Glenn: Why don’t we fire all ‘nonessential’ personnel?

With the government shutdown looming, we have been told over and over and over again that essential government personnel will not be affected by the halt. The military will continue to be paid. Social Security and Medicare checks will continue to go out. So if the government can continue to function with just “essential” personnel, why do we have “nonessential” personnel at all?

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“May I bring up another point? And Pat, why don’t you write this one up on the board, number three. You write this one up on the board. When the government shuts down today, it will only shut down nonessential personnel,” Glenn said on radio this morning. “So could you just write down number three should be: Why not fire everyone nonessential?”

“So you’re thinking, by the fact that they’re indicating they are not essential, they should not hold positions in the first place,” Stu clarified. “Because the word ‘essential’ means needed.”

“Exactly right. Well, I’m thinking that since we have a debt of $17 trillion, why not fire everybody that is nonessential,” Glenn reiterated. “Here in New York everybody’s talking about it. Now, in Texas nobody’s saying a word about this. Texas is one of the states that is so self‑reliant, it’s barely going to affect Texas. But states like New York, they’re going to panic tomorrow. So they’re saying, ‘Don’t worry, here in New York only nonessential government offices are going to be closed and not working.’ Well, I think that’s a good. I think this is how to cut the budget.”

When you consider the state of Washington D.C. and really take a look at the so-called ‘leaders’ that continue to get us into this now-annual mess, you might consider that the best use of the government shutdown would be to close down Congress. After all, they have largely proven to be “nonessential” lately.

“You know who I’d like to see not function,” Glenn asked. “Congress. Just shut them down.”

“Unfortunately, they think of themselves as essential,” Stu explained.

“You know the Founders didn’t see Congress that way. The Founders see Congress exactly the way Texas sees their House and Senate, and it operates every other year for three months. And if there’s anybody within the sound of my voice that thinks that your life wouldn’t be 100% better with Congress only in session every other year for three months, you’re crazy. Think about how much better things would be in our country if Congress only met that amount of time,” Glenn said. “You could do all the crappy stuff you wanted in your own state. I mean, Massachusetts, you could meet 24 hours a day. You should elect two Houses and Senate. So when one House is really tired and has to go home at night, you’ve got another one that can just continue working through the night. But the rest of us would have, you know, every other year for three months. And that would be great.”

It might sound unfathomable to some that a government could function in such a way, but, if you look at a large state like Texas, it is managing just fine.

“Somehow we make it,” Pat said of the state. “We have roads. We have schools. Our government is actually in the black. We’ve got a rainy day fund of, last I heard, $10 billion in the bank.”

“Because they don’t have time to do anything. They don’t have time to spend the people’s money,” Glenn explained. “They don’t have time sitting around listening to all of these people who have special projects and special needs.”

“And not only is [Texas] with the legislature meeting every other year, it’s with no state income tax at all. Zero,” Pat concluded. “So how is it that states like California and New York, with excessive state income taxes, with legislatures that meet all the time, can’t make it? How is it?”

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  • Draxx

    Fire Non-Essentials Goes Against The Big Gov’t People’s Ideals of Turning Them Into Law Enforcers With Badges & Guns, After They Take Guns From Everybody Else… Like The IRS!

  • Anonymous

    My Uncle Christopher recently got a nearly new red Kia Cadenza Sedan just by working from a macbook. see w­w­w.J­A­M­20.c­o­m

  • Anonymous

    Thank you, Glenn.  I agree.  The reps in Washington are our employees and should I have employees unable to perform their jobs, I fire them.  I have before and I want these incompetents out.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn is such a fat fucking asshole

  • Anonymous

     Did they let you out of the institution again?

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Exactly, if they are listed as ‘non-essential’ then they are not needed and should be fired. How much money could be saved in this way and with other unneeded parts of government being disposed of?

  • Anonymous

    Don’t let the worms in D.C. know that you have $10 billion in the bank, it will be gone before midnight.

  • Anonymous

    And, charge them rent until they have proven their value.

  • Rick

     You sound like someone who is well acquainted with “fucking an asshole”

  • Anonymous

    “Essential” employees are ones that protect life and property.  Your suggestion to fire all non-essential employees demonstrates willful ignorance.  For example, a non-essential employee may be an attorney and his or her support staff that defend lawsuits against the U.S., civilly prosecute health care fraud and seek civil remedies, and enforce the collection of civil and criminal debts and penalties, etc.  What you are suggesting is that we fire these employees so that the court issues default judgments against the U.S. government.  These employees more than pay for themselves in the amount of money they save the government through an aggressive defense and the amount that they collect that is owed the government.  The federal courts only have enough funding for another 10 days. Should we fire all federal court employees, too?  Use some common sense before you start spouting off more hatred towards federal civilian employees who are being used as political pawns.  These are middle class citizens.   Save it for Congress and the President who seem incapable of compromising.  Firing all non-essential employees is equivalent to sequestration cuts that cut 10% across the board.  Instead of targeting entitlement programs that are the budget busters and cutting unnecessary programs, cutting across the board only handicaps the ability to carry out many of the federal government’s critical missions that belong at the federal and not state level.

  • http://www.facebook.com/maximus.mitchell.9 Maximus Mitchell

    I don’t understand what this story has anything to do with Glenn beck. Are you upset that he is telling the truth and if you don’t believe its the truth he gives you the ability to find out for your self. I just do not understand why you even read Glenn becks page if you don’t like him. so to you my friend I say this I hope your day gets better and if you would like a hug I will be more than happy to be the person to make you smile 

  • http://www.facebook.com/gotjihad Jason Douglas

     Glad you brought a well thought out response to the table sir.

  • Tyler Cross

    Hahahahaa…. sure there are definitely those employed by the government that aren’t really doing anything worth while, but “nonessential” in this case means that those that are not directly involved with national security and do not contribute to the basics of running the government. I normally agree with what Glenn puts out, but this is making him look stupid.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn.  Please stop bashing Gov employees outside the DC Hub. We are not all GS-14, 15 or SES. The terns essential and non-essential have been replaced by the wording excepted and non-excepted.  Yeah!  I know same meaning, different wording. For DoD Non-Excepted employees are people who do not directly support the war fighter, like base maintenance, administrative etc. Excepted personnel directly support the warfighter, like, logistics O$M Funding, Payroll, IT etc. What you might ask is why we are furloughing Gov Employees and not Gov Contract Employees that total more than 700,000.  But no one knows the real answer to that.  I would like to know,  as when I was furloughed my 11 days,  our contract workforce felt no such pains, with no furlough or loss in pay. Might I add,  they get paid better than us and have great health insurance.  So Please look into that.  We can never get a good answer as to why contractors have no accountability….

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUrbEIqFl_Q Sam Fisher

    Glenn I used to work for the government and what that means is anything that is anyone who is important enough to keep the bare government up and running we had a small government shut down here in PA back in 07 and lost a few days work because of it. It is not a laughing matter because people will be hurt by this and at a time when the job market is bad.

  • Anonymous

    Also keep in mind that if Congress only meets for 3 months, every-other year, who’s going to be issuing even more executive orders in the interim?  You guessed it!  The president.

    Personally, even though it costs us some money, I really like having Congress beat each other up and (hopefully) stall bad bills in the crossfire.  It also means that Obama has to work with the House to move his agenda forward.  I see a tangled up congress as a mixed bag.  Not entirely bad, but not entirely good, either.

  • Anonymous

    I think Glenn was talking more of the sum of that problem rather than its parts. I believe he is saying that there are too many of these ‘non essential’ positions in a government that has way outgrown its britches. Continuing to prop it up when unsustainable in the long run (maybe even short) will lead to ultimate failure, and then ALL of these ‘non essentials’ will be out of a job.

     Given the nature of his radio program, obviously when you come here, you must also understand that Glenn uses sarcasm often, and is simply supporting the constitution in its original form, as the country was meant to be operated. I don’t believe it is his intent to wish people out of a job.

    But with the current direction that this country is going, the workers/taxpayers will be outnumbered by the free-loaders and entitled soon, at which point the scenario in the first paragraph will also occur.

    Government must be reduced, and I agree, in an intelligent way that targets the most pork first. The problem is that we have our elected officials who penned the pork making these ‘decisions’ so I am afraid intelligence is missing from the equation!

  • http://www.facebook.com/lon.maxwell Lon Maxwell

    you’re an idiot

  • Anonymous

    In a perfect world firing all of the “Non Essential” employees would be a fabulous solution….however then we would have those very same employees on unemployment collecting welfare and food stamps! Funded by the very people that still struggle to make ends meet on a day to day basis! Myself being one of them…single mother trying to raise 2 children without the help of any of said welfare or food stamps! Trying to make ends meet.
    I don’t think the solution is firing people at all…maybe cutting the head of the snake that feeds illegal immigrants and pays their medical bills should be the solution! Focus on the real problem without creating more!

  • Anonymous

     Respectfully, you are getting all hot and bothered about Glenn and the Blaze calling these people unessential.  If you will reread the above, the government is the one saying they are unessential.  Admittedly, that comes down to your definition of essential and unessential, but, if they are truly unessential, then why are we paying them.  I ran a crew of men for years, and I guarantee you that, if I had anyone on my crews that I considered to be unessential, I didn’t keep paying them.

  • Anonymous

    It really doesn’t.  The reality is the Federal government is only meant to have very limited scope of regulatory authority – keep the country safe and the economic gears greased.  Beyond that there are very few essential task for the federal government to undertake.  

  • Pat A

    Glenn really nailed it with this statement,”When you consider the state of Washington D.C. and really take a look at the so-called ‘leaders’ that continue to get us into this now-annual mess, you might consider that the best use of the government shutdown would be to close down Congress. After all, they have largely proven to be “nonessential” lately.” 
    Annual mess is right. They wait until the last minute, then hysteria sets in and we are led to believe that the crisis is so grave that the world as we know it may end tomorrow. What a waste of time and taxpayer money. 

  • Anonymous

    wonder how many of these people log into playing solitaire and looking at porn as has been reported, and doing it on our tax payer dime.

  • Anonymous

    Oregon has a state tax, and liberal states have their state tax because the taxpayers are like the husband and the people in government are the trophy wives; spending it to make their children or followers happy. Every department that receives money, what they do, should be listed somewhere and how much. 

  • Nikki Callahan Johnson

    My husband is not a government employee, but he works for a contractor.  His paycheck is on the line.  It’s our main source of income.  We are already facing foreclosure.  A shutdown doesn’t just affect the government.  My family is literally facing hunger and homelessness.  I don’t want Obamacare to go through, but it’s not so simple to just say shut it down.

  • Anonymous

    EMAILED TO ALLL SEANATORS IN WASHINGTON
     
      Senator;
     
    We, the people of this country are smart, very smart and we do research and investigation ,…we do our homework;…what follows is all over the entire NET in many blogs and is sent to many of you people there in Washington DC.
    ______________
     
    Everyone (including Obama & CO.)….absolutely everyone knows, that Obamacare project is toxic;….and so it is imperative to defund this insane project.The liberal democrat faction are counting on to convince the American public that the republicans are to be blamed for a government shut-down if defunding goes through.And here is the real scenario;The conservative-oriented republicans ( not the RINO-type) are offering to fund the entire government budget except the so called ‘Obamacare project’ for it is a very bad deal for the entire country.As retaliation,… the democrats-controlled senate and the so called ‘president’ (Mr Obama) are willing – want to – to stop payment on the rest of the governments/ obligations (the military, law enforcement agents….etc….everything) – that is the ‘shut-down’.In others words,… is the current government in the pursue of this ,…they are acting like a confused teenagers throwing a tantrum for they cannot have their toy (in this case the toy is ‘the Obamacare project ‘).Are we all clear on this?
     
    The U.S. Wheat and Barley Scab Initiative (USWBSI) informed researchers that 66 percent of the funding cuts from the Initiative’s FY2012 budget are being restored.
    http://westernfarmpress.com/government/budget-bright-spot-wheat-scab-initiative-funding-partially-restored
     
    http://www.cbo.gov/publication/21999
      
    First, federal budget can be funded partially as done previously and suggested by CBO for future plans.
    ____________The U.S. Wheat and Barley Scab Initiative (USWBSI) informed researchers that 66 percent of the funding cuts from the Initiative’s FY2012 budget are being restored.http://westernfarmpress.com/go…www.cbo.gov/publication/21999 Just for the basics,..so take it from there….anyone.______________ So there you have it , senator,….so, take note , if you will.

  • Anonymous

    You need to fire some of your research assistants.

    It is EMERGENCY-essential vs non-EMERGENCY essential.  Law enforcement and other emergency personnel are the most obvious examples. 
    If 100% of your staff was loyal to you, they would have edited this before you got on the air.

  • maggiespat

    Do non-essential personnel include office staff for the DOD, and if so, who will pay their mortgages, buy food for their families, etc. while they are not being paid? Why should Obama get a paycheck, a fully fueled jet, service personnel to wait on him and his fat wife, and “non-essential” average working people who work behind a desk 8 hours a day have their lives destroyed because Boehner and Reid are having a political battle?

  • Mark Cline

    As a whole, Americans are self reliant and hard working.  We don’t need a government that is trying to be everything for everyone.  We need the government to get out of the way and let Americans take care of Americans, instead of taking our resources, squandering 90% of that and doling the rest out.

  • Mark Cline

    Ahhh….It seems we may have found someone that is on the government dole, that the government may consider to be “nonessential.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000144958245 Iris Tedder

    LOVE GLENN BECK………HE SOOOOOO ROCKS!!!!

  • Anonymous

    too many damn lawyers already  they can become ambulance chaser instead

  • Jack Blanchard

    I agree, as well.  It’s time for the world to see more of what’s coming in America as this glorious transformational revolution unfolds.  This has been, from the beginning, a planned “shut down” of the traditional American way of life, despised by BHO from his indoctrination in Indonesia by his own family, and reconfiguration in his own image and likeness, to the exclusion of the current majority.  He knows the global transformation of demographics will foster Islamic domination formed by a patriarchal tyrannical religious following.  It goes beyond the past 100 years of Progressive infiltration into American culture, back to the Crusades and Barbary Coast periods in World History.  He’s a believer and apologist for Islam….not an American….playing to the liberal racist guilt and their political correctness.  He knows its power, vertically inbred into our unsuspecting populace for more than 100 years. 

  • Paul Helger

    If you terminate “non-essential” personnel you will not need the “emergency essential” personnel either. “Emergency essential” personnel are the ones that provide safety and facilities support (Security, Fire and Public Works) to those mission-oriented employees that perform the real work of the organization. Remember this applies to the DOD also. If you want to shut down Government use a scalpel and start with the Department of Education; the Communist indoctrination arm of the Democrat Party.

  • Anonymous

    Another example:
    For an enormous metropolitan fire department, the secretary of the fire chief would be an example of non-EMERGENCY-essential personnel.

  • Anonymous

    just like a progressive liberal, can’t make an argument so bashing is all you got, and as a piece of shit to hide the fact that you are most likely twice his size to make yourself feel better

  • Anonymous

    Why is the Patent Office threatening to close if it’s a self-funded agency?  There’s something fishy going on here.

  • Take 2

    This is all about the issue that Chief Roberts indicated Obama lied about!  Its  about the FORCED “Penalty” TAXATION phase to develop the Executive branch Gestapo – Policing
    - Collection Force!  It will drag a large section of the middle downward into the bottom feeders i.e. Communistic – Marxist two level societies. Stop it and Shut it Down.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/zerses Moirrainefortruth

    You have no idea what “essential” means from your comments.

  • Hit Manfan

    This isn’t the stupidest thing that I have ever read but it’s top three.  I can’t believe that someone took the time to write it down.

  • Anonymous

    I think both of you brought forth some excellent points to ponder.  But, I must say that the government has grown into an insatiable beast.  It will devour us all if it is not reigned in.

  • Anonymous

    I have been saying this for awhile now, to shut the gov’t down.  The essential functions will still happen.  Only non-essential functions will be shut down.  Even then, they always pay the non-essential folks for the time they were furloughed.  Shut it down.  Let the people see that we won’t miss it anyway.  Then we can get more support for cutting non-essential services.

    Mark Levin regularly points out that non-essential parts of government shutdown two days a week without fail, longer when there are holidays, even longer around Christmas/New Year’s.

    Shut it down.  Those of us who are paying the bills won’t miss it.  I think those in government fear most about the shutdown – that we will find out that we are not so dependent on them and start demanding real cuts to the government.

  • fish1552

    The problem is, “non-essential” is a misnomer here.  The term doesn’t mean they aren’t needed.  It simply means that an office can be closed for a time and they just won’t provide that service until it opens back up.  It’s not to say that service isn’t needed (like maybe ID cards or maintenance).  It just means it doesn’t involve safety or security.

  • Anonymous

    I wish you would clean up your language.  If you do not have anything of value to contribute than keep your lips zipped.  You nerve, Critten or whatever you call yourself lately.

  • Anonymous

    I think he is getting paid by the left.  No one should bother with the likes of him.  Do not waste your kindness on garbage like that, please!

  • mari

    It’s the back door to a smaller government…maybe the only door.

  • http://thefriendcenter.com/ Average Joe.

    “Why don’t we fire all ‘nonessential’ personnel?”

    Let’s start with Nancy Pelosi, she’s worthless.

  • http://thefriendcenter.com/ Average Joe.

    Looking in the mirror again?

  • http://thefriendcenter.com/ Average Joe.

    Spammer.

  • Anonymous

    I bet politicians have their money in those companies.  Did you ever wonder why many politicians come to DC and have very little to show for and when they leave they have
    giant bank accounts, like Pelosi and Reed and many others.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mcjoe71 Joe McMahon

    So fire and shut down NASA?  Almost all of NASA is considered non-essential.

  • http://www.speakthewordnow.com Karen Rose

    Sorry to bust your bubble Glenn, but we owe 70 trillion dollars, lol, as spoken about by Pastor John Hagee. Shut down the TSA and all the nonessentials. We do not need 2/3′s of these nonessentials. Don’t let them put fear In you. Do you know how much of our tax dollars are still going out of our country, daily? Billions, daily…Now just why isn’t this being shut down.

  • Dale Putnam

    If you can’t afford to buy something.. you sure can’t afford to borrow to pay, NOR print to pay. Shut it down, shut down all off shore payments too… at least for enough time to re-evaluate what it is that we are paying for, and that re-evaluation would need to be done by rational, logical thinking folks. Shut down the stuff we can live without… re-evaluate by logical thinking folks… (and that may not be anyone living in or near DC) every dime being spent otherwise.
    Put the country back on the GOLD standard. And that… would hurt for a while.. but it would also be well worth it in the long run. 

  • Luci D’Mari

    We can only hope for a shutdown of a day, an hour, a minute – for this government to get off our backs. All I can say is “Hallaluiah, Brother! I’ll take whatever I can get!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003133174652 Jo Ehrenkranz

    Shutting down government does not save any money.  When these people return to work they receive retroactive pay.   What a great job it is working for the taxpayer.

  • Salena Potter

    “Non-essential” also refers to the thousands of contractors who work for the military maintaining the efficacy, design, and logistics of necessary aircrafts (UH-1, UH-60, CH47, AH-64, OH-58, Drones, Fix-wing aircrafts, etc).  Without these individuals, our military would be significantly affected and partially crippled.  In my little neck of the woods, there are over 40,000 of these contractors who are considered “non-essential”.  Fire them?

  • Anonymous

    Point taken — anyone bother to read the original jurisdiction 13th amendment? — Whatcha think the War of 1812 was Really about? – FIRE consumes ‘evil.’ –

  • Anonymous

    Dan, you really should have spell checked before sending such an important letter to the U.S. Senate. Your lack of correctly spelling Senator does nothing for your argument that Americans are “smart, very smart”.
     

  • Anonymous

    Dan, you really should have spell checked before sending such an important letter to the U.S. Senate. Your lack of correctly spelling Senator does nothing for your argument that Americans are “smart, very smart”.

  • http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

    I was someone with balls would say these things to Obama Pelosi McCain and Reid to get their reaction

  • Anonymous

    That is easy for everyone to assume that what they in DC think is non-essential IS nonessential. However the truth is that it hurts the military the most and alot of the ‘nonessential’ is not being shut down. How do I know this? First hand!!! There are alot of military that will be working and not getting paid until…who knows when? Is this what you want first to be cut or shut down?? Do not our military deserve better?
    Thank you Leigh 2003 you are spot on.
    I agree that the government is too big and there is alot of waste, and many of the jobs are nonessential. But lets remember that it does effect many people  who are being used as pawns and being stuck in the middle. Will their creditors want to be put on hold as well? Or accept that it is ok for those people who owe them cannot pay? Lets think this through people!

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you sentiment, but not your language.  Leave the vulgarity for the leftist trolls.

  • Anonymous

    and you are NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer

  • greywolfrs

    Bad language? It’s time for people to see that words are for communication and there is no such thing as “bad language.” If that were true, than the same words in the English language would be “bad words” in England, the place the language is from, but they are not. Words such as “bloody” and “bugger” are “bad words” over there, yet we think nothing of them. Here, words such as “fuck” and “shit” are “bad words” but they think nothing of them. “Bad words” are a perception. In other words, some idiot long ago said those words were “bad” and people have been perpetuating that lie for a long time. You can feel free to break away from those lies at any time.

  • Anonymous

    Ya, we will have a bunch of long haired hippies running our govt. without the barbers doing their “essential” jobs…

  • Anonymous

    Greywolf, I was taught that anyone who had to stoop to using a lot of profanity in their speech were limited of mind and vocabulary.  And do you not notice, it is the trolls Critten, Gristle McThornbody, etc. that seem to use the most of it on this site?  They never have any real arguments to back up their point of view, never offer anything insightful.  Just vulgarity.  If I were to follow your feelings on this matter, then I shouldn’t get upset over people using the “n” word; but I do. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.densmore.96 Joe Densmore

    I understand everyone here is on the “shut it down” band wagon, but think about this.  There are people on the end of this disaster and they had nothing to due with this mess.  I am one of those people.  I rebuild jet engines for the US Air Force.  I was furloughed once this year already, how many more times due I need to sacrifice everything for this country?  I previously served my country on active duty in the Air Force for 20 years.  I just want people to know that when you want to shut the Government down, you are laying off mostly middle class personnel.

  • Tyler Cross

     My cousin works at the Great Lakes Naval base with their engineering department, his work is considered “non-essential” but who else would do it? Everyone underestimates the complexity of the division of labor our government facilities have, especially Mr. Beck here. Maybe the better thing to say is, investigate what jobs are not completely necessary for the function of the government as a whole, rather than just firing all “non-essential” employees.

  • Anonymous

    In 1812 we were not in the hole for 17,000,000,000.00 and we didn’t have a commie in charge

  • Anonymous

     Well – actually ‘No’.  Although a “clean sweep” sounds tempting,
    there are actually many GOOD people in Congress & the Senate.  We
    CAN’T AFFORD to lose the GOOD people, they are already too few of them. 

    I do believe that targeting CERTAIN left liberrals can do ALLOT to change the face of ‘ou…er’, oops I almost said ‘OUR’ government. The face of ‘this’ government.  Key Word is TARGETING.  Remove the leaders and many of their smaller accomplices will lose their races by themselves.
    We got Nancy Pelosi out, we CAN get Harry Reid out.  YES WE CAN!

  • doubletrouble

    Well I am disappointed in you Glenn.  The thought crossed my mind to cancel.  Still might.  I am a libertarian and a federal employee.  My husband is too.  He works for grain inspection packers and stockyards.  He makes sure the sale barns are not ripping people (farmers) off with scales that are manipulated, he represents chicken growers against the big companies etc..  He is appropriated therefore nonessential.  My branch is revenue earning so we will continue.  I agree govt needs to size wayyyyyyyy down.  But, everyone you are talking about are people who do get up and work!!!!!  Washington people will not be effected.  This will really hurt many families. 

  • Anonymous

    I would not want the non essential personnel to be fired and here’s why.  My husband is an instructor for the Air Force on a base in Texas and he would loose his job.  This shut down does nothing but put Air Force training behind and disrupt our life.  We have already been effected severely with the sequester and losing half a months pay and now they want to shut down the government and take their sweet time trying to fix things.  I am feed up with this.  You can’t plan a family budget if you don’t even know if there will even be any money to budget in the first place.  Somebody please stop this insane madness.  American families can’t take much more of this.  We should not be held hostage while the congress refuses to play nice with others.  Fire them instead and maybe we can get back to having a life and left alone for a change.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tina-Meyers/727735801 Tina Meyers

    In addition, I want these that are saying shut it down to learn a new term for them, called trickle down economics.  If we don’t work and get paid, we don’t need the companies that support us…for example, the gas stations, grocery stores, car lots, etc.  because we have no money to spend.  So where I live when I hear people who don’t know what goes on on a military base start talking this stuff, I wonder how many of them realize what can happen to their jobs when they live in a city whose major industry is that base!

  • Pam

    I think that Senate and Congress should keep working, and the President and Vice President, etc., but without pay. I think until a fiscal budget is approved, they should all work for free. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tina-Meyers/727735801 Tina Meyers

    They pay taxes as well lest you forget

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tina-Meyers/727735801 Tina Meyers

    Contractors are going to be working. Due to the way contracts are written, they can’t spend money on personnel where they get nothing in return as most labor is firm fixed price.  They will work while govt personnel will be furloughed

  • Anonymous

    Sometime in the past I read an article about an (unessential Doorman) at the White house that had 30 years or so  with an office which he would come to work and do NOTHING for 30  plus years. I wonder who’s relative he was????

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUrbEIqFl_Q Sam Fisher

    I watched Mike Huckabee Sunday night and he got a good idea let’s put Obamacare on a time limit and all at once to get it done and over with and if it sucks like the me and gop thinks it will than they will win the next election and get rid of the thing and Get enough people on this and they may get a super majority sure it is a gamble but so is shutting down the government is also a big gamble out of the two choices I think what Huckabee said is more reasonable at this point and time. Seeing how playing chicken with people’s lives is just going to back fire in our face. This way the Dems will have to take responsibility for this mess.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1310448980 Rich Salyers

    How can you see to type with your head so far up your ass?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1310448980 Rich Salyers

    How can you see to type with your head so far up your ass?

  • nona

    I am so looking forward to election time!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1310448980 Rich Salyers

    Because unlike you leaches they ACTUALLY work!

  • Anonymous

    Can you imagine what it would feel like to be considered non-essential in your employment? In other words, you don’t make a difference. You are not important in your employment. You are the fat on the body of the government. You’re probably overweight and obese too, because you work for the government and eat the taxpayer’s donuts. You are a parasite.

  • nona

    I used to only vote for Dems…it was a decades long thing in our family, but over a decade ago my eyes opened up (thank the Lord) and I saw how far left and destructive the Dems are and how they put our country in harm’s way over and over. Not to mention the lives of millions of unborn children at stake.
    My sister and I were at a local fair and the politicians were all set up in booths etc. My sister disagreed with a Democrat who did not like her view. He began yelling at her and said he did not want her vote (he never had her vote) and he used some very bad language as he yelled.
    This is a pattern…tantrums …
    I thank God for Glenn Beck and patriots like him that are not afraid to stand up for this country and for Freedom.

  • Anonymous

    As a commercial diver in the Gulf of Mexico, Because of that green commie I was shut down, no work for 2 year after the oil spill. I think your cousin will do just fine and not lose a dime, because government will not get smaller.
    And don’t tell me that the oil spill justifies it. If there’s a plane crash and hundred die, you don’t shut down the airline. Too many government  air traffic controllers and the NSA would never miss a pay check.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bradly.countryman Bradly Countryman

    Actually, the ones that need to be fired are not affected by the shutdown. When you generalize Government, you do not think of the civilians that support the men and women in Uniform still serving. I support a U. S. Army Team of 60+ personnel that train/coach/mentor our Soldiers for combat, yet the shutdown includes me, the Furlough included me. The civilian workforce supporting the Armed Forces provide the continuity when the Uniformed Servicemen/women rotate in and out every 18-24 months. Yet, we are considered non-essential? Politicians, in my opinion, are the non-essential ones since they are getting paid to do a job they aren’t doing and pushing a Health Care Law they are not included in. Where is the accountability?

  • Anonymous

    Government has had 17 shutdowns since 1976 and we are still here.

  • Anonymous

    Shut it ALL down. The only ESENTIAL role of fed government is to raise and keep an army to protect the citizenry. That’s it. Our government is so bloated and wasteful its disgusting. Everything the govt claims they need to offer using money we don’t even have, should either be done by the individual, the local community, or a local institution (such as the church).

  • Anonymous

    Guess who guards the president???!!!!  One guess?  He talked about the republicans holding US hostage over ovomitcare?  Look who he takes hostage.   Really!!  

  • Anonymous

    Uh oh…We have a govt employee here. Boo hoo. Folks have been feeling the pinch for years I have relatives and friends that have been out of work for extended periods of time, had to make career moves. The private sector, middle class has been through heck, and this Prez (if you can call him that) has made things very painful. The threat of temporarily shutting down a government $17T in debt comes up, and govt employees throw a complete fit. Honestly, seal it! I can say that 1) Bc I used to be a fed employee for the Department of Def. 2) Bc it’s my tax dollars at work 3) Bc we still have freedom of speech…for now.

  • Anonymous

    My guess pal, is that you and I would have a VERY different idea of what is “essential”.

  • Pablo Descartes

    Sitting here listening to Mark Levin, uttered “do it, shut it down!” Checked my emails, the Blaze leader reads “go ahead & shut it down”.
    I support the House sending the bill right back to our weak “representatives” in senate.
    Shut it down.

  • Anonymous

    Now we are faced with a shutdown. As Mark Levin has said. The President doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He will do everything possible to make it as miserable as possible for the common people and blame it all on the Republicans. I have said it many times in the past and I will say it again. You can’t just blame the Democrats. From January 1995 to January 2007 the Republicans dominated the House and the Senate. In 2001 they added control of the White House. They had six years to put something through just the way the Democrats shoved Obamacare down our throats. They could have opened up Alaska and allowed drilling and mining of our own resources and also funded some serious research on developing alternate sources of energy. The Republicans dropped the ball when it was in their court. I bet the politicians in Congress will still get paid tomorrow. I bet that the President’s czars get paid. I bet the countries that hate us are still getting their billions in foreign aid. I bet the politicians in Congress aren’t forced to cancel any of their phony fact finding junkets or perks. I bet the President’s czars and higher government officials aren’t forced to make any sacrifices. We all know that the President isn’t canceling any of his vacations and golf outings. Once again, like always, the American People take it in the shorts. Bend Over Here It Comes Again (BOHICA)! If the President really wanted to make brownie points with the people, he would cancel his golf outings and vacations. I guess that would be asking too much from a typical do-as-I-say-and-not-as-I-do type of leader. Instead of playing the finger pointing blame game, we need more people to get out and vote and work on those 50% plus, who stay home on election days, to get off dead center and vote. Forget about the general elections and work on encouraging more people to challenge the incumbents in the primaries and get them out of the picture before the election. We need get rid of all those old career politicians and elect all new people to send to Washington. We need bold people who aren’t afraid to make the tough decisions no matter what the media says. Forcible people who will stand up to the phony environmentalist and Animal rights people and tell them to go to countries like Venezuela, China and India and convince them to start working to do their part. Rude people who will fire the deadheads and foot kissers and tell the business as usual seven carbon copy idiots to jump in the lake. Most of all they have to be young people because we have to be a young country again. If we get those kind of people we just may be able to make it. The history books are full of examples where the American People were able to put their differences aside and work together to solve problems. That was why we were on the winning side in two world wars.

  • Igor Shafarevich

    As the amount of knowledge grows with civilization’s advance, the smaller the fraction of knowledge that our own mind can absorb and the more relatively ignorant each of us becomes.

  • Anonymous

    You are spot on. This is the consequences of what happens when the misinformed and freeloaders elect a do-as-i-say-and-not-as-i-do leadership.

  • Pamela Rinehart

    Let’s see.  Who’s nonessential?  I don’t need a talk show host or a radio station, so they can be out of a job, since they don’t actually produce anything except misinformation and hysteria.  If I don’t get paid, I won’t need any waiters or waitresses, because I won’t be able to afford to eat out.  Heck, I won’t be able to buy much food either, so they can get rid of some stockpersons and cashiers.  I’ll switch to cheaper foods so I won’t eat as much meat or fish and I sure won’t be buying too much overpriced produce so we’ll be able to get rid of all those nonessential farmers and truckers involved in supplying them. I won’t need to pay any parking attendants, since I won’t be going to work or shopping anywhere I need to pay to park.  I won’t need to hire a painter for my house or a repairman, since I’ll have time to fiddle with stuff myself and since I don’t have enough money to last for more than a few weeks, there won’t be any need for banking or investment services.

    Non-essential does not mean “not needed” – it’s a designation for positions that are not involved in activities directly related to the orderly shutdown of operations and payment of bills, or the protection of federal property and lives.  Once the operations and contracts are closed out, those folks leave too.  Essential personnel are those who have to show up for work even if there is a hurricane raging.  They are the ones who can do the minimum required in an emergency situation, but they cannot sustain agency operations.  The operations staffed by nonessential personnel are those required to facilitate the orderly operation of commerce in this country, to sustain the transportation infrastructures and keep us safe, to manage disease outbreaks, toxins and monitor our food supplies so they are safe, to step in when disaster strikes, to prevent importation of dangerous counterfeit goods, and to ensure that everyone gets equal access to protections under the law.

    It’s long been popular to bash federal employees, calling them lazy, unproductive, etc., and there’s a popular misconception that the government is filled with people who are incompetent or otherwise just taking up space.  This couldn’t be further from the truth.  As with any office or organization, I suppose there could be some who skate by, but feds really don’t tolerate that kind of thing. After decades of hiring freezes, lean operations and lack of adequate office supplies, transfers of jobs to contractors who are paid more than twice as much for the same work that used to be done by federal employees and who nickel and dime every task given to them, and insane legal demands that hamstring workers in ways no sane person should have to tolerate, Feds once again find themselves the scapegoat for every hater out there who just wants to spout the latest Tea Party BS.  Think about it.  

    I won’t pretend to fully understand Obamacare.  I do know that because of it, my sons, now 21 and 23, both are still covered under my insurance and I am grateful for that.  I already spend more on my policy than the new policies are supposed to cost because I have always opted for additional coverage to be there if I needed it.  This was voted on and passed into law by a majority.   Having bitter losers hold government operations hostage to try to force a repeal of it is an example of bullying and political terrorism.  Stand up to them and tell them to behave like adults instead of petulant children.  It’s a democracy – saner heads prevailed and they didn’t get their short-sighted way.  They need to get over it.

  • Anonymous

    I also notice the same thing about liberals.  When they run out of intelligent things to say (Which seems to be all the time) they resort to yelling, profanity, name calling and tantrums.  When I encounter them I ask them what they want to be when they grow up. 

  • Anonymous

    SHUT IT DOWN……..That nasty little creeper, Hairy Reed, makes it sound WE are the ones who are at fault, while it’s really the Democrats and their lies and ineptness to balance any budget or get people to work; it’s you who are causing all the problems.

    Just WHO do you think you are, trying to make us take obamacare that will cause so many to lose lots of hours each week or lose their jobs and pay double or more for that horrible health insurance program, that really isn’t about Insurance at all.

    OK, Mr. Reed, if we get stuck with this horrible supposed health care, put yourselves and all your staff on the same health care you’re shoving down our throats and cancel the Cadillac plan you guys are giving yourselves.   If this debacle is good enough for us, it’s good enough for all of you and your staff………Do it or cancel this abomination, NOW and let’s get back to business of running this Country with some honor from the Republican side of the aisle, since children like you would rather play silly little games that most of us understand is a slap in the face.

  • Anonymous

     They’re getting paid to do nothing now.  Do you really think they would be willing to work for nothing?

  • Anonymous

     Actually, they get such big heads, they think we work for them.  hahaha,   just like most of those politicians who couldn’t find their backside with both hands tied behind them.    yup, that ignorant of common facts.  YOU WORK FOR WE, THE PEOPLE of the United States of America, and don’t you forget it.

  • Anonymous

    You got it hon.   Time to rid Congress of incompetent nar-do-wells who actually
    think that place is theirs, they’ve been there so long, skrewing the public more with each term they  (laughingly) serve.  Sweep it clean  in 2014.
    Give them all a lesson that they work for us, we don’t work for them.  They are supposed to serve us and listen to our needs and desires………but Oh, No,, not them. Heaven forbid???

  • zgli

    You are very wrong on this.   Most if not all of these named “non essential govt workers ” are NON ESSENTIAL.  I hope the govt shuts down for at least a year to two or three so that they can stop damaging our country.  Send all of the House and the Senate home for a year or two to do no more damage to our country.   It will be fine.  People will prosper,  folks will be fed.   Open the jails and let out all of the prisoners, and let folks purchase all of the ammunition they need and any guns and rifles that they perceive that they need.  The American people are fine.   We can create our own justice system and help other folks in need.  Well,  pretty much of all of the NON ESSENTIAL govt workers should be fired immediately.

  • Anonymous

    mighty right

  • Anonymous

    Now their you go friend.  Couldn’t have said that better

  • Anonymous

    Now that’s weird, because my dad, when I was growing up said the same thing.  We would road triping and ran across people working the high way, and he saw 2 or 3 standing around doing nothing, they where dead heads.  That term been around very long time

  • zgli

    he is non essential and should be fired immediately

  • Anonymous

    commie,mulism,and socialist all in one,  pretty bad

  • zgli

    oil spill histeria is a NON ESSENTIAL form of govt taxation

    let’s just shut down the EPA as the most NON ESSENTIAL dept of govt and then our economy will prosper like the 1920′s

  • zgli

    nice reply,  are you a troll or just limited in understanding ?

  • mspatdev

    Besides we are paying through the nose for the big empty government  buildings and no one is in them. Why can’t they get rid of them? Why can’t they rent them out? The government can’t even take care of those building right under their nose in D.C. That is a total waste OF OUR TAX MONEY. We don’t need non-essential people working and buildings that cost us a lot of money.

  • mspatdev

    obammy and his minions/cabinet and the Senate can’t even compromise with the House as to pass any bills. obammy ought to be ashamed of himself for not working with either the house or senate. He has told every body in the world that he isn’t going to work with the house. Why is it that he wants to work with the brotherhood in the mid-east countries, Iran, Russia and others, but he can’t work with OUR GOVERNMENT? He pays them millions/billions of OUR MONEY. When is he going to help the American people? Not to be racist, but all of the people?

  • mspatdev

     I agree with you. Maybe China will want there money that obammy keeps borrowing. The more money he prints, the more everything is costing us. He probably wants that to. I would like the USA factories to move back to the USA. I’m tired of buying things made in China and a lot of them do not work very good.

  • Anonymous

    Lets start the firings in the White House!

  • Walter Rutkowski

    Congress ( Elected Senators, and  Representatives) should be docked for the pay that should beginning at 0001 am  , October 1st   and  the  President , VP and  the Obama  Cabinet !
    These  big  BABYS  should  suffer  in  the  wallet ; like the  non essential  Government Personel !

  • Anonymous

    Don’t know about NY, but in CA ,with it’s many taxes and fees,—the reason they are broke and

    not making it is because they SPEND all the money!  And the silly voters vote for the passage

    of bonds which take even more of the taxpayer’s money.   Of course, a large percentage of the

    money collected goes to public worker’s pensions/health care because of contracts signed

    years ago.  This includes state, county and local public workers pensions.

  • bull57

    I sure hope the 20 people that attend to Moochele are considered non-essential and are told to take a few days off!

  • omnytamer

    I wonder why the military’s pay might be delayed, but congress’s pay will be on time?

  • omnytamer

    I don’t really know of anyone that sees them as non-essential employees.  My guess is, we may be able to trim some fat there too, but I doubt you’ll meet too many people in the private sector that disagree with you that entitlement programs should be where massive cuts should take place.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dykelc Dylan Kelly

    Do you want any of these people let out? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_in_the_United_States

    Do you think women and children living alone would be capable of defending themselves against common criminals? I am so dumb founded at the ignorance you espouse.  You seem to believe the country organizes itself via magic, and that untrained, weak individuals can protect themselves from killers.

  • Anonymous

    “Non-essential” employees, or those not “excepted”, include jobs like DoD Engineers, who are planning operations, both current and future, and carrying out duties that are a vital part of our military. Someone might be on an “excepted” list if they are an overseas DoD school teacher (all teachers overseas are DoD Civilians) or an excepted employee might work at an overseas MWR office or youth services center, (which I think are less essential than our Engineers, but no one asked me). It is a very odd break down, but you can’t just assume that all “excepted” jobs are truly more important jobs than all those that were not “excepted”. I do find it interesting, that it seems it is the same DoD Civilians and their families who lost wages permanently during the summer furloughs, who are being furloughed again, and will lose those wages permanently, while other Federal employees will eventually get their pay, even if it is delayed. This “select” group of unlucky families are bearing this financial burden, and no one else.For our family, it means what we thought our annual income would be, is not even going to be close. Apparently, it is the new norm that you might get paid and you might not, and you are supposed to just grin and say, ‘”Well, I am so lucky to just have a job, even if I don’t get paid for it”, if you are a DoD “non-excepted” Civilian. 

  • Anonymous

    “Non-essential” for the  purposes of furlough and shut down are not what you might think. Please do some further research on who is excepted and who is not. “Non-essential” employees, or those not “excepted”, include jobs like DoD Engineers, who are planning operations, both current and future, and carrying out duties that are a vital part of our military. Someone might be on an “excepted” list if they are an overseas DoD school teacher (all teachers overseas are DoD Civilians) or an excepted employee might work at an overseas MWR office or youth services center, (which I think are less essential than our Engineers, but no one asked me). It is a very odd break down, but you can’t just assume that all “excepted” jobs are truly more important jobs than all those that were not “excepted”. I do find it interesting, that it seems it is the same DoD Civilians and their families who lost wages permanently during the summer furloughs, who are being furloughed again, and will lose those wages permanently, while other Federal employees will eventually get their pay, even if it is delayed. This “select” group of unlucky families are bearing this financial burden, and no one else.For our family, it means what we thought our annual income would be, is not even going to be close. Apparently, it is the new norm that you might get paid and you might not, and you are supposed to just grin and say, ‘”Well, I am so lucky to just have a job, even if I don’t get paid for it”, if you are a DoD “non-excepted” Civilian. If they need to reduce the DoD workforce, then they need to do it sensibly, and not hire new positions or fill positions when someone retires, for starters. Then “redistribute the wealth” of those job duties from closed jobs onto people in DoD who keep a job.

  • Anonymous

    You are spot on that it is the civilian “non-essential” employees that are being used as pawns. The same civilian employees who lost wages permanently in the summer furlough, are now losing money again, starting today, through the shut down. Unlike the military and “excepted” civilian employees, those families of non-excepted employees will just lose that income and never get it back. Military and excepted employees will be payed retroactively once the shut down ends. Meanwhile, our bills will have to wait and we will plan inexpensive family dinners at home, pack our kids lunches as usual, and hope we don’t go from a middle class working family to the poverty line. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/dykelc Dylan Kelly

    You also verbally bashed MoobManFan, so you are no better…

  • http://www.facebook.com/dykelc Dylan Kelly

    You can’t use the example of one random politician set up at a fair as proof Democrats have patterned tantrums.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dykelc Dylan Kelly

    Whatever one’s position on health care reform, I wish more people saw this fact.  In makes me sick that anyone would wish misfortune and joblessness, however temporary, on those who don’t deserve it.  

  • Rachel

    I agree!  The more they work, the more problems they make for the rest of us.

  • Hit Manfan

    and you are a drooling mouth breather with a room temp IQ.  What about the War Vet who is missing his legs but still supports his Marines the only way he can which happens to be working for the govt trying to make their equipment better.  Is he a parasite too?  What have you sacraficed for your country?

  • Rachel

    It’s not THEIR money, so why would they care how they waste it?  Bums.

  • Rachel

    sure there are some functions that we would keep, but you are missing their point. There are all kinds of redundant agencies and employees who are UNNECESSARY. Get rid of them.  I’d rather we be growing the private sector than the public sector.  WE have to pay those clowns and we aren’t getting a very good bang for our bucks.  Especially when we are $17 trillion in debt.  Most of the Federal Govt is expendable.

  • Hit Manfan

    Did you know that even after locomotives went to diesel the RR’s still paid a Fireman to ride the train.  A fireman on a train shovels coal and tends the fire for the boiler…  EVERY large company has waste and the government is the largest company there is.  Of course they have people who are a waste of flesh and can any of you say that every single person that you work with is %100 effective and %100 needed?

  • Rachel

    Oh lighten up.  Even a 5 yr old knows sarcasm when they here it.  I guess you must be a lefty, which explains why you missed their point.  They were speaking figuratively, not literally.  Their point was…CUT THE WASTE THERE IS PLENTY OF IT.  Nancy Pelosi thinks every govt job is necessary. That’s because she is an idiot.  Are you one too?

  • Rachel

    Yes, the more things are costing us…but the  Feds insist that there is no inflation. Who do they think they are kidding?  We know they discount all the things we citizens actually need to buy!  Like food and gas.  How machiavellian can they get?

  • Hit Manfan

    That’s not completely true.  It depends on whatthe contract is for and how it’s written.

  • Hit Manfan

    Probably not this time.  Yeah it’s great working for the government.  Wondering how much or if you are going to get a paycheck just keeps things interesting.  Besides, given what we all get for pay we don’t really need to work and this is really more of a hobby than a job.  Oh, I am a taxpayer too and I bet that I pay more taxes than you do.

  • Bonnie Hannum

    Thank you, Traditionalmom…you are exactly correct.  My husband was one of thse that were furloughed over the summer (3 months, he just went back to work Sept. 1) and we are still feeling the bite, not quite back on our feet financially yet.  We will have to use our retirement savings to pay for our monthly finances; thankfully we have no car payments to worry about, but heaven forbid if our 12 year old vehicles decide to give out! There is no way we could afford a car payment right now, even if we could convince someone to give us a loan for one.  The term “Non-Essential” applies to many employees who are needed in the jobs required to keep the offices functioning, not just “Extras” or duplicates that aren’t truly needed.  They’re the worker bees that keep things going.   Conservation agents and border patrol agents are among those that are considered “Non-Essental”,  and they are already working bare bones skeleton crews already.  This is totally unsafe for them in the first place. Now their ranks will be cut even more.  Then what.   It’s easy to spout “If they’re non-essential get rid of them and save money”….. but most of them truly are essential.   Now, if you’re honestly looking to cut back, do what the farmers do and skim the cream off the top of the milk…..that’s where all the calories are!!  

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Gadamer too

    “Why don’t we fire all ‘nonessential’ government personnel? ”

    Beck pretends to know a lot about history, but the 1998 midterm elections show that Americans don’t want a dysfunctional government.

    Watch the Republicans take a beating next year…as the tea party/Glenn Beck reactionaries damn well should.

  • http://www.facebook.com/james.brazeal.7 James Brazeal

    Wake up America this is your country.

  • Bonnie Hannum

    Rachel, just which agencies and employees do you consider UNNECESSARY?  Make a list, and then consider the importance of these positions in the function of our country.   You know, when it comes right down to it, how many jobs are really needed to keep our country alive?  The problem comes from mismanagement, overspending on unnecessary office remdels every time someone new comes into office. They literally throw out furniture that may be only a few years old, barely used. But it’s not to “their” taste, so out it goes, new items are bought and furnished.   We need to stop lending OUR taxpayer’s money to other countries to help them with their spending, and keep it flowing within our own borders.  If they can’t afford to support their country, then they need to cut back too.   Our country gave out so much money without getting anything back, that now we can’t afford to pay our own.  How about let’s start with eliminating the 21 “assistants” to the president’s wife? Especially when past wives were able to get along just fine with under FIVE.  That’s a good chunk of change right there.   Why does anyone in congress need to be chauffered in limos; if they can’t drive themselves, it’s time for them to retire.  And their retirement should come from their own savings, we shouldn’t have to keep supporting them after they are no longer doing the job!  Rachel, there are many ways to cut sensless spending….make a list.  There is a LOT to choose from before cutting out the “Non-Essential” worker bees of the hive and in turn causing them to become homeless.  (Do you suppose any of the white house “assistants” have been furloughed from their made to order invented positions?)

  • red55bird

    Hey look everybody the world didn’t end last night because the Government shut down, oh but if you listen to MSM those bad Republicans wanted to hurt you and keep you from having healthcare, how many times do you need to cry wolf before people wake up in America and see what Socialism is all about. More then 90 million people either out of work or working part time jobs and Obama crying wolf because those bad Republican Congressmen want let him have his pride and joy Socialize Medicine. It’s about time these men and women in Congress listen to what the American people our trying to tell them, we the people do not want Socialize Medicine or bigger Government and out of control spending. This President has broken the law by rewriting his own law on healthcare 17 times already and this is Impeachable and Congress needs to Impeach Obama.  

  • Hit Manfan

    Common courtesy, common decency and common sense.  You were ill raised and should consider acquiring the first two if not ll three.

  • Bonnie Hannum

    Leigh2003, yes, the general public is unaware of all the jobs that our leaders deem “NON-essential”, but truly do play their part.  For example, my husband’s job is to keep the computers up and running in the hospital on the army post.  His positon is non-essential, but without it, the computers get locked down, doctors can’t post their orders, prescriptions can’t get filled, nurses don’t have access to patient information; the list goes on. (Oh, btw, pharmacy technicians positions are cut to minimum, so when they have to start filling orders by phone or written script, it all slows down to a snail’s pace) as does everything else. Non essential personnel are the ones that record patient information, so then the personnel who actually perform the needed proceedures have to take time away from their patients to record the information themselves.  No cafeteria personnel, skeleton crew for preparing hospital patient’s food only. Janitors, maintenance, laundry…. the list goes on. And this is just the hospital personnel on the army post.  Then there are other worker’s jobs who take care of the military personnel in their daily duties and chores.   Away from military bases, there are State and Federal Parks and Recreation workers, Department of Natural Resources, Firefighters, forestry employees…. all considered non-essential.   I do think the general public only sees political waste when they hear “Non-essential” which of course, is where the major spending waste comes from.  The problem is when all these other livelyhoods are lumped into the same kettle titled “Non-Essential” positions……..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000426270364 Craig Watts

    Great information and a clear view of what can be done.

  • Anonymous

    I guess you’re the one who’s telling me that the “War Vet who is missing his legs but still supports his Marines the only way he can which happens to be working for the govt trying to make their equipment better” is a parasite. At least you’re the one who brought that person into this discussion and equated him as a parasite. Check my post, I didn’t. I didn’t say anything about the Veteran.

    Since I don’t know the person to whom you’re referring to, you tell me. Do you consider his job non-essential? If not, then he’s not part of the discussion, is he?

    A Veteran deserves all of the benefits that are due them from their country, especially those who were drafted and had no choice but to serve. But, they have to put forth the effort to educate or train themself and become a contributing member of the society. The country owes nobody a handout or a living, including the Veteran. The WWII and Vietman Veterans didn’t expect it, so why should the current Vets?

    And to answer your last question: I served 9 years in the U.S. Army.

    ……and we’ll let the reader decide who the “drooling mouth breather with a room temp IQ” is.

  • Paul Ahrens

    Bonnie, I agree with you that the use of “non-essential” employees is being overly used in this discussion.  However, to indicate that “all” non-essential employees are needed to run our Federal Government is ridiculous also.  And this does not include you, but anyone who believes our government is running like a well oiled machine is a moron.  there is no industry in the world that can operate with that type of loss on a continuous basis.  Glen is right.  Texas has the right idea and the results are evident.

  • Chris

    Except that you have no clue about what you’re talking about.  “Most of the Federal Govt is expendable.”  This is not correct.  Most of the federal government contains people who have received the equivalent of associates degrees in their areas of expertise.  Due in part for all the training they have had to receive through the years to do their jobs.  This is a very big investment to maintain qulaified individuals in respective fields.  I agree that the private sector needs work but on average people in the military and most federal positions require training that is well above what the average joe will ever need.  Say what you will but a defense must be maintained by qualified people otherwise that blanket of freedom will dissolve.  Politics aside we are real people just like you.  I’m a 13 year veteran and currently a federal employee.  This non-essential word they are throwing around is simply that a word to describe something that they don’t understand which is misleading to everyone else without an intimate knowledge of the system. 

  • Anonymous

    Once there was a way to get back homeward once there was a way to get back home sleep pretty darling’s don’t you cry.
    YOU VOTED FOR FUNDIMENTAL TRANSFORMATION
                                DONE !
    OCTOBER 1, 2013    

  • Anonymous

    while all of you creepy, self-righteous smug assholes immediately join in Glenn Beck’s echo-chamber of idiotic filth, I would urge you to consider that all the people who were just gunned down at the Navy Yard fall into the category of ‘non-essential govt employees’…  YEAH, TO HELL WITH THOSE PEOPLE>>> FIRE THEM!!! YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!  A BUNCH OF FREELOADERS THEY ARE!!! A BIG WASTE OF TAX-PAYERS MONEY!!!  TO HELL WITH THEM!! YEAH YEAH!!  LISTEN TO GLENN BECK!!!  HE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS!!

  • Bonnie Somer

    Glenn they can fund the govt on all the taxes including the 23 new obamacare taxes they take in i would like them to ask me how should we spend your money yep our money not theirs we give them too much 

  • laura

    Lets have a volunteer congress made up of the people… how about that,, let them give their time for the good of the country.. period!

  • Anonymous

    You are right on with your post, I wish someone look into it, how much waste there is in government!

  • Anonymous

    And especially get out of the UN.  The money spent there is a total waste!

  • Anonymous

    the people recently gunned down at the Navy Yard were ‘non-essential govt employees’

  • Anonymous

    I am sure millions more have the same wish.  I for one hate
    buying stuff “made in China” but it seems nowadays almost everything is made outside the USA.  And printing money is
    not the answer.  Google “Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic” and you will know what is coming our way in the good old USA.

  • Anonymous

    Many of these attorneys that you claim are actually essential are merely litigating the non-Constitutional roles that the Federal Government took on.  As you say these people “civilly prosecute health care fraud.”  Well, if the Federal Government didn’t assume a role in ‘funding’ health care or in redistributing people’s wealth to pay for other people’s health care, then these attorneys wouldn’t need to ” civilly prosecute health care fraud.”  
    Furthermore, if the federal government wasn’t involved in every aspect of our lives, and kept the Federal Government small, as the Founding Fathers and the Constitution intended, then much of the civil and criminal litigation wouldn’t be necessary.

    As far as the federal courts running out of money in 10 days, if they run out of money, how could they issue ‘default judgments against the U.S. Government’ as you inquire.

    And all the Federal Courts would have to do if these pompous federal attorneys were furloughed for a period of time would be to stay the actions, rather than grant default judgments. 

  • Anonymous

    Glen can’t be more stupid, O’ yes he can. Remember when he tried to explain his Mormon faith as the Gospel….Gold tablet with Mr Smith.
    Glen is even to stupid for Fox New, anyone that list to Fox New is just retarded.

  • Anonymous

    Idiot right-wing nuts

  • Anonymous

    This is why the right will never be allow to Hold the office of the presidency…even if we have to rig the election. The right-wing nut are not capable of run a nation or even their own lives.

  • Anonymous

     Idiot GOP

  • Jon Ecker

     Absolutely! Finally someone who understands that the term “essential” is completely arbitrarily defined. I’ve worked for the DoD for 6 years now as a scientist and engineer. I can assure you that my mission is essential to the military – yet I’m considered “non-essential”. It’s absolutely ludicrous and time to move on to the private sector – I can make more money there anyway. So much patriotism…

  • Anonymous

    First of all, the federal government has responsibilities an order of magnitude graver and more complex than that of a state legislature. Congress has to deal with international crises, financial crises, and the matter of passing a budget (or these days, yet another continuing resolution) in an era of increasingly polarized politics. Not to mention that the Texas legislature only has to worry about the needs of Texas, whereas the US Congress has to do its part for Texas and 49 other states plus a handful of territories. 

    Running a country of 300 million people living in a republic of 50 semi-sovereign states is, in fact, a full-time job. This kind of argument is at best frighteningly ignorant, and at worst is frighteningly cynical as a piece of misdirection to manipulate the frighteningly ignorant.

  • greywolfrs

    Pot meet kettle, dunce.

  • greywolfrs

    Pot meet kettle. “to stupid?” It’s “too stupid,” dunce. It’s Fox NEWS, not Fox New. You are a complete idiot and have the nerve to call anyone else dumb. Your Pyschological Projection is showing again.

  • greywolfrs

    Yeah, there NO non-essential government employees. Every one of them are REQUIRED for the government to function. Dumbass.

  • greywolfrs

    Are you still crying, vicki tiffany the coward? Hey, you are actually using an account, quick, change it to guest, punk bitch.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah and the families that those “non essential” support what happens to them?  Non-essential is a misnomer.  The non-essential employees are everyone except building maintenance or what is need to make sure the building are secure running and safe.  So anyone from telephone operators through to Dept. Managers are non-essential.

    Let’s be realistic.  How much are we paying our elected officials to fight out there political pandering and posturing why we the tax payer suffer?  roughly $3 million a day to have these wind bags do nothing.  But yes, lets fire the tax paying office administrator or computer technician or secretary or custodian.

  • greywolfrs

    And you should stick it up your ass. You completely missed the point, imagine that. Just because someone told you they were vulgar does not mean I have to buy into that lie. If you don’t like, I don’t give two shits. Fuck off, dipshit.

  • Guest

    You mean that one half of one Party of one half of one legislative body, which is one third of the government, shouldn’t be free to throw temper tantrums and get their way?

    I thought we have a government of the 12th, by the 12th and for the 12th.

  • Guest

    And greywolf rs (for real stupid), the most smug a$$hole of them all, replies:

  • Guest

    Thank you again for showing people just how immature Beck’s most loyal defenders are. You make the case as to why people should ignore Beck and his sheeple better than 436 posts on The Glenn Beck Review. 

  • greywolfrs

    What’s the matter, vicki tiffany the coward? You too big of a punk bitch to reply directly to me? You are such a coward.

  • greywolfrs

    Now that’s the vicki tiffany we know, coward to the end.

  • greywolfrs

    Yeah, strtlk/critter has many accounts. It’s the way the left wing dolts can make it seem as though there are more of them then there actually are. The funny part is they believe that no one knows it’s them.

  • greywolfrs

    Both?

  • greywolfrs

    He is not only seeing it and smelling it, it’s so far up his ass, he can taste it.

  • greywolfrs

    You got one thing correct, you are dumb.

    By the way, using wikipedia as a source shows just how stupid you are. You do realize that ANYONE can edit wikipedia, right? Man, you are ignorant.

  • Paul Kawaja

    why not cut the salaries of congress and the president? they volunteered to run for office so it is essentially volunteer work and therefore doesnt deserve a check.

  • Jaamoose

    We should have shut it all down. close every single thing, starting with padlocking military bases, air traffic control towers, border patrol, social security, every damn thing – shut it all down, Close the entire gov, let the teabaggers stew in their own feces. 

  • Jaamoose

    Careful, you are speaking logic on a Glenn Beck site….In solidarity, and to force the baggers to pony up to reality, everything should have been shut down. All agencies, across the board, no exceptions. 

  • Guest

    Beck will do whatever he can to make it harder for working class people. He’s the propagandist of the Koch brothers.

  • http://thefriendcenter.com/ Average Joe.

    Grey, Dylan is a Vaccuman sock.

  • Anonymous

    Shut it down and get rid of all of the unnecessary employees of the government.  They forget they work for us.

  • Anonymous

    traditionalmom, below, is absolutely correct.  I am aware of one analyst deemed “nonessential” who has a role in the planning of every Special Forces mission, and also every planning event we have, or had, regarding situations such as the recent events in Syria.  When that person, who earns about $80K annually, is not available to perform those duties, defense consultants for whom their companies are paid $200k per year, EACH, are called to try to do that analyst’s job.  Generally, they have not been able to do it.  One team of five people, working under a contract costing the government over $200K apiece, was brought in from Washington DC on one occasion when she was not available, but still could not get the job done.

    That person has already lost $4,000 of income in the “sequester” – but was asked repeatedly, by generals, to come in despite being furloughed.  The analyst refused – coming in under those circumstances was specifically forbidden in the law.  

    THAT is who the government is deeming “nonessential.”  And that person, who has highly marketable skills (two undergraduate degrees, a Masters’ in Telecommunications engineering and part way through yet another dual-degree Masters in cybersecurity) is looking for employment elsewhere because of the absolutely crappy treatment.  And when the analyst walks, 30 years of military experience walk out too.

    Way to go.

  • Dorothy Davis

    It is so right on that I wrote to my Senator and said..  OK now fire all the people who are not getting paid. 

  • Dorothy Davis

    We do not need the federal law officers.  We can use the Military we have stationed in Germany doing nothing.    I am so excited about this Government shutdown and the great thing is Maybe they should stop whining they have had our lives next to starvation for atleast 5 years now.  We need to let the Government stay shut down now for atleast 4 months so some of these people file bankruptcy and know what it feels like…

  • Anonymous

    Most of the “non-essential” personnel are average joes trying to make a living. My husband works for the Forest Service keeping the radios going for firefighters and the like but he is considered “non-essential”. Before saying “Fire all of them” Glen, people need to look deeper into it. It is dangerous to say that as many of these employees that are furloughed barely make enough to get by on and have families, responsibilities, and bills to pay. Many of these “nonessential personnel” are barely making their bills and now have to worry about whether they will get paid. Maybe some of the people who are saying to “fire them all” need to consider how they would make it if they were put on nonpaid vacation time because essentially that is what the government shut down did to the “nonessential personnel”. Now I know that some people will say that “nonessential personnel” are not needed but the term isn’t the right word for it. These are members of society who are often the low-men on the totem pole so to speak. It’s the members of Congress , the president, and their staffers that need to lose money since they are the ones who created this mess. I support what Ted Cruz and the like are doing since most of the American public is not aware of how “Obamacare” will screw them in the end. However, I was disgusted when I heard Glen state that ” all nonessential personnel” should be fired.

  • Anonymous

    just pla nt obozoe  and have it done  w ith

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1143775216 Joetta Thompson Colquette

    While I agree there could be positions or jobs that may not be essential as you deem them to be, I disagree with the overall blanket statement.  My husband is furloughed, deemed nonessential right now, but as an electrician, if something goes wrong or is needed electrically, he WILL be needed.  I know that for the past year at least, the department that he works in, has not had funding and the employees have had to be creative in finding supplies and solutions, yet the standards for what is expected of the work to be done has not changed.  I think a better solution would be to defund the pay of legislators, those elected would serve voluntarily, and to have term limits on their time of service.  I think it is unfair to place the burden of our country’s financial troubles on those who work for the government and are trying to earn a living to support their families.  We have just finished a furlough where, in our family, we lost $1000 a month income,and others lost more including their jobs.  We just received our first “normal” paycheck only to now be furloughed without any pay for an indefinite period of time.  At the base we live on, we have also had to move twice in the past 12 months because the government broke their lease with base housing.  Now we also get the news that our healthcare premiums will be doubled as well.  I think you need to do better research before making blanket statements and assumptions.
    By the way, my husband is also a veteran.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1143775216 Joetta Thompson Colquette

    While I agree there could be positions or jobs that may not be essential as you deem them to be, I disagree with the overall blanket statement.  My husband is furloughed, deemed nonessential right now, but as an electrician, if something goes wrong or is needed electrically, he WILL be needed.  I know that for the past year at least, the department that he works in, has not had funding and the employees have had to be creative in finding supplies and solutions, yet the standards for what is expected of the work to be done has not changed.  I think a better solution would be to defund the pay of legislators, those elected would serve voluntarily, and to have term limits on their time of service.  I think it is unfair to place the burden of our country’s financial troubles on those who work for the government and are trying to earn a living to support their families.  We have just finished a furlough where, in our family, we lost $1000 a month income,and others lost more including their jobs.  We just received our first “normal” paycheck only to now be furloughed without any pay for an indefinite period of time.  At the base we live on, we have also had to move twice in the past 12 months because the government broke their lease with base housing.  Now we also get the news that our healthcare premiums will be doubled as well.  I think you need to do better research before making blanket statements and assumptions.
    By the way, my husband is also a veteran.

  • thedirtman

    I am a federal employee, and I also agree.  Nonessential employees should be fired, as well as any federal employee that thinks they are nonessential.  

    However, the term ‘nonessential employees” does not apply.  As any individual agency will reply there is no nonessential status.  In fact I am not really on furlough, I am on permanent on-call basis awaiting emergency call.  In other words, I have been ordered to work for free.

  • Douglas Self

    The wording is unfortunate.  As one of those Federal employees furloughed in the wake of the Gov’t shutdown, I would take severe umbrage that my work was anything less than “essential’.  Of course, like any Federal employee, Civil Service or Appointed, I serve at the please of the President of the United States.  My employment is NOT an entitlement, it is compensation for professional services rendered.  IF the President, through the duly appointed chain of command (I work in the DoD) decides that my services are no longer required, then He is perfectly able to retire me or otherwise terminate my employment IAW Federal law.
    I would agree that due to the utter size of the Federal “Budget” (the huge deficit decries any notion that any prudent “budgeting” such as any private business, household, or even well-managed municipality would use is in force) that what the Federal Government is doing, and how it’s doing it, is in dire need of review.  If my job is a casualty of such a review, so be it.  I’m also a taxpayer and with almost 30 years in the service of Uncle Sam, the Federal Government being restored to fiscal sanity is in my personal interests as well as what the country needs the most. In fact, the JCS have identified our ever-mounting debt as the greatest threat to National Security.

  • Douglas Self

     I agree that the designation “non-essential” is demeaning and unfortunate.  “Time-critical” or “mission-critical” is a more accurate term.  Those that understandably despise the Government that takes an ever-increasing portion of their earnings either are ignorant of the distinction or wilfully pontificating in their self-righteousness.  Still, let all “Federales”understand one thing:  it’s employment, NOT entitlement, subject to the pleasure of the President and the Congress.  How do you like it now?

  • Douglas Self

     We have to face that in the size and composition of the Federal workforce, as well as OTHER Federal expenditures (even more jobs are with firms whose primary business is with the Federal Government), it all needs to be subject to severe scrutiny.  If my job goes therefore as a result, so be it.  Also under need of scrutiny which few in Congress have the courage to touch is the gargantuan growth of Federal “entitlements”.  It outstrips everything else that traditionally the Federal Government has and still does.

  • Douglas Self

     When I saw Harry Reid (a fellow Latter-Day Saint, in this case much to my disgust) doing his cynical breast-beating about how the Lake Mead recreational area is closed down thanks to shutdown, the first question that comes to mind is:  why aren’t the park operations run under contract?  Why aren’t they fee-dependent?  For that matter, why hasn’t the dam and reservoir been transferred to the several states bordering it or some multi-state municipality (much like New York, liberal bastion that it is, still does well with the Port of New York Authority or Pennsylvania does with SEPTA).  The Federal Government needs to divest itself of being in the “recreational” business and get out of the water management business that there is no specific authority in the US Constitution to perform.

  • Douglas Self

     Well-said, Chris.  All Federal agencies, especially the DoD, have an Inspector General which has as a major part of its function to audit that Federal monies are being spent as the Congress intended in the budget.  Part of that is also a job performance and necessity review…that the workforce is competent, capable, and actually does the work expected, and that the mix of positions and grades is appropriate for the work and the marketplace. Yes, Uncle Sam has to compete in the job marketplace like anyone else.  And folks have this notion that we Federales just put out feet up on the desk, chew the fat, and drink coffee all day.  It’s sad that a few have lived down to that stereotype, but most that I’ve know in nearly 30 years of Federal service work diligently and professionally.
    This is part and parcel of our livelihood being subject to the political process.  We knew it was a ‘danger’ when we took the job (much like the cartoon character “Super Chicken” admonished his sidekick).  Just imagine what things were like in the days before the Merit System was in effect.  Mass firings whenever a new President was sworn in, and capricious crony-ism.  The present system has its issues, but it’s proved far more efficient than any other country has in recent history.

  • Douglas Self

     Well said, Leigh.  If one’s job isn’t “essential”, why does it even exist?  Both the parties of the plodding elephant and the braying jackass, save for a few that have a significant constituency of Federal employees/retirees/miltary, don’t give a hoot about the Federal workforce.  Truth be known, if they could replace what we all do with contractors (whose firms can kick in political payola that Federal employees are strictly by law and professional ethics kept far from), they will do so in a heartbeat.
    It’s easy to denounce that which you refuse to understand.

  • Douglas Self

     I have said to my fellow Federales to not expect sympathy from folks in the private sector (or even, for example, State of California employees who went through furloughs themselves and five years of no pay raises).  Sooner or later we were bound to participate in the collective misery.  Welcome to Hades.

  • Douglas Self

     The politicians don’t give a rip.  When we do go back to work, time will also be expended getting back to square one.  We’ll do it not only because we’re paid but also b/c we’re professionals and take pride in a job well done.

  • Douglas Self

     Deuce (assuming that your handle means that you’re 29, you’re the same age as my oldest son), that’s correct, but over the decades, especially since FDR, it’s mushroomed out of control.
    “Essential” is a hokey term anyway.  Either the Federal Government has the means ($$) and the authority (starting with the Constitution) to do it or else it’s a travesty.  If the latter, get off your duff and vote those that will govern responsibly!  To just pontificate and gripe accomplishes nothing.

  • Douglas Self

     Actually, I’d supply them will at the pizza and beer they could stand while supposedly working out a budget, but lock the bathrooms.  That’d give incentive to pass the stupid budget.

  • Douglas Self

     Gee, what an intelligent, uplifting comment.  Is that the best the DNC can come up with?  No wonder they’re bankrupt!

  • Douglas Self

     The politicians on both sides of the aisle don’t care, their pontificating notwithstanding.
    I recall a witty cartoon from many years ago (Googling it couldn’t turn it up).  The White House is surrounded by tanks, guns, and planes.  A White House staffer says to the President (I believe it was Jimmy Carter at the time), “Mr. President, the good news is that they’re ours.  The bad news is they want to discuss military pensions”.  Give Obama, Boehner, and the rest credit for not being completely stupid. You notice that the military continues to get paid in a timely fashion (as it should).  The last thing any of them want is a military coup.  Under the present circumstances, such a coup would likely prove popular.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FblQR8ZeUpQ

  • greywolfrs

    Hey, it’s vicki tiffany the coward. How can Beck do anything, he holds no office. You are an idiot and coward.

  • greywolfrs

    Why not just follow the Constitution and get rid of everything that is NOT specifically outlined for the Feds. Hey, there’s an idea…

  • greywolfrs

    That’s good to know…

  • Douglas Self

     “I am a libertarian and a federal employee”.  Sister!  I thought I was the only one fitting this description.
    I suspect that the shutdown will endure only about a week.  That’s when, under most states, that the 800,000 Federal employees can collect unemployment benefits (in most states, you have to “eat” the first week).
    Don’t be shocked if at some point in the future that Federal Employees are denied unemployment benefits in wake of furlough.
    I’m looking forward to “retirement” in about two years, collecting a modest pension, keeping my FEHB (if Obama doesn’t foul that up too!), but still working on top of that.  Fifty-Six is too young to hit the golf course.

  • Douglas Self

     Do what is in your best interests, Jon.  If you can do better in the private sector, with only six years, what, pray tell, are you waiting on?

  • Douglas Self

     What you’re referring to is the long-standing rule that railroads had to employ a “fireman” long after the conversion to diesel locomotives.  It was an  FDR gift to the railroad unions.
    I agree that often there is likewise waste in the Federal Government.  We Federal employees, who have to compete for promotions or even to keep our jobs in even of RIF, like anyone else, likewise resent the “deadwood”.

  • Douglas Self

     That’s the hell of it.  The idiots that constitute her district in “Baghdad by the Bay” just think she’s the cat’s meow.  They WANT her liberal lunacy.
    If there were some way to keep a state, or group of states, or congressional districts therein from living at the expense of others, a great deal of that nonsense would disappear.

  • Douglas Self

     The shutdown will cease next week when the 800K federal employees furloughed will be eligible for unemployment benefits.

  • Douglas Self

     As much as I agree with Glenn in politics and religion, he messed this one up.  Most of the Federal workforce are hard-working professionals (including a somewhat disproportionate amount of LDS) who serve with diligence.
    The issue of “essential” and what Uncle Sam should be doing has to be decided through the political process.  It’s ugly and unappetizing, much like the production of sausage or chicken nuggets.  But consider the alternative…or call on the equivalent of Palpatine for a “more safe and secure society”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo4cFViNLes

  • Douglas Self

     Ever heard of “Posse Comitatus”, Dorothy?  There’s a REASON we don’t get the military involved in domestic law enforcement.  Of course, if you feel, as I do, that we don’t need our military the size that it is or that we have it deployed in over a hundred nations, then ELECT those to Congress that feel likewise!  That’s how a republic works!

  • Douglas Self

     June, we “Federales” KNOW whom we work for.  WE pay taxes as well, and are likewise outraged at waste and inefficiency.

  • Douglas Self

     “Even if we have to rig the election”.  Hence why your ilk must be defeated in the political process.  To hell with the rule of law if you libs don’t get your way.  Go take your self-serving attitude to Russia (whom Putin has practically saved from their own brand of idiocy though he’s an utter SOB) and see how far you get.
    The chief difference between liberals and conservative-libertarians is that the latter respect the law, starting with the Constitution.  Liberals live according to self-serving mob rule and their ability to manipulate it.

  • Douglas Self

     Pamela, your sons are MEN and are old enough to make their way.  If you want to ensure their coverage, you and they are perfectly able to figure out a solution.  Demanding that your employer (RU a fellow “Federale”, your post is ambiguous) cover them in excess of the laws of your state (which has been the forum to decide insurance issues per the McCarran Act of 1945) per Presidential fiat is morally wrong and likely a breach of Presidential powers per Article II of the US Constution, but who has the means and the courage to stand up to our sad equivalent of the late Jean-Bedel Boukassa of Republique Centrafricaine?

  • Douglas Self

     And calamity and pestilence will befall us all.  Nikki, grow up and figure a way to solve your problems instead of acting like the Gov’t owes your husband, via contracting with his employer, a job.  I’m on the street right now myself but my rent, alimony, and seventh-grade daughter’s needs still go on.  When I took Federal employment some 29 years ago, there was no explicit promise of the proverbial “rose garden”.  This is part and parcel of either being employed or doing business with Uncle Sam.  Deal with it.

  • Douglas Self

     And calamity and pestilence will befall us all.  Nikki, grow up and figure a way to solve your problems instead of acting like the Gov’t owes your husband, via contracting with his employer, a job.  I’m on the street right now myself but my rent, alimony, and seventh-grade daughter’s needs still go on.  When I took Federal employment some 29 years ago, there was no explicit promise of the proverbial “rose garden”.  This is part and parcel of either being employed or doing business with Uncle Sam.  Deal with it.

  • Douglas Self

     I hope no one.  If that’s your perception of Gov’t employees, be assured that it’s inaccurate.  My apologies for whoever gave you THAT impression.

  • Douglas Self

     I hope no one.  If that’s your perception of Gov’t employees, be assured that it’s inaccurate.  My apologies for whoever gave you THAT impression.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000720862519 Victor Huntley

    As I have said before ” Democrat Ends in Rat – Republican Ends in I CAN – It’s Time for ALL THE RATS TO LEAVE Like Barney Frank to Private Practice & Chris Dodd to Start Being an ACTOR – Because they were the main Reasons for our Money Issues

  • Anonymous

    THEY probably call it ”priority,” tamer.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for your service, C/B.  Since I’m married to a WWII vet, I try
    to give a salute to those who, also, served.  Especially, Army, because
    he was drafted into it in ’43.

  • Anonymous

    Flagged.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.malorzo Mary Malorzo

    Those who are also considered non-esstential employees are 92% of those who collect the revenue for the government to run, the IRS.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Gadamer too

    Glenn Beck is nonessential, except for the comics who fiercely mock him.

  • Jared Heath

    I think you misunderstand “non-essential.” Essential personnel are those that must keep basic security functions going, but that doesn’t mean the other functions aren’t required, only that the essential functions can’t lapse at all, or else someone may die or security will be compromised. And these “essential personnel” must cover many other functions, but can’t do that forever.  That’s like saying, “Let’s ALWAYS surge in Afghanistan.”  I’m all about smaller gov’t, but this point just loses that message.

  • Jared Heath

    Rachel,

  • Anonymous

    if they are not essentials, they should be part time workers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cholette.mayer Cholette Ely Mayer

    Glenn let me tell you what happened to me last night. I live in Boulder City, NV, next to Harry Reeds LAKE MEADE. There is a road that goes around lake meade from boulder city to Henderson to north las vegas and then to overton, nv. At each entry point there is a GUARD SHACK that is manned approx. 8 am to 6 pm everyday except in the winter when it is slow, it may open weekend or a coupe of days a week, but it is ALWAYS OPEN when nobody mans the shacks. I pay an annual fee to take that road  everyday to work, I’m a vet n work at Nellis AFB, well the park rangers put up barracades  to KEEP US AMERICAN OUT, the first night I drove around no problem, 2nd night they had the park rangers out there stopping people, telling the they can’t use the road, it’s a road that doesn’t connect to any park facilities, wasting this rangers time when he could be patrolling the lake road. WAY TO GO HARRY, and they’re going to run the health care. GOD HELP US AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/cholette.mayer Cholette Ely Mayer

    O, I forgot the Base commissaries are closed so all of the food in the store will go bad, fruits etc., so who is wasting money now HARRY. I’m sorry America for not working hard enough to get rid of HARRY last time, but LOOK OUT HARRY THIS IS YOUR LAST TERM AS .A NV SENATOR.

  • Anonymous

    Representatives staff and Senator’s staff should all get furloughed…Representatives and Senators should not get paid….and I’d like to fire Glenn Beck too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dykelc Dylan Kelly

    Actually, Wikipedia is a pretty great source of information.  When it comes to something like a simple list of serial killers, you can be confident the accuracy is pretty high.  That isn’t really the point though.  Are you disputing the fact that serial killers exist and are locked up in jail?

    I didn’t see you make any actual reply to the content of my comment, besides calling me dumb, so I guess you concede my point?

  • greywolfrs

    Again, for the perpetually dumb, wikipedia can be edited by ANYONE, therefore is NOT a reliable source. You can believe someone is conceding, but that is an assumption. Anyone who has graduated the third grade knows that assumption is the mother of ALL fuck-ups. I see you have not learned that. By the way, using a credible site for your “list.” goes a lot further. Nevermind that though, carry on, dunce.

  • Anonymous

    if i had my own business  and if i had people who didn’t work very much i would fire them.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Gadamer too
  • Name

    Glenn’s mentality here is obviously directed towards the federal budget. I get it. However, what he (and most conservatives) miss is that were it not for “non-essenstial” government employees, this economy would collapse over night. The tax rates we’ve had in place since Reagan do nothing to reward employers for actually EMPLOYING. (Do the math – employees are 100% tax deductible business expenses – we’re rewarding “employers” for NOT employing!) Were we actually EMPLOYING Americans in the private sector, government spending would naturally decrease. The irony of “trickle-down-economics” is that significant government spending is required to subsidize it, and if we’re not paying for it, we’re running up debt. Look at the last 30 years. Our debt has increased 16 fold since Reagan started cutting tax RATES (rates and tax burden are NOT the same thing). Higher rates mean that deductible expenses are more important. Low rates mean that deductible expenses are less valuable. Labor is a deductible expense which reduces tax burden. For the last 30 years, we’ve been subsidizing (on a credit card) the transfer of wealth out of the working class/consumer base that actually creates jobs to those who simply hoard that wealth (or “play” Wall Street roullette with it, creating and bursting bubbles that keep the economy unpredictable).

  • Name

    The private sector has been heading to “heck” for years. It’s done it to its own self, and government has enabled it by giving the top dogs what they asked for 30 years ago: low tax rates. Before low tax rates, our debt was 1/17th of what it is now, and manufacturing jobs in the US peaked just before Reagan won election. Since low tax rates were put in place, we’ve seen our manufacturing jobs go overseas, and less and less wealth every year has gone to the consumer base. If you do the math, it makes a lot of sense. The irony of supply side economics (Reaganomics) is that it requires significant government subsidy to sustain it. And since we’re not paying for it, well….

  • Name

    The private sector is not going to grow. The tax structure provides no incentive to do so. Too much money is being made by NOT growing the private sector – by implementing austerity in the workforce. This doesn’t just increase the bottom line, it eliminates the consumer base that buys the products — it eliminates DEMAND from the supply and demand of the free market.