Hanuman the undefeated demon fighting monkey god

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Glenn couldn’t help but spend a few more minutes marveling over Hanuman the undefeated demon fighting monkey god, which Obama’s step dad Lolo apparently thought very highly of during his childhood. How accepting is America? We elected a guy who didn’t grow up with 4th of July picnics and Memorial Day parades – just memories of a giant monkey god.

For anyone late to the “weird things Barack Obama said in his autobiography” party, Obama described: There standing astride the road was a towering giant at least ten stories tall with the body of a man and the face of an ape. That’s Hanuman, Lolo said as we circled the statue, the monkey god. I turned around in my seat, mesmerized by the solitary figure, so dark against the sun, poised to leap into the sky as puny traffic swirled around its feet. He’s a great warrior, Lolo said firmly, strong as a hundred men. When he fights the demons, he’s never defeated.

“Okay. So no Fourth of July parades, no Memorial Day picnics, hot dogs, apple pie, fireworks, no John Philip Souza. But he had Hanuman. And he thinks if you’re different, you can’t make it in America. He should check his business card because I think his business card has a pretty cool address and a pretty significant title under his name,” Glenn said.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    If Obama wants to worship a false god, as he holds to a false ideology and false paths of the collective salvation, then it is his choice.

    There will be a day all of us will be called to account for our deeds, words and actions, for good or for bad, before the Eternal One we know as God.

    There is only ONE true, living God.

    He, and HE alone will I ever serve and bow down to; never willingly to another mortal man. For I declare that my house and me serve the Lord unto the end.

    May God show Obama the light of truth and may Obama accept it before his time passes from this earth.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Rahm Kota

    Hanuman the undefeated demon fighting monkey god really. Again does this shock anyone that a left wing president worshiping an idol. Well at least we know where about stands with Christ.

  • Anonymous

    Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess…

  • Anonymous

    no, I’m not surprised at all that little barry was shown pagan religious nonsense in other countries while a youngster. What I am surprised by is this disaster in chief brazenly reveals yet another ‘screaming example’ of how he is not a Christian today. No bonafide ‘sold out to Jesus Christ’, disciple of The Most High God would reflect upon paganism in his past glowingly. We don’t cozy up to sin after our eyes have been opened to its reality. Even the (so-called) reverend Wright stated “barak didn’t seem to be very interested in Christianity that barak was more of a political creature”. no kidding huh?!  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ME4PN4CN2FI4K6ZDFEIQHMPZXQ venugopal

    Glenn is not
    getting the rating that he needs; now he is talking about Lord Hanuman,
    Millions of Hindu Devotees pray lord hanuman and Glen is not doing any good to
    himself.

    Hanuman is
    worshiped as a symbol of perseverance, strength and devotion.  He is known as a destroyer of evil and to
    inspire and liberate.

  • Anonymous

    Look at glenn’s racism and bigotry shine through once again.
    glenn should be extremely proud, once again, for attacking the President’s family.
    But, since it is ok with glenn….
    1.  glenn, did your first family enjoy the 4th or Memorial Day when you left them to belly up at the local tavern or pass out before the fireworks could start.
    2.  glenn, you mentioned hot dogs and apple pie but you chose to leave out Jack Daniels, Marijuana, Budweiser and the rest of your holiday favorites.  Why?

  • SoThere

    The only racist is you strtlk.  You’re bigotry has also been documented here.

    Folks, strtlk constantly spews his hatred here and puts his sickness on display twice a day.  He’s a leftist spammer.

    As far as “Jack Daniels, Marijuana, Budweiser ” Obama is quite familiar with them due to his abuse of those products.  Obama also had and may still have an addiction to cocaine which he has admitted to using and which supported the drug cartels in Mexico.  Glenn Beck is not on trial, he’s not in Government.

    Save America, vote Conservative.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HM63OD3M3DCXW4RFTETVMJBMOM Shell

    AMEN!, snowleopard. The one and only GOD has given it to his SON, JESUS to judge us and I want to honor him, obey him, and worship HIM! THE HOLY ONE IN THREE PARTS, HUMAN, SUPERNATURAL, AND SPIRITUAL-HOLY, ALMIGHTY SOVEREIGN GOD!

  • Anonymous

    Meg–
            Well, here is strtlk again, the one and only that can’t take the truth. He can sure dish out the trash, but gets all upset if the truth comes out against the left.

  • Anonymous

    C’mon guys, it’s what makes Obama so cool.

  • Anonymous

    OK, I enjoy pointing out the endless stream of obummer concerns as much as the next guy. But I didn’t see anything here that said he worshipped this idol.  Although I’m pretty convinced he is a closet muslim (christians don’t bow to saudi kings, say that the muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world, etc., etc).

    I think it’s very clear who obummer’s true god is;  government.  And he wants it to be our god also. Never happen my friend!

  • IceColdTroll

    Where exactly is he making fun of anyone? Be specific.

  • Anonymous

    I love the fact that the words racist, hate, and bigotry are beginning to have no effect at all in our culture. They carry as much weight and have as much effect now as the words “blah, blah, blah”.  As it should be. Since glaad, “rev” jackson, “rev” sharpton, lefty pundits, etc., etc., use those words in every sentence that falls from their slack mouths, they are just going in one ear and out the other, for common sense Americans. Keep using them ad nauseum strtlk, the knife just keeps getting duller.   

  • Anonymous

    No wonder he is a failed president he learned how to monkey around at a early age, right now he is monkeying with all our livelihoods

  • http://twitter.com/GhostlySpirit Tina Rummel

    actualy i’m sick and tired of both these monkey’s Hanuman and Obama !!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/annarose131 Rose Palmer

    Alcoholism is a very serious disease & should be regarded as such. It takes a VERY strong will & getting all the help you can to overcome it. You are attacking a man that had that illness & OVERCAME it because he desperatly wanted to, otherwise he knew he would DIE. He did seek help, the help of  God & God NEVER turns down anyone asking for help! Ever hear of AA? There are so many people there getting the help they need to overcome this deadly disease! He is not a racist or a bigot, YOU ARE!

  • http://twitter.com/GhostlySpirit Tina Rummel

    I can take down obama’s undefeted monkey god with one word …JESUS !!!

  • Anonymous

    This could well be why he made a monkey out of us all.

  • http://twitter.com/GhostlySpirit Tina Rummel

    Obama and his monkey god need to visit my web site asap GODANDSPIRIT.COM

  • Anonymous

    Jesus said, “I give you power over all the power of the devil…

  • Anonymous

    Tina Rummel
    Obama the narcisist! Coming to Jesus?
    Tina, Obma has to except the ABC’s of Jeus! Admit; Believe and Confess!
    He is a long way from even thinking along those lines! Even if he did spend 20 years with Rev Wright!!

  • Anonymous

    I am a big fan of Glenn Beck and appreciate all the good works. And I think the main point of this conversation is to point out that Obama is different from the norm and because America is such an open minded country he is able to succeed and achieve the presidency for goodness sakes!

    It is important to understand that Hinduism is a monotheistic religion – despite the numerous “gods” – they are presented as manifestations of the one God – like the Catholic Trinity, on steroids you might say. Since God is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient, down through the ages (remember the Hindu religion is over 5,000 years old) myths and stories have evolved with various representations of the numerous aspects of God. Hanuman is a particularly touching representation of the true devotee who loves God with all his heart, strength and soul, something Christ would have found very honorable. It is disheartening to have such misunderstanding and great antagonism towards the other faiths. The inherent dangers of progressive politics must be countered by good people of all faiths.

  • Anonymous

    Silly question…. does a demon fighting monkey (false) god eat dog like Chairman “O”?
    or do demon fighting monkey (false) gods eat something else?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anne-Caluwaert/100000218117532 Anne Caluwaert

    I have to say that no wonder Obrainless is a screwed up mess. His mother and grandparents were Communists, his birth father was a muslim, his step father was a muslim who also worshipped the Monkey god. I thought Islam was a one god religion. Then he got into the clutches of Rev. Wright who tried to convert him to his warped idea of Christianity. He does not know who he is.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TKGLBRZFVLM54DECFQKPSDRBLA Sandhya C

    Mr.Beck and the rest of you – if you do not understand Hinduism and principle behind Lord Hanuman, show your tolerance by trying to understand first before saying things that hurt people of other religions. The anger should not be against deities revered by other humans like you – it only shows how closed your mind is despite your tall talk of being spiritual. I personally do not support Obama, but I am appalled that after all the great speeches Mr. Beck stooped low enough to hurt feelings of millions of Hindus. The question is does he even realize what he said? Can he be strong enough to apologize?

  • Anonymous

    The moslem brotherhood traitor in chief should go and SPANK his monkey.  

  • Anonymous

    You don’t speak for America glenn, you speak for your nutty crowd, don’t forget that. You didn’t vote for Obama, and you ARE close-minded.

  • SoThere

    Another leftist heard from.

  • SoThere

    I didn’t notice anything in this article that ridicules Hinduism.  Did I miss something or are you just looking for something to argue about? Your hit and run tactic is quite revealing. Are you man enough to stand by your nonsense, OOPS, I guess not.

  • Brittsmom72

    November cannot come fast enough! Please Dear God, help us to make it till then.

  • The Craig Machine

     If Romney wants to worship a false god, as he holds to a false ideology and
    false paths of the collective salvation, then it is his choice.

    There will be a day all of us will be called to account for our
    deeds, words and actions, for good or for bad, before the Eternal One we
    know as God.

    There is only ONE true, living God.

    He, and HE alone will I ever serve and bow down to; never willingly
    to another mortal man. For I declare that my house and me serve the Lord
    unto the end.

    May God show Romney the light of truth and may Romney accept it before his time passes from this earth.

    See how that applies to both candidates? Either hold both candidates to the same standard or be no better than the left you criticize.

  • SoThere

    Nonsense.  LMAO Obama worships the Political Machine and hears voices in his head from Georgy Schwartz.

  • The Craig Machine

     You want to do this again?

  • Sandie

    Crazy how the loonies of the left keep trying with the crap . …. LMAO . . . BO does more blow than cigs. . . still. Why can’t ppl realize he is absent from the goings on, on a daily basis? It has always been that way. Take away his prompter, but at least giver him his after speech joint so he can make sense and be coool.

  • SoThere

    Do what, dance with a leftist?  No thanks.  Stupidity is not my thing but you go on and spew your nonsense.  I know you can’t resist.  LMAO

  • SoThere

    It’s all they know.  I don’t blame them, they are what they are.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha ha

  • The Craig Machine

    Seeing the last time we did this you got you ass handed to you, I guess you never will learn.

  • SoThere

    Maybe in your dreams. LMAO What sock were you using in your dream? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

  • barb patton

    Each day it get s worse – the more I hear about this man and his life the more I get sick to my stomach.  I am sure that Lola must have had some sort of impact on his little adopted son

  • Anonymous

    Better check the polls chum, your demon god worshipping, steeped in islam, lying, cheating, killing American jobs and prosperity is slipping….he’s running scared and when he’s ousted, feel free to follow him…

  • Anonymous

    Wouldn’t it be nice if the liar in chief would step back and take your advice? He made a nice pronouncement that America is not a Christian nation, he offends Christians on a daily basis.
    Mr. Beck has every right to point to the background of obama, he was never vetted the first time around, it’s high time he is.

  • The Craig Machine

    Since you were the one that went back and edited your posts afterwards, I would say the evidence is quite compelling that you lost. Furthermore you threw a person under the bus (who was supposed to be your friend) to get at me.

    Resorting to the tactics of Victor and the left tells me all I need to know about you. Since you have already proven yourself intellectually dishonest, there is no reason to have any further discussions with you.

    Ps, There are people that do remember the FACTS, so don’t dig a deeper hole by denying it.

  • Anonymous

     If you listen to it they are very mocking of the Hindu god (they do say no offense but people only say that when they’re being offensive), which wouldn’t be a problem if they didn’t flip out anytime someone is offensive toward their religion.
    I do distinctly remember Glenn losing his shit over a sign hanging in Jerusalem that quoted Jesus from the Qur’an (and that wasn’t even joking around the Muslims were being seriously spiritual and doing it as a way to reach out).
    They are just having fun here and it is harmless, but people take this stuff just as seriously as Glenn takes his religion and if and when people talk about christianity or mormonism like this he flips out.

  • Sandie

    Sounds like Victor.

  • Anonymous

     For a guy who is very sensitive about people mocking his faith Glenn doesn’t seem to be bothered by mocking others.
    He shows a similar misunderstanding of Islam, which is weird considering how much reading he does on the subject which makes you wonder if his research is more micro picture of specific groups etc instead of macro to understand the entire faith.
    completely agree with you

  • SoThere

    Nonsense.    See ya, have fun with your delusions.  
    LMAO

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

  • SoThere

    Yet another leftist heard from. LMAO

  • Anonymous

     it’s not a disease, physical reliance yes, but diseases require viruses, and bacteria ect.

  • SoThere

    YUP.  He even reference Victor in his post. LOL

  • Anonymous

    You folks started out giving God glory and ended by throwing slimey insults at one another. Gosh, could you maybe elevate a little bit?

  • The Craig Machine

     Sandie, you have proven time and time again how ignorant you are of the facts. If that sounds like Victor it’s only because he happens to be correct in this case.

  • Anonymous

    i am not a leftist, I don’t know what from my comment would lead you to think that you could decipher my political leanings.
    Studying other religions is a big interest of mine, and a criticism I have of Glenn is he gets ticked when people poke at his religion and he has no problem doing it to others. If you’re going to dish it out you have to be able to take it and Glenn hasn’t shown a high tolerance for taking it and it’s something I’d like to see more consistency from him on.

  • Anonymous

    True. There appears to be a double standard. All I ask is an honest assessment, something sadly lacking.

  • SoThere

    Right! Funny, I reread the article and it seems he’s vetting Obama, not making fun of anyone’s religion. You go and read it again.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not talking about reading the article. I watched the video, and there is a lot more mocking than the article would have you believe.
    once again I love mocking or making fun of everything
    but you have to be able to take it to dish it out and Glenn would be at the very least very annoyed if someone else were to talk about his religion like this.

  • SoThere

    So you love mocking or making fun of everything.  Beck can’t?  He has the most fun when he’s on air.  I still don’t see him making fun of anyone’s religion just vetting Obama.

  • Anonymous

    mocks and laughs at the idea of the monkey god, which is fine, but in the bigger context of him being overly sensitive about people mocking or criticizing his religion is where i have a problem.
    My problem isn’t with him mocking stuff, or with him being overly sensitive to that same kind of joking or even real religious differences (how dare muslims quote what Jesus said in the Qur’an on a sign in Jerusalem).
    He has no problem dishing it out but can’t take it when it is dished back his direction.
    My problem is with that inconsistency, the combination of the two traits.

  • SoThere

    Nonsense.  He’s laughing at Obama and having fun doing it.  It seems to me that you’re too thin skined to smile and lighten up.  You’re reading too much into this gleeful exchange and banter.

    Sorry, I’m not as thin skinned as you are.  I think the program is hilariousness. 

    You have a nice night, ya hear?  LMAO 

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely, Edward. I’ve noticed this for quite some time and it begs the question – why?

  • Anonymous

    Well, in Hanuman’s defense, he is one of the first examples of a superhero.  Really, many of the superheroes we grew up with during our childhood would be viewed as gods by past civilizations.  The point isn’t whether Obama (who I can’t stand politically) worshipped a god besides the true God, but that people from backgrounds outside of our country can prosper.  Personally, even though Hanuman isn’t the true God, he’s still a good example of justice and righteousness from a cultural and literary standpoint, much like Jesus, Moses, MLK, and even ficticious characters like Batman and Spider-man.  I’d take Hanuman over Obama any day.

  • Anonymous

     Does that make you less of a person because you only bow to one ?  obumma bows to everyone. (except a white national leader. soras is ass kissed regularly but he’s not considered a national leader.)

  • Anonymous

    To the ‘general’ Blazers/trolls: “Perhaps there ARE those among you who believe you are descended from a ape. Perhaps there are those among you who believe that “I” am descended from a ape. But I beseech you to find one who believes the commander in chief is descended from a ape…” {snark’s off} — God is — THAT, than which nothing greater can be conceived. ~Paul Tillich’s ‘definition’ of ‘god.’   “Whatever” — Moot argument.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWAAFFBVKAROICVSLJNTZJPMBA HELEN

    What I find interesting is that Indonesia still has living aspects of its Hindu past now that it is predominantly muslim.  It means that the salafists will slaughter the Indonesians when they get finished w/Jews and Christians.

    To offended Hindus, understand that most Americans have little experience w/the Hindu pantheon.  Americans are not Brits…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWAAFFBVKAROICVSLJNTZJPMBA HELEN

    Yes, they are mocking the Hindu monkey god, Hanuman.  Listen to the tone of voice.  Listen to how they snicker when they play the cut of Obama reading his book.

    And no, I am not a Hindu, but I am not going to make fun of their religious beliefs because that diminishes my ability to present the love of the true God of the Bible.  Paul never makes fun of others’ beliefs.  He takes them where they are.

  • greywolfrs

    Pot meet kettle, dunce.

  • greywolfrs

    Cry some more, maggot.

  • greywolfrs

    Hey, it’s sticky chin the coward. You really should look up the term bigot and then look in a mirror. Dunce.

  • greywolfrs

    Sorry everyone isn’t up to your usual high standards. Now, enough of the sanctimonious B S.

  • http://twitter.com/paoligarcy Paolina Garcia

    King of Kings, not Republics.

    Jesus didn’t say to overthrow Caesar and bring back the Senate. Most Christians in America unfortunately worship the founders of the Republic; forgetting Jesus lived in the Republic-turned-dictatorship and said to “give unto Caesar”. The American Republic is repeating the history of the Roman one. The Roman Republic also had constant reverent talk of “the founders” in their Senate, sound familiar?It’s very scary to me how many Christians in America are afraid to hold up the Bible when talking politics but act as if the Constitution is a holy document. It’s blasphemy.

  • Omegaomni

     So you will vote for a man who believes that jesus and satan are brothers?

  • Omegaomni

     exactly  they talk as if the constitution and the united states are holy relics that must be worshiped

  • Omegaomni

     Christians get mad when you tell them they cannot worship jesus and mammon but dont mind voting for a  mormon whos religion has changed the revelation of the bible significantly

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AFIXDYQ6PRD7UV2EOFEETBVW7I Tom

    And now half of America have a demon monkey god that they marvel at.

  • http://twitter.com/paoligarcy Paolina Garcia

    Only in America.

    In all other countries, conservatives hold up Jesus, Moses, Buddha, etc. as their spiritual guides.

    In America, they hold up the slaveowning aristocrats who committed treason and shot their own country’s soldiers/policemen called “the founders” as their spiritual guides.

  • http://twitter.com/VictoriaIRamire Victoria I. Ramirez

    See how that applies to both candidates? Either hold both candidates to the same standard or be no better than the left you criticize. http://Millionaire4Project.blogspot.com

  • CaptainAmerica

    Which part? Demon fighting monkey???

  • CaptainAmerica

    Do what? Your obstinate insistence on helping promote left wing lies? To quote you, ”
    If that sounds like Victor it’s only because he happens to be correct in this case.”, only shows your insincerity about God, and your links to the failed propagandist Victor Tiffany. 

    Good luck with following the stupidest troll on the internet – you two deserve each other.

  • CaptainAmerica

    SPAM. Flag this post and this poster. The link is a promotion for a scam. 

  • CaptainAmerica

    You truly are an idiot – if you have been keeping up you would know that Victor is never EVER correct. At best he tells half truths which prove to be lies of omission. He is only consistent at two things – lying and being a moron.

    You still want to be part of his fantasy world? Take it someplace else like Alternet, or just leave yourself open to the treatment Victor deserves. Your choice, but you are never going to win any arguments agreeing with that ass here.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Okay, you are a lying sock. 

    Next!

  • Poison_ Monkey

    I grew up in a mainland war zone…wish we had the protection of Hanuman. We had stray pets to play with WOW a real live Ta Ta…IM sure (really) Lolo explained the dictations of Allah is for life or you know what….Yikes. My throat feels itchy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Ryan/1544168307 Victor Ryan

    Funny how Glenn Beck looks up to  Joseph Smith who took a 14 year old girl, Helen Mar Kimball, to be his wife, but looks down on someone who admires a statute.  I do believe sir if you were given an enema you could conduct your talk show inside a match box.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Ryan/1544168307 Victor Ryan

    LOL looks like you got the conspiratron 5000 I sent you in the mail along with full dvd collection of X-Files for christmas.

  • Anonymous

    Nothing wrong with Hanuman, just that he is Hindu, more or less, and not Islamic.  Looks like more smoke and mirrors to disguise or muddy the waters, a’la ‘Rules for Radicals’, about the facts that both Father and Step-Father were Marxist Islamic Revolutionaries

  • landofaahs

    Well, not being a monkey, the monkey god means nothing to me.  But then I am not a jackass so the democrat party means nothing to me either.  Go figure.  But little o knows his own.  I leave him to his own. …and that’s a good thing. lol 

  • Anonymous

    There are lots of Indians Who really believe in your teaching of conservatism. How ever when you are moking my religion and colling my god monkey. Hanuman is very up in every hindus heart and by doing a crappy show like what I am listening is pathatic. You have really lost your marbles and you owe an appology to every Indian Hindu for your act. I do not call christens idols or Jesus Christ any thing but with respect. Hanuman is very improtant figrue in epic and holy book of Ramayana. I lost all my respect for all you Bozos.

  • The Craig Machine

    I am going to reply to all you spam posts to me in one reply, ok?

    You stated quite clearly that you are a close minded partisan hack that goes along with his wild pack of dogs without ever questioning. Your “leaders” So There and Sandie (I know it’s a oxymoron but it is what it is) can’t hack it on their own so now in comes you to attack for them (and just as miserably if I may add).

    It was your little band of miscreants that has attacked me every time. FACT, So What has gone back and altered his posts to me and lied to everybody in your group as to why he attacked me. The facts don’t match his hot air. If you want I can get real specific on who he threw under the bus and how he went back afterwards to cover his tracks. Remember, he didn’t do it once or twice but a few times so there is no excuses for it. Also, if you would like to talk about lying socks, I would be more than happy to discuss all of your groups lying socks. I will leave that up to you guys. In other words, quit your sanctimonious BS.

    If you have something to say to me in the future, it better be on substance not a bunch of rhetoric coming from a pack of wild jagaloons that don’t know their a$$ from a hole in the ground. If not, I will hound everyone in your group like you do everybody that you “perceive” to disagree with. If you can’t figure out who I am then none of you have any business doing what you are doing on here.

    This fell on deaf ears last time but like a fool I’ll keep trying:

    “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he becomes the monster” Friedrich Nietzsche

    Now go converse with your little group before replying back because your next post will have serious consequences for everyone in it. I am not going to tolerate your group of internet thugs with your dimwitted antics any longer.

    Next move is yours, I’m waiting.

  • Guest

    Looks like the only part of the truth embedded in your little tirade here is the Nietzsche quote, and it only applies to you, Monster, or should I call you by your proper name – Victor?

    Take your consequences and stuff them. I am not afraid of a windbag left wing nutjob like you.

    If you are going to stay on this site you will get used to the beatings or you will make the only smart move for a troll like you and seek friendly territory as you have been advised to do so many times in the past.

    You have no room to talk about spewing lies and hot air – you do it every time you cite your manifesto. Your presence isn’t dissent, it is distraction and destructive mud flinging, we are all tired of you and your idiot show, so you can do the moving on, loser.

  • Guest

    Your comments would matter if not for the fact of their content. Nice try but your obtuse nature makes you the monkey. Another generic leftist spouts nonsense, film at eleven…

  • The Craig Machine

     Attention readers, So There has shown his intellectual dishonesty by altering his posts…….AGAIN!

    His original post was simply:

     “Nonsense, LMAO”

    This is why I don’t bother having discussions with him any longer. He is no better than Strtlk or Victor.

  • The Craig Machine

    What do you know? So What has been a busy little cockroach scurrying around changing his posts after the fact trying to be witty.

    Original post:

    “Maybe in your dreams. LMAO”

    You really are a piece of human excrement. You have no honor or ethics. You are a disgrace just like you group of internet thugs.

  • Guest

    What is your problem? People aren’t allowing you a free hand here to trash everyone you start fights with? Remember Victor, it is your condescension that has gotten you into this mess, so you have a lot of apologies to deliver to set things right. I know you won’t do that because narcissists like you can’t admit their wrongdoing or faults – that would destroy the superior image you hold of yourself in your mind and which allows you to pass your harsh and mostly incorrect judgments on others. 

    Blow it out your windbag, cutie. The Craig Machine? That is the dumbest sock you have ever chosen. It compliments the sheer lunacy of your inane threats. 

    Take a hike and don’t let the door hit ya – no one is going to want or miss you here.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus didn’t say “Give unto Caesar,” he said Give unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and unto God what is God’s.”    It is important to finish the sentence or it can take on a different meaning.  Jesus also didn’t say,
    “Give in to Caesar.”
    I will never do that.

  • Anonymous

    Romney is a monotheist. Mormons are monotheists, they just have additional prophets to the old testament a few more than all other Christians. If you believe in one living merciful righteous God, does it matter what name you call him or whether you worship Him in hebrew, Latin, English, Arabic, etc.

  • Guest

    Apparently you don’t wait very well, I saw this outrageous collection of lies and accusations over an hour ago and you have yet to respond. Rave on like the lunatic you are. Who cares? As far as I am concerned you can reap your bitter harvest and shut the hell up.

  • The Craig Machine

    You are supposed to be Captain America and you hide after making a inflammatory comment? Please quit disgracing Captain America and get a different Avatar and ID. Why don’t you go back your old sock of Bill Tilghman. Some patriot you are.

    You refused to heed my warning because you people are self-righteous hypocrites that don’t know when to stop. You would think when Victor got into TFC you people would have gotten a clue then. So There aka Armand1, aka One Man Army (to name a few) has already gone back to alter his posts after the fact so it doesn’t surprise me that you would do a hit and run now. Deleting your name isn’t fooling anyone and is one of those dimwitted antics I talked about in the previous post.

    Now what makes So What so bad is that he has conversations with himself using all his different socks. Trying to bolster the perception that more people agree with him than actually do. Now if that isn’t unethical enough, how about when he threw Ryan under the bus to try and get at me? A person who still thinks he is his friend. Nice guy you hang out with. Birds of feather?

    If you want to get insulting about names, Doodadio? Really? Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Are you really this ignorant or are you just deceitful like your unethical hero So What?

    Where do you come up with the crap you write? It is utter nonsense (To borrow a phrase from your Guru So What). When did I ever “cite” a manifesto? I never have because I am rooted firmly in the Constitution. You also have to be rooted in the truth which you are very sadly lacking along with ethics.

    Your little group is no better than the left wing trolls you pretend to fight everyday in a sad attempt to add meaning to your pathetic lives. Do everyone a favor and get a life you intellectual dishonest simp.

    If personal insults are all you have, I have plenty more information on you people and I haven’t even touched Sandie the drama queen yet. Alas, you people are incapable of learning from your past mistakes so I await you next idiotic rant with no facts to back up your assertions.

    Nice to tell me to “shut the hell up”, a touch of fascism in you I see. Also a sign that you lost the argument.

  • The Craig Machine

    Bill Tilghman, Doodadio or Captain America (Whatever sock you are going by) you are a little coward that posts then deletes.

    If you want me to “shut the hell up” then why are you now following me to listen to my words?

    You really are not that bright are you? God save the Republic if people like you are on the right.

  • Anonymous

    I respect those who have overcome addiction.
    I refuse to respect assholes like glenn beck who pass judgement on others when he, himself is an addict.
    Also, you assume that glenn beck is clean. Do you know for a fact that glenn beck is clean? Drug test results? Or are you basing your statement on the words of a proven bigot, addict and liar?

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Paolina – the exact command of Jesus is to ‘rend unto Caeser what is Caesers; and to God what is God’s.”

    The Pharisees had challenged Jesus on the matter of paying taxes; to try and catch him in a trap and thus condemn himself before the people of the land and to the Romans.

    In his clear statement, he is saying we are to follow the established governance of the land, which in the case of ours allows for many more freedoms than other nations, including means of redress via the Congress or the Courts when wrongs are committed by the makers of the laws.

    The Declaration of Independance and the Constitution are not just any set of doucments; they speak of the Rights inherit FROM GOD unto all of mankind.

    They are not Holy Writ; yet this does not mean that God Himself made sure the Constitution was framed as it is, for His purposes to come forth on the face of the world.

    The Roman ‘founders worship’ you speak of is the stories of Romulus and Remus the founders of Rome itself. Yet with those stories, I do not see the comparison you mention of with the founders being worshipped in our country.

    What I DO see is the rediscovery, under the guidance of God and His providence to us all, of who we were, where we came from, and what it is HE wants of us in His plans for the world and for each of us.

    His plans set forth the time and place for a Republic to arise that would become the United States of America; for His purposes. Entrusted with the gift given of this Republic to the generations to come, we have over the last century slowly lost sight of our beginnings, allowing those who wish to overthrow it to distort and alter the past.

    WE have failed to a massive degree to care for and be good stewards of that which HE entrusted to us. Now He has allowed the truth to come forward, for a revival of tha faith and of HIS people, to learn who they are and in turn to see His handiwork in it all for the truth and life and love of Him above us all.

    Consider the time after the people of the Exile returned to Israel and the ruins of Jerusalem; among them was found a lone copy of the book of the Pentatuch, which was read to the gathered people, and in turn they rediscovered who their ancestors were, the founders of their nation, the history of their people, and through it all, the greatest revelation within it:

    The Father Himself, who guided and bore patiently with them for many generations; and then when he did have to punish them with the exile, made sure, with the book hidden back then, that when the remenant came home, they woudl be able to learn who they are and where they came from, and most importantly of HIM.

    Our Constittution, the Declaration of Independance, and the founders themselves, tell of who and what we are, where we came from and how it happened. The rights and freedoms emplaced into our care are the gift of God to us, as are the documents, for His purposes.

    These are reflections of God and His plans; while the Bible itself, is the written REVELATION and INSTRUCTIONS (of a holy life) of God and His Son, Lord Jesus.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Omegaomni – I look at it this way, as each of us is held to personal account by God for the truth and light HE bestows unto us, then how and why Romney chooses to worship is between him and God.

    I cannot follow the Mormon ideology; yet that is based on my own studies of the bible as a chaplain for sixteen years. Romney will be held to account as will all of us.

    Right now the fact is I judge the mans actions and words taken as the whole; and I do see a man who has integrity and honor, who tries to live up to what he proclaims to beleve upon and in, and thus I will not stand in judgement of the man himself.

    Let God be the one to show Romney, and all of us, His truth and light that He sheds unto all of our hearts in accordance to our individual walks with Him.

    So yes, I will vote for him this year; I have seen the fruits of Mr Obama, and thus will not vote for him.

    Remember, those who choose to not vote, are voting for Obama by their absence.

  • http://BhagaVideo.com Harold Brown

    Are you suggesting that worshiping Buddha is ok? Blasphemy according to your own words! Pontificating is the work that comes to my mind.
    Pontificating: to speak about something in a knowing and self-important way, especially when not qualified to do so

  • Anonymous

     Before all you people out there get all choked up over a BRASS monkey,remember this is the PRESIDENT  OF THE UNITED STATES, a supposed to be man of Gog?
    A man with the middle name Hussein, who welcomes infiltration of our system with Muslims!!
    A threat to our way of life!
    Take off the blinders you have been brain washed in our public schools!

    The only true way to eternal life is through JESUS the son of the living God!
    Turn or Burn…. Repent or Perish! Eternal life or Eternal damnation… Your choice edwardohare!

  • SoThere

    Stop your whining you little twit. You do know that there is an “edit” button and if you don’t like it, TOUGH.

    Whaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaa

    What a whining little baby you are. LMAO

  • SoThere

    Stop your whining you little twit. You do know that there is an “edit” button and if you don’t like it, TOUGH.
    Whaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaa
    What a whining little baby you are. LMAO

    Funny stuff, he’s posting this to me and then he says “This is why I don’t bother having discussions with him any longer.”

    He got his ass handed to him the last time he messed with me and he just got it handed to him again.

    If your lonely Craig, get a pet or a hobby or a couple of friends.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha LMAO

  • SoThere

    I don’t care if you’re a Hindu or not. If you can’t see that he’s having a little fun at the expense of Obama then that’s your problem.

    Take it somewhere else, I’m not interested.

    Have a nice day.

  • SoThere

    Folks, this is the face of the Liberal Progressives in this country.  Some of them are in our Government.

    You’re an ignorant fool strtlk. Everyone sees that when you post here. Go clean some toilet, Phony Soldier. You’re doing so much for us Conservatives. LMAO

    Save America from these idiots, vote Conservative.

  • Anonymous

    CRAIG,

    When you say “changing [his] posts,” what do you mean, seriously? I edit my posts, however, when I have erred in my reasoning or received a new idea, or better idea from one of my contemporaries here, I try to give credit where due. But I do not hide flawed reasoning by “changing [my] posts.” I agree that substantively changing one’s post is intellectually dishonest.

    You write below that you will provide examples to “So There.” Could you let me know when you do such?

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    And – Paolina: when the federal government begins illegally purchasing weapons like the SSA just bought 174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets to police the citizens of the U.S. when the military is not allowed to use this ammo overseas in conflicts, I’d say you are upholding a tyrant.

  • SoThere

    purveyor1,

    I edit my posts when I feel it needs to have something added or removed or corrected. That’s what the edit button is for. The little box that you post in (Disqus)is less than an inch tall and 4 inches long. The type is small and hard to see sometimes when posting more than a couple sentences.

    If Craig don’t like it then tough. He’s an idiot anyway. If people don’t like it then tough. He’s upset because he had his ass handed to him in our last exchange and his ego is bruised.

  • Anonymous

    I have heard of various politicos going back, way back and changing the narrative of their discourse? When I first started with Disqus, a guy hacked avatar/site and changed my words. He got kicked out!
    Anyway, Craig seems awfully angry, but I know you well enough that deliberate deception/deceit is NOT your thing, so to speak. You may do, or say something I disapprove of, but not surreptitiously! Come to think of it, I have had new and germane thoughts that I have added to a post, not to deceive, but to improve the idea… Anyway, I meant no malice, to either of you, was just curious. I am interested to see what Craig provides as evidence?
    “Nulli secundus”

    PS–been trying to get some civil war photos to you….

  • SoThere

    Craig’s just upset. He’s lonely and looking for someone to talk to.

    It’s not his fault, he is what he is. I haven’t seen the photos yet, looking forward to seeing them.

    PS, Iv’e also had a number of my posts hacked and changed. Some little weenie (woman in St Louis) couldn’t take the truth and had to break the law to prove her point. I’ve also had stalkers so sometimes when I think I’ve posted something personal or identifiable, I’ll go back a remove it from the web.

    If people don’t like it, tough. :)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TKGLBRZFVLM54DECFQKPSDRBLA Sandhya C

    Not everything is about politics. What you all are missing is that while touting conservatism, Glenn has insulted a revered Hindu deity and you all stand around clapping hands. The true character of person shows when you stop to think about how you are hurting other people’s sentiments.  The point her though is how  quickly you all stoop to insulting deities revered by other religions. This is not an endorsement for Obama or anyone else. I hope Glenn has the courage to stand and apologize!

  • new2la

    Welcome to the real world honey.  There is only but one God no matter how many statues you whorship.    His name is Jesus Christ, our Lord Savior.  It is only through Him can we be with our Father.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn is right on.  People can be easily led to believe false things.  Obama is proof of this.  Is this all the Democrats have to offer?  Sad!

  • new2la

    That is between he and God, no?    Only the true God is in judgement.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GWCKCEWJIOPRZKNUUORWZAPYY4 raylau

    porch monkeys belong on the porch!!!!!!!

  • Guest

    Still waiting – or just busy writing checks with your mouth that your ass can’t cash?

    Your account is overdrawn and the creditors demand payment!

  • Sandie

     Remember bellicose Belisarius?

  • Sandie

    He and you, and your butt buddies – tapestry, schellers_a_stalker, strtlk etc aren’t worth the time of day and not as bright. You and your butt buddies wouldn’t know a fact if it hit you upside the head. Run along and play now… this is the adults room. When you make accusations you better have some real  facts to back them up, which you never do. You just troll around here trying to stir up things with your hate mongering and BS rhetoric. You are just another nobody and no one cares what you spew. Go put your Marco sock on and play Marco Polo by yourself in some quick sand … LMAO

  • Anonymous

    Wow, Paolina! Did you ever get it wrong! What I meant was that one day, JESUS will return and “every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that he is LORD of ALL!
    Perhaps, 1) You should read the founder’s documents that speak of our Rights being given by GOD, and NOT the government, and their writing’s in which they quote the Bible, and 2) remember that Christianity became THE religion of Rome. Perhaps you’ve heard of a little sect of Christianity called, oh, what was the name? Oh, yes! ROMAN CATHOLICISM! Ever heard of it?
    Nice try, though, using my statement to go on an Anti-America rant! Will you silly Socialists ever learn?
    No. Probably not.
    I don’t care about whatever country you’re from. If you’re from the U.S.A. it’s your God-given Right to speakout against the government. If you’re not, and you want to bad-mouth MY country, why don’t you take the LOG out of your country’s eye before you try to remove the speck from mine?

  • Anonymous

    not to mention….He NEVER “pledged ALLEGIANCE to THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA during his “FORMITIVE YEARS” !!!!! 

  • CaptainAmerica

    I agree. Craig and his pals are a nuisance, and the time for amateur hour has long passed. If they continue they will be walking into a hornet’s nest, and that is all I have to say about that.

  • Guest

    Please let me know the hacker’s ID, offline. Research is a rewarding hobby for vets like us.

  • CaptainAmerica

    Their combined brightness is measured in nanowatts. They couldn’t illuminate anything. The darkness is where they dwell and should be banished to.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, Glenn is so loving in this video. He’s really an inspiration, all the love and anti-hate mongering that Beck exudes… and you morons buy that Obama worships Hanuman. No wonder must of you think he’s also the anti-Christ.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mjeannette.dinardo M Jeannette Ridinger DiNardo

    Oh ,by the way Barry,  how did you pay for your college education??????

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely correct. 

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be your huckleberry.

  • Anonymous

    Seems like you went to a lot of trouble creating this ID not to bother. 

    You are a contradiction within your own confusion.

  • Anonymous

    Now I will follow you and there isn’t a thing you can do about it, except whine like you are here. I have seen no deleted posts from any of the three people you are arguing with so if you have some proof, by all means let’s see it. Your lack of brightness leaves you on your hands and knees searching in vain for the light.

    Your flailing about is entertaining. I am certain you will continue because you are much to ignorant, bellicose and stupid not to. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1837217162 Gary Musso

    Biggest story in history….  Obama SHOW YOUR RECORDS!!!

  • Anonymous

    Someone has issues. Can we guess who it is? If you wanted to be more of a threat then you wouldn’t be exposing yourself, so that tells me you really are an amateur hack and this is all you have. You are stabbing in the dark hoping to hit something. Too bad your efforts are revealing you as a weak inept bumbler. Your pretense that you have some insight beyond others is very easy to reproduce, but not so easy to maintain. Time will be your worst enemy. 

    Egos like yours demand recognition. You won’t find that an easy commodity to acquire.

    Enjoy your stay – it is all you are going to get.

  • The Craig Machine

    Attention everybody on Disqus:

    So What aka One Man Army aka CJ aka Armand1 (some not all of his socks) is trying to justify his deceitful actions. The edit button is for correcting grammar mistakes not adding to a conversation after the fact. If you have something to add, start a new post or make it clear it was a afterthought. Going back and adding to a post to make oneself seem witty is dishonest. Going back and liking your own comments with different socks is also deceitful which they all do in this group.

    So What aka One Man Army aka CJ aka Armand1 is intellectual dishonest and a snake, just like his entire group of mental midgets. They are nothing more than internet bullies trying to intimidate people they disagree with.

    I was a part of their group for a short time until I realized what a bunch of liars they all are. Yes I was a part of their group and now look at all the lies they try to discredit me with. They incorporate the same tactics as the Left by lying, smearing, and deceit rather than post on the merits. They believe the ends justify the means. This is how radicalism is introduced into groups unless it is stood up to and denounced.

  • Anonymous

    All you Obama lovers out there go see Obama 2016! Open your minds!

  • The Craig Machine

    Hitting the bottle again I see Sandie (Seriously). What happened to all of your friends Sandie? Most of them have left you because they see you now for a lying deceitful alcoholic snake. The only “friends” you have left are the lying snakes like you or people that are to ignorant to see you for what you really are.

    Go back to your drunken stupor and stop posting your worthless drivel. You people think you can attack me with relentless lies and there won’t be consequences? That shows how stupid and conceited you people really are.

    Some of Sandie’s lying socks”

    V4Velveta
    Rudapi
    Odin

    Keep up your crap Sandie, because I have more. You can blame me all you want, but the fault lies with your group of mental midgets that attacked me again without provocation. Now keep circling the wagons around your corrupt group and attack me with more of your lies. You know damn well that I am more Conservative and Constitutionally sound than your RINO, CINO ass could ever hope to be. You are the ones lying their asses off trying to discredit me and it is obvious.

  • The Craig Machine

    Original post:

    “Maybe in your dreams. LMAO”

    His original post was simply:

    “Nonsense, LMAO”

    The last time So What attacked me, he started calling me Ryan and insulted him when Ryan thought they were friends. Then went back afterwards and deleted them so Ryan wouldn’t seem them. Sad thing is, Ryan thinks CJ aka So What aka One Man Army aka Armand1 is his friend still. With friends like that who needs enemies?

    Of course you already knew all this or did you conveniently forget, again?

  • The Craig Machine

    Which lying sock are you now? Your statement proves either you are lying or a idiot. Knowing that you are one of the jagaloons from TFC I will say both.

    You people are the idiots that never know when to back off. You people escalate these situations into meltdown and still can’t figure out why nobody can stand you. Your group of geriatric misfits is worse than the left wing trolls.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis

  • The Craig Machine

    Egos? Your group of geriatric misfits is full of it. That’s why I couldn’t stand to be around you people anymore along with being deceitful liars void of any real ideas.

    Hell, I must be really good if I am all that you people claim I am and was invited into your group or you are really dumb. Since I am not anything you say, that would make your group the bitter deceitful liars trying to discredit me.

    Go back to your hole that you call TFC.

  • The Craig Machine

    In order to win, you have to post something of merit, not just pop up under a new sock to attack me.

    You people don’t have a clue about reality do you? Another reason I left your pathetic group.

  • The Craig Machine

    Still deleting your posts I see, typical of a coward trying to hide. I can only imagine this is what you do in real life? Hit somebody when they are not looking and then run back to hide?

    You people are disgusting. When is the last time you actually stepped back to take a look at yourselves?

  • The Craig Machine

    Excuse me, it is your group that creates multiple ID’s to post to yourselves and like their own comments.

    You are deceitful hypocrites of the worst kind. You can lie to me all you want but deep down you know it’s the truth.

    CJ aka So What aka Armand1 aka One Man Army and Sandie aka V4Velveta aka Rudapi aka Vern aka Odin are two despicable people. In fact, anybody that is still part of your group is.

  • SoThere

    Are you Lonely Craig? LMAO

    BOO!

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

  • SoThere

    It’s been dealt with already.

  • Anonymous

    Phoebem:
    Jails and bullets check out Senate Bill:  1867 passed almost unanamusly 93-7!

  • The Craig Machine

    To the readers of Disqus:

    I don’t need people to come to my aid like this gang does. These losers can’t handle me one on one so they attack me with their gang of geriatric misfit bullies. Once again shows you their true character.

    CJ/So What/Armand1/One Man Army has nothing to say other that to spread his worthless lies. All he and the rest of them can post is the same nonsense over and over. This is the third time they have followed me and attacked with lies. They know I am not a leftist but chose to propagate this lie for their own selfish reasons. They are mad and jealous because I left their pathetic group and are doing this out of spite. This group is filled with miserable excuses for human being.

  • SoThere

    Whaaaaaa Whaaaaaaa.

    Stop your whining. Get a hobby or something.

    LMAO Look who’s attacking who.

    Please post your nonsense to someone else, I’m really not interested.

  • Anonymous

    How singularly unimpressive. Why bother wasting anyone’s time if this is how you feel? No one really cares.

  • The Craig Machine

    Attention readers of Disqus:

    There is a group of bullies on here that are trolls. They are led by two deceitful liars named CJ aka One Man Army aka Armand1 aka So There and Sandie aka Rupai aka Vern aka Odin aka V4Velveta aka VendicatorX. They employ the same tactics as the left wing trolls.

    They believe that they are justified in using these tactics because they are self righteous hypocrites. They will lie and smear anybody that they have petty disagreements with. As a former member of their group, I know this and is why I quit when I saw behind their masks.

    Each one posts to themselves and likes their own comments using their different socks to show fake support for their lies. So There will go back afterwards to edit his posts to make himself sound wittier than what the post originally was. When you edit your post, it doesn’t send a Disqus email to the person to let them know it has changed so it is a very dishonest to do so.
     
    I am willing to debate anyone of them on the merits of Conservatism but they wont because it would prove them as liars. They know I am more Constitutional sound and rooted in the Founders of this Great Country then they are. I also believe in truth which is where the conflict lies with these liars. They have not offered one shred of evidence that I am a leftist troll nor can they. All they do is deflect and keep spreading their self serving propaganda.

    I know these people from the inside and they are not good people. They are sick in the head who believe the ends justifies the means. Thought everyone should be aware of who they really are since they are completely out of control now.

  • The Craig Machine

    Sandie, you are still a ignorant drunken whore. I am sorry if the truth hurts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Ryan/1544168307 Victor Ryan

    Lol you are pretty funny….really.  You should become a famous comedian, makes tons of money and get your teeth fixed.  I am not surprised that a little toad as yourself would find facts as nonsense.  Hopefully your neighbors keep their underage daughters far from you vicinity.

  • SoThere

    Craig’s a bitter little man isn’t he? He’s lonely.

  • SoThere

    He’s a bitter little man, isn’t he? He’s lonely and people like strtlk suits him just fine. Two vulgar lonely people.

  • Anonymous

    Just a thought(and maybe that’s my problem) When someone changes there name from Barry S. Why is it so hard for anyone to believe we as AMERICAN’S don’t look at the name that BHO has chosen for his new name i’m not saying he is a muslim but it sure is something for us to think on , He sure doesn’t fit the Barry platform anymore ,I’m sure that many of you  have to feel the same way did he slip right under the radar or have we become so ignorant that we like to believe in liar’s !
    If I was to change my name to CHARLES MANSON, OSAMA BIN LADEN , TIMMOTHY MCVEY, or even IWANT TO EAT PEOPLE , would you just look at me as a loon or could I just lie to you and you would follow me !!
    Think about it my fellow AMERICAN’s  we are something and I don’t think it is ignorant !
    A monkey, or some guy that flew to the moon to start islam really after all these lie’s it really is a little hard to work it out !
    Take the time to get to know me  I will be you next  President !
                                                                  I will be running under the name
                                                                                                          FARTKNOCKER

  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.com/cyk9xz2

  • Anonymous

    You seem to be quite offended by something but you never quite say what it is. Could it be these people rejected you because of your apparent lack of maturity?

    That is most likely. You need to grow up and realize the world owes you no allegiance, and you can’t insinuate yourself into friendships and then turn on them like a rabid dog. No one likes a traitor.

  • Anonymous

    Who cares why you left? Certainly not I. Yours is the shaky grasp of reality here, sonny, so when you finish this tantrum just know that as far as I am concerned you are a foolish turncoat and you deserve to be shunned.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, you were welcomed, then you started becoming a nuisance to women, and an irritation to those of us who had to put up with your lack of finesse and maturity. You don’t like being rejected, well some people don’t like being treated like you were treating them either. You really want me to go into the facts here and now, or would you rather take it on down the highway?

    The smart move is to leave. So when are you going to get smart?

    Projecting your weaknesses and bad traits on other people is not what you learned at TFC, and you are too young and immature to dictate to me or anyone else.

    Ryan, I too know a lot about you. Should I start broadcasting now, or would you rather I give you a pass?

  • Anonymous

    I am offended that you have the chutzpah to hurl insults blindly at me when you don’t even know who you are talking to. Have you faced death in your short lifetime? Really? Have you watched your friends lifeblood drain away while you tried to save them, all the while trying to withstand a hail of bullets and exploding mortar shells in order to keep you buddy from dying? Well, have you? Have you ever actually been in a fight where your life and the lives of others were at stake?

    Don’t ever tell me what you think – your opinion is valueless. Not because you haven’t risked your life or done something noble, but because you have dishonored yourself, and people you pretended to be friends with.

    You stepped over the line and got kicked out at TFC, you didn’t leave on your own, so don’t you dare pretend otherwise!

    C.S. Lewis notwithstanding, you abused your privilege, and you got what you were told when you joined what would happen if you didn’t obey the rules. You can’t force yourself into relationships. You made yourself unwelcome, and coming here and pissing and moaning about it all over the place shows just how little you understand the interpersonal dynamics of friendship, and that when you promise to abide by standards of behavior it is a serious undertaking.

    Your best move is to leave and discontinue making a nuisance of yourself.

    You done f’ed up, son.

  • Anonymous

    Since you aren’t talking to Sandie, all you have managed to do is step on your appendage again in public.

    You need to put a muzzle on it – you are just digging that hole you are in deeper and deeper.

  • Anonymous

    Your ranting and raving like a real professional lunatic now, Ryan. Why don’t you give it a rest? You might hurt something.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve got all you can handle, Ryan. Calling your elders geriatric is cute but hardly truthful since that only applies to people nearing 70. Got any proof that anyone you mentioned is near 70? No, you don’t. The only reason you are using that term is you think it is an insulting remark. I suppose I should tell the readers of Disqus that you are a punk kid barely of age, huh?

    You got hit back after you started posting inflammatory crap all over this site, and since you did, you deserved what came back, so don’t whine like a baby now about it. Grow up and be a man for once in your life.

    There is no truth behind your outrageous claims, and you learned well from your democrat friends, strtlk and Victor.

    Watch your back around them – they will stab you when you have served their purposes.

  • Anonymous

    Ryan is such a fool for doing this. He played right into Victor’s hands. Wait until Victor sticks him in the back later.

  • Anonymous

    Why is anybody who is still part of the group despicable? Just because you say so? You are a turncoat, Ryan, and you got what was coming to you when TFC kicked you out for harassing people. You have been seduced and lied to by Victor and probably some of his other allies. I tried to be your friend but you went too far and turned stalker; it was reported, and that is why you were banned from TFC.

    You really should have considered what you were starting when you got all cranked up yesterday and came here. That was a poor choice.

    Who put you up to this?

    CONFESS.

  • Anonymous

    Ryan, you are becoming an idiot. Watch who you take on, it isn’t very smart to come here with guns blazing and then all of a sudden you are out of ammo. Not very smart at all.

  • Anonymous

    “The edit button is for correcting grammar mistakes not adding to a conversation after the fact.”

    Then why does your pal Victor do that very thing all the time?

    Because he is a liar. You are starting to follow him a little to closely, Ryan.

    You should also stop posting word for word what they tell you to. Your spelling and grammar were never this good, so it’s a real dead giveaway.

  • The Craig Machine

    How so? Please explain.

  • Anonymous

    Lashing out like you are is a display of weakness, Ryan. You assume everything you saw at TFC was true, but I know that some of it was disinformation, and now you are revealing false info all over the place like a stuck pig bleeds. This is really an unbecoming display, and you are making a big mistake here. That is how so.

  • The Craig Machine

    All of you are old enough to know better and since you all insist on behaving like grown infants, I thought the term applied nicely.

    You really need to put down the bottle Sandie. Attacking Ryan like So There did last time only proves you are a incapable of having a original thought on your own. Why do you think everyone is running away from you people?

    Of course that is what you really want, to bully people into submission. To bad for you that everyone is waking up to your groups ways, Sandie.

  • The Craig Machine

    Nice of you to share personal information from TFC. Isn’t their privacy laws about that? Could have sworn there was when I was a member of that worthless place. If I was Ryan, I would look into contacting a lawyer. How far you people keep sinking.

    Sandie, you keep proving your ignorance every time you post. Please keep it coming. I will c/p your post in case you try to edit it like your group is notorious for doing.

    “Why is anybody who is still part of the group despicable? Just because you say so? You are a turncoat, Ryan, and you got what was coming to you when TFC kicked you out for harassing people. You have been seduced and lied to by Victor and probably some of his other allies. I tried to be your friend but you went too far and turned stalker; it was reported, and that is why you were banned from TFC.

    You really should have considered what you were starting when you got all cranked up yesterday and came here. That was a poor choice.

    Who put you up to this?” -VindicatorX AKA Sandie

    CONFESS.

  • Anonymous

    You should respond to Sandie instead of me. I don’t know why you feel qualified to judge others, there sure isn’t any evidence of that in what you’ve been doing here.

    I don’t bully people, I go after those who do. You missed the entire point, apparently. Another sign your judgement is flawed and in need of tuning up.

    “…everyone is waking up to your groups ways…”

    What does that mean and who is “everyone”??? I haven’t seen much against us like you seem to think there are, and it is more often than not that others seem to see what we do – I counted several people responding to Victor the last couple of weeks, and it was many more people than fit within the picture you are painting – incorrectly, I might add.

    You are in need of a reality check – you are way off target there, sport.

  • The Craig Machine

    That’s not very nice to say Sandie. Out of Ammo? Hardly, I have faith you people will always provide more ammo for me. You don’t know when to shut up Sandie, that is a fact.

    I do hope that you already took me off your email list, I am tired of your Romney talking points spam. In fact, maybe I should send you a private email telling you more directly how I feel, since you email me crap all the time.

    Don’t vote for Romney or Obama, vote Gary Johnson for President!

  • new2la

    The beauty of posting on here is we are free to basically say what’s on our minds…….fine taps, and the rest are not silenced.   I posted several items of interest on the huff post and yahoo….I pretty much exhausted my repertoire of Obama quotes and now, they won’t allow me to post.  Anyone have that problem?   Oh, the inhumanity!

  • Guest

    Information or disinformation… You really don’t have a clue about what is true and what is not. 

  • The Craig Machine

    You are a proven liar so I don’t believe a single word you say without evidence.

    Once again you are lying, the choice was mine. All you do is rewrite history. I suggest you pull your head out of your ass and check the records. You are walking a thin line leaking private information of Disqus.

    If you are even a Marine you are the sorriest excuse for one I have ever seen. I didn’t know they taught Marines to be liars and deceitful thugs.

    You are a disgrace to this country! I don’t care what you have done in the past, what you have done now in the present negates any honorable thing you MAY have done. You don’t get a pass for life to be a miserable lying excuse for a human being, your words are all that matter here and they fall far short of your claims.

    It is you and your group of misfits that keep harassing me, so why don’t you go and choke on your own sanctimonious BS.

    Hows your health?

    To any Marines out there, I do not think that CJ represents the Marine Corp honorably, this is not meant as a slight to anyone other Marines

  • Anonymous

    Vote Gary Johnson for President and toss your future to Obama!

    You gotta be the dumbest rock in the box.

  • Guest

    Explain your motivation other than being a dishonorable traitor, please. You want to point fingers and throw rocks but you can’t afford to because you yourself are guilty of the same things you are accusing others of. 

    You can’t have it both ways. Crying about people leaking information while you do it is hypocrisy. You know that word, it describes you and your actions very well. 

    You wanted to be an infiltrator, and when you were found out and expelled all of a sudden now you tell it as if you had some moral epiphany and left of your own free will. Sorry too many of us know what a big fat lie that is. You’re busted, the jig is up, and you are guilty of doing everything you are here screaming and accusing others of.

    Then you try to get personal and when it doesn’t work for you the hissee fit you are throwing continues to escalate.

    At what point do you realize every person reading this sees your hypocrisy? At what point after that realization do you just go on and disappear from here since your hypocrisy has been exposed – and mostly by YOU???

  • The Craig Machine

    Keep spewing GOP talking points and proving that you can’t think for yourselves.

  • Anonymous

     LOL, good luck with that, they’re too busy touting the merits of a religion whose deity (ies) and beliefs were stolen from so-called pagan religions and rituals.  Mechanically mouthing their patchwork edit holy book leaves them no time to acknowledge anyone else’s culture or religion.  Besides, it would require them to see the hypocrisy of proferring the hatred and intolerance their religion supposedly prohibits in judging others.

  • Guest

    Where is your proof? For that matter who do you think you are addressing here? So far you have been wrong every time. While you play your little game of “if you can’t guess who I am…” you haven’t been very good at identifying your former “friends”, now have you?

    As if you haven’t made a big enough jackass of yourself, now you want to take on the USMC. Good, you go up to the nearest Marine and tell him what you have been saying – I am certain he or she will straighten you out on a few things.

    Why don’t you lead by example and enlist – the experience of Basic Combat Training offered by the armed forces has straightened out more than a few malcontents like you.

    You truly are a rebel without a clue, kid.

    Being a selfish betrayer, hypocrite and liar are the only qualities you have displayed thus far, but you’ve been damned good at all of them.

    You deserve a cookie.

  • SoThere

    It’s not Ryan.

  • http://twitter.com/nutts2020 nutt

    Where does it say that Obama is worshiping a ‘false god’?  You really need to read a bit more carefully and not be in such a hurry to twist your knickers.

  • new2la

    I couldn’t help but smile after reading your post. Very observant question, one many should ask themselves. How easily can we be deceived if we allow ourselves to be?

  • Sandie

    STFU Devin. I happen to know who a couple of those IDs are, and they aren’t me. I won’t tell you who they are. I don’t need to make up new socks to hide behind like you do. No wonder you don’t want to interact with others like a normal person. But that’s your problem. As far as being drunk, it looks like that is your problem …. or do you behave like this often – in which case you need some professional help. Yo sound just like Victor Tiffany now.
    None of my friends haven abandoned me like yours have, and that was all on you. It is going to get woirse for yo too because of what you have decided to do here.
    So, you want everyone to believe that you are Victor the narcissistic idilt? or someone else to get the “group” fighting withing itself to get it broken up? Too bad I am onto you – you can’t pull that crap on me because you don’t have the intellectual edge you think you do – you are lacking. You can’t measure up kid. As far as drunken stupors go – that is your thing, not mine. Enjoy your drunken stupor and stop posting your worthless drivel. You left some real clues that you didn’t intend to leave … LMAO

  • Sandie

    I know who it is.

  • Anonymous

    So do I.

  • SoThere

    So do I.

  • Sandie

    I never attacked Ryan, and your making this crap up just to get the “group” as you call it to go after each other is lame and typical of childish thought processes. Get a life, loser and stop projecting your alcoholism problems onto me or anyone else..

  • tmanosaurus

    So who is the Lucky guy that tells the sitting President of the United States that he must “come with me”, “We need need to discuss your impeachmnt and immediate removal from office?” 
      Exactly how does this occur and who is watching with complete scrutiny every minte this fallen President is in office. This is a very serious situation. I have lost my confidence completely. We are without a legitimate leader.

  • tmanosaurus

    Actually the Constitution is a civil document not a religion. This particular guideline defers to your faith as you have defined it, the important part of which is reltive to the Constitution that it be not held by man, but in a form of nature , a God or power Supreme in dignity (my words, not a quote), not human. The faith of your choosing. In a Christian sense which is what I try to grasp to my heart mind and soul, but fall so very far short of, Its the wisdom of faith in some higher power that puts things in perspetive and puts order in the universe for souls. The new testament indicts us to use the laws of our land. Would that not be the civil action of impeachment for deception and lying which are both unlawfull for a sitting president?

  • tmanosaurus

    Thanks, it is refreshing to have some help seeing this clearly enough to write,Thanks

  • tmanosaurus

    Those slave owning Aristocrats you so obviously begrudge were at great risk working to state viable orderly objectively designed path to end slavery with wisdom and order. Youre acid eats your studies before your eyes can gather the wisdom from the pages.
       The founders were briliant men and worked solutions to end slavery step by step, knowing begrudgments would become so intense a war that was known by many to surely follow ensued. A more brilliantly attuned circle of men and women seeking a basis for humanity will never again assemble. Those men strove for simple opportunity, not for results , just a chance that their may be a way, a way with the blessings of our creator to navigate what would take time and possibly a terrible war to resolve.  I am sure you are convinced you could have, would have and always will play a more crucial role in assisting a future that preserves the human souls opportuniies and abilities in this life to visit eternity, grace and heaven with the secure knowledge that it wasnt, isnt nor ever will be a hanging offense.
         Remember, these gentlemen just left England where Heads were lopped and chains were worn for unapproved faith and speculation of what the King and Queen could do for not acknowedging their being subjects of the crown. Go live under a king if you like. It seems you’ve a type of jealousy peeking out of your scripts.

  • tmanosaurus

    Is someone holding you aainst your will? Do you need to escape from here, we have a help network, just ask, you get one airline ticket with one clause.

  • http://www.facebook.com/syd.chaden Syd Chaden

    Glenn:  You and your illustrious staff have obviously never read the Ramayana, a Hindu classic that includes the story of Hanuman.  Your discussion of Hanuman suggests that you have, depending upon one’s perspective, either ascended or descended to the level of the mini-minded liberals.  It comes as a shock when someone that you have considered to be a giant among thinkers reveals a tiny mind.  I’ll get over the shock, Glenn.  Read the Ramayana.
    Syd Chaden
    PO Box 6
    Palermo, CA 95968  

  • Sandie

     Blow it out yorrear

  • Sandie

     Oh, by all means, send me an email telling me what you think. Get sober first.

  • Doodaddio

    TCM – I am going to be serious with you – one time only. This isn’t a game, and I am too experienced to play with you.

    If you say one more thing to me, or about me, there will be consequences, and I will be the one choosing what those consequences will be, and it will be at the time of my choosing when they occur as well.
    I don’t think you are really considering the extent to which certain people will go in order to make things occur when they are motivated. This is a promise. I consider this to be a very serious matter, and one that you will be expected to feel the weight of, and respond to appropriately.

    There are some things about people that you really don’t want to know, especially in a personal way. You really should think about this for a long time. Don’t confuse my experience with inability, that would be a big mistake, a really big mistake, and I really don’t want you to make a big mistake. 

    Understand me now, Craig?

  • Anonymous

    Why talk about the MONKEY GOD in the same sentence with the GOD who acts like a MONKEY?

    It’s degrading to the MONKEY GOD,and is not fair to his followers. Their are different cultures out their Glen,and you have derespected their culture by comparing their MONKEY GOD,to a GOD that acts like a Monkey.

    Or am I wrong here? It is confusing? MONKEY GOD,GOD LIKE MONKEY. So toatally confusing.

  • Anonymous

    Very well written,the example of why we hold these truths to be self evident, They are self evident to GOD that what we created in this Nation was as close to LIBERTY as mankind has ever achived,yes many eveil deeds were done along the way,but the few that abused the REPUBLIC for their own interest are no different than the FEW abusing the interest of the many today.

    But without the CONSTITUTION,the BILL of RIGHTS,and the CITIZEN SOLDIER,our faith in GOD and worship of one true GOD will be replaced by the ONE TRUE DECIEVER and this Nation will fall apart,into a terrible place and the light of LIBERTY will not burn again until the LIGHT OF THE LORD grants Liberty to the faithful.

    Just remember this,if in fact your are made to chose,between your belief in GOD,and his son Jesus Christ because our Liberty is lost then you have been given the choice to stand for God and he will not forget,he will stand with you.

    So when you see this evil you will know if that evil is real,the so GOD must be,simple really.

  • The Craig Machine

     Flagged for making threats.

    Who the hell do you think you are? You are the ones that came and personally attacked me with out justification. Treat others how you wish to be treated? I warned all of you not to continue down this path but as usual you people never listen because you are self-righteous hypocrites. Everyone of you knew who I was but you chose to lie repeatedly and smear me. AND YOU ALL DID LIE. I don’t care who you are Doodaddio, you and your group are internet bullies. You are not Conservatives but Fascists and your post above proves it.

    If you have to resort to threats and lies then you are clearly in the wrong. You ever threaten me again and I will be in contact with the authorities. DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR? You are a coward that is in the wrong and can’t admit it. You are a very small man, Dood just like So There and anyone else that hasn’t left that pathetic group of thugs.

    Your threats and intimidation will not work on me you sleazy hack. Your disguting group has no ethics or morals and is the one that betrayed me. What did you arrogant people think was going to happen when you personally smeared me over and over with your made up lies? You bullies pushed me into the corner and got what was coming to all of you. I was minding my own business each and every time CJ has personally attacked me because of his personal vendetta against me. It is all of you that has caused this to happen so quit with your sanctimonious BS.

    Everything you have done proves that you all are incapable of thinking
    anything through so I guess I should take your warning serious and
    contact the proper authorities immediately.

  • Sandie

    Gotcha

  • The Craig Machine

    Holding Romney to the same standard as Obama is acting like Victor? You are whats wrong in the Republican Party, Sandie. You refuse to hold both sides to the same standard which makes you no better than the left. Ask your friend about NP.

    Did you people think you could intimidate me with you left-wing tactics and there wouldn’t be a price to pay? You people can’t think your own actions through and this is why you get yourselves into these predicaments. I warned you all and gave you all outs to stop before it escalated into this situation, you all refused and continued with your personal smears. You only have yourselves to blame.

    I never hid who I was you ignorant drunk and you knew who I was all along. You left your own clues that you did Sandie and so did So There. Which one is it Sandie? Are you incompetent in identifying trolls or did you know who I was? If you can’t tell the difference between me and Victor, you have no business doing what all of you are doing.

    I apologize for mistaking you as VindicatorX. Since you all have so many socks it’s hard to keep track of them all especially when your whole group of bullies were spamming me. I still stand by everything I said about you Sandie. You did stick you nose where it didn’t belong and you didn’t hold your group accountable for their actions, so I will lay the blame at your feet since you are their leader.

    I noticed how you said that you didn’t throw Ryan under the bus, I have to disagree, Sandie. This is your group and you allowed So There to throw Ryan under the bus repeatedly. Not just yesterday but the last time So There attacked me in another thread awhile back. You allowed it to happen because you refused to hold your own side accountable. I thought Ryan was supposed to be your friend, why didn’t you stand up for him when he wasn’t there to defend himself, Sandie?

    Also, reel in your attack dog Dood, he is making threats and I flagged him for doing so. I will press charges against him and this group if it continues. You people have no ethics and are out of control.

    If you have to resort to lies and threats then it means you are in the wrong. It’s that simple Sandie. You people betrayed me when So There personally attacked me relentlessly in now three different threads. You imbeciles use the same attack methods and the same excuses. Your whole group is void of any creativity to come up with fresh ideas. Of course, there isn’t that many people left in your group so that maybe the problem. You people are so predictable.

  • Anonymous

    CRAIG,

    I am just keeping track of you and what passes for your posts.

    As I have mentioned earlier, I am waiting to engage you in a more dramatic fashion, in a more exposed thread so your humiliation will be complete. But I did mention that I would make an occasional comment from time to time, hence:

    As I am schooled in argumentation and debate, I propose a preliminary observation is that you lack an intent in your comments, ergo, what do you hope to achieve with such, certainly you do not expect to persuade any one of anything?

    “Persuasion” is a component of “argumentation,” one’s intent may simply be to establish credibility, or to actually convince one’s counterpart to change his/her position. ( the most difficult challenge in “persuasion) Thus from an intellectual/academic aspect, your comment above, has no point, no reason for its very existence. And such is your creation, so to speak. Ouch!

    Be seeing you.

    Nulli secundus

  • Sandie

    I didn’t throw anyone under the bus and I did not start this attack bit – YOU DID. I had no beef with you before you started all this. You have some issues to get treatment for. Good luck with that. Get a life.

    PS I don’t give a crap what you think of me or anyone else. I also don’t control other people as you seem to think.. LMAO Just remember – you are the one who started the attacks, so expect people to hand it right back to you. In this way, you are like Victor. Devin, you have a few screws loose it seems.

  • The Craig Machine

    Wrong again liar. CJ is the one that attacked me first. The proof is all on this threas, you ignorant drunk.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like he has an entire Ace Hardware loose to me.

  • Anonymous

    Oh I think she got the right liar all right. That would be YOU.

    You see, when you sucker punch people most will find you without honor and your act objectionable.

    Go to hell, and stay there this time.

  • The Craig Machine

    Purveyor, by trolling me because of a previous disagreement shows what a petty intellectually dishonest little man you really are. You prove this by only coming after me and not holding the group that you threw in with accountable. It’s funny that you were sending me private emails complimenting my writing style and telling me how you should be my best friend. What has changed? You are acting like a girl who just got dumped before prom. You are a two faced liar that tells people different things while doing something else. I am glad we are rid of you so you can be a thorn in TFC’s side again instead of ours.

    What you fail to realize in your limited intellect is that I am not debating with these people or you, I am addressing people that know what I am saying is true but chose to lie about it. Furthermore, you can’t have a debate when someone (like you) who refuses to take a position. You like to remain agnostic so you don’t have to defend your position and can change it at anytime so you can say you were right. You have no moral courage and are a rather loathsome individual.

    I have nothing else to say to you other than try practicing NP sometime instead of just preaching about it like a hypocrite. Which happens to be the only thing you are schooled in.

    You are no philosopher, just a over educated idiot.

  • The Craig Machine

    CJ, why don’t you just take all your socks and shove them where the sun don’t shine?

  • Anonymous

    Do you often find yourself having these outbursts against ghosts?

    I think I should contact the proper authorities because it is clear you have escaped from some treatment facility for the mentally unstable. It is quite apparent you are a danger to yourself and others.

    Wait by the phone – someone will be calling you very soon.

  • The Craig Machine

    CJ, your whole group has proven themselves to be the biggest liars who have to resort to threats. You are wrong and always will be.

    How about a little full disclosure on who your little internet moderating company is sub-contracted out to, CJ?

  • Sandie

    Devin, I was referring to YOUR attack on ME, but you would know that if you weren’t so screwed up in the head. As for ignorant drunk, we all know who that is now – that would be you. I wasn’t a part of this until you brought me into it by attacking me, Devin. You can’t deny it because there is a copy of your post where you did it, and everyone saw it. You have no reason to attack me – I didn’t do anything to you.

    An ignorant drunk like you shouldn’t be calling others ignorant drunks. I don’t see anything worthwhile coming of this, so if you continue to respond with this sort of nonsense, lies and total BS, don’t expect any response from me. You are a waste of time. When you sober up tomorrow, read over the crap you have been doing here. You are bringing it all on yourself. Grow up and sober up, Devin. You may have Barb fooled, but you don’t fool me.

  • The Craig Machine

    FYI Sandie, I maybe have a beer or two a month if at all. Nice attempt at deflection but we all know you are trying to project your own condition onto me.

    I have no reason to attack you? Sandie your little game of ignorance negates your previous claims of being my intellectual superior. You came into this thread and told So There aka CJ aka One Man Army aka VindicatorX that I sounded like Victor Tiffany. I have no reason?

    How about the next time you all mind your own business and none of this would have ever happened.

  • SoThere

    Why don’t you take your nonsense somewhere else. You started all this with your paranoia and ignorant attacks.

    You’re a bitter little man with a problem.

  • Anonymous

    Who are you posting to?  

  • Anonymous

    Why have you abandoned me Devin?  It’s me!!!!  YOU!!!

  • Anonymous

    Yes you did. I am Devin or at least I was until I was deleted by Devin to hide all his previous posts here. You know, the last time I went crazy and made all these accusations.

    I was sick but now I’m even sicker.

  • SoThere

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Who is this? Funny stuff.

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    While others talk about it like it is a document on a roll in the latrine. Some of us have great reverence for it, and for the framers of it. The others who have no respect for it generally don’t have respect for anything, including themselves. You can see that on almost every comment site on the web.

  • Anonymous

    So Hanuman is ten stories tall, but only is as strong as 100 men…. that seems pretty weak for a giant monkey god i must say… I would think the an elephant is probably stronger than that.  If you’re gonna invent a giant monkey god, at least make him godly and say “oh he is as strong as a million men.”

  • Anonymous

    Dear Craig,

    I am not “trolling” you, rather I am teaching you, however, your receptivity to my lessons are entirely up to you. Moreover, I am concerned about you, believe it or not? I have read comments and letters of yours that were delightful, humorous and at times insightful. I wish I could converse with that “Craig.”

    However, for the time being you need a metaphoric spanking.

    Today’s lesson (spanking) is: Quote: “not debating,” but simply “addressing people that know what I say is true.” (That statement itself is disturbing) Anyway, I ask you, isn’t that sort of one sided speech similar to what the “Occupation Wall Street” gang claims as justification for their “one sided” speech? Ergo, like the OWS crew, your thoughts are comprised of incoherence, vulgarity and profanity. Thus I ask again, what is your point, who do you expect will respect your ideas or position with such rhetoric. Alas, you find yourself in curious company, don’t you?

    Furthermore, Craig you are rationalizing your fear of ideas that threaten your personal and political perceptions when you make the claim you are “not debating.” As you well know, such is referred to as “cognitive dissonance.” (Note: The previous statement is not pejorative as all humans endure cognitive dissonance, to varying degrees at various times, however, avoidance of new and other’s ideas is a coping method for Craig)

    Lastly, you are bastardizing “neutral principle,” as you don’t completely understand the philosophy. BUT, we’ll save that subject for another day…

    Hugs and Kisses

  • Anonymous

    That was a great comment. Keep them coming, maybe something will get through the armor of hate and resentment this kid is wearing.

    Hugs and Kisses? Now I am starting to feel uncomfortable…

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think he will get it, but I applaud your attempts. Most ignorant drunks don’t listen very well, but hey, maybe Dev will prove to be the exception – or he will prove to be an exceptional ignorant drunk. Drinking and ignorance have a lot in common – they are both self induced, they are self fulfilling, and they can only be cured by the one suffering from either or in some cases both. 

    Don’t be surprised if this ends up being a write-off candidate, like his politics – that’s another thing common between the first two. 

  • Anonymous

    FYI, “Craig”, your feigned ignorance isn’t charming or even novel. Alcoholism isn’t pretty, and any amount of alcohol in an alcoholic’s system creates problems like you are showing us all here. Don’t even try to wriggle out from under the light of scrutiny, after all, it is you who is strutting about with your chest stuck out telling everyone you turned that light on. 

    Newton’s law of energy – for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Mix beer with that and we get you. When you write about others and dump information like some kind of Julian Assange you are going to get in trouble like you are in now. You created the reason, and the problem and now you want to escape the solution. The real world of adults doesn’t play by those rules. You should have thought it out further or sought some expert advice before you embarked upon this foolish misadventure, but then you seem to have a history of doing precisely what you did here, don’t you?

    You have not been appointed to be the arbiter of truth, nor do you have the responsibility to discipline others, and this little tirade you’ve been on for the past few days is the reason for that – you lack the ability to control yourself, hence you should not attempt to control the behavior of others. 

    You should heed your own advice, stop projecting and mind your own business.

  • Anonymous

    Get a mop – your wiki is leaking. Clean up your own messes, be responsible – that is what grown ups do. 

    Speaking of full disclosure, how about this – before you accuse others, take a look at yourself and fix your own problems, of which there are multitudes, first.

  • SoThere

    Who’s the moron posting to? He is a confused little man.

  • Anonymous

    “You have no moral courage and are a rather loathsome individual”

    That is you all over, Craig. Nice projecting there. If you can’t see that you are too blind to understand. 

    “You are no philosopher, just a over educated idiot.”

    Another fine example of your command of english – or more to the point the lack of it.
    Top that with you projected yourself again in that statement, and we have a wiener, and it’s you.

    Nice going. I don’t have to attack you, you are doing it for me, and I am not attacking you, but quoting you and pointing out the hypocrisy you are so blind to. 

    Why don’t you try to impose your will on your pets or something, I am certain you can make something subservient to your demands – it just won’t be anyone here.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not CJ, and I don’t know who the hell you are talking about or to. All I know is you need to holster it.

  • Anonymous

    You first, sock monkey. I am not nor have I ever been CJ.
    Learn a little lesson here and stop the pray and spray.

  • Anonymous

    Hell if I know. I think the kid is just doing the Hollywood pray and spray.

  • Adamant

    It looks like someone is a real drinking problem child here, (named Craig).

    Generally speaking one should avoid initiating a pissing contest when you are not at the top of the hill, and against multiple opponents. The fact you have done so here actually reinforces the observation that you definitively have intellectual superiors here.

    Way to go. My first time on this site and I have the good fortune to witness a complete ignoramus in the mating season.

    Boy am I lucky!

  • Adamant

    I don’t think he’s made it out of the underwear and into the sock drawer yet. Seems like he’s still wearing the whitey-tighties on his head.

  • greywolfrs

    That was not the point, but I can see you have a reading comprehension problem.

  • greywolfrs

    Again, you sound like a whining, crying maggot. Get over yourself, stupid little kid.

  • Anonymous

    You people make me tired. Lighten up guys. I am a Christian. I grew up in a Southern Baptist church and my Dad was a Pastor. There is plenty to laugh about but it does not diminish my faith. Give Glenn a break. It was funny!

  • greywolfrs

    Both of you missed the point, why am I not surprised…
    Dumb M F ers.

  • The Craig Machine

    Dearest Purveyor,

    Your choice of words throughout your posts and emails shows your insincerity. You say you care about me but are so gleeful to TRY to publicly humiliate me? You need to step back and ask yourself, Purveyor, is there anything positive to be gained from what you are doing or is this all for your ego? Do you really think joining in with the rest of these goons is going to help me?

    Will all due sincerity, you are carrying on your vendetta because of your own personal conflicts. Your left side of the brain is fighting your right side because your cannot truthfully defend Romney and know it’s in direct violation of what you espouse your beliefs are. Nobody can honestly reason that Romney has any real solutions to save this country (it only appears that he does when compared to Obama). Does any of Romney’s plans cut the budget deficit where we are spending less than we take in? No, those plans don’t exist, he is only going to tinker around the outside edges and say he gave it his best. Is Romney going to protect your 2nd Amendment rights? His record as Governor says, “No”.

    You refuse to take a position to truly debate Romney’s Record Vs. Romney’s Rhetoric. You yourself has recently stated that you do not know enough to argue one way or the other. You are only voting for Romney because he has a R behind his name. You are doing what you all complain the left is doing, putting Party ahead of Country. I thought that Neutral Principle was holding everyone and everything to the same set of standards (what is wrong is wrong no matter who does it?) but it seems that I was wrong. I thought at one time we were friends, why did you not ever correct me back then instead of letting me go astray with it? Aren’t true friends supposed to keep friends on the right track? If I had a theory that I was trying to promote, I would correct anybody that misunderstood it and expect the same from them.

    I am sorry that I “bastardized” your “neutral principle”. I blame myself for accepting your theory with out a full thesis to support it. I obviously do not understand it and will no longer support it any longer without a full presentation to support and back up your theory. Perhaps if I demanded that first, we would never have arrived at this juncture. I would say this is a valuable lesson to not only myself but all others reading:

    Don’t accept anything without fully understanding what or who you are getting involved with. Especially on the internet and politics.

    You claim that you are upset that everybody misinterpreted your “insightful” analogy comparing people that don’t vote for your candidate to the equivalent of a Vietnam Draft Dodger. I wonder why people would get upset when someone compares them to a draft dodger? By your own definition, your “insightful” analogy is a fallacious argument and was off topic like all of you are here.

    I implore you once again to step-back and see reason. Look at this thread and see what happens when this course is pursued. It only keeps escalating until it reaches critical mass. Everything I have said to you here in this post is meant as constructive criticism. It’s time to stop, I have made my points and you have made yours. Or will you just try to dissect this so you don’t have to answer? I am not looking for a response, these are questions for you to ask yourself and contemplate about.

    Isn’t it time we just go our separate ways?

  • The Craig Machine

    There is the radical Paulista that nobody can stand. I thought you liked whining crying maggots since you were voting for Ron Paul?

  • CaptainAmerica

    “Isn’t it time we just go our separate ways?”

    Odd that this thought didn’t occur to you until now. It would have been better for all concerned for you to have arrived at that conclusion days ago before you attacked a whole bunch of people.

    Why is it that now you are up to your neck in alligators that you decide you want to leave the swamp?

    You certainly are a curious one.

  • Adamant

    I suppose this was what you learned from Normal Vincent Peale, huh?

  • The Craig Machine

    Doodaddio, you still won’t accept responsibility for your own actions. Is it your group of Thugs that attacked me first every time. Everything your group has done is right out of Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”. You have lied, harassed and threatened me in hopes of silencing me.

    I have nothing further to say to you.

  • Adamant

    Here’s an observation for you –
    That’s funny! You say an awful lot for a person with nothing further to say. I hope who ever you are harassing uses this to their advantage in court. You are a joke, and a bad one at that.

  • Anonymous

    NOPE!

  • Sandie

    I don’t care what you do about beer or drinking, but when you make accusations that are false, such as calling me an ignorant drunk when I am no such thing, you put yourself in the hotseat to receive my reply in kind to you. Don’t like it? Then don’t do it. THAT is the kind of behavior that makes you sound like Victor, attacking people, calling them names etc.
    You are the attacker who initiated it here, Devin.
    You are the one who donned a new sock, disguising yourself and sounding off like Vic, but then have the audacity to attack people for responding to you as this new nasty poster? You want to disguise yourself and be nasty, then expect what you get back. If people knew you were Devin, they may not have treated you as they did, they would have just wondered WTF is wrong with him? as they are now!

    You said “How about the next time you all mind your own business and none of this would have ever happened.” …. No, how about the next time you don’t start trouble and then cry about how you get treated. There was no reason for you to attack anyone. If you are having trouble, which you seem to be, get some help.

  • Sandie

    LMAO … you forgot a few aka’s

  • Sandie

    Indeedy

  • Sandie

    Maybe the band is to tight

  • Guest

    The guy is mentally ill

  • Sandie

     Devin, I noticed that here and several other posts that you have made, that you think you are responding to me. LMAO … it isn’t me. You don’t even know who you are responding to, but you try to trash me for not knowing your Craig sock was you immediately? I certainly am not this VindicatorX, or anyone else you think I am. Ergo, the quotes you are attributing to me are not mine either. But that’s OK, you just keep on your crazy man rant. Sober yet?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003006448592 LJ Cambria

    bar b que… hey jarheads… monkey on a stick

  • SoThere

    Nonsense, you attacked me, not Dood, Not Sandie or anyone else in your first post to me. You attacked anyone you could find and you’re still doing it. Seek help, you’re a paranoid sick little man.

  • AdamAnt

    Apparently so.

  • AdamAnt

    Either that or not tight enough…

  • JEWHAWK

    I simply can’t write the words ‘monkey’ and “Obama” in the same sentence without laughing.
    My bad, dawg.

  • AdamAnt

    Not to be indicting you, but it seems the responsibility lies with your actions, not those of others. Violating people’s trust is a serious issue, and it isn’t surprising you want to avoid anything further to say on the subject. 

    Your assessments are incorrect, and you have amends to make. I suggest you concern yourself with your own behavior, you’ve got a lot to work on. 

  • http://twitter.com/Gckhanal Gunjan

    Obama or his mother mistook some details of the story of Hanuman. In story, Hanuman could actually display his huge image if necessary but he had same stature as humans. And he had power of 1000 elephants. Hanuman and his army did not live with humans. They lived in forest and had their own kingdom. Hanuman and his monkey army helped a king with great moral, RAMA, to fight against a devilish king.
     Hindu religion is so colorful and vivid but unfortunately the real science, facts, histories are complexly tangled behind the reiterated stories for ages (example, Ayurveda, Yoga, Kamasutra, Reflexology, Meditation, etc and etc were all written in stories not Journals!!). We may sound stupid but our believes have strong roots and that go till many thousands years BC. The details of those stories are so relevant to present world that it is difficult to ignore. Discovery of Harrappans and then under water city of Dwaraka help us not to falter on our belief.  Co-existence of homo sapiens and other human species are already hot topics. We already know that our gene carry little traits of some other human species. I will not be surprised if one day human like skeletons with tails are discovered !!

  • Anonymous

    Craig is absolutely correct, by not holding our Candidates or members of Congress accountable we will end up repeating the same  mistakes. Which is how we arrived at this juncture in history.

  • Anonymous

    Sandie, you are a liar, you knew who this was from a previous engagement with me and Parker, where you joined in when we were talking with Purveyor and Edward O’Hare. And you brought in the bad trolls because of your constant never ending harassment.

    My mistake was even posting to you again. You will never learn, you are incapable of letting go of that one-up-man-ship you are addicted to. I have files, I have whole posts copied. 

  • Anonymous

    Not in reference to himself.. to the methods you guys use to harass others who don’t agree with you 100%. It makes no difference if they’re conservative or not. You all swoop in and attack to over-whelm your target.

  • Anonymous

    Excuse me why I avail myself of your reply button Craig.
    I didn’t follow these guys because their tiresome, relentless, repetitive posts literally filled my screen with garbage, because they think they are the ones to be the Thought Police.

    Sandie, you manipulative lying so and so. You instigate all these dang situations because it makes you feel important, needed, like you are this holier than thou secret freaking agent or something. All your dang scheming has ever wrought is disaster.

    You are the one to lie. And I am not convinced that others aren’t either, because you have been there where we posted. Don’t be talking about danged “Socks” either.
    The drama queen of “Socks” 

    At least Craig only had a couple out of necessity. And you didn’t mind that as long as he was doing your dirty work with Victor Tiffany the ultimate troll. You don’t have excuses , except these threads have become so dead you have to use them to make it look like you are liked- when hardly any of you guys are anymore.

    You’ve become the very thing you swore you hated. When you decided to double down on the trolls after you discovered Glen was abandoning US, his supporters- you all took an oath to carry on!

    Well guess what? You’ve accomplished your aims, you’ve turned into that which you swore you hated.

  • VindicatorX

    If you want peace you have a funny way of going about finding it. Try making some, it isn’t hard to do. This kind of post just causes more division and damage. Take it offline if you must talk to someone – the problem all started when someone made it a public display, and pardon me for saying so, but digging at the wound isn’t going to heal it.

  • VindicatorX

    I am not sure the False God stuff is gaining Craig much popularity. Sure, the voters have to hold both Candidates and Congress accountable, but all the administrative overhead in the Executive branch should be accountable as well, and that is the one lesson we have learned from this administration.

    One should never disrespect another person’s beliefs, God isn’t packaged neatly in a box with a bow on it and a name on top. It’s not wise to persecute people based on their beliefs; that didn’t go over so well in the 1930′s – 1940′s as I recall.

  • VindicatorX

    Please take this offline.

  • VindicatorX

    This isn’t the place for this.

  • SoThere

    Air the little twits laundry for another week.

  • Anonymous

    So There,

    Is this entire issue, to the best of your knowledge, about Devin and other’s belief that they are justifiably compelled to act as “conscientious objectors,” so to speak, by not voting for Romney or voting third party?

    I stumbled into this thread by way of serendipity and am stunned at how an otherwise reasonable group of conservatives could be so off target and fratricidal? OR, is there an issue at play here that I am unaware of?

    How can a group of otherwise like minded people become so venomous and distracted? Or, maybe I should simply forget about it and move on? This debate seems to have a life of its own…

    Purveyor

  • SoThere

    This is the second time Craig did this and the target was me in both cases. He changes his ID, doesn’t let anyone know and then when I post to his new ID he thinks that I’m following him around and harassing him.

    My post to his comment was about Obama and the Chicago machine but he took it as a direct attack on him.

    Like I said, this is the second time he’s done this, but he didn’t stop with me, he attacked his friends also and they responded in kind.

    My first post to his new sock wasn’t about him and it wasn’t attacking him, it was about Obama.

    Yes there’s an issue but it’s not with me. It originates in his paranoid mind.

  • The Craig Machine

    Let us go through your lies one by one CJ.

    “This is the second time Craig did this and the target was me in both
    cases.”

    A tactic of CJ and Sandie is to post to other people while personally attacking their intended target. CJ aka SoThere attacked me in a post to somebody else and still claims he is innocent, Sandie has done the very same thing to me in this thread as with others. CJ also likes to conveniently forget the first time right before the second time where he attacked me in the exact same manner. This is the third time CJ aka SoThere has done this to me.

    “He changes his ID, doesn’t let anyone know and then when I post
    to his new ID he thinks that I’m following him around and harassing him.”

    Who the hell made you and your gang of Jackboot Thugs the Gestapo on Disqus? It is none of your business who I am or anybody else for that matter. This is another one of your harrassment tactics to intimidate people. How about a little full disclosure about yourself CJ, who does your company have contracts with on the internet? That might explain much of your bias.

    “Like I said, this is the second time he’s done this, but he didn’t stop
    with me, he attacked his friends also and they responded in kind.”

    Another provable lie CJ, this is the third time you have attacked me using the same exact methods. You do not understand the word friend. A friend is someone you like and trust. Seeing that I never liked or trusted any of you (and for good reason), we were never friends. Furthermore, it was your goon squad that came in and attacked me.

    “My first post to his new sock wasn’t about him and it wasn’t attacking him, it was about Obama.”

    Your went back and altered your original post from just “Nonsense. LMAO” to include Obama long after I responded. By simply saying “”Nonsense. LMAO” without backing up your assertions is complete nonsense (notice how I didn’t laugh?). You were already called out on editing this post and still you try to use it to cover your new lies. Now you have been caught in a red-handed lie, CJ. Have you no shame? Please keep showing everybody how you and your little group practice your own brand of Taqiyya.

    “Yes there’s an issue but it’s not with me. It originates in his paranoid mind.”

    Considering that you are the one that has been caught lying repeatedly, I would say you are the one that has issues, not me. Your whole premise for attacking me in this thread has been proven a lie. Time to go on a soul searching mission CJ, you have lost yours.

  • The Craig Machine

    Let us go through your lies one by one CJ.

    “This is the second time Craig did this and the target was me in both
    cases.”

    A tactic of CJ and Sandie is to post to other people while personally
    attacking their intended target. CJ aka SoThere attacked me in a post to
    somebody else and still claims he is innocent, Sandie has done the very
    same thing to me in this thread as with others. CJ also likes to
    conveniently forget the first time right before the second time where he
    attacked me in the exact same manner. This is the third time CJ aka
    SoThere has done this to me.

    “He changes his ID, doesn’t let anyone know and then when I post
    to his new ID he thinks that I’m following him around and harassing him.”

    Who the hell made you and your gang of Jackboot Thugs the Gestapo on
    Disqus? It is none of your business who I am or anybody else for that
    matter. This is another one of your harassment tactics to intimidate
    people. How about a little full disclosure about yourself CJ, who does
    your company have contracts with on the internet? That might explain
    much of your bias.

    “Like I said, this is the second time he’s done this, but he didn’t stop
    with me, he attacked his friends also and they responded in kind.”

    Another provable lie CJ, this is the third time you have attacked me
    using the same exact methods. You do not understand the word friend. A
    friend is someone you like and trust. Seeing that I never liked or
    trusted any of you (and for good reason), we were never friends.
    Furthermore, it was your goon squad that came in and attacked me.

    “My first post to his new sock wasn’t about him and it wasn’t attacking him, it was about Obama.”

    Your went back and altered your original post from just “Nonsense. LMAO”
    to include Obama long after I responded. By simply saying “”Nonsense.
    LMAO” without backing up your assertions is complete nonsense (notice
    how I didn’t laugh?). You were already called out on editing this post
    and still you try to use it to cover your new lies. Now you have been
    caught in a red-handed lie, CJ. Have you no shame? Please keep showing
    everybody how you and your little group practice your own brand of
    Taqiyya.

    “Yes there’s an issue but it’s not with me. It originates in his paranoid mind.”

    Considering that you are the one that has been caught lying repeatedly, I
    would say you are the one that has issues, not me. Your whole premise
    for attacking me in this thread has been proven a lie. Time to go on a
    soul searching mission CJ, you have lost yours. 

  • Sandie

     Not at all. When Devin donned the new ID I had no idea. I was just guessing like everyone else. I eventually figured it out, especially when he divulged things that he could only know from being at TFC or getting from conversations with you. I brought bad trolls in? All by myself? That is a spurious accusation.  And who would those trolls be that were in that thread here on Becks?  WTF does this have to do with anything? Nothing. Apparently you are looking for someone to blame all this on, but instead of the source and cause – YOUR FRIEND DEVIN who yo obviously feel a desire to protect,  you select me from the crowd to take your accusations and abuse? I isn’t going to work. Vent your anger on someone else’s doorstep.

    “You will never learn, you are incapable of letting go of that one-up-man-ship you are addicted to.” I don’t have that problem, but you have just shown posting here after several days have passed and the dust settled, that YOU do.

    “I have files, I have whole posts copied.” So do I – as well as the threads. Do you really want to start this pissing contest with me?

    WTF is your problem?
     

  • Sandie

     And that is exactly what you just did here in smearing me. You don’t learn because yo are stupid or are you drunk again?

  • SoThere

    Who knew it was you? No one. I added to my post but that still didn’t attack you, it was about Obama.

    You keep your delusions pal, but you should understand one thing Devin, when you attack others they will attack you back. You’re nothing special here and you’ve displayed your paranoia more than one. You’re sick, get some help.

  • SoThere

    Lets go through your ignorant post one step at a time.

    My post to you attacked Obama but you’re too ignorant to see that.

    If by calling your post “Nonsense” is an attack then you’re a sick little man.

    You constantly complain about others changing their ID’s and yet you have done it multiple times yourself. You’re a hypocrite.

    You mean you attacked me, liar.

    I added to my post but it still wasn’t an attack on you you moron.

    Who made you the edit police, you idiot? You don’t control the “edit” button you little twit.

    The issue has been and always will be with you and I strongly suggest that you do some soul searching.

    You’re a paranoid little moronic twit, now go and join people like Vicky or strtlk, you are now at their level of stupidity.

    Nice attack hypocrite, you should get some help for your paranoid delusions, you need it.

  • Sandie

     a_bone_2_pick:
    You could have replied directly to me as I am to you, regardless of
    having just dropped me from your “follow” by selecting the comment out
    of the profile. Let’s see, where to begin – I guess take it in order?

    Really, “Thought Police”, ‘we’ wouldn’t think of doing such a thing,
    besides,  you have made that your job, telling people what, to whom, and
    how to post? Admonishing Purveyor and others for their posts?

    You
    can call me any names you want, I don’t instigate squat. That is done
    by people like Devin here, or Victor. …. and now in this case YOU!  I
    respond in kind or self defense, or to stick up for a friend – you
    should know that!   It has been several days, yet you jump in the middle
    of this old thread to drag it around some more. You are way off base
    with your accusations. I am not manipulative, and don’t need to feel
    important, needed,  holier or whatever misperceptions  you have, or
    names you want to call me.

    You want to talk socks? You have had
    what – a half dozen or so yourself? Shall we name them ALL? It isn’t a
    crime to have different IDs is it? All of us have had them, but if it
    makes you feel better, by all means single me out even though others
    have probably more than I do.  I don’t care what Devin does for IDs, but
    when he disguises himself so no one knows who he is and then he gets
    himself in hot water, that is his problem. Everyone takes that chance
    when they do it. Devin never did anything for me – if he did any ‘dirty
    work’  on Victor it was of his own doings. Remember, you were right
    along with it a while yourself…. different sock of course.

    Honestly, the rest of your post sounds like a jumble of stuff your mind
    made up because you  have decided to lash out at someone. Are you going
    to attack the others too?  If you want to stick by Devin I don’t care,
    but don’t place the blame on others that should rest squarely with
    him… and don’t single me out to take your misplaced anger. I won’t sit
    quietly and take it – you should know that. If you have any more issues
    you want to take up with me, do it in email.

    It might be best if you calm down and drop this before you end up causing problems for yourself and others?

  • Anonymous

    It seems that you forgot all about me. I’m still here and I know what you’ve done.

  • SoThere

    Devin has never done anything for me either. He is a whiner and a trouble maker. He’s lonely I think, he should get a pet.

  • Sandie

    He has one…. or is he the pet?

  • Sandie

    He has one…. or is he the pet?

  • Sandie

    Actually, you have had me on “follow” since 4 AM EDT – before you made this post. In any event, you could have posted to me directly by selecting the post to reply to from my profile. But you already knew that.

  • Sandie

    Your mistake was to single me out and post to me in the first place.

  • jiujie798

    tinyurl.com/cyk9xz2

  • Rejin Rajendran

    Hanuman is not a “True god in  the sense of the word” in hindu mythology. He was a member of the
    Vanara (meaning monkey) tribe, which was ruled by the truly unbeatable
    Vali, because the already mighty Vali will get half the power of his
    opponent if the opponents faces him face-to-face in battle; even if the
    opponent is god. That is why Rama (who is said to be god incarnate
    himself) had to shoot the arrow from a tree behind Vali, while Vali was
    fighting his brother Sugriva. It can be said Vali might be the true
    unbeatable “thing” in Hindu mythology as far as a fair fight goes.
    Even Hanuman could not defeat Vali in a straight fight. In fact,
    Hanuman was just a solider in Vali’s army. Funny thing is even though
    Hanuman is very powerful, he received a curse from some sage that he
    would forget all his power and live in some sort of amensia and serve in
    the Vanara army. He will only regain the consciousness of his true
    power, later when someone talks to him about his true self during the
    course of the Rama-Ravana battle. The stories goes on and on and on and
    on and on…………………………..It is fascinating to read, even though it is
    mythical…………………….

  • Rejin Rajendran

    It would take more than a lifetime to completely read all the Indian mythologies, even though only a very small percentage of the original scriptures are available today………

  • Rejin Rajendran

     As far the story behind Hanuman being tied up, it goes like this…Hanuman has a boon from his birth itself that he could not be harmed by any weapon. When Hanuman went to rescue Sita from Ravana, Ravana sent his son Indrajith himself to capture Hanuman. Indrajith
    was a great hero. He fought with Hanuman for a while and then shot the
    Brahmasthra. Hanuman wanted to show respect to the weapon carrying the
    power of Lord Brahma and allowed himself to be tied up by it for a
    while. The rakshasas were excited and in great glee. Indrajith took Hanuman to
    Ravana’s court. The sight of Hanuman threw Ravana into a towering rage.
    The radiance of Ravana’s face astonished Hanuman.

    Even Devendra, the King of Heaven, was afraid of Ravana. But Hanuman was
    fearless. He told Ravana why he had gone there. He said, “Look, Ravana,
    it is not proper for you to kidnap Sitadevi and make her suffer like
    this. You have performed tapas (long prayer and meditation) Just think,
    can you face Rama? You will be destroyed, and your friends, relatives
    and this city, too, will be destroyed. Give up this evil way and restore
    Sita to Rama.”

    His words were like adding fuel to the fire. Ravana’s anger blazed. He
    ordered the rakshasas to kill Hanuman. But his brother Vibheeshana
    intervened; he said that it was not right according to the principles of
    diplomacy to kill the enemy’s messenger.

    Ravana agreed with him; he said to his servants, “Tails are ornamental to monkeys. So set fire to Hanuman’s tail.”

    At once the rakshasas wrapped some cloth around Hanuman’s tail, poured oil over it and set fire to it.

    They paraded Hanuman all over the city.

    Now Hanuman was in a high rage. Still he was glad that the rakshasas
    were showing the whole city to him. He carefully noted the hidden
    fortresses, the topography and other useful details.

    Then all at once he leapt high. He freed himself from the ropes. He beat
    up all the rakshasas following him and stood on a high place. He set
    fire to all the buildings nearby. The houses of Ravana’s ministers and
    commanders began to burn. Very soon the whole city of Lanka was in
    flames.

    But suddenly Hanuman realized his mistake. In his enthusiasm to burn
    Lanka, he had forgotten that Sita was there. His heart was about to
    burst. Quickly he flew to Ashokavana. He saw Sita sitting under a tree.
    His anxiety was at an end. He touched her feet and received her
    blessings; then he flew back across the ocean.

    Jambavantha, Angada and others were waiting for Hanumantha. The sight of Hanuman brought them immense relief.

    Thank you………………………………………It is just mythology……………………………..

  • Rejin Rajendran
  • Rejin Rajendran
  • Anonymous

    I’m supposed to do a free trial when you guys can’t even talk about an American god? Sheesh.

  • Riva Behl

    god bless u gleen beck…u need lot of blessings and start respecting all religion