The love of many will wax cold.  1/3 of the Earth destroyed. 1/3 of the waters bittered.  The drone like flyers with the power of stinging in their tails.  God is allowing America to fill her cup to overflowing with it’s violence, baby murder, envy, theft, and perversion.  Judgement is coming and God has his time.

 GREAT letter!
If it were written in America I’m sure one or more of said children would probably try to take the parents to court and sue them.

This letter probably should have been written when his kids were little, but perhaps it’s not too late, both for this man and his wife to finally get a backbone, as well as the kids.   And I agree with Stu, it’s a letter that the American people need to have read to them as well.   May God grant us ears to hear and a collective heart to repent.   

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Occupy’s legacy to the world laziness and unbounded stupidity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlZBarGDD6o&feature=share&list=PLhvqwtWNGnjKXj_xoPlIXAssAtUvvyuRS

I could not agree more with Stu’s comments.  America “illiterate electorate” needs to wake up and if they are of age, become responsible adults, not looking for something for nothing.  The scriptures tell us that if you don’t work, you don’t eat.  It is time these lazy good-for-nothings do something besides get their faces on TV yelling about Obama phones.  Get your butts out of bed and go to work doing anything to earn a dollar, if it is scrubbing floors, doing laundry, anything honest that enables you to face yourself in the mirror with a feeling of accomplishment.  Many of you have no idea how good one feels about oneself when you have done an honest job and earned your salary, no matter how small it is.  Give it a try, you may find a really neat person living in your skin.

I can’t blame the parents (entirely) for the behavior of their (so called) adult children.  Remember, EVERYONE gets a trophy – even if you suck!

So what do the people who work for places like wal-mart & Mcdonalds who are getting paid about $8.90 per  hour while these company make record profits. When they go to get goverment assistance because there not getting paid a fair wage. But if they try strike for more pay so they don’t need assistance conservatives say that they are wrong for that. So waht would you like them to do. When you make comments like that you show that you just say what ever the talking points for the right is without doing research.

Bravo to the man who wrote this. In the UK they have been coddling little socialists for twice as long as the US has, and look what the results are – College students that resort to rioting at the suggestion they pay for their education. Remember that a couple of years ago? The steering of society into group-think and political correctness has done more damage than can be seen. There is much more in this situation than the letter details, and it is a wide-spread problem. The entitlement mindset is killing the initiative of generations of young people who don’t have any comprehension of the concepts of working hard and achieving goals. They simply don’t see the value in that, and they don’t know what self esteem is, much less its value to the mental well-being of the individual. 

As long as this continues, as long as Uncle Sugar takes care of the babies that refuse to strike out on their own and be responsible individuals this is not going to change. 

Excuse me, but children are a reflection of their parents.  While I agree that there are to many inept, complaining young people around, I have to wonder what kind of discipline and guidance (too much, too little)  did these kids have while growing up.  Chances are Dad was on a submarine while Mum took hold of child rearing.  I’m not blaming the parents, because in the end,  it’s up to  sons and daughters to decide whether or not they want to change their lives for the better.  I think this whole family needs counselling.  It’s too bad because the grandchildren will be affected and the whole miserable situation will be perpetuated.  I saw it happen in my own family.  Troubled parents = troubled kids = troubled grandkids, etc, unless someone breaks the chain and turns their life around.

Good point

i wonder what the kids have to say. this is just one side of the story.

what did people EVER do in life?
It’s not like this a recent development.
I did it when the min wage was 3.35/hr….

Keep in mind that this irresponsible lifestyle is regaled in the socialist community as “the people needing our help”.  I see no near-term reversal of this “it’s not my fault” ideology.  I remember seeing the pictures of the British men and women of WWII, trying desperately to save London during Hitler’s incessant bombing.  I wondered how they had the resolve to go on Churchill said, “Let it be said, this was their finest hour.”  THAT WAS their finest hour.  Today, the grandsons and granddaughters of those brave souls, whine and throw Molotov cocktails at the police, ignorant of a day when their ancestors stood in greatness to save THEIR future.  But, ignorance is bliss today.  Look at the likes of Harry Reid, Pelosi and the rag-tag group of losers on both sides of the aisle and tell me America does not deserve better.  They are already in lock-step with their own fate.  England is but the canary in our dark coal mine.

 Jobs like you mention are beginning of work life jobs or the end of work life jobs. If you want a better job, work your way up the ladder, get a better education and start further up the ladder or start your own business and grow it up the ladder. Your premise is nothing more than what the good Captain was writing about and you couldn’t see it.

Corey, all the people who have come before you have had to work low paying jobs at first and work their way up to become successful. You think it should be handed to you, and the left-wing talking points you recite are evidence of your wrong-headed thinking. I don’t blame you, but the people who installed these ideas in your head are not doing you any favors. 

Do you have any idea how much your parents were paid at your age doing entry level jobs? For example, as a private in the US Army, I received $175.00 a month, and that was less than I made working entry level jobs before I enlisted. Compare that, and the kind of work I and my fellow soldiers were expected to perform to working at WalMart for $8.90 per hour. I don’t know how old you are, or what you get paid, but someone has filled your head with stuff that just isn’t true. 

Who told you $8.90 an hour wasn’t a fair wage? A lot of people in the world make a lot less than that and they would feel very lucky to get that much money. Someone has got you to buy into false expectations, and for that I feel sorry for you, but considering you aren’t getting shot at, or expected to do the same to someone else who is shooting at you, you are more fortunate than you have been told you are.

Amen.  That letter was like reading a letter George Washington, the Father of our country, might send to US and how bitterly disappointed he must be in us.  I know how disappointed in us I am.

Pat Buchanan’s new book “Suicide of a Superpower” says it all…… the Empire is over. but the underachieving dumbed down masses won’t catch on until their free lunch coupons are revoked. and their beloved nanny state turns on them.

That letter with a very few minor modifications could be sent from George Washington and a few of the early people who founded America, addressed to the inept, greedy, corrupt politicians from at least 50 years ago through the current useless crop in Wash.d.c. today and be a perfect admonishment to how perfectly useless they are.

So true, and it will turn on them. It always does, and always will.

As a former US nuclear submariner I can understand this Brit’s incredulity at his kids blowing their fortunes (meaning future not monies) by boneheaded choices. Not said but implied is that he and his wife are still helping their grown kids who can not provide for their own families. Our younger generation in America can not take up the mantle of leading the world, they ask “what can my country do for me.” Drugs and video games, casual sex and freebies from the government is what most seem to want.  He comes from a disciplined educated world where life and death is separated by dedicated professionals working hard.

If able-bodied people cannot or will not better themselves and put out the effort required to better their situations, as most of us have done, then they must accept their lot in life.  It’s the life they made for themselves,in most cases through bad decision making.  Why is that anyone else’s fault but their own?

People can not live off min. wage. There are people who work full time and have to live in ahelter have to choose between food for there kids or helthcare for there kids. While the coperations make record profits. Whats amazing is that the productivty of the america has gone up while work pay has flatlined. And you tell me that right. What is amazing is that coperations seem to be more important to you than people are. 

In his years as a nuclear submarine skipper, he always had a crew of achievers to help him do his job.  I am sure that, as a commanding officer, he was proud of his men and took comfort in that fact that tey worked hard every day.
 
In  his personal life, however, he could never have those feeling toward his kids.  What a contrast between his lazy do-nothing, whining kids, and those young men, who as nuclear submarine sailors, worked hard  every day to help defend his country.
 
His message meeds to be read and understood. 

Russ Dodge, proud community college professor

I agree with this man. Young people of today have not been tested, they do not know ,or understand hard times. The young feel they are entitled to everything, and if anything goes wrong in their lives they blame every one else, they never take responsible for their own actions.

So it’s wrong for works to fight for fair pay. So can some tell me when did we stop caring about people. It’s is amazing that companies are more important to you than people.

Those are “starter” jobs, not jobs you spend life working.  You work for min wage while you are in school, studying for a more complex position for the rest of your adult working life.

You don’t study underwater basket-weaving or gender studies — something the bsns world could care less about.  Study something useful and push these worthless degrees out of the curriculum.

My brother started at McDonald’s, then as a vet’s go-fur while he was in school.  He’s a doctor in private practice, living comfortably w/two sons who are Eagle Scouts.  THAT’S how you do it.

Thank God for starter jobs.  They get you experience in money matters.  They get you experience in the working world.  But, don’t plan on staying there forever!

It’s an entry into the labor market — far better than sitting on your butt at home watching the big-screen my tax money bought you.

 You miss the point, little Corey  If you are able to put your sex drive on hold long enough to finish high school and get a job at Walmart or McDonald’s (BEFORE you start making babies- get it?), and you show up for work EVERY day, neat, clean and respectful, a magical thing will happen.

You will be promoted, and make more money.  Both Wally World and Mickey D’s promote from within, and they have excellent career paths for folks who have the drive and interest to do an outstanding job.

There is nothing that keeps people in low-wage entry level no-skills-needed jobs except themselves.

Striking for higher wages for no-skill jobs is idiotic (especially since these are non-union positions and striking isn’t really possible, you moron).

Want better wages?  Do a better job.  Come to work earlier, leave later, call your boss ma’am or sir.  Ask if there is something “extra” you can do, just to help out.

But please- if you want to be a useless drone with no marketable skills don’t whine about the bad compensation, ‘kay?

20 years ago, I needed that letter.  I did, eventually wake up.  My children, on the other hand, are 2 of the hardest working people I know.  They’re responsible individuals who are excellent parents.  I tell them they raised themselves well.  It would be good if the father who wrote that letter doesn’t cave in.

 I did.
Oh and lookey here – I made it with no handouts or nanny state reliance.
I suppose you could join the union, go to work for Hostess, go o n strike and turn down an offer for less pay and lose your job anyway huh?

Corey, tunja described those jobs precisely as what they are, and exactly how to resolve the issue. But here you go whining about corporate profits and blaming someone else. Stop victimizing people who do not better their circumstances. Your poor proletariat rant is sad, tired, and pathetic.

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After high school, I got a job making $3.50 and hour working shifts at a nearby paper mill (1972).  I thought that I was in “high cotton” with plenty of money until one night I was working with a skilled carpenter loading paper rolls into a rail car at 2 am.  I asked him how much he made after 20 years on the job.  He said “I’m up to $3.75 an hour!”

I decided to apply for a NDSL loan, applied to the local university to attend college with only a C+ high school grade average.  I had no family to depend on.  In fact, my stepfather did not want to attend college!

I worked my way through college and got a job as a Civil Engineer upon graduation.  I’m retired now, but I topped out at $150k a year as a program manager four years ago.

If you want to make more money, you need to better yourself with education and work hard.  Don’t expect someone else to take care of you.  You need to be able to take some risks in order to move ahead.  It is not up to the Government (or Wal-Mart or the Union) to make sure that you have enough money for the lifestyle that you choose.  Striking is not the answer, which just yields a bit higher pay for fewer people.  It’s up to you to better your lot.  Stand out.  Work Hard.  Take advantage of the opportunities that present themselves.  This is your job, not mine.

If Mcdonald would just pay them a fair wage they would not need goverment assistance. Mcdonald could have double the salary for all there employees and still have there most profitable year. You can not sit there and say my son did something so screew everybody who could not. We need to start being honest not everybody has the same life and have diffrent situation and because there situation is diffrent from your does not make the lazy or bad people. For most of the breaks just didn’t go there way like it did for the rest of us. We all have to reconize that there is alot of luck and blessing to be in our situation that does not mean it body is less. We need to start caring about people not companies.

 I did it when the minimum wage was $0.  Worked 6 days a week as a delivery man for $1.50/hr and 7 evenings a week in a McDonalds for $1/hr so I could pay for college. Also washed dishes, tended bar, cut hair, anything legal to make money.  Get off your asses, stop whingeing, get busy and it will work out.  The harder you work, the luckier you will get.

I fought my two sons during their tween and teen years, just to stay in school and make something of themselves.  My ex left when the youngest was 11, in 1988, and he went bonkers.  Fought me tooth and nail until his older brother by 8 years, took him in.  Later he spent some jail time, twice, and just couldn’t seem to get his act together.  Up until she left, the ex had a great job and good pay as I had a BS in Engineering and a fantastic job.  The older son got his GED and taught himself computer and software and is a successful businessman.  He is married and has two kids that are doing great in school. I still can’t figure out WHY. 

Look at how much thing cost and you tell me that 8.90 is a livable wage. You must remeber that things in my parents day does not cost the same as things are today. It’s not left wing talking point it’s research i actually talk to these people. Why are companies more important than people.

My parents felt that way about my younger sister but it really was reflective of not accepting her and her talents and trying to shoehorn her into their mold….you reap what you sow…children just don’t grow up well without direction, guidance, discipline, and most of all, love.  My three children are early 40′s to mid 30′s and one is a successful heart surgeon, one is the CFO of an oil company and one is an anesthesiologist.  Our nine grandchildren are getting good guidance and love and discipline and growing up well.  We ourselves were children of alcoholics and made it our mission to break that cycle and feel we have been successful.

“I am born therefore I deserve a “living wage” ” – where did they get THAT BS from ?!?!?!?

What about people who could not get that loan. just because that what happened to you does not mean that someone is will have the same opportunity. Like me I got a grant just because i was considered an orphan because both of my parents past away. So for me to tell somebody you should just go to school i did. Well there situation is not the same as mind. We need to start understanding that.

 I find it interesting that you speak as if these people have no choices. As with another commenter I enlisted, I made 87.50 a month to start. I fought in a war, came home used the GI bill worked for a min wage job, $2.50 an hr for me, and went to school at night. I worked another job on the weekends, same wage. But I learned, from that I progressed, I created a Corporation of my own, I ended up giving jobs to almost a 100 people, benefits included. I sold that firm and now have retired. I don’t want to hear you say you can’t progress, you can do anything you want too. As long as you are willing to work, bite the bullet, dig deep and make it happen. It is your choice to accept where you are, no one but you makes that choice.

Corey you have to quit fixating on what the corporations are doing or making and think about what you are doing. At the end of the day you and what you do and the only things that matter.
What goes around comes around and your hard work will pay off if you keep at it.  The corporation will be taken care of by someone much higher than you when the time comes TRUST ME

That is a very bad statement (Corey If you are able to put your sex drive on hold long enough to finish high school and get a job at Walmart or McDonald’s (BEFORE you start making babies- get it?), and you show up for work EVERY day, neat, clean and respectful, a magical thing will happen.) Everybody who works in those store didn’t just start having babies in high school and it show that you are closed minded you should talk to alot of thenm get to know there story before you say something mean spirited and untrue like that. I would excepct more compassion from a christian.

 When I was in college I worked for $1.25 an hour. When my husband came home from Viet Nam he worked construction for $2 an hour. Yes, things have changed, but as you said, people need to start somewhere with an entry level job – simply to learn how to do the job.

I give thanks every day that my children have a strong work ethic and don’t expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter while they sit on their backsides.

I like that old system of “If you don’t work, you don’t eat.”

 I so agree with you landofaahs.

The same thing that I do living $1000 a month Social Security and VA!!! Spend less, and Budget!!!

This could have been written to our daughter, a bit differently, but the basics of self centeredness, disregrd for the feelings of her children & parents and disrespect of others.  Add the entitlement attitude & you’ve got a bit of a picture.  No, she’s not speaking to us, nor will she let us see our granddaughters.

Minimum wage had just been raised to $1.30 per hour when I started working in 1964. A half gallor of ice cream cost .49. EVERYTHING goes up. Some people parlay opportunity into success, some do not. But you’re missing the point if you think this is about minimum-wage jobs. This story is about parents who failed to give their children the direction and support they needed while growing up. Stu should look in a great big mirror ans ask where he went wrong. Then he should try to figure it out without pointing fingers at his children.

Yes that is true but alot of these compainies promote people to higer position and don’t give them raise or the raise that they get does not match what the pay rate is for that job market. You really need to start researching what these companies are doing to people.

 Absolutely. I know two men who would gladly work for 8.90 an hour but can’t find a job even paying that. I started off at $2.50 an hour at Michigan Bell, right out of high school. I thought I was a millionaire. Today’s young people are basically ruined and I don’t think there is anything we can do about it.

The people behind those companies put their money and their time on the line to provide the jobs. If there’s no profit, they STILL have to pay the wages, the rent, the power bill, etc.

In other words, they put their resources at risk. And sometimes, there IS no profit. But they keep on because they’re working for something. They go into debt and accept even more risk- and keep trying.

Employees put nothing at risk. THAT’S why companies deserve to make a profit.

So if a person works hard for years for a company and still just making min. wage. That’s ok. If a company is not payng employees what he market says they should get paid that ok too. So basicly companies and there profit margin are more important to you than people.

Whatever your income, you need to live within a bdget.  If that mans you don’t buy alcohol, tobacco or cell phones, that’s the way it has to be.  Many from previous generations have done without what we considered nonessential items.  Get a roommate, a second job, whatever it takes.  Quit expecting to have everything handed to you.

 Did it ever occur to you that people should learn to make a living BEFORE they bring children into the world?  It’s called being responsible.

And did it ever occur toyou that some people work at more than one job?

Another great letter by a disappointed parent, but “mum and dad” also hold some degree of responsibility. Kids grow into what they see while they grow. In this case, it is apparent dad and mum were less than the perfect parents, or the children would have learned some degree of responsibility – which this letter strongly hints they did not. 

Places like that pay their people as much as they can because they have to compete with others that need the same labor. As an example, take a business that has 3 people working in it. For the sake of simplicity, suppose that all 3 make $10 per hour. That means that the business has to take in $30 per hour just to pay those people. That does not include burgers and power. A business like a burger stand typically has around 30% of its expenses in labor. 

You continue to make this about individual people but its not. Its about the REAL WORLD.  And the real world does not change for an individual.  The individual has to learn how to live (and work) in the real world.  Too many of today’s kids haven’t learned that lesson, even from the best of parents.  They think they are entitled to have right now, what took their parents 25 years to work for themselves.  And when they don’t get instant gratification, they whine that its someone else’s fault, the wage isn’t fair, blah blah blah. 8.90 IS a fair wage for a nonskilled job.  Its above minimum wage, so I’d say someone who is making 8.90/hour is damn lucky.

Wrong, If you look at Mcdonads and wal mart they can double  they pay of all there employees and still make record profits this year. And Hostess you all jump on the works but the executive the one’s that bankrupted the company they all get $1.75 million dollars in bonus afterthey bankrupted the company and the works get nothing. But again companies are more important to you than people.

Every state in the nation has a childrens healthcare program.  Get real & quit belly aching as you’re sitting on your computer.  That’s something else you do not need.

It also might do you good to learn to speak proper English & learn how to spell.

 It’s not that corp. are more important, except that many would have no job. We have always had good healthcare, even for the very poor and I should know.

 then let them get another job if there is one that pays better

No it’s about how you guys have fell into the company and not people model. This is happening all over the country and is not isolated incident. you say non-skilled but do they not work there butts of do they not have to deal with attitudes from people. people in these non-skilled jobs have a tougher day at work then any of us it is a skill just to deal with people

There are the doers and the whiners like Corey here.  At one time I held three jobs to provide for my family and I didn’t complain. Those were times long ago, but it holds true even today. It’s no use blaming others or big corporations for your own state of mind and misfortunes. You will idle away blaming somebody all your life and will not get ahead unless you blame yourself, it’s YOUR choice.

8.90 is more than minimum wage, and if you make a budget where you list the things you NEED not the things you WANT, you can make a living on 8.90/hour if you share a place with someone.  My son was able to do it.

You keep making this about people, individual people, but its not.  Its about the REAL WORLD and how kids these days think the world should change for them or they dig their heels in and whine. 

Well, the bottom line is that the real world isn’t going to change for them, the real world doesn’t care about them.  If they want to change their situation, the only way to do it is to do it themselves.  That is REALITY.  That has always BEEN reality.  The difference is that kids today don’t see it that way.  And parents who buy into their kids’ mentality aren’t doing their kids any favors.

When my kids throw your arguments in my face, I’m happy to remind them that I have an education, and THAT is why I make the salary I do (and with God’s good grace of course).  They could make the same, if they would put their priorities in order, go back to school, and live on a budget instead of impulsively buying what they can’t really afford and don’t really need.

Anyone can look for another job if they are unhappy with their current circumstances.  If you don’t qualify for something better, invest in some education, don’t have kids, & make some sacrifices like generations before you did.  Americans (even poor) have it better than others in many parts of the world.  You want companies & rich people to provide for you & you just aren’t admitting it.  That’s jealousy & pathetic. 

Nope, they have alreay reaserched and found out that most of these compnies can double the salary of all there employees and still have record profits. Just go look at how much of Mcdonalds and wal mart is actually pay roll.

Some parents have given their kids what they needed in te way of direction  & support & the still grow up feeling entitled & controlling.

With how much thing is you just can’t do that on 8.90 an hour. It’s not having anything handed to me i have my own company. And for them they don’t want hand out there not marching for free money they just want to be paid a fair wage for there hard Work. Go look up how much of these companies profit actually go to payroll.

What  do you expect from a clan of brit-brats brought up in a secular-humanist, socialist environment?  Being taught since birth that the government is supposed to take care of them, and they aren’t “responsible” for their actions. Take away God, and replace Him with government and abject immorality…that’s what you end up with.  Take a look at our country’s youth that gets fed this “progressive” crap from the moment they start pre-pre-pre-pre-school, all the way through the liberal bastions that are our universities. They are the same way. Can you say 99%er’s?   This is the “new normal”…and a gift from the commies and socialists that have taken over the democratic party,  and now our country. Get used to it!

PS. I am so tired of the retards (see below) that bring everything back to minimum wage and corporate greed…regardless of the topic. You fools don’t have a clue how businesses work. But don’t worry, obummer’s regulations, taxes, and especially obummercare will eventually kill your villains like walmart, mcdonalds, etc…and those poor victims won’t even have a minimum wage to look forward to. Idiots!

An adult, no matter his upbringing is responsible for his/her actions. Yes…a good upbringing helps but not even that insures your child will become a responsible, decent human being. There are many irresponsible adults who were raised by wonderful parents who taught them properly and provided a good example just as there are many children who grow into very responsible, caring adults even though they were raised in a terrible environment with no good examples. Bottom line: When you’re an adult YOU are responsible for your actions and, if you have children, you are responsible to care for them!

It is not mean to be a liveable wage.  It is meant to see you through college or tech school, where you gain actual useful skills in the workplace that are deserving of a higher wage.

 Your grammar and spelling skills are atrocious.  Perhaps you should devote more time improving these skills and then you might be able to find a better paying job.

They have a hard life ahead full of disappointments.

Exactly what I was getting at!

I am a parent of two
married boys with children. I disagree with the way this letter was written. In
fact, I would have never written this letter. Simply, they are adults and they
make their own decisions. If they want MY advice, they will ask for it otherwise
it is NONE of my business.  I will give advice without being asked if their health is going to be adversely
affected.

My wife and I did our best
job at parenting when our two boys were under our supervision. Once they became
adults, they are responsible for themselves. I love them and I tell them so,
but, that doesn’t give me carte blanche to interfere in their lives. I would
resent my own parents if they stuck their noses into my family affairs. My
father did one time and I did not talk to him for a year and half. Enough
said!

I am a parent of two
married boys with children. I disagree with the way this letter was written. In
fact, I would have never written this letter. Simply, they are adults and they
make their own decisions. If they want MY advice, they will ask for it otherwise
it is NONE of my business.  I will give advice without being asked if their health is going to be adversely
affected.

My wife and I did our best
job at parenting when our two boys were under our supervision. Once they became
adults, they are responsible for themselves. I love them and I tell them so,
but, that doesn’t give me carte blanche to interfere in their lives. I would
resent my own parents if they stuck their noses into my family affairs. My
father did one time and I did not talk to him for a year and half. Enough
said!

Oh yeah where there are not alot of jobs out there right now. Why is ok for these companies to treat people how ever they want. What funny is that if this was the 50s & 60′s wich was are best economic time people where envorage to fight for fair pay not it’sjust  take what you get. While you all bow down to these large coperations.

The company is not a charity. It has no obligation to pay a “liveable wage”. If you do not like it go find some thing else to do. Your parents lived with much less than you do today. They did not have TV’s and cell phones and would do without a car if they had to. You can find a job that pays more. You may have to move or go live out of your car like I did when I was young working on a drilling rig. Quit whingeing  as the article says and get your butt to work.

In 1959, Judge Philip B. Gilliam of Denver,
Colorado, published a letter in the Pierce County Tribune in North Dakota.  Open Letter to Teen-ager

Always we hear the plaintive cry of the
teen-ager. What can we do?…Were can we go?
The answer is GO HOME!
Hang the storm windows, paint the woodwork. Rake the leaves, mow the lawn,
shovel the walk. Wash the car, learn to cook, scrub some floors. Repair the
sink, build a boat, get a job.
Help the minister, priest, or rabbi, the Red Cross, the Salvation Army. Visit
the sick, assist the poor, study your lessons. And then when you are through -
and not too tired – read a book.
Your parents do not owe you entertainment. Your city or village does not owe
you recreational facilities.
The world does not owe you a living…You owe the world something.
You owe it your time and your energy and your talents so that no one will be at
war or in poverty or sick or lonely again.
Grow up; quit being a crybaby. Get out of your dream world and develop a
backbone, not a wishbone, and start acting like a man or a lady.
You’re supposed to be mature enough to accept some of the responsibility your
parents have carried for years.
They have nursed, protected, helped, appealed, begged, excused, tolerated and
denied themselves needed comforts so that you could have every benefit. This
they have done gladly, for you are their dearest treasure.
But now, you have no right to expect them to bow to every whim and fancy just
because selfish ego instead of common sense dominates your personality,
thinking and request.
In Heaven’s name, grow up and go home!

You have to learn a lot from reality, and I had to hunt to feed my kids back then – prices were proportionately as high then as they are now. My kids learned to like rabbit and the occasional venison.

Without companies there are no jobs. What part of that do you not get?

Simple enough. Get educated. There was a time in my life when I worked three jobs: one full time and two part time. NONE of the jobs were a destination. Each was merely a part of the journey. After a while, I dropped the wholly inadequate full time job to attend school. I got educated. I talked with adults. I networked. Oh, yeah, in the meantime I also bathed and groomed. (Funny I should have to mention that.) I determined an industry and chose a path to working in it. I offered myself at no cost to the employer, but, funny thing, no employer ever took me up on that offer. Instead they gave me a job. Up the ladder, one rung at a time. I climbed, paused, rested, slipped, climbed again. I made progress. I bought a home and a car. Not the nicest of either, but a house and a car nonetheless. I Married (didn’t shack with, but married) a wonderful woman. To cut to the proverbial chase: I made it. Who cannot do the same?

Judgement and punishment aren’t coming. Hello…they are here!  You don’t  consider an obummer 2nd term, $20,000,000,000,000 in debt, socialism, reduction of liberties, etc., punishment? We went from a God fearing nation that was the largest lender in the world, to a country overun with abject immorality that has kicked God out, and the largest debt in the world…..in my lifetime, and I’m not even that old! 

What if you get sick how can they afford to get health care. Cause when you don’t have money you really can’t budget that in. At look at the price of things are now. we really need to start caring bout people isn’t that what Jesus taught us. But you guy are to in love with these big coperations to see that it’s amazing you guy call for smaller govenmentbut want big buissness to rule the live of the american people.

Oh i forgot that jobs just grow on trees.

Nobody was meant to LIVE off of minimum wage.  It is meant to be a stepping stone to something better.  But if someone doesn’t take that step BEFORE they have kids and BEFORE they are out on their own, then they are going to find it much harder to make it on that minimum wage job.  It can still be done, but no it isn’t easy.

So my advice to kids today is keep it in your pants, keep your pants ON, go get an education that is useful, and get a GOOD job.  THEN, get MARRIED (yet another committment that is foreign to today’s kids) before having children so that you provide a stable home for children when they enter the world.

6t5rGood for him.  It needs to be said to an awful lot of this young adult generation.  Just look at what has taken place over these past years.  So many loving Grandparents have had to take over the upbringing of their grandchildren and why?  Because their parents are selfish, lazy adults who act like idiots using drugs, alcohol to soothe their selfish hearts.  Responsibility has taken a flying leap out the window and Obama flew in.  It’s freebie time so  they  think; well wake up kiddies there are no free lunches so don’t fool yourself and think there is.  The pied piper will be paid.  Actually he’s getting richer by each year that passes and spends like a drunken sailor…….my money, not yoursl  Perhaps us oldsters should occupy for a change and see how you like paying for it.. 

Every kid should have Judge Judy for a mom, and this guy for a dad. The world would be a better place.

But if we allow these companies to take avantage of people like this we will still pay for because they are going to need goverment assistance you can’t support any one on that pay. I worked in a Hospital for many year s and the healthcare for the poor is horrible . Just  patch them up and send them on there way is not giving them good healthcare.

So what about the parents so just let the parents die. Not belly aching just faceing facts. Everybody has typos sorry if it offends you. But why are you taking personal attacks at me have I said anything personal to you lets try a stay resepctful.

 
Stop
whining Cory. Can you not see this letter was written to you
personally too? You are whining and making excuses, and guess what?
The world is passing you by while you are waiting for someone else to
“You really need to start researching what these companies are
doing to people”.

And
who is going to do that for you Cory while you sit around waiting for
the answer? I can give you the answer right now and my research is a
lifetime at the university of real life; these companies are giving
you a chance to step on the ladder of life. Get over yourself and get
your hands dirty.

Uhh, is it Dads fault? This isn’t about low wages this is about low productive output. They might decide to stop having babies for one.

when i started working for minimum wage at the ripe old age of 16 i was making 3.50 per hour by the time I was 18 and had to support my self I was making 4.50 people like you said it was not enough to survive on wow I am 47 now I survived I just worked hard worked extra hours moved [foward] now I own my own company still work hard and more hours in a week than a lot of people work in a month made about 700000 last year payed 328000 in taxes now they want more While people making 45000 get a refund, food stamps, wellfair I cant even wright off the 40000 I paid for each of my children to go to school Why becouse I make to much money mabe I should quit working and be like the rest of the lazy asses in the world NOT I choose to survive work my ass off and be better than the rest sorry 

Don’t work there.

WOW, you just lump everybody in one group how judgemental of you. Why not go speak to them and really find out what there situation is before you make a statement like that. Everybody has a diffrent story and for you to generalize people like that is not right.

Wells said good lady.

 I would suggest they get some education so they can get better jobs.  How in the heck do you think people making good money get where they are at?  Training, hard work ….try it you might like it. Dropping out of school gets you no where.  I know someone who went to Community College, worked part time to pay for it and took the 2 year course in 3 to do it.  Went to work in the studied career and made very good money bought her own house, car and saved some.  It can be done but not if you’re lazy and sit back and complain about getting nowhere.  These unions work hard at making you low waged folks think it’s big business oppressing you when you should look in the mirror and and really see who the oppressor is.

Again not everyones story is the same just because you could work three jobs. What about the people who didn’t go to college or dropped out of school who had to take care of a parent because the parent got sick and they didn’t have they money to pay for someone to take care of them. remebre everybody has a diffrent story just because that how things worked for you does not mean that everybody can take that path. We all have diffrent situations.

 WOW You are part of the problem and you refuse to see it! 

Dear Glenn
 
obama is not president yet. Not until the electoral college votes in mid Dec. They need 2/3 of the Senate to vote or The House picks the president. All we need is 17 states to abstain. We have to get the word out fast. Tell people to hound their state legislatures and governors, attorneys, They should start emailing, faxing, phoning. The Constitution gives the states that right . We should at least try while we still have a Constitution. I’m sorry about the spelling . It goes to pot when I get worked up.

Cory, if I get sick, then my husband can handle the bills, because we got MARRIED before we had kids, though not before I was pregnant.  We decided that coming child deserved a stable home with BOTH parents, and we got MARRIED.  And THEN we made a budget where if one person got sick, the other could handle things, or most of them.  And you know what?  I was on unemployment for a YEAR, and we made it just fine.

As for health insurance, there are free state health insurance programs for kids in PA.  And another poster said they have them in every state.  So, your argument is a straw man.

This isn’t about a corporation’s responsibility to the individual.  It’s about an individual’s responsibility to himself and his family.

Price where the same then as they are now? lol ok you just think that then.

You know, I didn’t realize until far too late in life that my folks, and my grandparents were on to something with saying “NO” to pre-marital sex.  It is a mistake that I made.  It is a lesson I try to pound into the heads of my kids and their friends.  It is far too easy to mistake love when you are having sex.  You make me feel good in bed does NOT translate to ‘you make me feel good every minute of every day that you are by my side’.   The former lasts maybe an hour, tops, the latter, when done right, lasts a lifetime.  And oh by the way, that other hour or so is that much better once you realize you are spending that time with your true life partner.

aggreed my daughters boy f 26 no job no career and feels sorry for himself

Minimum wage was never meant to be a living wage, especially if you have kids – (btw,if you can’t feed  em, don’t breed em). You can’t expect to start out at $80K  a year without education or special skills. Instead of complaining about people who make more than you, try putting down the WII or TV remote,getting off your butt, going to school and developing some skills that will get you a job paying a “living wage.” I’ll bet you have a cell phone, color TV, and a newer car and live in a nice apartment. You have to make some sacrifices if you want to get ahead. Don’t expect the taxpayers to support  you. I started at 1.25/hr and  with  a lot of hard work and disappointment along the way, ended up with a six figure income. I never resented those making a lot more than I did, but was grateful that someone made enough to afford to hire me.

So jobs grow on trees now. these companies are taking advatages of employees because they know how hard it is to get a job. wow people bust there butts get paid nothingand should just suck it up. Wow it’s amazing how you guy hate govement but love it when big buissness runs america.

The letter wasn’t about wal-mart it was about taking responsibility for you’re own actions. 

This commentary, read by “Stu” through, his laughter, hurts me in my heart.  I don’t know what the circumstances are with these three children. I do know that this sort of bashing, by a parent, inflicts horrendous damage to his children.  I have listened to, and watched the Glenn Beck show since the beginning. I subscribe to “The Blaze.” As a middle/high school teacher for thirty five years, and as a parent of three grown daughters, I have learned that encouragement and confidence and assistance are the ways to help children in an often hostile world.  I have learned that success is often the result of grace, unearned, rather than accomplishment.  I have seen struggling young people beaten down, while others, seemingly blessed, skated through life. I have learned, and I know without doubt, that helping a young person believe that he/she “has got what it takes” is the most important gift that a parent can give.  If well taught, it is all the child requires.  Success is how a life is spent, not  how many ribbons are collected.  Further reading about the “hero,” Sam Adams…and Shay’s Rebellion, might also encourage humility and gratitude.

What about people who could not go to college for alot of reasons.

This Father must have written that letter for my 43-year-old daughter who threw away her husband and 2 children because she was “over the black thing”.    God may forgive her, because I cannot.

Wow your just completely heartless.

Let me first say, I don’t have kids.  But I’ve seen so many people who’s parents have totally screwed them up.  So for this man and his wife not have one decent kid turn out from four…seems to me the blame lies not so much with the kids as with the parents.  Even with bad luck, good parents should have a least a 1 in 4 chance of a decent, self-supporting kid.  Just saying.

I have my master degree and i have my own buissness. I don’t resent them but when they start taking advantage of people just for profit i have a problem with that. Sorry but that is what Jesus taught

get two jobs I have, my dad did when I was growing up. Life is hard Corey, sorry, thats just the way it is. Be a man, young man.

Price to wage ratio – I know because I was there. You think you can out do that? Guess again kid.

Work two full time jobs and learn to farm. Let you children raise chickens and learn how to cook. Work or don’t eat. I think that just about says it.

What about the poeple who got married and then got divorce. You can’t say well my story is that and everybody else story should be the same way. everybody has a diffrent story and had to go throught diffrent thing. So before you say they should just do what i did you have to hear there story first. So if a company decides to pay a person $1.00 an hour that person should just suck it up. Well then you can’t get mad when they take assistance there working but they can only take waht the company will give and should never fight to be treated fairly.

The problem with this counrty is that we have stopped careing about people.

Dear ace,  I would like to know who ended the year and a half of your stupidity for being unable to hear a truth?

Everybody say just get an education. Ok where are they going to get the money for education. if there working full time and going home a taking care of kids when are they suppose to go to class. It’s easy for us to say just get an education without knowing the person’s situation.

So jobs grow on tree now?

society is making it harder and harder to turn out good kids its an entitlement thind

Well not really. The productivity of the american work has gone up in a large part. But pay to those works have flat lines. That me that companies are get more from there employees with out giving the any compesation for the success of that company.

Just what do you mean when you espouse a fair wage?  Does that mean you must have the wherewithall to buy 50″ flat screen tv’s?  Does that mean you wear $500 a pair jeans? Putting groceries in a bag or boxes on a shelf does not provide that kind of wage nor should it.  tunja has it correct, these are first step jobs where you PROVE your willingness to work hard, be on time, and do what you are told when you are told to do it.  When you’ve mastered those skills–which most paperboys have done by the age of ten–you have proven yourself able to be able to be trusted with more responsibility.  Get one thing straight, NO ONE owes you anything, you have to earn everything.  Secondly, the poorest of the poor in this country are given food, shelter, and medical treatment; they live at a higher rate of comfort that 85% of all the people of the world.  If you want more then get out and earn it.  The Constitution provides you with life, liberty, and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.  You’ve got life and liberty but your happiness or unhappiness is of your own making.  Stop whining and get out and work for what you want, you are in the only country that guarantees you the right to do that–at least for the nonce.

This is to Corey above.  I don’t need to go speak to anyone about their individual circumstances. Wanna know why?  Because it doesn’t matter.  It does not matter what your circumstances are.  It only matters what you DO about them.

I’m not generalizing about anyone or anything.  I’m bottom lining this for you.  There is a big difference.  If you don’t see the difference, then it is apparent that you need some education, and some maturity. 

I’d suggest the military if you want a really good start.  They provide a job, housing, and benefits.  And you can retire at age 37 with government retirement and benefits.  What is wrong with that plan?

WOW, THIS MAN SAID IT MUCH BETTER THAN I EVER COULD. THE KEY IS THESE KIDS NEED TO MASTER THE ART OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 

Sorry to tell yo u. I have my Masters degee and have my own buissnes i take from no one but when i see people getting tooken advantage of I get pissed of about it.As a christian i was taught to care about people not companies.

What the hell is wrong with you people?!! It is unbelievable to me, how you people have taken the subject of a letter written by some Whining ex-Nuc Sub Capt.from Britian, who is clearly mostly complaining about the fact that his kids marriages have all failed,and as a result his grandchildren are not being brought up in the traditional type of homes (I.E – Mother / Father / Married and together raising them) that he and his wife not only expected, but utterly demanded that they have a say in, and were ultimately told by all to butt out ; and you’ve all somehow managed to twist this nto some asinine debate about jobs and how much / little / money you make, or in some cases, made 40-50 years ago, not to mention the others of you who are so far off the topic you couldn’t find your way back with a map, let alone have a clue where you started from! THIS is what is wrong with the world today! A bunch of clueless people running off at the mouth( again ) who should have never opened them to begin with! By the way Stu, the only thing that is incredible about that letter, is the fact that someone would be stupid enough to air out their dirty laundry for all to see! I’d bet the ranch that you have a subscription to the National EnQuirer!!

Well that’s what happens when you let the government schools raise your children and don’t take the family to Church……The Church gives a foundation on which to build a life without it we see multi-marriage/divorce…and the government schools don’t teach anyone to excel but rather keep all to the lowest denominator The father may be right but I wonder why he waited so long to say something…he is responsible for bringing these children into the world did he give them a moral compass? did he give them any instruction? or did he leave it up to the schools?

Thats a very short sided thing to say and diffrent cirucmstances change the direction of live alot of time out of that persons control. Sorry no military i don’t believe in killing people.

No just enough for them to support there families. Why is at these coperation can make record profits but there employees the people who bust there butts to make that profit for the company never get to share in the rewards of there hard work.

What Jesus taught His disciples to do was to make their own way as they acted as missionaries and never depend on anyone to feed them.  Paul was a tent maker after all.  They were to make their own living in addition to preachingn the gospel.  That should serve as an example to the rest of us.

God also taught many other things that Jesus affirmed.  One of those things is to wait until marriage before having sex.  But nobody wants to do that these days, and then there are kids who suffer because their parents can’t afford them.  If this generation wasn’t having indiscriminate sex and having babies that they can’t feed, they WOULD be able to live on minimum wage AND go back to school!

how can a sigle parent  do that or a person taking care of a sick spouse, family member or kids.

how can a sigle parent  do that or a person taking care of a sick spouse, family member or kids.

You get a second job.  Believe me, there are plenty of people doing that because they have to.  I think they deserve any and all assistance they can possibly get.  The ones I have no sympathy for are the ones who have made a career of just sitting back waiting for any and all freebies to drop into their lazy laps.  There are plenty like them and I believe they all voted for Obama to keep their lifestyle continuing. You seem to have a problem with company’s making record profits.  Did it occur to you that they would not be able to offer even those $8.90 per hour jobs if they did not make a profit?  By the way, I have done the research and have also worked all my life so get off your bully pulpit, Bub.

You get a second job.  Believe me, there are plenty of people doing that because they have to.  I think they deserve any and all assistance they can possibly get.  The ones I have no sympathy for are the ones who have made a career of just sitting back waiting for any and all freebies to drop into their lazy laps.  There are plenty like them and I believe they all voted for Obama to keep their lifestyle continuing. You seem to have a problem with company’s making record profits.  Did it occur to you that they would not be able to offer even those $8.90 per hour jobs if they did not make a profit?  By the way, I have done the research and have also worked all my life so get off your bully pulpit, Bub.

Well if you look at the price a wage ration not to then there is a big diffrent. Do you research.

Well if you look at the price a wage ration not to then there is a big diffrent. Do you research.

Well if you look at the price a wage ration not to then there is a big diffrent. Do you research.

 You’re right, Corey. Everyone’s story is different. There are many stories of success coming from people of all backgrounds, education and even against all odds. They all had something in common and that’s perseverance. They didn’t make excuses, they just worked at it. Think about that Nike tagline – Just Do It.

This is America and everyone makes their own future. It is not predetermined as it is in many other countries. Poor people in America are rich compared to poor people in other countries. Work is work, plain and simple. Companies aren’t inherently trying to rip you off. Hard work, respect and honor are rewarded with higher pay, more responsibility and more respect and honor. You don’t receive it just because you think it’s owed to you.

America has seemingly lost it’s way – let’s hope it is temporary. Accountability must make a comeback or we’re doomed. Parents are accountable to make sure their children understand why an education is important. Workers are accountable in completing a job well done before getting paid. My mother always said “people will rise to the level of their incompetence”.

I’m tired of excuses. Life is hard work. If you expect people to take care of you then you will be miserable. If you expect to work hard then the sky’s the limit. Making your own way will be the most rewarding no matter what dollar amount is attached.

 You’re right, Corey. Everyone’s story is different. There are many stories of success coming from people of all backgrounds, education and even against all odds. They all had something in common and that’s perseverance. They didn’t make excuses, they just worked at it. Think about that Nike tagline – Just Do It.

This is America and everyone makes their own future. It is not predetermined as it is in many other countries. Poor people in America are rich compared to poor people in other countries. Work is work, plain and simple. Companies aren’t inherently trying to rip you off. Hard work, respect and honor are rewarded with higher pay, more responsibility and more respect and honor. You don’t receive it just because you think it’s owed to you.

America has seemingly lost it’s way – let’s hope it is temporary. Accountability must make a comeback or we’re doomed. Parents are accountable to make sure their children understand why an education is important. Workers are accountable in completing a job well done before getting paid. My mother always said “people will rise to the level of their incompetence”.

I’m tired of excuses. Life is hard work. If you expect people to take care of you then you will be miserable. If you expect to work hard then the sky’s the limit. Making your own way will be the most rewarding no matter what dollar amount is attached.

 You’re right, Corey. Everyone’s story is different. There are many stories of success coming from people of all backgrounds, education and even against all odds. They all had something in common and that’s perseverance. They didn’t make excuses, they just worked at it. Think about that Nike tagline – Just Do It.

This is America and everyone makes their own future. It is not predetermined as it is in many other countries. Poor people in America are rich compared to poor people in other countries. Work is work, plain and simple. Companies aren’t inherently trying to rip you off. Hard work, respect and honor are rewarded with higher pay, more responsibility and more respect and honor. You don’t receive it just because you think it’s owed to you.

America has seemingly lost it’s way – let’s hope it is temporary. Accountability must make a comeback or we’re doomed. Parents are accountable to make sure their children understand why an education is important. Workers are accountable in completing a job well done before getting paid. My mother always said “people will rise to the level of their incompetence”.

I’m tired of excuses. Life is hard work. If you expect people to take care of you then you will be miserable. If you expect to work hard then the sky’s the limit. Making your own way will be the most rewarding no matter what dollar amount is attached.

I’m in graduate school right now.  There are online schools, there are federal student loans that do not have to be paid back until the schooling is completed, and 6 months have passed.  So don’t tell me that there isn’t a single soul that can’t find some way to go back to school AND get the money to do it.

I’m in graduate school right now.  There are online schools, there are federal student loans that do not have to be paid back until the schooling is completed, and 6 months have passed.  So don’t tell me that there isn’t a single soul that can’t find some way to go back to school AND get the money to do it.

I’m in graduate school right now.  There are online schools, there are federal student loans that do not have to be paid back until the schooling is completed, and 6 months have passed.  So don’t tell me that there isn’t a single soul that can’t find some way to go back to school AND get the money to do it.

Get  two jobs to take care of yourselfs  and the family that you brought into the world. Jesus said the poor will always be with you. I worked two jobs as a widow with two small children in the 70′s you can do the  same. Today I own my own home and have two children who I put through college with loans I paid for.
How about that. That’ called satisfaction and self esteem. NO talking points here

Get  two jobs to take care of yourselfs  and the family that you brought into the world. Jesus said the poor will always be with you. I worked two jobs as a widow with two small children in the 70′s you can do the  same. Today I own my own home and have two children who I put through college with loans I paid for.
How about that. That’ called satisfaction and self esteem. NO talking points here

I have my own company and my masters. You can’t just tell people that not everybody can work two job what if they have kids, or a sick family memeber.

Corey
it sounds like to me that you are claiming yourself as a VICTIM. The widow with two children did it

Corey
it sounds like to me that you are claiming yourself as a VICTIM. The widow with two children did it

Ex seven rocker retiree

Good .for you Captain.

Ex seven rocker retiree

Good .for you Captain.

Ex seven rocker retiree

Good .for you Captain.

Again Corey, the BOTTOM LINE is, where there is a will there is a way.  Instead of whining about the idea that each person has an individual situation, look to the fact that every single one of those people can find SOME way to remedy that situation.  One need only think outside the box, be creative, and go to the public library.

Again Corey, the BOTTOM LINE is, where there is a will there is a way.  Instead of whining about the idea that each person has an individual situation, look to the fact that every single one of those people can find SOME way to remedy that situation.  One need only think outside the box, be creative, and go to the public library.

Listen i’m not talking about me i have my Masters and own my own company. Not everybody has the same situation so you can’t say i did so you should because there story is diffrent. And Jesus taught us to care about people no matter who they are.

Listen i’m not talking about me i have my Masters and own my own company. Not everybody has the same situation so you can’t say i did so you should because there story is diffrent. And Jesus taught us to care about people no matter who they are.

Listen i’m not talking about me i have my Masters and own my own company. Not everybody has the same situation so you can’t say i did so you should because there story is diffrent. And Jesus taught us to care about people no matter who they are.

And where are they going to get a computer they can’t afford and internet service.

And where are they going to get a computer they can’t afford and internet service.

My, my, are you one of his kids?  I’ll be you don’t have kids or you’d understand the letter a bit better.

There are also people who have persavered to work at Mcdonalds again we don’t know how tough some one life is till you speak to the you can’t say that group did it so this group should. You have to look at eacjh situation seperatly.

It is obvious that you lack critical reading skills.  One can understand why the father has had it RESCUING his offspring and their progeny.  If I’m paying your bills you had better damn well listen to my suggestions or the pursestrings will knot tight.  The man is not only bothered by having to bail out ungrateful offspring, he is also worried about the disruption and discord his grandchildren are having to undergo. Bed hopping is one thing when unencumbered with children it is quite another when one has children.  Nowhere did I see the issue of same sex alliances even inferred to in the missive.  Is that a part of the lens through which you view the world?  Let not that impact the message of another.  It’s about time the present breeding generation accept the responsibility for their flights of fancy.  My only consolation is that I believe many of said group do, just not the three raised by the captain and his wife.

Not everybody can, Some people have kids and sick family memebers they have to care for.

It’s easy to say that when you haven’t had to walk in there shoes.

 Everyone that is responding to your rants cares about you. If you want to help other people than do it. We care enough not to give heroin to an addict. You get paid what you efforts are worth. You obviously have excess time on your hands. How are your neighbors doing? Learn to network and stop whining. You have to change cause the world won’t.

Caring about people is not the same as enabling them.  And too many people have an entitlement mentality now.  THAT is why we don’t agree with you and why we do agree with the writer of the letter above.

This whole darn generation of kids coming up now is a dissapointment because they think they are entitled to instant gratification, and not just the beginning of a life of their own, but they want the whole echilada. They t hink they are entitlted to have everything their parents have that their parents worked 25 years for.  They don’t see that they have to start at the bottom and work their way up.  Heck, even the college grads think they are entitled to an 80K salary with only a bachelor’s degree.  There are some professions that do pay that for a BS but most do not.

We are all aware that there are people going through extrememly rough times and that they are barely making it and nearly drowning on their current salaries.  But that doesn’t mean they have to go out that way.  They CAN go back to school. As I said above or somewhere, there are federal loans available and online schools with very flexible schedules. 

Nope i have my Masters and my own buissness life is great for me. But as a chistian i care about people and when i see companies taking advantage of people it pisses me off.

Corey you make excuses for every possible scenario we give you.  You don’t want answers, you just want to whine.  I’m done. I will finish reading the comments, and then I’m done.  I have some actual studying to do and that is far more important to my life than your mealy mouthed excuses.

avtually poeple are not getting paid what there efforts are worth, The productivty of the american has skyrocketed but the pay of the american work has flatline. just go look up the numbers. these company are making record profits but there not sharing that success with the people who bust there butts to make that profit for the company.

Although much of the letter is true it really would do nothing to change the culture of the planet.  The letter could be posted around the world many times and read by multi millions and it would be insignificant.  People no longer know or care about living fruitfu productive lives and I would venture to say Mum and Dad had a lot to do with it.

cool with me but it’s not whinning it’s the truth go talk to the works. research these companies you don’t have to listen to me go look at the numbers and talk to the works. Easy to say things like that we you don’thave to put a face on it.

 Whoa, whoa is me. I think Corey just wants company. This is getting sickening. Why mom, why mom, why, why, why.Goodby.

ANY country that kills 50,000,000 of its own children is destined for doom…

But if there busting there butts to make profit for that company should they see some of that success since there the ones breaking there back to make.When was that last time the CEO at Mcdonalds made your big Mac for yo.

very imaturehave i said anything personal to you why can’t you have a discussin with respect.,But you don’t have to listen to me you can just look at the numbers.

If the brain controls the body, who is infecting the brains of our children? Could it be the school system? When my child’s test question is, “How did cowboys settle their differences?”; and the answer is, “By a democratic system.” , can’t you see the handwriting on the wall? 12 or 13 years, day after day of innuendos, teachers pushing their ignorant consciences on our children, textbooks telling your children what they want them to hear, and above all else the United Nations dictating how history is to be presented to your children. Instead of the facts, we get politically correct Outcome-based education without values or principles. We as parents can share the responsibility for what our children have been taught by delegating that responsibility to others. Sorry to say, we are reaping what we have sown.

In the letter, it sounds to me like the kids were hounding their mother with their tales of woe, breaking her heart, and the father wrote the letter to put a stop to it.

The people who are making minimum wage are most likely receiving government assistane of various types.  Don’t kid yourself that the population of working poor are starving.  A family of 4 – just in social welfare benefits – are collecting about $56000/yr.  Government handouts are not taxed and the earned wage is probably so low that after deductions they are not paying earned income taxes either.  Save you anger for something constructive.  P.S.  there are about 120 welfare programs available to the poor.

Corey – why are you so hung up on “knowing their story”? It doesn’t matter what everyone’s story is. Every individual is responsible for their own actions and consequences of their decisions. If they find themselves in a bad situation, this is a free country and they can make a change. It may not be easy, but it can be done.

The world doesn’t care about excuses. The world does not stop for your sad day. It’s objective and just keeps on going without you. Life is hard. Why are you making it your responsibility to whine about how difficult a stranger’s life might be. You don’t know them either. It’s a pointless argument you make.

Just like no one here likely cares if you have a master’s degree and your own business. Good for you, but it’s not relevant to the discussion. If you think it elevates you in others’ eyes, you’re wrong. The world is objective, it doesn’t care.

Everyone is accountable whether they like it or not. Just because you don’t like the consequences or think it’s mean-spirited, doesn’t make you the bigger person, just more idealistic and less realistic.

Cory
  If a burger flipper at McDonalds is a career choice, you go home after work and make comments like yours.  If it’s not, you take a change of clothes with you and check out other employers after you get off work.  You do whatever you have to do to work your way up the experience and pay scale ladders.  You have to go out and get it, it won’t come to you.

Corey, if you have a master’s degree you may have imbibed at the fount of liberal education too deeply.  Your syntax and diction, not to mention your grammatical errors may indicate why there are people with degrees who aren’t “making it”.  Degrees are useless unless they interface with reason, self-sufficiency, and common sense.  Victims are victims by their own self-choosing.  If a job does not recompense a person as he feels is his right, then he should find another one, but never should he quit the first until the second is assured.  There is no slavery in the US–although it does exist elsewhere–so go to another job if you feel you are mistreated, However, the employee who is rewarded with advancement is usually not the clock watcher or the one who daily gives a lackluster performance.  It is the worker who goes the extra mile, who is diligent, and who wants to improve himself.  Somehow, having your own business or not, you fail to impress me with a sense that you would qualify as the latter worker.

I wouldn’t call an average margin of 3.5% (Wal-Mart) to be “record profits.”  Perhaps you should do some research yourself before you inflate and exaggerate.  And, as tunja points out below, the low-wage positions at Wal-Mart are entry positions.  You are also GUARANTEED a raise of some amount at each annual review.  Your performance determines how much that raise is, but it’s at least 25 cents an hour, which is not bad.  If your performance exceeds expectations, it’s a bigger raise and a greater chance at promotion.  If an employee at Wal-Mart doesn’t like that, then they can attempt to find employment elsewhere.  Also, at good ol’ Wally World, there is no union membership eating away at employees’ take home pay to go into the pockets of scum like Richard Trumka.

To Corey:  It’s very difficult to believe that you have a Master’s degree when your grammar is on par with a 3rd grader.

Cory

Are you foolish enough to think those of us who made something of ourselves did not start at the bottom?

Here is the process.
You start at the bottom for that $8.90 and hour.
You want better then strive to get ahead.

I can’t because? …  is the excuse of mediocrity which in reality MEANS I DON’T WANT TO.

Fill in the because blank and it will be a lie … there is always a way.
Ask Glenn Beck or anyone who started with just an idea.

Do you think for a moment if these people were actually starving they would not find a way?

Giving long term aid develops lazy takers who have no incentive to rise above their taking status.

Here is a cure for welfare.
Make them punch and 8 to 5 time clock picking up trash along the freeway. Or put them in the slums cleaning things up. Put them on building details for the truly deserving of help.

1. you would see mass exodus of those who are not willing to work off the system.
2. Some would soon realize taco bell was more attractive than picking up butts beside the road.
3. Fending for yourself and 10 kids without assistance is not a good idea.
4. Not using a condom with a gonnabe dead beat dad does not make a smart woman it makes a STUPID ho.

Those are simply a few things that would set this society back on a right track.

What makes YOU CORY think anyone owe YOU OR ANYONE else something you are not willing to work for yourself?

So what do the people who work for places like wal-mart & Mcdonalds who are getting paid about $8.90 per  hour while these company make record profits.… http://youtube.qr.net/jOyC/watch?v=dCAc0R3hNDo

My beautiful granddaughter has high functioning autism, multiple learning disabilities and a seizure disorder(we chose not to apply for SS disability). She had tried since high school to get a job in our small town but the disabled need not apply.Walmart opened in our town 4 months ago. They hired my granddaughter for a full time job, she is now earning $10 an hour and is thrilled to be a contributing member of society. She finally feels “normal” after riding on the much maligned short bus for so long. I see a young employee in a wheel chair being dropped off when I pick up my granddaughter. Neither of these young ladies were able to find employment until Walmart came to town. The manager of the store, a 32 year old black man, started with Walmart as a stocker at the age of 19.Of the 1.3 million Walmart employees only about 50 chose to strike on Black Friday, the rest of the protesters were union members bussed in to try to make a big showing. Maybe the Walmart workers have seen the results on unionization, empty steel mills, GM bailout, etc and have decided they are better off not paying union dues. Every time I see my granddaughter’s happiness I thank God for Walmart.

Children learn life skills from their parents and other adults.  I wonder just how much of this father’s angst should be more inward directed.

Like the Captain said; Get off your lazy -ss, take charge and responsibility for your actions, and live your life NOT have somebody live your life for you. The key has ALWAYS been education. The more you know, the more you can do.

Like the Captain said; Get off your lazy -ss, take charge and responsibility for your actions, and live your life NOT have somebody live your life for you. The key has ALWAYS been education. The more you know, the more you can do.

Like the Captain said; Get off your lazy -ss, take charge and responsibility for your actions, and live your life NOT have somebody live your life for you. The key has ALWAYS been education. The more you know, the more you can do.

No one held a gun to their heads and made them work for $9/hr.

You want more than $9 an hour?  BE WORTH IT!

Read the letter again and attempt to understand it (this may be beyond your capability).  If you choose to work for $9 an hour, you don’t get to whine about it.

Why is it that libtards want to blame the employers for making available jobs to those content to scuff and shuffle their way through life – not that there is anything wrong with working for $9 – many fine people choose this work, do it well and find it satisfying.

Were it not for the Walmarts and McDonalds there would be a hellova lot of folks with NO job.  Granted, in today’s economic climate (thanks to our do-nothing, thumb-sucking, pork-shoveling Congress) many folks are stuck at $9 the hour — which is $9 an hour MORE than being unemployed.

The dummies always forget that minimum wage is not – was never – meant to be – a Living Wage – it was meant to be an entry wage from which one graduates – with effort and diligence.

Do try and understand Reality.

No one held a gun to their heads and made them work for $9/hr.

You want more than $9 an hour?  BE WORTH IT!

Read the letter again and attempt to understand it (this may be beyond your capability).  If you choose to work for $9 an hour, you don’t get to whine about it.

Why is it that libtards want to blame the employers for making available jobs to those content to scuff and shuffle their way through life – not that there is anything wrong with working for $9 – many fine people choose this work, do it well and find it satisfying.

Were it not for the Walmarts and McDonalds there would be a hellova lot of folks with NO job.  Granted, in today’s economic climate (thanks to our do-nothing, thumb-sucking, pork-shoveling Congress) many folks are stuck at $9 the hour — which is $9 an hour MORE than being unemployed.

The dummies always forget that minimum wage is not – was never – meant to be – a Living Wage – it was meant to be an entry wage from which one graduates – with effort and diligence.

Do try and understand Reality.

No one held a gun to their heads and made them work for $9/hr.

You want more than $9 an hour?  BE WORTH IT!

Read the letter again and attempt to understand it (this may be beyond your capability).  If you choose to work for $9 an hour, you don’t get to whine about it.

Why is it that libtards want to blame the employers for making available jobs to those content to scuff and shuffle their way through life – not that there is anything wrong with working for $9 – many fine people choose this work, do it well and find it satisfying.

Were it not for the Walmarts and McDonalds there would be a hellova lot of folks with NO job.  Granted, in today’s economic climate (thanks to our do-nothing, thumb-sucking, pork-shoveling Congress) many folks are stuck at $9 the hour — which is $9 an hour MORE than being unemployed.

The dummies always forget that minimum wage is not – was never – meant to be – a Living Wage – it was meant to be an entry wage from which one graduates – with effort and diligence.

Do try and understand Reality.

It seems from the article, that these are adult children.  Their dad sees that they’ve done little, apart from having kids, that would be considered a success in life.  As a parent, you can give the tools, it is up to them to build.  I understand him completely.

It seems from the article, that these are adult children.  Their dad sees that they’ve done little, apart from having kids, that would be considered a success in life.  As a parent, you can give the tools, it is up to them to build.  I understand him completely.

It seems from the article, that these are adult children.  Their dad sees that they’ve done little, apart from having kids, that would be considered a success in life.  As a parent, you can give the tools, it is up to them to build.  I understand him completely.

Indeed, the best letter ever.

Indeed, the best letter ever.

Indeed, the best letter ever.

YOU have a Masters Degree and your own business, but can’t spell or phrase the most basic of words in the English language,Huh? Quick…find me a shovel and a real high set of boots! The cess pool is rising dramatically!!

YOU have a Masters Degree and your own business, but can’t spell or phrase the most basic of words in the English language,Huh? Quick…find me a shovel and a real high set of boots! The cess pool is rising dramatically!!

YOU have a Masters Degree and your own business, but can’t spell or phrase the most basic of words in the English language,Huh? Quick…find me a shovel and a real high set of boots! The cess pool is rising dramatically!!

Hey Cory… How much do you pay the employees in your company ? And please share with all, in which specific field do you hold  your Master’s degree? And from what institution ?

 Yes the courts would most likely award them all a living by taking everything the parents worked for and give it to the kids.  I thank God daily that I have two very responsible, respectful and hard working children who also have responsible, respectful and hard working grandchildren.

 Yes the courts would most likely award them all a living by taking everything the parents worked for and give it to the kids.  I thank God daily that I have two very responsible, respectful and hard working children who also have responsible, respectful and hard working grandchildren.

 @Grammasusan: You and your granddaughter completely ROCK! I hope she flies as high as her heart desires. What a sweetheart of a girl. Please tell her that I am proud of her.

 @Grammasusan: You and your granddaughter completely ROCK! I hope she flies as high as her heart desires. What a sweetheart of a girl. Please tell her that I am proud of her.

 @Grammasusan: You and your granddaughter completely ROCK! I hope she flies as high as her heart desires. What a sweetheart of a girl. Please tell her that I am proud of her.

“What is amazing is that coperations seem to be more important to you than people are. ”
With out them there will be NO JOBS , to you i guess that would be a better deal !  You don’t have to stay at any job ,move on !

“What is amazing is that coperations seem to be more important to you than people are. ”
With out them there will be NO JOBS , to you i guess that would be a better deal !  You don’t have to stay at any job ,move on !

“What is amazing is that coperations seem to be more important to you than people are. ”
With out them there will be NO JOBS , to you i guess that would be a better deal !  You don’t have to stay at any job ,move on !

“What is amazing is that coperations seem to be more important to you than people are. ”
With out them there will be NO JOBS , to you i guess that would be a better deal !  You don’t have to stay at any job ,move on !

“What is amazing is that coperations seem to be more important to you than people are. ”
With out them there will be NO JOBS , to you i guess that would be a better deal !  You don’t have to stay at any job ,move on !

Post a link to your research, please. I do not think that you did any. I think that you are simply regurgitating what you were told by others. I on the other hand run a small business and I know very well the issues involved.

Post a link to your research, please. I do not think that you did any. I think that you are simply regurgitating what you were told by others. I on the other hand run a small business and I know very well the issues involved.

America has all the punishment it needs with Obama as ‘president’.

It is not Americans that blow themselves up to destroy as many others as possible.  It is not Americans that build massive new cities … with no sewer system (see Dubai).  It is not the vast majority of hard-working, tax paying Americans that suck the vitals from our nation.  It is not the God-fearing citizens of America that argue that ‘anything goes’ as long as it ‘works’ in the current situation. 
It is one Anti-American American that has destroyed the economies of five countries and is now working to destroy ours (Soros).
It is not the American Small Businessman who sucks money from each and every one of us, wastes the greater share, and then gives the leavings to some lout too lazy even to read the help-wanted section.
But granted, it was a President (Nixon) who pulled the props out from the World Economy and it is our Congress that has done NO THING worthwhile for 50 years – where is zero-based budgeting, term-limits, equal laws for Congress and Citizens, updating of the morass of hair-brained laws, a responsible tax code… where even is a rudimentary budget?
The vision of the Founding Fathers – and of Ronald Reagan – is alive and well in millions of Americans – but it is severely challenged by the lazy, loutish, all-for-me greedy n’er-do-wells like those children referenced in the letter.
Unless patriots continue to work and eventually carry the day, America will sink beneath the waves of greed and avarice, just as did Rome and every other civilization that tried to buy its citizens with ticky-tack and public spectacles.

I read the letter with an open mind.  We, have 6 kids – half of them have achieved a lot, but the others haven’t.  But their lives are’t over, and I am trying to encourage them and not discourage them. 

My most important question is:   Did the dad treat these kids with such heavy and sarcadtic criticism during their entire lives?   If so, it’s no wonder why they haven’t achieved.  He killed any aspirations they ever had.  Someone who criticizes a child their entire life, makes them believe in the assumption that they are losers and it won’t be any use to try. 

I read the letter with an open mind.  We, have 6 kids – half of them have achieved a lot, but the others haven’t.  But their lives are’t over, and I am trying to encourage them and not discourage them. 

My most important question is:   Did the dad treat these kids with such heavy and sarcadtic criticism during their entire lives?   If so, it’s no wonder why they haven’t achieved.  He killed any aspirations they ever had.  Someone who criticizes a child their entire life, makes them believe in the assumption that they are losers and it won’t be any use to try. 

Well … that speaks volumes for your intelligence and work ethic.

Well … that speaks volumes for your intelligence and work ethic.

 
 
Read this before you get hooked into the Home Profit System that Jessica is suggesting..
http://reviewopedia.com/workathome/tops-home-profit-system-reviews-legit-or-scam/

From having read the entire letter, one blatant thing screams out at me… all I see from this guys is I, I, I,  ME, ME, ME,  now granted I dont know the full story from the other side of this story, but I see here a man who is more into his own legacy than actually helping his kids.  As a sub capt. i am sure that he was NOT in the mone for extended periods of time to give that “parental” nudge here and there that children need, and that it most likely as with most naval families fell upon the mother to raise the kids while dad was out playing sailor boy.  The reason I say this is that in the very first paragraph of his letter he states that he constantly hears about the achievements of friend’s kids andrelatives kid’s yet HE cant say the same… right there is the biggest red flag (HE) cant say the same for HIS kids.. and it goes on from there more I,I,I  ME<ME<ME.  now prhaps if he had not spent 6 months at sea in a tin can and more time at home during the formative years of kid's lives maybe they would have done a bit different in life. What this guy said about society is true and I agree with, BUT a parent has to b there to teach kids, about it, not at sea… a mother can only teach kids about society what she knows, same for a father.. and the TWO together can teach a child what they need to know about how to deal with society. Now this being said, I do not know the entire story.. I do not know the other half of it… but as I said the first paragraph has the big red flag in it that marks this as an old guy worried about HIS legacy.. and not the lives of his kids.

Jessica, Speading spam is one way to overcome envy and resentment but Obama’s GE and GM paid no taxes.

The letter is FANTASTIC. Completely illustrates the society that we are now encountering. 

At last a real father..tell it like it is..life is earnest and real and losers   are whiners…and still losers..great letter.

Oh so your solution is to not have jobs where people are “at sea” for 6 months. Makes perfect sense. We all know that the thousands of military families for 200 years with a parent “at sea” all raise worthless leaching children who crank out kids they don’t provide for, right? 

They should be glad to be gainfully employed…if they had more qualifications they would work elsewhere…at Walmart and other big box stores you are told up front what your duties will be and what they pay is.don’t like it…go elsewhere..I started at a big box store for $7hr and now make $17hr..if one works hard and uses one’s brain, there is a way to move up..lots of young people today want the job…they don’t want the work..the workman is worthy of his hire. If you want more, work.

my husband and I have actually had feelings like that toward our two sons …letting them suffer is hard to watch but it will produce maturity.  We try to protect the g-babies as much as possible … love is the greatest, enabeling is not.

What a greatl letter that a CARING father has written to his children who obviously want to roam through life for their own enjoyment, with not a thought for their old age or the lives of their own children.  You are right, Stu, in saying many people here in the USA need a kick in the pants with a similar “tough love” letter in order to try to get them to WAKE UP and take charge of their lives before it is totally too late.

 No one has to work for WalMart of McDonalds — if they do work there and don’t like it, they can quit.  When you accept a job for a certain wage — you know what you’re getting into.  Do you really expect to be paid $60,000 a year for flipping hamburgers or stocking shelves?? Generally, a person who works for WalMart or McDonalds for $9 per hour is getting extra money maybe for school or groceries for the week — whatever.  But more and more, it’s to buy diapers and baby food and BS for the ignorant person who is too fat and lazy to go to school and get a good education.  The person I just described — you can GUARANTEE – is also on Medicaid and welfare.  The corporate people who make the big bucks — too bad — they worked hard to make their company profitable and successful.  It’s called Capitalism!  A hamburger flipper is just not the same thing.  So get used to it.  I am sure, Jessica that you are the typical lowlife, tattooed fat slob who wants to see every business unionized.
I make a pretty good salary because I went to school — I don’t make anything close to the owners of the business nor would I expect to.  That’s just the way it is.

To the disappointed Dad:  You should have thought about how you were raising your children when they were little.  I’ll admit that there is a lot going on right now that we can’t control, but loving attention when they are young would grow kids you are proud of.  I know.  My husband and I raised two wonderful young men, now aged 59 and 61.  Not a day passes that we aren’t proud of them!

To the disappointed Dad:  You should have thought about how you were raising your children when they were little.  I’ll admit that there is a lot going on right now that we can’t control, but loving attention when they are young would grow kids you are proud of.  I know.  My husband and I raised two wonderful young men, now aged 59 and 61.  Not a day passes that we aren’t proud of them!

I TOTALLY AGREE STU!!!!!

HURRAY, HURRAY,HURRAY. Finally someone with a backbone. Finally someone who realize what a f…ked up bunch his and her kids are. Not your fault man. That is what the world of the entitlement produces. and it is not finished, by a looooong shot. It will only get worse and worse and worse. PERIOD. I applaud you for your straight shot. I can only pray the jerks realize where they stand. My kids are THE BEST KIDS a father and a mother could have. Both served their country and saw combat. Both are in college and making a life for themselves, very successful and rewarding life. The Army and Coast Guard have helped my children find themselves and define the life they want to live. By serving others, they have learned to bring out the best they have, and by keeping helping others, they shine for the world around them, and the others follow, and then shine on their own path. Thank GOD, these children are the best parents could wish for. I pray yours may realize their worthlessness and repent. Who knows?

It would seem that the one who clearly doesn’t understand the letter is YOU, genius! I’ve raised my kids, and their all doing just fine,Thanks! Nothing  that a moron like you would know anything about! Of course, I wouldn’t expect someone who would ask such a stupefied question to know much about anything! Do yourself a favor, and save it, for you’re not even in the same ballpark, let alone the same league!

having read the second part ( I am bitterly disappointed) I find it necessary to respond to thae part where the writer asks for Sam Adams to rise from the grave and give direction.    Well, we have been given those direction by the founding fathers in their quotes and the Federalist Papers.   YOU HAVE TO READ AND STUDY .    The answers are there in the founding documents.   ” WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE RIGHTFUL MASTERS OF BOTH CONGRESS AND THE COURTS , NOT TO OVERTHROW THE CONSTITUTION,BUT TO OVERTHROW THE MEN WHO PERVERT THE CONSTITUTION’    Abraham Lincoln.
“A generous Parent would have said , If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my children may have peace”     Thomas Paine

WHAT SAY YOU?   DO WE STAND UP AGAINST THIS USURPER AND CONSTITUTIONALLY ILLEGAL OCCUPANT OF THE WHITE HOUSE,OR DO WE HIDE OUR HEADS IN THE SAND AND HOPE IT PASSES US BY AND NOT WORRY ABOUT OUR POSTERITY?

I KNOW WHERE I STAND. FROM MY POSITION I CANNOT GET MY HEAD IN THE SAND.

It is a relief to see someone finally call the minimum wage an entry wage.  Now if people would understand that increasing the minimum wage is a tax, we might make some progress.

 AMEN!!

 Corey — if you make $8 an hour — it’s not to be a brain surgeon.  It’s not to be an accountant or a Pharmacy Tech.  It’s not family wages. If you don’t like your low wages at WM, etc -  show some professionalism — work hard — make it known that you are willing to do whatever you need to do to work your way up in the company.  My nephew did just that and is now a co-manager of a WalMart store.  But why bust your behind to work harder when you can just go out in a parking lot and “strike” and make a huge ruckus?  And then you get all those awesome perks for being a leech on society with your way of “thinking”.  And let me add another thing — I do make “family wages” by working full time in a very stress-filled job.  Don’t you think I would love to be a WM checker or shelf stocker for the same wages?  It just isn’t going to happen — so please -get a reality check!  And know that I don’t want to take care of your sorry @ss!

 When was the last time you got a good-paying job from a poor person?  Use your brain (the one that got you that Master’s Degree in Baloney) and think about it.

It was not fair to remove my comments as well as the Denverkitty’s attack on me.
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 People in the $8.90 per hour jobs are supposed to educate themselves and work their way into better paying situations!   You cannot raise a family at that pay level! You must move up to higher paying jobs! It is not the responsibility of the employer to pay you $20.00 per hour to flip burgers or stock store shelves!

Meant to only say why were my comments removed since my comments were not attacking anyone.

Well said. I have seen this time and time again. I have a grand daughter who has had 2 children by 2 different guys and is now living with the third guy. The first was nothing but a leach. The more we coddle our children the longer it takes them to learn the lesson God is trying to teach them

Reading that letter has made me so happy that my kids have worked their butts off to be successful, and are.  Now that puke in the White House want tot penalize them for their efforts to pay off the lazy collegians who majored in art instead of an employable vocation.
We who have strived for and achieved success are now to be the subjects of the Obama moocher crowd.  We are sorely outnumbered, and it will continue to become worse as this society proceeds in devolving to a permanent bloodsucking class.

Lary you are mostly right. But, you are wrong about the $9 more than unemployed which is why we are suffering under 4 more years of total misery. with benefits smany are content to sit and not work because they can get 12 Christmas’s a year with obamaclaus (Romney was wrong too BO is Santa x12) So those like Jessica and the Sub Captains kids should SHUT UP and work to better their lives and STOP complaining.
OUT

Corey, people make their own situations. It is up to them to plan their lives, plan for contingencies (what if my spouse dies, what if I get sick, what if …. etc.), It is up to them to graduate from high school, get further education, whether it is college, or a technical school, or some other specialized training, so that they have a better shot in life. It is up to them to work their way up the ladder, before getting married, before having kids etc. If they have been responsible in their lives and their planning, they will be able to handle the situations life hands them. However, if they chose NOT to seek further betterment, if they decide to quit high school, have unprotected sex and pop out kids, that is their own fault and they have to pay the piper. It is not the responsibility of the government or corporate America to take care of people who are failures of their own making.

BTW, you keep talking about this company you have. What is the name of it? What is the nature of the business?

You have a MASTER’S degree?!  You are so obviously a product of our failing education system.  Tell me where you went to school so I can tell my children to stay away from there.

“you need to crack open a beer and instead Sam Adams floats out like a Genie and he needs to give us that message” HAHAhahahahahahahaha!!!

I think the letter is powerful.  I don’t know if the result will be good, but my take is that this guy is a concerned father trying to make a difference in his children’s and grandchildren’s lives.  I can understand the pain he feels in seeing his grandchildren poorly cared for, or having to grow up with one parent or an unstable marriage as the foundation of their family, or financial hardship, or no promising future.  Perhaps a little humility on his part – after all, he did raise these kids he’s criticizing – would make it more palatable, but my guess is that he’s been nice before and just sees more mistakes and lack of effort and dumb choices being made.  It sounds like there was a big “whining to mom” session the night before, and perhaps he saw his wife upset or crying about it afterward.  Sometimes dads/husbands get very motivated when they see their wife upset. 

Without knowing the whole situation or knowing any of the people involved, it’s impossible to make a fair judgment.  However, on the surface, I see a dad and granddad who really, really loves these people and is willing to risk making them angry in order to say what needs to be said.  I also think he’s pretty eloquent in saying it.  I hope there is a good result, perhaps some deeper dialogue, facing reality, taking responsibility for their own choices, and perhaps making changes in their lives for the better.  If nothing else, granddad got it off his chest and can know that he did not keep silent when he saw the destruction in his children’s and grandchildren’s lives.  I do think people nowadays care way too much about their personal happiness and not enough about working hard on their marriages, sticking it out and solving the problems, staying together for the sake of the children.  The choice is not just between being miserable in a bad marriage or being free from that person and happy.  There is also the choice of solving the problems.  People need to keep their promises and MAKE the marriage work, get counseling, get support, as this dad said, ask for advice from mom and dad and use it.  Just splitting up doesn’t necessarily result in happiness.  As far as I can see, it just brings another set of problems, and causes untold loss, pain, and suffering for the children.  I say to this dad, “Good for you.”  I hope he also makes sure his kids know he loves them. 

Stu is so right, we need Sam Adams to talk to us this way.  I like to think I would be on Sam Adams’ side, just shouting, “Amen!” after his important points. 

he needs to step in to my life for a month.at least he has a big family and grandchildren.I will never have that.I have one daughter and last year she decided she wanted to become a boy and is in a relationship with an older women.and this is after her mother and myself have struggled with 20 years of money problems and health issues.our lives were already in the dumps and then last year right before christmas we learn this news.so yeah this guy compared seems to be taking it too far.be thankful that you have a large family(which was my dream)and grandchildren to enjoy(another dream of mine).just because they cant live up to his military hard-a**work ethic.give them a chance.

Corey, my advice is – if you get married and have children – don’t GET divorced.  An adult couple works out their problems, upholds their marriage vows, and doesn’t throw in the towel when life gets a little difficult. How do you do that?  Don’t marry or have children with someone you don’t know.

 It’s free at the library. Many people receiving welfare also can take advantage of free job training to help them get a better job, including computer/internet services. Many towns have assistance programs for people in need. It is up tto them to search for resources – take the initiative. The problem is, people with a defeatist attitude like you have, will never get anywhere in life. It is often just that attitude that puts them in the sorry financial situation they are in, and will keep them from getting out of it..

 What’s wrong with $8.90/hour?  We NEED entry-level jobs in this society.  We need jobs that people with very little skill or training can do well.  As for Wal-Mart, they promote those $8.90/hour employees up to management and the vast majority are very happy with their jobs.  The unions are trying from the outside to get into Wal-Mart, in my opinion motivated only by the prospect of more union dues flowing in.  The people picketing were mostly NOT Wal-Mart employees.  As for McDonald’s, I worked there in high school, and I was very, very glad to have the job.  It was part-time, they trained me, and they paid me a fair wage for the work I did.  It wasn’t my dream job, but I got some work experience, which helped me when I applied for a better job.  That’s the way it works. 

And why in the world would anyone want to work for a company that DOESN’T make record profits?  That just shows the company is successful in providing products or services that people want for a price that they are willing to pay.  That’s called a win/win, and the employees benefit by remaining employed. 

I am shocked and dismayed at how many people in this country have no clue how capitalism works, and don’t even know that it’s the best system in the world, with the greatest opportunity for individual improvement in standard of living, the most fair, and most efficient, and the only one that allows the individual freedoms we value so much.  We need to do a much better job at teaching this stuff in school.  It’s not rocket science.  It’s so basic, and yet we have all these citizens who are being duped by socialist lies into thinking that a company making record profits is bad, that everyone should be paid the same, regardless of the skill or responsibility of the job, that somehow everyone is OWED a living wage the day they are born.  It’s nuts!!!!

So, you own your own company?  Anyone working for you that you are paying minimum wage?

Absolutely, beautifully put.  Since our founding, we have had but one direction, to follow the constitution.  Barry Soetoro, the “illegal occupant of the White House,” is culling his “Citizen Army” from the likes of, union thugs, illegal immigrants, New Black Panthers, OWS druggies & rapists, Soros minions, LGTB’s, and quite frankly, the “We got us Obama phones, that’s right, Obama phones!”, as so eloquently put by a paid protester in Ohio. When he gets the defense budget stripped down to bare-bones, then he will do away with the presidential term limits, and deploy his army. Research the ‘Excutive Orders’ he has signed – over 950 – in just the past 3 yrs! You’ll be astonished, as we have lost all our property already, just with his simple ‘declaring a national disaster.’ Sadly, the backbone of this country, 80+ year olds, are dying off, and what is left are those of us who listened, and respected their views. However, this massive crush to our republic has reached the breaking point. I stand with you, PhilipH, no head in the sand here, but who else will??????

Mad…I wouldn’t be to rough on this guy as a parent…..this garbage is going on all over the world.  He’s disgusted with this “sexual revolution”…the bed hopping from one partner to another, leaving a string of little children…some only half related to each other.
 
 It’s the attitude of our kids to us as parents, they don’t want to listen or take advice from us.  The slightest criticism from us sends them off into a deep abyss they have trouble excaping from and will hold a grudge for eternity.  For instance: I questioned my 19 year old daughter, “Are you sure you want to marry him instead of going on to college”?  With that, she secretly married the guy without my knowlege, had a good sized wedding in another state and did not invite me.  She’s now on her third marriage with a string of guys inbetween each and never did finish college!  According to her, the only joy she has in her life is smoking and drinking and she didn’t learn that from me!! 

These kids have to answer for their lives and their mistakes…and my comment is:  Good Luck on that!  Unfortunately, we sometimes get the responsibility of their “mistakes”!!

What you are supposed to do is have a life plan. If you don’t want to work for $9/hr, get an education; college, trade school, even a skilled apprenticeship of some sort. You can’t just show up with an application, no qualifications, no education, and expect to keep up with the Jones. Life and the government do not OWE you a plasma TV, a $60K car, HD Cable TV, and a 4 bedroom house on easy street. Live within your means or do something to improve your station in life.

Punching the clock at a job that requires no skills and no intelligence ain’t gonna get you there. You want to blame ATM’s for eliminating bank tellers? How about the people who design, build, program, install, repair, and maintain those ATM’s? Those are better jobs than most bank teller jobs, but they require SKILLS and some amount of education, responsibility, and self-motivation. It’s every individual’s choice. I never got a degree, but I retired as the Service Manager for a company that manufactures medical equipment; because I came in at entry level, accepted every challenge and opportunity, and made myself the go-to guy anytime, every time. Sure it took years and it’s not available to everybody. That’s why YOU have to make yourself stand out, work harder, smarter, faster, and creatively. You can’t just punch the clock and wait for payday.

Good for this father!  Many of our own kids should receive a letter like this from the parents.  It is very much like our “state of affairs”  here in the USA!  Odummer needs a quick kick in the as* to realize what he has done to America — he has failed everyone!

I would sure like to be a fly on the wall of their evening before the letter, in which the man’s  adult kids treated their mom like a cesspool.  I can imagine that dear old Dad had the shakes in trying to stay his fist.  Dad wrote this letter for a reason.  Dad was correct in writing this letter, if anything he indicated about the kids was true.  I expect that if a few MORE parents were brave enough to call their kids on their garbage, and point it out, and proclaim “That, (what you are doing) is GARBAGE!” then more adults would try a little harder.  The problem with our generation is that we weren’t hard enough on our little darlings.  We didn’t see to it that they REALLY understood the sacrifices that were made on their behalf, to the point that they didn’t even notice them.  In a perfect world, we would love the person yet hate their actions.  However, in all honesty, humans aren’t that perfect, or that able to separate the (hu)man from the behavior.  Kind-of-like “you are what you spew.  Be that as it may, I take full responsibility for the foundation I gave my kids, and it was truly NOT enough.  Somehow, I just assumed that kids, by living their minutes, hours, and days around their parents, would SEE-  would notice the things that their parents did, and it would somehow impress in their minds that they would do well to learn these traits.  I was, in a word, stupid for even assuming that.  Oh, I loved and cherished my kids, sure-  but I didn’t take the time to actually EXPLAIN to them why I did what I did, spoke like I did, and made the choices I did.  And, really, as soon as they were old enough to really understand any of those explanations, they would interrupt with the eyeball-rolling, and say “I already KNOW that, MOM.   One of my kids turned out like I expected,  one did not, and one- well, the outcome was completely out of my hands.  I could have had loftier expectations and still rewarded their positive choices, and not just turned my head in hurt when one would make horrible choices, then listen sadly as they lied to me about them.   It is really hard to prove/disprove a lie, -so, we tend to give our kids the benefit of the doubt, till we realize we are part of the problem, and they aren’t helping improve their future, either.  Personally, had it been me writing the letter, and they were my kids, I would have recognized that my kids were somewhat dumb, and would have spelled it all out for them, maybe even multiple-choiced some of the correct answers to some of their more stupid choices-  sort-of give them a  little boost in the correct direction…   -Oh, and the other problem with our generation, and that before us, is that we failed to raise our kids in a Church.  It is there where we give our kids the very best moral structure, and taking them to Church is SO smart, since they assume from the first time they recognize you made a mistake on something in front of them that you are somewhat stupid, and they trust your judgment a tad less with each mistake you  make in front of them.  Thus, hearing the parameters of a solid moral structure that is SO critical to the success of a ‘village’ from someone else’s lips other than their own parents’ allows the kids to actually believe what they hear.  Oh, kids love their parents, of course, but you really want your soon-to-be-teenager to actually adopt the solid moral structure you are responsible for putting in their path.  Not only that, hearing it from a thrid party also allows you to have open conversations about what you all learned at church- about the moral structure that will support them later.  If the ‘gospel truth’ comes from you, chances are they will be afraid to question it or challenge it in front of you.,  Take them to church!  It will not hurt them, and may well be the very thing that stops them from becoming a thief or a murderer.  “OH!”  you say!  “How dare you?”   -Hey!  Even thieves and murderers have parents.  They just don’t have the moral structure inside them that forbids them to act evilly against others!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

It is happening.  Its creepy to see how fast, too.  I have always said, since I first heard Obama’s initial lies, that he is working from inside America to destroy us.  He has not proven me wrong yet. 

Lary, I think the problem is that these kids went to college and listened to someone selling them an education blowing smoke about how they will be able to just step off the campus and have someone snatch them right up for top of the company.  It was salesmanship, and they were gullible enough to buy it.  While that might speak positively about these people’s innocence and lack of suspicion toward others, it doesn’t really speak too kindly of their swallowing every hook, like and sinker that was fed to them in their beloved albeit expensive college.  Once these children understand what has been done to them, they are going to be ticked!  Hook, line and sinker… and never once asked Mom or Dad what THEY thought of it all.  BY MYSELFFFF!   BY MYSELLLLLF!  (what my beautiful daughter used to yell at me when she was two and trying to get dressed without Mommy’s help.)  Now, she has twin two-year-olds, and the deer-in-the-headlights-look in her eyes.    Mamma used to tell me and my sibs, “I hope you have ten just like you!”

Lary, I think the problem is that these kids went to college and listened to someone selling them an education blowing smoke about how they will be able to just step off the campus and have someone snatch them right up for top of the company.  It was salesmanship, and they were gullible enough to buy it.  While that might speak positively about these people’s innocence and lack of suspicion toward others, it doesn’t really speak too kindly of their swallowing every hook, like and sinker that was fed to them in their beloved albeit expensive college.  Once these children understand what has been done to them, they are going to be ticked!  Hook, line and sinker… and never once asked Mom or Dad what THEY thought of it all.  BY MYSELFFFF!   BY MYSELLLLLF!  (what my beautiful daughter used to yell at me when she was two and trying to get dressed without Mommy’s help.)  Now, she has twin two-year-olds, and the deer-in-the-headlights-look in her eyes.    Mamma used to tell me and my sibs, “I hope you have ten just like you!”

I think he was replying to a spammer.

As for the topic of this article, I blame the media more than parenting. As the father said most of his children’s mistakes were “copulation-driven”, basically they destroyed their marriages and children’s future for sexual pleasure.

The reason I blame the media is, there is a WIDESPREAD belief, almost universally amongst Western society that there is “love at first sight” and some magical element to love (that is HORMONES, not love!) , instead of the hard-work and friendship that is true love.

So when the hormones wear off, and some new girl/guy walks along and those hormones are active with them, much of western society interprets this to be “true love” so they leave their husbands/wives and cheat. Rinse and repeat.

It’s beyond idiocy. Western civilization has deluded itself that hormonal attraction is “love”.

P.S. The thread-starter shared something I never realized before, that drones could be the “scorpion-like flyers” of revelations with the “power of stinging in their tails”. Definitely something to think on as America deploys 30,000 drones stateside (an insane number!).

I think he was replying to a spammer.

As for the topic of this article, I blame the media more than parenting. As the father said most of his children’s mistakes were “copulation-driven”, basically they destroyed their marriages and children’s future for sexual pleasure.

The reason I blame the media is, there is a WIDESPREAD belief, almost universally amongst Western society that there is “love at first sight” and some magical element to love (that is HORMONES, not love!) , instead of the hard-work and friendship that is true love.

So when the hormones wear off, and some new girl/guy walks along and those hormones are active with them, much of western society interprets this to be “true love” so they leave their husbands/wives and cheat. Rinse and repeat.

It’s beyond idiocy. Western civilization has deluded itself that hormonal attraction is “love”.

P.S. The thread-starter shared something I never realized before, that drones could be the “scorpion-like flyers” of revelations with the “power of stinging in their tails”. Definitely something to think on as America deploys 30,000 drones stateside (an insane number!).

drwooly, I am not so sure.  Trade school, yes.  Becoming a Doc is obtaining a marketable trade.  I am a nurse, and that is trade, both of which are largely useful to the population.  We were educated as we obtained our trades.   -But I have known MANY an educated fool who ran up astronomical college debt, then puffed their idiotic chest(s, collectively/individually, of course) out and proclaimed to the world “I should be making more money than a neurosurgeon, because I have more education than they do, you see…” as they camp in Mom’s basement.  Lifer students, who have education and not a LICK of sense.  (like many in our government today.)

drwooly, I am not so sure.  Trade school, yes.  Becoming a Doc is obtaining a marketable trade.  I am a nurse, and that is trade, both of which are largely useful to the population.  We were educated as we obtained our trades.   -But I have known MANY an educated fool who ran up astronomical college debt, then puffed their idiotic chest(s, collectively/individually, of course) out and proclaimed to the world “I should be making more money than a neurosurgeon, because I have more education than they do, you see…” as they camp in Mom’s basement.  Lifer students, who have education and not a LICK of sense.  (like many in our government today.)

I agree with this letter 100%.  My kids are doing OK but I know of SO many lazy, worthless scumbags who get out of high school—or not, and then sit on their butts in front of computer games day in and day out.  IF they move, it’s only to go out to find drugs to further warp their pea-brains. This seems to be the “norm” for kids these days!  Go to college? Why bother.  College just makes getting the drugs easier and after the “finish” (at whatever level that may be) they still won’t put any effort into finding a job!  Nothing is expected from ‘the little darlings’ and that is EXACTLY what they give us!

I agree with this letter 100%.  My kids are doing OK but I know of SO many lazy, worthless scumbags who get out of high school—or not, and then sit on their butts in front of computer games day in and day out.  IF they move, it’s only to go out to find drugs to further warp their pea-brains. This seems to be the “norm” for kids these days!  Go to college? Why bother.  College just makes getting the drugs easier and after the “finish” (at whatever level that may be) they still won’t put any effort into finding a job!  Nothing is expected from ‘the little darlings’ and that is EXACTLY what they give us!

True education in American: elementary, grade schools, jr high, high schools, colleges and universities ceased along time ago. We have had more than 50 years of social promotions and kids being passed on to the next grade that can’t read, write or add and subtact. In order to make little Johnny feel good about himself eventhough he didn’t pass we  instead pass him and tell him he is a winner. So at an early age he doesn’t take responsibility for his actions,his failures and in ablity to solve problems. Instead of making his parents responsibile for not training little Johnny and helping him with his homework or participating in his schooling we allow the parents to blame society, the teachers, the system, anyone but themselves. Of course why should liittle Johnny even be interested in true eduction when he sees: kids in his neighboorhood selling drugs and making thousands of dollars,he sees gangesters buying 92 inch TVs, new cars, clothes, bling,etc, when he sees corrupt politicans making millions of dollars in kickbacks, college athlethets dropping out of college to play in the NFL instead of finishing college, all around him he learns that an education isn’t necessary if you have money. Naturally having children out of wedlock is ok because the role model he sees all have sex with numerous women and foster several children who will be cared for by the government anyway. We have raised generation after generation of “Me” first indivduals who care nothing for traditions,God, country, justice, freedom and can’t comprehend anything futher than the end of their nose. Want to know why we have reached this point in history, why we will be living in a socialist/communist nation—-look at the children that have been raised. We can’t blame anyone,but ourselves for what has happened, we allowed it to happen and did nothing. We called it tolerance, putting little Johnny in time out instead of spanking him,we watched our schools deteriorate into nothing more than baby sitting establishments where the only thing the children were doing is taking up time and space. We have thousands of selfish,self centered,illiterate 20 yr old juveniles that neither have the capacity to work or the will to want to.They continue to populate the earth and  they don’t feel any responsibility toward the babies that are born or how to feed,clothe and provide for them. They feel that even if they are offered a job it is beneath their diginity to do such labor for mininum wage.They want white collar jobs that start  at $30.00 an hour with benefits. They believe that it is their right. And the best part is the Education System is continuing to produce them. This country is spiritually ,morally and intelectually bankrupt. Who caused it—-we did!

The people earning minimum wage have no experience and are at entry level positions flipping burgers, learning to run a cash register, etc.  These positions are where people BEGIN their careers.  Come ON.  Everyone starts here at some point.  Those who have any work ethic and a brain won’t stay at entry level for long. It’s a STARTING point.  Where one goes from there is totally up to the individual. And with that climb up the ladder comes more responsiblity, and more income.  And that is how it’s done in the USA.

I wrote a similar letter to half of my Irish in-laws. To date they will not speak to me. 

Result!

I like the reference to the founding fathers writing such a letter to the American nation because, as a Briton, that war was amongst ex-pat Brits to decide between a comfortable but undemocratic existence or the freedom to make what they could of their lives. It wasn’t possible in the British Isles but distance and a huge country gave up the possibility of a clean break.It grieves me to see America going the same way as socialist Europe where the people live under fake, self serving democracies for the benefit of a political “elite”, where self sufficiency is being drained away, to be replaced by State dependency, thought crimes and massive national indebtedness.Once a people depend upon the State they will continue to vote for it whilst the independent souls are vilified squeezed to pay for it all.The end result however is societal breakdown/revolution or the imposition of a Soviet/National style Socialist dictatorship. 

Obama and his fellow snake oil salesmen are rotting your souls and leading you into debt and a  debauched society.

Well, I hope he does NOT apologize to the children who do not wish to speak to him again. SIGH….and I mean a really big SIGH here….I’m considered an “old” lady but I really have had it with people who choose to not be responsible for their own actions/lives. And, we in America have been caught sleeping and not too concerned with the direction our country was being taken. We’ve given up on God who has really blessed us and protected us all these years. So now, we learn to live with the government that “THEY” want!

I  thank God for my son. 

 He has failed everyone!  THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT HE HAS BEEN TRYING TO DO, AND HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED HIS GOAL.

I agree with most of what you said. Just be careful when you say “it’s $9 an hour more than being unemployed” NOT TRUE, and there lies the problem… you’re forgetting about, 99 weeks of unemployment, disability, welfare with no more work requirement, Food stamps etc. There is no more stigma attached to relying on these programs. The liberals have changed the nomenclature – i.e. foodstamps now SNAP which is administered with a discreet debit card. They’ve reprogrammed our children in the public schools they’ve controlled for decades to accept, and be rewarded for mediocrity at best. We’re out numbered because too many of us sat idly by while the socialists changed our country from under us by mis-educating our children.

In reply to Larry,
I agree with most of what you said. Just be careful when you say “it’s $9 an hour more than being unemployed” NOT TRUE, and there lies the problem… you’re forgetting about, 99 weeks of unemployment, disability, welfare with no more work requirement, Food stamps etc. There is no more stigma attached to relying on these programs. The liberals have changed the nomenclature – i.e. foodstamps now SNAP which is administered with a discreet debit card. They’ve reprogrammed our children in the public schools they’ve controlled for decades to accept, and be rewarded for mediocrity at best. We’re out numbered because too many of us sat idly by while the socialists changed our country from under us by mis-educating our children.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

What the hell did you say? I just would like to know what language you are using – if that was supposed to be English, you failed. I told you the price vs. wage ratio, (a mathematical term for the relationship between one value and another, in this case prices in relation to pay), has not changed a great deal. Back when I was making $1.00 plus change an hour as a private in the Army we certainly didn’t pay a dollar for a loaf of bread, but you can’t tell me that at $8.00 plus an hour you are paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread now – or are you?

Someone here needs to do some research, and it isn’t me. I was feeding my children long before you were born. I think I know a thing or two about this subject, and that is certainly more than you appear to know.

No one puts money into a business unless they want to make a profit. They offer you  wage and you accept. Be grateful you have a job. If you’re not satisfied QUIT and find one that your ability can handle. I am sure YOU wouldn’t risk your money to open a business and NOT want to make a profit. And by the way…as wages go up, so does everything else you need to buy.

No one puts money into a business unless they want to make a profit. They offer you  wage and you accept. Be grateful you have a job. If you’re not satisfied QUIT and find one that your ability can handle. I am sure YOU wouldn’t risk your money to open a business and NOT want to make a profit. And by the way…as wages go up, so does everything else you need to buy.

Well said

Well said

So start today and work your way up. No place will pay you for loafing and bitching. Those who don’t work…don’t deserve to eat. Hang up your bama fone and start working. You are as stale as a 10 day old slice of bread. If you’re a school drop out..go get your GED and make something out of yourself. When the gov. money runs out, so do your ‘gimmies’

That Dad needs to drown himself while out to sea. What a prick.

You are a typical uninformed and uneducated idiot.  McDonald’s is not a career platform.  It never has been.  It is a stepping stone to acquiring workplace skills and nothing more.  I consider $8.90 per hour as way to high a wage for a person with no skills to offer.  What do these people do?  Educate themselves into real careers.  Use McDonalds as that stepping stone.  And, McDonald’s profits are none of your business least you be a stockholder.  Since when did a company with profits all of a sudden be a bad thing?  Anyone who thinks that they can support themselves or a family, for that matter, by working at a fast food chain is an idiot.  These people, and I am grouping you into that class, prefer to demand high wages and benefits while offering nothing in return.  Tell you what – start your own business, say in burger flipping, and then pay your employees $25 per hour or some other acceptable “living wage” and provide them every benefit possible and you, my spoiled girl, will be out of business. You people are the ones who demand that the government provide everything for you.  And, guess what, it is people exactly like you and those who expect something for nothing who will be, and are, the basis for the downfall of this country.  I know you don’t understand a word I have said. What are you going to do when the economy comes crashing down from this government’s addictive spending habits where .40 cents on the dollar is borrowed or printed simply to buy votes?  You and all the other takers of this society will be the first to suffer and I mean SUFFER.  But, you are too worried about McDonald’s profits to even begin understanding what that means.  Good luck because you will need it when the money stops coming.

I agree with Stu.  I wish he would not start out so many sentences with “I mean”.

Look for a new job

Whoa… that’s a lot of zeros!!!  The word “trillion” doesn’t do it justice!

It is very difficult for a parent to raise a child without God being very present in the family life.  Society intervenes, and more often than not, today’s society includes vast amounts of what this man calls “copulation” and by that I am sure he means not with the spouse that person is married to.  As he said, innocent children suffer, and probably those presently innocent children will grow up to be even worse than their parents.  The sexual revolution has done more to damage society than any other revolution since the godless French revolution, which spawned the godless socialist revolution.  Again, without God we are doomed.

Sorry but for a retired “Submarine Captain” who probably never spent more tan 30 days a year with his kids to express a deep disappointment in the way they turned out is above and beyond my comprehension.

So Jessica Dear, Stand Up for yourself put your own business make how ever profit you can want from your sweat, do not coveth other peoples success ”Make Your Own”, of course if Government lets you. 

Copulation-driven life;  reminds me of SANDRA FLUCK/feminists

Things are bad, yes. But as the old song goes, “You ain’t seen nothin’ yet, bbbbbaby you just ain’t seen nnnnothin yet”.

Gotta wonder why those 3 children have such poor work ethics and poor judgement.  Was their dad’s relationship to them so bad that they rebelled against or ignored their father’s values?  Did he lovingly guide them to study hard, make wise life choices and pursue good and noble careers? Did he consistently encourage them throughout all their lives as they grew up? Did he lead by example? I have a hard time putting the 100% of the blame all on them esp since there are three, not just one, being addressed.  Yes, ultimately they each have to choose to be responsible adults, but parents have so much responsibility, also, to raise up children to become adults capable of contributing positively to society. Proverbs 22:6

Start children off on the way they should go, and even when they are old they will not turn from it. Ephesians 6:4

Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.

Yes, this letter should be read and absorbed by so many!!!  Because there are many deadbeat children like his. And many hold their children (grandpa’s grandchildren) like hostages or pawns.  This man wrote to his grown children to smarten up and take care of the own children better.  Too many offspring are using “up” their parents.  I’ve seen this in action and I get angry about it too. Kick your lazy-a@@ kids to the curb. Let them sink or swim. You would be doing them a big favor. The other alternative is to let them suck off the meager living the parent will have as they head to lower income and retirement. So the kids hang around like vultures waiting to snatch everything when they die. Ugh! That makes me sick.  This man is right to have written such a letter.  Many, many many should be reading it!!!

People like you are the reason Obummer made two terms. Your idea is punishing the companies that PROVIDE JOBS, instead of creating your own wealth or working towards a good career. This man reflects what many people today feel that; everything is instant gratification. Gimme now! I know hundreds of people who have put the ‘cart before the horse’ and for some unfathomable reason didn’t see the need for contraception, but now expect the whole country to help pay for their kids in the way of welfare, medicaid, food stamps, etc. The only ones I feel sorry for are the kids born to these people – just like the father who wrote this letter. They need to stop whinging and get off their duffs and work hard to provide for the kids they brought into this world. It’s beyond sickening…

I heard the letter read on the radio this week. Everyone ought to read it, as we are in a literal cesspool of mediocrity in this country. That is what the tyrant wants too (BO, that is). Thanks for posting the letter. By the way, I had never heard the term cock-up. I looked it up and it is British slang meaning “to botch.” 

Way to go, Dad!  Maybe you should have gotten off your perch much sooner and had a go!
 

As a father of 4 yes there are many peak’s and valley’s this is true but nobody should ever be thrown away , When listening to it on the radio just isn’t the same as reading it ,how in the hell did we get to this point in time? Just turn on that box in your house that tell’s us how are life should be . Unfortunately most of the people out there now can’t distinguish the difference between what life really is about , Most quit when the fantasy never happen’s!
And to you sir the father is the head of the family so goes the sin’s of the family.
Alison,Jeffery,Aliegha,Matthew
I’m your father and you had NO choice in the matter therefore that’s who i will be until i die and there after ! love is much stronger than hate or disappointment.

 When I was in my teens, we put crews together and WALKED bean fields for farmers or we wouldn’t have anything fun. Those RICH farmers only paid us $1.50 an hour. Oh the abuse. Granted, that was in dinosaur age before seed companies started poisoning seedcorn and seedbeans with RoundUp weed killer. We had a blast!!! Up at 4:30 a.m. everyday, work until 1 p.m. when it got hot outside (global warming, I  presume – even though any sensible common sense person would agree that summer is hot, winter is cold. So they decide to call it global warming and then one winter it snowed and was colder than heck – so to try not to look TOO STUPID, algore and his buddies the Clintons and Jeff Immelt  thought they better change it to CLIMATE change. What a bunch of greedy, power hungry dufuses. Anyway, $1.50 an hour was so GREAT when we would get paid for the week. We could have a fun Friday night on only 5 bucks. $3 to fill the gas tank and $2 for a pack of smokes. We were happy. We sure didn’t demonize the farmers. My family are farmers. It’s hard work but we loved it. I loved getting dirty, sweaty and tired after working outside. It surely was not abuse. I keep wondering how we EVER survived without cell phones, internet and satellite TV. We had ONE b/w tv with 3 channels and when you wanted to change the channel, you had to go outside and turn the antenna. These poor kids who have to work at McDonalds for $9 an hour – I feel so bad for them. No, not really. They need to figure out that when they start screaming at their employers for a higher minimum wage and the govt is involved, it’s a TAX INCREASE for the employer and the employee. Common sense should tell you that raising minimum wage means less hours or no job at all. God, please wake up the common sense you created them with!!

Give children your Blessing- and pray for them, and grandchildren.

Whiner! I had lots of these kinds of jobs when I was young and in elementary school…paper routes, etc. When I entered high school, I had over $2000.00 in the bank…that was 1953. Want a better job? Earn it you slacker. Minimum wage is for minimum work and minimum use of your brain.

Reply to Paolina…

“Yeah, the Washington Post made me do it”

“Once these children understand what has been done to them, they are going to be ticked!  Hook, line and sinker… and never once asked Mom or Dad what THEY thought of it all”. 

Unfortunately, they may never “get it” The US has been dumbed down to the extent that it may take generations to get back to reality. And, reality is to have a strong grounding in religion, Christianity in my case.

Work hard, work smart, get paid, get promoted. Work at McDs, Wal-Mart for minimum and think its a career? Delusional

I’m in line for some face piercings and tattoos. After that, I’m, gonna get me some of them gold rope chains, put my hat on sideways and interview for a management position. Then when I don’t get the job, I’m gonna smoke some dope and complain that I’ve been treated unfairly.

It all the fault of the NY Times. 

The dangerous thing about Sandra is she is a well educated woman who may be influential some day. For now, she a puppet.

I can feel the waxing already.  I feel a deep despair that I have never felt before.  I wish that God would allow me to go on with my head in the sand and not care at all about the condition of this world and our beloved country.  I knew that judgement would come and now more than ever I want to believe it won’t be soon.   

You just described LEGALIZED SLAVERY.A lot of people are very happy being taken care of from the cradle to the grave.   We are offically Socialist next comes Communism.

In 1963 when I worked my first job it was 75 cents an hour at a Seafood Drive-in.  I did not like seafood growing up and I did not like the smell of it deepfrying, but I needed the job because my parents were not rich.  I eventualy Joined the Air Force and learned three trades.  There was a draft at the time but I joined the service I wanted to be in.  Best decision of my life.  Now kids expect everything.  Sad state of affairs now a days noone wants to take responsibility for themselves. 

Repeat……It is a learning wage, not a wage to raise a family on.

I did it at 75 cents an hour and was glad to have the job that I walked to, seven days a week.

The cell phone commercial lady has it right…American’s like to whine. Blame everyone but themsleves for what ever they think is wrong.  Want to know what makes me concerned? Did I miss the rapture? Am I in the days of the beast?

What do you expect with an education system that teaches the kind of misguided crap that ms Sherwood believes. These are the same people who think that the middle class is being saved by the democrats and the unions!

I have a sister-in-law who quit a school district after 25 plus years. She loved teaching and strove that whole time to convince ce the kids that they could do anything if they worked hard and applied themselves. A message most needed to hear since it was a very poor district apparently. She left because over the last few years rather than hearing “yes I can do that” the stock answer became “why should I work so hard when I can have the gobment support me”. She left that district with a broken heart.

True Story.

I don’t know how well this man was able to relate to his children, but his letter eloquently states a condition in which too many parents find themselves. Coming to the realization that their children, having perpetually been cushioned from the hard knocks of life by the sacrifices of parents attempting to make a better life for their children than that which they experienced, could not possibly survive on their own. Worse, in many cases, these children are so selfish as to use their own children as hostages in their war against responsibility.

It matters little what the upbringing of these children was. What they fail to realize is that, having produced progeny, they are no longer children of their parents, they are simply parents. Too many today have bought into the panacea that someone else should be responsible for every whim and desire, while every foolish mistake is to be excused with no recrimination, lest their feelings be damaged.

Sadly, in many cases, these “children” see their own children as little more than pawns in a game in which the stakes equate to the perpetuation of their very way of life. Like all dependency, reward for poor decisions and failures guarantees nothing more than perpetual unhappiness. 

I understand how this can happen. As a parent of adult children, I have had to fight my own tendency to rescue. The idea of my grandchildren suffering because I failed to help sickens me. Yet, in helping my children to realize the satisfaction of sacrifice of their wants in deference to my grandchildrens’ needs has resulted in a feeling of empowerment and achievement that simply would not have been possible had I followed my instinctive inclinations to “rescue” them from the responsibility of poor decisions. This is not to say that it is a battle completely won with finality.

This letter is a type for what is happening in America right now. Obama feels that we need governmental intervention in each and every decision we make from birth to death. ALL evidence shows that this leads to enslavement; a dependency as inculcated as any genetic characteristic and FAR, far, more devastating.

It is a world in which results have no place in guiding decisions,  and where ideology trumps all. What is happening in the life of this struggling family in the UK is very typical of our circumstances here in the US.

I believe that every word that this man said is starkly true. However, without saying it with love, it is likely to yield little more than more blaming, more refusal to take responsibility and more justification for a self-inflicted plight. What would be appropriate for a statesman to say to a nation may not be so for a father. He may well spend much of the rest of his life trying to overcome the result of words that, while true, may remove any ability he would have had to influence the lives of his children and his grandchildren.

This is why, for those who hold a belief in parenting with prayer, perhaps asking for guidance for how to present the facts in a way that leaves open a way back to the “fold” may have yielded more desirable results. I have no doubt that this man loves his children and I know he loves his grandchildren. But if pride had anything to do with the delivery of his counsel, he will surely come to regret the manner of delivery, if not the factual basis of his letter. If pride was a factor, he may live to lament harsh words if they result in an abject inability to positively influence the lives of, at the very least, his grandchildren.

Lary, you are my hero!  A man with courage AND common sense!  I certainly wasn’t above working at McDonald’s when I first got out of high school, in order to earn a living. (minimum wage was a lot different then, too)  It taught me the value of a work ethic, so I could work my way up to something more my cup of tea.
I love you!  Will you marry me?(lol) Don’t let my handle fool you; I’m a girl!

Sometimes I’d swear my house is bugged! This letter is so on topic with some recent activity that’s been playing out in my life that it’s almost eerie.

Although I don’t have the grandchildren that the writer spoke about, I do have kids in college. One of them applies herself, takes great care in the direction of her education, consistently makes Dean’s list, and has achieved various honors. Although she has developed the liberal mindset that seems so prevalent in today’s universities, she has somehow remained focused and goal oriented, is willing to helps others, and she’s always pleasant to be around. I’m confident that one day she’ll achieve her goal and become the doctor that she’s working so hard to become.

My other child, has switched his major so many times it would make your head spin. It’s going to take him 5 1/2 years to earn a four year degree. In fact, this semester alone, he’s expected to receive an incomplete in three out of five classes. Of course I’m expected to pay for his continued lackluster attitude. My son lies constantly, if his mouth is moving, you can bet your eyes that it’s probably 95% fiction. He’s lazy, unhygienic, disrespectful, and has that hard-headed, “you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about,” attitude that makes me wish I could put his damn head through a wall!

Against my protests, my son finally settled on a History degree. He genuinely finds it interesting, but what in God’s name can you do with a History degree? He doesn’t want to teach, -says he doesn’t like kids. Apparently he thinks they’re all “stupid, hormonal, and drama driven.” Hello! Look in the mirror, lately? He doesn’t want to go onto Law School, yet he has no prospects and no idea of what he might want to do with his life other than drink, play video games, and get laid. Truth be told, I couldn’t imagine having to pay for Law School while watching another halfhearted attempt from him! So again, what can you do with a history degree? Work at a museum? Is there a Chinese history museum anywhere in the United States?

Not to sound cliche’ but what we have here is a failure to launch! Last week, my son announced that he was going to quit school and join the military, even though he only has two semesters left in his 5 1/2 year collegiate stint. To me, that’s like running a marathon, falling down a few times, getting up and jumping back into the race only to quit when you’re ten yards from the finish line. Is he insane? Granted, he could probably use the strong boot in the ass that the military is known for giving guys like him, but he’s just not that guy…that career military man. And, if he was that guy, if the military was the thing that drove him, then wouldn’t he be better off if he went into it with a college degree?

I can honestly relate to the frustration felt by this father, but as I reflect back on what went wrong in my situation, I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s the parents. We’ve worked so hard to give our children every opportunity, every advantage, -we made every resource available to them. We’ve picked them up when they’ve fallen, brushed them off and sent them back into the game. We’ve given them a hand up, a hand out, and encouragement at every step of their journey. We have defended them, bailed them out of bad situations, and worst yet, made excuses for, or justified bad behavior. We have given them everything we could afford to give them, letting them want for nothing. Have we done so much that we’ve failed them? Have we advised and instructed them to the extent that now, they aren’t able to figure things out for themselves. Have we turned them into robotic idiots who are helpless without our constant control?

As children, we had to build our own relationships, there were no ‘play dates.’ We fought our own battles, worked things out for ourselves, and got ourselves out of trouble for fear our parents would find out; -yet we deprive our children of those same life lessons. We couldn’t afford to keep up with the Jones’ when I was a child, and even if we could afford it, other things took priority.

We’ve raised a generation of insolent, audacious and helpless incompetents who cannot survive without having us there to wipe their noses for them. It’s not the schools fault, it’s not the liberals or the government, it’s us, the parents! As a parent, it was my job to turn a happy, well adjusted, self-sufficient and productive member of society loose on the world, -so far, I seem to have failed miserably in that job. I have to take responsibility for that fact, and own what I’ve done. And now that I’ve had this little epiphany, I have to act fast to turn my failure into something that resembles success, because, as a parent, I owe that to my child. He doesn’t want to live with me until he’s 40 years old, anymore than I want him to!

The writer of the letter reminds me that I am not alone. A lot of parents are waking to find themselves and their children in this position. The only difference between us is that he blames his kids for not growing up, and I blame myself for taking away the tools my son needed to achieve personal growth, individuality, and true success. Clearly, as parents, many of us are failing to launch.

If this dad is a sarcastic perfectionist who sees everyone as “beneath him” including his kids and nothing they do is good enough, then I don’t agree with his letter.  However, if he and wife as parents did everything they could to provide for their children yet they ended up being “OWS whiners” expecting to live off the their parents and/or the system for the rest of their lives, then I can understand his disappointment.

No one is entitled to anything.  Nothing in life is free.  We all have the opportunity to become who we want to become.  Some have it easier than others.  Some have it more difficult than others.  But the bottom line, this is the land of the free but more and more people think, feel, and believe ”the land of the free” means they can live off the government for free, not embrace and cherish FREEdom as our Founding Fathers wanted all Americans to do.

Let me start by saying I disowned my own generation when I was 16 yrs old. They don’t have the personal responsibility to work things out and make the tough decisions. Nothing worth anything comes free or easy. At one time I had 5 jobs at the same time. I will never work that hard again only to have the rewards of that work handed over to people who are capable but not not working “because they can’t handle anything”. I exclude any truely ill or disabled person from this. I am not hartless. Just tired of paying…and paying…and paying…for those who are able and should do for themselves.

My being the father of three, I can imagine the MUM of the being a large part of the problem!  My experience with mothers is that they tend to protect their children rather than try to direct them!  Fathers are usually more knowledgable about the requirements for learning and nurturing a profession!  Of course I could be completely wrong in this case!

Why didn’t he give this to them years ago? Isn’t this a parent’s job? I’m in my 20s and if my parents told me this I’d be ashamed of myself. Or I’d disagree because my life’s path is my choice. Some people are a little sensitive.

Smug, horrendous, self-righteous “father” who has probably put the nail in the coffin of his relationships with his children and grandchildren. A real father has compassion for his children- even when they need a harsher word or two. There is no compassion at all in that letter- only his own hatred and disgust. We are supposed to try and emulate G-d and G-dliness. You can encourage success and achievement without drawing blood. He will bitterly regret sending that letter. Hope he is happy dying alone in a government-run old age home.

Take heart. Remember the words of Job. “Though he slay me, yet will i trust in him”. Remember also the words of John 14:27 “Peace I leave with you;my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid”.

 That takes strong character and courage at 16 separating yourself from irresponsible people.Most people including my old drunk self could not do it.I also found out from experience that even irresponsible people that have jobs and work all the time are a poison on society as well because they spread there evil at the workplace and are usually dependent on some type of destructive vice to survive the workweek.

futur   governmant?  america  governmant  is  CRAB!   :            is  so  dirty.    they  take  and  allow   crime  verry  bad  aghost  to  be  yours  head.                     

than  public  enought  blain  stupid   :         ,    you  allow  it  yours  place   your  country  be  a  place/verry  bad  aghost  country  [i  see  bad  aghost  barack obama  still at  there.]

i  see  yours   hell  place  from  here    :

yes   you  do  ,you  forget  many  people  ,many  hero  die   for  this  country

god  will  answear  you   :]

God bless the father that wrote this. He is right on the money.  It’s too bad that many young people in the U.S. who are like his children will probably need this letter, written in English, to be translated for them to be able to understand it.  It’s too bad that this father’s children did not listen to their parent’s guidance while they were young and they have now caused undue suffering for themselves and their offspring. 

Things like this are certainly a sign of the times.  Evil and Satan are getting the upper hand. 

How can we change things?  Well, we, each individual American, need to take matters into our own hands.  Because we have allowed too much of our lives to be controlled by others (in the state and federal governments).  Remember, the love of money is the root of all evil.  It’s not money itself that’s evil, it’s how we view it as too important. So, we have mothers working for families to be able to afford bigger houses, fancier cars and more stuff way beyond what the family really needs. 

We need to live within our means, keeping mothers at home to take care of their families, getting our precious children out of the socialistic indoctrinated public school systems that are brainwashing our children, pull our investments out of the stock market and use the funds to pay off our mortgages because remember all that interest paid at the beginning of a loan?  Pay it off early if you can (skip buying other expensive things you don’t really need) and then you can sooner keep what you would have otherwise paid in interest for yourself!  Etc.

It all boils down to becoming self-sufficient and independent and not allowing governments to have control of us, getting back to the Bible, and having things in order so that when our extended families and neighbors really need our help that we will have the means over and above our basic needs to help them. 

People have been predicting their time as the End Times for as long as we have walked the Earth.  I understand the disappointment of this one particular father, with his own kids, but I mean c’mon how does spewing about the Bible and the complete moral depravity of the country help in any way?

-I mean how the hell do comments like, “We need to live within our means, keeping mothers at home to take care of their families, getting our precious children out of the socialistic indoctrinated public school systems that are brainwashing our children, pull our investments out of the stock market and use the funds to pay off our mortgages because remember all that interest paid at the beginning of a loan?  Pay it off early if you can (skip buying other expensive things you don’t really need) and then you can sooner keep what you would have otherwise paid in interest for yourself!  Etc,” represent any sort of loving, caring progress?
Women should be able to choose what they want from life just like the men, the public school system does not train little socialists, and fiscal sense should be applied, but probably not by pulling all of our capital out of the stock market.

Morons who spew the hate should recall that, “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her,” and I think we have all contributed to this mess…and we will all have to dig ourselves out of it. 

Name-calling doesn’t really help, and quoting the Bible to dedicated unbelievers won’t either. I would suggest showing those who expect to recieve their sustenance from thegovernment through taxation of others who have to work to earn it what a dead end that is. If you try to take from producers to support non-producers, who are thus encouraged to breed more non-producers, you merely guarantee that Malthus will again be proven right, and the non-producer population will crash and DIE.  If you can’t support yourself, sooner or later you are going to lose.

Epic letter?  No, just some guy whining about his kids.  Parents have been whining about their kids since Adam and Eve. 

In response to Paolina. It’s not the government alone, or the media alone, or any one entity alone that is contributing to the degradation of society.  It is those people who have allowed evil to control their lives and they are power hungry, war and money mongering, and they are out to get the rest of us.
Call them Communists, Socialists, Marxists, extreme Muslims, Democraps, RINOs, global elite, or whatever.  It doesn’t matter what they call themselves.  What matters is what they are doing and that they all have the same ultimate goal…POWER.  People who have too much power, just want more of it and they figure out ways to keep regular people in check and get more and more money for themselves.  (As if that’s what really matters in this world.) They are taking more and more control of earth’s population to gain that power.  We normal, regular people, with all our sinfulness, but who reject evil, need to shrug off any apathy lurking with in us and step up to the plate to rid our wonderful world of those people who have allowed evil to control them.  If we don’t do this, we will never be truly free.  God is in control and let Jesus come when he may.  Until that time we have a responsibility to ourselves and to each other.  Now is the time pull our attentions and faces away from electronic gadgets of all sorts and toward each other, family and friends, talk to each other in person about what really matters, communicate to each other about deep feelings from the heart and start the real change that will deliver true hope and prosperity to the world.

People have been predicting their time as the End Times for as long as we have walked the Earth.  I understand the disappointment of this one particular father, with his own kids, but I mean c’mon how does spewing about the Bible and the complete moral depravity of the country help in any way?

-I mean how the hell do comments like, “We need to live within our means, keeping mothers at home to take care of their families, getting our precious children out of the socialistic indoctrinated public school systems that are brainwashing our children, pull our investments out of the stock market and use the funds to pay off our mortgages because remember all that interest paid at the beginning of a loan?  Pay it off early if you can (skip buying other expensive things you don’t really need) and then you can sooner keep what you would have otherwise paid in interest for yourself!  Etc,” represent any sort of loving, caring progress?
Women should be able to choose what they want from life just like the men, the public school system does not train little socialists, and fiscal sense should be applied, but probably not by pulling all of our capital out of the stock market.

Morons who spew the hate should recall that, “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her,” and I think we have all contributed to this mess…and we will all have to dig ourselves out of it. 

then get educated and find a job worth more than 8.90 an hour.  I do not have formal college education but I did not sit around and settle for an 8.90 an hour job.  I went out and found a job paying what I felt was fair and what I was willing to accept.  The jobs are out there if you are willing to look or just be thankful you have some form of education.  I have a friend still out of work and settled for minimum wage and loves her job because she chooses to love it.  See’s it as a stepping stone or just a job until something else comes along.  She is not bitter.  She just learned to live on the income and make it work.  She is a single mom I might add.

 they need to be glad they have a job right now,and as far as what they are getting paid,i go to wal-mart a lot and i have yet to see an employee walking around with a cast on their arm from being twisted and broke to make them take the job!

His comments are probably “spot on” but was he, a Navy Captain, home to help raise these children during their formative years? Did he ever sit them down before waiting this long to express his feelings? He doesn’t even know how his wife feels as he writes this? But because I don’t know their situation, I empathize with them as parents.

Hmmm….very harsh letter, but we don’t know anything about their situation beyond this letter.  We know nothing of the kid’s he’s referring to.  For all we know, dad may have been absent most of their lives and is now judging them because they can’t find a decent job in this economy.  Maybe the kids are working 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs and are still struggling to feed their family and dad is criticizing them, for not having an education, anyway.  We don’t know anything about them outside of this letter.  He did not list any strengths, or encourage them in anyway.  We don’t know the kids financial situation, it doesn’t sound like they have asked dad for any help, so why is he sticking his nose in their business?  There are too many unanswered questions to be able to make an accurate assessment based off of this letter. They may not even have a strong relationship with their dad, and could most likely just ignore this letter rather than “feeling bad about it.” Then again…

I can’t agree more with the letter to said “Deadbeats”. It is the main reason I have chosen not to procreate. BTW you must find a like minded spouse, which I have. Many Blessings.

Why do you keep blaming Congress?  Congress didn’t raise and educate these brats.  Do you even know the schools TEACH them McDonald’s and Wal-mart are beneath them?  Do you even know what’s going on?

I pray none of the “kids” dies suddenly.  This father would never be able to live with himself.  Very unhealthy letter.

Well said… there are many parents who feel the same and yet can’t or won’t express themselves because they are held like hostages by their own children with threats of not seeing the grandchildren which is what makes seeing their children tolerable.
Sad but true. so hooray to the Dad for making his feelings known.

The government has conditioned people into believing such things.  It seems to me that you are being conditioned as well.  They throw all these wonderful new social ideas your way and you fall for it. These people are waiting for someone to ride in and save them, which the government will but there is a price. Nothing is ever free.  As far as education is concerned (which is totally off the radar on this comment), I would
pray that my educators encourage higher education and advancement in actual careers.  I am a teacher and we never teach these sort of things.  It is against policy and sends the wrong message.  I don’t agree with your statement. As far as my opinion goes, McDonald’s and Wal-Mart are great jobs  but that’s what they are – jobs not careers unless you are in a management position.  Now, I am turning the question to you, do you even know what’s going on?

Bravo, Dad!!  Well said.  Now, children, step up and  prove him wrong because with a dad like that, somewhere within you there is found a morsel of useful productiveness.

For the people that work at places like Wal-Mart & McDonald’s; Try making the sacrifice of going to school and getting a higher education to obtain a degree for a better paying job. Nothing wrong with working at Wal-mart or McDonald’s, it’s an honest living, but if that isn’t enough get a higher education and quit whining and expecting a hand out. Businesses are out to make a profit, nothing wrong with that.  

I think “dad” said it right.  There are many children out there that are lazy and not willing to do good for themselves or ‘their’ children.  I was raised in what is now known as the ‘old style of parenting’, with an occasional spanking when I did bad.  Now days, our government has taught our children that a spanking or even being yelled at for doing wrong is a form of domestic violence.   I have seen children who use this against the parents, leaving the parents defensless in how to punish their children, and many have given up.  I have seen children who have been spanked for doing something that hurt others, call 911 and had their parents arrested for child abuse.  The part that they are not told  by the powers that teach our children that certain punishment is bad, is that when they do call 911 about it, a nightmare begins.  Children end up in foster homes, parents end up in jail, and the family is seperated because of a spanking that left barely a blush spot on thier hind end.  I have watched a few families where this has happened, go through the legal hoops of “parental retraining and anger managment” ordered by the courts while the children sit in foster care and wait for the courts to allow the family unit to be together again.  I have seen it take years for this to happen, and when the family is put back together, it is conditional on government overseeing the parents.  I have also seen where the children have given up while in foster care on ever being in a family again and go ‘to the dark side’ for lack of better words, never to come back.  My point is, no matter what, the government is active in our families, contradicting our parenting with brainwashing that teaches the children that they are in control, they have more rights than parents, and that parents have to take care of them or they will be considered unfit to parent, allowing the government to step in and take charge of that family unit.  The government is in control!  This began when the government belief went from Bible based, what our country was founded on, to Darwinism, or survival of the fittest.  Though I am delving into another speach, it is simple, the government contradicts family values, and it is only going to get worse with Obamacare.  It truly is going to be governement controling everything, which will be an Obamanation!

Matthew 7:1 “Judge not, that ye not be judged”. It is not fair that people are passing judgement on this mans children with out knowing the entire story. No where in this letter did it say that these kids were not working or that they are failing as productive citizens, only that they are failing to live up to dads expectations.

I’m wondering if dad and mum said these things to their kids while they were raising them.  It’s too difficult to judge whether dad was away so much and mom didn’t have the fortitude to teach the kids how to be truly independent, or if they did teach them those principles, but kids turned out lazy.  As a mom, I suspect it’s some of both.  How did ALL four(?) kids turn out the same way??

You educate yourself, get out of those menial jobs and start building your life. Walmart isnt something that happened to you, its something you choose…..make new choices.

To JessicaSherwood: What they should do if they wish to improve their lives is gain experience, get as much education as they can, and exhibit enough self sacrifice that the previous two are realistically achievable. The problem is not how much money McDonalds is paying them. It is how much what they are doing is worth. A person can train on the job at McDonald’s to do most of the jobs there in a couple of days, and within a little longer to become completely functional and independent, thus an asset to McDonalds. However, mastering the skills necessary for such a job does not equate to more pay simply for existence. Some jobs pay more than others. I realize that to liberals, the person working at McDonalds as a fry cook is as worthy of the same level of compensation as the physician that saves lives, but government regulation does not, in any way, make that true. Why are physicians, engineers, attorneys, dentists, etc, paid far more than the fry cook? Because that is how society values what they are doing. The government “equalizing” pay artificially will not result in any new TV shows about the drama involved in working at McDonalds. Somehow, shows about life and death decisions that are made by highly compensated physicians (House), attorneys (Suits), and others reflect the esteem that society has assigned these types of careers. The work that is done by the many workers at McDonalds is honorable and commendable. However, interpreting this to mean that it is as valuable as what must be done to master the principles of medicine, law, or other careers requiring many years of education is simply foolishness. You want to know what happens when this is the case? In Communist Russia, when Glasnost began, McDonalds workers made more money than the most highly compensated physician because of governmental pay controls. Why would anyone bother going through the hell of school, sleepless nights, humiliation and debt, only to come out and be told that they will make the same or a little more than a McDonalds worker? Well, we know what happened. Russian medicine is only about 25 years behind most other 3rd world ratholes and very few students want to take on the years of education necessary only to make no money or be able to support a family. On a personal level, it makes no sense. However, until and unless Barack Obama gets his way and sees everyone financially devastated through the punishment of anyone who would be more successful than another, those who work at a place like McDonalds should they wish to progress, need to think in terms of what they offer that is worthy of more and if this is what they are capable of and not more, then that is what they will achieve. Without sacrifice, without obtaining as much education of any type as they can, without offering anything more than the most basic skills, there is simply no justification for this foolishness. Everyone now talks in terms of someone “owing” something to them. What exactly do they owe to their company for employing them? Is there no chance whatever that they could improve their lot through progression through supervisory levels within the company? Because, I have news for you. If they have no chance of doing that, and they refuse to do anything else, then this is their lot in life. It is what they have chosen. Screaming that the company owes them something is simply going to result in McDonalds getting rid of them and trading them out for those who are grateful for the chance to work.

I just want to know, did this Father or Mother ever instill any morals or guidance that including God?  Seeing that they are British, it is highly unlikely.  If these children have to navigate this world today without God, what chance do they have?  Also, I noticed the father said they didn’t ask for help.  Did he offer it?  I think that is cruel to say to your kids.  He raised them.  It’s not like just one turned out this way, they all did.  I would say that has a lot to do with how they were raised.

I wonder as nuclear subdriver ( the highest posting ) how much time he spend at home imagine all the time he must have spend at sea and I am a supporter of the military. If he decided to be a submarine commander he must have known how little time he would have had for his wife and family, to me it is not a fair letter at all! I am surprised Stu was this one sided on the letter Yes maybe the letter makes a point but the critique by Stu is one sided! Where are the kids and wife’s story for all we know she was unfaithful and the kids saw that as an example to follow Who knows, full story please

Mean people suck.

I do not say the end of the world is coming soon. Neither do I know when it is coming. I do hold out the possibility of it though.
I can tell you for sure that America’s fate is sealed. Every Nation in history that traveled down the road we are on has went down. We are no exception to history.
I really love your last paragraph because it is typical of your ilk. You misquote scrpiture or just delete what is inconvenient to your slant. Yes he who is without sin, cast the first stone. Why did you not also mention “GO AND SIN NO MORE”. I don’t think loving progress is killing babies in the womb but then again I recall God saying “I knit you in your mother’s womb”.

So do you believe that of all the complex and extremely diverse messages within the Bible you are capable of determining the will and message of God and to ultimately serve as his mouthpiece on all things good and proper? And what road is that exactly? Nations discouraged with authority, plagued with inequality, containing a culture of intolerance and hate all fall because it makes sense that people would fight back or destroy them. If God deems the US fall I would think it has more to do with squandering
the enormous potential of the country on the self-righteous (i.e. you) than those who seek to improve the lives of others.

I had a son who decided to be an underachiever and to spend his life playing games and living in the world of goth and anachronism. Swords shields and crap like that. He dropped out of paid-for college education to do nothing much but live in fantasy land. 

We have not spoken in 25 years. I know where he is and he knows where I am, but neither of us cares anymore. I will not accept his useless lifestyle and he is probably to full of resentment to not want anything to do with me. So it sits. I did make a coupe of appeals in the past to no avail.

He is a pointless 44 year old on his third spouse (thankfully no kids that I am aware of) and I am a disappointed 69 year old wondering how this could be. Too bad for him … the SPCA will get my entire inheritance.

No, there are many things with scripture I do not understand. Some things are only to be understood until the times for them to be revealed come to pass. There are many things that are very clear though. If you have a problem with one of my interpretations, then please tell me what it is and where I am wrong. I am always willing to learn and be corrected, but when you make a criticism that is broad and not specific, I can only deduce you have nothing to fight with.
As for your other ism’s, once again you are not specific. so I will have to assume by cliche wording’s and talking points you use that you are saying America treated the Indians bad, don’t like gays, don’t believe others have the right to steal from others just because of their own state of poverty, and I could go on and on. If you live in the past of victimhood, your wasting your life and giving power to the old forces of old that you rail against. You are giving them a lot of power and allowing them to rule you from their grave. LOL what a sad lot of people we have.

The letter is spot on. Loved it. Feel bad for the guy. Do wish I knew more of the story though, to make a better formed opinion. 

asybot, My dad worked a lot of hours and missed a lot of things due to earning a living too. My brother and I both eventually grew up to be responsible hunan beings. Any adult who blames his parents for his station in life is merely making excusses.

I have no idea what isms you are referring to but yes, I do think we treated the Indians horribly, the anti-gay rhetoric is ignorant and hateful, and we should remember that charity is important! I am not arguing for redistribution but if a significant portion of the population is living in poverty or has no hope of advancement instability is the result. It isn’t godlessness it’s a lack of empathy and while I also hate the culture of victimhood, I don’t think it’s as pervasive or systemic of American decline as Glenn and the rest of the fear mongers would have us believe.
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While I understand the father’s disappointment, but in reading this I am asking myself a question..all THREE of his kids are like this?  Hmmmm, to me this seems like a huge reflection on the parents, mum and dad.  My husband and I have raised three, all in their 20s now, and there were bumps and disappointments.  But eventually they came back around to the things they were taught.  They aren’t perfect, but they came around.   I know families where one of a few go way off of the path, but all three makes me assume that some lessons were missed in their upbringing.  Am I being too hard on the parents?  Sometimes, we can do too much for our kids and then they don’t learn to stand on their own two feet.  Maybe that was what these parents did. Seems reflection is in order for all involved. 

oh…but this is just the beginning of the birthpangs…you AINT SEEN NOTHING YET…this country is heading for starvation, pestilences, martial law, major natural disasters from one end of the country to the other,and all sorts of fun!!!
Hope everyone knows who their Savior is? God help us…

Our government is using the media and dominating the online conversation to divert our attention while selling us on this last rigged election. Want proof? Don’t take my word for it. The proof is leaked at the link in my name and you can decide for yourself.

oh…but this is just the beginning of the birthpangs…you AINT SEEN NOTHING YET…this country is heading for starvation, pestilences, martial law, major natural disasters from one end of the country to the other,and all sorts of fun!!!
Hope everyone knows who their Savior is? God help us…

Maybe it’s the language barrier (I know, it’s English), but I’m missing something here. Is it that they’re sleeping around making babies everywhere? If so, I get it. But if it’s that they got on the wrong path career-wise and barely making ends meet while trying to get back headed in a direction in which they can succeed, then I don’t get it. The latter scenario describes me, and I’m doing my darndest.

 Lary,

I wish that I could “like” your comment 100 times.  It is effectually well said!  I am pointing out the obvious here: The fact that Jessica’s sentence lacks a predicate gives us a clue to the fact that she feels entitled to more while obviously not being “worth it”.  I taught high school for fourteen years. There is a reason why society will never lack people to make fries.  Our students lack basic respect for others, themselves, and morality in general.  Our system feeds that mind set (which is why I don’t work in the public sector anymore… disgusted). They all think they are going to be Kevin Durant or Justin Bieber. ) :  I have seen kids -who have little to no resources outside of what is basically offered from the system- who have determined to WORK hard to achieve the credentials to make it out of that minimum-wage cycle.their parents were in. More than that though, I have seen many who are taught at home to reach out with expectation of being given (starting with being given GRADES) things rather than earning them.  It’s a core problem that has started in the degeneration of our homes via our flawed belief systems.  Sad, sad, sad…

Is Stu the son of Glenn Beck?

This is my first post so be kind. Also, my post name is in reference to being my husband’s 2nd wife but in military speak I am wife 32. Made me laugh too. Anyway, The letter reflects perhaps a failure to teach children how to solve problems and also a failure to instill the value of taking charge of one’s life and its direction and learning from the consequences. If dad was on submarines a lot, it was likely up to mom to do it all. Mom might need to stop compensating for dad’s absence and just do her best and leave it at that. It’s been said that it is easier to build a child than to repair a man.

The Indians who were robbed are all dead. The people who robbed them are all dead. It is only a victimhood attitude that demands recompense for people who have not been injured.
You make statements about anti-gay. What about gay anti-straight? Do you believe everyone needs to be forced into your belief system or are you tolerant enough to allow others to express their disagreement which you mistake for hate?

It’s not mistaking the tolerance of different views for hate. I also have never argued for reparations or apologies for American’s past crimes against its own people. We screwed up and did horrible things, acknowledging that does not create a culture of victimhood, it’s just a fact. Also I don’t think I have ever seen a “gay anti-straight” position of any kind and frankly I would make the same comments against their hate mongering that I have to you. Loving one another in a sense of common humanity hurts no one and condemns no one, and I still do not think you have clarified the, “Every Nation in history that traveled down the road we are on has went down. We are no exception to history.” What road is that exactly? Are gay rights, pro-choice opinions, and secular leanings such disasters?

Is this where all the losers gather up?

Yes they are disasters. Do you feel that churches should be forced to marry gays? Do I have the right to hire or not hire someone if I own the business and my sweat and blood went into it? “Condemns no one” your words. How about rapists and murderers? No condemnation for them huh? You demand people accept your behavioral belief system and that’s not freedom. I reserve the right to say you are wrong wrong wrong, anytime I wish. That’s not hate. It’s love. The love of God who tells us what is right and wrong. You can go pound sand or whatever else you choose. You are the bigot because you don’t allow me my belief system. I am tolerant and allow you yours, but you cannot tolerate disagreement.

He says “miserable death throes of the fourth of your collective marriages at the same time we see the advent of a fifth”… so obviously some divorce issues.  Adult issues handled without asking for advice or heeding advice of the past.  Just adult children laying their burdens on their mom, again.  It’s not just making ends meet, it’s not planning ahead and taking charge of their own issues, I think.

My father spent a good deal of his working life traveling overseas but we (3 siblings) would never have entertained the thought of ever disappointing him. We loved him dearly and sought out his approval.  We wanted him to like and admire us too.  We knew he loved us but liking us was important.  He banished TV during the week, limited us to one date a weekend, expected completed homework, had a heart of gold, taught us to laugh at ourselves.  Two great lessons he taught us.  Life is unfair, get use to it and prepare ahead and in the 4th grade after helping me get started on a planet report, he got up, declared that it was my work and that I was responsible for my own product. I feel for the Dad above because I know from personal experience that you expect that your life is the example and parental advice is ignored.

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A Letter from the founding fathers as penned by Thomas Jay… can be found at http://www.facebook.com/ThomasJay1776To our American Brethren,We are so disappointed, and ashamed of you:We gave you everything you needed to be successful. Maybe it is our fault. We only wanted the best for you. It seems that unless there is extreme strife, you fall asleep. You were supposed to govern yourselves and be free. You don’t know what “free” is anymore. You don’t govern yourselves; you let someone else do it. You let someone else vote. You are too busy making babies in broken households; getting ‘over’ on each other. You were somehow convinced that taxes are charity and that you need a safety net of Social Security. Uh, lets see… none of that money for security is left. And this charity thing… that money is gone also… where did it go? Do you care? Obviously not. Billions of American dollars gone… and you don’t care.You don’t even know who represents you. Even if you do, you don’t know what committee or Cabinet position that this person holds… let alone the issues. You have not even read our directions for you – the Constitution. Oh, sure, as a child you did because you were forced to. When is the last time you read our instructions, understood our intent? If you had, this Country would NOT be where it is… or heading where it is. This is our shame in you. With all the success of your technology, you still don’t know… because you don’t care…let someone else do it. You are too busy with watching a game, focusing on some fantasy thing. If you would just put as much time and attention into Governing yourselves… We fear it is too late.You let domestic enemies into the Government; let them take over the once-free press. You let them take over free speech. You even help them – self correct your speech to meet their demands, which is plain Sloth. You don’t pay attention! You even let the hold dominion over you by letting them amass power over you. We are not even sure you understand what is wrong. Again, you are giving the domestic enemy dominion over you. You are becoming subjects of a secular religion and don’t seem to care!You had ‘Certain Inalienable rights’, but had no clue. You let them vanish, and didn’t even know it. How easy we made it for you. No one is home. You don’t know what that even means do you? Among them was life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. All gone.The basic tenant was a free press and speech. You were given two simple things to do. You couldn’t even pay attention to that and hold it together! You let it go. What is wrong with you? We told you that this would fail, even how and why, and you did nothing! You could have prevented this, but you got too busy. You have let Envy, Greed and Pride – “THEM” divide you.The only thing you can do is whine and moan and threaten do burn down your own house with secession, without thinking it through; and yet asking your new master’s permission. It is now their house – “They own it”.So, what are you going to do now? Probably nothing… let someone else do it. You are no longer Americans… We wish we could take back the name, at least the United part. But here you go again… playing a ‘rock star’… letting someone else turn the page.We hear promising leaders, it is known throughout the land what to do. We hear it every day. But the voices are too few, too soft. So from this point on, please don’t like our Facebook page unless you are willing to do something more than hit a button on your computer or phone. Please don’t like it just to be a part. You have to be willing to sign your name, stand up and be heard. You have to be willing to do SOMETHING beyond your chair. We have a new Federal Constitution… but won’t release it until you show more than mild interest. You have to be willing to take action. Thomas Jay on Behalf of the Founding Fathers

I had this very face to face conversation with my daughter several years ago.  She hasn’t talked to me since and I haven’t seen my grandsons, but it appears she is getting her life together.   Maybe someday she will come to me, but I’m not holding my breath.  Her and her brother are takers, but now in their late 20′s, early 30′s, they are finally getting it. 

sorry about the flag. not sure what happen.  But I do agree with you about how things are just going to HELL.

Don’t worry, sometimes I feel like flagging myself. I believe God is letting us go our way. It is very possible that he is allowing us to be brought low because the whole world is seeing us debase ourselves. We may very well be a sign to others of what not to do. I also believe God wants Israel to depend upon him alone, not powers on Earth.

I too have finally had this conversation with my 35 year old daughter. It was the only thing left to say. We haven’t spoken since, but, a bit of peace has come to me from it as well as to my granddaughter, whom my husband and I have raised since age 7…now 17…It released us and finally made her life, her complete responsibility… Americas ‘gen X’ youth was truly ‘wasted’  and their offspring lost to the system. My sweet revenge is that my granddaughter is much more responsible and ‘republican’ than my daughter ever was!
Take heart! Maybe the hope lay with the next generation!

Welcome to being part of the problem, masterchief. I’m hoping that you have never been in the military and your name refers to something else, because you have no realistic understanding of the world. Had you been a master chief in my squadron, you would not have remained long as this type of talk is divisive to the mission. Properly directed empathy is completely appropriate, but poorly directed empathy leads to more problems. The biggest problem is that those who claim to have the most “empathy” often have no intention of reaching into their own pocket to prove the depth of their personal empathy, they feel that government sanctioned theft of others somehow makes them “generous” because their opinions are well placed. You do not have empathy, you have a vague sense of “someone ought to do something,” meaning…someone ELSE. The fact that a president with the worst economic record in history is elected to deliver even more of the same perfectly demonstrates that this country has now entered a period of time in which the majority believe that if something bad happens to them, it gives them claim to the possessions of others. Look at what is happening on Staten Island and most of New Jersey. Town meetings are devolving into platforms for screaming, foul-mouthed haters that have an overwhelming sense of entitlement mixed with an overweening sense of “we’re not gonna take it anymore”. The same thing happened during Katrina. Suddenly, the government was Santa Claus and everyone was just as suddenly from New Orleans and collecting thousands and thousands of dollars with no accountability. It’s ridiculous. There is no group in this country that is being actively assaulted, yet, anyone who has experienced a setback feels that it demands more taxation of the “rich”. The only agreement they seem to have on who exactly are the rich is that the entitled know that it’s not THEM. No longer do the majority value negative experiences for the lessons that they teach in self reliance. Instead, hapless, helpless victimhood is claimed by anyone who doesn’t like what someone is saying. Because they are victims, speech not agreeing with them is “hate” and should be suppressed as such. Now, those who should be elevated to platforms of laud as examples of fulfilling the American dream are excoriated for having risen above poverty and become successful. The schools have been quite effective at preaching rhetoric that is not based on successful economic theories, but rather, seems more appropriate under the reign of the “nomeclatura” (Russian for “named ones”) in the former Soviet Union. We are NOT equal. We are NOT all gifted at the same things. We do not live in a system in which there is a fixed amount of resources and wealth in which anyone who succeeds more than another is a criminal for having stolen from those who “rightfully” and collectively own the resources and the wealth. Your beliefs make you little more than an accessory to theft. But, by all means, keep them. I find that those who believe that any setback makes you a victim usually stay right where they are at…whining and blaming everyone else while claiming that success is not possible.

Then, for Heaven sake, go to HER. Apologize for whatever harsh words were passed. Nothing will ever make up for how you will feel when it is too late. Nothing can compensate for the loss of a child, whether due to death or estrangement.

Don’t blame the kids for a lost of this!!  Mom and Dad let the little angels do whatever they wanted when they were little and maybe should have had a swat on the rear and a stern “NO”.  Kids don’t know and somehow have a big problem learning from their envioment.  These evidently never knew right from wrong or what “work” is.  PARENTS take warning, these angels could be yours.

Can’t help but be reminded and saddened by the lyrics of ‘The Living Years’
 
Crumpled bits of paperFilled with imperfect thoughtStilted conversationsI’m afraid that’s all we’ve got…
 So we open up a quarrelBetween the present and the pastWe only sacrifice the futureIt’s the bitterness that lasts…

Hmm…Who raised these kids? and why does he feel entitled to something different than what he got?

Thom?  What is the link to your facebook page mentioned in the first paragraph?  I can’t figure it out and the link is broken.

Chris,

Well, you may have my email now… really doesn’t matter. I would just like to remain anonymous. The link is http://www.facebook.com/ThomasJay1776

Why are you taking goverment hands out/. Is that being part of the nanny state.

I have 5 employees and there payed between 55,000 – 75,000 anually. My Masters is in Compter Science and i also have an a bachelors in Electronic Engineering