Woman Arrested for refusing smart meter

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Glenn called this story one of the most important issues that will be ramping up in the months and years to come. A woman refused to allow workers to enter her property and install a ‘smart’ meter. The woman refused the update and ended up being arrested over it. Glenn talked more on radio today about why you should be concerned.

“Let me tell you about Jennifer Stahl. She has been a strong advocate against the smart meter program in Naperville, Illinois. She’s been talking about it and standing up against it for two years. The issue came to head on Wednesday afternoon when she was arrested for refusing to let the utility workers install the smart meter on her home. She said, ‘I was protecting my property,’ she said in an interview with TheBlaze yesterday afternoon. ‘I felt my emotion was like a mama bear protecting her babies.’ Stahl was at a friend’s house when she received the call from her husband that the utility workers had arrived. She was home within 15 minutes and saw that they were at a neighbor’s house. Her neighbor was not home, but they had signs stating that they did not permit the new meter to be installed.”

“Stahl said she waited on her porch for the workers to arrive at her house. When they did, she refused them access to her backyard through her locked gate. Police, including the list supervisor, a sergeant, were called. Stahl said the sergeant explained the workers had authorization to access the meter, but Stahl stood her ground, said she didn’t approve the new smart meter. The sergeant continued to try to convince Stahl to comply and said if she didn’t, he’d have to arrest her. ‘The City has always had and maintains the right to access our equipment and today we’re just simply exercising that right,’ says the city manager.”

“The lock on Stahl’s fence was cut and when Stahl wouldn’t step away from the meter, she was led away by an officer, cuffed, and waited for a marked squad car to arrive to take her to the police department. When asked why she was being arrested, she was told it was for interfering with a police officer.”

“Naperville Smart Meter Awareness has filed suit for which there are currently motions to dismiss as well as to grant temporary restricting orders for residents refusing meters. Tom Glass, member of the Naperville Smart Meter Awareness group told TheBlaze Thursday that he felt that the City is arresting residents for refusing is completely frightening in this day and age. The City is sending around people to read these smart meters and they don’t work.”

Read TheBlaze’s full story HERE

What does this mean for you? Glenn explained, “I hate to look like I’m anti-technology because, you know, it is an easier way to read the meters. But it is also a way to ‑ it is not just taking some information out. It is able to understand everything in your house. How, you know, how much juice are you pulling, which appliances, what’s going on. They can tell just by reading this smart meter. How many people are in your house? Now, they can do that as well but not electronically. The system can go out. They’re already, they’re already eavesdropping on you on everything else. Now they’re able to tell exactly what you’re doing in your house, how you’re using it, and then they can limit.”

Glenn encouraged listeners to “spit themselves out of the system” and look for ways to unplug from the existing structures out there that they are dependent on. Glenn said he was working on his own energy projects to do just that because he doesn’t want to be tied to existing systems further down the road.

“We’re living in a different world and new technology, you have to understand is either going to free you or enslave you. Which is it going to be? And some things, if you play into the system more than you already are, you will end up at least being a candidate for slavery. Remember when I said spit yourself out of the system, I didn’t even know what that meant and I think I used to say I don’t know what that means. I do know what that means now. You detach yourself from the Borg as much as you possibly can. You don’t go ‑‑ at least you don’t go any further than you already are.”

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Here we have the perfect example of a government gone completely out of control; she was making a stand for her private property rights and then arrested for ‘interfering with a police officer.’

    This is one more case of blatant intimidation to make an example of people, the ‘smart meters’ have been proven to not work at all as anticipated or designed or declared. They are one more means for the government to have control over the people. One more way for the system of Big Brother to be finished.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    I hope she is cleared by any justice she is brought before and then she files and wins a legal suit against the power company, police and government for violation of her private property rights and liberties.

    This madness has to be ended once and for all.

  • Draxx

    When they installed the Smart Meter in my home during an old equipment upgrade, my electric bill went up by 35% from previous bills with a known average usage bill.  I do not like them at all and do not blame others for opposing them…

  • Draxx

    The government going to start criminalizing anybody they can for more control…

  • landofaahs

    Not smart. Disable it afterwards. RFID chips in clothing etc., pop ‘em in the microwave about 10 seconds. 

  • landofaahs

    Flies are attracted to turds.  They can lie and say obama is not a pile of crap but you can’t fool the flies.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Given the masses of genuine bovine-byproduct generated daily in DC, the place should be called ‘Smelly Bottom’ instead of “Foggy Bottom.’

  • http://youtu.be/xm1F7ub00gk Sam Fisher

    At times like this I am glad that the people in my home town own our electric company and most of us here our conservatives.

  • http://youtu.be/xm1F7ub00gk Sam Fisher

    That could also be because of Obama’s energy plans of demonizing anything that has to do with coal and nuclear energy.

  • Cookie Billings

    I live in Southern Calif – I had to pay a $75 one-time fee, then I am charged $5 per month to REFUSE a smart meter.  How ridiculous is that…although it beats getting arrested!

  • Anonymous

    Now that really scares me!  What’s next???

  • Anonymous

    Big Brother is alive and well – and He lives in Your house.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YXXYZONLBJHO4FEP6OYCNXCXBE max son

    land of the jails 

  • Anonymous

    She wasn;t interferring, it was her land.  She was just making it clear she didnt want it, and it WAS hwe PRIVATE LAND!!  The police had no cause to arrest her!!!

  • Anonymous

    I’m afraid that I would NOT have been arrested for interfering, rather more inclined to something involved with my 2nd Amendment right. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WPANNK5UJQDL6INNB6SIGPZXRU Sharon B

    Honestly, I think they need to change the makeup to unscented or a different brand.

  • Anonymous

    To Quote Ronald Reagan… “I’m From the goverment I’m here to help”:…….
    Yeah Right! This is the new form of Nazism…the main reason for not havng
    them is the intrusivness and control how much power you use if they feel you
    use too much they can make adjustments….. I PAY FOR IT!!! IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS HOW MUCH I USE!!! IF you are giving it away for free then you have a say…
    otherwise provide the service I PAY FOR and don’t try to dictate it’s use!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WPANNK5UJQDL6INNB6SIGPZXRU Sharon B

    People should note that all monitored security systems have the ability to eavesdrop inside your house.  I’m not as concerned with the appliance monitoring, however, if anyone is, there are ways to separately hook up appliances to solar cells and batteries.

  • Anonymous

    Private property isn’t private anymore. You may only occupy the property that you pay for as long as it continues to serve the interests of the government.

  • Anonymous

    Piss on government – legalized crime syndicates, one and all.

  • Anonymous

    Smart meters have far more capability than most people realize.With a minimum sample rate of 900 samples/sec thats 810,000 data points for every15 min transmitted burst of data at a resolution of better than 1 %. With that much data I could tell you when you get up, turn on your light, start your coffee maker, when your elec hot water heater kicks in for your shower and when you shut things off to leave for work. Then I could easily set flags to let me know if you deviate from your normal pattern such as get up late for work, stay home from work, have a housequest while your at work etc. Coupled with smart appliances, big brother will have the capability of monitoring and controlling your power usage.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RMZIVAYC4XMKA4MIFBRGBN5RS4 Anonymous

    You all need to educate yourselves on smart meters before getting sucked in to the negative hype.  Smart meters are not capable of doing all that you say.  It cannot tell what people are doing in your home or even what electrical devices are in use.  

    Furthermore, the meter on your house is the property of the electric utility.  It is not your private property and you have to grant the electric utility access to it.

  • http://twitter.com/ase_automaster Loren Moore

    Becoming a police state.  First smart meters, next . . . . . who knows.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1638829508 Brad Morton

    You know Glenn, for a person who is as worried about civil liberties the way you say you are, you would think that you would stop cuddling with neo-cons, come out of the republican’s closet, call yourself a libertarian, and stop pissing all over Alex Jones.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RMZIVAYC4XMKA4MIFBRGBN5RS4 Anonymous

    You have to pay a fee because it costs the power company more to read and maintain your old meter.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1304752604 Ken ServelloJr

    sorry………….it’s mandatory, she has NO choice,you can’t REFUSE it when  they need to make the upgrade……..it’s still their equipment.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/J6TYDHRALYFZXRG6LN6QVMXU6A Old Timers

    I’m in Ontario Canada.  We had the smart meter installed last year and our bill went down $50 to $60 per month.  We have a business in the home and we are about $120 to $130 per month now – down from $180 to $190.   We have a tiered system. Winter it is: 11.7 cents 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. / 10 cents 7 a.m. to 11 a.m. and 5 p.m. to 7 p.m. / 6.5 cents 7 p.m. to 7 a.m.

    A lot of our neighbors have the same situation in that they are saving money with the smart meters. 

  • David Inglehart

    I am curious about people’s perspectives on this subject.  I understand private property rights but it does raise a couple of questions and I’m interested to see that you think.

    I would not have arrested her but since the meter does belong to the power company, could the power company say that the new meter is a requirement to have service?  Could they have just said, “no smart meter, no power from us” and taken the old meter and left?

    What about if the company, because the stated reason for doing this is to eliminate manual reading of the meter add a monthly surcharge, let’s say $10 or $15 a month to have a meter reader come a read the old meter?

  • otterbay

    The only way to spit yourself out of the system is to install solar panels and throw the main breaker on your electrical panel.

  • Anonymous

    Though the rules and regulations vary by state, generally as
    a electric customer, you agree to allow the power company to access and
    maintain their equipment in exchange for their providing you electricity.  Legally, it is their meter and they do have
    the right to access it. 

     

    Don’t want them on your property?  Disconnect your electricity and stop using
    their services. 

     

    Personally I think they went too far in this case.  I work for an electric utility company, and I
    have never seen anything like this.  If a
    customer refused a smart meter, we would first try and work through it and even
    allow them to keep an analog meter.  They
    may be charged extra for it, but this was ridiculous.

     

    To clear some confusion on smart meters; not all smart
    meters are created the same.  Though some
    models are capable of communicating with appliances in the home, and being
    disconnected remotely, the models we use in our utility are only able to relay
    the kilowatt hours used each hour of each day. 
    Beyond that, no other information is available.  We still have to send someone out to
    disconnect power and there is no communication with anything past the meter.  This is a cost effective benefit to the
    company without stepping too much into the lives of customers.

     

    Beyond that, anything else is out of bounds in my
    opinion.  I would have a fit if they
    tried to install any meter that could be shut off remotely, communicate with my
    oven or furnace or adjust my thermostat. 
    Anything like that is too far.  I
    really do wish they never went as far as they did go in my company; I used to
    be a meter reader and really miss the work.

     

    As far as an increase in the bill, there is a very good possibility
    for that that has nothing to do with dishonesty.  As meters age, their accuracy drops.  The new smart meters are fresh out of the
    factory and have all been tested for accuracy and reliability.  Take that freshness and replace a meter that
    has been aging for 10 years or so and you are going to gain back the accuracy that
    was lost over time with the old meter.

     

    Overall, I do agree with Glenn.  Try and become as self sustaining as you
    can.  In addition to that, talk to your
    states public utility commission with concerns and urge them to protect your
    rights.  Seek to put honest and
    dependable people in your state government that can make a difference.                  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Loes/1429458907 Donald Loes

    there used to be a time when I sent my meter reading in to my power company every month. why cannot this be done to day, they have a way of making sure you don’t bilk them on the usage.

  • Jim Stanley

    I oppose smart meters too. My parents were jacked into some sub-industrial rate bracket because their new electric (upgrade from oil) furnace caused their usage to spike over 25kW. It was the smart meter that allowed the utility to see that spike lasting more than 15 minutes and alert them that there was too much being used. They later raised the limit to 35kW, but still.

    All that being said, you have to look at the facts. The thing is, she was arrested for infringing on the UTILITY’S property rights. They own everything up to and including the meter. Part of the contract you sign gives them the right to access THEIR equipment on your property. What she should have done is make arrangements to have her home taken off the grid. Give them back their old meter and put a blank panel in its place.

  • Anonymous

    This is a utility trying to do they’re job… I normally like Glen Beck but he needs to do his homework before spouting off about these meters I work at an electric utility and these meters can not tell how many people are in your home I as a rep can not tell you what appliances are pulling what all though that would be helpful…… stupid article

  • Mike Grunewald

    that City Manager needs to be flock in the Town Square  I am fighting these  bastards here in Texas,I will protect my property,I also ,when they installed my new drop I told these people at AEP to get my  RF meter that I paid for back,to keep these assholes off my property ,I will shoot the first SOB that jumps my fence

  • Anonymous

    draxx, hows your homemade wind generator and food growing research coming along. I think you can help me in my food growing tech products and I can expand your thoughts on wind “collector ” technology. jozepi1@comcast.net

  • http://www.facebook.com/kmarquardt1964 Kevin Marquardt

     I work for a power company in Wisconsin. A standard service application includes authorization for the power company to access and maintain their equipment. If you don’t sign the agreement, you don’t get service. I’m sure somewhere she signed off on a clause similar to this..  If she doesnt want a smart meter, she does have the option of not getting her power from them. There are many alternatives..generators, windmills, solar.There are times to pick a battle with big brother, but in my opinion this isn’t one of those times. The power company isn’t big brother, nor do they appreciate big brother. The use of this technology is a considerable cost savings to the utility. This allows the power company to hold down costs to the electric consumer.  Glenn is exaggerating a bit on the capabilities of these meters, but they can do alot of amazing things. In this case the city operates the power utility, but in most cases the utility is investor owned. Trust me, the power company has no interest in gathering PRIVATE information on it’s customers. They hate the government infringement and intrusion as much as you and I do..Regulations, political posturing and NObamas agenda will cost not only power consumers, but power providers as well. That is a battle we should all take up!

  • Jim Stanley

    Off subject, but I can’t stop myself:
    If Alex Jones doesn’t want to get pissed on he should get out of the toilet.

  • landofaahs

    Flatulence by any other name is still democrat speak. LOL

  • landofaahs

    Yes oh wise one.

  • Anonymous

    use “startpage.com” as your search engine. the most private search engine in the world

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.ney.5 Jeffrey Ney

    You know the utility company can just disconnect your power should you decide against a smart meter, right? Then what will you do without electricity?

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.yeager.75 Mike Yeager

    She should have had her power disconnected 2 years ago, when she started he protests. Then they would have had no reason to be installing anything on her property.

  • landofaahs

    Be smart folks.  If you cannot fight the machine, be a grain of sand in the gear-box.  Mountains and oceans can be traversed by man and anything built by man can be overcome also.  —A semi-quote of G.S. Patton.

  • Jim Stanley

    You would know all that about me and then you could ensure there is just enough overhead in the lines to power my hot water in the morning instead of just guessing, “well, lots of people shower between 5 and 9 am, crank it to 11!”

    I’m not saying someone with too much time on their hands couldn’t do what you propose, but I doubt the power company is going to go into that much detail.

    I’m with you on the smart appliances though, that stuff has some real spooky potential. I’ve said it everywhere I post about this that when the power company can read my thermostat and charge me more because I think 68F (or whatever greenie-weenie, carbon-friendly setting has been dictated) is too cold in the winter, they’ve gone too far.

  • Jim Stanley

    Lol! Actually, if they don’t know how much you use, they can’t know how much to charge you for it. ARE they supposed to give it to you for free?

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.yeager.75 Mike Yeager

    It may be her private property, but the lines to the meter and the meter are the property of the power company. She could have had that property removed from her property any time she wanted.

  • Jim Stanley

    So you would have been arrested for threatening deadly force in denying the utility access to THEIR property? Do write us from prison.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kmarquardt1964 Kevin Marquardt

    The Power company isnt big brother.. well in most cases anyway..and no they cant tell what appliances you are running. they measure electric usage, plus have many other capabilities to help reduce utilities costs and provide better service. Anything from remotely disconecting service for chronic non payers to poor power quality alarms, to sending a signal to the power company within 1 miute of losing power. Imagine this.. you are on vacation for 2 weeks, it is 10 degrees outside, and your power goes out. Only yours. in the old days you would return from vacation to a home full of frozen, busted pipes and water. Now? I get a call w/in 2 minutes to restore power to your home. You return from vacation, and other than having to reset a few clocks, you would have no idea your power was ever out.. I hate big brothers invasion of privacy as much as you!

  • http://twitter.com/1tutunene Eileen Forster

     Finally, a sensible solution to the problem! Give homeowners a choice. What’s so hard about that?

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.streams.3 Tony Streams

    This is a double edged subject. As stated, the power compay reserves the right to update the system that they maintain, if you want to use this service. But I feel that this technology is to invasive of an individuals privacy. So instead of investing in the stock market, invest in alternative energy like wind/solar, so instead of plugging into the “mans” system, you are reaping the energy the lord has povided us with. Then this same man will owe you money in tax deductions. This is ridiculous and I agree with this women (to be clear).

  • landofaahs

    Part of the persona of cult is the idea of invincibility.  It does not exist in men.  It does exist in this obama who not only is not a HERO, but is in fact a ZERO.  He has come to destroy this economy through financial collapse.  Make no mistake of what he and his followers are.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mark.the.hiker Mark Christopher

    I like Glenn, but c’mon people.  All a smart meter does it report your electrical usage so they don’t have to send anyone out of read the meter.  Sure, SOME meters can be turned off and on remotely, again, saving a trip by a guy in a truck when you don’t pay or when an apartment goes vacant for a while.   I do NOT understand the paranoia.   My meter reports DAILY usage to the utility and I signed up for reports, so I get daily reports of my electrical usage (which is really useless, but it was interesting for a while!)       I just don’t understand the paranoia – but maybe that’s because I understand what it does.  (I should also point out I am working on a project with a major utility to upgrade their radio system in the trucks… I’ve been hanging around these guys for five months – and I can tell you, they are totally baffled by the ongoing nonsense.)

  • Anonymous

    They can read a meter twice a year if they will give the owner a card to fill out and mail in, and physically read it only two times a year The card has the meter pictured and is easy to fill out and read the meter.  So to say it has to be monthly is ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    I would not ~threaten~ deadly violence. I’d also be just as content getting free lodging.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000620320455 Tea T. El

    These meters are carcinogenic and make some people ILL.  This is an outrage!  We’ve turned into Nazi Germany for sure!

  • Kat

    Watching the Electric guy change the meter is kind of scary. He has a full face mask on because of possible flashback

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GLCPHUBBS6GSFNLGVIKDOX253I JoAnn

    If Obama gets away with his cap and trade and/or “carbon credit” BS, I can foresee them using these smart meters to “ration” what electricity they think you should have, and cutting you off when you reach that limit.  After all many people in Third World countries have no power, or only for certain hours of the day, and Obama does not think it’s right for Americans to have more than third world countries have, so he wants US to be Third World with rationed electricity too. To a global collectivist anti-colonialist/Communist like Obama, this seems perfectly reasonable.

  • Anonymous

    We had a smartmeter installed unbeknownst to us and our electricity bill went up almost double! They check it througout the day and if you’re using during what they consider “high volume periods” which is anytime between 2:00-7:00, you risk getting put into “category 5″ which is a high user, and thus get charged peak prices! It’s ridiculous.

  • Slayer88

    Inteferring with a police officer, I believe that is what they are charging people with, in Illinois, that film the police although the police have been told several times by the courts that there is nothing illegal about it….

  • Anonymous

    Its sure good to know we live in such a FREE country!! Free to do what we’re told!

  • Gregory Mirsky

    She wins if the judge isn’t Obama’s buddy

  • Gregory Mirsky

    We are persistently moving to North Korea via Soviet Union under the brilliant commandment of our Commander-in-Chief

  • Anonymous

    Jim, you make some good points. Unfortunately the devil is in the details. If you read jesse berst, smart grid newsletter, you will see that they are actively deploying meters and data collecting infrastructure far beyond the capabilities needed for simply monitoring our average power usage. I designed process control instrumentation for the petrochemical industry for years and this equipment is comperable to industrial control and measurement equipment.The ONLY reason to develope this type of data collection infrastructure is to establish detailed monitoring and control as it is in industry. Once they control when you can use your appliances then they will effectively control the schedule of your life. They will have you forced into when you can do laundry or take a shower or cook. They are also working on smart water meters and smart gas meters. They will have us dutifully ariving home at the appropriate time to use utilities when they say or else we will have to wait for our next alloted window of usage. We will be wary of having quests over if it will interfere with our rationed resources,be careful not to dirty too many clothes, no extra showers, no extra lights at the wrong times and on and on.

  • Anonymous

    Having that type of monitoring and control capability is the only reason they need smart meters with this level of capability. THE ONLY REASON!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I urge you all to read Jesse Berst ” smart grid newsletter “. As a process control instrumentation engineer I can tell you that the only reason to develope a metering and data collection system of this capability is for control. Smart electric meters combined with smart water and gas meters will provide control of our life schedules. When we can cook, wash our clothes, take showers, turn on lights and air conditioners. The only effective counter measure is to disconnect from the grid or ” buffer ” the grid with backup energy, food and water storage. Also dont forget that they are planning on rationing health care, medicine, food and gas. That will come as they try and put chips in us. Also Europe is already transitioning to a paper cashless system for closer monitoring of all financial transactions and it will only be a matter of time before it happens here.

  • Draxx

    I am attending a Bio-Char Conference this next monday, and from what I am told by the coordinator we don’t have any direct competitors for a 200 mile radius.  And I guess there are people attending already that have many questions for me…

    I am building a 3D Plastic Printer to do a Scale Prototype to put in a wind tunnel to test new concepts.  I will send you an email with some more details, and yes I am willing to help you with Organic Growing Techniques.  My business partner also has an Enriched Soil Production Company and they grow red worms and harvest castings for their product.  They have asked me to become a Sales Consultant, Process Engineer, and Equipment Designer; to taylor make blends to suit different growing needs (I am excited to add this too).

  • Anonymous

    FIDEL OBAMA and a totally CORRUPT FEDERAL GOVT needs to be overthrown, but before we gather the muster to do so, will crush under its own weight.  They think they are the frickin Kings of England, the monarchs we overthrew over 200 years ago!!

  • Anonymous

    The day they install for me is the day I will destroy the damned thing!

  • Anonymous

    I am a research and development engineer as well as a manufacturing engineer. I developed process control instrumentation for Panametrics in waltha m ma, specifically I brought to manufacturing the xx68 series of ultrasonic transit time flowmeters. The division and my products were sold to General Electric and are sold by GE ( GE measurement and control,  flow) . I have been researching wide bandwidth ( steady state to impulse ) collection of ambient energy ( wind, solar, thermal, pressure differential ),no turbines, no propeller blades, t otally out of the box thinking. Im looking to d evelope a wide range of new products designed to facilitate off grid living for food, water and energy and mass producing them before china can copy them. Im going to start with consumer products to help people get of the grid then continue into commercial, industrial and transportation products.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1209512798 Ed Hardiman

    Tyranny takes many forms throughout American history. We stand on the shoulders of men and women who faced down the tyranny of their time. The real question is: will our children have the same strong shoulders to stand upon?

  • Anonymous

     I’m worried about enough of us, our generation having strong enough shoulders. I watched the HBO movie/documentary John Adams over the summer and I was floored. All of the exact same principles apply today. We need to protect the 2nd ammendment more than ever, tyranny is not coming, it is HERE!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/COJ3MPIMILKNOZLFQSTZAUIS2E Rick

    This woman is completely correct.  We should totally avoid this technology, allow our energy grid to be congested, pay people to perform unnecessary work and blame our problems on it based on circumstance.  Break out your tin foil hat everyone! The government is going to read your brain and your meter is going to give you cancer that apparently your cell phone, that operates more frequently and in the same spectrum, doesn’t do!  These are apparently things that weren’t possible before!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2HC2OA62HIFL64R6K5MA7C5F74 gator

    Are there not trespassing laws? Privacy invasion laws? wtf? I’m sorry but if someone wants to force themselves onto my property, they best have just cause.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GW6ALM3N2YFTOT6TN3GZGAHQG4 Frank Balcer

     to break/cut the lock, does the office need to have a warrant first? I did not hear that being mentioned.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GW6ALM3N2YFTOT6TN3GZGAHQG4 Frank Balcer

    i wonder if you could jam the radio frequency?

  • Draxx

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  • Anonymous

    What can we do to help this woman? Does she need her fines paid?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=696592550 Jamie Cote

    For at least 3 decades, fiber optics have been placed in televisions, These fiberoptics are in place for seeing and listenng into our homes, Are these so called smart meters just an added tool to access our homes and invade our privacy and spy on us?  They are now putting out ” smart televisions”.
    Here in Canada we had no choice. These smart meters were installed when people were out.
    However, some did as this woman did and defied B.C.hydro. The meters, surprisingly enough, were not installed if hydro was told NO and people were not arrested. They will enforce it at some point.
    I hope this woman wins the fight but it’s not an easy task going after large corporations.
    One day this tool will be used to control the populations and they will do what they have always done to get their ay. They will use scare tactics.

  • http://twitter.com/nutts2020 nutt

    More fuel for the tin-foil-hat-brigade…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1209512798 Ed Hardiman

    During the Revolutionary War, 1/3 of the colonials were pro-British, 1/3 were pro-revolutionary, 1/3 were neutral, the question we have to ask ourselves right now is in which column do we belong?  The choice is stark, stand and deliver or do nothing…I believe all the patriots who fell since 1776 so we could stand free deserve better than our going out with a whimper…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=581834054 Ginny Auldridge

    the radio frequencies are more dangerous than any from cell phones

  • Anonymous

    Here we go again, agenda 21 at it best, taking over private property rights… we are being told that we have no rights or say about what can be done on our property’s, this is why I am totally for getting of the grid, wood burning stoves for heat, and solar for lights, even better yet a generator run but water power and your own step down transformers..  Glenn keep up the good work, blinders are staring to fall. 

  • Anonymous

    Holy cow Glenn. They can tell how many people are in your home at any instant?  Not at all. Do a better job than this.

  • Shane

    This is more government liberal fascism.

  • Anonymous

    Holy cow joe,lol  thats not the half of it. read up on the capabilities of smart meters, dont read the blogs, look at the manufacturers sights. The sample rates and resolution of the new smart meters will tell you within 1/900th of a second/ 24 hr/day what is going on behind your closed doors. Thats when you turn on a light or you start your washer, couple that with smart gas and water meters and they will know when you go to the bathroom. Once they start turning things on and off they will regulate when YOU need to be home to wash your clothes or take a shower. I designed process control instrumentation for industry for years to do exactly this, and it was for monitoring and control, nothing else. But dont believe me, just wait and do nothing, youll see.

  • Anonymous

    lol, keep your eyes closed and go back to sleep, everything will be fine, big brother will take good care of you.

  • Anonymous

    The only effective counter measure is to buffer yourself from the grid with reserve water, gas and electricity supplies. Store energy from the grid during off peak hrs and use it during peak hrs. This prevents them from knowing how and when your using these resources.

  • Anonymous

    read ” jesse berst, smart grid newsletter ” they send you your usage for the day, but the info they get, depending on the meter used, is usage every 900 hundreds of a second. That means, with the appropriate statistics package, about the computer power of a modern calculator, they can tell what YOU are doing, when you get up, when you turn on a light or washer etc. Wait until they can turn on and off your appliances, thats when the real fun begins for those who are not prepared.

  • Anonymous

    amazing how many eople refuse to open there eyes and see whats going on and therefore empower O- liar- in chief to do what he and his minions are doing.

  • Anonymous

    I endeavor to be a boulder :-)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/INPMEL7XARC4JXPLD6X2NIAEQI kathleen

    In Florida, FPL reps get angry when you refuse smart meters, say it’s agisnt law to refuse meters, AND meters will decrease cost by long distance reading and eliminating the meter readers.
    How’s that for bull.

  • Anonymous

    I am not concerned about the utility company knowing exactly when I turn on light bulbs and/or my washing machine. That doesn’t tell them jack about how many people are in my house nor what we are doing. They can guess, but I can also just leave my shower running for 10 hrs straight and they’ll think I am harboring an army. I’ve got much bigger things to worry about that this. So, I’ll wait and do nothing (about smart meters) and we will indeed both see.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jhon-Kacan/100003185883958 Jhon Kacan

    First in my opinion a COP was wrong,a arrest was illegal,City no have no rigth enter in no property if a owner denie,only in case of real emergency can enter,like crime scene,fire,some need ambulance or need a Court order.Thare are simple way I call dems way,where ignore all Laws and rigth and abuse a power.If I a Police Chief I fire a COP in a spot, and prosecute him for trasspasing and power abuse.That is sign how are liberals.

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.cassity.75 John Cassity

    global kill switch

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.avers.16 John Avers

    It is Naperville’s meter.  She shouldn’t deny them access to it.  But at the same time,  they shouldn’t have arrested her.  They need to work out a solution.  If nothing else, turn off her electricity.

  • landofaahs

    No doubt that you can put them in a group og QNA’s. Let the sheep get slaughtered.

  • landofaahs

    I hope youare successful

  • Anonymous

    There could be a  problem with people that have pacemakers, people that have electrical problems with their hearts like Afib, arrythmias.

  • Capt Tee

    I can see both sides of the arguments in this case.

    The power company has the right to access their old style meter.

    The property owner has the right to protect their property.

    Rather than arrest the homeowner, they should have said “We are removing the old meter.  You can opt out of the new meter if you want, but you won’t have electricity.”

    If denied access to the old meter the power company should have just cut off power at the power pole and billed the homeowner for the old meter, if they didn’t return it or change their mind.

    There was no emergency here that required calling the police.

  • Anonymous

    How do we know what the police tells us is not made up? I have never heard where anyone is allowed on your property without consent. Granted the maintenance of equipment supplied by utility companies guarentees certain liberties, but not access to a locked area. The event in question happened in Illinois and the crooks run their government, state and local.
    I allowed a “smart meter” to be installed and already the electric bill seemed to have increased 10% the normal.

  • Anonymous

    “Smart Meters” are part of Agenda 21, folks.  Do NOT let them install it in your house.  Next thing you know, they’ll be back, claiming eminent domain in your private property and shoving you of your own land.  Agenda 21 is not coming, it’s already here.  It is not puppy dogs, lollipops and rainbows.  It is pure evil with one goal- destroy as much of humankind as possible.  And no, I’m not a conspiracy nut.  Agenda 21 is not a conspiracy. It’s 21st century Fabianism.  Look it up. 

  • John Gregory

    Usually they have an easement, meaning they can access their equipment by crossing over or through your property in order to get to their equipment for maintenance, repair, etc.. it is usually mentioned on your deed when you purchase your property and is completely legal (because you agree to it when you sign it). The problem is people don’t read what they sign, including the deed to their property (title search, schedule A, schedule B). If it wasn’t there, you could stop your entire neighborhood from having power in the event a transformer went down and they needed to cut across your yard to get to it and repair or replace it (in the event you refused access like this woman tried to do) that’s why they place those deed restrictions. Now there is a case for not allowing it. or getting it removed, but I doubt you can do that without the utility companies written consent, and that’s not very likely… the cost of civilization… I guess we can all move out to the country where there are no utility companies and avoid this problem… if we can find uninhabited country that is… :-) 

  • http://www.facebook.com/darby.casper Darby Casper

    that was stupid. if your gona bitch go all the way. standin there and lettin em cuff her was dumb. the meter was installed she will live there after she bails out. either go all the way or get out of the way…

  • http://twitter.com/tgace tgace

    Yes you sign a contract with the power company giving them rights to access their equipment, but violating that is a breach of contract…not a crime. That’s not something you should even have a cop showing up at your door for.

    Yes they have a right of way…but denying them that right is not a penal law offense. They can cut off your power, they can jack up your rates, fine you…but you shouldn’t be getting arrested. This was a civil law violation. The charge laid here (interference)is indicative that the cop couldn’t find an arrestable violation of penal law. If a power company shows up and the homeowner refuses to let them on the property the charge in the end shouldn’t be interference….what was the legal action the COP was performing that the homeowner interfered with? The power company had the “right of way”….not the officer. Police have the ability to arrest on a crime that happens in our presence or on probable cause. Keeping someone off your property in this situation is not a crime in the legal definition.

    If there was a public emergency necessitating immediate access to utility lines/connection they could charge “criminal nuisance” or perhaps reckless endangerment if the property owner interfered. What was the immediate emergency necessitating an arrest in this instance?

    I don’t know much about the meters and some of the protests over them seem a bit “tin hat”. But just because the power co. has “rights on paper” to access their equipment that doesn’t usurp the property owners rights. This should have been a civil matter…these coppers made an unlawful arrest IMO. They didn’t even know what to charge so they fell back on the “interfering with a police officer” charge.

  • lrywlf

    It sounds good but what guarantee do we have that in the future this doesn’t evolve into a situation where the government will monitor our thermoststs and eventually take control of them? We have had bunch of nannys get their panties in a wad and now a restaurant owner can’t allow a legal activity in his place of business,smoking. They decide how much soda they think we should drink and make it law, for crying out loud. I can;t wait for the idiots to get to toilet paper. The one constant among socialists is that they can never get too much control over our lives. Being of the elite the socialists know how much smarter they are and we should just shut up, get on our knees, and ask them if there is anything else they want. Myself , I can’t do that because when I was in North Vietnam in ’67 I made a committment to die on my feet before I’d live on my knees. Besides, they don’t work as good as they use to so I’ll stay on my feet.

  • lrywlf

    What Ronaldous Magnus actually said was that the ten scariest words in the English language is ” I’m from the government and I am here to help”.

  • lrywlf

    That the cops in IL decided to arrest her rather than having the mentioned alternatives available is a good reason to be mistrustful. Why do the people in charge insist on this meter or nothing. I have a skeptcism of government and politicians that is far reaching and all emcompassing. I study history and the more I learn the more I am astounded by the level of malfeasance in our government. They have actually caused Indian wars. In the Indian Peace Commission of 1867′s report about the misbehavior of the Indian agents it is clear that politicians are the lowest form of life.  The agents were stealing the food and money that was for the Indians and the Indians were starving. This Peace Commissions report claimed that the Indian agents were not appointed to these positions for their honesty or qualifications, but for their party affiliation and their willingness to allow the stolen money to be used in nefarious schemes of local politicians. The report claimed that surely indian wars were started by this, and as if to illustrate their abject ignorance they were giving these Indians, arguably the most warlike society this world has ever seen, especially the Comanches, while they were starving them, weapons.
    If there is any way these meters can arrange for the gvernment to have more power and control over us we need to get rid of them. If they can gain more control over us they will.

  • http://www.facebook.com/george.reagan.56 George Reagan

    The Gestopo strikes, again.  BHO and his minions will/have become Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Ho, Che, Castro and other commies/Nazis, mass murderes.  Another 1776 is on its way. 

  • Anonymous

    I never heard of smart meters on houses but this reminds me of the little units Progressive insurance is pushing on people to put in their cars because it is supposed to save you money.  They say it has no GPS tracking device but monitors how much and how you drive.  Who would knowingly allow that to be installed on their car?  Progressive Ins. is owned by a very progressive liberal Peter Lewis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Lewis_(businessman) CHeck out this link and where he donates his money.  

  • mrwidemouth

    Smart Meters – something to be afraid of? http://www.squidoo.com/beware-of-smart-meters

  • Anonymous

    They ALREADY know how much we use! THEY don’t have the right to interfere with how I choose to use it! I PAY FOR IT!!! Jimbo you are an idiot.

  • Anonymous

    Part of the perceived problem with “smart meters” is that they are much better at accurately  tracking your overall energy use.  Many people’s electric bill will go up once a “smart meter” is installed.  Not because the utility is charging you more, it’s because it’s accurately documenting your total electrical energy consumption.  The older analog meters were simply not accurate.  Compare analog music to digital, or standard def TV to HDTV.  Digital or HD is simply a more accurate representation of the music or image.   Same is true for the digital smart meters.  

  • Kerry Taylor

    Man, my husband needs a raise! He is the lead computer architect on the Smart Grid for several states. He doesn’t make near enough money if he has designed the system you think he has. You are all sadly misinformed about the SmartGrid and its capabilities.  Glenn needs to talk to someone who KNOWS the system and how it was designed. Stop spreading the fear.

  • Kerry Taylor

     You are being billed for ACTUAL use now.  Also the new meters are far more accurate. A meter that is 20+ years old has over the years became less accurate. It’s one of the studies that had to go on before the meters were even installed.

  • Draxx

    If you mean “more accurate” by utilizing newer calculation methods, then we are on the same page.  The New Meter sends two readings to the power company.  1.) Maximum Kilowatts per Hour (i.e.; morning startup of cold machines).  2.) Kilowatts per 24 hr period/Day. Then they take the highest KpH Reading and the Average Kph broken down from KpD, the Mean/Average between those is used multiplied by a 30 day period.  That is what we end up getting billed… my actual meter reading no longer matches my bill in Cost per Kwh! 

    If that is what you mean by “More Accurate”, I will take my old meter that just shows what has been consumed on a monthly basis…

  • T beckster

    There are definite health and safety issues involved with smart meters: the World Health Organization has classified wireless, non-ionizing radiation (like that used in the meters) as a Class 2 cacinogen; many of the meters are not UL-registered, as required by the National Electrical Code; they’ve been linked to fires which have destroyed homes. (God help you if you’re in the service area for FP&L and a smart meter fire burns your house down– the Florida Legislature in their amazing wisdom has exempted that utility from any liability: http://www.wsvn.com/features/articles/helpmehoward/MI92249/.) Not to mention all the hacking and privacy issues.

    The fact is that the smart meter is really a cornerstone of Agenda 21– and the beginnings of a stealth campaign to implement cap-and-trade, since its proponents couldn’t get what they wanted through a legitimate route.

    I suggest that people do what Glenn Beck alway advises: do your own research. Here’s a good place to start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JNFr_j6kdI

  • Anonymous

    FPL installed smart meters on my neighbors homes (End Feb 2012) and I got extremely sick and had a seizure not even 1 week after the installation. FPL removed the meters from my neighbors homes and I got releif in 1 1/2 days. April 1 2013 city installs smart water meters and I get the same side effects again and have a seizure 1 week after installation. on April 4th after calls to my city council members the city removes my neighbors water meter my my box on the front lawn and moves it 50 feet away and I am still sick. I have another RFR water meter at the end of my driveway accross the street. The city is aware that the smart meters induce seizures in me but would not remove the RFR meters and would not give me a zone of safety around my home. On  April 17th 1 12 hours after my husband got home I have a seizure and go to the ER. The city council tells me to get a lawyer the city administrator will not speak to me nor will the mayor. I can die from a grand mal seizure and my city politicians do not care. I called 911 and filed a police report that the city was knowing harming my life and the police opened a case.

    Next state attorney’s office and I just called my state rep.

  • Anonymous

    I am an installer of these “smart” gas meters and I will tell you a few things:
    1. The meter is property of the utility.  It sits on personal property, however, so I understand the qualm here. If I were that utility I would take “my” old meter back and turn off the gas. IF you don’t want what we use to supply gas, so be it: NO GAS.

    2. The smart meters are more accurate. Your bill goes up because it spins at a more accurate rate.  There are droves upon droves of meter sampling programs mandated by the state to watch over this.  It’s highly regulated. 

    3. Smart meters means less meter readers. This means less vehicles, more efficient staffing, etc. 

    4. Smart meters communicate the usage and that is always up to interpretation like anything else.  There are way, way, way too many utility CUSTOMERS than there are utility WORKERS for everyone to be spied one by one based on usage. Get over yourself.  We don’t care how many times you shower.

    5. We have natural gas in plenty of supply.  If we didn’t, and had a shortage, whether we knew your gas usage daily via a smart meter or now and again via a meter reader either case we’d eventually know how much gas you are using and if there were a national crisis they’d probably ask everyone to put skin in the game, regardless if your meter is smart or not.

  • Anonymous

    Woops. I thought this was in reference to Gas, which our version of “Smart” is nothing like the “Smart” Electric meters. I must clarify this. Sorry

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