Yay! England puts (some) restrictions on death panels!

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Good news for people who don’t want to see their loved ones ushered off to an untimely grave by a system of socialized medicine. New restrictions in England’s NHS will require doctors to gets permission from patients before placing them on an end-of-life pathway, and the mortally ill cannot have their food and fluid taken away by medical professionals without telling their relatives!

Glenn read the story from the Daily Mail:

Putting patients on the ‘death pathway’ without consulting their families will be outlawed next week.

Jeremy Hunt is to make it a legal requirement that doctors fully explain the end-of-life treatment in order to obtain consent.

The Health Secretary has acted after the Mail highlighted chilling cases in which patients were placed on the Liverpool Care Pathway – which involves withdrawal of fluids and food – without their relatives’ knowledge.

On Monday he will announce rule changes that will see end-of-life care included for the first time in the NHS Constitution. 

The new law is a victory for patients and their families who do not want to be placed on a treatment path that leads to death in an average of 33 days. While the LCP is designed to make things easier for people who have a terminal disease, critics believe it has been overused in order to bring about an early death.

“Well, that also fits right in with the death panels and the people who decide what kind of care you have you and whether you’re worthy to have it,” Pat said on radio.

“Remember, we were modeled after, our healthcare, ObamaCare, was modeled after this,” Glenn said. “This is the headline from our ally:  ‘Victory for Care Pathway families’.  And what’s amazing is this is the way the president won this election.  He went to psychologists and said, ‘Help me.’  And they did, and they manipulated everything.  You’ll notice ‘Care Pathway’ families.  ‘Care Pathway’.  It’s a death pathway.  They’re starving you to death.”

“How does that become a care pathway?  Because they’re removing care?   It should be lack of care pathway, right?” Pat said.

Glenn said that it’s a progressive strategy to take an organization or idea with an unpopular agenda and name it something that makes it sound a lot better than it actually is. For example, Pro-choice implies that those who are anti-abortion are anti-choice.  Media Matters for America sounds like an unbiased media group, but really pushes a liberal agenda and attempts to shut down conservative voices. The list goes on.

Glenn did point out that the families were able to push back against this progressive treatment. “They fought back, which means you win.  You just have to educate yourself about it, and you go local.  It’s not too late.  You go local.  Make sure Agenda 21 is not in your community.  More on this on Monday’s broadcast.”

  • Anonymous

    Today young boys and girls in American schools  can receive birth-control as early as the eighth grade, girls can also have abortions without parental consent, and they’re set up through the school system. So is this what Obamacare has in store for us – death without consent – the hell with the death panels,that we were blaming the Republicans for – bring on the cattle-cars…can anyone say, Auschwitz

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Idea – just get rid of the death panel’s completely.

    Excellent idea – send the progressives, communists and extremists to the death panels; let them learn first hand what they plan for America…from their victims side.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Exactly, euthanasia and genocide are not too far off. 

  • SoThere

    To the liberals, abortion is a means of population, welfare expense and minority control.

    They know that they can only support so many poor people on their welfare roles. They need just enough to get the votes so they can get elected but no so many that they can’t control them with free stuff and welfare. It’s a balancing act that the Black community and the poor have fallen prey to. Margaret Sanger knew this and promoted the abortion of black babies as a means of population control. Blacks have a high number of abortions and there are more abortion clinics in black communities than any other.

    Fifty million less people is just a means of preventing the poor and minorities from revolting in mass uprisings demanding more free stuff. Greece and Spain come to mind right now.

    They walk the tightrope.

  • landofaahs

    Heck Ireland just voted to give govt. the right to come in and take children from families without any charges and for any reason.  Evil liberal progressives know no limits.

  • landofaahs

    I want to be on that panel when the decision is made to off liberals.  Could we consider that a retroactive abortion?

  • landofaahs

    Look at Kathleen Sebelius.  Tell me she does not look like a mortician/grim reaper.

  • SoThere

    Shades of G.B. Shaw and Margaret Sanger.

  • Anonymous

     Sounds like Obama better start caring (aborting) asap…as it stands, one out of every three tax dollars (Federal and State) goes to fund the welfare state. Oh that’s right, the professional politics are bartering a national budget as we speak, wow glad for that, I was starting to get worried…I’m sure they have everything under control.

  • Anonymous

     Those were the weapons (woops) I mean “tools of choice” – way back in the forties…one has to wonder whats in store today. strange-dazzzzze….we live in

  • Anonymous

    And ya know they’re not going to take the slobbering kid  who’s got chocolate and spaghetti sauce all over his face….no, their taking only the “Good Aryan’s”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/W3E3M5V2NSS63M35NQ6QSCIOPI imnoangel512

    Surprise there are death panels in the european universal health care. Something we always knew and tried to tell others was in Obamacare because it was modeled after Europe. It is population control nothing more in the guise of “helping”.

  • Anonymous

    I assure you, those in Congress and In charge, will have a much different health care, than the rest of the citizens of the  U.S. of America.  What is it called “weeding out the undesirables”.

  • Anonymous

    Of course the young voters are not concerned with this line of thinking.

  • Anonymous

    After death comes judgement, and while the elite of this world may fare better with their special health care I suspect they won’t fare as well at the judgement, PS no panels involved, just the supreme Judge of the universe, Jesus Christ.

  • Anonymous

    Up here in Canada we’ve been cursed with a socialist medical system since the mid ’60s. It was running fairly well until the late ’70s, then the wheels started falling off. Also in the ’70s the progressive government decided to make Canada a “multi-cultural” country. We the people weren’t asked ahead of time. The unstated reason was to foil the english/french duality up here. But the side benefits were that the ruling party (your version of the Democrats) made sure all the 3rd worlders flooding in knew exactly who brought them in, which translated into a massive voting block for themselves that’s still going on today. They wanted the “breeders” in order to produce good little ethnic block voters,and to breed like rabbits and make even more good little taxpayers to fleece. Their kids started overwhelming our medical system. It’s very common to walk into any emergency ward and see entire families, from kids to grandparents all lining up waiting for their free public medical care. The next wave of immigrants came during the ’80s, and they have a cultural thing where it is a bragging point as to how many times you see a doctor. They breed like rabbits too. So our entire system was starting to melt down from just demographic factors. But, like you in the US, the medical system cost increases kept rising and rising. Quite a few years ago I saw a flyer that was a local hospital trying to raise funds for new equipment, but it had a twist, instead of just begging cash, they had photos and prices of the items they needed. A thermometer for only $750!?! You get the idea. Sadly then came the difference in wages etc paid to doctors and nurses up here compared to what was offered down there in the US. That drove many medical experts and workers down to breathe the fresh air of freedom. Can’t blame them, I’d do it too. So now we’re left with a system that’s sucking up every last dollar of the government with huge increases each year. Not enough doctors, nurses, or beds. Cancer and heart disease waiting lists that are months or more long (people actually die up here while they’re waiting). It’s almost impossible to find a family doctor up here that’s accepting new patients, which means we’re left with the true agony of walk-in clinics (try a random doctor at one when you have a difficult ongoing medical issue). And we have the same problem with an aging population as anywhere, which will eventually swamp the already stretched thin resources. Things that we have that you are about to have is a totally bloated medical bureaucracy, as well as highly militant and greedy unions, and all suck mightily off the public tit. Up until now our only recourse to get good timely medical care has been for the richer-off to go down to the US and pay for their care. At least that shortens the waiting lists up here a bit. No, there’s no “death panels” per say up here, but the elderly are discreetly told that the government won’t offer such and such service, or will be advised that the procedure wouldn’t be medically wise because of their “condition”. In some cases that’s true, but it’s a subtle way of not allocating medical resources for those that are old and pointless in wasting money on. I already know that no panel down there will decide case by case. Instead they’ll just make broad bureaucratic one size fits all policies on what services and procedures will apply based on technocrat calculations.

    Good luck you guys, I feel sorry for you, you are only just beginning your journey into your new hell, and the collapse of your world envied excellent medical system and care.

  • Anonymous

    First, they use birth control as a way of helping the poor young kids who get pregnant. These kids don’t understand it is a means to depopulate our country. Next they will give the elderly a chance to commit suicide as a way to help them leave this world peacefully. It is all about murder. They sell it to us as something helpful. We need to be smart enough to see that they don’t give a rats behind about any of us. We must say what it is. Murder!

  • Anonymous

    Where will the Canadians go now? They used to flea to the US. But now our healthcare is just as bad. I can’t understand why America have bought in to this horrible healthcare law. Doctors are going out of business. I know technicians that can’t find jobs because the reimbursements aren’t there. The $716 billion dollars that was taken out of Medicare and put in to Obamacare has impacted the medical field dramatically. The patients don’t understand that they are not getting the same quality of testing. How can they? The time allotted to do the tests are cut in half. They cannot do adequate testing in that time frame. Then the surgeons are turning people down who have Medicaid. It doesn’t pay for them to do the surgery. People are not going to understand until someone they love become sick and need medical attention.

  • Anonymous

    Can you imagine being put on this death panel and not knowing it? It could happen here. Time to be self reliant. If you need the government, you are in trouble. Go back to the old days when people knew how to heal and provide for their families. My great-grandmother knew such skills to heal using herbs and other things. Families must stick together so this doesn’t happen to your loved ones.

  • Anonymous

    You’ve captured the smiling, yet sinister, liberal party very good. Meanwhile the accusations never cease when painting the conservatives as the most violent hate driven individuals in our society. This is the only thing taught in our places of learning anymore…at every level. At this late date, about the only way possible to keep our children safe from this never ending onslaught of mind-control – keep them at home and as far away from these evil influential liars as we can and train them up in the way they should go ourselves. Otherwise, what we are looking at, is a willing takeover of our nation and if we are forced to go to war, over this attack on our family’s – resulting in potentially losing our nation – we’d be fighting against our own children who’s minds have now been stolen and sold into the thinking they must hate the very ones who love them most…the parent.

    Another thing that we must admit to ourselves- Americas broken homes – having no fathers, the children are looking for guidance in their lives – without it, they revert to hooking up with these liberal socialists for support and guidance. Once they do, they’re lost.

  • Anonymous

    In my opinion, we already do have a quasi death panel in existence right now, it’s called hospice.  My father was placed on a feeding tube when he was unable to swallow early on in an 8 1/2 mo. illness, the only serious illness he had had in his 88 years.  While challenging at no time was my father’s illness painful.  Mid-term, the hospice nurse suggested I might consider withholding sustenance as a humane method of death.  I was horrified and put her advice straight out of my mind.  My father could still understand our communications even though his responses were non-verbal.  We valued every last minute of time spent together until his death.  Life is too precious to end before its own time.

  • BentGhazi

    Now they want to kill us by starvation and thirst. What next? If you are terminally ill there are choices to make, and I would not attempt to influence anyone’s decisions at such a personal time. Why do these people think that anyone should take their “advice”? It’s not bad enough that a person might be facing a painful death, now they want to horn in and give them a push.

    The VA had a pamphlet they were distributing at VA facilities nationwide a couple of years ago encouraging older vets with terminal disease to choose ending their suffering on their own. After a firestorm of complaints from veterans and their families these pamphlets were pulled. 

    This is absolutely ghoulish and selfish for anyone to suggest they should end their own life for the betterment of others, but in this case for them to starve people to death without their knowledge or consent is depraved, and it’s murder.

  • Anonymous

    we have the worst Congress ever. Zero backbone & zero economic thinking

  • Anonymous

    We won’t be able to go anywhere, we’ll just die as we should and be the good little sheep that we are. Don’t forget, we love our dictatorial governments up here. We didn’t want any part of your revolution, and after you guys one, where did you think a lot of those that were still loyal to the crown went? Our most recognized national symbol around the world is a cop (dressed in a funky red tunic). We only exist to obey and pay our masters, and we’re too stupid to do much more than bitch and moan when amongst close friends. But the government was wise and did what any communist country does, highly restrict, outright ban, and otherwise make it extremely difficult to own decent weaponry. The government doesn’t fear us. And best yet, the socialists up here created an brand new constitution 30 years ago. Down there, it’s the people that give the government certain rights. Up here it’s the government that bestows rights on us. Down there, if there’s no law against it, then do as you please. Up here, unless the government has made a rule or regulation or otherwise said it’s lawful, you’re out of luck. And the government, press and educational system as taken almost 50 years to slowly brainwash and indoctrinate the population. Now we have 3 generations that actually think this new improved Canada is swell, and think that the US is the root of all evil. Does that ring any bells? Still wondering how the Democrats kicked butt? You guys don’t have the sorry track record of the press and government (well, it’s been going on for years, but nowhere as bad as the last 4), but you do have an educational system that’s been very busy creating generations of good little socialists.

    I do fully understand what’s you’ve said about what’s now been happening down there. It mirrors a lot of what the system up here is like. My useless doctor starts looking at his watch after 3 minutes. And ask him about something else? No way no how. I have to make another appointment 2 weeks to a month and a half away. Why? Because each visit is a single billing to him. If he pretends he’s an actual family doctor and wants to help his patients when they go to visit him and hear about other issues (they might actually be medically related you know) then he only gets to bill for his services once. Worse, my joke doctor spends most of his days in the walk-in clinic downstairs because he makes more for those visits.

    Canadians brag about their “free” medical system. Not so fast, by law, we all have to pay monthly medical premiums to a government entity. If you don’t the feds will grab it at tax time. I hate to wait 10 months to get an MRI on my knee once. My old (good) doctor said I could go next door to his office and get it done in 15 minutes. But our tax freedom day is in late August, so there’s a whole bunch of us that don’t have $2000 burning a whole in their pockets to spend on an MRI. Big government equals big taxes.

    Yep, you guys are well and truly f*cked now. Welcome to Obama’s great leap forward.

    Does that ring a bell? It was Mao and Red China’s mantra.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Todd/1424651317 Scott Todd

    I wish there were a way to copy your words over to my Facebook page. One thing the libs like is equality even if it means equal suffering. Of course the elites always seem to escape what they have planned for the rest of us.

  • Sandie

    I can just see the day when they provide an abortion for some young girl unbeknownst to the parents and the child dies or falls into a coma or vegetative state because she has some medical condition that would contraindicate that medical procedure.

  • Anonymous

    What makes you think it hasn’t already happened, especially with such a left leaning media. Either way, the school system would find a way to pin the blame on the parents…that’s how corrupt our society has become. Meanwhile, its the kids who are suffering most because of the so-called adults who rule over them.

  • Anonymous

    Very true. It is sad that these kids who want a family to care about them is snatched up by our government. It is very much like the kids that end up in gangs. They do it to fit in and be loved. But this is not love, it is control. I fear the day that we would have to go against one of our family members because they have been lost to mind control. I almost feel my own son has gone against the conservative beliefs after he went to college. The professors had a way of making parents look out of touch. I experienced this with many kids. The kids love it because they want to know more than mom and dad. They just don’t know history and what is going down. So I am called someone who loves conspiracies instead of holding the truth. It will be a matter of time before I am seen as knowing the truth. Hopefully people will heed the warnings. The average person does not spend their time doing the research to find out the necessary information. They are so busy with their lives. That is why it is so easy for the government to do what they are doing. They know very well what people are interested in. It is about the rich and famous and other stuff.

    If Obama wanted to help this country, he would reach out to the broken homes and help the poor people in need. I don’t see him doing a thing but implementing these type of policies that will rid the world of these people for good. This way he won’t have to worry about them anymore.

  • Anonymous

    I CAN’T WAIT FOR OBAMAS THIRD AND FORTH TERM    ….  CAN YOU?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care how you word it Mr Obama it is still just MURDER to helpless people. something you will have to answer to god for.

  • Anonymous

    I fear America will end up the same. It sounds very similar to what we already have. The media has always been liberal as far back as I can remember. It is worse now. They are covering for Obama will every breathe. I can’t even watch it anymore. I want to shake some of these people or scream at them to wake up.

    You would think that when the people in Canada got sick and tired of the healthcare they gave you that they would rebel. I am hoping that people here wake up and do something before it is too late. It seems that people here are more interested in free birth control and abortion than actual healthcare that will save lives. Obama knew that would get them aboard. I trust no one in office. Not a republican or a democrat.

    Maybe Americans will read your testimony and see where we are heading. Thanks for sharing it.

  • Anonymous

    Their line of thinking is “MOM & DAD WILL FIX IT FOR ME” no way will they let me suffer like that.

  • Anonymous

    This is something that is being taught to our babies. This makes me sick.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a verse in the bible that says…”teach them in the way they should go and they’ll come back to it”

    That verse not only lets us parents know, that there is an adjustment period in child-rearing and God is telling us – no matter how good a parent we may be – human nature screams to be independent. After all, our children are completely under our control and influence, from the time they are born for two decades on average. Its only natural for them to want to spread their wings, to experience the beauty of making ones own decisions. Many times we humans take the wrong path, peer-pressure is the leading cause, but, as I said, that verse gives the parents hope when after a few bad choices are made by these, now young adults, common-sense kicks in and they come back to sound reason and rational thought.

    In the end…it boils down to the fact that each of us…all humans…are responsible for the decisions we make and also… in the end…we must answer to a higher being about those decisions.

  • Anonymous

    I dug into everything I could find out about Obama before he even ran for President and read all the books I could find and looked up on my computer. If everyone had done that he would not got as many votes.

  • Anonymous

    Very sad. Also, the media didn’t vet him so people thought someone else already did the work to check him out.

  • Anonymous

    Government only loves Government this shouldn’t be shocking to any of us here.

  • Sandie

    If it has, I hope her parents make a big stink of it and make sure the public is aware.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000303879569 Nanette Gray

    This is because the agenda of The New World Order is coming, across the globe those in power know times are going to get worse, they are trying to lower the population. This is just the second step in getting ready for depopulation. Abortion was first, then killing off those through end of life pathways and next will be death to those that are physically and mentally challenged! This is not just about this administration, he is implementing that which many presidents talked about years ago. God said there would be those that are blinded and refuse to turn to Him…we are here, look up for your redemption draws neigh!

  • http://twitter.com/Jennife52596447 JenniferTownsend

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PGJZA6HFIZKBN42EZ6367GH6IM Ajean72

    Are you kidding? You want people to believe that a select group of rich people are controlling our destiny, we outnumber them, yet are powerless to stop it. I think we need to stop subscribing to conspiracy theories and educate our kids about what is coming.

  • Sandie

    @twitter-950618522:disqus  you parasites want to advertise your stuff free, without paying here? It is not allowed. No one will get sucked into your tricks.

  • greywolfrs

    I guess Sarah wasn’t off her rocker after all.

  • Sandie

    Just think of the suffering for these people, now that Medical science has shown that they are aware!

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/man-in-vegetative-coma-tells-researchers-through-brain-scans-hes-not-in-pain/

  • landofaahs

    Yep

  • Anonymous

    Coming to a state near you. It will prove interesting for sure.

  • Anonymous

    We need to educate our young ones period. Texas is the answer since our textbooks originate there.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4HAW7OERGSC7VZM72V7IGDJ3B4 Sharmane

    You have to love the euphemisms these people come up with to distort and confuse and not call something by its true name!  They are very clever, yes very clever indeed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mark.dickinson.35110 Mark Dickinson

     I am English, I have to tell you, absolutely never get your English news from Glenn Beck or the Daily Mail. The Daily Mail is known as a ridiculous newspaper over here, here is a far more balanced story from the BBC (which is known for its impartiality and its attention to facts, if you do not believe this, then it is someone who is ridiculously biased saying it eg. the Daily Mail). The ‘Death Panels’ do not exist, the Liverpool Care Pathway is simply a way of not giving invasive and painful procedures to people that will die anyway, basically its used when any benefit of these procedures would only prolong life an insignificant length, whilst causing too much pain to be worth it. Because large numbers of people die in hospital it is unsurprising that there are a few cases where people are unhappy with the care their loved ones received, there are complaints in any hospital system. I’m here to tell you that the vast majority of people in England are extremely happy we have the NHS system, and we are proud that in England, health care is free so if you are poor you may receive it.
    Here is a quote from the BBC article
    “Only last month 20 organisations, including patient groups such as Age UK
    and the Alzheimer’s Society and medical organisations like the British
    Medical Association and Royal College of Physicians, put their names to a
    joint statement criticising the “often inaccurate” coverage the issue
    was getting.”
    In England medical professionals and groups such as the Alzheimers Society understand the need for the Care Pathway, to stop medical procedures causing too much pain for people and allowing them to die in dignity when the situation has gone past the point of no hope. Do not disregard these highly respected experts in order to buy into a Glenn Beck and Daily Mail scare story.
    Thank You
    Mark Dickinson

  • Anonymous

    The Pilgrims ended socialism when they arrived and now we can thank the liberals for bring it back.

  • Anonymous

     In reply to walkintruth:

    Yes, I have had great fears as I’ve sat up here impotently watching your
    country for many years. You used to be a beacon of hope for the world. I
    say used to be because that status changed forever after Reagan left
    office. Bush the elder was a decent man, but I truly suspect (I’m not
    all the way out in Alex Jones land yet) he was an agent for the infamous
    New World Order. I do buy into the threat of that, because I have seen
    it germinate up here first. Our closet communist leader for many years,
    Pierre Elliot Trudeau, was pushing a concept called “North/South”. In
    other words, a convenient way to thumb his nose at the US and the
    European allies, and try to get other countries to aggressively do a
    massive wealth shift from north to south. In other words, from developed
    countries to the 3rd world (with a healthy dose going to the so-called
    non-aligned countries at the time). His partner in crime back then was a man called Maurice Strong.
    Google either of them to find out more. But that concept has been
    modulated in the New World Order, and specifically the global warming,
    climate change, cap and trade initiatives now. Words do matter, as you
    have obviously noticed how semantics and terms have warped over the
    years to what is said now. Clinton and Gore were very cozy with the Chinese. Bush the younger, well, he was a very decent man, but alas, a bit over his head. And Obama? Off the scale. I would consider him the most dangerous man ever to hold the presidency. I personally think he’s being controlled by higher ups. They say he’s intelligent, and he probably is, but not to the extent that is touted. He’s given multiple glimpses that he is quite capable of monumental stupidity. By himself, he could do enough damage, but as a willing puppet, he’s wrecking the US in almost all ways. I’d hate to think there’s no higher ups, because that would mean it’s just him, and that is monstrous. I bet the red serge boys and the SS will be knocking on my door one day. Especially because over on the Blaze I’m ECOMCON. Google that and find out what that stands for. I personally think it’s almost time. Try watching the movie, a slight parallel is happening with Petreous now.

    But my main intent is to stand and shout from the highest rooftops, a simple soapbox is not sufficient now. I have watched disgustedly all this happen before up here in Canada. I have sent numerous e-mails to the collective brain trust of the RNC and various commentators over the years. I said to myself, you fools. You stupid well meaning and honest fools. You didn’t see what was happening under your very noses. Even though Canada’s political system is very different than yours, there are enough direct parallels that easily show that what happened up here many years ago and is ongoing, is now taken full root down there. The commentators have a good point about Greece and the European Union (best example of the New World order) economically. But they completely missed the real point, which is the mutating of the social system and covenant. You don’t have to look across the Atlantic to see what your future is. All you would have had to do is pay attention to your neighbor up north. And for the most part, we operate in English, so it would’ve been very easy to follow along in real time without it being rarely spoken of and filtered in boring textbooks. You are the new Canada!!!! Even with your different political system. No, you’re not an elected dictatorship like we are up here, but what’s been happening is the same.

    The USSR was very good at what it did. They weren’t crazies, so there never was a serious threat off global nuclear annihilation. Instead they took the slow and easy way to destroy the west. Don’t forget, even though some of them were Europeans, they still had a distinctly Asian mindset, so time is of no consequence when you want to achieve something. They had a policy of destroying their enemy from within. Cheap and easy, without their own cities glowing for 250,000 years. They co-opted the pesky progressive movement that had operated in the shadows for a long time. They found willing dupes in the intelligentsia to follow and obey their KGB controllers. The first main actor is this nefarious play was Dr. Spock. The greatest generation came from the depression and WW2, and wanted to give their kids the best of everything, and the best of themselves. Sadly too many followed the new fangled parenting advice of that pied piper. And what did we get? Hippies. Snot nosed little bastards that wanted to tune in, drop out, and burn down the system. Yes, I am a boomer myself. The colleges and universities had always had closet commies teaching the students. But carefully selected cadres were found in the student population. They went on to form many of the early dangerous organizations. And the KGB controllers happily followed in the shadows. Always whispering, always giving helpful tips. Capitalism? Bad.  ‘Nam? Very bad. No Nukes? Neuter yourselves. Earth as a god itself? See religion. The nuclear family? Women’s lib (and take away jobs from men causing unemployment, and the lowering of wages for all -  supply and demand – making it almost impossible to support a family without 2 incomes. But of course, the tax revenues went up for the government). Religion? Remove the moral compass. The press and popular media? No rocket science there. Etc etc etc. But education was the key. Shape young minds, make a whole new “class” of people. The old ways were bad. parents are bad. There’s almost no ideas or positions of the left that aren’t directly opposed to the national interest of the free states. They are in direct opposition to the welfare of free capitalist nation states. Europe followed the siren call at roughly the same time Canada did. The left has always been our enemy. But which country did they aid the most? The USSR. Funny how that always happened eh? The USSR is dead and buried (OK, Putin might be trying a comeback under a different name – words and semantics matter, remember?). So what we’re left with no is a handover that just keeps on giving. The left over here no longer needs to take their marching orders from the past. To them, the past is now. So destroy from within they did. Sun Tzu couldn’t have done it better.

    So I can’t strongly enough state that the left is and always has been our enemy. Pick any of their positions. Do they seem right to you? Or do they reek of single mined destruction of all that the US and free capitalist nations stand for, or should I say, stood for. Each individual must make a choice, but base it on knowledge of history.

    I’d be happy to come down there and slap sense into some of the leading lights in the Congress, the Senate, and the RNC. I’d sit them down and teach them what’s been happening. How the left has shifted the 3 younger generations, and thereby shifting the political center of your country. It wasn’t Romney who lost the election. It was the left that won. It’s a brave new world down there. There are ways to regain power, it’s been done up here. Gee, pay attention to your northern neighbor. The right up here went through a schism for a few years (our version of your Tea Party), but eventually coalesced into a successful merge which is mainly controlled by the right within the party. And yes, runs the country very well right now.

    The left has ripped out the old base of the nation. Adjust and adapt to the new reality. The old one will not be coming back. Get used to it. But get smart, and you will succeed. It won’t be perfect, but it’ll be a whole lot better than what it is now, and where it’s being taken.

     

  • Anonymous

     Try copying and pasting the essay, then copy and paste the link under it. That should be a good workaround on Facebook.

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t trust a word that the Daily Mail says….  Check that papers history,they supportted the British Union of Fascists back in the 30′s 

  • Anonymous

     But it’s also a means to totally bankrupt the moral center of the population. Once individual life has no meaning they have succeeded. Then almost anything is possible for them to achieve.

  • SoThere

    Shades of 30′s Germany. The people voted Adolf Hitler into office. Most Germans were happy to do away with the Jews.  They wanted their stuff.

  • Anonymous

     When I had step kids 20 years ago I’d have spend time every night to de-program them from the crap they had been taught in school that day. I couldn’t believe the stuff that was pounded into their head daily. Our schools up here have been totally PC for over almost 40 years. The kids don’t learn much about reading n writing and arithmetic. It’s all about how to get along, how to be socially diverse, how the teachers unions are only in it for the kids, how to be perfect little socialist drones. History gets re-written and shoved into their little heads. How our socialist parties are the ones who are the best. You name it, it’s total indoctrination. They started putting rubber machines into the school washrooms a long time ago. They start sex ed in elementary school at a very low grade. They removed religion in the classroom decades ago. And obviously, we never did have to pledge allegiance even in my time. It’s one big grand social experiment. But it has worked.

    Over in Korea the college kids love to riot and burn things down. But once they grow up and become useful members of society they regain their senses and are for the most part conservative. It wasn’t as bad over here in North America. Some collage agers were conservative, and most lefties eventually grew up and became conservative. Age and wisdom go together. But now, the majority remain wedded to their early indoctrination. That’s why I say it’s a whole new world, which true conservatives have to learn to adapt to, and find a way to thrive. It’s possible.

  • Anonymous

    Not sure what you mean. I don’t see any link.

  • Anonymous

    Yes and no. Hitler didn’t form his government with a majority of votes. They had a multi party system not unlike parliamentary systems. That means the party with the most votes attains power, not the one with the majority of votes. There was plenty of other dirty dealings going on behind the scene at the time. Essentially Hitler stole the power. After that he quickly outlawed the other parties (the communist party first – only smart thing he ever did) and thereby attaining true dictatorial power. The rest was a brilliant exercise in national opinion shaping. Goebbels must have studied Machiavelli very well, as well as some of Wilson’s cohorts. Machiavelli taught that the best way to rally the people behind a cause it to find and identify an enemy. Use nationalism to bring cohesion of purpose. The US has done it in their own way (think of WW1 and 2) as well as notice how China has been pushing nationalism now. It creates mass effect, when internal politics and troubles can make the population object or revolt. He directed a carefully crafted campaign that used the age old European prejudice against the Jews to the Nazi’s favour. One of the reasons most of the out and out extermination camps were located in Poland was the fact that the Poles were some of the most vehement haters of the Jews already in Europe. Less local disruptions and opposition, not withstanding the small amount of brave Polish underground fighters.

    Yes, the Nazi’s also used the politics on envy. namely, how the Jews were rich, how they were supposedly ruling all the governments inside the previous German Republic and also around the world. How everything was the Jews fault.

    The Nazis were a purely socialist government. They practiced early indoctrination of their kids. They regulated everything in people’s lives. But unlike Obama’s crowd, they ruled with an iron fist and through fear. And they weren’t fooling around. Your current socialist rulers do things more subtly. But think how they have used class warfare in their propaganda, which is just the politics of envy. Think how the Homeland Security apparatus is growing slowly almost unnoticed, by new executive orders. Think how the democratically elected Congress and Senate have become virtually irrelevant. Think how the mass media and the press have been used as tools to spread the propaganda. Draw direct comparisons to how the Nazis, and yes the Soviets too, used the educational system to, at best, build future generations of party members, and at worst, a future population that won’t stand in their way. How thought and speech that doesn’t conform is condemned and eliminated.

    I’ll end with this famous quote:

    All that is necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing.

  • Anonymous

     Sorry, meant the message to go as a reply to Todd. System mixed it up somehow.

  • SoThere

    “That means the party with the most votes attains power, not the one with the majority of votes.”

    Do you see what’s wrong with that statement? Also, your statement about the Poles hating the Jews the most so they had the camps in Poland is pure nonsense. The reason was purely geographical.

    You have some strange ideas about why things happened but accurate historical fact isn’t going to be changed on a forum like this.

    Thanks for your post but I’m not going to rehash WWII with you. It’s not going to be productive in solving our problems here.

  • Anonymous

     In reply to SoThere:

    A majority of votes means 50.1% of the total votes. In multi party systems the votes get fractured amongst many different parties. There is no clear majority. In other words, if a party gets 28% of the total popular vote, and the next highest gets 22% and the rest split the rest of the votes, it’s the 28% party that forms the government. Does that clarify things?

    You’re correct about the geographical location being good for what they wanted to do in regards to rail transportation hubs and also central location to other countries, but it was also based on the cultural prejudices of the location too. They could have located them in Russia because the Russians also had centuries of cultural bias against the jews. Both Poland and Russia always had the most hatred of the Jews throughout a few centuries of history. The western states also had this bias in varying degrees., but not to the extent (historically proven time and time again) of those two eastern countries. So obviously the Nazis based their decision on more than one factor. They may have been crazy but they weren’t stupid. My comments have been based on historical and cultural facts, and I wasn’t rehashing any world war tactical strategies. I will point out though, that Russia wasn’t selected for more than one or two camps because it was too close to the front lines. Guess that’s another factor in the decision making.

    Maybe I’ve read too much history over the years.

  • BentGhazi

    This will be ignored by Obama and his crew – they don’t understand the intricacies of medicine and the human ability to adapt and overcome even some of the most profound damage. It’s the human will to survive that they ignore, and they think if it has no value to them that it is OK to destroy and dispose of it. It’s their universal standard applied equally to The Constitution, the expressed will of the voters, and the people themselves.

    Remember how the cliques in school worked? This is how the Obama regime functions.

  • Sandie

    If they are going to kill these people, it is more humane to euthanize them gently … but no, they will make them suffer from dehydration and starvation, like they did with Terri Schiavo. If it comes to that with me, just shoot me in the head when I’m not looking.

  • Anonymous

    At Dr appointment in 2010: Told my doc that my federal government was going to kill me through denying healthcare and we probably should plan on any severe illness not being treated.  And his short answer?  “Yes”.
    The women in my family live to well over 100 and great grandmother was 105  and recalled the Civil War; so perhaps I will have the last laugh.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, talk about a fact free zone!

    The Liverpool Care Pathway is meant for patients who are within days or weeks of dying from terminal illnesses, and consisted of palliative care to ease the suffering of the remainder of their lives.  It is a decision regularly taken in the US medical system too when the benefits of medical interventions to prolong life (usually for patients who are no longer conscious) are outweighed by the suffering that aggressive treatments cause.  Someone who is well into their 80s suffering from a debilitating condition that they will never recover from would usually rather, given the choice, die peacefully at home surrounded by their loved ones rather than spend weeks in pain and suffering only to die anyway.

    The controversy here is that one hospital was choosing it for patients without informing the family.  Naturally this caused an outcry, and was not how the pathway was meant to be implemented.  So when it became public knowledge, there was an enquiry and now it will be illegal.

    Beck also says that Obamacare was modelled on the British system.  Really?  Either he has no clue, or is wilfully misleading his audience.  If I get cancer under the British system, I get treatment.  Under Obamacare it still depends on you having private health insurance.  Under the British system, even large employers don’t have to worry about providing healthcare for their employees, because it is provided for everyone.  Under the British system treatments offered are based on medical evidence, under the American system, private insurers still get to deny certain treatments.  Obamacare starts to at least address this issue by setting minimum coverage requirements.

    More people will get healthcare under Obamacare.  Competition between private insurers increases. Everybody wins.

    Here’s a comparison from someone who has experienced both systems:
    http://potentialandexpectations.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/this-americans-experience-of-britains-healthcare-system/comment-page-2/