Health Update: Glenn’s dog Victor

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Last night, Glenn told the audience about the health problems facing his dog Victor as he is getting older. Glenn gave an update on Victor’s health this morning, and the difficult choice facing his family about how to handle his failing health.

” We have ‑‑ we have gotten an awful lot of mail from last night’s episode of the program.  We talked about The Hobbit but at the end, the last four or five minutes, I… I just, I did a little tribute to my dog Victor who, if you are a long‑time listener of this program, you know Victor.  We used to talk about him all the time.  He used to come to work with me because he’s a service dog and Victor has been at my side for, well, shortly after 9/11,” Glenn said.

“Our lives have changed so much.  At that time we didn’t want to get a gun because neither of us grew up with a gun and we were like, ‘I’m not responsible enough.’  Well, get over that, dummy.  Why don’t you become responsible enough.”

“But we decided we didn’t want to get a gun.  We decided we would get a dog.  And we got Victor, and I’ll never forget.  I was on tour.  We got Victor from this great place called Harrison K‑9 and these are amazing dogs, amazing, amazing dogs and they love them and they ‑‑ they go over to Germany and find these dogs for you.  They ask you exactly what your situation is.  They don’t sell them to everybody because they don’t like people who want, like, attack dogs.  And these are working dogs and so they ask you your situation and then they go over to Germany and try to find the right dog for you and then they train him.  He’s already been in three years of training over in Germany and then they tune him for your family.  And we wanted a dog that could rip somebody’s throat out but also be with the family and be good with the kids.  And we didn’t have any kids at the time, and Victor, when we were going through our trouble trying to have another child, Victor was kind of our child.”

“And I remember having a conversation with Victor right before Raphe was born because Tania was down on the ground with him, and she was every night.  And she was laying down on the ground with him in the bedroom and she was talking to him and rubbing his face and I said, ‘Oh, poor Victor.  Victor, Mommy is not ‑‑ Mommy is going to be like, what is this dog doing.  The minute this baby is born, you better be on your best behavior because now the firstborn is not quite as special.’”

“And I think Victor took my advice, and I will never forget when Raphe was old enough to sit on my lap, I was on the phone talking to somebody and I was holding Raphe on my lap and Victor was sitting there at my knee.  And Raphe was, like, moving really hard and I’m like, ‘What are you doing?’  And I looked down and he has Victor by the fangs, in this giant mouth.  I mean, this dog is gigantic.  He used to look like a lion.  And he had him by the canine teeth and he was rocking his face back and forth like it was a ride, like those were the handlebars of this giant mouth ride that he was in.  And Victor was just looking up at me like, ‘You know I could take his hands right now but I won’t because I love you.’”

“He’s the best dog in the world.  And I got home last night and the phone was ringing and everybody was calling and I didn’t want to talk to anybody and my wife just looked at me and said, ‘What did you do?’  And I said, ‘I just talked about Victor on the air and the decisions that we have to make.’  And she said, ‘He’s fine.’  And I said, ‘Uh‑huh.’  And he goes through these spurts where ‑‑ he’s approaching 13.  He’s 12 now.  For a pure bred German Shepherd that’s like 1,000.  And he goes through these periods of real pain.  And he was standing in the living room yesterday by himself and I walk in and he’s just, he’s whimpering.  And I went over and I ‑‑ I held him.  And he goes through these periods where he seems to be fine and then he can’t get up and he’s dragging his feet behind him.  And we’re stuck in this place that we love him so much.”

“And I find myself having these odd Margaret Sanger conversations in my head, that life is life and who am I to say when it’s time for him to go.  But I again don’t know.  I don’t want him in pain.  I don’t want him to ‑‑ he’s ‑‑ he’s blind now and he’s ‑‑ at times he’s the same old Victor.  But when do you know?”

Glenn explained that he has wondered if the best thing for Victor would be to put him to sleep, which prompted a conversation between everyone about euthanasia in both people and animals.

Read the transcript of the conversation below:

GLENN: We were talking about this in the office this morning, and Stu is I guess my angel on one shoulder saying life is life and you don’t do it. And Pat is the other good angel on my shoulder saying you don’t let him suffer. And I’m in the middle saying I… my whole family isn’t even convinced that he’s suffering. And I don’t know if we’re in denial or if I’m trying to just get past it. It’s a tough decision.

STU: I mean, you know, you’re ‑‑ it’s impossible obviously, but you’re in a ‑‑ you’re trying to make a, essentially a quality of life judgment.

GLENN: You’re making a God decision.

STU: Yeah. And especially if there’s ‑‑ if there’s doubt. I mean, if there’s ‑‑ you know, if the doctor is saying he’s not in that much pain.

GLENN: I don’t know. The doctor is ‑‑ I mean, first of all, how do you know a dog is in pain?

STU: Yeah, but you’re not erring on the side of life, though, I mean at that point. If the medical information, people in your family think that he’s okay.

GLENN: No, nobody thinks that he’s okay.

STU: Not okay. You know, he might be in pain but you don’t ‑‑ there’s a certain amount of pain that everybody has. If he’s ‑‑ if the doctors are saying it’s not that bad, to me you don’t want to err on the side of saying, “No, I think he is in that much pain, therefore we should end life.”

GLENN: He has an IV in his leg. He has an ulcer in his eye. So his eyes are bleeding. So his eyes are red. So he’s looking. He can’t see out of his eye anymore. He’s dragging his legs behind him. He’s, times can’t get up. Sometimes he can.

Like last night the doctor put him ‑‑ you know, gave him, just gave him some medicine. You know, he’s been on IV, blah, blah‑blah. He comes home, she says give him this dog food. I haven’t seen him run to the bowl of food for I don’t know how long. We’ve had to hand‑feed him for a while because he just can’t even ‑‑ he can just barely even stand. He can’t stand up and put his head down in the bowl anymore. And ‑‑ but in the last, now like the last 36 hours, where two days ago… I wrote my kids and said, (inaudible). And last night he runs to his bowl. And it’s like…

STU: He is surviving.

PAT: He is.

GLENN: How do you make this decision? How do you make this decision? And, you know, it’s really, especially with all this stuff with ObamaCare, you can’t make that decision.

PAT: Your dog is not covered, though, by ObamaCare.

STU: No.

PAT: That’s not a good thing.

GLENN: You can’t, you have these people ‑‑

PAT: Your 42‑year‑old children and your dog.

STU: That’s Bo care.

GLENN: You have these panels that will make this decision that will just be cold and calculating.

PAT: Yeah, about humans.

GLENN: About humans.

PAT: About humans. And that’s ‑‑ I mean ‑‑

STU: Right.

PAT: It’s staggering to think about for a dog. Try it for humans. I mean, it’s unbelievable the things we’re considering doing and are doing now because ObamaCare is the law of the land.

GLENN: They’re starving them to death. Now imagine this. I mean, I would go and put a bullet in his head so fast rather than starving him to death.

PAT: Oh, yeah, it’s painful. It’s awful. It’s awful.

GLENN: Starving him to death would be the most cruel thing possible.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: And that’s what they are doing in the British healthcare system now.

PAT: Yeah. To babies.

GLENN: To babies. And to handicap.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: Starving people, and the elderly, starving them to death. That’s just one of the most cruel things I’ve ever seen or heard of in my life. I can’t ‑‑ I wouldn’t do that to my dog. I would ‑‑ I contend they would put me in jail if I did that to Victor, if I starved him to death out of compassion.

STU: And they should.

GLENN: And they should. And yet that’s what the healthcare system is doing in England. And that’s what we will do here. Because it will be an easier way. We’ve already done it here. We did it with Terri Schiavo. Just starve them to death. Out of compassion. That’s not compassion.

STU: I’m admittedly weird on this issue. I mean, you know, as some people probably know, I’m like the world’s only conservative vegetarian and part of the reason for that is that there is part of that that goes into that equation that ‑‑

GLENN: Wow, listen to this. Listen to this. This is new information.

STU: No, it’s not.

PAT: We have not heard this yet.

GLENN: We said this about him the minute, and he’s like, no, I’m just, I’m tired of meat. Go ahead.

PAT: Go ahead.

STU: Or you could have read it in your own magazine in which I wrote this, Fusion magazine, which is ‑‑

GLENN: We don’t hide it in the ‑‑ hide it in the pages of magazines. Who reads magazines?

STU: No, I did ‑‑

PAT: All right. Let’s hear it. What’s the big admission then?

STU: No, I mean, I have ‑‑ it’s not a big admission.

PAT: Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. You’ve not admitted it to us on the air.

GLENN: Not on the air.

PAT: Go ahead.

GLENN: Let’s hear it.

PAT: Let’s hear it.

STU: It’s not a big admission at all. I think ‑‑

PAT: Go ahead. Let’s hear the little admission.

STU: It’s already been admitted in a magazine.

GLENN: Hang on. Take off your leather shoes before you admit this. Go ahead.

STU: These are not leather shoes. However, but I ‑‑

GLENN: We haven’t lost you to the no‑leather people, have we?

STU: No. I will say that there’s part of me ‑‑ and this did happen for my dog, by the way, in that I don’t think ‑‑ I do think that man has domain over animals. I do believe that. But I don’t necessarily mean that ‑‑ think that that’s a great idea. I still believe in the principle of life. And if it’s at all possible, I believe to err on the side of life. That goes with humans and it goes with animals. You know, and I do ‑‑

PAT: So part of this is you don’t believe man should eat animals?

STU: No, I don’t ‑‑ I feel like I err on the side of life. So like, I don’t make that decision for you guys, don’t criticize you at all. I’ve never criticized you for a second. When I really think about it ‑‑

GLENN: But I want you to know we’ve criticized you.

STU: You have, often.

GLENN: And behind your back.

PAT: And vocally. But much more in front of your back than behind your back.

STU: That’s fine. That’s fine.

GLENN: Really cruel stuff but I’d have to say that’s the really funny stuff, too.

PAT: Of course, of course.

GLENN: Is behind your back.

STU: Is ‑‑ and I believe that. But no, it’s a very personal decision. I do not pushy on anybody. I’m not PETA, I’m not taking out billboards telling you shouldn’t do it. But my point is that I don’t under ‑‑ you know, it comes to that point of here I am. If I feel like you, Glenn, with my dog, I will probably be out of work for a week when that dog dies. I will be absolutely crushed and unable to do anything. And, you know, I’ll go to the point of taking the dog to the vet all the time and all these crazy things I’ll do to keep this dog alive, but that’s just because I know this dog. The only difference between this dog and all these other animals that I would normally have on an egg sandwich is the fact that I’ve never met them and I have no relationship with them.

GLENN: That’s why Raphe said to me the other day ‑‑

STU: Why I feel it’s inconsistent.

GLENN: ‑‑ “I don’t want to eat chicken.” He’s a kid who just won’t eat anything. I mean, we can put anything in front of him and he’s got a reason not to eat it. He just won’t eat it. He will power eat morning for breakfast. He will eat like 14 bowls of cereal, eggs, bacon, anything you put in front of him. God help you if you get your hands in front of the boy in the morning. But by night, he’s just not interested. And so it was an excuse, but I think there was a little bit of it. He said, “I don’t want chicken.” I said, Raphe, you like chicken. “No, I don’t want chicken. I don’t like chicken.” Well, that’s what we’re… arghhhh! Man, it’s a good thing my grandfather does not live anywhere near this boy. But he said, I don’t want chicken because I don’t… “Why?” “Because it reminds me of my chicken.” And I said, “What’s the first thing I told you when we got chickens?” “I know, don’t name the chickens.” That’s right.

STU: But why ‑‑ I mean, and this is my point. It’s an argument of are you pro life or are you pro personality. When you have a relationship with a specific animal ‑‑

GLENN: No, I’m pro life.

STU: ‑‑ you want to keep it alive at all costs. It’s the Charlotte’s Web thing. It’s like Wilbur because a stupid spider can put a name above his head, all of a sudden you save him.

GLENN: When it comes to ‑‑ first of all, I don’t equate animal life the same as human life.

STU: I agree.

GLENN: There’s a big difference there.

STU: There’s a big difference there. And if I was starve, I would absolutely eat ‑‑

GLENN: That’s why I don’t eat veal, and I am vocal about this, I don’t eat veal because I think it’s wrong to torture your food to make it taste better. It’s just not ‑‑ that’s just beyond unethical. That’s just evil. You don’t torture your food to make it taste better. No, definitely not.

STU: There was a little hesitation there.

GLENN: I just wanted to make sure. I was… however, when it comes to your mixing in eating with saving your dog, I don’t believe in this, I just don’t believe in ‑‑ you know, if you have the money, like you have the money. Go ahead and do the CAT scans and the, you know, all of the, you know, plastic surgery, you’ll never change your pug’s face but do all of that you want, whatever, if that’s good for the dog, if it’s ‑‑

STU: Right.

GLENN: But these people, people will get into debt with chemotherapy.

STU: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: And if you have the money, that’s fine. But I don’t ‑‑ I don’t understand. And I would do it for my dog but I ‑‑

PAT: Me, too.

GLENN: But you look at it and you think, I don’t know if this is even right. It is if you have the money. But if you are putting your family in jeopardy for it, I mean, there is something to be said with your family first. And I know.

PAT: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: The dog is a member of the family.

STU: That’s tough.

GLENN: I know.

STU: You have to put your family first.

GLENN: It’s awful.

STU: You have to do that. But, like, that stupid question kind of stuck in my head is why don’t I eat my dog? Why don’t I? The reason I don’t do it is probably taste. I don’t know what dogs taste like but people on farms will tell you that they have cows that they love and why don’t I eat them? Why don’t I eat ‑‑ why don’t they eat Wilbur? They don’t eat Wilbur because they have a relationship with Wilbur. And if you can have a relationship with Wilbur, then why don’t you consider that in the equation? I still believe that man is superior. I’m not some crazy, like, I don’t think I’m pushing anything on anybody. But it’s something, I feel like as a conservative who wants to remain consistent ‑‑

PAT: Listen to this. This is pretty new information.

GLENN: We’ve lost him.

PAT: This is new information.

STU: It’s all in the article eight years ago.

GLENN: He’s going to be wearing Birkenstocks.

PAT: We don’t read you dumb articles.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

PAT: I mean, we read everything else in TheBlaze magazine.

GLENN: Have you read ‑‑

PAT: And don’t read yours, Stu?

GLENN: Have you read Agenda 21 yet?

 

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Glenn, in the case of Victor you and your family have to decide when the time comes that all you can do for him is done. I imagine most of us here at the site have been in that position one or more times in our lives, I have been many times.

    Make the right choice when it comes Glenn, and in the meantime, enjoy every moment with Victor you and your family can while he remains on this earth.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    The Obama-care death panels is coming soon, and what will all of you who voted for Obama do when you or your loved ones, your kids or relatives or friends are denied care due to the death panel declaring them ‘not worth the expense.’

    Welcome to the British style of health care where an unaccountable government board will determine life and death for many, and see the inhumanity of people allowed to starve to death for being infirm or disabled.

    We are facing a pact with death and damnation worse than that of Nazi Germany.

  • Anonymous

    The Joy of an Old Dog……..was one of the best poems I have heard in such a long time…please post the words if the author will allow……….very comforting for all of us who love our dogs…….

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    That poor dog. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWAAFFBVKAROICVSLJNTZJPMBA HELEN

    Palliative care is perfectly appropriate.  Life belongs to our Lord, not to us mere mortals.

    When I have dying animals, I go to baby food in a syringe to get something down.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Glenn
    On monday afternoon i took my pomeranian  Max to the groomer where he had been many times before since he was 2 years old.  He was nervous as usual and when I left him I said don’t be nervous you”ll be okay. Max was born on March 15 2000 and we always called him our millenium baby because we have no children.Max was aging and had some anxiety and breathing problems but nothing that we thought was life threatening. I  live about 10 minutes from the groomer and by the time I got back home from dropping him off, the groomer was ringing me to tell me to come back because Max had some sort of attack. When I got to the groomer he was still breathing but not very responsive. I phoned my husband who works close to home and he met me at the vet. Max died on monday night December 10 2012 just shy of his 13th birthday.

     I write tonight with a very heavy heart..But it’s my experience that your dog knows how you feel about his condition and I truly believe they pick their time and place.  Our animals are gifts from God and they are only on loan .

    I’ve been thruogh this with two other dogs and I always pray for God to give me a sign that they are okay. I haven’t watched TV or has the radio on since monday.This morning I turned the radio on 25 minutes into your show and you read the poem your friend wrote and my husband heard it too. We knew immediately that that was our sign that Max was okay.

    Angels come in many different forms. Thank you for being ours  

    Sincerely
    Jean M Furgiuele
    frijeart@aol.com

  • Anonymous

    VEEEEEKTOR!

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

     

    Dear Glenn, Tania & Family,

    We truly understand your pain and know the beautiful
    unconditional love between our “babies” and us. We lost Lulu our beloved 14
    year old Golden Retriever in April this year. For nearly two years we nursed
    her because she had hip problems and struggled to get up by herself. We were
    able to help her up by placing a thick, long 5” wide belt under her belly and
    we pulled her up from behind. We then walked with her holding the strap up balancing
    her as she walked when she needed to go outside or eat. She was such a happy
    dog, good spirited, loved life & her food! Then one day she let us know it
    was time. Unfortunately our puppies don’t have life spans as long as us. It
    broke our hearts, but we know she had a wonderful life and boy did she bring
    joy into ours. We miss her so much, but we have great memories of the years she
    honored us with her presence. WHAT A DOG! We are praying for all of you.  Please be reassured that Victor will let you
    know when it is time. God’s Tender Blessings To All of You.

  • http://www.facebook.com/maren.scott Maren J. Scott

    Glenn and family: though you won’t read this, I have to comment.  We have had many many animals, as I write there are seven cats and five dogs at my feet, all rescue animals someone else threw away. Yes I know that’s just crazy to have so many.

     Quite frankly some we have loved more than others, some have had more personality quirks and some were a wee bit more difficult to deal with, but always, every single time when it has come to letting them move on they have let me knew when they had had enough. They seem to tell me clearly, I feel it in my gut, I try to rationalize it away but I just know. 
    Victor will tell you, he will look you in the eyes and you will know he has had enough. Yes life is sacred, but sometimes as our beloved friends suffer, this is the last great gift we can give them.
    When Victor goes, he will run free through green meadows and if you are lucky he will come to you in your dreams and tell you thanks.

  • Anonymous

    I have survived 22 strokes, 3 heart attacks, had the bottom half of my right leg amputated and my kidneys are only at 24% of normal function. I survived 16 years of pain so bad that the only medication that helped was 100 times more powerful than morphine and I had to have that 24 hours a day, 365 days a year for 16 years. 4 years ago I chose to go off of it cold turkey. Haven’t had as much as 1 aspirin in te last 4 years. It isn’t always easy but I am doing it and getting by.

    In all that time, I loved and cared for and served my family even though I couldn’t do much. It took me an hour to slide off the bed and crawl the 20 feet down the hall to the bathroom. When I did walk it was like walking on a never ending bed of red hot coals and broken glass.

    I am quite sure that some people who have put me out of my misery if they had the power to do so. My joys were small ones to be sure but meaningful to me.

    As long as Victor feels he has a purpose and he feels loved, I expect he will figure his life is worthwhile. Talk WITH Victor, Glenn, not TO Victor, not AT Victor, WITH Victor, soul to soul. That is how you will know what to do and when and Victor will help you understand what you need to know.

  • Anonymous

    Please don’t overlook alternative treatments like acupuncture, herbs and laser therapy. Most mainstream vets won’t even discuss these things, you need to ask about it.

  • Anonymous

    I heard a vet say this once, too, Maren – they will let you know. This is the most difficult part of caring for an animal friend. I pray that you and your family will find peace in whatever decision you make, Glenn. Be blessed.

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    he might be the “same ole victor” for you…to please you.

    i made this very, very miserably difficult decision once too.

    i know exactly how you feel.

    buster got intestinal cancer after 11 years.  he was a pitbull-chihuahua.  he was my “first born” too.

    i think stu is wrong.  victor, buster can’t tell us/can’t say how they feel.  we know when humans are in pain.  humans often times know how to make themselves feel better, feel more comfortable.  we are guessing w/animals.  we know some things but we just don’t know so much.

  • Anonymous

    anyone who had a dog that was old had to cry. They our Gods gift. I would also love if it were posted.

  • Anonymous

    My prayers are first for Victor, and then for you and your family.  We know that God created animals and he put the emotion of love in us humans.  So God understands our  pain and sadness that we feel when our pets are sick. God will be there to love Victor and his loving family “through”  these days.   God bless you, your family, and Victor.

  • http://profiles.google.com/rtgaugh Robert Gaugh

    My dad and I took our 13 year old German Shepherd to the vet when I was 13 years old.  The vet had been giving him Cortisone shots in his hips so he could walk.  The shots lasted about 10 days and then our family’s beloved “Jeff”, whom I had always known since day one, couldn’t get up to bring himself back in the house after going outside to do his business.

    So I recall the conversation between my dad and the vet like it was yesterday (it was 30+ years ago).  Our Jeff had a great life, but was suffering and his pain would only get worse.  I was stunned!  My dad, who had won awards at several dog shows with Jeff when they were both 10 years or so younger, made a very difficult and heart-wrenching decision. We left Jeff at the Vet’s office, and that 15 minute ride home seemed like 2 hours.  I had to go to school the next day.  I’ve never forgotten about our Jeff, and I’m sure Glenn and his family will never forget about Victor.

    I’m fairrly certain that Glenn will make the same gut-wrenching decision that my dad had to make.  As tough as it is, a dog is not a person.  I’ve come to believe that we as humans created in God’s image actually have a duty to prevent animals from suffering.  If we can save and extend their lives we should, but it is wrong to watch them suffer when we posses the God given power to relieve their pain.  God gave us this power.  However, I don’t God allows man to wield the same power over other humans.  In that case we should provide comfort and support…a good read of the end of life experiences of soldiers during the Civil War provides great insight into this issue.

    God Bless Glen and his family.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Glenn,
    I don’t know if this piece will help you or not, but I thought that I’d send it along. When I lost my little dog, I felt like my world had come to an end, but now several months down the line, life is good again. I firmly believe that any creature capable of such love and devotion, will have a special place in heaven and be there to greet us when our journey finally ends.
    My prayers go out to you, your family and of course to sweet Victor.
    God bless.
    http://www.petmd.com/dog/care/evr_dg_letter_from_annie

  • Anonymous

    Maren, you are so right.  I have shown dogs for 35 years.  I have owned many, and all of them were special and much loved by the whole family.  So many have passed away, and I have had only one who passed away in her sleep.  Each time I knew when the time was getting near and each time they let me know when it was time. Just be with that dog at the end and they will go peacefully knowing that you are near.

  • http://www.facebook.com/matilda.m.jordan Matilda Merrifield Jordan

    There is an amazing chiropractor that really helped our very old Boxer she is in Keller her name is Chandra Chrisp and she works with people and babies she is amazing and sometime she works with peoples animals.  We took two of our dogs to her and one was 11 the other at least 13 and they were out of pain for the fist time in years.  Worth a shot.  817-431-4242  We see her all the time for our family and I have been out of pain for the fist time in years.  There are some people who are on this earth and are amazing and special and she is one of them.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BKBWEZ73YBHDVJDVJIFZ2BAAWM Linda

    I just wanted to be able to send Glenn a new pet supplement that works amazingly with orthopaedic issues.   Does anyone know to what physical address I can send it?  Mercury Radio Arts in Texas is all I know.

  • Anonymous

    When I watched you monologue on Victor last night, I cried so hard. My dog is about the same age and occasionally has problems. I love my dog to death, our pets are more than animals, they’re family. Glenn and family, I am so sorry, you have my deepest sympathy. I pray that you will not have to make this decision, if it’s Victor’s time, God will bring him home, but maybe He will give him more time on earth with you. No matter what, you’ll see Victor again. God Bless.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z5YJ3IHVDXCQ447JNY6PY3YSWQ Bonnie

    GLENN,
    I WEPT WITH YOU WHEN YOU TOLD US ABOUT VICTOR, I KNOW HOW PRECIOUS HE IS TO YOU ALL.  I AM PRAYING THAT GOD WILL TOUCH HIM AND GIVE HIM SOME MORE TIME WITH YOU FOLKS.
    YOUR CHRISTMAS SPECIAL TONIGHT WAS A REAL BLESSING.  YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL FAMILY AND I PRAY FOR YOUR PROTECTION EACH DAY.
    YOU ARE SUCH A BLESSING TO US ALL, AND HAVE TAUGHT US SO MUCH.
    I REALLY FEEL THIS CHRISTMAS NEEDS TO BE ENJOYED WITH OUR LOVED ONES,
    FOR I DON’T KNOW WHAT CHANGES WILL BE IN OUR NEAR FUTURE!!
    IT’S SO SAD TO SEE OUR COUNTRY DESTROYED FROM WITHIN.
    GOD BLESS YOU!!   YOU ARE VERY SPECIAL TO ME.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BMNQ735HRSI2S6G6LZTMULW7NM DavidS

    Glen, I am sending you 6 bottles of LiquaVision that you will receive shortly. LiquaVision is an all natural eye drop that has magnetic energy infused in it. The results users are reporting and their testimonials is nothing short of AMAZING!  Go to LiquaVisionEyeCare.com to read those testimonials and reviews. Also go to KangenH2omovie.com. You will see 3 videos there. Watch the second and third Video (must scroll down to see 3rd). My a13 yr old cat could no longer jump up on the bed due to arthritis and old age. After drinking Kangen water for 4 weeks, not only could she jump up on the bed, she was tearing up the carpet running around like a kitten… No joke!

  • http://twitter.com/DeliaAGriffin Delia A. Griffin

    when we were going through our trouble trying to have another child, Victor was kind of our child.http://youtubeGoogleAmericanJob.qr.net/jVwS/watch?v=lQPBSI0W9o4R

  • http://twitter.com/athelass Diane Shearer

    I’ve had to put many animals out of their misery over the years. You always pray they will fall asleep and not wake up so you don’t have to make that decision, but they rarely do. Not all of them were special, but when you lose one of your favorites it’s so hard. I also had the privilege of seeing my mother through her last days with cancer, along with a caring hospice.  I thought then that I would never want the choice to end the life a a loved one in pain, because it is too terrible a responsibility. You couldn’t do it and you couldn’t not do it. Better to not have the choice. You feel it in your spirit, the difference between the life of an animal and the life of a human being. I don’t know how these people in England can live with themselves. Their souls must be black holes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Layna-Palmer/100000091668399 Layna Palmer

    We had our wonderful dog, a Lab, Border Aussie mix die this past Spring, just shy of his 12th birthday.  He came into our lives as a puppy and had to have his leg amputated at 8 weeks when he broke it and it couldn’t be repaired.  Our wonderful vet tried everything he could, but our Jake spent the rest of his life on three legs.  He still managed to swim in the river, herd kittens, chase the kids around the yard and bark anytime you had food in your hand.  My daughter commented, when we were at the vets and found out he was in renal failure, that she knew he was sick because he wouldn’t even eat the cake she had baked.  It was his time, there was nothing else that could be done.  We had the choice to hold him as he peacefully went to sleep for the last time, or watch him suffer with seizures as he painfully left us.  We chose the former and we are grateful.  We were able to stand by him, holding him and tell him goodbye.  My kids were sad, and they still get teary-eyed remembering Jake, but not like they would have if we had allowed him to suffer as he would have.  I am so grateful for the wonderful Vet we have and knowing that he loved our dog as much as we did.  It was a hard choice, but I know it was the right one, and so many times I have felt my dog near, letting me know that he is okay, running through green meadows on four legs.  

  • Lioness

    Obama’s population control is already here. My dad who has advanced cancer ended up in the hospital two weeks ago. His cancer has effected his lungs dramatically and he had major discomfort in his back from the large tumor. Those bastards loaded him with morphine ( the worst pain med you can give someone in his situation), sent him home with a big bottle and started with the hospice calls immediately. I couldn’t except this BS, and spent some time looking up quality homeopathic medicine. He has been pain free and comfortable for well over a week with nothing more than a regimen of healthy supplements (prior to that he had persistent pain for months) Whether these products do any more than just make him comfortable while being coherent, only time will tell. Our health care system is already cracked, and for cancer, it’s just a money making machine for the FDA, pharmaceutical, insurance conglomeration. If it wasn’t for the government, I truly believe we’d have a cure right now.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn-Please contact Dean Koontz; that’s right, the author.  Both he and his wife are long time dog owners and lovers and work with dogs all the time.  They may have some brilliant advice.

  • Anonymous

    We’re going through the same thing with our 12-13 yo German Shepherd now (rescued junkyard dog). Back end starting to go. Had him in therapy for 6 weeks,,,,,,,still happy, “smiling”; we know that WE’LL KNOW when it is time. Geez, like Glenn, wish he had cancer or some health problem so WE didn’t have to make “that decision”….for now, he’s good. Bless you Beck family. PS I’m looking for that “Old Dogs” poem also…………..”Rainbow Bridge” is another great poem.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LEIC3LK6JVX7LBXWPC756TESNA Robin

    Glenn, God bless your family and VICTOR. I know what you are going through and it hurts so much. It is like losing a member of the family. Deciding when their time is the worst. I will pray for you and your family and for Victor. What a beautiful furbaby you have. Give him lots of love and kisses. I cried when i listened to you speaking about your baby. I have 2 beautiful Shelties at the Rainbow Bridge and they will wait till i get there to greet me. I am a rescue Mom of 6 dogs and they each give me joy and they also are the loves of my life. I hurt for you and your family. I hope you find hope and peace at the end of the journey. I know it will be devestating but your beautiful Victor has had a wonderful life and will continue with Angels next to him.
    God Bless You! 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LEIC3LK6JVX7LBXWPC756TESNA Robin

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  • Anonymous

    LIONESS,

    Respectfully, is your Father still lucid and cogent? Does he participate in the decision making of his health care and/or daily needs? In other words, did he agree with your choice of a “homeopathic regime?”

    I am NOT being contrarian, or setting a trap. Quite the opposite as this subject is quintessentially philosophic.

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    I have seen the miracles of acupuncture and herbal therapy with my daughter’s 14 year old Saint Bernard!  It is truly amazing to see how these treatments have helped and she is still with us.  It’s been a rollercoaster for the past three years.  There are days when we think we’re on the verge of having to make that dreaded decision – and then she bounces back.  You’re right.  Mainstream vets won’t suggest this type of therapy but it truly works miracles! 

  • Anonymous

    In 1997, I was recently divorced had an 8 year old son.  We were scared to be out on our own but thought if we had a dog we feel safer.  So we went to the pound and found a 3 month old terrier mix who grew up to look like a 45 lb schnauzer mix.  She was with me through many trials and tribulations and finally on 7/7/12, I had to put her down at 15 1/2 years old.  It absolutely devastated me, but I knew I couldn’t let her suffer anymore.   When Glenn talked about the agonizing decision that was facing him concerning Victor, I cried and cried as I went through the same thing for over a year.  My mom told me that Kelsey (my dog) would let me know when it was time and she did eventually make it very clear she was ready to go.  I knew it was the right thing and found peace in my decision, even though my heart was broken.  Kelsey comes to me in my dreams sometimes and we have a nice visit.  I always feel better after dreaming about her.  God bless you, Glenn.  We are out here praying for you and your family and Victor.

  • Barbara Dresser

    Just this past September, I had to put my preciousl Sissy Anne down. She was a beautiful 7-year-old Golden Retriever. It seems she had gotten into some toxic mushrooms. When I took her to the vet, he said she was in liver failure, and her blood count was so low, she was struggling just to live. He said they could try a blood transfusio, but there was no guarantee that it would work. I knew had to make a decision right then and there. It was awful. As she laid there on the table, I just hugged her and sobbed. She looked up at me – and licked my tears. It was her way of letting me now it was okay.

    I, like you, and so many others who have commented here, know in our hearts and souls that ALL life is precious. And our beloved pets are like our own chidren. I have 5 grown chldren and Sissy Anne was like another child to me. She was a gift from God. And I know she’s in heaven.

    According to several accounts from those who have had life-after-death experiences, then come back to talk about those experiences, most all have said they saw animals – and their pets – in heaven. I’m still grieving for my Sissy Anne, but I know she’s at peace now, and in no more pain.

    May our Lord be with you and yours, Glenn, and may He give you the courage and peace you need.

  • Lioness

    Definitely! Actually two weeks ago he didn’t have much of a choice, they (meaning multiple doctors) basically said he had no more options because his physical health was too bad to endure anymore treatments. He’s currently very happy to be taking the treatments, and of course they are safe (especially if you compare chemo and morphine). He’s been through over a year of chemo so the products used are very helpful in removing toxins in the body. Products for the liver and pancreas are well known brands. He’s not doped up with opiates which made him sleep all day, yet the pain he had for months is gone and has been for about a week and a half. He can work on building his physical strength, eat well, and of course play angry birds without any discomfort. I’m not sure if the treatments will actually help with his cancer, but it may be possible to endure further treatments if his overall health improves. It’s always his choice and of course if he’s too tired to go further I can accept that, but for now he seems like he wants to hang around:)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7RGE6F7OMVKPFAOTKL67SLAZYM Peggy

    I held my Suzi in my arms as it was her turn at the gate……her eyes where telling me thank you…see you later mom…it’s ok….just 2 weeks ago……we give personhood to our friends via seeing and sensing their unique “personalities”….while they “hurt” physically we hurt emotionally…..they are our faithful and unconditional companions……keep in mind, by the time we humans see and experience their pain…that have been stoick and have lived with it a very longer time……Glenn, Family, God’s Peace…it is time…..you have been blessed by having him…and he has been blessed by having your family

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004491845250 EV Raines

    I let my 12 year old Shepherd go two years ago, last Sept. If I thought just a few seconds, I could probably tell you how many days, hours and minutes ago that was. It was just that hard. I’ve had many GSD’s in my life, and a GSD Service dog now, but this grand old girl was special, a rescue who had no hope, but we fought the hard parts of her life, and she gave us 11 years in our family as a dear, dear heart.

    So, you see, I’ve been where you are, stepped in your footprints, fought the emotions, cried the tears, and finally reached the hard decisions. I have only one thought to pass on, one thing to say that may help…let your precious Victor go out of this world with the dignity that he lived and carried with him every day. Believe me, you do not want a whimper to be his last sound. Just a soft exhale of “Good-Bye, see you soon dear Master.” God promised we would have all that we loved and all happiness in Heaven. Your Victor will see you again, young, healthy and glad to be back at your side, Just give him the dignity he deserves, Glenn. He’s given you so much, let him carry his dignity and awareness with him.

    God Bless you, your family, and your dear Victor.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    LIONESS,

    Rather equivocating as I sometimes do in dialogue of this nature, I’ll be candid. I am “pro-choice,” philosophically speaking. The phrase pro-choice is all to often narrowly interpreted and placed in the abortion issue/context. In fact, being “pro-choice” is a philosophy that should be embraced by all Americans However, liberals who once made pro-choice demands in the 60′s, curiously, have abandoned their “pro-choice” stance and have become very controlling, thus no-choice in a variety of contexts–cigarettes, seat belts, guns, big gulp soda pop, Big Macs, etc.

    Conversely, the conservative has become the “pro-choice” philosopher. However, even the pro choice conservative has their pet issues (their ox) whereby they too abandon the principle of “pro-choice?” For instance, abortion, euthanasia, prayer in school, etc. (Too often it all “depends on whose ox is being gored”)

    My philosophy of “Neutral Principle” seeks to keep principle in focus, despite our moral inclinations. Effectively, and this is the tough part, to be sure that law and public policy are based on reason, not caprice.

    I too had to make a quality of life decision for my Dad back in 1988. Cancer had put him in a coma. The American Indians have a philosophy–”he chose a good day to die”

    Purveyor

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1787628647 Judy Howard

    Dear Beck Family,
    Last year, we put down our family dog, Buster.  He was a rescue dog and a purebred yellow lab.  He loved to talk to us and had to sit in the middle of the room for all to see him when we had company.  Sometimes what he showed company was not what we wanted our company to see, if you know what I mean.

    He followed me every where I went and was my companion and friend.  He layed at the side of my dieing mother in law, and had more grandchildren try to ride him like a horse than he would have liked.  Buster was one of the family but the last two years he began hurting in his hips.  We tried herbs, pain killers, massages, the works but he kept getting worse.  If it were up to my family, we would have put him down sooner but I insisted he live until I said it was time. 

    It was tragic when I woke up one morning and went to let him outside.  He kept falling down and could no longer walk correctly.  He couldn’t eat or drink as standing was too difficult.  His eyes were wide with terror and I knew that it was time.  He had suffered long enough and now he couldn’t even feed himself.  Buster is buried in our backyard and won’t ever be forgot.

    Now please let me say that dogs are pack animals.  They will hide as much as possible their pain and handicap so that the pack won’t attack and kill the weak link.  Victor will do what he can for survival but he also knows that it is the packs responsibility to do the right thing.  When Victor’s time comes, you will know it and he will depend on you to be a responsible pack member.  It is the cycle of life in the animal kingdom.

    Glenn you are such a leader for America and now you must be a leader in a realm that humans are unaccustomed too.  You must be the Alpha dog in your pack and do what is needed. 

    Good luck
    Judy Howard

  • Lioness

    Unfortunately, in our current system, the right to chose is limited by the lack of options presented. Not every one has access to the internet, nor the money or time, to do some of the things that I am fortunate enough to do. I just wish I learned more earlier on. Like most, I just went with the system, but I’m learning what a big mistake that was. It’s not that I don’t believe in a beautiful fusion between modern medicine and that of the holistic. It’s just that all the money, greed, and FDA regulations do not. I sincerely believe that if it were not for excessive government intervention in medicine, we would definitely have a cure right now. As for my dad, he’s a simple kind of guy, he wants to live as long as he’s comfortable. Although I believe every one has a choice, I’m personally not a big fan of euthanasia, if the pain can be properly managed, I don’t feel it necessary. But that goes back to what I stated before about natural healing, some of it’s more powerful than morphine, yet not mentally incapacitating. And very few know about it. Modern medicine can be very archaic, when the age old theme of greed becomes the motive.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MGZHHWXNR5AII7AL7TAILWI4GM Laf

    I know a number of great theologians, including Martin Luther, Matthew Henry and John Wesley believed that the animals would be resurrected on the day of the General Deliverance, based on Romans 8:19-22. Even John Calvin in his commentary admitted the possibility, but just left the issue alone (understandably – it’s mysterious!).

    Further, Ecclesiastes 3:21 does not ask if a beast has a soul (nephesh), but Who knows where it goes after the beast dies.

    Jesus said that God notices every sparrow that falls from the sky; he asks his audience of humans ‘how much MORE’ God loves them (emphasis mine). But it is clear that God loves His creation, even the beasts.

    Finally, Revelation 5:13:

    13  And
    every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the
    earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I
    saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that
    sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

    It is the ‘in them’ (referring to the earth and sea) that really catches my eye. If I recall correctly, in the Book of Job, the dead were referred to as being ‘in’ the earth.

    I personally have come to believe that God will get His desire (as well He should) that He started in Eden, just delayed while He saved mankind. And I believe, based on the above, that the animals now, having been released from their ‘bondage of corruption’.

    Praise God!

  • Anonymous

    Addition to an earlier comment:  Our Sage was 14 years old; the last year of her life she was on Metacam  She had ‘peripheral neuropathy’  I did massage therapy with her and tried acupuncture. We built a ramp for her to assist the going in and out.    It was difficult getting her to the vet however. I am sure you will know when the time arrives to make that decision.  Having Sage cremated and being able to know she is with us in some fashion helps.
    God Spread His mantle over all the people of NewTown, CT.  Our hearts are with them. These angels These gifts of God are forever safe in His arms as all the children of the world who have their lives returned to  Him.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GQZBZSUM5RWTRR7EQOAI3KMP6A sobela

    Glenn first off I’m so sorry for what u have been going throw and what ur going throw now.
    I had a really great dog that while I did not go throw what ur going throw with death threats and so on. I did have a lot of trouble with a really violent X boy friend and my female dog Angel a red chow/golden retriever mix was my best friend and when I was going throw trying to get away from my X. She was was the that protected me every time with out fail.
    But 8 years ago I had to put her down her. Her kidneys where failing she could not really do much but lay there she could not go with out help. Her life was just not good any more so I with the help of my wonderful husband had to decide to put her down or let her suffer. So I knowing that her life was just not happy anymore. She lived to run and swim plus chase anything lol but with the way she was at the age of 15 she just her life was just not happy anymore she needed to go on to a better place where she could be happy again.
    So I had her put  down and I know somewhat how u feel it was a very sad day for me and my family. I just hope u can find a new best friend for ur family that will not take the place of Victor but will be a new best friend for u and ur family. My love and prayers go out to u take care and God bless u all.
    O Merry Christmas and a happy new year to u also.  ^_^   

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PTLVR4IJW7YWODEJNYJJP4FWAY Christy Pedersen

    I just have to comment.  Victor’s situation is so parallel to my Major’s.  Major was with us from 8 wks till we said good bye when he was 15.  During that time he was there for me through the infertility years, deaths of my parents, and on and on.  He was the best!  He lost his hearing and sight near the end and had degenerative myelopathy which I suspect is what Victor has.  As for dignity… We walked with him in the yard and held him up so he could do his business because his hind legs wouldn’t hold him up.  He was on Rimadyl for the last few years.  But how can you decide to put down a faithful friend who still wanted to play ball – as long as we threw it from a few inches away, he seemed to feel accomplishment in “catching”.  He kept his appetite and was content and we controlled the pain as best we could with meds.  He deserved our best in his last years for all that he gave us.  We knew when the time had come – his eyes told us as much as the fact that he didn’t have interest in any play or even treats.  My thoughts and prayers are with you and Victor.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/rebecca.ingino Becky Patterson Ingino

    Hi, Glenn. I am listening to you on the radio right now. My heart is breaking for you and Victor and your family. I once read that when we loose our beloved pets, there is a child waiting in heaven for a pet. When I have gone through what you are going through now, the only way I get through it is imaging all the the furballs in my life that are playing right now with a little child in heaven. God bless you, Glenn, you are a really good soul. Victor knows that also. Maybe a little girl in heaven just wants him as her guardian now. I think his new life in heaven is going to be beautiful and he is going to make a child so happy. I am crying with you. God will take care of Victor and your family. You all are in my prayers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rebecca.ingino Becky Patterson Ingino

    All God’s Creatures Go To Heaven by N. A. Noel.

    http://www.amazon.com/All-Gods-Creatures-Go-Heaven/dp/0965253104/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363962859&sr=8-1&keywords=all+god%27s+creatures+go+to+heaven

    Please get this beautiful little book. It’s 17 pages and you and your family need this book at this time in your life.