Why is Paul Ryan easy to defend?

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On GBTV Monday night, Glenn took a look at all the criticisms being thrown at Romney’s pick VP Paul Ryan and reached one very clear conclusion: Paul Ryan is an easy nominee to defend. While many are jumping to label him as “extreme” in order to scare people into voting for four more years of progressivism, the truth is that the “extreme” nature of his stance on policy is just his willingness to tell the truth about the problems facing America and the solutions.

“Ryan’s is the first budget proposal that actually deals seriously with coming economic Armageddon we are facing,” Glenn said. “Instead of making whimsical promises of a ‘green economy’ saving the day, or believing that we need to spend more to reduce the deficit – as Joe Bidenhas said – Ryan’s plan actually addresses bloated government agencies and reduces spending by more than $5 trillion over 10 years.”

Ryan has also come under fire as “the end of Medicare as we know it.”

“Ryan’s plan does not destroy Medicare. But doing nothing will destroy it. And certainly stealing $700 billion from it to spend on different Obamacare functions will too,” Glenn said.

Stu tackled this attack in his latest Stu Blog HERE.

Glenn explained that while Medicare currently deems which services are covered and what price the government will pay for coverage, Ryan’s plan puts control back in control of the market and the consumer by determining the total amount of money for beneficiaries to spend on their own private insurance.

When tested, the Ryan approach has actually been more successful.

“The Ryan approach actually reduced spending by nearly 10% in a single year, while still providing seniors with the same comprehensive insurance coverage,” Glenn explained.

The biggest danger to Medicare is Obama, who is doing nothing to prevent the upcoming entitlement train wreck.

Glenn continued into the attacks on Ryan that he wants to take away birth control and women’s rights. This comes from his support of the Sanctity of Human Rights Act, which would have defined human life as beginning at conception. There was no mention of going after birth control at all – that’s all fear mongering and lies.

“Here is why they are really on the attack – because there’s more to Ryan than just his budget plan. He’s young, he’s bright, and he can defend his positions extremely well. He’s already gone toe to toe with Geithner, Biden, and Obama himself and come out shining every time,” Glenn said.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Ryan is a true threat to the dominance of the Progressives and the Democrats; they see him as the true threat, and in combination with Romney, their reign of terror is soon to end. That is why they are so desperate as to proclaim lately (about two weeks ago), that they (the Democrats) will see the economy to collapse before handing power over to the Republicans.

    Most deem it rhetoric, I take them at their word.

    Ryan and Romney, the new turning point we need to begin turning the entire progressive century of chaos and enslavement around and set the nation right and free again in the Republic she is meant to be.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YXHAPK3XUPT7P4B7R4DJKSNK4Q J

    Let me get this right.

    Ryan is a fiscal conservative?

    He voted for the Bank Bailout, the Largest Medicare Expansion Program in History—-in 2006, He voted for the Bridge to Nowhere, and suddenly he’s Romney’s point man on how to control government spending?

    Seriously?

    LOL LOL

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YXHAPK3XUPT7P4B7R4DJKSNK4Q J

    I see your drinking Beck’s Kool-Aid.

    Ryan voted FOR the Bank Bailout, he voted for GWB’s Medicare Expansion in 2006, and he voted for the Bridge to Nowhere.  

    Do me a favor, try and explain how a “fiscal conservative” could vote for any of those programs?

  • Anonymous

    Ryan is extremely easy to defend if you are a bigoted millionaire like beck!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/sfcrartyl Arty Love

    great video. easy learning how to talk points with the left.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sfcrartyl Arty Love

    great video. easy learning how to talk points with the left

  • SoThere

    Folks, strtlk is the face of the liberal progressive liars in this country.  He is the reason for real change.

    Save America, vote Conservative.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YXHAPK3XUPT7P4B7R4DJKSNK4Q J

    I’m a conservative, and I agree with strtlk.

    Ryan is not conservative.    He is a career politician who thinks it is politically advantageous for him to SOUND like a conservative.

    How can anyone believe Ryan is conservative when you examine his voting record?

    Funded the banks for the bailout, expanded medicare in 2006, and funded the bridge to nowhere.

    He is as conservative as Barack Obama.

  • Anonymous

    Congressman Ryan is a poltician.  No doubt about it.  Everyone plays the game.  And, yet, Ryan is the politician on the Republican side of the aisle who is least full of [insert adjective here].  He says what he means and means what he says.  In every interview I have seen him in (be it FOX, CNN, or MSNBC), he is always straightforward and tells you the truth, not the answer you want to hear.  

    Ryan as VP is a much needed shot in the arm for Governor Romney, but a shot in the arm ain’t enough.  Romney is ultimately the Presidential candidate, not Ryan, so it is Romney that needs to use the momentum and take it from there.  I understand Romney’s a good man and can wow a person one-on-one or in a small crowd, but guess what?  A campaign is not comprised of one-on-one chats or small groups.  This is where Romney needs to put the courage in his sticking place and fight hard.  Not dirty, but hard…  There is a difference.

  • sparducks

     Your a full of sh** progressive liar. Go home to msnbc.

  • sparducks

     You are a clown.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YXHAPK3XUPT7P4B7R4DJKSNK4Q J

    Okay.

    Answer me these questions.

    Did Ryan vote for Bush’s Medicare Expansion Act in 2006?

    Did Ryan vote for the Bank Bailouts?

    Did Ryan vote for the Bridge to Nowhere?

    I doubt you will come back here and answer those questions honestly.

    You will hide like the coward I suspect you are.

  • Anonymous

    idiot-in-chief has had 4 years…its time for a change…thats all that needs to be said!

  • Anonymous

     So why did he vote for the Iraq war, for Medicare part D, for Tarp, for the auto bailout and a 200 billion dollar stimulus?

  • Anonymous

    I’m voting for Gary Johnson. Obama will win this election and then we can start over in 2016 with Rand Paul. And if that doesn’t work then let the whole thing crash for all I care.

  • Anonymous

     I’m with on Rand Paul 2016 but wanting to let Obama win this election and “let the whole thing crash for all I care”?

    You are no libertarian or conservative. You can not claim to care for our constitution and then damn it to hell. We are only starting to gain power in our liberty movement.

    Romney may not be one of us but hopeful he will slow the bleed on.

    Do truly think or believe that our crash will not happen during Obama’s second administration if re-elected? Obama unlike anyone has proven to reach around all checks and balances and pass law through executive order. And with all of media and all of entertainment industry backing/supporting him giving the most powerful arms of propaganda in of the (supposedly)Free World.

     

  • Anonymous

    You have a problem with all people telling the truth? Or just not your candidate?

    Cripes, he does have a public record, get a grip, sparducks.

  • Anonymous

    The only movement that is going on is the Noe-Conservvative Co-opt of the libertarian movement.

    Don’t you understand, these people like Ryan and Romney and their friends in the media like Bill Kristol and the like hate individualism. They believe that individualism leads to nihilism, and that nihilism leads to moral relativism. They believe that moral relativism leads one to question everything, that it creates a system where there is no truth and that everything is permitted. They believe that a nation is merely a random border and set of people that the real nation is a narrative that it is a moral code and a destiny that binds us together. Individualism cannot be allowed in their system because individualism to their minds means the people will begin to question everything including the moral code and narrative that is a nation.

    They want power so they create stories, they create narratives like this country has a destiny to fight evil around the world. They find boogey men and monsters to slay like Iran, Iraq, Al Qaeda and more.

    These people do not believe in us they want to be our leaders, they believe in power.

    Obama, Romney…… Who cares.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Revan

    Like I keep saying you can’t trust people who made this
    their life to do the right thing.  This
    is like 2008 all over again with no choice at all but people are blind to this.
    We had so many other picks better picks but instead of voting for them we get
    the same guy who gave us Romney care that modeled it after Obama care. How can
    these people be so blind to the truth the guy is going to screw us over on
    health care just like Chief Justice John Roberts did. 

  • http://twitter.com/JJFrancesco Jonathan Francesco

    I honestly think all of the people who are hating on Ryan for not being conservative enough are themselves not conservative enough. lol If people are going to sit by and let Obama be re-elected because they’re spending all day nitpicking the records of his opponents, then they’re essentially doing Obama’s bidding. I didn’t pick Romney for the primary, but if I didn’t vote for him, I’d have absolutely no room to be upset at anything Obama does.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5IZLX4LGD6IMP7EAXGE5TZ3CPU RightWing4Ever

    If that POS obama wins there won’t be an election in 2016, know that!!!    I’m already holding my breath on this years election happening.   With “desperate times…” and “never let a crisis go to waste” …running the show, anything to stay in power is possible.
    Ron Paul should be Sec. of Treasury…period!!!   That would be the most logical and purposeful position for him, and he could be most powerful!!!
       Garry Johnson is a “nice guy”= “easy target” in the theater he would enter, and with very little support if any in Washington, he would never be able to get anything done.
    If obastard wins because of a bunch of liberal acting, Ron Paulbots…Paul and all his supporters will be considered the enemy of this country, by the majority conservatives…and he will never have a chance to help the recovery, so just think about that when you are marking that little box.

  • SoThere

    You’re no more a Conservative than Obama is. Nice try.

  • Anonymous

    Is the 200 billion dollar stimulas the one Bush gave in 2007-2008 before the previous election knowing the economy was going to collapse For John Mcain if he didn’t give handouts.  It did anyway, and Mcain had no chance, do to the horrific spending of the Bush Adminstration.  More Tax cuts for corporations and people making over 250 million!!!   It should work

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Maxine-Funk/100000504126191 Maxine Funk

    Wahoo, so glad to hear that Paul Ryan is going to be easy to defend. The Democratic city I live ‘near’ finally announced today that the city’s have 1 in 3 people in poverty, the first time in years.
    Now, folks are asking why this hasn’t been noted during a local election year? Why do you suppose that is? Could it be that we have had a Democratic government for the pass 30+ years. Now that I’ve rambled, ah forgive me. I applaud, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney & Glenn Beck

  • Anonymous

    A vote for Romney/Obama is a vote for government take over of the people, They are both tied up deep with lobbyist, billionaires, former Politricktions, Fighting endless wars why not sure. All while confusing the American people to fight with each other over politcal lines.  The people should unite against all the rich dominately white men, to stop them from becoming even more wealthy, strip our civil liberties, and cause religious wars on the other side of the Earth to distract us.  
      I respect my hard working father that built a business from nothing while creating lasting jobs.  I understand why he is a true conservative republican.  Fiscal responsibility and conservative family values.  
      Its the way it use to be,  Pre George Bush, my father doesn’t see how George Bush increased the deficit, with wars, stimulas packages before election, auto baiout, Tarp, no child left behind,  etc etc.  Obama took Bushs plan and expanded.  They all the same to me.

    Solution vote libertarian, vote RON Paul, vote green party, show you dont buy the democrats or republicans Koolaid.  
    Your real vote is how you spend your money

  • Stephan Bruno

    Instead of talking about the bullshit why don’t you talk about this Glenn?  

    http://thegrio.com/2012/08/14/father-killed-by-off-duty-cop-who-ran-over-his-daughter/

  • landofaahs

    Ryan is as good a pick as anyone I guess.  His proposals just trim around the edges and is not radical at all.  In fact it does not go near far enough.  But to democrats, a slowing of massive growth in federal spending is a radical cut in what they would like to spend.
    I plan on voting for R&R, but I’m still planning as though the collapse is coming because it is.  Our country does not have what it takes “YET”.  Only when the collapse comes will the metal be ready for the makers hands.

  • http://twitter.com/SaraMCraig1 Sara M. Craig

    the new turning point we need to begin turning the entire progressive century of chaos and enslavement around and set the nation right and free again in the Republic she is meant to be. http://HoursEnjoyMoneys.blogspot.com

  • Anonymous

     I’m still going to vote for Gary Johnson. I really don’t care what conservatives think of me. I’m a libertarian not a conservative, unlike conservatives I actually believe in freedom and the individual. I don’t feel the need to tell other people what they can or can’t put in their bodies or who they can marry and who they can’t. I don’t need America to have a destiny or some other made up narrative to make myself feel important or that I have a place in the world. So to me if Obama wins it doesn’t mean Romney lost it means Gary Johnson lost.

    But feel free to vote for the guy who voted for the Iraq war, who voted for the 12 trillion dollar TARP program, who voted for the auto bailout, who voted for a 200 billion dollar stimulus, who voted to extend and empower the patriot act and who supports the indefinite detention of american citizens without charge or trial.

    See conservatives don’t believe in personal freedom and democrats don’t believe in economic freedoms, so basically I am just going to sit back and watch you two destroy this country piece by piece.

  • Anonymous

     Yes that it is the bailout I’m talking about and I’m pretty sure he would have voted for the next one in 2009 if we’ve had a President John McCain.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000034018262 Maggie Woolsey-Reiss

     If you vote third party you are voting for Obama. Simple. and you probably wil never be able to vote again. Ever!!!

  • Anonymous

    Ryan is awful, anyone who wants to hack away at programs for the poor and seniors while lowering Romney’s tax rates to near 0 (through elimination of the capital gains tax) is completely wrong for this nation.

  • Anonymous

    Won’t be an election in 2016? That’s just stupid. Conspiracy theorists like yourself do a disservice to thoughtful and reasonable conservatives?

  • Anonymous

    Just like the past with Perot, those who vote third party are really, underneath it all, subservants of the Obama voting section.  Sorry–but that’s reality.  No way in hell can Ron Paul win..and he would be the first to say so.  I agree that he should be appointed Secretary of the Treasury or head of the Fed..but President?? ‘way too radical for average, well-educated Conservatives.

  • Anonymous

     What a crock.  You lessor of two evils folks continually go down the same path.  You put your lessor evil in, then the other’s evil gets in, you whine and complain, then you once again put your lessor evil in.  This goes on and on and on, always voting for the lessor of 2 evils, but nothing changes because it is always the evil that is voted into office.

    How many of you complained about the big bailouts?  Ryan voted for them.  How many of you complained about the NDAA (is Ryan easy to defend now, Mr. Beck) Ryan voted for it. 

    Perhaps it is time for you all to get your heads out of the sand, look around and vote for those who TRULY care about America.  But I think you all will continue your lockstep over the cliff.

  • http://twitter.com/912Communique Patriots

     
    Please know that a third party vote is a vote for obummer…While I am concerned about the outcome of this election- I am MORE concerned about the possibilities of there NOT being an election! Period!

    My scenario…

    Somewhere around mid to late October the Trayvon
    Martin case will have some news… whether this causes REAL Rioting or
    NOT there will be supposed rioting. Enough to call for Marshall Law…

    With
    Highways closed… cities surrounded by Military letting nothing
    enter… people will turn on one another when supplies run out… Your
    30-90 day supply of meds will run out… if the power is off… and most
    likely will eventually be – even worse…

    They don’t have to do anything but restrict ALL travel on roads…. period… end of scenario…

    I’m not usually hysterical and I don’ t usually put too much credit in Canada Free press but read this… http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/
    (courtesy of FStucky)
    (That’s why I don’t talk about my scenario very much!) Read more: http://www.912communique.com/page/vent-37-1#ixzz23Yfu8Yn0

  • greywolfrs

    A third party vote is a vote for that person ALONE. No amount of spin is going to change that, so stop the B S. In fact, since I live in CA, I am doing everything I can to get the Independents and Democraps I know to vote for a third party. That would deny both sides critical electoral votes.

  • greywolfrs

    Hack away programs for the poor and elderly? What program is he hacking at for the Elderly? Oh, my bad, you are another misinformed left wing moron, imagine that.

  • greywolfrs

    Stop with the B S, a vote for a third party is just that, it’s NOT a vote for someone else. Keep trying to spin it, logical thinking people realize it is B S.

    Ron Paul is radical? Then I guess the Founders were “radical,” because they did things EXACTLY the way Ron Paul is talking about. By the way, that would be the epitome of Conservative…

  • greywolfrs

    That is an outright lie, all you people who are trying to spin it as a vote for Obamao are dumber than a bag of hammers. You vote for the “lesser of two evils” and act as if anyone who does not fall into line is the enemy. In reality, you are the problem.

  • greywolfrs

    Man, you are one dumb M F er. The Neo-conservative movement is co-opting the Republicans, not the Libertarians.

    It’s better to keep one’s mouth shut and be thought a fool, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

  • greywolfrs

    Since you are an experienced bigot, I guess you would know one when you see it, sticky chin the coward.

  • greywolfrs

    Where your points may be valid, agreeing with sticky chin is not going to help your cause.

  • Anonymous

    why is Ryan “extreme” ??

    i would guess because he stands for fiscal responsibillity,yeah that must be it,cuz with Queen Nancy it is pay as you go politic’s

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, why don’t you look at the big picture, instead of your little nothing story you think everyone should care about. If that idiot didn’t attack and assault someone for an accident, he might not be dead. If you think that cop had no right defend himself, you could not be more wrong.

    P.S. I see you took down the picture of your fat ass, so much for calling the tea party fat…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jayne-Nielsen/100000024501720 Jayne Nielsen

    The Demwits are afraid of Paul Ryan for the simple fact that HE IS MUCH SMARTER THAN ANY SINGLE DEMOCRAT when it comes to the economy and especially the budget.  If you haven’t seen the video where Paul Ryan tears apart Obamacare in six minutes, the look of disdain on Obama’s face is priceless. 

    Because Obama isn’t able to defend his position or debate Paul Ryan on these issues makes the Demwits wonder if anyone can.  

    Paul Ryan is savvy, witty, can think on his feet, and has openly challenged Obama.  He is someone the Democrats can’t debate and his Liberal collegues have to be very careful about personally attacking him because THAT will tactic will backfire and will have a major backlash in Washington D.C. 

    I am looking forward to October 11.  That’s when Paul Ryan debates Joe Biden. 

  • greywolfrs

    Here we go again, TARP was 200 billion, not the stimulus. The Stimulus was over 700 billion. The Auto Bailout was part of the Stimulus, if one voted for the stimulus, they voted for the auto bailout. They are one in  the same, stop speaking as if they are two separate things. You really should get educated on this stuff before spewing this B S. All you are doing is proving that you don’t have the first clue about which you speak.

  • Anonymous

    Medicare and Social Security, seeing as those are the programs that, along with Medicaid, make up the majority of his deficit reduction plan. Not my fault you conservatives are too stupid to figure out how addition and subtraction work.

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, the cut to Medicare was a reduction is WASTE, not actual benefits. The 642 billion dollar cut was to Medicaid, not Medicare. It’s too bad you obviously don’t have the first fucking clue about which you speak, typical left wing moron.

  • Anonymous

    speaking of Obamacare,since it has the mandate,that you have to buy Healthinsurance,what about those people that do NOT want to buy it and instead pay the doctor cash,avoiding the insurance “middlemen” and burocrates all together,do they stil get “fined” with the tax ??

  • Anonymous

    Glen, your statement “Ryan’s plan actually addresses bloated government agencies and reduces spending by more than $5 trillion over 10 years.” is just not true.
    Go to S-1 (appendix) of his plan here http://budget.house.gov/fy2012budget/

    Ryan adds $5.1 Trillion to the national debt over 10 years. He doesn’t balance the budget until 2040, so the national debt continues to rise until that year. He may be reducing spending off that god awful “baseline” budget, but haven’t you learned by now that is not reducing ACTUAL spending?

    Ryan does spend slightly less than Obama, but he is also predicting more revenue which maybe too rosy of a projection – we’ll see.

    If we think a $16 Trillion national debt is heading off a financial cliff. Why do we cheer at a $23 Trillion projected debt in 2021? I just don’t get it. We can do a LOT BETTER.

  • greywolfrs

    Yes and I will NOT comply, on either count.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, and your dumb candidate doesn’t realize that the waste reduction cut to Medicare is the same cut Romney just attacked Obama for because Obama has it in Obamacare. What I am criticizing when it comes to Medicare is Ryans’ second step of turning it into a voucher program that leaves future seniors at the mercy of insurance companies. At least I can thank you for acknowledging that Ryan’s plan targets the poor via Medicaid.

    Then there’s the matter of social security which Ryan wants to privatize which is faulty because 1. if we get another big recession then what will future seniors have left to rely on as a fallback? 2. if you start diverting money to personal accounts, what money is going to go to funding current retirees?

    Oh and… congrats on the Stanley Cup.

  • greywolfrs

    Where I do not disagree with your statement, one thing you should realize is that Rome was not built in a day. One has to start somewhere and everything counts in small amounts. Is this plan the end all, be all? No. I am not the biggest Ryan fan, but at least the guy had the fortitude to try something, which is more than can be said Obamao or most of the people in Congress…

  • Anonymous

    and here i thought it is suppose to be “fair”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jayne-Nielsen/100000024501720 Jayne Nielsen

    Unfortunately Greywolfrs even Ron Paul’s son, Rand, wouldn’t support his own father.  Not that Rand didn’t love his dad. He just didn’t support his father’s politics. 

    Blood may be thicker than water but when it comes to defending the American principles, Rand Paul had it right and Ron Paul was “left” out in the cold.

    I agree w/a couple of things Ron Paul stood for but in the overall scheme of things, he would NOT be good for this Country.  I’ve heard him on several debates and everytime he spoke he sounded like a loose cannon and NOT A LEADER and people like him wouldn’t be respected or taken seriously by any world leader. 

  • greywolfrs

    First, you obviously have never learned that assumption is the mother of ALL fuck-ups. My candidate? You mean Ron Paul, because that is who will get my vote. Second, Americans should never have had to rely anything but THEMSELVES. Nevermind that though. Maybe we should make all these politicians, that thought putting the SSI and Medicare funds into the general fund, pay for it. That is why it is broken. Again, nevermind that though.

    Ryan’s plan targets the poor? Hey stupid, able body people should WORK, not receive government handouts, nice try.

  • greywolfrs

    Life is NOT “fair,” some people just need to buy a helmet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jayne-Nielsen/100000024501720 Jayne Nielsen

    Obviously Greywolfrs you’re as deaf, dumb, and blind as the thousands of Obama supporters who will vote for him again.  

    And based on your above comment, you are an idiot…”somebody with an IQ of about 25 or under…”

    Unfortunately under the Constitution (you do know what that is) idiots are protected AND are allowed to vote.

  • greywolfrs

    Actually, you are wrong, Rand Paul was standing with his dad until he did not get the nomination. (there is video of him at his dad’s speeches and such) Sorry, but your main stream media talking will not change the fact that they protrayed him as the things you are saying and you bought it, hook, line and sinker. Ron Paul is following the Constitution, even when it does NOT suit us, which is the way it should be. You may not like the founding documents, but they are what make this country great. You may want to try and change those documents, but that will come back to bite you on the ass. Obamao, case in point.

  • Anonymous

     Agreed. But we need to push back. Maybe balance in 5-10 years. But we can NOT afford to continue increasing the debt for 26 years. The interest will kill us!

  • greywolfrs

    Actually, you are the idiot. You keep voting for the same establishment lackeys that got us into this mess in the first and have the nerve to call someone else stupid. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result, there you are. Hey stupid, you should read the Constitution, because you obviously don’t have the first clue about what it says.

    On another note, if the Constitution did not protect me, what the fuck would you do about it? The answer: Nothing, you are a coward just like all the left wingers I run into.

  • greywolfrs

    I agree completely, I was just trying to say that we need to start somewhere. Ryan’s plan is a start, if nothing else.

  • Anonymous

    You’re right, that was rather faulty of me to assume you supported Romney/Ryan, even if it usually is a safe assumption in these parts.

    We just are going to have to agree to disagree (or perhaps not since there’s a good chance you’ll think my position is unconstitutional) as to what the role of gov’t is. I agree that poor people should be working.  However, I also am pro-life in the sense that I think affordable access to healthcare is a basic human right (ideally I’d want single-payer healthcare). I consider going after Medicaid to be at odds with my ideology in this regard.

  • greywolfrs

    Healthcare is NOT a right and mandated health insurance is completely unconstitutional. You can not make the Constitution say what you want, because you believe that it is the right thing to do. The Constitution only grants CITIZENS three things, Life, Liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness. Nowhere does it guarantee happiness. You are free to feel as you choose, but that does not mean it falls within the Constitution.

  • Anonymous

    The Neo-Cons already have Co-opted the republican party that is already done with

  • Anonymous

    Check out this abc interview with Obama regarding the Medicare cuts and how he will never veto these cuts. Obama is toast.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/president-obama-in-2009-pledged-to-veto-attempts-to-undo-medicare-cuts/

  • greywolfrs

    And you think they are after the Libertarians? All I have to say, is good luck with that, it will NEVER happen. Besides, they have not co-opted the entire Republican party, yet.

  • greywolfrs

    SHHHH….It’s Ryan that wants to throw grandma over the cliff, stop telling the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. Anyway, I would argue access to healthcare is a right to life issue, not a matter of right to happiness issue.

  • greywolfrs

    The part you are missing, the Constitution and Bill of Rights are the foundation for guaranteeing those things, nothing more. They set the limits on government and what powers each level of government has. No one has a RIGHT to anything but those three things.

    As I stated before, you are free to feel that way, but that does not mean it falls under those documents.

  • new2la

    Right on Glenn. Your last phrase Aced it…….they are deathly afraid of him, which makes me afraid For him! We have seen evil in the eye, and it is the democrat party; They are capable of anything and everything sinister.

  • Anonymous

    I’m rather curious about why we are allowing the left to use and redefine the word “extreme” when advancing common sense policy.  Didn’t we learn anything by allowing the anti-family, anti-Christian free speech crowd to define the word, “tolerant”?   The pompus “(im)moral high ground” that they are yelling from is deafening when you consider that four years ago the most extreme and socialist senators in the Senate were Biden and Heusen Obama II.  Are they no longer considered extreme?

  • new2la

    That look was priceless Jane. If we were to see a little caption over O’s head, it would read:
    “I hate you!”

  • Anonymous

    All I know is that the Tea Party was started at Ron Paul events whether you agree with him or not. After a few months all of a sudden Sean Hannity and his crowd like Dick Army were all over it, but instead of libertarian views they made it into a republican/neo conservative movement. A nice little way for Bush lovers to rebrand themselves after he was a failed President.

    Dick Army wasn’t against the Iraq war like libertarians were, he wasn’t screaming during the housing bubble, they weren’t yelling during all the spending. They only started to care when Obama came into the White House.

    Conservatives are phonies all you care about is a huge defense budget and low taxes. All you people care about is abortion, gay marriage and putting people in prison with rapists and murderers for selling or buying a plant anyone can grow in their back yards. And no I don’t smoke it before you ask but I believe in freedom, if you can tell someone what they can or cannot put in there body then you own me. I refuse to live in a society were we are all each others slaves.

  • Anonymous

    He and Romney are the only hope left for America. Here is the new Hope and Change that America needs. Its time to take back our country and these two WILL do it.

  • Donna Casas

    As long as Romney and Ryan stay strong and fight the Obama administration thuggery, they have a good chance of winning! Cheer them on, send them some money if you can, go to a republican rally, talk to family and friends about the real issues and go to every Internet site you can think of and fight for them!

  • Anonymous

    With Ryan On Ticket I We Have Someone To Vote For….like We Voted For Palin Not McCain!…..We Do like Ron Paul but…It Would Work If Democraps weren’t Stubborn Obstinate idiots……democraps only vote for other democraps…..and that would hurt the republicans because republicans vote for people …democraps only vote for party!

  • Anonymous

    You’re right Ron Paul would be suited for treasury secretary. all the republican candidates should be the new admin cabinet!….and get rid of those selfish uncaring adviCzars puppetmasters!all should be impeached and jailed ..in gitmo…including Hussein-Obama!

  • Anonymous

    Paul Ryan Is A Great Pick. Paul Ryan Is Easy To Defend…because He Speaks The Truth! The Truth Is On His Side!!With God On Your Side Who Can Go Wrong…..Big Difference between the LEFT and the RIGHT.—-Know Truth Know God No Truth No God!!

  • Anonymous

    Paul Ryan, a politician who is not afraid to tell the truth.  Will this make other politicos and the

    media a little nervous?   Nah.  Truth and facts haven’t stopped the libs, so why start now?

  • Anonymous

    J,  I never read any of the bills.  Did you?  All of it,

    including any earmarks?  Unfortunately, a number of

    bills are passed BECAUSE of earmarks.   However, I

    don’t know Ryan’s reasons for voting for them.  Do you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    “And certainly stealing $700 billion from it to spend on different Obamacare functions will too,” Glenn said.
    As usual, Beck is lying. That $700+ billion went to hospitals and insurance companies, AND it was taken out in Ryan’s budget plan. The difference is Ryan’s plan moved that savings into tax breaks for the rich where as in Obamacare they money was shoveled back into care for the elderly.

    I guess on the right, people like Beck, Romney and Ryan are counting on your ignorance about these kinds of details.

    This was going to be a close race until Romney chose a running mate so extremist that even self-proclaimed extremist Glenn Beck embraces him. This choice will shore up the base and lose the few remaining undecided, apolitical, largely ignorant (of Ryan’s reactionary libertarianism) and therefore open to gut feelings, lies and looks.

    Ryan cosponsored bills requiring ultra-sound of fetuses before abortions and another bill that would outlaw most forms of birth control (the personhood bill). That won’t fly with the woman who are undecided.

    Paul Ryan: great for the reactionary base, great for Obama’s re-election.

  • Guest

    Face it Victor, for all your caterwauling and carrying on, at the end of the day, (or for that matter before the day started), you are just a loony left-winger with an axe to grind for Beck and anything that isn’t completely out the window leftist crazy. 

    We can all see you for what you are and your cred was zeroed long ago. Your overuse of the term reactionary puts on display your limited intelligence as well as your just plain egomaniac idiocy. 

    Why don’t you leave the rest of the world to make up their own mind? For all your effort to lead people around by the nose the results of your work has been rather dismal – for you. You are persuading no one – in fact, you are managing to turn people toward Beck and Romney/Ryan, so keep your delusional vendetta going! 

    For what it’s worth, have you got any idea how many of your messages get flagged? 
    Short answer – all of them, multiple times, by a lot of people.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    …and that helps you how exactly?  You hate the truth about Beck and Ryan; so what?

    I don’t have “an ax (note spelling) to grind;” I am one of many people in the mainstream sick of Beck’s deceitful propaganda that gullible and ignorant people believe.

    For example, Beck claimed that Soros funded The Tax Policy Center, but this is the list of funders. Soros isn’t listed, but he is Beck’s boogie man, so of course, Beck — being the liar that he is — trots Soros’ name out. I heard several other lies that Beck told including how the personhood bill Ryan cosponsored would not limit birth control. WRONG! It would also make in vitro fertilization illegal.

    No way is extremist Ryan going to help Romney win this. Beck was correct about Ryan’s budget: it is extremist, like Beck is.  Ryan and Beck = soulmates. THAT alone should be enough to bring victory to the Democrats this fall.

    AARPDonald C. AlexanderAmerican Bar AssociationAmerican Tax Policy InstituteAmgenAnnie E. Casey FoundationBrodie Price Fund at the Jewish Community Foundation of San DiegoCharles Stewart Mott FoundationCollege BoardFord FoundationGeorge Gund FoundationThe Bill and Melinda Gates FoundationGlenn Greenberg and Linda Vesper FoundationP.J. JacksonCalvin JohnsonSue Jean KimLincoln Institute of Land PolicyLumina Foundation for EducationThe John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur FoundationNathan Cummings FoundationNew York University School of LawPopplestone FoundationRichard and Rhoda Goldman FundThe Rockefeller FoundationJohn RogersKathy RuffingLeslie B. SamuelsSandler FoundationMichael SchlerShari SiegelSmith Richardson FoundationStoneman Family FoundationTax AnalystsPhilip WestWyper Capital Management, L.P.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    And now we discover that Ryan engaged in insider trading after a meeting with Fed Chair Bernake and Hank Paulson: 
    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/revealed-romney-campaigns-attempts-deny-paul-ryans-insider-trading-dont-add/

    …and Americans love Congressmen who use their position to enrich themselves.

    That sound you hear? That’s the Romney/Ryan cruise going down in flames.

    Let me paraphrase Mr. Beck. Why is Paul Ryan easy to attack? 

    1) Like Beck, he’s an extremist.

    2)  Insider trading

    3)  Anti-woman’s rights

    4) Increased costs to seniors under his voucher program (if they can afford them. If not, under the bus goes future grand parents.)

    5)  Ryan accused generals of lying about their support for Obama’s military budget.

    6) Ryan wants to eliminate Pell Grants for more more than 1 million students.

    7) Ryan embraces the extreme philosophy of Ayn Rand.

    8)  Ryan thinks Social Security is a “Ponzi scheme.”

    9)  Ryan co-sponsored a “personhood” amendment, an extreme anti-abortion measure.

    10)  He and Beck are “soulmates.”  

    Yep, Romney was “brilliant” to select Ryan. blub, blub blub…..

  • Guest

    That is a lie. Obamacare takes $716 Billion out of Medicare to fund Obamacare. Ryan’s current plan (not the 20087 one the Dems want you to believe is the one) does not cut Medicare funding. You need to do some up to date research and stop the propaganda. You are a left wing socialist as is obvious from yor posts, and a liar. You pretend to be knowledgeable but you don’t know Shit except for the lies spoonfed ytou by the left. You are a good tool, so be proud of that, little puppet.

  • Sandie

    Who cares abot Beck and your other strawmen? Address the issue. Oh yeah, you can’t because you have nothing factual or honest to contribute, it is all your leftist propaganda. You bnneed to read up on the latest version of the Ryan’s proposals. You are SOS DD, as usual.

  • Sandie

    This is all crap, but then that is as is expected with you. Propaganda Man.

  • Guest

    You need some proof for this propaganda. Insider trading was Nancy Pelosi and her gang. Looks like it is common in Congress. Most of the rest of yor claims here are flat ot garbage. SS however is based on the same principle as the Ponzi scheme – it is a pyramid scam.

  • Guest

    Flagged for spam and idiotic content. Consider the source, and flush the rest of it.

  • Guest

    You seem to have a problem. Sorry you are destined to be wrong again. Sucks to be a fool like you. 

  • greywolfrs

    Hey, vicki, you do realize that everyone in congress is part of the insider trading right? You do realize that Democraps have done some pretty bad things also, right? You do realize that Nancy Piglosi got Samoa exempt from the minimum wage increases so her husband wouldn’t lose a lot of money from his HUGE investment in Starkist, right? You are a complete moron. You do have the first damn clue about anything. Please, do the country a favor and get your whole head in front of the shotgun.

  • Sandie

    As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about, in this case concerning Obama stealing from Medicare to fund Obamacare and Ryan’s plan which is designed to SAVE Medicare.

    Ryan’s plan will not destroy Medicare; Obamacare will as shown here:

    According to the CBO (see link later), the Obama payment cuts in Medicare include:

    A $260 billion payment cut for hospital services.
    A $39 billion payment cut for skilled nursing services.
    A $17 billion payment cut for hospice services.
    A $66 billion payment cut for home health services.
    A $33 billion payment cut for all other services.
    A $156 billion cut in payment rates in Medicare Advantage (MA); $156
    billion is before considering interactions with other provisions. The
    House Ways and Means Committee was able to include interactions with
    other provisions, estimating the cuts to MA to be even higher, coming in
    at $308 billion.
    $56 billion in cuts for disproportionate share hospital (DSH) payments.* DSH payments go to hospitals that serve a large number of low-income patients – the very people it is supposed to help.
    $114 billion in other provisions pertaining to Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP* (does not include coverage-related provisions).

    *Subtract $25 billion total between DSH payments and other provisions for spending that was cut from Medicaid and CHIP.In total, Obamacare raids Medicare by $716 billion from 2013 to 2022. Despite Medicare facing a 75-year unfunded obligation of $37 trillion, Obamacare uses the savings from the cuts to pay for other provisions in Obamacare, not to help shore up Medicare’s finances, so it is not ‘shoveled’ back into elderly medical care.

    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/43471-hr6079.pdf

    http://blog.heritage.org/2012/08/01/obamacare-robs-medicare-of-716-billion-to-fund-itself/

  • greywolfrs

    As I stated before, I have been a Libertarian longer than you have even known what they are. You are going to try to preach to me about Ron Paul, S T F U, I have been following this guy for decades. You just find out who he is and think you know something. The Tea party was NOT started at Ron Paul events, that is a lie. Ron Paul has been preaching Libertarians princples for a VERY long time, the Tea Party just tried to steal those ideas and act as if they had an original idea. I am happy that people are waking up to Libertarian ideas, but they should simply call it what it is.
    Conservatives are all phony? Ron Paul is as conservative as they come. Here’s the part you missed, he lives his life with those conservative values, that does not mean that he (nor I) realize that this is a free a country and people should be free to do as they please, as long as they are hurting no one else.  So, keep making those sweeping generalizations, that is a left wing tactic. You are a progressive, not a Libertarian.

  • greywolfrs

    Hey Sandie, we not agree on much, but vicki is a complete moron and doesn’t have the first clue about anything. He is so dumb, he has his facebook public. Don’t believe me, look him up. It’s mostly about hating Glenn Beck…

  • Sandie

    Actually, we agree on more than not, even though we have had a dust up…. LOL

    About his FB – ya, he likes to put his mug and his opinions, that he thinks are facts, out there in his crusade to crazyille. It’s part of his narcissism …. “look at me, hate Beck, I am the Glenn Beck Review that’s why you all hate me, I know everything…” blah blah blah. It’s pathetic – he is a pseudo intellectual who presents himself as an authority but as Reagan says: He ‘knows so much that isn’t true’ or something to that effect. His obsession with Beck is sick.

  • SoThere

    Sandie, Vicky’s scared, his savior is about to get his pink slip and join the ranks of the unemployed.

    Oh how he tries to spin his whining nonsense like a little child who about to lose his candy.

  • CaptainAmerica

    That’s for sure – the name Vicky is also appropriate. I had never witnessed such an emotional whining display before she/him, and he never stops. I am surprised with all that high pitched screeching he does that there haven’t been several complaints from his neighbors there in Ithaca.

  • SoThere

    There’s not that many people on Rt 96B but they do hear him in town every now and then.

  • Sandie

    Vicky already has a pink slip and it’s always showing …..
    at the pinko DSA meetings.

  • Sandie

    That’s probably why the poor neighbor dogs are always barking and whaling – hearing his race card dogwhistle will do that.

  • Anonymous

    Flagged for contemptible content and spam dumping. 

  • Guest

    You are wrong about the money, like you are consistently wrong about everything else.
    Lying liars lie about their many lies and you are no different.

    You are full of it – everyone knows it – you are dismissed for sheer idiocy.

  • Guest

    We see you are drinking all the kool aid they can dump down your gullet.
    You are a disgusting maggot riddled pig carcass and unworthy of any regard what so ever.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Anyone reading this post is welcome to join me in driving this nuisance poster from this site, especially since his only message here is one of negative and egregious name calling and lie upon lie. In his feeble mind, everyone is as weak willed as he is and can be persuaded by his vile accusations and continuous lies. I am here to say NO to Victor, and anyone who wants to is welcome to join me. 

    His hope is you will buy his lies and Obama will be reelected to continue destroying America. My hope is the opposite, and we will overcome the efforts of Victor and those like him by opposing them at every turn, especially at the ballot box like we did in 2010.

    This is a call to action for all patriotic souls, join me in fighting the good fight and defeating the evil that has gotten a foothold in our nation because of people like Victor Tiffany and Barack Hussein Obama!

  • Guest

    I especially like the third one coming from a misogynist like you! The hypocrisy never ends with you. 

    You are the extremist here – an extreme liar and hypocrite, and you aren’t worth the powder it would take …

  • CaptainAmerica

    Anyone reading this post is welcome to join me in driving this nuisance poster from this site, especially since his only message here is one of negative and egregious name calling and lie upon lie. In his feeble mind, everyone is as weak willed as he is and can be persuaded by his vile accusations and continuous lies. I am here to say NO to Victor, and anyone who wants to is welcome to join me. 

    His hope is you will buy his lies and Obama will be reelected to continue destroying America. My hope is the opposite, and we will overcome the efforts of Victor and those like him by opposing them at every turn, especially at the ballot box like we did in 2010.

    This is a call to action for all patriotic souls, join me in fighting the good fight and defeating the evil that has gotten a foothold in our nation because of people like Victor Tiffany and Barack Hussein Obama!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Now we have found out that, like Mr. Beck, Paul Ryan is a liar and a hypocrite (about the stimulus money he requested).

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#48697119 

    Watch the sycophants howl.

  • Guest

    Another Victor Tiffany Lie. No one believes your crap. Give it up, loser!

  • Guest

    You are citing an article from MSNBC and you expect people to object? No, I won’t object to you making an idiot of yourself here, it’s the only thing you are consistently good at! 

    Mister education, you are of course aware that the upper echelons of the Nazis were selected from graduate schools all over Germany in the 1930′s, including the SS, aren’t you? So before you start flinging your “uber education = uber mental prowess – the Nazi’s were defeated by armies of men with high school education and our own engineers who were all vastly smarter than you.

    MSNBC – liars and hypocrites, just like you – SYCOPHANT!

  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.com/cyk9xz2

  • Guest

    You need to provide some proof…

  • Guest

    And where exactly is this mysterious reference to Soros and the “Tax Policy Center”?

  • Guest

    1) You’re an extremist.
    2) When are you going to come clean on your insider trading?
    3) You attack women in discussion forums
    4) There’s not going to be any money for medicare if we continue and even Obama said that exact same thing. So, the choice is reform it or let it completely collapse. Seems like Ryan is offering a way to sustain some form of care – even if the costs go up. How can you not see that?
    5) You lie about all sorts of things all the time. At least Ryan apologized for the implication. Why and when are you start apologizing?
    6) Cut Pell grants by $1000 in most cases, not eliminate. Only eliminate in cases where the student no longer qualifies. Are these facts too hard for you to comprehend? You know these are You know times are tough. We are all tightening our belts. Why can’t you tighten up with the lies? Even your own favorite site, Politifact.org, disagrees with you.
    7) I guess you have to into something wholesale in your skewed worldview, don’t you? One cannot embrace one piece and not another, right Nietzsche boy? Aren’t you a self-proclaimed deist? Would that jive with your philosophical hero? If you apply this standard to Ryan I am going to apply it to you.
    8) Do you know the definition of a Ponzi Scheme?
    9) Let me get this right, unborn babies are just blobs of tissue but trees have souls, right?
    10) I thought you supported gay marriage?

    You are so stupid…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    So, like a monkey, you pull feces from your rectum and fling it at me.

    You are so incredibly stupid, you must be a Beckerhead: desperate, hateful, sleazy, obnoxious, immature and deceitful.  Yep, you’re a Beckerhead alright.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    You see, people who drive dissent away do not believe in freedom. YOU don’t believe in freedom.

    Everything that you’ve ever posted conveys that you’re an American fascist, close-minded, immature, base, dull and … well, fascistic.

    In other words, you’re a GREAT spokesperson, not for America, but for Glenn Beck.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    I’m just as hard on woman, who try to assassinate my character, as I am on a$$holes like you who do the same. I am a full supporter of woman’s rights, unlike Paul Ryan, an extremist that only the base Republican base can love.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Yep, Beck sure did restore hatred in Dallas, just as we predicted.  (Just as with the birther idea, the few times that Beck is right, you morons ignore him.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    When you act like an adult, let me know.

    Until then, I think it’s great that Beck/Romney/Ryan’s supporters act like school-aged children. Misinformed to the core: no not EVERYONE is part of insider trading, but it is bipartisan (and the all must go, including Ryan back home for people who want to represent the people.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    It’s all over the media: Ryan is a hypocrite on stimulus. Yep, he and Beck are soulmates: extremist reactionaries, liars and hypocrites.  (Since no one here gives a crap about lies and hypocrisy, Beck’s major traits, we will have to make sure the independent voter knows that Ryan/Beck are liars, hypocrites and extremists.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Who ignores the message and attacks the messenger? Stupid reactionaries, i.e., the base Republican base.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    You don’t care about truth or lies: you’re a Beckerhead. No one lies more blatantly and obviously in the media than Glenn Beck. NO ONE!

    (You would not know the truth if it slapped you upside the head.)

  • CaptainAmerica

    You don’t know anything about truth, mister glass belly button.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Crackpots are not messengers. You have no message, just a sick obsession and a computer.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Is that what stimulated your hypocrisy?

  • CaptainAmerica

    Why don’t you pick up the phone and call someone who cares? That’s because there is no one there for you to talk to is there?

  • CaptainAmerica

    You sure did make an ass of yourself again – the only thing you excel at.

  • Guest

    You are certainly and undeniably accomplished at being the master of irrelevance and idiocy. We are all tired of asshats like you, and you support women’s rights with your misogynist attacks and accusations.

    Way to go bozo.

  • Guest

    What you do is not dissent. It is called a vendetta and it is rooted in your irrational hate. Your foolishness is only exceeded by your ignorant continuance of your vendetta.

  • Adamant

    Well now, aren’t you the finest example of refinement and discourse. 

    You are going to attract more flies than butterflies with that. 

    This is my first day on this site, and running into you has been a really enlightening experience. 

    You even invent derogatory names to call people, how creative of you. Do you have any other interesting hobbies, like being a bully or using prejudice and bigotry to assert your imagined superiority over other people? 

    You certainly are a piece of work there, Victor. 

  • Guest
  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, when you act like anything but a moron, let me know. Keep making assumptions, that seems to be working great for you. I am no Romney supporter, dunce. Man, you really are one dumb M F er.

  • Sandie

    If someone being incredibly stupid, desperate, hateful, sleazy, obnoxious, immature and deceitful makes them a Beckerhead, then you are a Beckerhead.

  • Sandie

    You are a weakling who picks on women. Everyone knows that. You are an abusive pig.

  • Sandie

    Only moron here is Victor Tiffany

  • Sandie

    Start with your girlfriend Nancy Pelosi and here democrap cronies, you misinformed school aged hater.

  • Guest

    You are repeating liberal media crap not facts. You don’t know anything about Ryan or his states piece of the stimulus money – all the states were offered stimulus money and you don’t have a clue what you are saying.

  • Sandie

    You are wrong. YOU are the biggest liar in the media.

  • Sandie

    You do, stupid reactionary Victor.

  • Sandie

    You got him pegged.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Oh, Obama is so scary, so BAD for America, right?  Is that why Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp donated nearly $89,000 to Obama’s campaign for re-election?
    http://www.politicususa.com/rupert-murdochs-news-corp-donated-59000-reelect-obama.html 

    I can’t wait to the Beck’s fascist followers explain this.

  • VindicatorX

    “I can’t wait to the Beck’s fascist followers explain this.”

    I just can’t wait for you to write anything that makes sense, mister superior intellect mangler of the english language!

  • Sandie

    FALSE. Here you are off topic to promote your own brand of ignorance, and with faulty data to boot.

    Murdoch’s News Corp donated $58,825 to Obama’s campaign for 2012, not $89,000.

    He personally dislikes Romney, but now that Romney has selected Ryan he is becoming more positive. Murdoch is putting his money where he thinks it will benefit his own interests (and his companies) which is Obama. Why should it surprise anyone that Murdoch is putting his money where he thinks his bread is going to get buttered most? Obama ! What would your OWS buddies say? SO he thinks Obama is going to win – he has his opinion which is contrary to many others who think otherwise. That should tell you something about Obama as in the past Murdoch has been on the Republican side. Example

    Recipient . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Donation
    National Republican Senatorial Cmte $307,800
    Republican National Cmte $55,044
    Democratic National Cmte $52,000
    News Corp PAC $35,000
    National Republican Congressional Cmte $21,000
    Philip Morris PAC $20,500
    Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) $13,600
    Ex-Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kan.) $13,000
    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) $12,200
    Sen. John E. Sununu (R-N.H.) $10,600
    Republican Party of Alaska $10,000
    Republican Party of Washington $10,000
    Ex-Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) $9,200
    Sen. Candidate Bill Jones (R-Calif.) $8,000
    Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.) $7,700

    Vic, you troll, you are such a tool for the leftists and such a dishonest deceitful puppet, running around on Beck’s forums posting your troll droppings. You don’t even have to admit what you are and what you are doing – it is obvious as you are all over he place with this crap. All it is is TROLL DROPPINGS

  • Sandie

    Quoting Vic, ” Oh, Obama is so scary, so BAD for America, right?  Is that why Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp donated nearly $89,000 to Obama’s campaign for
    re-election?
    http://www.politicususa.com/ru… 
    I can’t wait to the Beck’s fascist followers explain this.”

    I can’t wait to see you explain this lie that Murdoch gave nearly $89,000 to Obama’s campaign . It is not true.

  • Sandie

    LMAO he did more than screw up his grammar.

  • Guest

    What does this have to do with Beck?
    You are so stupid…
    You can’t even cite a story correctly.
    Why would anyone believe anything you say?
    Can you get anything correct?
    You are an idiot, Vicky<2!!!

  • AdamAnt

    You mean he plastered that all over Beck’s site this morning and it isn’t anything but a big fat propagandist lie?

    What a cheeky bastard Old Vic is!

  • Sandie

    He can’t get his “facts” straight. Now he will go back and change all his posts so he doesn’t look like a fool.

  • AdamAnt

    Too late, he started looking like a fool three years back when he began that bug infested blog of his.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Paul isn’t radical. Like Beck, he’s reactionary. Unlike Beck, he’s principled.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Paul Ryan: deceitful, hypocritical and right-wing extremist. Yep, he and Beck are soulmates alright!

    Time to spread that message all across the Internet.

  • Guest

    Victor Tiffany: deceitful, hypocritical and left-wing extremist. Yep, true Socialist and Obama soul mate.
    That message already spread across the internet.

  • Guest

    Unlike him, you are not.

  • sparducks

    Coward? hardly. A##holes like you are what is wrong with this country. We have a president who is out of control. He is by fiat usurping the power of congress. He must be stopped. the best way to do it is by electing Romney. If Romney turns out to be a turd we elect someone else. Infants like yourself start crying when every one is not a Ron Paul purist or a strict constitutionalist. You fn guys crack me up. Your guy doesnt get the nomination so you throw youself on the floor and start crying whaaaaaa! ” I’m gonna take my ball and go home.” Your a stupid f###. Romney is the Nominee for the GOP. Either get behind him or Obama. If you wanna change politics and get your guys into office it will take time. In the mean time we’ve gotta stop the bleeding. Take you fn retarded minutia and cram it punk. Obama is a young Stalin in the making he must be replaced by a legal election. You fn guys are gonna wreck our country. I remeber another scenario where a third candidate got us saddled with Clinton and her husband for 8 years. grow up. I am out to sea for a week so I can’t respond to your next infantile retort until next week ,coward.

  • sparducks

    Piss off bonetopick. I have no time for idiots like you. As we ramp up for this crucial election in our nation’s history f##ktards like you are aguing about the small shit. I don’t give a f##k what Ryan has voted for. He’s not an out and out commie or a retard like biden. Four more years of Obama will kill us. and really folks with a libertarian view should focus on the house races every 2 years with your checkbook. that’s where to do the most good. there’s 320 million people in this country half are retarded that’s why we have Obama. You f##ks want the other half to just jump on the ron paul bus today. Aint gonna happen. Romney is not my pick but he’s the guy with the gop nomination. If paul could win the primary’s I’d vote for him. You f###kers must hate the other half of the country who voted for romney in the primary’s and didn’t put up your guy right? Get yer fn head out of the fine print and look at the big picture. right now Obama must be defeated and then over the next few house races focus on the congressional canditates you think will change Washington. The house is the real body with power if it will just exercise it. they have the checkbook. they are the people’s representatives. My candidate is not on the ticket but I will be voting for Romney. What I have a problem with is you bastards who talk politics and have no stomach for politics. Sometimes you gotta eat shit in politics. Now fn grow up. We have an out-n-out Bolshevic in the whitehouse he must be remove at all costs.

  • TheMaskedMarauder

    What you do isn’t dissent, it is character assassination. You should be familiar with the term enough to identify your own tactics and practices. After all, it is what has endeared you to so many people here.

    You also don’t have any idea what a real fascist is, a fact you have proven by your lies and dishonest mischaracterizations here and elsewhere on the net.

  • Anonymous

    The problem is you, sparducks. Your foul mouth rhetoric is what’s wrong with our Nation.
    Your liberal use of swearing points to this.This is a sign of your level of intelligence on display to the other posters.

    Your ignoring of the issues that have lead to this point in history, is the problem. Everyone of you should be scrutinizing all the candidates with equal objectivity. This is not a right, left, Republican or Democrat issue… This is a Constitutional issue. Your aim at suppressing my voice is anti-American.

    I have been involved on one level or another since the 70′s, actually the 60′s, for I was interested in my country. Having traveled extensively, I have an appreciation for our unique system of governance.
    The luxury of which many in this Nation do not appreciate.

    What is your level of involvement? I am boots on the ground. Attending Supervisors meeting, City Council meetings, State Leaders, Senate and House members, Legislative levels, etc.

    I am a member of the Republican Central committee, and a Delegate to the Convention.
    I have walked the walk and talked the ideals that are America. What have you accomplished? Blogging your warped views and foul mouthed garbage?

  • sparducks

    horse crap bone to pick. put on your big boy pants. the military that you honor has the foulest mouths of all. so like I said before piss off. Oh and thanks for blowing your own horn about all of your Fn accomplishments , I guess your just a Fn ledgend. 

  • sparducks

    P.S. It is a left right issue for me you punk. I have five grand kids I don’t feel like saddling with your debt. It would be great to really meet you someday.

  • Anonymous

    Your missing the whole point of this conversation, sparducks. You don’t believe in applying the same standards to all the candidates. It’s you who is willing to compromise your ethics, not me.

    As for the Military? They’ve earned that right. I also believe they know when to use that knowledge, and Disqus isn’t one of them.

    Another point: Free speech is applicable to all U.S. citizens whether you like that or not.
    It’s disturbing that you continually attempt to squelch that right, from a conservative no less…this speaks volumes about where your priorities lie doesn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    Resorting to name calling (punk) is another unbecoming trait, sparducks. Tsk Tsk Tsk

    You are wrong, it is not a Left or Right issue, it’s a right or wrong issue. Where do you perceive this to be “my debt?” Amazing I have been fighting against all these entitlements that others are willing to compromise their ethics to acquire… That they have not earned.

    “It would be great to really meet you someday.”
    A veiled threat? Remember I exercise all my rights sparducks- vigorously.

  • sparducks

    Your problem is that you think you have all of the answers, and the rest of us are fn stupid if we don’t come on over to your way of thinking. First of all my comment that started this was to a guy who you think was making a legitimate arguement against Ryan. He wasn’t. In my opinion he (J) is just another left wing partisan posing as a “conservative” a his statement is made simply to poke his finger in the eye of Beck fans here. I see this all the time and I like to call ‘em on it and flush them out. You have alot of comments under your belt so it’s clear you are who you say you are. But just because some punk comes here commenting and claims to be conservative doesn’t make it so. Furthermore I make absurd statements all the time to point out absurdity. It’s my schtick. I like calling names because it provokes people to defend their arguement. And though I might have a foul mouth( I don’t I only think and write like that) I still have a voice and a vote. My take on things is this: This prez must be replaced by anyone. We (GOP)must win the house and the senate. will their be rinos there? yes. that’s just the way things are. After that we must move to energize voters to concentrate on the house. This is where the power is. We must get people to really love and understand the constitution and hold the gov’s feet to the fire at every level. Local state and federal. We must also defang the federal government and reduce it to the size the constitution lays out. This can not happen over night. And people must be flexible. Rigid ideologues repell people. I agree that there are alot of elements to the GOP that are foul and loathesome. And alot of republicans have done stupid things and are big government just like the dems. But for now this is what is before us and to try to elect someone besides Romney wll only get Obama re-elcted. And unfortunately the masses don’t understand the constitution and think El Presidente has powers that he doesn’t and they do not hold his feet to the fire. This Prez issues Executive orders as though they are legal. He must be rep[laced and Congress must stop this illegal act for all pesidents. We must empower the house and make them exersize their power. The problem is when members of congress become mouth pieces of the whitehouse. It’s the house we must change and let them know what we expect. And get rid of the “El Presidente” personality cult once and for all. I put it to you that the majority of Americans have no idea how unconstitutional our govrnment has been operating almost since the beginning. But they are still voters and they think it is the prez who makes the rules. Now as far as a veiled threat, uh no. I think if you met me you’d be suprized at my warmth and genuine love for my neighbor. I am not boots on the ground like you. But I do influence people around me. And they all love me. So get off your high horse put your guns away and don’t take yourself so seriously your not as great as you think you are but you do have a vote and a voice like me. Punk.(joking)

  • sparducks

    Oh bullshit. I am a very busy man. I don’t have time to involve myself in politics hands on like you. All I have the luxury to do is tpo sound off on Glenn Beck. I work with alot of ex military and you don’t speak for them. They cuss more than truck drivers. And they are with me. Most of them are seargents, who by the way run the army. I’m bored with this conversation now. If your trying to convice me of something you just lost your opportunity. Our country is going to the dogs because people have let politicians get away with too much. My point is we must replace Obama then work on the house. oul mouth old men like me can vote too. And maybe I can change the minds of other fopul mouthed old men. Move on.

  • sparducks

    Move on bone to pick. I cant enjoy as much of glenn’s channel as i used too because of business. I don’t even have time to enjoy my family. Now if you don’t mind I would like to watch this clint eastwood hubub before i have to get on a plane and fly off again. My family misses me and cant stand it when i’m on the computer.

  • sparducks

    Hey bone. The commenter “J” that I responded to that caused you to poke your nose in has 5 comments to his credit. read them all. He is not a conservative. Rather he is pobably an OWS clown posing as a conservative. I sniffed him out right away. This whole thread occurred weeks ago and my only opportunity to respond is now on the weekends. You may indeed be a conservative, probably a libertarian. But you spout alot of bullcrap. As if I’m trying to squelch free speach by calling a spade a spade. I do believe in applying the same standards to all the candidates. I am not willing to compamise my ethics I conduct my life in bsiness ethically. and so does Ryan I’m sure. Your’e full of yourself. You may have grand ideas and hopes for this country but you are barking up the wrong tree. “J” is a plant, not a conservative get a clue, he unlike you is not genuine. You poked your nose in and I bit it. Now I wish I had time to follow all of this like I used too but I’m still providing for a family at my age. That’s my cross to bear. I have young kids and grandkids. They do not deserve to pay for my debts or yours. We’ve got to stop Obama. If he wins again because you Ron Paul supporters would’nt vote for Romney, well then so be it. I hope it works out like you think it will. Congress could make him irrelevent. Lets hope. But they never seem to exersize their power to control the white house and this madman. I used to follow somne of your postings and maybe I will get some time soon to do so again. right now my wife is getting ready to go out so I’m able to sneak away and write. But I don’t have the luxury to respond and defend my words like I would like too. You put up a candidate who can win the RNC and I’ll vote for him. But scarecrow lookin’ mofos like Ron Paul haven’t seemed to capture the peoples attention. and they need to to win. I’m no prophet but I’m gonna make a prediction. Obama wins with a 40% of the vote Romney gets 35 and Ron Paul and Gary Johnson get 15% the rest go to the other weirdo’s. Then we’re stuck with Obama again. And no one will stop the slide into the darkness of socialism. I agree with the libertarians who would give me the right to jab at my keyboard nd spell out dirty words. I don’t know who your candidate is I’m guessing Johnson. He may be a good man. So is Romney and Ryan. Their not everything but they are good men. Obama is not. Grow up. Skunk.

  • sparducks

    40 years of effort and no success. You sound like an abject failure.

  • Anonymous

    Projecting your own inadequacies, sparducks? LOL

  • Anonymous

    Well sparducks, I think you’ve made up for lost time. I never thought slkgej6 could be beaten in the long winded department, but I have to hand it to you, you did him proud.

    J has 5 comments and they are all true. Nope, not a Libertarian, a Constitutionalist. No, I am definitely not a Ron Paul supporter- he advocates Voluntarism.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V

    O’Hare is an excellent choice also.

    I refuse to vote for a man that is part of the problem. He is just a slower controlled slide into fascism.

    Mitt Romney is an aggressive implementer of Agenda 21′s Millennium Goals, which destroy American sovereignty, the very foundation for our freedoms. Agenda 21 & ICLEI establish unelected regional governance in America, soviet-style, instructed by inhuman one-world mandates. That is all we should need to know about any Quisling who would support it. How could this man possibly be entrusted with the United States Presidency?

    supported Bill Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” and thinks it worked and shouldn’t be changed.
    boosted funding for homosexual “education” starting in kindergarten at massresistance.org
    opposes a ban on homosexual scoutmasters at boston.com
    forced Catholic Charities, the nation’s #1 adoption and foster care service to place children with same sex couples even though he was under no legal obligation to do so.
    passed over Republican lawyers for three quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he faced and nominated two open homosexuals. at boston.com
    supports passage at the state level of the Employment non-discrimination Act which would force churches and other religious organizations to hire homosexuals and transvestites or face criminal fines and prosecution.

    I can keep this up for days, sparducks.
    It is an old thread, but that’s not a problem, I have a wide audience. And I drew my line in the sand…I Will Not Be A Part Of The Problem.

  • Anonymous

    By the sheer volume of your posts, I can’t agree. I thought I’d wait a few days until you came up for air, LOL.
    Seriously, sparducks, you are humorous.

    I loved Clint’s speech also, probably the most genuine of the whole charade.

  • Anonymous

    sparducks, my whole family is Military. You’re not telling me anything I don’t know. au contraire, I do speak for many Veterans.

    I understand the sentiment with the Senate, unfortunately you’ll still have the same powerful Rino’s/Cino’s in place.

    They are so bold they pull illegal stunts like they did Tuesday in front of the whole world, with little attention given to it. Desperation does that to a corrupt individual(s) when they see the possibility their empire may topple. To believe Romney will rock that boat is an erroneous assumption.

  • Anonymous

    Sparducks, the House has the power NOW to thwart the president…what’s stopping them?

    I agree with you the Nation isn’t up to speed, but I am heartened by the volume of youth that have taken an active interest. No, they aren’t Paul supporters.

    Ahhhh, sparducks I wouldn’t exercise my rights – unless provoked, LOL

    What? You’re gifting me a nickname now? Just call me Abby -Punked Abby ;-)

  • sparducks

    I have to go back to work today. I havent been able to post and my wife and son were bugging me for attention all weekend, and I don’t blame them. I agree with alot of what your saying but it seems like you guys that have a clear agenda berate and belittle those that aren’t on board with your big ideas. There are 320 million people in this country and what sells is what appeals to most. Being lazy and getting freebies from the government is sure a big lure and it seems half of the country goes that way. And now your ulling out all the conspiricy stuff. Where does all this stuff happen? What meeting did Romney have with agenda 21 people? And why wasn’t it exposed? I will look up what you are refering to, but I’m not going to give up my vote for Barack Obama. He is a Madman. He made it quite clear in his illustrious auto biography who and what he is. He is Anti-American and he has a big following. Alot of minorities just wanna get over on the white man and they think this guy is the answer. He is a dismall failure for America. He can not fix the economy. He doesn’t even want to. He is a big commie. So what is your big plan? How do you see this playing out? After you and your pals have re-elected BHO then what? I’d love to hear your big masterful plan that is going to save this country from ruin. Or do you just want it to fall so you wont be under the yolk of soft tyranny? and then what? What’s the big plan? please enlighten me.

  • sparducks

    Illegal and immoral stunts are pulled daily by people in all facets of public life. I’ve heard of judges threatening to put people behind bars if they mention the constitution in their courtroom. In California a homeless man was beaten to death by police in an illegal and immoral stop and sadistic premeditated beating. Horrible things happen because of the wicked. The thing to do would be to seize the power of the republican party from the rinos by the tea party. county by county and state by state if need be. I don’t see how re-electing barack obama is a smart move and it will happen if you and like minded individuals vote for all of these faceless players. I don’t even know what Gary Johnson looks like. So what’s the plan bone? What’s the big idea?

  • sparducks

    The one comment that J had that was dubious is that he is a conservative which has been my point all along. Don’t be duped by that. When a cop takes a statetement from someone and they preface there statement with an oath such as I swear or I’m a law abiding citizen or I’m a conservative but. Usually they are suspect. J is not a conservative, he is a fraud in my opinion and you should try to recognise that. You have a record of statements to back up your passionate although corny assertions. You are beleiveable. J? just another lib diguising his newly aquired disqus handle as a conservative. His other statements might have been correct but his motives and his identity are dubious and that’s what pisses me off. Don’t fall for that crap. I may have a foul mouth but I love my country and i’ll defend it. Now please have a nice time while you heroically with boots on the ground defend freedom with your 40 years of experience……………Love Sparducks

  • Anonymous

    LOL, you are funny, sparducks.
    I’ll keep on doin’ my thing.

    Talk to you in a few days I’m sure… ;-)

    Love , Abby.

  • Anonymous

    Sparducks, I’m not that old. My interest was sparked due to Military family and over-seas travel, but I was quite young.

    I have been involved since Reagan era though.
    Carter was an abject failure- remember 3 mile Island? I remember when he was blubbering about being attacked by a rabbit, LMAO!!!!

    God save the citizens from such a mindset! LOL
    Abby

  • Anonymous

    You know sparducks, every election cycle has drawn us further down the road to Socialism/ Fascism, as we put our faith in elected officials hands…

    By compromising our Principals in a multitude of ways (ex: Diversity, Tolerance) has lead to this crisis. It shouldn’t be a crisis of conscience. Your first inclination shouldn’t be “settling” for a man who’s public record exactly reflects Obama’s, that is a hard fact. It should be an easy black or black
    decision based on merit.

    I think it’s when you settle for the “grey areas” is when you lose your way. Eroding by degrees to compromise leads to a relaxing of your principals. IMHO

    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain

    We want to be in control of our lives. Whether we are jungle fighters, craftsmen, company men, gamesmen, we want to be in control. And when the government erodes that control, we are not comfortable. We’re not comfortable at all. Barbara Jordan

    A leader is best
    When people barely know he exists

    Not so good when people obey and acclaim him,
    Worse when they despise him.

    “Fail to honor people,
    They fail to honor you;”

    But of a good leader, who talks little,
    When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,
    They will say, “We did this ourselves.”
    Las-tzu