Brace yourself: Zimmerman verdict could unleash chaos

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The George Zimmerman trial continues to move forward despite a bizarre series of witness testimonies and strange tactics from both the prosecution and the defense. So what happens if Zimmerman gets off scott free? On radio this morning, Glenn explained he believes things could get really ugly.

“The Zimmerman case is one of the most amazing cases that I have ever seen in my life,” Glenn said. “First of all, he’s been deemed a ‘white man’ when he’s as white as the president is. He’s a Hispanic.”

Glenn explained that as fair as the American justice system is in comparison to other countries, there will always be injustice because man is inherently flawed.

“Look, we have to be really frank. As you will see this week on TheBlaze and we will try to bring more stories to you just about this museum that we are putting together here in the Mountain West for the independence week, America has been a place of great and grand injustice, just like every country and every land in the history of the planet because man is flawed. Man, natural man, is an enemy of God,” Glenn explained. “Unless we have justice and a court system, where justice is blind, and it doesn’t look at a last name. It doesn’t look at a color. It doesn’t look at anything but the facts, that you take the name and you take the color of the skin, you take everything off except the facts and justice looks at those facts and says, ‘Guilty/not guilty,’ and it has nothing to do with your station in life. That’s what’s made us different.”

Our country was founded with a moral compass rooted in God, but we have stopped looking for that immovable compass point.

“We have stopped looking up, we have stopped looking for that immovable compass point because we now believe in social justice and collective salvation as opposed to individual salvation because we no longer believe in merit anymore,” Glenn continued. “Civil rights exist. It’s called the Bill of Rights and they belong to all men, all men because all men are created equal and endowed by their creator, with certain things that you cannot change, ever, no man can change because they are given by God. And those rights are simple.”

Those rights include the freedom of speech, religion, assembly, self-protection, etc. They are simple and straightforward and protected by the Constitution, but lately it feels like we have failed at protecting these rights too many times.

“They were all protected by the Constitution. And we have failed so many times. Are we now going to fail our last great test? Are we going to fail? Are we really going to, while we’re saying we’re an enlightened group of people, go back to the animals that natural man really is and tear each other apart over race or power or greed,” Glenn asked. “Yes. I’m afraid so many would answer yes because they have forgotten the other point in the sky that was a compass point. Vengeance is mine, says the Lord. There are too many that want vengeance because they believe in collective salvation. Because they believe that they can dish out vengeance, they can dish out judgment and justice. And so we make our justice system a joke.”

In Zimmerman’s case, Glenn believes he has been the victim of ‘guilty until proven innocent’ instead of ‘innocent until proven guilty.’

“I don’t know anything about Zimmerman, but I do know this: The guy’s getting railroaded,” Glenn said. “They convicted him the day this happened. They convicted him of the greatest crime in America today, the first time he committed was not killing a black man. His first crime was being white, even though he’s not white. He suddenly became a Caucasian. Hispanics, listen up. They’ll turn on you the second it’s to their advantage because they don’t believe in true justice. They believe in vengeance. They believe in power. They believe in greed. They believe in all those things that do not come from God. They do not believe in equal justice. They believe in special justice. And if you stand in the way… or because they believe in the collective, your life isn’t worth anything to them if they can use you to make a greater point for the collective. You have to break a few eggs. And this Hispanic is an unfortunate egg that needs to be broken. And MSNBC is now saying there’s little hope that he’s going to be convicted. Excuse me? There’s little hope that he’s going to be convicted? Who is hoping for him to be convicted if the evidence shows he’s not guilty?”

“And MSNBC, they know exactly what they’re doing. This is not 2004 anymore, when so many Americans were lost and didn’t know what they were talking about… This is 2013. Our country is at stake. Our children are at stake. This isn’t hyperbole. You know in the year 2000 when we were back and forth on Al Gore and we were talking about laws, are we going to stay with laws or not? But nobody’s life was at stake. The republic, it was hyperbole then to say the republic is at stake,” he continued. “But gang, we’re at the end. And unless we stand for unmovable truths, just those truths that are immovable and eternal, whether you like them or not, they’re eternal and immovable. Unless we stand for those we don’t like, if they’re wrong, we have to stand with them. You may be for Trayvon Martin, but if the facts come out and say Zimmerman did it in self‑defense… I don’t like Zimmerman. I don’t like him. I mean, he was out in the night and he’s patrolling. He seems like an egomaniac. He’s doing stuff I wouldn’t do and I wouldn’t want my neighbor to do. But if he’s not guilty, you don’t condemn him. And if they don’t condemn him, what’s going to happen? This guy’s life is ruined forever! Forever! Aren’t we becoming everything we despise? The only way to stop it is to be for blind justice.”

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    It will unleash violence across the nation, that is what Obama wants, what he needs, and thus his followers and cronies will ensure it happens so he can impose marital law and confiscate firearms and round up ‘undesirable enemies of the state’

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Understand clearly – no matter the outcome his life, and that of his family is finished; he will always be a marked man, as will the jurists and the defense attorneys and their families.

  • landofaahs

    The riots would be just the normal excuse for ghetto trash to tear things up and break into stores and steal stuff.  Another wonderful example of a thug culture.

  • landofaahs

    They will probably riot no matter what happens.  They look for excuses to break other peoples stuff and steal what they don’t break.  The thug beat down culture.  I don’t recall them rioting when OJ got off.

  • landofaahs

    If the facts fit you must acquit.  There are no facts I have seen that indicate anything but self defense on Zimmerman’s behalf.  But I would not care one way or the other because it’s really not my concern.  That is for the folks in Florida to determine and outsiders like me should stay out of it.

  • landofaahs

    Zimmerman is a cracker and Treyvon is toast.

  • Carol Waltman

    I know it will.  I worked at a place last elections that had many African Americans and if Mitt had won there was going to be chaos.  So of course it is going to happen because everyone is a victim

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    You sound good GB, but the reality is that this country’s worst stain still racism in many ways. We have improved since the Civil Rights movement, but we still have a long way to go until Justice is finally blind. How you explain the super high rate of blacks and hispanics in jail in comparison with whites . . . the facts are there to be seen. But, some people out there will continue to say things like . . . blacks and hispanics are more leaning towards crime and violence. However, in my State, almost 80% of sex offenders are whites and that does not mean whites are more leaning to sexual violence. So, do your research more effective and then we talk . . .

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    First, Zimmerman is of mix-race and I have never heard him speaking Spanish, so I dont want to judge his Hispanic heritage and involvement with the Hispanic community in the Orlando/Sanford area, but clearly his words said otherwise. His words tell the story of someone who showed hatred, misconceptions, and predijuice for blacks and that’s a fact. I don’t know if he is guilty or not, the Court will decide that, but if he had followed the recommendations of the Police when he called about this young kid wondering in his neighborhood this incident has never had happen and the family of Treyvon could be celebrating the 4th of July today. Justice will come at the end, but only God knows what really happen, cause Treyvon is not here to give his side of the story and that’s the sad part.

  • Gadamer too:

    Your post sounds pretty racist. You have Zimmerman convicted because you saw hatred in him but failed to see Trayvon’s own hatred for whites “Crazy azz, white Cracker”.

    Trayvon, a noted bulked up brawler chose to confront Zimmerman instead of going home.You are what’s wrong in this country.

  • Anonymous

     I would posit that this is what the media wants everyone to believe. If it happens, it’s because the media has agitated for the rioting. Most of the local demonstrations have been a couple of dozen people, max, cleverly filmed to look like more. 

    It’s amazing the bias in the reporting from even our local outlets here in the Orlando/Sanford…..despite the case’s facts.  They have an anti-gun meme they’re pushing. It’s that, more than race for them.

  • Anonymous

    Will roving gangs of activist whites start riots if Zimm is found guilty ?   That would be interesting.  The media would say they were all Republican, Tea Party, Christians who were all racist.

  • Gadamer too:

    Never happen.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    Like he said. Love the name by the way. :)

  • Gadamer too:

    YUP. :-) What goes around comes around. LOL

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    I can see it now since all the racist groups on the left side of the aisle where trying to paint him as the anti-Christ I am sure we are going to see riots in the regular places.

  • Anonymous

    If there are riots CNN, FOX, MSNBC etc etc are to blame along with Al Sharpton and the other racists.

    If there weren’t so much coverage of this, there wouldn’t be the unreasonable outrage. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hopeless for the black minority to realize that the Democratic Party uses them through the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpten.  I hope that the Hispanics do not fall for the Democratic Party lemonade like the black minority has.

  • Robert Starkand

    Glenn, I don’t understand why you said you don’t like George Zimmerman.  From what I could see, he gives a  lot to his neighbors.  He works as an auxillary watchman, he helps tutor disadvantaged children, he is humble before God.  You said he’s self-involved, I didn’t see that.  He’s on trial for murder and has been vilified by the media.  He’s being tried because of racial politics.  He’s called a white man still when he is obviously Hispanic.  I think if he had a Hispanic last name instead of a Jewish one, this wouldn’t be happening.  I don’t know enough about him to like or dislike him.  I believe him because of how beat up he was and therefore his action was self-defense with reasonable fear for his life.  For someone of your stature to say on national radio you don’t like the man sounds cruel and I don’t think you are a cruel man..  George Zimmerman is an average man trying to be a positive part of his community.  Certainly not someone to be vilified or denounced on national radio.  As tragic as it is for the Martin family, this event is traumatic for George Zimmerman and his family.  They will never be the same.

  • Jane grikstas

    I again was chosen for jury duty. I wrote back that I seek God in making decisions ecpeciaaly if it is someones life at stake. Again, i was told I was released from serving. See- our system is “keep God out of it” God is juge and He will pardon but He is going to judge our nation and rightly so.

  • Anonymous

    George Zimmerman is guy whose life has forever changed because he pulled the trigger.  It seems pretty obvious he caught a bad guy and got his butt kicked pretty bad.  Too bad they never show any current photos of the poor little black kid in a hoodie.  A lot of folks would take Martin for what is was, a thug.  This is a perfect example of self defense.  What would have happened if Martin beat Zimmerman to death?  We never would have even heard about it. Zimmerman should walk free, he has paid the price and will continue to do so for a long time to come.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Zimmerman should have reported the sighting of Trayvon Martin and that’s it, no following, we have a neighborhood watch where I live, no one follows, we just report and leave it up to the police, and they do a very good job!!  Had Mr Zimmerman got back in his vehicle and let the police handle it  like the dispatcher asked him to none of this would have happened. The young man would still be alive , I think Zimmerman deserves some sort of punishment, maybe short jail time, community service something of that sort, he’s caused a lot of grief and trouble by trying to act like a neighborhood thug instead of watchman!!

  • http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

    the media will be responsible for anyone injured in a riot, I’m talking to you Matthews and Sharpton

  • Theresa

    I agree with you fully Robert.  I’ve been watching the trial and I see nothing that would make me “dislike” him. I too am surprised that Glen said this.

  • Theresa

    From what I had heard, the reason he got out of his car was because he wanted to see the name of the cross street so he could relay to police where he was. I believe the cops were aware of a problem before the fight began.

  • Brian Johnson

    I got some unmovable truth for you Glenn, You’re a fucking idiot!
    All that talk about justice and not once did he mention the fact that a young man is dead and he wouldn’t be if Zimmerman was out playing cop with a loaded firearm. If people insist on their right to keep handguns then they got to be willing to take responsibility when they shoot somebody. If you shoot an unarmed person when you’re loosing a fist fight that you started, you should expect to go to jail.

  • Anonymous

    Plays right along with “top down, bottom up”. Perfect timing for Obama and his progressive minions don’t you think?

  • Theresa

    Jamie Foxx came out and said on national tv that if Zimmerman is found not guilty, his Bruthas should take to the streets, riot, loot, and set fires. How dare this POS incite a riot. If a white boy said this, he would be arrested already for just that!  I am sooooo sick of Hollywood, and spoiled black boys who hang on to their own racist bullshit. As Glen would say “He’s dead to me”.

  • Theresa

    I’d say you Brian are the fucking idiot here! Have you not been watching the trial?

  • Anonymous

    There was a day that I thought Jamie Foxx was funny. I once was blind but now I see. He hates America. I too am soooooo sick of people like him getting air time for spreading racist bullshit. Shame on the US media for giving them airtime to spread their crap.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, Zimmerman had plenty of experience dealing with police who don’t show up in time or who don’t show up at all. I know all about that. I live in a very nice neighborhood that has recently seen a spate of break-ins, vandalism, gang tagging and other property crimes. Recently, there were shots going off at the park behind our house at about 8:00 PM. Eight of us in the neighborhood called the police even as the shooting moved into the street in front of our homes. The police never came. We are forming our own neighborhood watch, now. We’ve learned the hard way that the police will not come or will come long after the danger has passed. Most of the time, they won’t even show up to take a report. We know we’re on our own…period. 

    I notice that you and all those who condemn George Zimmerman’s decision to follow Trayvon Martin ascribe absolutely no responsibility to Trayvon Martin. Why was it all right for him to turn and attack George Zimmerman when he was not in fear for his life, not provoked, and had not been threatened? Apparently, to you, if you’re in your own neighborhood and you decide to take a walk, if a young man suddenly decides to take a dislike to you walking on your street behind them, it’s your responsibility to keep him happy or you justify attack. Exactly how far back would you say would be justification for that young man to suddenly turn and attack you with no responsibility? According to you, this would be a completely justifiable action, so I’d like to hear your professional opinion as a neighborhood “watcher” as to the exact number of meters of space needed for justifying self defense. 

    It’s time to grow up. Trayvon Martin wrote his own death warrant when he decided to act on testosterone instead of thought. Obviously, he believed that he could get away with thuggery as a means of self expression. The fact that he was surprised that his prey would fight back is evidence of his deadly miscalculation. 

    It will be a cold day in hell before I give in to the thugs attempting to take over my neighborhood. They feel no fear whatsoever of the police and know that they could get away with nearly anything without consequence because the police WILL NOT COME. 

    Maybe you live in happy land. I don’t know, but I’ve about had it with the foolishness of jackasses who believe that people have no right to defend themselves, their neighborhoods and their property; that we have to wait for approval from “authorities”. Here’s some news for you…there’s no greater authority than a person defending their home, their property and their neighborhood. The police do not own your life, nor do they own your property or that of your neighbors. I do not need your, or anyone else’s permission to walk on the streets of my neighborhood, nor do I need or ask for your or anyone else’s permission to defend any of the above, with deadly force, if attacked. 

    You do whatever you want, Peanutlady, but the fact that you think that you’ve earned the right to condemn someone for an act as simple as walking behind someone and blame that person for the actions of the thug that attacks him…it shows that you aren’t really thinking at all. 

  • Jim Evans

    Let them riot!  Don’t we have cops and military with RIOT GEAR?  Didn’t the HHS buy billions of bullets?

  • az

    The jury will find him guilty of something, they are scared to death what people will do to them.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Exactly – never waste a perfectly good crisis, even if you have to manufacture one.

  • Brian Johnson

    Thank God! We need intelligent jurors who are capable of
    critical reasoning not delusional people making decisions from reading chicken entrails,
    tarot cards, Bronze Age astronomy or conversations with imaginary deities. I’m
    glad you’re not sitting on a jury and I’d be thrilled if you’d just kill
    yourself.

  • Canadianlady

    You’re absolutely right!  Hear, hear!

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    can see it now since all the racist groups on the left side of the
    aisle where trying to paint him as the anti-Christ I am sure we are
    going to see riots in the regular places.
     

  • Stephan Bruno

    But I don’t care if your skin’s red or tan or Chinese. 
    Zapp Branigan.

  • Mike Nelson

    Wow, how very original; you post under the name of AC/DCs lead singer and make an attack on someone’s Faith… what a pedestrian attempt at veiling your reference and pursuit of the ‘Highway to Hell’.

    I suspect you would also be thrilled by a bout of mild humidity.

    Thank you for showing us the full extent of your motivation, intellect, and guile in such a mercifully short post.

  • antithetical radical

    Brian, how on earth do you justify that escalation from a question to that kid giving him an MMA style beat-down? I suppose you were sleeping when the nature of the incident was being established in the court room. Well, thanks for your opinion but you really should pay more attention prior to jumping into your mouth up to the knees with your boots on. 

    Being asked what you are doing in a dark place does not justify beating the hell out of the person doing the questioning. I don’t care how you paint it, Travon escalated the incident willfully, and he got what comes to people who get out of control with violence. If it was you that got jumped on and beaten upon perhaps you would have just taken the beating, but most people I know would have done what ever it took to stop him, even if it meant shooting him point blank. 

    So far the state has failed to make their case, and it appears that Zimmerman will be acquitted. This was no murder, it was self defense and all you lefties are going to have to deal with the reality of that sooner or later. Prepare to have this made clear to you soon.

  • antithetical radical

    Of course he hasn’t, that much is clear.

  • Mike Nelson

    As long as you’re not a filthy Neutral? :)

  • antithetical radical

    Sorry, but Zimmerman did not commit any crime by asking Martin what he was doing after dark in his own, (Zimmerman’s), neighborhood. Simply asking him to explain his presence in a crime ridden area was not an invitation to be physically attacked by Martin. Martin did something really stupid, and if not up to no good, why beat the other man? No, Travon deserves no sympathy – he got more than he bargained for, but then it was his move that initiated the conflict. Too bad he chose the wrong guy to try to beat up – he picked a man armed and able to defend himself. There was no crime here except for the assault performed by Martin, he just ended up losing the fight.

  • Anonymous

    Well put!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Malcolm-Krause/100001263810852 Malcolm Krause

    Zimmer and a fair trial, there is nothing about this trial that will be fair for this defendent.   I’m surprised that obama haven’t brought out his opinion. I wouldn’t be surprised if Zimmer is found not guilty that Eric the moron holder would try to charge Zimmer. 
    Not all men are created equal (anymore)   If your white you are wrong and If your a white male then your a bastard. 
    Look at that piece of trash in Hollywood,  Jamie Fox  says stuff about killing all white people then he wears a trayvon shirt to the award show.  Would he speak out if Zimmer would have gotten his head beat in. Would Hollywood scream if zimmer would be 6ft under. No

  • Pamela Peltonen

    Let them riot and show who they are for all the world to see. Meanwhile, we must remain calm, loving, and peaceful.

  • Anonymous

    All this folks from a guy who wants to see Beck captured and his family raped, tortured and killed in the 1st degree Bry baby you are one fucked up punk .
    watch out your about to trip on that ignorance again .
             
                         Murder,Torture,Rape
         THIS GUY POSTED HIS WISH TO THE BECK FAMILY !!!
                   He is on thin ice on here piss him off watch the worm squirm .
         

  • Anonymous

    This dick calls for :

       THE CAPTURE OF THE BECK FAMILY
    RAPE ,TORTURE,AND MURDER IN THE 1st DEGREE
       WATCH HIM FLAG HIM HE IS BEING MONITORED
    VERY SICK INDIVIDUAL  !!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Not Guilty verdict results in major riots… Obama declares Martial Law… Suspends the Constitution… Think it could not happen… Stand by and watch… The Big “O” will stop at nothing to become a dictator… I.e. “Never let a crisis go to waste!!!!”…

  • Alex

     Please stop trying to incite people on either side.
    As much as I do not like him he did not say anything to encourage people to riot.
    Everyone should practice due diligence and make sure that what they put down is truth.
    otherwise we are no better than the liberals who spew hate at every opportunity.
    Thank you

  • bucketnutz

    Maybe they will all go back to their Hood and burn their own stores and homes like they did during the Rodney King stupidity

  • Anonymous

      “I don’t like Zimmerman. I don’t like him. I mean, he was out in the
    night and he’s patrolling. He seems like an egomaniac. He’s doing stuff I
    wouldn’t do and I wouldn’t want my neighbor to do. But if he’s not
    guilty, you don’t condemn him. And if they don’t condemn him, what’s
    going to happen? This guy’s life is ruined forever! Forever! Aren’t we
    becoming everything we despise? The only way to stop it is to be for
    blind justice.”

    I find these sentences to be of particular interest, Glenn. You espouse fairness and not to “condemn”. Does that mean everyone except you? I am a huge fan of yours but the double standard you display in these last few sentences bother me. You, Sir, do condemn him, all be it  via the back door. You have chosen to condemn him for apparently wanting to protect his property and the property of others by patrolling the neighborhood. Why, because there had been a rash of burglaries and house breaking incidences in the recent weeks leading up to the shooting. You may want to put a little more thought into your comments before you contradict yourself again.

    One more thing…the images the news outlets and others keep showing of Martin are pathetic. They show this “innocent” looking young man, when in fact, he was a tattooed malignant cancer on his community. He was not the sweet and cuddly little kid the media would like the public to believe he was.

  • Anonymous

    its interesting to see how totally racist Glenn Beck’s audience is. Not surprising, but interesting…

  • landofaahs

    I kinda follow Oprah on helping African Africans where they appreciate it more and where the need is greatest. They are ready to take care of themselves over in Africa if given a chance. To bad the democrat party who still try to enslave people don’t see it rightly. UR the racists. Your kind steal from the productive and give a crumb to the poor all the while you use the federal govt. to enrich your lazy plantation govt. ass. LOL

  • Anonymous

    How amusing that you spout off “facts” from the case as if you witnessed all the events firsthand. Maybe YOU should have been on the witness stand as the “star” witness. Your “facts” are all based SOLELY on what Zimmerman said. Period. Martin is not here to give his side of the story, so we don’t really know who attacked who first. The FACT is, Zimmerman pursued him, despite Martin NOT having committed any crime or wrongdoing. Zimmerman pursued someone who had not done anything wrong. You obviously are unable to comprehend this painfully simple fact. Zimmerman is not a truthful person, as the evidence more than shows. He’s a liar: He couldn’t remember the name of the main street in an area where he’s the neighborhood watch captain, AND, in a neighborhood with just 3 streets? This fact alone speaks for itself.

    Even more amusing is your ridiculous assumption that those of us who do not believe many of Zimmerman’s statements don’t ascribe any responsibility to Martin. What a preposterous statement! There is NO CONCRETE EVIDENCE that Martin attacked Zimmerman first. None whatsoever. Additionally, based on the recordings, it is evident that Zimmerman was acting out of sheer disdain for Martin, even BEFORE he got out of his car. Regardless of whether there were prior robberies by blacks in the neighborhood, Martin was not involved in those robberies and HE DID NOT HAVE ANY PREVIOUS CRIMINAL RECORD. Just because he used inappropriate language means absolutely nothing. (Did you hear how many times they had to bleep Zimmerman’s angelic words?) If you could be convicted for a crime based on bad language, half of our population would be considered criminals and be in jail.

    If someone attacks someone, do I think the person shouldn’t fight back? Of course they should protect themself!  I wouldn’t think twice about protecting myself!  Another ridiculous assumption on your part. And do you think that we can’t call Martin a thug if we believed he so merited such a label? You don’t know me or anyone else you’re looking down your nose at to throw out such foolhardy comments. Just take people’s comments as they’re stated and don’t get on your high horse and inject your own presumptions into them. You don’t know me and my background enough to even begin to do that.

    You said that I need to grow up? I think it’s time for YOU to grow up and learn some critical thinking based on something called “FACTS.” It might even behoove you to look up the definition of the word.
     

  • Anonymous

    Yes, in a neighborhood of only 3 streets, the captain of the neighborhood watch, Zimmerman, didn’t know the name of the street he was on. Such credibility.

  • Anonymous

    GLENN SOMETIMES YOU PUT YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH.  SAYING THAT YOU DON’T LIKE ZIMMERMAN, SEEING THE FACTS EVOLVE IN THIS TRIAL ABOUT THIS MAN, I’M HISPANIC OR PUERTO RICAN  BUT I CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE A FULL FLEDGE AMERICAN.  WHAT THE LIBERAL MEDIA HAS DONE TO THS MAN IS SO UNAMERICAN.
    I HOPE THEY FIND HIM INNOCENT, BECAUSE HE IS INNOCENT.

    SAM T.

  • Anonymous

    Its amazing how racist some of you are.

  • Anonymous

    That could be the case but after the riots in L.A. when I lived there our fellow American who are always called BLACKS and i’m white by the way if that matters at all.
    Our fellow Americans were chastised very hard after the riots came to terms with there stupidity as you say.
    Those people said the races will always be divided and to be forewarned that there will most definitely be riots in this countries future and for us making them out as stupid they awoke and said whitey is correct we were very stupid, next time even if it’s to be 50yrs in the future it will not be there neighborhoods that burn .
    Take that very seriously they said what else do we have to loose but life it’s self
    be careful what you mock I lived it and it gets horrible fast very fast.
    God bless have a wonderful Independence day .

  • Anonymous

    We have all seen your racist rants don’t ever forget that Bruno the racist !
     YOU DO CARE
    This is what happens when you find out you are but  a liar and reality is yours.

  • Anonymous

    It’s amazingly how sad that is in this day in age !
    I wish you a very safe and happy Independence day God bless you and yours !!!

  • Anonymous

    You’re absolutely right. Regardless of whether Zimmerman’s excuse of self-defense will be proven or not, he is the source of the problem by his hot pursuit of someone who had done NOTHING wrong. Many of the “facts” being thrown out on these posts are based solely on Zimmerman’s statements. Zimmerman applied to be a policeman in Virginia and also shadowed a police force. Did he so want to apprehend a “criminal” to show that he was worthy of being a policeman? Possibly so. I will say it again: In the first 911 call, the dispatcher told him several times that the police were already on their way, and you’re right, they properly advised him NOT to follow Martin. The police should have assessed the situation. THEY are the professionals TRAINED to handle such a situation – NOT the neighborhood watch captain (Zimmerman) who didn’t even know the name of the main street in his little neighborhood of 3 streets. Would I want this type of neighborhood watch person or captain in MY neighborhood? HECK, NO!!!

  • Anonymous

    They better find him guilty……or we will find him and pronounce our own guilty verdict on the spot.

  • Anonymous

    I so hope someone beat the shit out of Beck

  • Anonymous

    Bring your skittles and your hoodie, asshole!

  • Anonymous

     Glen is just another racist with a show for white bigoted conservative..What a coward glen and his follower are..

  • Anonymous

    I am in complete agreement with you. It is amazing how people have taken Zimmerman’s testimony as the truth. Renegade, cop-wannabe Zimmerman is at the very root of this entire, horrible incident by taking things into his own hands.

  • greywolfrs

    That’s rich, pot meet kettle, dunce.

  • greywolfrs

    Just like a coward left winger, always wanting someone else to do your dirty.

  • greywolfrs

    Please, try it. You prove that you care nothing for the Constitution and due process. You also prove that you do not care about a FAIR trial, only that it comes out the way you want it. Coward.

  • greywolfrs

    He is a coward…

  • greywolfrs

    It’s amazing how stupid you are.

  • greywolfrs

    B S, you seem to think you know exactly what happened and what should happen. You are a moron.

  • greywolfrs

    Really? That said by an idiot who believes they all the facts and Zimmerman should be convicted, without a trial. You really are one dumb M F er.

    P.S. Stop using the name Brian Johnson, AC/DC is way out of your league.

  • Anonymous

     I don’t know why Glen doesn’t like him, he comes across as having the American attitude. Stand up for your property and look out for your friends. The police use to be okay with people standing up for themselves. They even tried to play down Zimmerman’s injuries. I am glad Zimmerman was smart enough to fire his first attorney and find someone else.

  • Anonymous

     we will make sure that Zimmerman is taken good care of……I hope he like pink.. that what we are going to put him in to as we gang-bang this bitch..He wont to be white we will make shure he is treat like some white gang-bang porn slut.

  • greywolfrs

    Sure you will, coward.

  • Anonymous

     Your right, the media agitates to encourage a situation to happen. The media agitates and encourages people to hate the police. The media is like the office or neighborhood gossip, they get bored and make up stuff to create a drama situation for their entertainment. Do you think it is because their are more liberal woman doing the news, and they excited when there is turmoil going on.

  • Anonymous

    Not to mention locked and loaded!

  • Crystal Offermann

    Glenn, I’m disappointed in you.  Zimmerman was headed to the store and sees someone he doesn’t know walking around in the rain so he parks his car and watches.  The person is at least 6 foot tall and has a hoodie covering his head so he’s unidentifiable.  The stranger isn’t walking on sidewalks but between houses. Zimmerman then calls the non emergent police # to report.  He does get out of the car and walks the same direction initially as the stranger.  The stranger heads south and out of sight between houses.  The Dispatcher did tell him he didn’t need to follow but the dispatcher DID ask for the address.  He didn’t recognize which street he was on so he walks to the corner to give the dispatcher the street name.  Once he is done he heads back toward his car down the sidewalk. During this time, Trayvon had made it all the way to the townhome he was staying at which is like 4-6 townhouses south of the sidewalk according to “Dee Dee”.  Trayvon then decides to go BACK to the sidewalk–why?  The only plausible reason is to confront Zimmermann–Trayvon was not the angel he has been presented as. He had been suspended several times from school–some of the time for fighting(he had friends tape him and then posted fights to his social media-MMA style fighting) at least once for having marijuana, burglary tools, and someone’s jewelry (stolen?)–also, Trayvon had raved about this hip hop drug he liked on his social media and this drug was made with a tea/juice + Skittles + cough syrup and is referred to as Lean.   recently found an article that confirms that cough syrup with codeine is bad but if he used Robitussin DM instead it causes EXTREME AGGRESSION and can lead to psychotic breaks!!!!  Zimmerman was living in a neighborhood plagued by burglaries and violence.  He was exercising his 2nd amendment right to protect himself.  Trayvon bears a larger measure of responsibility than anyone wants to give him–he was 17 not 2….
    Parents need to be warned about this drugs–the recipes are easily available on line and many of these concoctions can cause serious damage including death.  Zimmerman temperment wise actually reminds me of YOU.

  • Anonymous

    Yet, you think that you understand any of this. You don’t discuss it from the standpoint of fact, legalities or what the witnesses said or the forensics showed, only your unreasoning and factless contention that we’ve only heard Zimmerman’s words and he’s a liar. What exactly is your definition of truth? I don’t really care about what he said. It was consistent with each interview. You think you wouldn’t have trouble keeping everything straight with the stress and hatred this man has endured? I’m sorry you’re not capable of combining the evidence presented and coming up with a coherent argument. I’m sure you’d like things to be the way you see the world, but, unfortunately, none of the evidence is on the side of the drivel you keep spouting.
    Point of fact, excepting a couple of videos, we haven’t HEARD testimony from Zimmerman’s mouth one time during this trial what happened. We’ve only heard the prosecution’s witnesses, not one of which supported the theory that the prosecution presented and, in fact, turned out to be more of a help to the defense than the prosecution. I’ve seen many times what happens when prosecutors become so emotionally invested in a case that they begin by overcharging the defendant, then try to twist every scrap of evidence to some sort of sinister intent. However, on cross, juries are allowed to hear many of those theories dialed back. hat has happened in this case. Even the lead investigator admitted that, in his opinion, Zimmerman was telling the truth. What, exactly, does that mean to you? Or are you going to claim that he DIDN’T say that? He’s seen every scrap of evidence in this case, forensic, interviews and up close. Of course, he’s biased and only for the “white” hispanic, right?
    Without the ability to overcome that hurdle, your very statement that we only have Zimmerman’s words becomes a formidable hurdle for the prosecution because the law assumes innocence and the burden of proof is on the state. But that’s not all there is. Eyewitness statements back up what he stated. The forensics showed that it was he, Zimmerman, who was on his back during the fight, NOT Trayvon Martin. I could go on, but you don’t seem capable of that depth of intuition and Lord knows you certainly don’t like to waste time considering corroborating evidence when your mind is so set on condemning the man.

  • Gadamer too

    Are you threatening violence against Glenn Beck?

  • Gadamer too

    Moderators, another threat of violence. 

  • Gadamer too

    When you’re stupid enough to attack a guy with a gun and you get shot, you got what you wanted.

  • Anonymous

    “Of course, he’s biased and only for the “white” Hispanic, right?”
     
    By the above statement, are you assuming that I’m black because if you are, you’re dead wrong.
     
    Honestly, get over your pompous little self and watch the testimonies with more attentiveness. The lead detective initially did say he believed GZ, but did you hear all the OTHER statements he made AFTER that that proved otherwise? Zimmerman may or may not “prove” his excuse of self-defense, but the fact will always remain that, by ignoring the advice of the dispatcher and making the impetuous decision to get out of his car to pursue Martin, HE is the person who initiated the events which led to this horrible killing. As someone posted, if not for this, the Martin family would probably be celebrating this holiday with their son today. Thank God even Glenn sees that this guy is an egomaniac and wouldn’t want him doing what he did.
     
    I live in a very nice neighborhood, too. Would I want a neighborhood watch captain like Rambo Zimmerman who doesn’t even know the name of the main street in a neighborhood of only 3 streets? And one that couldn’t see that the houses right in front of his nose had the house numbers he claimed he couldn’t see? And to think this idiot was carrying a gun. If he’s found ”not guilty,” maybe you can hire him as your neighborhood watch captain or policeman. You’ll really hear gun shots then. Well, it’s still July 4th and I will continue to enjoy myself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Johnson/100004423093818 Donald Johnson

     When a person sneaks up on you, punches your nose and breaks it knocking you to the ground, jumps on top of you and starts beating your head into the concrete side walk imagine just that. I have a CCW and would have shot any man unarmed or not I am also trained just for situations like that. Yes I would have shot Martin also not to wound but to KILL.

  • Anonymous

    Since you know all the facts of what happened why are you not a witness.

  • Anonymous

    Its bad to neutral?

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t you speak Goshen people on this site say the same about Obama and his family.

  • Anonymous

    Why didn’t he just leave the kid alone.

  • Anonymous

    No one really knows who initiated the fight. Zimmerman, the guy on trial for murder, claims it wasn’t him. The only other person that was there is dead. You say Martin “chose the wrong guy.” The kid was walking home from a convenient store. Regardless of who started the fight, Zimmerman chose him! Zimmerman and only Zimmerman put himself in that position. 

    How would you feel if, all of the other available facts remaining the same, if Martin had pulled out a gun and shot and killed the guy following him in a darkened neighborhood? 

    I’m not saying Zimmerman is guilty, but your idea that Martin “deserves no sympathy” is sad, especially since no one will really know how it all went down.    

  • Anonymous

    How do you get that I’m assuming you’re black? You really have some issues with thinking period. So far, I’ve not seen a great deal of reasoning ability on your part. That first statement pretty much nails that, despite a great deal of discourse, you’re still not cognizant of what’s happening in this case. The “white hispanic” issue has been at the forefront since the beginning. The point of that is that the prosecution is trying to turn this into George Zimmerman being a white racist who stalked Trayvon Martin, ambushed him, and murdered him for fun. And so far as the neighborhood watch, I don’t need George Zimmerman. I’ve got my own guns. I grew up with guns and have trained extensively with them, in fact, more extensively than any of the police where I live who are limited by funding and travel costs. When I’m walking my neighborhood as part of the watch, there is no way I’m not going to be armed. The gangs trying to make an incursion here have had some setbacks and are now well aware that there are armed guards patrolling my neighborhood and vandalism, break-ins and property theft could easily cost them their lives. So, no, I don’t need George Zimmerman in my neighborhood. George Zimmerman may not be the shiniest fork in the drawer, but at least he was smart enough not to allow a thug to beat him to death. In your case, perhaps you could hold a little counseling session to find out the roots of his aggression. Frankly, I think you’re incapable of visualizing what you would do because, based on what you think he SHOULD have done, you’d be a deer in the headlights.

  • Anonymous

    You continue to misconstrue every single one of my points so this conversation has become ineffectual.

  • For My Liberty

    Interesting that you would bring up some BS like that. Better look in the mirror before you start calling names. OH, by the way….That does NOT WORK anymore. We have gotten too used to being called that name by people like YOU because you have NO ARGUMENT ..so you just resort to name calling. MAYBE you should spend more time opening your damn EYES instead of running your mouth!

  • Crystal Offermann

    I have watched every interview I can, researched details, analyzed and synthesized what I’ve found. The

    whole truth won’t be revealed unless the defense is allowed to provide the school police report details.

    The mother testified today the screams where from Trayvon but in earlier interviews she knew nothing about

    his interests or activities, for instance. He was suspended from school repeatedly while in her custody– she

    knows a lot more than she is admitting to. She has gone months without contact with Trayvon…she may well

    of sent him to his father for discipline? Kicked him out of the House? The police also know what the watermelon

    juice is used for…originally, I understand, a narcotics detective was assigned. I have lived in inner city Chicago and

    worked in Children’s Ministries…I have seen a lot. The language he used was Ebonic
    http://louisville.edu/faculty/bmhorn01/English%20Only%20and%20U.S.%20College %20Composition.pdf (print your own)

    Are you aware, for instance, that the Martin Family has bought the rights to the term, “Justice For Trayvon”

    and have collected lots of money through it. They also created a defense fund for themselves–why? Could

    they have been doing something wrong? During the girlfriend’s testimony when the mother and lawyer, and

    prosecutor were present(Tape played at trial) the prosecutor mentions a detail that Dee Dee hadn’t and she

    replies,” oh, so you need that, too?” When the defense tried to clarify, the prosecution objected and the Judge

    then sided with the prosecution?! Was she coached to say what they wanted her to say? Just consider me an

    external jury member…I have a healthcare background and have spent time as a researcher. I have a passion

    for truth…the prosecution doesn’t seem to want it to get out.

    I also have lots of info on Benghazi, IRS Scandal, NSA Scandal, EPA, DHS, DOJ/Holder scandals–this is not the only topic.

  • Anonymous

    Please explain go me why is trayvon Martin records have go do with the case. When Zimmerman seen him did his records magically appear. And what about the money Zimmerman raised that was suppose to be for his defense but his lawyers never knew be had it. You where not there that night so please stop trying to act like you where. And your healthcare background means nothing because you never examined Zimmerman. And just be aide you watched some Interview and the trial does not mean you have all the facts.

  • Crystal Offermann

    The medical examiner just testified that he thought Trayvon may have been alive for up to 10 minutes after being shot.  Does anyone know when the ambulance arrived?  I remember a police officer was administering CPR but did the EMTs give up on him too soon?   Could they have the wrong defendent from that perspective?

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    U forgot to point out that the first agressor and the person with the gun was Mr. Zimmerman. The kid only had an ice tea and bag of Skittles, fool. Being a neighborhood watch don’t make u a police officer or a security officer, you need extra judment for that. I don’t know if Zimmerman is guilty of murder, but all of this could have been avoided if he sticks to his guidelines as a neighborhood watchdog. A man is today alive and a kid has been murdered, that’s my issue.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    My guess is that you would probably think differently if Treyvon was your kid or your brother or someone related to you. I truly believe that if Treyvon happen to be a “white kid from the suburbs” and Zimmerman a black neighborhood watchman, we coud have say that Zimmerman was the agressor because he was arm and he was the adult in this confrontation. Again, I don’t know if Zimmerman is guilty or not, the Court should decide that, but if I called the Police to check on someone in my neighborhood, I wait for backup cause I dont know if the youngter is arm as well. That night one person died, but it could have been two if both are carrying guns, so your point is based on “pre-active strike and aggresion” coming first from the person with the gun, not the person with an ice tea and a bag of skittles.

  • antithetical radical

    Much hypothesizing and emotion, however what matters are the facts and the law. The law trumps speculation and the jury will decide. There is too much sensationalizing of this and other cases, and the race of both parties is immaterial. I will do as I always do and abide by the law regardless of how I feel.

    Review the post – I did not write, “pre-active strike and aggresion”, you inserted that here in an attempt to make it seem that I did. That isn’t going to work.

  • mgentry

    no, they will convict him as that’s the only way to avoid riots. it’s not about what is right and what is wrong – it’s about who will let us walk over them and not do anything. the path of least resistance. that’s why the hate mongers and rioters and whiners and freeloaders get their way. they make trouble. that is why people get away with calling others racist with no facts to prove it. we back down and let them do it and they get their way. 

  • antithetical radical

    Martin escalated the incident to use of force in response to a question from Zimmerman – I don’t care how you frame it, physically assaulting someone because the say something to you is a criminal act. I don’t care what culture you care to bring up, hitting a person repeatedly mixed martial arts fashion is all the justification the other person needs to fight back. In this case the assault was so overwhelming that any reasonable person would do what ever it took to end the fight, if that means resorting to deadly force to stop the aggressor from beating the victim to death, then so be it. That is what the stand your ground law and your right to self defense is all about.

    I don’t care how much you want to deny it, that is the central fact in this case. Treyvon should have retreated and only resorted to physical contact after Martin left him no other chance. It is pretty clear that Martin chose to beat up a “creepy ass cracker” instead, so in essence Martin chose the wrong person to beat up; he chose an armed man – don’t start a fight with someone if they are in possession of a deadly weapon – that is a basic rule of survival. I base my words on the testimony that has been given, and according to that, Martin made the decision to try to beat up Zimmerman instead of walking or running away. If he had retreated, we would not be having this discussion.

  • antithetical radical

    Why is there air? Your question is pointless, but nothing that Zimmerman did was illegal, so why should I debate the pointless with you? Ultimately it is a waste of time and you don’t deserve my time.

  • Anonymous

    Whether it’s your issue or not is irrelevant. What happened was not murder. The legal standard for this is very high and nothing I’ve seen or heard remotely comes close to clearing the bar on those requirements. Again, removing all responsibility from Trayvon Martin and placing blame on George Zimmerman’s shoulders is not justice. Both of them made choices. The question is, which of them made ILLEGAL choices? It wasn’t George Zimmerman. Trayvon Martin chose to attack him. It doesn’t matter that Zimmerman was following him, no matter the reason claimed by the prosecution. Following him was not illegal. Trayvon Martin’s decision to escalate to violence places George Zimmerman’s use of deadly force within the legal realm of the “stand your ground” law in Florida. I understand you don’t like it. That still doesn’t remotely clear the legal hurdle of the standards for 2nd degree murder. I’m pretty certain that George Zimmerman wishes things had turned out differently, but the evidence supports his testimony.

  • Anonymous

    Again, you’re assuming Martin started the fight. And why aren’t you at all critical of Zimmerman? We’ll never knew for sure who started the fight, but we do know that Zimmerman put the wheels in motion by following someone, getting out of his car, and approaching them. You posit these hypotheticals–”should have retreated,” “if he had retreated we would not be having…” etc.–that work both ways. Zimmerman should not have followed the kid, should have listened to the dispatcher, etc.  
    The stand your ground law is not meant to save your ass if you put yourself in a compromising position, engage in a fight (granted, he may have not started it), and when you find yourself losing that fight, shoot and kill your opponent. If anything, Martin was standing his ground. You can’t drive around with a gun and follow people and then say you were simply standing your ground.   Given the evidence, it doesn’t seem like the prosecution has a strong case, and Zimmerman will probably get off. And maybe he should. But it’s amazing how this has become a left/right political issue. Where someone stands on this case is basically indicative of their political orientation. Would you feel unsympathetic towards a dead Zimmerman, an unarmed neighborhood watchman who approached a suspicious black guy and was gunned down in the ensuing melee?  Would you be supporting Martin’s right to stand his ground if it was he who was on trial?  

  • Anonymous

    Are you claiming that violence perpetrated through fists, kicks and beating doesn’t qualify as assault? Or are you saying it’s not possible to be concerned for your life if it’s only a physical assault using fists, kicks, knees, elbows, etc? Are you claiming that a person’s body can’t be used as a weapon against another? What Trayvon Martin was carrying in his hand has nothing to do with this case. Not once has one person claimed that George Zimmerman attacked Trayvon Martin because he thought he was carrying a weapon, so why are you even bringing it up?
    Your claim that we would be having a completely different discussion if the races of the two were reversed is ridiculous. I don’t care what color they are. It is their actions that matter. Just knock off the race baiting. It’s cheap, unproductive and plain wrong, especially in light of the fact that they are BOTH minorities. You, like most of those who keep trying to bring race into this discussion, are far more preoccupied with the color of the person you’re choosing sides for than are any of your opponents. If you truly believe that the choices and actions of a person can either be excused or castigated based on race, you’re a racist. It doesn’t matter which color you choose, racism is racism. Far flung, hypocritical hypotheticals to make a point based, not on fact, but on presupposition that you then ascribe to your opponents is just plain lazy.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t understand the legal requirements of the Florida stand your ground law. If the person who is attacked is not committing an illegal act, then the law still covers them. The evidence shows that, most likely, Trayvon Martin turned and attacked Zimmerman. He is NOT covered by the stand your ground law. Initiation of physical aggression immediately fails the “reasonable” test included in the law. It doesn’t matter that you don’t personally agree with Zimmerman’s actions. The question is, was what he did illegal? The answer to that is, no.
    There is no provision in the law that designates a specific distance from another person that has to be maintained as justification to avoid attack. It does not provide for initiation of violence because someone asks you a question. Further, a 911 dispatcher does not have the authority to limit the mobility or modify the choices of a person they are talking to during an emergency. They are not “officials”. The law does not provide for denial of a stand your ground defense because a person did not follow the instructions of a 911 operator. No matter how much you would like to use that convict him, the law does not provide a reasonable avenue to do that.
    But let’s just go a step further. If people would simply give in to anyone who chooses to act like a thug, then there would NEVER be a need for the provisions of the stand your ground law. Thugs would have no fear of being opposed. Those who simply stepped aside when property crime occurs could be safer because the thugs would not feel threatened. Of course, sexual crimes, murder for fun…all the perpetrators of that particular brand of predation would greatly appreciate it if they could simply rape or murder (or both) whoever they wish unopposed, including small children.
    You can take this contention of yours as far as you want, believing that George Zimmerman had no right to be where he was and no right to follow Trayvon Martin and certainly, you don’t seem to feel that he had a right to defend himself because of the former. Unfortunately for you, it doesn’t clear the legal bar required to deny him the protections of the stand your ground law and convict him of murder. Can you actually cite ANY evidence that he was just waiting to kill someone and that he chose to attack Trayvon Martin hoping to provoke him so that he could kill him because he hates those of color? Because that is exactly what the prosecution is saying and that is exactly what they must prove in order to obtain a conviction of 2nd degree murder.
    This case is an example of prosecutors overcharging a case because they desire to use it as a societal exemplar case or to further their own careers. What they are asking the jury to do is wrong. You may not like Zimmerman. You may even believe that it was him who attacked Trayvon Martin. But there is more evidence that it was Zimmerman who was attacked by Martin and under the law, the question of reasonable doubt has to be overcome in order to gain a conviction. Where there is doubt as to who did what and the existence of corroborating evidence that supports the contentions of the defendant, reasonable doubt exists and the jury has an obligation to exonerate the defendant. Whether that happens or not is still up in the air, but legally, the prosecution has a lot to overcome here and their own case did not overcome reasonable doubt. With the defense now able to call their own witnesses, it is highly unlikely that they will obtain their goal.

  • Anonymous

    @slkgej6:disqus 

    The prosecution has been limited in how much they can emphasize race and racial profiling in their case. They are claiming that Zimmerman initially targeted Martin as a result of racial profiling but not that Zimmerman killed Martin because he (Zimmerman) “hates those of color.” Moreover, the defense isn’t using the ‘stand your ground’ defense, they are claiming Zimmerman acted in ‘self defense.’ 

  • Anonymous

     If Trayvons records were of no importance,then why should Georges be? Who cares if he tried to be a police officer. Goes both ways, or rather it should. But not in this trial. And your incorrect. There was THC in his system..

  • Anonymous

    Zimmerman’s records show that he had knowledge of the stand your ground law witch he said he didn’t know. Which shoe not only did he lie to the police but he knew what to say and do to try and invoke the stand your ground law.

  • Anonymous

     His records show he took a criminal justice class that may have included self defense. Not necessarily ” stand your ground “  And because you know there is a self defense law, then you are not allowed to use it ? That’s ridiculous..
      And if you want to talk about lies, how about Trayvons father saying it wasn’t his sons voice on the tape. But now he swears it is.
    And just one more thing. George told the police he was yelling for help long before anyone knew it was recorded on the 911 call. So just how do you explain that ?

  • Anonymous

     Who is being racist here? You want the man to be found guilty simply because he shot an African American. Don’t let the fact that it may actually have been self defense get in the way of your hang em high mentality.

  • Anonymous

    I only hope these 6 jurors have the strength to come to a just verdict. Without fear of reprisals, or threats of riots etc.. Shame on ALL who threaten our justice system with these promises of revenge etc.. if the verdict doesn’t go the way they perceive it should

  • Anonymous

    Well if you watched the trail. You would have seen the instructor for the course testified that they went over the stand your ground law more than once. And nobody can tell who voice that was on the tape and of course Zimmerman would say it was him that was yelling. And we can’t ask the other person about that because he is dead. so just because Zimmerman said he yelled dose not mean that is what happened.

  • Anonymous

     Well if you watched the trail..sorry, won’t let me reply to the actual post. I have watched the trial. And who cares about a criminal justice class. Really, what American doesn’t know about self defense? Hardly makes him guilty. And you fail to address the inconsistencies on the prosecution side. Truth be told, I want the guy to have a fair trial. Based on facts, not the color of anyone’s skin.

  • Anonymous

     Right, Obama wants the violence. Do you even hear yourself ?! Everything is Obama, all the time. Who will be the next great evil when he’s not president. Oh wait, I forget. Martial law, no elections..oh wait.that was your prediction for the last election..

  • Anonymous

    He is getting a fair trail

  • Anonymous

    For some odd reason, I can’t reply directly to you. Strange.
    Anyway, we shall see about the fair trial. Personally, I have some questions about the bias of the judge. But that’s just me. Who sustains an objection because the defense attorney wanted to tell Trayvon’s Mom he was sorry for her loss ?! And in that same vein, what kind of a prosecutor would even object? Bad form
     

  • Anonymous

    That’s apart of courtroom procedure

  • Anonymous

    Have seen plenty of trials to know that is just not true. It was a conscience decision on the part of the prosecutor…nothing more.

  • Anonymous

    Nope, not that easy. The defense IS using the stand your ground law as the justification for self defense is found there. They chose, strategically, to NOT hold a stand your ground hearing specifically, because if that motion had been heard and then rejected, the law could not specifically be used for the self defense statute. Had they chosen to hold the special hearing, it would have been akin to asking for a summary judgment. If they won, the trial would not have proceeded, but if they lost, it would then limit their access to that defense. Since the judge has pretty much given the prosecution carte blanche in the case, they knew there was no chance of the summary judgment, so strategically, they chose to not hold that hearing. That action does not obviate the defendant’s right to the statutes found in the stand your ground law. They simply didn’t ask for summary judgment and dismissal.
    So far as the race issue, the prosecution reiterated, again, yesterday that Zimmerman was a liar and that he is a racist. Your point on profiling vs. killing him doesn’t make any sense, as 2nd degree murder can only be the result of malicious, depraved indifference and there is no definition under the law that separates the two. If he profiled him, then the murder is based on his racial malice that led to the profile. The law requires proof of depraved indifference in order to successfully prove murder.
    The depraved indifference, the prosecution maintains, began with the racial profiling. Therefore, they are not separating the two events. Read the law. It can be found under Title XLVI (Crimes), Chapter 782 (Homicide). Unfortunately, Florida law is extremely complex and confusing on this matter, as it would almost be better for him to be convicted of 2nd degree murder than manslaughter, as there is no distinction under the law between voluntary and involuntary manslaughter and it carries with it mandatory sentencing guidelines of at least 15 years to life. Those guidelines do not exist in the 2nd degree murder statute, excepting limitation of the sentence to no more than life. In other words, they cannot ask for the death penalty with 2nd degree murder, but anything else goes.
    Under most states’ legal statutes, there is a significant difference between 2nd degree murder and manslaughter, with most states defining the difference between involuntary manslaughter and 2nd and 1st degree manslaughter. Florida has none of those distinctions. The jury is not being given many options here. In most states, depraved indifference is a separate charge similar to 1st degree manslaughter, but, because it literally requires that a jury assume the thought processes of the defendant in order to discern intent, it is literally never used as the legal hurdle is simply too difficult to overcome when the jury is given their charge just prior to deliberation. The only time I’ve ever seen it used was in the 1980′s in New Jersey. A drug company’s study of a monoamine oxidase inhibitory drug that was being tested in children that continued even when several deaths occurred that were ascribed by the prosecution to the study protocols. The drug company failed to cancel the study and recall the medications because of the costs involved. The prosecution was not successful as the jury could not come to a consensus about the “intent” of the manufacturer. The case ended up in civil court where the drug company was made to pay millions to the parents of the children who had died. This case could end similarly because “depraved indifference” is literally undefinable, yet this is the wording of Florida’s 2nd degree murder statute and manslaughter statutes. The requirements for civil court are much less stringent and have been used successfully many times, such as in the OJ Simpson case.

  • Anonymous

    No, it’s not. Under Florida law, it is left completely up to the judge to decide what is admissible and what is not. However, under the law, the judge and prosecutors are supposed to maintain an appearance of fairness. What that means is that, if George Zimmerman’s past history is admissible in order to establish his frame of mind at the time of the altercation, then, under a rational interpretation of the fairness act, Trayvon Martin’s should be equally admissible. Instead, what the judge stated when denying the defense’s motion to use his past history of drug use, altercations that were filmed, etc, was that she was going to limit evidence only to what happened during the altercation. Allowing the prosecution to then drag in things like a criminal justice class and then holding him responsible as if he were a licensed attorney, but only allowing complimentary testimony about Trayvon Martin, ridiculously violates the fairness statute and George Zimmerman’s civil rights. That, alone, could lead to the basis for an appeal if the trial verdict goes against him. But the point is that this has nothing to do with court procedure.

  • Timothy Kenny

    funny beck says that zimmerman seems like an egomaniac, while he himself gives speeches from behind a desk in a fake oval office.

  • Anonymous

    Yes that was a conscience decision by the prosecutor, that’s what be is payed to do. Just because you don’t like the move its not unfair. Its apart of courtroom procedure.

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t say it was unfair. Sad,yes.

  • Anonymous

    And the judge could have easily over ruled. But just my opinion

  • Anonymous

    It will be just another day in paradise.

  • Anonymous

    The only people talking about riot are you guys on here.

  • Anonymous

    If you read my previous post I have explained why zimmermans records link to the case. Please explain how trayvon Martin records link to the case. Its not unfair Zimmerman records show that he studied the stand your ground law. Which shows he lied to the police and that he knew exactly what to say to invoke the law. But trayvon Martin records have no link to the case.

  • SRM29

    Do you even pay attention to everything going on right now, or just listen to the MSM that conservatives are “racist nutjobs?” Don’t say we never warned you. Our prediction turned out to be early, but it will still happen.

  • Anonymous

    First of all..I never called anyone a racist nut job. But I’m so tired of all the gloom and doom. Not everything that happens here or abroad is designed to some how have Obama declare martial law and take over the country as a dictator. That is just ridiculous..

  • Anonymous

    I lean to the right but, if you read my posts, you’ll see that I completely agree with your points. The left/right divide may appear to be true on this site, but, trust me, many who lean to the right agree with you.

  • Justin Hensley

    Zimmerman is most certainly guilty. After listening to the medical examiner’s testimony today, it’s quite obvious that this case and charge has NO merit. The prosecutors are reaching so far to find anything… 

  • Justin Hensley

    Is it not true that blacks riot when they dont get what they want. That they bash the skulls in of non blacks during their riots and destroy others properties. Show me ONE white guy in the black riots you politically correct FOOL. 

  • Sharon Smith

    I just heard the verdict, and must agree. Why wouldn’t you kill a teenager walking in the dark with Skittles and tea?? 

  • Crystal Offermann

    THC was found as well as liver and brain degeneration not normal for his age. Maijuana messes up brain development. At TM’s age the areas developing control critical thinking skills and judgement. When you couple that with his violent fights taped and posted on Facebook and on his phone, all this verfify what had been observed. The female ME only used photos and written medical reports just like I have…she WAS a witness?

  • Crystal Offermann

    You asked so I answered. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. Obviously, you can’t handle the truth.