Governement invites Imam on Seal Team 6 funeral

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The Obama administration shunned Ted Nugent from attending a SEAL’s funeral (against family wishes) but when SEAL Team 6 members were laid to rest after a devastating helicopter crash there was a curious guest: an imam. Who invited him? And did he damn the souls of the fallen SEALS? Glenn has the story in the clip above.

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    We see here one more occasion in which the House of Obama is shown to be of absolute darkness; may the entire truth come out in all matters for they stand in judgement before God.

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    The treachery of the administration continues to grow by the hour. 
    There is no limit, no heights or depths or breadths that they will not go to in ensuring our nation and the heroes who protect it in the armed forces are dishonored and discredited at every turn.

  • Anonymous

    one basic problem here, to some muslims infidel is anyone who isn’t muslim.  but to the vast majority and what is taught in islam is that infidels are people who are not people of the book.  People of the book are muslims, christians and jews.  So if the soldier being buried was a hindu or something else then you have a problem, otherwise not really a big deal
    Actually there are two problems, Moses is one of the most revered prophets in Islam. he’s the one who suggested to Muhammad, when he made the night ride to heaven and met Jesus etc, that he ask God to only have to pray five times a day.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    But something tells me he is not of the majority. Not even my Pastor would say this stuff in a funeral of an unbeliever. It is not right in this setting no matter what faith it is.

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    This is sick pure sick. 

  • http://youtu.be/0iRCvDwF26Q Sam Fisher

    This was done because of political correctness. The government doesn’t care about offending Christians because we don’t speak up. I am sick of this B.S. It is time to stand up for God.

  • http://TheConservativePush.webs.com/ SoThere

    Typical of the Obama administration to do these things.  Al Qaeda is defeated, they are on the run and Obama killed Bin Laden.  That’s the leftist talking points and his cult members follow blindly as they sip on the Kool Aid.

  • Anonymous

     my main point i guess is that it was weird, stupid, and at least somewhat disrespectful.  However, it seems the majority of the outrage Glenn has is based on a translation of a prayer the imam said and his factual inaccurate interpretation of that prayer to make it sound like something anyone with marginal knowledge of islam knows it isn’t.

  • Anonymous

    This had no place at a Seal Team service! Thank God that his prayer holds no favor with God!…
    The government insulted the memory of these brave warriors just as the government is allowing the insult of a mosque at ground zero is an insult to the memory of those murdered by muslims on 9/11 .
    .
    The imam can pray what ever he wishes he is right in only one respect As a Christian I know that Jesus is the Son of God and not a profi,t I know he is my Savior I know that we as Christians are not equal to the believers of allah I thank GOD  that we are not equal & we shall rise above them in every aspect!  

  • Anonymous

    Sorry the Torah of the Jewish faith and the Bible of the Christian faith have nothing to do with the book of allah, and the title “the People of the Book” islam stole from the Jewish people DO NOT try to say “we’re all the same” because we are NOT 

  • Anonymous

    Just the idea of inviting an imam to this funeral is sickening. His prayer shows NO repect for the fallen SEALS. obama is laughing in America’s face and nobody will do anything about it. Shame on Americans!

  • Lilu Kanine

    Well translate it for us.

  • Anonymous

    and the jews think jesus was just a nice guy.
    My point here is that Glenn’s interpretation of the prayer is clearly factual incorrect.  Islam does not consider Jews or Christians to be infidels, they don’t think they are the same but they do think that they are part of the same family, worshiping the same God through different prophets.  Muhammad is kind of a Joseph Smith type guy.  The message from each prophet has been the same but over time it has been corrupted so God picked a new prophet (Muhammad, Joseph Smith really just about any prophet it history has used this as the reason for the prophesizing) to set the record straight.
    So in short with a knowledge of Islam it is clear that the prayer was not malicious in any way shape or form.  The fact that it happened was weird, stupid, and at least somewhat disrespectful on the part of the government.

  • Lilu Kanine

    By all means translate it for us. Waiting 3…..2…..1..

  • Anonymous

     the problem isn’t in the translation, or if it was i wouldn’t know since i can’t speak or read arabic, the problem is in the interpretation and assigning meanings to infidel that are not accurate and making false statements about Islam’s thoughts on the God of Abraham and their thoughts on Moses.

  • Anonymous

    5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians
    for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to
    each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them.
    Verily God guideth not a people unjust..
    .
     5:72-73: They do blaspheme who say: “God is Christ the son of Mary.” But said Christ: “O
    Children of Israel! worship God, my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever joins other
    gods with God, – God will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode.
    There will for the wrongdoers be no one to help. They do blaspheme who say:
    God is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god
    except One God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a
    grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among
    them..
    .
     Hadith 1:13– “I have been ordered by Allah to
    fight with people till they bear testimony to the fact that there is no
    God but Allah.
    .
    It’s pretty clear what the koran says……

  • Anonymous

     5:51- revealed to Muhammad after a group of jews and christians broke a treaty, the constitution of Medina, and betrayed muhammad and the muslims to the pagan Quaresh (and I know I messed up that spelling bad) tribe that ruled Mecca and was trying to kill Muhammad.  Given the context of general muslim thought that’s really referring to a specific group of jews and christians.
    5:72-73, pretty much every religion says everyone else is wrong but us and God will get them for that at some point.
    If you include from 5: 69 on then you see more context and it falls in line with the whole repent and except our God as your God, we really hope you do.  Not unlike christianity.  74 says “So will they not repent to Allah and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”Shirk is a big deal in islam, the oneness of God is supremely important to them.  One of the things they think christians got wrong is the idea that Jesus was the son of God and the whole trinity thing which they think distracts from the oneness of God and is dangerously close to paganism.  That’s why they don’t draw Muhammad, prevents the worship and idolization of a person.In any religious text specific lines can be taken out of context and be used to make the religion look horrible and violent.  Certainly the old testament is riddled with the most violent and horribly hateful stuff that you could find in any religion, but that stuff does not guide jews today.

  • crazy betty

    the good news is the evil imam has no power to damn anybody… if those seals belonged to Jesus Christ than Greater is He that is in them than he that is in the world.

  • Anonymous

    This is the same religion that believes that the devils in a hole waiting for release it is time for them to stop listening to fairy tales and realize they themselves are helping the devil do his work right now everyday !
    And I suppose that this will cause some non-terrorist act just like that so called video right and Christian’s always change there legal name after we except CHRIST i’m know longer Allen now I’M   BARRY !!

  • Sam Fox

    Imam schemmam. He can’t damn any thing. He has no authority from Elohim to send any one any where unless he hails a cab. He can pray, sing & dance…he has no power from Nature’s God. If he did, the Imam would telling us about how great Jesus is.
     
    Damning to hell is reserved for God & Him alone. Even Christians who are indwelt by the Holy Spirit are prohibited in that regard. It’s for sure that no Muslim has the Holy Spirit of the Great I AM in his life, unless Father sends Him to convict them of their sin & cause them to repent & call on the name of Yeshua Messiah.

    SamFox

  • Anonymous

    It makes me sick….an Imam at the Seals Funeral?  I am sure not ONE of the Seals was a Muslim.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004531723269 Tr Hathcock

     It’s beyond political correctness. NO ONE would have ever thought to do that.

  • Anonymous

     also that Hadith 1:13 thing translated into english is there is no God but God.  Allah is just the arabic word for God and they use it in all languages for the same reason they always read the qur’an in arabic.  Arabic is the language God used to speak through Muhammad, keeping it in arabic avoids getting any meaning lost in translation.

  • Anonymous

    I’m still not able to view any of your video clips here Glenn.  WTF? 

    Talk about a spit-in-the-eye!  That’s like inviting the person who’s getting married’s in-laws to their wedding who’s ex took them to the cleaners for everything they have! 

    An ultimate act of disrespect for someone who bravely gave their life for this Country!  Whoever invited the imam was a real socialist pig!!! 

    Can’t the family have any peace at their own loved-one’s funeral?

  • Anonymous

    Glenn, please present this on Blaze TV. I have watched most of the 3 hour+ news conference from another source and if you tie it all the way to the Benghazi, the smoke is never more than a millimeter from the proverbial gun!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jalina-Susan-Stutte/1064345572 Jalina Susan Stutte

    We need to Stand Up and demand that Obama stop shoving his muslim crap down our throats! This is disgraceful and the families of the soldiers should speak out and let the communists know that this will not be tolerated. If they keep poking us they will feel our Christian strength!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jalina-Susan-Stutte/1064345572 Jalina Susan Stutte

    Obama and his followers are pure EVIL. God always wins, he is watching, and he is not amused!

  • http://www.facebook.com/kheavrin Kenneth Heavrin

    The obvious question that I haven’t seen asked: Was ANYONE killed in the crash Islamic? If not, then this is OUTRAGEOUS! If so, the translation made little sense to me one way or another. 

  • mdkrause

    I would have demanded right there  his islam ass get thrown out.   And if that ment not have a military funeral so be it.   There is only one God here and it doesn’t start with the curse called allah.
    I can’t imagine a muslim having a prayer over one of my family members. No way in hell Obama no way

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  • Anonymous

     allah is the arabic word of God.  Arab christians call God allah.

  • mdkrause

    Arab Christians call God allah 
    HAHAHAHAHLOLOLOLOLOLHAHAHAHA

    You have no clue,  

    Our God doesn’t start with allah nor does any and I mean ANY Christian no matter what they are, European, Asian, Arabic, Hebrew Christian.  allah is not our God.   And we do not call our God allah.  Politically un correct our God is Jesus.  not allah.   We do not pray to allah and then say well we ment Jesus.
    How stupid are some of you people.
    I guess this is how obama got into office.

  • Cindy Keller
  • Cindy Keller

    Disgusting!! We must call & insist congress investigates this!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtJrJ40Cio&feature=player_embedded#! 

  • Anonymous

    Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same God, that is why they are called the Abrahamic religions. Christianity and Islam came from Judaism and Allah is Arabic for God, and yes Arab Christians refer to God as Allah because that is the word for God in their language but it is the same God as the Jews and Christians. By the way God have many names, some call him Jehovah, the Jews call him Yahweh or Adonai, some call him Jah and etc. But all these names are referring to the same God the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

  • Mike Nelson

    I have not heard this before.  By what name do Arab Christians call Jesus?

    I have heard that Allah is not begotten, so I’m genuinely curious as to this apparent contradiction.

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    this thing — that this “prayer” was forced upon these families — is nauseating.

    this is (all of it) planned out by this thug admin.

  • Anonymous

    First of all I find it hard to believe that the military would put so many seals on one copter and fly together, and then who would have know what helicopter they were on. I believe they were set up to be killed.    The other six that were killed I believe were Afgans.  I believe that the ones that were Christians have no worry, the Lord will take care of the ones that were killed.  Obama is pushing the muslims and all the terror that goes along with it.  We have to get him out of office and try to get our great nation on the road back to where we need to be.

  • Anonymous

    Why does Obama think we want this?  Our country is not muslim and why he is trying to change us is amazing.  Who gave him the authority to invite a person like that?

  • Anonymous

    They should have buried them privately. If the military is not going to respect the wishes of the families, it should be take out of the equation.

  • Anonymous

    I would like to see a family member speak of this.

  • Anonymous

    “our God is Jesus”   How stupid are you ?

  • Anonymous

    Jesus works differently b/c Jesus is a name. God is more straight up noun in the language sense. Sort of like in German God is Gott. More similar b/c our langauges have closer roots than english and Arabic but its still different.
    Now there are some arguments about Allah having pagan origins, but all monotheistic traditions developed out of multi-God faiths. When Abraham was doing his thing God, yaweh or however its done, was considered to be one of many before Abraham, depending on your beliefs impacts the details but what matters is that it shows the transition to monotheism and instead of coming up with a new word or name just reusing an old one. Not to dissimilar to how we chose the dates of most christian holidays to align with previous pagan ones.

    No arguing their belief system is different and how they see God is also a bit different. To them the trinity is almost polytheistic and there are some other more technical traditions that are different. But Islam comes from the same origins and basic tradition. In his own time a number of christian monks after meeting and speaking with Muhammad thought he was a Christian prophet sent from God.
    Not sure I fully follow your question on begotten, I confess my knowledge of theological terms is limited, but in terms of Jesus they see him as a really cool prophet who had the same message as Muhammad but it was warped over time. Its why they pray and do everything in the original arabic, to prevent any of the meaning in God’s revelations from being lost in translation (which is easy to do when old arabic didn’t write out vowels and many words had up to twenty different meanings depending on the context).

  • Anonymous

    so do german christians not worship God when they pray to Gott?

  • Anonymous

    Hey Muslems,,,Obama killed Bin Laden,,,what are you going to do about it big boys???

  • Anonymous

    What would one expect from that moslem brotherhood son of a bitchin’ traitor, Obumhole?  I’m surprised he didn’t order the whole funeral service to be held in his mosque.  The son of a bitch. Piss on you, OBUMBHOLE HUSSEIN.  Take your islam, shove it up your ass, and piss off back to Kenya where you belong.

  • Anonymous

    Hussein Obumhole is slowly and stealthily replacing our ways with islam.  One day America will wake up under Sharia Law without the bastard moslems having fired one shot.  And to think idiot Americans put this bastard in power – TWICE! And don’t kid yourself. The whole islamic world knows who HUSSEIN Obunghole is.

  • Anonymous

    I agree.  I say kill Major Hassan and send the imam to bury THAT terrorist son of a bitch.  ‘allah right up HIS ackbar’.

  • Anonymous

    How damn sick can it get? This Democratic government is the sickest bunch of bast–ds this country has ever seen!

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  • Anonymous

    I remember the chills that went up and down my spine when, on the night that Osama bin Laden was killed, I saw Obama detailing who it was that performed the mission, how it was done and exactly what the SEALs do. I turned to my wife and told her that this is a man who would knowingly violate operational security and endanger the families and friends of the SEAL team and the team itself…all for a sound bite from his orgasmically adoring sycophants in the mainstream media.

    Having been in the military, I know the premium that is placed on operational security from top to bottom. Only an egomaniacal megalomaniac sociopath would knowingly compromise the lives of the men who risked all to bring to justice the worst terrorist in US history. His self serving revelation of top secret information in exchange for bragging rights landed the good man who provided the United States with the critical information necessary to find and kill Osama bin Laden in a Pakistani prison. In addition, his revelation of our use of a “vaccination program” to obtain local DNA to confirm relatives of Osama bin Laden also endangered all those who render compassionate service throughout the Middle East. It is highly likely that some of the recent deaths of health workers in these countries was because they were suspected of being CIA agents carrying out similar functions. It also put a price on the heads of the men who carried out his orders. All to feed an ego run amok.

    Now, not only does he demonstrate his disdain for the lives of those who serve the country, he perpetuates his utter contempt upon the families of these fallen men. The families didn’t want the Imam, but Obama overrode them. To all appearances, this funeral was nothing more to him than another sound bite to show his magnificence and diversity.  The feelings of the families of the men who paid the price for his moment of personal glory were and ARE irrelevant to this filthy sociopath.

    And the mainstream media just keeps up the orgy of the cult of Obama. If someone were to actually follow up on this story in their ranks, they would fall all over themselves explaining how Obama knew nothing about it, had nothing to do with it and how the Imam’s words did not mean what he said.

  • Anonymous

    Then these Christians, would also agree that it is the God of Israel who is the one and only God – for there is no other.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus taught us how to pray to the Father – his Father, who is greater than he. It is to God the Father – we pray. Jesus is God, but he is currently our intercessor before God on our behalf.

  • Anonymous

     Arabs do not think Jesus is the Son Of God, rather, they credit him only a prophet and not even as highly ranked as Mohammad, who by the way, is no more a prophet than the dog who regularly roams the neighborhood. 

  • Anonymous

    What else can you expect when the Prez was born a Muslim?

  • Mike Nelson

    If this is true, then the “fault” (should we care to assess such responsibility) would appear to lie in the fact that Muslims want to steal the word “God” for their own uses, while condemning others’ use of the concept.  (“That’s OUR word!”  Sound familiar in regards to any other demographic?)  In context to my question, the word begotten was used specifically in this statement:

    “Allah is not begotten.”

    The phrase was spoken by an Arab who identified himself as a Muslim protester and was broadcast on a news/pundit program several months ago, but I can’t recall any other details about where they were.  He was speaking specifically about the “only begotten Son [of the Father]), as in the Christian tradition, and further explained himself to mean that Allah is not begotten, and that no mere man is begotten of Allah.

    I’m still interested in pursuing this topic, if you have any further clarification, but right now, I’m not seeing your reply as applicable to Jesus.  It sounds more like they have no word to identify the concept of Jesus, which is my point: I think you’re wrong about Muslims worshiping the “same” God as Christians, and I offer as proof that they reject Yahweh.

    To Muslims, I believe, you either believe it their way and with their words, or you’re an infidel.  And I’m not necessarily faulting that perception – just saying that it is so, and that it makes integration with others very difficult for the confrontational nature of the Islamic faith and doctrine.

    As usual though, good post.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll start with begotten since that seems to be the easiest and most direct to address. In that phrase would be a reference to islam’s stringent adherence to shirk, the oneness of God. Strict monotheism that is the basis for not drawing Muhammad’s face and their main criticism against christianity due to the trinity. More the idea that Jesus is the Son of God which to Muslims flies in the face of the idea of monotheism, thus Jesus as only a prophet, though second to only Muhammad, in Islamic tradition.

    The main problem I would have with your statement about fault is the generic use of Muslims. The vast majority truly are in line with an idea that is coexistent with other religions, but as we have seen it only takes a couple fanatics with a bomb to get everybody on edge. One of the goals of Al Qaeda’s international strategy is to get the west to indiscriminately target Islam and through that gather support as they are the “only ones” truly fighting in defense of Islam.

    I think, is this is way bigger than just a topic for between christianity and islam, if you only worship one God does the name you use really matter? In a monotheistic tradition you don’t need to name your God b/c there is only one, so of course you would reject any God with a name as identification would suggest the need of identification (this is all my own thinking up to this point). So while in the jewish tradition they used Yahweh, in Islam they used Allah b/c why come up with something new when you already have words to describe a powerful god in the pagan tradition, just apply that to the one God in a new monotheistic tradition. It would make sense to if you are not a follower of Islam as Muhammad through his travels as a trader and negotiator had extensive contact with christians and Jews and spent lots of time meditating on the idea of the two religions (thus the communal idea of the people of the book), combined with the Meccan pagan tradition.

    I think you do touch on one point, certainly Islamic scripture is easy to pick and chose and twist to fit whatever purpose you have. This is why the rise of violence and radicalism has coincided with the rise of literacy in the Muslim world. Much like the reformation, though the comparison can only go but so far, as more people were able to access the original text the less power and authority the imam’s were/are able to have over what are considered the basic tennants of Islam. Islam already had a very decentralized organization/a lack of a church in order to prevent religious control of the various nations. Due to this one of Khomeini’s biggest challenges was getting enough clerical support behind the theocracy in order to take over.
    Of course as usual I am becoming very long winded in my response and perhaps giving excessive examples. But what we and the the muslim world is dealing with is the lack of a centralized church which was designed to prevent tyranny but allows the prevalence of severely radical ideologies without an organized theological opposition.
    Perhaps you are correct about technical islamic theology, if you don’t believe it their way then you are an infidel, but there is enough scripture arguing otherwise, and damnit if the qur’an and the hadiths aren’t contradictory like many other religious texts, however what really matters is what the muslims actually believe and for the majority, for the vast majority, christians and jews are not infidels. Either way muslims can only assume violence in self defense. If we want to get huge picture then the use of Islam is, strategically began, really an anti-imperialist rallying force to unite a large enough number to effectively resist the west. So to conclude with a general idea to the entire topic of political islam, the whole thing developed as a reaction to Napoleon’s invasion of Egypt and the realization by Muslims that sometime and somehow over the last 200 years Europe had surpassed them whereas previously the Middle East had been the cultural, scientific and military power of the world.

  • Anonymous

    I can only apologize for the extensiveness of what I just wrote. you might as well buy books on amazon about the topic. Mohammad Ayoob is a good author for political islam. Martin Lings is good for general knowledge about Islam and Muhammad. yeah these guys are biased but I think what matters isn’t exactly what it says but how muslims view it b/c it is their view that impacts the rest of us.

  • Anonymous

    fuck ted nugent

  • Anonymous

    Its gross how Glenn Beck masturbates over stuff like this

  • Anonymous

    I would have wanted a Christian funeral. You can can keep the military out of it.

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  • Anonymous

    Looks like tommybeckham just got hired today, he is a sad example of the literacy in this country. and I guess the pizza for lunch was enough of a bonus to work on Sunday! ( and I guess David Beckham just loves him, not).

  • Anonymous

    @slkge6, (one day ago) thanks great comments, the minute I saw the video of the chopper being shot down I said to my wife it was a trap THREE missiles fired from THREE advantageous positions, to the right and left and from above, and one directly below and in front, classic chopper trap!

  • http://www.facebook.com/richardj.levangie Richard J LeVangie

    This , of course, ASSUMES that Bin Laden actually WAS killed ..!!??

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.jorgensen.144 Susan Jorgensen

    I agree with crazy betty we can rest assured that their souls are safe with God if they believed…1 kings 18:17-40 false gods are powerless compared to ours Elijah and the Prophets of Baal. 
    The reason that they would invite an opposing religion has to do with political correctness and the lack of belief that religion is real, that God is real and personal.  To them their is no real significance blend it all together Prayer Breakfasts that invite all Gods to the table.  Funerals that invite all Gods and destinies to the Table.
    As for the Damning to Hell, this is why you can not mix faiths that are real, A confessional or fundamentalist christian liturgy would do the same (proclaim the same outcome) for Atheists and Non-Christians…They do not go to Heaven and would go to Hell in most cases and because they are dead they have no hope to convert (proclaim Christ as their Savior ) 
     As far as I know most Fundamentalist Christians would not find it appropriate to participate in interfaith funeral prayers or services for non Christians and unbelievers for the above mentioned reasons 

  • Anonymous

    This is what you get when you embed muslims, like Barack Insane and John Brennan at CIA, into your government.  This goes WAY beyond political correctness because these moles are attempting to radically transform our culture by edict.

  • http://www.facebook.com/al.henneberry.9 Al Henneberry

    This is truly tempting God — to insult heroic Christians and their Faith at their funerals. Unless Obama repents and is converted — he will eternally suffer hellfire and damnation.

  • Anonymous

    which every version of “god” you believe you dam each other to “hell”.  The “shared” public funerals are a bad idea.  Never understood why the clergy was in the government military, and why they would bless guns, tanks and such.  God(s) should say off the battlefield.

    I have to say.. I’m over Glenn Beck and The Blaze.  His paranoia, Christian ranting, dodgey history are neither inspirational nor interesting to me anymore.  It’s a shame because I had some great conversation and discussion with a lot of people on here.  I just can’t give any more time to reading “crusade starting” paranoid nonsense.
    thanks and good luck!

  • Anonymous

    I would have to agree. The video of the kill shot showed anything but a random shoot down. No way could that kind of coordination have been possible without having laid a trap.

  • mdkrause

    It’s amazing how many think that Jesus is also allah. 
    Blind stupid and dumb.
    Next time your in a church and I mean a actually Bible believing Church. That Jesus dies and rose for you to call out the name of allah as another name for Jesus.
    Your either stupid  or nieve. You just keep believing that. See what happens
    This is the new PC religion trying to get a hold in America.  
    Christian and muslim just put them together, then warp the truth, and attack Israel and the Jews.

  • Mike Nelson

    You wrote:

    “…what we and the the muslim world is dealing with is the lack of a centralized church which was designed to prevent tyranny but allows the prevalence of severely radical ideologies without an organized theological opposition.”

    I agree with most of what you wrote – again – but while you argue against me (or in that your answers seem to refute my assertion), you sum it up with the above statement: Islam is the problem.  If a kid in school beats up other kids, you don’t need to find out why first, you make it stop first – then find out why.  It’s just not reasonable that we should have to learn about their crappy faith and beliefs in order to allow their assimilation where we live.  It’s like the line in Red Dawn (the original, not the crappy remake):

    “What’s the difference between him and us?”

    while loading and cocking a gunBecause… we live here.

    *bang* (POW is executed)

    (I’m not advocating action here, that is just a description of the scene in which that dialogue takes place.  In that case, they just couldn’t take him with and feed him, and damned if they were going to let him go free.)

    As I have said, there is nothing wrong with the faith aspect itself, but the doctrine of the political aspect of Islam (I do not believe there is a way of separating them AND being true to the faith) is itself a damning indictment of the following thereof.

    Ergo, at least to me, Muslims are the problem, because Islam is the problem.  They just don’t learn to play nice.

  • Anonymous

    The Islam Heaven is Hell. They worship Satan. So thank you damming them away from your “heaven.” Nonetheless this is still a travesty.

  • Anonymous

    The Islam Heaven is Hell. They worship Satan. So thank you damming them away from your “heaven.” Nonetheless this is still a travesty.

  • xuanshi483

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