The true greatness of America is the opportunity to chase your dreams and make them happen in accordance to your own drive and ambition and abilities; to have the means and ways to be better tomorrow than where you are today, and to seek even brighter things in the future.

We have for too long allowed the dream of being American to be sold out for ‘give it to me now,’ instead of continuing to strive for the better tomorrow, better next year or next decade. Our nation is the greatest to have ever existed as a land of freedom and opportunity.

Now the blasted Marxist in the White House threatens everything; if he gets a second term he will finish the nation in less than two years…

Heed well the time so marked: May 14, 2014.

If we are to avoid the collapse coming in a few months, then Obama has to go once and for all along with the Marxist government he and the progressives have been installing.

Wow talk about spooky.

“When obama called the Navy Seals, the Navy Seals killed Bin Laden.  When the Navy Seals called obama, the Navy Seals got killed.”  From the Alex Jones show.

The problem is not keeping what one earns. We at the left all agree with this just social principle. What we don’t understand is how the right believes that someone who milks the system for obscene amounts of money, who outsources to other countries and sits on money on off-shore accounts (wink, wink –Mitt) can possibly say he deserves more than people who break their back every day working for minimum wage. Explain this to me, please.

Only in America could a foreigner with no talent other than the ability to lie in front of a teleprompter sluff off and smoke dope, never accomplish anything and become President of the United States and win the Nobel Prize.  Gee…could we just have enough Euroism until after the election and little o gets “das boot”. 

There is nothing just about stealing from others which is what the left is foing.  Democrats outsource all kinds of business to foreign countries including Hollywood.  As far as minimum wage, that is where you may start out in the workforce, but please don’t blame the rich for not going to school and bettering yourself or not being able to climb the ladder.  I know some people who barely got out of high school who at least manage those  fast food places and make OK money.  The only thing dumocrats are good at isd blaming other people for their own short-comings.   THERE. Explained enough? I doubt it.  Your ilk will always have another excuse.  

Oh, I forgot. Pink Tapestry; Quit your whining,cry-baby,candyass, poor me crap.  There…I feel much better.

I don’t know ask Obama why it is ok to ship jobs overseas. 

Four years ago my son asked me what socialism was and this video is the exact way I described it to him.  Great job, just sent the link to my home email so my son can see this video, he will love it!

A five year old understands it but a liberal can’t. Shows you how childish they are.

GM’s Suprising Success Story in China,
http://money.cnn.com/2011/07/21/autos/gm_china_success.fortune/index.htm means they have no unions wages to pay and cheaper energy (Thanks to Lib’s Green Energy Policy).  Also, the US has the highest corporate tax rate in the world, thanks to Lib’s demanding more of their fair share.  While the American Taxpayer Bailout to GM is in Chapter 11, GM’s China growth couldn’t look better.  http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2009-06/03/content_7966054.htm

Want to compete and create jobs?  Lower energy costs (Coal & Oil), lower tax rates, reduce the EPA madness on emissions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uBnlXGvA1Wk).  I personally did the research after watching this video and it is correct.

You want socialism?  You end up with poorer rich people and poorer poor people.  If you disagree, then show me one (Just 1) socialist country that has been successfull and kicking our tails.  Please prove your answer with facts.

The only way this could have done a better job of pointing out the flaws of socialism to the kids…is to take their candy and deliver it to the kids at home that were too lazy to even go to the “trunk or treat” function to “earn” candy.  That would be an even better illustration of what the “progressives” are trying to do with America. Afterall, libs aren’t trying to give one workers money to another worker…they are trying to give one workers money to a non-worker. Big diff.

Minimum wage was never intended to be a permanent wage. It’s a starting place to prove yourself and begin to better yourself. Many worth millions and billions started at minimum wage or building stuff in the garage. It’s called the American dream. If you don’t like it, move to Europe!

It is not “deserves” it is “earmed”. There are laws against “milking” (whatever that is, it sounds shady), tax dodging, etc. As long as you *earn* it legally, it is yours to do whatever you want. Mitt, that you mentioned, gives most of his to charity. His choice. There, I bet we are both pro-choice!

If Obama wins, their will be nothing to redistribute in the future.

If Obama wins, their will be nothing to redistribute in the future.

Glad Jones talked about that… It originates from an FB post by ex SEALs that was taken down by FB for hate speech … clearly it wasn’t hate speech nor does it appear to violate their own definition and rules.  I do hope the country is fully awake and does do something on Nov 6th… that it will be a landslide referendum against this progressive nonsense.

Great lesson for the kids to understand “redistribution”, its just “not fair”!

You’ll first have to frame the issue correctly. You’re summary is a biased summary that reflects the nature of the situation incorrectly – and you know it…

Even little kids understand how inane this joker, obumhole is.  Too bad their parents are too stupid to vote for the moslem brotherhood traitorous bastard in chief.

The problem as I see it is that to a growing segment of those on the left everyone that has been more successful than most MUST have stolen, cheated, etc., to get where they are. Working 80 hour weeks to build a business doesn’t even factor into the equation for them. I’ve worked for plenty of small businesses that grew larger and the owner put in more hours than anyone there. Should we demonize and penalize them for their hard work? Or is it only a laborer who works hard for less money that should be respected? Granted, in any system of capitalism OR communism there will be those that WILL get ahead of others through dishonesty, cheating, theft, etc., just one of those facts. There is an agenda afloat with all the demonizing of business owners and those who hold the capital to the future investments that create jobs. The agenda is not about fairness as much as it is about destroying the free enterprise we have and the free will we enjoy.

Just goes to show the ignorance of Obama and the liberals. Scarey!

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; *and a little child shall lead them.* Isaiah 11:6

Wow. Okay. So for you being gay equates to not having guts. Alright, I thought I could expect more from you. Now I know. As I’ve told you before. I work and I am successful at what I do. I do not feel sorry for myself. I guess it is impossible for you that someone who feels we can make this country have a better fairer system is not a socialist, a defeatist, and a fake victim. Thanks for finally showing your true colors. Now, (you) having said that, bite me. Bite me very much.

So you buy the Mittens lies. Good for you!

Sorry, you lost me at your assumption I want socialism. That’s the problem with you, Republicans. You think any initiative at closing the growing gap between rich and poor is socialism. What we want is a better economy. Closing this gap (not obliterating it) is good for the economy. That is why you loose the argument: you think fair system = socialism… so very Foxian of you.

So those stuck in it are just lazy moochers. Right.

Earning things *legally* doesn’t mean one is using the laws in an unethical way. Laws are fallible, obviously. You are obviating this and, specially in these times, doing so is plain naive.

Nope. My statement stands as is. It is synthetic, yes. But it is pretty much the problem with our economic system. The less people have to spend, the worst our economy does. The more the super-rich, transnational stockholders and vulture capitalist amass and take away money from the system, the less people have to spend. It is logic, and it is that simple.

And not everyone who earns things legally uses the laws in an unethical way, do they?

The problem is you assume we don’t believe in free enterprise and free will. That is why you loose the argument. You are attacking ghosts. YOUR ghosts.

No it’s not do some research you idiot. He was wrong about the country Jeep production was going to but not wrong about Jeep production being moved over seas. http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/21/small-jeep-and-fiat-suvs-to-be-built-in-italy/
yah I don’t think Italy is in the United States professor wing nut. So again ask Obama why it is ok to ship jobs over sea.

Explain in real terms what is “milking the system for obscene amounts of money” —just how is that done?

I feel that you have forgotten one important fact, there is no true ‘Right’ or ‘Left’.  These political monicors are outdated.  More useful terms should be used; ‘Constitutionalists’ and ‘Marxists’ seem to fit better.

Anyhow, the old right and left have been blended, so much so, that even though they maintain seperate titles they are still very much alike in a sense that both have been corrupted by lobbyists and personal political greed (prosperity, position or power).  It is this greed that has allowed loopholes, cronyism and nepotisim to run rampant in our governmental structure.

Regarding milking the system, I truly believe that you have answered your own question but only need to change the monitory source (ie. taxes for Federal ‘Left Wing’ social programs that direct the peoples funds into the pet projects of corporate ‘Good ‘ol boys’ pockets for you to understand.  After all isn’t this the same thing; just using a different vehicle?

Not understanding how tax breaks to business’s can increase producitivity in our country by allowing business’s to expand and stay in this country AND hire more employees (thus increasing the tax base for the government to draw on to pay off our Intra-governmental debt) is baffeling to me.  Plus, I know if I were the business owner, why shouldn’t I be able to make obscene amounts of money?  It’s my business, I’ve earned it!

I think your real complaint is with the bastardation of the American dream and the loopholes put in place by both ‘Parties’.  Get rid of the loopholes, lobbyists and cronyism/nepotisim as well as the HUGE social programs we can’t afford and I think we’ll all be happier in the long run.  It won’t be easy or feel good but it will put us back on track.  Also a by-product would be that communities would become communities again and the family unit would probably come back again too! 

You can say you’re for free enterprise and free will all you want but the fact of the matter is the left has an insatiable appetite for regulations that restrict individual liberties. They are never done passing laws that take away rights. They never get to a point where they think any law is too restrictive. Well, with one exception… the only freedom the left feels passionate about is sexual freedom. Everything else though, from what we choose to eat, drink, think, say, drive, consume, buy, it all needs to be legislated against, restricted, banned, controlled, etc., ”for our own good”.

Don’t get too excited.  Eventually many of these kids  will go to Marxist Halls Of Learning (college) and become redistributors themselves.  If it were not so, there would be no Obama — ever.  On the other hand, perhaps it is the Trunk-Or-Treat crowd that has a grasp of justice, propriety and reality.  Oops, my bad, I am possibly inditing Christian fundamental churches (trunk or treat organizers in large part).  Those horribly well-balanced individuals who understand the essence of the Declaration of Indespendence, the Constitution of the U.S. and believe in the Creator may be a light in these dark days of our nation.  It is for certain that everone and anyone  who has been IN CHARGE up to now, have been abysmal failures.

That’s hardly a retort to the point. You seem to need a little debate coaching…

But, that’s not a response to the objection. It’s deflecting the point which was that not everyone who does well is abusing the system. Please do try to keep up, won’t you?

What’s wrong with sharing your candy with kids who didn’t get much? I can see marks in school not being given to others who didn’t study, but the kids all went trick or treating. There’s a fine line between share & take from others.

I’m not saying anybody that works is a lazy moocher. I’m just saying minimum wage isn’t intended to be a long term wage. If they are “stuck in it”, they need to be more ambitious. Perhaps their parents were socialists and didn’t teach their kids to reach for the stars…so they don’t. Either way, we shouldn’t have to subsidize their lack of ambition. The left doesn’t care about these people, they care about gaining power and keeping it. They understand socialist rule #1;  if you rob peter to pay paul, you can always count on paul’s support. They don’t care if robbing peter is wrong. Progressive politicians are notorious tight wads when it comes to charitable giving. They only want to give away other people’s money. So un-American!

Hahahaha – that’s a good way to illustrate that lesson to the kids. About a year or so ago i was talking to one of the cashiers at one of my deliveries and she asked me to explain what redistribution of wealth was, since i had to get going i gave her a simple lesson : i said ” imagine you have 100 dollars in your purse and i have 50 dollars in my wallet, redistribution of wealth will require you to JUST GIVE me 25 dollars of YOUR money ( which YOU have earned ) so that we will both have 75 dollars

Glenn you are right,i came from Germany and i worked there for 25 years,once a worker always a worker ,thats the motto over there,in contrast here,i made it from a worker to a forman to a supervisor in just 5 years,God i love this country

Despite billions and billions in social programs, we sit today with 15% at or below the poverty level, just like fifty years ago.  Perhaps it has only to do with a natural bell curve. A huge percent of the money supporting those programs comes from…guess who… the rich. Today, the top 1% pay 39% of all federal income taxes, and probably a disproportionate share of all excise, sales and property taxes as well, along with a greater share of charity, endowments, university donations, community contributions, etc, etc, etc. The year for the greatest revenue taken in by the federal government was 2007, under GW Bush’s tax system.  What some do not grasp is that the best way to fund the government is for a larger number of people to work and contribute; not to just take that much more from those already contributing. That is not fair. Under this president, there are approximately 6,000,000 fewer workers than in the final year before he took office. Not only does that mean that 6 million more are being supported by social programs that are estimated to cost as much as 60,000 per person per year; they are also not contributing anything in the way of federal income tax, social security tax, or medicare tax.  The pool of taxpayers shrinks, those living off them grows. America needs to work, period, and President Obama does not have the know-how or the experience to make that happen.  The anemic growth we have seen has been in spite of his policies. The rich getting richer is not the problem of the moment…America not working is. It just can’t work; there is no greater problem than America not working.  We need a president who has at least a modest understanding of the importance of WORK. This one doesn’t; he only understands taking from someone and giving it to someone else.  That is all he has ever done. Think about it…have you ever heard one of his soaring speeches about getting America back to work, without taking a swipe at the rich?  I thought not.

 Sharing should be voluntary; not forced. It is no longer sharing when it is required, a la taxation.

That was a funny video. I think it’s funny that all these dumb M F ers want redistribution of wealth, until someone wants to redistribute THEIR wealth, then it’s not a good idea…
That’s Obamao and his crowd for you.

They understand perfectly (liberals), they want redistribution of wealth, as long as it is someone else’s wealth, not their own.

Hey stupid, maybe have a higher goal in life than working at Burger King. I think it’s funny that you say that about Romney, considering every Democrap in Washington is doing the same fucking thing, yet you have no issues with them. That is stupidity, I guess that’s why your name is finestupidity.

This isn’t a matter of kids getting it right and liberals getting it wrong. It’s a matter that kids see that “grownups” must share whatever they have because that’s their experience.  Kids don’t have to share because they are kids (unresponsible).  Liberals are simply adult kids who have transferred parental responsibility to authority figures.  Now government has to do the redistribution so liberals can remain “free” (unresponsible) like when they were kids.  This happens when we don’t teach responsibility.  Kids are automatically liberals and have to be taught to be conservative.  If we don’t do this as parents, then the liberal kids take over and the world fails.  Use the kid’s relunctance to give things up as the doorway to responsibility, or you will see the video kids demanding their share when they grow up.

Fair is a term subject to interpretation. For me fairness is for me to hire or fire anyone for any reason or no reason if the business belongs to me. I should not be forced to rent to people I don’t care to, for any reason. Your rights stop where mine begin. It matters nothing what you think is fair.

On the other matter, you complain about Glenn being a bigot and you don’t state the precise example other than he disagrees with your opinions and lifestyle. I can’t speak for him, but I assume he wants you to have your own life but keep it to yourself and don’t try to push it off on others. I fail to see what is wrong with that. When you whine and pi– and moan about how you are mistreated, you come off like a wuss. Frankly I don’t care about your opinion of me, but feel what ever you want that makes you feel better about your victimhood. I don’t think I ever mentioned guts but then there is a lot you hear that is never said.

Barak Obama sat on a wall. Barak Obama had a great fall!
All the kings horses and all the kings men,  couldn’t put Obama
together again!  (Politicaly speaking!)

No they are stuck their because of liberals like you how don’t understand basic economics and play the class war fare 24/7 instead of actually doing something to bring the economy out of the damn hole it is in. Sorry trickle up is moronic and only shows how you guys have a lack of basic economics and you say we right wingers don’t believe in gravity.

Most of the time,when I meet someone with leftist attitudes that refuse to debate reason, I ask “What part of Europe did you or your family come from, the part whose ass we kicked or the part whose ass we saved”.  It works every time.  The WWII “greatest generation” accomplished more in four years than any other generation, ever.  My father and two of his brothers and my mothers only brother fought in WWII.  My dad was in Burma on “The Road” with the Army COE and watched the allied POWs as they were released from the Japanese camps. His next oldest brother was with Patton in Africa and Europe and watched as the Nazis camps were discovered.  The younger brother was with a B-17 crew over Europe and was fortunate to return home.  My mothers only brother didn’t return home from the South Pacific.  I served in the US Navy from 1966 through 1969 and the Viet Nam theater in 1968 as a Navy Hospitalman and USMC Corpsman and served aboard the “Big E”, the USS Repose and the USS Lexington.  I lost several HS class mates during that time.  Now you know where I came from.  Anchors Aweigh, Semper Fi; God Bless America; Freedon Is NOT Free; I Touched The Wall, It Touched Me; All Gave Some, Some Gave All.  Regards, George S. Reagan, Sr., Fort Worth, the Great State of Texas, home of Glenn Beck and crew.

If a parent has 2 kids and one candy bar, the kids have to be taught that even though one child
grabbed the candy first, they should share it with the other. This is not redistribution of wealth but common decency. A soldier will share his canteen of water with his buddy even if his buddy used all of his water foolishly…..redistribution? No, charity.

ill try in 1992 when Clinton passed the trade agreements my company had more work than we could get to doing Industrial training little by little i saw all our jobs go out of the country when Obama care passed i saw that rate increase even with the Big Drug research companys going  out of the country Oil rigs shout down the list goes on and on there plan to take from us and send it over seas is working but killing us and most of us never had a off shore account just working people now im out of business  hope you get it but think you wont

A child can understand the truth of the Bible if  the  traditions of men where thrown OUT! also the children should be told> this is what will happen to you if Mr. B is elected again. Look what we have allowed to happen to our children.disgrace

right on! but I thought the Seals called Obama for Osama and he had to think on it for couple hours,,,,,

I’m all for redistribution of wealth (NOT!!).  Let’s see…Every Democrat, including Obama and wife, Moochelle, can send me 10% of their monthly earnings…every month until I die.    Sounds fair to me.

hows this?

 Hummm, good point!  I think I should share 50% of what ever you have with whomever I think deserves, no Strike that / whomever needs it!! Yup, that sounds like a good government policy.  And, we will call it common decency, or being fair.  If they don’t like it we  will call them 1 %’ers……….. Your right, it’s not redistribution, it’s charity. Wow ! ! what a concept.  Hope we don’t run out of those pesky one percent’ers.  Besides, when they are poor like the rest of us, they won’t have to worry about investing all that money in a business.  Heck, we don’t need jobs.  We just need more charity.  Somehow being a recipient of CHARITY doesn’t make me proud……  When I raised my Children I taught them to be generous.  I never taught them to take from others to be generous.

I think youth vote for the redistribution candidate because they are usually supported at least in part by their parents, their teachers are usually liberal and are telling lies in the classroom (I learned this by personal experience) and because they are not making it financially when they are in college and getting help from other people seems to be a great idea because they do not realize in what ways they will have to pay for it later in their lives.  Many are short sighted at this stage in their life and they naively believe that the media always tells the complete truth ( I remember that I believed that the media told the truth for the most part).  Students in high school and college are required to do research papers and site their sources.  They are told by their teachers that newspaper periodicals and certain “credible” websites report accurate information and so they believe the lie that the media is unbiased because their teachers tell them that they are reliable sources of information.  They don’t do extra research because they are busy socializing (no, that’s not what socialism is ;o)), going to school, starting careers, dating, etc. so they just take the media at their word.

Some people work hard for minimum wage, and some people work hard for $200k a year. Is that fair? Should everyone that works hard get the same pay? This is what your argument sounds like.

ja – in den Arsch – all the way up !

who was outsourceing jobs – what did obummer send to brazil, oh yea - Oil Jobs and where did Mr. Bigshot GE send electric Bulbs and Solarpanels and solar cars and everything GE made before to where a yea ???China, Sweden (like they could even begin to do any testing by all the sun they got) and to top off this incompetence he invests Millions of taxdollars in solyndra and the like of that one and dares to show his face laughing at us dumb taxpayers.  Are you lefties really that uncritical – if a bully would do this in a small scale to your kid at school you would probably blow your top right? so what has he done any different???  and don’t give me the Bush excuse that is a bunch of malarky  and you know it too. You Know what I started working as a waitress. saved and sure it took me some years but I finally had my own business and Mr. Romney let me tell you did the same thing because that is how thing progress. And do you not know that all these unions and Mr.Pres. and each of those gov.moochers have their OH SO HARD EARNED MONEY (sitting in congress sleeping or picking their noses or what ever) in these exact same offshore accounts - heeeelllloooo got it?  You see it is not the wealthy that milk the system it the ones that think the have a right to everything if the worked for it or not that is where this problem originates. Sorry man  this is just wrong.

So I hope Steven wasn’t giving out candy. I hope he was only redistributing it. Then he’s really like the gov’t, pretending to give, but in reality he’s got nothing to give unless he first takes it from someone else.

I’m sharing this on facebook!
Do more research on Seal Team 6. It get’s worse.

Apparently the left believe that there should be a “limit” set on how much money someone should make. I personally believe that movie stars are WAY overpaid , sorry your word, obscene amounts of money (don’t see any of those lefties saying that they should only make $50,000.00), any movie stars endorsements made overseas? Wonder  where and what kind of money they have?  By the way, people who put in long hours, take the risk of starting a business and possibly loosing everything if enough work isn’t put into it have the POSSIBILITY of making MORE than someone who doesn’t have enough confidence, self restraint and guts to work for someone else. They should be able to reap their rewards.

I guess you never got that it was a metaphor. Rich people are no really up and poor down. They both live on the earth. Furthermore, there is no absolute metaphorical gravitational pull when it comes to money mobility. Money moves ever which way interests and power leads it.

It always amazes me people who see the whole of reality through foxnews glasses.

No. That is just the willingly ignorant anti-commie anti-socialist reduction of a straight forward ethical position towards screwed-up economic systems.

Appearances can be deceiving. No, I cannot speak for all at the left. But I can tell you this, many of our arguments are deformed by the right to push them way over to extreme and failed forms of socialism or communism. As I’ve said. We are for free market, enterprise and will. We are freedom lovers, yes, just as you. But we do read Kant, and define freedom not as lawlessness, doing whatever one wants without an ounce of regulation, but as intelligent laws which impede immoral and aberrant human behaviors (to which weak-willed people gravitate to). There are evil groups out there, and I’m talking about private enterprises that exploit people and resources in such ways to resemble slavery and, to be blunt, “crapping where you eat”. Government has the responsibility to stop these people who, most often than not, are so out of touch with the repercussions of their own actions that they are “unaware” of the overall damage they are causing the rest of us. And that, not giving a crap about everyone else, just their own, makes them evil. Ask yourself, what would Jesus think of these irresponsible life-energy-resources reapers?

You may not say things, but you imply them, and you know it. Now you choose to move away from your own words or try to paint them a different color than when they came out. Okay. NP. Be well.

“without taking a swipe at the rich” –so much love for the rich. Makes a Christian wonder.

Why don’t you just call it what it is socialism?

I TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS THE MOST RIGGED E,LECTION IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICAN VOTING,THIS IDEA OF EARLY VOTING, AND ABSENTEE ( CAN BE FIXED, ) TAMPERED WITH  TO EASY.IT MAKES ONE ONE TO THROUGH IN THE SPUNGE AND GO OUT AND DO WHAT SHOULD BE DONE………WE NEED TO GET AMERICA BACK AGAIN WITH LESS GOVERNMENTLE POWER AND ENFORCEMENT UNDOLY APPLIED

Thank You for taking the bait as I knew you would, as do all liberals. They cannot resist being the victim. Just because I said you were a whiner, does not mean you lack courage. I know people who whine constantly, but would still jump into a fight in a New York minute. It has nothing to do with guts, but with being responsible for your own actions which you do not. Like all liberals, you blame others for your short-comings ie blaming others because they have certain standards which may not agree with your lifestyle instead of maybe thinking that your lifestyle choice is wrong. Okay SH? Stay safe.

my little nephews and niece  would be better at the job then a liberal would be.

Glad I could serve to feed your prejudice.

 The key is the extent they ask for. If they want the bare necessities, truth is, the churches can and easily would provide that.

The truth is, they want to be able to sit in laziness, sloth, and vice, and get a check sent to them from the government, instead of being forced to humbly ask for charity.

It’s about the soul, not the money. Their arrogance, their inability to humbly ask for assistance.

Frankly, if the government is going to give welfare, it should at least get them to work for it. Heck with millions of able-bodied people on welfare, they government could get corporations to pay the welfare rates and give medical benefits in exchange for the employees working for them (it’d be essentially lower than minimum wage and bring a competitive advantage for factory work stateside).

That’d plug the costs quite well. The problem is just sending a check to people who are capable of work and not working. There is PLENTY of work to go around.

Is that your personal judgement? You seem to be oozing with your own prejudices. God gave us the standards and he will judge accordingly.

Hiding behind God again?

There is no safer place to be. In his hands I am safe. /the question you should ask yourself is “are you hiding from God?”.

You know well that is not what I meant. It is very different to stand with God than to use the idea of him to pretend to have infallible judgment towards others. The former requires humility, the later, well, only vanity and pride.

Really? God is clear about what is right and what is wrong. You misunderstand. I say God will judge in the end but he tells us to judge here rightly as to what is right and wrong using his word. I don’t know where you got the idea that I think I am infallible. Far from it. That is why I rely on what God says rather than what feels right to me. Now if you don’t listen to what he says then how do you say you follow him. Yet there is forgiveness whith Christ. In him we are refreshed and renewed each day. Some people are comfortable in their sins and don’t want to change. As far as vanity and pride are concerned, I,like Paul, would say that even the faith I have is not of my own. I have been chosen and I am blessed beyond measure, not because of any worthiness in me, but what Christ did for me on the cross. By grace ye are saved…