Stick with the founders and not the progressives. Truth is what the founders have spoken, and what we have forgotten.

Besides – Biden is clueless, incompetent, and is the second best enemy of the democrats against themselves next to Obama himself.

I believe what’s being asked of rich people is an undefined fair share.  It continues to baffle me that liberals can’t equate that term “fair share” with “flat tax.”  This redistribution of wealth, this health care for everybody, this class warfare crap…it’s all based on the premise that we should all be the same, all be “equal.”  Well…why can’t all people, regardless of income bracket, be taxed the same…ISN’T THAT THE LITERAL DEFINITION OF FAIR?!

No, according to the Obama Regime, it’s not fair that some people have money and some people don’t.  OF COURSE IT’S NOT FAIR!  But it’s reality.  Based on many variables, about 90% of which have to do with the amount of ambition within a person, some people have more than others.  Again I repeat, this is reality, and Obama is trying to combat reality by taxing rich people at a higher rate than others.  Liberal politicians actually think that corporate money that is stored offshore is stolen money.  Truth be told, the people who want to get their hands on that money, and can’t, are pissed off…President Obama listen, taxes will always be there, but the people who pay them might not be.

“The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want.  But you will not always have me.”  Mark 14:7  NIV

Really the rich does nothing what about jobs Biden or is this more on you didn’t build that the government did stupidity. How about taxing them for everything from their boats, cars, property, and everything else you can get your dirty big government hands on.

That would depend on which one or group of the “founders” you are speaking about. To say ALL of them would be incorrect. If you do not believe me, look into Hamilton. He was a Federalist, at the inception of the country. He also formed the first political party, the Federalists. Look at the tenets of the Federalists.

I tend to identify with the anti-Federalists….

I would like the administration to outline exactly what the new taxes would go to. How about we ask them for an accounting of where the money will be allocated? Why should we just give more money to an administration who abuses our tax dollars by using it to buy votes from unions, etc. They don’t use the money to pay down the debt, rather they use it for entitlements. Give the American people a reason to raise taxes and then a promise that it will be used wisely. I have not heard any of that. All I hear is to pay your fair share. That just angers people who are already paying through the nose and not getting anything for it. We need leadership, not the bill for the GSA to have a party, Planned Parenthood to hand out condoms and other sectors that are abusing our tax dollars. Enough is enough!

WOW! Does this guy ever stop and think about what is dropping out of his pie hole? How many times can this guy’s alligator mouth overload his hummingbird ass?

I must say it again. Biden is VP for two reasons:

1. He is the only person on the planet that could make Obamao look smart.
2. No one will assasinate Obamao knowing this idjit would become president.

I do not want a promise from a bunch of kooks who we know will never keep them. They want more tax revenue? Repeal NAFTA and start charging tariffs on ALL imports. Done.

We could never trust their promise. I was just saying it would be nice to hear something on that line before raising taxes. I know it will never happen.

Envy and a little discomfort will drive men to do what no one should. When I was in College I often rode freight trains to get home for a weekend. I was a qualified brakeman and fireman and that was how I was paying for school, but I didn’t work for the company that ran through my hometown so I didn’t ride in the caboose. Yes this was long enough ago that they still ran cabooses. One night I was on a way freight, stopping to pick up cars all along the line. It was cold and there were two other men riding the train. I had an old army poncho to keep me warm and one of the others decided that he was going to take that poncho from me and if I didn’t want to part with it, he had a knife and would use it. Fortunately, I was up on one of the hopper cars above them and they didn’t know I was there. I heard the conversation and kept out of sight until we were crossing a road that lead to the paralleling freeway. I hitch hiked the rest of the way home. Now I work at a nuclear chemical plant and I have heard a lot about being prepared as Glenn says, so I have food storage. Several of us were talking at work about it and one of the operators, a fairly highly paid individual, said that he wouldn’t store food, he would just kill his neighbors who had it and take theirs. He was only half joking. Someone asked why he wouldn’t take mine and he said that he had gone hunting with me and I was way too good a shot for him.

Just a question. If the highest tax bracket is 35%…how does a multimillionaire, for example Mitt  Romney, only pay 13%? Something I’m missing?

I just got this off Yahoo, posted by a “not a fan of Obama”   Hysterical!

A teacher asked her 6th grade class how many of them were Obama fans.

Not really knowing what an Obama fan is, but wanting to be liked by the

teacher, all the kids raised their hands except for Little Johnny.

The teacher asked Little Johnny why he has decided to be different.. again.

Little Johnny said, “Because I’m not an Obama fan.”

The teacher asked, “Why aren’t you a fan of Obama?” Johnny said, “Because

I’m a Republican.”

The teacher asked him why he’s a Republican. Little Johnny answered, “Well,

my Mom’s a Republican and my Dad’s a Republican, so I’m a Republican.”

Annoyed by this answer, the teacher asked, “If your mom was a #$%$ and your

dad was an idiot, what would that make you?”

Little Johnny replied, “That would make me an Obama fan.”

Capital gains my dear; money earned on their investments. What do you think Warren Buffett, Oprah Winfrey, Bill Gates, Harvey Weinstein, Joe Biden, Bill & Hillary Clinton and Ellen DeGenerus pay?     All Liberals;  all paying about the same as Romney.

BTW……the Yahoo and Huff posts are looking good for Mr. Romney.     If Obama does win, the election was rgged.    

 See..I was missing something!!  But I would say that seems a little unfair…for ANYONE..to make that kind of money..and not pay more in taxes. But that’s just my opinion!

They all pay 35/40% in taxes.   The 13% is on top of the other taxes.   Add them up - that’s big bucks…much more than you and I pay!

@AmericanIrish……..What, you never want to be able to have such worries?    Walk in their shoes first, then get back to me.

You know, they are liars.    All this is being said for the purpose of those that will never know what it takes to succeed!    The Liberals are scared ^%$# that our citizens should think they can make money…lots of it and won’t need the government…or Liberals for that matter!

How about taxing them for everything from their boats, cars, property, and everything else you can get your dirty big government hands on. http://FinancialMayor.blogspot.com

Yup…there’s is something your missing… if you knew anything about the tax code you would know lives on his capital gains not earned income..different tax structure…money made on investment is taxed at a different rate…

There is bracket and rate.  That is how 50% of Americans who work pay no taxes despite being in a tax backet.  Moreover, there is a difference in the rates on income and capital gains.  Income tax rates are higher than capital gains rates as the democratic Congresses over the past four or so decades have made it so.  Of course as we look at GE (O’s job czar) 14 billion income and 0% tax rate and this year GM paying 0% things start to become sharply into focus.  Of course, we should also consider in addition to tax rate, the help rate, as charitable donations reduce the income tax rate, as Romney donates 20% to charity, which is millions per year.  Now do you know whay you are missing.  Need more info?  Want to know what Obama and Biden and GE and GM and the 50% of working Americans who pay no taxes are missing?  Do you receive all of your taxes back at the end of the year, do you donate millions to charity like Romney.  If not, maybe best not to criticize.  Maybe better to focus on those not putting any effort at all toward the load, huh?

To all those sending me scolding replies..please stop. I get it..I’m not a scholar on taxes,,etc.. That’s why I said,…” Am I missing something?”  But thanks for the suggestions..

Simple, the tax bracket you are discussing is Income Tax, Romney pays Capital Gains, which is a completely different tax. Income Tax is what one pays for working at a job, Cap Gains is the tax on investments.

It’s possible because he donates over a million dollars to charity every year.

Which president had the War on Poverty?  Was that LBJ?  How did that work out?  When you

give people money for not working, why would anyone want to work?  You know what freebies

(Thank you, taxpayers!) ”the poor” are getting from Uncle Sugar.  No poor in any part of the

world (probably) have it as good as the poor in America.  Why wouldn’t people want to come

and live here, especially the poor, and often, illegally.        The wealthy in the US are paying the

highest taxes than—what’s the figure?—-85-90% of the rest of the people.  Guess Biden needs

to have a bigger bite out of his paycheck to understand.  But, perhaps his income isn’t that high.

ARA,  liked your post.  Caboose?  Really?  You’re one old coot, aren’t you?  Don’t get

mad, because I am probably in your age bracket.  I remember seeing many a caboose

go by on the RR tracks near my grandparents home.   Hey!  I’ll bet you’re even old

enough to remember when there weren’t any TVs around!   And the movies had two

features, a newsreel, a cartoon and the coming attractions.  Cheers!   : )

And Biden’s just dumb enough to believe his own lies. The class warfare card he and Obama are playing expects us to be ignorant of math (taxing the rich at 100% wouldn’t make a significant dent in our deficit problem), history (socialist governments never work in the long term, and never on a large scale), human behavior (constant handouts quickly create fierce dependency), and, of course, English.

The American people aren’t going to buy that snake oil this November.

like Nathan said I am blown away that a student able to profit $6114 in four weeks on the network. did you look at this (Click on menu Home)

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goo.gl/FKigo

don’t think that Joe Biden doesn’t know what he is doing, he most certainly does.  He is diverting attention off Obama so he can sneak in all the changes that are fixing to happen.  He is a great distractor – look at all the media focusing on idiot Joe.  What a shame focus on what is happening not on him.

There’s nothing worse than leftist false philanthropy. 

Now we begin to hear about how Obamacare was little more than the opening efforts at unionizing the healthcare industry.  Small shocker there.  The the new left wing communist it’s all about how they can get more power and money and keep it for themselves and entrench themselves in the halls of government. 

The November Election cannot come soon enough; counting-down the days and rehashing the idiocy of this Obama/Biden Administration is taking a toll on so many of us entrepreneurial-minded people, my finger has had 3 1/2 years of training – training for the day I can “push” the Romney-Ryan button. So to all of you out there; keep your finger in good-physical condition, make election day the day your finger ‘sings’ triumphantly to the sound of Freedom!  Once Obama is cast from the White House I shall scream from my rooftop, “Free at last, Free at last, Free at Last!”

Joe is technically correct, no rich person has been asked.  It’s been demanded and stolen without his permission.  Democrats are liars, thieves and baby killers.   ALL DEMOCRATS.  If you support that party, you support their cause and promote their beliefs.  I have no respect for democrats and I am working hard to do no business with them….it’s just my way of giving back.  After all it’s for the children. 

Let’s be clear.  As Christians, we understand that everything we have belongs to God.  We are mere stewards of those gifts.  How we use them is something we are accountable to God for. God(the three in one) has given us the great commission.  So when the democrats,liberals etc. steal from you, they are really stealing from God who will deal with them in his own way.

Look on line and see how Italy has had a tremendous increase of border interdiction of cash,gold, silver, gems and everything else of value being taken out of the country in order to protect the owners of resources for the Italian Greek moment.
Conspicuous wealth for now should be avoided.  I have been doing it for years.  People are jealous creatures, especially when hard times fall.

Thank you Lord Jesus for the recent much needed rain giving relief to both man and beast.  May it and all blessinngs we receive be used for your glory and the benefit of the bretheren.
He causes the rain indeed to fall upon the just and inkust alike.

I keep hearing that our President and the progressive leadership in Washington believe we need to tax the rich more. OK. Let’s see what they really believe. Leaders lead by example. Look where a person spends their time and money and you know what they really believe.  Progressive party, if you really believe the rich should pay more taxes, please lead by example. Don’t wait. Leaders lead they don’t follow.  Pay your 80% tax now without the tax law forcing you. Progressive, remember your leadership shows us all what you really believe.

Biden will be good for yuks when Paul Ryan destroys him in the VP debate.  At least Obama says that they only haven’t been contributing their “fair share.”  Biden simply goes all the way and says they’ve contributed “nothing.”  I’m also amused at how he uses the word “asked” in all of this, as if taxation is a polite, dignified policy.

When will anyone ask Obama “WHAT is the rich’s fair share that you keep asking for?  Will you define “fair” for us?”  Such stuttering would ensue that Obama might fall into an epileptic fit to end all fits. 

Don’t simply pin all of our nations ills upon Democrats, because there are a LOT of Republicans who are just as guilty as the Dems as far as evil, degenerate policies.  If independent-minded patriots hadn’t come along and formed the Tea Party, the GOP would STILL be fighting over the dumb-and-evil vote with the Democrats, and those of us who know better would be completely ignored.

You are half right which is worse than being all wrong. For decades the democrats have taken our country down the path of socialism all the while successfully painting any conservative as a hater of the poor etc. etc. Many republicans caved in to the rhetoric. We also had periods of pushback by conservatives like a pendulum. This encouraged liberals to run as conservatives in conservative districts in order to get elected. But the pendulum always swings back more to the left than it does to the right which is why we have a progressively more socialist country.
That socialism is killing our country and although you have a 10% claim of truth that republicans are liberal, it is certain that 90% is deservedly put on the democrat party.
I agree that the GOP needs to have a house cleaning of the social issue liberal wing of the party who want to be liked by the deviants of europe but want capitalism here at home. They are fence sitters and fence sitters need to be rid of.

Beck,

Everyone wants a book out of these letters.  Can you put someone on it and donate the money to the troops?

JD

 . . .

“It’s a tax!”

February 15, 2012

Dear President Obama,

In 1961 Ronald Reagan gave a characteristically prescient speech with regard to socialisms advance in The United States.  Mr. Reagan warned in that speech on the dangers of socialized medicine; he informed us that the American people would not accept socialism outright, but under the banner of liberalism we would accept every facet of socialism; and for the past sixty years the entitlement programs that started as humanitarian safety nets, under Democratic majorities, have since grown into failed retirement and welfare programs to the exclusion of private investment and jobs, and the most fraud ridden delivery of health care any nation has ever witnessed.  Those people were able to do that by at first selling it as “insurance” and then calling it a “tax” when it came to the courts.  A power that the federal government clearly has, yet, had they failed in that mission to socialize this nation we would not be trillions of dollars in debt and deficit.  Sucks to be us!

So, tomorrow, I’m going to start a company.  I’m going to start telling people I have the cure for cancer.  I’ll advertise on the internet.  I’m going to ship them a bottle of “medicine.”  They are going to send me their money.  I’m going to take their money and make more “medicine.”  I’m going to keep doing this until the FBI shows up and hauls me to the clink.  If I as an individual cannot commit financial fraud why can the federal government?  That’s almost a stupid question at this point.  The answer is; because they can.  So they do.  Day in and day out.  Yet, no federal agent is coming to knock on your door, though from what I hear one may be coming to Mr. Holders door, letting guns walk into the wrong hands, who does that?  Regardless, the federal government is trillions in, debt and deficit, and our challenges are growing both internationally and domestically.

When I consider the precarious nature of this nation and The Depression we all face. Then I sit and watch politicians and appointed budget directors act like petty animals and not good stewards of our nation it enrages me. I read a few days ago that vital leukemia drugs that treat children are not in sufficient supply to meet the demand. I read that a driver who had their license suspended seven times, at the ripe old age of 23, was still operating a motor vehicle, I read that someone is going to be incarcerated for harming a cat for 90 days, yet, we let recidivist pedophiles walk the streets. Amidst all of this insanity, The United States is in vital need of growth, production, and investment. It is in vital need of action, not words, all I hear and see are words. Well, words are nice, but I’d rather see people, working, traveling, driving more, buying cars, and homes. I’d rather see families growing and pursuing their American dream and in doing that helping me build mine.

Mr. Reagan knew that is how you run a nation, and that’s the America President Reagan rekindled into being.  That’s the America I want my children to grow up in.  That’s the American dream I want your kids to grow up in.  Unfortunately, liberal democrats view children as a disease or an inconvenience, I see them as innocent souls raring to consume and with a little help from some good parents and a swift kick in the rear, make their mark on a world in dire need of it.  But that is not today.  Today we get two timing flip flopping politicians, we get the word games with regard to “contraception,” and liberals push as much fornicating on our young minds as possible, hope they never do it, but if they do, they should do it out of the bounds of marriage and wearing a condom!  Is that what you want for your children?  Are you sure?

Respectfully,

Joe Doakes

 When some one (or The One) says the rich should pay their “fair share”, what are they really saying? It would be more “transparent” to say : “I want to collect more (not fair, just more) taxes from a minority I can oppress with the help of my supporters and SEIU (who know where the rich people live), so I can spend more money on my supporters and SEIU”. The One has said he knows that his tax plans will not help grow the US Economy, he just knows it is the “right thing to do”. If one believes that getting elected is more important than helping the citizens who depend on getting a job in a growing economy to reach their piece of the American dream, maybe one can believe that one’s own election is all that matters.   

Would “Every Dime of Taxes” be a fair share?

Unless you run your own business, your income source is paid by an employer (or taxes or donations), and that employer pays you extra (that is: “enough”) money in order for you to pay your state, local, and Federal taxes. So, the employer is paying every dime of taxes if you are not employing yourself, even then you’d be an employer of yourself. Every dime of taxes ultimately comes from employers.

Obviously, employers derive their funds from the difference between the cost and price of goods and services, so the price and quantity of goods and services sold must be high enough to cover all costs involved, then the government takes evey dime of taxes.

A local employer – a fine man – had a sales pitch: “Folks, if I don’t sell, I don’t eat.” We do not
grow our own food – so, if a whole lot of employers do not sell, a whole lot of people do not eat as they would prefer, they will live on government aid and other donations until the private sources of employment are abolished – see North Korean famines, Chinese famines, Russian famines, which are worst in Socialist nations – and the extermination choices they have made to be able to feed the chosen survivors. Al Gore and the Progressives from Margaret Sanger forward want less humans on the earth – so it is not hard for a Progressive or some Liberals and some Democrats to believe that The One should be re-elected to finish “the right thing to do”.

Monopolies and companies too “big to fail” would not be so common if employers did not have to merge to share the legal and accounting and environmental and other costs of trying to: 1) get along with politicians and regulators, 2) comply with politicians and regulators, 3) fight with politicians and regulators, 4) donate to and lobby and dine with politicians and regulators, and 5) put up with politicians and regulators who can get re-elected after causing death or mayhem that would get a mere voter locked up, if the politician does not belong to that evil, sanctimonious, rich white Republican Party that seems to have a real conscience and real compassion. Ideally the party of “real” will win in November, to begin solving real problems. 

The people who should be paying 50% of the taxes today are the Liberals!

200+ years ago the country and the world was a different place. Smart men of their time, sure, of their time. Mr. Beck here is not. 1913 before all these taxes, America was better? Better off? We should only hope to go back to times like those?

Ah yes, the early 1900′s. The dream that existed before income taxes. Or was it?

Roads and streets and railways without taxes? Out of roughly 76,000,000 Americans in the early 1900′s there were only 8,000 cars. The main form of transportation was the horse and carriage, not the car which was very new and uncommon, and there were a grand total of 10 miles of paved roads in the whole country. (Compared to over 2 million miles today). Roads and streets were rock, dirt, sandy areas that were well traveled making it hard for vegetation to grow. That’s not the same as paved streets. The countries railway systems are privately owned and were paid for by the rich to make more money more easily. The are also not free to use.

Schools and colleges but no taxes? Average worker made $12.98/week for 59 hours. Average teacher made $300 a year (less than half of the aversge worker), were poorly educated themselves. Child labor was in effect, elementary school was not. High schools were accessible to some, but not the public by and large.

Doesn’t mention healthcare or basic quality of life at all. Makes sense considering the average life expectancy: 47.3 female, 46.3 male -33.0 blacks.

What about public utilities?
Large Cities had unsanitised running water, which caused many illnesses and deaths. Most did not have water unless they drilled their own wells or diverted water from steams. There was no waste management which lead to contaminated wells and drinking water. Leading to widespread outbreaks of cholera and typhoid.

Blacks still couldn’t vote, women could be arrested for smoking in public, child slave labor existed instead of taxes.

Taxes. Before income tax, excise taxes and tariffs were the main form of taxation. In 1900 over 60% of internal revenue collections came from alcohol excise taxes with another 20% from tobacco excise taxes. Tariffs paid for most of the rest. With a significantly smaller population, there was also significantly less need.

Let’s not be fooled into thinking the that 1913 compares to 2012 in any real way. Don’t be fooled by a baseless, misleading, lie of a punchline. Lest you risk voting for people who would like to take you back to the lifestyle of the 1900′s or further.