More ridiculous testimony from the Trayvon Martin trial

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Those hoping George Zimmerman gets a harsh sentence cannot be thrilled with how testimony is going for the prosecution’s star witness, Rachel Jeantel. Jeantel was the last person to speak to Trayvon Martin before his death. Glenn and Pat reacted to the latest nonsense on radio today.

Yesterday, Glenn read some of the tweets that have magically disappeared from Jeantel’s Twitter account that don’t paint the young woman in a particularly favorable light. In addition, during her testimony yesterday, there was an uncomfortable moment when Jeantel was forced to admit she was unable to read the letter she allegedly wrote because it was written in cursive – and she can’t read cursive.

“She supposedly wrote this letter to Trayvon’s mother saying, you know, I was on the phone with him and I know what happened and I heard it all, but when asked to read it on the stand, she couldn’t,” Glenn explained. “The prosecutor said, ‘Why not?’ And she said, ‘Well, I can’t read cursive handwriting.’ Now, she had already testified that… that was her letter, she wrote it. Can you write cursively but not read it?  How does that work out? It wasn’t her letter. She didn’t write it.”

The downward spiral continued when the prosecution tried to cover up the racially charged nature of the “creepy white cracker” comment Jeantel testified Martin said to her while they were on the phone that fateful day by claiming Jeantel does not fully understand the language.

Here is a sampling of the questioning from the defense yesterday:

ATTORNEY:  Trayvon Martin saying creepy ass cracker and using the N word, that people like ‑ people speak like that in your culture. Did you hear that?

JEANTEL:  Yes, sir.

ATTORNEY:  Well, what culture is that, where people describe other people as creepy ass crackers?

JEANTEL:  Pervert.

ATTORNEY:  I’m sorry? Do you understand what I mean by the culture, the culture that you were raised in, the culture that ‑

JEANTEL:  The area I was raised, you’re saying to say?

ATTORNEY:  Right. I’ll say it this way:  The people that you live around and with call white people creepy ass crackers?

JEANTEL:  Not creepy but cracker, yeah.

ATTORNEY:  So the creepy is the pervert part that you were talking about?

JEANTEL:  No.

ATTORNEY:  So forget that for a second. You’re saying that the culture that you live in, in your community people call ‑ people there call white people crackers?

JEANTEL:  Yes, sir.

ATTORNEY:  And do they use the N word regularly?

JEANTEL:  Yes, sir.

ATTORNEY:  And you’re saying so did Trayvon Martin? Trayvon Martin referred to white people as crackers, correct?

JEANTEL:  I don’t recall, sir.

“Now there’s a black culture,” Pat asked. “And, by the way, it’s the same culture, apparently, that the President spoke of in Dreams From My Father, where he mentioned the culture over and over and over again.”

“Listen to that. Listen to that. Let’s listen to this logic here,” Glenn continued. “Cracker is not a problem. It’s just part of my culture. It’s not a problem. It’s not racist. That’s what she said. It’s not a racial slur. It’s not racist. It’s part of my culture. Okay… What kind of culture is that that says that creepy crackers? Well, it’s a repulsive one. It’s a repulsive one, yes.”

Considering Jeantel was once considered a star witness for the prosecution, her credibility (or lack there of) could quickly become an issue. Many on the left have come out against those who are questioning the culture and character of Jeantel – claiming those who are looking into her background are trying to ‘smear’ her. And yet, when you are reading someone’s own words – as is the case when Glenn read Jeantel’s tweets and testimony – the only person smearing Jeantel is herself.

“So let’s put [Trayvon] into perspective on who he was,” Glenn said. “That’s a culture that they should be getting away from. Isn’t it? That’s a culture we should be getting away from. That is a culture that is destroying people like Paula Deen for engaging in that culture 20 years ago. And, yet, we’re smearing Jeantel. No, we’re not. We’re playing her words and showing you what her culture is.”

“And if you don’t like looking at the transparency and seeing what your culture is, well, then maybe you’ve got a problem and that’s what this attorney did. He didn’t bully her. He made her look into the water. He made her look into the mirror,” he continued. “What does that mean for the beloved Trayvon Martin? What will that mean if I then say, ‘Yes, Trayvon was part of that culture, he did say that thing’? She knows. She knows the life she’s living is a lie. She knows that her culture is the underbelly of what culture should be. She knows it. Otherwise, she would have been proud to answer that question, but she wasn’t.”

  • landofaahs

    It’s why I say I am not a racist because I do not believe in superior race.  I do however believe in superior cultures and the black culture has no redeeming qualities.  It is based on welfare, drugs, thugs and thievery.  Laziness permeates along with profligacy.  I am a culturalist and proudly so. 

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    First thing – I thought Zimmerman was on trial?

    Second thing – he cannot get a fair and impartial trial at all; this game has been rigged from beginning to end. Obama elevated it to the national political level and will send the DOJ after him no matter the outcome.

  • landofaahs

    You never know about juries Snow.  When the Menendez brothers were on trial, the one was let off and later a jurist said she felt sorry for him because he was going to live the rest of his life without a mother.  He shot her and then left and came back in and shot her again but the lady said well I know but…
    He was going to be motherless because he killed his mother and we are to have sympathy for him?   Feel sorry for me because I’m an orphan but it’s because I killed my parents.  Anything can happen..

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    True, but I am more concerned about the administration coming after Zimmerman; not to mention the NBPP and all the people making threats at him and the jurists.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    I’ve been reading the series called “The History of Civilization.”

    Time and again people have claimed ‘superiority of race’ and shown it to be so-much garbage; there is no superior race, all people are born human, thus that part ends right then and there.

    Cultures and societies have their good, great, bad and terrible portions. History has again confirmed this over and over.

    Our own nation stands out among all others for one reason: We are a Constitutional Republic, in which all people are to have equality irregardless of gender, race, creed, and so forth, and to not be beholdened unto an all-encompassing Federal government.

    What makes any culture great, and I state this especially for America, is the people and how they personify the culture in the individual and as a whole. Our very diversity has long been our greatest strength; and it has been exploited by the progressives to try and shatter us completely. It is this very greatness, in a land where ‘exceptional’ is the normal, in which hope lies for our future.

    The main concern I am seeing now is which way Obama will push: directly onto the usage of lethal force to impose his communist system or by surrogate as he allows the establishment of Sharia law from coast to coast.

  • landofaahs

    Trayvon’s racism should be on trial, not Zimmerman from what I can see.  But I was not there.  We do know however that Trayvon was a little racist thug looking for trouble and found it.

  • Anonymous

    Am I the only one who thinks zimmerman is being railroaded?

  • Anonymous

    It’s hard to believe that this “GHETTOPOTAMUS” is the prosecution’s “STAR WITNESS”!

  • landofaahs

    Just bringing this case to court was to placate a bunch of loud mouth Sharpton types.

  • Anonymous

    I have one thing to say:  Rodney King trial and the riots there after.
    (This didn’t give my profile name. Discuss wouldn’t let me use my old one, Marjiellen, so had to open new one as Margerydoll. Anyone else having trouble lately? )

  • ELAINE FLYNN

    Jeantel is a poor, illiterate person who is surrounded by like people, her culture. I was embarrassed by Glenn and Stu’s belittling of her in light of her tweets.  Her tweets reflect her culture and her lack of education.

  • Anonymous

    You all just don’t get it and won’t get it. The double standard historically comes from the white racism that justified slavery and that today keeps allowing creeps like Beck to believe they can bash blacks just because they are still unhappy about centuries of social oppression…. but I know ya’all just will keep refusing to get it: the double standard is a historical legacy brought to you by the oppressing group, not the oppressed. Do get a clue, you seem so freakishly out-of-touch.

  • Anonymous

    You really think euphemisms hide your racial disdain?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    Oh look more race baiting. How very lefty of you. You know what coward debate what they said or stop wasting our time.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    Remember the liberal mentality everyone is racist besides them.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    Oh look more race baiting. 

  • Anonymous

     I agree. This girl is the product of our education system and society. It does not matter the color. We can find white people living in her area with the same “culture” she has but instead of using the word C*****R to their friends, they use hey my “N******R”. To them its not racist – its a normal part of their daily communication between their homies white or black.

  • Stephan Bruno

    Before Martin died, he was dehumanized. No matter whose story you believe, it’s clear that George Zimmerman looked at a young black kid walking through a gated community and decided that he wasn’t supposed to be there… The dehumanization of Rachel Jeantel the laughter, the disbelief is rooted in the same attitude that causes people to treat unarmed black kids with suspicion, to follow them around subdivisions for no good reason… Dismissing them and what they have to say because of their grammar and demeanor says more about us than it does about them. Rachel Jeantel can’t understand cursive. You can’t understand Rachel Jeantel. Which is worse?
    You should all be ashamed of yourselves. 

  • Anonymous

    “Black culture has no
    redeeming qualities. It is based on welfare, drugs, thugs and
    thievery…..Laziness…..”

    I’m not black, but as a
    conservative, I’m beginning to understand why our critics think the way they do
    about the conservative movement. Your excruciatingly small-minded and
    stereotypical remarks do an injustice to the blacks in this country who do not
    fall anywhere near the scope of your erroneous conclusions. Black culture is
    not inherently inferior as you perceive. It merely displays the qualities
    of many historically oppressed people. I want to make myself very clear – I am NOT, in
    any way, excusing bad behavior; I’m merely giving the REASONS behind the
    behavior. This oppression continues, in part, because there are those who
    intentionally want to keep blacks on the lower rungs of society for the
    purpose of maintaining the upper hand; this includes securing votes and, for
    some, maintaining racial superiority.

    Fortunately, many blacks have had
    the strength of mind to get out of this vicious cycle. Many more need to do so.
    Although it is widely known that many blacks receive welfare, the fact remains
    that whites are still the largest recipients of welfare in this country. Many
    more than we’d like to think are also recipients of scores of Uncle Sam’s countless
    handouts. These, as well as the undeniably dumbed-down media/entertainment
    culture, demonstrate that current social poisons have affected
    many races and cultures in this country – yes, even the seemingly
    “superior” ones.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know why the formatting on my first response is askew. It isn’t my doing.

  • Guest

    You have Beck’s followers confused with people capable of feeling shame.

  • Anonymous

    We are living in a culture where black teens shot a baby in the face killing him yet there was little outrage..at least not to the level the trayvon/Zimmerman rose to. And apparently black mobs playing the knock out game killing and maiming whites is not newsworthy. Black mobs entering stores to take what they will without paying is not a big thing either. And if one objects to these deeds, that is when issue is taken and are called racists.

  • John Stuart Mill

    I agree.  My top engineer (computer) is black, and his culture?  Army Vet, disciplined, good father.

    It’s not the color of the skin, it’s the content of the character.  

    And spewing and grouping and bloviating … please, leave that to the Leftards….

  • Anonymous

    I think the site or disqus is having issues.  I had to open a new account, and it takes forever to see what I am typing when I post or reply to a post.  Good post, by the way.

  • Anonymous

    They are treated with suspicion because they commit most of the crimes. Zimmerman committed no crime.

  • Anonymous

    Well said. The “culture” that is being referred to here has nothing to do with black or white. It has everything to do with choices. Choices about right and wrong and how one’s beliefs play out in real life situations. 

    The prosecution’s decision to take the lazy route of stating that George Zimmerman made his choices because of racism automatically opened the door to the societal issue of race. The question is, if a white person can be racist, is it possible for someone of color to also be guilty of the same? It is astounding to me how many of leftist bent feel absolutely justified in responding to this question with a resounding “NO”. 

    Does this mean that the leftist believes that a person of color is incapable of incapable of racist thought? And, further, if they believe that a person of color is incapable of such thought, is it because they believe that, somehow, those of color simply cannot comprehend such things? That belief is so paternalistic and evil, it makes me wonder if many of these liberals are the true racists. 

    The rational answer is that those of color are completely capable of racism. The only way that we will ever truly achieve Martin Luther King’s dream of a color blind society is if we hold ALL people of ALL races equally responsible for their words and actions. There is no progress if society pats those of color on the head and gives them a pass as if they are small children, incapable of the complexities of their caucasian counterparts. 

    I have no idea what happened that night. Neither does anyone else. Based on the fact that this is the prosecution’s “star” witness, I would venture to say that this is more about the fact that George Zimmerman is not black and Trayvon Martin was. It is incomprehensible under any other circumstances that a prosecutor would risk putting such a person on the stand. 

    This prosecution team has already demonstrated that they are more than capable of lying and withholding evidence, as seen by their failure to turn over potentially damaging photos found on Trayvon Martin’s cell phone. I’m certain that their assumption that racism charges would lead to an easy win is what prompted them to put such an unpredictable and unbelievable person on the stand. Worse, they HAD to know that she had lied about writing the letter in their possession, unless they really are completely stupid. Virtually every single claim she has made has been proven to be a lie. 

    The prosecution has a VERY high hurdle to overcome to prove that George Zimmerman is guilty of murder. Based on the performance of this witness, I’d say that they will not have met that burden, regardless of the opinions of the MSM. But hey, just ask MSNBC…if you can’t imply racism based on fact, just doctor the 911 tapes and report them as “untouched” in order to poison the jury pool. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/kyle.ely.56 Kyle Ely

     I think your late for your daily cross burning

  • Anonymous

     Comment again when you reenter planet Earth. The truth may be uncomfortable for you, but it’s the truth none the less.

  • Anonymous

     you wouldn’t be suspicious of a hooded black guy walking around your neighborhood that late at night?  Tell the truth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kyle.ely.56 Kyle Ely

    No considering even the whites in my community wear hoodies

  • joyce mizowek

    what was it that she meant  when she said she heard the sound of wet grass on the phone

  • joyce mizowek

    i heard her say she heard the sound of wet grass   on the phone. i am wondering what that sounds like

  • Anonymous

     I wear them too. But I don’t strut around late at night in a gated community with it up. There is nothing wrong with someone being concerned and asking a question. Trayvon should have given Zimmerman the finger and walked on.

    If Martin assaulted Zimmerman, then he deserved what he got. If Zimmerman assaulted Martin, he deserves the death penalty.

  • Stephan Bruno

    Yeah niggers are all the same eh?

  • Anonymous

    I think therm is not Black but Urban Culture is at fault.

  • Anonymous

     For 18 years I taught in an inner city high school that was a rainbow of cultures, races, socioeconomic and religions.  In that time the only black kids who succeeded were those who left behind their “gangsta” friends and hung out with the Asian IB kids.  Several of them over the years confided in me that their “culture” was like being addicted to drugs or alcohol and that it destroyed real self esteem.

  • Robyn Harper

    Stephan, my concern is not with the culture of this young woman. A letter was produced into evidence at a trial she said she wrote. Upon cross examination, it was clear she did not, indeed could not, have written it. Unless I am horribly mistaken, that’s lying. That’s perjury. To permit her to contribute false information to this proceeding without even a cursory examination of her character and credibility is as bad as dismissing Zimmerman without an investigation. Whatever her motives, her actions were wrong.

    And lest you think dehumanizing profiling is only aimed at African Americans- do you know anyone who has seen families on “Honey Boo Boo” type shows dismiss them and laugh at their grammar and demeanor? Or at East Coast Italians? Or the Amish? Or West Coast environmentalists? It happens everywhere, all the time. And if it’s wrong for anyone, it’s wrong for all of them.

  • Annette Petrone

    Kept on welfare, drugs and thievery by the liberal politicians. It’s a business, not personal.

  • Anonymous

     she wrote it with a friend, the friend was the one who actually wrote it b/c she was the better writer.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    In the matter of a leftists who says a minority cannot hate, then all one has to ask is this – what of the criminal gangs such as the Zeta’s who use assassination and murder to coerce people? What of the NBPP? What of Militant Islam?

    Turn their argument back upon them and defeat it with their own logic, such as it is. Once done, its easy to blow holes in their debate with astonishing ease.

    I can only speculate on the DA’s final reason to prosecute Zimmerman other than for political pressure from Obama; it may be he saw it as an easy ‘hate crime, murder, death penalty’ case in which he would then be elevated to national prominence with run for governor or the Congress.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    No, he is being railroaded on many levels.

  • http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

    This means that Barack Obama is half a cracker

  • Anonymous

    “And spewing and grouping and bloviating … PLEASE, everyone, leave that to the Leftards….”

    Irony Alert.

    Condemns “grouping” and then groups with “Leftards”.

  • Anonymous

    “It’s why I say I am not a racist because I do not believe in superior race. I do however believe in superior cultures and the black culture has no redeeming qualities. It is based on welfare, drugs, thugs and thievery. Laziness permeates along with profligacy. I am a culturalist and proudly so. ”

    As if welfare, drugs, thuggery, and thievery are unique to “Black culture”.

    So, you are a “culturalist”, eh? Okay, then I’ll be one as well. I despise gangsta-Rap and “ebonics”, both of which are of AMERICAN culture and of AMERICAN origin. I despise American culture. You with me on this, ‘Landofahhs’? Or do you now wish to carve culture into sub-groups?? Do you only desire to condemn that which does NOT include yourself? ( all conveniently constructed so as to always exclude yourself, of course. )

    “Othering” is the territory of weak and lazy minds. “Us” takes responsibility. “Them” shirks responsibility.

  • Anonymous

    Duplicate removed by author.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, Margerydoll. Don’t know what’s going on but it’s not the first and the last time this has happened – and not only with Disqus.

  • mtman2

    This trial isn’t about Mr. Zimmerman! It’s about us, as WE the PEOPLE,  the 2nd Amendments right to exist and Conservative values in general. How much “to-do” would have come about if this’defendant’ was found stabbed to death in the rain in a gang assault in HIS gated community. Local news for a couple days, maybe!

  • Anonymous

    Yet she claimed that she was the one who wrote it. She did not say that her friend wrote the letter or proofread and transcripted her words. She said SHE wrote it. She has lied and been caught in those lies at every point of the questioning. Her testimony has changed multiple times on virtually every point. How is this different? She knew very well what the attorneys were asking, yet she persisted in her claims. The question is, is she a credible witness for the prosecution? The answer, if you deal in any sort of reality, is a resounding “no”.
    Even if a small shred of her convoluted claims are true, how can jurors be expected to sort through the lies to find the truth? She’s obviously not accustomed to telling the truth and seems to think that it’s her job to make up stories that will shore up the prosecution’s case. If the prosecution had any brains at all, they would realize that she was a better witness for the defense by far. I’ve never seen an attorney foolish enough to risk putting such a person on the stand. It smacks of desperation. The cardinal rule of trials…NEVER ask a question that you do not already know the answer to and NEVER put a witness on the stand that you cannot control or count on to be consistent.
    This witness was a keen example of what happens when a prosecutor presses a case too far. First the F-bombs during the opening statement, now this. This prosecution team seems to be incapable of sound judgment or character, as evidenced by their withholding of possibly exculpatory evidence from the defense. These problems should have told them prior to trial that pressing a second degree murder charge with nothing but hearsay, invalid science and questionable witnesses indicated that circumstances could have played out as George Zimmerman claimed or that the case was too weak to press. Instead, it appears that the prosecutor saw the national news the case generated and decided to garner some of that attention for themselves. They may have seriously miscalculated, though. Instead of being seen as heroes, they will likely join Marcia Clark of OJ Simpson fame as the goats of the legal world.

  • Anonymous

    I think we should all kill each other since most will never figure it out what a intelligent place we have come to in 2013 .
    For the fuckin’ life of me 51yrs old and how many eons before all of us has this color shit gonna continue .
    Seems that it’s time for something absolutely devastating that needs to happen to us all , you know we seem to need each other then don’t we .
    This is probably why the Bible tells us to not call each other fools huh.
    Just a piece of truth you have to go work how happy does that really make you when you have too leave your family everyday or your friends for that matter come on really but you have to don’t you !
               SLAVES to a federal reserve note that is basically a debt we didn’t create !
    Wonder if we all just took care of one and other and didn’t work could our masters survive ??

  • Ajean72

    Remember this when one of them boldly breaks into your home, or mugs you on the street, ok, moron?

  • Ajean72

    That’s because thanks to the media, white people seem to think acting black and being black is cool. Will you still defend that kind of lifestyle when you or someone you know is robbed or a woman you know is raped? You’re a sad excuse for a human.

  • Ajean72

    Don’t you have a tent to OCCUPY?

  • Ajean72

    Isn’t that something you should taking up with the Dem party? Or did you forget about Robert Byrd? 

  • Ajean72

    Call me a racist, I don’t care.
    I mean who are you, anyway?
    You don’t do a thing for me, so why should I care what you or your buddy race baiters think?
    I am so sick of the double standard when it comes to whites and blacks and the things they do and say, and until someone puts a stop to it, you are going to learn what we know already.
    You give someone an inch and they will make it into a mile.
    You keep giving all these ghetto rats a pass and you will suffer for it in the end.
    The media and the politicians, and their enablers like useful idiots like you keep perpetrating the stupid idea that Republicans are the enemy, when it was the Dems that started the KKK, and hatred of blacks.
    Go for it, call me your worst.

  • Ajean72

    Why wasn’t she found in contempt of court? If this were a white person, the judge would have thrown her in jail by now!

  • John Stuart Mill

    Well apologies for not being clear:

    All women are women, all Hispanics are Hispanic, and all Leftards are Leftards.  

    What I meant was:  Not all blacks are culturally inferior. “Grouping” meant assigning uniform characteristics in area to entire groups which are defined by a shared characteristic in a separate area.

    And get this: Not all Harvard Law students were Leftards … I knew this one guy….

  • Jerry Johnson

     Lets be realistic about this. Zimmerman created a potential incident by following him which he wasn’t supposed to do and then getting out of his car which set the stage for confrontation. Martin basically had two choices. Either you try to slip away or you confront someone who is following you…unfortunately he chose the latter and then foolishly assaulted him as any aggressive young man might do. They are both at fault! If I was being followed I might confront the person but would stop short of attacking them. I certainly would see no reason to attack somebody that looked liked Zimmerman. Zimmerman is getting what he deserves and sadly so did Martin. They both racially profiled.

  • bull57

    Been watch a little on HLN and after court you have all these attorneys on telling us the good and bad points. Why aren’t there regular people on afterwords telling us what they think unless there are attorneys on the jury!

  • bull57

    If in your crime ridden neighborhood they would follow and ask questions maybe crime would go down in your neighborhood!

  • Anonymous

    No matter what, that comment was completely uncalled for. I don’t know if you’re a fan of Glenn, but these are the same type of comments he continually receives from the haters.

  • Anonymous

    you should go back to having same sex relationships in bathroom rest stops along the highway

  • Anonymous

     It is my understanding that Zimmerman went back to his car when the dispatcher told him to, Martin returned and attacked him…Martin had no reason to attack him…HE made the choice to do so…Zimmerman DID NOT deserve to be attacked…

  • Mike Nelson

    Option 3: go about your business and don’t escalate the situation at all.

    But if you’re a thug and a criminal with a chip on your shoulder, that wouldn’t occur, would it?

    Zimmerman is “guilty” of self defense, nothing more.  The police knew this, which is why they didn’t arrest him in the first place.
    Show trial = show trial.

  • landofaahs

    Historical oppression is a lame excuse. My ancestors came from feudal Europe and many were indentured.  They came west and settled the areas and prospered and did not look back.  I notice you did not give any examples of any redeeming qualities of modern mainstream black culture.
    You may be correct as that more whites are on welfare but I doubt it is more % wise.  But it doesn’t really matter because anyone who says they want to cut welfare and food stamps is automatically labeled a racist by the left.  I will stand by my statement because it is true.  Sadly many white people are gravitating to the hiphop welfare culture.

  • landofaahs

    Sadly, your friend is not mainstream black culture, which was my point.

  • landofaahs

    Nobody implied that idiot.  I was talking mainstream black culture.  You know, like a majority.

  • landofaahs

    I guarantee they were in the minority, no pun intended.  The majority of the black culture is just what I said.

  • landofaahs

    I did not say that it was unique with black culture. Don’t be lying about what I said.  I say these are acceptable practices within the norm of black culture and it is.  gangsta rap is of black American culture.  I am a traditionalist in American culture.  I did not say it was perfect nor did I claim I was.  The superior American culture was raising your family as you see fit.  Providing for them yourself. Teaching right from wrong.  You don’t do beat downs at the McDonalds.  What tennis shoes you wear makes no difference.  Save money for your own retirement.  Take care of your parents when they are old as they did you.  Have a traditional marriage where it was not a lie for the bride to wear white.  Go to church and raise your children in a good Christian home.   Help your neighbor when they need help and don’t steal from them or anyone else.  You could leave something expensive in your yard over night and it would still be there in the morning….Are you starting to get the picture?  I forgot about hard work and not bitching about the pay and being satisfied with the blessings God gives you. 

  • landofaahs

    So is putting their butts in prison.

  • landofaahs

    I’ll leave that to finetapestry.

  • landofaahs

    If I hammered you unjustly, I am sorry.  If not then I’m not. )

  • landofaahs

    I like Justice Clarence Thomas, do you?  I like Alan Keys, do you?   I like Alan West, do you?  I like the guy Glenn interviewed today, Ken Hutcherson, do you?  They are all black.  Racism his hating someone because of the color of their skin.  So your statement cannot be true.  So what is the one constant?  I dislike liberals no matter what color they are.  Liberals like you have only the hammer of race and your homophobia charges and every disagreement with you is regarded as a nail.  You’re a sad excuse for a human being.  Your kind pervert everything, even words.

  • landofaahs

    You must not have read his history in school about his tools for breaking and entering.

  • landofaahs

    He was going to break into apts. and be like Santa Claus and leave people $50 bills.  The little angel.

  • landofaahs

    I believe 95% were stupid enough to vote for Obama the second time.

  • landofaahs

    Shame is what liberals don’t feel.  No shame for killing babies in the womb, messing with interns in the White House, they lie and it does not bother them a wit.  When was the last liberal who was ashamed when getting caught? Anthony Weiner?

  • landofaahs

    There are no slaves still living and no slave holders.  The blacks who were oppressed are the least corrupted.  The young ones are the worst. Why is that?  They were not oppressed.

  • Anonymous

    “Ghetto rats”? Sure, your feelings about double standards are rooted in equality and tolerance… sure

  • Ajean72

    I never said I believed in equality or tolerance! You so called tolerant idiots don’t even know the meaning of the word. I suggest you stop bashing people since you yourself are not tolerant.
    If you were tolerant, you would realize that not everybody is going to think the way you think, or want what you want, or like what you like.
    You are so dense you don’t even realize your beliefs are not tolerant.
    Oh and keep pointing fingers and calling people names, or pointing out what you think others should do.
    I hope you become a victim of the knock out game.
    I bet you would change your tune then, troll!

  • Ajean72

    Blame the media and the politicians, and organizations like the NAACP, and Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Obama for all the racial division.

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    she’s been taught that racism is only one way (white on black) so, a continuation of the al sharpton doctrine.

  • Anonymous

     No. But blacks with hoodies who strut through gated communities late at night are usually looked at with suspicion.

  • Jr1776

    If you looked up stupid in the dictionary, this Womans picture would be there.

  • Jr1776

    The natives will be restless, if Zimmerman is found not guilty.

  • Anonymous

    Amazing…culture!!!!!!!!!!  This woman does not even know what the word means. I have to say this…so Paula Deen (I realize she is not the issue here) does not have a culture and she can be punished to the nines for words used in her past even though she was honest about it but most likely wrong in doing so. BUT our black “culture” can say whatever they wish and get away with it and never be held guilty for it.. I am sick to death of the double standard. Offensive words are just that offensive…if you choose to use them then YOU are offensive…but it is not illegal. I was an intrinsic part of Neighborhood Watch while I lived in Florida…believe me when I tell you our sectors met often and with the police. NEVER were we advised to carry arms…rather we had watch people on every block and had a phone chain that reached every member of our sub-division when necessary (and it was used often) and in minutes. We hired off duty police to protect our neighborhood. Mr. Zimmerman carried a gun by his own choice – not at the advice of Neighborhood Watch – and he was legally armed. Mr. Zimmerman appears to be held guilty before a judgment is passed and that is what is so pathetic about this trial. The man protected himself…plain and simple. Proving it is coming from a “culture” that will do anything to have this man found guilty. Yes, walda151, he is being railroaded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

  • sweetsuzee

    You obviously haven’t been listening to the testimony. GZ was urged to follow him by the dispatcher because they needed to know which way he was going. GZ was planning on waiting in his car for the police to arrive until asked the questions about Trayvon’s direction. Since he didn’t have x-ray vision, he had to check it out on foot. And the media having reported originally that he “wasn’t supposed to follow him” was also disproven as the dispatcher said there is no such “rule”.  The ONLY racial comments came out of Trayvon’s mouth when he referred to GZ as a “creepy ass cracker”.

  • Anonymous

    There is NO way this man will receive a fair trial. We shouldn’t think for one minute that it isn’t in the back of people’s mind, that a certain group put a bounty on Zimmerman’s head! The jury is made up of mostly women, who will consider the safety of their own families. There were threats of riots, political involvement, and people fired over this case. Even if the evidence can’t show beyond a shadow of a doubt that he,s guilty, he will still be convicted. Unfair, but a reality, imo.

  • Anonymous

    You are putting words in my mouth. First of all, did I say that ALL historically oppressed groups behaved that way? No. I specifically stated that “many” of them do. I also clearly stated that I was not “excusing” these actions.

    Indentured servitude was nothing even close to black slavery. The indentured servants were merely working for a specific time period – i.e. contracted – to pay off something they owed (travel expenses from Europe, etc.). To keep this brief, I’ll just say, “Generally, they were still treated as and considered human beings.” This was not the case for black slaves and this continued into the 20th century. This is mind-boggling, given the fact that the first slaves came here in 1619.

    So, now you’re talking about “modern mainstream black culture”? You never mentioned that in your original post. You simply referred to “black culture.” Huge difference. Nevertheless, there are redeeming factors even for the culture you seem to be referring to: There are young Christian rap artists who have a powerful and positive message. They inspire and have helped many come out of the negative lifestyle they’ve been in. There are also non-Christian artists who just have a positive message. There are amazing hip-hop dance groups and singing groups who choose not to belong to the vile and nasty category. The rap/hip-hop culture consists of many different races, including whites. All I’m saying is, you can’t paint everyone with one sweeping generalization.

    Regarding welfare, I think we can agree that way too many Americans of all races have jumped on the freebie wagon.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t think it strange that this witness can’t read, or write cursive. I homeschooled for eight years, and then kids went to public school. My kid brought home a note that said assignments wereto be printed. I ask the teacher why. I received the answer that the only time kids were required in society to write in cursive, ws to sign their names! If I hadn’t taught my kids, the schools would not have. They now depend on electronics for almost everything. Public education is a joke. It rarely uplifts any child, from any culture they were born into. Sometimes, I think this was the intent, and not just a happy accident for govt. If states don’t step up, and stop bowing to the federal govt for funds, there will soon be no states. All lines will be erased, and we will be a large territory, overseen by the federal govt. This young lady shows by her education, that she feels it is ok for her culture to insult others with a racial slur.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, Margerydoll. Yes, very strange things are happening all over the internet with regards to comments. BTW, I sent you a comment yesterday and until now, it still hasn’t posted. So, I’m sending this one. Hope this one posts.

  • landofaahs

    You are putting words in my mouth.  I never said servitude was the same as slavery.  It was however worse than anything that todays black community endurerd. They were not slaves because all the slaves and slaveholders are dead. The blacks of today suffered none of the evils of slavery.
    As far as modern mainstream black culture statement.  I did not think that it needed to be said since the term black culture should denote the culture of today and not the past. But since I am speaking to an unlearned person such as yourself, I must assume everything needs to be explained to you.  I will try to remember that I am conversing with a challenged person.
    Once again you come up with examples that are not mainstream of the culture, you are speaking of exceptions  not the rule.  So stay on  subject please.  Mainstream must include the majority not just a few scattered groups.  So I am entitled to use sweeping generalities because I am stating the norm not the exception.

  • Anonymous

    I answered all of your questions based specifically on what you stated – despite your conveniently changing the terms you used each time. The comments are there in plain view.

    You have ugly, deep-seeded sentiments that need to be addressed and your views are poisoned by these sentiments. We can have all the freedom in the world, but we can still be imprisoned by bigotry and hatred. Hatred only destroys one party – the hater. By your very words, you demonstrate that you are no different than all the “others” you so despise and condemn.

  • landofaahs

    God Bless you.

  • Anonymous

    When did this become a cultural dialect investigation? 

  • Anonymous

     “GZ was urged to follow him by the dispatcher because they needed to know which way he was going.”

    That’s inaccurate. The dispatcher never urged him to follow him. They told him to return to his vehicle. It’s not against the law to ignore that request but let’s keep the facts straight.

  • Anonymous

    There’s no evidence that he returned to his car. The incident happened quite a distance from his car.

  • Anonymous

     I could agree that there are some negative qualities in black culture but to say it has ‘no redeeming qualities’ shows your bias or ignorance. For example, there is a significant religious, particularly Protestant, tradition in black society.

    http://www.pewforum.org/A-Religious-Portrait-of-African-Americans.aspx

  • Anonymous

    While watching most of the testimony and the best part, the so called talking heads later, most of them lawyers, 90% of the female guests would hang Z. tomorrow if given the chance. I think with six women on the jury, Z. is in real peril.

  • Anonymous

    You mean like the 87% of blacks who identify themselves as religious? That sort of mainstream?

  • John Stuart Mill

    “I do however believe in superior cultures and the black culture has no redeeming qualities.”

    Yeah, ya did put all blacks or the typical black or the average black in on one box, that’s implied by the use of black as an adjective, preceded by “the” so we all know there’s only one “black culture.”

    So grammatically, it turns out you’re a racist prick who groups all blacks together as sharing one “black culture” after all.

    Think before you spew, moron.

  • Anonymous

    Especially words, not to mention the rules of logical argument.

  • Anonymous

    Or a basement?

  • DaddyJeb@hotmail.com

    All non-blacks are exhausted from Black Fatigue, which is 86% of our population.
    It’s time for the black community, with all of its social pathologies, to shut up, grow up, and get off the rest of our collective financial/ government teats.

  • Anonymous

    So out of touch, so blindly racist… why? Because you are generalizing, because you think they shouldn’t be so touchy about you generalizing your judgements about them… are you for real?

  • Anonymous

    Which “natives” are you referring to?

  • Anonymous

    They are oppressed, you dunce. They might not be enslaved, but they surely get the short end of the stick in terms of class and racial profiling and discrimination. All of you not getting this girl is different and not stupid are doing exactly that. All of you thinking blacks are more criminal instead of more profiled by the police are doing exactly that: judging her w/o a second thought, w/o an ounce of reflection or sympathy.

  • Anonymous

    That’s what it means for a racist.

  • Anonymous

    It’s sort of a high frequency hiss in the rhythm of steps, sounding in the background of the voice.

  • dj

    ha ha Zimmerman is going to jail. lol. “crackers”. you ppl wonder why you willever win another presidential election again.

  • Anonymous

    Nope. What is racist is to put Trayvon, those black kids who shot a baby and the imaginary mobs maiming whites in the same box because they are all black. Racist is thinking blacks have a problematic place in our society because they are black, and not because their previous generations were denied the vote and before that were enslaved by whites who thought blacks were subhuman. Some whites today seem to keep thinking they are naturally superior. That’s the white racism. Blacks being angry and resentful towards whites doesn’t really seem like the same thing, does it?

  • sweetsuzee

    Not true. Perhaps you do not know the true meaning of the word “urge” as it is not a mandate or anything remotely similar. Even the dispatcher testified how he can understand how GZ believed that is what he was asking of him by the sheer questions being asked and his (the dispatcher’s) eagerness fo ranswers. And, the dispatcher clearly testified to the fact that he never ordered GZ to return to his vehicle.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=581834054 Ginny Auldridge

     it was obvious from the first moment. it was even more obvious when obama went on tv and said that the young man looked like what a son of his would look like… all in order to stir up racial hatred and many attacks against white occurred immediately afterwards. It was just perfect for the pres. to get a quick trial effort at how easily riled mobs can be behind his words… so everyone would be afraid to try to come against him, mobs at his beck and call.

  • Anonymous

    No walda….half of America KNOWS Zimmerman is being railroaded. We need to pray for him as it will take an act of God to expose the real truth in that it was self defense.Can you imagine what Zimmerman felt and thought when Trayvon smashed his nose so violently it fractured it. Zimmerman’s response would have been fear, pain shock and his sense of flight or fight would have kicked in. He could not flee as Trayvon pinned him down to the ground.After reading the police and witness reports early on it was so evident Zimmerman feared for his life.

  • Anonymous

    Jerry..Zimmerman was the neighborhood watchman. He was responsible for helping to keep his neighborhood safe. Trayvon was acting suspiously and an unknown. Zimmerman had every right to check a stranger out. He was on the phone to the police and kept visual on Trayvon so as to tell police where he was. According to reports, Trayvon was peering into windows and conducting himself strangly. Since Trayvon was so angry over being checked out, what any reasonable person would have done is to walk up to Zimmerman and ask what the problem was. After being told Trayvon should have said..sir, thank you for helping to make my dad’s neighborhood safe and be assured I am simply walking to my dad’s home. Instead he assaulted Zimmerman.

  • Anonymous

    Zimmerman’s trial is proof that racial prejudice has come full circle.
    Can you imagine how much worse blacks would be than whites were, if blacks were
    ever in the majority? Just look at the abuses of the Obama administration against conservatives, which to them is the archetypal white person. Here is a quote of Clarence Darrow from the famous Sweets
    Trial: 

    “What I’m worried about is
    prejudice.  They are harder to change.  They come with your mother’s
    milk and stick like the color of the skin. I know that if these defendants had
    been a white group defending themselves from a colored mob, they never would
    have been arrested or tried.  My clients are charged with murder, but they
    are really charged with being black.”   –Clarence Darrow, 11/24/25.

    If Zimmerman had been black and Trayvon had been white in a black
    neighborhood, Zimmerman would never have called the police and no one would
    have seen a thing. The latter scenario happens every day and the media often
    refuses to report the race of the victims and murderers because it makes it
    more difficult for them to make excuses for black racism.

  • Anonymous

    finetapestry…imaginary mobs maiming whites?

  • Anonymous

    FineTapestry..enslaving blacks or anyone for that matter is a wicked and evil thing! It was unacceptable then and unacceptable today! That is one of the reasons he civil war was fought..to abolish slavery. The past is gone dear, how is it reasonable and even sane to hate the whites for what happened 200 years ago? It is this  mentality of perpetually being a victim of something that happened 200 years ago that is hurting black America.Anger and resentment towards whites will never bring the peace and contentment one seeks.It will only escalate into violence and mayhem.Racism is judging a person over their skin color..it is not racism to hold another accountable for their acts and conduct.It is just as unacceptable to roam the streets looking for whites to play the ‘knock out game’ as it is to harm anyone because they are black.

  • Anonymous

    “The past is gone dear”, it would be so easy, if we were all as comfy as you to affirm that. Your notion of racism is ideal, that is, based on the understanding of a concept that says “judge by the color of the skin”. But that is not the racism blacks suffer in America, which is not ideal but historical. You think blacks are thugs because they assault whites. You so wrong. It’s the condition that pushes many blacks to crime that is the legacy of white racism in this country. Please do get fraking clue.

  • landofaahs

    They are not oppressed you dunce, unless you consider what the democrat party is doing to them through robbing them of their pride and dignity through welfare and food stamps.

  • landofaahs

    Like the 95% or so who belong to a party that says it’s O.K. to have children out of wedlock, abort their babies, steal from people work in order so you can sit on your butt and I could go on and on. I’m sure the black on black crime is a product of MUCH of the culture.

  • landofaahs

    Some but not enough to make a difference evidently since out of wedlock births, stealing from working people through welfare and food stamps etc. Of course the divorce rate went down but that’s because they don’t even bother getting married to begin with.

  • Isabel Herron

    like Connie said I am impressed that a single mom able to earn $9469 in 4 weeks on the internet. have you read this page w­w­w.K­E­P­2.c­o­m

  • Isabel Herron

    gr8

  • Anonymous

    What you accept as “fact” is a fiction. Can you name a single government program designed for poor whites? It’s time to stop making generalizations like, “They’re oppressed..” as if, simply because of color, a person is not capable of overcoming poverty, parenting or other opposition.
    When I went through medical school, I was first in my class. No one in my family had ever lived above the poverty line. Yet, there was a special program at my school in which, prior to beginning the freshman year, any person of color who was accepted to school was allowed to come in and be given a summer long synopsis of all of the classes and tests at the school. No consideration was given for economic status at all. Not one of the students that took advantage of that program came from disadvantaged situations.
    There were 76 in my graduating class. Of those, there were 11 white males. Of those, six of us were in the top 10 students. Two of us went on to combined surgical residency/PhD programs. Not one of us came from middle class families. Not one of us was allowed access to ANY scholarship programs because of the color of our skin. The black male who was dead last in the class…? He had a full ride scholarship and was paid a $21,000/yr stipend and had been stuck at junior year for three years. Is that what you would call “oppressed”?
    And here’s a clue for you, Tapestry-the president of the United States is what color……? Apparently, the oppressed have gained the ability to field from their ranks, the most powerful human being on earth. I guess that’s because someone of color just can’t make it in this horrible country, right? What the black race needs is more government programs, more fatherlessness, more rewards for self destructive behaviors? I guess that for those liberals who believe such nonsense it keeps those of color exactly where those programs have landed them. Poor, uneducated and in ghettos far removed from your neighborhood.
    Here’s another question for you. Which patients were worthy of the attentions of the man in my class who was being given dispensations because of the color of his skin? I can tell you where such physicians end up. In poor, black or hispanic communities that have no choice. You and all liberals need to stop believing that those of color are incapable of advancement all on their own. Those days are over and the most rampant racism that I see inculcated in our culture comes not from white culture, but from black culture, where many believe that, due to skin color, racism is not possible.
    Your beliefs…THAT is what keeps a people disadvantaged, not hatred from other races.

  • Anonymous

     Most people on welfare and food stamps are white.

  • landofaahs

    I don’t think so when you are taking about % of population. But if you are correct, it would not be racism to end it, would it. Thank you for admitting that getting rid of welfare and food stamps is not racism. I am saving this post.

  • Anonymous

    @landofaahs: Twisting and turning until you think you’ve got a point. I like it. 10 points for trying. I presume your new found knowledge will mean that you’ll rethink your belief that black culture has no redeeming qualities but I doubt it.

  • Anonymous

    Where you there when this whole incident went down, you sound like you were.

    Unfortunately only two people know what really happened and one of them is dead. How do you know that it wasn’t Trayvon defending himself and Zimmerman the aggressor, don’t you think that Trayvon could have also been afraid. Why would Trayvon just attack Zimmerman a man twice his size unprovoked? Zimmerman could have very well murdered this kid and tried to cover it up. Trayvon wasn’t doing anything wrong he was walking back home after buying skittles and iced tea and if he was a thug like everyone here is saying why bother paying for the skittles and iced tea, why didn’t he just steal it like any real thug would do. I want to know why did Zimmerman thought Trayvon looked suspicious? Was it because he was black, was it because he was wearing a hoodie, or both. Something just doesn’t smell right about this entire case. I’m just sayin.

  • Anonymous

    mightguy…everything I said was taken from the police reports.

  • Anonymous

    Also..if we look to te jewish race..one will find they were one of the most
    oppressed and violated people in the history of the world. Yet they did not mob nor resort to violence nor seek free andouts. They continued to live their life improving the welfare of others. How many nobel prizes have they racked up by now..they are in the hundreds.

  • landofaahs

    You have a right to use any word you like.  But, it’s sad non the less.  Do you have some other words like fags, queers, c-suc—s.?  I don’t really care from the sense of liberty,  you have every right to do so.  I have to tolerate it on the basis of free speech.

  • landofaahs

    And your obviously “rainbow” conclusion would Be?

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately for your theory, the forensics don’t match what you are saying. It’s not two people’s word vying for attention. The forensics match what he claims, not what the prosecutor is trying to convict him on. There WAS an eyewitness to the event and he testified that it was Trayvon on top. It would have been nearly impossible for someone to mistake the two of them, as their body shapes and the clothing they were wearing was vastly different. No competent attorney would have used their “star” witness if they had a case that even circumstantially matched the forensics.
    This case has been pushed from the beginning as a “representative” case revolving around race and firearms. Because of that, the prosecutors have stretched evidence far beyond what can be proven, hoping that the jurors will make a decision based on emotion, not fact. The prosecution says murder, but the law requires only that a reasonable person in a similar situation would be justified in using deadly force if they felt their life was in danger. A head being slammed into the ground by an attacker on top of the person using deadly force more than satisfies the law’s requirement. Again, both George Zimmerman’s neighbor’s testimony and the forensic evidence corroborate this version of events.
    This was not an execution. The boy had no justification to attack George Zimmerman without being physically assaulted. He wasn’t touched until he turned and attacked. It does not matter that he didn’t like George Zimmerman following him. What if Trayvon Martin had been following George Zimmerman and George Zimmerman turned and attacked him because he didn’t like being followed? Would he have been justified in describing Trayvon in racially derogatory terms to a friend on the phone?
    Of course that scenario would be unacceptable, yet, somehow, the fact that Trayvon Martin was black somehow excuses him from responsibility for those actions. The fact that, by his friend’s testimony, he was using racial epithets is completely overlooked and excused as if, because of the color of his skin, he was incapable of racism. He wasn’t shot until he was on top of George Zimmerman, slamming his head into the ground and after breaking his nose. The forensics also corroborate the story based on the angle of the bullet trajectory as well as blood splatter evidence at the scene.
    However, even if there was only a living person’s word against that of a dead one, the law still clearly cannot convict him without affirmative evidence. The situation is tragic. George Zimmerman may have made a decision that he wishes he had not, but this case has become, not so much about a deadly altercation between him and a young boy, it has been inappropriately dragged into the arena of race, where it does not belong. I may not have been there, but neither was the prosecution and it is unconscionable for them to continue to portray this as murder when the evidence so clearly argues against it. If this case had not become such a circus in the mainstream media, it would never have been pursued with such vehemence. However, now that they have to lay their cards on the table, it is likely that they cannot overcome the burden of proof required for such a strategy to succeed.

  • landofaahs

    No twisting. Now turning. You would giver examples if you had them. Tell me what the mainstream cultural practice of the black community deserves our admiration. I have struggled and the only thing I can find is the vast overwhelming anti-gay sentiment which many of the black athletes have recently demonstrated.

  • Andrea Shackamxon

    The trial seems to be going Zimmerman’s way but I don’t trust jurors in these media driven cases–at best, he only has a 50/50 chance of being acquitted, and if he is, his life has been effectively ruined and the Stand Your Ground Law will probably be repealed.

  • Anonymous

    Like Casey Anthony?

  • Anonymous

    slkgej6, you’re 100% correct.

    You need to have your own blog or something because this is an important message. 

    People like Tapestry try SOOO hard to think outside of the box that they refuse to ever even look inside to see whats in it….. too liberal and too closed minded… Find the balance.

  • landofaahs

    I ask you this.  Do you or do you not see anything wrong with a woman killing her own baby in the womb?   I ask you if there is nothing wrong with killing your own child in the womb?  I don’t want to hear about someones’  right to kill their baby in the womb.  I want to know if you think it is right or wrong. 

  • Sandie

    You nailed it brother.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4HAW7OERGSC7VZM72V7IGDJ3B4 Sharmane

     I like all of the people you mentioned, and plenty more.  Bill Cosby, Herman Cain, Condeleeza Rice to mention a few.  Liberals/leftists only like black people they can keep on the government plantation and who step and fetch for them.

  • Guest

    He’s an Occupooper and a moron, 1st class.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t read cursive, what about anything else? In spite of the nearly countless programs, for every black person who rises to the quality of the standout media icons there are thousands of Jeantels. What an embarrassment her 15 minutes is to the government, media, academia, and their pathetically failed multi-generation social engineering program.

  • Anonymous

    I completely agree, mightguy. I haven’t
    had a chance to listen to the testimony. However, throwing out all assumptions
    and speculations, the original 911 call clearly shows that this
    entire, sad incident was PREVENTABLE. I just listened to the entire call
    again (the unredacted version) on YouTube.

     

    GZ, who himself already sounds
    “off,” tells the dispatcher that he suspects wrongdoing because, as
    he states, Trayvon “looks like he’s up to no good or is on drugs or
    something. He’s just staring, looking at all the houses.” The dispatcher
    then asks GZ if he’s following Trayvon and GZ replies, “Yeah.”  The dispatcher specifically tells him,
    “OK, we don’t need you to do that.” The dispatcher already knew where
    this type of situation could lead. GZ agrees to meet with the police at
    “the mailboxes.” However, he changes his mind and says, “Actually,
    could you have them call me and I’ll tell them where I’m at.” GZ was
    hellbent on pursuing Trayvon.

     

    Am I saying that Trayvon was NOT
    intending to commit a wrongdoing? No. Only God and Trayvon know whether he was
    or not. Unfortunately, Trayvon is not here to give everyone his side of the
    story. The bottom line: While he might have “appeared” to be
    intending to commit a crime – and this is ONLY based on GZ’s hunch – he did not.
    If Trayvon had indeed committed a crime, he should have been punished for it.
    He did not need to DIE.

     

    If GZ had heeded the wise advice of
    the dispatcher to NOT follow Trayvon, the situation could have been
    professionally assessed by the police. The dispatcher tells GZ several times
    that the “POLICE ARE ALREADY ON THEIR WAY.” GZ also mentions several
    times that Trayvon was running away. So, if that were the case, what happened
    that the two ended up in a confrontation where one of them, an unarmed young
    man (armed with a bag of Skittles and a can of Arizona iced tea), ended up losing
    his life? George Zimmerman could have PREVENTED this killing by restraining
    himself and allowing the police to do what they were trained to do.

  • Anonymous

    Please read my reply to mightguy. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    Listen to the original 911 call (unredacted version) on YouTube for yourself. The dispatcher asks if GZ is following Trayvon and GZ answers, “Yeah.” The dispatcher specifically tells him, “We don’t need you to do that.” The dispatcher also informs GZ on several occasions that the police are already on their way but renegade GZ is determined to pursue his prey. I posted a reply to “mightguy” that goes more in depth.

  • Anonymous

    Please read my reply to mightguy. (I’m having problems posting for some reason, and the formatting is off when it does post.)

  • Original Afghan

    May Allah guide us all closer to the truth!

  • Anonymous

    Based on the original, unredacted 911 call, which I just listened to again, Zimmerman was determined to pursue Trayvon at all costs. He could have prevented this entire incident by leaving it in the police’s hands. They were already on their way and the dispatcher informed Zimmerman of this several times. I don’t agree, though, that Martin deserved to die. He had not committed any crime, even prior to Zimmerman’s decision to pursue him. Moreover, only specific crimes result in the criminal truly deserving to lose his or her life.

  • Anonymous

    What the hell is she wearing around her neck, she’s got her court nails, hair and skin tone neck brace, and where is the reporting on trayvon’s “lost property” in his backpack just prior to his shortcut through a secure neighborhood???

  • Reid Kennedy

    This is just a lose lose…Zimmerman’s life is ruined, Martin certainly did not do well. The DA still overcharged Zimmerman, and as a result, he will be found not guilty (imho). Should have gone with a surer thing, manslaughter or unlawful discharge of a fire arm. In any event, within 2 weeks of being found not guilty, the President will make a somber, almost tearful statement about how his son did not get the justice he deserved. The DOJ will then swoop in and file a federal civil rights suit against Zimmerman.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve told you this before. I don’t know why you want me to tell you again. Of course there is something wrong with killing you own child in the womb. But it is not a wrong in government’s jurisdiction, nor yours. It is a wrong the woman whom is exercising the right over her own body will have to pay. This is a historical change, and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Woman’s rights are here to stay. They, and only they, can decide to do with their own bodies. Anything else is nothing but government overreach.

  • Anonymous

    You talk from your limited experience and in complete lack of contact with the reality of the harsh social and economic oppression that is the condition of many black communities. It is not my belief nor hatred between races that haunts blacks in America (I am not talking about every black person; but there are statistical studies that show again and again that the black community keeps getting the short end of the stick: I do not generalize), but rather, a historical precedent of oppression which still profoundly affects the black sector of America. I can clearly see that you are one of those who confuse the problem form the start: the seed of hate in racism is not skin color, but the idea that the unequal current social conditions (which no one can deny) are the product of anything more than the historical precedent of, first, enslavement, and then, racial oppression. You want to put this behind and say: we’re all equal, and no one needs special help: guess what? I wish we were there, but not yet. One day, perhaps. But now, many many but many people, from all races, need a helping hand. You call them moochers. I call them victims of a system that crowns sporadic vultures gulping the whole animal down and punishes hard working people who get their daily crumbs if they are lucky.

  • Anonymous

    Are you for real? 

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, in spite of his retarded daughter’, Jeantel’s disregard for the truth.

  • Mr_TrueReality

    It will come down to closing arguments….Keep in mind, this is the middle of the trial.
    I predict Z will be aquitted or at most– found guilty of involuntary manslaughter-time served.

    Mr TR

  • Anonymous

    Fuck you NIGGERS!!!

  • Anonymous

    FUCK YOU NIGGER

  • Anonymous

    DIE NIGGER

  • Anonymous

    KILL YOURSELF NIGGER!!!

  • Anonymous

    NIGGERS SUCK!!!!

  • Anonymous

    NIGGERS SUCK!!!

  • Anonymous

    NIGGERS SUCK!!!!

  • Anonymous

    NIGGERS SUCK!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    NIGGERS SUCK!!!!

  • Anonymous

    NIGGERS SUCK!!!!

  • Anonymous

    NIGGERS SUCK!!!!

  • Mr_TrueReality

    Go make a real life for yourself buddy and keep that kind of racist bull Cr$% out of here!

  • Anonymous

    he is not being railroaded, he will probably get off. this is nothing new black people have died at the hands of others for years, an they get away with it. he racially profiled him. he was the judge, the jury, an the executioner. No one should have that much power. if he had not followed that boy. I gaurantee none of this would’nt have happen. If anyone is being railroaded its Trayvon Martin. God bless his family. There human too, contrary to what some believe 

  • Anonymous

    Please listen to the original, unredacted 911 call on YouTube. It says everything. This horrible killing could have been prevented had Zimmerman heeded the dispatcher’s advice to not pursue Martin. I wrote a lengthier comment in response to “mightguy” below.

  • Anonymous

    Listen to the first 911 call, the unredacted version, on YouTube. This says it all. I also posted a more detailed comment to “mightguy.” Sorry, it’s too long to re-write and when I copy/paste, the formatting goes way off.  

  • Anonymous

    I can not understand those who adamantly claim that Zimmerman was the stalker and perpetrator of the assault that followed, when evidence shows otherwise. Put yourself in zimmermans shoes please! His neighborhood was being sieged by robberies. People were frightened. People believed it was a matter of time before these home invasions became deadly as is the case in many home robberies. Trayvon was an unknown. Zimmerman knew everyone who lived in his community. What ‘watchman’ would have notice a suspious character walking close to the houses in his community and NOT gotten out to investigate?!! And if the time ever comes when someone walks up to you and for no reason other than watching you, fractures your nose,wrestles you to the ground smashing in your face mmi style, I would love to see ow you would react, especially when your fight or flight instinct kicked in.Zimmerman had to have been in a lot of pain as well as in shock.

  • landofaahs

    The point dear retard is that I am assuming you are personally against it because of the moral issue that it is murder. How you could possibly give support for murder based upon a woman’s right to choose is mental or moral compartmentalism that is mind boggling.

  • Anonymous

    You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. You generalize on the level of a professional. Tell me exactly why what I personally experienced was good for the black community or ANYONE. What does it teach someone that the very first thing that you want to consider by law is the color of their skin. It simply does not matter that there are sectors of our populace that continue to have problems and then to generalize that to slavery and something owed to them because of something that is over and gone long, long ago. There are also myriads of studies comparing the origin of blacks and economic productivity in this country. Why is it that the blackest of the black peoples, Haitians and Dominicans, are, overall, enjoying the American dream? Don’t tell me…you think it’s because of their “cute” accent, right? I’ve already heard that lowlife argument. The fact of the matter is that every one of the many African Americans I know who have become successful did so through qualities that apply equally without regard to race. No matter how many “programs” have been used to try to elevate the black community, it has not helped. The problem has worsened. So what is your solution? Only to assume more of the same: more money, more excuses, more rewards the more broken the home. The black community has the only capability to pull themselves out of poverty, crime, fatherless and all the other problems that plague that community. They do not need a pat on the head from white America. The continued paternalistic attitude of the left makes it clear that they (and I directly include you in this statement) believe that the color of one’s skin somehow makes them less. THAT is true racism.

  • Anonymous

    I feel heartsick over this case. I don’t see justice for Zimmerman. I see half of America believing the lies CNN told. Even though cnn was found to tamper with the 911 audio to make Zimmerman say what he didn’t..Americans cling to the deception that Trayvon was an innocent kid simply walking ome to is dad’s. Trayvons social networking tells a completely different side to Trayvon. And then there is Zimmerman had no business following trayvon forgetting that zimmermans community was robbed once a week, neighbors were frightened and felt it a matter of time before it became deadly. Trayvon was unknown and acting suspiously when Zimmerman saw him. He had every right to watch and observe trayvon under the circumstances. There is absolutely no justification for trayvon to attack and injure an innocent man. I can not believe had it been another, they would have reacted differently. I can imagine the shock and pain zimmermna felt after is nose was broken and he found himself flat on is back with a 6ft.1 kid straddling him reining down martial art blows upon is face. Trayvon was violent and vicious and unjust in his assault on Zimmerman.

  • Anonymous

     He should be f in the as for good 20 year…what a little coward of a bitch…..we will get him and their nothing you idiot can do to protect this racist piece of shit.

  • Anonymous

     That because your wife love black dick, she know the diffident between a man and a child

  • Anonymous

     you would only say this as you hid like the little bitch you are..coward..
    You would never have the pussy to say this in public to a black men…we would fuck you up…them make you suck our cock…we know you are really in to that. see you soon…open wide

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, that would still be a major win for the prosecution. In Florida, the law states that there is no differentiation between voluntary and involuntary manslaughter. Additionally, the state was careful to charge him with 2nd degree murder of a CHILD (sorry about the caps, there’s no way on these posts to include italicization). This carries additional penalties, meaning that a conviction of manslaughter carries a mandatory sentence of 25 years to life in prison, virtually the same as 2nd degree murder. In fact, it might be better for him to be convicted of 2nd degree murder as the sentencing is by recommendation, not by mandate.
    His only hope is to be exonerated. The self defense statute and “stand your ground” hurdles for the state are actually quite high. But there is no guarantee that a jury consisting of only six women is going to buy the argument that this was completely self defense since he could have simply allowed the police to handle the situation. In my opinion, this is a foolish viewpoint, as it is rare that the police respond in a timely manner to ANY call. They simply don’t have enough people or resources to make that a realistic expectation. He knew that, having worked with the police through his neighborhood watch group many times.
    The state seems to have done a very poor job of preparation as nearly every witness has backfired on them. The same has happened with their forensics. They are simply overreaching much, much further in this case because of the media circus. But it may still work if they can make a charge of manslaughter stick, especially with the additional penalties applying to that charge when it is coupled with an indictment that is coupled with “of a child”.

  • Anonymous

    I have. I have also listened to the testimony and I’ve studied the law. You’re assuming that the 911 operator had the authority to tell him to stay in his car and because of that, he should be convicted. That is not the case, nor is the law on your side in your contentions. It’s pure foolishness to expect that the police will be able to respond in time to stop every situation and the 911 operator is not an “official”. It’s always easy to assume that your limited “investigation is all you should have to do to weigh in on this kind of claim, but perhaps a little study would be in order. Neither the law nor reality is on your side.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, it was MSNBC, but I agree with much of what you said. And CNN is little better. They’re only a LITTLE less prone to create news through lies.

  • Anonymous

    Did you actually read what I wrote?  All I was saying is that the situation COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. Could have, as in, POSSIBLY. My comments had absolutely nothing to do, nor did I state, that the 911 operator had the authority to tell him to stay in his car. Moreover, I never implied that the police are able to respond to every situation. However, in this case, they WERE able to respond - they were already on their way.

    Based on today’s testimonies alone, some of GZ’s statements, as well as previously believed “facts” in the case, no longer hold as much water. Even the lead detective, Serino, who previously seemed to support the neighborhood watch-hero-wannabe, retracted on several issues today.

  • Anonymous

    You are one sick puppy. Why don’t you crawl back under the rock you slithered out from and leave the comments to those with an IQ higher than that of a moron.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe, but it doesn’t change the fact that the prosecution has not yet presented the case in a coherent fashion that fully supports their theory enough to overcome reasonable doubt. The fact of the matter is that Serino testified and also the interviewing officer that they both believed, based on their investigations, that he was telling the truth. Additionally, Serino’s testimony that he was pressured into charging the case as murder or anything at all occurred because of severe pressure from fellow, senior officers and the prosecuting attorney’s office. Their “star” witness lied repeatedly. The forensics do not support the prosecution’s case. I have no idea how the jury will vote, but the state’s case is extremely weak and a large amount of the testimony from key witnesses has described attempts on the part of the prosecution to frame the evidence in the worst possible light, withholding evidence, and pushing evidence far beyond what is reasonable. Legally, it doesn’t clear the hurdles in their path.

  • Anonymous

     
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  • Rotciv skcus

    FLAGGED.  Liberal  intellect on display.

  • Anonymous

    Only right-wing idiot think it was a good ideal for Zimmerman to kill and unarmed teenage coming from the store after the police had ask Zimmerman not to confront Travon…But this does not matter because right-wing nut are all about seeing minorities kill at the hand of white or won’t to be white racist… it does not matter what the trial outcome is…Zimmerman is history

  • Anonymous

    right wing coward killing unarmed teenagers……what big men they are….

  • Rotciv skcus

    You’re a leftist moron making death threats on the internet.

    FLAGGED

  • Rotciv skcus

    Zimmerman is a Hispanic liberal.  You’re the killers.

  • Anonymous

    Only conservative think when you point out that Zimmerman  will pay do they think murder…To response to the idiot that think Zimmerman is a lib is is not…we know he is Hispanic but he wishes he was white..
    IT always been the case when it cone to white racist conservative, they are coward at there root.
    They ned a gun or a group of thier tostand up again a minority or in the case of Zimmerment he killed and unarmed teenage, on his way home form the store with Ice-tea and skittles…
    What a coward, what a little bitch this sound like some bitch ass racist tactic.

  • Guest

    You made the death threats in one of your other posts, remember?

    You’re a liberal idiot.

  • Guest

    “They better find him guilty……or we will find him and pronounce our own guilty verdict on the spot.”

    Sounds like a death threat to me.

  • Guest

    You’re a sick little liberal pervert.

  • Anonymous

    How do you figure this to be so….just because… i point out he would pay one way or another…this is not a death threat it pointing out many people think he should pay  for what he has done…I would note kill him base on my fail but i might kick his ass…

  • Anonymous

    that not a death threat…..that pay back..who said we would kill him….he just will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life…..

  • Guest

    You couldn’t kick your sisters ass. Try it tomorrow while you’re in the playground.

    You’re an ignorant liberal moron.

  • Guest

    Sounds like a death threat to me little boy. Keep your liberal ignorance going, it’s very amusing.

  • Anonymous

    You have know i deal how sick and twisted i am.. product of the US Goverment

  • Guest

    Your also ignorant and uneducated. Typical liberal.

  • Anonymous

     thank you..that the nice thing a conservative has said to me in a while…thank you

  • Rotciv skcus

    You’re the product of your own lack of intelligence.

  • Anonymous

    That we  because you has a backward redneck up-bring……

  • Anonymous

    This come from a group of thinker that believe the earth is 5000 years old

  • Guest

    What’s a “redneck up-bring……” LMAO You can’t really be this stupid, can you?

  • Guest

    So you think the earth is 5,000 years old? Interesting.

  • Anonymous

    We are talking about lib’s and a conservative…what was the last technology that a conservative introduced to the world…..nothing

  • Anonymous

    no that right-wing rednecks

  • Guest

    No, that’s you. You said it. You think space aliens built the pyramids.

  • Anonymous

     Liberty University: “If it’s really true that the museum at Liberty
    University has dinosaur fossils which are labeled as being 3,000 years
    old, then that is an educational disgrace. It is debauching the whole
    idea of a university, and I would strongly encourage any members of
    Liberty University who may be here, to leave and go to a proper
    university

  • Guest

    So you flunked out of Liberty University. Figures.

  • Anonymous

    Why do you keep supporting a political philosophy that causes more harm than it does good. This is just

  • Guest

    What philosophy is that? Give me some specifics.

  • Guest

     Spoken like a true democrat.

  • Guest

     You liberals are really into this sort of unintelligent banter.  How proud of your lack of intellect and social graces you must be.

  • Guest

     Another example of your bias and ignorance. The trial isn’t over, but you have someone who could be perfectly innocent in a justifiable self defense shooting just because the libs say it should be, and because you are a racist..

  • Guest

     A dope dealing smoking teenager attacks the neighborhood watchman and you expect him to not defend himself? If it happened to you, you would pee your pants and scream and cry like a little girl.

  • Guest

     No, it is YOU who sounds like” a little bitch this sound like some bitch ass racist tactic.” Your ignorance is blatant. Go sign up for an ESL class.

  • Guest

     Time to email Becks about this guy.  He has made threats and that is illegal. Hey, everyone, go to the contact page and send a notice to Beck with a c/p of  LIB4EVER’s posts and threats. TIME TO BAN THIS JERK.

  • Guest

     Yes, you are a good little Obama worshipper.. gimee gimmee gimmee

  • Guest

     Just because you dropped out of school in second grade doesn’t mean you have to remain ignorant the rest of your life.

  • Guest

     You don’t even know what a redneck is. LMAO

  • Guest

     Mobile phone electricity, polio vaccine, OMG there is no end to it. You are such an idiot!

  • Guest

     Define red neck and explain why you think a red neck is a right winger. You don’t even know what a red neck is and how they got the name. I will give you a hint if you can’t provide this info and it will  help you put your head back up your ass. You don’t have a clue about red necks.

  • Guest

     Back up your claims and accusations. It is you who  keeps supporting a political philosophy that causes more harm than it does good.

  • Anonymous

    Why is it that conservatives constantly trying to emphasize the lack of intelligence a liberal. When in reality it’s the conservatives that are constantly living in the past spewing yesterdays social resurrects. All we have to do, is take a look at the GOP’s political platform to examine intelligence. Anti-women, anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-Jewish, anti-environmental, anti-progressive with an emphasis with trying to label those who disagree with your ideology anti-American…. when was the last time conservatives contribute a single new idea that further enhanced life for everyday citizens…
    it’s not about greed, destruction or self gratification conservatives do not want anything to do with.
    Please excuse me, I forgot one very important point… conservatives are anti-children, right-wing conservatives have done everything in their power to reduce eliminate programs for children wherever possible..

  • Guest

     Spoken like another true Democrat.

  • Guest

     If you believe that then you are dumber than a box of rocks.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s take a look at your suggestions regarding my comment… mobile phone was neither invented by conservative nor was the ability of the technology to be used widespread. By the masses we also emphasize that sell became popular due to the ability for them to port will we call in the industry killer app. We also understand that most of this technology derived from one the most liberal bastions of thought…( Silicon Valley Northern California ) electricity and the polio vaccine were invented more than 100 years ago and 70 years ago… what I was talking about was current day contributions that would be in the last 40 years.. nice try a back Internet

  • Anonymous

    Well prove me wrong.. it’s easy to spew simple one line statements… give me an example of a Republican or conservative policies that have aided anyone other than a self-centered egotistical warmongers that only want to profit from the misfortunes of others.
    I wouldn’t dare to to say that Democratic politicians are much better than their Republican counterparts. But at least they’re not intentionally trying to harm those less fortunate economically and socially than themselves.

    Give me an example of conservative policy that have aided African Americans in the last 25 years.

  • Guest

     Consertvatives don’t have to emphasize the lack of intelligence of liberals. It is evident.
    “conservatives are anti-children” not true, they give birth to, raise and educate children. hey also try to preserve the lives of children, while liberals will kill them without a second thought just to serve their own self interests.
     
    “anti-women, anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-Jewish, anti-environment…blah blah blah ” this is all garbage – left wing twistifications and false talking points. I see they have you well brainwashed. If you ever need a heart transplant, thank a conservative for developing the procedure. There are too many inventions to name that were contributions of conservatives. 80+% of doctors, surgeons etc are conservatives. next time you go to one, be sure to tell him you are a liberal progressive.

  • Guest

     Prove they are trying to harm those less economically fortunate. The civil rights programs passed to benefit black Americans were championed by Republicans… Eisenhower – the civil rights act for one, and there are more. The Democrats tried to block every piece of civil rights legislation that was introduced. Google it. Do some homework instead of swallowing the spoon fed crap the left has been feeding you.

  • Guest

     Total BS – prove it.

  • Guest

     Sure it was – go do your homework. By all means tell us who the liberals/Democrats who have contributed anything meaningful, and what it was.

  • Anonymous

    Was that the best that you had, the same old abortion rhetoric. Will is look at who does more killing of children… over the past 20 years conservative states have continued lowering the age where children can be tried as adults and sentenced to death in many cases. We’ve had the proliferation of handguns and assault rifles in the streets of America.. the Republicans and his supporters have done little to try and curb gun violence by enacting sensible restriction on the sale resale and purchase of handguns and assault rifles. Since 1989 United States has been one constant state of war. Both of these conflicts were correct result a Republican political policy.
    So explain to me if at all possible, for Republicans support the sanctity of life other than on a postcard and a political slogan for their dumb ass, idiotic supporters that actually believe somehow someway if they believe hard enough they to may benefit from the darkness that is known as the conservative right wing movement in United States.

  • Anonymous

     Please tell me that we are talking about the same century…. we are talking about the last four years not the last 400 years….. and by the way Johnson was a Democrat from Texas was the one that championed and pass through the civil rights amendment one and two…. get your facts right.. let me make this easy for you what has the Republican Party done for any minority group in the past 30 years

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like you’re finally something the truth behind the lies… just let it go, move away from the dark side and embrace the light…..

  • Guest

     More BS  and unsupported claims.
     
    Liberals have killed millions of babies. The only time they consider an unborn baby to be a human being is when one is killed by someone who attacks/kills it’s mother. That is the only time an unborn is human to a lib – if the lib wants it. If she doesn’t it is just a mass of cells, even though it’s heart is beating and it could survive outside the womb….. millions.
     
    Don’t bother me anymore with your crap unless you are ready to substantiate it.

  • Anonymous

    Well with Democrats that reformed the Montgomery G.I. Bill to the post-9/11 the idle for military members. This allowed hundreds of thousands of men and women to go will you charge with the generous living allowance/Stiffen. it was the Democrats out loud federal extensions of up to 99 weeks for long-term unemployed during this economic hardship which was caused by many of the Bush administration policies. We also have the current push for socialized health care and historians look back at this period of time they will emphasize the forward thinking a president Obama regarding health care reform in United States.

  • Anonymous

    So what you’re telling me it’s that 100% of all abortions are carried out against Democratic women and not conservative women.. even though your numbers of millions are absolutely far-fetched at best. But one should not serve when it comes to abortions is this. Even if these children were born there would be little if no social support when it comes to feeding clothing and housing these children. Why is this because your so-called Republican Party has done everything in its power to reduce aid for dependent women…. there’s nothing worse than a right-wing conservative abortion hypocrite… you don’t care about these children you just like to say it that way it makes you feel good deep inside. The truth of the matter is you could care less about the killing of minority children.. to you a dead black child brings a warm smile to your face and a tingle to your soul. If you care so much about our children to why don’t you do something about gun violence in the collaboration of illicit drugs and the lack of employment opportunities that would make all the difference….
    I’ll tell you why these things don’t come to mind when talking about abortion because you label these things as welfare handout or socialist policies from the liberal left…
    let’s not kid ourselves you could care less about abortion is just a talking point for you….

  • Rotciv skcus

    Who’s writing your stuff, your Momma? You couldn’t write this if your life depended on it.

  • Rotciv skcus

    Who’s writing your stuff, your Momma? You couldn’t write this if your life depended on it. Did she come home and find you using here computer?

  • Guest

    libals kild 50 miliun babyies…why you hate litle babyies…liberl…

  • Guest

    libals kild 50 miliun babyies…why you hate litle babyies…liberl…now

  • Guest

    libals kild 50 miliun babyies…why you hate litle babyies…liberl…you kil many

  • Guest

    libals kild 50 miliun babyies…why you hate litle babyies…liberl…killer left

  • Anonymous

    Wow “diffident?” Iz so impressed wid your edumucation, where’d you get learned? I bet yurz mom and teach is so proud of yur D report card cuz you pazzed, Man youz so Kool! Dumb ass go to school, learn grammar and spelling, get a job and stop asking for handouts. I bet if Trayvon had stayed in school he’d have learned some useful stuff; like how not to get SHOT!

  • Anonymous

    Actually if you listen to the call they said “we don’t NEED you to do that” they didn’t tell him not to. Just like the Navy didn’t NEED me on submarines but I volunteered because it was where I could best serve. Mr. Zimmerman thought it best to help as much as he could. And let me ask you this, since when is following someone grounds to have your head bashed in? as soon as Travyon laid a hand on him Zimmerman had every right to use lethal force to defend himself. Thank you George for exercising your second amendment right to bear arms and your God given right to self defense. I feel for the family but not for trayvon he paid the price for his actions. I hope Mr. Zimmerman recieves a fair trial but lets face it; in this country if you arent black you dont get any rights anymore.  

  • Anonymous

    This is a witch hunt nothing more. We’ve gone back to the days of the Salem witch trials. This isn’t the country I served to defend anymore. Stop letting the large federal government take your  constitutional rights away! Fight back America! Support the Second Amendment, and support states rights over “Big Brother”

  • Anonymous

    Zimmerman will never get any rest………what a racist coward, he shoot and unarmed teenager…I would love to beat the shit out of this fat bitch..Zimmerman….fuck the beck-heads

  • Anonymous

    If you read my posts, you’ll see that I specifically mention the fact that the dispatcher said “We don’t need you to do that.” I am 100% for the Second Amendment and defending yourself, but when you are in hot pursuit of someone who had not committed any crime and you don’t have the intelligence to identify yourself (in this case, neighborhood watch CAPTAIN) to the person you’re pursuing, this was a tragedy that did not need to happen. Greta Van Susteren went to see the site and she said it’s pitch black.

  • Lonnie King

    trevon martin was just another afro american that should had been sitting home eating a bucket of kfc and drinking a 40 ounce of colt 45. instead he decided to walk to the convienience store with  a 40 cal pistol and probably stold it from his neighbors house. if obama wanted a son like trevon then he should had adopted him. the only reason he made that comment was to get the african tribes all accross america to riot. if trevon had not been killed my a mexican a white man would had eventually took the honor and did it. so lets pay omage to little boo hoo trevon hopefully they recovered the bullet from him the cost of ammo it can be reused thanks to obamas ammunition shortage. he cant do nothing about our gun rights so he trys to screw with the ammo. but his gun laws were not strict enough for poor trevon since he likes to carry one illegally.

  • klm1279

    I know I’m not alone here, though not a single person in the media has suggested it, but I think Lil’ skittles was actually going to burglarize one of those homes. Maybe that day or he was scoping it out for later. He was suspended for possessing 20 pieces of women’s jewelry and a tool for “breaking in” and he was in an area of the school he wasn’t supposed to be. The Martin camp claims it was for traces of pot in a bag…nonsense. They also have recovered evidence of deleted messages of him discussing a firearm transaction. I’m pretty sure he didn’t possess an FFL and he is too young to legally own a firearm so somewhere down the road that said firearm was stolen. I believe it is reasonable to assume someone who possesses stolen property, deals stolen property and carries the tools of the trade, is a thief. I know this is not evidence either way, but

  • Schoonover Peter

    As near as I can figure George Zimmerman should have let Trayvon beat his brains in on the side walk because it would have just been the right thing to do.  Trying to be politically correct in today’s world will not solve problems. they only get solved when we look at them honestly. People will not be nervous around black men when black men start acting like and dressing like the rest of society.  The President may not like that and they claim the will have to give up their unique  black identity, but middle class jobs and life style is the reward of acting middle class.  Blacks in suits and dressed like construction workers are not looked at, or even noticed, 99 percent of the time. 

  • Hiphop BrwnCrwns

    so whats the problem? white civilization is a “culture” if you want to call it that – of CREEPY AS CRACKERS Creepy as Cracker Woodbecker. 

  • Anonymous

    I have read some of these posts  and am very saddened  at the fact that this has turned into race. It is a shame that people can’t see past the facts. Fact 1: Zimmerman sees Trayvon. Fact 2: thinks he looks suspicious. Fact 3: He calls the police. Fact 4: the police tell him to stop following the 17 yr old they have an officer on the way. Fact 5: Zimmerman disregards  dispatch follows the teen anyway. Fact 6: Zimmerman approaches the 17 yr old with the intention that the teen has a gun knife whatever when in fact the teen was only carrying a frigging drink and some damned skittles. Fact 7: Trayvon did not cause the encounter the altercation or ask to get shot and killed. He was walking home from one parent to the other minding his business. Fact 8: and probably the most important one of all had Zimmerman listened to the dispatch and stopped trying to play hero for no good reason the 17 yr old would most likely still be alive. He says that Trayvon was smashing his head in the ground and this is why he shot him. He forgets that had he followed orders and backed off and allowed the real police do their job the ones that are skilled in doing so there would not be a family morning their son brother cousin grandson nephew and the teen would not have had his life cut short. I don’t care if his whole neighborhood hates white people it has nothing to do with the facts. and the facts are plain as day Zimmerman saw Trayvon thought he looked suspicious disregarded the authorities orders and the end result is a teen that was minding his own business is dead. Plain and simple. end of story. He should have been giving a 30 to life sentence. I am disgusted that the race card was ever used at all. I shake my head in disbelief.