What Romney should say tonight

Wednesday, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:35 PM EDT

If you had asked Glenn six months ago what the GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s approach in tonight’s debate should be, he would have had a difference answer than he did this morning.

“You know, six months ago you got to go after him. You’ve got to go after him. I don’t think you do,” Glenn told listeners this morning.

This morning Glenn gave the points that he believes Mitt Romney should make during tonight’s debate. They aren’t points that discuss his radical past or Marxist tendencies.

If Glenn were Mitt Romney, here’s exactly what he would say tonight —and it may surprise you.

“Mr. President none of the things you’ve said about me are true. You’ve even admitted to lies and mistakes in your approved ads in your 60 minute interview,” Glenn started.

“Tonight, Mr. President that should not happen because it’s not about politics. It’s about our country, and it’s about credible. Whom can we trust anymore?

The American people don’t trust the news media. They don’t trust the Republicans. And they don’t trust the Democrats. They don’t trust you. And they don’t trust me. But they’re going to go in and make a decision.”

“Whom do they trust Mr. President? Whom do they trust?”

“Let’s look at some of the facts.”

“You attacked my record at Bain, yet in every single case I wasn’t even at the company when you accused of layoffs and outsourcing in every single case.

You went so far to post a story from the poor man who lost his wife to cancer on your website, and Stephanie Cutter hosted him on one of your campaign conference calls. So this isn’t something from a super PAC that you had no control over it was on your website. You tried to use the story that it was me who laid him off, so he lost his job and lost his insurance. And then his wife got cancer, and died. Instead, the truth is — because that’s what this has to be about Mr. President, and the American people need to know the truth — the truth is, he lost his job after I left the company. His wife went on her own company’s insurance, then dropped it, then got sick. And then, seven years after I was involved with this man or his family, seven years after I left the company, she got cancer, and died.

That’s a tragic story not only for that family but, Mr. President, that is a tragic story of an American President without any credibility.

You and your surrogates have accused me of not paying my taxes, even when an organization that has 8% of the population saying, “no I can trust the news from the “New York Times” — 8%. Even the New York Times says, “the President is wrong.”

You continue to claim I haven’t released my tax information. I have. I have released my tax information for the past two years, as much as Ronald Reagan did. And I released the summary tax information going back 20 years. To illustrate the futility of releasing this tax information, last week, when I had discovered I paid more tax than I needed to I was attacked for that even though you harp on the fact that you want the wealthy to pay more. “Pay their “fair share.” I paid more and your people attacked.

Then you went around and attacked me when I did pay $500,000 more than I was paying and that’s just the beginning of it. Because your constantly attacking me and anyone who has earned their money. You’ve constantly attacked my wealth. Yes, I have been successful. Since when — since when has that been a curse in America and not a blessing?

With that wealth I have helped to bless the lives of others: through employment, investment opportunities and charity. One of the revelations in my taxes, if you care to look, is that last year I donated 30% of my income — that’s four million dollars — to charity. I didn’t wait for the government to act. I knew people were hurting and needed help. We’re in a tough time. Charities are hurting for cash. I upped my charity.”

“Let me break out of Mitt Romney for a second,” Glenn interjected, “Because the man in me would say, “now up yours.” But that would be inappropriate.”

“Why would I up my charity? Because I am my brother’s keeper, not the government.

And that’s the difference between the two of us.

You’ve taken a phrase I have used and you took it out of context. This is a choice that America has to make. Whom do you trust?

About 47% of Americans, I said, aren’t paying taxes. To claim I wouldn’t care about half the country if elected is ridiculous. That’s what you said. Mr. President, you know that’s disingenuous at best. I was referring to the fact that I can’t worry about getting their votes. Not that I don’t care about them as human beings or their struggles.

You know that Mr. President, we’re adults. You’ve alleged that I never struggled and I don’t care about hardworking Americans. Mr. President, I’ve worked long and hard to get where I am today, as has my wife. As far as caring for people, I’ve never been comfortable extolling the work I’ve done for others. Let’s just suffice that I have personally given my time, my council, and my money to help people of all income levels in all stages of life. I’ve been doing that my entire life. I was raised that way.
Service is in my D.N.A..

The fundamental difference between us is you have turned that responsibility over to government agencies. You believe your job is to fight for bigger government who will in turn fight for the people. I believe that it is my job to fight for the people. It’s more of a direct line but I learned that in business.

I believe it’s my responsibility to get involved. I believe it is your responsibility to get — you believe that it’s your responsibility to get the involved with other people’s time and money. I believe people should make that decision themselves. But it’s not just about what you’ve said about me and the lies you’ve said. That just has to be said because it is a contest between the two of us. But that’s not something we should dwell on. We spend tonight’s hour on is what you have done.

Mr. President you promised to cut the deficit in half by now. I know it’s evil George Bush’s fault but you’ve had four years. This year’s deficit is the largest in the history of the planet earth. It’s $1,275,800,000,000. You’ve added more to the national debt in four years than President Bush did in eight. You called his efforts unpatriotic. What does that make yours, sir.

You promised to close Gitmo. You didn’t. You promised not to hire lobbyists. You hired 17 within the first two weeks. You promised to allow five days of public comment before signing any bills. That hasn’t happened. You promised to televise healthcare care. You didn’t. It was all behind closed doors. It was with special interest groups. You promised healthcare care costs would decrease. What has happened. They’re up 25%. You promised Americans if they liked their healthcare plan they’d be able to keep it. Up to 30% of employers have dropped or plan to drop out of their healthcare when Obamacare is fully implemented because they can’t afford it anymore. You promised to reduce earmarks to 1994 levels. Nope. They continue. You promised that if you make less less than $250,000 none of your taxes will increase. Obamacare will raise taxes on million on Americas. Plainly centered around those that are making $55,000 a year not to mention the smoking tax. The tanning tax, and uninsured. You said that Obamacare mandate was not a tax. And then your people went in and argued to the Supreme Court it was a tax.

You promised that the world would respect and love us again. Instead our allies have no idea where we stand. Instead our enemies are emboldened. The middle is on fire. And our embassies interest and people in the Middle East are under siege. This White House, this White House has lied to the American people just on Libya enough.

You promised over and over again jobs, those three little letters was job number one. Say what you will about your efforts of creating and saving jobs but unemployment has been above 8% for 42 straight months. There’s 80 million unemployed or under employed in this country. I don’t care about the 47%. Mr. President I’d like to give these people dignity by giving them a job not another government program. You promised to take responsibility. You haven’t. You blame Bush for absolutely everything. And then when you can’t blame Bush let’s go back to the Libya. You’ve blamed everybody from the Navy SEALs. Or should we blame Gerald R. Ford for everything. You promised a new tone Mr. President.

The tone is not as bad it’s much, much worse. You’ll have a book fair with Hugo Chavez but you have no time to meet with anyone who opposes you.

Mr. President, millions of Americans hope for change. The same change they hoped for last time and then didn’t get it. What they got was more of the same. But they got deceit in record numbers. They’re footing the bill. They’re working hard. Too many Americans think Washington is playing a game and we’re spending their future.

There is one thing Mr. President I do agree with you on. You told Matt Lauer before you were elected if I don’t have this done in three years this is going to be a one term proposition.

And with that Mr. Moderator I’ll end my one point of unity and agreement with my opponent.

I think Mitt Romney needs to be — needs to rinse all of the sarcasm out of my delivery and needs to be laser focused on the facts and absolutely laser focused on the impact on the American people.

Mr. President we’re here to talk about the domestic policy. There is nothing more crucial to domestic policy that the mom who’s taking her kids to soccer practice and ballet, and has to stop at the gas station. Because of your policies in the Middle East, offshore drilling, the keystone pipeline, there’s nothing more relevant to them than the cost of gasoline. It’s doubled since you’ve been in office. The guy you appointed as secretary of energy said that he was hoping for 8 dollars a gallon gasoline. He retracted that as soon as he got into office. That doesn’t make sense unless you’re playing a media game and lying to the American people again because you said your policies would make electricity costs necessarily skyrocket. So for fairness, you don’t have a problem with that. Mr. President, have you gone to the coal miners, and have you talked to the coal miners in Ohio, West Virginia, people who have been Democrats for their entire life. They think quite honestly you are just a nightmare. Why?

Mr. President, why have you shut out of 500 coal fire plants, you’ve shut down 100. Now I understand we all want to be clean, and but we have to have energy, and we can’t — you want to talk about 47% who cares about the 47%. The one who’s going to make their electricity prices necessarily skyrocket how is the 47% going to be able to afford that? Or are you developing another program for another handout and another ticket to slavery? When we have technology that will replace 50% of our electricity I’m fine — I’m fine. I’d like to get rid of them too. I’m not sitting here fighting for the Stanley steamer.

New technology let’s embrace it. But we don’t have it yet Mr. President, and every time you invest you lose. Every time you’ve taken the hard earned money from the pockets of people you say it’s a bad thing it’s a bad thing we should have Social Security be able to have the people invest their own money with a chance that maybe they get a higher return. Why? Because you say that’s not right because they might lose it all. Stocks are risky thing. Yet you take the money from their taxes and you invest it in the riskiest of things, and then you say we got a bet.

This isn’t Vegas. This is the United States of America and it’s Washington D.C. We’re supposed to have trust. America doesn’t trust any of us in Washington with their money. Nor should they.”

http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

Amen – the above says it all; and the Democratic moderators will never allow Romney to say anything that will embarrass their god-king Obama. The clear fact is Romney is now being set up by the MSM, no matter how well he does, or what he says, they will declare Obama the winner.

May God declare the matter otherwise, to show the truth of Obama for all to see and to hear and understand.
Anonymous

This was so adorable.
It was pathetic to call the President a liar, but it was nice to see all of glenn’s idiotic lies in one long segment.
Luckily for Romney, and America, glenn isn’t in this debate because glenn doesn’t give a shit about this country. All glenn cares about is himself. glenn has never and will never serve this country.
So, if any of Romney’s campaigners heard glenn’s “show” or read this story it would be wise to ignore this idiot and try to win the debate with intelligence and facts not glenn’s advice.
http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

Oh this is so pathetic strtlk thinks people can’t see his god’s lies that are in the open. Strtlk hates this country and black people why because he disagrees with Allen West. Strtlk hates women because he disagrees with Sarah Palin. All strtlk cares for is himself and does not care that his god is destroying the country without a care in the world. He loves to eat baby souls and suck their blood as well. See strtlk having someone lie about you is not fun so why oh hypocrite do you lie about others. I think why is because you know you can’t hold your own in a debate. Name calling like you do on a daily bases is not only stupid but only proves how misinform you are about the real world. It is really sad to see you destroy yourself with your hate like you do every night. Get help maybe open the Bible and read what Jesus teaches about giving false witness.
http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

Mitt should hire you Glenn that was good and would love to see him try to worm his way out of that.
http://www.facebook.com/april.brown.35728 April Brown

Who the H… are you to say Glenn cares only about himself??? It is clearly YOU & Obama who don’t care about this country! The Muslim won’t even put his hand over his heart fr our flag! Go somewhere else to be an @$%.
Anonymous

How about a fair & balanced Presidential waterboarding of both nominees , if one spits out an obvious BS lie , electricity is added to the mix . Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity should be the moderator to make it fair and unbalanced.
Anonymous

First – ever heard you attract more bees with honey than with vinegar?
Cursing & insulting never adds in making a convincing arguement – sarcasm does, if its placed right.
Anonymous

LET OBAMA SCREW YOU 4 MORE — AND EAT YOUR PEA S HOPE – ERS.
SoThere

The only pathetic idiot her is you strtlk. Obma’s been spewing nothing but lies for 4 years now. Srtlk is an Obama cultst like most liberals are.
Take your hate and bigotry and go spam some other site. Go clean some toilets strtlk and remember, those white and blue things in the urinal are not mints.
Anonymous

unfortunately,this won’t happen.
Anonymous

What part of it is a lie? Seriously, can you answer that at all? Point out the lies.
http://twitter.com/tho_as tho_as

Romney should come out with a one-two punch. Mr. Obama, you have failed as the leader of our nation. Since you have been in charge, the economy has stayed in shambles and because of your apologetic nature, America has suffered shameful disrespect from other nations. I am asking, no, demanding you tonite, to resign from office.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Sundberg/100000503691206 Sam Sundberg

Why are all the moderators liberal dems? I heard that the Dems. said they would opt out if any moderator came from Fox – Bret Baier or Brit Hume..and the Repubs. accepted that – why? Since the mainstream media is so overtly and aggressively pro-Obama is it possible they would go so far as to prep Obama? May the hand of God be upon the man He has chosen to be our next President…
calmandcents

What makes this so great, Glenn, is that it echos the feelings and thoughts of many of US. Clearly, not everyone will agree, but many of us are with YOU. Thanks!
http://www.facebook.com/tony.f.hunt Tony Fredrick Hunt

People, people, strtlk is a troll. Don’t fan the flames. Anyways, while I am DEFINATLY voting for Romney, he’s not going to say these things, or at least not much of it. Believe me, I WISH he would defend himself more, and I wish he would be a little more aggressive in his speeches, but it just doesn’t seem to be in his nature. I hope i’m proven wrong tonight, but my hopes aren’t up too much right now.
Walter Tegelaar

strtlk has the mindset of so many democrats and mad leftists. Glenn’s analysis is first rate and unfortunately it is difficult to argue with these people. Take comfort that you don’t understand these morons as that means you have a different and better value set. Obama is a liar, his staff know no other way to communicate and to defend him is simple lunacy. He has devalued the country, the people and the way of life which is not a great legacy for a president.
DoctorMatt

Just FYI :-)… “Council” is misspelled in paragraph 22; it should read “counsel.” The scientific abbreviation for deoxyribonucleic acid is “DNA.” It is not an acronym.
Anonymous

The fact is that Obama is a liar. Obama’s campaign staff are liars. The Democrat party are all liars (and wannabe slave owners). The MSM are all liars. That is what 3.5 years of the Obama presidency have revealed. Now, if only the American people all knew the truth, they would hand the President, the Democrat party, and the MSM all their walking papers and put the whole cabal out of business forever. But the MSM are concealing the truth from them and all too many of them think that what they see on the TV news is true. They don’t know that they are being fed lies. Those of us who know the truth need to tell them. Otherwise the communists will prevail.
LoveMyCountry

Amen!!!
LoveMyCountry

What planet are you from?? Your eyes are blind and your ears are plugged. Maybe you need to read a bit more so you get your info correct. Unbelievable…..
junebuggie47

are you for real? whatever.
junebuggie47

I’m sure there are many more blogs that you could spew your nonsense.Byeeeeee
junebuggie47

hey, not worth answering him… it’s what he wants.
SoThere

Another leftist idiot heard from. What sewer did you crawl out of to come here?

Take it somewhere else, I’m not interested in your nonsense.
Matt Driscoll

God is not petty enough to care about American politics. Sorry but praying for a Romney win is the most narcissistic misuse of a deity I have ever encountered. That is on par with praying to God for your sports team to win.
Matt Driscoll

That is because Fox is a biased network. You don;t see any moderators from MSNBC, do you? Why not just let Beck moderate..or the Koch brothers.
Matt Driscoll

You are obviously a skilled politician.
Matt Driscoll

Obama is going to win. Sorry but your vote is pointless.
Matt Driscoll

It’s misinformed. Not misinform. If you are going to question someones intelligence then please make sure you are grammatically correct.
Matt Driscoll

Glenn does only care about himself. Count how many pictures of himself are on the homepage. That is called narcissism. He can’t even give up ice cream for a 40 day fast without resorting to loopholes. Pathetic.
Matt Driscoll

Lets talk about hatred and bigotry. Since being on this site I have been called “gay, faggot, retard, moron, stupid MFer, been told to go play in traffic, etc. The real hatred and bigotry lies in the hearts of most Beck supporters. It has been proven time and time again.
SoThere

Did I call you those names? I can post 100 or more posts from strtlk where he called people on this site those names. He called me and my wife and children those names. He also threatened me, Glenn Beck, the SCOTUS and many others on this site. He maligned the Military while lying about his military service. He used the most vulgar, hate filled language and continues to do so. Take your uncalled for indignation and go post it somewhere else.

My post was directed towards strtlk and I can back up what I say about him with his own words.

Butt out.
Sandie

In a reply to MarsBarsTru7 and a general attack on everyone posting at Becks, Matt Driscoll~ “I wish some eugenicist would come on here and thin out this gene pool.”

http://disqus.com/2012/10/01/is-the-golden-dawn-party-spreading-to-the-united-states/#comment-669220296
http://www.facebook.com/ed.lynn.75 Ed Lynn

What business is it of yours to question what a person chooses to pray for? Who are you to judge what God cares about? Do you have a direct line to the Almighty? Matt, your comment is petty and your attitude is pitiful.
Anonymous

Wait until you start to communicate with the typical liberals frequent this site. You’ll really get an earful then…
Anonymous

I am not sure what the topic was, but your comment was/is ‘rapier’!

Well done…
SoThere

Matt’s a hypocrite. He’s called people here,narrow minded,thick skulled,anti-intellectuals,stupid, ignorant,”Walking stumps”,racist,wife beaters,xenophobic, misinformed droids,paranoid delusional,mentally unstable,crazy,Jesus freaks, asinine and Nazi’s.

He gets what he deserves.
Sandie

Perzactly my point, ST.
greywolfrs

Hey, it’s the moron. I am sure you would like people to believe that B S, but unfortunately for you, most people are not stupid, unlike you.
SoThere

Perzactly …I love it.
greywolfrs

You are obviously a skilled moron.
http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Peacock/100001241183282 David Peacock

Romney cooked the coon in hot oil.
Sandie

Spit Matthews is tinkling down his leg tonight – not too happy with Obama and unpleasantly surprised by Romney ! ….LMAO
greywolfrs

Hey, it’s sticky chin the coward. I find it funny that you are talking about facts, since you never use any. Just more lies and conjecture. Dunce.
http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Peacock/100001241183282 David Peacock

booyah;; brains versus bull sh66t; obamam the imam loses.
greywolfrs

Hey, it’s the moron. Feel free to leave at any time, dunce.
Sandie

MSNBC – Maddows is in a fit of spin “Romney telling stories”; Sharpton’s eyes are big and he has a sort of scared pucker on his lips. HAHAHAHAAAA “Romney will be proven to be lying and he should be indicted for perjury” (poor Al, he doesn’t have a clue)
greywolfrs

Just like you, when you said and I quote:

Does it matter what my beliefs are? No sir. Only thing that matters is
that a intelligent man is not misrepresented by a group of fringe nuts
like yourselves.

A intelligent man? It’s AN intelligent man. Dumb M F er.
MarsBarsTru7

Well, I just got done watching the debate and he didn’t say any of that. I don’t think Beck and Romney are very like minded, no matter what Beck may say.
SoThere

Mathews had to take a break and go clean out his diaper.
SoThere

I’m waiting for Sharpton to call Mitt Romney a racist. You know it’s coming.
greywolfrs

I just finished watching this “debate,” if that’s what you could call it. Obamao got smoked like a Thanksgiving turkey. He has no answers or solutions. He claimed Romney had no definitive answers, yet it seemed as though Romney was the one who said anything definitive. All Obamao had was more B S and conjecture, not that I expected anything more out of this dolt.
SoThere

Matt wanted to stick his nose in my face and I cut it off.
greywolfrs

The only thing that is pathetic is you. It’s Glenn’s site, that might explain his picture being on it, dunce.
Sandie

That’s what I’m doing too. They struck me as being almost scared and angry at first … LOL I think Romney really shocked them – they must have thought he would fall flaty on his face, but he wiped O’s nose in it! LMAO. Now there is an idiot blaming O’s not so stellar performance on the moderator . I am cracking up.

Got to get back to work shortly.
greywolfrs

LOL, that is funny. I would turn it on, but I can not stand to listen to either of those blow-hards speak.
greywolfrs

He is one of them…
Dumber than a bag of hammers and not smart enough to realize it.
Sandie

I was popping from one to the other – Fox, MSNBC CBS etc, and MSNBC caught my chuckles – waiting to see how they change their tunes, how they defend Obama etc. I can’t stand any of them but watching them choke on their hubris is entertaining!
Sandie

LMAO
greywolfrs

I imagine it is quite hilarious. Those dolts probably thought Obamao was a “great debater.” He actually looked unprepared. He made himself look even more stupid than most people already thought he was, if that is possible.
greywolfrs

Sticky chin is our village idiot…
Sandie

He looked worried as Romney refuted his statements or corrected him. Obama got schooled tonight!
greywolfrs

You can not school a moron. I bet Obamao thinks he won.
greywolfrs

He said that, but I find it funny that he wants someone else to do it. Typical left wing coward.
greywolfrs

Now, he got his Obamao phone. KEEP OBAMAO IN PRESIDENT!

LOL, I couldn’t resist.
greywolfrs

Doesn’t matter, from what I saw, Romney had nothing to worry about. Obamao looked unprepared and got smoked like a Thanksgiving turkey. Besides, you didn’t really think they would let Obamao face any tough questions did you? Look at the hard-hitting interviews he’s doing, with the dolts on the View.
Anonymous

Well, I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt before pouncing on him…
greywolfrs

Sorry, I have seen way too many of Matt “the moron” Driscoll’s stupid comments.
Sandie

He looked real worried more than a few times.
Lioness

Ummmmm….your post is pointless?!?! In fact everything you post is pointless!!!!
Anonymous

I know and I get it. I am coming to the party late and prefer to allow someone to demonstrate it to me first hand before passing judgment…
MarsBarsTru7

Wow… NICE!
greywolfrs

It’s cool, all you need to do is open his profile and you can see his stupidity, first hand.
MarsBarsTru7

I don’t care about your sexual preferences, so I haven’t commented thus. But I do believe you’ve insulted the intelligence of others plenty before you were insulted yourself.

You’re a whiny hypocrite with nothing of substance to offer. All I’ve seen you do is insult Beck and like-minded people commenting, and you do so without any real point. Meanwhile, you ignore the real scum that comment, giving a pass to anyone that disagrees with the conservatives and libertarians. The ends justify the means eh? You’ve proven the quality of your character. You’re nothing more than a troll.
greywolfrs

Well, if this debate is indicative of things to come, he should be.
Anonymous

Some are also saying Barry was tired. Boo effen hoo. On twitter: “Chuck Todd, James Carville, Andrew Sullivan, Tom Brokaw, Ed Schultz all gave it to Romney.”
Anonymous

Obama folded like it was laundry day.
Sandie

They sound like they know it in their mind, but I haven’t heard them say so yet. Some will give Obama any excuse they can. Maybe if he wasn’t flying around to chat on th View and Letterman etc, he wouldn’t be so tired. I understand he was practicing every second he could so he could really show up Romney. LMAO
Poison_ Monkey

God showed up today…!
Poison_ Monkey

OUR God (through Christ) showed up with lots of bread and fish for everyone…rich or poor…black or white my man.
Poison_ Monkey

corn?
Anonymous

Glenn, you should have stuck with what you were thinking 6 months ago Glenn. The American people were wanting it, and they needed it, and it looks like Americans have found their voice in Romney. It was a clincher to me and pretty sure it was a clincher for many others. Its time to dethrone Obama and put a leader into office that can start digging us out of this mess we are in.
ValueSet

WWJD… What would Jesus do ? Please ! Please ! Please ! Remember His admonition “Bless those that curse you”
Starting with myself, I will try, with the help of the Holy Spirit, to disagree with certain ideas, without being disagreeable. I will have to account for everything that I say to HIM.

“My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, for man’s anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires…(James 1:19-20) …”With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men,who have been made in God’s likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs ? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.” (James 3:9-12)

“But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure: then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness.” (James 3: 17-18)
MarsBarsTru7

I agree. Romney won big. But what have we won?

I watched this with my wife. It was the first time she’s ever watched a Presidential debate in her life. She was raised apolitical and has been so for a long time.

Throughout the debate she asked me questions about what either of them were saying. I forced myself to be stoically objective. At the end, she asked me a profound question, “What’s the difference bewteen the two?” … While she agreed that Romney seemed better, she commented that Romney just seemed to be one-upping Obama on everything Obama said he wanted to do. Obama looked worse, primarily because he had been President for 4 years and the question has to be asked, why hasn’t he done these things already?
My wife asked me questions and I was ready to answer. But, in the interest of allowing her to form the opinions herself, as she is a very intelligent woman (apolitical record or not), I gave her the simplest answers possible and told her if she wanted more from me about it to just ask.

Then, I went on a rant about the state of things in general and that I thought things were likely to get worse before they get better.

In the end, what sticks out is that she, with her minimal experience, was able to ascertain what so many Romney and Obama supporters are unable or unwilling to admit. There’s not much of a difference. The primary difference lies in the fact that Romney will not be appointing kooks and radicals to upper level positions in the bureaucracy (the numerous positions the President is allowed to appoint to run this country). That’s pretty much it.

I guess we can at least take solace knowing that our new corporate fascist leader will be a more competant one. What an age we live in. God bless America
MarsBarsTru7

I agree. Romney won big. But what have we won?

I watched this with my wife. It was the first time she’s ever watched a Presidential debate in her life. She was raised apolitical and has been so for a long time.

Throughout the debate she asked me questions about what either of them were saying. I forced myself to be stoically objective. At the end, she asked me a profound question, “What’s the difference bewteen the two?” … While she agreed that Romney seemed better, she commented that Romney just seemed to be one-upping Obama on everything Obama said he wanted to do. Obama looked worse, primarily because he had been President for 4 years and the question has to be asked, why hasn’t he done these things already?
My wife asked me questions and I was ready to answer. But, in the interest of allowing her to form the opinions herself, as she is a very intelligent woman (apolitical record or not), I gave her the simplest answers possible and told her if she wanted more from me about it to just ask.

Then, I went on a rant about the state of things in general and that I thought things were likely to get worse before they get better.

In the end, what sticks out is that she, with her minimal experience, was able to ascertain what so many Romney and Obama supporters are unable or unwilling to admit. There’s not much of a difference. The primary difference lies in the fact that Romney will not be appointing kooks and radicals to upper level positions in the bureaucracy (the numerous positions the President is allowed to appoint to run this country). That’s pretty much it.

I guess we can at least take solace knowing that our new corporate fascist leader will be a more competant one. What an age we live in. God bless America
http://www.facebook.com/natalie.gusiff Natalie Gusiff

AMEN!!!
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

Slight correction – God showed us TRUTH last night in the debate; for the House of Obama, judgement has already been declared – we are seeing the wonderful work of God being revealed – to show the truth of Obama and his madness opened unto the world,

It is a testimony unto all of us, and a warning, God will not be denied.
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

Last night God worked a wonder – He is working a mighty work for His will to be fulfilled on earth – we have our part to continue to play and walk in faith with the Almighty.
Anonymous

lol.
Anonymous

He thought it was enough to be Present as opposed to engaging in intelligent debate. Being an Empty Chair will not get the job done. Finally someone is standing up to the COOTUS and making him accountable. Perhaps if the MSM hadn’t coddled and enabled him, Barry would have had at least a “C” game. I like the analogy circulating the airwaves: Had this been a Heavyweight Boxing match, the ref would have called the game in the early rounds.
http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

What it is only the great education that you progressives seem to gloat about that showed me how to use grammar and the teachers unions you left wingers support are responsible for that. So think you progressives for my crapy education. What a grammar Nazi you do realize he makes your side look like a bunch of five year olds throwing tantrums and throwing baseless claims about people? Where is your fake outrage now?
http://www.facebook.com/dave.adams.714655 Dave Adams

Finally! Somebody with the guts and brains to put all of Obama’s lies in one basket and call him out. You go Glenn Beck – keep the hammer down.
Anonymous

premeditation, pre-planned, and spontaneous are words being used to describe the Lybian crisis. Are we talking about the cover up or the attack itself ?
Anonymous

most people are stupid. Ask someone to explain pros and cons of the electoral college.
MarsBarsTru7

Snowleopard, make sure you temper your distaste for Obama with the knowledge of the reality that he is just one of many in our government poisoning it. He represents one facet of many that need to be removed. He represents the many people he has assigned to run this country from the Executive Office. He represents the money behind the throne.

… In other words, he didn’t build that.

I’m not saying that you are doing it, but it is important that we remain rational about it and understand that by himself, Obama is no bogeyman or monster. Don’t allow him to be a scapegoat for the broader problems. He is just one man representative of a political symptom.

My comment here is not a criticism, but simply a word of caution to one who I respect and am confident will understand.

Be well and God bless.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YYTBAUHTRJT7ES4X3PE2SVZIGU GogMagog

In short, the Lipstick came off the Pig last night, and boy is it ugly !
new2la

I couldn’t watch the debate live last night because of class so I taped it. What I did get to watch before leaving, upset me because I felt he seemed weak. I left for class with a knot in my stomach. So, this morning I watched it and to my surprise, My prayers worked and answered. Why Do I keep questioning God’s miracles? He has proven to me time and time again to put my Faith in Him……Let not my heart be troubled!
greywolfrs

Well, “we” have won nothing. I don’t know who “we” is, but I am not a Republican, so it really doesn’t mean anything to me. Since I will not vote for either, it really doesn’t matter to me, personally. I was simply commenting on the fact that Romney made Obamao look stupid (which is not difficult to do). Obamao looked disinterested and unprepared. Every time they did the side by side, Obamao was looking down at the podium, when Romney was speaking.

The problem is not the corporations. The problem is morons that keep getting elected. They are greedy and only trying to get elected to increase their own wealth. They make the laws which favor corporations and unions and are paid well to do so. Don’t get me wrong, not all of them are that way, but MOST of them are. The thing that really sucks is most Americans are too blind to see it. They keep pulling the lever for the same monkeys that got us into this situation, thinking they are actually going to get us out. That is foolish.
Dave

Yes, Romney did well. How could he not, he’s up against Karl Marx?! Just wish he would speak more specifically TO we the people. That point where poor kids have the education funds follow them around is a perfect example. By doing that you give PARENTS THE CHOICE. Just say it. Look into the camera and say it TO ME! Make sure that the parents know that by reducing the power of government you are giving PARENTS the choice and thus the power!. Follow it up by stating that lower income families PRAY that their kids will be chosen for the few vouchers that are available to get out of terrible schools and are devastated when their kid misses out and yet it was Obama that ended the voucher program in DC. OMG! how many parents would switch parties tomorrow if they had the power to pull their kids out of terrible schools. You don’t even have to go after the unions. The parents will do it for you. If you want to send your kid to a union school, well shame on you, but it will now be YOUR choice, not the governments.
That policy should be applied to ALL students. Don’t cut any funding that actually goes to education, just attach it to the kids and say it to our faces. How many more would vote for him if only for the promise of a better opportunity for their kids?
Good schools would flourish and prosper and the rest…..well good riddance.
America will be saved by future generations of an educated electorate!
I repeat…..

America will be saved by an EDUCATED electorate!
MarsBarsTru7

We – qualified as liberty-loving Americans.

I dropped any loyalty I had left to the Republican Party when Romney became the nominee, although the votes for the NDAA 2012 bill certainly did their part. Will I vote for Democrats? Absolutely not. Am I going to vote for Gary Johnson? Not with his platform. But I’m also certainly not voting for either Romney or Obama… or any other political figure that represents political positions/philosophy that I am fundamentally opposed to, for that matter. I determined some time ago that I would never vote for “the lesser of two evils” again.

Anyway, I agree with pretty much everything you had to say in your comment.

Concerning corporations – Besides ending the mutual influence between big business and government, there needs to be real shareholder liability. The same type of liability that sole proprietors face needs to be translated to the corporate world. Also, there needs to be an end to the unconstitutional concept of “litigation limitations”. Capping litigation settlements is wrong.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Kratzer/1319052915 Wayne Kratzer

Glad Romney was nice to the President. Also thankful he referred to God and Declaration and Constitution; we need an Awakening to save America. Also no cuts for the Rich; they should share more.The way to lose this election is to favor the Rich and selishness. In prayer and praise, way one
Dave

SHARE more? That’s ridiculous. The poor should share more, as in effort and desire to raise their OWN standard of living not steal from the “rich” by voting for more freebies or hoping that someone else will “take care of them”. You wanna share more then give up half your worth to your favorite charity, likely the government. Your twisting of God, Declaration and Constitution is pathetic at best.
And too bad Obama couldn’t return the “niceness” to Romney. What a Fraud.
Dave

grey, why are you even here? you won’t vote and you pose no solutions or alternatives. You are irrelevant. Go do nothing somewhere else.
Dave

grey, why are you even here? you won’t vote and you pose no solutions or
alternatives. You are irrelevant. Go do nothing somewhere else….
Lioness

When someone starts correcting your grammar, it’s only because of their own inadequacy. They usually have nothing of substance to say anyway. In fact, it’s just incredibly pathetic, especially coming from that ass. I noticed a lot of errors in the crap he posts, yet he has no problem passing judgment. What a friggin hypocrite! I know many intelligent people who are not great at spelling and grammar. Some of them are successful enough to just hire a secretary.
greywolfrs

I will vote, just not for another establishment lackey. I do pose solutions and alternatives, just because there a lot fools in this country, like you, doesn’t mean there are no other solutions. I am not your child, go order someone around who you might have some measure of control over.
greywolfrs

I am with you on the voting for the “lesser of two evils.” That is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place. So, Romney and Obamao are no solution. Unfortunately, I live in the greater Los Angeles area and Gary Johnson is for open borders, which means I can not vote for him. I guess I will go for the tried and true Ron Paul vote.
As for corporations, they should have some liability, as should unions. I hear what you are saying about litigation limits, but I think the problem goes far beyond that.
greywolfrs

By the way, keep making assumptions. You do realize that assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups, right? Apparently not. Just because I choose not to vote for Romney or Obamao does not mean that I will not vote. I just will not vote for the clowns the Democraps and Republicans say to vote for. Maybe you should try that or you can continue to be a drone.

On another note, you have all of four posts. So, what was your original User ID or are you another person coming here to troll.
I see you only say this bullshit to me, yet Mars is saying the EXACT same thing. I have a good idea, why don’t you go fuck yourself.
MarsBarsTru7

Yeah, Gary Johnson is too wrong on too many things to be considered a viable alternative to Romney and Obama. Paul will likely end up being my vote too. I live in So. California myself, so I know what you’re saying about the border.
greywolfrs

I actually like some of the things Johnson is saying, but open borders just made me stop listening. I do not think he would be able to do it, if elected, but that alone will never get my vote. Since you live here also, you understand my point. Most people in this country simply do not get the full scope of the problem.
MarsBarsTru7

Unintentional troll is obvious.

Usually I’m the one that gets them. … I feel kinda left out. :-/
ValueSet

I watch C-span. I use my own intellect to discern what is being said by the candidates : I find the inane commentary from the “pundits” insulting. The hubris they present as great “insight”, makes no sense at all.
greywolfrs

Feel free to take a few of mine…
ValueSet

You confuse stupidity with ignorance. Many people do not understand the need for the electoral college, because US Civics is no longer taught in high school. They are ignorant, because they have not received a comprehensive education.
ValueSet

If I may interject a comment here : the most bizarre, weird, wacky excuse for Obama’s flat debate “performance” came from Al Gore –” It was the ALTITUDE of Denver, Colorado (the Mile High City) that put Obama off his game.” I mean, really, Obama just didn’t have enough oxygen to breathe. ( I am not making this up !!!)
Sandie

What was being said by the candidates was carried live on many stations. I get CSPN, CSPN2 and CSPN3. It is interesting to see first hand what went on in the Senate, House, a committee etc and later see it edited down to sound bites, spun, twisted and down right lied about by the MSM and leftists here who want to promote their agenda.
ValueSet

I agree. It is “spun” in such a way that it no longer reflects what actually has transpired. Watching the MSM leaves me incredulous, as to the outright misrepresentation, and falsehoods perpetrated upon the American public in the guise of “objective news reporting”.
Sandie

If you watch what these MSM stations/news broadcaster say and match it up with what you have seen on the Cspans. It will show you which news source may be more investigative and honest about things not covered on CSPN, such as what is happening in the ME and other parts of the world.
Sandie

Gore said that on his Current TV:
http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/10/04/you-won%E2%80%99t-believe-al-gore%E2%80%99s-explanation-for-obama%E2%80%99s-big-debate-loss/
Sandie

What a pleasant surprise, eh? Lets hope there will be a few more!
VindicatorX

Of course he will. Funny how the biggest racists are first to scream accusations of racism.
http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

I don’t let these people get me down. I think I told you about how much I got picked on in high school. This trolls are no different. They hate me because they know they cannot argue with me. I take it as a badge of honor when they make fun of my grammar because then they already lost the debate.
Lioness

School was no picnic for me either, just a little bit further in my memory, but it did enlighten me on the unfortunate pitfalls of humanity. That’s a good way to look at it, you make points that are understandable by any one with a basic understanding of the English language (unlike Obama during the debate), in a format like this it does not have to be perfect, to pick on grammar is a definite copout.
MarsBarsTru7

LMAO… You know, we’re getting into the petty taking issues with dummies like this making insulting comments, but it’s funny how you can find truth in the mindsets of liberals even when it gets into fighting in the mud.

Excellent point Grey.
yingling777

What are you people going to do when they really rub it in your faces and rig the votes for Obama to win? Really, what are you going to do? Are you going to continue to bend over and take it up the rear? Because that’s what they’re going to do, you know. Because you’re all softies and don’t mind if somebody mugs you.
yingling777

You are in for a BIG let-down. Get your antidepressants early.
yingling777

God showed up what he COULD do if we repented!
(Mr) Rene’ Roldan

If I get elected as your president. I assure nobody will dare touch our Medicare to make it mandatory> Nobody dictates to Americans what to do…to revise without the peoples mandate is DICTATORIAL in nature…I assure you nobody will dare touch our SSS without the mandate of the people. Let us give Mr. Obama the pink slip before he messes up the structure of our Republic….God bless America!
(This should be the tone of r. Romney
Anonymous

In next Debate on Foreign Policy Mitt Romney should make perfectly clear that he is truly good ally of Israel !!! That he would not put a knife in back for Israel plans to defend itself from a nuclear threat ,like obama administration did with a leak that Israel going to use a friendly nation air bases on the border of Iran !!!! Second for Romney make statement that it is absolutely wrong for U.S to give a trusted ally of Israel the red light ,to run out the clock until Israel option of per-emptive strike run out,!! Because the super hardening of Iran nuclear sites,obama on purpose throwing Israel under the bus for nuclear attack by Iran ! Our President double talk that Israel free to defend itself at the same time must not do pre-emptive attack with a must heel to obama red light or else !! So obama the perfect one,can make no mistakes thinks his plans of diplomatic & sanctions are fool proof and intelligence on Iran missiles and nuclear devices unshakable ,this is BS talk from a phoney savior !!! Yes maybe Israel should give little time for obama plan ,but not at stake of giving up it’s options up self defense to pending nuclear threat from Iran !! By, obama phoney ruse his plans of diplomatic and sanctions to time for Iran to attain nuclear weapons!! Then obama will say to our trusted ally oops ,Iran sneakily got nuclear weapons,cannot do strike it will put U.S and ships at risk and our Arabic allies !! Don’t forget obama U.N statement Iran nuclear weapons can not be contain! Mitt Romney should say it’s wrong what obama did ,that he will restore Israel options to defend itself from a nuclear threat when it feels necessary we may not join in ,but there will be no red light stop or else from U.S !! To restore Israel option that U.S will lend,loan,lease or give Israel 50 F22 stealth fighters jets to take out radars and anti-aircraft missiles batteries and AAA sites and vulnerable Iran nuclear sites to F22 bomb payload !!! This restore Israel option and will pave clear the path for Israel five B52 bombers lease from U.S ,to carry a super bunker buster bomb to out Iran Super deep and harden nuclear sites without using a nuclear bomb!!! Israel option of self defense be restore to use when they want to not trust any other nation ,ya Israel can trust U.S military ,but not our commander in chief obama !! Israel should be very wary of the drone they shot down the other day ,could be Russian,China,Iran made drone operated by Iran ,fine gaps in Israel radar screen coverage ,or location of radar sites and frequencies to be jam,or at right height and angle see into Israel air-aircraft port protected by dirt concrete burl if the planes are per-arm for a pre-emptive strike! But don’t put it pass for obama to have a fractional element of CIA ,who absolute yes men matter what obama orders ,to fly a drone to gather information on Israel pre-emptive strike ,weakness in Israel defense to leak to the public just as he did before ,secretly give Iran head ups and info to strike Israel !!! Our President is bent on Iran getting nuclear weapons ,he do anything to put a monkey wrench into any Israel plans in defending itself from pending nuclear threat !!! Another part of obama ruse he say he help Israel with missile defense shield ,anyone knows shields are not fool proof and can be overwhelm by salvo launching and Israel is very small country only one or two nuclear bombs and Israel be no more !!! Big picture of obama setting up Israel , Will blame Israel and the Jews for starting a major war that may turn into world war,Israel was force to use nuclear weapons first to Iran super harden nuclear sites because obama ran out the clock on Israel option that only needed conventional bombs to take out these sites!! He will re-incite his none thinking zombies fraction of Blacks,Christians in the hatred of the Jews to jump on campaign bandwagon!! Plus he will aid the radicals Muslims to destroy Israel or make Israel the scapegoat of the world because reacted to very grave nuclear threat to their country or obama stop Israel from DE-nuke Iran and he look the other way so Iran can cause chaos with their threats on free-world and carry their end game to bring down the Great Satan or U.S !!!!
greywolfrs

Hey stupid, how does saying Romney won the debate mean anything other than Romney won the debate? Are you assuming I am a Romney supporter? You do know assumption is the mother of ALL fuck-ups. Maybe you should take your anti-psychotics.
http://www.facebook.com/sylvia.mond Sylvia Mond

He should explain that the 47% are the career welfare recipients that keep having babies and want to continue using drugs and buying guns. And that drug testing should be mandatory for all welfare recipients if they want to keep getting money and medicaid

Glenn Beck

The Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment

What Romney should say tonight

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