Why the DOJ could have a hard time trying Zimmerman

Hans von Spakovsky, a senior legal fellow at the Heritage Foundation, joined Dana Loesch on last night’s Glenn Beck Program to discuss the implications of the George Zimmerman verdict. Will the Martin family sue Zimmerman in civil court? And will the DOJ bring up its own civil rights case? Von Spakovsky shares his insight into why both cases would be difficult to prosecute:

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  • Stephan Bruno

    At the end of the day the white people you work with, laugh with, and live with, don’t like your black ass.

  • Anonymous

    Obama nor Whitey are responsible for 75% of all African
    American baby boys to be born out of wedlock or grow up with %65 divorced and shacked
    up parents and then to drop out of school and dress like gang members when they
    became teenagers.

    If the cause is not named accurately there is no hope for remedy.

  • Anonymous

    You are a racist.  I am a white person who never EVER singles people out due to their race.  You are 100% wrong about me!  You’ve made a patently moronic statement about white people.  I’ve read every word of the Autobiography of Malcolm X.  At the end of his far too short life, he capitulated his racism and realized that white people aren’t inherently bad.  I suggest you do the same because your statement here makes you look like a moron.

  • Stephan Bruno

    Think about that the next time you pass a young black male you don’t know. Watch you put your guards up or brace for a potentially violent action you think might happen.

  • Anonymous

    I used to live in the ghetto of East St. Paul, Minnesota.  I had a lot of black friends.  I used to babysit their kids and even had Thanksgiving dinner with a black family once.  I NEVER react to black people the way you think!  You’re wrong about me again!  
    “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” 
    Those are the words of MLK Jr. of course, a man who I think is one of the finest men to have ever walked this earth.  You’ve ignored HIS words by assuming that because I’m white, the content of my character is predetermined.  Wise up!

  • Anonymous

    Could we contend that the prosecution’s initial hindering of allowing the evidence of Zimmerman’s injuries to be brought forth was OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE?!  It seems that charges should be brought forth against the entire prosecution team.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    The Department of Justice will have a hard time trying Zimmerman.

    The true injustice here will be if Holder does go after Zimmerman on Civil Rights, or for that matter has an open investigation for years on end and holds over the mans head the possible indictment on such charges, and never bothers to do so unless it becomes political expedient.

    Remember, that with the left, the message and the image are more important than the substance itself. Thus with a threat of prosecution they can terrorize the man for years and destroy what little bit of his life he has left.

  • Draxx

    Where the hell do you live Stephan… 

    Some damn racist propaganda has definitely turned you to the Dark Side!  Why on earth would people Always freak out inside because they saw a Colored Man, Muslim, Hindu, Korean, Nordic, Russian, Mongolian, or any other race/color/religion…?  I Served from 1987-1995 in the Army (which is full of racist from all kinds of backgrounds against other from different backgrounds/heritage), and I have seen many injustices from many sides.  If I let that Hatred Consume Me, I would be an Agoraphobic and/or Possibly racist myself.  Instead, I let them ALL know that I Would Not Take Sides for Anybody That Was Not Doing The Right Thing!  I remained friends with all of them, even though they could not stand to be by each other.  If someone started something, I would always take the side of the underdog -or- those on the Right Side. I have stood on pretty much eveybody in my units side on time or another, and I would be told to step aside because they did not wish to hurt a friend.  I never stepped aside to allow racism to win!!!  Most times my obstanance would diffuse the situation, mainly because I have stood on the aggressors side when they were being preyed upon and would Never Take the Side of the Aggressors (Who for some reason were almost always on the wrong side of the argument if there was one to be had.).  There have been times when things did not diffuse and there was a fight, I have fought pretty much one time or another on every side and always walked away (plenty of people learned from me that Strength of Character and Body should be respected).  After quite a while I decided to throw a party and invited every soldier in my unit, I stated that I Was Not Going To Tolerate Any Racism/Trouble Very Clearly.  I invited everyone during a formation before anyone was released, I told them I would Beat Down Anyone Starting Crap and meant it.  I then asked if anybody would help me enforce my only rule of Zero Racism, and if they would to please stand behind me.  Pretty much without a lot of hesitation over 80% of them were behind me (looking at each other kind of funny because of the choice to be on the Right Side Together).  My company commander was surprised on how many stood behind me, and later told me that because of social issues he never thought he would see the unit take the Same Side Ever!  I had the party at a motel off base that allowed us soldiers to occupy every unit knowing that we wanted a huge party.  We had the most fun that night over any other I can remember while we were together in that unit.  The next day (those of us that could become conscious again) we all sat around the pool all day swimming, laughing, and drinking yummy margaritas.  You would never know at that moment how much those guys despised each at other times.  Did the good will last a long time (NO), but it showed them all that it is possible to get along without fighting/arguing over stupid issues like racism… I am alive and still doing the right thing!  Having influenced them was one of my greatest military accomplishment!

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Possibly, and for that matter since Zimmerman is Hispanic, Holder and others within the DOJ may have opened the door for their own trials on civil rights violations, and hate crimes for a politically motivated prosecution based on race.

    The last one especially, for even the media may be vulnerable to such, since the left has supported the immigration-amnesty among Hispanics they had to turn Zimmerman into a white-man. That is blatant racism and hatred, and in my opinion, something they should face account for in the court.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    That is genuine hate, racism and bigotry on your part right there. Open your eyes.

  • Anonymous

    Your notion here would be correct even if Zimmerman actually WAS white.  The vehement accusations of racism towards Zimmerman are so insidious that they completely embody racism in and of themselves.  The only civil suit that can rightfully be brought forth would be from Zimmerman, against Al Sharpton, Bernie de la Rionda, and whoever else is grilling him wrongly.  My guess is that he simply just wants to be left alone.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    Wow what a racist you are. Are you trying to trample on MLK’s dream of all men being treated equal while I don’t think Zimmerman was completely innocent the court made the only choice they could under the law with no evidence to support the State. You racist truly think we white people hate you know we don’t. I know they don’t hate me for being a mixed race. my first love was a black woman. We don’t hate you. You just buying into the racist bull of the liberal Democratic Party that wants us divided by race and you are falling for the bigot racist like Al Sharpton.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    Look man you have no clue what you’re talking about stop falling for the bull of the Party that started the KKK.

  • Guest2414

    I don’t much care for your Racist ass either.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    It sad people like him have been feed a load of bull from
    birth that we are the bogyman. He only sees hate and race.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    I feel sorry for him. Never knowing what the world is truly like outside of his race bubble.

  • Guest2414

    I put my guard up whenever I pass people like you. You stand out in the crowd as a racist. 

  • Stephan Bruno

    You know what. You white people do not recognize anyone’s pain but your own. We black and brown fight your wars, feed your children, work in your mills, and we are nothing to you but a commodity or at best your consumers. You want us to cry for 6 Million white Jews but look at our 100 million sold into slavery as a proverbial oops moment in your crooked and thievery laden perverted white history. I hate you white people. You cast us against each other by providing a small few with means as you select a  few house niggers to cast envy against the rest of us. I hate your liberal white offspring that think they do what they do to shun there white parents all the while just doing what there crooked fathers want them to do. I hate your conservative elders that do what they do even knowing what they do is evil. 

    The white race is the offspring of the devil. And the saddest part is that the rage or the pity you feel right now reading this post is not of my making. It is the vile nature of the bloodline you carry not being able to contain itself when it sees the truth. 

    But soon your reign will end. It is inevitable.  

  • laura

    The person who should be tried is Holder! POS!

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    I have to agree.

  • Anonymous

    Word on that brother.  There’s just no reason for him to feel that way.

  • Anonymous

    Whew!! Sounds like you need a one way ticket to Africa.

  • http://www.fringefiles.com/fringepedia/w//index.php DocH

     The definition of Flame Bait…

  • Anonymous

    I don’t feel rage towards you, OR pity.  Number 1, you’ve already been wrong about me twice.  Number 2, everything you wrote here is wrong.  Are you Louis Farrakhan’s fucking adjutant?  I cited civil rights leaders, revealed to you that I’m very familiar with what they have to say, and you still go at it.  The number 1 racist is YOU.  You embody bigotry.  Every word of your rant here is a sham.  I know a place for you that’s nice and toasty, and believe me, if you can’t tone down your rhetoric you’ll be there some day.  Are you contending that no white people are good?  Are you contending that all black people are perfect?  You’re an idiot liar with a MAJOR agenda.  I wouldn’t even dignify your post with a response, but alas, I want you to pull your soul out of the mire of hatred and towards God’s love.  Ironically, everything you THINK white people stand for is principally exactly what YOU are.  You are what you hate.  I think you hate yourself first and foremost and are projecting it onto white people.  

  • Anonymous

    By the way, I’ve read and thoroughly studied all of the following works, as I mentioned before the Autobiography of Malcolm X, MLK’s letters from the Birmingham jail, Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass an American Slave, Uncle Tom’s Cabin, To Kill a Mockingbird, A Time to Kill, Sons of the City (by Scott Flander, a fiction work that touches on the tension between blacks and Italians in Philadelphia), and Abraham Lincoln a Life by Thomas Keneally.  I suggest these works to you, alongside the Holy Bible.  You’re not a good person or a good black person or a good example to your children or anybody.  
    I’ve dedicated a lot of my time to trying to understand people who are different from me.  But what good is it when pieces of shit like you besmirch the efforts of a lot of people who you would probably like if you just gave them the chance to be your friend?  
    As an aside, I’ve lived in the ghetto and sold drugs and brandished weapons on the block alongside affiliated gang members.  I have a bad past.  Believe me, I understand the tension between blacks and whites and cops in between.  I have street cred and a mind of my own, and it tells me YOU are full of crap.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    Look at you comment just look at it. You call us racist but yet I have never read such vile racism on this web site in all the two years since I have been coming here. You listen to people like Al Sharpton and Farrakhan and this is what you get heart full of hate and blood lust. I feel sorry for you that you hold so much hate in your heart for the white race but I don’t blame you for you been brain washed by the very party who started the KKK. Those people who you look up to is destroying your race and making them slaves again your hate is a product of this but yet you been programed to think we that have some white ancestry in us we are nothing but sub human. They don’t give a damn about you they just you your outrage and anger to control you and to make money off your short sightedness. You are treating us like the very people who MLK was fighting. Keep all this hate in your heart it is going to eat what’s left of your soul and turn you into a mindless slave to true racism to true hate. Do you want to be a slave all your life or truly be free? If you want freedom than drop your hate and turn from the people who filled you head with bull and lies. Be a free man.

  • Mike Nelson

    If you weren’t being deadly serious, this would be laughable.

    Your entire post is racist in nature; it’s funny how you project that onto someone else when you are the picture of the discrimination that you see in others.

    I think you need a hug :)

  • Mike Nelson

    Have you tried being less of an ass? :)

  • Mike Nelson

    I hesitate to tell you to be more black, but maybe you could find it somewhere deep down to be less of an ass.

  • Anonymous

    holder needs to mind his own business,the snake.more taxpayers $ going down the rabbit hole.

  • Anonymous

    your rant is meandering at best;poorly written,racist and evil. feed our children? really? you odd duck!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

    Don’t let his foolishness get to you. fools mock wisdom after all and we all know he is going to mock us both when he returns.

  • Anonymous

    I know dude.  You’re right.

  • http://www.ripit.com/fastpitch-bats/ Heather Henderson

    The Martin family needs to move on. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    I do agree with Dana on this one. The threshold for a civil rights case or a hate crime case, its very high . . . I do believe Mr. Z racially profiled this kid, but that’s no mean he is a racist. I have profile whites before and I’d been wrong, there are horns and halos in every ethnic group in this country. Like MLK said, we need to look at the character of the individual, not the race. Cause 80% of sexual predators in this country happen to be white and 80% of massacre killings happen to be white too, but I will never say all whites are crazy and sick . . . Let’s move on!

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    Damn! That’s easy to say for you, because you didn’t lost a child with a gun shot (maybe?). I believe that comment was very unsensitive when you don’t know what’s in their hearts and minds. Mr. Z, in self-defense, or not, killed a 17 y.o. kid with a bag of candy, who was walking to spend some time with his dad. If the kid was a trouble-maker, that’s no a reason to kill him, plus he was not committing any crime. Treyvon got caught up in a bad beat with someone who wanted to be a “cop wannabe”. Tragedy happened . . .

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    Come down fellas! We don’t need more violence between Americans now. Our country is highly divided already and both sides are at fault for that. We need to come together as fellow Americans or it will be NO MAN’S LAND for everyone, no matter what race or color or party you are part of . . . God’s justice will prevail and if Mr. Z is really guilty karma will come upon him someday. My father used to tell me, “whoever kill by the gun, will die by the gun”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    Come down fellas! We don’t need more violence between Americans now. Our country is highly divided already and both sides are at fault for that. We need to come together as fellow Americans or it will be NO MAN’S LAND for everyone, no matter what race or color or party you are part of . . . God’s justice will prevail and if Mr. Z is really guilty karma will come upon him someday. My father used to tell me, “whoever kill by the gun, will die by the gun”.

  • Klaas Fokkema

    All this because of the “white his panic”.

  • Anonymous

    If you believe in God then you should believe that God will extend his justice towards Zimmerman. He isn’t guilty of course, but I’m saying just hypothetically it would be GOD bring forth justice and not KARMA, since KARMA is a Buddhist concept.

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, I see plenty of white faces fighting those wars. You do not feed my or anyone else’s children, we work for what we have. By the way, plenty of white people worked those jobs before you illegal P O S’ showed up. 100 million “sold” into slavery, by their own people, dunce. I dispise people like you, you have no work ethic, morals and seem to like playing the victim. Everyone else is the problem, as you never bother to look in the mirror. No personal responsibility is ever taken by people like you. It’s always someone else’s fault for where you are or not.
    Our reign will end soon? You are a moron of epic proportions.

  • greywolfrs

    Except he is NOT black, he is hispanic. He took down the picture of his fat ass or you would be able to see that.

  • greywolfrs

    Well said and straight to the point…

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    Mr. Z, in self-defense, or not, killed a 17 y.o. kid with a bag of
    candy, who was walking to spend some time with his dad. If the kid was a
    trouble-maker, that’s no a reason to kill him, plus he was not
    committing any crime. Treyvon got caught up in a bad beat with someone
    who wanted to be a “cop wannabe”. Tragedy happened . . .

  • David Snider

     i agree… but also want to add if they had raised Travon better he would still be alive. it was a tragic death. but lets face it kid was a punk who liked to fight

  • David Snider

    I think we need to Run holder out of office … along with obama,biden,clinton and the whole lot

  • Anonymous

    This
    administration only responds for personal gain. They do not lead! They insist
    everyone eat healthy food to insure physical safety, but not how to act in
    healthy ways that insures mental health, safety, honor and responsibility. In
    this case they could at least advise organized neighborhood watch organizations
    how to affectively watch unknown visitors without war-like conflict and for
    parents to not allow their under age children to dress in gang attire.

     

    This
    socially and legally inept administration needs to be carefully watched 24
    hours a day until they are removed.

  • Anonymous

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  • Crystal Offermann

    Let’s all band together: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/civil-rights-prosecution-angela-corey-united-states-department-justice-she-deliberately-withheld/pGTglGG2
     
    Civil Rights Prosecution of Angela Corey by United States Department of Justice for She Deliberately Withheld Evidence
    Civil Rights Prosecution of Angela Corey by United States Department of Justice for the unlawful Prosecution of George Zimmerman for depriving him of his Constitutional Rights of Life and Liberty by the United States Department of Justice, Eric Holder, United States Attorney General in United States District Court as swiftly and expeditiously as is possible.
    Angela Corey is alleged to have omitted material exculpatory facts, such as photographs of the wounds on George Zimmerman’s head, which go to his defense of “self defense.”
    She was aware when she submitted an affidavit that it did not contain the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. She deliberately withheld evidence that supported Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense.
     
    Created: Jul 14, 2013
    Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties, Criminal Justice and Law Enforcement, Government Reform Learn about Petition Thresholds It’s up to you to build support for petitions you care about and gather more signatures. A petition must get 150 signatures in order to be publicly searchable on WhiteHouse.gov.
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    Signatures needed by August 13, 2013 to reach goal of 100,000