FAIL: Only 51,000 people have filled out Obamacare applications

On radio this morning, Glenn cited a MailOnline’s exclusive report that confirmed Obamacare’s dismal signup rate. According to MailOnline, Obamacare’s main signup engine, Healthcare.gov, attracted just 6,200 signups on its error-laden launch day and 51,000 new applications after the first week.

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“How many people have filed, in the first week, an application? Remember, it takes 7 million people in this system to keep it afloat,” Glenn said. “51,000. 51,000. This according to the Daily Mail.”

“Yeah, because no American publication would never carry this,” Pat added. “Nobody was apparently interested in the story in the United States.”

The numbers are bleak, no matter how you spin them. But they are actually even worse when you consider what the 51,000 number actually represents.

“You can’t go online and find out how much you can save,” Glenn said. “Instead, you have to go on and fill out everything. You have to give them health history. You have to give them all the information: Social Security Number, everything else. And then once you fill out that application, then it will say, this is what you can get and here’s what it’s going to cost.”

Glenn likened the situation to going to a car dealership for a test drive and being told you can’t know any information about the cost of the car until you provide all of your credit information and fill out an application.

“That’s insane. Nobody would ever do business that way. That’s insane,” Glenn said. “And it is also one of the reasons why they actually have higher numbers than have signed up. Because what they’re saying is: The number of people that have filled out applications. And when you say you ‘filled out applications,’ you just assume that that means… they want it, you know… No, they don’t [to sign up]. They just want to see what price it is, but they have to fill out an application to find out what price it is.”

Think of this: Of the 40 million uninsured Americans, just 51,000 people completed the Obamacare application in the first week of rollout. Meanwhile, the Congressional Budget Office says Obamacare needs at least 7 million customers to stay afloat financially.

“And that’s not the number of enrolled. The number of enrolled federally, that enrolled through the federal program: 5,000 enrolled. The number through the state programs was 25,000,” Pat explained. “So 30,000 people so far up to this point have enrolled… [This is a] total and complete disaster because you know the first week or the first two weeks of a rollout are your most important.”

Stu quickly pointed out, however, that the reason people are forced to fill out an application to access the cost of the new healthcare plans is because, without the government subsidies, the price of healthcare skyrockets under Obamacare. The only way to calculate the applicable subsidies is to know the personal information that is required on the application. So this ridiculous system is just another way for the Administration to shield the real cost of Obamacare from the American people.

“And the reason, they talk about in Forbes, is if you went to the website without giving them information, you would see an unsubsidized price for that policy. So you would see a policy that would show the true cost to the American people of what each policy is,” Stu said “If you go there after you’ve given the information, the price looks much more sensible because they’re including all the free money they’re giving you from the government. So the way they designed the program was specifically designed to hide the true cost of each one of these policies so people like us couldn’t just go to the website and make fun of all the high prices. You have to go through the entire process and that way there’s a layer there to hide the true cost from the American people.”

  • Draxx

    What is the worst part about their website is…
    Any/All Information You Post Can and Will be Used Against You In Any Court Of Law (even the ones that are hidden) For Prosecution!!! Can you say “Hello To Big Brother”…

  • Draxx

    I Agree ObummerCare is another “Titanic” that is going to go down… Hopefully before too many people are on board!

  • Anonymous

    Yes, the ObamaCare rollout was a disaster.

    And everyone would be talking about that were it not for Ted Cruz and his silly antics. Cruz and his cronies saved Obama on this one.

    Obama has been saved like this before, though more by circumstances than by the GOP/Tea Party. Remember the “Obama scandals” of a few months ago? Even the mainstream media was pounding Obama on those scandals—it was actually ABC News that broke some of the most damning evidence on the NSA scandal…
    But then the Supreme Court ruled on gay marriage, and the Trayvon Martin verdict came in, and the media went running to those stories…and the Obama scandals were forgotten.

    Anyway, back to ObamaCare: it will stumble along for some time, and when it finally collapses we will move to the single payer system that was wanted all along anyway.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    As I have mentioned to people before, if the problems with a simple web site are so insurmountable after three plus years of prep time, how can we even expect the main system of Obamacare to work?

    Anything a person can foul up, give it to the government and they can make it one hundred times worse.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    I imagine they will use the current off-shore NSA gathering of intelligence on American people (i.e. domestic terrorists some 40+ million strong) to make any violation or suspected violation of Obamacare into a case of espionage.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFGELoC4zc Sam Fisher

    By you liberal morons.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFGELoC4zc Sam Fisher

    This just in from the site where they keep the Obamacare servers. They cannot handle 51001 and this happen.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EniBqALyAEA

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFGELoC4zc Sam Fisher

    Gee even the media is turning on President temper tantrum. It is funny seeing all the rats jump ship.

  • laura

    and some of those sign ups are laden with faulty information,ha,ha,ha

  • Tim Daly

    The Daily Mail is not a new source people. They are akin to National Enquirer and Weekly World News. Their breaking stories are about UFO and people coming out of comas after 20 years.

  • Anonymous

    sounds perfect for the Glenn Beck crowd

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFGELoC4zc Sam Fisher
  • Shane Castille

    I signed up just to see the cost. It let me sign up but then kicked me out due to technical error and said I could not view plans at this time. I guess I’m part of the 51000. Interesting.

  • PaulAnn

    Oh my….this is wonderful news. Hopefully it does not upset those of us who are happy with our insurance.

  • Jordan Ball

    Not likely, as most the people that voted for this will be removed from office as a majority of Americans did not want this to begin with.

    Come back to reality please.

  • Paul Alvarez

    Knock yourselves out. I’m not interested. I hope “I” have made myself clear.

  • Anonymous

    Americans had a chance to clean out the people behind this bill in November.
    What happened?
    The GOP/Tea Party lost the presidency, the Senate, and even the popular vote for the House.

    And while polls show that a majority of Americans don’t like ObamaCare, the same polls show they don’t want it repealed either. In fact, sixteen percent of the people who don’t like Obamacare dislike it because it isn’t liberal enough.

    Now your troops are fighting it… and seeing their approval ratings plummet.

    So I should be asking YOU to come back to reality…but I won’t. I’d preferred you guys to stay as clueless as you are now, since you doing so only makes it easier for us to put a boot solidly up your ass.

  • Anonymous

    Well, you can avoid living under a single payer system merely by moving to another country.

    Not like Canada, Australia, or anywhere in Europe…all those are off limits to you since they have single payer…

    But you could go to, like, Somalia. Benin. The Congo…
    There’s lots of places, as long as you have a since of adventure.

  • Anonymous

    Naw, they aren’t THAT bad.

    But they are owned by ole’ Rupert, the same one who owns Fox News.

    Back in the 1930′s, the paper was jokingly called “The Daily Heil”, because of their strong support for Hitler in his early years, as well as supporting the “Blackshirts”, whom were British Nazi’s.

  • Anonymous

    When even CNN features segments on how poorly this website has performed and cites that 20,000 people have signed up and paid so far, it’s a good indicator of failure.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    Or just vote you incompetent liberals out.

  • Anonymous

    Only 326 people in Maryland enrolled in Obamacare during first 6 days

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/11/only-326-people-in-maryland-enrolled-in-obamacare-during-first-6-days/#ixzz2hT9ZkjYD
    Well, this is odd, for democrats claim that Obamacare project is very well taken by millions!
    So let’s take a quick pick.

    Report: A mere 51,000 people signed up on Obamacare site in first week
    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/10/report-a-mere-51000-people-signed-up-on-obamacare-site-in-first-week/#ixzz2hQWJz9mY

    Well, this is really odd, for democrats claim that Obamacare project is very well taken by millions of American individuals.
    So if is only – in reality – a very insignificant number of enrollees something is (or at least it seems that way) absolutely wrong here.
    And you know what? the number of enrollees are suppose to be really high because the liberal-democrats are trying to enlist even dead people too ;….and as we all know,…. there is a lot of dead people…for cemeteries are loaded with those,…correct on that one?
    So let’s take a quick glance at what we have so far, shall we?
    Dead people can sign up for health care in Kentucky
    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/04/dead-people-can-sign-up-for-health-care-in-kentucky/#ixzz2hASEVwTQ

  • Anonymous

    DEMOCRATS ARE SO CRAFTY (for not to say fraudulent)

    Dead people can sign up for health care in Kentucky
    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/04/dead-people-can-sign-up-for-health-care-in-kentucky/#ixzz2hASEVwTQ

    Oh!, your can bet your shoes and you will not loose them, that Team-Obama is signing up dead people…perhaps vampires,… zombies,… even aliens from outer-space,…who knows?

    Just remember that democrats did manage to register even a cat for the 2008 fraudulent elections ..so,. anything can happen from that day on…no?

    Everyone out there,…just remember the moment;
    « Who is the real Barack Obama? | Main | “Sissy, that should be in Bartlett’s” »
    October 09, 2008
    “I found a cat that was registered to vote”

    When a cat registered [presumably as a Democrat] to vote was discovered in Cleveland’s Cayahoga County a few years back, any sensible person would have realized at once it was fraud. Just ask Tiny, above in a post-catnip stupor (note flakes on fur). Cats are neither Republican nor Democrat but Independent.

    “I found a cat that was registered to vote,” Bill Sammon is telling Megyn Kelly on Fox News re Acorn (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) voter-registration fraud in Ohio back when Bill was an investigative reporter covering the Cayahoga County Board of Elections for the Cleveland Plain Dealer during a previous election:

    http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/2008/10/i-found-a-cat-t.html

    They weren’t sure whether it was a DemoCAT, fat-CAT Republican or working for Ross PURR-ot. Acorn isn’t just some left-wing group. Its a group that Barack Obama used to work for and served as an attorney for suing the state of Illinois to implement the motor-voter law.

    Now, what? – any of you out there – think the FRAUDULENT FACTIONS FOR THE OBAMA ORGANIZATION ARE WILLING TO DO ANT ANY TIME GIVEN?
    Input anyone? Opinions welcome.

  • Anonymous

    Obama can stick his dirty Law up is dirty rear

  • Dave Young

    CNN is the new NBC as MSNBC, is PROUDLY saying it’s a new channel that PROGRESSIVES have been waiting for….
    I hope CNN, NBC and MSNBC all fail like Obamacare is… Here’s hoping.

  • Dave Young

    Take Obama with you!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand the Rep’s on the issue of Odramacare, I would had found it with $1,cuz due to the sequester there isn’t any more to spend. furthermore let it be implemented and be law, sure low premiums, like idk $300 a month, but come one who in the heck has $3000 – $ 5000+ bucks laying around for the deduction ( that you have to spend before any benefits kick in) , that kills this thing right in the starting block

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a way to screw it up all the more: log on and create accounts with all made-up information, including random numbers for Social Security Number, in order to get the information you seek to expose the true cost of Obamacare. And then, snicker, as anyone attempting to create an account using a SS number that has already been taken will get a denial of access message. Oh, how I love to throw monkey wrenches into these disgusting government plans.

  • greywolfrs

    You are a fool. Single payer will NEVER happen. If you want that, move to Europe. Dipshit.

  • greywolfrs

    Again, you are a fool, you are not doing anything of the sort. Single-payer will NEVER come to be. Here’s an idea, take personal responsibility and pay for your own health care, dirtbag.

  • Linda Gjeltema

    yuck toohey should get his head out of his ass!

  • Anonymous

    edtoohey, Even the King of England was a strong Hitler supporter. His mother mostly spoken in German. The royals were all inter-married so everyone of the Kings, Queens, Czars, were cousins. When WW1 started it was a dispute between cousins, and it killed millions.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    Better idea Cuba.

  • Anonymous

    This is a sign-in just like passing this bill to see what’s in it. You won’t see what your rate will be unless you sign in first. Plays directly into lulu Pelosi’s remarks. Oh, I guess the majority of Americans are dumb, especially all those leaders in Washington! Americans are dumb, the media are dumber and the government is dumbest.

  • bull57

    I there anything about the Obama administration we can trust or believe? When I read or hear anything about Obama I automatically think, ok, so what is the real truth!

  • Anonymous

    Don’t they have until January? Although, I don’t support the bill it seems premature to determine anything. We still have another 9 or 10 plus weeks. If you multiply 30,000. times 10 weeks you get: 300,000 which is quite dismal, however, the numbers can explode the last couple of weeks (probably bringing this poorly prepared system down). Now they need 7,000,000. people to remain solvent. That over 10 weeks would mean they need 700,000. people to actually enroll each week to get to that point. This system forces people to actually submit ‘all’ their information even before they know if they want to do it or not. It sounds like you have to actually enroll to know if it is beneficial for you or not. And if you enroll and then decide it’s not for you too bad. I hope this does fail miserably. Remember, you have to pass the bill to see what’s in it. Now you have to enroll in it to see if it is beneficial for you or not. Wow. People are foolish if they jump into something, before knowing everything they need to know before joining it. When will more people realize they cannot trust these people.

  • Anonymous

    Still though, I don’t think it was ever meant to work in the first place. I believe it was meant to financially hurt people, then when the public cries for a change that they will march out H.R. 676 (the single payer or national healthcare system), a congressional bill which has already been written and they are simply waiting for their chance.

  • Anonymous

    True, but don’t you think that has been the plan all along? To fail.

  • Draxx

    I completely agree with you that was their intentions all along…

  • Anonymous

    yeah, but we’re the passengers on that doomed voyage. america has been sold out.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t like the idea of them collecting information and they will get back with you later. Why do they want the information? I think this system came about because so many hospitals were going broke because of supplying services to illegal aliens plus Americans on welfare. They thought they figured out a way to get the taxpayers to pay for those who don’t, and the Unions and Congress and people like Pelosi don’t want to pay for the people who can’t – they are forcing their little servants to pay for the poorer people. They care about no one.

  • Anonymous

    How nice and christian like of all of you to think your fellow Americans don’t deserve health care coverage. You are the reason I reject christianity. And you do know that they haven’t been working on the exchanges for three years. And there are state sites people can use. And if those crazy people hating republican governors had set up their own websites the federal ones wouldn’t be so busy?

  • Anonymous

    Could it be this was predesigned by the Obama Administration to fail. We are apt to think more about how to denounce the program when in reality, if it fails miserably, the administration will take it as a sign that a total government takeover of our society is necessary to force our citizens to support this law that cannot survive rational, common sense. We have witnessed the Democratic Party reject the expressed will of the majority of Americans and ram this bill through Congress using backroom conferences, dirty deals, and devisive rhetoric at the expense of common sense and decency. We need to listen closely to the lying rhetoric coming from Obama, the Democrats, and the Republicans between now and January when this OBOMINATION takes place.

    I believe it will heat up considerably in the near future. It has never been about healthcare for the American people. It has been about government control of our entire society to force 270 million people to support the 30 miilion that Obama said this massive takeover would benefit. We know at this point, before it even begins, that is puts and usustainable financial burden on the very people it purports to help. And we know that it is already a miserable failure in terms of people signing up. Obama wants to be like the petty dictators of past history who have brainwashed their citizens into thinking they know better than the individual what’s best for them. If we don’t do something to stop, or at least, delay this massive government takover, we will surely see it get worse as more and more of our freedoms are tampled on by this administration.

  • Anonymous

    Beware – they will know who you are.

  • Draxx

    But, it isn’t sunk yet We can still save America, it only goes completely under if we let it…

  • Anonymous

    well Tim…..and moobmanfan and edtoohey….does CBS fall into the “National Enquirer” catagory? Health care consultant Bob Laszewski says plan insurers he has heard from report enrollment is low. The administration hoped 7 million would choose a policy by the end of the year. But he said some major companies have told him their enrollment numbers are in the hundreds.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57607200/how-many-americans-have-signed-up-for-obamacare/

  • Anonymous
  • mhlr the bluesman

    like dave says “do the math!” healthcare for everyone is a noble idea but just try to stick with math mjw. When 46% of Americans don’t pay any taxes where do you think the money to pay for all of this is going to come from?

  • Amy Thomas

    There is nothing that the government takes over and does better. Nothing.

    http://www.passionatepurpose.org

  • Anonymous

    How will they know if I give them a different name, a different birthday, a different address, a different SSN, etc.?

  • Carol Dorne

    These idiots still think it’s free. john

  • Anonymous

    But liberals never stay mad at their own for very long. It’s all for show.

  • Anonymous

    I just read a report saying hospitals are laying off personnel in what is now being billed as a healthcare recession. Last month 8,128 people lost their jobs, more than any other industry. Likely causes are lower payments through Medicare, which is only going to get worse as scheduled cuts are implemented.

    Hospitals with high readmission rates are also getting hit with fines. Once all those millions of low-income, low-information folks on Obamacare show up at hospitals, you can bet their readmission rates will go through the roof. These people are not likely to follow instructions once released from the hospital, so government bean counters will blame the hospitals but not the ignorant patients.

  • Rick Stanley

    Snicker…

  • Anonymous

    Out of the 30,000 enrolled, how many of those are the free plans from the expansion of Medicaid, that we taxpayers have to flip the entire bill for?

  • Tim Daly

    It’s failing because the Koch Brothers paid for a denial of service attack on the website. Get a clue on how the internet world operates. If you were informed, you’d understand that you can place a phone call and a rep is waiting to finalize your application. You can also speak to a Navigator as well. The web is not the only place to go…even if Glenn Beck brainwashed you to think this. Knocking down the website was a way to make news and distract you.

  • Anonymous

    Broadcast news in general is just a poor source of information. You don’t get detailed information. No matter what network it is, TV news consists of 2 minute story segments (if that) followed by 20 minutes of “analysts” offering their opinions on information. Who wants to watch that? I get that some people enjoy certain perspectives (like those who enjoy Glenn) but how does that help you sort your own opinions? I prefer the print/online media that name their sources and actually conduct interviews/fact check before I make my opinion for myself.

  • Tim Daly

    How many companies does Bob Laszewski work for as consultant? I want names of the companies and proof that he has enough contact in the industry to make a forecast. One bullshitter looking to get on TV is not proof of anything sheeple boy.

  • Anonymous

    I think the electronic food stamp failure this weekend was a warning sign to let us know what could happen on a larger scale if we try to revise Welfare, or interfere with our Government giving more handouts and making more people dependent, thus affecting their voting pool and their power.

  • Anonymous

    Is anyone surprised at this. Not only is it government run and government is the embodiment of incompetence, but it is Democrat run and Democrat = EPIC FAIL!

  • Stacey Borenstein Clay

    Maybe they can find you through your ISP address.

  • Stacey Borenstein Clay

    I heard people had to be signed up by Dec. 15. That’s only two months away.

  • Anonymous

    If you saw a low $300 a month premium, that amount is after a huge subsidy. Who do you think is paying for everyone’s subsidies?

  • Anonymous

    We will probably never know the real totals until a hacker finds out and tells us.

  • mspatdev

    This is what they have wanted since obammy has been in office. This has been in his plans. If he wanted everything, then he wouldn’t be so stubborn or childish about meeting with the GOP. This mess we are in, is because of obammy and reid. The House is doing what the USA people want, no obammycare and no more spending by obammy. I have sent many petitions to stop both. In 5 years he has spent 9 trillion dollars. Most of that money has gone to his buddies in the Mid-East and his muslim brotherhood. He isn’t Christian. There would not be so many problems with the Christians in this nation. He is Muslim.

  • mspatdev

    Hey, that’s good. obammycare will be on there laps to. I don’t think the rag media wants all of there information being known to the world.

  • mspatdev

    You signed up on your computer and into many sights and that is how they know you. Google, aol and many more will tell the dictator in the white house.

  • mspatdev

    Besides the people taking the info are hardened criminals, most are out jail. If you work for obammycare you get $48.00 per hour, OUR TAX MONEY and the money collected for your tax. Supreme Court said that obammycare is a tax. If obammy had not cheated his way to office, we would have had Romney. Don’t believe a word that he tells people in campaining as they are all lies. He is the biggest lier of on earth. Other countries do not believe what he says. He is the laughing stock to the world. What a shame.

  • mspatdev

    No, not at all, because he lies to much.

  • mspatdev

    You can’t keep your insurance or your doctors. This is law. I’m mad about this.

  • Anonymous

    The claim that the reason you have to apply first in order to even get a look at what is available because the government offers so many subsidies is ridiculous. If you read the Forbes article, it details how all but the most poverty stricken DO NOT qualify for ANY subsidies. And, frankly, why would the poverty stricken need those subsidies? They already qualify for a plethora of government programs on both the federal and state levels. It is highly unlikely that the poor will see any significant change in their Medicaid coverage, but Medicare recipients WILL see cost increases in order to pay for the “affordable” portions of the new care act.

    Many of those who were supposed to be helped by Obamacare (if we are to believe the president) will actually be pushed out of full time work, and out of insurance that would have been provided by their employers and that they will be financially unable to obtain on their own due to Obamacare’s out of control prices.

    According to the article, premiums will be much higher for 99% of men and 62% of women than what they could previously purchase. Additionally, many more of these people could previously purchase better coverage than what is offered for those exorbitant price hikes. Most co-pays have increased by between 60% and 400%.

    The president’s intransigence in the face of the utter and total failure of his healthcare law can be attributed to only one thing. He knows he’s got the US mainstream press in his corner and he’s determined to FINALLY win something in the world, even if he has to destroy the US economy to prove his point. He claims that Obamacare is an unchangeable force of nature and that it CANNOT be changed. Well, the 2,000 page disaster that was originally voted on has swelled to nearly 20,000 pages that were not. Never mind the fact that a legislative trick was utilized to obtain passage of the bill and that it never passed a true vote of both the House and Senate. Never mind that no one had ever seen the original bill prior to its passage. Now, we are to believe that the 20,000 pages resultant from leftist, progressivist orgiastic wielding of a pen are somehow immutable law and that nothing can or will be changed.

    The only thing that is unchanging here is Obama’s gargantuan ego. The mainstream press is falling all over themselves to explain how a man who says he will not negotiate…PERIOD, on ANY point of the healthcare regulations, including exempting himself and his cronies from the requirements of the law, is actually the greatest statesman in presidential history. They see not a shred of hypocrisy in those statements, and willingly label any who would dare oppose their god of terrorism, jihadist intentions, extremist, and completely at fault for being unwilling to compromise. Never mind that the democrats won’t even allow any proposed compromises out of committee. No, that’s not hypocritical. According to their worshipers, that’s actually an example of magnanimous compromise. Don’t you just love the left? I wish that I had no morals and could be a leftist so that I could say anything, do anything and blatantly do the opposite of what I say, all to the adoring praise of a worshipful press and mindless group of followers who would rather do anything but think.

  • Anonymous

    These are the dates off of the website:
    October 1, 2013: Marketplace open enrollment started
    January 1, 2014: Health coverage can start
    March 31, 2014: Open enrollment ends
    Apparently, health care/Obamacare can start no sooner than Jan. 1st and no later than Mar. 31st. So up to some 22 or so weeks.

  • Anonymous

    Too bad the Republicans didn’t believe their own rhetoric about Obamacare being a disaster. If they did, they would have never launched into the government shut-down fiasco (which is providing the best distraction that the Democrats could have hoped for). Instead, they could have simply allowed ACA to be the colossal and spectacular failure that it is, in full public view, and then been assured a massive victory come November (at which point they would have the Congressional super-majority needed to completely repeal this Hindenburg of a law). Instead, they made the shut-down the big news story, and made themselves look like the bad guys. Now, come November, we’ll be lucky if Republicans keep the House, and there is no way ACA will get repealed. I still say the Republicans are secretly working for the Democrats, and that includes Ted Cruz.

  • Anonymous

    Correct. And because the Republicans screwed up this shut-down thing so badly, the Democrats will likely get a majority in the House this November.

  • Anonymous

    Sold out? By who, the election fairy? Americans brought this on themselves by electing traitors and Communists to the highest level of authority.

  • Anonymous

    I have zero sympathy for anyone that voluntarily gives the Obama administration their personal information.

  • Anonymous

    You’re not seeing the big picture. The plan is for this to fail so single-payer can be implemented. That’s the only reason the MSM is reporting the ACA failures.

  • Anonymous

    It’s more than that. Many in the welfare class use hospitals as hotels. Even if they get better, or were fine in the first place, they’ll still return for the free room an meals. And with laws forbidding hospitals from refusing care, there isn’t much that can be done to stop them.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure how much Obama cheated in the election. If the Democrats had a way to rig the vote, we would see a Dem-controlled House of Representatives. I just think the American people are immoral filth who do what the media tells them to do. Moreover, all the born-agains and Baptists stayed home because of their religious bigotry – they’d rather see a communist in the WH than a Latter-day Saint.

  • Anonymous

    I think the Republicans are actually working for the Democrats. What better way to provide cover for the ACA disaster than a govt shut-down?

  • Anonymous

    OH, so you’ve called and gotten through with everything working for you? You’ve been able to receive eligibility results, choose a plan a pay your premium? That’s weird because I know some of the people working at one of the call centers and they have yet to get full access to their systems and be able to go all the way through the application and eligibility results with any callers.

  • Anonymous

    I have friends who work at one of the call centers, they are not criminals, they are hard-working people who need jobs. They had to pass a drug screen, background check and sign their lives away with non-disclosures. They also earn barely above minimum wage so working there is a job to support their families.

  • Doc Savage

    Anthem BCBS has informed my that my family’s current insure will only be good until Dec 2014, after that who knows. Over the years since Obamacare was enacted my family insurance more that doubled. Still the progressives south end of a north bound mule insist that this is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

  • Watch it

    Use Obama’s fake social security number.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, it’s amazing how little 500 million dollars buys these days.

  • Anonymous

    Which rats? They all seem to be on board.

  • Anonymous

    I’m no computer wiz, but your computer has an ISP address or whatever they call it. Unless you go over to a neighbor’s house or something.

  • Anonymous

    I think the Republicans should let it all play out, and then the Dems will be adrift on this one come 2014. It is going to fail no doubt about it. Also, it may be obama’s way of getting everyone off the matters at hand.

  • Watch it

    Hey why not? They vote too.

  • Rick Robert

    i read what i could of obamacare, it is pure insurance jargon.I have a gut feeling that this whole fiasco was drummed up by the insurance companies as a way to make even more money from the american people.

  • Anonymous

    At this rate, it will take 113 years to “enroll” every American alive today. I choose to be the very last one.

  • mspatdev

    The GOP didn’t screw up this shut-down. They were following the people who them in office. The people didn’t want obammycare and they don’t want to give obammy more spending money to leave our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. obammy DID NOT WANT TO NEGOTIATE ANYTHING THAT THE GOP AND PEOPLE OF THIS NATION ASKED OF HIM. He and his minions, reid said NO to everything that was sent to him. The dictator and reid are not negotiating with anyone. They are a bunch of cry babies. Read and take things that is printed as not gospel.

  • mspatdev

    me to.

  • mspatdev

    obammy didn’t have insurance, regular people like you and I or doctors there. It was the socialist, communist people on how to scalp the USA people. If there were doctors and insurance there, the obammycare would be a lot better. WE THE PEOPLE DIDN’T EVEN GET TO READ OR EVEN VOTE.

  • Take 2

    Health Care:
    It truly needs a revamp to make it AFFORDABLE for those whom have never before afforded a health plan, which means, NO deductibles NO penalties and under 100$ per month.

    Dems I see on TV Banting this FORCED TAX BILL was approved and GOP lost…

    These folks are illiterate fools, (Including Obama – Reid – Pelosi) or just down right communistic morons i.e. THE penalty phase is down right evil.

  • Anonymous

    I fear the idea of letting it all play out may be like a citizen of Troy saying “I’m against bringing that giant wooden horse inside the walls, but in the morning when everyone sees that it is not a gift, we’ll just push it back outside”.

  • david s

    Bad government! Socialized Health care… they want YOUR health information. It should be PRIVATE for you, your family and your doctor, ONLY!

  • mspatdev

    I agree with you. Look into the following information:
    YouTube.com/Watch?v+KbclyEJv+48 I knew something about this information a few years ago, but then I missed placed it and then today, Oct.15th, found it again, but with more information. Read and then listen and send it to many more people. Have a good day.

  • mspatdev

    They were paying so much attention to obammy getting into office they thought the House members were strong enough to get into office by themselves. There was a lot of cheating going on by the unions. When people voted for GOP, it came up as obammy. He went to the low income areas and gave them free phones that we are paying for there vote.There mortgages have been paid for, rent payments are paid for, again by the tax payers, SO HE CAN HAVE THERE VOTES FOR HIM. He was very dishonest and still is. I wouldn’t belieive him as far as I could throw a SUV car. He was doing things illegal and passing everything on to us to pay for them. He should have paid for them himselve. He had billions of money from so much campaigning. He stills does instead of doing his job now.

  • mspatdev

    There is plenty of other people, but where I live at my friends children were hunting for jobs and they were competing with the criminals. You have to join the unions. They didn’t want the job. You want them to know every single thing about you? Then when they get tired of the job, they have S.S. information, drivers license info, credit cards you birthdate and everything else about you? I don’t. They don’t have any finger prints or anything about the person, when they take every single from you.This relates to obammycare. Why in the hell do they need all of this info anyway? It is none of there business. When I go to a doctor or hospital, they don’t require about all of this. This is supposed to be about healthcare and not to buy a car or a house.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    But who will trust them after this fails? That is a big piture as long as we clean house by voting some of the rhinos out of the GOP they will never have enough votes to even do so.Sure it is a big gamble but I fear their is no other option left for us.

  • Mike Lewis

    mspatdev, don’t give Cormac that much attention, with rational explanation. Either hes a RINO and no conception of fighting for our country’s ideals, or a OblameO supporter and trying to divert attention from the “I Told ya So”s.

  • Tim Daly

    I guess we should shut the whole damn thing down given the feedback from these people you personally know that work at one of the call centers making $12 per hour with their glorified GEDs. They are the experts, aren’t they?

    Your personal network of friends feedback is not proof of a failed program. Nor is the first two weeks proof of a failure. Massachussetts was able to implement its predecessor “Romneycare” with 98.5% penetration in a year. Do yourself a favor and leave business thinking to those with the educational fortitude to understand how you build something and stop taking the word of blue collar workers that are a byproduct of our failed education system.

  • Tim Daly

    And here are the visitor traffic trends from Alexa.com. Ranked 318th in site traffic in USA. What a failure!!!!!

  • DoninAcworthGeorgia

    So, where are we today? Really, how many have enrolled?

  • DoninAcworthGeorgia

    So, where are we today? Really, how many have enrolled?

  • Anonymous

    Probably the reason people have to write in details before they’re able to find out how much the various insurance rates are is because there are so many different ones. It’s not like buying a car at all, the insurance is customized for each person.

  • Anonymous

    Probably the reason people have to write in details before they’re able to find out how much the various insurance rates are is because there are so many different ones. It’s not like buying a car at all, the insurance is customized for each person.

  • jolene henry

    how did we let this happen to us we voted for these people and they become king over us GEORGE WASHINGTON must be turning over his grave how we let these people in because they say that we need a change now we get a new health care put down in our mouth or else the county goes broke and it will be soup lines again they are trying to brake us they don’t care for the AMERICAN PEOPLE they only care for them selves they are getting paid even now GOD BLESS US TAKE CARE OF US TAKE THE BAD OUT PLEASE FORGIVE US FOR WANTING CHANGE we sure got it what else do they want??? from us.

  • jolene henry

    how did we let this happen to us we voted for these people and they become king over us GEORGE WASHINGTON must be turning over his grave how we let these people in because they say that we need a change now we get a new health care put down in our mouth or else the county goes broke and it will be soup lines again they are trying to brake us they don’t care for the AMERICAN PEOPLE they only care for them selves they are getting paid even now GOD BLESS US TAKE CARE OF US TAKE THE BAD OUT PLEASE FORGIVE US FOR WANTING CHANGE we sure got it what else do they want??? from us.

  • Snorri

    Life is hard, but it gets much harder when the electorate blindly and stupidly votes Democrats into office. Obama buyers remorse? As they say in Washington, thank you useful idiot.

  • Anonymous

    I talked to someone yesterday concerning this website crashing. They work for a very well known firm in the F-500. As a dept head in web/e-comm’s….. they said you would be fired on the spot. +$600M and 3 years is plenty of time to get it right. Boy did we have a laugh…. and a few more jokes to continue the moment of fun.
    Ms. Sebilius needs to go! Pronto!!
    The Canadian firm that built the site – going to have a hard time justifying 3years & +$600M spent and can’t get rollout Day into perfection-mode, let alone obtaining more clients in the future.
    With a 180 Day Sign-up window…. they need 38,889 people to sign up each day to make their target of 7,000,000 people to keep the legs underneath this Nationalized Healthplan.
    I seriously doubt, with all the information to fill out and lagtime due to logged-on users, they are going to make those quotas?
    So…. what…. are we, the taxpayers, going to bailout Obama-care, I mean the ACA, if it doesn’t meet the support criteria….. or will they literally PUSH US into the plan – a plan no one in their right mind wants or desires.
    This is not even funny and its laughable.

  • Cartman

    The web design looks like shit. Too much happening on one page and it’s not even responsive html-5, it’s easy to rip and has a terrible iframe-esque quality to the borders of it’s nav-bar.

  • Anonymous

    Koch brothers? Really. Your going to use that B.S. excuse. How bout Soros. By the way I made that call. My insurance will be 2.25 times what I used to have and my deductable is $5500.

  • Anonymous

    read it for yourself or get someone to read it to you http://healthpol.com/id1.html