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Glenn spoke the Rick Perry, Governor of the great state of Texas, this morning on radio. The two covered a wide-range of topics from the state of the economy to the Second Amendment, and even Madonna’s recent attack on the Boy Scouts when she showed up to a GLAAD meeting dressed like a Boy Scout.

“It’s fascinating that someone would make that kind of gratuitous shot at an organization that has probably done as much to promote young men to the type of values that the vast majority of the people in this country aspire to,” Governor Perry said to Glenn. “You know, I get to see a lot of resumes, Glenn, you know, boards of regents or to head up agencies and commissions, and when I see Eagle Scout, I pull that out and I set it aside because I know something about this individual without ever meeting them.  Without reading anything else on their resume, I know that as a young man they made a decision to follow a long and arduous path to reach that Eagle Scout award and that if they went through that long process between the ages of 10 and 15—16 years old, that those qualities, those characteristics, those values are still very much alive in that young man who’s asking to work for you and that’s the kind of people I want surrounding me.  That’s the type of individuals I want to be working with and I’m counting on to take the great State of Texas forward.”

Glenn agreed, explaining that he too has a very high opinion of young men he meets that make it to Eagle Scout.

It had been awhile since Glenn had touched base with the Governor, so he quickly shifted the conversation back to business. Glenn wanted to get Perry’s take on thing big topics in the news that have been on his mind lately: finance, education, and the Second Amendment.

Common Core, a recent education program Glenn covered on TheBlaze TV, was stopped in Texas by Governor Perry. Glenn was curious to know why the Governor shared his feelings on the programs.

“Could you explain a little bit about why these things are so insidious and what people need to understand?” Glenn asked. “Because it seems to me it is a backdoor to cut off all rights to parents and to states on anything to have to do with education.”

“Well, it is, and it’s a great concern that we’ve seen this effort to bypass oversight by Michael Williams, the Commissioner, you know, the legislature for that matter, because the legislature is a microcosm of the state,” Perry responded. “This is a conservative state, and I absolutely agree with education chairman Patrick and TA commissioner Williams that we need to ensure that there is appropriate transparency, quality control, oversight of the CSCOPE.”

Perry also noted that he and his state strongly support homeschooling. Commenting on the German family who are in a legal battle to get political asylum in the United States to be able to homeschool their children, Perry said, “Let me tell you that won’t stand in the State of Texas.  As a matter of fact, if there’s a state that is stronger from the standpoint of supporting parents’ individual rights to homeschool their children than Texas, I don’t know which state that is.”

Another concerning topic on Glenn’s mind is what went on in Cyprus over the weekend. The government is taking 7% to 10% of the savings their citizens currently have in bank accounts, and have shut down their bank accounts until at least Thursday.

“It’s really to send a message that this is not your money,” Glenn said.

“What’s happening over in Europe will eventually come here if we don’t turn the page, and it may come anyway,” Glenn added.  “How does somebody ‑‑ how does a state protect to make sure that the people’s money in their banks never fall under this, that they just can’t, they just can’t seizure money or in a state’s case that they just don’t take the money from the state?”

Governor Perry’s belief is that what is happening in Cyprus are just the canaries in the cole mine.

“I will suggest to you that are nothing more than a piece of paper are ‑‑ that may be just about what they’re worth.  I mean, if you don’t have physical gold, it’s one of the reasons that, you know, we were in the process in Texas of bringing gold that belongs to the State of Texas back into the state,” the Governor told Glenn.

Governor Perry went on to explain that Texas legislature in the process of bringing the gold they own back to the state. And despite Glenn’s skepticism that it could be done, because of rehypothecation, Perry seemed confident.  Rehypothecation is when a bank or other broker-dealer takes the collateral pledged by its clients and reuses that same collateral to cover it’s own borrowing. 

“I’ll tell you Mexico they’re [the Federal Reserve] going to turn down.  They’ve already turned down Germany at the Federal Reserve, and it’s all because of rehypothecation.  When people understand what rehypothecation really means, the game is up. And I’d be surprised if Texas is allowed to get their gold back.”

“If we own it, I will suggest to you that that’s not someone else’s determination whether we can take possession it, bring it back or not,” Gov. Perry responded.

Glenn liked that answer quite a bit.

“This is a very good transition and I know you didn’t mean it this way but I’m going to take it that way because it makes me feel better. There is currently, and you know, a serious and perhaps the biggest and most serious attempt to do this since reconstruction,” Glenn said. “And when they tried to grab the guns from African‑American and freedmen, there is a serious attack on guns, you can’t buy ammo, you can’t buy guns, and what’s going to happen if Colorado passes it and it starts to move in that way and the president just says, ‘You know what?  It’s moving that way and that’s where we’re going?'”

“Well, I think this gets right back to the conversation and the strong argument that we’ve made for the last couple of years relative to the Tenth Amendment and that our Founding Fathers understood clearly that, you know, there are, there are enumerated powers in our Constitution,” Gov. Perry stated. “It lays them out.  It clearly articulates what the federal government is to be involved with and the Tenth Amendment clearly shows that if it is not enumerated, if these powers are not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, then they are reserved for the states or to the people.  And that goes right to the heart of a substantial number of these ‑‑ of these arguments.”

He went on to add that if states continue to sign these bills regulating gun manufacturers, they’ll be welcomed into the state of Texas.

“Mag pool I can assure you has already been contacted by the State of Texas inviting them to move their operation here, that they not only will be free to manufacture but they will be welcomed wholeheartedly and look forward to allowing those employees to keep more of what they work for so that they won’t be overtaxed as well as over-regulated in a state like Colorado,” he said.

Glenn added onto the Governors comment about encouraging companies and individuals to move to Texas, asking him to encourage that people be invited to Texas for the freedom, not just the jobs. He noted about progressives moved to Colorado and are changing that landscape. Glenn is afraid that the same thing will begin to happen in Texas.

“We’re recruiting people that truly believe in freedom,” Perry responded. “If they’re takers, if they want government to take care of them from cradle to the grave, they’re going to stay in California.  They’re going to stay in states with these rich programs that they take other people’s money and then redistribute it.  The people that are coming here are people who still believe in the basis for America, that the freedom from overtaxation and freedom from overregulation, freedom from over-litigation.”

Governor Perry added, “Colorado had, I will suggest to you, too many programs that lured too many people that want government taking care of them rather than believing in the free market system and allowing people the freedom to fail as well as the freedom to succeed.”

It’s safe to say Glenn is much happier to now have Rick Perry as the governor of his state than Gov. Cuomo.