White Smoke: The world meets Pope Francis

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The white smoke came out today in the Vatican indicating a new pope had been selected. The man of the hour is Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio from Argentina, who assumes the name Pope Francis. Who is he and what are people saying after the selection?

The latest updates from TheBlaze’s Faith Editor Billy Hallowell:

In a historic move, 76-year-old Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina was elected pope today. As the AP reports, Bergoglio is the first head of the Catholic Church ever to come from the Americas and the first from outside Europe in more than a millennium. He chose the name Pope Francis.

Bergoglio‘s age was a surprise, considering that many commentators assumed the cardinals would select someone younger. But, alas, they chose a man who, by expert accounts, is more than qualified for the job.

The Catholic Church’s new leader was born in 1936 and he has four brothers and sisters. While he originally wanted to be a chemist, his path took a very obvious turn. In 1958, the National Catholic Reporter reports that he joined the Society of Jesus and began preparing for the priesthood. Just over five decades later, he will now lead the church that he joined as a young man.

Prior to his selection, CNN reported that Pergoglio is known as a “straight-shooter” who has no problem calling situations as he sees them. Potentially crushing dreams that he will take the church in a more liberal direction, he subscribes to the Catholicism’s most conservative wing. On contraceptives and gay marriage, he has, in the past, taken strict, conservative stances.

 

TheBlaze has continuing updates and more information on this breaking story HERE

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    Never heard of him any of you Catholics know who he is? 

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    I imagine Obama is having kittens that the College of Cardinals did not make him the next pope nor declare him as messiah of the world…

  • Draxx

    I think Obummer had “Sh*t Bricks” because the New Pope is Not a Liberal Socialist…

    I am not a Catholic and really do not mean any disrespect to their Faith, I Totally Mean Disrespect to Obummer though!

  • Draxx

    On a Bad Note, the Only Catholic Priest Names I can recall are those that are Publicly Apologizing for the Wrong Doings of Other Priests…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jerry-Smith/100000454083900 Jerry Smith

    Exactly the kind of man we need for the times. I am sure there will be an outpuring of stories from the left wing propaganda machine lamenting that the Cardinals did not elect someome more hip. You know, someone like Sean Penn.

  • Anonymous

    He thinks income inequality is a major problem that needs to be addressed and picked the patron saint of the environment. The Catholic church is rather liberal other than those social issues (abortion, homosexuality, etc).  Probably a large part of why the Catholic vote tends to be pretty evenly split. I don’t think any liberals were expecting a Pope that would make any significant changes on those social issues.

  • MarsBarsTru7

    I’m not Catholic, but I will still pray that this Pope will be better than the last, as I did for the last Pope. 
    More importantly, I pray that the Catholic church will stand strong on the universal moral tenets that all of Christianity holds to, and that through their efforts, as well as through all of Christianity, more people come to be saved and that Christian charity and goodwill prevail.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, when one looks at matters other than abortion/gay rights/etc the Catholic church and this Pope are pretty liberal on things like healthcare (contraception excepted of course), the environment, and income inequality/poverty. After all, consider that Europe is socialist.

  • MarsBarsTru7

     The Catholic Church may seem liberal on the issue of “income inequality” but according to their core tenets they are not. What they believe in is charity. They believe in those who have being charitable to those who don’t have. The vast majority of Christian conservatives share this very same tenet. Unfortunately there exists within the Catholic Church many who do not make the distinction between voluntary charity and government enforced socialism – which is not really charity in any sense. It has nothing to do with relating to their tenets directly. It has to do with a long history of the Catholic Church compromising with tyrants for the purpose of making sure that the poor in a given civilization were taken care of. There is nothing within Catholic teaching that advocates the seizing of economic control by governments for secular pragmatic purpose.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Understood Draxx, understood.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Be To God for our new Pope.He appears to be a kindly man and will lead  the True
    Church of Our Lord.2,000 years young.

  • Anonymous

    Messiah?  More like Pharaoh.  Or fairy-O.  Or Mess-eye-uh!
    Someone needs to inform him and his staff that God is in control. Nothing is allowed or directed to happen without permission from His Throne. -  Now THAT’S comforting.

  • Anonymous

    How encouraging that we now have a Pope who is a humble man. One who shunned all the trappings and riches that were afforded him as a Cardinal. May he continue to show his great humility as Pope. May God bless him and keep him safe.

  • Anonymous

    I like to see BO washing the feet of the sick and forego living in the WH. I wont be holding my breathe

  • MarsBarsTru7

    Your comment would have a point if Christian conservatives weren’t concerned with the poor or the environment. Here’s the rub though – there’s a difference between people making voluntary choices to give to charity and help the poor and to preserve the environment vs. government seizing the control of an economy under the premise of redistributing wealth or doing the same under the premise of preserving the environment.

    Using the threat of deadly violence to impose systems of control and steal wealth under the premise of redistributing wealth or preserving the environment is wrong by standards of Christian tenets, Catholic or otherwise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anne-Caluwaert/100000218117532 Anne Caluwaert

    Your answers always make me laugh.

  • Draxx

    atl134, I will be honest, I have No Clue About The New Pope (I never even heard of him before, so he could be Good/Bad/Indifferent and I would not know his intentions until he actually showed the world what they are!)… I Hope He Is A Good Pope, not a Dope with a Rope around his waist!

  • Draxx

    Well Stated MarsBars…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anne-Caluwaert/100000218117532 Anne Caluwaert

    I hope he stick to conservative, godly principles, and to heck with Odumbo, the DemoncRats and the Progressives.

  • Anonymous

     This Jesuit is from Argentina, perhaps that is different from the European model of bankrupting the world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anne-Caluwaert/100000218117532 Anne Caluwaert

    Very true. Their church as well as mine and many others believe that charity begins at the pulpit and the government should only be governing and protecting the people. I was terribly upset with them when the majority voted for the Evil One for a second time.

  • Sue Beal

    The gospel is not liberal nor is the Catholic Church.  The people in the church are a different story.  Jesus even said that the poor you will always have with you.  The gospel is much deeper than what a liberal interpretation gives.  Steeling from the rich is not charity, it is a sin.  The 10th commandment says thou shall not covet thy neighbors goods.  Class envy is sinful.  We have gotten on a wrong path and have taken much at face value.  This president is taken us to a state of desperation so that we will gladly go to socialism.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jayne-Nielsen/100000024501720 Jayne Nielsen

    At least the Catholic Church stood by their values and faith and elected a conservative successor for Pope.  I hope Pope Francis will lead as he has done in the past with conviction.   I’m sure Oblamo is already strategizing his next narcissistic move to “impress” this Pope although he’s probably wondering why he wasn’t on the short list.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=567330922 Gail Jones

    Well I knew it would not be one of the favorites as they have all been charged along with “Joey the  Rat” with crimes against humanity by the Governing Council of The International Tribunal into crimes of Church and State. As has the so called queen Elizabeth Windsor (Mountbatten)
    and Stephen Harper. They have been charged and CONVICTED and there are warrants out for their arrest. This public notice is issued to the Members of Parliament of Canada the Canadian judiciary, the governmental civil service and the active serving members of all Canadian police and military forces ,as well as to all citizens of Canada. MORE INFO AT ITCCS.org  or opt-income…………………………CANADA HAS BEEN DISSOLVED !

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=567330922 Gail Jones

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=567330922 Gail Jones

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  • Anonymous

    All I can say is I hope the best will happen

  • Anonymous

    It is very comforting to
    hear all the good reports coming in about the newest representative of the
    church. His humility and lack of the pomp and strappings of a cardinal during
    his life of service is very encouraging. Blessings on him, as he will have a lot
    of work in his new function to repair and reverse the scandals that have
    recently smeared the catholic church. He will no doubt keep a close eye on those
    happenings and work at preventing of them, getting rid of the bad apples and
    promoting the good works that are taking place in the world. May he be example
    of charity to all the priests and nuns. I’d rather see a good servant like him,
    than some ‘reverends’ in name only.

  • MarsBarsTru7

    As I said to atl134, the Catholic church has a long history of compromising with tyrants, using whatever influence they have to make sure that the poor are taken care of. They aren’t “socialists” by nature as they believe in voluntary charity (All Christian behavior must be voluntary to have any merit – by Christian standards). But they perceive it is better to work with authoritative governments to make sure that the poor are taken care of than to let the poor languish under the yoke of tyranny.

    In contrast, Protestants distinguish a difference between secular government socialism and charity and typically strive against secular government systems of control altogether (It was popular for Catholics and non-Christian Europeans, including the Romans, to call non-Catholic Christians “Christian Anarchists” – or just plain “anarchists” – for a long time).

    However, I think that the Catholic Church is beginning to understand how secularized government controls are never to the benefit of the people (now that secularized government is more popular in traditionally Catholic countries than government openly tied to Christian tenets and the effects of long term secular government can be viewed in a historical sense). They are changing. I hope it’s a trend that continues, although I fear it may result in another schism.

  • MarsBarsTru7

    Thank you! :)

  • Anonymous

    Maybe the queen will give obambommer a night hood to make up for not getting to be pope

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1594879504 Grace Wade

    Poooooooooooooooooooooooooope?  Please.  I can’t understand the lack of decorum and respect from Glenn Beck while the Church has been dealing with the retirement of Pope Benedict XVI and the election of Pope Francis. 

  • Anonymous

     Sadly Argentina’s socialism and union control took them from a powerful and successful economy at the end of the 19th century to a bankrupt socialist state at the end of the 20th century.  I agree 100% with the comments about voluntary charity and I hope that that is his position.  I am a Christian, not a Catholic … and I thought that the last Pope was actually quite on point on most issues (when I heard him speak).  I am optimistic that that will continue.  I pray that I never see the day when we get a proAbortion pope or when any of the Christian leaders I respect take that position.  You can be proAbortion … or be a believer in scripture.  You can’t be both.

  • Anonymous

    Well, it’s better a new pope than a world wide islamic imam.  What’s their big final imam called, the dude in the well?  Mucky?  Muffy?  Mock thee?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F74GJZL3LPB7355EYZIY5UJ3PY CharlesE

    75 is EXTREME old AGE!  

  • Anonymous

    Where is that Zeregon guy? You know, the guy who said that Pope Benedict was going to lead the fourth reich?  LMAO!   I hope you’re doing some soul searching right now you freakin lunatic.

  • Anonymous

     Please, can we have just one event in this world that you don’t somehow tie in to Obama? It’s a joyous day for Catholics..can’t you just let them have it ?

  • Anonymous

    BUT……  OBAMA IS PRACTICING TO BE A GOLF PRO AFTER HIS RETIREMENT IN 2024 AFTER HIS FOURTH TERM IN OFFICE    ….   THAT’S ALL.   OH YES   .,..AND HE WILL STILL REMAIN GOD   —-  OUT RANKING ALL RELIGIOUS LEADERS   —  PAST  ..  PRESENT   ..  AND FUTURE    …  HAVE A NICE DAY.

  • Kathy Jenson

    So true.  It really isn’t charity if the government had to pry it out of your fingers and force you to give it to someone else.  Charity  given with a kind heart of our own volition is what the church teaches

  • Anonymous

    h

  • Anonymous

    have you been inhaling the white smoke or the black one?

  • http://www.facebook.com/ron.thompson.3154 Ron Thompson

    I find this hilarious! Every time there is a new Pope pick, the  liberal media throws out what they are supposed to be like! How they are to feel towards matters involving the Catholic faith, wanting him to; change drastically the Catholic faith to fit the media’s liberal agenda. Each time it doesn’t happened and they are shocked that the Catholics didn’t succumb to their pressure. I absolutely love it! The Church has made limited changes throughout history, but it still maintains a morality and higher standard then the liberals of today!
     

  • Josh Nelson

    God will use these men to the best of his ability. I am not a catholic nor do I think that their church or belief system is the one for me or my family but I respect the move that the current leadership has made. It may enable them to do a little house cleaning. Only time will tell. Unfortunately, this world has taken a turn for the worse and he’s got quite the fixer-upper in his own house, to deal with. 

  • Anonymous

    Well, I am not Catholic either but I recognize the importance of the Pope on the massive numbers of his flock in South America and happy for the choice. SA is important and my country is all too consumed with the Middle East while I fear there is some burning going on there that the Odummer isn’t paying attention to. I once worked with a college full of Jesuits and found them delightful, but not humble, colleagues. So this was a real surprise for me. For the first time, a Jesuit! I don’t expect much to change, though I hope for a stiffer resolve toward holding the line against Islam, and a better relationship with Israel, and protestants, recognizing the Judeo/Christian ethic is our standard bearer.

  • Anonymous

    If Catholics are so charitable how come their catholic schools are so expensive and they don’t give  scholarship  to desrving students.  The nuns and priest only cater to rich kids in their school.

  • http://AnnArborRealEstateTalk.com Missy Caulk

    I pray he allows the lie of “brain death” being true death to be revisited. 

  • Anonymous

    I hope Pope Francis is a true man of God and I pray God leads him in truth and in renewal of those who have faith to renew there faith in God and follow JESUS to the ends of the earth and do the part God is asking each of us thru the church and thru our individual lives.God bless the Pope today.

  • http://twitter.com/trojanmom8 Paty Newman

    I think it’s fantastic that the new Pope is of the Jesuit order. I so admire their discipline, their thirst for the truth, their relentless search for knowledge and their courage. It was good to hear the news that a Jesuit priest is now Pope, and not that the Jesuits have been kicked out of the Catholic Church, which is more what I would have expected. It’s great to know that I was wrong to think they would never do this!!

  • Anonymous

    Obama is the Dope on a Rope!  I pray that this Pope will not be the False Prophet, but if it’s true about his conservative stance, he most likely won’t.

  • SoThere

    I heard Obama was seen in the White House walking around in a new white robe and cap, waiting for the white smoke and a phone call. He was expecting MSNBC to name him as the next Pope.

  • http://twitter.com/MJoemal19 Joseph Maloney

    Pope Francis I is the first Jesuit, and the first from the americas.  Pope Francis was born in Argentina to Italian immgrants.  Saint Malachy called him “Peter the Roman”, and our last Pope.  Catholics in Argentina are similar to American Catholics in church attendance.

  • Anonymous

     He does believe/studied in Liberation Theology …ring a bell? Hint: rev. Wright.
    I heard it said twice today when just stating who he is / where he came from, etc.meaning as a fact .

  • Anonymous

    I am not a Catholic although I wish all the Best and Blessings for this Pope and the followers all over the world.

  • Anonymous

     prior to prez johnson enacting food stamps, head start, medicaid & medicare there was MAS: Mutual Aid Society. It was a charity & worked in neighborhoods where one knew who was a scammer & who really needed. As a child we always donated time to MAS. Then the Dems made it a government entitlement & can’t run it correctly so a lot of money scammed by bad people & a lot of good people not getting what hey need

  • mspatdev

    I agree with you teddie77.  

  • Draxx

    SoThere, he was walking around in a White Robe and Cap, but when the caps came off he Realized He Attended The Wrong Party… lol (and I am sure those white men didn’t like it).

  • Anonymous

    Good post, and to add to your thoughts, many progressives with little means believe it is good and right to force others with more means to donate on their behalf.  I belive this is called theft by any other comparison.

  • Anonymous

    I wish him well, and I will pray for his conversion.

  • mspatdev

    I am not Catholic, but I have always tried to watch the changing of the Popes. This has happened for hundreds of years all of the rituals that they go through. England has a lot of traditions. I am sure that Pope Francis will do a great job. He understands the poor and the socialist governments besides everything else that he must attend to. Congratulations to the Catholic church and the Pope. May god bless him and watch over him.

  • Draxx

    Sorry people bad joke… I am not racist, it just seemed like the thing to say at the moment!

  • Anonymous

     It’s b/c BO had to do something today to try & take headlines away from the Pope event

  • Anonymous

     Not sure what your referencing. But not my point anyway. I understand that folks are upset with the President. And everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just get so tired of every single world event being somehow tied to Obama. For 1.2 billion Catholics in this world, today is a momentous occasion.Agree or disagree, just let them have the day. Discus the merits of this man as Pope..just leave politics out of it. But that’s just my opinion… !!

  • Anonymous

    If you think Catholic Charities are not financed by Government grants you need to stop drinking. No way does the Catholic personal tithe pay for church charities and Catholic business extravagances. 

    Why, since Linden Johnson’s “Great Society”, do you think
    the majority of we-the-people elect representatives so skilled and so willing
    to co-opt Christian and constitutional values? Why do the majority of Catholics
    vote for Democratic candidates offering “social justice” type grants and
    programs paid by the taxpayers?

  • Anonymous

    If you think Catholic Charities are not financed by Government grants you need to stop drinking. No way does the Catholic personal tithe pay for church charities and Catholic business extravagances. 
    Why, since Linden Johnson’s “Great Society”, do you think the majority of we-the-people elect representatives so skilled and so willing to co-opt Christian and constitutional values? Why do the majority of Catholics vote for Democratic candidates offering “social justice” type grants and programs paid by the taxpayers?

  • Anonymous

    If you think Catholic Charities are not financed by Government grants you need to stop drinking. No way does the Catholic personal tithe pay for church charities and Catholic business extravagances. 
    Why, since Linden Johnson’s “Great Society”, do you think the majority of we-the-people elect representatives so skilled and so willing to co-opt Christian and constitutional values? Why do the majority of Catholics vote for Democratic candidates offering “social justice” type grants and programs paid by the taxpayers?

  • Anonymous

    A conservative pope is the best thing for Catholicism now as so many MSM think it should be otherwise. I am thrilled at our new Pope Francis, a humble man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dana.h.binkley Dana Binkley

    I have always heard that in the last days the Pope would be the false prophet for the anti-christ. If this pope is as conservative as what is written above, then I don’t think that our time is yet at hand. 

  • Anonymous

    Not sure where you information comes from…mine comes from first-hand experience from several parishes in different cities and through first-hand accounts from family and friends.

    Catholic (or any non-public) schools aren’t funded by taxes, except for vouchers (a relative rarity). Tuition (needed to pay teacher salaries, etc.) almost always is considerably less per student than what it costs to educate a public school student, and parochial students – well-to-do or not – often have proportionately higher academic achievements than their public school peers. Most parishes subsidize costs to run and maintain a school. Many offer scholarships based on need, sometimes through fundraising to supplement the church’s contribution. If I noticed “nuns and priest” catering to or acknowledging kids, it was almost always because of a student’s particular achievement (academic, athletic, musical, etc.) or their notable service/contribution/demeanor.

    None of the Catholic schools, teachers or administrations in my experience were perfect. None of the professed religious I know are perfect, and that includes my sister and aunt (may God rest her dear soul). Even so, I have not felt any discrimination because of a lack of “rich”ness nor favoritism for being related to a religious.

    Now let us rejoice in the blessing of our new Pope. Viva Il Papa!

  • Sandie

     Word is that the new pope leans left – social policies.

  • Sandie

     Catholic Charities  received a total of nearly $2.9 from the Faith-Based Initiatives Office of the US government in 2010.     In comparison, its annual revenue was $4.67 billion.
    Only about $140 million came from donations from diocesan churches  The
    remainder came from in-kind contributions, investments, program fees,
    and community donations.

    Catholic Charities is one of the largest in the US.  They are a network of charities that  provide services to people in need,  advocate for social
    justice,  and call  for the entire church and other
    people of good will to do the same.

  • Sandie

     They sure didn’t mind getting $2.9 from the Faith-Based Initiatives Office of the US government in 2010. for Catholic Charities USA.

  • MarsBarsTru7

     Actually there are plenty of Catholic schools, not just in the U.S. or Europe, but throughout the world, which have very low or free tuition. Yeah, many also charge a decently high price for tuition, but considering how energy costs and various regulations force them to spend more money than they otherwise would, driving their costs up, especially in large cities, I don’t blame them for charging a relatively high price in some parishes.

    Also, some Catholic schools offer much lower tuition prices for church members and lower income families. You should check with your local Catholic schools and find out if this is the case in your area before becoming discouraged by the prices offered on the surface.

  • MarsBarsTru7

     Well, he’s against abortion and gay marriage… so I’m not sure what social issues that he leans left on.

  • Anonymous

    That is Liberation Theology that comes out of the South American Catholic church – I believe the Jesuits began it. I heard this evening that Pope Francis has fought against Liberation theology.

  • Sandie

     No birth certificate fracas for him – LOL!

  • Anonymous

    It’s simply not possible to get a proabortion Pope because the doctrines of “do not kill” never change.

  • Anonymous

    This is absolutely and blatantly false. Stop trolling.

  • Sandie

     The twelfth Imam is Muhammad al-Mahdi.

  • MarsBarsTru7

    They get money from various governments… in very small increments compared to their total budget… and they also give money to some governments…

    Understand that the Catholic Church has many members that pay tithes through a virtual auto-pay system, collected similar to taxes. Members will voluntarily offer a portion of each of their paycheck to the church in countries/areas of the world that allow for it. Besides church tithes the Catholic Church is also a big real estate holder and rents land throughout the world. Also, the Catholic Church runs many private schools (including universities), they own/operate many hospitals throughout the world (throughout most of the last half millennium to the first half of the 20th century more than half the world’s hospitals were associated either directly or indirectly with the Catholic Church), and have various pilgrimage sites at which people donate. AND they have the largest volunteer labor force on the planet between nuns, monks, priests, and volunteer parishioners.

  • MarsBarsTru7

    Repeated from a reply to another person:

    They get money from various governments… in very small increments compared to their total budget… and they also give money to some governments…

    Understand that the Catholic Church has many members that pay tithes through a virtual auto-pay system, collected similar to taxes. Members will voluntarily offer a portion of each of their paycheck to the church in countries/areas of the world that allow for it. Besides church tithes the Catholic Church is also a big real estate holder and rents land throughout the world. Also, the Catholic Church runs many private schools (including universities), they own/operate many hospitals throughout the world (throughout most of the last half millennium to the first half of the 20th century more than half the world’s hospitals were associated either directly or indirectly with the Catholic Church), and have various pilgrimage sites at which people donate. AND they have the largest volunteer labor force on the planet between nuns, monks, priests, and volunteer parishioners.

  • Sandie

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  • Sandie

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  • MarsBarsTru7

    Unfortunately many charities throughout the world have turned belly up or are struggling mightily just to stay afloat. More and more of the would-be donors are either struggling too much with their own economic issues to donate as much or are actually impoverished and reliant on charity and/or govt. handouts.

    Churches throughout the world are experiencing this same fate.

    Collectivist government eats everything… not just business.

  • Anonymous

    It looks expensive because you pay the money up front. You still pay for public schools, but you do it through taxes. It seems cheap because you don’t notice it coming out of your wallet each pay check.

    “ they don’t give  scholarship  to desrving students” – Depends on the school, depends on cost, since money doesn’t grow on trees. We’re used to getting “free” scholarships and stuff from schools, but the fact of the matter is that the money comes from somewhere. That somewhere is our own wallets through taxes.

    “The nuns and priest only cater to rich kids in their school.” – This statement is based on absolutely nothing at all. It’s equivalent to saying “Your dog wants to lick my shoe.” It’s just some biased stereotype you probably got from a localized incident or two and you’re trying to make yourself feel better by bashing them.

  • Anonymous

    People that are anti-Catholic will tell you that and also take the book of revelations and “twist it to their destruction” to “prove” it. You can make that book mean whatever you want it to mean if you really want.

  • No name

    Could not watch video on the new Pope because the Publix commercial froze with 11 sec. to go. 

  • Anonymous

    Obama doesn’t want to be Pope, he wants to be ruler and King of the World and probably thinks he has a shot at it.  Obama will try to do all he can to sway Pope Francis over to his ways and thinking.   Give us a break….I am more worried about the state of our country….and where we are headed.

  • Dr James I Hicks

    I am happy to realize that Pope Francis is a conservative Pope.  Therefore, he will not approve of President Obama’s liberal, social ideology. 

  • landofaahs

    Rumors and accusations that he was implicit in the dirty wars of the 70′s.  Some charge he did nothing when some priests were killed.  Nothing confirmed and could be false.

  • landofaahs

    He came close.  He was not voted the Pope but has been voted the DOPE.

  • landofaahs

    Communion wafers resemble crackers….we know how obama has a problem with those.

  • landofaahs

    The Catholic church seems to support socialism because they claim to care about the poor but I wonder if this pope will divest the church of it’s vast wealth and give it all to the poor or will they like most socialists, think that socialism is for everyone else and not or them.

  • landofaahs

    I have a biblical solution to the sexual problems of the Catholic church that also keeps celebacy for the priests, if the pope would want to know.

  • Anonymous

    If you inhale enough of that white smoke you can imagine anything . I don’t think Obama was waiting for it to come out of a chimney in Rome however.

  • Sandie

    I am not aware of any popes that were pro abortion and gay marriage. He is a strict conservative on personal morality

    He is for social and economic justice. He has spent his life advocating for social justice and the poor. In 2009 he made headlines for criticizing the government of Argentina for allowing “huge inequities” between the rich and the poor to develop. In 2007 at a gathering of Latin American bishops he said “The unjust distribution of goods persists, creating a situation of social sin that cries out to Heaven and limits the possibilities of a fuller life for so many of our brothers.” Our leftist leaders think government should be involved in preventing economic disparity and redistributing wealth/goods also.

  • Sandie
  • Sandie

    That is all well and good, and I did not say that they didn’t, but as I said, Catholic Charities received a total of nearly $2.9 from the US government in 2010 while their revenue was $4.67 billion. Only about $140 million came from donations from diocesan churches. The remainder came from in-kind contributions, investments, program fees, and community donations. My post was to show that they get an enormous amount of money from the US government to do their social services work..

  • MarsBarsTru7

    True enough, and if he is a proponent of influencing governments to take an active hand in redistribution of wealth, then he is much like many past Popes who have believed the same thing.

    Like I said though, it’s not necessarily a matter of them (Catholics)/Pope Francis believing in secular government seizing control of a populations wealth.

    For hundreds of years the Catholic Church was the only organized and influential intermediary between poor populations and the despots/nobility/tyrants that ruled over them. They have a loooong history of trying to encourage authoritarian rulers to be kind to the poor populations of their country.

    Taken at face value there’s nothing wrong with it. What’s unfortunate is that they don’t speak out against the forced poverty that such rulers impose with their authoritarian rule. That’s where they go wrong.

    Their position is – work with the rulers to care for the poor. Our position is – decry and oust rulers who oppress liberty.

    That’s where the conflict lies. It’s not as if we don’t believe in charity or they don’t believe in liberty. It’s all about the approach.

  • MarsBarsTru7

    Aaaah, Sandie, I see where you’re coming from now. You’ve only looked up “Catholic Charities USA” (information on Wikipedia) which is only a Catholic Church associated charity conglomerate… It doesn’t represent the Catholic Church directly and it doesn’t even come close to representing the Catholic Church’s charity work worldwide.

    By itself it’s a large organization… they tout themselves as the second largest social service organization next to the federal government. However, they’ve become increasingly secularized and have slowly been distancing from a connection to the actual Catholic Church.

    Considering the size and scope of what the Catholic Church itself engages in within the U.S. I believe it is a safe assumption that Catholic Charities USA is neither representative of the Catholic Church, nor representative of the bulk of Catholic charity that takes place within the U.S.

  • Anonymous

    6 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching[a] you received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, 8 nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”
    11 We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. 12 Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat. 13 And as for you, brothers and sisters, never tire of doing what is good.  

    The Bible, the real source of the Catholic church, is not for communism,  as is revealed here in 2 Thessalonians chapter 3

  • Sandie

    Exactly. I wonder if he will try to be more persuasive about the economic justice issue. There is the UN with their desire for One World governance and redistribution of wealth from richer nations to poorer nations. The Church still has a lot of influence.

  • Anonymous

    I sympathize with you Henry, we all do.

  • Sandie

    Mars, No, I don’t think you do. I didn’t say or imply that the organization was representative of the entir Catholic Church’s charity work world wide. My post was about the fact that the US government does give funds to them as opposed to claims that there is no government funding or implications that the Church was self supporting their charity work.

    Incidently, I didn’t look up Catholic Charities USA at wikipedia. The info can be found in the NYT – or go here:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/29/us/for-bishops-a-battle-over-whose-rights-prevail.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.zore Mary Zore

    Actually it is a split church and I think American Catholic Bishops have been liberal in the area of what they call social justice issues, some of them buying into liberation theology which was condemned by John Paul II. THis Pope condemned socialistic liberation theology and I believe he supports the charity which comes from individuals rather than government controlled charity. He really appears to be God’s chopice for the job right now and I think he will help unify the church, strengthen the lay people’s role of prayer and devotion and bring about the devotion to the Immaculate Heart requested by Christ Himself in the apparitions at Fatima, Portugal in 1917. The Triumph og the Immaculate Heart will usher in the reign of the Sacred Heart. God be Praised!

  • Guest

    Beck will hate the new Pope; he supports social justice.

  • Vincent Armijo

     So very true.  Except for a few topics, they lean left or fall to the left for all the rest.  My ex-wife’s catholic church made jokes about one of the priests because *gasp* he was a conservative republican.  And when I surveyed the cars in the parking lot of her church over the years, the majority were adorned with liberal bumper stickers (esp. Obama stickers). 

  • http://twitter.com/nutts2020 nutt

    Who’s the idiot writing this? Black smoke indicates the election of the pope, not white. Small detail; but come on…

  • Zooropa Fly

    It’s white! Am I missing something ?

  • Anonymous

    Do you think the mandatory tithing model of the Old
    Testament impersonalized donations to ‘widows and orphans”? If poverty is added
    to the donation list, do you think the needy become more detached, indifferent
    and entitled when receiving from government or an institution rather that a
    person? Do you think the Rabbis distributing the tithes were more prone to
    aloofness and the donors more robbed of mission?

     

    Do you think the improved New Testament charity and
    compassion model is exemplified by the Samaritan who takes personal risk, uses
    his own time and money, follows up to ensure he alone assumes financial
    liability, assures the victim can manage on his own and rejects notoriety and
    applause?

     

    Do you think the poverty social-justice of Jesus for his
    compassionate disciples is “They do
    not need to go away hungry, you give them something to eat” should be embedded in
    church doctrine? Mat.14: 13-21

  • Anonymous

    Can you imagine Obama and the new Pope from the city of the 7 hills linking up on their versions of “Social-Justice”. We might then see the fragile 7 years of prosperity as predicted.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-A-Bullard-Jr/1494713236 William A. Bullard Jr.

    Well it might be funny with all the asides on ‘Obama in white’ but it is a good indicator of how far my Churchmen have fallen.  The time has come for the house to be purged, all of  Vatican II and its attendant heresies burnt from out of the church, and our house be repurified; “Catholics for Obama’ should get out and find themselves some sort of scam of their own, prehaps the “1st PostPartum Church of Moral partial birth forceps Infanticide” or some such silliness.  They do not belong here as do the others, women priests, homosexual marriage, and yes we “cannot be friends wih Muslims” and still be good Catholics.  Islam is a Christian heresy.

  • MarsBarsTru7

    Got it. I think we’re both thoroughly clear on the issue now. ;)

  • http://twitter.com/nutts2020 nutt

    ok – I’m the idiot writing that – been a loooooong week!

  • Zooropa Fly

    I know !

  • Anonymous

      Last night the news reported that he is for he poor and social Jusice” he may be conservative on some things but if he is for social justice this is the beginning of the end of the Catholic Church….
    Though it started when John Paul II announced “there are many paths to God” during a trip to India…… My Bible says otherwise…… I left the Catholic church a long time ago and am now worship as a Southern Baptist…

  • Anonymous

    This Pontiff, Francis Bergoglio, seems to have compassion for mankind, life, and the Work of Jesus. He showed his dedication while serving in Argentina, Buenos Aires as a Jesuit priest.  If I remember correctly the Jesuits were recognized as risking their own lives to save Jews during the Holocaust of World War II. 

  • compresale

    Lol @ glenn worried as to wheter this new pope will care about the poor too much ..can’t have the pope acting like Jesus can we ?

  • Derek T

    Now that Pope Francis has criticized the worst and most extreme aspects of capitalism and obstinately refused to tow the Tea Party line of that right-wing Soviet atheist Ayn Rand, are you going to start calling Pope Francis a “socialist” Mr Beck? 

    The Vatican under Benedict XVI supported Obamacare, and Benedict blamed growing economic inequality on terrorism.  Face it Mr Beck, the Catholic Church under the auspices of the Vatican does not and never will accept the Tea Party and far-right economics. 

    Pope Francis is starting a new Counter-revolution like the Counter-revolution that the great John Paul started against godless Soviet communism; this new Counter-revolution that Pope Francis is starting will be directed at the most extreme elements of capitalism, and replace it with a reformed capitalism that will put people first, and not corporate profits.     

  • Derek T

     I’m a Blue-Dog Democrat, but that was the funniest things I’ve read in a long time.  LOL