Penn Jillette reveals which MSNBC host wants to sit down with Glenn

Penn Jillette is arguably one of the best guests Glenn has onto his show. The two are good friends and constantly debate over e-mail, even though they have wildly different opinions on a variety of topics. But their conversations always provide for an entertaining, intellectual and highly engaging debate. Tonight, Penn and Glenn talked about Penn’s optimism, the problem with tribalism and why MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell wants to sit down with Glenn.

In the clip below, Penn kicks off the conversation by talking about why he remains optimistic despite the fact that it feels like the government is encroaching on individual rights and liberty.

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Penn told Glenn that MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell, a friend of his, actually would like to sit down for a private conversation and discuss some places where they agree.

“[O'Donnell] said, you know, ‘I would love to sit down with Glenn Beck and talk privately.’ Penn said, ‘We have a lot in common.’ And he went on and on like that, then said, ‘but you know, with our jobs and where we are it will probably never happen.’”

Glenn didn’t agree that their respective jobs meant they couldn’t talk, and lamented the idea that people who work in media focus so much on their jobs or ratings rather than honest conversations.

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And in this third segment, Penn and Glenn debate tribalism:

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  • Anonymous

    Terrible that beck embraces this heathen. They’re both going to hell.

  • Anonymous

    I noticed that Penn wasn’t wearing his SUPER FOCUS spectacles.  I wonder why not?

  • Anonymous

    I understand where you’re coming from but stop…just stop it. If you think comments like that are helpful, clear, edifying, justified, etc. … You are wrong. Having said that, I disagree with Penn’s statement on there is no violence in video games, only an artistic depiction of violence is wronng. He said there’s a difference between being shot and seeing someone shoot you. That’s only if violence is only considered in the bodily sense. . But violence is real in video games In that the soul, morals and emotions are violenced.
    I’m sad also that Glenn appeared, in the name of nice guy and wanting to compromise and not offend his guest, appeared to be nothing but lukewarm as Penn. Remember, Christ said He’d rather vomit us out of His mouth if that’s our stand. In a word: saltless. Glenn, a man of passion and desire for truth, lost it here. Penn is a lost and mushy man characterized by selected snippets that make him popular with most. Christ did not have many friends, He was not mushy and His snippets bit and torques people in hopes He’d save them from a horrible eternity. Christ’s love was sacrificial. Penn’s “love” is just petting.

  • Pamela Peltonen

    Mr. Jillette seems like a very nice man. He appears to be very humble despite his fame and notoriety. While I do not know much about him, he seems like a good person.

  • Soulphoenix

    Glenn, this warning probably isn’t necessary, but don’t ever get sucked into ANY contact with Lawrence O’Donnell. The man is pure hatred personified, a big barrel of vile vitriol in human skin. He will never be interested in any sort of reasoned debate. Of all the greedy, jack-booted thugs in the Leftist state media, O’Donnell is probably the worst, even worse than Al Sharpton, Chris Matthews (barely), and the ridiculously-named Toure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-Dillon/1640259205 Josh Dillon

    If you’re not familiar with Penn, treat yourself to the P&T series “Bullshit.” A quick Youtube search is all you have to do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=697323235 Brooke JustBrooke

    Are there any facts supporting Penn Jillette’s claim about the closing of the homicide division in South Central L.A.?

  • Anonymous

    Glenn be careful you don’t sleep with Satan!!!  There are alot of Decievers out there!!!  No Mr. Nice Guy…..Penn,  you either stand for Good or Evil…..not luke warm…. and that is where you are Penn.

  • Draxx

     As a graphic/illustrative artist, I have made many different types/styles of artwork (whether it is professional or personal) that have Literally Affected People, some would cry, some would laugh, some would be disgusted.  I never really knew why certain things moved people besides that they can relate to an experience in their lives, and the subject matter of the artwork was in line with that past.  A few have told me why their reactions were what they were, but the majority I probably have never seen because I was not in the Gallery/Meeting when they saw it.  But, I do know that I have done a couple of personal pieces with the Intention of Moving Someone’s Soul With It…  Sometimes I was successful, others not quite so much.  I know that there is Propaganda Artwork that is out there to move peoples’ souls in certain directions, and they can be quite effective if done properly. (BTW – I Never have and probably never will do any propaganda artwork!  I know some people have stated that All Artwork is Propaganda, but they are not True Artist to know that they are absolutely wrong!).

    Video Games are a form of artwork for the makers of the game, it may not be perceived as such by others.  But, it can and will affect a person in some way, either you Enjoy Playing a Video Game or You Don’t (What are the underlying reasons?).  If a person delves too deeply into anything, they lose their Perspective on How Others Might Perceive the Same Thing…  Also as time progresses and someone keeps playing a Video Game day after day, they can lose perspective on what is Reality or Fantasy and the two get intermingled until they become one and the same!  My son is allowed to play only video games that my wife and I agree are reasonably safe to the his mental health (never games like Grand Theft Auto or Kill Everything Until Only You Remain Types).  I see the difference in him compared to his friends attitudes, whether it is about games or people he treats them with more respect!  His friends will bring games over when they spend the night and get upset when I say “You Cannot Play That In Our House… and when our son is at your house He Is Not Allowed to Play or Even Watch You Play Those Games!”.  Parents have made the comment to me, “It’s Just A Game! What’s the harm in them playing it?”, I explain my point of view to Deaf Ears & Minds.  It has even come down to not allowing my son at their house because they refuse to honor mine and my wife’s wishes…

  • http://twitter.com/Jakedempsey Jakedempsey

    Aaaaand this is why Obama is still in office… Thanks for being ignorant. 

  • ThorsteinVeblen2012

    If you are conceding that you can’t have a discussion with someone you are conceding that your views cannot be held up to the scrutiny of debate.

    It is cowardice.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    Ladies and gentleman liberal tolerance. 

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    I have to respectfully disagree with you. I play them and it has not eaten my soul or turn me into an evil person. I am a man of God. There are a few that I will refuse to play but to say that video games can shape normal people who are not crazy is not factually right.

  • Soulphoenix

    That’s funny. I agree with you in principle, but Lawrence O’Donnell screaming at the top of his lungs and not letting you get a word in edgewise does not qualify as a debate – sorry.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    I was an atheist like he was and like him but him being not sure on God is a big deal and means he is open to the idea. If it were not for a Christian friend of mine never giving up on me I maybe still there. I am a transform being through Christ now. You should be thankful because of his quest to find the truth of God because he is an atheist that wants to know the truth and to say there is no hope of him being in a saving relationship with and condemning Glenn for reaching out to an atheist is like spiting in the face of Jesus himself.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    I like Penn Jillette he is what I like to call an honest atheist who just wants the truth and can admit when he is wrong or wronged people. I might not agree with his atheism but I can respect him.

  • Anonymous

    Until Penn figures it out I will choose not to believe anything he say’s. All I see is him dancing around all thing that pertain to Christ and believers in Christ.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    Have you ever been an atheist? Do you know what it is like? What he said their might as well of been atheist blaspheme because saying that you don’t know if there is a God or not is blasphemous to an atheist ears. I am telling you he is slowly moving to God I pray that he does and you should to.

  • Anonymous

    I hope he comes to know and believe in Christ…Until then I will not believe in anything he say’s.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    Just pray for him that is the best we can do.

  • ThorsteinVeblen2012

    Bill O’Reilly behaves that way all the time.

    Screaming at the top of your lungs, shouting down your counterpart, hurling insults instead of making logical points and supporting them cutting off someone’s mike should lose any argument.You are saying O’Donnell would lose the debate because he would lack self control Bill O’Reilly doesn’t exhibit? Do you likewise condemn commentators on the right who demonstrate the same behavior? 

  • Soulphoenix

    Do you ASSUME that I don’t? I do NOT like Bill O’Reilly, and primarily for EXACTLY that reason. Look for an intellectual pushover elsewhere.

  • Anonymous

    terrible that you are so narrow minded.  your god is much more enlightened and condemns such blind hatred.

  • Anonymous

    Who said you could speak for anyone’s god?

  • Kerry

     He’s nice on here because Beck does have a lot of religious followers.  If you want to know what he really thinks, listen to his podcasts and such.  Penn is very much not moving towards belief in mythology.

  • Kerry

    You religious types crack me the hell up.

  • Kerry

     Who says you can judge others?  Oh wait, pretty sure  you book says not to do that.

  • Kerry

     As Ghandi said, not that he was a wonderful guy overall, I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians.

  • Kerry

     Great series!  Love it!

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    Maybe he is trying to sell himself to you guys.

  • greywolfrs

    There’s another guy who would like to meet Glenn and is probably a better choice. His name is Tim Thomas, former Goaltender for the former Stanley Cup Champion Boston Bruins, the guy who refused to go to the White House and meet Obamao. He is a registered Republican with Libertarian ideals. He has the Gadsden Snake with “Don’t Tread On Me” painted on the back of his mask.

    Nothing against Penn or his buddy, but Thomas seems to be a better choice and DOESN’T work for PMSNBC. Thomas has also stated that he would like to meet Glenn.

    The letter when he refused to meet Obamao:

    “I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People. This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government. Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL. This is the only public statement I will be making on this topic.”

    From another source:

    Thomas is a Republican and has stated that the person he would most like to have dinner with is conservative TV pundit Glenn Beck.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1067281852 Kevin McCabe

    Yeah sure Larry O’Donnl wants to talk to Glenn, it is probably the only thing that would help his ratings. Does anyone even watch MSNBC anymore?  The only time I hear about them anymore is when another network reports on some stupid thing one of their hosts says.  

  • Jaamoose

    I’m so disappointed that Penn gives Beck the time of day…

  • Jaamoose

    Yeah, sure – probably love Hannity though, right? 

  • Jaamoose

    Lawrence O’Donnell is a great American and champion of the people…

  • Brian Mardiney

    Having followed Penn for a while now, I can assure you that he is not, nor will he ever, move towards god. His atheism comes from a complete lack of objective evidence for god. He will only consider himself wrong if god can be measured and verified by science. And even then, he probably wouldn’t call whatever that is “god” (because at that point, it would be natural, not supernatural).

    You have never been an atheist like Penn is an atheist. You may have had a period of doubt or even anger at god, but you never truly stopped believing. It would be like saying that after years of realizing that Santa doesn’t exist, at the age of 25, you now once again believe in Santa. It simply doesn’t work that way.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    Yes I was you don’t know me so stop trying to pretend you do. I hated everything about Christianity and was even more extreme than Penn.

  • Brian Mardiney

    Anger at religion has nothing to do with believing in a god. Atheists don’t feel ANYTHING about god because god doesn’t exist. It would be like feeling anger towards Santa or the tooth fairy.

    I’m not saying I know you personally. I’m saying that people don’t go from a mentality of only believing things based on evidence to a mentality of taking things on faith. It would be like deciding to believe that 2+2=5. If you claim that you USED to believe 2+2=4 and then were convinced that 2+2=5, then you never really understood the math in the first place.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    What if I seen the proof? I know I can’t prove it to you because eye witness accounts me very little to a scientific mind but it was proof enough for me.

  • Brian Mardiney

    “Proof enough for me”. Statements like that exactly prove my point: you never really understood the “math” to begin with and thus, you were never really an atheist the way Penn is an atheist. He would never accept a solipsism as proof of anything. Even if he had a conversation with god for an hour, where god demonstrated a whole bunch of miracles, etc etc….if Penn was the only one that experienced that, he would assume he’s had a psychotic break sooner than he would accept it was proof of god. No one measured it, no one reproduced it, no one verified it.

    It’s fine, at this point, who cares? You are a theist now and you always have been (even if you repressed it for a time). It simply alters the narrative a little.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    Again you don’t know me. I think it you that got the problem friend. I think you can’t stand the fact that an atheist can convert. Sorry I know who I was back then you don’t. I know what I experienced you don’t. I am the only one that can say how I felt what I believed back then and what changed me. Again sir you are not me and there for you have no clue what I am even talking about. I find these blanket statements to be closed minded and to me it does not matter who it comes from left right Christian atheist is just plain wrong. Just because your theory pans out for a few does not mean it is the whole lot of us converts are that way and want to see better from someone who appears to be not bigoted. Some of my brother and sisters in Christ think all of you atheist are evil bigots that want to take our God away from us should I join them in the close minded ways?

  • Brian Mardiney

    I’m just correcting your logic, you and people like you don’t bother me in the slightest. In fact, your lack of a substantive counter to the logic of my argument simply reinforces that I’m right in my appraisal, which if I feel any emotion, it’s satisfaction. You don’t really have a valid counter to that logic so you devolve into “You don’t know me!”, which is what teenagers say when their parents point out flaws in their mindset.

    If it makes you feel like you’ve “been through it” by claiming you were once an atheist, go for it. But apart from wowing your theist friends, no actual atheists really buy it. But then again, you probably don’t (and shouldn’t) care what we think. Carry on.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    No it does why else would you be attacking me and what I said about you not knowing me is a valid argument one that you will not face because it means you have relook at your biased theory on us converted. You know sticking your fingers in your ears screaming LA LA LA LA I AM NOT LISTENING! Is very childish of you.

  • Brian Mardiney

    I was engaging with you because I saw an error in your logic. You think people always do things for emotional reasons? I talked to you because A) there was a slim chance you might actually learn something and B) there was a chance I would find it intellectually stimulating. Unfortunately, neither turned out to be the case, so that’s why I said “Carry on”. Meaning, I have nothing more to gain here.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    Where did I say it had anything to do with emotion? You just did it again and you still can’t see past your own bigotry.

  • Brian Mardiney

    You said I was motivated to talk to you because your conversion “bothered me”. It doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

    And just so you know, the first person to sling “racist” or “bigot” around is usually standing on the intellectually inferior ground. Might want to be careful where you whip that around.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    And it is the bigot that can’t see that they are one.

  • Brian Mardiney

    Indeed. Well I think that’s a great place to stop. I’ve tried to explain a difference between two types of “atheism” and you’ve called me a bigot.

  • http://TheConservativePush.webs.com/ SoThere

    [O'Donnell] said, you know, ‘I would love to sit down with Glenn Beck and talk privately.’ Penn said, ‘We have a lot in common.’ And he went on and on like that, then said, ‘but you know, with our jobs and where we are it will probably never happen.’”
    So Lawrence O’Donnell is a closet Beck lover. Who would ever have guessed?

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    “Glenn didn’t agree that their respective jobs meant they couldn’t talk, and lamented the idea that people who work in media focus so much on their jobs or ratings rather than honest conversations.”

    Here’s a taste of Glenn Beck’s honesty.