Rep. Louie Gohmert: Obama administration “holding a gun to America’s head” with government shutdown

On radio this morning, Glenn interviewed one of the congressmen who is fighting the good fight in D.C., Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX). Between the shutdown, the looming debt ceiling debate, and the battle for the soul of the GOP, Glenn and Rep. Gohmert had a lot to talk about.

Rep. Gohmert was at the World War II memorial at the time of the interview, but he explained that he had heard a deal was nearly reached that would involve some positive changes to Obamacare. The downside? It would ensure Obamacare is fully implemented for good.

“I understand that somebody just tweeted out that the Republicans think they have a deal. And I had heard that they were talking about just going ahead and giving up on 99.99% of Obamacare, so it would work for a while,” Rep. Gohmert said. “And things like, well, you know, changing part-time from 30 hours to closer to 40; maybe making the businesses that had to comply from 50 [employees] to 100. Basically, you know, implementing Obamacare for good. And that way, we can say we got something for Obamacare even though it will insure that it allows the total government control of everybody’s life like they were wanting to do.”

When it comes to the debt ceiling, the deal floating around would seemingly give the President and the Democrats just about everything they were looking for.

“And then, you know, a debt ceiling extension – basically doing what the President wanted, giving them everything he wanted and letting him throw us a few crumbs,” he continued. “When actually Obamacare, as you talked about, is so devastating to this country. It gives the federal government so much control over every individual life that just being tossed a few crumbs so that they can still continue with the takeover is just not a good idea. And it sounds like that’s the kind of thing being talked about… It’s not a good idea.”

Glenn explained to Rep. Gohmert the situation he has been laying out on radio and TV for a few weeks now. Glenn sees either a split or rebranding of the Republican Party that would separate the more progressive establishment from the more conservative base.

“Well, I hope this is not what’s going to happen. I hope those were only things that were being talked about and not part of this ‘wonderful’ deal to completely cave for the President. I hope that’s not what we’re going to hear. We didn’t want the government shutdown,” Rep. Gohmert explained. “The President stood there and he said, ‘You are not going to use a gun.’ Are you kidding? And I heard Carney say yesterday, ‘We’re not going to allow the Republican Congress to force us to pay them to do their job.’ He’s got it exactly backwards. They are holding a gun to America’s head and saying, ‘Republicans: Give us all the money in the Treasury plus more than our children can ever pay for. And if you don’t, we’re going to burn down the country. We’re going to make it hard on veterans. We’re going to make it hard on the disabled, people with cancer. We’re going to make the country miserable until you give us all the money.’”

Congress’ approval rating has hit a record low 5% because Americans are simply fed up with the Washington D.C. political games being waged by the right and left. But, as Rep. Gohmert explained, while Americans will never be completely satisfied with Congress, if Congress stepped up and did what was right instead of what was politically expedient, they would gain some respect.

“When John Adams was president, people didn’t like Congress. But the big indicator, and you said it, the President has been falling everyday. And some of our folks have been grabbing me and saying, ‘Oh, no. America doesn’t like us.’ Well, guess what? They never liked us. Stand up and do what’s right,” Rep. Gohmert said. “And I’ve been so proud of our Party for standing up, and standing for what’s right. And so, it’s not too late. We haven’t lost yet.”

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  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    This current mess is upon the hands and head of Obama and Reid for their refusal to relent and make concessions to the Republicans on anything. 

    Even the current talks are not of any real value, they are only to buy desperate coverage for the flagging numbers of the left and Obama. Boehner has caved already on all aspects of the ACA, as expected, and is caving again to the whims and wishes of the left.

    No one save for the leftist fanatics wants Obamacare, and its a massive failure across the board. We are on the cusp of a massive win and once again we are seeing Boehner taking defeat from the jaws of victory.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    The only acceptable changes to Obamacare are either complete defunding or complete repeal, on the rest there is to be no compromise. No one wants it save for the desperate and fanatical leftists.

  • Anonymous

    Louie Ghoulmert is like the evil incarnation of an Ernest movie. He’s a horrible and ignorant man, and it is very telling that Glenn Beck wants to get his mouth all over Ghoulmert’s cock and balls 

  • Anonymous

     Yeah, and even they don’t want it for themselves but want to be exempt.  That says al we need to know about obamascam.

  • Anonymous

     Yeah, and even they don’t want it for themselves but want to be exempt.  That says al we need to know about obamascam.

  • Anonymous

     do you have a latent homosexual issue?

  • Anonymous

    You need to keep in mind that Obama has a infant mind set, When he shut down the government because he could not have his way it reminded me of a infant having a fit because the mother refused to give him the tit

  • http://thefriendcenter.com/ Average Joe.

    Mentally he’s a little child .

  • Anonymous

    Getting around today Moob with your Ad Hominem attacks and dreams of abuse by man parts. A truly sick individual you are.

  • Anonymous

    Would you recommend gagging on a dick tip, as you prefer?

  • Bonnie Somer

    please let us be clear the tax money taken in is 250 billion they can pay the interest on the debt and end this but LEW, OBAMA AND REID WANTED TOTAL CAVE IN BY THE GOP AND MCCONNELL AND BOEHNER GAVE IT THEY R WORTHLESS THIS IS Y WE VOTE NOW THE PRES IS GIVEN MORE MONEY TO SPEND AND TAX THIS IS WHERE WE THE PEOPLE MUST I SAY NOW MARCH ON DC AND NOT RELENT TIL THIS MAN IS IMPEACHED THIS IS NO DEAL BESIDES THE GOP HAD THE WINNING HAND THEY CONTROL THE MONEY 

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFGELoC4zc Sam Fisher

    Not only holding it to our heads but playing Russian roulette with our lives. Another thought you know living Russia sucks when the they make a game out of suicide but yet Obama and the left wants us to believe Marxism is a good thing.

  • Anonymous

    Why are you here posting?  Seriously, WHY?!

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a thought, let’s suspend all pay for ALL of Congress and the President himself until Obamacare ceases to exist.  Put that bill up Mr. Boehner!  Do you have the balls for it?

  • Anonymous

    The message is out there.  There is so much plain evidence of this President’s failures.  You have to be an idiot to miss it.  A country full of spineless losers has elected a Congress full of spineless losers.  I can’t even believe that intelligent people continue to defend this Administration!  It’s creepy!  

  • Anonymous

    Rep. Loubie Goobert is a professional airhead who needs to go back to his woods before he hurts himself. 

    Goobert?  Congress–remember it? The legislative body you’re in?–holds the purse strings and hence it is impossible for Obama to be holding the nation hostage.  Rather it is your terrorist Tea Party / Al Qaeda know-nothings who are working in concert with Ayman Al Zawahiri’s call to “bleed America financially”. 

    Current Tee Tee Party “bleed America financially” totals?  $15.5 billion dollars.  Mission accomplished! 

    Now, Loubie Goobert, put on your suicide vest and “git ‘er done” in the middle of the National Mall, you terrorist. 

  • Anonymous

    I wish I could take credit for the following quote, which I read on a post from another web site: 

     “Teabaggers are not a
    political party, they are the Koch’s squadron of flying monkeys. And the media,
    always entranced by shiny new objects, score off the pretense that this
    collection of extremist zillionaires and everyday toothless racists is a
    co-equal branch of government. 
     

    It doesn’t help that media refer to them as
    “The Tea Party,” caps and all.  

     

    There is no such thing as “The Tea
    Party.” At best, they are “a cult of dangerous right wing extremists
    who go by the name ‘tea party.’” 

  • Anonymous

     In reality, the plutocrats who funded the Tea Party–mainly the Koch brothers and Big Tobacco–were in fear because the Republican Party was losing its base because all the Republican Party ever does is defend the rich and denigrate the poor, and thus, many people of modest means found a home with the Democratic Party. 

    Astroturfing a false grassroots movement that is divisive and extremist excited the Republican base for awhile.  But now the Tea Party is less admired than the lowly cockroach. 

    Who clipped Loubie Goobert’s antennae? 

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

     Bonnie–The debt isn’t the most pressing problem we have right now.  It’s not as if the government’s credit card is down to nothing.  The US government sells Treasury bonds, essentially selling debt, and banks, especially our own, snap them up because they are the most trustworthy credit in the entire world.  There are approximately 16 trillion bonds out there, and if those crashed, the economy would go with it.  Not just ours, but the entire world’s economy. 

    It’s the list of demands included in the House’s version of the CR that is problematic and the reason the White House will not negotiate.  The repeal or delay of the ACA, the repeal of Dodd-Frank (this is an important law that helps us regulate the financial sector a little more), the shutdown of the Consumer Financial Protection Board (this has helped American citizens more than the right will allow you to know), the elimination of $40 billion in SNAP funds in the middle of a recession, the repeal of numerous block grants to states that help working women with daycare, feed impoverished children with Head Start, and aid shut-ins via Meals on Wheels, an end to all government sponsorship of women’s preventative healthcare services, and more. 

    That’s why the Democrats find the CR loaded with BS. 

    Impeach the President?  What would that accomplish?  You seem to want even more terrorism. 

  • Anonymous

     More moderation-minded Republicans are waking-up to the fact the party, handmaiden of the conservative movement, is becoming more and more dysfunctional and is even becoming an obstruction to good government. 

    The Tea Party claims to be all about the Constitution, but ignore how important compromise is to a flexible democratic republic. 

    What we’ve ended-up is perpetual deadlock.  Congress has passed no bills in five years, its approval rating is now at five percent, and more people are jumping ship because they simply do not want managed democracy or corporatism. 

    The entire “free market” biz, in which business is somehow above the law, is a con job.  Small businesses are struggling because the larger fish put them out of business, something that has nothing to do with government at all. 

  • Anonymous

    And the ACA helps small businesses as well, although few people are aware of this.

  • Debbie

     Impeach Obama!!

  • Debbie

    Impeach Obama

  • Anonymous

    Your oral fixation is making you look like such a fool. I can’t imagine how your heart got so full of hate but I pray God’s grace on you. Jesus can set you free from the demons that torment you if only you could find the courage to seek Him while you have the chance. His blood is the only thing that can cleanse you from your unrighteousness. God grant you repentance.

  • Anonymous

    I heard a stat that if you taxed the top 1% completely broke, it would fund the government for 8 1/2 days.  Who do you come after to fund the Obama Regime’s empty promises on day 9?

  • Anonymous

    People don’t defecate in public squares at Tea Party rallies, as their Leftist equal counterpart OWS demonstrators do.  Full implementation of Obamacare means you and I both will live in a country with a depleted standard of health care and nowhere to work.  You’re probably going to get the Communist paradise you’re hoping for marbury, but everyone suffers.  Keep blaming hard working entrepreneurs for your problems.  I hope it satisfies you once they are just as broke as the rest of us.  

  • Anonymous

    DUHHHHH. You didn’t mind the last guy, who took a wet dump in his pants in front of a classroom of kids during the nation’s darkest hour, but God forbid we have a black President

  • Anonymous

    Let me quote you, “The Tea Party claims to be all about the Constitution, but ignore how important compromise is to a flexible democratic republic.”  What I’m getting from you is, you think the Tea Party should be more flexible with its interpretation of the CONSTITUTION.  Believe me, they love and cling to that document.  Your beef really isn’t with the Tea Party.  It isn’t with the Koch brothers, or plutocrats.  Your beef is with the Constitution.  You see, the Constitution makes it plain how ridiculous your bigotry and hatred of Conservative ideology is.  

  • Anonymous

    Yes faceshaker.  More and more and more and more government programs.  That’s what you want huh?  But you need someone else’s money to get them.  How is allowing funding for things like the NIH unreasonable?  The President and Harry Reid are not respectful of their political opponents, or the American people.  These guys are not on your side dude.

  • Watch it

    Some people have pretty bizarre ideas about the TEA Party. This nonsense about the Koch brothers being their leader, about them being “dangerous right wing extremists” LMAO, when what they want is smaller less intrusive government, lower taxes etc. Since when has common sense and responsible behavior been considered “dangerous right wing extremists” ?? Only in the fevered brains of the leftwing indoctrinated and their mentors.

  • Watch it

     You swallowed the leftist crap about the Koch bros funding the Tea Party too? LMAO!

  • Anonymous

    The Obama Regime is all about hatred of Christians, Israel, Republicans, white men, white people in general, rich people, and anyone who questions them.  They’ve deemed anyone in these categories as people not deserving of respect.  It’s no different from Hitler screaming about Jewish Bolshevism in the 1930s.

  • Anonymous

    Louie, isn’t this the guy who keeps putting his foot in his mouth?

  • Watch it

    They are a bunch of childish liberal/progressive reactionaries.

  • linda barnett

    Mr. Gohmert, the real patriots of the world are behind you. I am really sorry you had to be treated so rudely by that witch on fox news. That is exactly why we need THE BLAZE. Luckily it was not my tv set to break.

  • Anonymous

    your last two visits to the ER involved getting a cucumber and a coke bottle lodged too high in your rectum. Would Obamacare even cover that?

  • Anonymous

    Obama’s predecessor, Wet Fart Bush, shat a pound and a half of diarrhea into his taxpayer financed suitpants in front of a classroom of kids during the nation’s darkest hour, then lied the US into a war with Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. So shut the fuck up.

  • Guest

     What covered it for you last few times?

  • Guest

     Do you have substantiation for these claims? Prove it.

  • Guest

    .

  • Guest

     half black

  • Guest

     Why would you want to take credit for such garbage? Just to perpetuate the image you project of intolerance, misrepresentation and superiority?

  • Guest

    .

  • Guest

     It helps them stay small, as they can’t afford to grow with the high costs of health insurance and the mandates.
     
    I need a good laugh tonight, so please entertain us with your rendition of why or how you think that the ACA helps small businesses.

  • Guest

    Dodd-Frank puts it’s boot on the necks of the little banks/financial institutions.
     
     Dodd-Frank allows the federal government to confiscate bank deposits in an unlimited “bail-in” for banks “too big to fail” should they have a solvency problem. The funds are simply taken from OUR bank accounts and applied to a bank’s recapitalization in lieu of government bailouts.
     
    The practice essentially is a transfer from a personal savings account to the bank’s operating account, without the customers’ permission or even any notice. 

    The example set in Cyprus when the island nation confronted its financial crisis now is spreading to such other countries as Italy, Poland, New Zealand and now Canada.

  • Thomas Aquinas

    If one claims that government should reduce discontent due to envy, one will also claim that the state must reduce the liberty which leads to unequal incomes and associated envy.

  • ken.

    it’s time for us to restore the principle of the government fearing we the people because right now they don’t.

  • Anonymous

    And if I don’t shut up??  You have demonstrated that you are one of the spineless losers.  You can’t just type to someone to shut up and expect them to actually do it.  It actually makes me want to say more things that will bother you until your blood pressure skyrockets and an artery pops getting all over everything in your mother’s basement.  Peace out.

  • Anonymous

    Who makes such a claim, Thomas?

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  • Anonymous

    it will never happen idiot

  • Anonymous

    why a ling piece of shit….Idiot right-wing looser….you and beck and fuck each other in the mouth.

  • Anonymous

    Thank God Obama is in charge….Hey beck suck my black cock bitch.

  • Anonymous

    AS for the tea-nut Obama is treating you guy like his bitch how does it feel…I bet you really enjoy getting it up the ass. 

  • Anonymous

    Louie Gohmart, have you ever listened to this guy, I tyhink he’s got a screw loose??

  • Anonymous

    in your head only ..

  • Anonymous

    OMG where the hell do these lunatics come from?????

  • Anonymous

    for what reason, I find it really hillarous after Gw’s reign w/all the illegal & lies that went on & we never heard a word form idiots like you, but now, we have a President that wants to stand up for citizens rights

  • Anonymous

    if that is true what did you call the system before the ACA?? that was one the had depleted healthcare to only the upper class, apparently it didn’t bother you that they cut off the people that need the ins the most, cancer patients, heart, any pre exisiting conditions, and the fact that they upped your cost every yr 20 to 27%?? Are you just stupid in that you co tow to the republicans regardless of right & wrong?? 

  • Anonymous

    you just keep smoken that weed brother! republicans c/have cared less about deficiets or budgets when in office, they had a surplus & still brought this country to it’s knees, NOW  we s/believe they want smaller government? Government grew large under their watch, now oh ya they want to reform social secutity & medicare, RIGHT! get rid of it is what they’ve always wanted, funny thing tho, I don’t hear one politician giving up their taxpayer healthcare, lifetime pensions or any other subsidies or entitlements THEY feel their entitled to, BUT they want yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

  • Anonymous

    Bert, Bert, Bert… “hatred of Christians, Israel…Hitler and Jewish Bolshevism”?   There’s so much there that is shamefully ignorant, malign and invidious.   You really should know better.  But let’s just deal with the Hitler comparison (always the 3rd rail of political accusations) and Israel.

    In your view, how do we explain the fact that Jews overwhelmingly voted for Obama?  Would you say Jews are a group of people who don’t understand what’s in their own best interest?  Do you know things about Obama and his admin that the Jewish community doesn’t?

    If I were a white, Jewish man who supports Israel and voted for Obama twice (which describes the great majority of Jewish men), what would you say to convince me that I don’t know what I’m doing?

  • greywolfrs

    That would be you…

  • greywolfrs

    What “citizen’s rights?” Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Those are the only thing you have a right to. By the way, Obamao ordered a drone strike on two people who held US citizenship. In other words, he ordered the MURDER of two Americans, that is MORE than enough to impeach on. Dipshit.

  • greywolfrs

    More B S propaganda that you are all to happy to forward. Aren’t you late for a game of butt darts with your life partner, vicki tiffany the coward?

  • greywolfrs

    B S, there was NEVER a surplus and it was “projected.” Besides that, with the debt the existed before that “projected surplus,” it would have used to drop the debt.

    SSI, medicaid and medicare should never have come to be. They far outside the powers enumerated to the Federal Government, try reading the Constituion some time. The Federal government, whether it’s employees or laws they make for the people, has NO right to be doing any of those things. They do not owe you a retirement account (because you are too stupid to save money on your own) or medical care. In the end, you claim those people at the top feel entitled to theirs and your solution is to give what they have to everybody. The problem is both go against the Constitution and it would be easier to get rid of theirs, then to give it to everyone. It would cost a whole lot less also. Keep playing the spoiled brat that feels they are entitled also, that’s really showing those people in DC. Dipshit.

  • greywolfrs

    Wrong, the problem is the Federal government is not following the Constitution. How did we get to this point, I wonder…oh yeah, COMPROMISE! Compromising is what got us into 17 trillion dollars of debt and counting. Don’t let that get in your way though.

  • Anonymous

     Bert30–Sorry you hate compromise so much.  When conflicting parties confront one another, one way to avoid further conflict is to come to an agreement.  The Constitution is based on agreement: Both sides decide to give up contested items to meet in the middle. 

    The Constitution isn’t a rulebook.  It’s a document that details how our government is constituted.  Compromise and judicial interpretation are arguably why our nation has lasted so long, mainly because they provide flexibility.  The Soviet Union was inflexible and it collapsed.  Better to bend with the winds of change than to lose a branch. 

  • Anonymous

    Because I find the image of Tea Partiers
    as the Flying Monkeys of Oz so appropriate and the observation that the media
    treats them with undue respect so true. 
    I wouldn’t include “toothless racists”, but this is a group that
    deserves its fair share of derision for the damage it’s doing to our country.  The TP represents the country’s latest embrace
    of Know-Nothing politics – sanctimoniously disguised as patriotism, of course  - and the related destabilizing, secessionist
    sentiments that have been the underbelly of American politics beginning with
    John C. Calhoun. I admire the above description because it cleverly captures
    that essential truth with creative imagery and humor. 

    And, btw, if you’re the same Guest who
    likes to laugh at real consequences of economic policy, you’ll get a big kick
    out of the following:  the ACA allows
    potential entrepreneurs to open a new business without the risk of losing
    health insurance; it gives small businesses access to the lower healthcare
    costs of larger businesses; it provides tax benefits for small businesses to
    provide insurance; for businesses with 50 or fewer employees (96% of small
    businesses, who are not subject to the mandate, btw), it provides access to
    affordable health insurance for owners and employees. 

    America has a low rate of entrepreneurship relative to other
    industrialized countries, and we also rank low in upward mobility, largely
    because our health insurance system.   
    The ACA will improve this, making American business more competitive.

  • Anonymous

    I said that the Left has a hatred of Israel. I did not say that the Left has a hatred of Jews. A large contingent of those on the Left who hate ISRAEL are the voting bloc to which you speak of, JEWS who voted for Obama, twice. Now that I’ve explained what I meant (which you should have been smart enough to pick up on the first time around), that being the distinction between the State of Israel circa 1948′s independence and Jews in general, your second paragraph is meaningless. If you were a white, Jewish man who supported Israel and voted for Obama, I would not ever attempt to convince you of who to vote for. I would mind my own business on that one. In no way did I even imply that it was in any way my business what any Jewish person does with their vote, ever. I’m not even sure how you arrived at that conclusion other than that you have nothing but straw man analytical skills. Please refrain from misrepresenting me. That aside, I have no problem with political discourse with you. Have a good day.

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t a matter of “if that is true,” it’s a matter of actually being true.  I know right from wrong and I have voted for Democrats in the past.  I’m very politcally conscious, and the people who read my posts here regularly would tell you that.  I don’t tow a party line, I just tout sound logic.   
    My health insurance premiums are shooting through the roof and I don’t make a lot of money.  I actually have not had one single solitary friend, relative, coworker, or acquaintance tell me that their health insurance premiums have gone down in the past year or so.  You can either grasp the following simple truth or you can continue to live in denial for all I care:  a piece of legislation named the Affordable Care Act will directly result in making health insurance completely unaffordable for just about everybody.  THAT’s when you’ll see only the upper class getting adequate health care.  You yearn for what you fear Leftist one.  

  • Anonymous

    It was the GOP, holding the GUN to the American people’s head…screw Glen and his idiot follower.

  • Anonymous

    Bert, I appreciate your honest response. I don’t see that your answers constitute a coherent argument, however, so I also appreciate your willingness to continue the dialogue.
    First, re the issue of how you would address Jewish supporters of Obama, you misunderstand. That was simply a hypothetical for academic purposes; it was not a conclusion or a statement about you, clearly.
    But here’s what I want you tell me. You say the Left hates Israel but doesn’t hate Jews. You also seem to say that a large group of Jews falls into that group, i.e. they hate Israel. Is that right? Since Jews vote overwhelmingly for the Left, are you making the claim that most Jews hate Israel? Or are you saying that some do and some don’t but the Left as a whole, of which the Jews are only a part, hates Israel?

    And, if you have time, what about the Hitler comparison? I think that needs some explaining.

  • Anonymous

    People who know me (unlike you) know that I don’t open my mouth UNLESS I have a coherent argument. I’ve already explained myself enough. You are all over the map trying to make me feel as though I’m a fool. You’ve failed to accomplish that. I’ve watched you post and you constantly equate being a Leftist as a prerequisite for being intelligent. It’s arrogant.

  • Anonymous

    About the Hitler comparison. He blamed the Jews for EVERYthing. You Leftists seem to think that everyone who votes Republican should be blamed for every thing that has gone wrong. Once Obama shores up his dictatorship, he will start liquidating all of the people you hate, like me for instance. Pick up a history book, you could use some knowledge.

  • Watch it

    I’m not your brother and I don’t smoke weed. You are ignorant about who brought this country to it’s knees – I’ll give you a clue – he has been POTUS for the past 5 yrs. Sure Bush spent on the Iraq war, but Obama continued it and ramped it up in Afghanistan. The Clinton surplus myth was an accounting gimmick he used whereby he took money from Social Security to cover his debts before he left office. The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It was $10.626 trillion on President Bush’s last day in office. Obama in just 5 yrs has far exceeded Bush’s increase. Our national debt stands now at almost 17 trillion.

  • Guest

    In your dreams. You won’t see any small business grow under the Obamacare fiasco because they don’t normally provide health insurance as they can’t afford to. The mandates will make them dump money into health insurance that they can’t afford to lose, regardless of the subsidies they may get from the government tax and spend bucket. These subsidies will not cover the entire cost. The ACA will not improve anything for small business, it is already making problems in that arena and it isn’t even in full swing yet.

    Your mischaracterization of the Tea Party is undeserved and stems from ignorance, but no surprise, coming from someone like you, with your superior attitude and utopian views that embrace socialism. You should be thanking the Tea Party for bringing to the fore and keeping attention on the fiscal irresponsibility of the government: the over sized and ever growing central government, it’s intrusiveness into our lives, it’s irresponsible tax and spend behavior, it’s (certain people’s) anti-Consitutional behavior and usurpation of power just to mention a few. What you declare as an essential truth is leftist hogwash used to denigrate something that can’t be honestly countered, that you don’t understand.

  • Anonymous

    OK, Bert, maybe you’ll be kind enough to clarify one key issue for me: Do you sincerely believe President Obama plans to liquidate people he hates? If so, what makes you think this, e.g. rather than referring to historical examples, what evidence do you find about President Obama that makes you believe this?

  • Anonymous

    No dreams, just predictions, as are yours. But,
    unlike you, I can’t indulge in foolish certitude. Liberals recognize the complex ramifications of changes to public policy as well as the difference between past, present and future. You folks on the Right have no use for such humility, caution or pragmatism, even when facing exigent reality; you already know the answers. Talk about arrogance.

    The ACA should be a huge improvement over our current, dysfunctional system, but naturally, we can’t be certain of future outcomes. Naturally, I say, and yet, the Right, unnaturally, believes it knows the future! Even when it has proven so horribly wrong about the past. Utopian, you say? That’s the mythology of the Right. It’s impossible to productively debate public policy with people who cling to a Manichean, win-at-all-costs view of politics. Successful public policy in a heterogeneous democracy is all about empiricism, compromise and possibilities. The Right, however, relies on force and dogma, so it inevitably fails when it attempts to govern. Do you ever wonder why military and fundamentalist religious organizations slant Right, while academics and journalists slant Left? Or why higher education correlates with liberal voting patterns? Bet you don’t.

    Yes, the TP has changed the conversation; they’ve debased it. Under Obama, growth in government spending has been the lowest in decades, tax/spend behavior has become more accountable and more efficient (as it did under Clinton) and the U.S.remains a relatively low-tax country. Most of our fiscal troubles remain the result of the unsound, ideologically-driven public policies initiated under Bush and his Right-wing run-amok Congress, but only those not blinded or confused by partisanship are well aware of this. That this same disproven dogma continues to divide and drag down our country is largely attributable to the actions of the TP, which serves as a revanchist derriere-guard, waging war (successfully, alas) against reasonable discourse, obstructing any policies that might ameliorate our condition. The Debt Ceiling/Shutdown was merely the latest example. Fiscal responsibility? The TP and the GOP just threw a pointless, childish tantrum that cost our country over $24 billion. America continues to pay the price for the TP’s sheer stupidity.

  • Guest

    Foolish certitude? Liberals blah blah blah – you bought the hype. And you accuse others of arrogance? Go away, you have nothing to contribute of any use.