Why is The Pope retiring? Glenn has a theory

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I have a theory about why The Pope is resigning, something that has not happened since the 1400s. And it may be just as simple as he wants, you know, he wants to do the right thing because he’s, you know, he’s incapacitated or, you know, he’s, you know, too old or whatever. However, I mean, how many peeps have we seen ‑‑ and I don’t mean this to be offensive at all, but how many popes have we seen in our lifetime that are, at the end they’re just, you ‑‑ I mean, they’re gone. I mean, a lifetime appointment is a, you know ‑‑ we’ve seen it over and over again. So maybe he’s just different. Maybe he just understands the times that we’re living in and he feels like somebody who really is energetic, needs to be there. So it may be that.

However, when I was over in Rome last January, a year ago January I think it was, I was there and what I witnessed was a stacking of the court. When they were appointing new cardinals, what they were do ‑‑ what The Pope was doing was stacking the cardinals, and he was appointing really conservative, old‑line Catholics as cardinals. And so we were ‑‑ I mean, we were witnessing history. I don’t know of any pope that has done this. And the reason why he was doing it was because that way it would help him select his successor and it would give a good chance that he was going to be the guy ‑‑ I mean that he ‑‑ the guy who replaced him would carry on his work. That’s what the speculation was, you know, when I was at the Vatican, that’s what they were all talking about, that that’s what was going on and you’re witnessing history. And I’ve not heard anybody really talk about that. I think there’s a chance now that this Pope now knows, because all these cardinals are old too. “I might, I might linger on here for another ten years and right now I have the court packed. And if I release myself from this now, I know that I’ll be able to get in, even though he doesn’t have anything to influence it, he’s already done it. He’s selected all the people who voted. And I think he’s trying to get the next successor to be somebody who is conservative and he thinks the best chance to do that is now. Because I think the speculation that this black pope from Africa, they keep holding him up and everybody’s like, “Hey, he’s going to be the next pope,” I think that that is a ruse. I think that’s being done by those Catholics who are also in the Vatican who he’s at war with, holding him ‑‑ holding this guy up and trying to create momentum for him. Because he’s a socialist. He’s a real diehard socialist kind of Marxist guy.

He’s a Marxist through and through, which is not what this Pope is. And that’s who he’s been at war with the whole time. I think that’s a ruse to try to get public sentiment to accept that this Marxist is going to be the next pope. And I think this Pope is out because he stacked the deck.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus was the first Marxist.

  • landofaahs

    I would take the pope at his word.  In a time when the Catholic church has to clean up it’s act, it will require a person with stamina and energy.  Much of the problem with the Catholic church is misinterpretation of scripture in my Non-Catholic, humble opinion.

  • Anonymous

    “However, when I was over in Rome last January, a year ago January I think it was, I was there and what I witnessed was a stacking of the court. When they were appointing new cardinals, what they were do ‑‑ what The Pope was doing was stacking the cardinals, and he was appointing really conservative, old‑line Catholics as cardinals. And so we were ‑‑ I mean, we were witnessing history. I don’t know of any pope that has done this.”

    Everyone has a theory as to this Pope’s retirement. For whatever reason, good for him to recognize his failing health.. But again, lets get some facts. But first, we have to ignore the juvenile attempt by Beck to put himself in the middle of history-his first person narrative of being present to witness history when coincidentally he was at the Vatican when the Cardinals were “promoted”– he did this last year as if he somehow was involved.He wasn’t. Second, er, Glen while you were honing your trade as a low life shock jock, what exactly do you think John Paul II was doing–putting in “liberal” Cardinals? And who put Cardinal Ratzinger into his prominent position–that is right, it was John Paul II. The only flirtation with “liberalism” in the Catholic Church, and that was most prominently featured by the American Catholic Church, was post Vatican II. John Paul II brought the course back to the Right side of the spectrum.

    Ah yes, our favorite whipping boy– Marxism. There you have it–a Marxist Cardinal! Just waiting in the wings to contribute to the one world order to take away the freedom loving libertarians rights. Glenn–for us common folk why don’t you do a couple of things:

    1.How about you cite your research on this Cardinal. Compare it with Benedict’s. John Paul II, you know the one who hung out with your despised millionaire Irish socialist Bono on Third World debt forgiveness, blasted (in terms that only a Pope could use) dictatorships in Chile and Paraguay for robbing the peasants, held fast on abortion and was credited by Gorbachev for contributing to the fall of Communism. You know, Glenn he will  likely be cannonized some day. And Cardinal Ratzinger was appointed by him to guard the Doctrine of the Faithful.

    2. And after that, why don’t you publish your paper on the Catholic Church’s interpretation of the Ministry of Jesus as it pertains to the poor of spirit and of means. Then why don’t you try living in a poor neighborhood in any city in Africa or Central America, or South America or the Philipines, or North Philly or the South side of Chicago or South Boston for that matter. And you stand there and you tell the people that a social justice ministry is bs and don’t trust those priests offering sustinence of the soul and the occasional soup kitchen. Tell them they are Marxists. Be sure to let them know that you are a Morman with an even more fantastical version of salvation than the Catholic Church has to offer. Then get back to us with a full report on what you learned.

    Yes, somehow, Jesus’ ministry can be done without being a Communist.

    I was a devout Catholic through early adulthood. I left the Church after it was clear that the details of questionable doctrine (actually, we were not allowed to question) and the hierarchy mattered more to the administrators than the spiritual well being of the faithful. My time as an altar boy was spared the criminal conduct perpetrated on kids who followed me five years later. We found out later that my sister was married by one of the criminal priests. So I have no love for the institution and do not defend the institution.  However, what will always stay with me was the message of Jesus to minister to those less fortunate. I have been blessed to have had the opportunity to do so and I thank God for those opportunities which ultimately humble us all. Social Justice as a ministry is picking up Jesus’ teaching. And it is not Marxist. 

    I am also not qualified to render an opinion on the successor to Benedict and his strict interpretation of Church doctrine. I would suggest that neither is Glenn Beck.Shame on Glenn  Beck to dismiss the candidacy of any Cardinal on the basis of presumed first person knowledge of the process and some greater world view that would proclaim a Cardinal to be a Marxist. Greater shame on anyone for believing Beck.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    We shall know in time, yet having the deck stacked will not surprise me or most people. We shall know in the fullness of time.

  • Draxx

    As far as I am concerned this involves Freedom of Religion, I don’t care what people believe as long as they don’t try and kill me/others because of those beliefs…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1557018200 Erik Olson

    I know the truth, I was there.

  • Personal Responsibility

    BlueBoy, Glenn didn’t insert himself into the story. He didn’t suggest he was involved.  So why don’t you take your “I Hate Glenn Beck” glasses off. You’ll see events for what they really are.

  • landofaahs

    No he was not.  Marxism taught about the state taking from the people.  Jesus taught that we should freely give of our own choice according to the spirit in us.  Jesus never went to the political power of the day which was Rome and demand that the Emperor take care of the poor.  You are wrong again you little racist.

  • Barbara Morris

    As a Catholic, I have to disagree with Glenn. Very few Cardinals Benedict has appointed are “conservative”. Benedict is a Modernist and other than allowing the Traditional Latin Mass,  he has done little to restore the damage done by Vatican II and the Modernist popes following. 

  • http://doverbeach.blogspot.com Bob

    I think Glenn’s choice of words, “packing the court,” is poor. It’s only natural that a Pope would appoint bishops and cardinals whose values and judgment are sound, in his view. He has lived his entire life fighting the influence of those in the Church who would substitute Marxism for the Church’s real social teachings, and Protestant-style worship for the Church’s beautiful heritage of liturgy and music. It’s only natural that he would appoint leaders who shared his outlook.

  • Anonymous

    I just read this interesting Op ed in the washington post form 2011.

    From Jesus’ socialism to capitalistic Christianityhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/from-jesus-socialism-to-capitalistic-christianity/2011/08/12/gIQAziaQBJ_blog.html

  • http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

    Good luck trying to reason with this hater. I tried once and
    got a big convoluted answer claiming his hate is not hate just “truth”. 

  • Brock Akers

    Wow.  For someone who is so well informed and insightful, this commentary really shows that one ought not pontificate on something about which you do not know.  “When you were at the Vatican you witnessed a stacking of the court”??? Really?  You could tell somehow in January a “stacking of the court”.  Huh?  Please explain how you “witnessed” such.  It is a true fact that the Holy Father has appointed and elevated individuals who have demonstrated Catholic Orthodoxy, just as did Pope John Paul II.  That is the “stacking the court”??  Would you expect him to elevate people who had views that were not consistent with the teachings of the Church?  The thing that has really motivated me to comment here, though, is the suggestion that prior popes were as you say “gone.”  Pope John Paul II suffered mightily in the last year of his life especially, but showed the world by his living example the dignity inherent in death following a life well served.  He suffered, quite visibly, to show those paying attention that the cycle of life is entitled to respect from conception to natural death and in so doing gave encouragement to countless souls who might otherwise have simply given up.  And then who else was “gone”?  In your lifetime, there have been four popes, and only one of them, John Paul II, showed significant suffering and limitations in his later years.  Finally, the selection of the Holy Father is the result of the work of the Holy Spirit, where the right man for the job is always found at the right time.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/michellesucceeds MichelleAnn Davis

    Well, This is interesting….

    Attributed to St. Malachy, a
    ent predicted that
    there would be only 112 more popes before the Last Judgment — and
    Benedict XVI is 111.

    The list of popes originated from a vision Malachy said he
    received from God when he was in Rome, reporting on his diocese to Pope
    Innocent II.

    he prophecy consists of brief, cryptic phrases in Latin about each
    Pope. It ends with the 112th pope, named “Petrus Romanus” or “Peter the
    Roman.”

    According to the premonition, Peter the Roman would “feed his
    flock amid many tribulations, after which the City of the Seven Hills
    shall be utterly destroyed, and the awful Judge will judge the people.”
     
    The full story: http://news.discovery.com/history/resigning-pope-brings-doomsday-prophecy-130213.htm

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000186103377 Stacy Kristine Quick

     go home erik yer drunk!

  • http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

    Things Jesus and his disciples said that show that they are not Marxist and speaks out against to what Marxist do in order to gain power and take money that does not belong to them.
    1. Holding people at gun point and stealing their money in the name of fairness.
    2 Corinthians 9:7
    Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
    2. He wanted people to give money not of feeling guilt but out of love.
    Mark 12:41-44
    And he sat down opposite the treasury and watched the people putting money into the offering box. Many rich people put in large sums. And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which make a penny. And he called his disciples to him and said to them, “Truly, I say to you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the offering box. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.”
    3. He wants people to give in secret and not boast but socialist countries can’t help but boast about them steeling from the rich.
    Matthew 6:1-4
    “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
    4. Jesus own brother said that faith without works is dead but yet you want us to believe Jesus was a socialist who believe it is the governments job to do works for the poor.
    James 2:14-17
    What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
    5. Paul the guy Jesus picked after his death said if you don’t work you don’t eat but yet socialism breeds laziness because socialist tell the poor and lazy it is ok we will take care of you for life.
    2 Thessalonians 3:10
    For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.
    6. Paul also said this which sounds like he was talking to one of you occupiers.
    2 Corinthians 8:12
    For if the readiness is there, it is acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what he does not have.
    7 you take bible verses out of context and say that passages clearly talking about giving all to God your heart soul and mind and everything he tell you to give up in the name of God not state. Matthew 19:23-24 “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” Put it into context it talks about following God and giving up everything for him when he demands it. The rich man didn’t fail because he was rich he failed because he would not do what Jesus said to do and in context you can see that.
    Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”
    “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
    “Which ones?” he inquired.
    Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,’[a] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[b]”
    “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”
    Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
    When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
    Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
    When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”
    Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
    Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”
    Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[c] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.
    Clearly talking about giving you all to Jesus instead of corrupt government system that was not invented for another 4000 years.

    This statement speaks for itself but knowing liberals it needs explaining. It mean we are not to worry about anything but God and that also means other peoples money that does not belong to you.Matthew 6:25-34 therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at how the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?
    And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass in the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? So do not worry, saying “what shall we drink?” Or “What shall we drink? Or “what shall we wear? For the pagans run after these things, and you heavenly father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow for, tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of it’s own.
    Oh and one more thing there is a guy in the Bible that does sound like a Marxist but sadly for you he is the Anti-Christ. Daniel 11:24: When the richest provinces feel secure, he will invade them and will achieve what neither his fathers nor his fore fathers did. He will distribute plunder, loot, and wealth among his followers. He will plot to over fortresses.

  • mdkrause

    Maybe he is just tired and he knows it’s time to go. 

    I Bet Obama will have or atleast he thinks he will have something to say.  (BEHIND THE SCENES)  he will send some kind of request for the person HE would like to see.

    I’ll take bets

  • Jim Moch

    WHy is it anytime a Black Person gets power or aspires to power glenn thinks they are a Communist?  

  • http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

    A liberal mind living in a world of its own. 

  • http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

    Maybe he just got sick of it all and wanted a change. 

  • Anonymous

    Social Justice is comes from the Government.. You can’t force people to be kind and generous.  It has to come from the heart. Force is not a tool of God but just the opposite.  God bless the new Pope that he understands the true will of God.

  • Anonymous

    If there were actually a “god”, he’d certainly have better spokesmen then the ones we see.

    Does anyone actually believe than an all powerful, all loving entity would leave his public relations up to backwood bigots, crazed clerics, and child raping monsters? 

    Would he allow this being done in his name, by those who claimed to be in service to him? 

    The myth of “god” was destroyed by the very same who screamed it the loudest.

  • Anonymous

    You won’t find the truth through bitterness and anger just the opposite. The truth is out there don’t give up and you will find it.

  • Anonymous

    Per interpretations on the writings of Nostradamus, paraphrased, ‘…  the next Pope will be the last, and he will be assassinated. The Vatican will be overrun and destroyed during the same period.’

  • Anonymous

    Let’s focus more on our savior Jesus Christ and less on men

  • Miss Vickie

    I think the upcoming fight with Obamacare’s mandate regarding abortion and birth control is a battle that the Pope doesn’t have the energy or guts for.

  • Anonymous

    You should read a book by Jurgens titled “The Faith of the Early Fathers”, which contains letters in 100, 200, 300 A.D. by early faithful Christians which tells us exactly what they believed. And then try to tell me again that the Catholic Church misinterprets scripture.

  • Anonymous

    What would you know about Jesus?

  • Anonymous

    There are some inherent flaws in your argument, ed.
     
    1) You are judging and labeling all by the actions of the few, which is unfair and unjust;

    2) you are assuming that those who claim to be in His service yet violate His law and harm innocent children so horrendously will not suffer severe consequences for their actions when they face Him; and

    3) just because someone is screaming the loudest about God does not mean that He approves of them.  Jesus spoke harshly against the people who would pray loudly and publicly and make a spectacle of themselves in order to garner praise and admiration.  Remember, He also had harsh words for the people He compared to whited sepulchres–people who make themselves look good on the outside, but inside are filthy and full of dead things.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry Glenn, but on this one you’re sounding like you’re sitting in that smelly stuff. You seem to have opinions on many events without putting yourself in others’ shoes. Your sense of leading your supporters has made you a wacko case for POWER. Not all the time, but definitely a lot more than before. You spew your thoughts and words very incoherently which suggests that your mind cannot keep up with your blabber. This pope did the right thing for himself and his church. He realizes that he cannot perform his duties like he should and is stepping down the honorable way. I hope you will be so honorable not to criticize others like you sometimes do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/willam.stadly Willam Stadly

    we are doomed we just have to shoot all  the Socialist we can and see if we can thin them out before the do the same to us. Simple analogy here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/willam.stadly Willam Stadly

    Don’t want to live in a Socialist country,death is better as far as I am concerned

  • Anonymous

    I would not be surprised that would be going on in the Vatican or surprised thats the reason the Pope is retiring.God bless him for serving God.May his health return for him to recover to retire.

  • Pamela Peltonen

    I sure hope you’re right about this Glenn.

  • http://www.facebook.com/willam.stadly Willam Stadly

    Popes hardly talk about Child Molestation that’s what I run through my mind when I hear the word Pope, Catholic, cardinal Bishop etc  this outfit smells a little to me

  • Anonymous

    He is 85. He is not well> God is in charge. Don’t worry…Be happy !!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anne-Caluwaert/100000218117532 Anne Caluwaert

    I still remember the Prophecy of St. Malachy where he figured out the number of Popes, and the next one accotding to him will be the last. I also remember reading such thing where there was a story that someone saw a vision of him being hanged from the Vatican balcony. Another possiblity was that he was climbing a hill and being killed by arrows. I guess it is like the end times, as Jesus said, ‘ No one knows the time nor the hour, only the Father knows.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anne-Caluwaert/100000218117532 Anne Caluwaert

    Amen, William.

  • http://www.facebook.com/deena.grecogibson Deena Greco Gibson

    THIS IS ALL LEADING UP WITH BIBLE PROPHECY.  THE NEXT POPE WILL BE BLACK AND FROM AFRICA.  HE WILL BE AN EVIL MAN AND PART OF THE OLD ROMAN EMPIRE AND THE ANTI CHRIST SYSTEM.  YOU NEED TO WATCH IRVIN BAXTER ON THE CHRISTIAN TV AND YOU WILL LEARN WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD AND HOW IT LINES UP WITH THE BIBLE.  THIS NEXT POPE WILL BE THE LAST ONE AND THE 112TH POPE.  JESUS IS COMING SOON.  IF YOU ARE NOT READY TO MEET HIM, THEN REPENT OF YOUR SINS AND INVITE JESUS INTO YOUR HEART AND LIFE SO YOU WON’T BE LEFT BEHIND AND GO THRU THE GREAT TRIBULATION LIKE THE WORLD HAD NEVER SEEN.  IT WON’T BE PRETTY.  DON’T TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST 666.  I HEARD THAT THEY WANT TO IMPLANT A CHIP INTO A PERSON’T RIGHT HAND OR FOREHEAD, TO KEEP TRACK OF PEOPLE’S MEDICAL HISTORY WITH THE NEW OBAMA HEALTHCARE.  IF PEOPLE WILL TAKE THIS CHIP THEN THEY WILL ALSO TAKE THE MARK 666 WHEN IT IS OFFERED.  COMING SOON.  BEWARE.  READ THE BIBLE.

  • kay woodruff

    Pope Benedict has striven to bring the Church back to the basic tenants of the Church. He declared this year the Year of Faith and has changed back to the original liturgy of the Mass that had been changed after Vatican II. I believe that he has tried to bring into the College of Cardinals those clergy who represent the true position of the Church.

    For those of you who are not familiar with how the election of a new Pope takes place, I will try to explain. The cardinals do not campaign or push one cardinal over others. Once the Cardinals assemble and sign in at the Sistine chapel they do not talk with each other until the new pope is elected. The vote is secret. The cardinals submit their votes by secret ballot. The ballots are counted; if there is not a Cardinal who has secured 80% vote a new ballot is taken. The Cardinals do not know who received votes. Votes continue until a candidate is selected. Selection is dependent upon the inspiration of the Holy Spirit rather than a campaign.

  • Anonymous

    I hope you are right my friend Tutu would be a nasty one….

  • http://twitter.com/culturewarnotes Culture War Notes

    Dude, I’m Catholic, with grad degrees in history and Catholic theology.

    EVERY Pope stacks the deck.

    How do you think Ratzinger got to be Pope in the first place?
    JP II had one of the longest reigns in history – he chose almost all the cardinals who were voting. And they chose Ratzinger. Now, Ratzinger has had an additional 8 years to choose the voting cardinals.

    Anyone who thinks this conclave will do anything other than elect a Pope that looks a LOT like Benedict XVI needs to get to drug rehab ASAP.

    Believe me, that is NOT the reason he is resigning now.
    I’m not sure it’s all ill health either, but I’m VERY sure it’s not because he’s concerned he’s going to lose the conclave vote and might have a nutcase follow him into the chair. That point hasn’t been a concern since the 21st century dawned. No, if he’s got additional reasons, they don’t center on the college of cardinals. 

  • Anonymous

    I’m not certain “stacking the deck” was exactly the best choice of words, Mr. Beck, but it is fairly typical for the Holy Father to surround himself with people whose views are similar to his.  Blessed John Paul II dud this as well, when he ascended to the “chair of St. Peter;” after all, he hose his best friend, then Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, to be Prefect of the Faith.  But Blessed John Paul also had people on his staff whose views he didn’t necessarily agree with, such as Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz, his Secretary of State.  He welcomed differeing points of view.  I do not believe our current Holy Father has done anything differently, in that respect.  I agree however, that the African Cardinal Is too progrssive, and therefore poses a danger to the Church.  Perhaps at a later time we may find someone from that country who won’t be so controversial.  In the meantime, I believe it is long past time we  had an American pope, and there are two excellent candidates:Donald Cardinal Wuerl, Archbishop of Wasington, hough his chances are orobably slim, as e’s already 72, and Timothy Cardinal Dolan, Archbishop of New York, who probably stands a better chance, as he is only 63.  My personal opinion is that Cardinal Dolan would be a excellent successor. he would still be fairly young enough, as his predecessor Blessed John Paul, in communicating with the youth and still be able to uphold the high standards of he Church.  Make no mistake- the Faith has remained unchanged for two millenia, because Christ made it perfect.  The Church will not violate the sanctity of the Holy Eucharist by allowing homosexual marriage to defile the Lord’s sanctuart, nor shall we champion the murder of innocent chidren, so perhaps God will agree and choose and choose an American to be the Succesor to St. Peter

  • Anonymous

    Jesus, Truth and Perfection, personified, never sinned nor made a mistake.  The Truth revealed Himself to Simon Peter and Christ formed His Church beginning with Simon Peter.  This Truth is The Bible.

  • http://spacegod.tumblr.com/ spacegod

    “The Church will not violate the sanctity of the Holy Eucharist by allowing homosexual marriage to defile the Lord’s sanctuary, nor shall we champion the murder of innocent children,…”

    But violating the sanctity of young boys by priests is cool?

  • http://spacegod.tumblr.com/ spacegod

    STOP YELLING AT US!!!

  • Anonymous

    Oh Glenn I Hope And Pray You ARe Right! I Feared Those Liberal Bishops In Vatican That Ruin The Church Pressured Benedict To Cave! I Was Sad to See Him Retire…did soros get to him too?i thought..

  • Anonymous

    The Church as established by Jesus Christ is perfect.  The stewards of The Church are imperfect as we all are.  It is a mistake to reject Christ’s Church because of the reprehensible actions of some of The Church’s stewards.

  • http://spacegod.tumblr.com/ spacegod

    Sorry, but the Church did not begin with Peter. James, the brother of Jesus, was the head of the first Church. As Paul’s version of Christianity took over from the actual Truth of Jesus’ ministry, James fought against Paul’s version, and followers of Paul in the Church fudged the facts on this in order to consolidate power.

  • landofaahs

    If by early fathers you mean those of the bible, I have read them. They teach what Christ taught. My main contentions deal with the infallibility of the pope in matters of scripture and 2 the total misunderstanding of the Catholic belief that the Catholic church belief that Peter was the first pope and the line of succession. This all stemmed in my opinion with the conversion of Emperor Constantine and the marrying of Roman paganism with Christianity. The veneration and outright praying to Mary is a compromise between the vestal virgins of Roman worship. Of course I can not prove this, but If Peter was to be infallible, why did Jesus have to appear to Paul and use him to expand the church to gentiles even though Peter was at first against it until the correcting vision of the net full of unclean animals. Anyway, you and I can agree to disagree. Each of us must stand before God in what we believed in.

  • http://spacegod.tumblr.com/ spacegod

    The Catholic church was not established by Jesus. Nor Peter. It was Paul who invented all the things we think are Christian.

  • Anonymous

    Pope Benedict XVI has the “guts” but the body still fails.  The ongoing battle for souls does not end with the death or resignation of the Pope.  Not all of us are 85.  Do we have the energy or the guts?

  • http://spacegod.tumblr.com/ spacegod

    Shooting socialists doesn’t really sound like something Jesus would do.

  • http://spacegod.tumblr.com/ spacegod

    Glenn Beck has a deep seated hatred of black people….

  • http://spacegod.tumblr.com/ spacegod

    Yep. Commenter William Stadly would shoot Jesus first.

  • Anonymous

     Right out of the readings from Ash Wednesday!

  • Anonymous

    Why does a good God permit Evil?  So that we have an opportunity to draw a greater good out of it — a greater good that we do not deserve.

    We invited and do the Evil that you see.  No one has the right to do Evil.  Our fault.

    Sadly some, in their pride, become oblivious to their own faults and reject the only source of Good — and they wonder why bad things happen.

  • Anonymous

    A danger that the unwary must become aware of: so-called Social Justice does not equate to Charity. 

  • Anonymous

    Nice post.  Christ’s Church cannot to be hammered into the image of man despite the vain and endless attempts of those who would like it otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    As if mere man could conspire and usurp Christ’s declaration?  No.

  • Anonymous

     Truth is eternal.  Speculation and squabbling cannot change Him.

  • Anonymous

    I agree.

  • Anonymous

     Correct.  The widow’s two coins was enough for Jesus.  Charity has no price.

  • Anonymous

     Child molestation is never “cool”.  People do the Evil, not Christ’s Church.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCEJ2MERY53RZGU2OX5YU6IC2U DeniseJ

    Weirdly expressed, Glenn, but you make sense.  Liberals in the Catholic Church have basically warred on the Church since the 60s at least.  Trying to remake the Church in the image of the world is very much like politicians declaring the Constitution a “living document”  Sadly the one thing they SHOULD have done is LEAVE.  Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

  • Bela Lugosi

    If you think Larry`s story is amazing,, three weeks-ago my friend’s cousin basically got a cheque for $8501 working a seventeen hour week in their apartment and their best friend’s sister-in-law`s neighbour was doing this for six months and easily made over $8501 in there spare time On there laptop. follow the tips here, pie21.ℂom

  • Anonymous

    “He’s a Marxist through and through, which is not what this Pope is”
    No, you’re right this pope is not a Marxist, what he is is an ex-NAZI.
    Chew on that Beckie.

  • Anonymous

    Or maybe because most of the black people that seem to get power are racists themselves and leftists. I hate Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton but that doesn’t mean I hate my neighbors. 

  • Anonymous

    He was made to join the Hitler Youth as a child, a lot of children were pushed into it.  Kind of like what Obama is trying to do with today’s youth.  And the Pope has spoken out again and again against Hitler.  Do try to get your facts straight before you post.

  • maccamcfc

    what a load of bollox

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_X2NAPSXIXUJPOPPGU6CXVFQFLA Snorri Sturluson

    Pope Benedict XVI had to face the world wide child sex abuse scandals in the Catholic Church, the financial scandals involving the Vatican, the overt rejection of Church dogmas with the attendant fall off in religious activities and vocations. This is a situation which will take both vigor and generations to rectify, if possible. Mr. Beck may be correct in speculating that a preservation of conservative Catholicism in the face of global liberalism is the Pope’s goal. However, Benedict may view the new Dark Ages as arriving and desire that a younger, more energetic man lead the Church through the abyss of the coming liberal indulgence, economic collapses, Islamic mayhem and probable nuclear war.

  • gammie

    Go to some anger classes, man.  You need some help.

  • http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

    But siding with Marxist that takes money from people at gun point and killing over a hundred million people including Jesus’ followers is perfectly fine with Jesus. Can you say hypocrisy?

  • Michael Ford

    Vatican II was not the issue, it was an incorrect interpretation of Vatican II with the heresy of Modernism that caused our problems. And His Holiness has done a lot to promote reverence in both the TLM and the Novus Ordo. Also, what Modernist Popes have we had? I doubt you are speaking of Blessed John Paul II.

  • Anonymous

    i think Glenn Is Right This Pope is intelligent and caring . He Knows The world we are living in, read his writings…”Values In a time of Upheaval.”….he knows! He even knows the third secret of visions at Fatima! God Save The Pope,God Bless US!

  • http://twitter.com/wrightbobo John Wright

    Any new Pope will solidify the unholy
    “Progressive” social justice alliances between the Catholic Church and
    government that Pope John 11 pushed in 2005. with the publication of the
    Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, and Pope Benedict XVI’s 2009
    Encyclical Caritas in Veritate.

    These “Progressive” social justice concepts
    of Charity and Truth promote the idea of the need for a strong “World Political
    Authority” to deal with humanity’s most pressing poverty challenges with public
    money – not the church tithe nor the moral issues that cause poverty.   

    All that is needed is for a compliant media to
    smother reports of the consequences and human damage of such agenda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Larry-Feasel/100000285833008 Larry Feasel

    But..but…but…Glenn was THERE, how could he ever be wrong
    if he was there?

  • Anonymous

    Glenn Beck simply needs to shut the f**** up sometimes.
    No one needs to listen this phony Christian attack Cardinals and cast false speculation at the Vatican.

  • Paul Gunderson

    He had a pretty tough act to follow.

  • Paul Gunderson

    Is there any chance that Cardinal Timothy Dolan could be Pope?  He seems to be a great guy.

  • Anonymous

    Your comments are completely wrong or most of it is , and the part that is true has been slanted to show you know little of how the Catholic Church operates. Unless you have thoroughly studied how the church operates and what it is here for don’t comment. I am very disappointed and no longer believe you make sure you know facts before giving  your opinion. Where is your proof that the (pope from Africa) correction its cardinal is a Marxist?

  • http://twitter.com/Presc7 Presccc

    I love how “glenn” takes on ”middle America Catholicism” but yet, has a “Don Draper” photograph of himself on the left hand side, assumingly trying to connect the “good ol’times” in the most superficial and base way. Also, run on sentences appear to be his forte. Perhaps it’s that “macular dystrophy” that he has whined about. If you think that is an exaggeration, I can provide video of him, delivered on fox news, of him on a couch, in his NYC APT complaining.  

  • TylerDurden

    The pope is leaving because he doesn’t want to be held responsible for relocating pedophile priests. Run and hide.

  • TylerDurden

     Strange that conservatives don’t give George Soros the same break.

  • Anonymous

    If the Catholic Church is going to survive much like the US A Far Left Liberal Cardinal needs no be elected OK that may be a bit much but one that is open to birth control, Woman Priest, married priest otherwise it will fade away same as The Republican Party in the US is

  • Anonymous

    100,200 and 300 years ago people thought the earth was round and the sun went away at night 

  • Anonymous

    Not a chance The Vatican dislikes the US almost as much as the Tea Party does

  • Anonymous

    When will the world stop being influenced by these evil posers? The pope is about as holy as my excrement doesn’t stink. Father Malachi Martin, a Jesuit priest with true morality and who spent years at the Vatican said it best when he wrote that “the halls of the Vatican are filled with the smoke of Satan”. Be very careful to whom you pledge your allegiance and where you place your trust. The future of mankind is in the balance.

  • Anonymous

    Please reevaluate your view of the current pope, he is about as caring as Satan.

  • Anonymous

    By early church fathers, I mean the hearers of the apostles. Those that studied under the apostles directly.

    You don’t know what “infallible” means. At all. The Catholic Church does not agree with your definition of “infallible”. It is completely wrong.

    The list of popes back to peter can be found on wikipedia. This list can be generated in part by the early Christian letters (The Faith of the Early  Fathers I already recommended, written around 100-200 a.d.) No other Church can provide this proof or have it disproven. “The gates of Hades will not prevail against it.”

    Are you not aware that Constantine ended Christian persecution by the Roman Empire? Constantine did not convert until his death bed either, so the merging of the two would not have been a goal of his.

    Mary is the Queen of heaven, the mother of God. Of course she would require veneration. It tells you in “Revelations” she’s the Queen of heaven. Of all the people on the planet, she had a special relationship with Christ, she actually physically shared his blood in the womb. No other person is this special.

    Praying does not mean worship. Worship requires sacrifice, completely different. Praying means “to make a petition to”. We ask Mary to offer our prayers to God on our behalf because we’re not worthy enough to ask him directly. It’s an act of humility. If God allows her, she can also do things for us, with his help.

    Do you know who selected what books belonged in New Testament? You do realize it was the Catholic Church councils right? in 393 a.d. at the councils of hippo, carthage, etc.? But you also reject all of the Catholic Church’s authority? Then why would you accept the one decision it made regarding the books in YOUR new testament?

    More and more non-Catholic Christians are converting to Catholicism because they attempt to prove, without a doubt they are correct by researching history and digging up old historical letters. Then they discover they were wrong. Perhaps you should do the same. After all, the Bible can be misinterpreted, so go to other resources, like what did the early Christians think about the Gospels? They might have more of an idea than we do. Which is why I recommended that book. I’ll even buy the book for you and send it to you, for free.

    Most non-Catholics rehash the same old things “Constantine”, “worshipping Mary”, “Real Presence”, etc. etc. etc. But they never bother to actually go to a Catholic resource, and discover what Catholics actually believe and WHY. They just assume they’re wrong based on their own (incorrect) knowledge passed down from their pastor, family, or what they see. From my extensive research of attempting to disprove the Catholic faith on my own, I’ve come to realize, no other faith is more biblicaly supported than Catholicism. Not even Judaism. (crazy huh?) So stop rehashing the same old false crap because you’re too lazy to go do your own research.

    We will stand before God for what we believe, and he will tell us “You are being held accountable for letting your brother/sister believe that “agreeing to disagree” on life saving doctrines was a wise choice.” The last thing Jesus wanted us to do, was “let your brother/sister fend for themselves.”

  • Anonymous

    Actually Glenn was referencing his visit to the Vatican last year. His self promotion piece that does insert himself into the story  is here http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/02/19/beck-meets-with-catholic-clergy-international-tea-party-leaders-in-rome-heres-why/

  • Anonymous

    disagreeing with glenn beck is not the same as hatred. he is a media figure who has never shied away from volatile language and hyperbole-and language which many feel is hateful-he is fair game for criticism. He plays fast with the facts and needs to be called on it. 

    After reviewing my reply to you on another issue, it was long, but direct and to the point.

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.vining.3 William Vining

    No equates to forcing the greedy to help the poor.

  • http://youtu.be/R7MC2wu49Cw Sam Fisher

    But you do and you show it in your relentless attacks even when you sort of agreed with him a few times. You will know them by their fruits and you can’t hide yours. There is a different with disagree with someone and what you’re doing.

  • Anonymous

    You didn’t bother to read much of anything I wrote, did you? You just cherry=picked what you wanted so you could criticize, just like everyone elese. Not to condone the abuse, but why is there never an outcry when a protestat minister, or a Jewish Rabbi is arrested for sexual abuse of a minor? And don’t say it doesn’t happen that often, because there was a Protestnt minister arrestes just last week for molesting boys. The media gives the Catholoics more attention because our faith isn’t all that easy to understand, ans what you don’t understamd, you mock. Are you so ignorant as to believe that the swxua; abuse is about sex? and that the priests MUST be closeted homosexuals? Fool! The vast majority of sexual abuse of both young boys and young girls is perpetrated by older, HETEROSEXUAL men. It is not about sex at all for them. It’s about power. By the way, fyi– just last week, the Holy Father gave the order to the new Archbishop of Lps Angeles to strip the Cardinal, who’d just retired, of his rank, priveleges, ability to celebrate Mass, has had his pension taken away, AND been excommunicated from the church because of his complicity in the abuse cover-up. But of course, you don’t care, do you? It’s much more fun for you to make fun of us and treat us like second class citizens, all because you’re too igmorant to ask a question or two. That’s okay though, because Jesus told us that following Him wouldn’t be easy. I pity the fact that you’ll never have an intimate relationshjp with Jesus because you’e too busy being mocking and hardhearted. I’ll pray for you, anyway.

  • Anonymous

    We all stink.  The stench and smoke of Satan is everywhere. We invited it. The future of mankind is finite.  There is no balance.  We cannot save ourselves.  We know how it all ends:  Man fails.  Horribly.  The difference between people is that some try (as we are all called) to crawl out of the cesspool, others wallow in cesspool, still others try to pull people back into the cesspool and finally there are those who drown and lay at the bottom of the cesspool.

    Pope Paul VI wrote about the “smoke of Satan” in this Homily:

    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/homilies/1972/documents/hf_p-vi_hom_19720629_it.html

    The Homily is in Italian and the quote from that Homily states: “Riferendosi alla situazione della Chiesa di oggi, il Santo Padre afferma di avere la sensazione che «da qualche fessura sia entrato il fumo di Satana nel tempio di Dio”.

    Pope Paul VI was commenting on the state of The Church and after witnessing the effects of the the Vatican II Council.

    Christ created His Church.  The allegiance is to Christ and His Church.  The Pope is the servant of the servants of God.  The Pope trusts God.

  • Anonymous

     Some even thought it was flat.  Our mistake, not His.

  • Anonymous

    Christ’s Church does not fade away.  People reject the Church and the people fade away.  Any “church” that is open to embracing Lies is no church at all and is merely a group conforming to the people’s evil desires.

    By the way, there are married Catholic priests, though they are rare.  Most are married Episcopalian “priests” who convert to Catholicism and special permission is given.  Theologically, in this case, there is no impediment.

    Do your homework.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone will be held accountable for their sins.  That includes: gossip, bearing false witness and calumny.  No one “gets away” with anything.

  • Anonymous

     As if the decision is determined by so-called “chance”?  No.

  • Anonymous

    The concept of “Social Justice” (as the socialists think of it) is neither Charity nor Truth.  It is a thinking that, ultimately, there is no privately-owned property and seeks to undermine the Seventh and Tenth Commandments.  The Catholic Church recognizes true necessity and good stewardship of property and self.  The Socialists vainly desire to replace God and Truth by a false promise of equal prosperity through theft.

  • Anonymous

    Forcing the greedy?  Rich and poor alike can be greedy.

    When all is done, the co-called Social Justice is about forcing the greedy poor to give to the destitute poor.

  • Anonymous

     Very nice post, indeed.

  • Anonymous

    Deena please go back on your Meds

  • Anonymous

    Not surprisingly, that makes no sense whatsoever. 

  • Travis Simpson

    DukeNukemAll – It is quite obvious that you really don’t know anything about the Catholic Church.  Social Justice has been an issue for the Catholic Church for quite some time now, it’s not something new that has just been a recent development.  The Church is meant to be a unwaivering constant in a world that is ever changing.  The Church is there to remind us to be human, to be Christian, when so many changes are taking place in the world.  Just look at the issues of Abortion, Euthanasia, Gay Marriage, etc.  These are changes that have become widely accepted or are about to be due to Progressive influence in the world.  The Church has resisted these changes and have reminded the people that these types of changes take us further away from God’s plan for us.  That being said, I think the Catholic Church is more necessary and more needed now than any other time in recorded history.  The right leader at the right time now in the Church is crucial for the Church to maintain it’s stance against such Progressive policies.  Pope Benedict realized that he doesn’t have the energy or the proper health to continue this battle and he is determined to make way for someone who does….it really is that simple.  God Bless him for that humility, God Bless the Catholic Church, and God Bless this world.

  • Travis Simpson

    Glenn – I love you and I love your show and network of conservative media sources.  I believe that you are a good man…one of the best in our time.  However I have to whole heartedly disagree with you on your assessment of this Pope and his actions.  You simply do not have all of the facts.  You are not a Catholic, so I do not think that you have a complete understanding of  the inner workings of the Church.  I happen to work for a Catholic Diocese in the United States and happen to be a Director of a Curia Office in that Diocese.  I can tell you that this Pope is acting out of pure humility in recognition of his failing health.  He realizes that he does not have the energy to carry out the functions of his Office to the level needed in today’s world.  This is why he is stepping down.  He is the Vicar of Christ and as such he will do what he thinks is best for the Catholic Church.  The “stacking the deck” statement is really a “low blow” Glenn.  This Pope, as well as Pope John Paul II have elevated Cardinals that have demonstrated the Church’s commitment to be an unwaivering reminder to us all of Christ’s sacrifice for us all and for us to live our lives as close to Christ’s teachings as humanly possible; to resist the evil ways of the Progressive movement that seems to be taking hold on many of the world’s nation’s and societies.  The “stacking the deck” statement that you’ve made is not made out of mean spiritedness on your part, but out of ignorance of the Catholic Church.  I beg you that if you do future coverage of this issue that you please get more education on the Catholic Church, from someone who is living a true Catholic life.  I have a number of sources for you to contact who can do a much better job educating you than I can; if you are interested please contact me and I can definitely assist you in better informing you on the proper inner workings of the Catholic Church.  God Bless you and your staff and the GOOD things you are all doing.  Please refrain from commenting on the inner workings of the Church though until you have a better education on the Church and can provide a better perspective.

  • Anonymous

    i respect your opinion as you are willing to engage in dialogue. I do stand by the “fruits” that are my posts; and I have on rare occasion found myself in agreement with some of GB’s less hyperbolic stories; especiallly the Philly trade unions stories with whom i have had direct experience. We can continue to disagree on the characterization of my critiques.

  • Anonymous

    a more logical theory is that it clears up his schedule to molest little boys

  • Anonymous

    no i am actually quite dispassionate when writing. Just calling them as I see ‘em.

  • Russ Dodge

    I am continually distressed by what Glenn has become.  I listened to him when he broadcast from Florida, Philaldephia, and New York, and he hs become more and more a victim of his own ego,  I still look at most things the way he does, but he truly often steps into things about which he has little or no knowledge

    His look at the present  situation in the Vatican is through the eyes of a secularist (stacking the deck and other secular references).  He is ex-Catholic turned Mormon.  As a practicing Catholic, I am offended by an ex-Cathoilic who seems to have never learned much about the faith ponticating about the Pontiff (pun intended)

    He looks at Ghana, which, from its inception as an  indpendent state, has been Socialist at best, Marxist at worse.

    So Glenn assumes that a cardinal from Ghana would also be a Marxist

     Labellingf an exceptional African Church leader as a Marxist because he is from Ghana is no different than igniorant people ascribing bigamy to Mormons.

    Glenn, Obviously you have not noticed the the Catholic clergy in black Africa are extremely conservative. Even the Anglican bishops in black Afriuca fight the ultra liberal agenda
    and practices of their English and American counterparts.

    The pope, as one might expect, has appointed cardinals whose Catholic orthodoxy is unquestioned,

    I hope that Glenn gets off his philosophical egotism and gets back to fighting the bad guys

  • Anonymous

     Your logic.

  • Anonymous

    I HOPE AND WISH THAT,THE COMING POPE WILL NOT APPLY THE NEW WORLD ORDER,WHEREBY IT WILL LEAD TO THE END OF DA WORLD,BECAUSE I CN SEE THAT I AM NOT READY FOR JESUS TO COME AND ITS NOT LIKE I DONT WANT JESUS TO COME,ITS JUST THAT I AM NOT THAT READY FOR HIM TO TAKE ME WITH HIM.

  • crazy betty

    Petrus Romanus

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GHXL5VYXJ5KHYBVOFH6RESI6KI Peter Gunz

    Think we are all missing the bigger picture.  The Vatican is much more power than everyone may think. This will be a historic move and will effect everyone in the world not just Catholics.  Marxism is alive and well and the Elite in this world are all pushing towards 1 thing…. A New World order.  The Vatican is one of the most powerful Societies for this movement.  This move is and has been calculated to ensure that whomever takes over for the Pope will be able to leverage and push even harder towards this.  ”Behold A Pale Horse” by William Cooper (EX Naval Intelligence Office) nailed it in this book of his.  He has supporting evidence and documentation on all of this.  I normally try not to read conspiracy theories but when this one is back up by his prolific Military Background, Documents from the Government that he saw and the fact that the Government ended up killing him.  It’s hard not to believe…..There are many Secret Societies that are VERY POWERFUL and you would be surprised who they are.  I fear for the USA and the rest of the citizens in the World.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GHXL5VYXJ5KHYBVOFH6RESI6KI Peter Gunz

    This truly is a historic moment.  But not because the Pope is retiring.  That is just what we see on the surface and what the Vatican and other Government officials want us to see.  The Vatican is much more than just the head of the Catholic religion.  They are a Society and a Very powerful one. There are many POWERFUL Societies out there, some you know like the Vatican and our own Government and most you may have never heard of (Freemasons, JASON Society, Bilderberg Group, Black Nobility). Marxism melding with Roman Catholicism is “Liberation Theology” This is what the Elite in the World want.  The Vatican is one of the most powerful Societies and would push towards this movement of control or New World Order.    There is alot of supporting documentation for this which is all in the book “Behold a Pale Horse” by William Cooper (Ex Navy Intelligence Officer) which has these documents from our government in his book.  Don’t be a sheep….Open your eyes!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GHXL5VYXJ5KHYBVOFH6RESI6KI Peter Gunz

    This truly is a historic moment.  But not because the Pope is retiring.  That is just what we see on the surface and what the Vatican and other Government officials want us to see.  The Vatican is much more than just the head of the Catholic religion.  They are a Society and a Very powerful one. There are many POWERFUL Societies out there, some you know like the Vatican and our own Government and most you may have never heard of (Freemasons, JASON Society, Bilderberg Group, Black Nobility). Marxism melding with Roman Catholicism is “Liberation Theology” This is what the Elite in the World want.  The Vatican is one of the most powerful Societies and would push towards this movement of control or New World Order.    There is alot of supporting documentation for this which is all in the book “Behold a Pale Horse” by William Cooper (Ex Navy Intelligence Officer) which has these documents from our government in his book.  Don’t be a sheep….Open your eyes

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3C66KSR3NNN2IAYYAL4GIDDWBI Joseph

    I’m sure we’re  not there yet, because the Pope has not selected his name. However, if he chooses anything that describes or is interpreted as Peter and or Rome, all this jabbering is like rearranging coat hangers as your house is burning down. Lets see what takes place in the next few weeks.