Ted Cruz stands up to detractors: I didn’t come to D.C. to make friends

One thing that has made Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) so divisive is his unfailing ability to say exactly what is on his mind. From the beginning, Sen. Cruz has made his objective clear: He is in Washington to serve his constituents in Texas. And during an interview with ABC News set to air Sunday, Sen. Cruz reaffirms that very point, explaining he is not in Washington to make friends.

“Ted Cruz and Mike Lee are the two best guys in the Senate,” Glenn said on radio this morning. “They’re principled. They’re decent. They’re being excoriated by everybody. And they’re not going to stop. They don’t care. They said: This is what you asked me to do. I ran on this. You asked me to stand by the Constitution. You asked me to do these things. I will do them. And they’re very bright – two of the brightest guys in Washington. So here is Ted Cruz.”

REPORTER: How much do your colleagues just despise you right now on the floor? I mean I hear some really strong language from your own fellow Republican senators.

CRUZ: Listen. You know –

REPORTER: You made some enemies in this battle.

CRUZ: There’s an old saying that politics, it ain’t beanbag. And, you know, I’m not serving in office because I desperately needed 99 new friends in the U.S. Senate. And you know what? There is an inverse relationship. Given the choice between being reviled in Washington D.C. and appreciated in Texas, or reviled in Texas and appreciated in Washington, I would take the former 100 out of 100 times.

And I’ll tell you: When I go back home in Texas, I have a job that I was elected to do and that’s to represent 26 million Texans, to fight for them, and they are frustrated just like people all over this country. Their top priority is jobs and economic growth, and Washington isn’t listening to them. But there’s a difference. You want to draw me into discussing specific individual senators. I’m not going to do that. I will say that the reason this deal, the lousy deal was reached last night, is because unfortunately Senate Republicans made the choice not to support House Republicans. I wish Senate Republicans had united. I tried to do everything I could to urge Senate Republicans to come together and to stand with House Republicans because –

REPORTER: So you’re saying more than that, though. You’re saying not only did they not support House conservatives, that they attacked House conservatives, Republicans.

CRUZ: Well, and I think it was unfortunate. I think it was unfortunate that you saw multiple Senate Republicans going on television, attacking House conservatives, attacking the efforts to defund Obamacare, saying it cannot win, it’s a fool’s error and we will lose, this must fail, that is a recipe for losing the fight, and it’s a shame. I really wish Senate Republicans had simply stood with House Republicans and said, “You know what? We’re going to be unified listening to the American people.”

“What awful, hateful rhetoric, and he’s right. He’s right. You know, they doomed themselves to failure from the very beginning. Because what did they do? I mean really think about what the Republicans have done. The Republicans said that they were going to do everything they can to stop Obamacare. And maybe we should have said more specifically: Is there a period there? Is it: We’re going to do everything we can to stop Obamacare from being inflicted on us in Congress. Or are you doing everything you can do to stop Obamacare, period,” Glenn asked. “They did everything they could to stop it from being inflicted on them but not on us. And as soon as they got their special deal, then they were done.”

As Glenn explained, what we witnessed in the Senate is actually a move right out of the progressive playbook. It is Rules for Radicals from so-called Republicans.

“It doesn’t even make sense. It just doesn’t even make sense. Unless you’re playing the game that the White House plays. I mean, look. Let me show you, it’s Rules For Radicals. That’s Rules For Radicals. Do you see what John McCain, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Peter King [did],” Glenn asked. “What they did is Rules For Radicals: Isolate, call them names, call them extremists, call them every name in the book. And that’s what they did… So when you have that kind of rhetoric going on behind the scenes, what are they doing? They’re doing Saul Alinsky.”

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  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Cruz is right, he did not come to make friends, he came there to do the job he was elected to do – take a stand for the people of America, and for conservatism.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    One of the main problems we have in DC, among the entrenched old guard, is the ‘old boys’ network. They succumb to the system, and believe they have the right to rule, and that the people answer to them, not the other way around.

    Cruz, and the 17 others who stood fast show the truth of the matter, and reprimand by example and deed the others that they are there to do the will of the people, and not the other way around.

  • Anonymous

    What a snake oil salesman this Cruz fellow is. He seems to slick down his ahir and forehead with snake oil. (I’m also a member. LOL)

    Notice how he never says anything substantial? Just “I’d rather be reviled in Washington and admired in Texas,” and “Listen to the American people.” He is bad, bad news.

  • Bonnie Somer

    thats right and we need more men and women like him not the o/way around people who stand up for what they believe, for america and the constitution

  • http://www.facebook.com/brian.johnson.71404976 Brian Johnson

    Glenn Beck must die!

  • Stephen Hafley

    So, go pay tour Obama bill and surrender your property and very life without a fight of any kind. Maybe you want that? I don’t. There is plenty of substance in his argument (and mine), I only see name-calling in yours. “What a snake oil salesman this Cruz fellow is.”, you wrote. Have you nothing better?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    We need more like Ted Cruz now watch the birthers come out of the wood work.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    Oh look typical liberal troll.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, the conservative birthers who claim he’s not eligible to be President (if that’s not ironic, I don’t know what is). I’ve gotten into more than my share of arguments with them over this, and it seems to me that if you want someone elected badly enough you don’t go searching for historical legal arguments about why he should be disqualified. But enough about that.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    So have I and I think for now on I am going to avoid them like the plague because even when you bring facts to the table they just repeat the same bull. Anyone can find anything on the internet that back up everything everyone believes I think these “conservative” birthers would believe anything besides the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Boy do I hear you! When I saw I had a reply I immediately thought “Oh, no, I knew I should have kept my mouth shut.” So I’m really relieved that it’s you and not one of them, because I really don’t have the time or the will to get into that argument for the umpteen millionth time.

  • I Tedder

    You wanna talk SNAKE”S here Blusterbudget?? king cobra’s/ black mamba’s , are running our WH..and u have the audacity to bash a man that would do everything on this earth to save america?????? YOUR insane obama is going to turn American into a 3rd world Detroit, but all people like u can do is BASH the one’s trying to prevent that from happening? GET A FREEKEN CLUE U MORON

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    I bet if you bring Tomas Jefferson back from the grave and he says you guys got it all wrong. They will still try to argue their point. Their is just no wining with fools.

  • I Tedder

    HOW BOUT we change the name is that one from beck to HUSSEIN the other traitor we have in our WH that has committed TREASON more times than he goes to the bathroom

  • I Tedder

    amen Phil. yet thier KING has YET IN 5 YRS to come forth and proove his IDENTITY????? HE HAS A LAWYER …PAID LAWYER (MILLIONS) TO KEEP HIS IDENTITY LOCKED IN A VAULT AWAY FROM ALL AMERICANS TO SEE??? Yet they bAsh Cruz whos father was born in Cuba…Mom in Connecticut USA…he was born in Canada. GAve UP his Canadian citizenship for America. YEP they will literally swarm him…yet their TRAITOR OBAMA IS THEIR king. REPULSIVE AND SICKENING

  • Anonymous

    Poster Stompy Feet is having a sissy fit. Hope your online anonymity software is up to speed or you may get an FBI agent knocking on your door.

    Facebook Account…tsk…tsk….Good Luck with that.

  • I Tedder

    LAPhil… HAVE U SEEN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE? 312 mILLION PEOPLE HAVE NOT..SO NOW ITS WHAT 311 MILLION Since you’re so sure of his AMERICAN BIRTH RIGHTS???? GET A CLUE U LIBERAL MORN. STOP BASHING SOMEONE U FAIL TO VETT FOR SOMEONE U so admire that is a total LOSER. OBAMA KEESP HIS IDENTIY LOCKED UP IN A FREEKEN VAULT AND U HAVE
    THE NERVE TO BASH CRUZ????????????

  • Anonymous

    Boy are you confused! When did I bash Cruz? You’ve completely misunderstood everything I’ve been saying. There’s an old gag phrase which applies to you after it’s paraphrased:
    “Caution: Be sure brain is engaged before putting keyboard in gear”.

  • Anonymous

    Tell me about it. When you quote them the law chapter and verse they still claim you’re wrong because THEY know what the Founders had in mind!

  • greywolfrs

    You first, punk bitch.

  • greywolfrs

    It’s not about being a birther, it’s about the Constitution. The Constitution specifically states what is required to be President. It’s time for both sides to stop trying to weasel their way around the Constitution. Technically, both Obamao and Cruz are not eligible.

  • greywolfrs

    I did not see him bash Cruz. What the hell are you talking about? By the way, the caps lock is on the left side of the keyboard, feel free to turn it off.

  • greywolfrs

    Except the Constitution states EXACTLY what the requirments for being president are and beither Obamao nor Cruz qualify. That is the truth, in plain English for all to see.

  • greywolfrs

    So, actually listening to the people who voted for him means there is noi substance? Him doing exactly what got him elected and not playing the establishment games in Washington means he has no substance? I am curious to know what you believe gives a person substance, since doing what he said and saying what he means obviously doesn’t count. Nevermind, it will probably be some stupidity, so just keep it to yourself.

  • Anonymous

    OK, here we go again. I’m going to do this civilly, because you seem like a decent guy and I hate this argument, but it looks like I’ve got to do it again. This is from the U.S. Constitution on line. I’m afraid if I post the link the whole comment might bounce, but you can Google it.

    Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

    The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.

    Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

    Anyone born inside the United States *

    Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe

    Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

    Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

    Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

    A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

    * There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

  • greywolfrs

    OK, I am speaking to the ORIGINAL Constitution, which had no 14th Amendment. By the ORIGINAL document, neither are eligible. That’s my point. I have read the 14th Amendment, which clearly states that both are eligible, I am not denying that fact…

  • Anonymous

    OK, then there should be no problem if Cruz decides to run for President, right?

  • greywolfrs

    Well, if you want to mention the Founders, then you would need to throw out the 14th Amendment, which would make neither eligible. I know what the Founders had in mind because I can read and comprehend. They did not write the Constitution in code. In fact, they wrote it in very simple terms. (for the time period it was written) They did that on purpose, it wasn’t an accident.

  • greywolfrs

    I am more concerned with the fact that our government, at ALL levels seems to shit on the Constitution whenever it suits them.
    I do not really care if Cruz runs. I didn’t really care that Obamao ran. I tend to look more at the big picture and that tells me that not following the Constitution is how we got into this mess in the first place. It also tells me that going back to following that document is the solution. The problem is most people in Washington are not following it and have no intention of following it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    I know Cruz was born in Canada. No my problem are with the people who think just because his father is Cuban he cannot be president. those are the people I got a problem with. Maybe I should of been more clear than I was.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    That is not the point. I know he is from Canada and their for he cannot run but my beef are with the idiots that think just because his father came from Cuba is the reason he cannot run for president that is my beef. Maybe I should of been more clear than I was.

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    That is the second time you spelled Thomas Jefferson’s name as “Tomas”. Or are you talking about someone else?

    Since you think your logical fallacies are valid, then here is one for you:

    I bet if Jesus Christ came back and told Sam Fisher he is a shrill ignoramus and has it all wrong. Sam Fisher would call him a racist libtard.

    Remain willfully ignorant, it’s what you do best.

  • Anonymous

    Unless I have a condensed version of the Constitution this is all it says on the subject:
    “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and have been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”
    This is where the issue of “natural born citizen” comes into play. That’s why I use the U.S. code I quoted earlier to solve that question.

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Your problem is ignorance.

    Vattell’s Law of Nations:

    § 212: Natural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens – it is necessary that they be born of a father who is a citizen. If a person is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    Oh look who is the one not controlling themselves. Ladies and gentlemen the poster child I was talking about or in his case the man child himself.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    oh look who is not controlling himself. I see you resorting to chasing people all over the internet again. God you are so predicable it is funny.

  • greywolfrs

    Except the 14th Amendment was put into play because of the end of slavery. It was to ensure that NO former slaves could be denied. Now, we are a hundred and fifty years down the line and all the interpretations are convoluting the original reason for the 14th Amendment.

  • greywolfrs

    If one goes by that, then all the children of the illegals in this country are not citizens of this country. They are, in fact, illegal themselves. How does that fit into your ignorance?

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    What are you talking about, I am not the one who said I was done with you and not going to respond anymore, that would be you.

    I won’t say you are a liar, I think you are just not grounded in reality and don’t know any better.

    Take some responsibility by either getting educated or being quiet about things you know nothing about. Which would be pretty much everything.

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    My ignorance?

    Vattel’s definition is of NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Are you arguing that the children of illegal aliens should be considered natural born Citizen?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    Thank you that is what I been trying to tell him all day yesterday.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    HA HA I am not he only one that thinks your insane.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    Well you keep being high on yourself I am going to leave now because unlike you I have a life have fun getting your ass handed to you by Grey wolfs.

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Keep distorting reality to suit your worldview based in Pantheism/Relativism.

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Natural born Citizen is not the same as a citizen described in the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment makes no references to natural born Citizen.

    Furthermore, if it was up to a government body to decide what is natural and what is not, then it ceases to be natural.

    I take it you are not a natural law advocate?

    If you want to change the clause for president, you would have to do it by amendment, not the legislature redefining the meanings of words, i.e. verbacide.

    Vattell’s Law of Nations:

    § 212: Natural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens – it is necessary that they be born of a father who is a citizen. If a person is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

  • Anonymous

    Case in point: SamFisher

  • Anonymous

    ^Tomas Jefferson?^ Is that some Cuban relative of Ted Cruz? LOL

  • Anonymous

    What makes Vattell’s Law of Nations the authority on the Constitution?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    Pantheism/Relativism is that suppose to be an insult. Even your insults need work. What an honor it better than being a rat like you. but really Devin get a life. Good night.

  • Anonymous

    I will stand with you Ted!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    It’s like I said in another thread: Ted Cruz and Glenn Beck are introducing political anorexia.
    The conservative movement has lost a lot of weight over the last few years…they’ve slimmed down considerably…
    but it’s still not enough. They think that are still…”not there yet…”
    So they’re going to shed some more. They’re going to drop all the impure RINO’S and THEN they’ll be there! Then they will be where they should be.

    The polls are showing that they’re losing too much…but they’ll ignore the numbers of the polls just as a real anorexic ignores the numbers on the bathroom scale….the numbers don’t matter, they’ll say…

    And their friends are telling them that they’re taking it too far…that they’re harming themselves…but the anorexic will ignore that as well. “Who are YOU to tell me what to do with MY body?!” They’ll say.

    The anorexic thinks that if she can just reach a certain place, people will like her more… that one day she’ll be “ideal”.

    The anorexic gets thinner…and weaker…and sicker…

  • Anonymous

    I wish Ted Cruz was one of my senators here in Florida instead of that POS Bill Nelson!

  • 733336

    Aw, that’s a nice analogy, but fictional.
    The conservative movement is robust, is growing &
    we are here to stay.

  • Anonymous

    Wow! These liberal thinkers have got their s— together! They know just how to send conservatives down the road squaking like a bunch of magpies! One makes a simple statement about a (simple?) subject and it takes only one word from one person to set the whole bunch off!
    The word that worked the majic here was birther! That word couldv’e been Cruz or Lee!
    I have not heard that Ted Cruz is running for president. The elections are quite a few beers away anyway!
    I ain’t no politician but the way I see it all those liberals are doing a masterful job of manulipating conservatives. While the house is burniong the firemen are arguing about a bunch of firewood that needs to be saved.
    Ted Cruz and Lee are standing up there getting blasted like Sarah Palin was. Libs must have sat around the conferance table a long time to come up with that meaningless crap about her dresses but it turned out so well for them cause their buddy’s in the media took it and set the countryside on fire with it and the other crap they managed to come up with.
    My point is. I look at conservatives like they all have a bit of Spock in them. He would take all the steak given to him and chew on it a bit then make a statement what was being fed him. If someone brought him turkey he’d likely say this don’t compute.
    This birther deal just don’t compute. Like Palin’s dresses. And more vomit that comes out of D.C. Whatever come out of the sewer of the Capitol and white house has an agenda. Most times when I hear something coming out of a lib’s mouth (espically lib D.C.) I start looking at the horizion for what they are trying to devert my attention from. Nothing new about the method they are using. It’s exactly the way the Nazi’s did it back in the thirties and fourties. Don’t believe it? That can be easily verified by honest recounts of the rise of Hitler.
    What the h—! gettig way off subject and I only planned to add my thumbs up to melhorn.
    I know you guys reading the articles in the Blaze are probably conservative and I would like to see my fellow conservatives using their superior thinking abilities to let us all in on how we are going to survive after the king takes over the country completely!

    Who in the hell started the crap about Cruz birth anyway? I smell Bamacrap!

  • Anonymous

    Case in point! edtoohey above!

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    What other definition was there at the time the Constitution was drafted?

    The meaning is self-evident.

    There is no question about someone’s citizenship when they are born in country to two citizen parents, hence they are natural born citizens.

    If it takes legislation by congress to make someone a citizen, then they are a naturalized citizen but they can never be natural born.

    The Presidency is the only position a naturalized citizen is disqualified from holding.

    Re: natural law

    “Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation, commonly called the first law of nature.” -Samuel Adams The Rights of the Colonist 1772

    You may recognize life, liberty and property/pursuit of Happiness from the Declaration of Independence where our government officially recognized the Laws of Nature.

    Hardly an obscure outside source. Natural law is what governs those who are virtuous and wish to be self-governed, i.e. to be in a state of liberty.

    “This is what is called the law of nature, which, being coeval with mankind, and dictated by God himself, is, of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries at all times. No human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid, derive all their authority, mediately or immediately, from this original.” Sir William Blackstone

    If you are interested in learning about the principles of our government, here is a list of recommended reading material from Thomas Jefferson and James Madison among others:

    http://www.liberty1.org/UVA1825.pdf

    Re: Ted Cruz and obscure concepts

    If these obscure laws would have been enforced, Obama would never have been elected. If this obscure law would be enforced, it would automatically nullify all legislation signed into law by Obama. Goodbye Obama-Care.

    Doesn’t sound so obscure to me.

    To answer your question, under the rule of law, Ted Cruz IS disqualified. It is irrelevant if it makes me happy or not, the law applies to everyone equally. If not, we have anarchy which will quickly become tyranny.

    Are we a Nation of Laws or of men?

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    It’s only an insult if you are not a Pantheist/Relativist. I sure wouldn’t want to be one.

    Goodnight Sweet Pea

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    “The opinion of ten thousand men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject.” ~Marcus Aurelius

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps the Democrats can be characterized as gluttons that are getting fatter… and weaker… and sicker…

    When the anorexic dies someone can take pity and carry the unfortunate soul to burial. The unfortunate glutton will need an army and a lot of work to bury. Why should the glutton care? Someone else will have to clean up the mess.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    Like I told you before I really don’t give a rats ass what you think of me.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    Dude you should be attacking the racist down their that thinks that if you father was Mexican than you have no right to be a citizen.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    “Fools mock at making amends for sin, but goodwill is found among the upright.” King Solomon

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  • Anonymous

    That’s ok Senator Cruz, we have your back here in Texas!!! Keep on doing what your doing and maybe some of it will rub off on the horrible ones in Washington. Your doing a great job for us in Texas. Don’t quit…..EVER!!!!

  • Anonymous

    That is exactly right. The work for us and when everyone finally get it through their heads we can make the change that is needed. Maybe some that went along to get along with have guts enough to stand for what they believe and work for their people. Imagine what change we could have made if ALL the Republicans would have stood together with Senator Cruz. We would have won this last go around. Now I say, clean house and get rid of the old guard and ones who think they own the government.

  • Anonymous

    His birth certificate was worked over and tried to pass as a legal document. The specialists already said it was forged. There was a birth announcement but everyone has that, just not stating he is American. We all know he is not!!! and will find that out when he leaves office. That is why he doesn’t care one dime about America or Americans, and he is leading us to destruction.

  • Anonymous

    If you want to base your argument on the original Constitution then I can’t disprove it, although it’s ultimately still a matter of interpretation as to what constitutes a natural-born citizen according to the Framers. Since they didn’t make a specific ruling for every possible contingency we don’t know what they had in mind. There is nothing in there about any requirement that a person have two citizen parents or even that he be born on U.S. soil.
    There is a fallacy is using the original Constitution anyway, since if you were to use that as your authority you would legally be able to own slaves today. When deciding a question such as a candidate’s eligibility to run for President one must use the most current law available, which is based on the AMENDED Constitution. This is why Title 8, Section 1401 of the U.S. code would be used if the issue came up, since it constitutes the most current legal interpretation of the original intent.

  • Anonymous

    Once Fox news (Oreilly) disagreed with the Tea Party GOP’s effort to stop funding Obama Care because it wouldn’t win the Dems had 100% media support to shut down government and blame it on the GOP conservatives. This proves doing the right thing never goes unpunished.

  • Anonymous

    Most DC trough feeders have been there way, way too long. Ted Cruz is right – the vast majority of the inbred career politicians jump into the cesspool and become tainted with the corruption and grand delusions of royalty. They forget for whom they work. Our country has been bankrupted by these people, yet they high five themselves and congratulate themselves as if they are doing a good job. Most couldn’t run a lemonade stand without bankrupting it. They definitely do not have our country’s best interests at heart and think they are the elite and we are the peasants. For the most part they all need to be ejected next election never to return again. 2014 midterms, sweep the debris out of DC; then on to 2016 vote out the rest of the vermin. We could do no worse if pimps, thugs and prostitutes were in charge (no disrespect to the latter for comparing you to politicians).

  • Anonymous

    Democrats – the party of dependency, delusions, divisiveness and dolts.

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Are you saying it is a fallacy to believe that going back to the original Constitution would allow people to own slaves or it is a fallacy to think it wouldn’t?

    If you think it would, could you please lay a finger on the Constitution where it would allow it?

    “Mr. Madison (James Madison Chief Architect of the Constitution)thought it wrong to admit in the Constitution the idea that there could be property in men.” ~Records of the Convention, August 25, 1787 =

    Title 8 Section 1401 is not an AMENDMENT to the Constitution, so it is meaningless when it comes to the natural born citizen clause.

    Here is a letter from John Jay to George Washington:

    “Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expresly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.” ~John Jay July 25, 1787

    There is no question as to what natural born Citizen means. Unless you believe that the Constitution is a living breathing document that means different things at different times.

    “I entirely concur in the propriety of resorting to the sense in which the Constitution was accepted and ratified by the nation. In that sense alone it is the legitimate Constitution. And if that is not the guide in expounding it, there may be no security” ~James Madison letter to Henry Lee, June 25, 1824

  • Anonymous

    You’ve got at least two things wrong here:
    (1) The original Constitution did not prohibit slavery, therefore it was legal. If this weren’t the case there would have been no need to abolish it with the 13th Amendment.
    (2) There is a question as to what natural born citizen means, or at least how the Founders defined it. If you have any document or know of any place in the Constitution where the term was clearly defined by the Founders please show me.
    And no, Title 8 Section 1401 is not an amendment to the Constitution. It “fills in the gaps” as it were which were left out of the original definition. The 14th Amendment specifically gave the legislators leeway in defining natural born citizenship.

  • Anonymous

    The admiration for Cruz seems to be growing, the more the libs and RINO’s rail about his exposure of their schemes and dreams to contain and control the more he seems to be able to fend them off with simple explanation and the opportunity to point out why they are destined to fail….Keep up the good work Senator and I think not wanting to be a DC hero is a great goal…..

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    You have admitted to not knowing the principles this federal government was founded on so it is no surprise you get so many things wrong. It also explains why you don’t see the dangers in what you are defending.

    The Constitution is not a dictionary so it does not define words.

    There is no point in continuing this with you, the facts, logic, and reason speak for themselves. I will end it here by leaving a couple links to articles that fully explain natural born citizen.

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-fallacies-of-congressional.html

    http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/category/natural-born-citizen/

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Good quote. Notice how he said, “Moral courage” and not “moral relativism courage”?

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    “Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” ~Benjamin Franklin

    Yes yes, everybody is a racist and filled with hate but you. You have played the race card one two many times, just like the Democrats from which you came.

    Going from voting for Obama in 2008 to Romney in 2012 is not a big leap if at all in the right direction. And most certainly does not make you a conservative.

    How did you vote for Mexicans, do you live in Mexico?

    Re: “If you got a problem with me bullying the bullies”

    Your moral relativism is on display, you always have an excuse/scapegoat for your uncivil manners and actions.

    Does that come from the teachings of Jesus Christ or the Bible? I don’t think it does and in fact, Jesus Christ taught the opposite of what you do. Shame on you.

    “Those who expect to be both ignorant and free, expect what never was and never will be.” ~Thomas Jefferson

  • Anonymous

    Rand Paul is already plotting on how to take Ted Cruz down.

    Up until Cruz’s shutdown antics, it was Rand Paul who had emerged as the new leader of the far right. Paul was getting all the press, love, and attention…
    But now Cruz is the golden boy.

    Does anyone honestly think Paul is just going to let that happen?

    Watch out for Rubio as well. He’s none too happy that his fifteen minutes ended prematurely.

  • landofaahs

    If you really want to change the political landscape, it’s not too difficult “IF” and I mean “IF” investors will divest themselves of ANY New York/Wall Street/ Liberal system when investing. We need to invest through foreign exchanges to starve the liberal U.S. exchange of New York. These New Yorkers are only interested in their bonuses, which is O.K., but I want to invest in a way that “PUNISHES” my enemies as Obama would say. We all know that DC is a whore, but it’s pimp is The New York Exchange. Starve it and it’s whore will move OUT.

  • greywolfrs

    You are so full of shit. So, tell me, were the Founders “far right?” Don’t answer, we know they were not. Cruz and Paul want to go back to following the Constitution and you label them as “far right.” You are an idiot of epic proportions.

  • greywolfrs

    Not at all, but by the 14th Amendment, they are…

  • Anonymous

    Ahhh, yes. The “Founders” and the Constitution. Always so central and integral to the arguments of the right. Well, those two things and the Bible…

    But not all of us hold this bizarre fetish for dead men and ancient texts.
    We will continue to move FORWARD.

  • greywolfrs

    That’s obvious, idiots like you want to throw away the very document that made this country great. You believe it should be thrown away simply because it is old. Unfortunately for you, some things never go out of style, like FREEDOM. It’s really too bad that left wing idiots like you can not see what you are doing. You think you will drag this country to the left without so much as a shot fired. The sad part is you have your head so far up your ass that you can not see that you are starting another civil war. By the way, you guys will lose that one too. Dipshit.

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Like everything else, they are twisting what the 14th Amendment says. It only addresses the naturalization of citizens, which is not the same as natural born citizen, and is in Congress’ power to do so.

    Congress can’t redefine the law by changing the definition of words to modern interpretations, even though they have with “General Welfare”. But that is only because We the People have allowed and tolerated it.

    If they want the natural born citizen clause nullified, they would have to draft an amendment specifically stating it’s removal.

    Since We the People keep electing and re-electing charlatans, we get bad laws with bad judicial interpretations.

  • Anonymous

    I want to thank you both for the material as well as putting up with my bloviating. I guess sometimes we don’t know nearly as much as we might think we do. I find those links really worthwhile and it seems I have a lot of learning to do. It’s also good to discuss and debate an issue without coming to verbal blows as so often happens with this topic, and again, thanks for your patience.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    Pot meet kettle sorry you set yourself up for that one now I am done. By the way the world is all Relative depending on someones world views.

  • Anonymous

    “You think you will drag this country to the left without so much as a shot fired”.

    We’ve been dragging this country to the left for decades… When do you start shooting?

    I mean, shouldn’t ObamaCare and gay marriage have been worth at least a few bullets?

  • greywolfrs

    What does gay marriage have to do with anything? Oh, I see, you are stereotyping again. The problem you have is not everyone fits into those nice, neat little boxes you are trying to put them in. I don’t give a rat’s ass about civil unions, they fall under the Constitution and have the same THREE rights I have: Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. They should also be free, as long as they are not hurting anyone or forcing anyone into to anything, they can knock themselves out.

    As far as Obamaocare, when the system collapses under the weight of the debt and deficits, who do you think are going to be the ones to start it? It will be those people you claim I need to convince. They will no longer be getting the handouts. When they have no food, housing or medical care it’s a done deal.

    By the way, you idiots have tried to drag this country to the left for decades, unfortunately, there are a lot of people who are waking up to your B S.

    You believe since no9 rounds have been fired that it will not happen, that is a foolish way to think. You are a fool of the highest order.

  • Anonymous

    ObamaCare will fail, yes. But that’s fine. It was only ever a stepping stone to the single payer system anyway.

    And I don’t deny that there will be some shots fired. I’m just asking WHEN? Your troops are old and grey, most are well past fighting age as it is. Shouldn’t that give you a sense of urgency?

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Now this is serious business and I ask you to put away your hostilities towards me for the moment and really listen.

    By saying the world is all Relative depending on someones worldviews, you are contradicting Christian belief and might as well be saying 2+2=5. After all, if it all depends on someones view, whose to say it is not?

    Whoever told you that is way off course and shouldn’t be listened to without due diligence.

    Please take the time to read this link to a short essay and really think about it, there is an important lesson for all.

    https://www.setonhome.org/2264/pragmatism-and-principle/

    The 3 predominate worldviews in America are Theism, Atheism, and Pantheism. Pragmatism is an off shoot of Relativism and both come from Pantheism. To simply illustrate the differences:

    “Let’s take an insect.

    Theism would see it as a creation of God for His own purpose in nature.

    Atheism would say it’s something that evolved on its own accidentally and for no particular reason fights for its own survival.

    Pantheism sees it as a life-wave itself evolving toward Godhood or a punishment for something.

    The agnostic says, “how should I know?””

    The choice is yours to correct course or not, I sincerely pray you will.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    Ok since your not hitting me over the head with a rock I will read this when I got the time sometime today.

  • RecycleThe TeaBags

    How can you even sift through the bullshit nonsense, to find something to latch onto? Or do you not even care…if Cruz says he’s an extremist, you follow him into the fire

  • http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Federal-government-of-3-branches.pdf The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Hi LAPhil,

    Your welcome and I really appreciate your kind words. I apologize for my curtness in the my last reply to you.

    Human nature doesn’t change, it may guise itself under different names but it is essentially the same form. The principles this country was founded on are as true as the day they were conceived.

    Slavery was wrong to begin with and we payed a heavy price for that sin and still are. In getting rid of it, there was no cut’n dry solutions, there were many complicated factors involved. To many to get into on a comment section.

    Just remember that neither the Declaration of Independence, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal” or Constitution, “We the People of the United States of America” mentions race. The framework was there to free the slaves.

    Have a good one and good luck in your studies,

    ~BTG

    “Human rights can only be assured among a virtuous people. The general government . . . can never be in danger of degenerating into a monarchy, an oligarchy, an aristocracy, or any despotic or oppresive form so long as there is any virtue in the body of the people.”
    ~George Washington

    “Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle! Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will. Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”
    –Frederick Douglass, August 4, 1857

  • Anonymous

    And Phil, while you’re talking about the Constitution, were you aware of the following re the Debt Ceiling that many TPers were so eager to breach?

    “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.
    —Amendment XIV, Section 4.”

    Your civility and intelligence will likely be lost on most of those who post on this site, btw.

  • Anonymous

    Well thank you for the kind words, but I think you may have missed my overall intent, which was to point out the Cruz is eligible to run for President, although I have since read some convincing arguments to the contrary. You could say I’m one of those TP’ers. Sorry.

  • greywolfrs

    Our troops are old and grewy? You are a complete fool if you believe that conservatives are all old.
    You will NEVER get single-payer in the US. If you want that I suggest you move to Europe.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, my dear studpuppy…
    Have you noticed what happens every time you guys use the word “NEVER”?
    Think about it for a minute.

    And I already have a place in Europe. A little apartment in Amsterdam. You can use it if you want. It’s like three and a half blocks from the red light district.
    And while we’re on the subject of Europe: next time you feel like complaining about taxes, remember that in the Netherlands you’ll be paying a 52% tax rate on any income above $70,000.
    No, I didn’t forget a zero. That’ seventy thousand, not seven hundred thousand. 52 percent tax rate on any income above seventy thousand.

    Are those sort of taxes coming here? Not for a while. But when it does you guys will FINALLY have a legit reason to whine about taxes. Because If I hear one more dweeb complaining about taxes when their rate is like 15% I’m gonna have a stroke.

  • greywolfrs

    Please have that stroke. Taxes are FAR too high. When one considers Fed taxes, State taxes, FICA, Sales Tax and a whole list of other taxes, then they are FAR too high. If the Feds were only spending o9n the actual powers given to them by the Constitution, there wouldn’t need to be such high taxes. I don’t really give two shits about the Netherlands or the rest of the world, they can go fuck themselves.

    Trust me, you will NEVER get single-payer. You better think about it for longer than a minute, as I know dolts like you need a lot of time for it to hit them.

    I noticed you didn’t bother to address yet another stereotype you like to use, that Conservatives are all old and grey. You know, you are better off just shutting your pie hole, because when you open it you look like an even bigger fool.

    It’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt.
    -Abraham Lincoln

  • Anonymous

    We’ll have single payer by 2030.

    Granted, that’s far too off in the future for most conservatives to plan for— I mean, they’ll be long gone by then—but we’ll have single payer by 2030.

  • Anonymous

    Leonard Pitts, columnist for the Miami Herald said today, “True
    believers in the tea Party thrive on rejection.
    Yay. Yippee. Woo-hoo, even.”

    Does this mean true believers in a “government forced healthcare insurance or pay a large fine law” thrive on applause? Yay. Yippee. Woo-hoo, even.

    He also said, “they can have purity or they can have power. They cannot have both.” Does this mean he believes you cannot expect virtue and power to be compatible?

  • Frank

    In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, and brave and
    hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for
    then it costs nothing to be a patriot. – Mark Twain

  • greywolfrs

    Again, you are trying to use the stereotype that all conservatives are old. Hey stupid, you do realize that most military personel are conservatives, right? Are they old? Keep opening your pie hole and showing your ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    TED CRUZ is a profile in courage

  • Anonymous

    They were certainly conservative back in my day. I was a Marine from 1988-1994 and at back then I’d say the military was at least 95% conservative.

    But in the last presidential election, exit polls from two states (Virginia and California) showed the military splitting their votes pretty much evenly between Mitt and Obama.

    And the last survey from the Military Times poll showed:

    42 percent of the military describing themselves as “conservative.” That’s down from 44 percent in 2006.

    Only 14 percent identify themselves as Democrat.

    25% identify themselves as Republican.

    18% have a favorable view of the Tea Party.

    25% identify as Independent.

    9% identify as Libertarian.

    Those numbers don’t add up perfectly of course, but that’s because some who identify as conservative DON’T identify as republican—they identify as either Independent or Libertarian or no real affiliation at all.

    I still have a lot of buddies in the Corps, and from what I’ve seen most young military people are like young people in general–they’re real political affiliation is: “Don’t Give A Fuck.”
    Seriously. Start talking to them about politics and they shrug and wave it off. Which is shocking because their lives are literally on the line. But that’s the way it is.

  • Anonymous

    * Edit: 41 percent identify as conservative, not 42 percent as I originally stated, but that’s so close it doesn’t really matter.

  • Benjamin Dover

    Since finding our niche was easier when we relied less upon technology, job-related stress tends to increase as civilization advances.

  • Benjamin Dover

    As surely as water will wet us, as surely as fire will burn, the lights of liberty are found in the pages you turn: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0094KY878

  • greywolfrs

    Not true, as I have 4 nephews who are serving or were recently discharged. I talk to them ALL THE TIME. You quote exit polls from virginia and CA? Please.

  • Anonymous

    Military institutions always tend to lean to the Right. Note the attributes prized by military organizations: bravery, loyalty, obedience, acceptance of hierarchy/authority, willingness to fight. All virtues we should value in those who defend us.

    What’s the significance politically? These traits are also the strengths of the TP and the GOP. What’s missing from that list of virtues is revealing: scholarship, intellect, independent/creative thinking. These are virtues more valued – and more common – on the Left than on the Right. It explains why the Right can win elections but can’t govern.

    Academics slant Left, in fact the higher the level of education beyond high school, the greater the likelihood of voting Left. Once you get to folks with graduate degrees, it’s even more slanted.

    People whose goal is to seek and acquire knowledge, who are more educated and independent or creative in their thinking are more likely to vote Left. You wish it were otherwise, but it’s not. Check it out for yourself. Remember, what Gump says – stupid is as stupid does.

  • greywolfrs

    Hey stupid, you missed the point. As Ed trys to spout the same left wing garbage about conservatives being old, I proved him wrong. Next time try mindiung your own business, you obviously have no idea what the conversation is about, but still feel the need to open your pie hole.

  • Anonymous

    Grey, if you post, it’s public. This is not a private discussion, you know that. I’m just adding a related thought to an interesting thread.

    Of course, you’re wrong. This is a statistic that’s well-known and documented, not even controversial. The only question is: why is it so?

    Now, if you had the intellectual curiosity appropriate to the courage of your convictions, you would check it out for yourself…just google it and see what you find.

    BTW, Who is Landree? Why do you think I’m posting as someone else?

  • greywolfrs

    So, let me get this straight, you jump into a conversation, don’t have the first clue what the point was and then make some moronic comment that does not even pertain to the discussion.
    How is it that some B S about education level relates to Ed making stereotypical comments about Conservatives? On what planet do those two things relate? Ed continues to make the same old comments about Conservatives being old, needing hoverounds and dying soon, but some how you think your moronic tangent relates to that.
    If you had any intellectual honesty, you would realize that the studies you quote are complete B S. You would admit that, like polls, those studies can be skewed very easily. Just like polls, it depends on who is asked the question and what manner the question is framed.
    By the way, why would I ever use google, those left wing dolts can jump off a bridge.
    OK, pretend like you don’t know who Landree is, but…

  • Guest

    Apparently you missed a recent study that showed that people who identified with the T Party scored higher than those on the left in intellectual and scientific matters.

    ” …the higher the level of education beyond high school, the greater the likelihood of voting Left…..” This is due to the fact that college promotes open, liberal, creative, exploratory, thinking without any structure or logical boundaries, or common sense. These are things that are learned through life later, when away from the influences of liberal education.

    For the most part, your assumptions, claims and cherry picked (contrived) adjectives are just self serving. It is almost passive aggressive – a way to veil your taunts.

  • Anonymous

    No, I’m aware of that fact about the TP, but your post misses the point and your subsequent remarks about the influence of a college education are…so bizarre and off base that that it’s hard to believe you wrote them. This discussion may be too complex for you, but I’m happy to make it a thread as my time permits.

    Within any given demographic, higher level of education tends to correlate with inclination to vote Left. The reason this is important is that political inclination is primarily a demographic phenomenon, i.e. it tends to be mostly driven by culture. Humans are driven far more by emotions than intellect, and our need to be accepted by the culture with which we identify generally overrides cognitive dissonance. That’s the larger context that you and GreyWoof don’t see. The Right in general, esp the TP, suffers from epistemic closure, however if you don’t understand the concept, you won’t see that, and you’ll simply think my point is intellectual b.s.

    If you’re not as averse to Google as Grey, just look up all the studies and think about it.

  • Voltaire
  • Anonymous

    Those two ideas are kissing cousins on the planet that exists right outside your dyspeptic imagination. Paranoia tends to destroy the mind from the inside.

    Sayonara!

  • greywolfrs

    Not really, but hey, continue to try and connect dots that do not exist. I find it funny that idiots like you believe that the socialist utopia exists and YOU can get there, then say something like this to anyone else. Idiot.

  • greywolfrs

    You are laughing at me, as you send a link to twitter? The joke is on you and you are too dumb to know it.

  • Anonymous

    Grey, do you believe only in reality as it exists inside your head? Or do you recognize the existence of others with differing viewpoints?

  • greywolfrs

    It’s funny you ask that, as you and life partner, vicki tiffany the coward, are the biggest bigots that come to this site. You both think you are the smartest people to have lived. Wake up and smell what you are shoveling, hypocrite.

  • Anonymous

    I think that means “No,” and then “Yes” (+ insult).

    What do you do for a living?

  • Anonymous

    Listening to people, by definition, is not saying something substantial