Crowder challenges union thug to MMA match

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Conservative commentator Steven Crowder went to Michigan to interview protesting union members and ended up getting sucker punched four times by one out of control union thug. Glenn reacts to the video on radio today – also, Crowder (experienced in martial arts) has made quite an interesting challenge to the union tough guy. Fight like a man or go to jail.

During a protest, the union members tore down a AFP (Americans for Prosperity) tent with people inside in Lansing. When Crowder went to calmly ask the involved parties to stop, because women were under the tent, he was met by hostile union members who proceeded to yell and antagonize him. As you can see in the video below, things quickly turned violent.

“This is who you stand with?” Glenn said when he saw the video. “Look at this rhetoric. Look at this action. Look at the action. Look at what is happening.”

“Really violent people. These are really, really violent people.”

Crowder issued a challenge to his assailant last night on “Hannity”. “You can come forward, I’ll press charges, you’ll go to jail,” he said. “Or, since you wanted to cheap-shot me, we can host a bout in a sanctioned, legalized MMA competition.” Crowder added the money raised from a fund to find the assailant could go to the union of his choice if he won. If Crowder wins it would go to charity.

But the heated rhetoric doesn’t stop there. On the Michigan House Floor, Democratic State Representative Doug Geiss said, “We are going to undo 100 years of labor relations. And there will be blood. We will relive the Battle of the Overpass.” The Battle of the Overpass refers to a violent confrontation between Ford Motor Company security guards and labor organizers in 1937 Detroit.

Clearly, the progressive tactics outlined in Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” are still in practice today.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    All of those union thugs who did this to Crowder and the people in the tent, and from other stories I have heard, to many police officers on horseback (people using loud bells and whistles to panic the horses into rearing and lashing out at the union-thugs), should be rounded up and prosecuted to the fullest under the law.

    Obama shows his disdain pure and simple for private industry and the Right-to-work laws of the land due to his absolute, gall-filled failure to denounce the violence. 

    Unions are now nothing more than political-criminal syndicates allowed under the law, and who support politically and fiscally the democratic party.

    Jimmy Hoffa Jr was declaring there will be a civil war in Michigan over the matter of this law as well – sedition pure and simple.

  • ThorsteinVeblen2012

    You set up an opposition tent in the middle of a demonstration, you should win a Darwin Award.

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    Who could blame him the cowards tried to attack him from behind as he was trying to help get people out of the tent that the rioters were pulling down on women and disabled people.

  • crazy betty

    is glenn wearing fake tanner?

  • Anonymous

    I’ll bet the union thug doesn’t accept the challenge.  Most bullies are cowards at heart.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000566962714 Sandra Graham

    Why is it that any demonstrations by people who are considered conservative during labor rallies are given carte blanche to be intimidated, harrassed, victimized but during conservative rallies, the left have carte blanche to intimidate, harrass and victimize those attending the rallies?  Oh, wait, never mind, I see, the left are able to intimidate, harrass and victimize at will, while conservatives are supposed to just sit down, shut up and take it.  Why is it that conservatives just don’t give back to the liberals what they dish out?  Because conservatives live by a civil, moral, ethical code which includes obeying the law and liberals live by the intimidate, harrass and victimize, at will, code.

  • mudslide

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  • mudslide

    LOL – stay classy union punks! 

  • Anonymous

    Whether you agree with the Unions or not, lets not forget why they started, exploitation of the worker.  5 Day work week, sick day, child labor laws.  The problem is Union’s have become “for profit” corporations more invested in themselves than the worker.  I myself am a Union member, I also agree with “right to work”.  If you don’t want the help and the protection of the union, thats fine.  Unfortunately what isn’t mentioned here is that if you work in a “right to work” state you can be a non-paying union member, but you still get all the benefits and protection from the bargaining members and the union has to represent you.  I don’t think that is fair or right.  Why should my union dues help opted out members.

    Crowder and Fox got the exact reaction he/they wanted and hoped for.  Poking an angry bear with a stick.  Perfect foder and theater.

  • Anonymous

    Demonstration….???…..more like a hissy-fit-gathering, made up of – out of their prime – spoiled cry-babies – who, together, feed on self promoting instability like sharks. Alone though, as is the case with the hostile idiot who landed a few punches to an innocent bystander, he has been publicly challenged – like a man – to appear alone before cameras and speak up for himself, explaining his childish behavior. I;m sure his Union Steward will send a note from mommy, rationalizing why he fails to appear.

  • Anonymous

     The problem with it is that several Supreme Court decisions from the 1970′s allow them to commit acts of violence and thuggery so long as the union claims that they are doing it for them. In other words, your civil rights don’t count so long as it is a union thug who deprives you of your rights. This was ludicrous, but it is mild compared to the types of thuggery proscribed by unions. This is not unusual.

    Unions are the biggest thugs in the world. They have no qualms about raping their members and then acting as if, somehow, the union members will be “paying” for what an individual person can negotiate. These people are pathetic and so painfully illustrative of the entitlement mentality so prevalent in this country.

    The only people who would lose in this situation are the unions. Their members would make more and pay less. They just couldn’t sit around refusing to work and constantly shutting down the company all while screaming for more pay and less work. These cowards would never go head to head with anyone who could stomp them in any situation other than a mob.

    Sam Crowder should actually count his blessings, though. Every day, he gets to wake up and look in the mirror and know that he’s having a great day because he’s not that guy. The attacker will never get any smarter, never get any better, never grow a brain or amount to anything more than a beer belly attached to a single, desperate brain cell capable only of telling him when he’s sexually aroused and hungry. If you think of it that way, he’s actually pretty far ahead!

  • mudslide

     meh – the union is just throwing a fit because they’re gonna miss out on some of that pie.
    They just need to go home and chill.
    It’s a done deal.

  • Anonymous

    no…. its real tanner….Texas Turbo

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps that is just about as fair as me being FORCED to pay union dues in order for me to make a living and THEN have my dues donated to the opposition party WITHOUT my consent every single election cycle!!!!  You want to talk about fair???  Why is it that “fair” is only an issue when the progressives are whining and crying about it!!  Surely you knew eventually the tide would turn, and you and your cronies would be on the receiving end at some point . . . . or maybe you just thought you could bully Americans til the day the union dies.

    You people have been “poking an angry bear with a stick” for years, and now you ALL will face the direct consequences because we are going to clean up this mess . . . with or WITHOUT you – YOU CHOOSE!!!

    P.S. Bet your guy is a coward and won’t accept the challenge! He looks like a real back-jumper to me . . . . brave when jumping someone on their blind side but a coward when confronted head on!!! We’ll see!!!

  • Anonymous

     Well if the Union Fights a war like they supposedly work, that means there will be strictly eight hours of battle, for a twenty-four-hour period, included with, a 20min break an hour and a half after the first engagement – then its on again for another two hours. After that of course, lunch is served. Now we all know, every union-member is entitled to smoke as much pot and consume as much alcohol as is humanly possible during  that well deserved hour lunch break. Then its off again to re-engage the enemy – you know WE FELLOW AMERICANS, soon another hour and a half has passed and its tea time, maybe the little woman has lovingly packed some Twinkies in the lunch bucket, that certainly would be a rather warm and heartfelt touch, then, its off to once again shed more blood and make war with many of the same people who have lived and worked side-by-side in the exact same communities….WAIT!!!! – did I just hear the whistle blow….till tomorrow comrades….. at eight AM sharp….well, maybe I’ll be running a bit late, so can you punch my time-card

  • crazy betty

    hilarious!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joel.patti.3 Joel Patti

    I BET THE PUNK DOESNT TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE.. HE KNOWS HE WILL GET HIS ASS KICKED WITHOUT HIS PUNK ARMY BEHIND HIM

  • greywolfrs

    So, people shouldn’t be FREE to choose whether they want to be in a union or not. The union should have the right to force people to join if they want a job. What a crock. Unions are out dated. There is no need for a union, especially in the auto industry. Toyota, Nissan and Honda all assemble cars here WITHOUT the UAW. Those people get paid well and have great benefits. The UAW is the reason American vehicles, generally, cost more.

    On another note, I would really like to see this MMA match between this union punk and Steven Crowder.

  • Anonymous

    Are you kidding? This thug will never stand up and be counted. The only time these thugs get violent is when there is a crowd of them around. This yellow skunk hasn’t got the b**ls nor guts to answer to the challenge. This is exactly what unions have become. Is it any wonder why people in general are against unions?

  • greywolfrs

    I hear what you are saying, but where will the wife get the Twinkies from? Maybe she’ll have to bust into the safe at the Blaze to get them.

  • Anonymous

    You’ve hit on something here Turtle. The Unions are supposed to be there for the rights and the dignity of the common working man, but, they routinely deny their members the right to vote, as the hard earned dues paid out each and every month, are gladly handed over to the Liberals – that is, after the cream has been skimmed off the top. Unions were supposed to be there for the betterment of working conditions, but anyone who is found to be in disagreement with their one-sided philosophy, these self-centered-bastards would just as soon break their kneecaps. The Unions have a strict daily regiment of 8hrs and out – with plenty of breaks in between mind you, but the same lot, are willing to stand on the picket-line for days on end, with no breaks if need be.   

    The Unions, are nothing more than a cover for organized crime throughout America, steering this nation the way they see fit.

  • Anonymous

    …not to worry Grey, I’ve got insider information that, the Union has a large warehouse stuffed full of the favorite Hostess  treat, they routinely  use them whenever certain disgruntled members get out of hand…you know….”We Have Vays Of Making You Talk”…as the ever so delicious cream-filled-cake is dangled just out of reach before the victims face.

  • Anonymous

     That is also why foreign cars and trucks are built better, they don’t have the overhead cost of paying 25 or more years, of retirement funds for each and everyone of its former workers.  The money is reinvested back into the auto industry.

  • greywolfrs

    Actually, you are wrong on one count. Those foreign cars are NOT built better. In fact, most cars are the same. The vehivles produced today are not the vehicles of the late ’80s and ’90s. American car companies, Ford in particular, have really made great strides in quality control. Ford is actually one of the best, if not the best, because they owned Volvo. Unfortunately, they sold Volvo, but the valuable data they got from it still shows in their product today.

  • greywolfrs

    Sounds like they are being Twinkie-boarded… ;)

  • Anonymous

    I will agree with Ford holding its own, but as far as GM goes. Take a look around, and see for yourself the rust on five year old models – or newer, of both cars and trucks and the truth of the lack of American quality, can be seen through-and-through…not a pun by the way, just the truth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alex.bury.52 Alex Bury

    From Michigan I have to say the right to work is great.

  • Anonymous

    Yes…but don’t whisper a word of this to anyone…its top secret…shhhhh….

  • Anonymous

    The union thugs are nothing more than an enforcement arm of the Chicago Mafia now residing in key positions in Washington … including in the White House. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EBSV35VGUCZ3KXS32SWJUIC6WU Robert

    Crowder was fortunate he was not badly hurt.  Four large guys as bodyguards.  10-20 more, armed, as a quick reaction force would have made more sense.

    These thugs merit no other consideration.  If it is a fight they want, give it to them.

  • Anonymous

    Your low informed Liberals want violence against anyone who opposes them and there agendas, but I keep hearing that the Liberals will try there best to eliminate football as a sport because they feel it is to violent, what a bunch of hypocrits!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    It’s pretty sick when a State Representative says, “there will be blood.”  I wonder if he was actually born and raised in America?

  • Anonymous

    My question is: why haven’t the Police arrested Crowder’s assailant yet?????

  • Anonymous

    I’m a girl and I bet I could take him… He is probably strung out/drunk anyways off the governments money so his reactions would be a tad bit slow take him by the knees… just take him by the knees. 

  • Anonymous

    I carry a stun gun in my purse….in self-defense, there would have been two or three union thugs taking a very long nap, and since you lose your bodily control functions, they would be pretty stinking and have a very bad headach when they finally woke up.  I think that Crowder did a noble thing, and if the thug doesn’t take the challenge, he should file assault charges on him….you know it is all on video so he can’t deny what he did.  It must have been very hard for Mr. Crowder to contain himself instead of beating the crap out of t his guy, but Crowder did the right thing…had he returned punches, it would just have gotten worse.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carl-Johnson/1515032171 Carl Johnson

    I so want to see him in the ring with the COWARD union thug, wow, it would be the BEST!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carl-Johnson/1515032171 Carl Johnson

     LMAO, SO TRUE!!!

  • BentGhazi

    The union man is in hiding now, and he won’t show up. His union people will keep him from showing his face and prevent his arrest as long as possible. 

  • BentGhazi

    There was no stick. Crowder simply asked them to leave the tent alone because there were people inside of it and the mob was doing their best to bring it down on them. Unless of course you consider telling an out of control bunch of jackasses to stop threatening the safety of the people in the tent a stick, there was no stick. 

    The thug went out of his way to attack the first person that got in his way, and that person was Steven Crowder. Crowder did not defend himself with violence and proved he was the only man involved – the union pig proved he was far from being a man.

  • BentGhazi

    You attack a tent with women and disabled persons in it who had every right to be where it was – (permit required!) – and you deserve a Darwin Award. But what else can we expect from a flagged leftist troll like you?

  • Anonymous

    Good question DenverKitty, especially when say, a crime that took place somewhere in any given American City, can be recorded on cameras from a bank or some other business establishment, from across the street, can be used to obtain said perpetrator  into police custody – asap…the unfortunate answer you are looking for sadly, is found in the reality that the unions run today’s America and have, since the early 60s – actually from the 40s, but the sixties were when the US Government reached out to the mobs (Unions) to help them in their dirty work, of getting rid of JFK, they have been given free reign to do as they please ever since. Today, the union members are brainwashed into believing that the unions are there for their protection, but to the contrary, they are there to collect cold-hard-cash so as to further their political agenda. Obama knows exactly how to manipulate these thugs – that is – until they are no longer useful or needed. When the power in DC thrusts the Unions aside, that is when our fellow Americans will for the first time, realize how badly they have been played and from day one. Unfortunately, the resulting chaos will result in civil discourse such as which this nation has never realized before. It will be the end of us as a people, mark my word…Z

  • BentGhazi

    That’s right – the people rejected their ballot initiative to legalize forced union dues on healthcare workers which they wanted to be a state constitutional amendment, they lost, the law was drafted to stop these kind of ballot initiatives from ever being attempted again, and now they are all chapped because they were outmaneuvered by the opposition to union domination. Poor babies….  Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

  • BentGhazi

    Here’s why unions are bad for  America and business - 

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121210/AUTO0101/212100439/1121/auto01/Chrysler-reinstates-workers-fired-for-drinking-at-work

    Two days ago this story was reported at The Detroit News. The workers in question were caught on video by a  local TV news station drinking and smoking pot on a lunch break, and returning to work. Caught on camera, but the union arbitrator forced Chrysler to reinstate them after they were terminated for being intoxicated on the job. 

    The only mistake the reporter made was not calling the police to the site. 

    This is an example of why the unions are being rejected in Michigan. 

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately the Detroit News backed Obama – who also by the way, backs the Unions. It is true though what they reported and very factual, I’ll give them that, but the truth be told, the auto industry was Michigan’s most profitable business, other than that, the State heavily relied on tourism and sports such as fishing, hunting, vacationing etc.

    The Big Three faced a dire circumstance long ago, that many other American major cities are realizing today, that is, Liberal management and the political correctness that goes along with it. There was soon, an apparent need to outsource their business elsewhere to other States simply to stay afloat. But after years of spending good money after bad, the Big Three finally caved to the Union big-wigs and bureaucratic government protocol. 

    After that sad turn of events, many here in my home State, couldn’t get out of here fast enough. That was when a notorious saying was made famous here….”Last one out turn off the lights”

    With what has been happening here in Michigan over the last few days, proves to me at least, that the situation will probably get much worse in the days and months to come.

  • Anonymous

    You know i really look FOREWARD to the time when one of these UNion people push this crap to far and people who are dying of a horrible disease’s go into these crowds and show them just how very precious life is getting shot in the leg has a strange effect on a bullies psychy’ and when dying jail is not a worry  maybe the next UNion member who think’s he’s bobby bad ass will think twice before throwing haymaker’s but i highly doubt it because they are so stupid they think that there brother’s until it’s time to bump another brother when work get’s slow.
    You all  think your free but in your UNion’s you are nothing more than a number to another number .
    I pray to GOD you all figure it out you shouldn’t have to fight for work,if it is a crappy place to work then DON’T !!!!
    So when you go to your UNion job remember your UNion is really your BABYSITTER!

  • Anonymous

    Oh I’m not arguing that the Violence is unacceptable, immature, uneducated and wrong.  100% absolutely!!!  I hope that they’re held accountable for there actions.  Both parties had the right to be there, and free to demonstrate and protest.

  • Anonymous

    So you missed my point, I did say I agreed with “right to work”. Look at your Union contract, you can have the % of your dues that goes to political support removed and have no contribution made on your behalf to any political party.  I opted out with no problem or issue.  I see my dues as a tax, and like my federal and state taxes, I want to know how they’re being used, so yeah by all mean be non-union and non-bargaining, whatever.  That should be your right, I don’t think its fair for Due paying members to support non paying members.  Isn’t that the same as what people are saying on this forum about their taxes.  If you read what I said I hate these huge Unions they have totally forgotten why they were founded.  Ironically its capitalism that fuels them, money and power. Collective and represented workers, to protect and make sure people aren’t get exploited, its so far from that now.

    Lets not forget, when you call 911 the police, the firefighter and the medics that risk their lives, are all union members.  So lets not brand Union workers as cowards or destroyer of America,
    P.S.  He ain’t my guy, nor really a representation of guys that I work with.  An uneducated thug who uses violence, I hope he is charge and arrested.P.P.S  The stick, the microphone, the camera, the internet whatever…  Crowder is happy with the outcome, it looks great for him he gets his air time, their entertainers for god sake nothing to do with news and reporting.

  • Anonymous

    “The Unions are supposed to be there for the rights and the dignity of the common working man, but, they routinely deny their members the right to vote, as the hard earned dues paid out each and every month, are gladly handed over to the Liberals”

    Not true.  Call your union, you can get a full breakdown of how your dues are used and opt out of having any of dues go to supporting a political party.

    “these self-centered-bastards would just as soon break their kneecaps. The Unions have a strict daily regiment of 8hrs and out – with plenty of breaks in between mind you, but the same lot, are willing to stand on the picket-line for days on end, with no breaks if need be.”

    a few stupid actions do not speak for or represent Unions, same as the bigot view of a few Tea Party member don’t speak for that movement.  Those Self Centered Bastards, Cops are Union members, firefighters are union members, paramedics are union members.  They were really self centered when they ran into the twin towers, and spent weeks pulling people or bodies out of the rubble, looked how they got treated afterwards.

    “The Unions, are nothing more than a cover for organized crime throughout America, steering this nation the way they see fit.”

    Agreed, some of the larger one are.  Money and power they’re incorporated organizations, self promoting, bloated and out of date, their like any other company, money, power and survival.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GW6ALM3N2YFTOT6TN3GZGAHQG4 Frank Balcer

    It is not smart to assault anyone, or destroy private property when there are cameras around because that can be used against you in the court. it’s called common sense, which these people clearly do not have.  

  • Anonymous

    Unions once were useful; they had a legitimate purpose. Unions today represent everything that is wrong with America. They are nothing more than part of the entitlement culture. They suck the life out of industry. Unions are probably the number one reason—right after government regulation and crippling taxes—that jobs and businesses have gone offshore. Unions have killed American manufacturing. Unions now are nothing more than mafia controlled criminal enterprises supported by thugs who run in packs like wild dogs; they survive on violence and intimidation. The states where the unions are strongest are the states that are drowning in debt, financial failure and infrastructure rot. It’s especially time for unionized government jobs subsidized by the taxpayers to be laid to rest. This insanity has got to stop.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GW6ALM3N2YFTOT6TN3GZGAHQG4 Frank Balcer

    I believe that would be obstruction of justice, and aiding & abetting to a criminal, which would be o.k if you’re on the left. but if We do such a thing We would be the ones being looked for & getting arrested. that would be doubled standards, but the left ignores that fact.  

  • Sandie

    Union-bots are much like Obama-bots.

  • Sandie

    LMAO!

  • Sandie

     We used to joke about FORD – standing for Fix Or Repair Daily. Every Ford I had was like that too, so I stopped buying them.

  • Sandie

    Like honor among thieves?

  • Sandie

    The thugs are too stupid and greedy to realize this.

  • http://twitter.com/MelindaWLerma Melinda W. Lerma

    If you think of it that way, he’s actually pretty far ahead!http://youtubeGoldenJob4.qr.net/jUvE/watch?v=CTtf5s2HFkA

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000187060326 Susan Karkoska

    We were the same way, but we bought a Ford Fusion two years ago and absolutely love it.  Ford has definitely improved!!

  • Sandie

    Now that is heartening!

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    lefty mob schlock.

  • Lioness

    Right to work will make unions work for their dues, and that’s just great. I’m not sure how valid your statement is about unions covering those who do not pay dues. I would not agree with that, as I would prefer a direct contract with the company. From my experience, I haven’t met many unhappy non union employees, which seems to be quite the opposite response I get from the union members, including close family, who despise the unions they are/were forced to contend with. I definitely believe we have evolved pass the union crutch. Business owners have to compete for quality employees, just this alone makes them accountable for their actions not to mention all the labor laws that exist. My only question now is, as a right to work state, can business literally break free of their current union bondage? Perhaps when the contracts end? My sister can’t wait to get out of her union, she rather have her dues go towards a better health care plan.

  • Anonymous

    Our president of all Americans is quick to condemn the slightest aggressive comment by a TEA party attendee. The TEA party caused Gabby Giffords to be shot, don’t you know. Pelosi shed a tear on television over the violent racism of conservatives. So can a liberal explain their silence about numerous violent assaults by union members against innocent people over the last four years?

  • Anonymous

     You bring up some valid points Lioness. I’m not sold on the idea either of non paying dues ‘members’ standing side-by-side in the workplace without having the same sort of hate-filled reactions as what has been witnessed in Lansing.

    Today’s business world is practically begging for good help. I myself, am a small business owner and it is very difficult to find reliable help. I’m also aware of several non-union companies, that offer their employees great incentive packages – in turn, that  results in happier workers who will do the best job possible. Both company and employee, work as a team and for the growth of these businesses – its a win-win situation.

    I feel, like you, that with as many work-place-laws on the books, along with OSHA regulations, unions are no longer needed. So with that in mind, it does make one wonder why the unions fight so viciously to retain membership, there is only one reason and that is political expediency. In other words – legalized Mafia. Which begs the question, how deeply embedded are they within American government?

    From the way it looks, breaking away from the unions for most companies, will be next to impossible, that is, without a bloody fight.

     

  • Anonymous

    The unions have been established using fear and intimidation, certainly a member might have the choice to opt-out of having his particular dues go to any given political candidate, but the overwhelming majority of all unions willingly vote Democratic, for the two entities have been in bed with one another, for far too long and to separate their good fortunes now, especially today, in this one-sided progressive PC world of  America, hell, things couldn’t get much better.

    One of the talents of Mafia and Political ilk is, cooking the books, so don’t bet on your union dues not being used for political reasons even if you personally, have opted out. Either way, you are only another unwitting useful-tool.

    Guilt by association – yes many hard working Americans – such as police, fire, ambulatory, are predominately union…that agreement alone, makes them as bad as those thugs who routinely use brute force to achieve their goals, by not publicly speaking up on behalf of numerous innocent victims. If these public outbursts were to continue – as is the case every time the unions do not get their way, which history has proven they do, then why are our police, fire etc still associated with said union. 

  • Anonymous

    I saw a deal on Fox News that had construction union members outside an apartment complex blaring a baby crying at the tenants because a non-union contractor was doing improvements there. They claimed nobody could stop it because it was their first ammendment right to complain.

    How ’bout, on a tenant’s complaint, the cops come and cite them for disturbing the peace, and arrest them for failing to diburse when ordered (lawfully) to do so. Nah. Couldn’t happen.

    By the way, when the TV crew showed up to interview the union boss he agreed to stop the beby and replace it with Christmas music!

  • Anonymous

    When are you Sung Ming Moon, Moonie thugs going to take your Korean gangster third world hatred scams back to your slimy Korean homeland?  

  • Anonymous

    Scam artist!  When are you Sung Ming Moon, Moonie thugs going to take your Korean gangster third world hatred scams back to your slimy Korean homeland?  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YMJUHF4UNZWSLIDRXPSSTOHA3Q Shane

    That thug who attacked Crowder was probably a political science teacher at a public high school. These union scumbags are part of Obama’s and the Democrat party’s base. All Americans should have the freedom to not join a union! What we need is The National Right to Work Law: http://righttoworkcommittee.org/rprtwa_petition.aspx

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YMJUHF4UNZWSLIDRXPSSTOHA3Q Shane

     Huh?

  • Anonymous

    Union thugs = 1930′s brownshirts. In the end hopefully the same thing will happen to their furor (leader). For you young government school grads that don’t know history, look it up on your I-pad.   

  • Anonymous

    A real man can take a hit.  Crowder’s a good guy.

    As for this match . . . charity?  Do it for the troops?  Special Operations Warrior Foundation?
    :)

  • Anonymous

    to shane moonie,

    Are you out earning Moonie points for whatever kid of Sung Ming Moon is now your Dear Leader by spreading your sleazy Korean hatred in America? Go back to Korea.

  • BentGhazi

    I have never seen a US President disgrace himself and the office of President of the United States in such a blatantly preposterous manner. He is without a doubt the worst President in US History.

  • BentGhazi

    Unfortunately, the unions had the people there who got violent, and I think they secretly knew that there were people among them that would.

  • Anonymous

     You get it blackwingA520, unfortunately many of Americas youth couldn’t tell you what Benghazi stands for…let alone what just happened there recently.  

    Never before in the history of this nation, has there ever been such a divisive President. Many conservatives write this abrasiveness off and chalk it up to inexperience, that may be true in part, but I fear – especially after educating myself on his past and where Obama comes from. Most could care less, but who were the people most inspiring his young mind and during his college years, who were his closest friends and mentors. Today, the very people this man surrounds himself with is very telling.

    We Americans are not used to this sort of thing happening right under our noses and from within the halls of power here at home, we think, we are much to smart for a governmental takeover, especially coming from within. Most of us do not realize, it has already happened before in the 1960s when JFK was assassinated, but very few are concerned with that history today and if they were, the following coverup after the removal of an American President, made it nearly impossible for the real facts to come out. Then, along the months and years that followed, anyone who knew the truth and started talking, they were soon found dead with several self inflicted shotgun blasts to the back of the head – suicide of course. That serves the sole purpose to intimidate and it works very well. Today, 50 years or so later, major facts in the case, have raised to the surface and have been made public, but at this late hour, most who were involved in that gruesome murder, are either to old to prosecute, or dead – furthermore, most Americans could care less about what took place so long ago, let alone, as you have suggested, would they know, or care about anything related to the infamous “brown shirts” of the 30s. The very thugs who helped gain Hitler the power needed, to become the worlds most feared individual.

    The unions of America, fill the same roll exactly, a political tool of yesteryear. My gut tells me – also, after much investigative searches of my own – that something big is in the works here in the States. Obama, frankly, doesn’t care one way or another, how the coming conflict gets started, but realizes, it is a necessary step for achieving his ultimate goal. Lets face it, the Democratic party heavily favors a One World Order, the Republican’s do too, maybe not on the same levels, but George Bush Sr  and Jr, both favored this growing world view.

    On the other hand, Obama isn’t stupid. Think about this for a moment. He (Obama) happily goes along with whatever pleases his Liberal base, including the unions, but the necessary ingredient – the implementation of civil unrest, is a must, before he can advance on to the more important portions of his diabolical plan – the takeover of the United States of America.  

    Race War is his ultimate aim, so far, things are going much better than planned or hoped for – Hollywood couldn’t write a script so generous – it wouldn’t be believable!. But, Americans it seems, are more willing to be duped than previously thought.  Tell them what they want to hear and then, as quickly as the words flow from your mouth, go off and do the real dirty work from behind the privacy of locked doors back home in DC.

    After reading “Dreams From My Father” what I have said here, is not far-fetched in the least. Again, think about this…who in their right mind just five years ago, would have given this no-name community-organizer half a chance in hell, of ever becoming the worlds most powerful man, the President of the United States, but here he is.

    Luck certainly played a large part, but now that he’s here, “why not aim even bigger”, and so far, at least from what I’ve witnessed these past four years alone, everything about this mans actions and deeds scream out to one and all, that what I have put forth here may not be that far from the truth.

    Obama has plans alright, for a New World Order….as long as he is in charge.

      

  • Anonymous

    Opening statement: in my view, unions outlived their usefullness and forfeited their legitimacy several decades ago, and have become the holding pen for those who want to work the least in this country. I have experienced it firsthand from being conscripted to join and pay dues as a teenager in the Amalgamated Meat Cutters Union; to later in life being involved with construction projects delayed and completed overbudget; to a friend’s business and home being attacked by the United Steelworkers during  a failed organizing drive (for a business that had absolutely no connection to steel). I lived in Lansing and Detroit and was appalled at the stories of workplace sloth told by friends and family members who were in the UAW. I now live in Pennsylvania where the Philadelphia trade unions control city elections (Judges and Ward leaders; state reps and the like); and are the principle reason that the spectacular Pennsylvania Convention Center loses conventions to other cities. ( you cannot even set up your own easel or screen for you DVD/slide show–Sorry that is a mandated job for that guy snoozing in the corner–General Laborers Union ). Never understood the mentality that I am entitled not to work while I am being paid. The only place I encounter that is the unionized work force. Attacking the AFP tent, (even if it is paid for by the Koch brothers, the conservative equivalent of Beck’s favorite whipping boy, Soros) is a prime example of the low life mentality that prevails in that work force. If the union can force you to join, then the Union will own you.

    At the same time, Mr. Crowder is a prime example of the pseudo journalism that contributes to the disintegration of the dialogue in this country. Everybody has a camera; everybody has a website; everybody has a Twitter account–yet none of us are having a meaningful dialogue, and few of the new era “journalists” have the intellectual talent to discuss anything except on a superficial level. Crowder clearly went to the rally to get footage to boost his career. Was it a Fox cameraman with him? Who knows? Is he pleased with the outcome of his day in Lansing? Sure, he was on Hannity on Fox and his website and Twitter has been exploding. Did he cause the confrontation? It does not appear  that he did. But was he reporting or confronting? I’d vote that he was confronting an already hostile crowd in order to get footage of really pi—- off Union workers. Should he be surprised that he got sucker punched? No–that is what has always happend in this country along the picket line.  There is no reporting going on here and if you listen to the audio of his camera man, it is all anger and commentary. When the “newsman” becomes the focus of the story, then the story has lost its integrity. Now, safely ensconced in an interview with the biggest blow hard on Fox, Hannity, he issues a challenge to fight the Union guy. And for this he should be applauded Glenn Beck?

    Just another step down for Western Civilization. Pseudo guerilla journalism has manufactured another story. 

  • greywolfrs

    FORD – First On Race Day.

  • greywolfrs

    GM was actually doing better when they weren’t Government Motors…

  • BentGhazi

    I think this will play out in the district court, and there’s an abundance of evidence to prove who was guilty.

  • BentGhazi

    Or dishonor.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Skyler-Sneathen/100001205612843 Skyler Sneathen

    I have always been in favor of completely outlawing unions. Use the Patriot Act against these workers, try them as traitors.

  • Draxx

    That must be the Twinkie Whisperer…

  • Sandie

     Ignore him, he’s a troll and says the same nonsense to everyone.

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    I read some of his comments there must be no one home in that head of his.

  • Sandie

    Ahh so you like dressing up as a woman. Go be stupid somewhere else loser. Try one of the leftist sites – you will fit right in.

  • Anonymous

    It must therefore be considered, that Obama’s actions are deliberate and his intentions are singular….to bring down our house…The United States of America.

    I’ve been logging on pjtv.com Its some straight forward, hard hitting commentary not seen on many sites – If you haven’t checked it out, do yourself a favor and log on. Bill Whittle is spot on, the man should clearly be in politics, he is crystal clear when it comes to rational thinking.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like you’ve got yourself a real top-notch fan, if you need to barrow some ‘flea and tic spray’…just let me know.

  • Sandie

    He’s a troll from the libby sites whose purpose it to harass and distract people. You can ignore him or tease him. In any event, he has nothing to say that makes any sense and just shows what a useless person he is. He probably thinks he is really giving it to “those righties” doing something “really cool” … LMAO! It’s not even up to the level of Dork.

  • Sandie

    Not any that I ever owned, or anyone else I knew! LOL.

  • Anonymous

    Moonie scam artist! Don’t you think you have earned enough Moonie points for whatever kid of Sung Ming Moon is now your Dear Leader by spreading your sleazy Korean lies and hatred in America? Go back to Korea.

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    I bet he still lives in mommy’s basement. No I don’t think I will join in I get enough babble from my two year old nephew and it is more mature.

  • BentGhazi

    Of course it’s clear what Obama is doing. He’s got the mainstream media running interference for him, so the majority of the people in this country who are not concerned about current events only pay attention to who Justin Beiber is, and what Psy says. Many of them will not awaken until all that is left is burned out hulks littering the streets and our great buildings are reduced to smoking piles of rubble.

    I’ll check that site out. It’s clear we have to look elsewhere (places other than the cable and broadcast news media) to keep tabs on what is going on now.

  • BentGhazi

    Unfortunately, I think you are correct.

  • Lioness

    My family endured an experience that makes me loath unions. My dad worked for a unionized company for 20 years. The unions demands became so ridiculous that the business could not sustain itself. The company broke the union and moved out of this country and none of those employees ever received their severance pay. Originally based in Detroit, the Mohawk brand of liquor still exists but not as the prosperous company it once was. The union was a joke, my dad remained a scab until they officially closed and was offered work with the company even after they moved, but we couldn’t move out of the country. He was an excellent employee and did not deserve to lose a great job and his severance because of that horrible union. He continued his work for a non union company before he retired and received excellent benefits with a simple contract between the employees and the company. Most on the left will assume that the corporation was just greedy and did not want to properly compensate the employees. But that was just false, my dad had a lot of salaried friends in the company and he understood the dire financial situation, yet the union did not care. Part of the whole thing had to do with supplying free hot lunches vs. free sandwiches. Just that cut alone would have really helped the business maintain itself, yet the union fought every little cut, ultimately leading to everyone loosing their job. There isn’t too many jobs out there that supply free food these days, it kind of reminds me of what’s happening with Hostess/Wonder bread. Same stupid, people with no concept of the overhead.

  • Sandie

    Yes, he probably still is living in her basement in his soiled panties in his stench, drool covering the keyboard and ejaculate encrusted screen from the many hours and years of patronizing the porn sites.

  • Sandie

    Yeah, Obama’s Labor Czar and others in that area are all very strong pro-union people.

  • Sandie

    Being that police, fire, etc are public secto employees paid by tax money, they should NOT be allowed to have any part of a union. Even FDR warned of this back in his day.

  • Anonymous

    One of the few things FDR got right. It is somewhat difficult serving the general public, who are looked down upon by the union bosses, when its the unions, you owe your loyalties too.

  • Anonymous

    No doubt…. It was a disgusting mess.

  • greywolfrs

    Look up the Ford GT40, the Ferrari Killer as it is known. It won the 24 hours of Le Mans four times in a row, from 1966 to 1969. It was designed to beat Ferrari, who won the Le Mans the previous 6 times and is the only ALL American made car to win Le Mans. It all happened because Enzo Ferrari was going to sell to Ferrari to Ford, but backed out. That made Henry Ford II quite mad, so he went to a former Astin Martin designer to design the GT40. The GT40 lost horribly in 1964, then Carroll Shelby took over and the rest is history…

    On another note, the Ford Fusion is up for car of the year AGAIN. The Ford F-series trucks are the best selling trucks 34 years running.

  • Anonymous

    It say’s right in your dues, (i’m paraphrasing)t hat the union will use a portion of your dues to help support and campaign for candidates that reflect the same views as the union. If you wish to not have your dues contribute to this check this box.

    I won’t argue that there is corruption, but as to being in bed with candidates and such. Is that any different to large corporate lobbyist that spend money backing their candidates, you don’t to opt out if your a share holder.

    Guilt by association – yes many hard working Americans – such as police, fire, ambulatory, are predominately union…that agreement alone, makes them as bad as those thugs who routinely use brute force to achieve their goals. by not publicly speaking up on behalf of numerous innocent victims. I have a problem with that comment, this are there the people that will risk their live to rescue you without question. Those are hard working Americans as are nurses, teachers, the folks that fix our roads, build our building etc etc…

    We live in changing difficult times. I don’t like this blue/white collar versus suits class war that has started and amplified by the media. Those thugs aren’t the majority, nor do they speak for the majority. Angry and mob fueled, it only takes one idiot and thing escalate, like a tea party member with the racist banner, that was showed across the media.

    I believe that their need to be a union revolution inside the unions themselves, they’ve lost direction. Lets not forget that Unions got us the 5 day work week, help end child labour, help get the family medical leave act and wage equality across gender. All important things.

    We need a new breed of union leader, to help with this direction, I would encourage anyone that is un happy with paying dues or their union, to get involve in it and help change it that what I’m doing..

  • Anonymous

    The nation has suffered way to much by means of the “stupid people” who are in charge of negotiations on behalf of the unions, verses the common business owner.

    Its ridiculous to expect a pay increase every time the business increases its company sales, that is the best recipe for stagnant or no growth at all, thus, the company becomes a slave to the dictates of the worker, brought about by the exploitations of organized crime…otherwise known as the union.

    I can understand if the company is willing to profit share, the working base never has a problem with that, but if they are willing to go that route, then they should also be willing to share in the companies loses, if that were the case…that is precisely what happened to Hostess, they simply ran out of funds to pay the demands of the self-centered union workers.

    As I said before, many companies have figured it out…that the unions are the fastest way to go out of business. So the average incentive packages in many small and large non-union companies is in many cases, much better than what the unions offer through forced negotiation. Plus, the workers come to work and are prepared to work, the harder they work the more cash in hand at the end of the week. The union breeds slackers and crybabies. I did some trim-work years ago for a guy who owned a seasonal business. During his off-season, he would work driving a forklift at the auto shows, he told me that he would have to wait for more than an hour sometimes, to find an electrician to unplug a simple extension-cord, before he could deliver his load, now aint that a load of bull. The unions have all but destroyed this nation and now, Obama has the peddle-to-the-metel and he’s steering this nation toward a fiscal cliff.

  • Anonymous

    Its shocking and disturbing that the very people who back the unions and Obama’s destructive national and foreign policy, are the very ones who love most, the comforts this nation has to offer, never giving one obscure thought to the burned out gutter of a nation, that lies in our near future…simply mind boggling.

  • Sandie

    Perzactly!

  • Sandie

    I don’t care who wins on the track. I don’t buy a car to drive there. I still have my 1987 D150 pickup. It won’t break any speed records, and the few repairs it has needed I can do easy enough. I guess I’ll keep it a while longer.

  • Anonymous

    Come on Winston you’re smarter than that. There used to be a day in America when a simple handshake was as good as gold, now I know those days are long gone, but when people (union workers) start believing everything written down in black and white there lies the problem, has anyone ever told you, that you can’t believe everything you read…even your own union contract. It is painfully evident that the unions are in favor of the liberal democratic machine, so they take your dues that you have paid and simply use them (or that portion)to pay themselves while everyone else, who are in lock-step with liberal philosophy, there dues are the ones that go to the Democrats. Its called cooking the books. Don’t tell me that you’re so naive as to think that the billions of dollars collected each year, aren’t used for a self-serving agenda.

    It has been brought to my attention that FDR never intended for the public service sector, to ever become unionized, lets face it, they are paid by the taxpayer already, whom by the way, they supposedly owe their loyalty, not some fat cigar-smoking union boss who could give a rats ass about them personally.

    As far as the Teachers union – that’s the biggest farce yet. This nation has been led away from its founding principles, as a direct result of unionized teachers sucking up to the party line. Our children could care less today about morals and ethics, instead, they are taught that mankind derived from the sludge from the bottom of the ocean and that gay marriage is simply an alternative lifestyle, my ass…these ruthless pricks should be run out and hung. Give me a break! As far as “those folks” as you refer to them, the road workers are a bunch of lazy SOBs…if that isn’t the truth…explain to me why every time I drive across country in the summer months, why there are always five or six orange capped gentlemen starring down in a hole being dug by one union worker…oh, that’s right worker safety, in case the dude becomes exhausted, they are there to eeg-him-on. Is there no end to the stupid people who claim to have all the answers?

    For every one example you can give for Tea-Party discourse, there are literally thousands of times the unions thugs have been caught red-handed by cameras, by unionized police forces and almost every time, no one is ever prosecuted.

    If you believe in Union Reorganization, then you must be alright with the growing trend across the states, who have voted for the right to work. If anything, that will force the unions to reorganize, but we all know what reorganizing in the unions means and that is a call for war…union war. That is how they reorganize each and every time.

    We now have publicly elected officials and high ranking union officials, calling for blood and rioting in the streets…is that your idea of a good thing. That is what a growing census of non-union-workers throughout this nation are fighting against this very moment.

  • Anonymous

    I’m liken that word…might I barrow it from time to time. just kidding…Z

  • Anonymous

    Nostalgia is great and often grossly inaccurate, handshake was golden, hmmmmm. maybe. I know my dues pay the wages of Union bosses that voted differently to me, its their right and private right to vote anyways they choice. The Contract is also legal and binding, so not the portion of my dues that would go to voting with the union I don’t pay, infact my dues are less becasue of it. Of course unions are democrat and vote that way, why would they vote differently. Walmart vote republican are you surprised???? I’m well aware of union beauocracy and bullshit, I hear it, read it and witness it. If you want to change it you have to speak up in your union, not with rhetoric, but with common sense and with an open mind. If you look why Unions where setup it was because the unskilled worker was getting abused, and I mean seriously abused.

    Teachers Union, I know a lot of teacher, teachers that use their money to pay for school supplies that the school district can’t pay for, I’m not talking paper and pencils, I’m talking soap and toliet paper. So with regards to Morals and ethic, I have no problem defending a teacher, I myslef have help, sponsored and support my friends and their students.

    If you think the world is 4000 and that dinosaurs and humans high fived until and women ruined it. The yes I am worried for our future.

    I have no problem with people wanting to opt out of the union. I 100% support it. You just do not and should not get the same deal as due paying members, which by law mean the union has to pay the costs of arbitrating a grievance for a non union member. How is that fair to union due paying members.

    Unions do and still have a role in our work environment, not in their current state, but in a sensible, slim lined fashion to protect worker from being exploited. Capitalism is awesome, but it’s a fickle beast with a insatiable appetite.

    Have you ever seen the barbara Kopple documentary “america dream” about the meatpacker union. Its not perfect, but it does document the beast and its appetite in affect.

    Some of these union leaders are as corrupt an hypocritical as the political on both sides of the bench. Become involved, its the only way to make a difference.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GW6ALM3N2YFTOT6TN3GZGAHQG4 Frank Balcer

     Ford backwards : Driver Returns On Foot

  • Lioness

    Aint that the truth! And we’re in the back seat holding on to the “O-$#!T bar” for dear life! (if you haven’t heard the slang, that’s the little handle on the roof:):)

  • Anonymous

    Think about this when you scoff at nostalgia. Every single time throughout the history of mankind, whenever nations draw up peace contracts…then know, that war is immanent.

    Id rather trust a handshake, verses some crafty double-talking lawyer who assures me, that everything is legit within the confines of the multiple page contract, which just as well, be written in French. Either way, its a matter of trust and who can afford the better lawyer, or in the case of nations deriving peace-pacts – such as Germany and Russia in the opening hours of WWII, it boils down to who has the bigger gun.

    The union has held the uncontested luxury of owning the bigger gun for far to long – now its time to get rid of the organized crime outfit and do what is right for all the people – that includes – we the people. There are now enough laws on the books protecting workers rights along with OSHA regulations – plus, several businesses today, have figured out that their companies actually grow with leaps and bounds, when they freely offer their employees a fair days pay, for a fair days work. Many of the incentive packages are similar, or even exceed what unions offer…and without all the dues or the infamous annual strikes.

    When the unions can show that their interest is for all the people of America – instead of only the liberal Democrats, then maybe – just maybe…but probably not…I might give them more respect, but there are to many backdoor deals regularly cut between greedy politicians and power hungry union bosses for that ever to happen. 

    If there ever was a contract we Americans should abide by, its the American Constitution, which by the way, the political left has all but thrown away. Socialism is the agenda of the left and the Unions routinely donate millions to the cause, again, guilt by association.

    The way things are going in the country today and how off track Obama’s policies are, both here at home and abroad. Inflation will kill us all…I guess thats one way of getting rid of the unions…that’s about the level of his thinking process anyway.

    I will agree as far as the rule of law goes, that is the only way to direct any successful nation – especially a capitalistic nation – will unions be able to remold themselves…time will tell.
     
     

  • Anonymous

    let us not forget about multiple airbags – they’re called OSHITBALOONS – that’s what many, who have had them burst in their face say anyway.

  • Anonymous

    You know the unions have ruined America.  When I was younger, I can remember my Dad being in the union for the Railroad.  They never were mean like this – it was a time when the union really cared about their members.  Now it is all about the money and that the dues will not be coming in.  Of course, Obama isn’t going to say anything to this because they are the ones who got him reelected.  I wonder just how many of the votes were legitimate and how many deceased voted this time around again.

  • Anonymous

    Keep you chins up and let’s take a stand and get rid of all of them!!!  From the top down.

  • Lioness

    :):)

  • Anonymous

    Zerogon, you’re right. Many on the site seem to think that the union thug that assaulted Mister Crowder is going to be held accountable for that action. He won’t. In the 1960′s, the Hobbs Act was ratified and put into law. This was the document that allowed the unions to form, how their strikes would be handled, etc.. However, there is a loophole in the act that has allowed the unions to force those who want to join their ranks to pay union dues in order to be allowed to work at some establishments. The loophole was challenged all the way to the Supreme Court in 1973, because unions were winning cases by claiming that the loophole in the act gave them the right to commit acts of violence and extortion in order to achieve the aims of the unions. A sharply divided court handed down what has become known as the Enmons Decision. In this decision, the supreme court affirmed that violence and extortion committed by unions is exempt from prosecution so long as it is committed by union members on strike or through a union protest. This is the result of liberal judges who see themselves as members of both the judiciary and a legislative body that also trumps the executive branch. Instead of being proper strict constructionists (which the constitution requires) that interpret existing law, they see themselves as crusaders, activists who seem to believe that they are defenders of the common good, even if it means depriving another of their civil rights at the most basic levels. This has resulted in union violence on a scale that is simply ridiculous. This decision needs to be revisited and unions should be held as accountable for actions that are clearly illegal in any other setting.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, he was…union infested America. He can’t be prosecuted for this either. See my other posting for the legal reasons why. This is ridiculous and if a conservative were EVER to say something like this, they would be charged, guaranteed.

  • Anonymous

    Thorstein, you do realize that you’re an idiot, right? What if liberals set up a tent in the middle of a Tea Party rally? They would be perfectly safe. How do I know? Because it’s happened! Therein lies the difference. Liberals always talk about being being the party of “tolerance”. That seems to be code for, “We will kill you if you don’t agree with us 100%”. The so-called tolerant left in pathetically incapable of tolerance and absolutely capable of violence whenever they come together in large numbers. Does this happen in conservative gatherings? Have there ever been liberal protestors at conservative rallies? You know the answer to all of those questions. No conservatives ever attack these morons, no matter how much the threaten to rape children or kill any of those of color at those events for “betraying” their people. The hypocrisy of your words is staggering, but not surprising.

  • Anonymous

    Winston, I’m really getting tired of hearing that we still need unions because otherwise, employers would immediately begin mistreating employees. Of course, it’s okay for the unions to do so, isn’t it? We are 30 years past the need for their existence and all they do now is exploit their members. If the product they are offering is so attractive, then why do they insist that the law should allow them to force private company employees to join the union in order to hold a job? Why is it that they uniformly oppose voting through closed ballots? Simple because they know that then, they wouldn’t be able to extort, threaten or kill effectively. In most cases, where there is a closed up or down vote in a company for union membership, the unions lose. So who are the oppressors here? They use the same tactics as the mafia; in fact many of them are OWNED by the mafia. There are absolutely no companies left in the US creating sweat shops and the law prevents just that from ever happening again. I don’t care why they started…their usefulness is over and their only purpose now is oppression and thuggery in pursuit of forced dues that support illegal and illicit activities. It is the UNIONS that couldn’t care less if they put 18,000 people out of a job rather than give some concessions in negotiations in which the unions, even knowing that Hostess faced full on bankruptcy and dissolution, were demanding a 30% increase in wages. But hey, Obama follows the same script and it’s obvious that he’s your guy. Union protest always involve acts of violence and intimidation. Anyone who tries to justify the existence of unions by referring to work conditions prior to the 1960′s is just plain foolish. The contention that a person who privately negotiates their own terms of employment is skating in on benefits obtained for them by the union is a lie. That person who chooses to not be part of the union is free to enter into their own negotiations that will be based on individual merit and company policy. They are not scabs who benefit from what others are doing for them.

  • Guest

    Real classy

  • Guest

     And where do you live?

  • BentGhazi

    I am not Thorstein.

  • Anonymous

    Unions were founded on violence. Nothing has changed. Organized crime still controls the AFLCIO and other unions. They, the union leadership, don’t want right to work because then they would have to compete for business. Where ever Right to Work has become law Union membership goes down. Without members the unions lose money because they lose dues. Most people when given the choice chose not to belong to a union. They have come to realize that #1 they don’t have a say in where their money is spent. #2 when a strike is called they will never get that money back and #3 when unions have  competion in the market place businessmen will chose Non union workers because it costs less. Everythting and anything made by unions costs more—- automobiles,steel,etc. The reason why many manufactures have gone overseas or to Mexico is because of Union cost. It is just cheaper to make it,build it, assemble it someplace other than the USA. In the long run the unions wind up running the businesses they are involved with through intimidation of a strike, controlling wage increases, costly benefit packages that cause the business to raise the price of their product to pay for the union demands. Look at prices where ever a Union is involved. Of course these thugs are mad –they will have to go to work for a change and they don’t like it. They will lose their free ride and can’t stand to even think about actually having to explain to someone why it costs so much to hire union workers. They haven’t had to answer to anyone for years. Yes they will intimidate,commit violence and a lot worse when they deem it necessary.

  • Anonymous

    Jimmy Hoffa JR better be carefull they still haven’t found Sr and never will. If you get out of hand and don’t tow the union line they will displine you Or Your family! There can be only one voice— in the union there are no disenters. Not if you want to stay healthy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/NevelP Patrick Haley

    I dont know dude,  You didnt look like you knew how to duck a punch very well, He might just whoop your ass again and then where would we be? 

  • Sandie

    Just telling it like it is, no classy intended as it relates to a no class troll.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for the info, much appreciated. I was going to respond to you earlier, but the deadly results of what mankind does to one another, took priority over any other thought my mind could contemplate. (the massacre of innocent children in Ct)

    This nation is in a really bad place right now…we’ve got bigger priorities than simply balancing the budget…again, thanks and God bless…Z

  • Anonymous
  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    I am not talking to a drive by coward who deletes his name when posting.

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    buy  them,give  them  mannoey,than  you  will  have  them

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Desy-Nurul-Azkiya/100001601301792 Desy Nurul Azkiya

    :[    stand   in  line,not   sopose   bad  a ghost  barack  obama  at  there  he  is  crime  country.  who   can  do  this  job  is  people   love  america,people  can  work  for  all  public   not    anly   want  monney  public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Desy-Nurul-Azkiya/100001601301792 Desy Nurul Azkiya

    :[      many    people  dont know  if  mast    always  numbering  one  is  about  many  people   ,is  not  own self .  scond   is  owns  self   is  the  one  people  employee   public  :[   can  work  for   many  different  people

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Desy-Nurul-Azkiya/100001601301792 Desy Nurul Azkiya

    when  somebody   want  being  sosialis?   people   give  owns  life  and  family   to  country?  :[    pray     from  many  people   for  this  people.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Desy-Nurul-Azkiya/100001601301792 Desy Nurul Azkiya

    employee   public  dont  know  about    public   make  me   so  upsad   :[   ,they  make  mess  free  country   :[   .  free  country   from   many  life  hero.  they  die  for  you.they  leave  family   for  you

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Desy-Nurul-Azkiya/100001601301792 Desy Nurul Azkiya

    i  do   passed  the  true   than  hard  try  to  remind  you  all  :[     ,i  know   make  many  people  upsad   :[ ,reason    only  try  to  safe  you  all ,i  can  not   see  happening  :[

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Desy-Nurul-Azkiya/100001601301792 Desy Nurul Azkiya

    make  me   more  upsad   stupid  governmant  do  job   ><            :[

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Desy-Nurul-Azkiya/100001601301792 Desy Nurul Azkiya

    the  truth   job  is  they  work  for  public,but  they  not  work  for  public   ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Desy-Nurul-Azkiya/100001601301792 Desy Nurul Azkiya

    for  what  they  at  there?  they  only  new  baby  never  fill   fight  and  hurd   to  die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  they   dont  know   and  dont  care   how  much   ill   :[

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Desy-Nurul-Azkiya/100001601301792 Desy Nurul Azkiya

    teroris  in  cover   stupid   police,teroris  in  cover

  • IMeMine

     How do you know that is how “it is”?

    All you have done is pointed to another poster’s bad behavior to try and justify your own, tu quoque. The poster you have been referring to is obviously suffering from cognitive issues and discredits himself just fine on his own so no response is required. It is not necessary and only makes a mess of the entire thread to sink down to their level.

    If you proceed down this path of fallacious reasoning then I have to ask, what separates you from that “no class troll”?

  • Guest

     I just found it interesting you felt the need to discuss where the person you were discussing lived. What difference does it make one way or another? He is either correct or wrong so there is no reason to bring irrelevant speculation for the sole purpose of denigration, which he seems to be doing just fine on his own. If you do not believe it is irrelevant, then it becomes relevant to where you live.

     Once again you speculate by calling me a coward for simply asking a question that you deem relevant to assume of others. As for being a coward, it seems you are the one who is afraid and incapable of engaging in a real dialogue.

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    Stop deleting your post then I will stop calling you a coward. This is the last time I am talking to you if you don’t stop this stupid game of yours.

  • Anonymous

    That’s why I addressed it to him. I know you’re not him. When the responses come in by e-mail, they sometimes don’t allow a direct response, so I went through the link that began with your note. Sorry.

  • Anonymous

    TED,

    Absolutely, that scenario could have been LEGALLY stopped!  

    The Police had the Constitution on their side by way of “time, place and manner considerations.”  The first amendment is NOT absolute.  There are many Supreme Court decisions that would have supported the cops stopping the Union’s misguided beliefs in 1st amendment absolutism.  (“You can’t shout fire in a crowded movie theater.” Schenk v. United States, 1919)

    IF, the Cops,the DA, Mayor, etc., had wanted it stopped, the law was on their side.  All too often, and especially today, we find the law usurped by political ideology.  Just ask, our current Attorney General, Eric Holder?Perhaps if the powers that be, simply followed the law and founding principle rather than their emotional/political/religious inclinations, the law could be truly representative of “equal protection” and “due process?”

    Purveyor

  • BentGhazi

    It’s OK, I figured it was something like that.

  • Sandie

    Quoque u tu.

    You are no one to talk troll, the coward who hides behind Guest. You appoint yourself the to be Miss Manners of the Disqus realm? LMAO!