So lets check the math of Maxine Waters…

She claims 170 million jobs will be lost while only 130 million (roughly) exists. That would lead to a net loss of all jobs and 40 million more that do not exist…hmmm…DC we have a major problem…

Once again we see the insanity and hyper-hysteria of the Left displayed to the world; as a fact I will not be surprised if Obama uses executive orders to deliberately crash the economy across the board in the next few days.

Maxine Waters tells lies again, what else could be expected?

Her people claim it was a mistake. I say bull this is just what liberals do fear mongering to the most high. I am shocked she did not say that the earth was going to fall into the sun.

She’s one of the leaders of the Moron Party. She was the one who said that Obama has a data base on every American and the Democrats will use that to win the 2016 elections.

Spewing out words.  Not knowing what is being said.

Never mind what she blurts out now – what ever happened to her ethics violations trial?? 

 She might have been counting illegal aliens as well…..

How does this lady continue to be re elected? What world or nation am I living in?

Babbling Fools.

What an idiot…. Hey dummy, there is only 130 million jobs…. is everyone fired?

Didn’t Nancy Pelosi once quip that the stimulus package would create 500 million new jobs?  It’s simply remarkable that people are even voting for this side anymore.

Like the ones the ICE just let out onto the streets?  They need jobs too oh no!

Well they need those funds to keep providing Gov’t Funded Student Loans so that the young adults in Our Great Nation Will Be Indebted to the Fed Gov’t for Life… Especially to Force Them To Vote On Erronious Issues and Corrupt Politicians!

She is the typical black woman “leader.”  Speak first, and think about it afterwards!

There’ll never be another “Mad Maxine”!    Was she weating her fruit basket hat when interviewed?

That woman already has proven she is nastier than a yeast infection and now continues to prove that there is someone dumber than dirt!  But of course when it comes to fudging numbers numbskulls like her continously use the Democratic math method to TRY to prove their point.  But what about the TRILLION DOLLARS America doesn’t have that her Messiah-in-Chief keeps spending????  That woman should stay mum about everything because the more she opens her big fat mouth, the more ignorant she sounds.

Similar to “shoot first and aim later”.  Seems like Obama and Waters are two moronic peas in a pod!   

I just saw this strange youtube video recently that the Administration might come and take food away from people who have large stock piles and redistribute it across the country.  I wasn’t sure how seriously to take it but, that’s when you know Uncle Joe’s ghost just came to our land.  

The dumbest woman in politics

I’m not surprised. I wouldn’t put it past this administration to do just that, after all, they subsidize so many agricultural areas in this country.

I’m certain, judging by your delightfully frank thoughts here that you won’t care but…you are about to be labeled an ultra racist by the liberal trolls who are about to wake up to play their video games while harassing us!

Student Propaganda indoctrination centers, formerly called higher educational facilities. LOL

Well even if she was counting the illegal worker population, I don’t think that still even adds up to 170 million jobs currently held in America.  Honest mistake the libs say now, she misread her flash card,  as she said a few hours after her interview when told of her blunder, “Well ya’lls know I’aws get cunfused wit da numbers, four zeros, five zeros … so confusin!”

Maxine is clearly menatlly challenged.  What scares me are all the people who voted to put her in office.  Imagine how stupid and dangerous they are!!!!  

Ms Waters is counting all those dead, illegal ,and multiple voters . Not to mention the computer generated voters. That is how she got170 million workers from 140 million workers or are they counting all those 20 million slaves another black congressman clamed the white people threw overboard while bringing them to America during colonial times to feed the sharks . There is no reason for Ms Waters to be stupid if she can’t show it.

Do you remember when college students used to take 15 credits a semester and go bar tend somewhere for 15 or 20 hours a week so they could eat?  Now they take upwards of 20 credits a week, learning nothing but bullshit, and don’t have a job at all (thereby not being able to feed themselves on their own merit).  As Bob Dylan famously said, “the times they are a changin…”

It wasn’t a mistake and that’s clear by watching the clip of her speaking.  She emphasized the word MILLION, and then notice the lady directly behind Waters left shoulder (to the right on the video), the expression on her face which was like, “oh no, my colleague Maxine just put her foot in her mouth.”

Hi Bert28.  I take great pride when Libtards come crawling out from under their rocks to spew their split pea soup.

But my heroine is Ann Coulter and I love her quotes, especially these two:  “You know you’re doing something right when you’ve reduced hordes of liberals to blind, sputtering rage.” and “You can always tell what liberals are up to by what they accuse you of doing.” 

Maxine is a special kind of stupid.  Just like Hank Johnson suggesting Guam would “Tip over” if the military put too many troops on the island.  It’s sad to think these people are making rules for us.  

Thank you, I take that as a very encouraging post, what you’ve just said here

A friend and I were discussing how utterly moronic this pack of fools, cowards and frauds are – and not occasionally – they are fools, cowards and frauds 24/7.  Maxine, Obama, Hank Johnson (who thinks Guam will capsize if we but too many service people on it), and too many other examples to possibly list.  More depressing is that the majority of Americans (correction: people inhabiting America and sucking on the old welfare tit) that are half-witted enough to not know better.  Perhaps the threat of massive electromagnetic destruction of brain cells while using an Obamaphone is real.  Too bad the GOP is so richly represented in the fools, cowards and frauds column, leaving us nobody to clean up this mess but ourselves.  Now that we know that can’t be accomplished at the ballot box, due to mind boggling levels of voter fraud, it’s time to launch Plan B.

Typical Ni_ _er!

snowleopard, all I know is that if I handled my own finances and did math like Gov’t Officials, I would be spending a long time in jail.

Note: Hard Core Criminals would be released to make room for me because I own a firearm… at least I don’t own a Paper Gun because that would make me something like a murderer!

170 million jobs lost out of 130. Who was her Black Caucus colleague who was afraid a military base on one end of Guam would cause the island to tip over?
These are the people in charge.

Student Propaganda Indoctrination starts at the K level.

I honestly couldn’t even tell you when College Students Stopped Earning Their Education (both financially & mentally)!

Did you know that you cannot even see your ballot to make sure it was never tampered with?

He will crash it to blame it on Republicans and blame the new recession on Republicans. Plus more neediness expands the welfare free stuff economy (the free stuff we pay for) and creates more Democrats. It’s a Win-Win for Democrats and Obama. It  wouldn’t even be possible with an honest media (Bob Woodward is the last of his kind) bt when the head of CBS News calls on Obama to destroy the Repblican Party you know you have a Pravda State-run media.

Honestly, I don’t know which of our CA Congresspeople is more embarrassing … Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi.  They are both pretty dim bulbs.

are we really paying this IDIOT, and how can we cut her pay?

One of the first things we cut from the payroll is bho himself

You got that right!  Why do you think Mayor Bloomberg’s pac out of NYC is putting big money into local school board races in CA?  The earlier the kids are indoctrinated, the more solidly they will be ingrained with the socialist principles!

Thanks a lot America, I guess we in Canada are going to lose a wack of jobs here too. dang. That Maxine is right on the mark ain’t she?

They are so wrapped up in their stories it is going to continue to be ridiculous to listen to them, at this point we have heard everything have to say at least 10 times over. The cut is 2.3% of an increase in spending, not even the budget from last year!!

Is it not clear Maxine Waters needs a class in 101  math? Some might suggest she is a misinformed politician. Others might suggest she is a partisan, cheer-leader for Obama. May I suggest Waters is both misinformed and partisan? My advice is to do your homework before speaking.

Is it the low information voter that is responsible for these CA dingbats, or just stupid CA leftists?

You may have overlooked our misinformed politicians are supported by misinformed voters!

SADLY, SOME TRUTH!

Surely there is someone, ANYONE, within the Inland Empire smarter than Ms. Waters.  C’mon people, stand up and be counted … or acquiesce to Plato’s admonition … “One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.”

Maxdimwit is counting on her toes again.

One moved and she raised it to the 10 power.

She then multiplied this figure by Nancy Pelosi’s age, divided by her own IQ, and added the number of lies Obama has told.

This is how she got to somewhere over 170 million jobs that will be lost.

Obama is elated also with her math skills – he can put this 170 on welfare and get votes to change history so he gets a third term.

Only problem, even the dumbest of the dumbed down will fall for this math gymnastics.

The best way to combat that plan, take the labels OFF the cans and the jars or bottle your own food. They only want the food they can identify.

She is always coming out with sheer stupidity, along with Pelosi.  How could these women ever get elected to anything, much less to Washington posts?  Shows just how stupid the people are who voted for them.

Wonder why our news media even lets these type people talk. Shut up Maxine until you learn somethings, like you are supporting and belong to the party that endorses slavery.

The people aren’t buying his lies this time.  Even some Democraps are speaking out against this sorry excuse of a President.

The cuts are easy, start with the 6 billion Dollars he’s giving to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, then the 3 billion dollars to Pakistan and the 3 billion to Al Qaeda in Syria.  That’s 12 billion our Military could use.

Here’s a couple billion more:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2011/03/government_overlap_costs_taxpa.html

The U.S. government has more than 100 programs dealing with surface transportation issues, 82 monitoring teacher quality, 80 for economic development, 47 for job training, 20 offices or programs devoted to homelessness and 17 different grant programs for disaster preparedness. Another 15 agencies or offices handle food safety, and five are working to ensure the federal government uses less gasoline.

“This report will make us look like jackasses,” Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who read the report, told reporters Monday. He sponsored the amendment requiring the report’s publication.

Hell, I’m not even the President and I found Billions of dollars that can be cut!

You mean the”Gimmee, Gimmee, Gimmee voters. Obamaclause is a liberals favorite.

Ms Waters was probably including many jobs in China which corporations have created by free trade.

I’ve been working 170hours a week trying to make ends meet now I’m gonna lose my job? 

The real issue here with Maxine is:
Not only how did she get elected once, but how does she keep getting re-elected.
She and Biden are a couple of real daffs in the lib party.
If I was a lib and voted for this woman, I’d hope I had enuff sense to only do it once….

She lies just like all the other left-wing liberals lie. Instead of them using women and children as props, and giving them something for nothing. How about giving them a job. Obama said he wouldn’t sleep until everyone who wanted a job had one. I guess that means that all of these poor souls she’s talking about don’t want a job, or they would have one by now.
They all lie, and blame it on everyone else, but themselves. There aren’t enough rich people in the world, let alone this country, to pay for their irresponsible spending.

Why?

You mean GE and GM?

these idiots should shut up and quit showing how brainless they really are. of course it does not seem to matter because there are enough other idiots who vote for them to keep them in office

Pelosi was third in line for a while. Let that fact sink in for a few minutes.

No I haven’t overlooked it, you should see how badly I get harassed on these threads.

The jobs that they are referring to are Union jobs. Obammy wants everyone to have unionjobs in his country and doesn’t want Non-union jobs in this country. All of the Dems want them to. Woodward has opened the eyes of the American people, where the rest of us has been trying to tell the people.Obammy wanted the sequester. He doesn’t want the Republicans to be around because they are stopping him from really ruining this country and now he can’t spend, spend.  God Bless America

It hurts knowing things like that.

God bless the America we all used to know.

How in the world does anyone this dumb get the position that she holds?  She is right up there with Nancy Pelosi.  170 million jobs will be lost!!  Come on give me a break.

How did she  ever get this job?She isn’t up to this kind of thing&should be kicked out completely.Why won’t anyone do so??????????????????Liz 

170 million jobs could be accounted for if 1.7 million americans who currently work 100 jobs lose all their jobs. But then they could collect unemployment insurance, which, according to this stupid old hag, provides the best possible return on investment.

I think Waters and Pelosi need to be drug tested, this is beyond regular stupid. 
I think that if we would pass a law requiring a drug test before getting a voter registration 
card the Democratic Party would disappear.

Why do dems look so angry and sad. Is it because they know their leader is a idiot? doesn’t really know what he is doing? in real life a muslim, should have stayed with the parade gig, Or just know deep down inside they are soooooo wrong?

There is some of it left. Since this is God’s land he has the authority to bless it or not. There is so much corruption here that he will come hopefully when the wicked have been taught a lot of lessons. But, I still say —  God Bless this America

You could label everything “bullshit” and they’d take it and eat it the first chance they got, which would be in no way dissimilar to any liberal action.

Cool, that means those dumb asses in Washington will go home… No jobs = no tax revenue = no government payroll, and if I know my Congress they are not going to continue to work out of the goodness of their hearts….
  Seriously, does anyone know how much more stupid this is going to (can possibly) get before the whole damn thing blows up…

More of that fuzzy math, like Obamas 53 State campaign tour… Only two truths have left Washington since 2008. (1) Obamas promise to. “fundamentally transform America” (please read in your finest Southern Baptist Minister dialect) and “energy prices will necessarily have to sky rocket”. Way to go big guy, you are two for two on the truth meter….. 

Hey – it WILL be 170 million – if you count all the jobs lost on Mars. 

she probably was thinking ……”I will loose $170 million”……

Wow 500 million new jobs, that’s more jobs than we have people living in America.  I guess the babies and small children could find a job.  Then Obama would be able to tax them, too.  The left is remarkably stupid, but you have to admit they are one large virus.  The Republicans just have to get it together and pull out another victory in 2014, or this will be going on until the Presidential election again, unless Obama by executive order stays in another four years.  God help us!!! if that happens.

Amen to that, but we still have a chance in 2014.  Let’s get out and vote!! Don’t let them ruin America, keep your chins up and let’s do the right thing…..Save AMERICA!!!

Hey Maxine…hopefully your job will be the first to go.  What a dope!

Considering the total wackos like her, Pelosi, and Boxer are coming out of California, maybe giving the state back to Mexico wouldn’t be so bad. Or maybe that big earthquake that’s supposed to cause California to drop off in the ocean wouldn’t be as terrible as some might think. The uneducated dribble that comes from these people is amazing. All emotion and nothing close to reality.

HUD is not an organization that needs to be done by the Federal Government. Maxine Waters is  one of the most Racist people in this country.  Unfortunately, the Racist Libs in her district keep on reelecting her.  No matter how hard we try, it’s extremely difficult to fix STUPID. Maxine Waters is proof of that.

This is just another example of Cultural Marxism, the basis for what is called affirmative action, EEO, diversity, multiculturalism, etc. We hire or elect based upon the minority status of the individual. Marxists developed this program in 1923 however, it did not take off until the hippie days of the 1960.
Look up Cultural Marxism first and understand it. Go to Discoverthenetworks.org and go to YouTube and look it up.

The newsletter calls Nancy Pelosi “Skeletor”. She doesn’t look like Skeletor if that is a reference to the He-Man cartoon but she DOES laugh like Bevis and Butthead though.

Poor Maxine – she dreamed that 170M Americans would be out of work if Sequester went through; and then there is Poor Nancy . . . this dumb broad said we would lose 500M jobs a WEEK!!!  It is a pretty sad day for America when two lonnnnnnnnnnnng-time elected D.C. officials don’t even know that there are only 139M jobs TOTAL in America!!!  I hate to say this, but it is true . . . if these two bimbos represent the women serving in D.C. along with all those lame-brain men, no wonder the country is in deep doo-doo!

And as for Poor Nancy . . . wasn’t it she who said “unemployment is good” because for every $1 spent for unemployment insurance, there is $1.76 returned to the economy so what in the H*LL is she worried about?  We are about to have a HUGE stimulus package totally concentrated on unemployment benefits!

I’ll tell you what they are BOTH worried about . . . they KNOW we are about to bottom out, unemployment will rise, inflation will rise, interest rates will rise . . . and slowly but surely, the American people who bought their “bill of goods” will figure out just how badly they have been screwed!  AND the Democratic Party has been in charge of the Economy for nearly 4-1/2 years!  it will wreck their long-range goals if they have to take responsibility for the tsunami that is about to hit us broadside!  No wonder they are flapping their arms like guppies, sucking too much air, and are trying to get back in the water!!

 I am asking myself what kind of crisis they will invent to divert attention away from “what comes next!”  Remember, what goes around, comes around.  and the progressives are about to get their due!  It is going to hurt, hurt ALL of us, but I will be glad when this crap ends and we can get busy putting the Republic back on solid ground!

What is worse with Maxine’s comments is the people behind her are shaking their heads in a positive way. NOT a ONE OF THEM caught the massive error in her comments. WE ARE DUMBED DOWN FOLKS BEYOND BELIEF!  We are getting what the majority votes for. IDIOTS with nothing but POWER on their minds and agendas!

That’s the beauty of being a liberal in the US right now. There is literally nothing that they can say that is so outrageous, no lie they can tell that is so outlandish, and no exaggeration they can make that is so ridiculous that the press will challenge them. It leads to an intellectual laziness that is institutionalized. It makes it extremely frustrating when you know that your opponent neither knows the facts nor cares about them. For liberals, there is literally NOTHING that cannot be justified in the great “cause”.

Lol and we have 57 states total apparently too, I remember that one. Did he sign an executive order adding Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, Northern Marianas Islands, Virgin Islands, and Washington D.C as states? He should probably let them know they have to pay taxes now, would help out with the debt, just saying…

A good and virtuous manager/leader is dedicated and paid to improve service and results, control costs, train and grow people, never make threats, never take a bribe for any reason and have a good sense of humor. 
 
Obama demonstrates he has none of these requirements and qualifications. He must be fired by we-the- people, because we are his Board of Directors.

Yea, Maxine flubbed that one.  But the greater point is that the sequester will ultimately be damaging to the economy and really hurt some people bad, weaken our military and reduce medicare payments.  This situation is no joke.  If it continues for any considerable length of time, conservative estimates are that it will drag the modest growth rate from 2.5 to 1.5%.  Congress is a joke.

 Oh has Washington DC been granted statehood? Last I checked it was still a city in the state of Maryland. If you’re not a government worker you still have a Maryland driver’s license.

Just another moron leading morons that voted for the idiot.

The post you’ve replied to was meant to be a joke.

If our dictator repealed Obamatax, I’m certain it would more than cover the sequester equation.  Half of the money I’ve paid into Medicare just got swiped for something I don’t like.  I have never claimed unemployment, I have paid income taxes almost every week of my life since I was 16 (about to turn 30 next month).  I take care of myself and pay my health insurance premiums.  I think it’s time for this country to split in two, I’d like to live in the half where I’m not getting blamed for something I didn’t create.  This country no longer deserves to exploit my labor, actually it never did.

I want God to grant me a bus ticket to Texas.

This is to you and SEBtopdog as well, I’ve heard that some people are now trying to say that Benjamin Franklin’s famous “a republic, if you can keep it” quote was actually “a democratic republic, if you can keep it.”  Not such an insignificant play on words huh?  Revisionist history is quite insidious and it’s headed straight for scholastic America.

I know how you feel. I’ve paid a lot of taxes over my life and there are a lot of moochers of government programs. Medicare isn’t going away. It’s critical to the sick and elderly. Without it, this country would go back to the indignity of the poor houses of our country’s past. Increasing healthcare costs and unaffordable insurance reached a crisis point and administrations for decades have known it would eventually cripple our economy. I hear a lot of criticisms of the Affordable Care Act, but not many alternatives. Certainly some administration had to face the problem. So it was Obama. It should have been Bush. Clinton tried, but the special interest insurance companies made sure no reforms were made. Massachusetts’ model of Obamacare has been a success.

Criticisms of ACA? Unconstitutional, insolvent, a promise made to spend someone else’s money. Health insurance has spiked proportionately larger SINCE Obamatax has been put into place. With the enactment of Obamatax, it has been assured that health care costs will never ever go down. Obamatax was the worst possible “alternative” to what happened before. Remember, it’s the responsibility of both parties to find a solution to the problem, not for one party to force their agenda and criticize the other for not agreeing to something they hate on moral grounds. Clinton was the last good Democrat. He worked with Gingrich. Those two were a match made in heaven. But now you have banal Boehner being bullied by the dictator. Medicare isn’t going away? Well I predict it will slowly fade starting in January. You know why? NO MONEY!

ACA was adjudicated constitutional, and the deciding vote was from a conservative judge. Healthcare is expensive and healthy people have to help pay for unhealthy people. Otherwise, the pool gets sicker and the sicker it gets, the more unaffordable the pool is, and so on. There is no other solution. Call it unfair, but everyone will become unhealthy some time, it’s just a matter of when.

BTW, Gingrich was out to get Clinton in a big way. He became cooperative only after voters and his party punished him.

It doesn’t matter what Justice Roberts decided, the ACTUAL CONSTITUTION has a thing called the commerce clause and it was sidestepped, and last I checked the commerce clause has not been repealed.

Clinton boom began before Newt became speaker. The American economy generated 6 million jobs in Clinton’s first two years, interest rates dropped, the deficit shrank and productivity rose — all because of the Clinton policies that Gingrich opposed.

We also have a thing called the judicial branch that decides what’s constitutional when questions arise.

I like to know where the 34 billion dollars that the Native Americans were going to get. The Natives don’t get that money…just look at the homes on the reservations. I like how she’s playing on emotions. I guess it’s time for everyone to learn to be self sufficient. I’m game are you? 

Not unless Obama wants it to. It’s a big joke to Obama, it’s his idea.

Hey bert28, landree was caught in his lies and spewing bigotry and racism.  He has no credibility here, he’s a TROLL.

Obama’s AHCA is already costing the middle class thousands of dollars a year more.  Democraps are lining up to get their exemptions and Unions too.

It’s going to cost the country trillions of dollars and increase the budget by 10 trillion dollars over the next 20 years.

No one punished New Gingrich.  You’re a bigot, racist and a liar.

You weren’t praising them when they made their decision in Citizens v. United decision. You’re a hypocrite as well as a bigot and a racist.

The big question is. When are they in Washington DC going to start telling us the truth. It’s just one lie after another. They forget that they are talking to grown ups with an education.

The Clinton Boom was because of the Republicans in the House and Senate. Clinton was also responsible for the first Tade Center Bombing and the 9/11 Trade center bombing.

Clinton was also impeached for lying to a Congress, he failed to get Bin Laden twice during his administration and allowed the 9/11 Trade Center deaths.

I’m not sure which representative is more nuts…..Maxine Waters with her jobs loss comment or Barbara Lee (CA) wanting to have a cabinet level Department of Peace!!!  If she is so concerned about violence she should consider repeal of Roe v. Wade.  Just think of the violence 50 million fetuses have suffered over the last 40 years.  If she wants more peace, she could start with inner city neighborhoods (Chicago comes to mind) & advocate for two-parent homes that just might decrease the violence of so many young men.

Dr. Benjamin Carson had a better plan for giving people healthcare.
The Mass plan’s been a disaster for taxpayers, 83 percent have  publicly-funded programs, such as Commonwealth Care and MassHealth. Federal Medicaid funds underwrite about half the state’s cost. 

What’s going to happen when the Federal Government has to underwrite 83% of the Nations healthcare?

The only reason that such a ridiculously modest amount of cuts could hurt us is because they are targeted at things that many jobs are tied to. For example, the military cuts doesn’t actually affect the military as much as many would think, but the defense contractors that pay REALLY well will be forced to lay off employees. Unfortunately, the cuts should have been targeted on Medicare, Medicaid and other forms of welfare, as these are monstrosities that net absolutely no income for the US. Until this country starts waking up and realizing it is not good to be the answer to everyone’s wants, needs, wishes, etc, we are never going to catch up. Most of what is collected in taxes is in a non-stop suction. We can’t seem to figure out that no how much is taken and redistributed to those who feel that they have are entitled, because of whatever circumstance in their lives, to what rightfully does not belong to them, they will want more. Obama won the election because now, a majority of Americans think that there’s some “candy” somewhere for them. This attitude is destroying the economy. But, as I said at the beginning, you are overreacting to this. You need to stop listening to Barack Obama’s self serving, full-on lies and start thinking about what he is saying. We are NOT going to die, we are NOT going to see the economy set back because of this. The reason that the economy is not catching up is because Americans are not certain how much money they are going to see because of all the damn taxes! All those fools that thought the Democrats were oh, so reasonable in asking that only those who make more than $400,000/yr pay more in taxes would end up picking up the tag for everything were fools. They’re even bigger fools because all Obama has to do is blame the Republicans for the tax hikes on nearly everyone, and they all buy it hook, line and sinker. All they had to do was read more than liberal newspapers and watch liberal TV. Although, I’m not certain that they even do that. The press is completely compliant with Obama’s lies and fall all over themselves trying to pass blame to the same guys who, at least at first, were saying, “NO” to tax raises and tried to include the perpetuation of the FICA tax rates in their proposals, only to see it nixed by the President. It didn’t even matter that the president was publicly saying he WANTED us to go off the fiscal cliff. He knew that no matter how ridiculous his lies, they will be bought by the majority of the people. This is why we can’t get control of the spending frenzy we are on.

Excellent reply Bert. I’m sick and tired of hearing these foolish rationalizations for Obamacare. As a doctor, I can tell you that the most realistic outlook is that yes, with Obamacare, everyone could have health insurance…unfortunately, it does you absolutely no good if there are no doctors who accept it because it pays less than what it costs to keep an office open and costs the country more than ever before. Most physicians I know are counseling their children to pick anything BUT medicine as even now, we are being asked to pay the costs for the “savings” of the program. Everything in healthcare is going up drastically, but the way that Obamacare works is, they actually REDUCE what is paid to physicians. Why would I take this? I paid off my student loans and practice buy-in last year. That was after 22 years of practice.

 Speaking of hypocrites, you were Romney’s biggest supporter and only now do you complain about Romney Care?

Anyways, thank you for finally acknowledging that Romney Care is a disaster which involved the entire country paying for it and not just the State of Massachusetts.

Landree, if you will recall, that conservative judge even ignored Obama’s arguments that Obamacare is not a tax to disagree and stated that Obamacare was constitutional BECAUSE it is a tax. John Roberts is no conservative. Your arguments that everyone is going to get sick is irrelevant. How is a failure to save or plan in favor of expecting that someone else will support you an argument that that person then has claim to what they did not earn? Your need does not equate to an entitlement. Your want does not equate to need. The majority of the people in the US do not save and do not plan for the future and its getting worse. Government is the absolute worst vehicle for the delivery of healthcare in existence. Mountains of waste and the paper to document it is about how good it is. When I was in residency, we used to have to work at the VA hospital that was concurrent to the University of Iowa campus. We used to joke that there should be a large sign on the doctors’ entrance saying, “Check your brain at the door.” A few hundred yards away, there was a sane, logical approach to medicine, but there, the government rules far outspent any care that was delivered and the people there suffered for it as well as those attempting to serve veterans. Government is NOT the answer to healthcare. Now, if you haven’t noticed, the GAO is saying that it will cost approximately one trillion dollars more than was originally on paper and it has grown from a 2,000 page plan to more than 13,000 pages in just a few months. There have been 16,000 new IRS agents hired to do nothing more than audit and cite people for failure to purchase a private product through pure tyranny. Yet, the GAO also estimates that there will be MORE people without healthcare because of the massive costs incurred from the new rules imposed. We also know that the government will be deciding who lives and who dies based on cost-benefit analysis, all the things that Obama and his “czars” all denied. Now, it’s simply a matter of course and ho hum to the press that these councils will exist. Unfortunately, we are also seeing the inability of people to choose healthcare that is not included in the government’s assessment of what is necessary and most of the rules prevent those same people from seeking healthcare through private payment, as if there is something immoral or wrong about not depending on the government for every breath from birth to death. Your statements, again, are completely irrelevant. Solving a problem through government programs that are indisputably horrendous, wrongheaded in their approach and MORE costly than what existed before does not solve the problem. Perhaps if you had ever been a physician and worked for the government you would understand what I know to be fact. The only truly driven and successful governmental medicine is that which exists in the military. I served in the Air Force and I have never met finer or better trained medical personnel from the lowest to the highest. And they were all meshed with high ideals and a sense of purpose. But having worked outside the military for the government as well, I can tell you that this is NOT the case. The problem has grown, Landree, not shrunk. And with each new page added, the morass, like our tax system, and enforced by the same jackasses who couldn’t find their own rear ends with a map and both hands, grows ever more expensive. We simply cannot, under any circumstances, sustain the quality of care that we have enjoyed previously, nor the amount of care, nor the choice of care. It DOES NOT WORK when it is the government that administers the program. Research is being squelched in favor of results that, unfortunately, are not possible without the research. When was the last time that you heard of a major medical breakthrough coming out of Canada or England? Contrary to the lies released by the UN and eaten up by the liberal press, the US is the finest healthcare system in the world. But not for long. We have been the best because of the incentives, the research and the personnel. It is simply impossible to attract the best under this kind of a system, researchers will choose other fields because of the problems with this system. There will be a few who will fight the tide, but they will be few and far between and if they stand out in any way, they will soon be on the government’s radar and their work squelched ASAP. I’ve been there. I made the mistake of outworking eight other doctors combined. That would have been commendable in any other profession. Not in the government. Because I actually managed to make a small profit for the clinic, we lost a $150,000 grant and I was out. I had already been marked for demise because the clinic was paid under a system called FQHC in which the government pays by VISIT, not by WORK. See the picture? I was completing eight times more work than the normal doctor, who was spreading out the number of appointments needed for any given procedure, thus bilking the US taxpayers out of far more money than with a person with a committed work ethic. And, instead of being commended for having the highest number of patient commendations, I was summarily fired from the clinic. No loss, I was ready to leave out of sheer disgust. This is the legacy we have chosen, Landree. Platitudes are all good and well until the test of the lack of substance behind them. This massive glut of healthcare money will result in FEWER patients being seen and doctors who are unable to make the simplest decisions without permission. I’ve been in that situation as well, in which some pencil pusher thinks they know medicine better than I do and makes decisions they should have no say in EVER as the single decision that counts. Mine is never factored into that picture. Try studying this from a different viewpoint. I can tell you this, you have no idea what you are praising. It will be the end of the nation through costs, diminution of the value of human life in favor of what someone else wants and abject bankruptcy. Kill the economy and you kill the country. Thanks for being Obama’s boy on this. Too bad you’re unwilling to step outside the liberal tripe box and look at results while forgetting the platitudes. In MY world, it is results that count. In your government utopia, the platitudes will win the day no matter the results. Break the cycle and try THINKING.

Q. Who controls the US House of Representatives?

A. Republicans

Q. What are the enumerated powers given to the House by the Constitution?

A. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and
general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and
Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;”

Now we see that the Republicans are just as much to blame as Obama and the Democrats in the Senate, if not more so. Until people face the reality that both major Parties are corrupt, nothing will ever change.

I supported Romney because he was what we had. I lived in Mass and there’s no “finally” in anything I’ve said, I know what I’m talking about. You make my point. “Romney Care is a disaster which involved the entire country paying for it and not just the State of Massachusetts.”

Now that I know who you are,please, don’t bother me with your blather, get it. I have a racist, bigoted puke to deal with right now, Landree.

Republicans will feel the blow back of the sequester decision more than Obama. Loosing senate seats in the last election that were almost assured Republican plus recent polls on pubic perception are clear proof. The public views Republican’s rigid stance on taxes a uncompromising. Republicans are at odds with each other within their own party.

In 1997 poor public opinion of Gingrich lead to House Republicans attempted to replace him as Speaker. In 1998, Republicans blamed Gingrich for loosing five seats in the House, the worst loss in 64 years. This is fact. Then he started working with Clinton.

If you do not stop your belligerent nonsense about racism, I will not respond to you. That sort of incitement only makes you look incapable of expressing yourself constructively.

Correct. That decision allows corruption of the electoral process. I don’t believe corporations should be treated people regarding influence over elections. Corporations motive is purely profit, which can be at odds with consumer protection and many other interests of the public.

All your points factually incorrect. Clinton enacted the 1993 Deficit Reduction Plan without a Single Republican Vote. The plan included targeted tax cuts and more than $500 billion in deficit reduction.
You accusation that Clinton was responsible for 9/11 is disgusting and barely worth a response. Clinton tried to get Bin Laden and failed. The intelligence was handed of to Bush. Do you blame him for the bombing?
Clinton was not impeached. He finished his term.

I’ve never heard of Carson’s plan. I do know that health care costs remain high in MA and must be addressed. But, the plan is widely supported by stakeholders according to this Blue Cross study: http://bluecrossmafoundation.org/sites/default/files/Monitoring_MA_Reform_May_2012_v2.pdf

All you leftist know that a President isn’t responsible for the first 4 years of his presidency ie. Obama. If Clinton had taken Bin Laden out when he had two chances,(he failed to act!) 9/11 might not of happened, dickweed.

If you really want to know what went on in 1993 read this:http://www.thepresidency.org/storage/documents/Deficit_Reduction_in_1993.pdf.

The real reason that Republicans fought against the bill:

“Specifics:

It created 36 percent and 39.6 income tax rates for individuals in the top 1.2% of the wage earners.[2]
It created a 35 percent income tax rate for corporations.
The cap on Medicare taxes was repealed.
Transportation fuels taxes were raised by 4.3 cents per gallon.
The taxable portion of Social Security benefits was raised.
The phase-out of the personal exemption and limit on itemized deductions were permanently extended.
Part IV Section 14131: Expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit and added inflation adjustments”.

Once again you’re stupider than dirt you racist, bigoted hypocrite.

Clinton was responsible fot 9/11 because of his intelligence agencies were fighting with each other over Clinton policies, including Nancy Pelosi who was the ranking Democrap member in the House Permanent select Committee on Intelligence.

Duties include working to ensure policy makers and the Military Commanders are provided with the timely and accurate intelligence necessary to guide diplomatic initiatives, succeed in combat and to protect U.S. military forces.

Provide intelligence on Weapons of Mass Destruction and global Terrorism.

Nancy Pelosi was the ranking Democrat on that Committee.

Racist, bigot!

So you agree with decisions that are in your favor but the SCOTUS is not correct when they’re not in your favor.

You’re a hypocrite as well as a proven liar, bigot and racist!

Gingrich resigned from the Speaker position, it was his decision and yes you’re a proven racist and bigot. You think that Blacks have low IQ’s and that’s racism little boy.

I’ve proven the point with your own words, back-peddle as you might, you’re a proven racist and a bigot.

If you can’t take the heat about what you posted, then go somewhere else to spread you bigotry and racism. I’m going to dog you to the ends of the earth because you think a whole class of people are inferior to people like you. How’s that?

The point about sequestration being bad is not that cuts aren’t necessary, it’s that cuts applied ignorantly will damage the recovery. Independent CBO estimates a 0.6% drag on our 2.5% GDP growth and approximately 700,000 job losses, which is significant at a time when the recovery is fragile. Economists I’ve read on the subject believe cuts must be applied gradually to continue growth, which is theorized to provide much more toward debt reduction than austerity as it did during the Clinton years.

Obama failed to put the blame on the Republicans this time, racist. Don’t you worry about us and our(supposedly) low IQ’s bigot, we’re a lot smarter than you bigoted racists think!

You were given several chances to have a respectful debate, but this response proves to me you’re unwilling to do so. I will not waste any more time on you.

Well, since you accuse me of not thinking, I’ll tell you I understand your points and agree with several. I do understand that the court agreed ACA was constitutional if its considered a tax. I don’t consider healthcare reform simply platitudes. I consider it an attempt to address an extremely complicated problem that’s threatening our economy. The basic premise that healthy people have to buy in makes sense to me, but it follows that problems would result.

I think that people must take responsibility for healthcare costs to some degree and I that HSAs are an excellent way to do that. I think that HSA funds should be paid directly to doctors for the small stuff to avoid the administrative burden with a safety net for the poor. I think insurance should be used as insurance for catastrophic situations as opposed to using it as prepaid medical like it is now. My wife is a speech pathologist and sees on a daily basis people who have self-inflicted illnesses. That is a huge problem that could get worse, like in Canada, if people aren’t held responsible to some degree. Out of pocket payments would make people be more conscious of their choices.

On the other hand, my wife sees constantly how insurance companies avoid payment of claims. Your concern about czars should be directed to insurance companies as well, who’s panels decide to delay or deny life saving therapies. My father’s insurance company, for example, denied his cancer surgery because they considered it experimental. Medicare considered the same treatment as valid. Insurance company’s decisions are made based on profit, not necessarily for the wellbeing of the patient. Medicare is more reliable and fair in my wife’s experience and my sibling, who’s a clinical dietitian. She also sees how people that are between insurance have gone bankrupt.

Your concern about paying doctors per visit or test or procedure is a concern of the CBO as well, which advised that payment should to some degree be based on outcomes. I don’t know how you do that and make it fair for Doctors, but as a business person myself, I’m all for it.

Recent studies of the MA plan have shown wide support by stakeholders, but that costs have not gone down, which must be corrected. It hasn’t shown medical bankruptcies to go down, but the research is clouded by the effect of the recession.

You lied, posted racist and bigoted comments and tried to back it up with studies where half of them din’t make your point and the others were studies from bigoted researches. You got called on it and insisted to lie. You’re a racist bigot, plain and simple.

You don’t know crap about the Mass. plan. I lived there.

Blue Cross is making a fortune because people have to by some kind of insurance because of the plan. Your link doesn’t make your argument!

The rest of the people are being subsidized by the Federal Government!

You’re a moron and a bigoted racist.

No, you make my point. I was posting about Romney Care and his other socialist policies all last year while you and your very tiny goon squad constantly attacked me(long before Romney even got the nomination).

If you don’t want me to bother you, you shouldn’t have bothered me and followed me in Dashboard last week. Your cyber stalking tactics of intimidation has never worked, so to keep doing it is insane.

Also, considering one of your socks is called Men_In_Black (A liberals worse nightmare, an educated black man), I wouldn’t go around calling other people a racist bigoted puke of a troll. Usually the people that scream things like that constantly are the guiltiest offenders trying to hide what they are.

You have made it clear that you cannot debate rationally or logically so must use multiple socks for the illusion that your irrational positions are supported. For someone to operate as many socks as you do at once, makes me believe you are either a very obsessed partisan hack or an obsessed RINO political hack. Either way, not good.

If you really want me to not bother you, take me off follow and tell your fellow morons to leave me alone, then I will reciprocate.

You’re a psycho putz. I posted to you before I found out who you were. You’re nothing but a paranoid moron who complains about other people and their sock puppets all the while you’ve had dozens of socks. You’re a sick moron as is evident in your post to me. I’ll keep you on follow if it bothers you so much.

Go away.

More projecting from the RINO Troll, I see.

I’m not the schizophrenic troll that talks to himself with all his different socks.

Go dress up in drag and pretend to be your Hispanic sister Maria Sanchez again, oh sane one. ROTFLMAO!

You were told what the conditions were for me to go away. Until then, quit your whining and live with it.

How much do you get paid per post anyways?

Go away sicko. How many socks have you had? A dozen at least!

Your delusions are growing by leaps and bounds.
You’re the whiner, not me, all you do is whine. Bwhaaaaaaa Bwhaaaaaaa Are you scared of the psycho Monkey in the closet? LMAO
Go away little man, you scare people. You don’t live near any schools, do you?

Dear Maxine,
If it’s really that bad it was very smart for the Pres. to take that golfing trip before those 170,000,000 people lost their jobs because I’m guessing that the people that keep the golf course up would quite probably be included in those job losses and you know how hard it is to putt on thick grass but maybe we could just tweek the numbers so he could still have an impressive score
Just a Thought

22 years? Wow, that sucks that it took you that long to pay it off.  If you don’t mind my asking, is that typical of many of your colleagues as well? Along with teachers, cops, and fire fighters, I respect physicians very intensely.  I know that that expensive schooling you went through was highly exhausting, I know there is no way I could get through it personally.  You deserve a raise my friend  You have done the world a lot of good. I’m certain however, that more important than your pay you are passionate about healing people too.  Have a pleasant night.

22 years? Wow, that sucks that it took you that long to pay it off.  If you don’t mind my asking, is that typical of many of your colleagues as well? Along with teachers, cops, and fire fighters, I respect physicians very intensely.  I know that that expensive schooling you went through was highly exhausting, I know there is no way I could get through it personally.  You deserve a raise my friend  You have done the world a lot of good. I’m certain however, that more important than your pay you are passionate about healing people too.  Have a pleasant night.

The Republicans gave Obama the opportunity to make all of the decisions on the budget cuts.  Then Obama turned around and scoffed at the bill they proposed on this by saying, “it is dumb to make these cuts ‘arbitrary’ we need across the board cuts!”  The “arbitrary” cuts would require more thinking and more research.  Across the board cuts would require less thinking and research and they give Republicans less opportunity for filibustering, which is of course what Obama had planned on.  If you can’t filibuster then you can’t iron out all of the details concerning the fact that you can’t just say “It’s the Republican controlled House’s fault.”  They gave Obama the power to make the decisions, but Obama won’t make the arbitrary cuts, you know why?  It was a good idea and he didn’t think of it. The Republicans did and he would have had to acknowledge that they deserved credit for making a wise decision that he didn’t have the brains to make.  Obama should have been a lawyer because the only redeeming skill he has is that of being a smooth talker.

Obama’s not only a lawyer, but was the president of the Harvard Law Review. It is disappointing that neither side will compromise, but since Republicans will not budge on tax loopholes, Obama can afford to spend some of his political equity on playing hardball. The American public have shown how they feel about Republicans by having voted them out of Senate seats. Obama knows it.

I have to say you know a lot more about life than me.  I can tell just by reading your posts.  I was always brought up to be proud of my humility and ashamed of anything I do or say out of arrogance.  In the good book it said, “He who humbles himself will be exalted and he who exalts himself will be humbled.”  It’s not always easy to admit that you aren’t the smartest person in the world.  The “liberal” mentality isn’t based on humility.  It’s based on selfishness and a struggle for power whereby the ends justify the means.  I read every word of Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.  I knew I would disagree with every word of it before I picked it up but I read it because I like obtaining knowledge.  I like knowing how the other side thinks.  I recoil when I hear bullshit and I’m addicted to knowledge, wisdom, and most importantly, the truth.  It’s more important to be wise than is it to appear to be wise, and this my friend is what NO liberal understands.  Don’t be discouraged my friend, the only people who will listen to you are people who WANT to learn.  That’s the cross that intelligent people have to bear.

I see you’ve been out trying to delete your posts from the other day bigot. That won’t work, everything is archived!

Obama doesn’t have a license to practice law. Obama signed the sequester bill, it’s all his fault. Republicans gave in on the tax increases Obama wanted earlier this year and now he wants more. We have a spending problem and you have problem with the facts!

You spew the same lies over and over, they won’t become the truth regardless of how many times you spew your nonsense. You’re full of shit.

Psycho Monkey in the closet?

I don’t even want to know where you pulled that one from.

I would imagine I scare people like you who make a living by trolling the internet. You don’t have to say it’s other people, it’s ok to admit my intellect scares you.

Who pays you to do this anyways?

She must really “Bring Home The Bacon” cause she surely isn’t there because of her wisdom. 

Are you back again for more? If you don’t know what I’m referring to then I guess you’re not that bright!

Who told you that you’re intelligent? You’re a scary psycho. Who changes your underwear?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwwY9y6O3hw

OOOH that’s scary psycho. You look like a little turd with those glass bottles on your fingers. You got your ass kicked.

There is no need to be scared. I only sent it to you because it was one of the most annoying things I have ever heard and felt I should share it with you.

That video is now engrained into your memory and will haunt you for the rest of your life. This is the curse I place upon thee troll. LMAO

You sure do scare easily, must be due to that paranoia of yours.

You’re a moron. People like you are just fly specks on your toothbrush.

You’re a psycho nut job.

Have you read your posts?

You better finish getting ready for bed before your orderly catches you screwing around on the computer again.

Nite nite, don’t let the psycho Monkeys bite!

BAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAA!

I figured since you laugh at your own worthless jokes all the time, I should be afforded the same luxury.

Why not, you’re “worthless” as a human being I mean.

You go nighty nite now little boy before your Momma spanks ya.

Don’t go to bed angry now. You know that is not good for your condition.

Get well soon.

I hear your Momma commin little fella. Best you go hide under your blanky.

Oh, okay.

It looks like the children have gone to bed.

Now the grownups can post in peace.

Nope, you are still up.

I warned you, the orderly is not going to be pleased. You better get to bed.

I hear yur Momma commin little boy.

I’m beginning to think you have a fetish for little boys. Do you belong to NAMBLA?

The more I talk to you the more disturbing you become.

Now take the medication the orderly gave you and go to bed.

I think you’re a psycho moron. You’re a psychotic idiot who see’s sock puppets everywhere. Are they peaking into your basement window right now? BOO

Aren’t you the one who was promoting NAMBLA memberships? I seem to remember that you were or was it natural born children you were marketing?.

I’m sorry, I am not paranoid like you and frankly don’t care what you think.

You are going to suffer a brain aneurism if you don’t settle down and get to bed. You have to take better care of yourself in your old decrepit age.

I wish you would give up being a troll. Being a paid liar on the internet is not a honorable job.

You can’t go to bed because you’re afraid that I might post something. You’re paranoid as all hell.

I’ve been a member here long before your new sock puppet, that makes you a moron and a TROLL.

You keep your delusions if they helps you justify your lunacy.

How’s the sale of little natural born children going for you and your NAMBLA buddies, you seem to know an awful lot about the subject.

Now who is the paranoid one screaming about socks?

How does being a member here long before my new sock puppet make you not a troll and me a moron and a troll? That makes absolutely no sense and only proves you have been creeping around here being a troll for a long time.

Now what exactly are you a “member” of here, besides NAMBLA?

Is Glenn Beck paying you to do this or are you just trying to impress him?

Hey Glenn look at me! I am defending you! Glenn! Glenn!

LMAO! You are all over the place, go get some sleep old timer.

You are. You’re always paranoid about sock puppets, you see them everywhere. Your a sicko. Again with your fixation with NAMBLA, sorry no natural born children here for your group. I don’t defend Glenn Beck so that’s another delusion you have. You spend an awful lot of time trying to discredit him here though. Are you jealous of GB? Go get a pet if you’re lonely, a parrot or something that will talk to you in real life and stay away from your NAMBLA buddies!

OOPS I hear yur Momma coming, youz better get in yur bed!

You make absolutely no sense. Thank you for demonstrating that to all the readers. Now go to bed and stop being a troll.

He was a lawyer! AND a damn good one you say?! He should have stuck to that, because he’s a lousy President. So if you say he’s using his political equity to play hardball, then you are basically admitting that he’s using his influence to intimidate the Republicans. When you do your taxes every year, how do you approach it? Do you pay as much as you possibly can, or do you get as many deductions as you can? I know which way I go on that one. If Republican could get a flat tax, the REAL definition of a “fair share” then I guarantee you they wouldn’t give a shit about loopholes because nobody (rich, poor, middle class, proletarian, bourgeoisie) would need them anyway.

How does somebody this stupid get elected into Congress in the first place?  ‘Quantitative easing’.  Stop using words that you know nothing about you old hag.

You, it’s all you scream about, SOCK PUTS, SOCK PUPPETS EVERYWHERE!!!

More of your membership drive for your chapter of NAMBA! No little “natural born “children for sale here pervert.

How much do you get paid from yur Momma for an allowance?

Well it looks like numb nuts are after me as well. You would think that any normal person would of let go the happen in the election around December and moved on with their lives but not this bigot that just keeps changing names over and over again and comes out every month like a woman having her lady day. I wonder if fool has the back bone to actually grow up once in his life. He has so much hate in his heart for us I all most pity his soul.

You’ve fallen into the trap. He gets lonely so he makes up another Sock Puppet and then he spews more of his famous quotes from other people until you die from boredom. There’s a new site just starting out for Conservatives. It’s interesting that you’re allowed to put up You Tube videos and stuff. I put the link in my profile. I signed up already. There’s a BLOG, a Forum and Videos.

Don’t worry about people you have no control over, life’s too short.

I hope you have a GREAT day Sam, smile, it can only get better. LOL

I’d assume Harvard elects smart people to be president of the Law Review. Every politician uses their influence to affect outcomes. Obama’s playing this brilliantly. He’s created an alternative that nobody wants, cuts spending, then uses it as a lever to get Congress to compromise on taxes. Supporting Obama’s position is the fact that the majority of Americans approved of his proposal of three dollars of cuts to one dollar of revenue through a combination of elimination of unessential loopholes and a slight increase in progressive taxation. It remains to be seen whether Democrats will go along with Obama on the entitlement cuts, but Obama claims he’ll fight them.

Flat tax proposals are brought to the floor about every four years then disappear without a trace. The current tax system is dysfunctional, but CBO believes a flat tax would rapidly widen income inequality by reducing rates on the rich, while increasing them on the low and middle class. Countries with lower inequality do better by almost any measure.

Dumber than a bag or rocks, and not quite as personable.

Good points. I agree that insurance companies often bank on dishonesty. There are some that I would call downright satanic. For example, one particular insurance company I have dealt with will often deny procedures performed only AFTER receiving written approval. However, I disagree with your contention that Medicare is more apt to pay appropriately than other insurance companies. Physicians can be accused of fraud if they turn in claims for some things that Medicare does not cover, although it is considered appropriate by state licensing boards, other insurance companies and the professions themselves. Medicare also auctions off administration of the program by region, thus resulting in multiple approaches to coverage in which denials occur for the same procedure based on the administrators of a particular region. Why does this happen? Because the government rules are an unfathomable morass that results in costs nearly twice that of private care for the same services. Again, the need for a solution doesn’t mean that government IS the solution and, unfortunately, this is where everyone seems to turn for answers. The other problem is that where unlimited healthcare is available, consumers do not appreciate the cost of that care. In states that require even a modest co-pay ($2-$5 per visit), vast cost savings are realized. Yet, the democrat approach is to require nothing as this is seen as cruel. I also believe that what you are referring to as an HSA is actually an MSA. HSA’s are accounts that allow for private investment of around $6,000 in a savings account that is also connected to a catastrophic insurance policy. Any monies not expended for healthcare can then be used as a minimal retirement investment in which the unused funds can be withdrawn with tax benefits after the age of 65, or anytime prior to that for any approved healthcare expenditures. MSA’s are usually accounts that are provided by companies or government in which a certain amount of money is deposited per year for insurance purposes and can’t be used as long term investments. The poor would never be able to use a typical HSA, but Medicaid and Medicare could be adapted to fit a MSA. Patients that are between insurance already have access to insurance through current HIPAA rules. Regardless, it should be the responsibility of the insured to PLAN for changes and, should they fail to do so, it should not suddenly become everyone else’s responsibility to provide for that person. There is a miniscule segment of the population that should be cared for (the developmentally disabled, the handicapped, etc) as a societal responsibility, but unfortunate circumstances, no matter how tragic, should not entitle the rest of us to lay claim to what was not earned by us and does not belong to us. Until we change our attitudes, there will only be a growing pool of those who have a towering sense of deserved entitlement that obligates everyone else to materialize the wants of the entitled.

Yes, it does take about that long. When I graduated, I was carrying several hundred thousand dollars in debt and it took quite a few years to even begin to earn enough to be able to pay off the loans. The majority of healthcare professionals are not supported by parents and have to take out the loans for schooling costs which are rising dramatically. In the meantime, interest accrues at drastic levels and, according to law, you can only refinance those loans once, except through private sources, which, until you have a significant track record under your belt, will not lend this money as it is often unsecured. Many people believe that most physicians come from families that are well off, but this was the minority when I was in school. From what I can see, little has changed, although one of the hidden costs of Obamacare is that healthcare education may soon be out of reach of all but the most wealthy. Thanks for your words!

You have to give him credit he knows how to put a room to sleep. I will just treat him as the troll he comes off as. As far as I see it he is no different than the other liberals spewing their hate for everything Conservative or Glenn Beck. I just signed up for the web site and hope they are on the ball when it comes to trolls.

If you don’t mind I am going to tell a few family members about this on face book.

The more the merrier.

I can see getting some sleep did no good for your mental state.

Don’t you feel you made a big enough ass out of yourself already?

For you to come back the next day and keep your trollish nonsense going does not reflect well on you. And that is without even getting into the insane things your are insinuating.

It’s hard to believe that somebody in their 60′s could act the way you do, but seeing is believing.

I am not saying this to be mean but you need serious professional help before you hurt someone or yourself.

Are you back again. Go display your sickness to someone else.

The only sickness on display is your posts.

Do you think what you do is acceptable behavior?

Let me sum up your posts: Bwhaaaaa Bwhaaaaaa

You’re a sick little TROLL, ahh man ahh boy!

OOPS

“Ahh man ahh boy!”

WTH? Is that more of your NAMBLA fantasies?

You are a sick freak.

It was you who said he had a membership to NAMBLA. Sorry, no natural born children for sale here.

Yeah the Soviet Union turned out great. Other countries doing awesome with low inequality? Cuba, North Korea, Laos, Vietnam, China, great places to live right? You are so full of shit I’m done humoring you.

I don’t ever remember saying that. You sure like to make up things.

For the sake of full disclosure, I do belong to the North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes. But we don’t molest children like your North American Man Boy Love Association does. We oppose you and your sick group.

Speaking of that, I think your little psycho Monkey boy needs a hug. You need to be a better father figure to him, he is very impressionable. If you have any love for him you will stop filling his head with your sickness.

You brought up your infatuation with NAMBLA, not me. Can you see where you’re going when you back-peddle?

Go display your sickness to someone else, I’m not interested.

You must be interested in what I say if you have me on Follow.

You are one irrational old man. If you had any rationality you would stop now.

Besides the reasons like the CBO’s, why don’t you think a flat tax has been instituted?

I have you on follow just to piss you off. Go away sicko.

Yeah yeah sure, whatever. You can lie to me all you want but you can’t lie to yourself. Or maybe you can?

You really do need to get professional help and stop being a troll, it is very unhealthy, especially in your condition. You and your small group of trolls are so full of hate. Sad, so very sad.

You have shown yourself to be a deranged old man that is out of touch with reality. I don’t need to highlight that fact any longer here.

Go ahead and reply back, I will let you get the last word in since you think that is how arguments are won. lol

You’re an obsessed sicko. Go away. Take your sickness somewhere else. Grow up.

Idiot Maxine and most of her idiot minority politicians, at every level, were granted acceptance into colleges as affirmative action applicants, meaning, they didn’t have the SAT/ACT scores and or GPAs to get accepted like every other student. Now, we have Maxine & the other idiots in D.C., like Shelia Jackson Lee & the black congressman who thought Guam would capsize if we continued to stockpile military assets on that island!

So, now we’re supposed to be surprised by further idiotic comments from another failed black politician?

Nothing newsworthy here.