I will summarize this Mayan prophecy this way concerning ‘the end of the world’ from the words of Lord Jesus himself…

Mark 13: 32 “But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but my father only.”

As stated by Lord Jesus himself in the Gospels, none, no mortal being or immortal angel, not even Jesus himself knows when the second coming of the Lord, and thus the end of this world will be…ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS.

So it written and so it is to be. 

All who read this are free to make up their own minds, for good or bad, as they choose to do.

So a question to the viewers here: Given the recent hype of the ‘zombie apocalypse’ by the government for their training scenarios, anyone wish to guess if there will be a staged event on this day by the Feds?

I”m sorry Snowleopard but how is one any different from the other? I’m quite certain we’ll all be here for Christmas this year but a prophecy foretelling the end of the world is about as likely as the Rapture.

Maybe the Mayans predicted Obama’s reelection. 

As a Christian Chaplain I hold to the cited scripture above, in that no man, nor anyone save God knows when the second coming of Christ (end of the world time) is to occur.

The scripture also holds a second truth to it, in my opinion, in that many people assume ‘end of the world’ day will be soon at hand or far in the future, and thus there is ‘no time/a lot of time’ to ‘make peace with God.’

The fact is each of us are fated to die at some point of time, unless, again as based in Christian teachings, you are among the chosen who still live when Christ comes back.

As for the ‘Rapture’ I hold it is garbage, it has not been proven by my own studies on the matter in the bible and is a man-made teaching.

In the end, it comes down to what each of us chooses to believe or not to believe. Thus technically, yes one prophecy is as with another, save as one believes in/upon/etc or not believes in.

I hope this answers part of your question.

If they did they are a little off schedule.

Maybe his power grab as god king.

Maybe – it certainly was a tragedy.

Hi Snowleopard:

Off topic, but please, why do you say the chosen are those who remain when Jesus comes back? My mind has been in circles with the called, the chosen, the many, the few, and the remnant. I’d like to know your understanding of this. Thank you so much.

We need to make sure the Liberal left has every opportunity to have what they need on this day for departure into the unknown, meanwhile I plan on having a nice hot cup of coffee on this day first thing in the morning!

Only God the Father knows the when.  Be ready whenever it comes, not to worry.

I will try to clarify:

The chosen I indicated are the children of God who are still alive after the time of the great tribulation and the last seven plagues that God unleashes upon the earth…they are commonly called in the bible ‘The saints’ though this applies to all of Gods people from the beginning of Adam and Eve to the end of time.

The remnant is often spoken of as the people of God throughout history who have lived a life of faith and strove to overcome the world with Gods help.

Mind you, in the case of the remnant, it means those of the old testament who looked forward to the coming of Jesus and unto the cross by faith, and those of the New Testament times (including today) who look back to the cross and to Jesus in heaven by faith as well.

All have overcome, or shall overcome the world by grace through faith in the redemption and sacrifice of Christ, and by living the life that God will have us to live, with His guidance through Christ.

For the part of ‘the few’ this most often is associated with the saying of Christ “Many are called, few are chosen.”

Here God calls out to humanity to accept the offer of repentance and salvation via Christ, and declares that few will live such a life by their choice from first accepting Christ to the last breath they draw in this world.

Now mind you, in the context of the bible, there are those who claim this means only the 144K of Revelations, and they ignore the portions of the bible which states, “and I beheld 10 thousand times ten thousands and millions upon millions of saints without count.”

So based on the biblical term of “few chosen” it easily can mean millions upon millions, or even billions of beings given the total number of humanity alive today, and from Adam and Eve.

I hope this answers some of your question.

Enjoyed your show today loved the wig .. although I did get a little nauseous when you went on and on regarding the zombies, I’m trying to make dinner Glenn  : = |  And snowleopard is correct. There may be speculation regarding the Rapture .. but if people disappear in the Rapture .. then time is limited, better get your act together!  

Thank you for your quick reply, Snow. Gives me more to chew on. I’ll keep praying and searching the scriptures. Thanks again.

OH!  Glenn, I LOVED the show today!  HA!  Such a relief from watching the depressing real-time movie of Communism overtaking our Nation.  Gets REALLY old, really fast.  I sure enjoyed Stu’s silliness, too.  Made me laugh, which is a rarity nowadays.  -You know, I can honestly say I am SO grateful that I was born and raised free.  What a beautiful thrill its been!  Sure wish my Grandbabies could say that,-  they wont be raised free, now that Obama has effectively destroyed America.  – It was on a slippery slope anyway, and all he had to do was deliver the final stab through the heart.  16 trillion stabs, I should say.  But, today was welcome relief from the oppression.  Thanks! -Oh, as far as the end of the world,-  we wont be getting off THAT easily!  Sorry.  Its going to keep on keeping on…   -Do you notice any similarity between the goofballs panicking about the 21st and the Democratic voters? ALL SO silly! Merry Christmas, everyone!

If Mr. Beck were honest, he’d talk about actual threats to human existence and what needs to be done to protect human life on Earth. Listen to someone who’s serious about what’s going to happen to soon if we don’t act to stop this Apocalypse.

Since the Mayans forgot to account for leap year, their calendar is wrong and the end should have already happened.  

How does the Mayan Calendar adjust to 1. leap years 2. Georgian calendar??

dont have to be a prophet to see the end of the world is coming,…..self inflicted by the voters of 2008 and 2012,…..definatly leading to its end

To further clarify:
The 144,000 refers to the 12,000 of each of the 12 tribes of Juda, Aser, Reuben, etc (Israel)…After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues (The faithful Gentiles)

I love your quote from Bonhoeffer. It is as true as it gets. For to not speak out is to condone it.

I don’t know… it’s about 1/2 way between his election and his inaugeration… give or take a few days.

Let it end.  If he does, God is doing us a favor.  He made this world in love, made one man and one woman, he gave us the 10 Commandments to live by so our days would be long upon this earth.  He loved us first before we loved him.  The people don’t know the difference between good and bad, they don’t know the difference about forgiveness and love.  All going their own way as though they were going to live forever. You are going to die, get it, sooner or later, when least expected.  Where will you go and be?    If it ends the way this world is right now, it is best.

I like Chuck Missler’s arguments for the rapture. In fact, Missler and company make some of the best arguments for faith and bible accuracy that I know.

 http://www.khouse.org/articles/2002/444/

I suggest all of you check out raptureready.com to learn about the rapture that is in fact going to happen any time, since no one knows the day/hour.

It’s going to be exciting to see. How many times the world should have ended? It has been predicted so many times by so many factions, but we’re still here. Even the bible is predicting its end, just to scare the believers. Let’s face it, when we die the world ends for us. Whatever happens thereafter, nobody knows, but we can all make believe in afterlife, whatever that is.

OH SHOOT!  If this all happens it’s not FAIR… obama-wan-kenobi needs the next four years to finish his job. 

And heck… Sandra Fluke will have to miss next spring’s Laplander women’s goat castrating ceremony as well.

 The Bible doesnt say the world is going to end. Maybe that is how you have understood it when from those who have tried to share something with you, and you interpreted their fear for your destiny to be fear for their own. But if they are believers then they know the Bible is the good news ( definition “gospel”) of salvation from eternal death.

For all of you who think I favor Republicans, you are wrong.
I equally blame the republicans and democrats for what has
happened to America.  All these clowns, men and women
have voted away America’s future by spending us into
oblivion.  Our children have to pay the price.  The American
people also are at fault.  They have been asleep at the
switch, so to speak.  Too many people do not pay attention
to what is really happening in their country.  
I do not believe that anything drastic is going to happen on
December 21, 2012.  We have been having a gradual shift
of the earth’s axis for the past 12 years.  Earthquakes,
volcanic eruptions, severe storms and now droughts, and
extreme flooding.  Look in your Sunday paper and see the
page that shows all of the happenings all over the world.
Merry Christmas

Right on Snowleopard – you are exactly correct!!!  No one knows – The Lord will come like a thief in the night.  You should always be ready for no one knows…

Don’t worry the rapture is coming just like the Lord.  It is written in Revelations and when the ones that don’t believe are left behind you will know the Rapture has come and gone…

My thinking on the rapture is, in a twinkling of the eye we will be caught up with the dead in Christ and we will all rise to meet the Lord.  To me that is a rapture. 

I’m always amazed at the dolts that buy into this Mayan calendar nonsense. How can you take seriously the writings of someone whose main reserch tool was LSD? Oh wait, Odimwit got re-elected didn’t he. P.T. Barnam got it right. There’s one born every minute.

Saving humanity by limiting humanity… of course, you, Herr Eichmann are among those chosen to decide… say, I missed it, did you tell that last fellow and his family and point

To the left  or to the right?

Gee Whiz… I finally sneak across the border illegally into Mexico for a job plus government social assistance and all I have to show for it is this depressing prediction of DOOM!!!!

Isn’t it possible that the Mayans figured, “That’s far enough into the future for now.  We don’t need to go any further.  We can continue the calender at a later date.”?

Jesus was a Meditation master from India, who grew up in Egypt and Israel. There is no virgin birth, no literal son of God no end of the world. Grow up!

Jesus (Yeshua) was a Meditation master from India, who grew up in Egypt and Israel. There is no virgin birth, no end of the world, just evolution, culling out the really stupid Christians. Grow up!

We can thank God that He is giving us a few more years to get our acts together.The sooth-sayers will continue to set dates, and the believers will continue to fall away, as the Bible predicts. Fear not. God has everything in control.Only those who know the truth and study to show themselves approved will be able to figure out when the end time really starts. It is a mystery to be solved by the called out ones. The ones with a hunger for the truth and the knowledge in His Word. 

If the Mayans couldn’t even foresee their own demise, then why the hell would I believe anything they may or may-not have embedded in their calendar?

This is all nonesence. The Mayans did not believe in “the end of the world” as we see it. The Mayans believed in cycles, this is simply the end of a “long count”, or an end of a cycle and the beginning of a new cycle. Truth is we simply do not know what the Mayans believed would happen, all records have been destroyed or not found yet. There was one incomplete record found, that said “Celebrate 12-21-12″ the rest was destroyed so we dont know what eles it said. Really, this is all hype, and insulting to the Mayans, because we are the ones twisting their believes in our own image to sell books to scare the uninformed. REPEAT: the Mayans did not believe in the end of the world, only in cycles.

This ia all poppycock and hype, that some, (such as underground shelter salesman) are using to make a buck, in the next few days.  The sad part is, that there are some feeble minded folks, who out of fear, will kill themselves quickly, RATHER than suffer a world collapse and all the pain that goes with it.  Watch the huge spike in suicides that will occur on the 20th, …. the day before, the projected doomsday!

 If I believed it, I would get my hair done, buy a nice dress, and NOT do any housework. But the Mayan’s had dates after the Dec. 21 date too.
 Now the Hopi say all that and more is going to happen around the same time. they say we have two paths we can follow. We can stay on the path we are on, or we can plant and live.
 Now I’m not one to jump out there and say “The sky is falling!”, but I am one that farms and gardens, and puts away for hard times. When times are good, you put away for when those times aren’t so good. We do have cycles, you need to make your hay while the sun shines!

It’s a mayan calendar…it’s was designed to kill off the remaining mayans only…don’t worry be happy.

If people really believed this they would give their money away (if they had any) right? %20 of the worlds population believes the world will end (they claim.) People just want to believe this, it’s like a horror movie, people like to get scared and have something to talk about. I did a post on this http://www.ficksitall.blogspot.com/2012/12/should-you-commit-suicide-in-advance-of.html I thought it was pretty funny (and obviously a joke) MOST people either didn’t think it was funny, or simply didn’t get the joke. 

SnowLeopard is correct about there being no rapture. If all would read the word, Christ tells us what we will see and experience before He returns. If we weren’t going through the tribulation, why would He tell us what we should expect?

Understand your sense of resignation to the demons of relativism C1234M, especially at those times I fail to fall unto my knees to pray, and instead resolve to fall prey to what seems to be inevitable surrounding darkness.  This has been common throughout the Judeo-Christian existence.  Likely two of the most depressing examples are: one when at the end of period of the Judges the tribes of Jewry all “did what was right in their own eyes”, then, two as history approached the 400 year intertestimental period when Israel was left seemingly abandoned in an evolving state of increasing ritualistic apostasy until Messiah’s First Coming.

So take heart and whatever comfort knowing believers have always had trials of such affliction to weltschmerz.  And until the play runs its course, an inevitable part of the curse of Fallen Man itself shall be the plight for all who live.  Christians are not and should not consider themselves immune to the effects of the pain, duplicity, evil and chaos of the world.  Our rewards are how we attend to them with Honor and Fielty for His purpose as best as through this ‘glass darkly’ we are permitted to discern them.

The Mayans world did end when they last said (1519) when the 

Spaniards ”conquered” their world (the Americas) in the sense that the way they used to live literally ended. It is not THE WORLD that is going to end. But for sure it is our way of living, the world as we used to know it that is LITERALLY coming to an end. You can laugh at the Fiscal Cliff, at the economic situation all over Europe, the crisis in the Middle East, the constant wars in all of Latin America.. I could go on but…I will only say that four years from now we will look at  our modus vivendi today and say:”Gone…all gone”

Really, Chaplain??  You are quick to hold up scripture.  How ’bout this one?  “Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is about to come on the whole world to try those who dwell on the earth.  I am coming soon.”  Revelation 3:10-11  There are a number of good supporting scriptures for The Rapture besides this one.  Of course, you are allowed to have your opinion that I am wrong despite the fact I have offered you scripture.

What about a President showing up to an Anti American “Christmas” season concert (Pyisy.) sp with his daughters front row.  

Romney failed to Read Dreams from My Father but it might not be too late if more join us united.

poison

 Physical cliff and challenge to Petrodollars at the same time, what would happen?

Nonsense is all you offer. 

Good point – they also believed in and practiced human sacrifice… Why should anything they did affect any reasonable person’s decisions or thinking?

More shiny-object-distractions.

You are a fool. People have a right to believe despite your atheism. You’ve had your opportunity to prove your stupidity. Go back to MediaMatters now and tell your master you’ve done your duty here.

You really missed your calling – It was in the 1930′s in Germany. 

Recall that the “Rapture theory” holds that the saints will not go through the tribulation, though Jesus himself declares it to be otherwise.

In 1 Cor 15 (the entire chapter, but especially v 51-55) and in 1 Thess 4 tells of the dead in Christ being raised from their graves and the living in Christ transformed in an instant ‘in the twinkle of an eye” are transformed.

This will occur AFTER the tribulation and the seven last plagues, and not before – hence NO RAPTURE.

Actually it’s kind of disappointing that the Mayan and other doomsday predictions are just paranoid delusions. The world might be a better place if a goodly number of people were to suddenly perish; the really sticky problem is that it has to be the “appropriate people” that perish. So just to make sure and to be helpful, I’ve prepared a rather extensive list with room at the bottom for write-ins. Unfortunately, there seems to be an endless number of write-ins coming out of Washington, DC and the UN as of late.

I’m with Rory, also Grace is grace and law is law two different covanants.

Whosoever believeth in HIM shall not perish…not believeth and live a good life…

As an avid student of the bible, and in particular Eschatology,  the rapture will happen – it is all over the bible if you understand what you’re studying.  in a study of greek and hebrew you will find this mentioned several times.  the greek word harpatzo is mentioned several times – it’s meaning is to be suddenly snatched away or forcibly removed.  you must have a good  handle on greek and hebrew word study in order to get a broader understanding of what the bible says if you want to go into deep subjects such as this.  and as a matter of fact, there is more than one rapture that has already taken place in the bible – where people “were caught up” into heaven.  we have enoch, elijah, ezekiel, jesus christ, john the revelator, Isaiah, etc. even steven himself saw the heavens open up and saw Jesus Christ sitting at the right hand of the Father –  so the notion of the rapture is not far fetched at all – it is a reality – for those who truly understand bible prophecy and have seriously studied this out, it is very plain to see.  In fact, everything God does in the bible is a type and a shadow – a holy convocation (dress rehearsal if you will).  even the sacrifices in the old testament point to Christ – everything in the bible points to Christ.  Christians in the past have suffered horrible persecution – persecution at the hand of man.  HOWEVER, God has made it VERY clear that the church is NOT appointed to God’s wrath.  The tribulation period is NOT man’s wrath, the bible states it is God’s wrath so the church will not be here for that  but the tribulation is not only judgement for a wicked and sinful world, it is in particular against the Jewish people for their ancient sins and unbelief and to bring them back to Him.  The church is not appointed to this wrath – in fact the church is only mentioned in the very beginning of revelation when Jesus shows up and after that, the church is NEVER once mentioned again. if you study the jewish feasts you will see this type and shadow (of many events in the bible) and if you study the jewish wedding it is particularly eye opening in regard to the rapture.  When Jesus says I go to prepare a place for you, he is of course talking to his bride (the church) – this is exactly what the jewish man does for his bride here on earth – he goes to his father’s house, goes away for awhile to prepare a place for his bride.  when he comes back to get his bride, she does not know exactly when but she is always WATCHING.  he comes with a shout and then they are off to the marriage procession.  sound familar? yes, it is a type and shadow – another dress rehearsal for the rapture.  even the story of Noah is a type of rapture – Noah was not appointed to God’s wrath and judgement against a sinful world.  Keep keeping looking up people! it is going to happen and likely soon…the way things are going, it will definitely be our lifetime.

the remnant are the jewish people – the 144,000 from the tribes of Israel/Jacob.

I agree with you but to me its not the “end of the world” but more to the focus of the “end of civilzation as we know it” this being proven by the condition of our Country and the World. I am a strong believer and I pray every night and day just to make through that day… but with the current situation it is not unreasonable to believe that changes need to be made and soon.. the problem is there is no answer and doesn’t look like we will have any in the near future.. so then where do we go from here? All I can say is continue to pray and try to live a good life… be good to each other and hold fast to your faith.. its the best I can do for me and my family.

snowleopard, respectfully, I’m afraid you do not have a real grasp and understanding of this particular event and/or subject in the bible.  this event WILL NOT occur after the tribulation – otherwise, what is the point?  it doesn’t make any sense.  the bible bears this out all over the place but I don’t have the time to get into a study as deep as this.  either way, it sounds like you believe in Jesus Christ so you too will be raptured whether you believe in it or not.  Jesus will take His bride and as long as you believe in Him, off you will go! int the twinkling of an eye…

A true Richard amongst Dicks.   

The 7th Day Humbling of Mankind – December 21, 2012 – The Beginning of the End of the Age
Amazon.com – kindle or paperback – published May 3, 2012
http://www.spiritoftruth2012.com
http://www.acceptingtruth2012.com

21st first day of winter – 12 years from 2000 – the 7th Millennium – next 40 days will set pace for the Beginning of the End of the Age – New World Order – European Union and Islm – U.N. – 12 World Divisions – collapse of $.

Maybe the Mayans knew Obama was going to be the President waaaay back then.  I would say that they may be accurate in their prediction.  First Obama and then twinkies.  Yep, it’s time to go!

” I don’t know what the future holds, but I know WHO holds the future.”

 dont quote a verse unless you are going to quote the whole chapter. a verse is taking a sentence out of a lesson. which can make it be taken out of context. there are only a few books that you can do that and it doesnt change the meaning of the whole chapter ex: psalms

I have to respectfully disagree with you by adding this. There
is something called a post tribulation Rapture that happens after the facts in tribulation.
 

Jesus said himself in Matthew 24:29-31

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun
will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall
from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in
heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will
mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with
power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet
call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of
heaven to the other.

Paul said here in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are
alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet
the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

Jesus warning all ways be ready for this event. Luke
21:34-36 “But watch yourselves lest your hearts be weighed down with
dissipation and drunkenness and cares of this life, and that day come upon you
suddenly like a trap. For it will come upon all who dwell on the face of the
whole earth. But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to
escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the
Son of Man.”

In the old testament it is mention as well Daniel 12:1 “At
that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people.
And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a
nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone
whose name shall be found written in the book.

It not written down by name but all indications point out
that there will be a mass moving of his believers after the tribulation. The proof
not easy to find but it is in there. 

The “World” per se and as such, yes…The planet on which we reside? Hardly, Hadley. The Lord Jesus Christ has to come back to rule and reign for a Millenium. It will be a different world then. Same planet.

 Sorry again Snowleopard I really wasn’t intending to create a forum for you to have to defend your views on the Rapture, or lack of it. My point was simply this: I find it pretty funny that Mr. Beck can tell everyone to go out and buy guns, food stuffs and convert their money into gold because the world and society are crumbling around them and then openly mocks another culture’s views about the end of the world.

You can easily find 20 other website that are mocking him in the same fashion. Like you say, it all depends on what we choose to believe. In my opinion we could all benefit if we turned down all the mocking and fear building. If humans can learn to treat the Earth, and each other, with respect we’ll all be here a good long while. I won’t be buying a gun anytime soon.

Got Jesus.. so there – I’m prepped and ready..

We know that the end of the world will not be Dec 21, 2012 as Scriptures tells us that no one knows the day nor the hour.  However  in 2nd Kings chapter 20 , King Hezekiah was very ill.  He asked Isaiah what the sign would be that he was healed.   Isaiah said the Creator would bring the shadow 10 degrees backword.  From my understanding, this is when we went to a 365+ day year.  Could it be possible that something could happen that would take us back to the 360 day year which prophecy is based on. 

GOD HELP YOU NavelOrange.

 Rev 6:9-11 show you the people who have been killed for the word of God and the Christ and were told to wait for a little season until the rest of their fellowservants and their brethren  should be killed like they were should be fulfilled.
Rev 7:9-17 people who came out of the great tribulation and washed their robes in the Blood of the Lamb
Rev 12:9-17 the dragon persecutes the woman (israel) that’s all descendants of the 12 tribes who are christians and they overcame the dragon by the Blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony and they loved not their lives unto the death
The dragon was wroth with the woman and went to make war with the remnant of her seed which keep the commandments of God  and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.  God was very clear when He took one of His servants and you seem to forget that Christ comes here to Earth and He rules with a rod of iron for 1 thousand years.  When His Feet touch the Earth we will be changed in the twinkling of an eye to our spiritual bodies (those who are alive) We cannot see Christ of God in our mortal bodies.  Read the whole chapter, better, read the whole book
  

Rev 2:8-10 especially v10
Rev 3:8-1 talking about the same thing
when the devil throw us in to prison and we are in front of him or his army we do not speak but we let the Holy Spirit speak, we do not have the power to fight against principalities, only God and the Christ have the power. This is the hour of Temptation that God will keep us from, this is not our battle is His, our job is to stay faithful to death if that is what it takes, to live forever with the Lamb of God

 To be absent from this body is to be present with the Lord. The moment our mortal body dies our spiritual body goes back to the Father. The dead ARE with Christ. When Christ comes back to Earth and His feet touches the earth we who are alive will change into Spiritual Bodies because our mortal bodies cannot see God or Christ and Christ will be here on Earth for one thousand years and He will rule with a rule of iron and at the end of the one thousand years the devil will be back on Earth to battle again and pick up a few beings (which he does believe it or not) but God takes care of him rapidly and that will bring the White Throne Judgement by God and the 2nd death which is the death of the Spirit

 To be absent from this body is to be present with the Lord. The moment our mortal body dies our spiritual body goes back to the Father. The dead ARE with Christ. When Christ comes back to Earth and His feet touches the earth we who are alive will change into Spiritual Bodies because our mortal bodies cannot see God or Christ and Christ will be here on Earth for one thousand years and He will rule with a rule of iron and at the end of the one thousand years the devil will be back on Earth to battle again and pick up a few beings (which he does believe it or not) but God takes care of him rapidly and that will bring the White Throne Judgement by God and the 2nd death which is the death of the Spirit

This is good news compared to the election!

End result either way is same, no?

I agree Sam.  For what good is Prophecy if not to warn us to prepare!!! &   Not only Spiritually but in all things (survival etc)

I think the Mayan prediction is totally demonic because their religious activities included sacrificing babies to their gods.  I do not think Dec 21st is the end of the world in the literal sense…but it sure is close to the beginning of sorrows which will bring about the Great Tribulation and mass destruction.

We can see things shaping up in the middle east and Israel right now to indicate the antichrist and war in the middle east and the beginning of the New World Order has definitely approached a whole new level of reality and this year could be the kickoff.

When will the bride have the marriage feast of the lamb?  Here on earth?  Also, when will there be that scene in heaven were the 24 elders are around the throne and those who have come out of the Great Trib are also in this gathering?  It appears to be a scene in heaven.  It also says we are going to meet the Lord in the air.  How can that be if we simply stay on the earth.  People wlll get born again during the Great Trib due to the devastation they will be coming to God by the 1000′s.  Also, there was another resurrection in Matt 27:52″ And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose.”  This was when Jesus resurrected the first time and the Old Testament saints in Abraham’s bosom were resurrected.  So, in other words, there are a lot of resurrections.  So why can ‘t we be raptured which is another word for resurrrection before the Great Trib?

I Thess 4:16-17 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

Then we come back with him to rule and reign on the earth when he comes back to judge the earth and set up his kingdom, just as the Old Testament saints will also be coming back with him.

i read my bible it says no one knows nor angels or the lord. but the lord says
on my father knows when i will come. the bible also say the lord will also come
like a thief in the night. snatching up all that believe him. RAPTURE!.