Buck Sexton reacts to the military coup in Egypt

TheBlaze’s national security editor, Buck Sexton, joined the Glenn Beck Program this evening to discuss the latest news out of Egypt. Why are some in the media still refusing to call this a coup? And will revolution be the ‘new normal’ for Egypt? Buck shares his insight and expertise.

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  • Anonymous

    I think the question as of right now, and I mean ‘right now’ ’cause there could be rapid developments at this stage,   is will the MB stand down peacefully ? 

    If not it certainly could get messy.

    I think it pertinent to remember the opposition were filling Tahrir wanting rid of the Army not so long ago.   So as was alluded in the interview are they in cyclical mode..   Interim Gov, New Constitution… Elections.. blah blah. Been here before.  And what if the MB win next time ? (would be kinda funny..).   If things don’t start getting better quickly, if Morsi is still around he’ll be in a stronger position as time goes on. He can after all, theoretically garnish support from the majority.  But they may never be seen in Politics again after this..

    (has the Leopard gone owf for a catnap ?)

    • nutt

      (I think his head’s spinning, and needs a clear lead from Beck)

  • Anonymous

    My initial reaction to this news is one of hope.  Yes, I do most definitely see the danger here and it causes me great discomfort to imagine the ways in which this could go terribly wrong. 

    I agree with zoo06 that one big question right now is how the Muslim Brotherhood will react.  This event will put the MB to the test.  If the MB truly is a modern political movement, they will, indeed, stand down and get down to the work of modifying their party platform and their actions so as to take a more enlightened approach to governance.  My fear is that this will happen when pigs fly and that they will adopt the “techniques of persuasion” used by Islamic fascists the world over.

    Pardon me for writing this, but, in my opinion, people are excessively concerned about the niceties of legality here.  Sure, Morsi may have been elected by a majority of voters in the election.  But political theorists recognize that there is such a thing as the concept of “the tyranny of the majority” and something must be done to protect the lives and rights of people who are not members of the majority.  The mere fact that most people in Egypt voted for Morsi and his Islamist ideas is irrelevant in the modern world.  As the leader of Egypt, Morsi represented all the people of Egypt and, if he did not show that he recognized that and was committed to making that so, then he needed to go if there was someone or some body capable of checking his power and his unwillingness to recognize the basic human rights of all people of Egypt. 

    Americans have the Constitution of the United States of America to protect them (an ingeniously devised document which was meant to pit one branch of the government against the others in hopes that none of them would gain and exercise too much power without any chance of being stopped) and even though Americans have been asleep at the switch for a very long time, there is still hope that we can invoke the Constitution in time to save the Republic.

    By all accounts, Egyptians don’t have such a constitution.  Their constitution may or may not have a lot of stated protections of minorities.  Indeed, several years ago, when Egypt had overthrown Mubarak and was embarking on its journey toward something else, Madame Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg famously (?) stated that Egypt would do well to construct a constitution based on any number of such documents written since World War II, constitutions which were chock-a-block with guarantees of the rights of minorities and that the U.S. Constitution was not a good model because it lacked those kinds of specific guarantees.  How short-sighted she was.  Because those statements of rights in constitutions are mere piffle without the possibility of institutional gridlock built into the system – a possibility which insures that the branches will cooperate with each other in some way, shape, or form.  The distribution of power and counter-power is what really guarantees minority rights.

    One can hope that the Egyptian military truly saw the shortcomings of the system they have put on hold.  It’s entirely possible that they did.  Do not make the mistake of thinking that military people are just a bunch of guys who know how to kill people and break things.  They know things.  They have power.  And maybe, just maybe, they have seen that the path that country was on was a path to perfidy.  And that they had the power and the knowledge and the will to prevent that from happening.  Bad things happening now or in the future?  Hit re-start and try again.

    Obama needs to think long and hard before he attempts to interfere.  My greatest fear is that he will not think at all.  My second greatest fear is that he is so enamored of his power and himself that he will interfere in a way that does immeasurable damage to the United States.

    • Keith Howard

      I agree , but obviously the Idea that you represent and protect, not only the people who voted for you, but those who preferd others is a tough concept to grasp. I dont think our own president even understand or practices this concept. Besides, I dont think Morsi ever intended there to be another president of Egypt. he was already disarming the police, arming his Muslim Brotherhood people, and placeing new Generals in the armed forces he thought would be loyal. I believe he planned on being president for life. The Sultan of Egypt.

      • Anonymous

         Yes, I agree with you.  The concept you mention is a tough one to grasp.  Very insightful application of the observation to our own President and his own style of power-through-division politics.

    • Anonymous

      The people of Egypt and the military saw that Morsi and the MBH was over stepping the constitution that they create to start with. That in itself was enough to remove Morsi, but let me say this when the  stated protections of minorities are being violated there wasn’t any other alternative but to remove the cancer.  

    • Anonymous

      As plainly and simply as I can state it, the goal of the Muslim Brotherhood is absolute dominion over the land of Egypt in order to enforce Sharia Law.  This is the goal of any Muslim in power.  Morsi was a constitutionalist but his constitution isn’t like ours.  What makes America’s system hold together is not only the checks and balances but the filibusters and the ratification and repealing of one amendment at a time.  Morsi was signing off on new orders ala the Beasts of England in Orwell’s Animal Farm.  
      From a political standpoint, the big problem with this coup, and with Morsi’s ugly presidential jurisprudence beforehand, is that power is in the hands of only one faction.  Ask yourself how empowered Christians are feeling in Egypt right about now.  
      From a moral standpoint, I think that the entire Middle East would benefit entirely if people stopped believing in the lies and prejudices that are written all over the Koran and stop listening to the teachings of the bigoted, moronic, warmongering, child molesting man they call Muhammad.  

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    If things don’t start getting better quickly, if Morsi is still around he’ll be in a stronger position as time goes on. He can after all, theoretically garnish support from the majority.  But they may never be seen in Politics again after this..

  • Anonymous

    Well, I wonder what CBS, ABC, CNN and MSNBC think of the “Freedom Fighters” now?

    Holding fast to “democracy” isn’t as easy or as rosy as it may have appeared to those network’s young (and old) whippersnappers.  So before we start believing the plaudits of the press for the present administration:  Are we walking the same path?

  • nutt

    The people have shown that they didn’t vote for what Morsi started to railroad in. They didn’t vote for him to ignore the day-to-day stuff like crime/jobs/economy in order to pander to the MB and drive a radical constitution. It was shackles like that that they threw off with Mubarak. And now they’re showing that Morsi not delivering freedom isn’t acceptable. Strange how many American Revolutionaries are frowning upon this. First they prefer a dictator, now they prefer MB.

    • Anonymous

       I’d say you’re pretty much right there.  But then again what yardstick of political performance are we holding him to ?   What shining lights of hope and staggering political and social achievements do we in the West boast about ? 

      In light of the fact half the Government had already seen the writing on the wall, with Tahrir full, for me the solution would have been for the Army to force Morsi to accept a more balanced Government, look at the Constitution again, in return for MM seeing out the term.  But then again El-B wouldn’t have gone for that.  Once again the side with connections to the West takes a stance of no negotiation !  Ever notice this ?

      I digress… Maybe the Army tried that.  I heard reports last night of Islamists starting to do bad things in the cities of Middle Egypt, which has always been dangerous and a tourist no-go zone. (as in fact most of the country always has been..).  Not to justify anything but maybe some of this and what’s to come could have been avoided if the Army hadn’t been so radical and one-sided.  This could send the MB underground again to goodness knows what results.  I don’t think shutting down all their broadcasting helped. 

      Let’s hope for the best..  and Mr Obama.. that WAS a Military Coup. (quack quack).

    • Anonymous

      Please offer me an example of what an “American Revolutionary” is to you in this context and who might be an example of one.  I frown upon Islam personally.  The separation of Church and State, which many of us dwell upon to form our political beliefs, is not a thing that exists in Islam.  Politics and the State are one.  This of course leads to corruption, every single time!  

      Anybody who promotes Sharia Law as the law of the land, anywhere at anytime, is a terrorist.  Anyone (Bush, Obama, McCain, doesn’t matter) who props up any Islamist of any kind at any time is supporting a terrorist.  Not all Muslims are terrorists, just the ones who follow the Koran.

      • Anonymous

         So you’re trying to tell me that the laws that govern the US have nothing to do with Christianity ?   Come on Bert, all our basic ‘rights and wrongs’ (not that they’re adhered to much) are derived from the Bible’s teachings. As indeed pretty much the same ‘rights and wrongs’ and defined in other mainstream religions.  Your last sentence is a joke. There are billions of people on this planet who live simple, peaceful, pious lives according to their belief in the Koran.  Your stance in interpretation of holy scriptures is as extreme as that of the suicide bomber.  Only you have a powerful Country, a powerful Army to hide behind and do the dirty work for you.  Some have to stand up for themselves. 

        A proper Christian should recognise and respect the Koran.  As any Muslim should recognise and respect the Bible.  That’s what BOTH religions teach.   The more hate you throw one way, the more hate comes back. 

        Back in Egypt, the MB were an illegal organisation only two years ago. They had been imprisoned politically for decades. They had been tortured for decades.  So the (US bribed let’s not forget) Dictator is overthrown, good old Democracy reigns, and low and behold the MB galvanise the majority. One year later, they are overthrown in a coup, arrested, and all their media is censored.  I’d be pissed off.

        • Anonymous

          I’ve read the entire Koran! Have you?! It’s the most religiously bigoted book in world history! I’m not telling you that the laws that govern the US have nothing to do with Christianity. I didn’t imply that at all in any way. I’m Christian myself and support Judeo-Christian values…which call for NO violence of any kind at any time. Christians are about a thousand times more marginalized than the MB in Egypt, it’s a matter of reading up on the subject to find out about that. Peace out, your entire post is ad hominem.

          • Anonymous

             Look, yesterday was a very bad day so maybe I wasn’t mincing the words enough.  But as a matter of fact from what you’ve said, seems to me you are interpreting in-line with Islamist extremist interpretations. Opposed to seeing any of the good. 

            No I haven’t read it. Kudos.  But I’m happy to trust the 99% who seem to be able to be guided to simple, happy, and peaceful lives by it.  I’ve spent time in and around Arab communities and generally never not been offered a cup of tea, food and a friendly chat.  People that have nothing to start with.  Salt of the Earth.  (I know it costs you a couple of quid i the end !). 

            I think you’re more likely to get mugged in the US.  I have naturally encountered aggression and ill-feeling Arabs.  Away from Tourist areas some clearly teach their children the white man is bad, and many young men stare at you funny. But I have to accept it if I go anywhere like that, I understand where the ill-feeling comes from.   And then the likes of you and me sit in our ivory towers a discuss how they should live their lives.

            (As it happens being Scottish, rather than American or English seems to help slightly. Though they usually think I’m German..)

          • Anonymous

            Surah 47:4 of the Koran says: “And when ye meet those who misbelieve – then striking off heads until ye have massacred them, and bind fast the bonds.”
            Surah 9:5 “But when the sacred months are passed away, kill the idolaters wherever ye may find them; and take them, and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in every place of observation.”
            Surah 4:37-38 concerning women: “Men stand superior to women in that Allah hath preferred some of them over others, and in that they expend of their wealth: and the virtuous women, devoted, careful (in their husband’s) absence, as Allah has cared for them. But those whose perverseness ye fear, admonish them and remove them into the bedchambers and BEAT them; but if they submit to you, then do not seek a way against them; verily Allah is high and great.”
            You would think that you are more likely to get mugged in the USA than in Muslim lands, but you’d be wrong. There are very few places in the USA in the inner cities where cops are not in charge. These tiny pockets of the land don’t cancel out the fact that the south side of Chicago, or East Los Angeles, are places that are much safer than anywhere in Iraq, Syria, or Afghanistan, or the Sudan, Egypt, Pakistan…relatively speaking, this is a great place to live.
            Now that I’ve quoted their “good” book, you understand where their ill feelings come from. You are not a Muslim, that is all a Muslim needs to have an ill feeling towards you.
            I’m a paycheck to paycheck kind of a guy, so I don’t have an ivory tower to watch these 1.4 billions people from.

          • Anonymous

             Didn’t mean the Ivory Towers thing personally. Not in one either, and don’t want one. But it’s all relative and generalistic. 

            Thinking about you reading the Koran.. I wager you read it with the intention of fishing out bits to discredit it ?   That approach is only likely to yield one result – you find what you want.

            There are similar quotes from the Bible that could be levelled the other way. 

            I think you once said something like “It’s the person every time” ?  If so you contradicted that by saying – “Not all Muslims are terrorists, just the ones who follow the Koran.”  Which was the sentence that I took issue with in the first place.

            As for the state of many US city’s, I know I don’t live there..  but my understanding is the picture you paint is a bit rosy. 

            Either way, long may the pay cheques keep rolling in :-)

          • Anonymous

            I’m okay with your post here except let me refute you on one thing.
            My intent to study the Koran was this…I was curious about the religion and decided to study it. I grew up Christian and was insulted at what the Koran had to say. I read every word of it and read every single solitary footnote in the back of my copy. Then I discussed the Koran with local Muslim people over coffee, and with some who renounced Islam, over beers. My study of Islam is full circle and my full verdict is that it encroaches on human freedom. The Koran teaches hostility towards those who are different, if you follow that creed to the word, you are a terrorist.

        • Anonymous

          There aren’t billionS (plural) of Muslims period by the way. About 1.4 billion actually.

          • Anonymous

             I think I could probably split hairs on 1.4 being a multiple.. but let’s not :-)

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

      If you ask me what the truly need is a purely secular government. Instead of a theocracy they have now.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    God I pray for them that they get it right this time if not
    then I am going to say screw the Egyptian people for being so stupid. 

    • Anonymous

       Have faith and keep praying for the people of Egypt.  Take heart in the fact that the first years of this great nation were fraught with peril, disagreement, conflict, and war.  And don’t forget that our great Constitution was our second attempt at drafting a foundational document for our country.  The Articles of Confederation came first.  The results were, um, er, wanting.  It wasn’t much later that the Founders came up with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

        It all one can do for them.

  • Anonymous

    While we’re happy to see Egyptians reject the Muslim Brotherhood, Obama appropriately said “We are deeply concerned by the decision of the Egyptian Armed Forces to remove President Mursi and suspend the Egyptian constitution.”  Beck has said that United States has an agenda that is the Muslim Brotherhood, an inappropriate exaggeration, of course.  The US wants Egyptians to stand for democracy, but to do it in an orderly way that respects their own constitution   If they chose the Muslim Brotherhood, the US must respect Egyptian’s decision.  I was criticized for saying that on this blog and for saying if Egyptians didn’t like the Muslim Brotherhood’s handling of government, they would revolt again.  Nailed it.

  • Hrant Vartzbedian

    Morsi won the election by 51.7% of the vote of about 18 million who actually voted, 22 million just signed the petition to depose him, 33 million went to the streets and dethroned him, the army chose the peoples side and granted them the popular demand. that’s it.

    Moderate Islams with their Christian brothers fought against the US backed Islamic Extremists and won, don’t be sore now.

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