Could Texas succeed on its own – yes.

The matter comes down to how long they would have between secession and the full force of Obama gone completely insane crashing down on him. Obama is mad to the core of his being and would love to crush one state completely, in blood and fire and steel, to get his message of ruling the land loud and clear to everyone.

I can put nothing past the madman in the White House, and expect it to be a matter of WHEN and not IF he will strike out and hard at his perceived enemies.

It certainly could if others joined in and cemented the original intent of the constitution.  Imagine Montana, Idaho, Utah,Wyoming, the Dakota’s,Nebraska,Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and even a few more states joined in. 

I just heard something amazing on the radio from a left-commentator: Work is a Luxury and thus all who work must pay more taxes.

Sums up liberal insanity across the board.

Glad you brought up the universities, Glenn. O’Reilly just did a piece on state-run universities and how all the professors are far left. The students get a very one-sided education on our money. Bill said that there should be *affirmative action* for conservatives however Stossel said no, no more govt. regulations even though the situtation sucks.

Seriously, today’s liberals are the most intolerant bunch of people I’ve ever seen.

If you guys do leave these Socialist United States can I come with you guys?

Elizabeth, I have wondered for a long time where the Nazi’s that fled Germany (WWII) had gone, there are rumors that they went to Argentina (including Hitler who supposedly had plastic surgery done, far fetched but a common rumor still).  Now, if the U.S. had not intervened during WWII then Germany would have been much more successful at their evil game.  So if enough of the bad guys got out, learned enough english to survive and took a few years to migrate through South America they might have been able to enter undetected.  A few have been caught here over a few decades, but how many where there?  They would have had enough time to scheme and start deploying tactics to get back at the U.S., especially if they were adept at Propaganda.  Don’t forget there was still a lot of sympathizers of the Nazi’s here (KKK for example).  They slowly find them and Brainwash Them into thinking their way [an underground group not unlike a cult], then they get positions of influence like the Board of Education and start indoctrinating students.  Just like cults they know how to target weaker minds that are easily influenced (hmmm, kinda sounds like the CIA too, and on that same note maybe they got their sons/daughters to get into the CIA to get info and manipulate those in power with that info.).  Over time they work with and/or become Progressives as long as it works towards their goal of bringing down the U.S. in retribution for what happened in WWII.  I know that this may seem far-fetched but look around is this more like the America of the 40s-80s, or more like the early Germany Hitler Took Over With Promises Of Change???

*Note: This post is going to be stored somewhere in Idaho/Utah by the Gov’t via Google, it is pretty basic but could be brought up later and twisted as it suits the Gov’ts need for propaganda or saying that I am not a conformist and need Re-Education…  For my sake I hope I am wrong, but what if I am not?

One of the reasons Texas is getting more attention from socialpunk wanna-be’s is because they’re all leaving the socialist states they used to live because the liberal govt’s in those states suck the life out of everyone there… Saw it coming years ago.
They move here because the economy and the laws suck where they live, make a living and thrive on capitalistic values and lifestyles, then when they get ahead they portend to assert the very life they ran from. The exile from California to Texas has been in the thousands the last few years – look it up.
I wish they’d just stay there.

It sounds like another step into control, work is a luxury and we decide who will get the luxury of feeding their families, and they will decide what education you can have to make sure it goes along with job they decide for you… if not then you will become another welfare drone!

But, even if they did not write it in their Texas Constitution.  That is WHY WE HAVE 2nd Amendment Rights, in case the Gov’t got too big to handle, it was the ones who setup this Great Nation that had foreseen this possibility and gave us those rights!  So that we could take back and sort of reset the Gov’t…

Violence should always be the last resort, but they gave the right to guns/ammo just in case that is our only hope of Freedom From Oppression!

I am in favor of secession. But I have to say that any attempt to actually secede will absolutely be met with violence and devastation from the federal government. If you support secession, then you should do it with open eyes and not wishful thinking. You have to be willing to go the distance. I doubt that 1 in 100 people posting here have the first clue about what secession really means.

Yes, But if Texas became its own state, they could stop people from California going to the state.

I think it -is- actual insanity that is driving the liberal agenda. They are knowingly running the economy into the ground.

I know of no State Government that has petitioned to secede from the U.S. There is a secession movement. I believe the secession movement is a reflection of the intense dissatisfaction with the Federal Government. The dissatisfaction is sincere and the antics of the present administration deserve the critical opinions.
Our Constitution is the property of the American people, not a property of our government. Most of the angst against government, I believe, is caused by the unconstitutional actions by government. We Americans are used to allowing government to make our decisions for us. But, our government is no longer acting on our behalf. It is acting on the basis of a non-existing democracy that is unconstitutional and  undemocratic.
In order to take our Republic’s Government away from the revolutionary philosophy presently driving it, we must learn to use our Constitution for what it was designed to do. Our Constitution is a system of laws formulated for American citizens to control their government for the benefit of all of our citizens. We must use our Constitution in a way that enforces Constitutional laws on government.
If politicians want a democracy, theocracy, or socialist collective, let them step forward, make their case, use the Constitutional amendment process to get what they want; or, put their resignations on their desks and get out of town. 
Any other method of making fundamental changes to our Republic is illegal and subject to legal penalties.
Marvin Fox

Texas would only be the start of a major split.  Once one state takes the leap, more will follow. More than likely the entire Midwest and South would go.

 agreed

I’m afraid it’s too little too late.
The secession ‘movement’ is more of a symbolist action of growing discontent with the feds.
Since Owebama took office he has done nothing but use The Constitution as a doormat while slowly enacting his anti-colonialist agendas.
He’s probably the worst representative of POTUS in American history and has little to no respect for the position or it’s heritage. Let alone the law.
I’m still baffled how he was re-elected.

In response to Bleuze. It could also put an end to illegal drug smuggling and immigration.  It is not that we here in Texas oppose Mexican immigration, it is that we do not wish other nations and criminal elements using Mexico as their entry portal into Texas.  These groups include bad boys from the middle east (i.e., radical Islamists), MS13 boys and girls from Central and South America, and the drug cartels.  Texas remains staunchly within the Bible Belt and Catholic churches.  We could open up currently restricted oil fields and put the oil cartel out of business.  It would be interesting to see how the oil corporations, the electronic industries, and banking industies would respond to a new operating environment.

With regard to a violent reaction from the federal government, Texas has fully equiped and trained military forces of its own (not to mention many veterans and well armed citizenry with the back bone to defend what is their’s) and the right to leave the union as it did during the Civil War, our original agreement with the union was never changed after the Civil War ended.  Texas could do very well on its own without the union – there are many other nations who would be anxious to make trade and other treaty agreements.

I would hope that it will not come to Texas having to take this radical route to survive the demise of this nation.  But never forget or deny that we have the ability and the where-with-all to opt out of the current lunacy.

With so many businesses moving to Texas from Liberal Tax & Spend  states it will be tough for Texans stay away from the abyss.

How Obama got elected, well that is easy.  Like I have been saying, Romney needed at be ahead by at least 10 points.  Obama is a CHEATER and he is well known how he won elections in Chicago.  Remember, you can only get 100% of a turnout and not 104%+.  What I do not understand is why he is not even called on it!  There still is time by asking for a re-count by your Sec. of State at the state level.  Why do you think Obama and his thugs do not want voter ID laws enforced –  http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/

Heck,

I forgot to mention that Obama winning looks like a blowout in the electorial college.  But he only won by 2%.  In most of the swing states he won by less than 100,000 (total swing states only gave him about 450,000 votes)!He knew he only needed 2% to win and not 10%

Beck has taken absurdity to a new level with this bit. Most of the smartest people in the world have degrees from universities, usually the best universities. Yes, there are the anomalies, like Bill Gates, among many others, but they are the exceptions. The people that run the world go to the best universities. They are conservatives, liberals, libertarians, communists. They are the people who design iphones and the Mars rovers and pretty much everything that occupies your daily life. Universities teach you how to think, not necessarily what to think. Sure, there are professors who are passionately ideological, but that’s what it’s all about…that’s what Beck is all about. But you need to read Marx’s Capital, much like you need to read Milton Friedman’s ‘Capitalism and Freedom,’(among so many more) to know what the hell is going on and what the hell you are talking about. 
        It is definitely sad that too many people graduate college and still don’t know anything. That we must fix. But it’s not the curriculum, the liberal biases, the brainwashing of America’s youth. It’s just that most smart people think you all are nuts. Perhaps they are right. And even the smartest critics of New Deal liberalism are usually college educated. Beck reads history books written by evangelical Christian preachers with an OBVIOUS agenda in mind and then inveighs against indoctrinating professors. Scholars at major universities spend decades researching and writing their books, and the smartest arguments get discussed and debated at length throughout the academic and intellectual world. No one thinks they know exactly what happened and how, it’s about interpreting the past, and contributing to a larger conversation of mankind. Ideas are simply metaphors we construct to make sense of the world and communicate it amongst each other. 

And this whole secession thing: he must not be serious. what is texas going to do? who’s going to make up the difference in loss of federal funds in the state budget? State education system? What about all the federal jobs that will close? Can Texas defeat the US in a civil war? Could Texas even defeat Mexico in a war? Who would Texas trade with? 
So, all of a sudden the texas state government becomes in essence the federal govt of a seceded Texas. What do they need to do? Raise revenue? Tax people. I mean, come on, you all are a country in a modern globalized world, you need to elect and PAY leaders, pass laws, import/export laws, labor laws, corporate laws, maintain infrastructure, PAY civic employees, Raise a military? What if if no one wants to join? Conscription? oh that big-bad-mean govt.

Go ahead and secede. Let a few people in Houston get rich from oil. A few bankers in Dallas get rich from financial transactions that most texans have no conception of (except maybe some of those kids at those pesky universities), the rest of you can work at Wal-Mart and steak and shake for a few bucks an hour. (by the way, do you know how much money those universities make the state? those would no longer be “good” schools anymore, anyways, because they’d be abandoned by all the people who didn’t want to work or go to school in a foreign country. I guess you all would appreciate that.) An yes, all of the aforementioned people will probably be working for American companies. Best of luck. 

If any state could go it alone and survive it would be Texas AND they are one of the few states with the guts to do it !  In time other like minded states would join in and form one unit, state or whatever you want to call it.  Leave the Libs on both coasts  and  any other states that wnat to continue on with the never ending “free stuff” to do their own thing. We have the natural gas, oil, coal and clean water.  They can have their filthy, crime ridden cites, while we keep our guns and Bible.  They can have Whoopi Goldberg and their blow !

But never forget or deny that we have the ability and the where-with-all to opt out of the current lunacy.… http://www.youtubeGoogleGetJob.qr.net/jPfD/watch?v=su6YN9gczvM

Texas isn’t going anywhere, but if they did, they wouldn’t have a problem. Shoot they’re one of the only states that can stand on their own two feet without federal assistance, if anything they would probably be better off. I would love to see it, just to see the feds reaction (and all the lefties encouraging it.) Would definitely spice things up   http://www.ficksitall.blogspot.com

*I’m still baffled how he was re-elected.*
2 words- Mitt Romney and voter fraud. If the GOP hadn’t treated Ron Paul like crap and fixed the nomination for Romney, RP most likely would have beaten Obama. Ron Paul (and Gary Johnson’s) was FOR THE PEOPLE regardless of age/race/creed/gender/$. Period. Oh, and RP would have decimated Obama in the debates, just like one of my fave RP moments when he shoved a silver coin in Bernanke’s face in July 2011. Epic.

If TX leaves the US
1-Deny there citizens (except residents of Austin that may be the only normal people in TX) entry rights into the United States2-Build a electric 12 foot high fence complete around Texas guarded by Federal troops3-Do not allow Texas to ship anything into the US except maybe Lone Start Beer 

4-Ask yourself does any state that elected Rick Perry – Louie gohmert and Ted Poe deserve to be part of The United States 

5-Make them repay back the United States for every single Federal Dollar they received in the last 25 Years

Buckie How have the wages of the workers of those companies that moved to Texas been effected ? That is all that matters

All these states leaving the US because we elected a Black President ? Are there really that many Racist still left in the US ?

Don’t be baffled on how President Obama was reelected all you need do if look at the Republican Party platform and Mitt’s Romney’s 47% comment who would vote for that idiocy ?

Perhaps like me, many Californians are Conservatives living in a hell created by the left and no longer want to remain. Texas should have some kind of criteria or test before allowing anyone wanting residency. Honestly, Only a conservative would leave the beautiful weather for the sake of freedom…..liberals are too self possessed to let go of their chains.

Perhaps like me, many Californians are Conservatives living in a hell created by the left and no longer want to remain. Texas should have some kind of criteria or test before allowing anyone wanting residency. Honestly, Only a conservative would leave the beautiful weather for the sake of freedom…..liberals are too self possessed to let go of their chains.

Instead of states defecting, Why not let DC be it’s own country? How much fun would planning be for them?

If you believe that it’s about race, you’re as dumb as Obama. Get lost troll.

 He is a communist. His Family was communist. His mentor was communist.
He is red not black. This Raccccist meme is so yesterday.

If’ it’s not race what is it ? 

President Obama is not Communist His Family is / was not Communist that is just the name the Wingnut Tea Party and FOX News On Air talent or lack of talent as the case may be call him because they have no arguments against his Pro Worker, Pro Middle Class positions

It’s his policies, his ignorance of the Constitution, his hatred of free enterprise, his criminal activities that GWB look like a Saint (No Benghazi under GWB!!), his failure to ever do anything but push an agenda that only parasites could love. Go learn, get a clue and I won’t call you a troll any more.  RACE MEANS NOTHING!!! ACTIONS MATTER!! But the media has you believing otherwise.  I am done here.

 Bill Gates and many others you leftists like to tout are dropouts, feel free to look it up.

I am all for Free Enterprise “Regulated Free Enterprise” Not unregulated where workers have a say in there employment so you need  Strong Unions, Government Provided Healthcare for all The right of Gays to marry (The SCOTUS) is taking that up now. Benghazi Did not the White House request something like $300,000,000 for Embassy security worldwide and were turned down by the US House ?

Nope.  State Department turned it down. Got your facts wrong.  Gov’t has NO business in anybody’s bedroom.

Nope.  State Department turned it down. Got your facts wrong.  Gov’t has NO business in anybody’s bedroom.

I live in Hawaii the Dunhams were known communists from Mercer Island. Frank Marshall Davis has an foot deep FBI file.http://www.amazon.com/The-Communist-Paul-Kengor/dp/1451698097/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354991565&sr=8-1&keywords=frank+marshall+davis

Davis’s FBI FILE
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/davis.FBI.File.pdf
Stanley Dunhams FBI file was destroyed in 2010.

It’s that 2+2=5 mentality. 

LOL — the federal agents can’t even lock down the border we have w/Mexico or Canada as it is now.  You expect them to lock down the border w/Texas and the rest?

Acc’ding to Judge Napolitano, no state has the right to leave the union.  It is what caused the Civil War…Texas was part of the Confederacy.

If a split were to occur, it would be more like that one described by columnist fm Pravda a couple of years back.  The fracture lines would slice betw rural and urban Americans.

May I remind you that Houston is such a crime-ridden city…it’s in Texas.  We Texans are not perfect and should work to change DC before trying to go it alone.  It did not work out when Texas left Mexico.  It did not work when Texas left the Union for the Confederacy.

That would be the more likely scenario.  A new Civil War, but one in which the military would be hard pressed to fight.  In the mid-19th century, units were composed fm states and localities rather than fm all over the nation.  This was a leading reason to intermix the troops, so that one whole town would not lose all its men if the US went to war or that one state would not be disproportionally affected.

I know of no one who gives a rip abt 0bama’s ethnicity.  It’s all about policy and how that is leading us where we don’t want to go — poverty!

Well, in response to the part about large Universities, I would say there is some hope. I’m currently a college student in a Liberal state and even some of my indoctrinated peers are starting to notice the bias. 
Though I would say, if you want to keep us students from falling (even I’m having a difficult time sticking to the Truth with the constant bombardment), then you better start doing something about it. I.e. do any of you railing against progressivisim in the Universities actually care to start making said public U.’s teach the Truth. Or even better, start a new U where you can kick the progressive model to the curb and get back to the original foundation (circa Greco-Roman time frame?). 

If Tx has to repay the U.S. for every Federal Dollar, the the Fed has to pay back all that they have taken in Federal Taxes from the Tx citizens and companies (including Big Oil). 

POLICIES that are bankrupting this country, both financially and morally.  He is for abortion on demand and homosexual marriage.  These are both repugnant and immoral.  He spends Chinese money as if it grew on trees.  This is repugnant and immoral, too.  He chided Bush-43 for spending too much money, then turns around and spends twice that.

He sides w/muslim tyrants.  That is suicidal.

He has sissified the armed forces.  This is suicidal.

He thinks that regulation, not legislation will let him rule instead of govern.  This is unacceptable.

Need me to go on or are you getting the drift that we cannot stand this man’s policies and deeds done!

Words are one thing; it’s his actions that are 180 fm his words that concern us most.

It’s about country stupid. I’ve copulated with every pretty skirt I could bed since I was a teen; AND MOST DIDN’T LOOK LIKE ME.  Back then anyone that didn’t look like you wasn’t welcomed by your parent, and would likely get you a beating for even kissing. 

 I speak fluent Mandarin for a reason, most of my family ain’t White like me. When visiting Taiwan, China, Singapore, Malaysia, and a few other places; language, borders, culture DO APPLY! Ther are consequences for not coming LEGALLY!

Anyone enamored, or fascinated by race, and their eyes only see reality through its color are a RACIST!! Looks like the shoe fits garak99

BTW: Obama is a Marxist! He grew up a half White liberal, insensed by his radical White grandparents, indoctrinated in Anti-American idoilogy. His Hawaiian experience was one where mixed race or inter-racial run the state; AKA “To the Mannor Born” He also attened schools of the priviledged, not native Hawaiians. Frank Davis his only “American Black Exerience” was a known Communist.

If every child born in the US were born into a “White Liberal Household” we would be such a Awesome Country instead of one where Wingnut Tea Party FOX News viewers go around labeling anybody that does not agree with there Racist White Evangelical Agenda as Commies or Socialist

Helen- OK abortion is a touchy subject that we can debate but you have a segment of men that are saying if a woman is pregnant due to a rape that she she should be chained to a gurney and forced to give birth to the rapist baby that is repugnant. 2nd-If people are indeed born gay and it is not a choice you cannot make laws baring them form equal rights to straight people. Are you suggesting that it’s OK for you and your husband, boyfriend to walk down the street holding hands or sitting on a park bench kissing but a gay or lesbian couple should not have that same right ? The President does not stand with Muslim tyrants that is a FOX News made up story like most of there stories are. Finally- Please tell me why gay marriage is immoral and you cannot use God, Religion or The Bible in your answer. 

Texas could be the “light” and “leader” needed to encourage disengagement from the federal government. An attempt was made starting in 2007 to organize a movement in creation of a new state-of-mind “Christian” nation. It was named “Amerijericho,” and it would have consisted of Tennessee and the surrounding ten states. Free barter markets within self-sustaining communities where family-owned enterprises provided “unity” could have led to happier – self-sufficient – lifestyles. Though I believe that anything we attempt to do at this point in history would be too little and too late, we need to occupy ourselves in order to maintain hope. I suggest contacting true patriots in the eleven designated states to make it a total of 12 states when “Texans” move forward. Also, I recommend using “White Horse Independents” as a political organization. Good luck.

‎”Given these facts, secession is equally allowable, since this principle too can appeal to the original sovereignty of the peoples of the states. What’s more, since no power to prevent secession was ever delegated to Congress, and since secession is not prohibited to the states, it remains a reserved right of the states under the Tenth Amendment.The resolution [of 1798] of the General Assembly [of Virginia] relates to those great and extraordinary cases, in which all the forms of the Constitution may prove ineffectual against infractions dangerous to the essential right of the parties to it.” – James Madison, the Virginia Report of 1800.

WOW! Conservative, and incredibly attractive to boot! 

 He talked about redistribution of wealth which is socialism,
You can not gain wealth by dividing it among others.

 yeah glenn’s historical analysis (if you can call it that) is really annoying.

Hell yes, it could survive.  It has all of the best qualities that it takes.  Salt water ports, military, great highways, good economy,  no state taxes ( I would be willing to pay state taxes if we were a stand alone Nation), hard working Texans, fewer unions, mostly conservatives, the right attitude for securing the border, excellent airports, a ready civilian militia  … the list goes on and on.   I would wager that the feds are really sweating this deal. 

Beck you are GD traitor and you are advocating treason. We fought a  war 151 years ago about this subject and guess what? Morons like you lost. What would be best would be, if you just left the country or with your vast fortune given to you by the idiots who want to reach the “stupid” people in this country who buy in to your BS, is for you to leave the country. It could be much better for you than to stay here and get arrested for sedition or treason.

Another fine example of Beck pandering to the those on the fringe of reality; stoking up the fires of resentment to postulate a complete BS idea in order to continue to get viewership and readers of the website. Crackpots have started pettion drives throughout history; some have actually been succesful. Secession–yeah that looks like a real winner. I reckon there are plenty of arayan militia types who will volunteer for your new texas army Glenn. Glenn, why don’t you just cut out that liberal cancer in Austin, do away with the Longhorns and keep the rest of the state for your libertarian on steroids friends? I am sure the leaders of the oil and gas industry and all other true Americans  will be backing you 100%. If I were a third or fourth generation Texan, I would suggest you take your carpet bagging act and get out of town.

Perhaps I missed it somewhere, but I do not find any evidence of Beck or his sidekicks Stu and Pat having attended any institute of higher learning other than the “school of how to get the highest ratings posssible on radio shows by saying outlandish things”. College is not for everyone; countless Americans have been succesful in business, life and in their communities without college. but those who did not attend Universities, nor otherwise seek to greatly expand the knowledge base they possessed as 18 year olds, are in no position to comment on the workings of Universities. Plenty of liberal academicians out there no doubt; plenty of conservative as well. Ever meet with leaders of conservative student groups on any campus Glenn and company?  Contrary to what Glenn and Sideshow Pat and Stu the Clown think, most average college kids want to succeed in business (read capitalism) and get a job out of college to start paying back those loans. They do not have a political agenda and they cant afford to be socialists other than in conversation. How many campuses has Glenn and company visited to discern the leanings of the professors and students? HOw many academic journals have these clowns ever attempted to read?

Blaming the outcome in the Presidential election on those noted radical Universites such as Florida State, UMiami and UFlorida? Are you insane? Have you clowns ever been to those schools? Did you ever stop and consider that the number of Florida residents who are transplants from your despised liberal bastions of the Northeast might have had a bigger impact on the election? Did you stop and consider that Bush Senior won Florida by 100,000 + votes in 1992; Clinton won by 300,000 + in 1996; Bush Jr.only won by 500+ votes in 2000 and about 400,000 in 2004; and Obama won by only 70,000 votes in 2012?  I guess that makes the definition of swing state doesn’t it Glenn and team? Perhaps it has something to do with the individual candidate and how he campaigns? No matter what your politics are, the younger candidate always draws the younger vote– right crack research team of Stu and Pat?  If you had taken a course in political science in college, you might have learned that little factoid. As a dissappointed Romney voter, I sure wish his team had figured out a better way to get to voters under 30; but they failed to do so. It is not indoctrination-it is failure to communicate in the most effective fashion.

Keep spinning your nonsense on stories like this. You will get at least 100 comments to justify the theme.

Haha. Mr. Grimm you get more paranoid and delusional by the day don’t you. As I mentioned earlier I am attempting to do a mini, informal diagnostic on you purely based on your posts and comments. Based on your paintings you are pretty severly out of touch with reality. While I am in complete favor of artistic expression, your cat gallery is quite disturbing. You also seem to have an obsession with Barak Obama. The definition of obsession is as follows: “the domination of one’s thoughts or feelings by a persistent idea, image, desire, etc.” I firmly bleieve this sums up your feelings toward our president. Based on your previous posts it seems that you obviously live alone. Living alone is fine as long as you maintain a healthy social life. Having a social life is an important part of being a normal functioning human being. Based on your post detailing how your neighbor “visciously attacked” you upon Obama winning I came to the conclusion that either A.) this story is fabricated or B.) you actually were attacked. If you actually were attacked I am fully convinced, again based solely on your posting on this site, that it was you that instigated the attack. While it is never right to use violence I imagine your neighbors aren’t too fond of you and I feel like you are somewhat of a pest within your apartment complex, most likely due to your political diatribes and passing out of doomsday preperation checklists. See here is why you are such a laughable character. You post constantly about how insane President Obama is. Every post questions his mental stability but when I compare Obama to you I immediately begin to laugh. Like or dislike his politics, that is what makes this country great, Obama is an accomplished individual. I will also say the same thing about Boehner, and Romney just to give this post a little less political biased. Most politicians at that level are accomplished individuals. They have various degrees, which I know universities are demonized on the Glenn Beck website but it is an accomplishment none the less. When you are able to get a significant portion  of the country to stand behind you that is an accomplishment. Now look at yourself. Please I am begging you. If you believe you are so great. If you believe you are this revolutionary then instead of posting on The Hill and Glenn Beck, run for some sort of postion in your community. Run for treasurer of the PTA, anything. After your long and hard fought campaign come back on here and tell me how many votes you recieved. Barring all votes form imaginary cat/people figures I will bet my life that your grand total of votes will be exactly ONE! Just your lonesome self.

Texas doesn’t need your socialized medicine Obama.  Go back to Kenya.

http://www.marriedtothesea.com/120812/

Once again, we have a right wing nut job pushing some idea that simply explodes in the face of this country’s changing demographics. A bunch of right wing crackers think they are going to seceed a state containing millions of blacks, Hispanics and liberal whites, huh?  Crackpot stuff. You can’t pull off a secession of “just the white guys who hate Obama” in Texas. Then of course, Pat and Glenn have another problem, Texas is full of guys like me, retired Marines who took an oath to “protect and defend the United States”.  If I was Glenn or Pat, who both live in Dallas, I would think twice about leading some secession movement, or you may find out just what that oath is all about.

Pathetic troll. What is next from you? Threats and gloating? Return back to Obama and leave us of this site alone.

The first post from you I consider a viable threat concerning my personal safety I will turn over to the authorities. You are so placed on notice.

A perfect example is the post left further on down to me by a Matt Driscoll, he claims to ‘be doing an informal diagnosis’ of my posts on the site.

That to me makes him a viable threat for one to become so obsessed with a person. Thus confirming the intolerance of liberals such as he.

I am just stating the obvious friend. It is pretty clear to anyone who reads your posts that you are pretty much off the deep end. Not once after the election did I gloat. I didn’t even post anything for some time. I do not believe in that. I also haven’t posted one thing that could be interpreted as a threat so again you are way off base there. While I appreciate your “notice” I must also note that you have a very annoying flair for dramatics. Every post I have made was an attempt to reveal how deranged you are. I have not once threatened your safety. I am all about positive discussion. I am happy to have it with anyone on this site but you my friend are a plague. You spread you delusional propaganda to anyone that will listen. As I have mentioned before I believe everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, as long as it is an informed, rational opinion. You sir have neither of these. Your posts are the rantings of a madman. You are a delusional individual with severe mental problems and I really wish you would seek help. There are many nice intelligent people on this site but you are not one of them. You spread hatred and fear. You seem to consider yourself a prophet and a revolutionary and you are neither. You use dramatic language and archaic words to add a foreboding tone to your posts but any intelligent individual can see right through it. You are a fringe element of this country. Your voice is not heard.

I am just stating the obvious friend. It is pretty clear to anyone who reads your posts that you are pretty much off the deep end. Not once after the election did I gloat. I didn’t even post anything for some time. I do not believe in that. I also haven’t posted one thing that could be interpreted as a threat so again you are way off base there. While I appreciate your “notice” I must also note that you have a very annoying flair for dramatics. Every post I have made was an attempt to reveal how deranged you are. I have not once threatened your safety. I am all about positive discussion. I am happy to have it with anyone on this site but you my friend are a plague. You spread you delusional propaganda to anyone that will listen. As I have mentioned before I believe everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, as long as it is an informed, rational opinion. You sir have neither of these. Your posts are the rantings of a madman. You are a delusional individual with severe mental problems and I really wish you would seek help. There are many nice intelligent people on this site but you are not one of them. You spread hatred and fear. You seem to consider yourself a prophet and a revolutionary and you are neither. You use dramatic language and archaic words to add a foreboding tone to your posts but any intelligent individual can see right through it. You are a fringe element of this country. Your voice is not heard.

… negated by 300 Federal cannon at Gettysburg, the Pennsylvania Report of 1863

Man, does that ever sound like a collection of tin foil hat nuts.

That sums it up pretty well, IMO.

In a word, the answer is YES- so long as the Commie-In-Chief leaves them alone and doesn’t try to blow them off the map after secession.  Don’t count on that, however.   I mean, losing all that revenue could possibly cause him to attack Texas, hoping he could force them back into the fold since they would all need SOME sort of healthcare after he nuked them.  He would count on the sales in order to take more multi-million dollar vacations.

Not to fear, Draxx.  ALL Beckwatchers will be re-educated or mulched.  Including me, I expect.  I personally think we should ALL bail on the Repub party and go Independent.  ‘T’would make us all a touch more difficult to hunt. 

Oh, so, Meghan, how does working from home actually ‘opt one out’ of the lunacy?  Is this by refusing to pay your taxes?  

“Right wing crackers”. So, this is your way of saying you are a left wing brother? Black man? Since I’m white I don’t use the “n” word. Only the brothers and sistas, do. So. Because I’m white, and don’t like the policies of a Marxist, I’m a crackpot. 

How about you Marines being left to die in Benghazi? Hmn? When are going to start protecting and defending our Constitutional Republic? Hmn? 

Siempfer Fie, Marine. This country is under attack from within. Wake up. 

Fuzzy a few questions and a comment Q-If the UK, Australia, Canada and every other country can provide Healthcare to it’s citizens why can’t the US Q2- How the hell do Texans keep electing 1st Class Nut cases like Rick Perry, Ted Poe and the leading Nutcase Wack Job Screwball Louie Gohmert. Comment- President Obama is not from Kenya that was nothing but another FOX News made up story to appeal to Racist

It is not about “ redistribution of wealth” it is like the Occupy Wall Street was all about a CEO making $25,000,000 and a guy on the line making $45,000 being asked to take a pay cut and pay his own Health insurance. That is not right and must be fixed

There is a lot of propaganda out there
on both sides. Wake up people before it is too late.
Or, if that is too hard, stick your head
in the sand.

Beck doesn’t do much for the righties when he suggests that problems arise wherever universities are located…it’s them damn thinkers, not falling in line and doing what they are told by the likes of Beck and Limbaugh, eh? Edumoocation is the prableem, Bubba!

LOL All the states that get net money from Washington are Republican states 

How exactly does a maggot infested traitor like yourself “defend the Constitutional Republic”, you piece of $hit?

You needn’t worry about Obama, what you do need to worry about are those of us who took this oath when we joined the US Armed Services:

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

You traitorous trash who threaten my beloved country, you “enemies domestic” will meet us. We will find you where ever you hide. My guess is both Pat Gray and Glenn Beck are sniveling cowards who never saw military service, probably both rejected due some moral failings, cowards like them love to urge other men to die as they sit in their comfortable homes. If they did serve, they have no honor, they denied their oath to their country and to their God and and any man that does belongs in hell.

I am new on here but,I have a definite working knowledge of the world. Former navy I have been around the world .I drove a truck for 27 years after I got out of the service.I have been to every continental state in the union.People are people .they’re the same anywhere you go .They have the same problems as you and I .Get off the politically correct stuff and think real.Some people forget,our country was founded on christian beliefs.Our currency holds these words .IN God We Trust.Anyone not wanting our freedom .And the ability to not govern yourself,please leave our country.Those who have fought and returned from war ,would appreciate it.

Always the name calling.

You libs always resort to name calling. To shut someone up. I’m sorry. I don’t buy into political correctness like all you libs do. Remember. I’m a cracker.

Translation, for those who don’t speak liberal:

 ”You are pretty much off the deep end” = “You disagree with me”

“Every post I have made was an attempt to reveal how deranged you are” = “Not only do you disagree with me, you disagree a lot, and I can’t tolerate that.”

“I am all about positive discussion.”  = “Come over to the dark side and we’ll chat.”

“Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so long as it is an informed, rational opinion.” = “If you don’t share my opinion, it isn’t worth talking about.”

Remainder of post = “I really have nothing constructive to say because you’ve blown all of my arguments out of the water, and I dont’ know how to use facts and logic, I just feel that you’re wrong, and I hate it that you disagree with me so I’m going to lower myself to the level of ad hominem attacks.”

 Oh, and he knows how to cut and paste, too! 

Glenn, you are a nice guy, and a recent immigrant to Texas.  (No doubt Pat had something to do with it).  But to the point, your attached video is cute (except for the metrosexual narrator voice) and does address some key points.  The “legaleze” of secession doesn’t mean a thing – especialy when things get to the point of the consideration of secession.  Just because the judicial branch “interprets” the Constitution and says “no you can’t do that,” doesn’t necessarily make it so.  (The judicial rulings of such matters, for a large part attributable to Lincoln-esque Yankee policy – but I digress).  Texas doesn’t need anybody’s permission.  Texas does what it damn well pleases.  Yes, the same old “military” argument, revenue, etc. Valid issues but I can give you another angle on them.  Texas has leverage – primarily energy.  95% of the former U.S. gets its energy via Texas pipelines.  We control the taps.  We have two international seaports to export energy.  Energy runs the world, and makes for good bedfellows.  Before secession, international alliances through trade agreements can be established with other “superpowers.”  These new “friends” can exert external international “pressure” on the former U.S. should it dare to encroach upon their new “bride.”  We also have two large bases that are under our control.  Who says we have to give back all of our planes (negotiated with energy leverage).  Who is to say all of the military personnel will want to leave instead of joining the new Texas Military?  For governmental revenue, we just tax every unit of energy that leaves our border to our new customer – the former U.S.  Texas just re-opened a silver mine – (can you say metal backed currency).  There are many other issues to contend with – but ask yourself – what is Liberty worth?  Our Founding Fathers asked themselves that same question.  The payment for further Liberty has fallen on our generation – and Liberty ain’t cheap..

The rubicon has been crossed – the enemy certainly is not giving up until victory.  It is now obvious they smell blood in the water.  Glenn, again you are a nice guy (a little too pacifist for me but.. you do market to the ladies and I understand that, it has its place) and I have listened to you for years; but from my side of the barbed wire fence this Texan would rather be whipped and rolled in a patch of prickly pear cactuses naked and sunburned in the Pecos desert and left for the buzzards than let the Lone Star fall on my watch..

Here are some thoughts Bob Smiley logged about Texas
(with a few liberties of my own thrown in):

–Resources. Texas
currently sits on one-quarter of the nation’s oil reserves and one-third of the
nation’s natural gas reserves. Even more, fully 95% of the country receives its
oil and gas courtesy of pipelines that originate within Texas.
This is what one might call leverage. For revenue Texas
can tax every unit of energy leaving the Texas
border. Texas has also re-opened
a silver mine and will open more if need be . Currency? No problem, Texas
has done that before too. Trade? Texas
has two of the top ten international seaports – and the energy resources to
export. Energy trade makes for good neighbors and international alliances.

–The Texas
Economy. This is well documented but worth repeating. In the last decade, even
with the Great Recession, Texas
has expanded by one million jobs. One million. That’s more than every other
state … combined. Because of its friendly business climate, Texas
is home to more Fortune 500 companies than anywhere else. If Texas
were its own country, it would have the thirteenth-highest GDP in the world,
just behind Canada
and Russia. Or
think about it this way: For every dollar Texas
taxpayers send to Washington,
they currently get only about 80 cents back. Theoretically, they could transfer
those funds to the state’s coffers and still give every Texan a 20 percent tax
cut.

–Utilities. Texas
is the only state with its own power grid. Developed over the course of the
last 100 years, the Texas grid
covers the majority of the state and is fully state controlled. Translation:
Texans could rest assured that the federal government doesn’t have the power —
literally — to turn off their lights.

–Defense. While no match for Uncle Sam’s firepower, Texas
does have a significant defense presence, namely in the Texas State Guard
(which answers only to the governor), the Texas National Guard, the Air Guard
and the legendary Texas Rangers. Texas
is also home to two of the nation’s largest military bases — Fort
Hood and Fort
Bliss — and being able to control
those two installations is nothing to sniff at. But let’s not forget the
firepower of the citizenry itself. There’s a reason burglars don’t waste their
time in Texas.

–History. Texas
has done this before. Twice, actually. First in 1836, when it seceded from Mexico
and became an independent country. Second in 1861, when it joined the
Confederacy. And while the South did lose the Civil War, it didn’t lose it in Texas.
In fact, by the end of 1864, the North didn’t have one square foot of Texas
soil under its control despite many attempts; such as in the second battle of
Sabine Pass where 44 Texans defeated 5000 Yankees. Even a full month after
Robert E. Lee surrendered at the Appomattox Court
House, Texas was
still fighting. Texans love their state and they love a fight. That is a lethal
combination.

“everywhere there’s a major university, you’ve got that problem.”

Bamn!  I hate to use sound words but this is exactly true.  My state is pretty conservative up until you reach university towns then it switches into what seems like a temporary patch of California.   We should end public universities and let them compete in the free-market because why should I pay for some other guys life experience? 

A1: Communism will always find a way.  Do you hate America so much that you want Stalin to come back from the dead?

A2: They vote for what they believe in.  And they believe in the right to vote.  So they vote to vote.  It might be a difficult concept for you, seeing as how you’re clearly voting for the wrong candidates.

Comment: Man-bro-dawg, did you even click the link I posted?  I thought my troll-y sarcasm was pretty obvious.  I’ve tried harder, but I think it might be too obvious this time. In fact, you’re ruining the comedy right now by forcing me to explain the joke.  Which was a pretty weak joke to begin with. Thanks for nothing.
Your’s truly,’Merica

My guess is you are some ignorant toad who was lucky to get out of high school.

My guess is you are some ignorant toad who was lucky to get out of high school.

My guess is you are some ignorant toad who was lucky to get out of high school.

You are a god damned traitor. You are also a racist punk, who thinks you and bunch of other white guys can force millions of Texans who are black or brown to live under the jack boot of your traitorous cause. At the heart of all of this treason is a disgusting racism so common to those of your ilk, who infest Texas they way maggots infest a corpse. The day of the White Dictatorship of Texas is almost over.

You are a god damned traitor. You are also a racist punk, who thinks you and bunch of other white guys can force millions of Texans who are black or brown to live under the jack boot of your traitorous cause. At the heart of all of this treason is a disgusting racism so common to those of your ilk, who infest Texas they way maggots infest a corpse. The day of the White Dictatorship of Texas is almost over.

oooooohhh, so full of hate aren’t you??  so much that you curse God for it.  Name calling doesn’t work as well down here as it does outside our border – most Texans are right comfortable with themselves – unlike some others who have inferiority complexes and just spew hate all the time (hint). 

I have always considered myself a Texan first, and an American by agreement (of which I want to annul – since people like you have destroyed it).  So Texans aren’t exactly “traitors.”

“Infest Texas”?  Yep – my family has been here since the Republic.

“Racist”?  Yep – Texans are more superior than Americans.

Guess what!  I fly the Texas flag as high as yours – and (bonus!) I can still say the pledge of allegiance:

“Honor the Texas flag.  I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one Republic, under God, one and indivisible.”

Yippee Kay Yay Yankee..

Hey, the guy “critten” is right, liberal or conservative, you’re just a damned traitor,  anyone who has served in the military and taken that oath will be glad to tell you that. Bet you never saw a day in the service, did you there, big shot?  I bet there are plenty of loyal Americans in Texas, so I ain’t real worried about scum bag traitors like you causing much trouble, and if Glenn Beck is listening, he just lost another listener, I usually agree with him but this kind of talk just makes me want to vomit, preferably in your face. Advocating the break up of the United States is treason, and those who advocate it are traitors, and the hell with the bunch of you, you just got removed from my radio dial.

First, Glenn’s opinion is his own as is mine. If you truly listen to Glenn you would know his position on the subject matter is much more reserved than mine, so your threat to change the dial is based more on coercion, in hopes he will change his opinion or restrain his first amendment rights just to keep you on his dial number. About the only thing Glenn and I could concur on is that Texas could very well survive on its own if it had to.

The military takes an oath to the Constitution.. protecting the Constitution from enemies – foreign and domestic.  The Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branch repeatedly and regularly violate it and “interpret” it to suit their agenda, making it irrelevant.  Dissention is not just outside of the military.  (If you want to read how many in the military have concerns of the direction of the former U.S., take a look at oathkeepers.org) [No I did not serve in the military, but years ago in the industry I was in, I was trained by some damn good men who were Vietnam Special Forces survivors from most every branch, Seals, Rangers, Force Recons, Pararescues and Green Berets].

America, you have been usurped from within.  You have lost your way; you have sacrificed the values that at one time made you a great Nation. Your government is now an infested burden filled with the stench of rotting putrid tyranny – and we can smell it all the way down here. You have betrayed and disrespected the brave souls who gave their life for you, and have selfishly spent your inheritance. You cannot pass off crow as an eagle.

We are at a crossroad – those of you who choose the servitude of liberal progressivism, we leave you in peace to your folly in the rest of the States, govern as you may. We will relieve you of our conservative way of life and ideology and leave you to your bliss. It is an amicable solution for both. All we ask is to be left in peace.

This is a web page for traitors. Secession is treason, and those who advocate it are scumbag traitors.

This is a web page for traitors. Secession is treason, and those who advocate it are scumbag traitors.

You sound like a total idiot.

You sound like a total idiot.

Imagine we simply shoot all you traitors.

Imagine we simply shoot all you traitors.

Man, I agree with the other dude, you’re effing nuts

Man, I agree with the other dude, you’re effing nuts

The traitors are the liberals who don’t like the constitution, you know the second amendment and the right to be secure in you property. But to another point, I thought you liberals were against guns. Your attitude is why people like me need guns to PROTECT ourselves from the mad murderous dogs like you who threaten people with death. My guns are for protection from the human garbage like you. I am more tolerant than you are, all I want is to be left alone by aholes like you. Thanks for exposing what we already know of your ilk.

I ain’t no liberal, traitor, I’m a Marine who took an oath, and you are some cheken shit who wants to play with bang-bang toys who probably sat home and jerked off when you should have joined up. I took an oath to protect The United States from enemies foreign and domestic. You secessionist traitor trash, well, you come under the heading of “domestic”. My brethren and I will hunt you down, rip off your heads and piz down your throat if you try to hurt my beloved country.  Bet on it.

You are a fool and a traitor. I live in Texas.  I love the United States. I took an oath to protect and defend her when I joined the US Marine Corp. In Texas,  I am not alone.  You on the other hand, are probably some loud mouth who stayed home and played with himself instead of defending your country, and now dream your insurrectionist fantasies that you yourself are probably too much of a coward to go much beyond shooting off your mouth.  You want your own nation?  You will regret you ever tried to get it.

Our founders separated from Britain you dumbass. The constitution also gives the states the right to seced from the union although think it does not.
If you indeed served your country, I thank you for your service. I will not get into what my service has been because I don’t need to tell people to verify my bona fides.
Your gutter language betrays your evil heart and borders on if not in facts is a terroristic threat. But I am confident I can defend myself so I will take your comments as just a person shooting off their mouth. By the way, if you really did serve your country, I would urge you to get some therapy for your mental condition. It’s free to veterans and nobody will fault you because war can easily cause emotional problems with people. I have friends who have needed help and I helped them finacially to keep the govt. out od it.

By the way, I live in a remote location that is positioned for defence and traps all over the place. WE multiples defend it with very modern technology. I think our dogs would like you too. The rest of us would “wink” at ya. LOL

Maggot, the secession issue was solved by a little thing called the “Civil War” were we killed you bastard traitors  by the thousands. Fucking traitor.

Where Oh idiot does it say in the constitution that a state canot seaprate from the union? Might does not make right, but no country has survived what we are doing to ourselves as a country. Liberals have usurped the constitution. Threaten people all you like. I thought about stooping to you name calling level and call you a jarhead but I will not. Have a nice day and please seek mental treatment.

In my opinion Texas should exercise their right to divide up into five states. This would presumably give conservatives 8 additional senators. I would also like a amendment requiring any candidate for national office to have military service with at least a general discharge. Never happen though, the system is overrun with elitists and narcissists who believe they are immune to the rule of law. This is why congress etc. have a special health care plan just for them. Naturally, this plan covers them for the rest of their lives, in office or not.

Dude, if your too fucking stupid to realize that that question was settled by the US Civil War, then you are too stupid to talk to. Go take a high school history class you fucking traitor, and see what awaits you.

The state joined the union on the providions of the constitution and states rights. We did not sign up to be debt slaves. The federal govt broke the pact. ZJust as the blacks of South Africa were right to end apartheid so we here have the right to self-determination. Your continued threats are proof of the reason that citizens need to be armed for protection from rabid liberals like you. Winkin at ya.;)

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors. Glenn Beck is a scum bag traitor

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors.

I think most of the people who want to secede are sex offenders and those with unhealthy sexual desires that involve children, everyone knows traitors are usually perverts too.

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors, not much better than child molestors and homosexual rapists.

I just heard on the radio that secessionists are traitors to their country.

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors.

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors.

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors.

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors.

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors.

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors.

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors.

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors.

your a full on liar and you know it, Marine Corp. ? bullshit !! and if by some very small chance you actually did enlist. I have NO DOUBT you washed out or were otherwise dishonorably discharged. All libs need to get one thing very, very clear, if it comes to armed conflict or a second revolution in this country. Liberals will have a 0% chance of victory, your just not made (mentally) for this kind of thing, I just hope I’m there to stop my associates from the bloodshed that will follow, I will be just as happy to deport you from my blessed Texas !! If you were to return once deported, them a rope would be awaiting you.

Secession is treason and those who advocate it are traitors

You sound like a sick paranoid who needs some mental health work.