Missouri’s incredible gun control law that could make you a felon

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On radio this morning, Glenn had an unbelievable report from TheBlaze that explained how Missouri Democrats were pushing a new law that could make you a felon if you don’t turn over your guns!

TheBlaze’s Jason Howerton writes:

Democrats in Missouri introduced startling anti-gun legislation that would require gun owners to hand over their legally purchased so-called “assault weapons”  to “the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction” within 90 days.

Under the proposed bill, “Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution.”

Here are some additional provisions found in the gun control bill:

(1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;

(2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or

(3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.


5. Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.

“I’ve collected a lot of guns that, you know, there’s some guns that I have I’ll never fire. It hurts their value if I fire it, okay? There’s some guns that I have from the 1800s that I just don’t want to fire. Okay. But there are also some guns that I have purchased because I can, it’s my right, and I have put them in a trust so my children can have them. I knew I needed to buy them because I could be grandfathered in,” Glenn said.

“You don’t change the law and make it retroactive. That’s not what we do.”

“What this law is saying is there’s no grandfather law. You bought it; you’re now a felon. Never have we ‑‑ never have we done that. Never have we done that,” Glenn explained.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Welcome to the ongoing fundamental transformation of the United States; Obama knows he cannot get gun-confiscation done via the Congress, so the Democrats will achieve it step by step in each state possible until Obama can claim “the states are doing it, so I will by executive order.’

    The retroactive outlawing of firearms is unconstitutional and blatantly at that, as many courts have proclaimed. Those who vote for such a law should be subject to immediate recall votes and never allowed to hold office again.

    We are seeing the last stages of the Democrats and their Socialist and Communist allies final play to control and dominate America.

    • Draxx

      Anybody that Votes to Inact a Law that takes away firearms, should be prosecuted for Treason (not in Eric Holder’s Justice System, but held by Public Tribunals and that way the wish of the Masses Will Be Enforced…).

      • Anonymous

        I would prefere “Tar n Feather”.

        • Draxx

          They should have “Traitor & Felon” Tattooed on their foreheads and forbidden from ever holding a Public Office Again!  (All of Them that would pass a Law like that.)

          • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

            Actually with any politician there is one overwhelming shame that they cannot stand, and thus the most effective, full public shaming and revelation of all their crimes and deeds – then put them on trial.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Janika-Skembo/1177116822 Janika Skembo

            The thought process of this thread is why we lose.  There is no shame for people with the disease called Moral Relativism.  It is a neural disorder where they cannot feel the beating of their own heart.  It is a complication of the conscience-ectomy proceedure that is routinely performed at University, but through the wonders of technology this procedure is now done wirelessly through distorted media and entertainment to increasingly younger patients.  There needs to be political consequences for traitors and felons in public office, but that requires convincing the voters who keep electing them that there is such thing as wrongdoing and justifiable punishment.  We learned from the Clinton Impeachment that Americans no longer cared about right and wrong, honor or shame.  Pay closer attention to Glenn.  It is about culture from the bottom up.

        • Anonymous

          Don’t forget the rail…….

        • Anonymous

           …or run out of town on a rail.

          • Anonymous

            I personally favor the old English penalty for treason… Public hanging by the neck until almost dead, then cut down and publicly disemboweled. It would only take one or two of these to bring these arrogant SOBs to hell and make them realize who is in charge.

          • Anonymous

            There is one I would like similar to  yours that happened in the Philippines. in rebel area in Quezon province. They punished this soldier for raping  12 yearl old girl, and extorting money from the poor people. He was brought to a Kangaroo court. The rebels read his sins, and what they did was skin-off the bottom of his feet, then let him walk on a bed of salt, later shot him in the head with .45 at the same time saying ” Death to the old society ! ” That I would like to give to those Tyrannical SOB’s.

          • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

            How about something Andrew Jackson did to a insubordinate corporal: after the soldier explained he liked to watch the general at work (after being caught sleeping instead of working) Jackson had him bound hand and foot to a board and sat upon a barrel across the road from his field tent for three days.

            He was seen by all of the army that marched past him as well. 

          • Anonymous

            Much as I love what you are saying, remember the
            Constitution. No cruel or unusual punishment.  So  all of these are a no go.  I think the public shaming is the way to go, if only the msm would go along with it instead of excusing the traitors.

        • Anonymous

           Alabama wind chimes, baby….

      • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

        Public tribunals all too easily can become kangaroo courts and showrooms. Those who are brought before the law for such violations, such as those who enact anti-second amendment legislation, should be given an open and as impartial of a trial as possible before a jury of fellow citizens.

        If convicted, then bar them from ever holding office again, they lose all benefits already gained from their former position; any jail time they serve must be time in full plus one day extra, no parole or probation.

        • Draxx

          You are right, then all 50 State Governors should decide which State should hold the Trials at their State Supreme Court (I don’t trust the Fed Supreme Court Anymore).  Keep control of the situation is best, but the Public Jury should have Three Representatives from Each State (and each states populace vote on who they should be).  Then go with the Majority Rules (not unanimous which would be impossible), They should all be tried with the same crimes due to Conspiracy, and a few should have “additional” complaints filed for their Individual Crimes!

          I know that it would be costly and time consuming… But, aren’t we already experiencing Ridiculous Cost of Gov’t?  As for the Time it Takes, well they can just sit in Prison Until it is Finalized and Punished According to Trial Outcomes!

          • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

            Indeed those are excellent ideas. Whatever happens any kind of trials of the politicians has to be done in the open, no secret door stuff – open and impartial for history, plus made available to all on live feed video and audio.

            All has to be done above the board.

    • Draxx

      No Privately Owned Weapons…

      No More America as it was intended to be!!!

    • Anonymous

       These people are never going to stop. It’s highly unlikely that this bill will make it, but just the fact that it is being proposed clearly demonstrates their intention to hamstring the free exercise of the 2nd amendment in their relentless march to governmental power. It’s always Democrats; leftists with anti-constitution agendas, who propose this kind of legislation.

      One of the most strange proposals common to every one of these bills at both the state and federal levels is the outlawing of semi-automatic weaponry that resembles military automatic weapons. Apparently, now, appearances are the dangerous part of any weapon, even if neither the caliber nor the functionality of the weapon remotely approaches that of the military weapons. This is common to Democrats. Look at their social legislation. They claim discrimination where none exists and seek to silence the 1st amendment rights of those who resist them by labeling their opinions “hate speech” which is considered unprotected by the 1st amendment. worse, normal sentencing recommendations are suspended in these cases, with ridiculous additional prison time and forfeitures which they deem falls outside of the “cruel and unusual punishment” protections of the constitution.

      Most of what liberal America wishes to visit on their neighbors is unfettered tyranny. The only way that they can overcome the constitutional protections of those neighbors is to trivialize the constitution, except when they use these protections for their own ends. These are not political views for them; it is a way of life and they believe wholeheartedly that the “purity” of their cause justifies the exercise of any means in their headlong pursuit of those goals.

      We have to fight. We have to refuse to give up one more inch in this battle and we need to start pushing back, not by silencing them, but by exposing their lies and violent methodologies to the light of day. We need to start pointing out the facts on this issue-that gun violence is greatest where people are forbidden the basic, inalienable right to defend themselves, their loved ones and those around them with deadly force and without having to ask the permission of the government. It’s time that we start identifying and calling evil what it is.

      There is simply no rational reason for what these liberals are proposing. The evidence is clearly, irrefutably against them. Eventually, they will feel the physical consequences of their mindless, relentless hatred for freedom in the refusal of our citizens to relinquish the most important right we have…the right to life, and the unfettered right to defend our lives. The moment that some fool shows up on my doorstep to confiscate weapons is the day they find out that such actions carry immediate, irreversible and fatal consequences.

    • Anonymous

      Put them in the Town Square and leave them in a Pillory for about 24 hours. Put a small screen TV in front of them and force them to watch an endless loop of the Kathy Griffin Show. I don’t think you’ll ever have any more problem with them. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/ernest.stull Ernest Stull

        What has happened in Missouri is that it has become a welfare state and with the majority being libortards no wonder the state is going to ruin. all good conseravatives need to move now or banish the tards. jesse where are when you are needed.

      • Anonymous

         …no, no, make them watch Obama’s endless speeches.

        • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

          No, if they are liberals, make them watched the unabridged series of Newt Gingrich and Ronald Reagan speeches. Or replays of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.

    • Anonymous
    • Bravo Two Six

      I hope you’re right about the “last stages”.  We can’t take much more!

  • http://twitter.com/bchorley Brian Chorley

    This is rediculous that TheBlaze or anyone in the conservative media is giving this proposal any attention. The MO Senate is 76% Republican and the House is 65% Republican. There is no way anything like this would get passed. It’s just the Democrats way of getting attention – and you fell for their trap. Now, Missouri is painted as some kind of liberal state when in fact, it is completely opposite in the General Assembly right now. There are no legs to this proposal and if you did a little research, you would know that.

    • http://www.bluesheepdog.com/ Richard

      Not sure what the republicans have to do with protecting liberty.  They went all big government a long time ago.  Take a look at how many in that party support gun control policies.

      • http://twitter.com/bchorley Brian Chorley

        Well, This is the MO Democrats strategy – propose outrageuos bills and get media attention. They’ve been doing it every week of 2013 – they put out something they know won’t pass and call a press conference to tell the media about it and something like this gets picked up nationally when it has no chance of passing. It just falls into their strategy of getting media attention. If it acutally passed through the first hurdle of getting a bill passed, then that would be news. You can propose stuff all day long, but nothing is going to happen unless it gets passed the first step. This is a lot ado about nothing.

    • Anonymous

      This is what I keep posting when this is reported. Gun control laws have pretty much a zero chance of passing with the current make up of the Missouri legislature. This is just a few St Louis liberals grandstanding. Even they know their proposals won’t go anywhere. At this point, keep the focus on what Obama is doing by executive order and don’t waste too much time worrying about Missouri passing any gun ban laws. I am willing to bet that even most of the politicians have guns and I am not sure I know anyone who doesn’t have guns. A proposal means nothing when they have not the votes to pass it.

      • Draxx

        Then if the Private Citizens have to lose their guns, so should the Security Details for Politicians (Because if we do not have guns, then they don’t have any more threats of being shot, Right?).  Oh, but I forgot that is a One Way Street, “Do As I Say, Not As I Do…!” (The True Progressive Motto)

      • Anonymous

        What I would add to your assessment is, let’s say hypothetically this one state WERE to implement their extremist anti-gun laws.  It would be insignificant compared to an executive order from Obama.  People would, as Glenn said move somewhere else.  
        If I can draw an analogy, if you were a Massachusetts citizen that was opposed to Romneycare, you could move elsewhere.  The only distinction between Romneycare and Obamacare was of course that one was statewide, which still leaves room for choice, whereas the other is nationwide which means no choice.  Yet the left called both programs the same.
        What this party of pro-CHOICE is trying to do is eliminate all of the CHOICE of the everyday citizen.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Desade/1587910978 Mark Desade

      That’s good to know about Missouri.   Because this law would violate the “Ex Post Facto” clause of the US Constitution, according to my lawyer buddies.  It woudln’t pass muster.  However, I think it is good that The Blaze brings this to everyone’s attention, if just to keep gun owners on their feet and prudent.  Politicians are sneaky little devils who try to abuse their powers, so let them be ridiculed in public, even if their proposed laws have no chance to see the light of day.  I do have a question though, if Missouri is so republican in their state government, how come they keep re-electing Claire McCaskill, a democrat, to the US Senate?

      • http://twitter.com/bchorley Brian Chorley

        The only reason is the vote in St Louis and Kansas City. Too many city liberals to overcome a state wide election. Plus it’s hard to overcome when we put in a republican who implodes his campaign.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Desade/1587910978 Mark Desade

          Makes sense.  Good point regarding the republican who ran against McCaskill.  Some republican senators ran inept campaigns when they had a good chance of winning.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BGC7U7QUFEWSSV3H4IFHLAFK54 mudslide

       There are no legs to this proposal and if you did a little research, you would know that. . . . . .

      I hope you’re right – the thing is that these kinds of proposed laws are even considered, whether they have “legs” or not.
      Who does that??? Of all the real issues that NEED attention, why even bother??
      Democrats have the worst priorities of anyone I’ve ever seen.

    • Anonymous

      O.K. everybody ignore this….. that way nobody well notice when it fly’s under the radar and gets passed…. Opp’s to late now turn them in or else….

      Good luck with that, come and get them… Lock-N-Load

    • Anonymous

       It is important to report on. People of MO need to know who these people are that are proposing such legislation for voting in the next State Elections.

    • Indiana Todd

      Brian, actually you fell for their trap!  You seem to be comfortable because “today” they cant possibly get this through, but you are OK with them still being your state politicians .. Sounds like they are running a test, and you are cool with it!

      Wake up Brian, Someone in your state government, has the mindset to strip guns from the general public in direct violation of the 2nd amendment… This is treasonous!Unfortunately all you can say is “Ah don’t worry, it wont pass” (and likely you are right, it wont “this time”) but the real issue again is they (someone) IS THINKING ABOUT IT… Likely to just see who will speak-up and to see what opposition they will get at a later time. Seems to me, the people of the state of MO better wake up, I mean you all DID ELECT THEM!  If you don’t throw them out on their keesters soon, in 4 to 8 years it just might become the law and then you can’t!  What will you say then?How about exposing the traitorous politicians now, and get them out of office so this never comes up again?

      • http://twitter.com/bchorley Brian Chorley

        They have been pointed out – every week this year they have been trying this – throwing up crap to see what sticks! They are of no consequence here – they are from liberal districts in St Louis that will ALWAYS be liberal. There’s nothing that can be done about it at this point – there will always be liberal politicians, and in Missouri’s case, there are about 3 conservatives for every liberal. You act like we can wipe them out just like that. That’s not how our system works. It would be nice if we could have 100% conservative politicians, but at some point you have to be realistic. 3-to1 is a pretty good ratio in my opinion. The liberals throwing stuff up against the wall have been known in this state, at least for the last several months, to be nothing but media-holics wanting nothing more than media attention. You can waste time talking about this garbage that isn’t going anywhere if you want to, but the poeple of Missouri already know about these whacko liberals and no one is giving them attention because it is not credible legislation. Just look at the headline above – “Missouri’s gun control law…” it’s not even close to being a law and TheBlaze wants to make you think it’s a law so you get all riled up. I thought it was “if you control the media…” and here you let a few whacko liberals control your stories. Who is controlling the media now?  

    • Anonymous

       And this is why those conservative people voted to reelect that dingbat, Clair McCaskill? Gays and liberals have been moving to various parts of the country, specifically red states in order to skew elections. All it takes is a simple majority in the right counties in the right states to get things done. It doesn’t take very many people and the left has been very patient and very cunning in their strategies. http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

      • Anonymous

        Alinskyites at their finest.

    • Anonymous

      Thanx Jesus
      This is no longer your daddies country they know what this will do they just want to see who WILL NOT COMPLY
      There watching , GOOD

    • greywolfrs

      The point is not whether it will pass or not. The point is Democraps showing their colors and spelling out EXACTLY what they want to do. Call it a window into their stupidity, if you will.

    • Anonymous

      That IS what he said. The point of the story is that the Democrats are not going to give up. They will take advantage of any and all of these shootings to try to push forward the progressive/liberal agenda. High on that agenda is removing guns from the hands of the people. It’s very difficult to get rid of the constitution when the people can enforce their rights through an armed response. This is significant. The story is even more significant in light of them introducing these types of bills even against the tide of opinion against them. It reveals exactly what the democrat/progressive/liberal agenda really is. They do not care that everyone knows what they are about now. Their guy is in the white house and couldn’t care less about the constitution. They believe that they are NOT in the minority, no matter what the facts say, because, again, their guy is in the white house. They think that their agenda can be brought about by the circumvention of constitutional guarantees to inalienable rights in spite of the fact that the majority do not support them. Obama has already proven over and over again that he is willing to “go around” congress and the supreme court. He sees the constitution as an annoying inconvenience preventing him from implementing his agenda, not as the law of the land. Those democrats in Missouri KNOW that even if they were to be successful in their efforts, confiscation of legally owned weapons would result in a supreme court ruling reversing the law. Therefore, they have joined with Joe Biden in encouraging Obama to simply circumvent the constitution, set aside any potential ruling by the supreme court (there are 4 cases with national implications for gun laws before them now), and simply enforce the liberal agenda through executive mandate. How do I know this? Because, if you listened to the state of the union address, he once again threatened congress. He said that if they did not pass every one of his executive mandates through codification in law, he would be “forced” to go around them through executive mandate. After all, he and Eric Holder have determined that only HIS branch of the government matters. The other two apparently are not checks and balances, they are evil and he is the savior of mankind sent to overcome evil. It sounds crazy right up to the point that Obama’s own words and actions clearly show the congruency of what, at any other time, would be wildly speculative.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffrey-Gower/1665603403 Jeffrey Gower

    I don’t suppose that any new gun-turn-in law would be limited to handguns in St. Louis, Clay, Cass, Jackson and Platte counties, where the overwhelming amount of murders are committed by guns in Missouri.  So few murders are committed with “assault weapons” that a complete turn-in of these weapons would hardly make a dent in the Missouri murder rate.

    • Anonymous

      I would add that a turn-in of handguns would also have no affect shootings and on gun murders in those areas, simply because the law abiding citizens that would have to turn them in didn’t and don’t commit those crimes in the first place.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/MR7ZUYO3BPKSKMKAEVZSNNG76Y TTPOMTYNGETAFM

        in reality, the gun crime would increase as it did in the UK and Australia when they confiscated handguns.  The UK also prosecutes its citizens when they defend themselves in their own homes.  When that happens, violent crime increases rapidly and there’s more violent crime in the UK and Europe because of their irrational fear of guns.  They should respect the propensity in aggressors to commit crime and then allow their citizens to defend themselves in the same way a police officer or polictician is allowed to defend themselves.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1292413845 Deanna Henry

       EXCUSE ME, sir, but as a law abiding citizen of Jackson county, Missouri I find your remarks reprehensible. According to you, because I live in a populous county, I am to be stripped of my God given rights. They will play hell taking my weapons BECAUSE of the crime rates, you imbecile.

      • Anonymous

        Don’t sweat it Johnson Co. MO resident not far from Jackson Co.Come on out we got your back not to worry.

    • http://www.facebook.com/michelle.styles.313 Michelle Styles

      Banning guns increases crime. Look at Australia and 25% increase in violent crime and crimes with guns since banning guns from private citizens. Look at the states with the toughest gun laws in the nation. new York, Illionis, Washington DC and what do they have in common? The highest murder rates in the nation, the highest assaults involving guns in the nation. Look at pro-gun states like texas and Alaska with amoung the lowest crime rates and lowest murder rates in the nation. 

      Last point I promise. Do you think “Gun free zone” or “Well armed cirtizens” would deter gun violence? Well the first one just makes the bad guy realize he is the only one with a gun.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VV43JCAOFDHTMBQH37KCMILJMQ ScottA

      “committed by guns”?  Really?  The guns committed these murders all by themselves?  Wow.  If you can’t see the error of this logic, there is nothing I can say to help you.

  • landofaahs

    I doubt Missouri will go along with that.  “Show Me” the idiot liberals.

  • landofaahs

    If they pass it, it will be known as the “State of Misery” not the “State of Missouri”. 

    • Draxx

      In the Army we say that if you have to go to Fort Leonardwood, then you have to go to “Misery”…

      Now they are trying to make it a True Statement!

      • landofaahs

        They used to say bad things about Ft. Riley too, but the area is booming now.  At least in comparison to a lot of places.

  • Anonymous

    MO resident here. There’s no way this passes. These are progressivist extremists in St Louis who are just looking for media attention. Annoying dung flies.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1567465367 Doug Tjaden

       This is correct, however you’re missing something.  they are using this to enact the dialectic process and claim that it is no more “extreme” than HB170, which is one of the strongest 2A protection bills in the nation.  They can then claim they need to find a “middle ground.”

      Nothing close to this will see the light of day in MO.  It’s about using the Rules for Radicals to blunt 2A protection.

      • Anonymous

        Right here with ya brother there are some here that want civil unrest  and some here like me will not rest.
        Be blessed

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LQIUMOUJ2X3TYOEONAPQVJODP4 The Jode

        “Middle ground” my a**.  What part of “shall not be infringed” don’t they understand?  I’ll be happy to explain it to them.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly.  Another MO reident here too.  Both houses (House & Senate) are strong Repub control.  As ‘bossmanham’ said, jus some progressive jagoffs from the shit_y side of the state (STL) trying tomake some news. Will get ‘shot down’ faster than it took to pesent it.  And yes, I meant shot down.  We don’t take any s_it from that those types, here in MO.  It’s not called the Show Me state for nothing…we’ll show the libtard progressives who actually run this country!

      • Anonymous

        Dambed right western MO  resident here this will not fly ! If it get’s off the ground that’s were it will crash!!!

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/LQIUMOUJ2X3TYOEONAPQVJODP4 The Jode

          I’m moving to MO in one month.  Can’t wait to get out of Liberal Wisconsin to a state where the Constitution still means something.

    • Ben Gillis

      That’s good news … for now.

      But, I wouldn’t stay comforted w/ that.  A single-digit percentage behind GLBT has turned the tide of this nation … without a majority .. being shot down in many votes … yet still gaining ground.

      Why?  Too little ***active*** opposition.

      • Anonymous

        Hey, I agree. We have to. HAVE to stay vigilant. But we’ve voted in the right people here in MO.

      • Anonymous

        In most cases, the public is not for the LGBT agenda. The reason that they are having such success is that, no matter what the public votes for or decides, the LGBT crowd then takes their case to a revisionist judge, who, like Obama, believes that the end justifies the means and so, rather than adjudicate from the bench based on existing law, they legislate from the bench, thus bypassing the will of the people, the check and balance of the executive and their own mandate as members of the judiciary in order to usurp the legal system. This is why Proposition 8 in California is about to be heard in front of the US supreme court. This case may help to set things straight there, but the one thing we can count on is that the liberals and progressives will never give up. Your point that the LGBT crowd are winning with only small percentages is valid because they are changing society through indoctrination in public schools. In less than one generation, we have seen family and morality derided, and now replaced with new legislation making it a hate crime to disagree with them. There is literally NOTHING they will not do in support of the cause.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z54A6JNSL4PBGNZNIVEZSNQX6I Greg

    I would just have to be a felon, then……

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BGC7U7QUFEWSSV3H4IFHLAFK54 mudslide

    Keep pushing it…. 

  • Anonymous

    Just let the SOBs keep pushing. At some point they will push too far and We The People are going to strike back and kick some politicians a**es. The people of Missouri need to be all over the representatives of their state NOW, not AFTER they do something so incredibly stupid and unconstitutional. The Boston Tea Party comes to mind. A little tar and feathers anyone?

  • http://www.facebook.com/kevin.kriske Kevin Kriske

    Bring guns when you come to take mine.

  • Anonymous

    Just wait.  There will be another mass shooting tragedy to keep gun confiscation on the front burner.  What could be worse then a bunch of little kids getting mowed down?  Don’t know but it has to be over the top to justify immediate action.

    • Anonymous

      You mean another false flag operation?

  • longliveUSA

    The Constitution is now officially toilet paper in Missouri.

  • http://twitter.com/ladynra1 S Rhea

    This is disgraceful! American! Please stand up for your rights and the rights of your fellow citizens! Missouri is destroying the American People and the American dream! People of Missouri should take their tax dollars to a state that recognizes their God-given rights…TX or WY are good choices. We have jobs available, too:)

    • http://twitter.com/bchorley Brian Chorley

      “This is disgraceful! American! Please stand up for your rights and the rights of your fellow citizens! Missouri is destroying the American People and the American dream! People of Missouri should take their tax dollars to a state that recognizes their God-given rights…TX or WY are good choices. We have jobs available, too:)”This is what I am talking about… irresponsible reporting leads to this type of stereotype against Missouri. It’s just a few democrats that are trying to get some attention

  • Anonymous

    Guess what boys & girls. It’s not just your guns they are looking to control. In Illinois there is a law on the books that regulates martial arts & boxing, and it is just as draconian as any anti-gun law. The best (worst) part is that the law points to regulations that don’t exist yet.

  • inspectorrick

    They aren’t Assault Weapons!  They are Simi-Automatic Rifles and Handguns.  They are not M-16’s or AK-47’s that are fully Automatic Assault weapons that they are after, it’s the standard guns that most Gun Owners have that they want.  How else can the Democrats, and other Countries ever bring America down on it’s knees under the Democratic Push for Global Control. You can’t bring in Socialism, or Communist styled Government, nor can you easily attack an armed Country.  That’s why we were able to bail out England, and France, and other countries because they could not be successful in attacking the largest standing Army in the world.  I’m really surprised that this is going on in Missouri, but then, with that Idiot Woman Senator they didn’t get rid of, I shouldn’t be.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you for bringing in an incredibly important point about this debate. We need to start forcing them to define exactly what they mean by “assault weapon”. The reason that they use this terminology is because they are trying to get “reasonable” people uncomfortable with normal people owning weapons that only the military should own. As if the semi-automatic .223 caliber AR-15 is a weapon that the military would choose for going up against the most common weapon in the world-the AK-47. The problem with this is that the usual person on the street who doesn’t understand the issues well also does not know that semi-automatic weapons make up the majority of weapons out there. Diane Feinstein would ban any weapon that even has a double action, meaning that virtually ALL weapons, excepting nearly non-functioning flintlocks and historical weapons. If they had their way, they would even remove most knives from the hands of the public. Anyone who doesn’t believe this should try to buy a folding knife with a powerful spring on the internet. There are federal laws that will not allow even a side folding knife with a powerful spring to be purchased by a normal person. If you are not a member of the military, police, or federal government, the law says that you cannot own it. So, I can carry a concealed weapon of nearly any caliber, but I cannot own a folding knife if it has a powerful spring, even though a side folding knife cannot be used to slam a blade into someone until it is fully extended. My point is, the federal government knows that the 2nd amendment forbids them from completely controlling firearms, so they exert control wherever they can, no matter how ridiculous or useless. We have to stop playing their game and expose their lies to the light of day every time they pull this stunt. It doesn’t sound unreasonable to remove “assault weapons”. But these new proposals will outlaw guns that even “appear” to look like military weapons. That’s true irony. Apparently, now, a gun that LOOKS like it could be used by the military should be outlawed. This is as honest an illustration of the idiocy of these evil people who would enforce their agendas through any means as exists. The actual substance does not matter to them. It is the idea. If they had their way, they would make it illegal to even speak about guns, thus winning through attrition.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dale.larson.3150 Dale Larson

    I have an idea, lets write a document that guarantees our rights as an American citizen; things like freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom to bare arms. No wait a minute, we already have something like that; it is call the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. We The People of the United States of America need to hold all our politicians accountable for the oath they took when they took office.

  • Anonymous

    This is discusting and all I can tell you is that in Florida, where I live this will never happen. None of the law abiding citizens that own guns here will just turn them over because some moro makes a new law telling us to do so.  The 2nd amendment protects us from exactly this what they are trying to do. Good luck with that law – I am here to tell you, I would not be handing over any of my guns!

  • Anonymous

    Beyond control this also about vote control. Felons are not allowed to vote so they want all these law abiding gun owners turned into felons. At the same time they are working on turning all the illegal immigrants into voters. A couple of strokes of the presidents pen will prove the pen is mightier than the sword.

  • Anonymous

    …and if you would stop to think outside your little box of life…Glen is warning ALL of US what is in store for us if we let this continue.   It’s not just about MO.  It’s about the whole rest of the Country…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Desade/1587910978 Mark Desade

    My neighbors and I, all combat Veterans, have been discussing what we would do to overcome an illegal and aggressive gun grab by the government.  None of us will turn in our weapons.  We have decided that if the gun grab occurs, we would get on our rooftops and start to fire on those government agents who decide to show up.  Plus, one of us is a US Navy EOD who has experience in explosives and has show us how to rig explosives in our neighborhood with remotely detonated cell phones, just like they do in Iraq.  Another one was a sniper, another an 82nd Airborne member.  We are all exellent shots.  You have to remember that there are less than 500,000 police officers in the the 50 largest metropolitan cities in America.  There are anywhere from 125 to 200 million gun owners.  Do the math; they would run out of law enforcement very fast.  And there are less than 1 million soldiers in the Army.  I would hate to fire on any government agent, especially a soldier.  But I’m an Oath Keeper and have sworn to uphold the Constitution.  My oath never stops.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KVJ4XFALABZJREKR7736SM6GCY kid cleveland

    so the state that started gun control by banning a slaves right to have a gun is at it again.An the dem’s are behind it.I think it tell me the dem’s think we all need to understand we are all just slaves so do as daddy government tell us an be quite 

  • Anonymous

    A State that trys to supercede the Constitution, 2nd Amendment, 1st Amendment, or any part of the Constitution is committing Treason. The People have a Responsibility to Oppose, and Refuse to Uphold any such Law, ot the People are also committing Treason..

  • Katie Holmes

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    • Anonymous

      My neighbor’s friend’s brother’s uncle’s business-associate’s ex-wife’s mother-in-law made $1.78 in the last month following Katie’s really stupid link.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/M2C2TYGUSXSOBBWNVFX7SXYT2M Donna

    Missouri also has house bill 170 which is completely the opposite although it is not currently on the calendar.  Our big problem in Missouri which is extremely conservative in the rural areas is the liberal masses in St. Louis and Kansas City.  Luckily I live in a county where the sheriff recently posted letters to the editors of the local papers that he WOULD DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION.  Other sheriffs have done the same.  In my county about 35 people voted for that guy they elected president.  As Derry Brownfield used to say, “it’s ignorance gone to seed.”  

  • Anonymous

    Look out mama there’s a white boat com’in up the river with a big red beacon and a flag and a man on the rail ,I think ya better call John cus it don’t look like there here to deliver the mail, now the power’s that be have left me here to do the thinkin’, raised my rifle to my eye never stop to wonder why,when the first shot hit the dog i saw it comin’, i saw smoke and my face flashed in the sky ! POWDERFINGER     I’m here and waiting you will know me as the first to die!

  • mdkrause

    Actually there is a few guys that do have a actual firing tank.

    I would like to see  the guy who is going to get some of these weapons from some of these good old boys.  HAHAHA 

    I see a reality show.   Everyweek would be a new gun grabber.   Maybe some celebrities would volunteer. 

    • Draxx

      They would just Drone Kill Them With a Missile…

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Desade/1587910978 Mark Desade

        You would need a hell of a lot of drone missiles to kill between 125 to 200 million gun owners.  Trust me, there aren’t enough missiles for that.  And at that point, we’d probably have a civil war.

        • Draxx

          I was reffering to MDKrause’s comments on friends with Tanks…

          I am a Prior Army Sergeant and have many friends with skills that could be useful, but I would hate to see more of my friends die from combat.  Hopefully, we can end this somewhat peacefully (but I know that they will not give up their stranglehold on the nation easily)…

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Desade/1587910978 Mark Desade

            Draxx…sorry about that.  I didn’t know you were referring to another comment.  Thanks for your service!  I’m a US Navy veteran.  Naturally, I hope things end up peacefully and within the Constitution.  But if not, I’m ready to take up my oath to defend the Constitution from enemies, foreign and domestic.  I and millions of others will NEVER give up our guns. I might add that A10 Warthogs or Apache choppers would probably be the weapon of choice when trying to destroy a tank.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Desade/1587910978 Mark Desade

    Some Missourians have posted here that these politicians are swimming upstream, since the Missouri State Legislature is overwhelmingly replublican.  That is good to know.  Nonetheless, we must ALWAYS be vigilant and not just assume these politicians and their supporters will go away.  Complancency leads to tyranny.  Never just assume these idiots will be laughed at.  As we can see, there are some who take these politicians seriously.  Always call or write your representative when you see these gun grabbing illegal laws being proposed.  And publicly shame anyone who believes it.  I do.  But I try and educate them first.  Ironically, all of my democrat friends who own guns have said they won’t turn their weapons in either.  But we must be vigilant; complacency is the same as doing nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Ok people! for those of you who said it can never happen here. The Constitution won’t let it happen, they can’t by pass the constitution, there are just too many gun owners. The time has come. What will you do when they knock on your door and come to take your guns and imprison you?  Civil war is inevitable !!!!!! Lock and load people! Prepare for what’s coming!

  • CapeFear

    Hey Missourians, “show me”  and show the country what you’re made of.  I’ve lived and hunted in Missouri and the folks I knew then wouldn’t stand for this nor, in those days, would a politician even dream of being re-elected after proposing such a law.  Please, make your state one in which you could be proud.

  • http://www.facebook.com/glen.paetz Glen Paetz

    Actually, there is a precedent.  In 1933, anyone who had legally “purchased” gold or gold coins where required to (as Dianne Feinstein so eloquently put it) turn ’em in, Mr. and Mrs. America”.

    And it indeed was then a felony to posses common (bullion) U.S. gold coins.

    Nice touch: the government gave you a $20 bill for your $20 1-oz gold coin.  Then, when almost all the coins had been taked, raised the price of gold to $35 per oz.

  • Anonymous

     The federal code alone is so complicated and vast it is estimated that everyone commits at least three felonies every day and if they want to arrest you they can find something. The difference now is that the power junkies are taking their masks off and going for it while they have the moment.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KOJQVAA2SJB7JR7ZSQ3EBUPOA4 Greg

    The language introduced in MO looks much like the language introduced in Minnesota. Coincidence? I think not. While folks in MO may not have much to fear, here in Minnesota, our House, Senate and the Governor’s orifice are all controlled by the Democratic-Farmer-Laborer party (with the convenient acronym “DFL”). Rural Democrats promise that they have the votes to keep the anti-2nd amendment movement from going anywhere, but all they need are a few flimsy RINOs to go along. THANKFULLY, a LOT of concerned citizens are showing up in St. Paul and getting involved in the discussion.  

  • Mike

    Kudos to everyone in here who is acknowledging that this proposed legislation is nothing more than a farce – it is. I am a lifelong Missouri resident, as well as a commissioned LEO with over 7 years of experience in a major city, and I can tell you firsthand that this joke of legislation has absolutely ZERO chance of getting passed into law here. And hypothetically, even if it did, who do you think are the ONLY means by which it would get enforced??? There is an entire LEGION of my brothers and sisters (including many police Chiefs, as well as Sheriffs), who will flat-out, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES, enforce ANYTHING which violates the 2nd ammendment, or the Constitution, which we have all sworn to uphold and protect. We, ( local law enforcement), have got your back on this one, people. Furthermore, very few (in this state, at least …) peeps would comply with this “law” if by some miracle it did get passed. Do you really think we have the time, resources, or manpower to go door to door and arrest some 2 MILLION people in this state that this proposed “law” would effect??? And if we did, do you think we have room in our penal facilities and prisons?!?!? Of course not, on both counts …. Just remember, it doesn’t matter WHAT they (or any other state, including the feds), put on PAPER, if you don’t have the “boots on the ground” (i.e. personnel) by which to practically implement and/or enforce it – it doesn’t matter. This isn’t going anywhere ……

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74XHKKOO33GPUNOPTALYL33UX4 Le

    when are the addresses of these lawmakers going to be published…….. all of them  state federal and local anti gun lawmakers… lets put the heat on them!!!

  • Anonymous

    My brother CONSTANTLY mentions that AR fact. ARMALITE not assault.

  • Anonymous

    Well apparently the idiot citizens in Missouri have even lesser IQ’s than those in CA. They just go along in lockstep with hang-wringing Dems who are still crying over Bambi’s Mother while they ignore the difference in outcome if the Principal at Sandy Hook would have unloaded a nice little subcompact 9mm into Adam Lanza’s diseased brain. Oh well, they have been trying to disarm us since 1961 under the feckless impotence of the UN who are nothing but criminals and third-world despots. I guess the advisory board for Missouri Democrats would be happy as the democrats have followed in their footsteps. I have listed their names below:
    Adolph Hitler
    Idi Amin
    Pol Pot
    Joseph Stalin
    Fidel Castro
    Mao Tse Tung
    Kim Jong Il

    Can any Patriotic Missourian spell IMPEACHMENT?

  • Anonymous

    Ain’t that AMERICA   or maybe we really are the new NEW MEXAMERICA
    WE both no brother they lie the best that’s how they do it the best for the worst for

     all of us. God Bless

  • Anonymous

    Americans (that leaves-out the impostor-fraud-closet swish-public enemy #1-in-cheef occupying OUR White House):    Heard of the move DHS will be employing with “security zones” in most border towns and some entire states, e.g., New Jersey?  In these “security zones” you may as well kiss the 2nd Amendment good-bye, because gun ownership will essentially be impossible.  AND, kiss the 4th Amendment good-bye, because DHS will knock down your door to search your residence without a permit.   obummer police-dictator state, plain and simple…how nazi-germany started, by getting rid of privately-owned weapons.  Bravo Sierra ! Otherwise known as Stierscheiss !

  • Anonymous

    My brother talks about the AR meaning Armalite Rifle, not assault rifle All the time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/todd.nelson.94617 Todd Nelson

    Obviously, these Missouri nutjob liberals have never read US v Miller which specifically protects these particular weapons as those TO BE owned by all citizens because they have military usage. It is so nice to see legislators, who are charged with upholding and defending the constitution of the United States, trying to violate it. I always thought those who attempt to violate the constitution, in the name of the law, guilty of treason.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Kuck/100000486957355 Peter Kuck

      Arrest the bastards for treason, if they try.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FNBDHXZ7EHFEMD4MCK5GG7BZCY THOMAS

    Glenn is jumping the gun (no pun intended) here. This is a few of P.C. liberals posturing for the 3 liberal areas in Mo., St. louis, Kansas City and Columbia. The republicans have a super majority in the house and senate. No way in hell this trashy unconstitutional bill will ever pass. however, it would be fun to load  up the e-mail and phone line of the 4 concerned politions who sponsered this garbage. There is also pending legislation that negates the federal governments ability to enforce any new laws they pass on gun or magazine enforcement. Glen if you are made aware of any of this, check out our House Majority leader Tim Jones. 

  • Anonymous

    “..prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in
    possession of…”   Hmmmm, so I guess someone who possessed said weapons
    ILLEGALLY are off the hook? Nicely written, Democrats!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000341866001 David Noble

    This is a non issue. The Missouri house is 2 to 1 Republican. Nothing like this will see the light of day. I’d be surprised if it gets out of committee.

  • Anonymous

    Hey fellow MO citizen’s we will all change our name now to felon FOREWARD !!!!


    I world like to see what all these so called do gooders, do when they are made to pray to allah, and there is no food on there table, I’m leaving

  • http://www.facebook.com/intothefire110 James Moore
  • Anonymous

    It’s kind of funny. All of the cops I’ve talked to said they wouldn’t enforce a law like that. 

  • http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

    If you are a conservatives living in Missouri make a run to Texas. As soon as I get the money that what I am going to do. They want to go the road of Marxist tyrants of the past in order to make us a slave to the government. I say screw you liberals you’re not taking my rights away so you can dictate everything in my life from how much money I can make to whether or not I can eat a Big Mac. These liberals want to destroy freedom of how to live our lives and I will not take it anymore!

  • Jimpsonseed

    Welcome to the new USSA…brought to you by liberalism.  I almost (and I stress the word almost) feel sorry for this country, but we allowed it and now here we are.  Get used it because it’s not going to ever go back to what it used to be.  While everyone sits around on their fat asses whining about it and not doing anything, we’ve allowed this evil to seep into every possible orifice of our political, educational and judicial system and this is what you end up with.  I talk to people all the time that were willing to vote for a candidate that had NO CHANCE of winning the election over Romney who may have taken it over the dictator that’s in there now…and you wonder why this country is so f’d up!!!  That’s the kind of logic that kills a country.  While Romney may have not been the best possible candidate, neither he nor Ron Paul are in office now.  So deal with it.  America has passed the point of no return because 98 percent of us are brain-dead couch potatoes that would rather spew their dissatisfaction from behind their laptop keyboards instead of doing something about it. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BKUXSO32JWW7YYHDIIRAFYTQ6E John Law

    It isn’t just the marxists democrats, it is also left leaning republicans.  John McCain comes to mind here.  He was for filling databases with our names etc.  Databases can be used to confiscate weapons and jail the owners of these weapons.  It is coming so close to collusion between demos and repubs that there are few differences between them. 

    Reminder:  if bill clinton and hillary can acquire 900 federal records on people do you think obama hasn’t acquired thousands more?  There aren’t many politicians on both sides that are squeaky clean.  Any dirt has already been scrutinized and has been and is being used to blackmail some for their votes and their good behavior to the messiah. 

    They all need to be recalled at the federal , state, and municipal level when they violate their oaths they take.  Look at your state constitution; read it.  When they violate it, get rid of them.  If the courts won’t do it, the people must.

    How I leave up to you.

  • Anonymous

    We need to understand that in order to affirm that all of the felons living here under the proviso of “undocumented” are actually unincarcerated criminals and are living here as guests of the Emperor.  To question “His Excellency” is racist and to question his authority is racist and to own a gun is downright evil conservative.  If the dumocrats in Missouri can push this type of nonsense, then the Emperor will follow-up with and executive order making thought illegal. (It’s amazing how a short workout on the keyboard can loosen up all that pent up energy and get the blood pressure up a couple of points)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/73ASEZOR4JZQKSI3SUH6N54XQM Phillip

    “Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession”
    Good thing they are going to exclude felons and mentally disturbed.  I guess that means the Dems can keep their guns.

  • Anonymous

    Missouri was one of the reasons for the 1st Civil War in this country with the infamous Missouri Compromise and it looks like they will be leading the way to Civil War #2!!!

  • Jesustheonlyway

    The Democrats have lost their souls.

    • Anonymous

      Correction 50% of democrats have lost their soul, the other 50% are just plain stupid.

  • Anonymous

    What’s funny about this Missouri gun control affair is that probably maybe 1 or 2% of these gun owners are actually going to give up their “assault” weapons.  The rest of them will say, “Why don’t you come here and try to take my gun from me.  Then I’ll show you the true meaning of ‘assault!’ “

  • Anonymous

    Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3.

    • Anonymous

      All the same, that did not stop California from doing the same type of thing as is discussed here. They made specific firearms illegal and required the registration of other firearms and applicaaton for permit by a date certain. Somehow they eluded the ex post facto problem. 

      I don’t get it.

      • greywolfrs

        CA did not require anyone to give up a weapon. They simply stated that those weapons could no longer be bought or sold by dealers.

        • Mark Coughlin

          Wrong. They required owners of SKS rifles to turn them in for the “compensation” of $230.

          • greywolfrs

            CA made a PARTICULAR weapon illegal. Everyone here who owned an AR-15 before the ban still have them. Anyone here who had an Uzi before the ban still has them. That was not an across the board ban that required ALL “assault rifles” (I will use the term, even though none of them are assault rifles) to be turned in, as MO is intending to do. From the looks of things, MO is not even offering any compensation. It is a far cry from the same thing. And no, I do not think CA should have done that to the SKS either. The morons in our state legislature were trying to get rid of AKs and failed.

    • Anonymous

      Not if you’re Obama and you believe that the constitution is little more than an annoying obstacle that is in great need of being destroyed, misinterpreted and rewritten, all in contemptuous derision of governmental restraint, individual freedom and following a legal road to amendment. In Obama’s world, only his interpretation of the constitution matters. In his world, the 2nd amendment is to be interpreted exactly the opposite of what the words actually say. To him, “….the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” means “the people have no right to protect themselves and others unless and until they have been given limited permission to do so by their master, the federal government. As emperor, only HE gets to determine whether or not a right exists, NOT congress, NOT the supreme court and CERTAINLY NOT the morons (…ahem…I mean… the people).

  • tmessimer

    Missouri’s legislature is firmly Republican so I wouldn’t sweat it.  But this shows the audacity and “in your face” these Democrats are.  This proposed bill will never see the floor and will help the Republicans in future elections now that the people see how crazy these guys are.  Wonder if their roots are in New England.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WJGT3JBP6DUJ4CF7N6LDK3Z3S4 Larry

    I live in Missouri, its time for missouri to wake up.  The extremely liberal democrats are running wild and trying to make laws that are absolutely crazy.  These representatives need to be put in place.  Once they are elected they  put themselves about the people.  Somehow they think they become some kind of God.  We difinately need help to get these people out of missouri and into new york….

  • Anonymous

    There is something wrong with Missouri, actually there is alot wrong with Missouri. I know, I have lived here my whole life in Kansas City but I cannot believe what I am hearing Glenn. This is an outrage and I am ashamed that this bill would even be introduced here. I mean REALLY?

  • Anonymous

    You will never get Holder to prosecute a Democrat because he owes his freedom to Obama for the failures and his criminal behavior while in office. As for and Democrat trying to pass a law against guns, sorry, you can’t. First the U.S. Constitution says you can’t, but secondly, Harry Reid put a provision in the Obamacare law that prohibits any Democrat from passing any type of gun legislation. Obama signed it into law. I suggest Americans read Obamacare ( The Affordable Health Care Act.) 

  • Elizabeth Bracy

    And so it begins…

  • http://www.facebook.com/ibantam Chris Burleson

    If this passes, I hope that 20% of Missouri’s working class moves to other states, leaving behind a higher percentage of welfare recipients and criminals.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Wise/720071306 Thomas Wise

    Grandfathering is a communist trick.  “Get a gun quickly and don’t care about your neighbor’s rights.”  And we fall for it EVERY time.

    • greywolfrs

      Hey Thomas Dumb, your neighbor has no right to ban guns, so it’s OK for dolts, like you, to infringe upon my rights, but god forbid I do the same? You are a hypocrite.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Wise/720071306 Thomas Wise

        Hey greywolfrs (notice I don’t attack you personally), all you’ve said IMO is that if the communists take away rights you’re happy with getting your gun while you can.  That’s not protecting your rights, that’s running scared.

        • greywolfrs

          Hey stupid, I have no need to “get my guns while I can,” I already have them and have for a very long time. They were passed down from my father.

          Personally attack you? Nice try, but calling a spade a spade is not a personal attack. Anyone who reads your stupidity can see you are dumb, it’s just a fact.

          In the end, I can see you missed the point entirely. Since you are dumb, that should not surprise me. You are making a case that someone owning an “assault rifle” is infringing on your rights, as you turn around and believe those weapons should be banned, which is infringing on THEIR rights.

  • Anonymous

    there is a company in mo that manufactures guns, its in fulton and it is called CMMG

  • http://www.facebook.com/ibantam Chris Burleson

    Next comes illegal search and seizures.

    • Anonymous

      Next? Is it it NOT already happening?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CW2VL25DWNXMI56V2C53W5W5RM stephane

    Problem: Martial Law will be declared if and when the people refuses. Now, How are we going to react to that? It is the ONLY lead obummer has that will allow him to stay in power. HE WANTS TO STAY IN POWER. and the reids and pelosis will do everything they can to allow this to happen. How will we prevent this from happening?

    • Free in MN

      IMHO, that would be political suicide! Just imagine, 25% of the adult citizeny becoming instant felons …. who exactly would enforce this, our brothers and sisters, sons and daughters? Were would we put all of these newfound “criminals?” The reality is that the economy would grind to a halt (and not very slowly) and anarchy would rule.
      The REALLY SCARY part is tha there HAVE been historical precedences (as we all know) and NONE have gone well!
      What we need to prepare for, my friends, is the post martial law (perhaps civil war?) reconstruction. Although there were sufficient “sheeple” to keep these charlitans in power, the line for the TRUE Americans is getting closer to being crossed each and every day!
      The ONLY thing we must fear now is complacency of the Patriots!
      Act now or pay later!

  • Anonymous

    I suspect the good people of Missouri will be voting for Republicans if the Democrats keep this up.  

  • Doc Hudson

    Colorado is racing along to pass a ‘me too’ law similar to MO but not quite as revolting (pun intended) as NY. Good times are here friends!

    • Anonymous

      But not for long…. “Good times”

  • Anonymous

    I live in Missouri I’m sorry to say. Whoever Sponsored this bill and their supporters are total idiots. I’ll work in Missouri to get them defeated in the next election. They do not have a clue as to the “Right to Bear Arms Shall Not be Infringed”. You might expect to find these kind of people in California, New York, etc., but not middle-America Missouri. Prove to me how trying to take away the 2nd Amendment rights of honest, law-abiding citizens is going to stop mentally ill individuals or criminals. You can’t because history will not support that approach. Furthermore, world history is full of nations/peoples i.e. Germany, that were systematically disarmed and then slaughtered by the millions, also China, and Russia. Japan’s Admiral Yamamoto spoke about America, and that Japan should not invade America because there was a gun behind every blade of grass. The American people will not stand idly by and watch while their Constitutional rights are shredded. 

  • greywolfrs

    This is NOT about whether or not this bill will pass. As some have stated, the state MO has too many Republicans for it to pass. This is about understanding where the Democraps are trying to go and what they are trying to do. This is about insight, nothing more.

    • Anonymous

       If you aren’t troubled by this then you aren’t paying attention. I might expect something like this from ‘the left coast’ or New York, but not Missouri. If you remember the story of “The Little Engine That Could”, persistence sometimes wins the day. It is troubling that our government reacts with that ‘knee jerk reaction’ as it so oftenly does, and with Pres. BOzo he seems to encourage it. “Never let a disaster go to waste”.

  • Anonymous

    Make them watch Kathy Griffin?  No that’s too merciful.  How about a Jersey Shore marathon?

  • Russ Tx

    Chicago/WashingtonDC….Anti-Constitution Anti-Gun strategy.  Restrict law abiding people access to self-defense by restricting guns in a few isolated cites. Then when crime goes up and murder goes up by criminals using guns, blame the guns and then GO for a widespread ban/restriction. The politicians and president are willing to have people suffer crime/rape/robbery/murder in a few isolated cites to get a nation wide ban. Wake up America.

  • Free in MN

    Inaction is an action unto itself!
    Our common problem (i.e. the “sheeple” or “silent majority”  who keep electing these dangous phsychotics) is that we seem not to be abe to get the message to the masses!
    I recall reading something by Martin Niemöller years  ago;
    “First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist;Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.” 

    Our biggest enemy it seems, could be ourselves!

    • Anonymous

      Too bad that message only gets to the “Dumb Masses”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IV7Q3RVQDO3MCMFC446A4ZLUMI Sidhecat

    So much for ever visiting that state.  But hell, why should Missouri stop there, why not go for the Bloomberg award?   Not only should they ignore that pesky retroactive thing, how about going after anyone who has ever been a resident of that fair state, what a photo op!  Oh and if you live in any state that surrounds Missouri, you are felons waiting to happen and need to be dealt with as well.  I bet Illinois would go for that one. 
    I am so glad our family bailed from the north years ago. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3K7FVQY5CFZ6EGUDR6PJD46MZA Gerry

    Paranoia [ˌpærəˈnɔɪ.ə] (adjective: paranoid [ˈpærə.nɔɪd]) is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of irrationality and delusion. Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs, or beliefs of conspiracy concerning a perceived threat towards oneself. (e.g. “Everyone is out to get me.”) Making false acuusations false and the general distrust of others also frequently accompany paranoia.

    • Anonymous

       I’m not sure what planet you live on, but all you have to do is look as far as Canada for our future if we allow it to happen. Canadians were duped into a National Registration of all firearms several years ago. Canada is now, with the help of their courts, confiscating firearms and the owners’ property(like their homes). that’s where the U.S. is headed with the help of cooperative victims like yourself. I hope that I’m as delusional as you think I am.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IV7Q3RVQDO3MCMFC446A4ZLUMI Sidhecat

       Your point? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/harold.mac.3 Harold Mac


  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Janika-Skembo/1177116822 Janika Skembo

    When watching the Fourth Amendment discussion on Real News I thought they were missing the most important point.  The quintessential purpose for the Second and Fourth Amendments are exactly the same.  We do not need to have privacy of our homes and person just because what we do in our own home is our business.  We need to have privacy so we can communicate and assemble with our neighbors to plan strategies for overcoming a tyrannical government.  Communication is a more important weapon than guns in a battle against dictators.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gbbowles Guy Bowles

    This Steve Vaus video says it all. Please check it out.

  • Free in MN

    While I fully agree with what you are saying (the improbability or impossiblity of such blatent violations of the Second Ammndmen) passing,  have but one word:
    Nuff said?

  • Anonymous

    Want to know the real reason behind this big push for gun control/gun bans?

    Here is the story behind the story… Washington is broke, no, it is completely bankrupt.  We have been in a SERIOUS recession for the last few years which has been HIDDEN by “government spending” skewing all economic data. Our current debt is 16 Trillion.  The government takes in only 2 – 2.5 trillion in taxes and other revenue sources. 

    That is roughly 8 to 1, or, in the mortgage industry it would be a 12.5% debt to equity ratio.  EVEN DURING THE HOUSING BUBBLE THEY STILL REQUIRED YOU TO AT LEAST CLAIM YOU HAD ABOUT 30% DEBT TO EQUITY (or, about 3 to 1). Contrary to the LIES, no one is buying U.S. Debt, that is why the Fed is “purchasing” (read printing money) mortgage securities and other “debts” to the tune of roughly 85 BILLION a month (or just short of 1 TRILLION dollar a year).  This is to artificially keep the interest rate near 0%.  If interest rates rise to just 2% then the debt is TOTALLY unsustainable EVEN IN THE SHORT TERM… 

    Currently the government is spending 1 Trillion more than it brings in, if they add ANY interest to that it would quickly be 2 Trillion (or more). So, here is where we are.  We are on the edges of a major collapse.  CONGRESS KNOWS THIS!  They are horrified that once Americans finally discover they’ve been robbed, lied to, and cheated they are going to want to have public executions. 

    This is also why they are attempting to undermine the military with “gays” and massive funding cuts.  They are afraid the military might just uphold their oath to the Constitution and stand with the public. So, we are about to see the REAL federal agenda very soon. 

    Taxes on EVERYONE are going to go sky high.  Private property seizures and asset liquidation are going to become the norm.  You are going to see a complete meltdown in America.  THIS is why they want to ban guns and undermine the military.

    By the way, the current debt (as of today) is 16+ trillion, or over $120,000 for each taxpayer.  However, total unfunded government liabilities that are beginning to come due is 122 Trillion or over 1 million per U.S. taxpayer.
    Check it out (from the government’s own numbers)

  • Anonymous

    I hope you people in Missouri are listening to this VERY carefully!  Get these people out of office FAST that want this to pass. If it does get passed stand your ground and fight for what you believe in, even if it means giving up your life. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IV7Q3RVQDO3MCMFC446A4ZLUMI Sidhecat

     So, I wonder if anyone is amused by Gerry’s post of the definition of Paranoia?  I wonder how he felt about the institution of so called The Patriot Act.  Did he feel all warm and fuzzy about his government when “his guy’s” did not have the power?  I am thinking, not. 

  • Anonymous


  • http://www.facebook.com/john.j.hall2 John Joseph Hall

    Missouri dont hate guns…. and it was Jim Carey that said people that own “assault weapons” their lives are not worth protecting.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn, Ever heard of a “Double action” Revolver? You do NOT have to “cock” it before every shot.

  • Anonymous

    Article I, section 10, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution provides that no state shall pass any ex post facto law. Like wise, Article I, section 9, clause 3 imposes the same prohibition upon the federal government. By making these felonies, the Missouri state legislature would be violating the US Constitution.  Unfortunately they woould have to pass the law then try to enforce it before it could be challenged in the courts.  Could we not make the legislators who voted for such an illegal law financially responsible for voting an obviously unconstitutional law into effect?  No because that would be unconstitutional but there must be some repercussions for such irresponsibility.

  • Anonymous

    As sad as it is, this event with the ex cop Dorrner is a very good reason why civilians should also own weapons.  If a person goes to Utube videos, they could spend hours if not days watching video after videos of cops beating, bullying even killing people. Then having the ‘Blue Curtain’ protecting them. Just totally sad. 

  • Anonymous

    This is the first I’ve heard about this democrat anti-gun legislation.  I don’t think it will go anywhere since the Missouri House and Senate are Republican majority controlled.  I do think this proposal is a political move to set the Republicans up.  The democrat party/socialist party does not believe in the United States Constitution. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HSJULSAVFJIJYR6PCTCUPMNXRA Take 2

    3.10 more years of Barry who and train ride n Joe…   Unless, Congress gets the balls to hire a third party for investigating Guns Ammo Murder Youtube cover up’s!  Hello! Are we awake in there…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YZBX75EKOGLKRKEWLCZJ44UHA4 Knight Ranger

    Don’t worry this won’t pass in MO,  the dems are out numbered 2 to 1 by the Rep.  it has only been read twice, and is said to die on the floor.

  • http://www.facebook.com/thomas.karlmann Thomas Karlmann

    OMG!  Thank you for the heads up.  I was actually planning to locate my Homestead in Missouri until I saw this segment.  Now I must completely re-think my location options.  My parameters were:  Climate; Gun Freedom; rainfall; wind power potential; and more. 

    My understanding, from reading “Strategic Relocation” by Joel M. Skousen, is that corruption in Missouri is HIGH (page 218-219), but prior to your broadcast, I thought the Gun Laws in MO would suffice for my needs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/stephan.bruno Stephan JackofClubz Bruno

    Glenn dresses like an autistic lesbian.

  • Anonymous

    this is exactly what our Founding Fathers warned US what  was going to happen,they knew!
    All The Left Follow The Father Of Lies,Lucifer,Who Has Been Working Since The Beginning Of Time For His Possession Of Man From Our Father Which Art In Heaven! 

  • smokehill

    Unless the voters of Missouri have deteriorated to the point of being gutless slaves, they will run the politicians backing this bill out of town.

    I haven’t been to Missouri in about 25 years, but back then the Missouri voters would have gone berserk over something this outrageous.

  • security supervisor

    if the fascists  try to circumvent the 2nd amendment they will be proclaiming war on the American people! and Obama and his brown shirts will lose not only the battle! but they will definitely lose the war big time!!!       

  • Anonymous

    Missouri’s lawmakers should be jailed for treason and removed from public office!!

  • Anonymous

    BG is lying once again.
    History has shown, time and time again, that a new law can make something a person previously purchased illegal.
    I would like to commend Missouri for having the courage to stand up to the loud and violent gun loving minority by introducing and passing a Bill that will protect innocent men, women and children.

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.burton.1865 John Burton

    Senator Brian Nieves (sp) chairs the committee that this bill has to pass in order for it to be presented to the Missouri House or Senate, he has vowed any anti-2A anything will never make it past his committee. But, that’s not to say that modern day progressives will never stop trying

  • http://twitter.com/clfmh Carol Harris

    Guess I will add Missouri to my list.  I have vacationed several times in that state but will be looking elsewhere to spend my money.

  • Anonymous

    If Missouri goes along with this, notify all criminals and crazies that this State is “gun-free” and may the consequences fall where they may.  Give the law-abiding, gun-toting citizens time to get out of town before the gun “hammer” falls.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_X2NAPSXIXUJPOPPGU6CXVFQFLA Snorri Sturluson

    Hells Bells!!!!! Anyone with incandescent light bulbs, with no water reducer in their shower head, who throws dog poop in their garden, has a compost pile, puts salt on their French Fries or eats French Fries, uses a fireplace or pellet stove, takes more than two defecations per day can be / soon will be / is a felon. And on, and on, and on. As long as population increases and is compressed into living spaces the “rules” will proliferate. Note: “Strong Fences Make Good Neighbors” and “You stay on your side of the fence and I’ll stay on mine”, are the only real rules to live by.

  • Eagle Heart

    This will not ever happen in Misouri. Tust me  on his one. The moon has a better chance of falling out of the sky than this has of getting to the floor for a vote.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FUJFFI3LNX7EVXTEXOXU2YWXAM Teddy Bear

    do you know what insurrection is?

  • Warpspeedpetey

    Here they come.

  • blackhare69@yahoo.com

     Never forced to buy a product by government before obamacare, never forced to have a certain type of vehicle before, never been forced to have a certain type of woodburning stove before never been forced to use food for fuel before, never been forced to pay a minimum amt of wages before,  income taxes raised retroactivly it just keeps coming from these facists and that is most certainly what the democrats are -FACISTS albeit with smiles

  • Nancy53410

    They want more weapons to participate in this wonderful idea of Fast & Furious!!!!   duhhhh

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1473813313 Carl Allen Green

    From CBS News, and testimony before the US congress.
    ATF Emails Reveal ATF made fast and furious happen to build a case against gun ownership.
    This ain’t something new here folks, as simple as A+B+C. These tactics can be traced clear back through the days of Sparticus. Never forget that Rome was once a republic. So was America.
    a. Create a problem. Exacerbate it as much as possible.
    b. Advertise it widely. Help it to fester in the minds of the manipulated.
    c. Provide the “solution” to the problem that the “great solver” made up in the first place. 
    As we have situations being manufactured to provide support to infringe our God given rights, we ought to be aware of some very dark tactics being used when it comes to manipulating public opinion.
    And don’t forget, good Americans died from this “Fast and Furious” government program.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Curry/1583734988 Robert Curry

    Politicians that attempt to circumvent or improperly alter the constitution or bill of rights should be IMPEACHED, and REMOVED FROM OFFICE!–Don’t like the constitution? Then get the required number of STATES to properly AMEND it, if you can! If you fail, accept it, or move on elsewhere!

  • Anonymous

    That is called an ex-post facto law and it is clearly unconstitutional.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.murray.524 Eric Murray

    It is a couple a idiots from St Louis that introduced that bill. It will never pass and if it does, bad things will happen. I will never give up my guns.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TN5TR2PUDVP2G46BT24UVFY2AQ ~!9MissBeHavin!9~

  • Anonymous

    All i have to say is that We The People of the united states should stand up and tell the goverment to shove theyre gun laws up theyre asses…… Take it as you will but i beleve in my right to bear arms and you try to take my guns beleve me when i say that if you come to my place of residants and take my guns you will get them but i will be shot dead before i let my protecters go to waste…..Come on people stand up for what you think is right and fight for it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1556086603 Joseph W. Sparks

    This is sad on many levels, too many to mention here, but the short list starts with: the soulless dumbocratic reps who are crafting this clearly unconstitutional drivel (for which they should be tarred and feathered); the useful idiots too stupid to care about what’s in the legislation before they vote for it and simply too stupid to inform them selves (who should be forced to educate themselves or give up their right to vote); the morons incapable of sufficient reason to put together that their dumbocratic reps have committed an act of treason; and the list goes on. The fact of the matter is we should be saddened about this and then totally outraged. At no time should this individual be allowed by the people whom they represent to bring this legislation. Their entire district/state should be screaming at the top of their lungs for these dumbocrats to be taken out and tarred and feathered. This is completely unacceptable. And, sadly, it is becoming the norm.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dakotacouple57469 Jeff Porter

    You know i’m not going to say this is impossible but the Missouri house is 109 Republicans to 52 Democrats and the Senate is 24-10 . Just a few nuts trying to make a name for themselves !

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWN4QMGFFCH32GZEE2BVRFZZUU g

    Bring back tar & feathers for people that vote this way.

  • Anonymous

    there never should be  any banof any firearm

  • http://twitter.com/earridaram earri daram

    until I saw the check which was of $9415, I accept …that…my cousin woz actualie erning money part time on there computar.. there moms best frend haz done this 4 less than eleven months and at present paid for the morgage on their apartment and bourt themselves a Fiat Panda. this is where I went…… Bit40. ℂom

  • http://www.facebook.com/jdejack John DeJack

    I live in Missouri an i will never surrender my weapons to anyone,I dont care if they make it a felony or not ,they dont have the right to take our guns period!

  • mercury3298

    If this ever made it I’m sure the people of Missouri would riot. The people of Missouri should make sure these idiots never get elected again.

  • Anonymous

    Have we now suspended the Constitution again. As I read the Constitution, which our law makers have sworn to uphold, it is specifically stated in Article 1 Section 9 Clause 3 that there shall be no ex post factor laws passed. Is the state of Missouri laying themselves open to a law suit that ultimately will lead to another Constitutional crises in America. When will we wake up and put these jokers out of their misery and vote them out of office in our state legislatures. If we allow this political heresy to continue unchallenged, we deserve what we get.

    That America is a nation of laws, not some jokers idea of democracy, has completely escaped these idiots who we have elected as “our representatives” in the state houses and in the national Congress and is a testament to our political ineptitude and herd mentality at the polls. We cannot continue in blind ignorance of our heritage without loosing our freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution. We are treading on dangerous waters with these elected officials who have no thought of the rights of the citizens of this great land we live in.

    Our Supreme Court has already ruled on the Constitutionality of the right of individual’s to keep and bear arms but the leftist just will not accept this and they continue to exploit national disasters to try to bend the laws and the people to their will. We must do everything in our power to stop it. If they are able to get this passed and it stands the test of the Supreme Court, we are in deep trouble. The activist judges of the Supreme Court have already demonstrated the they have no regard for the Constitution. They are legislating from the bench and that is not a Constitutional right of the Judicial branch.

  • Anonymous

    Let us be blunt: The pols proposing this are from inner cities plagued by crime, daily shootings, murders, drug gangs all done by people of low morals. Why? The liberals have created this permanent underclass by dumbing down the schools, forced integration in the name of equality, white flight, young girls having babies raised by grandparents.  All of this fuled by liberal socialist communist policies and the you owe me attitutde. These pols are indeed anti-american, anti-freedom.  They are the new Masters in The Big House.  Except they are from the very community they should protect.  Racists all.   

  • Anonymous

    Thankfully, such law will never happen in Missouri! Why?  Conservatives control the State House and Senate. The governor is a rinocrat.  Local sheiffs have no interest in having such a worthless law passed.  DEAD on Arrival.

  • Anonymous


  • Anonymous

    Welcome to a term I heard some time ago by Jerry Doyle, “creeping incrementilism”. The left will take a little bit at a time….and eventually all will go the way of smoking ban, etc. It’s the frog analogy….throw a frog in boiling water and he will jump out……put the same from in a pot filled with room temperature water and ever so slowly turn up the heat…..the frog will be happy as it eventually boils to death……by the time it realizes what is happening….it’s too late !! The scary thing is I am only 55 years old and I have been watching the “fundamental transformation” of the USA for some time…..the main difference between the Democrtais and the Republicans is that the Dem’s are running towards…..the Rep’s are strolling in that direction. We need leaders with common sense, backbone, integrity and character (defined as “doing the right thing when no one is looking” ! 

  • Anonymous

    If they decide to pass this absurd law, then I’ll become a felon. But I will stand my ground, and let them know that I am an American. I will give it to them one shell at a time. And they can take it from my cold dead hands. As an American, I was born free. As an American, I have lived free. And as an American I will die free. To make people felons based on governemnt ignorance, and their decidedly aborhent hatred of the Constitution, will not make me change my Constitutionaly protected rights. I am not afraid of government, I am just sick and tired of them waging war against it’s people. And I truly believe that there are many millions of us who will make the same stand. I stand with the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob. I trust Him and His Word. I will stand before Him to make an account of all I have done. Not the government. So, I bless the God Yahweh, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. And on Him I will rely.

  • Anonymous

    I think government officials are becoming more of a danger than anything else. They demand that we fear them when government was designed to be the other way around. The day is coming that those abusers of our rights will pay dearly. History has shown it to be so and history will be repeated. Just not soon enough in my book.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVONTN7NFYTGM7O4B4QIGRMWAU Ling Ling

    But you think racists ought to be labelled terrorists.  So, what’s the difference?  You have chosen to divide…..so there.

  • Joe Harman

    There is no chance in hell this would ever pass in my state of Missouri! This is the state democrat’s attempt to say the republican support assault weapons on the next go around of elections. Republicans out number democrats in Missouri almost 3 to 1

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think Texas will remain a safe place, because they know how strongly we feel about these things. I think they are more likely to employ their strategy of invade and overpower to force us into line with their plans. They like to send their “organizers” in to establish a voting stronghold that can influence elections, and their not too particular about how often they vote. They believe the end justifies the means. And they believe in our end.

  • skyfly757

    I live in Missouri, and I believe, at least for now, this Bill doesn’t have a chance in Hell of passing. However, the fact that it was presented is extremely troubling. Uncompromising resistance to this kind of Un-American legislation needs to continue without any letup and while ‘attackers’ will never be convinced otherwise, they will know that ‘We’ will never give up or give in!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jacob.martin.50702769 Jacob Martin

    no you wont see any mass exodus. what you will see is a bunch of pissed off hillbillies committing guerrilla warfare on a scale unseen since the American Indian wars. we wont be so quick to leave our land. we good ole missouri boys were born and bred here and many of us will die right defending the land that our fathers and their fathers fought for died for, and have killed themselves working since the founding of the state. DO NOT TREAD ON ME. I WILL NOT SURRENDER MY GUNS, I WILL NOT SURRENDER MY LAND AND I WILL NOT SURRENDER THE FREEDOMS THAT OUR PEOPLE HAVE ENJOYED AND USE EVERY DAY SINCE WE TOLD ENGLAND TO FUCK OFF. with that being said i hope every one who veiws this agrees with me. people its about time to get the ball rolling, to take back our country and throw out those who would call themselves our masters! last time i checked we were all born free and equal endowed by our creator to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660924649 Taylor Scott

    I think Utah and Arizona would be the best places for gun manufacturers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660924649 Taylor Scott
  • Brian Jones

    im already a felon

  • Jim Hamilton

    When the terrorist start suicide bombings at your local Wal-Mart and the thugs start lopping off heads or convert they will be glad we have means!

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