – it doesn’t mean squat outside of New York – and guess what – New York is a mighty small part of the entire USA.). I graduated valedictorian in a class of 632 – Who cares? It is most likely you are probably lying about that, like everything else you write here. 

    I believe I shall call you Nostradumbass from now on because of the inane and absolutely irrelevant ignorance you spew here on a daily basis.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Learn how to use the Reply feature or just STUFF IT you completely irrelevant moron, Nostradumbass!

  • CaptainAmerica

    You should sue yourself for creating a malicious character of yourself, and this remark of yours, posted as “reply to all” further illustrates how you deserve the title of Nostradumbass!

  • Anonymous

    Repeatedly knocking sense into his feeble brain has resulted in permanent damage and left him drooling and staring off into space. Kick him to the gutter and walk on.

  • CaptainAmerica

    You need to learn how to reply to the person you are obviously upset with. You are the stupidest poster on this or any other comment site, Nostradumbass.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like he has invented a one-man army (so far) to fight his battles. Look out for Jerry, the-one-post-to-his-name (so far), troll! VT has purchased a bag of marbles to serve as cojones for his little socks.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. Happy to know that someone else has read Mythology.

  • Anonymous

    Woe to anyone VT targets for his edits and URinaL castigations! He’s such a moron. His conversation with the imaginary reader in his pathetic asides are boring and stupid. VT, the ogre in the swamp who feasts upon his own excrement. LOL

  • Sandie

    And that is the newer requirement. They raised the bar since his time! it was 55 before 2005 … LMAO
    Most students, with some limited exceptions, are required to take the Regents Examinations. To graduate, students are required to have earned appropriate credits in a number of specific subjects by passing year-long or half-year courses, after which they must pass Regents Examinations in some of the subject areas.

  • Sandie

    Here, there and everywhere!

  • CaptainAmerica

    Thanks for noticing. Even in, “flyover country”, contrary to elitist morons beliefs, we study classical literature.

  • Anonymous

    Nostradumbass!!! That’s verra good, Cap’n! Verra funny!!! LOL Next he will confess that he went to college on a minority scholarship and affirmative action…just like COOTUS!!! Did you see that a Regents Diploma only required a 65 to pass? LMAO I bet his mommy praised him and was so proud he didn’t have to get his GED! What is the statue of limitations for being a senior? 5 years? I bet he was the only senior in his graduating class who was old enough to buy beer!

  • Anonymous

    He said he was 17? When he started his senior year? When is his birthday? Sept 30? His mom must have pushed him out the door just before the cut-off for Kindergarten to get him out of her hair. No way Vic the idiot was advanced and skipped a grade…not having to take remedial classes!!! LOL

  • Sandie

    When they do, it is a warped version of it.

  • Anonymous

    Round and round and round he goes. Where he stops…he doesn’t know!

  • Anonymous

    Obviously you went to school before the Demoncrats and their Dept of Ed polluted the educational systems throughout the country.

  • Sandie

    He is self defeating oops left out the “c”.

  • Sandie

    LMAO!

  • Sandie

    He claims to have been 17. like many of us.

  • Anonymous

    Been there, done that, too! ;D

  • CaptainAmerica

    And yet he has the unmitigated gall to go after someone for spelling and grammar errors, and then commits them himself like he does. He is good at shooting himself in the foot, but I have never seen anyone work so hard at it.

  • CaptainAmerica

    That is for sure, where I went to school is considered a backward part of the country by elitist morons like mister regent’s diploma here, but if you worked hard at it and were diligent as a student a well rounded education could be achieved there under the “old school” educational system before the eggheads coming out of the Regents Program in New York and California got a hold of the system and screwed it up to the point where it is now. Kids can still get an education, but they need interpreters now to help them separate the wheat from the chaff, and there is a lot of chaff and less wheat than there used to be.

    The only thing they have added is computers, and in order to incorporate that and their political correctness and propaganda they, by necessity, had to remove large amounts of history, english, mathematics, sciences, social studies, and other formerly important educational materials from the curriculum.

  • CaptainAmerica

    I think he was one of those big slow kids that spent several years in each grade, you know, the kind that were shaving in 7th grade…

    He claims he graduated at 17 – so what? I think that he meant after 17 years of high school. He talks about it with the pride of having just gotten his dip – loma.

  • Anonymous

    He’s got two topics – himself and Beck, and the funny thing is he is absolutely wrong in his appraisals of both, every single time he expounds his idiot opinions.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe some of that criminal record of his had something to do with exposing himself – literally!

  • Anonymous

    He can’t read what’s on the bag, he just wants what is in it because he thinks it’s bacon…

  • Anonymous

    Double-standard hypocrisy! He just doesn’t want to face it when it’s right there in front of him…5″ from his nose!

  • Anonymous

    Bravo! Very well said! Thanks for that!

  • Anonymous

    Wacca! Wacca!

  • Anonymous

    Well, it’s better than the BB’s he used before…

  • Anonymous

    Yep, you’re right about that!

  • Anonymous

    In the words of Barry’s campaign meme “it’s impossible to know for sure” but the implication is there!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    You’re pretty desperate; that’s obvious. Here is here, Glenn Beck dot com.

    The truth does not live at GBTV or here at Glenn Beck dot com. I forgot that I’m addressing children who need everything that obvious spelled out in excruciating detail.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    So many errors, it’s hard to pick just one. Fact is, Jefferson is disliked by conservatives, not progressives. Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson were for progress in human dignity and political worth. That doesn’t mean that they were Progressives because that label was over 100 years ahead of their time, but they certainly were forward, not backward looking political philosophers.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html?_r=1 

  • Anonymous

    I’m desperate? You are out of your league little boy. You’re the one sending your little sock-trolls to attack me and try to uncover my real identity.

    What you fail to realize is that most people who post here are not as stupid as you are. Most people here have more than a “Regents High School Diploma”, which is on par with a GED, in the State of New York.

    Most people here do not have an obsessive fixation on Glenn Beck and everything he does, says and publishes.

    You, on the other hand, have dedicated your pathetic existence to slandering Beck and everyone who posts on his site. You have a rag-sheet manifesto that consumes your tiny little mind with copying and pasting comments. No one reads that shit you write. Your delusions and their manifestations here and on your URinaL are proof that you are an imbecile with severe mental and emotional problems.

    Since you require explicit clarification and specific examples of your idiocy, I suggest you spend time off-site reading the comments where many of the posters here have listed your crimes, lies, slander, attacks and profane insults and spelled out TO YOU the obvious in excruciating detail. In the past two years you have repeatedly and continuosly avoided, deflected, denied, lied and refused to admit the OBVIOUS spelled out to you in “excruciating detail”. [Is that your big word for the day? excruciating, painful--like YOU]

    You have a comprehension problem. What part of “you’re an idiot” don’t you understand?

    Go away, Sanduskyman. You’ve run your course and lost.

  • Anonymous

    BTW—How do you know that the truth doesn’t live at GBTV as you claim IF YOU NEVER WATCHED IT???

    Gotcha in another lie! You’re such a putz.

  • Anonymous

    You posted this before. It was a lie then and it’s a lie now. Give it up. Pack up your factless, baseless assumptions and take them to the progressive sites where they will believe anything you say as long as you use the word “progressive”.

    You’ve been exposed. Nothing you can say now will redeem your reputation or improve your standing. You are now and will be forever known for your lies, your theater of the absurd and the fictional revisionist history you’re trying sell.

    Hasta la vista, Butthead.

  • Sandie

    That was clear as mud when I said it…LOL – he claims to have been 17 when he graduated, and there were a lot of us who were 17 at HS graduation.

  • Sandie

    And here all this time I thought shooting himself in the foot came naturally to him, like an inborn, genetic trait or prediletion.

  • Anonymous

    Many people with late spring to late summer birthdays are 17 when they graduate. My two kids were 17 when they graduated. He isn’t as exceptional as he thinks he is.

  • CaptainAmerica

    I think it takes a lot of effort for Nostradumbass to shoot himself in the foot repeatedly – evidence of that is his unending stream of stupidity on display here every day.

    Which is why he owns the title NOSTRADUMBASS!

  • Anonymous

    No effort, just stupidity…and a very bad habit…more like OCD!!!

  • Sandie

    Exactly.
    He knows he isn’t special but wants to think so, and wants to give the impression that he is by saying he grad at 17, like no one is going to catch on to his little fancy footwork. LMAO

  • Sandie

    When will his trigger finger .. err… last brain cell ever tire?

  • Anonymous

    Just shows how very stupid the idiot VT is. LOL

  • CaptainAmerica

    He does have an amazing level of endurance for it, doesn’t he? Maybe it’s part of his title “Nostradumbass” ???

  • Sandie

    Like Nostradumbas’s Nostradumbact.

  • CaptainAmerica

    He’s the worst insult to himself anyone could ever come up with, and the best part is he hasn’t got a clue about it.

  • Anonymous

    Give me the coordinates and I will reconnoiter the situation.

  • Anonymous

    Just sit back and relax. Pop some corn and brink a 6-pack. Within 12 hours he will be back working hard to make a bigger fool of himself than he did tonight. Masochistic self-flaggelation is his forte. He assassinates his character over and over. It’s like watching re-runs of the same TV show everyday!

  • Anonymous

    He’s still frozen with fear, hiding in the basement in the house next to the scummy pond….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    I offered a link to the facts about how conservatives don’t like Jefferson and have scrubbed him from the TX history books. How can you suffer from such deep anal-retentive inversion as to claim that it’s a “lie?”

    Oh right, you and reality are far, far, far apart.

    If anyone has been “exposed,” it’s you and your sleazy, malicious and vicious defamation of character. If anyone is revising history for political reasons, it’s Beck and Barton.

    GBTV: the real theater of the absurd.

    THAT would make for an honest slogan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Wrong again: Mediaite covered his first show when he proudly exclaimed that, yes, Obama is a “Marxist.” Besides, why would he suddenly start telling the truth? It’s not in his blood. The man even lied about his own mother’s death!

    GBTV: The propaganda lives there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    I’m not sending anyone to do anything…yet; but my lawyer may.

    You see, dillweed, you cannot legally get away with being a sleazy defamer of character. It’s against the law. You don’t understand that simple fact, so you’re on very shaky ground when you insult anyone’s intelligence.

    I’d bet a paycheck that you have NEVER taken a political theory or political science class. You are excruciatingly ignorant about all things political.

    Telling me to “go away” just tells us that YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH about your cult hero, GB, America’s Joseph Goebbels. 

  • Anonymous

    Because you pulled an out-dated link and cherry-picked comments OF SOMEONE’S OPINION and NO FACTS. You are such a delusional idiot.

    You’ve been exposed as a liar, hypocrite and racist with a vendetta. You assassinate your own character–what’s left of it–and project your biases and convoluted opinions onto others.

    How would you know GBTV is absurd theater if you don’t watch it? Because you lie and target innocuous statements to attack with vicious ad hominems. You can’t comment on what you don’t know–unless you’re a REACTIONARY instigator and flame thrower!

    You are such an idiot, Sanduskyman.

  • Anonymous

    You’re such a dumbass. Another lame excuse based on second-hand and biased information. You have no objectivity. Why would you start telling the truth after all these years and numerous lies? How do you know he lied about his mother’s death? YOU WEREN’T THERE! Pathetic nit-picking.

    Victor Tiffany: where insanity and stupidity rules!

  • Anonymous

    Empty threats based on lies. You’d be laughed out of a lawyer’s office unless he’s an ambulance chaser just after your government assistance paycheck.

    In your own stupid words that indict you for what you do: “You see, dillweed, you cannot legally get away with being a sleazy defamer of character. It’s against the law. You don’t understand that simple fact, so you’re on very shaky ground when you insult anyone’s intelligence.” PROVE IT! Bring it on, Butthead! What’s stopping you from making a fool of yourself–AGAIN?

    You’re the ignorant fool who knows nothing of politics–otherwise you wouldn’t make such ridiculous comments.

    I don’t need your pitiful paycheck, but I have the college transcripts with experience to prove what I know–more so than you! This bet is just your sleazy, underhanded way to find out who I am. You don’t have a clue. And it drives you nuts. Besides, you would never make good on a bet. You’re a liar and braggart with no substance or integrity.

    You can’t even pick up the social clues that tell you that you aren’t welcomed, not even tolerated! That’s why you won’t go away. YOU CAN’T TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT ANYTHING. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE DISCUSSIONS. Your tired pathetic repetitious nonsense is boring and ridiculous.

    You are so stupid, Sanduskyman.

  • CaptainAmerica

    I suppose next he will tell us his attorney is Lawyer J. Noble Daggett, and his real name is Mattie Ross, of Near Dardanelle in Yell County, and his family owns property, and he doesn’t know why he’s being treated like this!

    Nostradumbass is such a drama queen!

  • SoThere

    “you cannot legally get away with being a sleazy defamer of character” 
    You have a website devoted to doing just that!  You try and do it here daily.

    J. Noble Daggett to the rescue!!!!

    ROTFLMAO

  • CaptainAmerica

    His “proof” is often comprised of other person’s opinions, and seldom has any factual content, like most true liberal regressives. They all want to return to the days of prohibition, but not just alcohol; their true goal is to make everything illegal and taxable so the robber-barons of politics can have a true career of evil and rule over us like feudal Europe in the New Dark Ages.

    That is their vision for the future, and it isn’t pretty, is it?

  • SoThere

    All the Founding Fathers were “forward” looking people.  Read the Constitution nimrod, they wrote it to protect us citizens from people like you Progressives.

    Liberal progressives are Socialist Marxist idiots (Obama is certainly one)trying to control everyone’s lives.  Next they will resort to their plans of Human engineering, genocide and manipulation George B. Shaw style, to match their social justice garbage.  They already kill millions of the unborn and use the cost of supporting babies as an excuse.

  • CaptainAmerica

    “My name is Mattie Ross, of Near Dardanelle in Yell County. My family owns property, and I don’t know why I’m being treated like this! I won’t rest until Tom Chaney is barking in Hell! They’re in this story together. Now, I’ve got business across the river and if you interfere with me you may land up in court which you don’t want to be. I’ve got a good lawyer in J. Noble Daggett!”

    That’s you, all over, Nostradumbass!

    Bet a paycheck??? You mean someone pays you to be this much of a moron? Now that’s as excruciatingly ignorant as anything I’ve ever heard of!

    I need to meet the person who pays for your caliber of stupidity, yes sir, now that would be something to see indeed!

    BWAAAAAHAAAAA HAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Damn, you are one funny AND ignorant bastard!

  • CaptainAmerica

    Oh yeah, Mediaite, you must have fond memories there, huh? That’s the site you were kicked off for life because you threatened to mutilate and kill Dood on, isn’t it?

    Yep, your history has milestones that mark sites you have been barred from making comments on – this site included. Apparently re-creating your Disqus profile is all it takes to get around the absent moderators here. Seems Mediaite was a bit more effective at keeping you out.

    Good for Mediaite.

    The Glenn Beck Review is the home of propaganda and left wing programming.

    Nostradumbass, you never fail to entertain us.

  • CaptainAmerica

    You “offer” nothing of any use and you do it every day.

    You have been exposed as a criminal, liar, narcissist, plagiarist, idiot, charlatan, ideolog, fool, jackass, coward and so many other things that it would be pointless to continue beyond saying that you are the one and only true NOSTRADUMBASS on the web.

    You lost your credibility on your libtard homeground – none of the people at Alternet or MotherJones or Truthout are coming to your defense anymore because you were exposed for being a false prophet – they don’t take kindly to people who present themselves as a fellow occupier, and then confess to being paid by a Fortune 500 corporation, do they? They also don’t have much of an appreciation for criminals like you who aren’t boastful of their crimes, but give lame excuses for all the things on their record, like you.

    Even the crackpot leftist freaks you want to lead can see that you are a liar!

    Nostradumbass, you’ve been busted, and now you are done.

  • SoThere

    Obama is a “Marxist” there’s no doubt of that now.  His mother was a Marxist, his Father was a sex fiend and Socialist, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn are Marxists terrorists, (Obama was caught in his lies when he said that they were casual friends, we all know better now) Rev. Wright is a racist.

    I’d say he hit it right on the nose when he said that.  How things bear him out in the light of day.

  • Guest

    How can you have your head so far up your ass & Barry’s that your face is 10 shades darker than your hairy fat ass?

    The only reality you know is what you have created in your delusional narcissistic brain of hate, lies and profanity.

    You make absurd theater look like a bad LSD trip.

  • Anonymous

    No it isn’t. And I’ll be damned if I’ll stand back and watch these whiny-ass-punk-bitches the likes of Victor Tiffannny and his cast of sock clowns tear it down or the COOTUS and his socialist friends destroy the US Flag and the Republic for which it stands. This will be the last of any administration to circumvent and wreck the Constitution! That’s my mission: to make sure it never gets this bad again.

  • Anonymous

    The GlennBeckReview is a yellow rag sheet of assinine opinions and insanity rants against “avatars” who differ with his stupid retard postings. His URinaL is nothing but trash.

  • Anonymous

    Stick a fork in him and toss him off the grill into the trash.

  • Guest

    LIES, THREATS, and PROPAGANDA. You are excruciatingly ignorant about all things, especially political. You can’t handle any truth because all you can do is LIE. Let’s see what your lawyer MAY do…or not! This should be fun to watch.

  • Guest

    Funny that you would quote Mediaite, the other propaganda site of news and entertainment. Like you, they have no credibility. Truth doesn’t run through your veins, and never has. Enough with your LIES.

  • CaptainAmerica

    What’s the matter? Cat got your tongue there, Mattie? Still not talking to me because you can’t take the beatings I deal out to you each and every time you attempt to cross points with me? Such is the sad life of the Internet’s one and only Nostradumbass. Before this gets too painful for you, I am sure that Lawyer J. Noble Daggett must have told you for defamation is actionable, the people you are accusing have to be identified, and you have to be able to prove that the person you accuse actually exists and can be connected to the “defamation”. 

    Unfortunately for you, you have nothing but your own manufactured lies to present, and those lies will also completely discredit you in civil court – perhaps you should have thought of that before you became Nostradumbass about three years ago. All that the defense would have to present would be your idiotic and insane blog posts on the review of your made up mental diarrhea, and you would be laughed out of the courtroom while the bailiffs restrain you as you blow a gasket and throw a wall-eyed hissy fit for all to see. 

    On the plus side, directly after that display I am sure the counter suit would be interesting after the judge orders a psych eval on you and for you to be held in custody while that evaluation proceeds. 

    Nostradumbass, you never fail to succeed at failure, do you?

  • CaptainAmerica

    Like the burnt weenie that he is – he’s not fit to be considered anything but overdone mystery meat.

  • Anonymous

    Certainly wouldn’t be like a Perry Mason re-run, that’s for sure. Maybe like the People’s Court! I could see Judge Judy kicking him to the curb!!! LOL

  • Anonymous

    Or the dog that Barry ‘ate’!

  • Sandie

    Same old BS, different day. Out of the hundreds of conservatives I know, not one dislikes Jefferson. You eat too much bias pie.

  • Sandie

    “You cannot legally get away with being a sleazy defamer of character. It’s against the law.” Beck could have a field day with you then. Maybe that’s why he lets you continue to hang yourself.

  • Sandie

    The coronor wrote COD was accidental drowning, but the investigators said they could not rule out suicide – ie the cause of the drowning was inconclusive and they would never know for certain. But leave it to Vicky one note, he selects what suits his purpose and no reasoning will shake it. He must have enough cherries for a hundred pies by now.

  • Anonymous

    That’s not all he swallows!

  • Anonymous

    LOL

  • Sandie

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    He gets stuck in a rut and digs deeper and deeper, never getting himself out. “Vicky one note” as you call him, uses the same flawed excuses and implications as Axelrat and the rest of Barry’s campaign propagandists: “it’s impossible to know” about a supposition or accusation, just enough to doubt the truth of their opposition. Talk about gullible. Vicky drinks every cup of koolaid they pass around, laced or straight.

  • Sandie

    The GBR is the LIAR LAIR

  • Anonymous

    Note: One of the “guests” or maybe it was me–can’t remember–mentioned something to him about “jumping the shark”. Being the dumbass who cuts/pastes the work of others and never has an original thought, Vic the Prick used the term 3 times in 3 different comments tonight! What a stupid parrot. And he calls everyone else stupid. Just thought I’d pass that along before I call it a night…. lol

  • Sandie

    His behavior on the boards was bad enough to turn people off, but how hilarious and fitting that his own bugsite sealed it for him – it proved what we said and was a grand display of his insanity.

  • Sandie

    Now that courtroom scene you described was LMAO funny!

  • Sandie

    Ya, huh?

  • Sandie

    And as you said, “That’s not all he swallows!”

  • CaptainAmerica

    Vindication and vengeance go hand in hand with this self righteous fool’s epic failure.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Oh Yeah! It’s the Moon-bat’s Bat Cave!

  • CaptainAmerica

    Can I say oh-yeah and oh-yuck in the same sentence???

  • Sandie

    Heh – Heh, how sweet it is!

  • CaptainAmerica

    Yep, it would be a comic event for sure. Everyone would be laughing except him…

  • CaptainAmerica

    And it’s “True Sh*t” which should be the title of the saga of Nostradumbass…

  • CaptainAmerica

    I think that the beatings should continue until he drops out of sight, and should resume immediately upon his inevitable return. He’s a boomerang – no matter how many times you get rid of him, he comes back over and over again, just like Franklin’s oft quoted definition of insanity!

  • Anonymous

    Poetic justice is so sweet!

  • Anonymous

    He’s like a tape loop of lies and idiocy playing over and over and over on into eternity.

  • Anonymous

    Broadcast to you nightly from the tiny little brass ballroom, High atop the hotel Algonquin, on the shores of the lake of fire, It’s Nostradumbass and his GBR orchestra of one…

  • Anonymous

    And licks the cup clean every time – like a cat with his head stuck in a Yoplait yogurt cup…

  • Anonymous

    Check. I wonder what look will appear on his mug when he hears me behind him and sees my war-paint up close and personal???

  • Anonymous

    Yeah. It’s a typical reaction to anything Nostradumbass!

  • Anonymous

    He’s too stupid to realize he’s the joke! LOL

  • Anonymous

    Someone should turn off the machine…that’s like a broken record caught in a scratchy groove.

  • Anonymous

    Deer in the headlights, D’Oh…or maybe Duh!

  • Sandie

    He won’t drop out of sight, he’s like the monster at the end of the movie that keeps getting up. That’s OK though, the more he does, the more he exposes himself.

  • Sandie

    Yes it is!

  • CaptainAmerica

    Fine by me, I never get tired of telling Nostradumbass what a complete idiot he is.

  • CaptainAmerica

    His new gig is infiltrating TFC with spies. He is such a clumsy idiot that he outed his activities in the last couple of days, and he’s gone after SoThere with stuff from TFC. What a NOSTRADUMBASS he is! This must be how Obama uses the CIA – put some operatives in the field and immediately shoot them in the back of the head when they provide intelligence by making a big public display of it.

    He’s like a four year old with a secret – at the least inquiry he spits it out, and then acts embarrassed for telling it. Nostradumbass never matured beyond four years of age, yet he expects to be treated with respect and given trust and authority without earning it. He doesn’t understand you can’t intimidate people into liking you, and you can’t beat respect out of them either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    It was Jefferson who stated: “Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.” I think that this is because Beck doesn’t approve of the homage of reason. Emotion is Beck’s way of getting to conclusions.

    Leave it to Beck to misquote him, over and over, to distort his statement. Beck even misquoted Jefferson about this during his 8/28 Mall speech AFTER he first said, “Our sacred honor. It means that you tell the truth. The whole truth and nothing but the truth.” 

    Beck did not tell the whole truth that day. He misquoted Jefferson (again). He got the history of the Washington monument wrong, and he told a bold-faced lie about holding an address my Washington in his hands.

    Sacred honor? HA! Not from Beck, at least, not according to Beck’s own definition.

  • Anonymous

    …Nor shove his bias and hypocrisy down people’s throats. Thank God he isn’t smart enough, or have the support of anyone who might be, to achieve a position of power above dog-catcher.

  • Guest

    Guess you were there that day, eh?  You are trying to compare the apples of Jefferson’s statements to the rotted fruit of your baseless opinion and biased assimilation.

    If you DID think, you would know better. You don’t think. You don’t know better. You don’t know at all.  

    You’re a fine one to talk of honor! As if….

  • Sandie

    Apparently he has a short memory

  • Sandie

    It is too funny, but pathetic. He thinks he got into something he wasn’t supposed to see, saw only that level where it is a lot of joking around and R&R, but thinking (or WANTING TO THINK) he has SOMETHING he takes what little is there and twists it into something far from what it was. It isn’t like his public bugsite where he dishonestly displays edited/modified crap. What a loser! What he did was invade a private site more than once. Internet breaking and entering. But he was caught before he got anywhere important. Fraudster is going to pay, I’ll bet.

  • Sandie

    He shot himself in both feet this time!…. LMAO

  • Anonymous

    Violation of Terms of Agreements? Will they sue? If they take him away in shackles and leg irons, please take pictures and post them on the hall of shame! Horizontal pen-strips (intentional spelling) are not flattering on an old, bald, fat, white man. Obsession got the best of him!

  • Anonymous

    Who does he think he is? Maxwell Smart???

  • CaptainAmerica

    Spoofing is his game – in many ways. He uses the same spin tactics on his jokesite which is full of propagandized crap. He zeroed in on what he thought was going to be a treasure trove, but he found out that there wasn’t much left for him to exploit. I feel confident he will spin everything his way and leak it since he imagines himself to be another Julian Assange.

    The joke will soon be on him.

  • Sandie

    LMAO . . . all in due time…

  • Sandie

    Indeed it shall.

    What he did by hacking after being expelled just further exposes him as a dishonest person and confirms how unethical he is. He has no respect for boundaries. That sort of compulsive antisocial behavior is socially unacceptable…. and he wonders why people can’t stand him. He doesn’t even see what he is doing is wrong, and continues to claim that everyone else is dishonest, hypocritical, unethical, etc., when the whole time he is guilty of it all.

  • Anonymous

    CRIMINAL! Who does he think he is? Julian Assange?

    Hardly.

  • Sandie

    Julian ASSange?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    No, the framers who it to protect us from religunuts like Beck and Barton.

    Progressives aren’t socialists or Marxists, but go on and think that. It conveys just how ignorant and gullible you reactionary Beckerheads are.

    I have news for you: conservatives have abortions to, and the “excuse” has little to do with the cost of supporting them, something reactionaries like Beck do not want the gov’t to do.

    Finally, “nimrod,” the Constitution was written to be amended to account for flaws in it and to overturn bad SCOTUS decisions. These amendments are usually the result of progressives working with other concerned citizens including principled conservatives, something, again, that Beck is NOT.

    Hypocrite? Yes, but Beck is not principled about anything but making money from gullible fools.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    The reactionaries you know?  What, both of them?

    Try this on: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html 

    Of course, you don’t care about facts that conflict with your beliefs. Why should you? You’re a Beckerhead. Being a Beckerhead means never having to fact the facts that undermine your dumb-ass beliefs.

  • Guest

    You need to “edit” this post so it meets the academic standards of at least seventh grade. And no, I don’t mean you need to dumb it down. You need to bring it up to those standards.

  • CaptainAmerica

    “No, the framers who it to protect us from religunuts like Beck and Barton.”

    You are absolutely WRONG about the Constitution and the freedom of religion, not to mention that sentence is nearly unintelligible, (oops, I did mention it). That isn ‘t  at all why it is included in the Constitution; the reason any mention is made is to prevent a state sponsored religion like the Anglican Church from being established here.  They didn’t want any politicization of religion like was the case in England – the people who originally came to this country in the 1600′s came here for what? FOR THE FREEDOM TO WORSHIP AS THEY PLEASED without persecution from the government. Remember the Pilgrims, Roger Williams, William Penn? 

    You liberal people have been trying to turn that part of the Constitution into a mandate for freedom FROM religion for over a century. That isn’t what it says, and the Constitution was written to be read and understood by the common man, not an elite educated class who thinks they deserve to rule over those who are lesser in intellect, (which is usually an incorrect assumption made by prideful and arrogant fools like you).

    *********************************************************************

    From the Bill of Rights – verbatim:

    Article [I]13Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redressof grievances.
    *******************************************************************************

    No where does it state that there is a freedom from religion, or “religinuts” as you of no faith prefer to call the faithful people who you despise. Looks like you are wrong once again, Victard, or is it your position that the First Amendment only applies when you are gathering in public and crapping on police cars with your Occupy pals?

    Your belief that the Constitution is amendable because it is flawed doesn’t wash either. The Constitution was intentionally made flexible to prevent it from becoming outdated, but most of the amended portions of it have been added later to do things like eliminate slavery, and to further delineate the rights of the people. That some things were not foreseen was an assumption made by the framers of the Constitution, and the reason for amend-ability was for the purpose of keeping the supreme law of the land up to date, not to “correct flaws”. That’s another liberal concept, when liberals can’t explain their own aberrant and flawed thinking this comes out as it has with you.

    Your problem is you are the flaw – not the Constitution. That is why nearly every free country in the world uses THE Constitution as a pattern for their own founding document.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Of course, you don’t care about facts that conflict with your beliefs. Why should you? You’re an idiot. Being an idiot means never having to fact the facts that undermine your Nostradumbass beliefs. 
    That apparently grants you license to belittle and annoy. FYI – your license has been revoked.

  • Guest

    “No, the framers who it to protect us from religunuts like Beck and Barton.” What are you trying to say? This makes no sense.

    Today’s Progressive movement is grounded in socialist/marxist ‘philosophy’ and tenets.

    Abortions have nothing to do with the history report here. Genocide is not abortion, but baby-killing is high on Obummer’s list with his votes to pass late-term abortions in the Illinois Senate.

    Do enlighten the readers here on why  “the “excuse” has little to do with the cost of supporting them”. You must know, or you wouldn’t have brought it up.

    And finally, this paragraph: “Finally, “nimrod,” the Constitution was written to be amended to account for flaws in it and to overturn bad SCOTUS decisions. These amendments are usually the result of progressives working with other concerned citizens including principled conservatives, something, again, that Beck is NOT.” …is something you obviously made up thinking that it made sense and is factual. It is neither. This shows that you know nothing about the history of the Constitution nor the legislative process regarding the passage of laws and amendments and the role the Supreme Court plays in the process.

    Perhaps you need to take that high school course in Government and Civics again.

  • Guest

    Instead of addressing the issue, you attack the person who commented with insults and name-calling.

    And what does this mean? “Being a Beckerhead means never having to fact the facts that undermine your dumb-ass beliefs.”
    …which leads us to the corollary: being who you are and the personality you have established here means that you avoid facts altogether.

    Also, note that the biased NYTimes article is over 2 years old.

    Nice try resurrecting an old forum instead of facing the flaws in your arguments in the current forums.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent rebuttal.

  • Anonymous

    He fact the facts? What the FACT??? LMAO

  • Sandie

    I will restate what I wrote ….”Out of the hundreds of conservatives I know, not one dislikes Jefferson. ” What is it that you can’t grasp about the word “hundreds”? I know – it’s your pathetic attempt to diminish my statement by trying to change ‘hundreds’ to ‘both’. Cheap trick, doesn’t work. You lose that point, and you didn’t address what I said.

    So, you offer a link to a March 2010 article in the NYT…. No left bias there! In it 10 people out of 15 on the TX board of Ed. (none of the 15 historians), voted to “reject the notion by the left of a constitutional separation of church and state”. SO? Anyone who has read the Constitution knows that there is no separation of church and state in the Constitution.

    But here is the big thing that Vic is putting all his BS on: which appears at the end of the article.

    Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict Constitutionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs, [OMG, can you imagine? it actually was to a degree!!] managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century, replacing him with …[others]…” He was not cut out of the TX History books as Vic claims, just one little list . . . You are a liar Vic! lose more points. . . Then the NYT author of the article goes on to give his OPINION>>>>>”Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state.” … Vic’s claim that “conservative don’t like Jefferson” is all from one NYT author’s opinion and therefore BULLSH!T .

    Also pushed through was a change to the teaching of the civil rights movement to ensure that students study the violent philosophy of the Black Panthers in addition to the nonviolent approach of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. They also made sure that textbooks would mention the votes in Congress on civil rights legislation, which Republicans supported. [Ya, now they had to allow some facts in about the Republican side of things].

    Approval was also won for an amendment saying students should study “the unintended consequences” of the Great Society legislation, affirmative action and Title IX legislation.[How horrid that kids should be taught to be responsible instead of assuming the government will take care of them cradle to grave].

    Other changes seem aimed at tamping down criticism of the right. [enough of the left promoting their own agenda far too long - how horrid!]

  • Anonymous

    Vic is proof that the progressive move to dumb down the masses works…well in his case, it does. I think most people are smart enough to see through the Progressive lies…except Vic. He wants so much to belong to a group that he will believe anything they say and twist the logic to make it fit his ‘program’.

  • Sandie

     Right on Captain America!. You got it dead on and showed Vic to be the total ignoramus he is concerning the Constitution!.

    How he can be so wrong headed – maybe he just listens to the ignorant talk from the left wing libbyprogs.

  • Anonymous

    The framers were trying to make amendments very difficult to achieve. By this action, they were trying to make the government reach a consensus before enacting any amendments, and stopping any radical side from pushing through their personal beliefs – Laws.

    In this manner reaching a balance of power between all political view points and ideals.

    We can see this tension in the Federalist, Anti-Federalist.

    So to use Jefferson or Madison as the source of the framers is looking at one point of view. The Democratic-Republican Party.

    And even more importantly no one in the Senate or House should ever pass a bill without fully reading and understanding it. This makes a total mochary of the system and a dereliction of their duties. Every single representative that voted on such a bill should have been impeached and receive the maximum civil punishment.

  • Guest

     …

  • Sandie

     Those weren’t facts, they were someones opinion. The scrubbed claim is a LIE. How can you suffer from such deep anal-retentive inversion as to make such bogus claims?

    Oh right, you and reality are far, far, far apart

    If anyone has been “exposed,” it’s you and your sleazy, malicious and
    vicious defamation of character. If anyone is revising history for
    political reasons, it’s You, Vic and your libbyprog puppet masters.

    Victor Tiffany and his bugsite – the real theater of the absurd.

    THAT would make for an honest slogan.

  • Sandie

    There was no need for you to go spouting off like this, we are all well aware of your ignorance and need to try to insult or denigrate your betters.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Thank you. He never will understand the Constitution because he filters everything through his liberal eyes and ears – he never gets the facts straight because he is such an ignorant and indoctrinated fool.

  • Sandie

    Victor is unaffected by logic and REAL history. He will spin like a dedicated lefty libbyprog are /he is and continue to spout the talking points regardless of how ignorant they are because that is the way they do it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HPBCJLKVPRIH7DP77TKTMWSBUA Lavonne

    Do you know of a good High School American History curriculum that hasn’t been hijacked by the progressives? We have the David Barton books, the Real series and others that you have recommended, but haven’t been able to find an actual curriculum.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    David Barton is a bigger liar than Glenn Beck. Even his publisher has pulled his most recent book because it’s so inaccurate AND Barton is the main character in the book Liars for Jesus. The author has made the book available to read for free:

    http://www.liarsforjesus.com/downloads/LFJ_FINAL.pdf 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Amazing history Glenn Beck doesn’t want you do know:

    Thomas Jefferson got it right when in 1802 he wrote, “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property—until their children wake up homeless in the continent their fathers conquered.” 

  • Guest

    Funny, the people at Monticello say the quote is a fake… Why do you spread lies and then claim someone else is lying?

    http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/private-banks-quotation

  • Guest

    Did you even bother to research the quotes yourself, or are you just spewing the propaganda from the “Little Left-Wing Machine” again?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    How many times have you pointed out Beck’s misquotation of Jefferson, the one where Beck made up the phrase “honest questioning?”

    Double standards?  Much.

  • Guest

    The problem is your using a misquote now. There’s the hypocrisy. You aren’t even trying to understand what Beck said in his misstatement of the Jefferson quote which didn’t really change what the implication of Jefferson’s meaning. And besides, you even admitted that you aren’t qualified to comment on matters of faith and Beck states in his book where the misquote appears that he had a moment of inspiration. 

    You can try to split hairs all day long Vicky<2, but you're too stupid to realize that you aren't qualified to be a critic of anyone. Why aren't you railing against the misquote of Jefferson on the Banks? Why aren't you being honest about Ryan's Pell grant cuts? Why do you think everyone believes that you're an idiot? Do you think it's because I say so, or do you think it because they see it for themselves?

    You are so stupid…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Oh, Obama is so scary, so BAD for America, right?  Is that why Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp donated nearly $89,000 to Obama’s campaign for re-election?

    http://www.politicususa.com/rupert-murdochs-news-corp-donated-59000-reelect-obama.html 

    You people — including and especially Mr. Beck — are dupes of the corporate overlords.

  • VindicatorX

    You are simply a dupe, and your idiocy is your repeated pasting of that bull in the front of several posts on different topics – which oddly enough follows your standard of irrelevance no matter what the subject.

  • Sandie

    FALSE. Here you are off topic to promote your own brand of ignorance, and with faulty data to boot.

    Murdoch’s News Corp donated $58,825 to Obama’s campaign for 2012, not $89,000.

    He personally dislikes Romney, but now that Romney has selected Ryan he is becoming more positive. Murdoch is putting his money where he thinks it will benefit his own interests (and his companies) which is Obama. Why should it surprise anyone that Murdoch is putting his money where he thinks his bread is going to get buttered most? Obama ! What would your OWS buddies say? SO he thinks Obama is going to win – he has his opinion which is contrary to many others who think otherwise. That should tell you something about Obama as in the past Murdoch has been on the Republican side. Example

    Recipient . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Donation
    National Republican Senatorial Cmte $307,800
    Republican National Cmte $55,044
    Democratic National Cmte $52,000
    News Corp PAC $35,000
    National Republican Congressional Cmte $21,000
    Philip Morris PAC $20,500
    Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) $13,600
    Ex-Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kan.) $13,000
    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) $12,200
    Sen. John E. Sununu (R-N.H.) $10,600
    Republican Party of Alaska $10,000
    Republican Party of Washington $10,000
    Ex-Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) $9,200
    Sen. Candidate Bill Jones (R-Calif.) $8,000
    Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.) $7,700

    Vic, you troll, you are such a tool for the leftists and such a dishonest deceitful puppet, running around on Beck’s forums posting your troll droppings. You don’t even have to admit what you are and what you are doing – it is obvious as you are all over he place with this crap. All it is is TROLL DROPPINGS

  • Sandie

     Typical, here you are starting a thread on a July 13 forum, and with faulty data to boot.
    Why should it surprise anyone that Murdoch is putting his money where he thinks his bread is going to get buttered most? SO he thinks Obama is going to win – he has his opinion which is contrary to many others who think otherwise.

  • Guest

     Only dupe here is you, victor. Liberal dupe, Democrat dope, Socialist dope, puppet.

  • Guest

    You left out “Funny Little Man”.

  • AdamAnt

    Or he is just another liberal dope. Either way works for me.

  • VindicatorX

    Dupe, dope – potato, potahtoe…

  • Sandie

    Quoting Vic . . . “Oh, Obama is so scary, so BAD for America, right?  Is that why Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp donated nearly $89,000 to Obama’s campaign for re-election?

    http://www.politicususa.com/ru… 

    You people — including and especially Mr. Beck — are dupes of the corporate overlords.”

    Want to to bet he goes back and changes his post from $89,000 to $59,000?

  • Guest

    Either that or he’s a broken record repeating the same ol’ memes like a parrot! …What he calls: SOS; DD!!!

  • Guest

    Word is that he was blackmailed by Soros. Remember all the trouble he had in Great Britain? Remember when Glenn Beck was asked to have a sit down with Soros people and he refused? There was a deal hatched and blood money made and transferred. Haven’t you noticed that Bill O’Reilly has tipped the ‘no spin’ and ‘fair and balanced’ scales in Obozo’s favor…especially since his SuperBowl interview? Notice, too that there are many of the liberal pundits showing up to balance the scales in the debates on many of the shows. Yeah…this is the only transparency about this administration: the Chicago Way of manipulating the press.

  • AdamAnt

    He already did it.

  • Sandie

    Hmmmmmmmmmmm

  • Sandie

    I saw that – He wasn’t very thorough, and can’t fix them so no one will know what happened …LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    I can prove any number of lies Beck has told. Let’s start with the lie he told when he claimed that he wrote “Truth has no agenda.” He did not write that.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/18/thedc-exclusive-conservatives-hit-beck-for-taking-content-without-attribution/4/ 

    Shall I go on?  Beck falsely claimed that the mission to kill bin Laden “”contradicted every bit of foreign policy, everything [Obama has] ever advocated.” 

    That’s a bold-faced lie. During the campaign for President, Obama actually said, “And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act and we will take them out. We will kill bin Laden….”

    I could go on. You are proving the fierce validity of Colbert’s “truthiness.” If you feel like it’s the truth, then it is, no matter how deceitful the claim is.

    Now I posted the link to The Daily Caller, the lie was right there. You just refuse to even try to wrap your head around the fact that your hero lies. He makes many false claims; we just do not know if he actually knows the truth (that he’s lying) or not (that Beck is just an uneducated, ignorant propagandist like Limbaugh).

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    …wrote the reactionary liar who smears me every chance you get.

    You falsely accuse me of being “Sanduskyman,” which makes you the pathetic, stupid reactionary liar.

    I’ve seen your lies about me when you were momwith5kids, and you’re just as sleazy with as the illiterate MommaGrizzley (sic). YOU CAN’T EVEN SPELL GRIZZLY CORRECTLY!

    You don’t “best” me; you show that Beck’s supporters lie and defame character of Beck’s critics. THAT is all sleazy, worthless reactionary supporters like you demonstrate.

    Go ahead, tell more lies about me, a person you’ve never met and do not begin to understand, no matter what deceitful, sleazy, stupid claims you make about me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Uhhh. Bankers work for corporations. You’re not very bright, are you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    You mean is about regress. Go back to the 19th Century’s Gilded Age.

    Thanks, but no thanks. I do not want corporations in control. Beck does because he’s a corporate propagandist (but he doesn’t tell you that.)

  • Anonymous

    Why are you responding to a month old post? What purpose does it serve for you to revisit old discussions? Are you running out of current material since no one else is responding to your crazy rants? Time for you to move on.
    I haven’t addressed you or your pathetic attempts at relevance for over a month. That you dig into the archives of old forums to revise your supercilious tirades and proclamations speaks to your limitations regarding current and relevant commentary. Time for you to bury your past sins and move forward.

    “Go ahead, tell more lies about me, a person you’ve never met and do not begin to understand, no matter what deceitful, sleazy, stupid claims you make about me.”

    Time to take your own medicine.
    Grizzley is a surname. Do I make fun of you for having a girl’s given name as a last name? No, I don’t. But you continue to malign me. Would you like me to expound on the derivation of YOUR last name? tiffany: a thin guaze-like dress worn on Twelfth Night, from the Old French tifanie. Even YOU spell your name wrong!
    As I said above A MONTH AGO, “Your other MO is running when you’ve been bested and exposed as the liar and hypocrite that you are.” Apparently it takes time for you to formulate a cogent response, and yet you failed to refute my statements after all this time. You merely reinforced and validated my statement.
    You persist in resurrecting old battles that you’ve fought and lost. Time for you to lay down the swords of your malcontent and move on.

  • AdamAnt

    100 percent pure fertilizer. Anyone putting stock in what you have to say is foolish or uneducated.

  • AdamAnt

    You are the one lacking brilliance here.

  • AdamAnt

    You sir are a stupid, stupid liar. No one believes you line of idiocy here – and you are the only one who fails to recognize that fact.

  • AdamAnt

    You have been proven a spreader of falsehoods many times over. Why don’t you go to some liberal site where they all are as idiotic as you?

  • VindicatorX

    No one here is going backward except you. You keep on being a stupid dolt – it fits.

  • VindicatorX

    You and only you are dumb as a post. That’s because your IQ < 2 is all you have to work with.

  • VindicatorX

    You have never proven anything. That is a fact you can bank on.

  • Sandie

    It isn’t about regressing, You just don’t comprehend what it is about. It is beyond you because you have nos real vision or ability to see the bigger picture.

  • Sandie

    Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap,

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Jayne Nielsen was right; you’re deaf, dumb and blind.
    Mostly dumb. (I looked at the website. Yawn!)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    It’s really easy to see that you’re a racist. Racists refer to black men as “boys.” Racist follow racist propagandist like Beck, the race-baiter.

    BTW, becoming a “Guest.” It’s a great way to get away from you jerks when I’m not actually distracting you as “Victor Tiffany.” 

    Ooops, that strategy of yours has backfired! You have showed me the way to comment anywhere about anything without being attacked by a clique of fascist, childish flame warriors.

    Free at last! Free at last! Thank god almighty, I am free at last!

  • Anonymous

    I have been doing this for months and you’re just now catching on to it? We even talked about openly here and elsewhere, and you’re just now catching on to it? You are absolutely the dumbest, slowest, stupidest, retarded liberal progressive on the team. You’re a dunce, an imbecile, a dunderhead, birdbrain, blockhead, bonehead, buffoon, dimwit, dolt, donkey, dope, dork, drip, dullard, dunderhead, fool, goof, goof ball, half-wit, idiot, ignoramus, imbecile, jerk, knucklehead, lame-brain, lightweight, moron, nerd*, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, numskull, oaf, pinhead, scatterbrain, schnook, simpleton, twit.

    And the best part is that you just proved it by admitting how long it’s taken you to catch onto something that we openly talked about…

    You, Vicky Tot Tiffy, with an IQ so inferior to the average human, are so stupid you can’t even figure out how to use a simple comment system. Yet, you claim to be an intellectual, a scholar, a journalist. You’re a retard…

    My work here is finished…

  • Anonymous

    Oh, and three other things I forgot to mention…

    1) You’ll be anonymous: something you’ve criticized me for being. Which, means you are doubling down on hypocrisy.

    2) For those of us who know how, you’re comments can still be tracked. It’s not that hard, and it’s a standard feature of the Disqus interface. My bet is that it will take you more than two years to figure it out. You’ve been using this system just as long (if not longer) as most of us who oppose your particular brand of rhetoric. So, don’t be surprised if it isn’t as easy as you think to blend into the background.

    3) You won’t be able to promote yourself as you’ve been wont to do. That is a priceless result. The silence will be deafening.

    Oh, and one extra, 4) you’re still an idiot…

    Have a nice life little Vicky<2. Till we see you're buffoonery ulcerating once again.

  • Guest

    You realize when you guest yourself, you’ll have just as much difficulty responding to replies to your own cowardly guested comments, right?

    I don’t think your ego will allow yourself the freedom of anonymity from the masses you wish to market your rag review to. You are too conceited and narcissistic.

    But, we’ll see. Won’t we?

  • Guest

    You are good at parroting other peoples clever response because you have none of your own. you’re deaf, dumb and blind. Mostly dumb. (YAWN!) hahahahahahaha

  • Guest

    Not necessarily, racists refer to black men as niqqers, like you do behind closed doors. The word “boy” has many definitions and uses, and apparently your one track racist mind can only think of one. You make it into that use because you are a closet racist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Reactionary?

    MUCH!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Move on and just let Beck lie without criticism.

    That is what all good fascists want.

  • Guest

    Yet, isn’t that what you want?  For all of us to ignore you and just let you posts to go without criticism? For your lies to go without being challenged?
    *
    You are so stupid…

  • Guest

    It’s so funny how you never have a counter-argument. You seem to think responses like the one here is somehow a competent rebuttal. But, it’s not and you are stupid for thinking so…
    *
    As is always the case I will show how this is an applicable characterization of your intellect. An appropriate response to the comment would have included how it is reactionary, not just the claim that it is. But, since it can’t be shown as reactionary because it doesn’t reflect anything remotely close to what reactionary means, it is you who are stupid for trying to tie it in without any evidence.

  • AdamAnt

    What are you? Twelve? Why don’t you roll your eyes and go stomping from the room too?

  • AdamAnt

    Looks like you are the lying fascist here to me. You are always trying to accuse people of everything you yourself are guilty of being. Do you see the irony in your labels and accusations?

  • VindicatorX

    Freakin’ IDIOT MUCH?

  • VindicatorX

    Actually that is the best advice you have ever been given, but leave it to you to find something wrong with sensible action.

  • Anonymous

    And that is the reason you are exposed as the liar and contemptible character assassin you are. To let you continue your fascistic messaging without criticism would be unconscionable for any of the regular commenters here. You are that ‘good’ facist that you speak of, no doubt.

  • Guest

    Wonder why ol’ Vic didn’t take umbrage when Obozo referred to Marco Rubio as “your boy” to a Republican operative? Seems like lil Obozo can talk the talk, but not walk the walk. He’s every bit a racist as Vic…neither of them ‘get it’.

  • Anonymous

    You are the only one concerned about what Beck does and does not do. Thing is, your criticism is seldom about Beck. For the most part you criticize the people who refute your biased assumptions and indicate your lack of logical and cohesive rebuttals. You criticize other commenters for what appears to be the sado-masochistic joy you derive from your bully tactics.

    There comes a time in the events of one’s life when one should realize that his attempts to exact change, whether necessary or required, unnecessary or irrelevant, have become futile. Your attempts have not only been futile, but inept, as you have yet to come to that conclusion yourself. You may be convinced that your mission is productive and worthy of your considerable effort. But your message has fallen on deaf ears and is without merit. Perhaps it is the manner in which you convey your message. Perhaps it is that your message is flawed, which it is. Whatever the case may be, it IS past the time when your efforts can be called productive and worthwhile, especially in this forum.

    What you do in your own time and place is your business. The only reason you are here is to promote your rag review. One would think after all this time that you would have a substantial following, provided your message has engaged a number of like-minded individuals. That it hasn’t speaks volumes. Your methods will not convert the commenters here. Your reputation has limited your marketable
    prospects. You have overstayed your welcome here. Your mission is lost. Your unattainable goals have derailed your mission.

    Since I am not a fascist, it is up to you to tell us exactly what a “good fascist” would want, seeing that you are the ‘expert’ on fascism and fascists, as you have repeatedly proclaimed and called others. One would expect you to know whereof you speak. It appears that you don’t know exactly what fascism is, else you wouldn’t use the term so liberally without accuracy.

    It IS time for you to move on; it’s what fascists do… move on to less noble conquests, projecting their agenda on the unsuspecting masses. There’s no such thing as a good fascist, just a maniacal dictator bent on autocratic governance and forcible suppression of opposition…like YOU! Exactly like YOU!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    As usual, you’re lying about how I refer to blacks. You’re probably one of the reactionary morons who falsely accuse me of “lying,” of being “stupid,” and of any number of the lies you tell about me.

    In other words, typical reactionary: ignore the message (Jefferson was extremely progressive which is why FDR pushed the construction of his memorial) and attack the messenger.

    SOS;DD.  ZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZ….

    The courts have decided that calling a black man “boy” is racist. I’ve known this long ago, and that’s why I realized that Benny was a racist as soon as he let that slip out.

    Obviously, it’s not hard to find racist comments on this web site: Glenn Beck race-baits the President routinely, and that makes Glenn Beck a racist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    I other words I have to keep my eye on the pages or ignore the responses. Guess what dillweed: that same holds true when I comment using Facebook mode, which is what I’m doing when I post as Victor Tiffany. I don’t get notices of replies: I have to keep coming back to punch back after one from your clique of fascist friends attacks me personally. Like you did when you falsely called me conceited and narcissistic. Both are lies that you tell about me because you’re a reactionary. Reactionaries do not have the wherewithall to address and debate issues (or admit when someone on the left is right), so you attack personally, always deceitfully, in your knee jerk manner. You don’t know my ego; you are clueless. That contributes to being a Beckerhead. If you don’t know Beck is making up new realities, then you don’t realize how deceitful he is. Ignorance and following Beck go hand in hand.

    Actually, you won’t see. That’s the point. I’m liberated from your sleazy, stupid and childish flame war

    OR…. I’m really just sending you on a wild goose chase looking around for Guest linking to The Glenn Beck Review. Look! Over there. No, here. I think I see a link over there.

    LOL: Say goodbye. I will not miss your sleazy, stupid childish flame war.

    Silly adult: flame wars are for kids.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    No, it’s not the anonymity that I criticize you for, which means that you really don’t have good reading comprehension.

    That means that you really are projecting your low IQ onto me when you insult my IQ (and you’re lying about me as usual).

    I doubt you’ll find me, but look. Look high and low. Spend hours looking for Guest comments that you see linked to The Glenn Beck Review. Take all the time you want; you may just be wasting your time, or not. 

    I don’t EVER promote myself, so once again you are lying. Lying is your forte, isn’t it Benny the racist. Lying and racism: No wonder you’re such a huge fan of Glenn Beck.

    You’ve never seem my “buffoonery;” you’re just too stupid to recognize that I’m right about your hero: Glenn Beck lies. I have several examples, and you know on some level that I’m right. Glenn Beck is a serial hypocrite. You may have your mind shut down to that reality, but that only reinforces what I’ve just written: you’re not very bright, and you’re ethically challenged.

    Beck is a reactionary propagandist. There never is any debate about this: you know it; I know it, and thanks to people at The Glenn Beck Report, News Corpse, News Hounds, etc., many other people understand this about your uneducated, deceitful hero who routinely spews utter nonsense (as William Kristol has pointed out) that you’re too freaking STUPID to understand as nonsense. You’re one of the morons who think that Beck is conveying “special” information? It’s special alright: it’s FICTION!

    Stupid people don’t grasp this about Beck’s propaganda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    No one will ever accuse you of behaving like a mature adult, but that is not surprising: you’re a Beckerhead. Beck is for children, people who want to be entertained, not informed.

    Someday, when you grow up (LOL; that may not happen), you’ll see how stupid your personal attacks are. You don’t know my IQ, but thanks for yet another example of reactionary retort: ignore the message and attack the messenger with lies and personal attacks.

    You are far superior to me in one category: name-calling. In other words, you’re a typical reactionary too stupid to actually address the message: Glenn Beck is a reactionary propagandist fooling some of the people (you!) all of the time. Suck on that fact while you surf the Internet looking for a ghost in the machine.

  • AdamAnt

    You really have an obsession with sucking on things. That could be an indication you have a problem with sucking.

    Of course, most of us were able to determine that years ago when you first started that insipid blog of yours.

  • AdamAnt

    You really have been an ignorant fool. Let’s hope you find a way to discontinue that practice.

    Project all you want to, everyone knows you are a class A nut job.

  • AdamAnt

    …..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • AdamAnt

    No message or messenger here – just a flaming idiot, namely you.

  • AdamAnt

    Do you see the irony in your championing the President, when you are a fat old bald white guy who bears a striking resemblance to Rush Limbaugh?
    I do, and it is hilarious in view of your prejudices and practices. You are the guy who likes to call people names and condescend from your imaginary place of superiority, so how do you rationalize acting better than everyone else and yet being such a flawed individual? The inside of your head must be one crazy, mixed up and confusing place.
    Your continual projection of self loathing isn’t attractive, and all that anti Beck garbage is like a tumor eating away at your soul. You simply can’t stop yourself even as it takes you down.
    Pity.

  • AdamAnt

    Lies in your reply that I am replying to:

    “That means that you really are projecting your low IQ onto me when you insult my IQ”

    Talk about circular reasoning – WOW! That wouldn’t make sense to anyone but you.

    “I don’t EVER promote myself”

    You do nothing but promote yourself! Evidence: the ever-present links to your inane blog about your inability to cope with the existence of Glenn Beck.

    “You’ve never seem my “buffoonery;”

    This looks like a good example to me – I have never seen anyone deliver more buffoonery than you – and the typo was priceless!

    “I’m right about your hero”

    You have never succeeded in hanging that “hero” on anyone; you think you have, but your efforts have fallen far short of proof.

    “you’re not very bright, and you’re ethically challenged.”

    On the contrary, the people who criticize you are very bright indeed because they can see the idiot behind the curtain. You are that idiot.

    “Beck is a reactionary propagandist. There never is any debate about this: you know it; I know it, and thanks to people at The Glenn Beck Report, News Corpse, News Hounds, etc.,”

    How do the opinions of so many leftists who say the same crap prove your assertion? Just be honest for once in your life, or are you plainly incapable of anything but distortions, lies and foolishness?

    All subjective judgments from your own making. The fact is you rarely tell the truth about anything because the truth is not your friend. Shall we explore the fantastic lies you have arrayed before us in the past? I really don’t think you, of all people, wants to go there.

  • AdamAnt

    I think we all know who the goat in the machine is, Victor. 
    You are.
     
    You’re openly hostile to anyone who opposes your microscopic view. No big news there. You can’t see the ‘tude you project to the world, but the rest of us do. You’ve got a big self image problem in that you somehow acquired the idea that you are more important than anyone else, but here’s a news flash for you – you are one of Billions served. You are just another libtard with an egomania issue who thinks it is cool to shout down people and make an ass of yourself in public. Your ignorance is underwhelming. 

    Someday you are going to run across somebody who won’t tolerate your crap, and that person is going to deck you, which is a reality check for you that is apparently long over due. 

    Going around trying to intimidate people and calling them names because you think you are entitled to is what you do here every day. Frankly, you are becoming a bit tiresome, and I hope that the moderator finally gets tired of your divisive, and incessant bull crap and cuts your access off.  That isn’t because I despise you or dissent, but because you are a bitter malcontent and we have all seen enough of your crap already.

  • AdamAnt

    Obviously, among your many fixations, looking for racism where none exists is another area where you excel. Why don’t you attend a New Black Panther Party meeting and see what kind of racism you can find there?

    I am certain that the folks there will help broaden the horizons of your racism studies. Be sure to fill us in with a report of what you find, Okay?

  • AdamAnt

    You could just take the hits like a man. There really is no need to come back and throw a haymaker at the wind.

    You are conceited and narcissistic, that is no lie. Anyone who reads your idiotic musings can see it for themselves.

    The fascist here is you. You are a green nazi, a liberal nazi, and an idiocy nazi propagandist. If it’s crazy, destructive, dysfunctional, or just a lie there you are promoting the destruction of your own home.

    You are an egomaniac, everyone can see it in how you write and attack everything and everyone you don’t agree with. What the hell is new realities? You really are becoming the king of delusional thought.

    You aren’t smart enough to just go away, so all this, “That’s the point. I’m liberated from your sleazy, stupid and childish flame war”, stuff is just so much caterwauling intended to distract from the fact that you lack the humility to take your lumps and move on.

    You are just too damned stupid to leave. That’s the point you fail to see.

  • Guest

    More of your incessant non-sense. If you’re using Facebook to post to Disqus you’re an idiot…
    *And just because you do use Facebook to post to Disqus doesn’t mean you can’t get notices… You’re an idiot…*You are conceited and narcissistic, thanks for pointing it out. But, I never claimed as much. Remember, I am not a licensed mental health practitioner… All I can do is listen to someone who is make that kind of assessment. Guess what, there is a licensed mental health practitioner who thinks you are narcissistic and conceited.
    *
    Why do always threaten people with physical violence? I think I need to file a police report because you said you are going to punch me…
    *
    You don’t know what a reactionary is…
    *
    You’re ego is spread all over these discussion boards, youtube, and the DSA website, not to mention your own little rag…
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    You really are stupid for claiming someone attacks you personally and then turn around and use terms like Beckerhead… Let me clue you in on what a personal attack is, you are fat, and ugly, and look funny, and smell bad, your portrait looks crazy, and you’re an libtard. Those are personal. Saying you are stupid and whiny when you are being stupid and whiny is justified. It’s an assessment of your intellect and character after you have demonstrated those traits…
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    You make up realities all the time. Why won’t you answer my challenge about the second inaugural address? You made up a reality that Beck never touched it, yet you know he would have been charged with a crime of stealing it and not just a plastic box if he had left with it, wouldn’t he? It’s like battery( of which I am sure you will be eventually charged), if you intentionally hit someone else while they are in another car the act of battery is transferred. And I am sure you would apply that same logic to something you had in a plastic case if someone grabbed the case with your valuables in it… This is an example of your haymaking.
    *
    And you have no idea how easy it is to follow you… It’s evident that, even after all this time, you still don’t know how to use this commenting system.
    *
    Thus, my assessment of you is that you are stupid…

  • Anonymous

    Democrats have a long history of belonging to organizations that hate black people. Didn’t you know that? 
    *
    And when did you make a point about Jefferson that was relevant to this post? You’re lying again…
    *
    The courts have decided it’s not always benign. Can’t you get anything right?
    *
    You’re the race-baiter. You’re always the one bringing it up. It’s like the time one black kid was picking on another black kid and I stepped in to intervene. Black kid A accused me of racism then too… You and him are race-baiters… And you are stupid… Stupid, as in really stupid…

  • Anonymous

    the list of lies you’re telling in this post alone:
    *
    #1 You lie about criticizing me for anonymity. You’ve been doing that for years now… And I can prove it…
    *
    #2 Reading comprehension is your problem, not mine. I understand exactly what you mean.
    *
    #3 My IQ is way beyond anything you could ever hope for… Have you ever been tested? I have… Mine is bigger than yours… But, so is everyone else’s… HAHAHAHAHAHA…
    *
    #4 Finding you is easy. Let’s see, there are at least another 6 comments you have posted since you left this one that I have already responded to this evening. You are stupid…
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    #5 You promote yourself everywhere you comment, and have been doing so ever since the get go in August 2010.
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    #6 I haven’t lied about anything.
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    #7 I am not a huge fan of Glenn Beck
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    #8 You never “seem [sic]” my buffonery. See #3

    #9 I have hundreds of examples of your lies and the list just keeps getting longer as I add more and more to it right here in this response to your “I never lie” reply.
    *
    #10 You know on some level that I am right? What, do you mean on a carpenters level, a storey in a building, sea level, an equalizer level? You know, it’s imprecise language like this that gets you into trouble.
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    #11 Talk about serial hypocrite…You wrote the book on it.
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    #12 Ethics, you who will tell lie after lie, half-truth after half-truth, and make threat after threat think I am ethically challenged? You’ll need to cite examples to make that one stick.
    *
    #13 When did I ever say anything about what Beck is saying other than to point out where you make mistakes on assessment and tell lies? It’s just like the one about Ryan’s eliminating of Pell Grants. You lied like an old dog on that one just the other day. Your “boys” over at Politifact even say so. You are a liar…
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    #14 You are stupid because you don’t have anywhere to go to back up anything you’re saying about me at all…
    *
    You’re an idiot…

  • Guest

    More of your incessant non-sense. If you’re using Facebook to post to Disqus you’re an idiot…
    *And just because you do use Facebook to post to Disqus doesn’t mean you can’t get notices… You’re an idiot…*You are conceited and narcissistic, thanks for pointing it out. But, I never claimed as much. Remember, I am not a licensed mental health practitioner… All I can do is listen to someone who is make that kind of assessment. Guess what, there is a licensed mental health practitioner who thinks you are narcissistic and conceited.
    *
    Why do always threaten people with physical violence? I think I need to file a police report because you said you are going to punch me…
    *
    You don’t know what a reactionary is…
    *
    You’re ego is spread all over these discussion boards, youtube, and the DSA website, not to mention your own little rag…
    *
    You really are stupid for claiming someone attacks you personally and then turn around and use terms like Beckerhead… Let me clue you in on what a personal attack is, you are fat, and ugly, and look funny, and smell bad, your portrait looks crazy, and you’re an libtard. Those are personal. Saying you are stupid and whiny when you are being stupid and whiny is justified. It’s an assessment of your intellect and character after you have demonstrated those traits…
    *
    You make up realities all the time. Why won’t you answer my challenge about the second inaugural address? You made up a reality that Beck never touched it, yet you know he would have been charged with a crime of stealing it and not just a plastic box if he had left with it, wouldn’t he? It’s like battery( of which I am sure you will be eventually charged), if you intentionally hit someone else while they are in another car the act of battery is transferred. And I am sure you would apply that same logic to something you had in a plastic case if someone grabbed the case with your valuables in it… This is an example of your haymaking.
    *
    And you have no idea how easy it is to follow you… It’s evident that, even after all this time, you still don’t know how to use this commenting system.
    *
    Thus, my assessment of you is that you are stupid…

  • Guest

    B.Obummer referred to Marco Rubio as “your boy”. How does that fit in with your biased assimilation and convoluted logic? You and any number of people who were awake and alert during the 50′s and 60′s have known that within a racial context “boy” is racist. Outside of the racist context, it is merely what a male child is called. As for the large number of racist comments on this site: MOST OF THEM ARE YOURS!

  • Sandie

    To use Victor’s term … Victor is a ‘projectionist’.

  • Sandie

    Amen.

  • Guest

    Such convoluted logic. You are so tied to this game you are playing that you can’t let go. It is an addiction for you, an obsession. You only wish that you were sending me on a wild goose chase, especially since you’ve been chasing your tail for so long, your ass is firmly imprinted on your face. This silly flame war is of YOUR making, which as logic would have it, makes you the child. Who is the silly adult playing your games? That would be you: a child dressed up in man-clothes. He who laughs last, laughs best. So laugh your head off now while you are basking in the glory of your ignorance. When it dawns on you that you are the joke, you won’t be laughing for long. But I will. Good-by. Glad you are leaving…FINALLY! No one will miss you and your ignorant comments, childish name-calling and adolescent bullying.

  • Guest

    You have blatantly lied and are so self-deluded, you don’t know which end is up. Do you honestly think that you can deny all your frivolous antics up to this point and pass them off as a problem with reading comprehension? You have got to be the world’s most thick-headed moron. Anyone who has been on these forums for the past three years is familiar with your endless bullshit, lies, delusions and fabricated proclamations. You seriously need help. Earth to Victor: EVERYONE HAS SEEN YOUR BUFFOONERY! You’re just too stupid to realize that you’ve exposed yourself here. Wake up and smell the coffee. Your 15 minutes of fame ended last winter when the Ithaca Occupiers you spear-headed were moved to the Church parking lot and your 3rd grade reading of “corporations are not people” ended with a dull thud for lack of enthusiasm. You aren’t fooling anyone here. Just yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Your words: “You are far superior to me in one category: name-calling. In other words, you’re a typical reactionary too stupid to actually address the message…” LMAO You just implied that you do not indulge in ‘name-calling’…that others are your superior in that category. AND THEN you turn around and call names!!! THAT is why you are a hypocrite and too stupid for words.

  • Sandie

    ” Glenn Beck race-baits the President routinely, and that makes Glenn Beck a racist.”
    Victor does the same thing to posters at Becks site (and elsewhere) so that makes Victor a racist.

    “ZZZZzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZ” – thats right , blow it out yer azz

  • Sandie

    You aren’t liberated from anything. You are obsessed with Beck and with the people you have labelled as “Beckerheads”. You can’t go cold turkey and there is no drug that will break your addiction.

  • Sandie

    “..ignore the message and attack the messenger with lies and personal attacks.” LOL and then that is exactly what you did as you continued your post, and what you do in any other posts you make on Beck’s site.

  • Sandie

    Yeah, HE SUCKS

  • Sandie

    Excellent idea!

  • AdamAnt

    Then I hope he enjoys the show – he should get an eyeful from up in that booth.

    I wonder if his wooly friend is up there too?

  • AdamAnt

    I find his sort of display projectionable.

  • Guest

    The shadows told the whole story.