Bill Clinton flip-flops on DOMA

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In the wake of the Supreme Court’s ruling on the Defense of Marriage Act, it became clear that many on the left would be quick to forget under what administration the law was passed. President Bill Clinton signed DOMA into law in September 2996 with huge support in both the House and Senate. But President Clinton sought to distance himself from the law yesterday – taking to Twitter to praise the Supreme Court and those who fought “tirelessly” from equality.

The former president and his wife also took to the Clinton Foundation website to expound upon their support.

“Finally we’re able to get rid of this evil, evil law, the one I signed into law back in 1996,” Pat quipped. “How do you make that case?”

“Because they made the case in the 1960s,” Glenn responded. “This is exactly what they did in the 1960s. They stood against Civil Rights and then once it became popular, they embraced it and said, ‘See, we were the ones doing it. We were the ones doing it.’ And here, same thing.”

Back in March, President Clinton wrote an op-ed for the Washington Post, “It’s time to overturn DOMA,” explaining that the law was passed during a “very different time” when no state recognized same-sex marriage.

“He wrote an interesting op ed I thought, though, trying to explain this,” Stu said. “And I don’t know just how much of this is him covering himself or how much of this is true, but I thought it was interesting as far as progressivism goes is his point was he signed the Defense of Marriage Act because they could have gone a lot further back then because gay marriage was so unpopular. So if he didn’t do that, they would have done something worse. So he took that half measure.”

“Oh, what a lying sack of crap,” Glenn said. “The guy was a triangulater. That’s all he was. That’s all he was and now he’s just trying to save his image.”

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Political Opportunism – that is what we have with Clinton, Obama and so many others of the Congressional membership.

    Whichever way they perceive the political wind is blowing, and that is good for their own personal and party agendas and ideology, they turn to and rewrite history behind them.

    Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat the past = we were warned by the founding fathers about factionalism and so much more which is tearing this nation apart; and mostly it is due to so many in America forgetting not only who we are, but why.

  • landofaahs

    It’s why you can never trust liberals.  They may say one thing now and something different tomorrow.

  • landofaahs

    Yea Bill, don’t ask don’t tell.  Yes Bill you have had a hand in the destruction of America.  We will not forget you did.  You will have your place in history don’t worry.  You don’t have to remind us.

  • landofaahs

    He flip-flopped on Monica too…..  Or did he just flop on her?   Oh, did he point his bony finger at the camera when he made that statement?

  • Anonymous

    Definite flip-flop. No idea why he signed it in the first place. But justice was done. That illegal law was tossed! Such great news for so many people. 

  • Anonymous

    LOL. Tomorrow? How about 18 years later. If none of your opinions change in 18 years, you’re either a moron or you’re dead. Which is it in your case?

  • Anonymous

    His place in history? He’s regarded as one of the best presidents ever, and your beloved dubya is regarded as the worst. Enjoy your place in history.

  • Anonymous

    “Just give ‘em what they want.”

    Change the meanings of words until The Constitution becomes a pile of meaningless words.

    People are actively amending The Constitution through Supreme Court “opinions” bypassing the intentionally lengthy and difficult amendment process altogether.  All they do is write a change in an “opinion-able” way that is shoehorned into the present Constitutional framework.

    Want to deprive someone of “due process”?  Just call the unborn child something else and claim a “right to privacy” instead of specifying the act itself.  Voila!  Abortion is Constitutional and it didn’t take an amendment to legalize the act.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    It called being spineless Glenn like most liberal elites
    are. 

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    Wow that is like the pot calling the kettle black. 

  • Anonymous

    how so?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    99% of your comments prove you have no freaken clue what you are talking about and the 1% left over is hot gas. Did you pick your name for the irony of your stupidity?

  • Anonymous

    99%, huh? Got any specific examples?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    you just called everyone that does not share you views racist like thirty minutes ago.

  • Anonymous

    Stu does have a point that I hadn’t ever thought of, a constitutional amendment banning it probably could’ve passed in the 90s. DOMA satiated the push for it and it didn’t come back up in force until Vermont’s civil unions and Massachusetts marriages when it was still unpopular but popular enough to get done. A constitutional amendment would’ve been a lot harder to get rid of than DOMA.

  • Slade Simon

    Clinton will be President again in 2996?? How many interns this time?

    I think there may be a typo.

  • J Nelson

    I see your true colors shining through, Slick Willie… no pun intended but if the boot fits,

  • Snorri

    The Boy aint called “Slick Willie” for nothing. 

  • Rex Stevenson

    Calling Bill Clinton a spineless weasel and a lying sack of crap is high praise for a womanizing, coke-snorting traitor. The guy was impeached for perjury and abuse of office, and was supposed to be tried for accepting $60 million in bribery money from the Chinese. Instead, the Democrats refused to uphold the impeachment and allowed him to finish his term of office …. all of which clearly demonstrates that the Democrat Party is complicit in the treason that currently infests our government under the corrupt Obama administration. If we are to save our country, the Democrat Party must be abolished and all those who support Obama imprisoned.

  • Anonymous

    Not everyone who does not share my views. Only those whose views are prejudiced. 

  • Anonymous

    Monica, Monica please come back Hillary is so mean and a biter !
    Remember oral sex is not sex right Billy that’s why you sucked .
    Wonder if CHELSEA got disrespected in such a way if it would be a different story.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Those of us with some wear on the tread of life seek to become more wise over time.  Bill Clinton proves that once a fool, always a fool.  I define that term the same way that the Book of Proverbs, the book of wisdom of the Bible, does: as someone morally deficient.  In more noble and more intelligent times in history, a man who has repeatedly proven himself to be a monstrous liar and a sexually immoral pervert all of his life, as Bill Clinton has done, would be shunned by the wise.  Today, the world is populated almost exclusively by fools who then congratulate each other on who can be the greater fool.

    Because you fail to exhibit the remotest inking of such wisdom and insight, you have proven yourself to be one of them.  Proverbs gives us wisdom to deal with the likes of you: “Do not speak to a fool, for you will not find wisdom on his lips.”  ”The wise walk with the wise, but the companion of fools suffers harm.”  ”A fool shows no interest in gaining knowledge, but delights in airing his own OPINIONS.”  

    You would be wise to keep silent and learn from the grownups here.  You have much to learn and little to contribute in the way of insight, wisdom or knowledge.

    Equality is a nonsense term elevated by the Illuminati to a slogan to stir up the demonic and unthinking mob (equality, fraternite and liberte was the slogan of the demonic French Revolution, which was led and inspired by the Illuminati, who invented Communism).  Look around you.  None of us are the same.  God made all of us unique.  So a call to equality is a call to sameness and blandness.  Men and woman are different and praise God for that!  Marriage was ordained by God between one man and one woman and what God has put together, let no man put asunder!  

    Not all behaviors are healthy for mankind.  Sodomy most definitely is one of those unhealthy behaviors.  To celebrate sodomy, a form of immoral perversion, as “normal,” flies in the face of all that is obvious and honest.  It is the ultimate form of defiance and rebellion against the creator of the universe who describes the behavior as an “abomination,” and later explains that He turns defiant, rebellious, disobedient sinners over to themselves and their sexual lusts, immoralities and perversions which ultimately destroy them and send them to hell.  The most wicked form of HATRED toward one’s fellow man is to condone or say nothing and let a person hurl himself into torment in hell for all eternity, knowing that that is where he is headed.  Mock me all you like.  I’m merely repeating what God has already told us.  We all know this to be true if we’re honest.  But most of us are not.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Once a liar, always a liar.  Bill Clinton may be slick at sin, but he hasn’t fooled the wise and the godly.  He has always been a tool of the global elites and he and Hilary continue to follow the scripts which their Illuminati and Freemason Satan-worshiping friends feed to them.  Study his history and it becomes quite obvious who he is and not one single American ought to have any respect for the man.  He’s a complete sociopath and a con artist and nothing more.  America got conned; by him, the two Bushes and now Obama.  But this deception and fraud has been going one for at least the last 100 years and the real cons are the ones who make up the global elites who form our shadow government but who are such cowards, they hide in the shadows and pull the strings of puppets such as Bill Clinton to do their dirty work.

  • Herbert Shallcross

    It’s hardly news that neither Bill Clinton or Hillary have a moral center. Hillary took charge of managing the spin on Bill’s serial philandering by leading feminists in condemning Monica as some sort of unattractive heifer who shouldn’t complain because Bill was a step up for her. 

    At their core, the only thing a Clinton believes is that they want to win, no matter who they have to savage. 

  • Watchman on the Wall

    He fully earned that epithet and many more that are equally derogatory.  Clinton made a mockery of the office of President of the United States and to this day thumbs his nose at decent, God-fearing American patriots who demand the truth.  He’s nothing more than pond scum as far as I’m concerned.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Quite the prideful, arrogant narcissist, now aren’t you?!?

  • Anonymous

    Save the country by locking 70 million people away? Hate the Democrats if you want but your solution is fascist.

  • Steve Armstrong

    Knowitnone, right is right & wrong is wrong. It doesn’t matter if it is tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, next decade, or next century.

    Just because you have become “loose” in moral character, or you just didn’t have any moral character to begin with, does not mean right becomes wrong, and wrong becomes right. It simply means, YOU have changed. Be it for the better or worse.

    Changing your views every time a new view is presented does not make you enlightened. It means you have no backbone, and no fortitude of your own to stand on.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Rex, you’re right and justified in what you write, but don’t let the GOP neocons off the hook either.  Every last one of those 435 Congressmen and Senators are nothing more than actors and puppets of the global elites who sit on the CFR, Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission and the various other globalist organizations and their Satan-worshipping secret societies (Freemasonry, Illuminati, Skull & Bones and the like).  The globalists give these actors and the media that they own and control their scripts and they just follow them and get paid quite handsomely to do so and exhibit their complete absence of integrity and honesty to the rest of the American people in the process.

    We all need to wake up to reality: the entire world has been hijacked by an evil Satanic cult which is rooted in the deceptive, hateful, bigoted and racist belief system codified in the Jewish Talmud and Kaballah.  The latter is the foundation for all modern-day forms of the occult, magic, Eastern mysticism, the New Age Movement and witchcraft.  The former is too hideous to describe.  Michael Hoffmann in his book, “Judaism’s Strange Gods,” reveals the hideous truth of what the Jews really believe and teach each other.  It’s truly despicable!  

    The global conspiracy is very real, has been openly admitted since the 1960s, and yet no one cares, no one is listening, everyone is brain-washed and psychologically programmed to go along with that which is pure evil.  God is behind this.  He has sent a strong delusion on the vast majority of the people alive on the planet today, so that they will believe the lies of con artists like Bill Clinton, will be unable to believe the truth and so condemn themselves to hell for delighting in wickedness.  God reveals this in 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 for those who have the remotest interest in the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Typical Bill Clinton. He only signed the law because it was politically advantageous. Just like he signed the same welfare reform bill after he vetoed it twice when Dick Morris told him that if he vetoed it again, he would lose his reelection run.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    All liberals are indeed godless, selfish liars.  But that applies to all politicians.  In fact, a politician is a professional liar who gets away with it and who has something compromising in his background which his globalist masters know about and use to keep him compliant and in line with their New World Order agenda.

  • http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

    He and she have no qualms about lying because they do it for our own good, they are so incredible, what would the world be like without them

  • Steve Armstrong

    I am reminded of the movie “Liar, Liar” because I believe it pegged most (or, maybe all?) politicians and a huge % of lawyers on the nose. I’ve met some lawyers that were not scum, then again I’ve never seen them in court either.

  • Steve Armstrong

    wouldn’t it be nice!
    of course, you realize we are both on the Nazi State Administration’s radar.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Hatred of the wicked and that which is evil is a very good thing.  Fascism is a form of globalism and all forms of globalism seek to move the world toward global enslavement via total government control over everything.  Whether is it communism or fascism is merely psychological warfare designed to deceive, divide and confuse long enough for the globalists to enslave all of mankind but themselves.  This is what true Judaism is all about, as laid out for us in the Jewish Talmud and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and it is the epitome of evil.

    Democrats, liberals, progressives are all godless liars and thieves.  Lying and theft are evil.  Thus, it follows that anyone seeking to preserve his life, liberty and private property ought to hate all Democrats, liberals and progressives.  What’s good enough for God ought to be good enough for His people.  God hates the wicked.  So do I.  What’s your beef with that?!?

  • Anonymous

    Clinton doesn’t know which side his c(BLEEP)nt is on.

  • Anonymous

    Locking up 70 million people because you disagree with them politically is something out of the playbook of Stalin. What’s my beef with your insane thinking? Well for starters I’m a progressive. 

  • Anonymous

    or you’re right…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    Look we all know what you really mean if you are conservative than you are racist. I am sorry to break this to you nut job that is a lie.

  • Anonymous

    just like a typical Lib afraid to take a stand, like Celebrity-in-Chief ObombA not taking responsibility–refushing to say the buck stops with me

  • Anonymous

    what’s the first two letters in liberal–li, professional liars…they all are

  • Anonymous

    what the libs did was take what worked in every demoRat president in a hundred years and put in their creation barry-hussein-obama, the NarcisisistCelebrity-In-Chief.you know bill ayers is still bombing America with his creation barryHussein-ObombA! the antiAmericanIslamist Terrorist

  • Anonymous

    thanks for that awesome reply. i wish to respond with a couple of points, and i hope you take them seriously.

    1. “ Bill Clinton proves that once a fool, always a fool.  ”

    So you think he was morally deficient when he signed a law against marriage equality, and you think he was morally deficient when he celebrated that law being overturned? Which is the correct moral stance? He took them both, so clearly he must have been right at one point.

    2. “Equality is a nonsense term elevated by the Illuminati ”

    LOL @ the illuminati, you really shouldn’t let them know you’re on to them. Even if that’s so, equality is written into the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, so you can respect that, or try to change that, or move to some other place. Those are pretty much your choices if you want to live in a place where it’s legal to discriminate based on identity.

    3. “Sodomy most definitely is one of those unhealthy behaviors”

    Well, don’t knock it until you try it, it’s actually kinda fun. The anus has a very high concentration of nerve cells, because it has to tell the difference between a fart, diarrhea, solid stool, etc. This makes it very sensitive. Fact.

    But the real point is this: Most married people can tell you, sex doesn’t have that much to do with marriage. We’re talking about MARRIAGE equality, not what kind of sex people have. I think you can figure out that women don’t have sodomy, and this law applies to them, too. 

    4. “ I’m merely repeating what God has already told us.”

    Fantastic, but if you read the Constitution, you will see that you can’t pass laws based on what God has told us. Again, there are plenty of places, like Gaza or Saudi Arabia, where everyone is forced to live under strict religious rules, and you are welcome to go there.

    5. 
    You think you have pure and total knowledge of what is moral and immoral? That’s absurd. You’d say you get it from the bible, but bibles are translated and edited and contradictory. The OT doesn’t actually say that homosexuality is wrong, and Jesus never talks about homosexuals, but I don’t want to have a theological discussion, because frankly it’s irrelevant.

    What’s immoral (and unconstitutional) is imposing your morality on others.
    What’s immoral is discriminating against a group of people because of who they are, not anything they’ve done.

  • Anonymous

    you misunderstand. I’m saying that only people whose views are prejudiced against people based on their identity are racist (sexist, homophobic, etc.), not anyone who happens to disagree with me. 

  • Anonymous

    what’s wrong is discriminating against people because of who they are, simply because you can’t control your own imagination. what’s wrong is creating a 2nd class group of citizens because you don’t approve of their lifestyle.

  • Anonymous

    right about everything? talk about arrogant and narcissistic…

  • Anonymous

    Not at all, I didn’t say that and I don’t think that. I know plenty of people who consider themselves conservative and don’t want to control people’s marital status.

  • Steve Armstrong

    Oh, OK.
    Then alcoholics should not be discriminated against bc you don’t approve of their lifestyle. People who want to commit suicide should not be stopped and treated like a 2nd class group of citizens because you don’t approve of their “choice.”It is after all, who they are. Drug addicts should not be discriminated against and treated like 2nd class citizens bc you don’t approve of their lifestyle. Rapists, murderers, and thieves should also no longer be treated like 2nd class citizens bc you don’t approve of their lifestyle. They were born to be alcoholics, drug addicts, people who want to kill themselves, murderers, rapists, and thieves! I can’t prove that, but it’s what I believe, and it’s how they want to live or die! STOP DISCRIMINATING!

    You are a complete and utter clown. You have no real answer so you blame it on my “imagination?” ROFL you make me laugh. I will wait here while you look for someone to tell you what to say so you don’t make a fool of yourself again. Maybe you should go find another liberal to quote so you don’t have to start thinking for yourself. Doing something like thinking for yourself may hurt your tiny little mind.

  • Anonymous

    Alcoholism is a disease, so you’re right, they should not be discriminated against. Of course drunk driving is a behavior and definitely can be prohibited by law. It’s illegal for anyone to drive drunk, not just alcoholics.

    People who want to commit suicide should get medical help. People who try to commit suicide should be stopped. It’s illegal for anyone to commit suicide, even people who are mentally ill.

    (Are you starting to see a pattern?)

    Drug addicts, similarly, should get treatment, even though the behavior of doing certain drugs is illegal whether you are an addict or not.

    Rape, murder and theft are actions, and are illegal no matter who is doing it.

    Are you starting to see the difference between identity and behavior?

  • Anonymous

    “All liberals are indeed godless, selfish liars.  But that applies to all politicians.  ”

    therefore, all politicians are liberal.
    Or all liberals or politicians. 
    Or something laughable like that.
    Keep working on that theory, bud.

  • Anonymous

    don’t talk that way about your next president.

  • Anonymous

    As Justice Alito said yesterday, there is nothing written in the Constitution as to a right for same-sex marraige; notwithstanding the opinions of the 5 Marxists on the Court who ruled otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    LOL. Scalia voted that Prop 8 had no standing, which makes marriage equal in California. I’d love to hear his reaction to your calling him a Marxist.

    No one claims there is a right to marry in the Constitution. What there are, are laws about equal protection, and the right to liberty. As Roberts said, the desire to hurt gays by treatment them differently is outweighed by their 5th amendment right to the same liberty as anyone else. To put it another way, if straights can marry, so can gays.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not flip-flopping when democrats do it—it’s “evolving.”
    It’s only flip-flopping when republicans do it. :)

    Secondly, all politicians have signed laws they later “regret.” Remember, as governor Ronald Reagan signed into law the most liberal abortion bill America had seen up until that point. He later expressed regret at having done so. And of course as president he signed off on amnesty to millions of illegals, thus dooming the long term prospects of his own party. Needless to say, he REALLY regrets that one. 

  • Anonymous

    No, I just don’t change my opinions if they’re right. Most of my opinions haven’t changed for many years. See, I’ve been an adult for a long time and I’ve seen a lot of life so I’ve developed my opinions through experience not emotion.

  • Anonymous

    If they are not entitled to any such right in the Constitution, then they are not entitled to equal protection to acquire or pursue the same.  Who has my sympathy is those millions of people who signed voted, worked for Prop 8 in California and then to get dumped on the way that they were.  Why any sane people who choose to remain in the LW looney bin on the Pacific is beyond me.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    No, you got it right: there is no such thing as an honest lawyer. They all serve filthy lucre and have sold their souls to the devil – every last one of them – and the same applies to every business executive, board member and professional investor as well. and while we’re at it, let’s not forget all false teaching pastors of every form of organized religion in America. They are all liars and leading apostate churches filled with spiritually dead people who are headed to hell who are clueless that’s their fate laid out for them in Matthew 7:21-23. This is why America is in such rapid moral decline. She has gone a whore-mongering with the world, the flesh and the devil. the politicians we have are what we deserve: they reflect the moral depravity of her people. God is filled with fierce anger, wrath and fury over this. In 3 years, He will be sending Jesus back to redeem the very small remnant of His true people, to slay the wicked and to set up His 1,000 year Millennial rule on earth with His saints co-reigning on earth with and for Him. God sees all of this and is orchestrating everything for His day of wrath and judgment. Meanwhile those who serve self and the devil are going from bad to worse. No one will have any valid excuse when Jesus returns to tread the wine press of God’s wrath and fury upon the rebellious, sinful fools who have taken over our world today.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Employing straw man arguments over claims I never made is a common ploy of the wicked. Nice try. I never aid anything of the kind. If you’re a progressive, by definition, you are a godless fool. I don’t argue with fools. It’s a complete waste of time. You’re so steeped in a demon spirit of rebellion and defiance at any form of righteous authority that there is no reasoning with your kind. Your own foolishness will destroy you in the end. Stalin was one of you. He locked up or killed anyone who would not shut up and tell him precisely what he wanted to hear. He and Lenin were responsible for the deaths of 60+ million non-Jewish Russians under their regimes. This was the true holocaust that the world’s Jewish press has suppressed for decades, for obvious reasons. The Jewish Talmud is the most lying, treacherous and deceitful set of fanatical religious teachings in all of world history. Most Jews are progressives too.

  • greywolfrs

    You are a fool.

  • greywolfrs

    You are a progressive? So, what exactly are you trying to progress to? By the way, the term “progressive” was used until FDR realized that people had figured out it was code for a COMMUNIST.” Then he decided to use the term “liberal,” but it means the same thing.

  • greywolfrs

    B S, only fools consider William “the Zipper” a great president, there you are.

  • greywolfrs

    The biggest problem with this is CA prop 8 is a very ambiguous.

  • Anonymous

    and you’re a dick with nothing but insults.

  • landofaahs

    If you start out knowing the Bible is all true, you won’t have to be changing your mind all the time.  Though it’s true I believed a month ago that you were just a lying liberal, I now know I was wrong and that you are also retarded.

  • landofaahs

    I will enjoy my place in history.  HIS STORY.  Jesus Christ’s story.  It’s what human history is all about.  The fallen condition of man and every human’s need for him even if they don’t know it..yet.  I see you know as little about real history as you do about morals.

  • landofaahs

    So you agree that polygamy should be legal also?  I think it should be a legal union though not sexual.  That way a widow or widower could be civilly united with his children in order to avoid the inheritance tax.

  • landofaahs

    If history continues for 500 years, Bill Clinton will only be a “stain” on the paper or a footnote at the bottom of a page.  His administration presided over the tech and housing bubble just like Bush presided over the final stage of the housing bubble.  

  • Anonymous

    sure, it’s true, it just depends on how you interpret it.
    if i’m retarded, you’ve been very mean to a disabled person, and therefore you’re going to hell.
    If I’m not retarded, then what you said about me being retarded isn’t true, and you’re a liar, and therefore going to hell.

    either way; burn, baby, burn.

  • Anonymous

    no. polygamy is a behavior, it has nothing to do with your orientation. 

  • Anonymous

    yawn. yeah, let me know when i should start paying attention.

  • Anonymous

    its biggest problem is that it’s dead.

  • Anonymous

    lawyers, liberals, politicians. didja leave anyone out?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    You said here in this story. “Sure that was racist. But if racism was illegal, most of you would be in prison.” http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/06/27/hilarious-glenn-reads-the-unbelievable-tweets-of-trayons-classy-friend in fact comment after comment you been calling everyone racist on this page. As for gay marriage the only reason why we Christians fight this is because we just don’t want our freedom of religion being tramp on. As far as I see it government needs to stay out of marriage all together because it is a religious right and needs to be decided by church by church on what they want to do with gay marriage.

  • Steve Armstrong

     In many cases of all of the listed above they are a choice. Just like homosexuality. Are YOU seeing the pattern? Are you seeing the entire point? Probably not, bc without proof you want to say it is just “who they are” or “they were born that way” again without being able to prove it. Apparently it’s easier for you to just condone and/or make excuses for depravity. Hey, why not take the easy road, you are after all a liberal who needs someone else to think for you.

  • Anonymous

    Watchman,   please tell us more about your views on Judaism, the Protocols, the Talmud and how it all relates to Clinton and DOMA.   I know that many of Beck’s readers make philo-Semitic comments, so your views might be of particular interest.

    It seems you’re saying that Judaism is wicked and evil, so that hating Jews is a “very good thing.”  Is this your view?

  • S. Basargin

    You, my fellow American (I assume you are American), are wrong about the creation of a 2nd class group of citizens. You see, nobody created their lifestyle. They are themselves to blame for choosing to live that way and may God be with them if He chooses to. To think that anyone cares about what is going on in their bedroom is untrue. May they live long and forever with the lack of the pure and beautiful satisfaction of the opposite sex in their lives.

    But when it comes to me, the tax payer, they themselves are changing the rules. I simply can not support that behavior and refuse to be a part of a civilization that must pay for their supposed EQUALITY rights. They created their own group, they should have also created their own government, but not mess with ours. Trust me. Straight people were here first.

    Bottom line, keep it in the bedroom and out of government. You want benefits, be normal. Otherwise, keep to yourself and stop pushing everybody into supporting you.

  • Anonymous

    I wondered if sometime in the future we will have the option of being turned into salt.

  • Anonymous

    This has nothing to do with lifestyle or what happens in the bedroom. (I could point out that lesbians don’t have anal sex, or that there are conservative gay couples, or that straight marrieds do have anal sex, but it’s all irrelevant. )
    This is about the fact that it is illegal to discriminate against a group of people simply because they offend you. But you certainly can refuse to participate in this society. May I suggest Gaza or Saudi Arabia, or some other country with strict religious laws? This one has the 1st amendment.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    First of all, no Ashkenazi Jew is of Semitic blood, so the term anti-Semitism as it refers to having the audacity to even suggest that Talmudic Jews are anything short of saints is a completely meaningless fraud perpetrated upon the ignorant and the foolish. it’s nothing but ineffective psychological warfare that works for some, but has no effect upon me.

    The Talmud and the teachings of Jewish rabbis from the Talmud contain some of the most vile, arrogant, hateful, racist, bigoted and despicable teachings of religious fanatics in all of world history. Michael Hoffmann documents the reality of this truth claim quite clearly in his book, “Judaism’s Strange Gods.” For more info, the honest reader might find I.B. Pranaitis’ book, “the Talmud Unmasked: The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians,” of great interest. Then there is Martin Luther’s book, “The Jews and Their Lies.” All three authors corroborate one another on virtually every point which they address in common. A pattern begins to emerge here. it is not a pleasant one. But it is the truth. God and Jesus are the source of all truth. Anyone who seeks to suppress, silence or distort the truth is of the devil. In case you haven’t been paying attention, the world is locked in a spiritual war between forces of good and evil and evil appears to have the upper hand right now. But in reality, that is an illusion to draw the foolish and unsuspecting fools into God’s ultimate trap.

    As for my views, they are those of the Bible from beginning to end. Jesus Christ referred to those who claim to be Jews, but are not, as the synagogue of Satan in Revelation 2 & 3 verse 9 in both chapters. God (YHWH) abhors lies and all liars. The whole teaching of the Talmud and therefore of those who identify with the fanatical religion of Judaism are lies and deliberate and elaborate deceptions designed to deceive and betray the rest of the world. Anyone opposed to God and to Jesus, as the Jewish religion most certainly is, is of the devil and is therefore is evil and wicked. God hates rebellious, thieving liars. Thus, anyone who is a genuine born again adopted son or daughter of God hates all evil because we live to bring glory to God and to serve as His messengers on earth.

    This isn’t about me, as much as you are trying to trick me into making it about me. This is about what YHWH, the creator of the universe wills for His glory and His own good pleasure.

    My loyalty is to that which is true, noble, virtuous, honorable, heroic, honest, good and courageous, all of which are the attributes of Jesus Christ, the true Messiah and the son of God, whom I serve. By virtue of your haughty question, you clearly have sworn allegiance to a spirit being who embodies the precise opposite of those attributes and you and your kind are in the majority in the world at the moment. Good for you. That won’t always be the situation on earth. When Jesus returns to slay the wicked, rather shortly I might add, where will you be? Toast is the answer.

    God promises us that this will be your end and He will bring it about. Nothing in the Bible has ever been disproven. It has been mocked and scorned endlessly by wicked and deceitful liars and rebellious fools throughout history. Where are they now? Proverbs reveals to all of mankind that the end of all fools is the same: their own self-destruction and torment in hell for all eternity. “The fear of YHWH is the BEGINNING of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.” Proverbs 1:7 The world is ruled by and filled with fools today. But that will soon change rather suddenly and without much warning, other than from those of us who are called to be His Watchmen on the Wall, blowing the trumpet and sounding the warning of the end times, just as the prophet Jeremiah sounded identical warnings 2,600 years ago. The end will be the same as well. History is repeating itself and YHWH is guiding every bit of it, for His ultimate glory and honor. And THAT is a “very good thing” in my view.

  • S. Basargin

    I figured you’d say something like that (about moving elsewhere), and yet people like you who support things like gay marriage rights, abortion, etc. choose to stay in America and for some reason and don’t move to a place like Germany or other places like it :) You stay here and keep pushing for what you think should be acceptable. It’s all legal there already, just move and you’re set.

    Also, I’ve read some of your other comments and replies. It seems that you have given your own definition to the words like behavior and orientation. You see, soon beastiality will be pushed as a natural born way of being , and you will accept it as normal and a right (because your belief has no foundation, youre a liberal. You go with the wind). Again you might say beastiality is a behavior, I say that being gay is a behavior . You will say that being gay is an orientation, I will say that being into animals is the same as being “beastiality oriented”. You see what happens when a person is being liberal with words? Everything and nothing begins to make sense.

    That’s why we should leave them out of the government. Being beastiality oriented or gay oriented, they’re both unnatural. Therefore they can keep their rights and do as they please, but when it comes to benefits, they are on their own because of their choice of behavior or orientation, one and the same.

  • Anonymous

    “You stay here and keep pushing for what you think should be acceptable. ”
    Yup, that’s the ‘Merican way. Notice, however, that I’m not fighting to take away anything from you. I’m not trying to prevent you from being married. That’s the difference.

    “Again you might say beastiality is a behavior, I say that being gay is a behavior ”

    Having sex is a behavior. Yes, having sex with animals is a behavior. One that the animal cannot consent to.
    Being gay is not a behavior. That’s why it’s the word “being”. Having anal sex is a behavior, sometimes done by heterosexual people, sometimes done by married people. So you don’t really care what kind of sex people have, you care who those people are, and that’s discrimination, and illegal.

    ” I will say that being into animals is the same as being “beastiality oriented”. ”

    There’s nothing illegal about being into animals. Having sex with them, however, is illegal.

    Understand?

  • S. Basargin

    “Notice, however, that I’m not fighting to take away anything away from you. I’m not trying to prevent you from being married. That’s the difference.”— First of all, what you are trying to do is redefine the act of marriage. Once you do that, there is no stopping you. Soon your pets will be getting married and receiving my hard earned tax dollars as marriage benefits. Marriage has always been between a man and a woman in the past. If one is gay, fine, stay gay. No need for marriage. Marriage is in place to fulfill one of God’s rules. Man and woman can only be sexually active if they are MARRIED. Anything else you say to that is irrelevant.

    “Yes, having sex with animals is a behavior. One that the animal cannot consent to.”—First of all, I do not condone sex with animals. That was merely an example. At the same time, you have no way of knowing if the animal is in consent or not. They do not speak. So you’re just assuming and basing laws upon that and making it illegal. It is illegal because it’s sick and unnatural. So is marrying gays, it’s unnatural because the marriage is not between a man and a woman. Call it something else, it’s NOT marriage. Everything else is irrelevant.

    Now, if you’re gay and want to get “married”, good for you. Find a “church” that will do that. But don’t call them “married” after that unnatural ceremony. Call it a gay union or something along those lines. That then will confirm that no benefits are due since there is no marriage.

    Understand?

    P.S. People keep saying that God didn’t speak against gays. Funny, but that is sad and untrue. If you are truly that lost, I really urge you to read BOTH Testaments. The cities Sodom and Gomorrah might ring a bell. There was a reason why they were destroyed.

    P.S.S. If you say that I shouldn’t force my religion or God on the citizens of America because not everyone believes in God, then you should also realize that if there was no God, then there would be no MARRIAGE. What would be the need for it? Again, marriage is there because it is a rule of God.

    Understand?

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Church pastors and elders – they’re just as filthy and corrupt liars as the other three groups.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    It’s no theory. It’s admitted fact. I come from the most liberal, progressive, godless place on the planet. You have never witnessed a place more filled with narcissists and sociopaths than that place. it was so profoundly infested with demons that after 58 years of living there, raising a family there I left everything and everyone and moved to a place which is remarkably more normal 1,000 miles away. I know of what i speak first hand.

  • Anonymous

    It’s much to late for you. Stay stupid, you’re good at it!

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know Slick Willy had an image worth saving. The image of him and Monica did provide late night comedy material though! The perfect person to speak about marital issues. What a sack of shit buffoon!

  • Anonymous

    Bill Clinton can’t even remember marring Hillary, just ask him. Clinton’s favorite line is I DON’T KNOW, Hillary used the same line when she was asked about Benghazi and four dead Americans, first she said I don’t know, and a few months later said, WHO CARES

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    overturning doma invites polygamy and other ‘odd’ couplings or groupings but most importantly, sharia.

    mission accomplished.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    You said you wished to respond with a couple of points and then you proceeded to make 5 distinct arguments. Which is it? You appear to be very confused.

    First off, let’s be clear here: you are engaging in sophistry, or fallacious reasoning designed to obscure and confound the nature of things by false principles and wretched reasoning. This is what the scribes and Pharisees of Jesus’ day attempted to engage in with Him and it sure didn’t work with Him. For many of the same reasons, it doesn’t work with me.

    1. You formulate a straw man argument concerning Clinton’s having signed the DOMA in 1996 and now gushing over how wonderful it is that it is being over-turned. Clinton was, is and always will be an opportunist who seeks to sense the direction of the wind and get in front of the parade. He is also a known agent of the global elites and all Presidents wince Woodrow wilson have been little more than puppets and stooges of the global elites who stole control over America’s money supply 100 years ago and have been defrauding Americans ever since and making tons of money in the process. DOMA is not God’s law. It is man’s law. It was originally intended to support God’s law which makes it clear that marriage is between one man and one woman for life and which goes on to teach that it is a type or a metaphor for the harmony that is intended to exist between two incomplete people of opposite genders when they come together in holy matrimony to glorify God by procreating new life in concert with God and delighting in each other in true love making. This is a model for the unity, but distinct differences between God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

    Bill Clinton has never shown any leadership, virtue or nobility when it comes to honoring his own marriage vows and he signed DOMA because it was necessary to get re-eelected and nothing more. Right and wrong is defined by God and Clinton’s motives were wrong in the first place and his motives and his actions are wrong today. The man has no character, no integrity and no class. He is hardly worthy of anyone’s respect or deference.

    2. Your claim that it’s illegal to discriminate “based on identity,” is sheer sophistry again. Show me in the Constitution, which you claim to be the supreme law of the land (I do not by the way), where it makes any reference to a person’s alleged identity! You can’t because it is not there. The whole lie of identity is just that: a lie. If I lust after another man’s wife and have sex with her to fulfill my lust, your argument would suggest that I should be able to do so because I was merely living out my “identity.” It’s time to put the psycho-babble aside and speak like mature adults. We all have an identity, but it has nothing to do with our behavioral choices, all the nonsense in our sick culture to the contrary, notwithstanding. It comes from mad being created in the image of YHWH, the God of the Bible. This means that we all possess moral reasoning and a will to do what is right or what is wrong as YHWH defines those terms, not as rebellious man tries to distort them endlessly.

    With respect to the Illuminati, that dirty little secret is out of the bag. “Fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both body and soul in hell.” Matthew 10:28

    With respect to equality, it is NOT written into the Constitution that we are all the same or are guaranteed the same results out of life. We are guaranteed “equal protection under the law” to protect life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as we eat see fit PROVIDED that we do not deny the same to anyone else. In other words, if you choose to do that which is wrong, you deserve punishment. God defines what is right and what is wrong, but wicked men and woman seek to usurp God’s role and redefine what is right and wrong so that evil = good and good = evil. When that happens, chaos, anarchy and human misery are the result. This defines our world in 2013. Congratulations, you have argued yourself into a corner. Sin has consequences and the wages of sin is death – either our own, or that of Jesus Christ in our place if we will surrender and bow to His Lordship above all others.

    3. Your description of sodomy is disgusting a vile and is an abomination to God who never designed men’s bodies to fit with another man and the same goes for women.

    The term “marriage equality” is sheer sophistry, a manipulation of words and is hideously dishonest. Marriage is a form of relationship, defined by God, between one man and one woman for life for the procreation of life and the mutual enjoyment of a man and a woman ion exclusive sexual intimacy with one another. Marriage is a holy covenant that every man and woman on the planet has equal rights to under God. So where’s the beef? The beef comes in seeking to destroy all that God holds saved, pure, virtuous and holy through the abuse of man’s laws which are in rebellion against God’s will. this is the true agenda of the gay marriage movement and we all know this, so let’s stop playing psychological warfare mind control games and speak truthfully and honestly for once. This was never about equality. It was about destroying humanity and the traditional family and marriage which, when done god’s way, brings immense joy, love and fulfillment to men and women and the children that they create through their union in concert with YHWH. In short, the gay marriage agenda is the devil’s plan to destroy humanity and bring misery and suffering to millions of human beings. it is hateful and wretched beyond belief!

    Most married people don’t do marriage God’s way, they do it selfishly, in accordance with radical feminism that seeks to confuse gender roles and in over 50% of the cases today, then end badly in acrimonious divorces. But this was not always the case. 50 years ago, less than 10% of all marriages ended in divorce and adultery and promiscuity was way less than it is today. Fornication, adultery, homosexuality, incest, pedophilia and bestiality ALL result in demon possession which allows the devil to take over people’s lives and destroy them. Sex outside of God’s definition of marriage is a sin: period. If we choose to scoff at this, we will inevitably pay the eternal price for it, unless we are blessed enough to be convicted of our former sinful ways, confess, repent and turn our lives and our wills over to Jesus Christ forever, in all respects.

    4. Your alleged allegiance to the Constitution is very two-sided and not at all honest. We both know this, so let’s just drop the pretenses, shall we? The Founders of this nation were almost universally Bible-believing Christians and for the early years of the republic, no one who did not attest to their faith in the New Testament of the Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ was permitted to hold public office. The Constitution was framed by our Founders predicated on the understanding that no nation could properly function under the rule of law and the Constitution without those laws being guided by the higher rule of God’s laws enumerated in the Christian Bible. For most of our history as a nation, the New England Primer was used to teach kindergartners how to read – teaching the principles of the Bible in the process. But our American Christian heritage and culture has been infiltrated and hideously corrupted by Talmud-believing Jewish lawyers and frauds who serve the aims of their Jewish globalist masters of the Illuminati and Freemasons, who in turn swear their allegiance to man, money and the devil. Thus, true Israel, white Christian America, has been defiled by godless freaks such as yourself who ought to climb back into the snake pits from whence you came. I am a 12th generation American and I am filled with rage and fury that anyone would have the audacity to tell a son of liberty: demonic and corrupt Amerika – love it or leave it. No, I will do neither. I will expose the lists of the snakes and the devil for what they are until Jesus returns.

    5. If one is blessed enough as I am to be one of God’s elect, to whom God has sent the Holy Spirit to guide and reveal to me what God’s word, the Bible both says and means, it is not absurd at all to claim that I am qualified to attest as to what is right and wrong as YHWH defines those terms. I am one of god’s spiritual sheep, and as such, YHWH has given me spiritual discernment to read the Bible and fully comprehend what it says and means. But make no mistake about it: the Bible, God’s inspired words which are flawless and infallible, is a supernatural book. Anyone who is a spiritual goat will never become a spiritual sheep and will thus never gain spiritual discernment to comprehend what I am writing about. You clearly are a spiritual goat. thus you will never gain the insight, knowledge and wisdom which only comes from a fear of and reverence for God.

    Your claim that Bibles are contradictory is false and a lie. Some have been deliberately manipulated and distorted, under the agenda of the devil and his global elite agents, but for anyone who has any integrity, they can find a reliable copy of the 1611 King James Version of the Bible in English, which is the most accurate translation of the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek manuscripts which we have and there are over 5,000 such manuscripts, in whole or in part, that have been rigorously compared and what discrepancies exist are principally single letter differences here and there. There is NO substantial discrepancy which has yet been identified. So nice try, but you’re not dealing with a neophyte here. For those who have spiritual discernment and have read, studied and meditated on what the bible says and clearly means, there are no contradictions. It is true that there are many deceived and confused people who do not have spiritual discernment for whom the Bible SEEMS to contradict itself but it does not. Name one contradiction and I will reveal to you what I mean, by explaining what may seem to be a contradiction, but is not, and why not.

    And actually, you are very wrong when you claim that the OT doesn’t actually say that homosexuality is wrong. it most certainly does, unless you are engaging in dishonest word games. Leviticus 20:13 says it as clear as day: “If a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” What part of this don’t you get?!?! It is as obvious as the nose on your face. Moreover, jesus didn’t talk about homosexuals because it was not a serious problem in Judea 2,000 years ago. Why not? Because homosexuals were stoned to death to avoid defiling the true people of God.

    Don’t give me this nonsense about imposing my morality on others. It’s more sophistry and completely wrong. All laws legislate morality (define what is right and wrong by secular terms). You are perfectly willing to elevate the Constitution to the level of God’s law when it conveniently suits you to impose your sick and sinful morality on the rest of the culture and ban us from speaking the truth that it will send its practitioners to torment in hell for all eternity. In your case, you wish to usurp the role of God and declare what is immoral by God’s definitions moral by yours. I merely wish to declare what is moral that which God declares it to be. God declares lies and fraud to be immoral. You are lying and committing fraud here. Thus you are the one who is immoral.

    Your last comment is equally disingenuous and fraudulent. A person chooses to rebel against God. In fact, a spiritual goat cannot help but choose to do so. God discriminates between His spiritual sheep and His spiritual goats. Get over it. He’s God, and you’re not. But don’t try to argue that you are without sin and have done nothing to deserve God’s condemnation, wrath and judgment. God declares sodomy to be an abomination and reserves the harshest punishment in hell for those who engage in such acts, which they’ve most assuredly done. We are all accountable to God for our every thought, word and deed done in this life and we will face His judgment on the Last Day, whether we like it or not. without Jesus to pay the price we deserved to pay, all of humanity would be completely screwed and condemned to torment in hell for all eternity, permanently separated from a right relationship with God who was revolted and disgusted with our rebellious, defiant, headstrong spirits and who thus chose in response to our rebellious acts, to turn His back on us and permit us to destroy ourselves. That’s your story. You’re eternal toast. Bummer for you. But when you try to drag others into your disgusting, vile and depraved sinful actions, God reserves an extra hot region in hell just for you for misleading others, and destroying their souls in hell as well. You make it worse for yourself than you already have earned by your wicked deeds alone. That’s not discrimination. Discrimination is treating someone unfairly by virtue of an attribute that is out of their control, such as their ethnicity, gender or age. Having nothing to do with a heathen who has no interest in doing what is right is wisdom, so as to avoid being defiled yourself. 2 Corinthians 2:14-18 teaches us this quite clearly, as does almost the entire Book of Proverbs, which teaches us how to discern between the wise and the foolish. You’re in the latter camp. I’m in the former one. The only reason I have bothered to even reply to your post is to help others see the folly of your ways so that they might not be misled and end up in hell too. That is what true sacrificial agape love looks like: speaking truth into a world that abhors truth for their own eternal best interests.

    God and Jesus are the embodiment of all truth and wisdom. The devil is the father of lies and the master of fools. Our world is ruled today by complete liars and fools who serve the agenda of the devil and all that is evil and wicked. That’s the bad news. The good news is that Jesus is coming back real soon to clean up this mess by gathering up His elect: the dead and the living who are God’s spiritual sheep, and then slaying the wicked by treading the wine press of God’s fierce wrath and fury at sin, evil, wickedness and rebellion. Of course, this is good news for God’s spiritual sheep who have endured endless lies and evil at the hands of the wicked for the last 6,000 years. But it is very bad news for God’s spiritual goats, (both the dead and the living) whose time is just about up. Wag your finger at God and at me all you like now. It will just make your torment in hell that much worse later. And later lasts for all eternity: forever!

  • Anonymous

    There’s a lot I could say, but all I need to say is that all your talk about god is irrelevant to civil law. Yes, DOMA is man’s law, and that’s what you have to follow. Gods law has nothing to do with this country, and if you want to live under gods law, Saudi Arabia awaits.

  • Anonymous

    no, it doesn’t. polygamy is a behavior. sexual orientation is an identity. you get to marry one person.

    but yeah, sharia’s right around the corner, because fundamentalist muslims love homosexuals so much.

  • Anonymous

    not in the real world

  • Anonymous

    yawn.

  • Anonymous

    it’s funny how you guys are still so worked up over clinton. get over it already.

  • Anonymous

    “This is what true Judaism is all about, as laid out for us in the Jewish Talmud and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and it is the epitome of evil.”

    Fuck are you talking about? The protocols are known to be fake. The talmud is real but says nothing remotely close to what you claim. shut the fuck up with this antisemitic bullshit.

  • Anonymous

    Again, fuck off, you’re full of shit, you have no idea what you’re talking about, that is old european antisemitic bullshit.

  • Anonymous

    That’s just stupid. It only takes one liberal that’s not godless to disprove your nonsense, and I know dozens. You from San Francisco? Great city. Or New York? One of the best in the world. Fact is, cities are liberal and educated. 
    Did you leave your family?

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    polygamy is marrying several; homosexual marriage is marrying same.  what’s your point there?  we should have no special circumstances for polygamists — if we have gay marriage then by all means we may have polygamy so your “behavior” argument is wrong.  love is love.  if one can love many who are you to say “you get to marry one person?”  polygamy, therefore, should be recognized under the ‘law.’

    about sharia.  please know the law of sharia before you insert a sarcasm.

    if we can bring ‘different’ philosophies into our marital belief system, what is to stop the courts from allowing different familiar philosophies.  they’ve already stuck there judgements in a few instances citing for sharia in the courts.  this will never end.  

    your asinine sarcasm about fundamentals loving homosexuals is completely unresponsive to my comment.

  • Anonymous

    A most well known American mind once said: “those who stand for nothing, will fall for anything.” Groucho Marx once said, “one way to tell if a man’s honest, ask him. If he says yes, then he must be crooked.” Try that on any to everybody out there and hear what answer you get. It’s not just lawyers, politicians, or pastors. Like we all say, “there’s more there than meets the eye.” Look way, way more closer than that. It’s not just them…..it’s pretty much everybody we know. It’s everyone we know that have no idea or where to even stand at all on anything. If we are not honest with ourselves, then how can we be honest with others? Be very, very careful who you believe, what they tell you to believe and where to stand when the sense of belief begins to take over. Even when you get ready to believe someone, watch very, very carefully where you stand. It’s the very same lesson in all martial arts: always keep your guard and your stance strong. In the words of Bruce Lee, “emotions can be the enemy. Emotions will be your own-doing. Never let your emotions or your feelings take control.” You take control by leaving all feeling and emotion out of it. Don’t feel anything, don’t think about it. Just do it. Do it without feeling and emotion and you will see yourself at a more stronger point of stance as compared to the stances and beliefs of others.
    Here are my own words, “I believe less than I used to. I believe no one but I will listen to them. I don’t always believe what my own eyes see but at least I have eyes to see what I need to see. I don’t always think about things around me but I always think about the things I’ve done after I’ve acted upon them through an action. I know how to fight but that doesn’t mean that I can or can’t. If you tread on me, I will tread on you. As an American, I have no say in your life and you have no say in mine. There are times that I will believe you and there are times that I won’t…..but that doesn’t mean I’m on your side. I am on no one’s side. I’ve a side and life of my own and I am free to let in anyone in it…..as long as they are careful with themselves. I will be honest with you: we may all be friends in this world but there will come a time that we have to go our own way…..with or without them.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/sailorbefore41 Mardi Sawyer

    Don’t ya love the way these liberals flip flop on decisions that they made.  It is so untransparent and suspitious how they are so desperate to stay in power.  They will do anything!  I have no respect for them.  Clinton signed DOMA into law a while back; now he is happy they overturned it . GO FIGURE!!

  • S. Basargin

    You are obviously spouting nonsense that you keep making up. You being a liberal, I expected that. Although I was hoping maybe there was a chance I could open your eyes from pure blindness.

    The fact is you are wrong about the history of Sodom and Gomorrah and you are wrong about the history of marriage. Nothing you say will change the fact that marriage was a religious union BEFORE it became a civil law. The fact that it was religious before, means it still is. You see, you can not build a house without a foundation. In this case, the house is marriage and the foundation is religion. It’s the circle of truth.

    You say I’m the one with a dirty mind because I believe gay sin was part of the reason for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. May I suggest you look up the definition of sodomy on Wikipedia. You will find that the reason anal penetration is called sodomy is because of what was going on in Sodom. Your claim that their destruction was due to their inhospitable behavior to strangers is silly.

    If this still doesn’t convince you, then may God be with you. My job is done here. I’m am by no means a miracle worker. To change the mind of a liberal thinker is impossible because one never knows where their mind will go next since they believe in nothing. Liberals have no guides. They flop around like a wet noodle in a hurricane.

    May the truth set you free of your dark prison. Good luck.

  • Anonymous

    Religious marriage was before civil marriage. Pagan marriage was before Christian marriage though, so you better be careful how far back you go. Marriage was a business or political move, joining families, and people were forced to marry. (Don’t you guys watch game of thrones?) women were property of the father sold to the new husband, but still property. And in the bible, you had to marry your rapist, or your brother’s widow. None of those things are true today. Marriage has always changed. Whatever it’s origins, now there is legal, civil marriage in the US, and that’s all were talking about. You can still get married in a church, and churches can refuse to marry whoever they want, but that’s irrelevant here.
    Yes, the word sodomy comes from the biblical city, but that’s an etymological mistake. If you actually READ the bible, it’s clear their crime was being inhospitable to strangers.
    You’re the one with a totally closed mind.

  • S. Basargin

    Hahaha! Now we’re looking for truth in Hollywood (Game of Thrones)? Plus all of a sudden it’s some sort of a “mistake”? Literally, I’m rolling on the floor laughing! :D :D :D Enjoy that bit of misinformation and the air in the sand. Like I said, IT’S ONLY MARRIAGE IF IT’S BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN. Otherwise, its a gay union. No father in history forced their son to marry another man. HAHAHA! Some marriages were forced, but never to the same sex. Keep digging that hole deeper, but I warn you….it is you who are going to fall into it. Good bye :D

  • Anonymous

    “Like I said, IT’S ONLY MARRIAGE IF IT’S BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN”

    Well, you can keep yelling and laughing like a madman, but you’re dead wrong. I have friends that are the same gender and married. They are officially married in our state, and now they are officially married according to the federal government too. Nothing you say can change that. You keep living in your hateful fantasy world. Meanwhile, in the real world, my gay married friends are living it up, with full state and federal benefits and recognition.

  • landofaahs

    Now that a bit of time has placed this blog down on the lower rungs, I thought I might share a thought with you who would still pay attention to the issue after the militant hobos have left. 
    We must realize that just as Christ calls us to be the wheat among the tares, so also do we allow the evil of gay marriage exist in our land like tares. If we can stop it, we should.  But if we cannot avoid it, God has a purpose.
    We must tell the truth.  Having said that, God will grant us opportunity as he sees fit.  Hobo  (spelling intended) marriage being legal will allow the liberal lawyers to make huge profits off of the most certain divorce.  This will facilitate the bankrupting of that hobo community.  I say hobo because they have no heavenly home.  They are wonderers until their disposal.
    Teach your children the truth and always be ready for an answer for the salvation in Jesus Christ alone.  Remember there may be a repentant sinner among them that we can show the true Christian love.  Their money loses will weaken them.

  • Fountain of Truth

    I agree….that’s exactly the problem. That there seems to be nothing I can do about it…

  • Watchman on the Wall

    It is you who are stupid. The definition of a liberal is one who refuses to rigorously apply the rules of morality consistently – especially for himself. Noah Webster’s 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language defines it to mean “free; not literal or strict; licentious; free to excess. This pretty well captures the essence of all those who profess to be of the left, liberal or so-called “progressive,” which is a complete misnomer. Regressive, depraved and foolish is a more accurate description of reality for such folks.

    A godly person is one who submits to and obeys the higher authority of God out of fear and agape love and exhibits the traits of humility, righteousness, a love for the truth and wisdom. A godless person is one who refuses to accept any higher authority than his own will and lusts, is prideful, haughty, wicked, dishonest and foolish, as the Book of Proverbs defines that term, as morally deficient. The former are adopted sons and daughters of God, His spiritual sheep. The latter are the sons and daughters of the devil and God’s spiritual goats. A spiritual goat was designed that way by God; they can never become spiritual sheep and vice versa.

    You most certainly do not know dozens of godly people who conform to God’s standard of the godly. Yes, I am from San Francisco and it most certainly is NOT a great city. It is a city of whoredom and deceit, as is New York. Both are cesspools of sin and iniquity. Cities today are full of people who conform to Romans 1:22: “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.” “Fear of YHWH is the BEGINNING of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.” Proverbs 1:7 I happen to be extremely well educated with numerous academic honors from top universities to evidence it, but my education was woefully lacking until I submitted and surrendered my life and my will to the Lordship of Jesus Christ. What you refer to as education is nothing more than brain washing, indoctrination and mind control programming that makes people downright stupid. I know first hand. I have three allegedly college-educated children who are so deceived by the brain washing they received that they cannot think straight. They are filled with lies and demon spirits so that what is deemed evil by God they regard as good and what is deemed good by God they deem to be evil. They are products of our sick and prideful culture that is in rapid decline and decay and ruled by the devil.

    As for your question, no, my sociopath wife enlisted my three children in a wicked and horrid toxic family conspiracy to falsely accuse me of domestic violence and drove me from my home. All four of them abandoned a good, noble, virtuous, heroic and loving good provider, father and husband, with the full support and encouragement of 2 local apostate church leaderships who actively suppressed and silenced the truth and advanced the lies of my sick family to try to destroy me. In short, my wife and children committed every possible sin of defiance and rebellion toward my godly headship of my family and turned their backs on me in exchange for my love and provision. That is their choice. Just as God does with rebellious people, a wise father will have nothing to do with a wife or children who choose to be rebellious and self-destructive and who have no interest in a relationship with him. So I filed for divorce and have disowned my family completely, as any wise man would do. They are heading to an eternity of torment in hell and it is precisely what they deserve for their wickedness and immense cruelty. Anyone who does not find this stroy tragic is morally depraved and is probably a sociopath, someone completely lacking a conscience. Our culture is filled with such stories. The world is literally going to hell, and the wicked cannot and refuse to see it. You’re one of them. Good for you. Let me know how it goes for you when you are standing before the Judgment Seat of Christ in a little more than 3 years from now with no excuses and facing an eternity of torment in hell for your own thoughts, words and deeds that made a mockery of God. We all are accountable, eventually. The so-called educated liberal thinks he’s outsmarted the God of the universe and is just so slick at sin that he’s gotten away with his wickedness, lies and deceit. Nothing could be further from the truth. God has lured you into a false sense of security and you struck at His lure and He has you on the line. You just haven’t figured it out yet. But I have. You and those like you are to be pitied. Professing yourselves to be wise, you became fools, and in so doing fulfilled Romans 1:18-32 once again. Your time will come when you will be singing a completely different tune. Of that I can assure you.

    God is not to be mocked. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of an angry God. God experiences fierce wrath and fury at the wicked, as history has proven repeatedly in the Biblical history of the true nation of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (not to be confused with the lying frauds and impostors who pose as Jews today). Once again, those who refuse to study history are doomed to repeat it. Somewhere along the line, your prideful boasting of how sophisticated and educated you are missed that subject of world history, didn’t it? Or perhaps you just gulped down the lies of the accidental view of history and so are completely deceived and delusional. Everything taught and told to us for the last 60 years through our schools, media, government and churches have all been revealed to be hideous lies, designed to deceive and destroy all of us. I am one of the blessed few who have had God reveal the truth to me; I have escaped the Matrix. You are so stuck in it that you think it’s actually real, when it’s not at all!

    Knock yourself out convincing yourself otherwise! You aren’t half as educated as you think you are. As such, you are dangerous to yourself and to others.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Sort of out of hard facts and logical reasoning, aren’t you? So you resort to depraved rantings of a fool? “Have nothing to do with a fool, for you will not find knowledge on his lips.” Proverbs

    “The LORD’s curse is on the house of the wicked, but he blesses the home of the righteous. He mocks proud mockers but gives grace to the humble. the wise inherit honor, but fools he holds up to shame.” Proverbs 3:33-35

  • Watchman on the Wall

    No fool, the Talmudic Jews who rule our world have sought to make that claim for the last century, but it is a complete lie designed to deceive fools like you.

    Don’t take my word for what the Talmud and the rabbis truly teach and believe. Go research it yourself. Start with Michael Hoffmann’s book, “Judaism’s strange Gods,” or I.B. Pranaitis’ book, “The Talmud Unmasked: The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians,” or Martin Luther’s book, “The Jews and Their Lies.”

    It’s too late to stuff that cat back in the bag. The truth is now out in the open for all to see who care to know it. Most do not. Your profane rantings merely reveal you to be the fool you clearly are. You’ve delighted in wickedness and then think you can abuse the crap out of everyone to keep them silent concerning your deceitful fraud?!? Guess again fool. “Fear them not therefore: for there is NOTHING covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. What i tell you in darkness, that speak ye in the light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the rooftops. And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Matthew 10:26-28

    Those who claim to be Jews, and are not, are the synagogue of Satan Jesus refers to in Revelation 2 & 3 verse 9 in both instances. Those who claim to be Jews today have no Semitic blood, and thus the term “antisemitic” is complete nonsense and a non-sequitur. But you knew this already didn’t you?

  • Anonymous

    Lol. You bro up the Protocols and then whine about facts? Is that the kind of conservative moral hypocrisy you were talking about?

  • Anonymous

    Lol, yes, Jews control the world, you may as well just off yourself and go to hell.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Yes, fools have no interest in knowledge, but delight in airing their own opinions. We know this because the book f wisdom, the Book of Proverbs teaches the wise this.

    Man’s law is trumped by God’s law and God, not man, rules the universe and is the ultimate judge with the might, power and authority to back it up.

    You lie and deceive so endlessly it make me want to puke! America was founded on godly Christian principles, but infiltrated and corrupted by Jewish scum like you to defile all that was once noble.good,right and pure about America, the true nation of Israel of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

    All laws of man that contradict the laws of God are, by definition unjust and those who acquit the guilty and condemn the righteous will experience hell fire and fury in the very near future from the judge who rules all: Jesus Christ, upon His second coming which is now imminent.

    I will not stand silent and permit you and your kind to defile America’s godly Christian heritage one second longer. Arise O men of true Israel, it is time to fight off the demons who have taken control over our land with the TRUTH to expose the lies of the devil and his agents on earth the deceitful, hateful, racist, bigoted Jews!

  • Anonymous

    Have I told you to fuck off yet? You’re a racist madman. No wonder you couldn’t handle living in civilization and had to run away to the woods. But I dare you to break a law of man and see if your god can keep you out of jail. Most felons are religious like you.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    You have revealed yourself to be a profane asshole already, yes. You’re a deceitful liar and are lashing out because I am exposing you to be the rebellious fool you clearly are. You really make my job quite easy you know.

    When lying deceitful schemers enact unjust laws, and wicked and corrupt law enforcement officials and judges do wickedly by enforcing man’s laws which any idiot knows to be frauds and completely unjust, injustice will be done as God defines right and wrong. It takes real courage, integrity and heroism to do that which is right in a culture that seeks to do wrong. Everything has a temporal cost and an eternal one. God determines all of our circumstances. If it is God’s will for me to speak the truth in agape (sacrificial) love to a culture that makes it a crime to speak the truth, I am prepared to pay the temporal consequences, knowing full well that glory and honor await me later in eternity and that no man may destroy my soul in hell. Only God can. Thus, I fear God and fear no man. I am completely free to be all who God made me to be: a Watchman on the Wall and a modern day prophet in the tradition of the OT prophet Jeremiah. Jeremiah was subjected to ridicule, persecution, mockery, scorn and the hatred of men because he remained faithful to his calling from God and warned the nation of Judah to cease rebelling again God or they would be destroyed. The nation of Judah disregarded Jeremiah’s warnings, he was right and Judah was destroyed by the Babylonian army in 586 B.C. I am prepared to endure whatever God wills for me to endure to bring glory, honor and praise to Him who so richly deserves it. I have eternal hope of honor and praise and glory and an eternity in the presence of God, Jesus and other true believers. You have no hope. You’re eternal toast. I am blessed and you are damned. It’s that simple.

    You foolishly think that a man of God is not prepared to suffer and experience trials and tribulation? That is precisely the walk of a true saint, as Jesus clearly explains it in the Bible. Trials and tribulation build perseverance, perseverance builds character and character builds hope teaches Romans 3:5. I have all those qualities already and I delight God in my obedience and submission to His will for my life in all things. What do you have to show for your life? Nothing but angry venom, hatred and lies. Who’s the real loser here? The answer is plainly obvious: YOU are!

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Just a depraved, wretched, miserable soul aren’t you? How pathetic! the more you write, the more you disgrace and shame yourself. You make my job easy! I don’t have to do a thing!

  • Watchman on the Wall

    This was never about me. It was always about what is true. You are dedicated to perpetuating the lies of the world that the Protocols were fake, when in fact they were precisely what the purported themselves to be as proven by history over the past 100 years since they came out.

    You live your life dedicated to bringing hatred and misery to others, is that it? Sorry, but I just don’t give a damn what you think. You’re obviously a rebellious, ignorant, spiteful fool. The world has nothing to gain from the likes of you. What a loser!

  • Anonymous

    Nope, I’m happy and have had experiences you can’t even imagine. You are driven by hate and judgmentalism, and you’re in for a rude awakening. There’s a special place in hell for antisemites. Jesus was Jewish, so we know you hate him too. Enjoy hell.

  • Anonymous

    Get a life, nazi.

  • landofaahs

    Well, perhaps God will send another disease like AIDS to get the point home.  If you go against nature, your gonna suffer. 

  • landofaahs

    Truth never changes. So if you start out with the truth, it would be foolish to change.  Just because you’re messed up don’t put your failures on to others.  I live with and will die with my faith in Christ and not even evil hell bent people like you can change that.  I am truly free.  LOL The joy in my heart is overflowing.  Life is good.

  • Anonymous

    He’ll just keep killing you carnivores with heart disease.

  • Anonymous

    The truth is that it’s blasphemy to worship a man as god. All you Christians are going to hell.

  • landofaahs

    Typical response from an ignorant liberal.

  • landofaahs

    I wouldn’t say all liberals are Godless selfish liars.  Over the course of my life I’ve met probably 30 who don’t fit at least one of those descriptions.  But it can happen although they have all been ignorant.

  • landofaahs

    So you never put any meat in your mouth?  Not even an occasional  wiener?

  • Watchman on the Wall

    That’s it? That’s all you got?!? How pathetic and what a fool. You’ll soon see.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Oh goodness me, you mean it’s bad to hate evil and to rebuke and bring correction to sin?!? Now who made you god?

    As for the ludicrous anti-Semite label, I have far more semite DNA in me than most Jews and I do not make a habit of engaging in self-hate, so that label is just a trigger word for mind control programming to stimulate an unthinking emotional response that circumvents critical thinking and thought. Nice try though…

    And just for the record, Jesus most definitely DID NOT subscribe to the teachings of the Babylonian Talmud and the rabbis which defines all those who claim tone jews today. Judaism is a fanatical religion of hate, racism and bigotry and is rooted in the teachings of the Talmud which subscribes to endless tactics of obfuscation and deception to deceive non-Jews into believing that it teaches holy things when in fact it teaches outright lies and filthy abominations that disgust Yahuwah, the God of the Bible. You’ll see.