Senator Mike Lee: “Tell them to fund the government, not Obamacare”

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This morning on radio, Senator Mike Lee joined the program to talk to Glenn about the growing effort in the Senate to block any continuing resolutions that will fund Obamacare. According to Senator Lee, and the Senators standing with him, this could be the last chance to stop the unpopular law from fundamentally changing the country and the role of government in our daily lives forever. Senator Lee believe that the reason he and so many others were elected to office in 2010 was in direct response to the passing of the health care law. If they don’t stop it, they’ve failed, so he says it’s their responsibility to try.

If the American people understand what’s on the table, Senator Lee thinks there is a real chance of success. Will the American people take action to stop Congress from passing any continuing resolutions that will fund Obamacare? Watch the full interview above or read the transcript below to see what the Senator says you can do to get involved and help stop funding for Obamacare.

Full Transcript:

GLENN: let’s go to Senator Mike Lee who is on with us.  He has ‑‑ he and Rand Paul and Ted Cruz, among others, have put together a movement that really does need to become a movement, and I’m asking the TEA Parties, I’m asking the churches, I’m asking the 9/12 project, I’m asking anyone within the sound of my voice to get involved and lead this.  This has to be a movement.  By September 30th, the Senate has to be convinced.  41 Republicans ‑‑ or 41 senators need to be convinced to defund the president’s healthcare.  This is coming in a continuing resolution.  Harry Reid is going to say the Republicans are trying to shut down the government, et cetera, et cetera.  Not true.  It’s not even trying to ‑‑ in my view not even trying to shut down universal healthcare but trying to make sure that the Constitution and our system is protected.  The president is picking and choosing what parts of laws now to enforce.  He can’t do that.  This was passed as a package in a certain way.  It’s falling apart, so he’s saying without congress, “Well, I’m only going to do this part and this part.”  Well, that’s not what the law ‑‑ that’s not how it works.  And Senator Lee is making this case, but he needs you to call your senator and get involved.  And Mike Lee is here to talk to us about it just a little bit.
 
Mike? 
 
LEE:  It’s good to be with you, Glenn.  Thank you very much. 
 
GLENN:  Did I ‑‑ am I miscasting this at all? 
 
LEE:  No, no.  That was perfect.  I mean, look.  We were elected, a whole bunch of Republicans, to the House and to the Senate in 2010 with one very simple mandate:  Get rid of ObamaCare.  Stop it.  And since we took office, we’ve passed CR after CR that continued to fund ObamaCare.  I understand why that happened, even though I didn’t vote for those.  You know, a lot of people thought the Supreme Court would strike down ObamaCare.  It didn’t.  A lot of people thought we would elect a Republican president and he would stop ObamaCare; that didn’t happen, either.  We’ve got one last shot.  This is the final stop on the ObamaCare Express Train before these things kick in on January 1st.  We’ve got to defund it, we’ve got to defund it now.  We’ve got to have all Republicans who purport to be against ObamaCare to say that they will draw a line in the sand they will not cross and that line is they are not going to fund ObamaCare. 
 
GLENN:  I was talking to a senator the other day, and he told me that the Republicans are worse than you think, Glenn.  He said they’re doing the same old thing and what one Republican suggested in, I guess your meetings or whatever, what one of these guys suggested was that they just pass a nonbinding resolution to stand against universal healthcare and said, just do that because the president is just going to continue to fight.  He’ll die on his sword on this one.  We’ve got to give up because he never will. 
 
LEE:  That’s right.  And that would make the Republicans in congress much like the unarmed English bobby who upon seeing the commission of a crime yells “Stop or I’ll yell stop again.”  We’ve become totally Feckless and we can’t law that to happen.  That would be devastating to the Republican Party, to the conservative cause and to the country as a whole. 
 
GLENN:  You said, Mike, when I first talked to you, somebody had told me that you were going to run, and I didn’t know you and I said “I want to talk to him.”  And I called you and you pulled your car off to the side of the road.  You and your wife were driving in through a canyon and you were going to lose the phone connection.  And I asked you a pretty pointed question about how was your soul, and you answered in the right way.  And then we started ‑‑ I said, what do you know about the Constitution?  And you started talking to me about how you were raised on the Constitution.  And it sounded to me like you were brought up for this time or times like these to protect the Constitution.  Forget about ObamaCare here for a second and tell me a little bit about the Constitution and why, why this has to be stopped because, do you believe at all that it is going to put the final nail in the coffin of congress or in the Senate to where the president doesn’t need approval, doesn’t even really need to go to you guys; he can just interpret laws the way he wants? 
 
LEE:  Yes.  That’s a big problem.  So this strikes at the heart of two very big problems in our republic.  One is the problem of federalism being ignored.  Federalism refers to the fact that most of the power under the Constitution is supposed to be retained by the people, to be exercised locally and at the state level.  Only a few powers are supposed to go to the federal government, and the power to tell us where to go to the doctor and how to pay for it and that we have to buy a certain kind of health insurance is not among them.
 
The other part of that power, separation of powers that you were just referring to, the laws are supposed to be made by congress, not by the court which rewrote ObamaCare twice in order to uphold it after finding that it was unconstitutional as written, and not in the president, who has now amended ObamaCare twice, once in saying individuals have to comply with the law during the first year but employers don’t.  And then it’s saying we’re not even going to require people to prove their income based on their eligibility, in order to establish their eligibility for ObamaCare subsidies.  And so this really is about the Constitution, Glenn.  It’s not just about a single policy.  This is about the protection of an institution that has made this the greatest civilization the world has ever known.  This document was put here to make men and women free.  It was written by wise men who I think were raised up for that very purpose, to establish and protect freedom.  This is being threatened actively by our president and we as Republicans will be complicit if we vote to fund ObamaCare yet again before it kicks in. 
 
GLENN:  Okay.  Mike, the American people are tired, they don’t believe most people in congress, they don’t believe their voice makes a difference, they’ve marched, they’ve talked, they’ve done all kinds of things.  Somebody’s calling Pat the right now to say, hey, I’m ‑‑ I’m part of that.  Some of us would turn our phone off in a broadcast, but ‑‑
 
PAT:  Some of us probably thought it was. 
 
GLENN:  That would only be one of us.  Anyway, so the people are tired and they think ‑‑
 
PAT:  That’s not mine.  That’s not mine! 
 
STU:  That was Glenn’s the whole time? 
 
GLENN:  I don’t own a phone.  I don’t own a phone.  So it’s not mine. 
 
PAT:  I just threw mine out. 
 
GLENN:  No, you didn’t.
 
PAT:  Oh, no, I didn’t. 
 
GLENN:  It’s right there.
 
PAT:  There it is. 
 
GLENN:  Oh, it is yours! 
 
LEE:  What do you mean you don’t own a phone?  You rent with an option to buy? 
 
GLENN:  I don’t carry a cellphone.  Anyway, the thing that I wanted to have you address is people don’t believe that you guys ‑‑ and I’m not saying you, but many in the congress and in the Senate are not serious, that this is some sort of, you know, nonbinding resolution, that their voice won’t make a difference, et cetera, et cetera.  Please address to the people what you think they need to do and why this time it will make a difference and this time it is imperative that you do it. 
 
LEE:  Okay.  This time it will make a difference because the people can express in clear unequivocal terms that they understand Republicans in congress are in one of two camps:  Those who are for ObamaCare and those who are against it.  If they really are against it as basically all Republicans in congress claim to be, then they must indicate that they are against it by agreeing that they will not vote to fund ObamaCare.  They won’t vote for any continuing resolution that contains money for further enforcement and implementation of ObamaCare.
 
There are a couple of ways you can get that message across:  First, call your senators and call your congressmen and tell them in those very simple terms “Don’t vote for any CR that contains ObamaCare funding.” 
 
GLENN:  CR is continuing resolution? 
 
LEE:  Continuing resolution.  Don’t vote for any funding mechanism that contains ObamaCare funding.  Number two, you can sign a petition that we’ve got going on my website, Lee.Senate.gov.  Go to Lee.Senate.gov, and click on the link that says “Don’t fund it.”  You click on that link, you can sign a petition.  You can sign up with a letter that I’ve written that I’m having other senators sign.  You can join that same letter telling Harry Reid that we don’t want any funding mechanism to fund ObamaCare. 
 
GLENN:  And you think Harry Reid ‑‑ I mean, let me just play this out.  Harry Reid is going to with the president say they are going to try to stop congress, they are going to shut down the government.  These Republicans are out to destroy the government.  They want to shut it all down.”  That’s what they’ll do. 
 
LEE:  Sure.  Maybe that’s where they will go because that’s where their political instincts and their reflexes tell them to go.  They are so used to saying that, it just comes out naturally.  But the reason that this petition is so important at Lee.Senate.gov and these phone calls are so important is because once he sees that that’s where the people are and that’s where their elected representatives are, he will see that it’s going to have to be him.  It’s not us trying to do that.  We don’t want a government shutdown.  We shouldn’t have a government shutdown.  We want to avoid that.  And what we’re saying is if he wants a government shutdown simply because he so badly wants to push through the implementation of a law that is so bad for the American people that makes health insurance costs go way up that’s made fundamentally unfair because corporations don’t have to comply with it but individuals do, once he sees that, he will realize he’s going to have to shut down the government and I don’t think he can do that, not for a law that’s this unstable, that’s this unpopular. 
 
GLENN:  Mike, I appreciate it, and I appreciate the stance that you and a handful of senators are making.  You need 41 from either side to stand with you? 
 
LEE:  Yeah, we need 41 senators to stand with us on this.  And I don’t care whether they are Republicans or Democrats, but we need 41 senators who are willing to say we’re not going to vote for are any continuing resolution or other appropriations bill that contains ObamaCare funding.  In other words, the message is fund the government, not ObamaCare.  That’s what we want to do.  That’s what our movement is about. 
 
GLENN:  How bad is the pressure on both sides? 
 
LEE:  Well, it’s intense.  It’s intense.  You know, already you’ve got Democrats, the White House and Democrats in the Senate accusing us of going where they themselves would take us according to their words, and you’ve got a lot of Republicans who don’t agree with the strategy so far.  But I think once they think about it, once they realize what we were sent here to do, I hope and expect that a lot of Republicans will decide to join onto this effort because it’s what the American people demand and it’s what the country needs. 
 
GLENN:  Well, Mike, I’ve talked to many senators and many congressmen in the last couple of weeks and I have never seen their concern as great as it is right now and I think we are ‑‑ we’re at the end of the road.  Our Constitution hangs in the balance unlike it ever has before.  I would think that you would agree with me on that. 
 
LEE:  I do. 
 
GLENN:  And this is it.  And by September 30th, this really could be it.  This could be it. 
 
LEE:  That’s right.  And we’ve got to help people understand that so that we can resist the impulse that Republicans in congress seem to have.  It’s almost an epidemic, Glenn.  The impulse is always “Let’s live to fight another day.”  Better said, it would be let’s live another day so that we cannot fight another day and say live to fight another day.  This is the fight, and if we give up on this fight, the reason this is so important is that I think Republicans will lose power if we don’t do this because the people will look at it and say, “Look, there’s no difference anyway.  Why should we trust those guys to power when they promised to take power and stuff off ObamaCare and then all they do are make symbolic votes in that direction.” 
 
PAT:  Now, Mike, are you guys prepared to stand up and defend this when you are accused of trying to shut down the government?  “That’s all these people want to do is they’re anti‑government and that’s all they want to do is shut down the government,” who’s going to step forward when that begins and fight for this thing? 
 
LEE:  Well, we’re already facing that right now and so this is nothing new to us.  People are already saying that.  And our response is this is not about a government shutdown.  We don’t want that, we don’t need that, we’re trying to protect against that. 
 
PAT:  Yeah
 
LEE:  We’re saying you can protect against that if only you will fund government, not ObamaCare.  That’s what we want, that’s what we demand, that’s what the American people are going to demand and I invite all within the sound of my voice to join me in this effort, contact their senators and congressmen.  Tell them to fund government, not ObamaCare. 

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUrbEIqFl_Q Sam Fisher

    If I had my way we would not fund anything but the most
    basic things to keep this country safe. Like military Police firefighters and
    paramedics. We don’t need this bull that is going to force us to but healthcare
    at even a higher rate than when Obamacare was passed. It does not cut cost most
    Americans disapprove of it and many are worried that this bill is going to cost
    them their jobs. Thanks liberals for making the middle class homeless and
    keeping poor people living in the streets and giving those fatcats unions
    wanted pissed off workers that because of Obamacare making their employers cut
    their hours. Why else would unions support it and yet don’t have to take part?  

  • Anonymous

    The GOP needs to defund Obamacare and save this country from losing everything

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    It does not cut cost most Americans disapprove of it and many are
    worried that this bill is going to cost them their jobs. Thanks liberals
    for making the middle class homeless and keeping poor people living in
    the streets and giving those fatcats unions wanted pissed off workers
    that because of Obamacare making their employers cut their hours. Why
    else would unions support it and yet don’t have to take part in it?

  • Anonymous

    OBAMA – A BIG PUNK TRYING TO BE ANOTHER HITLER  –  ANOTHER LOSER PUNK.

  • Anonymous

    EVERY COUNTRY SHOULD STAND UP TO THE LIAR – CHEAT – CON-ARTIST OBAMA AND SAY  ===  GO AHEAD AND MAKE MY DAY OBAMA YOU PUNK.

  • Jim

    There should be a link to the petition right at the top of the story.

  • Jim

    Right here! http://www.lee.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/dont-fund-it

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.ackerman.182 Susan Ackerman

    I’m a Utah resident and was very, very skeptical about Mike Lee. He seemed like the kind of guy who always wanted to be a politician. I did vote for him because I thought he would be better than former-Senator Bennett, but I was worried. But I must say, he has been nothing short of STELLAR since he has been there. This is just the latest, and perhaps the best example. Thank you Senator Lee.

  • Anonymous

    What amazes me is that the critics of the line in the sand over the CR and defunding Obamacare are comparing this to the year Gingrich as Majority Leader shut down the government and Republicans paid for it in the next election.
    When are people going to understand that there is no next election for Republicans if we do not stop some of the drivel being passed in Washington.  It may mean that the House is lost to Dems, but what kind of government do we want?  I want one that is out of my life–my children’s education, my religion, my bedroom (no loss for them, really)and out of my healthcare.   We cannot afford to allow the IRS–the most powerful and probably most corrupt agency in America.  The IRS can harm you with little information because if you have money–I don’t–it costs a fortune to vindicate yourself over an audit.  It does not matter if you are right and paid all of your taxes–you still have to defend yourself to them and it costs big money.  We all need to “grow a pair” and quit thinking someone else is going to take care of it and we will just ride along on the coattails of those who do the risking.  The men and women who are willing to risk everything for us in Washington are few and far between.  Can we just go for it and support them with all we have?  The time is really growing short for this country.  If you are a religious person, you cannot sit back and think that God will see us through without any work on our part.  
    We are in a hijacked airplane–symbolically–do we have the courage to say, “let’s roll?”  Maybe we can do it for those brave and innocent souls.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jennifer.vanbuskirk.39 Jennifer VanBuskirk

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  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Congratulations.

    My own state is stuck with McCain and the turncoat Flake until the next election in which we can, hopefully, dump them for good and get true conservatives in place of two RINO’s.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=581834054 Ginny Auldridge

    I don’t carry a cell phone either, if somebody wants to track me, they will have to get on their feet and follow me around.

  • Anonymous

    There are only a handful of Senators who can be trusted and Mike Lee is one of them.  There are even fewer members of the US House of Representatives.

    It’s real simple, “We the people” cannot vote for anyone that supports ObamaCare.  This is the most destructive piece of legislation in our country’s history.  Many of the Democrats who initially supported it now stand against its implementation, now that they’ve had an opportunity to see how dysfunctional it actually is.

    Barry Hussein has one goal and one goal only, “Destroy the American way of life.”.  He must be impeached, tried for treason and executed.  We must send a message to all future presidents that not even the president is above the law.  Barry is a liar and a traitor and must be dealt with accordingly.

    I stand with Mike Lee and all of the US Senators and Representatives in the House who believe that ObamaCare must be stopped at all cost.  Congressman Dave Camp, Chairman of Ways & Means, can bring this whole thing down by simply refusing to spend a single dollar on the implementation of ObamaCare.  I encourage Chairman Camp to do just that.  If he does, he will go down in history as an American hero.  Chairman Camp can singlehandedly stop this, everyone should write him so that he knows America is behind him, should he choose to take a stand against this imperial president.  It’s time to end the reign of Barry Hussein.

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    if this doesn’t work, what will?  arizona governor jan brewer is pushing through on ocare and after hearing bachman’s nsa stance, i’m completely at a loss to understand what the hell is happening with ‘our’ side — i mean the ones who have already taken a stand are now acquiescing.   BUT i will call, sign — i always do.

  • Anonymous

    our problem is harry Reid He doesn’t want to work with any Republicans! He says his way or the highway, Harry Reid needs to be fired! same for pelosi, obama,waters,jacksonlee,rangel…list goes on, democRats are socialists and do not care about this country only their Utopian agenda

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know why ANY Democrats or ANYONE ON THIS COUNTRY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would support Obamacare.  It was a blatant bypass of the commerce clause in the name of a blatant attempt at nationalized medicine.  We are so stupid in this society that we forgot one very important principle, health insurance premiums didn’t go up because insurance companies are lazy.  They went up because everybody stopped taking care of their body and are reaping the health hazards that they’ve sown.  We all got laptops now, with wifi.  We can now go anywhere and sit and be lazy instead of taking a jog or riding a bike or going kayaking etc., etc.  We don’t get a good night’s sleep anymore. Instead we go out and drink ourselves stupid all night and get about four hours sleep a night.  That way we have to drink five cups of coffee a day just to get rid of the hangover and make it through work.  If people continue to have it in their head that THEIR health is someone else’s responsibility, why should they live a healthy life?  We all need to start taking care of our bodies because that’s what keeps us out of the doctor’s office in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart the republicans are the obstructionists.  Voting 40 times to repeal obama care, proves their insane, doesn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    What makes obamacare so destructive?

  • Anonymous

    Obama care eliminated pre-existing conditions, any questions?

  • Anonymous

    There are no true conservatives, they’re all only false republicans.  They all believe in angels, and live in a fantasy land.  Isn’t that true?

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart I’m not sure if you need a drink, or a valium?  Probably both, calm down babe.  Obama is reading your emails and he ain’t  gonna be happy with you.  You better apologize before it’s too late!

  • Anonymous

    Definitely like Mike Lee.  We are fortunate enough to have Ted Cruz in the great state of TEXAS.  They are both go getters, but you have have to have the rest of the Republicans on your side in order to get anything done.  Unfortunately, they are listening to McCain and Graham.  The old guard needs to be replaced and get new blood in that have morals, character and will stand and support the people in their states.  We have to defund obamacare no doubt about it, but there will be fight from the left.  That is obama’s baby and they the left will do anything to get it  implemented.   A real shame for the folks that have to sign up for it.  Don’t see why we don’t get passes, all the unions and big business did!!!

  • Anonymous

    Sam baby how has Obama care affected you?  Be specific please.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUrbEIqFl_Q Sam Fisher

    No job for one. My sister’s healthcare going from 50 a month to 200 am month and more family members are like that. so you see you liberal morons screwed the poor in the rear instead of help us. so take your fake charity and shove it all up your ass.

  • Anonymous

    No question for you, I wouldn’t learn anything from you moron. Eliminated pre-existing conditions?? That’s a bad thing! THAT drives up costs!

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, Hairy Balls has over 60 bills sitting on his desk that passed the House. He refuses to bring any of them for debate or a vote. That is being an obstructionist. You are a moron of epic proportions.

    P.S. You really should stop hitting on all the married men on this site. I know you can never suck enough dick, but leave us straight guys alone.

  • greywolfrs

    Maybe the fact that it is going to cost MORE than the old system. Fool.

  • greywolfrs

    Fuck you and Obamao, moron.

  • Anonymous

    I am curious about something.  When Obamacare was passed and spoken about, the costs were described as penalties–not taxes.  Then good ol’ John Roberts changes it and declares it is a tax and that makes it constitutional.   One of the few pieces of legislation that does not need a Senate of 60 yes votes, are bills that are taxes–they only require 51 votes, both passing them and getting rid of them.  If Obamacare is a tax, then it should be easier to get rid of it.  That is the impression I got when it was first declared constitutional…

  • Guest

    Senator Mike Lee: a one-man death panel for millions of Americans who need health care insurance but can’t afford it.

    We will not go back to health for the rich, and only the rich. 

  • Guest

    When you have your facts wrong, you show arrogance in your ignorance by insulting someone’s IQ, a typical Beckerhead tactic. That’s just one reason why rational people ignore you and your sleazy, reactionary hero.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/health/health-plan-cost-for-new-yorkers-set-to-fall-50.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Gadamer too

    That’s mighty “Christian” of you “Sam”…hypocritical prick! 

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Gadamer too

    By “true conservatives” you would be more honest in informed to write reactionaries. Conservatives want to conserve; reactionaries want to destroy the status quo.

    Beck and his sheeple are hard-core reactionaries, far, far, far out of the mainstream, even in AZ.

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart name some of the bills that Reid has refused to vote on.  Be specific.  Thanks

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart what proof or evidence can you post to prove that obamacare will cost more, and to who? Be specific, thanks.

  • Anonymous

    You forgot the BATTA-BING!!  Whenever you deliver a good BITCH-SLAP!!  you’re supposed to add a BATTA-BING!!  I do a public acess T.V. show tell me what you think?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6oztR_G7ZE

  • Anonymous

    You can’t be this stupid, can you?  The idea behind health insurance is to cover the folk’s who need it.  Why do you put insurance companies before the people, what’s wrong with you?  Has the 1% turned your brain into shit?

  • Anonymous

    What’s wrong sweetheart?  Am I pissing you off?  Be happy I haven’t started pissing on you, and your conservative friends.

  • Anonymous

    So sam it seems you don’t have a job, do you?  I’ve got good news for you.  In january (thanks to obamacare) you’ll have insurance.  You will no longer be a 2nd class citizen, you should be very happy.  You’re one of the takers, who will benefit from obamacare.  You’re a bigger lier then you led me to believe.  Sammy can you post the proof that your sisters insurance quadrupuled in price.  Be specific please.  Thank you

  • Guest

     No

  • Guest

     In case you haven’t noticed,  no one is paying attention to your Victor
      blatherings, they are busy talking about the topic of this board.

  • Guest

     In case you haven’t noticed,  no one is paying attention to your moronic blatherings, they are busy talking about the topic of this board.

  • Guest

      In case you haven’t noticed,  no one is paying attention to your
    moronic blatherings, they are busy talking about the topic of this
    board.

  • Guest

     In case you haven’t noticed,  no one is paying attention to your
    moronic blatherings, they are busy talking about the topic of this
    board.

  • Guest

    It already is. Do a little research, use Google

  • Guest

     In case you haven’t noticed,  no one is paying attention to your
    moronic blatherings VICTOR, they are busy talking about the topic of this
    board.

  • Guest

     What we think is that you’re an idiot.

  • Guest

     Proves they know better – that the Socialist programs will destroy the quality and availability of health care. Check it out in other countries. Not only that, logic, which you are lacking can tell you that. Unfortunately for you, you lack the critical thinking skills necessary to ascertain anything logical.

  • Guest

     Use Google to look them up instead of using your time wasting tactics on others. Google Reid Block Bill and find all the bills and amendments for jobs,  immigration, appropriations, guns, Obama’s tax plan, Border security, student loans etc.  Disprove what greywolfrs  claims or STFU.

  • Guest

     The liar here is you.

  • Guest

     Just what is hypocritical?

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart you’re making the claim, you supply the proof.  THat’s how it works honey.  This is what keeps “simple-folk” from making any claim they want.  See how this works.  When you make a claim you need facts and figures to back them up?  Did I tell you I batted 797 in high school?  See sweety , show me the proof?

  • Watch it

    “We will not go back to health for the rich, and only the rich.”
     
    If the rich are 1% of the population, then how is it that about 90% of the population who wanted insurance had it before Obamacare? Half the people who didn’t have it, didn’t want it. Under Obamacare, millions still will not have it.

  • Guest

     Be happy his conservative friends  haven’t started pissing on you.

  • Guest

    As I said, honey buns, use Google to find it instead of making people waste their time to prove to you what they know. But, sweet cheeks, you probably already know it is true – you are just trying to aggravate people and make them waste their time laying out the actual proof for you. Sweety, that is a tactic used by liberals to make their opponents waste time responding or cause them to give up because they don’t want to waste their time. You want proof? Here it is sweetums, pages upon pages…. better grab your little hanky.

    http://www.google.com/search?as_q=reid+block+bill+amendment&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=%22republicans+block%22&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&tbs=&as_filetype=&as_rights=

  • Guest

    “simple-folk” like you need to learn to look thinks up – Google is a simple tool, even you could use it.

  • Guest

     Gee Vicky that’s what you do, but then you are the original Peckerhead Beckerhead.

  • Guest

     How funny that you would publicly make an ass of yourself like that. Your audience reminds me of the Howdy Doody audience I have seen in old films. LMAO!
     
    BATTA-BING!! …. you’ve been BITCH-SLAPPED!!

  • Guest

    Sam, don’t fall for his “be specific” crap. He is trying to make you waste your time. Make him prove otherwise.

  • Anonymous

     crazy stupid

  • Anonymous

    You will do what you are told..idiot

  • greywolfrs

    You would do nothing of the sort, you would be in the hospital or morgue long before you ever got to that point. Punk bitch.

  • greywolfrs

    The CBO has already said it will cost more than first estimate. In fact, they said the cost would be more than what the Feds already pay in Medicare and Medicaid combined. You stupid fool.

  • greywolfrs

    Look it up yourself. Although you will need to get away from the left wing shills to find it. Moron.

  • greywolfrs

    New York is not only place in the US. The Los Angeles Times has reported the cost through exchanges as going up by 20-60%, depending on where one lives. The CBO has revised the cost to the Federal Government and it is WAY more than what Obamao and Democraps said. In the end, it turns out it will cost MORE than Medicaid ever did. You are a fool, vicki tiffany the coward.

  • Anonymous

    no vacmancan’t.  There are true conservatives and I’m one of them as you’ll see when I reply to some of your off base retorts to others in this conversation.

  • Anonymous

    vacamancan – do you have health insurance?  My premiums have done nothing but go straight up since the passage of this piece of crap legislation, Obamacare was supposed to save me money, it has not and it will not.  In addition, Obamacare was supposed to cover all Americans.  Now we find that an unbelieveable number of folks have received Obamacare waivers (mostly Democrats, Progressives and Unions), and last but certainly not least, remember the millions of folks that didn’t have health insurance before the Obamacare BS began, now it’s projected that more than that will be without healthcare after Obamacare because they’ve been moved from full time employees with benefits to part time employees without benefits. 

    I have been an employer and job creator since 1984.  I’ve always paid 100% of my employees health insurance premiums.  That will no longer be possible under Obamacare.  Premiums will be astronomically high and the coverage will be significantly less.  I guess from some people’s seat in the stadium that’s good, from mine it is not, it is far far worse.  Perhaps you should become a little more familiar with the facts as they affect small business people like myself.  My companies generally employ between 28 and 35 full time people, are technology related and pay people very well.  This used to be a perk I could use to hire and retain top notch talent.  With the constantly changing costs, options and coverages, this will no longer be the tremendous benefit it used to be and believe me, my costs to provide this benefit were significantly higher than the $2,000 per employee penalty for not providing coverage. 

    Barry Hussein and Nancy Pelosi have never run a business or employed anyone, except folks sucking up everything they can at the public trough, so they have no idea of the “destruction” they have caused to the healthcare in general and small businesses specifically.

    Will Barry and Nancy be on Obamacare like the rest of us, or will they have a plan more like the old ones Americans used to be able to get?  Right answer – they will have a special plan because they are well aware of how bad Obamacare sucks. 

    Com on up out of your mom’s basement and see what’s really been going on. 
     

    You wanted facts, those are the facts. 

  • Anonymous

    It’s sounds like our guest is a Barry Hussein worshipper so he’d no a lot about hypocrisy.  Sam is absolutely right which makes him normal with the ability to recognize BS when he sees it.  Our guest is living in tangentland.

  • Anonymous

    Vacmancan’t – Obamacare just got pushed a year for businesses and will soon get pushed for individuals as well.  Of course Obama the Great thought he could grant the year delay by executive decree, but nows he’s learning that the president can’t simply decide what parts of law to some and what parts apply to others, so the courts will soon prove that any exceptions Obama tries to selectively implement will simply not fly.

    Obamacare will soon be history as the many democrats who supported it bail on it.  If they don’t bail on it, they will not get reelected and they know it.  The unions are already starting to lead the parade away from Obamacare even though Barry has done all he can to shield them from its negative effects.

    Do you actually pay attention to what’s going on, or do you just spew forth BS?

    Do you remember that Barry saved Detroit from bankruptcy?  I’m from Detroit – last week they declared bankruptcy……..what universe are you living in?  Barry is a liar and a complete failure, it sounds like you may be his twin brother and chief butt kisser.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUrbEIqFl_Q Sam Fisher

    No because of Obamacare I am a third class citizen how is having no job to provide for myself a good thing moron and no I am not a lair it is reality?
    http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-insurance/302597-study-premiums-could-rise-average-of-40-percent-under-obamacare
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324063304578522893554786084.html
    One of many news sources dumb ass.

  • Anonymous

    That is exactly what’s going to happen.  So for all of you Progressives, Liberals and just plain out of touch folks, you can French kiss Obamacare goodbye.  Your wet dream is about to cum to a screeching halt.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUrbEIqFl_Q Sam Fisher

    Mighty liberal of you supporting a system that makes the rich even more powerful and keeps the poor from getting anywhere way to go dumb ass.

  • Anonymous

    Guest – perhaps you gather some facts and then come back.  Clearly you have no idea of what’s been going on for the past couple of years.  More people will be without health insurance ”IF” Obamacare is implemented, than were without health insurance before Obamacare.  That’s simply a fact.

    Everyone had access to the world’s best healthcare before Obamacare whether they had insurance or not.  That also is simply a fact.

    You don’t fix a relatively small problem by dismantling the world’s finest healthcare system and replacing it with terrible coverage, high premiums and lack of access, which creates a problem orders of magnitude greater than the original problem.

    Did you graduate from high school or are you working off the knowledge shared with you by your unionized, non-performance based high school teachers?  You’ll soon find out that those guys don’t really know quite as much as they’d like you to believe they do.  That’s why America’s public education system is in such great shape.

  • Anonymous

    No vacmancan’t it doesn’t.  Now that most Americans have discovered what BS Obamacare is and how much it will actually cost, the clear majority want it fully repealed. 

    So you and you circle jerk group can prepare yourself for a big change – Obamacare will NEVER get funding for implementation and the Democrats know they are about to lose the Senate because of Obamacare.  Now that Nancy passed it so we could find out what’s in it, WE don’t like it. 

    So sweetheart, prepare yourself for disappointment.  And the Republicans in the House who keep voting to repeal it, well that’s where the Ways & Means committee resides and they write the checks, for those of you who are Constitutionally challenged.  Barry Hussein would like to think he can do whatever he wants without the approval of Congress, well he’s about to find out that Chairman Camp writes the checks and Barry can’t simply assign one of his girlfriends to do that.  What a bummer that is for you and Barry.  No funding, means no Obamacare.  The Democrats lose the Senate in 2014, then both the Senate and the House will repeal Obamacare, and if Barry isn’t impeached by then he may be stupid enough to veto the repeal.  Then we’ll just have to wait until 2016, when we get an American president, and repealing Obamacare in it’s entirety will be the very first action taken by the new President.

    Hope that’s enough facts for you vacmancan’t.  Barry has tried his very best to destroy America, and like everything else in his life, he has failed.  But hey, you keep right on thinking he’s got it going on, even ignorant folks like you serve a purpose, you represent what’s the absolute worse in America, ignorance and a “the world owes me” attitude.  “We the people” owe you nothing “sweetheart”.

  • Anonymous

    OK vacmancan’t I’m going to give you something very specific and then I’m done trying to teach you about the US Constitution.

    The US Senate is required to pass a budget every single year.  When was the last time the US Senate under Harry Reid passed a budget?  Pretty tough “sweetheart”.

    The US House has passed budget every single year as required.  Has Barry managed to submit and pass a budget?  Nope.  He submitted a budget that didn’t even get 1 democratic vote.  Is this sinking in “sweetheart”.  I don’t think I’ll be watching you on YouTube any time soon.  Perhaps you should come out of play time and read a book, or better yet, read the Constitution before you start running your mouth.

    I’m hoping that we amend the Constitution to include not only a requirement to pass a budget, but a requirement to pass a balanced budget.  No exceptions.  And when the Federal government exceeds their budget by $1 all elected officials go back home “without pay”.  We continue to fund the military and their families.  We continue to pay Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare etc. and we hold special elections to replace the folks that couldn’t control their spending.  And the folks that got sent home without pay would be ineligible to run for reelection.

    That would solve our budget and deficit spending problems right now, not 10 years from now.

    So vacmancan’t – keep spewing forth your BS.  I’ve provided you with plenty of facts, now come out of playtime and try to educate yourself.  Maybe you could read a book, or better yet, read the Constitution.  Then you just may understand why Barry Hussein will more than likely be impeached.  I suspect you and your Progressive friends will be more than a little surprised when folks start being trying for treason as a result of Americans being murdered in Benghazi, Fast & Furious, the IRS violating their charter and targeting specific American’s at Barry’s direct instruction through his personal appointee, and finally the NSA spying on every American.  Yes you guys managed to pull it off, but you didn’t get away with it, you got caught.  And now the truth will come out and folks are going to be tried, convicted, some will go to prison for a very long time and others will be executed.

    The US Constitution will stand and those who tried to destroy it will pay.  You got caught “sweetheart” and now you and your friends will be held accountable.  Count on it.

    This marks the end of your remedial education on the US Constitution, the 3 separate and co-equal branches of government that Barry forgot about from his Constitutional Law classes, and what is about to transpire as a result of his intolerance, arrogance and total abuse of power by the entire Executive Branch.  You can now bend over and kiss your butt good bye.

  • Guest

     You are correct. I have read over the CBOs latest estimates.

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart obamacare is the law of the land get use to it.

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart what do you have against socialism?  We’re the greatest socialized country that ever existed.  Look how well social security works.  BATTA-BING!!  You need to watch my show.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwYxSaQPg3Q

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart what’s wrong with your logic.  If a budget is required every year, why isn’t there one?  Doesn’t required mean it has to be?  What held up the voting honey?  Could it be the obstructionists?

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart when you make a claim it’s up to you to provide the proof for that claim.  This way we keep people like you, from making assholes out of themselves, by saying things they can’t prove.  See how this works, honey?

  • Anonymous

    What makes you think Obamacare is going to cost more?  Post your evidence to prove your claim.  We’re not gonna let you get away with posting bullshit without any proof.  BATTA-BING!!

  • Anonymous

    Post it honey!  How many times do we have to tell you that?  Are you one of the “simple-folk”?  Post your proof sweetie.  Okay?

  • Guest

    Yeah, SS is working really great, that’s why the fund is going broke. BATTA-BING !!

    Stop spamming your lefty loony Youtube show.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah Sam don’t be specific, make up anything you want.  That’s the conservative way

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart you’re paying attention to me and that’s all I care about.

  • Guest

     How funny that Obama’s budget didn’t even get 1 democrat vote.

  • Guest

     Hypocrite.

  • Guest

    When President Obama was selling his health care legislation to Congress, he declared that “the plan I’m proposing will cost around $900 billion over 10 years.” But with the law’s major provisions set to kick in next year, a new analysis by the Congressional Budget Office projects that the law will cost double that, or $1.8 trillion.
     
    What accounts for the dramatic difference? It’s true that at the time of passage, the CBO said the gross cost of the law’s provisions to expand insurance coverage
    would be $940 billion over a decade. But as many critics of the health care law pointed out at the time, this number was deceptive because it estimated spending from 2010 through 2019 even though the program’s major spending provisions weren’t scheduled to go into effect until 2014. Effectively, the original estimate measured the cost of six years of Obamacare instead of 10.
     
    Now, as implementation approaches, CBO has released projections for the 2014 to 2023 budget window — the first actual decade of Obamacare — and the gross cost projection is $1.8 trillion.
     
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=cbo%20estimates%20obamacare%20%20costs&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwashingtonexaminer.com%2Fcbo-obamacare-costs-double-to-1.8-trillion-in-first-decade%2Farticle%2F2529655&ei=15D1Ue6_JbS-4APV1oGwBQ&usg=AFQjCNF4VDw9X62rzQ_tJIl68TgJNMKbCA&bvm=bv.49784469,d.dmg

     Cool, 1.8 trillion to cover how many million who couldn’t get coverage but wanted it? Do the math.  In addition to costing the government – oops I mean the taxpayers, to support this government program, it is increasing premiums for people who already have medical insurance.

  • Guest

     Sweetheart, let me reword that so you can comprehend it. People, including myself, may be reading what you have posted, but no one is giving consideration to your garbage. If that isn’t clear to you from their responses than you have a bigger comprehension problem than I thought BATTA-BING!! Consider your self BITCH-SLAPPED yet again.

  • Guest

    Where do you get your “facts,” Glenn Beck? WND? Fox “News?”  You are typically misinformed. 

    Everyone did not have access to health care because — this may shock you — they could not afford it. So they’d wait until it (their disease) became an emergency (or go to a rare, free clinic) when the costs of treating something much worse from waiting is much, much higher.

    Thousands of people dying every year from preventable deaths is not a “small problem.” 

    Union bashing only conveys your far-right, pro-corporate bias.

    I would have preferred the Canadian-type of single-payer where everyone contributes and everyone is covered, but Obama and most every other pol in Washington is there to represent corporations, not we, the people.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Gadamer too

    The rich, as I use it, are those of us who could either afford it or have it offered by our employers.

    Obamacare is not good enough; we agree on that.

  • Watch it

    I find your definition of “rich” strange, and misleading.

    There are people who are not even in the middle class income level who have medical insurance paid for by their employers, or 80-90% of it. I wouldn’t consider them “rich”, nor would I consider the middle class who have employer subsidized health insurance “rich”. I think most people in this country would agree with me, especially after all the fuss about the “rich” 1% .

  • Turdban

    Thank you, Senator Mike Lee and Senator Ted Cruz for sacrificially doing your best to halt the train wreck that is Obamacare.   God bless and help you to continue to speak for the majority of Americans who do NOT want this imposed on us.