Fruits of Obama’s beloved Arab Spring: more embassies under attack

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It’s seems like it wasn’t too long ago that some cable news guy was spouting off about the uprisings in the Middle East spreading, creating chaos, and becoming very anti-American and violent. Oh right, that was Glenn. After another U.S. embassy came under attack in the Middle East today, Glenn wondered how anyone could be surprised that Obama’s foreign policy could lead to major problems for our national security.

Glenn heavily criticized President Obama for having come out in support of the Arab Spring in 2011, and claimed that the events that unfolded during the Arab Spring led to the rise of radical Islam in the Middle East.

“Really?  That was the judgment that you had?  You guessed wrong, sir.  And you know what’s amazing?  You weren’t guessing.  You had the greatest advisors, all of the greatest intel people in the United States of America and all over the globe telling you, and you took their advice.  This (Arab Spring) is going to be great,” Glenn said.

But now Obama doesn’t seem to think that the Muslim Brotherhood-controlled Egypt is an ally.

In an interview, President Obama said:

I don’t think we would consider them an ally but we don’t consider them an enemy.  They are a new government that is trying to find its way.  They were democratically elected.  I think that we are going to have to see how they respond to this incident or how they respond to, for example, maintaining the peace treaty in Is ‑‑ with Israel.  So far at least what we’ve seen is that in some cases they have said the right things and taken the right steps; in others how they responded to various events may not be aligned with our interests. 

“I just want to remind you, Mr. President, that when you got into office, Egypt was an ally.  They weren’t a good guy, we don’t really like them, but they were an ally.  They kept the peace in the region.  It was your brainstorm to destabilize and support the destabilization,” Glenn said.

“We now have three embassies, three. Where do you think it stops?  The United States of America did not defend its sovereign soil.  They killed an ambassador and two Marines and they didn’t defend their sovereign soil!  The first thing they do is apologize to the Muslim extremists.  And he waits.  And he waits.  And he waits,” Glenn added.

Glenn also criticized President Obama for not being alerted during the night that the ambassador had been killed.

“He goes to bed.  He doesn’t get a briefing until he wakes up the next morning.  Who’s going to answer the phone at 3:00 a.m.?  Not Barack Obama.  He unplugs it.  My gosh,” Glenn said.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Three embassies attacked: Libya, Egypt, and Yemem; with many others having protests and demonstrations outside of them, especially in Tunisia and Algeria and Morroco. Obama has managed to destabalize the entire region; offering the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Queda (all branches), and Iran to gain the upper hand for their own agendas while placing us in a very dangerous position.
    Anyone not fully seeing what may happen with these three bands coming togeather consider this much:
    Eliminate Israel and the one Democracy in the area is gone for good.
    Iran gaining control (direct/indirect) of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Oman, Yemen, and you have the Persian Gulf as their lake.
    Muslim Brotherhood gains Israel, Jordon, Syria, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Morroco, the Mediterranian is effectively theirs along with the Red Sea.
    Al Queda gains Nigeria, Somalia and other nations for themselves, and the coastal routes for much of the worlds transport are theirs to control and dominate.
    This means they will have control over much of the worlds oil, gas, mineral wealth and many other resources; to sell or do with as they see fit. Consider that these would also bring the treat of natural resources into danger for China and Russia; and then we can see the prospect of regional wars brewing into a global war.
    So Obama has sewn the wind for the next world war; he will go down in history as the most bloody handed President this nation has ever seen.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Understand clearly – aside from the chaos of Obama; look to the true puppet master of George Soros for any move in the area, he stands to gain the most from this.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEhRucEVzH8&feature=share&list=PL5FABE780A13D231D Rahm Kota
  • Timothy Wayne Brown

    Yes, that’s right although government is powerless to create anything, Obama himself has the power to alter global economies and mind-meld telepathically with the axis of terror. You people are absolutely mental to follow this crap.

  • MarsBarsTru7

    Look no further than right here in our own United States for peril.

    October 26, 2001 – The USA PATRIOT Act was signed into law. So ended any pretense of the right to privacy without due process.

    September 19, 2008 – The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 was signed into law. So ended any pretense left of a free market economy in America.

    Dec. 19, 2008 – The U.S. announces a $17.4 billion lifeline to
    Detroit car makers from the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief (TARP)
    program. GM is to receive $13.4 billion and Chrysler $4 billion.
    June
    1, 2009 – GM files for bankruptcy. After GM filed for bankruptcy,
    Treasury provided GM with $30.1 billion of debtor in possession
    financing. – From FOX News
    U.S. Auto industry is now subsidized by the federal government. GM becomes ‘Government Motors’ in the minds of free market advocates.

    March 30, 2010 – The Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 was signed into law. This infringed upon religious rights as well as creating a “price-to-live” by mandating a service for every citizen.

    December 31, 2011 – NDAA 2012 was signed into law, erasing any pretense of due process rights left in this “free country”.

    September 12, 2012 – The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey calls American citizen Terry Jones and urges him to cease promoting a film exposing the attempted genocide of Coptic Egyptians. RIP Constitution.

    The threats abroad are merely an excuse for power grabs at home.

  • http://www.facebook.com/stewart.sally Sally Jo Stewart

    if “we and Glenn” are mental, why are you reading it? don’t you realize YOUR following it in order to bag on it??

  • Anonymous

    You see Mr President, we conservatives would love to jump on board and mend the division that separates our nation. The problem is, you liberals keep proving to us that our policies actually work and yours are nothing more than mindless, aimless, miscalculated jabs in the dark at running government. It reminds me of mom and dads night out on the town, and the unattended children, who are now alone back at the ranch, invite all the neighborhood kids over to get a taste – if only for a moment – of adulthood.

    When the piggy banks are emptied and there’s nothing left for another pizza and all the cupboards are stripped bare and any trace of salty or sweet snacks is long gone, the party becomes – well boring and the neighborhood children who enjoyed their brief moment as adults, return home for the loving care of those who best provide for them – the safety of their parents.

    Well Mr President your moment in the adult world is over, grow up – step out of the way and acknowledge the damage you have caused and all because you said you were someone you are not.

  • Anonymous

    Now George is foisting a plan to save the Euro…he’s one busy rich man isn’t he…

  • Fuzzy Bunny

    He didn’t say “we and Glenn.” You forgot to capitalize the D in “don’t.” “Your” should be “you’re.” Only one question mark is needed.

    Let’s cut funding for schools more!

  • Anonymous

    It’s pretty amazing isn’t it Tim , when I’m not rolling off my couch laughing while watching the Fox noise television fear mongering I come on here for a few more laughs . Did you see Glens tearful monologue the other day ? omg I laughed myself to tears .These people are are a friggin hoot .

  • greywolfrs

    Again, I am so glad that this administration decided to get into the middle of the civil wars in these countries. They are only thanking for that…

  • Anonymous

    The neocon world can only make sense if Glenn is God and Obama is Satan.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, you are so mending is astonishing!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jerry.kountz.3 Jerry Kountz

    @ dslpltdor – You are either VERY stupid or high on LSD! You work for Obama and we know who you are. Do you ever take late knight walks? You sound like you have been awake for a few days is why I ask! We will pray for you, God knows you need it!

  • Anonymous

    Obama is the father of all lies. Glenn is the prophet who holds monopoly on the truth. Fox News are the disciples and the GOP are the righteous culture warriors of Christ. Christ is, of course, Christ. Romney, in this reality, is no other than the contemporary challenger of Satan’s reign on Earth. America is being punished by God for tolerating the other religion who also thinks God is punishing the world because of the infidels. Get in with the program, please. Glenn hasn’t worked all these years just to have people around his website mocking him out of their own ignorance!

  • NWFL Conservative

    And you hard of thinking libs just trod along blindly behind your “messiah” as he leads our country into oblivion. Remove your head from your ass and start looking at the numbers. Our debt increases at a rate of $4,000,000,000 a day, unemployment, TRUE unemployment, not those bogus numbers propagated by this “administration”, is in double digits. Our embassies overseas are under siege. You are just like the rats with the Pied Piper of Hamlin. He led them blindly right off the cliff. You are too stupid to even come to the realization that Obama could care less about any of you OR our country. What will YOU do, liberal pantywaist, when the wolf comes knocking at your front door? Shriek in terror, tuck your tail and shriveled little balls between your legs and run like a little girl and go lock yourself in a bathroom? Good luck with that one pal.

    Not me, I am going to blow a hole in that door with a shotgun the size of a f’n basketball before they even get a chance to come in, And don’t look to us to come and pull your ass out of the fire either. You crapped in your own bed and now you have to sleep in it.

  • MarsBarsTru7

    Ooh. This topic must be important to the leftists. The lib blog war warriors have shown up in a small group.

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant! Finally, someone who sees the whole picture. There are only two unanswered questions: Has Obama always been fully cognizant of the conspiracy and what can he use from the turmoil to get a second four years to completely destroy individual freedom in America

  • Anonymous

    Whoever suggested that either was true? Beck is a competent observer of foreign affairs and Obama has never really labeled himself; rather he lets others draw their own conclusion. Based on what he’s done since he took power in January of 09 I think that he believes that the American people should be in chains. But then why waste my time convincing you? ANSWER: On the faint possibility that you might know more than you’re letting on.

  • Anonymous

    Repeal Obama and impeach him

  • Anonymous

    We’re a free country, did we have to come out in support of the Arab Spring? No, but to do something to stop it would have been one of the most reprehensible things in the history of American foreign policy. Without our intervention to stop it it was going to succeed anyway so why not at least try to get in good with the new people in charge as soon as possible?

  • Anonymous

    How many of you can remember all the heat that the Reagan White House once got from the MSM, when they found out that nobody had woken Reagan up in the middle of the night to tell him what had happened? I can’t even remember any more WHAT it actually was that had happened, but it sure didn’t involve the murder of a US Ambassador!

  • Anonymous

    To state that the President is weak is not only ludicrous it is a downright lie.
    The reason glenn beck wants to attack the President on this front is because he knows the election is a foregone conclusion.
    The US does not need idiots like rush, glenn and now Romney to jump to conclusions and make uninformed decisions.
    We need, and currently have, a patient and strong leader.
    Thank God President Obama is in office and Romney is not.

  • Anonymous

    these are hussein-obama’s wars, seven wars surrounding israel to destroy the God’s promise land and God’s chosen people! hussein-obama the 12th imam

  • Anonymous

    …and soros co is nonprofit so he wont pay taxes and lamestream media in his pocket too…along with most politicians

  • Anonymous

    ..at least Romney will save our country Hussein-Obama is destroying! at least Romney loves America…Hussein-Obama and you hate America you two should get out of America and leave US alone! you are just plainly filled with Hate like the president evil one..blindly following him like a sheep. everything Glenn has predicted four years ago came true and is coming true. hussein-obama is doing satan;s work and one day you will follow him to hell too..its all in bho bible RulesforRadicals dedicated to Lucifer!

  • SoThere

    Folks, strtlk is the face of the Liberal Progressives in this country, many are in our government.

    It’s OK to vote an ineffective President out of office.

    Save america from people like strtlk, Vote Conservative.

    OBTW, Obama was the one person who was responsible for the death of american Citizens in Libya, he the man in charge. He should have known that something might happen on the anniversary of 9/11.

  • http://hankrutland.mynikken.net. Fior Gael

    Well, it is interesting that what Glenn et al. suggested would happen, happened. Why does the embassy security not have the power to defend the sovereign territory on foreign soil? The mention of the prophet mohammed and blasphemy in the same sentence seems…blasphemous. I have long suspected that mohammed just decided to have his own version of Christianity and forced it on the world. Where in Christian literature and belief does it say, “submit or die”? (I know about the Spaniards in the Carribean, but they were taught by he Mohammedans or Moors that occupied their country for many years). Look at the fruits of the tree: a good tree bears good fruit, not bad fruit. What in God’s law talks about a holy war? Especially after Christ came to fulfill the Mosaic Law. No better way to spread one’s cult than by violence, no better way to fuel violence than by attaching it to some lofty purpose. Remember, it was the mohammedans who took the holy land from the christians. They fomented the crusades because of the persecution of Christians.
    Besides, regarding the movie, I had heard somewhere in the muslim oral tradtion (begins with an h I think) that the allegations in the movie were true, but justified by the prophet.
    A red herring, indeed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Underhill/100003118630058 Jay Underhill

    The great and proud nation of Egypt has shown the way toward peace in the Middle East, and now should show the way toward democracy in the Middle East. Champions of democracy in the region understand that democracy is not perfect, it is not the path to utopia, but it’s the only path to national success and dignity.

    As we watch and encourage reforms in the region, we are mindful that modernization is not the same as Westernization. Representative governments in the Middle East will reflect their own cultures. They will not, and should not, look like us. Democratic nations may be constitutional monarchies, federal republics, or parliamentary systems. And working democracies always need time to develop — as did our own. We’ve taken a 200-year journey toward inclusion and justice — and this makes us patient and understanding as other nations are at different stages of this journey.

    …..And before any of you dismiss this as just Liberal BS….these words were spoken by President Bush at the 20th anniversary of the National Endowment of Democracy in 2003. In support of his Bush Doctrine policy

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ken-Graves/100001731433256 Ken Graves

    why are u and i the only ones to see this?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ken-Graves/100001731433256 Ken Graves

    my sentiments exactly..where are our principles? the waffling in DC puts the world at risk!!

  • Anonymous

    I believe Bush has blood dripping from his hands down to his socks. The thousands of Americans who have died in Iraq, Afganistan, also hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims he killed on his watch (women children) including using chemical weapons(white phosphorus). What did iraq and afganistan due to us again? Oh yeah they got alot of oil and poppy’s

  • Anonymous

    George Bush clearly had the situation in the middle east under control while he was in power. Lets start more wars we can afford it

  • Anonymous

    An eye for an eye, lets get them

  • Anonymous

    it worked in Iraq, oh wait Suddam Hussein never attacked us, or had weapons mass destruction. Thanks dick Cheney

  • Anonymous

    I wander why middle east hates us, oh yeah we keep dropping bombs, drone attacks, ignorant to there language and culture and we want there oil and poppy’s(heroin on the rise since taliban collapse and USA placed government in power) What would Americans due if we were occupied?

  • Anonymous

    It has been widely reported that the US was WARNED 48 hrs. in advance that the S$#t was about to hit the fan in the Middle East. What did Obama and Hillary do to protect US personnel??? NOTHING. Obama went to bed and pulled the covers up over his head. Hillary probably went to get her nails done. All this while our loyal ambassador was being brutally murdered and sodimized. Let me ask you. Really THINK about this. What do you think Obama will do if you and your family are being targeted for destruction? Do you think he will protect you? Do you think the entitlement money he is throwing around is going to last much longer? What do you think he is going to do for you when the money and your luck runs out? Face it.. Obama only wants to get re-elected. Power means more to this man than anything. He cares not for you or your children. He isn’t putting America’s best interests first. We need jobs…not welfare. We need to take control of this insane spending. We need to regain our respect as one of the best nations and peoples in the world. We need to protect our family and our rights. This will only happen if we remove the real and present danger to the US our futures…his name – Barack Obama.

  • Sandie

    He was in a better position of warning than GWBush ever was to do something about it, yet the left castigates Bush for not stopping 9/11, but Obama is above criticism. Hypocrites.

  • SoThere

    Any President who didn’t order a heightened state of security to our foreign embassies for the anniversary of 9/11 is an ignorant fool. Especially in the Mid East!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Diane-Markley/100001979711640 Diane Markley

    Jahjah1 – Why are you living in the PAST? We have to deal with the reality of NOW! And NOW is looking really bad. There is no good to be served by continually dragging us into the past. This has been Obamas baby for the last almost four years and HE has brought us to this point. No one else. What do you suggest we do? Just sit on our hands until they are emboldened to, once again, strike us on our own soil? Neither you nor Obama understand that blaming everyone else does not SOLVE anything.

  • Anonymous

    It is obvious that their vision of democracy is death and destruction to the “non believers” It is obvious that they hate anyone who stands in their way and sees the world differently than they. Jay..a question for you…would you be this accepting of the savagery if it were your family member (s) that were brutally murdered and sodimized by these animals????

  • Anonymous

    AMEN!!

  • Anonymous

    strtlk…We can all see what a great job Obama is doing. GOD HELP US ALL!

  • Anonymous

    The US was warned 48hrs in advance of the attacks. Obama was resting up for his next campaign stop as the Arabs were brutally murdering and sodimizing our Ambassador.. Also..he decided to skip his AM briefings so he could get “on the road”. Guess he didn’t want to get stuck in that “rush hour” traffic.

  • SoThere

    He’s one great leader. I wonder how much money he made in Vegas?

  • Fuzzy Bunny

    Capitalization, one more dot for an ellipsis, D.C., one exclamation point.

  • Fuzzy Bunny

    Middle East, period at the end of your sentence.

  • Fuzzy Bunny

    Capitalize why. You is spelled incorrectly. Capitalize I.

  • Anonymous

    Hey ya ol’ bag of rags – I thought I placed you out by the curb to be picked up by Purple Heart – so they must-not of thought to much of your linen either – I see you’re still around stinking up the joint.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Underhill/100003118630058 Jay Underhill

    noone should be accepting of it, but neither should we beleive that such transitioning will be a smooth and seamless process. President Bush knew this when He started the Bush Doctrine policy of spreading Democracy in the Middle east and its no different now. This will be a decades long process one that has continued after Bush, will continue after Obama and continue through succeeding Presidents. There isnt an easy quick answer. You can believe that or not. But I would like to point out to you that if you do think Democracy and representive Governments are easily put in place…just remember we ourselves signed a Declaration of Independence in 1776, won our Freedom from Britain in 1783, and in less than 80 years after that went through our bloodiest conflict with ourselves. As high in regard we hold our principles to be it didn’t happen overnight either

  • Anonymous

    What do we do to get in good?. do we agree with them to get rid of israel, do we tell them hell yea lets have sharia law in he u.s. You guys are great lets kill anyone that believes in free speech, you guys are great.Lets stop our women from wearing anything they want and from driving alone you guys are the best, why dont you like us? we like you.

  • Anonymous

    I”m glad you are on this sight, it shows everyone how libs think or dont think.You have a president that is out of his league but he thinks he”s in the game.Our patient leader is going to wait till the muslim bro’s come here and tell us our freedom is overrated. He will send them our money, that shows how strong a leader he is.How can you be falling from a building and think that it is only the ground moving towards you?

  • Anonymous

    He doesn”t mind meld, I think he has a phone.

  • Anonymous

    So this is where all the nuts go (and I thought we had squirrels). Obama is also responsible for the wildfires, melting ice caps, and this rash that I have. Of course, some people might actually let the fact that the United States government had nothing to do with the Arab Spring get in the way of blaming Obama, but not us… not a chance. Some other loonies might blame that silly movie that is pissing them all off. No way, I’m not falling for that logic crap.

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    It is nice to see another beckling prove to the world they hate Muslims.
    Sleep tight bigot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brent.saulic Brent A Saulic

    Your an idiot Glen Beck. The whole middle east is on fire. Its their problem not ours. Keep the oil flowing and let the tyrants fall–that’s the only strategy america should have. We can’t afford any more wars, we cant deny muslims their right to govern themselves–just because we are scared when thier not our friends. Don’t be an idiot. I think your a tyrant of ignorance.

  • SoThere

    Strtlk is the bigot here. He’s a hatemonger and the face of the Liberal Progressives in this country. There are 20 Embassies burning and people like strtlk are partly responsible.

    Save America, vote Conservative.

  • Anonymous

    how come conservatives refuse to talk about 8 years of BUSH furthermore refuse talk about Afganistan or Iraq in the Convention or anytime?

  • Anonymous

    To think that a second-rate “B” movie, had the slightest thing to do with what is now shaping up to be the prelude to world war three, is to deliberately turn ones head away from truth and reality. It also shows the vulnerabilities and susceptibility of many who subscribe to this absent-minded naivety who will believe just about anything, but that’s the Liberal Left for ya.

    The United States had everything to do with the resent Arab Spring that traversed its way across the Middle East like a run-away freight train. History has proven time and again, that the Islamic religion has no room for non-believing infidels – the world today is a very much smaller place then it was way back in the days of the crusades – when the forces of Islam went head to head, with the forces of Christianity – Predominantly Catholic Europe led the charge. Does anyone think for a moment, that in the modern age of “intellectualism” – history cannot repeat itself?

    There is a growing awareness around the world…that the Muslim Middle East is forcing its brand of religion on everybody else. America doesn’t seem to understand what all the fuss is about, considering our very diverse religious culture. That stupidity is exactly what led Obama and team, to spread democracy across the region. Not understanding the true nature of Islam and not remembering world history and worse, not listening to anyone’s advise who does…so yes, Obama’s White House is the number one culprit and the most responsible party involved. Then, to simply turn away and leave the process of governmental restructuring in the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood and heavy influences coming out of Iran, what else could have any of us expected?

    The Middle East has now become every-bodies problem – all nations.To turn our backs on Islam World now, would be nothing short of disastrous. For out of the Red Sea and the Suez Canal, flow the precious life-blood for the West. America would suffer enormously, but it would be a shot in the heart of Europe. I guess gas prices aren’t “necessarily high enough” yet for the liberal left.

    We cannot deny Muslims the right to govern themselves…said a poster below…This form of government though, denies women and children their basic civil rights – even allows for barbaric “dark ages style” torture…I thought we were well past the age of enlightenment…doesn’t look like all of have been enlightened. What if it were your mother, or sister, or worse, your wife, who was the victim of Sharia Law.

    This same poster went on to say, – “We can’t afford anymore wars” – My answer would be – then why keep starting them and walking away as if nothing happened? Talk about ignorance, it would be laughable if it weren’t so damn serious

  • Timothy Wayne Brown

    So ridiculous! The Right Wing loves to jibe liberals with their insanity about our worshiping Obama; yet, they’re the ones that turn around and expect the President to perform on the level of a divine being.

  • http://abso-bloody-lutely.com/ Daniel Anderson

    The policies are just not working,

  • Anonymous

    Better than having a pussy as commander in chief.

  • TylerDurden

    Why did Beck support democracy in the Middle East when George W. Bush was President? What changed? Oh….a Democrat is in office.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joann.fagan.94 JoAnn Fagan

    Why do Liberals refuse to see that Obama Is a dictator and chief and doesn’t pay attention to our constitution. DA!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joann.fagan.94 JoAnn Fagan

    Oh yeah, liberals. Rowe vs Wade has had american women, murder over 54,000,000 babies that belong to them is that ok. Abortion, How much does that cost the American People. Oh but that’s ok, that’s a liberal Obama Policy. As long as it law it’s to murder, even if it’s your own child.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joann.fagan.94 JoAnn Fagan

    No, we just expect the dictator and chief to perform, but all he can do it party. You see, he has never held a job except to organize with radicals. So, you see we do understand. You are brain washed, you must watch abc, nbc., msmbc. Can you tell us where you get your thinking, you can’t be american.

  • Timothy Wayne Brown

    JoAnn, I get my news by watching Fox News, CNN, BBC, and the many news organizations on LINK TV. I also listen to Glenn Beck and a host of ultra conservative radio hosts as I travel the country. I grew up in ultra conservative Mississippi, in a Christian home – parents married 72 years before their death. I work, own a home right here in CA, pay my taxes, support my community and definitely disagree with people like you and Glenn Beck who stir controversy and hatred in kind with others in the world who obviously don’t see the world as it is and open your eyes to the animosity behind your rhetoric.
    Obama isn’t perfect. I don’t worship him. I do support him. I disagreed with Bush on many fronts, I stood behind him because he was my President. My father, wounded in WWII, serving his country and community until his death, chastised me and anyone who did otherwise.
    So yes, I am an American. I believe in the freedoms priviledges put to paper in our Constitution – I believe they apply to all – not just a select few.
    Where do I get my thinking? I think for myself. I take in data from the news sources I listed, and more, I listen to everyday people that I come into contact with and I come to my own conclusions. They aren’t down party lines or the lines drawn between conservative and liberal – -
    Now, I really don’t need to ask where you get your thinking. It’s pretty obvious

  • Timothy Wayne Brown

    You can’t possibly be serious. I can only believe your comment is sarcasm

  • Anonymous

    Sarcasm is correct.