Progressive MSNBC host doubles down, admits they’re against individual liberty

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Well, Melissa Harris-Perry decided to double down on her comments claiming that American’s needed to break away from the idea that kids belong to the family and need to embrace a collective attitude towards children. Glenn played the latest audio on radio this morning along with another cable news host who is showing the true colors of the progressives.

Harris-Perry said, “I can see that some people are generally upset about what I actually said, especially this phrase: We have to break through our private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families. So let me just say that this, I stand by that statement.  Families have first and primary responsibility for their children.  The private sphere of our homes and families deserves a great deference in policy and in practice only in the most extreme circumstances of violence or deprivation should institutions remove children from families.  But I believe our children are not our private property.  They are not just extensions of ourselves.  They are independent individual beings.  Allow me to quote the poet Khalil Gibran: ‘Our children are not your children.  They are the sons and daughters of life’s longing for itself.  They come through you but not from you.  And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you.’”

She continued, “Listen, this is an existential argument. People can disagree and one which has been more influential in poetry than in policy. And honestly remote philosophical debate rarely drives relentless news cycles. Unless, unless it is the core philosophical issue of our entire history, the balance between individual rights and collective responsibilities. And that is my bet about what is happening. This isn’t about me wanting to take your kids. And this isn’t even about whether children are property. This is about whether we as a society expressing our collective will through our public institutions, including our government, have a right to impinge on individual freedoms in order to advance a common good.”

Glenn told audiences not to dismiss this as a clever apology, but to recognize that she is doubling down on her radical comments.

“Don’t dismiss this as a clever way to apologize.  Don’t dismiss this as a clever way to get out of what she said.  She is telling you exactly what she believes.  ’I believe that the family belongs to the collective.’”

He explained that Harris-Perry only claimed that in “extreme” cases would government interfere, yet for months conservative values and view points have been portrayed as extreme.

“Remember, you’re a TEA Party member, you’re an extremist; you believe in the Second Amendment, you’re an extremist; you believe in the Bible, you’re an extremist; you’re a Christian, you’re extremist.  Unless you redefine the word “extremist,” which they already are doing.  And then it’s only in the cases of extremism that we would ever want to break up those families.  As long as you teach them exactly what’s good for the collective, as long as you teach them everything that those of us who have power in the collective, we’re not going to break you up.  Why?  You’re doing our job for us.  You’re teaching them that they ‑‑ this is the collective, that they don’t have really any rights, that they don’t have anything given from God, that they have all of these things given to them by the government.  Why should we break that little system up?  Only in the case if they’re with some extremists.”

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    The Progressives and Socialist Democrats know the end game is at hand, and thus have no more fear of coming out into the open.

    The Collective – the ultimate evil that can be inflicted upon America, where we have had too many indoctrinated into the belief that Socialism/Communism is ‘better than freedom and better than a Republic and Capitalism.”

    Madness to the core. 

    God help us if we fail to halt their insanity in the near future. 

  • Alan

    where can i buy gold? lol lol lol

  • Alan

    there is no god, so you are finished!!

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Believe what you will, I know the truth of the Almighty. May you see it as well while time remains.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    We are in the end game now: the Progressives and Democratic Socialists are on the move and fear nothing can stop them. Now Obama has his event to crack down on his list of ‘enemies of the state.’

  • Alan

    you are just an ignorant numb nuts bible thumper and your world is falling apart because it is based on total bs.  good riddance to you morons! doing things collectively is completely American–you sound like an Randian ignoramous…tell that to your god almighty and you can borth stfu…lol lol

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Peace be unto you then, may you gain the truth while time remains for you. 

  • Anonymous

    Lol. Such liars. That’s not what the host said. She didnt say anything about taking away parental rights. She made it clear that the parents are responsible.
    But no one is an island, and everyone is part of society, and we’re all responsible for making the country great, not just making ourselves rich at the expense of others. Together, we thrive. Beck’s politics of division hurts us all.
    What she said is no different than bush talking about a thousand points of light. Your blind hatred of “the left” makes you stupid and unamerican.

  • Anonymous

    Her comments have nothing to do with taking kids from families. Just that communities influence development of kids as well as parents. Teachers, pastors, etc. They all have an influence on children. That’s what she’s talking about.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you should leave while you still can. Lol. The crazy paranoia always cracks me up.

  • Anonymous

    Like another 2000 years or more? Don’t hold your breath.

  • Anonymous

    my kids are mine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE I REPEAT NO ONE CAN OR WILL EVER HAVE THEM THEY WILL NEVER BE  PART OF A COLLECTIVE AND AS FOR………….. COMMON CORE……………..KISS MY ASS …………HOME SCHOOL IT IS FOR MINE NEXT YEAR AND IM TRYING TO TALK AS MANY FRIENDS AS I CAN INTO DOING THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND YES I DO WONDER EVERY DAY ( IS THIS STILL AMERICA WE ARE LIVING IN ?) WHAT IS GOING ON??????????????? MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WHO FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM IN NOT 1 WAR BUT 2  IS ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/ann.reed.568 Ann Reed

    With the found note in the Florida boy’s backpack – joined with Melissa’s comments():
    “I (We) am willing to give up some of my Constitutional Rights (Individual Rights) in order to be safer and more secure (to advance the Common Good)”  The argument sounds fine if the common good is just and righteous, but there is no way to ensure that the Governments will will always be just and righteous.

  • Pamela Peltonen

    You are not alone snowleopard.

  • http://twitter.com/RandieDonoff Randie Donoff

    up to I saw the paycheck for $4805, I be certain …that…my best friend woz like they say really receiving money in there spare time at their laptop.. there friends cousin has done this for less than and a short time ago repaid the morgage on there home and got Alfa Romeo. read more at,…………. Zoo80.ℂom

  • Anonymous

    Only a fool or a liar says “there is no god”. I’d ask which you are but a fool wouldn’t know and a liar wouldn’t tell the truth so there is no point. God grant you a change of heart before your time is up for tomorrow is promised to no man.

  • Alan

    talking to any snakes lately?

  • Anonymous

    Our founders recognized and understood that the preservation of individual rights was critical, and talk of “collective” responsibility at the expense of individual rights goes against our constitution and the bill of rights. Of course, no person is the property of any other person, but neither is that person the property of the so-called “collective.” Parents are charged with raising their children as they see fit and with their own beliefs and values whether they be bible-thumpers or atheists. No “collective” can or should be given that responsibility. Our liberty and freedom depend on our individual God-given rights, not government-given or “collective”-given rights (or lack thereof). 

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone else wonder who determines the “common good”?
    This much is ture however, kids are not the property of their parents – the fruit of the womb is the LORD’s; the earth is the LORD’s and the fullness thereof. But children are the responsibilty of the parents to whom they are given and the parents have the responsibility to teach them the way in which they should walk. The state only has a responsibility when the individual breaks the laws that govern the community and the ascribed punishement must be imposed.
    What we are seeing here is the willingness of some in the community to turn their backs on the path of righteousness and their efforts to assert control over the children to pervert their education so they will serve the state instead of serving the LORD.

  • Anonymous

    just you

  • Washington76

    Terrorist Bill Ayers: From Bombs to Obama  April 3, 2013 Bosch Fawstin http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3003603/posts

  • Anonymous

    Ah, yes, do I detect liberal arguments?  Or should I say non-arguments?  Let’s stop attacking the message or the messenger instead of, as liberals almost always do (atheist or not).  Let’s let this be a discussion about whether we are going to allow our children be educated and controlled by a state that does not understand what they are doing.  Most politicians aren’t on either side, and are following the pressure of the powerful lobbies because they get big dollars (huan sp?, soon?) from corporations.  If they supported freedom, they would be on the right side of every issue and this country would flourish once again.  Instead, they continue to implement liberal ideas incrementally, and, not coincidentally, our country’s standing in the world continues to fall incrementally.  (Insulting thought about liberals/progressives deleted to keep the discussion where it belongs.)

    You don’t need to appeal to God to understand that collectivism is evil, in a ‘your life is only worth what the state says it is’ way.  All that ‘celebrate diversity’ and ‘we need to respect others’ disappears as the collective gains power.

    And sister, don’t cast your pearls before swine, lest they turn and rend you.  Ooops, it already happened.  (Couldn’t resist.)

  • Alan

    but i’m real, moron.

  • Anonymous

    Oh! I’d hate to be you.   I guess we could all pray for you before it’s to late!

  • http://communisvita.wordpress.com/ Ann

    Harris_Perry’s ideas are from the pit of Hell.

  • Draxx

     I would like to know what she means by Extreme Cases, and who gets to decide extreme when it should be in a court of law by their PEERS, NOT Justices Only…

  • Alan

    does god talk to you, too? do you know what schizophrenia is?

  • tobias

     You (and knowitlittle) just confirmed what most of us that (sadly enough) have to read your “comments” already know, you are THE snake, and please do not try to hide behind large words, like calling or insinuating people are mentally ill. You did not even take the time to (14 minutes) listen to the conversation,  but I’ll make it easier for you just listen to the last 4 minutes, ( if it does not stress your brain too much )

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.boswell Tony Boswell

    This is about freedom or communism…period.

  • Anonymous

    We are most totally doomed.  Read the Bible – Revelation tells our future and what will be happening before our world comes to an end.  We are on the down hill now.  Other than rounding up the ones who don’t go along will be executed.  Kinda like the Christians who were killed for their religious beliefs.  It is coming if you don’t go along with them.  Sad, Sad, Sad – just try to figure out where you are going.  God is GREAT!!!

  • greywolfrs

    Your blind stupidity makes you unAmerican. You are the biggest moron in the country.

  • greywolfrs

    Your ignorance knows no bounds.

  • greywolfrs

    You left wingers are beyond ignorant.

  • http://www.facebook.com/edwards.jennie Jennifer Smith Edwards

    So grateful Glenn has chose to never lose his voice. Excellent commentary on this subject.
    All the best Glenn

  • greywolfrs

    Or maybe we should just get rid of morons like you.

  • Anonymous

     “Listen, this is an existential argument. People can disagree and one which has been more influential in poetry than in policy. And honestly remote philosophical debate rarely drives relentless news cycles. Unless, unless it is the core philosophical issue of our entire history, the balance between individual rights and collective responsibilities. And that is my bet about what is happening. This isn’t about me wanting to take your kids. And this isn’t even about whether children are property. This is about whether we as a society expressing our collective will through our public institutions, including our government, have a right to impinge on individual freedoms in order to advance a common good.”

    WHAT THE HELL IS THIS WOMAN TALKING ABOUT? As my sainted mother used to say: “What are they teaching you at that school you go to?” If this woman would spend a little more time in realville, we’d all be a little better off! Note that she uses big words to cover up her colossal ignorance.

  • tobias

     @  Knowitlittle can you please explain why all the people in behind the ” Iron Curtain ” gladly accepted the Free Word Capitalistic system in the late 1980′s,90′s and now (as an example some of the richest Russians now own USA Baseball, Football teams etc). and are actually telling us here in the western world to stop the socialistic ( barbaric) system that nearly destroyed them in the 30′s, 40′s, 50′s, 60′s and 70′s? They even explain that the second amendment is the strongest part of the USA system . Go figure!!! Ex-communists telling US here in the USA we are are under attack by Communists?

  • vieteravet

    You’re right, you’re a real MORON!

  • Alan

    You really are so ignorant it is a waste of cyberspace…go to a tractor pull…

  • Alan

    Talking to snakes today, my little religious faith freak?

  • Alan

    And what are they telling you? That your god is the bestest? Lol lol lol

  • vieteravet

    Thanks for proving my point. 

  • Anonymous

    Glenn said it goes back beyond three hundred years, to the beginning. Right. In Revelation Lucifer’s plan was to have EVERYONE (the collective?) come back, and “…not one will be lost!”  (Collective salvation?)  But what would have to be given up? Free will! Free agency — INDIVIDUAL agency. All will comply, and all will come back, and be saved. “This is such a great plan, give me thine honor!” Lucifer said.

    He said it then, and being cast out, with a third of the host of heaven that went along with him, and cast to Earth where we are now battling against him, is still trying to impose that same ideology upon us all.

    Do we exercise our INDIVIDUAL free agency or go along with the COLLECTIVE ideology?

    Laus Deo

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    i used to be a lot of fun — when i was young and stupid.  something happens when you get older (at least it should happen) YOU GET WISER; you see how your government works and how the world works, etc. and sometimes we are not as much fun as we used to be.  i don’t care that i’ve become more serious — i wish more people did.

    back when maher did “politically incorrect” he had on arsenio hall.  when hall answered a question in the negative it caught maher by surprise expecting he would have a partner taking his side and then these words slipped out of his mouth:  ”i thought you were my friend.”  arsenio grunted and said something to the effect that he was not going to agree w/something he was so adamantly opposed to.  so, even maher had his need for affirmation in those days.  glenn says he doesn’t think maher cares who he offends — oh i think he cares.  it’s just that now he has a larger louder chorus singing his sings right along w/him and he’s even more brazen.

  • Anonymous

    Sad…no one will miss your childish wit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4HAW7OERGSC7VZM72V7IGDJ3B4 Sharmane

    She spews psychobabble and ridiculous nonsense.

  • Shane

     Yes, left wingers believe that the State always comes before the individual’s rights.

  • Shane

     I have no problem with most atheists and agnostics, but those who are angry and vicious like you clearly are mentally disturbed and filled with hatred. Perhaps you are envious because we have faith in God.

  • Alan

    I only have hatred for bigots like you bible thumpers who oppress others with religious dogma. You are obviously confused. Perhaps u should refrain from drinking out of your colostomy bag?

  • Alan
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  • Guest

    What’s “radical” about “It takes a village to raise a child?”

    Beck doubles down on his absurd, ignorant and reactionary nonsense all the time, and people — recognizing that Beck has no education and no credibility to discuss cleaning up dog poop, much less politics or religion — IGNORE HIS DUMB CLAIMS.

    Don’t forget that Beck claimed to be a “radical revolutionary.” Of course, that’s just more ignorance from this propagandist. He is actually a reactionary regressive leading the gullible and ignorant backwards toward the 19th Century.

  • Guest

    Watch Fox; they keep their words dumbed down for the ignorant and stupid reactionaries.

  • greywolfrs

    WOW! Did you just make an assumption? You do realize that assumption is the mother of ALL fuck-ups, then again, you are a moron, so probably not.

  • Alan

    religious freaks are the only ones I know of who talk to snakes; enlighten me please, moron?

  • greywolfrs

    How does me calling you a moron mean I am anything? You can’t be enlightened, you are too dumb to see a basic concept. Dunce.

  • greywolfrs

    Watch PMSNBC, they distort and lie to keep the useful idiots in line, there you are, vicki tiffany.

  • greywolfrs

    You really should look up the term “bigot,” then look in the mirror, dunce. What’s the matter, you sound mad, did you not get your daily dose from Obamao’s blue-veined yogurt dispenser?

  • Anonymous

    Reading greywolfrs, you have to laugh at someone who ignores the rules of grammar while expressing ignorant views and calling others “idiots.” 

    If you didn’t know why Glenn Beck’s followers come across like aliens, it’s because they aren’t the most articulate, educated or informed citizens.

    If you just look at this person’s comment history, you’ll read the words of a pissed off, arrogant reactionary clinging to a reality that’s fading faster than the setting sun.

  • greywolfrs

    Yeah, you are the most articulate, informed and educated amoung us. Not really, but one can tell themselves lies and believe them.

    Read my comments and believe you have the ability to pyschoanalyze someone from posts in a forum. You are another left wing hack that thinks they know something, when you know nothing.

    What reality is fading fast? You morons actually think you have gained something, what a fool.

    P.S. See the “reply” button, it is there for reason or continue to be the coward, vicki tiffany.

  • Alan

    Thx for the response.. You won me 100 dollars…lol

  • Alan

    Of course I’m a bigot, just like your bible says, idiot..I,hate your intolerance.. All conservatives do is hate…whether Irish, Italians, or Chinese or today with gays, Latinos and Muslims…you all are thoroughly disgusting

  • Anonymous

    “amoung us”?

  • Anonymous

    since when do you listen to communists?

  • Anonymous

    He’s not the sharpest tool in the shed, but he’s definitely a tool!

  • barak barak

    Today in America, communists are not even afraid to preach their word at the television.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sheri.richardsfisher Sheri Richards Fisher

    What a bully you are being.  Shame on you!  The science behind there being a Creator is so overwhelming that it is you who are an “ignorant, numb-nuts”…but we love you anyway.  You’ve swallowed every bit of the atheist junk the public school taught you like a good boy and it’s YOUR world that is falling apart not ours.  They teach one theory that is fraught with errors and misinformation and call it “fact.”  Because to call it anything else…well, they just can’t wrap their tiny brains around the possibility that we were created for a purpose.  BTW, the body is sooo complex, there’s no way it was accidental.  You’ll never get life from lifelessness.  To see just how stupid Evolutionists are just watch ‘Expelled-No Intelligence Required’ to see what it would take for the human body to burst into existence.  Coming from scientists that refused to let their bias’ muddy the facts.  How many proteins does it take to create life?  Listen to Dr. Walter Bradley (interviewed for the movie) who says “there’d have to be a minimum of about 250 proteins to provide for minimal life function.”  And just before him you hear from Michael Ruse, Darwinian, who says “one popular theory is that molecules “piggy-backed” on crystals.”  He says that is more likely than intelligent design.  Is that all you got?  Is that what you’re banking on for your eternity?  I hope not.  God has provided us all w/the truth.  Jesus said, “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. Revelation 3:20.  You will not be forced to believe, Alan.  It is a choice, freely offered, freely given.  I hope you will investigate for yourself before you pass judgement on others.  We think it is you and folks like you that need a wake-up call.  You brave enough to take the challenge?

  • Alan

    You have know idea what science is to say something so completely ignorant. We’re you home schooled is a meth lab , moron? It’s bible coprophagic religious freaks like you who are destroying the planet. Now stfu and shoot yourself.

  • Guest

    Beck seems to think that M H-P should back down, like all good n#$$ers do, right Glenn?

    WRONG; this sister is nobody’s bitch! 

    Fact is, she’s not saying anything radical here. It takes a village to raise a child.

    Glenn Beck, on the other hand, admitted to being a “radical revolutionary.”  His words, not mine.

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, look up the term “bigot,” then look in a mirror. You are a complete idiot.

  • greywolfrs

    Yeah, one mis-spelled word means both of you are infinitely more educated, informed and articulate. Moron.

    To vicki tiffany:
    I am sure you would never say anything like that to my face, you coward.

  • greywolfrs

    So, you didn’t bother to actually answer my question, just make another comment about winning money? You better make as bets as you can, your entitlements will gone soon enough.

  • Alan

    because of bigoted ignorant assholes like you who hate everybody– who isn’t a cracker at a tractor pull or auditioning for a part in Deliverance -and I’m proud of it; you disgusting POS should all jump off a cliff–short of that don’t worry–you are all dying out—good riddance my little coprophagic homunculus coward…

  • Anonymous

    Why should we think they are NOT going to spew out the
    non dem extreme liberal agenda? I really thought everyone knew this. So who
    watches the filth anyway? Sick, really sick commentary. As they prove over and
    over again how utterly stupid they are.

  • Guest

    Beck doubles down on his reactionary, 19th Century ideals day after day. Why shouldn’t Melissa Harris-Perry double down on her 21st Century ideal (it takes a village to raise a child)? Most people agree with M H-P; very, very few people agree with Glenn Beck about anything!

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, you really need to look up the definition of a “bigot,” then look in a mirror. I find idiots, like you, to be laughable. Everyone who is Conservative is old or a redneck. Yet you claim to know what a bigot is and you are not one. You claim Conservatives are racist, as you use a racist name. You are a complete fucking fool and proof there needs to be more chlorine in the gene pool.

  • Alan

    that’s what all you racist scum sucking crackers say when confronted with your outrageous bigotry; you have way too much incest in your family, punk!

  • greywolfrs

    That all you have? You are a weak little kid.

  • Alan

    hey wolfie, you baggers are all dying out in every part of the country that people have a choice to live in. Your confederacy is finished; seeings how you hate government, try Somalia! lol lol

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, where exactly did I say I was part of the Tea Party? Oh, that’s right, I didn’t. You just make assumptions and think you are correct. By the way, putting lol at the end of your stupid comment does not make it funny, stupid little kid.

    Please, do the country a favor and get your whole head in front of the shotgun, dunce.

  • Alan

    after you wolfie, the eponymous bagger moron; conservatives are all secret baggers and cowards–it’s pretty clear if you weren’t so afraid of everything you wouldn’t be a conservative, right? I guess you missed the 60′s and 70′s.. never got laid, huh? Is that why you are such an angry POS? lol
    now my coprophagic homunculus, stfu. Your trailer trash home needs some plumbing work–suck it out!

  • greywolfrs

    Your ignorance knows no bounds, stupid little kid.

  • Alan

    the stupid little boy is you–one with zero life experience, still stuck in Ayn Rand bs…If you want to get high, stop drinking from your colostomy bag, little bagger; just think, one day you will grow up, hate government and move to Somalia–where nut cases like you should move! lol lol

  • Alan

    Poor wing nut bagger. Sorry u were so hated as a child- but undoubtedly you are a veritable punk who should have been aborted in the first place. I think we can all agree on that. You are natures way of mutating out of the gene pool. Little boy tantrums wolfie.