Thanks Obamacare! Home Depot dumps healthcare coverage for part-time workers

Obamacare has now officially cost 20,000 part-time Home Depot employees their current health insurance plan, even though President Obama infamously promised:

OBAMA: There’s a guarantee that I’ve made. If you have insurance that you like, then you will be able to keep that insurance. If you’ve got a doctor that you like, you will be able to keep your doctor.

TheBlaze reports:

Home Depot Inc is shifting medical coverage for part-time workers to new public marketplace exchanges ahead of new benefits requirements under the U.S. Affordable Care Act, a spokesman said on Thursday.

Home Depot’s change would affect roughly 20,000 part-time workers who previously had chosen the limited liability medical plan the company offered, spokesman Stephen Holmes said.

After December 31, companies can no longer offer those plans under the health law, also known as Obamacare.

Home Depot’s announcement comes on the heels of a similar announcement from grocery chain Trader Joe’s Co.

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“During this healthcare debate we said, you know, companies are going to be dumping people into this exchange,” Pat said on radio this morning. “They’re going to drop their own healthcare, it’s going to cost people their healthcare. Well, Home Depot is shifting medical coverage for part-time workers to the new public marketplace exchanges ahead of new benefits requirements by the Affordable Care Act.”

“And it’s interesting because you said, Home Depot, they had a CEO who was Republican-leaning,” Stu added. “But Trader Joe’s is where you go to buy hummus. Okay? That’s where you go to buy hummus and pita. The boxes say grass fed when they’re selling meat. They actually have cloth bags. In fact, they give you discounts if you bring your bags back in. This is not some hard core right wing evil establishment.”

Remember way back in 2008 when Jacob S. Hacker, the liberal Yale scholar widely regarded as the originator of the ‘public option,’ said:

HACKER: Someone once said to me, ‘Well, this is a Trojan horse for single payer.’ I said, ‘Well, it’s not a Trojan horse, right? It’s just right there! I’m telling you!’

“That was the architect of the plan,” Pat said. “And he admitted it really early on.”

“And the reason it’s a single payer plan is because all these companies are going to say this makes no sense for us to keep them on our own rules, we’re going to have to push them into this government system because it makes no sense. It’s going to cost us too much money,” Stu continued. “So they do that. And then over time, the weight on the private system is too heavy and you have to give up and convert it to a single payer plan. That was the whole idea behind this President’s healthcare system. You’re seeing it in effect now. I mean, it was denied over and over again, not just by people on the left but also people in the media who said it was a scare tactic, who said there’s no truth in the fact that this President supports a single payer healthcare – even though we had him on record multiple times before he was running for President saying he was a supporter of single payer care.”

Despite the President, the media, and those on the left’s best attempts to convince the public that absolutely nothing will change as a result of the Affordable Care Act, we now know that is simply not the case.

“None of that is true. And we said at the time that won’t be true. People are going to have to drop the healthcare they currently have to you’re going to lose the doctor you currently have and it has happened millions of times since we said it,” Pat said. “It’s happening more and more and more and as this thing approaches, as this disaster looms ever closer, it’s all coming to fruition. The chickens are coming home to roost.”

Front page image courtesy of the AP

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Home Depot, Wal-greens and more are cutting their losses and doing what is good for their profits, and to stay in business.

    Obama-care is crippling the nations economy; how many more companies will dump their employees onto Obama-care? How many people will be put out of a job, or business will close due to unsustainable costs of government-mandated, government-controlled, government-enforced health care?

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Here is a question, how long until Holder on Obama’s orders begins to go after the non-leftists, non-Obama-donating, non-bribe-providing companies for ‘civil rights violations’ or some other fabricated reason to coerce them into providing health care?

  • Draxx

    In the Future they are going to look back and See That Obamacare Was The Worst Piece Of Legislation Ever…

    And when they watch the Videos of Pelosi and see her saying,”Just Sign The Bill And We Will See What’s In It Later!”, they are going to say what the hell were they thinking…

  • Draxx

    Even without Obamacare being enacted yet, my healthcare went down the toilet…  Now it is even worse day by day…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUrbEIqFl_Q Sam Fisher

    I thought Zombiecare or what others call Obamacare was suppose to be the future was meant to help the poor and the middle class. This is more proof the liberals hate the poor and the working class. They want us to follow this off a cliff like a bunch of mindless zombies and believe the propaganda of the White House and run us into the ground. I am sorry but I will not join Zombiecare and anyone that can get one this I suggest you follow me in my example so we can shut Zombiecare down for the liberal haters for they would rather see every man woman and child on the street than admit they where wrong.
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7bsm1f3SNI

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    The reality is and, everyone knows this, that getting health coverage through your employer when you are a part-time is nuts!! Premiums are too high and coverage is too weak. Most part-time workers in America do not have health insurance coverage cause THEY can afford it! That’s why they prefer to stay w/o coverage and if they get real sick they go to the ER or a Health Care Community Clinic, which it cost more to ALL of us, the tax payers. The AHC act is not perfect, but its better than the status quo the Republicans are cheering for. I still have not seen the conservative ideas or plans for 20-30 million people w/o health insurance and to stream-line our “upper-expensive” health care system . . . Americans still waiting . . .

  • ginger

    I have worked at The Home Depot for sixteen years and glad I have medicare…most of the young people and some of the middle aged who work there just don’t get it…but more and more of the young ones are slowly catching on…and yes..hours are cut..try to make your bills on 28 hrs or less. Thanks liberal idiots.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    U say it! They care only about profits and their stock holders, NOT the regular folks like you and me. I still waiting for the conservatives ideas and plans for our 20-30 million Americans w/o health insurance coverage. If we don;t do something YOU and Me will keep paying a very high cost for those folks everytime they go to the ER, so you prefer that??

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    So, it has nothing to do with ObamaCare stupid!! If your health care is private, cost will continue to go up more and more even if Obama was not in the WH. When u conservatives will get that?? I guess NEVER!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    They said that about SSA and Medicare when they were created and just ask OUR seniors now if they would have prefered not to have SSA and Medicare . . . .They might jump you!!
    Fact: No one likes big programs in the begining, but later after few years people begin to understand the why and where we going. We still can change it and improve it, so don’t buy the conservative rethoric . . .

  • B B

    Pachy does Obama care about regular folks? He gave his corporate contributors and crony capitalist buddies a big break by delaying the corporate mandate for a year but leaves you, a good liberal regular folk, hanging and twisting in the wind with no delay of the personal mandate for a year.
    And the ACA is intended to give health care to illegal aliens (that’s the 20-30 million they always talk about, NOT US citizens! along with the young who don’t want it) at the expense of the rest of us.

  • B B

    Those people (us) simply won’t get exemptions from the law like the unions are getting (SEIU) or about to get (AFL-CIO). Which means we get financially even more hammered. Like the old USSR, only party members get the big breaks and get to shop at the nice stores.

  • B B

    like waiting for Obama’s budgets which not one Democrat will vote for?

  • Anonymous

    It is not for a corporation to take care of you.  It is your JOB, they are paying for you to do what they need done.  It is a corporations sole job to make a profit and return it to the shareholders and investors.  If you don’t like that system I ask how much do you have in a 401K or other pension plan at work?

    As for the 30 million uninsured you speak of, well the GAO has said that when the ACA is fully in place, we will have 30 million people still without insurance.

    You worry about the cost of those going to the ER without health insurance and how it’s forcing us all to pay more.  Where do you think the money for all the subsidies is coming from?  If you take it from my right-hand pocket and  call it higher costs, which I can do something about, or you take it from my left-hand pocket and call it taxes, which I can do nothing about, it’s still money out of my wallet.

    I prefer that the government stay out of my life and let me determine what is the best way for me to spend my salary on my family.  I know what is best for me and my family better than somebody 2000 miles away in Washington.

  • Anonymous

    That’s correct. Conservatives, however, have been shouting out the alternative to Obamacare since Hillary! tried to bring national socialized medicine to the country so many years ago. The Left demands that Republicans show them their plan, but then they reject it out of hand, because the Republican plan isn’t another government solution; it is a free-market solution. Oh, but that didn’t work, cry the liberals, so that’s why we have to nationalize medicine.

    Wrong! Healthcare hasn’t been a free-market enterprise since healthcare was made a benefit paid to workers in lieu of higher wages, necessitated by government wage caps and price controls. This happened with passage of the Stabilization Act of 1942. Since then, healthcare has had government mandates that have not allowed healthcare to operate in a free market.

    States mandate what insurance companies must include in policies, even when those purchasing the policies don’t want the coverage for certain things. States mandate who can sell insurance to the residents of their respective states. These are insurance companies domiciled solely in the respective states, with no interstate commerce in healthcare insurance products allowed.

    Conservatives have been advocating for a decoupling of healthcare insurance from employers, simply because wage and price controls no longer apply, and citizens should be allowed to enter into contracts with any underwriter they choose, just like they can do for vehicle, home, and life insurance.

    Liberals are always quick to oppose mergers of large companies “because monopolies are bad for competition.” So why do they want to give healthcare over to a single, monolithic monopoly, the Federal government? Yes, competition has been lacking in the healthcare insurance industry because only “qualified” companies have been allowed to participate within states. Had interstate commerce been allowed, competition would surely have worked in favor of the consumer. But, no, the liberals’ solution is to give the government a monopoly. And yes, that monopoly is responsible for spiking costs that will go ever higher due to a lack of free-market competition.

    Liberals are insane.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=69901342 Alan Peel

    Nice violation, Pat.  Pay up to the “That Guy” jar.

  • Anonymous

    Wrong again. Obamacare is directly responsible for what is happening in the healthcare industry. If someone says they’re going to punch you in the face and draw their arm back with clenched fist, you don’t just stand there, you duck! Right now, American business is ducking a sucker punch. You liberals are the ones who never understand the unintended consequences of your actions. You talk all the time about “nuances,” but you seem to think that the world is static, not dynamic. You think that you can implement rules that everybody will just accept without seeking their own best advantage under the new rules. You never see it coming, because you don’t understand how things work. You only see what you want to see, how you think it should be, not how it is.

  • Anonymous

    Whether you know it or not, in a capitalistic country, the reason businesses are started are to make a profit for their owners.  In the case of a stock company, the reason the business is run is to make money for the stockholders of the company.  Would you start a business with the idea of NOT making a profit.  That wouldn’t be very smart.  Regular folks like you and me make their living from small business.  They wouldn’t be able to live and run their business without making a profit.  This healthcare law will not allow them to run their business in a profitable way and supply healthcare for their workers.  Thus, it will make businesses shut down or stop offering healthcare.  I am really tired of hearing liberals talking about the 20 – 30 million people without healthcare when there are 270,000,000 who face losing their jobs, having to lose income because they were forced to go on part-time, and can no longer afford their government insurance because the cost is going up so much.  It is those people who will have to accept Medicade and a lower standard of healthcare because of the mess Obama has made of our healthcare system.  It is time for the liberals to consider those 270 million Americans.  Who do you think is going to help them?

  • Anonymous

    Wrong again. I’m a senior coming up on retirement age, but I don’t expect either Medicare or Social Security to survive this rogue administration and all you Obamunists. I have had the foresight to put away a little something for my own future, and I know that I will be needing to take it all out in a lump sum to keep you guys from glomming onto it. I know that you will eventually attempt to nationalize all private retirement accounts, promising us all annuities, but keeping the balance when we die instead of allowing it to pass into our estates to be inherited by our kin. You will pay us, for a time, from our annuities, but the majority of the funds will be taken by socialists who will have run out of other people’s money and will be unable to raise taxes any more. There will be nothing but a big, fat IOU sitting in a so-called “lock box,” just like what has been done to Social Security.

    As for Medicare, Obama has pilfered its funds in a shell game designed to make Obamacare look feasible. So, Obamacare first started taking taxes on a 10-year OMB projection on Day One, but it doesn’t start to pay out anything for four years. Add the $716 billion windfall taken from Medicare, and Obama got what he used to deceive the American public, a bill that would supposedly stay below $1 trillion for the 10-year period.

    So, smart guy, what are the Obamunists going to do to keep Obmacare funded for the next 10-year period? Are they going to somehow tax everybody for four years before they can have six years worth of medical benefits? Are they going to take another $716 billion from Medicare? Well, we know that private retirement accounts total something like $17 trillion, so guess where Obamacare funding is going to come from! And, there is the added bonus that Obamcare will dispense with those pesky, costly, sick old seniors earlier rather than later … “A little extra morphine for Mr. Brown today, Nurse Ratchet.” Yeah, that’s the ticket … punch their tickets!

  • Edewater Colony1

    Wow Pachy, you’re out to lunch.  92% WERE insured. Now the % who weren’t is growing.  NY and CA have already started to advertise for people to buy $350 per month policies, that will be subsidized (doesn’t say by whom) and for $100 per month, they can buy health insurance.  These policies will be basic and put MORE people in the position of getting health care on the backs of others.  In case you haven’t figure it out yet, that was the intent.  The goal has always been to collapse the industry and set up socialized medicine.  Canada has that (and a 50+% tax rate).  The surgery I has in the US is a 5 year wait in Canada (if you’ve lived that long to have it).  The few who pay the bills in this country will be picking up the tab, once again.  And btw, no need to worry about getting old, palliative care will be the option, no life-saving treatments once you’ve passed a certain age.  Eventually, we will be putting humans to sleep the same way we do with animals.  Oh wait, not eventually, Oregon already writes that prescription and NJ just passed legislation to go in that direction.

  • Edewater Colony1

    In the ER emergency Medicaid is what’s billed for the illegals.

  • Edewater Colony1

    They don’t want it provided. They want it to collapse and then re-create the program as socialized health care and the costs will be covered by the tax that 5 people in the US Supreme Court have burdened us with for the rest of our lives.

  • Anonymous

    Well, hey, we all heard Jay Carney say it this morning…there is no data to support that jobs are being eliminated or being shifted to part time work and there are no employees who are losing their current healthcare coverage because Obamacare is giving them MORE choices by forcing them out of their current insurance that they have chosen. All these companies just need to get with the program and make their choices compliant so that the president can truthfully say that all is well. 

    Even the mainstream media is now beginning to question what’s going on. The president violates the rule of law both through the tricks that were utilized in the passage of the bill and the implementation of the train wreck that has followed. Now, he realizes that the employer mandate is going to result in MORE people out of work and insurance and because of that, he yet again violates the rule of law and decides that implementation will only apply right now to those whom he can easily abuse…the individual citizens and their families. 

  • Anonymous

    Thanks to this crap my the money taken out of my paycheck for insurance is now tripled.  And will now have a big co-pay on top of that each time I go to the doctor.  The company I work for pushed this because of Obamacare.  Gee, thanks Barry.

  • Anonymous

    The Cleveland Clinic announced they were cutting back on their ’14 budget and will be letting

    employees go.  They attribute it to the costs from Obamacare.  A physician in Chicago (on Neil

    Cavuto’s show today) said several Chicago hospitals there would be doing the same thing.

    Again, pointing to the increased costs from Obamacare.   Fact: Medicare has been slashed.

    Many folks will be on Medicaid.  There will be MORE paper work.  There will be LESS income.

    Why would any medical facility cheer for this?  Or doctors in private practice?  Profits is NOT a

    bad word!

  • Anonymous

    snow, we are enrolled in a Senior Advantage (Medicare) program through husband’s
    former employer—nasty, old Bank of America.  Don’t know what the change will be when renewal comes around in a month or so.  But, am hoping for the best, since BofA was one of the ”favored” banks deemed too big to fail.  Will have to wait and see.

  • Anonymous

    It seems very obvious that Obama didn’t have a clue what his healthcare bill contained. There are too many conditions attached to that huge bill for ANYONE to fully understand what it contains. Typical democrats spinning their lies to the people. The truth is surfacing by the day.

  • Anonymous

     He knew exactly what he was doing.  Destroying this country.

  • Anonymous

    My 2nd visit with Zo.  Thanks for posting, Sam.

  • Anonymous

    IF those videos are even ”allowed” to be around in the future.  You know, Draxx, how often history is rewritten.  Of course, if Obamacare is fully implemented, everyone will see ”the future” right in front of them, won’t they?

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, the Republicans have had their own plan since Obamaocare, just because you are too stupid to go to the Republican website and read it for yourself doesn’t mean it isn’t there. You are one dumb M F er, fudgepacker.

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, SS and Medicare have over a 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities. Do you understand what that means? I didn’t think so. You do realize that it’s NOT the Federal government’s job to provide you or anyone else with a retirement account and medical coverage. You really should try reading the Constitution some time. You are beyond dumb, fudgepacker.

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, look at the CBO’s last estimate of the cost of this B S. It was revised UP and will now cost more than what you are talking about. On another note, Democraps want to give amnesty to 12-20 million illegals, who can not afford health insurance either, what do you think that is going to do to the cost of this B S bill?

    A business in this country is ABOUT profit and staying in business. Of course they are about the stockholders and profit. Those stockholders are the REASON they are in business. If a company didn’t make a profit, they would never get the funding to exist, therefore those jobs wouldn’t exist.  You really don’t have the first about which you speak.

    When I had my company open, I closed it due to Obamaocare, the people who worked for me never took a loss. If I made a bad decision, they still got paid. The cost came out of MY pocket, not theirs. It was MY money that opened the company. You left wing dolts seem to miss those points and believe that the workers of the company deserve to be center point of the company. If you or the left wing dolts want that, start your own company. I assure, if you do business in that manner, you will NOT be in business long. Dunce.

    You are a dumbass, fudgepacker.

  • greywolfrs

    Actually, you are incorrect. Obamaocare gives 20-30 million people subsidies to purchase health insurance. The illegals are on top of that number. What do you think the cost will be if the Democraps are able to 12-20 million illegals amnesty?

  • greywolfrs

    Here in CA, the average cost of a policy is going UP by 16-40%, depending on where one lives. Those are the numbers straight from the LEFT WING L.A.TIMES. This bill is complete joke. The Democfraps want to give 12-20 millio0n illegals amnesty and never bother to mention what that will do to the cost of this P O S.

    The worst part about this whole thing are the left wing dolts, like fudgepacker, that lack the critical thinking skills to see through this B S. They just keep opening their pie holes and the left wing stupidity drops out.  

  • Anonymous

    W, when husband retired, some 30 years ago, he took lump sum rather than annuities, invested with a couple of financial ”managers” who, for the most part, invested prudently.  Now, we are not part of the 1%, (not by a long shot!), but we don’t have big financial worries and can use our money for children’s needs and grandchildren’s education.   Yeah, I am concerned about Obamacare and those ”death panels.”  I’m at an age where an accidental fall might land me in the hospital w/a broken hip and I certainly don’t want ”pain management ” until I give up my life!

  • greywolfrs

    He knew exactly what was in it. In fact, ALL the Democraps did. The biggest problem that never seems to be addressed is the fact that this bill is designed to put private insurance companies out of business. Then the Democraps will claim their is another healthcare “crisis” and the government will NEED to do something about it. What could they possibly be referring to? Want to bet the Democraps propose a “single-payer” system at that point? The same system they tried when Obamaocare was put in, but the Democraps couldn’t even get their own party to go along with it.

  • greywolfrs

    Would you stop making sense and using facts. Don’t you know those are the bane of the left wing dolt’s existence?

  • Anonymous

    Delta and a few others announced doing something similar. Then came Walgreens. And now Home Depot. Seems like the list keeps growing. Now you talk about the Cleveland Clinic and several hospitals in Chicago. I also found out that several factories and companies in my area will be letting people go for the same reason. Obamacare. That is quite a few employers in about a week. Music to my ears. If this had started back in 2011 and 2012, I would bet we would be seeing a some new faces in the Senate, the House and also, possibly the White house. Obamacare would be gone. I hope a lot more businesses also get on this bandwagon. If this keeps up at this rate, we could have a lot of very upset voters next year. That will be a good start. The next part will depend on them staying upset for another two years. If it keeps hitting them in their bank account, hopefully, that can be a constant reminder. Just keep this up all you employers. This could just be the thing that will make all those old career politicians start to worry about loosing their jobs and start working for their real bosses. The people. The only way Obamacare will be repealed before 2017, is to hope that the people are mad enough to vote in a veto prof congress. With all the freeloaders that vote for a living, there isn’t much chance of that.

  • Anonymous

     Now just stay mad until November 2014 and November 2016 and vote accordingly.

  • Anonymous

     Why should he care?  He became a lame duck right after winning the 2012 election.  That is unless he tries to get the Twenty-second Amendment repealed.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t be too comfortable about medicare.  If you remember they are cutting over $500 billion from that program.  Thank AARP who endorsed it. 

  • Lisa Vacula

    I had etna insurance with my employer.. they traded that in for blue cross/blue shield.. I do not like it… :(

  • Anonymous

    Without the name calling, I also recommend you follow the advice of the other two posters who have replied to your post. You will find that there has been a Republican alternative that they have tried to introduce since Obamacare was first proposed. Did you even read those 2700 plus pages of Obamacare? My guess is that you didn’t or you didn’t really understand what you were reading. I have seen government run health care in countries like Norway, Germany Sweden and Denmark because I lived there for a number of years. Under their government run health care, AKA socialized medicine, rationing has been practiced for decades. I still hear from my friends there and they say it is much worse. I will agree that our current system is broken but Government run health care is not the answer. In a government run health system, many have to wait months and even years to get needed procedures or care for some of their problems. Quite a few of them die before they receive that treatment. Corrupt government officials will use health care as a tool of control. In my opinion, that is what Obamacare will do to this country. If our current system is so bad, why do a lot of foreigners come here from other countries to get the treatment they need? If Obamacare is so great, why didn’t it go into effect immediately instead of being delayed until after the 2012 election? Why did Congress exempt themselves from it? If you go through it and read it you will see why. We all heard Nancy Pelosy say that we had to pass it to see what was in it. For those who insist that there isn’t a Death Panel, I am sure there is someone in New York who will be happy to sell you a bridge in Brooklyn. They call it something else. It is called the Individual Payment Advisory Board (IPAB). Google it. It’s a group of bureaucrats who will come between you and your doctor and decide what treatment you will and will not get. That is also rationing, something else Obama lap dogs insist isn’t going to happen. If you get treatment approved, don’t get complacent. After treatment each case is reviewed by the the IPAB. If they determine they made a mistake, you must pay back every penny. That is where all those IRS agents added by Obamacare come in. Their decision will be final and there is no appeal provision. Don’t take my word for all of this. You can do your own research or you can enjoy your KoolAid. I’m sure I haven’t changed your mind and you will have some choice liberal come-backs so you can have the last word.

  • Anonymous

    I know you are frustrated with Obamacare and liberals like all of us.  Name calling is what liberals do.  Using it ourselves only brings us down to their level and we should be above that. I do like your advice but I think he is too busy drinking his Kool-Aid and much too lazy to follow it.

  • Anonymous

    That’s exactly what most seniors don’t understand. I’m sure they’ve all been told how great it is that we have Medicare, Medicaid, and now Obamacare. Unfortunately, just like the unions, what AARP didn’t tell seniors was that cutting Medicare is going to be one of the ways they pay for Obamacare. Worse, the reimbursement to physicians is being cut for payments on Medicare, Medicaid and Obamacare, meaning that many physicians will NOT be accepting anyone who has coverage through those programs. They pay less than it costs them to keep their practice doors open. Isn’t that awesome? We’ll bankrupt America to deliver an insurance card that won’t be accepted by most physicians. But it’s Obama’s crowning achievement.

  • Anonymous

    So what if business owners only care about their profits and stockholders?  If they own the business it is THEIRS!  Do you have any concept whatsoever of what proprietorship is?? So long as they don’t do anything illegal, they can be as selfish as they want.  And if they decide to sell their company, and therefore put people out of work, well we reap what we sow don’t we?  You can either grasp that or be a Communist.  Your choice.

  • Anonymous

    Well the 10th amendment no longer exists due to Obamacare, so I think you make a very good point here.  My prediction is that the President will try to say that Republicans are trying to fix the election by trying to implement voter ID laws.  He may just say that there should just not be any more elections.  

  • Anonymous

    You know the answer to that snow.  The Obama Administrative nomenklatura already knows that people will sell their companies left and right.  There will be massive unemployment and people will be entirely dependent on the government.  I just can’t believe this is really going to happen, to THIS country of all places.  This is what the Leftist Messiah wants.

  • Anonymous

    There won’t be any nice stores.

  • Anonymous

    Sure he does. He’s just not willing to do anything at all to EARN his way. He just wants whatever anyone else has. He would never consider handing over half of what he worked for or earned to some thug who indignantly insists that because he WANTS what he has, somehow, it is up to Pachy to turn it over. Yet, he believes that he has a right to commit the same act against another person simply because they have more than he does. Never mind what they risked and sacrificed in order to obtain it. They couldn’t care less. Liberals are simply thugs writ large posing as “compassionate”. It’s always funny how their compassion only involves picking other people’s pockets, never their own.

  • Anonymous

    Have you ever heard of health savings accounts?  It’s the Conservative alternative that Democrats everywhere are trying to prevent.  Put down your drink and google health savings accounts.  Then get back to me.

  • Anonymous

    What you’ve said here reminds me of the Leftist complaints of Romneycare in Massachussetts.  Romney was operating within a Leftist fabricated framework and Leftists were complaining anyway.  What they could never grasp was that no matter what state laws applicable to health care existed, if you don’t like it, there are 49 other states.  But with Obamacare, if you don’t like it, you have to leave the country.  ORRRR….try your ass off to defund or repeal it.  

  • Anonymous

    In my neighborhood we have many seniors. In 2008 and 2012 they proudly displayed their Obama and Democrat signs on their front lawns and stickers on their cars. They all insisted that Obama is the greatest President we ever had and probably ever will have. I tried to tell them what was in store for them after the election and they called me a racist. They insisted that he would never do the things people were saying about him. Now many of them have been informed by their Doctors that they are being dropped as patients and are advised to seek another health care provider. The Doctors even told them why. They are devastated by the news. Do they blame Obama and the Democrats they supported? Not in this lifetime. They are blaming the greedy Republicans, doctors and Bush. I didn’t have the heart to be an “I TOLD YOU SO”.

    It is my opinion that the AARP does not represent seniors at all. They fully supported the Obama Health Care Bill knowing full well that it called for a Five Hundred Billion Dollar cut in Medicare benefits. In my opinion they sold us out. I interpreted that as a direct slap in the face to all seniors. Now their television advertisements are expressing their phony concern about the cuts in Medicare benefits, that they fully supported when they gave their endorsement to the Obama Health Care Bill. They supported Obamacare and now they are trying to look like that great defender of Senior benefits with their phony advertisements. They expect to make millions with the Medicare Supplemental Insurance Policy they want to sell to seniors. Their hypocrisy is showing.

  • ellievl

    I lost my good health care plan and I lost my Dr. I now see a Nurse Practitioner. My deductible went up 100%. My prescription co pays up 150%. ( Medicine now costs three times what I paid before!)  My bill came for the required OB heath care physical  and THAT had a Dr’s name on it! Major B.S! This health care is not affordable! It is a death care! The system has paperwork that says you saw a Dr. when you did not! I am 58. I am the vanishing middle class!
    My mom. age 79 and in general good health with USPS retirement plan plus extra coverage she pays for was just denied a MRI, as her DR. said, “That would cost between $800.00 to $1000.00!” So for her chronic hip pain, he is now sending her to a spinal specialist! I have asked for his refusal in writing to post on AARP which has been lying to the elderly since the inception of OB death care! I am considering a civil action!  We are going to have to sue the Dr’s for following the plan, which will cause them to quit, which will result in no health care! But no health care is at least better than paying for a plan that denies you the care you need!
    It is hard for me to look at Nancy Pelosi and not see the face of evil! What kind of an idiot instructs the American people to vote in a health plan nobody has actually read in totally to accurately report on! That would be her! She is so wealthy she has her own plan I am sure! But she tells the Americans to vote in a death plan! How is that not evil? Americans need to wake up and see truth!

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     What makes you think you won’t be paying for them with Obamacare? Who did you think would pay for it? The government is getting that money from you and the businesses to do it. Businesses will raise their prices to pay for O-Care if they can (thus passing the cost onto YOU). Of course along the money trail a lot will be wasted on administration of the plan, paying new government employees whose Health Insurance will come out of YOUR taxes. Premiums are already going up to cover kids who will be on parents policies until age 26, and people with pre-existing conditions. Because people are losing full time gainful employment and becoming part timers, they will probably be subsidized now by YOU instead of the businesses they worked for. People who lose their jobs completely will have their Health Care paid for by YOU….. completely!

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     Wrong. Costs of everything increase because of inflation, cost of energy etc. However, because you will have to pay for the Obamacare for lots of people who didn’t have insurance, for illegal aliens, for kids up to age 26 on their parents policies for peole with pre-existing conditions and for the administration of the plan as well as the IRS invol;vementcan’t a

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      Patchy, that
    is not totally true. Costs of everything increase because of inflation,
    cost of energy etc. However, because you will have to pay for the
    Obamacare for
    1. lots of people who didn’t have insurance,
    2. for illegal aliens,
    3. for kids up to age 26 on their parents policies, (all premiums will be increased).
    4. for people with pre-existing conditions,
    5. for people who get subsidies now and those who will after losing their full time jobs,
    6. for those who will get dumped on the exchanges and won’t be able to pay for insurance on their own,
    7.
    for the administration of the plan as well as the IRS involvement (lots
    more government employees with their free Obamacare that YOU will pay
    for),
    8. those who had no insurance but whose hospital care was paid
    for by hospital charities and endowments – they will be under
    Obamacare, ie you will pay for them.

    I probably left out other situations, but all those listed above will raise the cost of insurance.

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     The seniors and their employers paid for their SS and Medicare Benefits.

  • Anonymous

    Oh relax, it sounds like people will still get health care. It’s just not the kind the stores have always given people. Plus, if stores gave it as a perk(which it should have always been instead of something everyone decided they needed employers to give them)they will get covered regardless of if the stores gave it away or not. Can’t stores just pay the penalty if they don’t want Obamacare? Seems like they should be able to. BTW, defunding Obamacare doesn’t mean it will be going away. It just means the taxes for it will. Meaning the public option for anyone who can’t afford insurance would be the thing going away. 

  • Anonymous

    I wish that there were a way to enact a law that whoever voted for Obama in either of the last two elections should let a homeless man live with them.  They can pay for his health care, food, clothing, and they can bathe him too for all I care.  

  • greywolfrs

    Telling the truth is hardly “name-calling.”

  • Anonymous

    Yes. While it is the largest lobbying group in the world, it certainly does a horrible job of representing those who pay so much money for them to advocate on their behalf.

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  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart can you post the proof that the cost of insurance will go up 16-40% and be specific.  Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart, can you please tell us what difference obamacare is gonna have on your current insurance?  Please post your proof and be specific.  Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    Sweetheart, have you seen the movie “SICKO”?

  • Anonymous

    Darling boy!  No, I haven’t.  Did you have anything to do with it?

  • Anonymous

    I watched it.  It’s sad you never invested the time.  You would have learned something.  But the 1% doesn’t want you to learn anything.  They want you to remain “willfully ignorant” and your happy to comply.  You should watch my show.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4N_Hu79hvI

  • Anonymous

    OK, and does your show have the movie  ”Sicko?”   Don’t want to be wasting my time, don’tcha know?  It’s too bad and a crying
    shame that the MSM did a piss poor job about informing the voters about Obama, wasn’t it?  That is, where was the vetting of the man?  Hell, we knew more about Palin’s background than we knew of his!  Where are his college records, for one?  Guess it was the job given to them (MSM) which was to keep the voters ”ignorant?”

  • Draxx

    greywolfrs, I find it so amazing how people can be so ignorant of reality like Pachy… Even if he read Ben Franklin’s Points on how the Republic of the US is setup and can easily fail (by programs like SSA and Overpowered Gov’t) he still would be as ignorant as when he started…

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    U made my point even stronger my friend. We all know this is a capitalistic nation and that’s the main problem with health care. We want to run HC like a business and we forget we are dealing woth people, flesh and blood, humans, kids, elderly, disable, people in need. We ALL love capitalism, but not at the expense of the less fortunate. At the end, if we don’t deal with this issue, we all gonna suffer cause we will be having more sick folks on the streets and workplace and more people in bankrupcy due to high medical expenses. Money should not and must not be more important than people. The day that happen we as a nation will sink cause we need to take care our brothers . . . Those are our values, that’s part of our Christian values and Yes, we can make it happen where everybody could benefit. If we landed at the moon, we can do this!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    So, what is your solution? . . . Let people die cause they can’t afford health care. Let people lose their homes and assets because they got really ill and the medical expenses will send them to bankruptcy. Reject a child with a terminal illness cause parents can’t pay??
    Am still waiting for the conservative plan to fix our HC system and their only ideas so far are:  a) cross-state insurance and 2) medical malpractice reform laws . . . Then, the bright ideas disapear like smoke . . .  

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    The reason that you are here today in good health is because, maybe, your parents or yourself have or had a reliable health care insurance plan to care for you when u got sick. Who wants to work for a company where there are no benefits?? At the end, if you get real sick, like a terminal illness, there is no money in the world that can save you, but at least you or your kids would have something to rely on in case of need. If Americans companies don’t want to pay for your HC, at least you want them to give a very good salary, so you can purchase a HC plan. Corporations think that you or your kids don’t deserve anything else, but just your salary or hourly rate . . . I guess you prefer to live in a sick society than having healthy folks around you . . . what about that, my friend??

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    So, you prefer us to do nothing about our HC system??
    You prefer millions of Americans sick running around getting others sick and do nothing about it.
    If we dont pay it NOW, we will pay it Later anyways. Its about common sense, its about humanity, its about the health of our nation, what is more important that that???

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    That’s why Jesus said . . . that it will be really hard for the rich to enter heaven . . . because its all about money and not about people. I got your point . . . my friend.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    Because for me my friend, money is not the only thing. I tell what, money is shit! cause all the moeny in the word won’t save you if you get real sick, so why be stingy and not share the good our Lord have given us with others. Its not that ALL what Jesus asked from us??

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    U so stupid! Nobody is saying that, but helping won’t make you less human or less rich. Just do the right thing!

  • greywolfrs

    Go to the L.A. Times and look it up for yourself, dipshit.

  • greywolfrs

    Please lick between my butt cheeks and be quick about it. Moron.

  • Watch it

    The decrease in accessibility and quality care will have a negative effect on our nations health as a whole. Look at the results of the cancer treatment and survival rates of the US health care system as it is now compared to those in the UK, Canada etc where they have their version of Obamacare. They fail miserably. Here, I can get a Dr appointment within a couple days and go into the hospital within a few daysa to a week to be treated for a cancerous condition. In the UK I won’t get to see a Dr. for many weeks, and won’t get scheduled at a hospital for many months. Their cure rate is miserable because of their “Obamacare”.

    As for “millions of Americans sick running around getting others sick” – that happens whether people have insurance or not. You have no valid argument and are sadly misguided.

  • Anonymous

    I think this is good. Businesses shouldn’t be weighed down by providing health insurance to their staff, especially part time staff. With businesses freed from providing health insurance they can invest the money in growing their business, including by bringing on more people.  

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  • Anonymous

    Do you not get that for those who have insurance, our rates are doubling or tripling? Why do you think that the law causes more to go without insurance? We can’t afford it. Period. You don’t seem to understand much of anything about this issue. The reality is that healthcare is just like any other business. It is owned and run by doctors in their own practices or affiliated with groups. The poor have ALWAYS had more access to healthcare than those in the lower middle class.
    You just don’t seem to understand any of the reality out there. Edgewater Colony1 pointed out to you that there are now MORE people without insurance. Your reply is whether or not we should let children die. Try thinking. If you’re for a plan that actually does cause more death because it is rationed and makes healthcare unavailable to more people, that is exactly what you’re doing. It must be wonderful to be a liberal. No facts, no rational thought and just deny whenever facts and rational thought are presented. Good for you. You have completely fulfilled every expectation I’ve ever had for leftists. Of course, by choosing liberalism, it’s WAY easier than thinking.

  • Anonymous

    Really? Then why are you so determined to remove everyone else’s money through enforced thuggery? Don’t tell me that money means nothing to you. I’ve never yet met a liberal who didn’t talk constantly about stealing money from those who earned it and depositing it where it was not earned. This is THE mantra for leftists. You being willing to support that thuggery does not make you superior and it sure doesn’t mean that money means nothing to you. That is puerile drivel.
    Everyone has to be concerned with money. You are WAY more obsessed with money than most. You just think that you’re compassionate because you’re willing to commit theft to give it away. If you’re not concerned with money, then do exactly what you want everyone who has more than you to do. Give away most of your income. Live simply on the streets so that others may simply live. But, and here’s the key….don’t give it away yourself, donate it to the government so that they can SO efficiently redistribute your money. And no claiming you can’t afford it. EVERYONE can afford to live on less.
    It’s time for a reality check, Pachy. You are far more interested in meaningless platitudes than real solutions. Worse, you’re guilty of hatred, envy and aiding and abetting larceny. Being a liberal, though, you’re never called upon to actually examine the results of what you so blithely advocate. So long as it makes you feel superior, the side effects of those actions don’t matter.

  • Anonymous

    I am seriously considering giving up my citizenship. Veteran or no veteran this is really crappy!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Home wrecker Depot no employees get a regular schedule, the big orange is a greed driven
    corporation that will blame any one for their greedy decisions.