Harry Reid pulls the trigger on “nuclear option”, Senate strikes down 225 years of precedent

The Senate has voted 52-48 to invoke the so-called ‘nuclear option’. The decision strikes down a long-standing filibuster rule that applies to most presidential nominations. As the Washington Post reported, a passage alters nearly 225 years of precedent. The change allows for the confirmation of executive branch nominees and most federal judiciary selections with a simple majority.

TheBlaze has additional coverage of the ‘nuclear option’ passage HERE.

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“What you are seeing happening in Washington, D.C. today is the undermining of our republic. It is the weakening of our republic. It was wrong when the Republicans tried to do it, it is wrong today,” Glenn said on radio this morning. “Harry Reid has just proposed that they stop the filibuster. Now you need 60 votes to stop a filibuster. He says that’s too high of a bar. He have wants it to be 50 votes. Then what good is a filibuster?”

Ironically, the very people who were against the nuclear option when the Republicans controlled the Senate are now that one’s fighting for its passage.

“Where are the people of principle? Where are the people who said, ‘This is wrong’ when their party tied to do it. Where are those people,” Glenn asked. “Those are the people I want to hear from because, again, a guy who’s leading the bandwagon, the guy that’s totally for it is the President of the United States.”

In 2005, then-Senator Barack Obama had this to say about the filibuster:

I am also aware the Founding Fathers established the filibuster as a means of protecting the minority from the tyranny of the majority, and that protection, with some changes, has been in place for over 200 years.

It looks like times have changed.

“Is there anybody that actually believes in something,” Glenn asked somberly. “Answer: Yes – you.”

Front page image courtesy of the AP

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  • Anonymous

    This is just horrible.

    What next — ending presidential term limits by Obama/Reid fiat? Get rid of that 22nd Amendment because it isn’t fair?

    The Democrats are desperate and changing the rules to fit an agenda means that they are unlikely to stop there.

    And they will crush any one and any thought that gets in the way.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    This has been done for one main reason…

    To ensure that as many activist, socialist, and radical justices are placed in the Federal vacancies to ensure the leftist agenda is preserved and even advanced by the courts when the legislative branch fails to do so.

    Harry Reid has pulled off a long-range strategic coup, and usurped control of the Senate from any minority groups who might have challenged his power.

    The Democrats are growing truly desperate, and we will only see the nightmare grow worse by the hour.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Probably, and I do expect Obama to order lethal force used against his opponents and the American people at any time.

  • Anonymous

    What was one of the actions that made George Washington great? He relinquished power peacefully at the appropriate time and let the Republic work as designed. Today, apparently, some people with power do not like how the Republic works.

  • Anonymous

    Just like the Democratic abortion agenda: silence the cries of unwanted and the minority.

  • JmcBoots

    Boy are they going to be howling about this in 13 months when they loose control of the Senate and THEY become the minority.

  • Kyle Clark

    This is the beginning of the end. This is paving way so liberals and the president have no road blocks. This will allow them to do what they want.

  • 1TrueOne55

    Is this a setup for an Obama busting of the term limits agreement of the 50′s????

  • James Ira Colley

    Mr Beck, you are spot on. I have an ” idea” might help spark the needed reset for our great couhtry. and make the 2 party system work. I am not with one party or another. I am a blue collar worker and have a deep love for our countries way of life. If you see this comment. Please get intouch with me and I will share this radical idea.

  • Anonymous

    Why hasn’t the LDS church excommunicated Harry Reid.. its so obvious he is what Ezra Taft Benson warned us about! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DHFmnOf_Sc

  • Rhonda Kelley (nee Williams)

    Recall Harry Reid! Along with anyone who voted for this.

  • Rhonda Kelley (nee Williams)

    Levi Preston, a young soldier fighting the War of Independence against formidable British troops, said: “What we meant in going
    after those redcoats was simple. You see, we had
    always governed ourselves, we always intended to
    govern ourselves, and they didn’t mean that we
    should.”
    MAYBE IT’S TIME TO GO AFTER THOSE “REDCOATS” AGAIN.

  • Art Diamond

    just close it down in January.

  • Anonymous

    This country needs a governmental enema. I’m finding it harder to find anyone in office that I trust or support. What happened to our Constitution, and our fundamental rights. I’m simply tired of all these officials thinking they know what is best for us. It’s about time for real change, not what Obama was jaw jacking about 5 years ago. I’m talking about real change, one that doesn’t destroy our country!!!!

  • Anonymous

    All democrats, with few exceptions, need a one way ticket out of DC never to hold public office again. This maneuver is just the latest in their long history of governing against the will of the people. The democrats foisted obamascam onto the country, without even bothering to read it, then want to exempt their elite selves. They are out of touch and high five themselves, while doing a miserable job for the country. Spend, tax, fritter away our money, pandering to illegals, feeding at the public trough for decades for many, thinking they are royalty and we are the serfs. Have you had enough America??

  • Anonymous

    By the democrat changing the senate rules to strip power away from republicans senators for the 1st time in history , this makes the democrat party a Statist party and maybe the republicans should refer to the democrats as a national socialist democrat party .

    By far left Harry Reid actions & senate democrats actions , the democrats have validated the critics that said the democrats were a divisive party that will not compromise (the proof is the huge power grab that statists democrats employed today ).

    They democrats have exploited the historic nature of this President for huge political & corporatist power grabs (like the oppressive nationalized health & finance, croonies , government spending on dnc groups, extreme judge appoitments , etc ) ..

  • Elle Fagan

    If our President would do as he should and address and resolve the nation’s issues, instead of the things he is doing, we could be more supportive. He is turning his good mind down the wrong roads and in the wrong direction, then he wonders when he is unable to be effective.

  • Griff Thundersnow

    You look like you’re playing a game with that scarf bro… Just sayin

  • Daniel Gary

    I’m as disgusted with the Republicans making their threats as I am with the Democrats for doing this. There is zero honor left in DC.

  • Anonymous

    The Time has Come for a Constitutional Convention……………

  • samiam

    the question is this; will the voters see this for what it is? And will we take appropriate action to get these people out of office?

  • Anonymous_Texas

    There is no reason to change these rules unless you have plans to stack the deck with people who will vote in your favor and take your side and do your bidding.

    The article from Fox news and even people commenting here have said that Democrats will regret this when they are no longer in the majority. They are fooling themselves. The Republican and Tea Party members will never get to use this power because this is the last piece of the puzzle for Mr Obama to suspend the constitution due to some tragic event that will require him to remain is office until we “get through it”.

    I would suggest that this should be taken to the SCOTUS but I doubt they will do anything since most of them are already complicit with the plans of the executive branch.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    So let me get this right Harry the moron Reid decided to do something that he claim would end the universe if the Republicans did it under Bush? What a liar he just wanted the power for his side first. It was bad when Republicans where pushing it and it is still a bad Idea now words cannot express the stupidity of the liberals because guess what is going to happen when the Republicans take back the senate in 2014. You fools will have more problems on your hands besides not getting a few socialist hacks on what ever broad you where trying to fill.

  • Anonymous_Texas

    In reality this is the end of the end. The beginning of the end started 110 years ago. This is just one more blow to our republic. Eventually we will have one blow to many and this wonderful country of ours will devolve into all out socialism, run by a tyrant.

  • nick krall

    Backlash against 5 years of GOP Obstructionism. Is anybody surprised? The GOP planted the seed and has nurtured it for five years, saying the GOP’s top priority is to recapture a majority of seats in the senate and to take the presidency, and NOT to compromise or cooperate in any way with the Prez or the Dems in legislation or on nominations. Now the mighty oak they’re growing is about to fall on their own. In the big picture, it’s not a good thing. In the short-term, it probably is. The GOP should share half, or more of the blame.

  • landofaahs

    Yet another example as to why democrats cannot be trusted. You can keep your doctor and your insurance if you like it. I guess ivory tower democrats don’t have to obey the rules like you and I, they just make the laws , they don’t follow them. How do you like that hope and change now folks?

  • Marie Hopman

    whoever wrote this article needs a proof reader

  • Anonymous

    There is nobody to stop them except the American people and that is not happening in large enough numbers to even put a dent in the corruption in Washington DC.
    The Alkinski plan has worked beautifully, it took a bit longer than planned but with the 2nd term it’s rolling along on track now. This could get real ugly if people ever decide to fight back. Either way, I weep for my country, the America I knew and loved is gone forever and WE let it happen !

  • Anonymous_Texas

    The short answer is No. The slightly longer answer is, Look at history. The Republicans wanted this in the not so distant past and now they have found a way to get the Democrats to do it for them. Now the Dems take all the blame, the Repubs take back a majority (if Obama doesn’t kill term limits with a simple majority, or declare himself king) and everyone is happy. Why? Because both parties are working to the same end, just on slightly different roads. Wake up America, the two party system is a sham, and it is all set up to take over and convert our once great Republic into a Socialist state.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not a question of IF but WHEN. No matter how this ends, America will never be the same and many in certain groups will welcome it.
    This was bound to happen when the number of takers was almost equal to the producers. We ALL end up as a 2nd world nation except the elites who will rule by force. THIS is the fundamental transformation the majority of voters wanted. Twice !!

  • Anonymous

    Put a fork in the USA!

  • Anonymous

    It may soon be time to sell everything and get out of the USA and go ??? NZ perhaps or we stay and make a last stand to save our once great nation.

  • Anonymous

    What lame reasons by Obama/Reid. If the Dems do not get their way it will *always* be “obstructionism”, “hostage taking”, “extortion”, “ransom demand”, etc. Why? The word “progressive” in their thinking means moving forward. Period. It doesn’t matter to them if they do it blindly, uncompromisingly, lyingly, violently — if necessary. They do not tolerate anything getting in the way of the march over crushed bodies and burning cities to some sort of evolving mirage of Utopia at which they will never arrive.

  • Anonymous

    Begin the first word of a sentence with a capital letter. End a sentence with a period. The word proofreader is one word.

  • Daniel Petry

    Call them Fedcoats

  • Anonymous

    Really? Just because the Democrats have an agenda that is being slowed down by their own incompetence is no reason to increase their incompetency.

  • J M

    WOW that’s dangerous on the dipsh*ts part, even ABC and NBC are saying the Dems ratings are in free fall and November is just a year away. Do you think they’ll have the DEMOCRATECARE website fixed and everyone will be happy with how affordable their insurance is? The Republicans only need 6 of the 16 Senate seats up for grabs then they have a majority and were handed a loaded gun. Dumba$%!!!

  • J M

    there is no amount of voter fraud that will get him elected a 3rd time. Even ABC and NBC are scolding him.

  • Cordirose

    Don’t think that they aren’t thinking about it. This is just a preliminary step.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe they think that the Republicans will never win again. Through fraud and deception of course, it worked well in 2012.

  • Anonymous

    No. We have a Constitution. It is a good Constitution. It needs to be followed. We still have the power to get them to follow the Constitution if people will sit up and do this.
    At the last Constitutional Convention in 1787, they were just going to revise a few things. They throw the whole thing out and started over. Under the state our country, morals, and so forth are in today, a Constitutional Convention could create any form of government they decided – and I guarantee, it will not be what those of us who value our rights and liberties guaranteed under our Constitution would want.

  • Fred Oates

    Reelect NOBODY!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for sharing this insightful audio message from decades ago.

  • Anonymous

    Most of the voters do not understand what is happening and the Republicans
    ,

  • carpkiller

    who voted for each side?

  • Anonymous

    need a major PR campaign to polish their image. They need to explain what is going on in this country, so even the dumbest person will understand what this and other power grabs by the Liberals will mean for the future of this country. It took almost 50 years to get rid of the Communist in East Germany. Look how long they have been in Cuba, in Russia and China. The Republicans need a better strategy to stop the curse which has befallen this nation.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry something went wrong, I could not post the rest. I meant to say the Republicans need a better PR campaign to counter all the Liberal lies.

  • http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

    look at that stinky, wrinkled smelly face of Reid and you can see the evil that lurks in his heart, this man would be a pauper if he had to work for a living

  • Guest

    It’s about time Reed grew a pair to mow down the reactionary obstruction.

  • Anonymous

    This is quite obviously a ploy to take over all three branches of government so that the government will be able to commit forcible rape of the constitution without judicial interference. Liberals drool over the possibility of a judiciary bursting at the seams with revisionist judges who are simply yes men for leftist, progressive causes no matter the will of the people or the restrictions of the constitution.

    They know that there is a significant possibility that they will soon be losing power. This is their way of trumping any fight. Folks, this has to STOP!! Enough is enough. It’s like watching rabid wolves tear a deer to pieces while it is still alive. There is simply nothing that they will stop at. They are determined to see the implementation of legal precedent that completely removes the dignity of the individual and instead, invests all of the capital of the nation in sacrifice of the individual to the needs of the thugs comprising the collective.

    I’ve never talked about violent overthrow of the US government, but I am astounded at the rapidity with which progressive, leftist goon squads have upended the freedoms that define the very heart of this nation. If we don’t do something soon, it will matter little what we do – it will simple be too late because when they judiciary and the executive conspire to concentrate power only in the hands of those who agree with them, we cannot win within the law. They do not understand the concept of freedom, but, like all animals, they CAN learn to know the meaning of fear.

  • Anonymous

    So, if the senate majority shifts to the Republicans after the 2014 elections, you’ll still support the nuclear option, right? You’ll be happy if the democrats become the minority and CANNOT use the filibuster to level the playing field? But hey, you’re a liberal…you don’t have to think.

  • Anonymous

    He won’t need a vote. He’ll decree martial law because Obamacare isn’t working and the economy hasn’t recovered and it’s due to those pesky conservatives. He’s a dictator already…

  • mofotot

    We in the church have wondered the same thing and can only conclude that if they did it would make the church appear to be politically involved when they want to stay politically neutral and only worry about saving souls. But this is becoming now not about political parties but about good versus evil so at some point I think they are going to have to take a stand and renounce someone like Harry Reid. He is a disgrace and I’m ashamed to have him be a mormon, he does not represent us.

  • Anonymous

    But the damage that they can do in 13 months….that worries me.

  • Anonymous

    I believe thats exactly where this is all headed,….people are growing very angry,..and they are protesting and with the Obamacare failing, and I believe it was designed to fail,…..the pieces are all falling together,…and he will appoint himself as the new dictator…..God help Us All.

  • Anonymous

    Obama shredded that constitution…. he will take over now,. completely,…Who is going to stop him ??

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand a lot of this myself,..I think I know more than a lot of the younger generations, but I do know we have at least 13 months where the Demorats can do a lot of bad things,..but yes you are right a lot of this needs to be explained to people in a way that they will understand whats going on and how serious this is. I just wish there was a way to legally stop this administration to converting this once great country over to a communist country run by a Dictator,…and in all my years I never thought I would see the day that all of this would be taking place.. …Its almost like seeing our bald eagle being shot down. The country needs a miracle,,,…there has got to be something that the people can do?????

  • jo blo

    So ignore the bastards. That’s what the next conservative administration needs to do. Tell them to enforce their rulings.

  • http://drudgereport.com/ Myles Standish

    “THIS is the fundamental transformation the majority of voters wanted. Twice !!”

    I was with you until the end. I don’t believe for a single moment that a true “majority” voted for obama’s second term. Very possibly not even his first, either. I believe the appearance of a majority voted for this treasonous muslim monarch.

    There is so much juicy fraud just laying out there waiting to be uncovered, but sadly, the Woodward’s and Bernstein’s of the world are in convenient and/or cowardly hibernation until a true conservative gains the White House….at which time they will resume their unwritten fourth estate duties with hypocritical gusto not seen since Nixon!

  • http://drudgereport.com/ Myles Standish

    Drones standing by…..awaiting your orders, Mr. Presidente!!

  • http://drudgereport.com/ Myles Standish

    Unfortunately, Washington D.C. has become a testicle-free zone.

  • Tammy Ringler

    What’s good for the goose will be good for the gander in 2014 when the Republicans take over the Senate.

  • B-Funk

    It’s always darkest before the dawn. Stuff like this really makes me feel like victory is near for the good guys. The question is, how much scorched earth will there be?

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Depends, if Obama orders the debt to be defaulted upon, and declares martial law, we can see the total collapse of the nation across the board.

    Right now we have to leave it in God’s hands, and follow his guidance. And pray, that we do what needs to be done in accord with His plans and will.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Or through martial law.

  • Anonymous

    If the Republicans go down that road, then Obama will have won anyway. His goal is to, by precedent, amend the constitution by precedent. He is doing this by ignoring the parts he doesn’t like, and through misuse of executive orders that are, by custom and precedent only supposed to use it for simple policy decisions, not to interfere in the legislative process. If the Republicans turn around and retaliate, the precedent will be set firmly in place forevermore.
    This fight has to be done by legislation once the president is gone. Until a truly conservative president is elected, the only thing the Republicans can do is dig in their heels and delay and resist.

  • Nathan Burtner

    Well what did you think they were going to do? The problem with this Congress is the tyranny of the Minority.

  • Anonymous

    We seem to be stuck in a nightmare. We sure need a miracle to get us out of this quagmire. Every time I think it can not get worse another horror story comes to light!

  • Anonymous

    Do you or ANY leftist EVER think of yourselves as anything but victims? Even when your guys are the ones running the show, it’s tyranny that anyone would dare disagree with them or their tactics. Anytime something goes wrong, it’s the fault of those on the other side of the aisle. The disaster that has become Obamacare is the Republicans’ fault, NOT the president’s. And he never lies about anything. He’s just misunderstood. After all, he only finds out about things at the same time as the American people and if Republicans weren’t so mean, then everything would have worked perfectly. The fact that your side actually thinks that’s going to work speaks to just how ridiculous your beliefs are. Please…keep acting like a victim. I’m sure you’re a VERY successful person when you’re not actually whining….NOPE.

  • Waine Ross

    Martial law is a good boogy man. But it would fail miserably, within days. 1. Logistics. The united states survives on trucks and train conveyance of food and goods. As soon as interstates and railroad tracks are blocked, cities would starve in a matter of days. There is no more dangerous human than a mother or father watching their child go hungry. 2. The very forces they would be using, about half are not as fanatically as they need to be to blindly enforce martial law.

  • Waine Ross

    hrmm we forget it often…but the Federal government is 51 states in coalition. I, and pretty much everyone else, assumes texas will be the first to secede out of the train wreck, quickly followed by the rest of the southern gulf states and most of our central plains states. Then we will reunionize, new name, new constitution(probably the old one just reworded slightly for current age), and go on about our lives. I do not see a civil war in our future. I see a reconsolidation of like-minded states(countries) into a new and more prosperous union. And we can just buy the other states after socialism drives them bankrupt. Not an issue.

  • joe michael villa

    Hey Glenn,
    in 2005 we didn’t have the tea party Taliban obstructing every nomination.
    times change, people change.

    the tea party/ GOP were warned to stop their games.
    they will reap what they have sown.

  • joe michael villa

    Oh shut up, you were warned to stop your childish games for the past 5 years.

    Enough is enough.

    Democracy now reigns in the Senate.
    You brought this upon yourselves.

    You can’t gerrymander the Senate like you can Congress, so you have no hope taking over the Senate in 2014.

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations Harry Reid, you have just succeeded in making the United States Senate politically irrelevant and a mere pawn of the Executive branch. Never mind that your action is in direct violation of the United States Constitution and its specific enumeration of the Senate’s duty to advise and consent to appointments. After all, isn’t allegiance to Lord Barack and His Agenda the most important thing in your puny little life?

    Mr. Reid, I would suggest you practice saying the words “Heil Obama.” That will soon be the fashionable way for the Washington elite to greet each other.

  • joe michael villa

    we’re not worried.
    you can gerrymander the Senate like you’ve done with Congress.

    America saw you were all about when you shut down the government.
    they don’t want a taliban tea party government.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. And isn’t this just a modern instance of the application of methods used by a certain stupidly-mustached Austrian to take over the government of Germany when no one was looking?? He packed the courts, he changed the laws, and all of a sudden there was full-blown fascism. Sounds like Barry is actually reading a history book or two.

  • Anonymous

    Do you want this bunch of ninnies, apes and sycophants to get anywhere NEAR the supreme law of the land?!?!

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Ah, Biden the clown I assume?

    No matter, in 2014 the Democrats fall, and fall due to their own devastating miscalculation on Obamacare.

    And remember, a law can be made, and it can be repealed. Go to China if you love communism that much.

  • B-Funk

    I believe you’re absolutely right. I keep telling those around me that sometimes God allows it to get so bad so that when we’re saved we know it’s not us, but God, that saved us, and we glorify him. Either way, the only people we can control is ourselves, and I plan on peaceful resistance. It’s in God’s hands now. And what better hands could there be? ^_^

  • Anonymous

    So if Republicans take over in 2014, you’re okay with them keeping the rule exactly the same so that democrats can’t possibly block any judicial appointments by a simple majority, right? Because that could happen as early as 2014. Are you going to say anything when that happens? Or will you just meekly accept the inevitable results of the tables being turned? Or is it your opinion that democrats will never lose power in the senate again, so they will never have to worry about being subject to the consequences of their actions? Somehow, it’s hard to believe that any of you leftist progressives operate on anything but situational morality, meaning that, in your world, there’s no such thing as hypocrisy or lying by your side because the end ALWAYS justifies any means.

  • Anonymous

    You are an idiot of the greatest magnitude. The shut down was caused by none other than Harry Reid who hasn’t sent a constitutionally required budget to the president for the last 5 years. And for all you conservatives who think Boehner folded, he did it so you could enjoy one last Xmas and New Year before the Bummer declares martial law.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, how’d that “I refuse to compromise” thing work out for you? After all, just because everything that Ted Cruz has predicted has come true and the fact that the white house knew the website wasn’t even finished, yet still released it doesn’t smack of either incompetence or idiocy, does it? After all, the only thing we hear on the news is anger at the Republicans for having shut down the government. People are always very forgiving when their insurance is canceled, their premiums raised, their deductibles raised and their coverage limited, all coupled with the fact that there’s no possible way for them to access replacement insurance. But hey, you’ll still have your medicaid so what do you care? But keep cheering and claiming victory. It’s all working GREAT!!

  • Anonymous

    Save it for who??? all the free loading trash??? no thanks… they aren’t worth it.

  • Anonymous

    That moron just wants to see the whole world come apart. He’s the quintessential leftist. No factual basis for their beliefs, no common sense, no sense of morality, just an insatiable hunger for chaos.

  • Watch it

    Check this out http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/harry-reids-dirty-laundry/

    It tells about Reid’s connections to the “mob”, about his receiving mob bribes as Head of the Nevada Gaming Commission.

    “I’ve gotta Cleanface in my pocket.”

    “Cleanface was the codename Agosto gave Reid. At the time, Reid was chairman of the all powerful Nevada Gaming Commission.

    One of his first acts [as chairman of the NGC] was to approve the sale of the Hacienda Hotel/Casino to an individual named Paul Lowden despite objections by the state’s Gaming Control Board having to do with “hidden associates” of Lowden’s. Lowden later gave $6,000 in campaign contributions to Reid. (54); (55)

    Reid also led the Nevada Gaming Commission in approving a deal that allowed associates of Agosto to skim money from the Tropicana. What’s more, Reid also approved applicants for some projects proposed by the Del Webb Corporation, also known to be connected to mobsters Bugsy Siegel and Meyer Lansky. (56)

    Indeed, Reid’s tenure on the Nevada gaming Commission appears to have involved approving quite a few projects for people with mob
    connections. Moreover, it was Jimmy Carter’s Justice Department which “cleared” Reid of the charge of accepting mob bribes. This was a highly politicized department that was also unable to come up with any prosecutions in the Billygate, KoreaGate, ABSCAM, or BCCI scandals, despite massive evidence of corruption. (57)

    It was Mob attorney and sometime Reid business partner, Jay Brown, who was accused of funneling casino money to Reid to influence his votes on the Gaming Commission. FBI informants had fingered Brown but when the grand jury questioned him, he took the fifth and refused to turn over the financial records for the Tropicana Casino, for whom he served as counsel. As a result of Brown’s obstructionism, the Justice Dept probe ended up going nowhere. For years after this, Brown was a heavy donor to Reid. (58); (59)

    Essentially, Reid now has a political career and is able to claim he
    was never charged with bribery, all because the jury refused to believe an FBI information [sic] AND due to his buddy, Jay Brown, taking the fifth. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Reid’s honesty.

    Reid has accepted money from many mob-connected people:

    Morris Shenker, a mob attorney associated with the St. Louis Mafia, Meyer Lansky, Jimmy Hoffa and the Dunes Hotel. He funneled campaign money to Reid through his daughter Patty.

    Moe Dalitz, associated with the Cleveland mob. He gave Reid $1,500.

    Irwin Molasky & Merv Adelson. These were Dalitz partners in the Rancho La Costa development. Molasky has given at least $15,000 to Read and Adelson have given at least $40,000 to either Reid, his leadership committee or the DSCC which Reid controls.

    Ed & Fred Doumani, associated with the Chicago Mob, gave at least $6,000 to Reid and the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee.

    Kirk Kerkorian, former owner of Caesar’s Palace, has Mob ties and gave over $100, 000 to Reid or DSCC.

    Steve Wynn, connected to the Genovese mafia family, gave Reid at least $19,000.

    Sam & Edgar Bronfman. Sam was a bootlegging associate of Meyer Lansky. Edgar is his son. Both have made substantial contributions to Reid.

    Joseph Alioto. Alioto is a San Francisco politician related to Milwaukee Mafia boss John Alioto and was implicated in the Koreagate bribe scandal. He is his wife gave $5,000 to Reid. (60); (61)”

    There is a lot more dirty laundry for Harry “the Weasel” Reid. Just check out the site http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/harry-reids-dirty-laundry/

  • joe michael villa

    People don’t like obstruction. This filibustering of these nominees was done for no other reason than to not allow Obama to fill these Court positions. Never mind the backlog and the emergency on the in our Court System because of this obstruction, republicans don’t care.

    These were centrist, well qualified nominees who have better resumes than most in the Congress. They certainly haven’t been arrested and convicted of cocaine possession, like one recent working Republican Congressman has. And he still has his job. Yet, these Judges who have led an upstanding life and career are passed over by people like that Congressman. It is obscene. There is absolutely no reason why they should not be confirmed.

    The minority party has just guaranteed that they have exactly ZERO input on these nominees. Simple majority rules, and they can’t do anything about it. You did it to yourself, deal with it.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with the qualifications of those nominees, like the fact that everyone he nominates is a revisionist committed to legislating from the bench rather than interpreting the law. I’m really disappointed in you. I fully expected to hear the race card pulled by now. You’re slipping.

  • joe michael villa

    compromise?
    the tea party doesn’t know the meaning of compromise.

  • joe michael villa

    you are not in charge.
    America voted and they kept the Dems in charge.

    you were warned to stop your games and stop filibustering all of our Presidents nominees.
    you’re going to pay for what you’ve done.

  • Anonymous

    he can’t end term limits. 22th amendment….. to repeal it requires the repeal to be ratified by at least 39 states.

  • joe michael villa

    well you maybe you shouldn’t of screwed up the country when you elected George Bush for 8 years. but you did and now you must deal the consequences of that administrations actions.

    you don’t run this country. you had your chance and you screwed it up.

  • Anonymous

    there is a way… It’s called a Constitutional Convention. All US Reps, US Sens, the President and the Supreme Court are forbidden to take part in it. The States elect or appoint delegates and it’s actions are just as binding as the original Constitutional Convention.

  • joe michael villa

    nope, just your world.

    I rarely watch Faux News but it was fun watching tonight.

    I thought Sean Hannity was going to have a coronary.

    it was Priceless!

    They keep saying ‘what goes around comes around.’

    Well yea…the GOP has made life in the US difficult, and now, the US is going to make it difficult for the GOP.

    The bed that Reid put them in today…was made by the GOP.

  • Anonymous

    For now, people can still vote. I wouldn’t be so quick to proclaim “exactly ZERO input”. The “can’t do anything about it” attitude confirms what was suspected all along and even then they blame the Republicans.

  • Anonymous

    Do you see yourself in them?

  • Anonymous

    Other than that, all you can do is take a cue from the French. Study their history.

  • Anonymous

    Warnings? Threats?

    The world wants to see what will be paid. Tell us. Show them. Show them who you really are.

  • joe michael villa

    oh yeah.
    don’t blame the dems.

    so tired of the tea party obstructionist.
    America has had enough.

  • joe michael villa

    Don’t care if you don’t like it.

    Don’t care what you think about it.

    Don’t care if it offends you.

    In fact, I hope it drives you tbaggers to do even more stooopid things so we can totally crush you in 2014.

    Nominate away Harry Reid and President Obama.
    Make sure they are left leaning, Communist, Socialist, Marxist carrying card members.

    Democracy reigns in the Senate.
    priceless!

  • Anonymous

    We have the same problem within the Catholic Church to a great extent: Biden, Pelosi, Sebelius, They have all bought into the “social justice” idea and somehow they think they are doing good by permitting, perhaps unwittingly, evil. They may not wear their faith on their sleeves but I do hope they still know the difference between Truth and Lies.

  • Anonymous

    LOL…apparently you don’t know the rules reguarding a constitutional convention.. all US Reps, US Sens, the Executive branch and Supreme court are forbidden to participate in or influence the convention in any way. The states elect or appoint the delegates.,

  • Anonymous

    Counter lies with Truth. If the people decide that they don’t care or want to listen to Truth, then Lies they shall covet. Liars give the people everything they ask for. Want for nothing and the Liars will have nothing to give.

  • Anonymous

    All it would take is an amendment stating that the constitution is the literal law of the land and is not open to interpretation on any level. Oh, I forgot the retroactive part.. to get rid of all laws and regulations that are in conflict with this amendment. That should just about cover all our problems……..ohhhh…. and I’d like to see another amendment stating that the federal government is denied the power or authority to absolve any person or entity of responsibility for the consequences of that persons or entity’s choices and /or actions.

  • Anonymous

    Or a Supreme Court “ruling” that the amendment is unconstitutional because it violates the 14th (Equal Protection Clause) amendment. I can see it coming.

  • Anonymous

    What are the Republicans/Tea Party obstructing?

  • Dave S

    Everyone forgets that asshole changed the rules to get Obamacare enacted.. Also they are all over the news falling back on they won the election as a way of concreting Obamacare in our lives. All the news folk including Beck have overlooked we regained the house and Scott Walker was elected specifically to stop Obamacare and they went back door on the American people…. These people need to go

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely right. I guess Soros told him how it was done in the old country. Scary isn’t it, because most people do not know what is coming at them. They do not know history.

  • Anonymous

    I read that you don’t care, that you hope people to do stooopid things and be crushed.

    Remember, what *you* hope for will not matter (actually will be subversive) in a Communist, Socialist, Marxist environment. You will have no hope.

  • Anonymous

    What you think and do will not matter in a Socialist, Marxist society. Best think and do what they desire you to think and do or you will have no place in their world.

  • Anonymous

    amendments are the constitution and can’t be declared unconstitutional. They can only be removed by repeal which requires at least 39 states to ratify.

  • landofaahs

    All tradition is subject to review including secession. Nothing is ever settled law or tradition. One wonders how much the real American’s will put up with liberal crap.

  • Jackleen Leviathanis

    God only helps those who help themselves never take that for granted saying it is in gods hands only gives you a scape goat when it all goes wrong :)

  • Anonymous

    I’m being a bit silly. Some of the SCOTUS opinions have me baffled and am thinking that the Constitution is being abused by these “creative” opinions.

  • Kimberly Jane Baldwin

    The clown face seems appropriate for you….

  • Kimberly Jane Baldwin

    Are you so sure about that? The Tea Party is NOT the tiny edge group that Obama has made them out to be. They are growing rapidly…or are you not aware that Obama has a 36% approval rating? Why do you supposed that is, huh?

  • C Bauer

    This brings to mind a great quotation from Thomas Jefferson. Something to do with a tree and what it must be fed every so often…

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    scared yet?

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Let’s see, Harry Reid and Obama once supported the use of the filibuster to protect the minority parties rights to be heard, and most of Obama’s nominations have been passed through the Congress with no problems.

    So Harry Reid willfully and deliberately used the nuclear option as a means to ramrod through radical justices from here on out, and to silence all debate on the matter from the opposition…

    Something that never occurred under Bush, and has not occurred in 225 years.

    And of course you forget all of the leftist Senators and House members who still owe years of taxes, and have committed crimes that anyone else would be in jail for, but still continue to hold their jobs.

    We have a president, a fanatical leftists who is an true obstructionist, and hater of America, as is Reid.

    And so they silenced any and all opposition, and yet clowns like you continue to claim ‘fairness’ and ‘equality’ exist from only your side even when the disaster of Obamacare was a partisan vote that forced it upon the nation.

    Typical of the left: your argument is defeated, you base it on lies, hate and innuendo, and refuse to accept the fact your parties end is at hand.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Villa is but one more leftist troll, we now know why they had been silent for so long with Obamacare fiasco – awaiting their marching orders.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Absolutely.

  • Just Me

    It is not if the Republicans take over it is when the Republicans take over.

  • Just Me

    Actually the country has been screwed up since 2008. There is only so much you can blame former President Bush for.

  • joe michael villa

    yeah that was in 2005 and there was taliban tea party then.
    times change, people change, America has changed.

    we will not be held hostage by the taliban tea party ever again.

  • joe michael villa

    oh really?
    since day 1 Obama has been in office you (tea party) have been calling him a Social, Marxist, Communist and a Nazi.

    Best think your words before you start calling our President and LIberals all kinds of names or you will lose all credibility in this world.

  • joe michael villa

    so the recession started in 2008?
    roflmao

    you must of been living under some rock or some alter universe.

  • Just Me

    No actually the conservatives can just stand back and watch the democRats self implode.

    And you are showing your true colors. “Make sure they are left leaning COMMUNIST, SOCIALIST, MARXIST carrying card members” but the part that follows is an Oxymoron “DEMOCRACY reigns in the Senate” Those above have nothing to do with Democracy.

  • joe michael villa

    Well you’ve been calling our President and his administration communist, socialist and marxist since day one.
    or is that you just being hateful and bitter since Nov 2008?

  • Just Me

    Actually the tea party didn’t come out til about 2010 when they passed Obamacare.

  • Just Me

    And no one called Bush names?

  • joe michael villa

    So every time I hear a tea party member calling our President and his administration a commie, socialist and marxist they are just being bitter and hateful?

  • joe michael villa

    omgod
    are you serious?

    how old are you?

    Honestly, I called Bush and Cheney war criminals and I still stand by that. They invaded a country based on lies and 4 thousand of our troops died.
    I could only imagine if Obama had invaded a country and 4thouand troops dying. You already want to hang Obama over 4 lives in Benghazi and your silence is deafening on Bush and Cheney. Deafening!

  • Just Me

    You are talking about the people that voted for him………..Drones — . a person who lives on the labor of others; parasitic loafer.

  • Phil Sturgeon

    Your face fits you.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Once again you show your argument has been defeated.

    You have only threats, innuendo, slander, and blatant lies to try and make your case. Again, you have lost.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Yes, and as normal, since Villa the clone of Biden has had his argument defeated, he has to resort to the tired tactic of ‘blame others, call terrorists…’ to try and turn the argument around.

  • joe michael villa

    what threats?
    Harry Reid and the Democrats warned you to stop playing games. The tea party taliban didn’t listen.

    You now have ZERO control who our President nominates for judges and appointees.

    You lost in Nov 2008 and you’re still very bitter, angry and hateful person. It brings a smile to my face.

    America can now move forward.

  • Deeb0524

    How is Chuck hagel an “activist, socialist, and/or radical.” Last I checked, he was a pretty conservative republican.

  • Robert M

    Not when it comes to this Nation’s Constitution and our individual liberties guaranteed by that document. You are absolutely right about that part!!! I don’t mind so much you wanting to give up your rights but I have a real problem with people like you wanting to give up MY rights as an American citizen!!!

  • Guest

    Why do all Beckerheads fire off an ad hominen insult when replying to a comment they disagree with? I think it’s because you’re not the adults in the room.

    We don’t know when the Republicans will become the majority in the Senate, but the muddled classes will probably support plutocracy just as Beck and his ill-informed minions do sooner or later.

    The Senate Republicans promised to not use the filibuster except in extreme cases a while back, and they broke that promise. A president of any party needs to be able to put his people in place, and the reactionary Republicans were preventing that in absurd levels of obstruction.

    No doubt Dems will rue the day they changed the rules. We could end up with Borks in the federal courts, but the filibuster is still in place for Supreme Court nominees. At least the Borks can be stopped from doing real damage to our Republic. The Roberts/Alito/Scalia/Kennedy/Thomas gang, the Vanguard party of Fascism, have already done more than enough damage.

  • Anonymous

    Right you are. No one should take him seriously. He is a none entity.

  • Anonymous

    If we the Voters wanted Conservative Justices appointed to the Federal Courts and anti choice, anti immigration, anti poor cabinet appointies we would have voted for Mitt Romney we did not so suck it up Tea Party

  • Anonymous

    See Thanks for letting me know that it was Harry Reid that wanted to fund the government except Obamacare that caused the Shutdown

  • Anonymous

    And what about the Far Right Conservatives Republican Presidents appoint do you think we Liberals like that ? It works both ways

  • Anonymous

    As long as God has Photo ID (in Red States)

  • Curtar15

    Lets just say half voted(to keep dems in charge), do you think the other half will let you just do whatever the hell you feel like? Think again. Pay? I can’t wait to “pay”.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe if Republicans used the Filibuster 2 or 3 times per year none of this would have happen but when you use it on a daily basis what do you expect ?

  • Anonymous

    Anoth way to fix this it to allow the Minority 4 Filibusters per Senate Term 2 for nominees and 2 for Legislation

  • Scott Orton

    The founding fathers NEVER established a filibuster, that was Aaron Burr’s idea in 1806. The constitution is pretty clear about the Senate being responsible for their own rules.

    But I disagree why it was done, clearly Obama and Harry have been talking about this, with Obama calling a few hold outs to get them on board. We should be asking, Why Now? They have been threatening this for months, why Nov. 21st? Could it be one of the last days the Senate meets before the healthcare.gov web site is supposed to be back up and running? For weeks Reid has been trying to take the entire week of Thanksgiving off, pushing many things through. In addition, Republicans were making headway in most polls as the Economic data was being released that showed the Shutdown really had no effect despite the predictions of doom and gloom. Obama needed to get people talking about something other than Healthcare. Reid has done this before for Obama, back in March, when the Sequester was not causing the problems the administration had forecast, and Obama was getting heat for his use of Drones, Reid stepped to the plate and passed a budget, for the first time in 4 years, that was sure to incite the Republicans, taking the heat off Obama for awhile. And it worked.

    Now with Obama’s popularity fading as a result of the ACA, Reid has misdirected the Republicans once again with something that probably should be a formality anyway. Republicans should grumble about it, but they shouldn’t let the focus drift too far away from growing problems of the ACA and when the Dec 1st restart of the website comes, Reid will still be in Nevada, still enjoying Thanksgiving with the Whittemore’s and probably not willing do much more to salvage the ACA. The filibuster rule will change again after the election, one way or another and the Democrats are starting to realize that with every revelation about the problems with ACA, things get tougher for them to hold the Senate. Republicans need to keep the pressure on Obama and the Democrats about the mess they are making of Health Care and hold them to their self imposed deadlines. The filibuster battle can be fought another time, we can’t let Obama redirect this discussion at this time!

  • Just Me

    When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.
    Socrates

  • startrekin81

    You’re a deluded moron. Hate to break it to you, but you’re going to be whining about all the conservative nominees that get through on a simple majority basis when we take back the senate and the executive branch.

    Guess what you’re going to have to do? Suck it up, socialist scum.

  • Anonymous

    There are too many Conservative Justices now look what the Suprem Court just did with the TX Abortion Law Since you are a Star Trek fan you will understand my solution to the Conservative Tea Party Problem would be to “Send in the Jem Hadar”

  • Anonymous

    And yet, that quote came from Obama. But, of course, that’s only because he was forced into it. And, after all, both he and Kathleen Sebelius claim that they had to open the exchanges, no matter what, and would not compromise because of the mean Republicans who made them do it. That’s the answer of a misbehaving child.

  • startrekin81

    In 2005, the Republicans controlled the Executive branch, moron. And there was Liberal obstructionism then. It’s very convenient for you liberals to ignore the truth about the history of your party. Kinda like you ignore the fact you fools are responsible for Slavery, Jim Crow, the KKK and lynching.

  • Anonymous

    Uh huh…and once again, all of these scandals and disasters are the Republicans fault. Still the answer of a little baby. This mess is all on your side. They’ve had unfettered control for five years and this economy is in a mess and there’s more people out of work than there has been in decades. It’s the direct consequences of the ridiculous theories of the left put into practice. You can’t claim that it’s because of Republican opposition because they had nothing to do with the implementation of any of those ideas. Of course, if your goal is to ensure the dependence of every American from birth to death on the government, then they’ve been stupendously successful.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, you’re all such victims. None of your actions are in your control. Somebody call the waaaaaaaambulance!

  • Anonymous

    Yes, apparently, based on Obama’s plummeting approval ratings, I’d say that Americans HAVE had enough…of liberals.

  • startrekin81

    You’re a hateful, little man. You liberals claim to abhor violence, but call for it every time you talk to a conservative. Keep it up.

    The Supreme Court stopped the murder of the innocent unborn in Texas. The ability to murder a child that you created is not a right.

  • startrekin81

    Would you like my solution for the Liberal disease infesting the government?

    The truth… Show the people their true colors. They only care for the murder of innocence and violence against anyone who does not share their views.

    Your solution: Murder
    Our solution: Truth.

    You should know this Star Trek reference: coexist and cooperate.

  • Anonymous

    And prevent Woman from Mamograms, Breast Cancer Screenings, Pap Test and how about Pro Life TX Governor Perry 265+ executions under his belt Pro Life / Our solution: Truth. As my Hero Elim Garak said “Truth like beauty is in the eye of the Beholder”

  • startrekin81

    Sounds like you’ve got the Democrat’s talking points down pretty well.

    Maybe you should go to a liberal site and circle jerk with all your fellow liberal cronies?

  • Anonymous

    Looks like Vicky’s back. By the way, if you’re going to try to use big words, you might want to learn how to spell.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a Democrat as most are to far right for me I’ll take a Bernie Sanders, Alan Grayson, Bill DeBlasio true Liberals

  • Guest

    No one here is pointing to the problem Reid addressed. “POLITICO’s Manu Raju explains why the Senate majority leader finally made good on all his threats: “He once called the ‘nuclear option’ an ‘un-American’ move that would destroy the Senate and ‘ruin our country.’ But on Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid did it anyway. He took the unprecedented step of gutting Senate filibuster rules for presidential nominees on a straight party-line vote, a high-stakes gambit that could have enormous implications for future presidents, reshape an institution he’s served in for 26 years, and ultimately define Reid’s legacy as one of the longest-serving Democratic leaders in history – one with a penchant for bare-knuckled tactics.

    – “On the weekend of Nov. 9, Reid enlisted his top lieutenants, Sens. Chuck Schumer of New York and Dick Durbin of Illinois, to help take the caucus’ temperature. But after several weeks of counting votes, Reid was still encountering skepticism even among his confidants as late as Monday evening. He bucked up his troops ahead of the hugely controversial move. ‘This is the right thing to do,’ Reid told one of his closest advisers. ‘If I don’t do this, I might as well just walk away.’ “

  • Anonymous_Texas

    He will not have to repeal the 22nd amendment. There will be a national tragedy that will occur sometime in the next 10 – 12 months, the scope of the tragedy will be so great that the president will declare martial law, suspend the constitution and declare that it is too dangerous to change leadership or representation in the midst of the emergency (no 2014 election, no 2016 election).

    Conservatives will run to the courts to seek redress but will find that the hand picked judges are all in agreement with this modern day Hitler and poof, the entire constitution, and all of its amendments are gone.

    DHS will become a national police force, and FEMA will establish detention camps for dissenters.

    I hope and pray that I am wrong, but everyday this government takes another bite out of our freedoms, exempts itself from the laws that it passes, and changes the rules to fit their needs.

    This is happening from both parties, each hoping that it is the one in power when the final ax falls and they can all rid themselves of the pesky thing called the constitution.

  • startrekin81

    I really don’t give two sh*ts who you’d take over whom. You’re all cut from the same cloth.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and prior to Harry Reid’s actions, democrats, when they were in the minority, were able to use cloture votes and filibuster to block nominations they did not agree with. That can’t happen now and if they end up in the minority, trying to cry about not having those options is not going to work. And constitutionally, no president has the right to just put his people into place. All nominations were supposed to have senate approval.
    No president should have unchecked power. It’s too bad that liberals can only think of the “now”. Democrats have all condemned, on camera, the very actions that they took yesterday. This is not progress, it’s tyranny. If you don’t believe it, go back and listen to the impassioned speeches given by Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Joe Biden in 2005 when the Republicans were going to do this. I guess there is one difference, though. They realized that the results of such an action would ultimately be bad for the country. The democrats haven’t allowed any consideration of whether it would be good or bad long term to be a factor in their thinking.
    I would be willing to bet money though that you and all liberals will be moaning and crying if you end up in the minority in the senate again and these tactics are used to silence them. Now, because of the previous rule change that was unilaterally implemented, the senate majority leader can keep any vote from making it to the senate floor for a vote. What does it tell you that liberals feel that because their guy won, they should have unchecked power, even to prevent an up or down vote? Are you willing to live with that when the tables are turned? I’ve never seen a liberal who was bothered by such a trifling matter as hypocrisy and lying when fighting for the cause, so I already know the answer to that.

  • Guest

    It’s obvious why now. The obstructionists stopped the President from getting judges of his choice on the federal appeals court. The obstruction against Obama is unprecedented and unwarranted.

    Government is supposed to function, not be stopped because of extreme partisan bickering.

    Oh, and the shutdown did slow the recovery some. The doom and gloom was about the debt ceiling, not the gov’t shutdown.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Left is right; right is wrong

    Reid could swim intellectual circles around you Sam. The hypocrisy is on both sides of the isle. Remember, the R’s were arguing FOR straight up and down votes in 2005.

  • Anonymous

    Boo hoo. Once again, liberalism raises its ugly head with the “But they MADE me do it!” claim. Are you guys EVER not going to be victims? Even when you hold the majority, you claim you’re being abused by having to listen to ideas you don’t agree with. That’s awesome. It’s WAY easier than thinking.

  • Guest

    Soros. You reactionaries are pieces of work. Soros wasn’t involved you freaking dim wits. Try doing some actual homeword.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Left is right; right is wrong

    You mean an amendment convention? The filibuster isn’t in the Constitution. Try learning before typing so people don’t detect your BS.

  • Anonymous

    “You’re all cut from the same cloth.’ I agree a cloth of Fairness, Equality, Closing the income gab between the 1% and the 99%, Making sure everyone has access to affordable or provided healthcare

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think that the leftists are going to be successful this time. It’s easy to distract the eyes of the nation when it’s nothing more than ideological reasoning, but now, most people are paying a high price for the implementation of their ideas in law. They will not soon forget that they are losing more and more for what sounded like a good idea. Most people don’t even understand what a filibuster is. What Harry Reid and democrats are doing is trying to affect the makeup of the court in DC that will determine whether the various portions of Obamacare are legal or not. Just like what has occurred with gay marriage, where most states have voted overwhelmingly against it, a single revisionist judge’s vote can upend the will of the people.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Left is right; right is wrong

    The Catholic Church is the most left-wing faith in terms of social justice than any other faith…just as Jesus intended. Did you skip the New Testament when you read the Bible, or did you skip the whole Book?

  • Anonymous

    Judges are there to protect people’s rights. If people voted to stop Left Handed People from driving cars. It’s up to the Courts to say “You can’t do that” It’s no different in Marriage Equality neither the Leglislation or voters can pervent Gay People from Equal rights common sense

  • Scott Orton

    Well, thank goodness it has all been fixed. 51 judges will now take their place (and 80% of them would have been approved anyway, some of the delay is just the way the Senate works but that is a moot point). I don’t disagree that the obstruction was not always warranted. but can you seriously think this will make government function better? that it does anything to reduce partisan bickering?

    And oh, Retail spending was up during the shut down, more than forecast, the job report was better than forecast, I am very curious what you know about the recovery that the Economists are missing, but feel free to drop them a line, we could use this wisdom! Yes, the White House Council on Economics bought into the Standard & Poor’s report on a .25% dip (the same company that rated sub-par mortgages as prime mind you). Strangely, this report was produced before the results of handing all the government workers back pay (and letting them keep their unemployment pay) and without figuring the increase in spending these workers would engage in into the overall impact. When the revisions are done, we can actually look and whether it had any impact at all, but it is safe to say, the shut down itself was forecast to be devastating by the Dem’s, Media, and Administration. It hardly could be classified as much more than a little blip.

    The doom and gloom was about the debt ceiling? The Speech Obama himself gave just before the shut down forecast all kinds of economic damage, and promised to press forward the ACA with nary a mention of the debt ceiling. No, the Democrats were equal in their forecast of doom and gloom, pinning it both the shut down and the debt ceiling.

  • Scott Orton

    Thank goodness he is out of office and Obama has put a stop to it all… Not sure what he meant by “I am really good at killing people” or why he won’t address the number of civilians killed by the drones. For all his faults Bush had a wee bit more international support for his attack on Iran (though it did fade) than Obama is finding for his continued use of Drones and there is much more discussion on their legality.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for completely missing the point this particular posting. My point is that this is happening now because Harry Reid and the democrats are desperate to stop the bleeding. It won’t help. People are losing insurance coverage. There are millions more who are paying more for higher deductibles, premiums and less coverage.
    And by the way, judges are not put in place to “protect people’s rights”. The checks and balances system is supposed to do that. Judges are to interpret the law, not rewrite it or be crusaders for social justice. Revisionist judges have appointed themselves legislators from the bench. If you already have the power through majority rule in the senate, why would you need a judge to protect rights. According to your reasoning, there should not be a need for a judge to hear ANY cases. After all, liberalism will triumph.
    Apparently, somewhere in the dark recesses of your mind, you realize that removal of a check or balance can just as easily be used against your side. When a check or balance is removed, it does not bode well for protecting people’s rights, especially when those who do not agree with you are in power. Once that balance is removed it is nearly impossible for anyone to get it back, as politicians are bred to seek unchecked power, no matter WHICH party they belong to. Any freedoms removed through loss of a check or balance can just as easily be used against those who originally removed the mechanism for checking the power of the majority party once the balance of power shifts.

  • joe michael villa

    get back to me when the tea party Congress gets to double digits.

    I just checked and there at 9%.

    Ouch!

  • joe michael villa

    what rights do you not have today that you had in 2008?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    And you liberals pushed for it now both sides are jerks like you point out but it takes a complete moron such as Reid to give his enemy power over him if they ever take back the senate

  • Anonymous

    The “social justice” I’m referring to is the government being the source, summit and owner of Charity. Not so. The Catholic Church does not teach that Charity is a governmental virtue. Jesus taught individual Charity and that true Charity does not originate from Caesar.

  • Anonymous

    Look at the pot who is calling the kettle black. Sorros has his hands in everything and if you try to deny this you must be the
    super dim wit of all times. If you do not see what is coming down the pipeline you are the one that is ill informed. Don’t write back your left wing agenda drivel is not welcome!

  • Anonymous

    What American with any sense believes the Senate isn’t owned. It isn’t about democrat or republican. It is about the Fed creating our money. The Fed owns America and the senate. The create the money, and it costs them nothing to pay of Senators. The Fed isn’t accountable to anyone, and they are an enemy of our country. So, between the FED and the Lobbyists spending over 3 billion dollars a year influencing legislation the Senate is owned. The only hope for America is the tea parties in solidarity within the republican party. The republicans are bought too, but with the election of tea party candidates on the republican ballot we can continue to prevail within the house of representatives. Again, the senate is owned.

  • Scott Orton

    strangely, The voters put a majority in the House running on the “repeal the ACA” platform. Do those voters get their say in things?

  • Anonymous

    Yes Scott they do all they need do is vote to repeal it (47 Times) if they choose and the Senate and President agree it would be repealed. When your in the minority there is only so much you can do Look what happen in TX the minority wanted the anti abortion and woman’s health bill Republican passed Stopped but it passed cause the Democrats are in the minority.That’s how it works

  • Scott Orton

    the comment was more about the “we” part of your statement. “We” the voters are a fickle bunch. If what is known now was known then, we would have had a President Romney despite his views (more than one recent poll has shown this)

    Out of curiosity, did you protest the filibuster in TX?

  • Anonymous

    I watched and Cheered Wendy Davis doing her talking filibuster in TX I am find with that but she did a single 1 time fillisbuster Senate Republicans did fake filibusters and hundereds of them look what caused this was them filibustering 3 three DC Court nominees in one week not because they were not qualified but they do not want to fill the DC court with the 11 positions it calls for again cause they don’t want Liberals on the Court. If they want to Filibuster stand there for 24 + hours and make your case

  • Scott Orton

    hundreds? Even Reid’s chart showed just 45. 80+% of the nominees are pushed through without hassle. Of course Obama would never nominate more controversial judges. Nor would he do it less than a week after his approval ratings went upside down (June 4, 2013). But one has to wonder, why did he have a press conference to announce these nominees? That is only done for the Supreme Court nominees. And to demand they were approved immediately, even stunned Reid at the time, just getting on the Calendar takes weeks. Could it have been to get people talking about something other than his investigation into the FOXs news leak? or stop the discussion about how the IRS deals with groups that disagree with the President? Both these things were taking up the newspaper space and even had Jon Stewart barking. But how dare anyone question motivation, right?

  • KCaprioni

    G_D bless America land that I love Stand beside her and guide her through the night with the light from above. Please do not stand there and let our country be destroyed get out and educated people and stand up for what you believe. I will go down fighting and I will not give up on our wonderful country.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you. There was massive voter fraud in both elections. But few seemed to care, none were marching on Washington over this. Congress didn’t seen to care, states with counties that had more votes than voters did nothing. Apathy rules for many.

  • Anonymous

    Uh huh. And Obama’s plummeting numbers and the panic of democrats to avoid the fallout of Obamacare is…success? Your ideology is firmly rooted somewhere other than logic. You’re so controlled by it that if you died and ended up in hell, you’d blame the Tea Party for causing the rising temperatures through global warming. You’re the typical liberal…lots of name calling, no logic, no facts to support your ridiculous claims and no requirement to think. But hey, voting democrat is WAY easier than actually thinking.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, but he’s liberal so why confuse ideology with actual truthful, verifiable fact? Hundreds works…if you’re a mindless liberal.

  • defiant1

    And lets not forget, our dear leader is on the down-low!

  • defiant1

    “The greater the power, the more dangerous the abuse”–Edmund Burke

  • Stick

    Best Beck session I have ever seen!
    No wonder why FOX fired you Glenn !
    FK the NWO Left Right Paradigm !
    and screw Hitlarry !

  • Anonymous

    Leglislation + Judical +Agency Appointments = Hundreds

  • Anonymous

    “The article from Fox news” The same FOX (We make it up and you fools believe it) News FOX is a joke

  • Anonymous

    . The Republicans need a better strategy to stop the curse which has befallen this nation.– There is one modify there anti woman, anti poor, anti immigration, anti , anti gay positions

  • Igor Shafarevich

    In their war against Western civilization, today’s liberals use three main attack vectors:-Attacking the family-Attacking private property-Attacking Christianity

  • Anonymous

    If I were Obama I would send in the Jem Hadar against the Tea Party

  • Anonymous

    There was no voter fraud everytime Democrats win elections it’s voter fraud when Republicans win it the will of the people Ha Ha

  • Anonymous

    Attacking the family (You mean 1 man 1 woman with children family I assume)
    Attacking private property (Who is attacking private property)
    Attacking Christianity (No one is attacking Christianity it and ever other Religion just need to be kept out of City Halls, The Statehouses, Congress and the White House)

  • Anonymous

    Pssss _ God is nutrual and does not root for countries

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, right. Like when Bush won against Al Gore. There weren’t ANY liberals calling voter fraud even after the liberal rags counted the sealed votes and it showed Bush won. There’s never been any contention by liberals when close votes are called. They always concede graciously. Good call inbred Jed.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, right. Like when Bush won against Al Gore. There weren’t ANY liberals calling voter fraud even after the liberal rags counted the sealed votes and it showed Bush won. There’s never been any contention by liberals when close votes are called. They always concede graciously. Good call inbred Jed.

  • Anonymous

    Tony…Are you kidding? Are you actually unaware of how Senate Republicans have used the filibuster to obstruct the President’s agenda and, in particular, his judicial nominees?

  • Anonymous

    Tony…Are you kidding? Are you actually unaware of how Senate Republicans have used the filibuster to obstruct the President’s agenda and, in particular, his judicial nominees?

  • Anonymous

    That “Genie” is out of the bottle for ever now.

  • Anonymous

    That “Genie” is out of the bottle for ever now.

  • Lela

    Benjamin Franklin is responsible for that quote – not the Bible. God has and always has had “THE PLAN”.

  • Anonymous

    Harry Reid is one dishonest individual. It’s appalling he has 51 other followers, Senators who continue to mislead and lie to the American people. Frankly with their disrespect of the U.S. Constitution, they’re un-American! Led by the chief thief, Harry
    Reid!

  • Guest

    You like Glenn Beck, a professional liar. You wouldn’t know a lie if it bit you in the arse. It’s appalling that Beck has millions of gullible and ignorant followers.

  • Montesquieu

    Liberalism is childish.

  • Anonymous

    So when the liberals do the same thing, you consider it to be noble, correct? The filibuster has been used nearly since the beginning of the republic to prevent mob rule, especially in confirmations. Or are you going to say the democrats, when the Republicans are in power should just shut their mouths and allow any court appointee to be confirmed, no matter how repulsive their ideology because a Republican president and senate have every right to appoint strict constructionist, conservative judges without interference? I keep hearing leftists try to use the very purpose of the filibuster to justify doing away with it, but I would bet any amount of money that you do not believe what you are claiming, except so far as it applies to your side.
    There is simply no way that Harry Reid and the democrats will step aside when the democrats are out of power in the senate. The idea that a president should be able to appoint and emplace anyone they choose without opposition or resistance from the other side flies in the face of the very basis for the concept of checks and balances under constitutional law. But, as it has become painfully apparent, liberals find the constitution stilted, anachronistic and woefully “untrendy”, except to be wielded as a weapon when they are not the majority.
    Here’s the problem with your side-leftists don’t understand the concept of vapid hypocrisy or lying because they think that ANY act carried out in the name of the cause is acceptable. Case in point…Occupy Wall Street. How many hate-filled hysterical claims from those morons were we subjected to, that the Tea Party was full of violent people, yet, it was only at their rallies that acts of violence, defiance of the law, assaults on the police, destruction of property, rape, murder occurred…but none of that is hypocritical is it? Guess what? This is the same and when the power differential has shifted, we will once again hear whining and crying about “abuse” from what the liberals themselves put into motion.
    Unfortunately for you guys, though, more and more people are paying closer attention to the lying and hypocrisy and I seriously doubt that anyone is going to buy that removing the filibuster from the senate rules after 225 years and moving the date for the employer mandate of Obamacare will appear as anything but sickening hypocrisy covering for an abusive power grab.
    These acts are nothing more than a blatant attempt to circumvent constitutional checks and balances in order to cement power in the executive branch. What you guys never seem to get though, is that removing those protections will mean that those same tactics will be used by the idiotic politicians on the other side who can’t see beyond the moment to do the same thing to you. NOTHING about this is good for either side. It’s too bad that democrats and republicans alike are, and will be, too stupidly blind to see that.

  • Anonymous

    I thought I’d never see the day Obama correct about a subject that Glenn was not, Obama’s 2005 point of “over 200 years” was [and remains] correct.

    Beck’s “225 years of tradition” cannot be correct about a Senate not yet that old. The Constitution was not ratified until 1791. That was only 222 years ago.

    Why didn’t Glenn take Sen. Crony to task for allowing (and hiding) Obamacare’s Senate initiation [via substitution for the Veterans Home Ownership Tax Act]?

    Article 1, Section 7 suppresses any and all legislation the Senate has acted upon that raises revenue, if not first approved by and sent up from the House of Representatives.

    When details are so boringly bothersome they count for nothing,it is time the Blame Game were played in front of a full-length mirror.

  • Anonymous

    If there is no God everything is permitted – except those actions and events proscribed by Kings or majority rule law. Remember, Jesus (Truth) died when the majority of the people chose to free the criminal community organizer Barrabas rather than Jesus.

  • Anonymous

    Slkgej6, thanks for the red meat. Leaving aside your fantasies about who I am and what I think, (I don’t want to take your money, I want to better understand your irrationality), I’d like to know your answer to the following:

    Have you seen the filibuster chart that Senator Reid showed? Don’t you agree, then, that it’s reasonable to make the case that the precedent on filibusters was first broken by the Senate Republicans’ overuse of it as a tactic to obstruct lawful and necessary governance by the elected administration? Do you remember the sequence of events that occurred during the W Bush Presidency, when the “Nuclear Option” was first conceived? Dems blocked nominees, Reps threatened to nuke, Dems backed down, and W got what he wanted, no nukes needed. How do you explain why the Reps wouldn’t do the same for Obama? Wasn’t that the real change to “225 years” (sic) of precedent?

    It’ll helpf any discussion if you can avoid the “you guys” generalizations, btw. I’m not the creature in your imagination.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I saw the chart. So what? You completely miss the point. Obama has asked the country to simply suck it up when it comes to judicial nominees. He only chooses leftist, revisionist jurists who are dedicated to the principle of legislating from the bench. He doesn’t even attempt to choose those who could be acceptable to either side. All you’re talking about is pure numbers. Why do comparative numbers matter? The left screams even when Republican presidents attempt to place jurists on powerful courts that are middle-of-the-road.
    Now, let’s get back to my question. You never answered it. If you’re just fine with Obama being allowed to completely bully through his leftist friends and packing the DC Court of Appeals, as well as the likely replacement of all other judicial nominees of his choosing, without effort, you will, once the tables are turned, simply argue that all Republican nominees should be confirmed simply because they are in power, and the Democrats will not have a leg to stand on ideologically, right? After all, according to you, it’s just obstructionism and comes down to nothing more than pure numbers. On that basis, if the Republicans have the numbers, you will shut your mouth and will have absolutely nothing to say about their appointees because the only thing that counts is numbers. That means that you believe that neither side should be able to obstruct the other side’s most radical appointees on the basis of ideology.
    I hate to tell you this, but what you’re proposing is ridiculous and you know it. Neither you, nor any other liberal would EVER shut your mouths about important judicial appointments. While YOU may believe that it’s a great idea now, please….stop trying to convince me that you believe that ideology doesn’t count. None of this is good for the country, and the liberals are going to regret this much, much sooner than they think. And frankly, it’s too bad that the so-called “party of tolerance” is the most intolerant in history of opposing ideas. They act as if it is just FAR too much to expect that they should have to listen to the other side and negotiate.
    The liberals have shown a dedicated penchant for underhanded measures that violate both the spirit and intent of the rules. Case in point, Obamacare. Obamacare was NEVER voted on by the house. It started out as a completely unrelated bill. The democrats then gutted the language of the bill, left the number of the bill on Obamacare, then claimed that the house had already voted on the bill, therefore, just because not a single word of the original bill remained, and Obamacare constituted a new tax revenue that can only be started in the house, the democrats simply rammed it through. Lest you claim otherwise, what, exactly, do you think Pelosi was talking about when she stated, “We have to pass the law to be able to read the law…”?
    Obamacare is soon going to be heard again by the supreme court by challenging it on this basis. I have no idea how that is going to turn out since the supreme court even refuted Obama’s attorneys in their claims that it doesn’t constitute a tax and rushing to allow it to stand. Now that the it has been firmly and legally established as a tax, the door is open yet again to challenge the legality of a bill that did not begin in the house.
    If you think the nuclear option is simply a necessary move because of the big, bad Republicans, you’re a fool. This has NOTHING to do with a senate majority being abused. It has EVERYTHING to do with abuse of power and removal of constitutional protections for everyone.

  • Anonymous

    Do you understand the meaning of the word “viewpoint”? Yours appears to be from an extreme angle, friend. Just something to keep in mind, as you come to grips with imagination vs. reality.

  • Anonymous

    LOL..Another genius comment from a “Guest” who gets their talking points from the radical left wing socialists who can’t think for themselves. Either you’re Harry Reid posing as a Guest, who doesn’t have the guts to sign in under your name or you’re just a devoted democratic simpleton.
    Of course facts mean nothing to you or your ilk. As long as you can spew your venom and make unfounded assumptions, it helps you feel somewhat relevant. It’s a shame that ill informed imbeciles like you vote. But that’s what kind about America, even the disabled can voice their First Amendment Right of Free Speech (although they try to stem others free speech), but sadly you vote too.

  • Anonymous

    And you appear to suffer from the typical fog of left wing malaise. Thanks for pointedly NOT answering my question. I know it’s always painful to admit that you’re an incurable hypocrite, but leftist progressives can’t function without it. That’s the problem with embracing viewpoints that are consistently throughout history shown to be abject denials of human nature. Fact is never part of the equation. But remember, YOU thought this was a great idea, so when you attempt to whine about the ideology of the right in the future, you’ve just cut your own throat. No amount of whining and crying is ever going to reverse the anger over the unchecked abuses of the left and this president in particular. You guys never bother trying to convince people on the merits of what you’re claiming because there ARE no merits. Instead, it’s always strategic games. After all, why not burn down the whole system if it gets you what you want now? All you’ll do is claim that it wasn’t your sides idea to change the rules. Like all good little leftists, you’ll be crying that the Republicans forced you into it. I can’t wait for you to show all of us Harry Reid’s next chart. Seriously…you’re a true “jenius” (Nope, that’s not misspelled…think about it).

  • Anonymous

    No. It’s a left wing freak who usually goes by the name, Gadamer Too, or Victor Tiffany or Guest. He has a sexual obsession with Glenn Beck.

  • Anonymous

    Slkgej6, there you go again, letting your imagination control your thought processes. Remember that this happened before, and I pinned you on it. Don’t learn, do you?

    When did I state the nuke option was a “great idea”?

    Remember, the question isn’t when or where you got the idea about my view – I can’t control when and how you get your bizarre ideas (and apparently, neither can you), it’s: when did I state it?

    I can make the same rambling rants as you (the Right has been proven wrong on every issue, is mendacious, intellectually and morally corrupt, etc.), but mine would be as futile as yours, so let’s save time and stick to what we really know, OK?

  • Anonymous

    Whine, whine, whine….it never stops with you, does it. How about answering my question, or is that just too tough for you? Or are you just here to stir up trouble while coming down on all sides of this issue? If you are now claiming that you DON’T think the nuclear option is good, then you’ve sure done a bang up job of faking it. So how about it? Let’s really hear what your opinion is since I’m just “imagining” your position.

  • Guest

    Beck always plays loose and fast with the facts, but the notion that Beck is a liar doesn’t ever penetrate the programming from slogans (“Truth has no agenda” and “The truth lives here”) and his #1 lie (“I’m telling the truth”).

    For one of Beck’s supporters to realize that Beck is dishonest would cause great discomfort referred to in psychological circles as cognitive dissonance

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Beck’s followers suck

    Writing of liars, add slkgej6 to the list of character assassins making up slurs about a critic of your hero. I’m married to a woman; you’re a liar!

    Now I have a new Disqus name dedicated to the ignorant and gullible fools too brainwashed to ever question the veracity of any of Beck’s many absurd claims. You suck.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Beck’s followers suck

    If yodu ha 6-8 sick, rabid attack dogs searching the Internet for your every comment in order to smear you, the way that slkgej6 smears me below (and worse), you’d Guest your comments too.

    If you are not able to detect Glenn Beck’s many lies, you’re in no position to whine about facts or truth. No Americans are more misinformed than Beck’s gullible sheeple. You’ve been brainwahsed by Beck’s #1 lie, that he tells the truth. Nothing is further from the truth. Beck blends facts and fictions to create false narratives, but you’ll believe them for one reason: you want to.

    You want to really wake up? Try reading Debunking Glenn Beck, Tears of a Clown and the best book to date, Common Nonsense by A. Zaitchik.

  • Anonymous

    Hi, Gadamer. Perhaps you’d like to learn to read so you could actually produce facts instead of just name calling all the time. We all know it will never happen, but one can always hope. How’s the inbreeding going?

  • Anonymous

    Your disdain for Beck clouds your judgment and senses and assume because people comment on Becks page we are followers. There are other ways to access Becks articles without being a “follower”. In your over Beck your first attack is to insult our comments, which immediately discredits you.
    If you have a differing opinion about what radical political maneuver Reid pulled to further his radical liberal agenda, then offer up your opinion. If you want to berate Beck because you dislike him, start you’re own blog.

  • Anonymous

    He HAS posted a blog. He has a website dedicated to nothing more than hatred for Glenn Beck. He often cites himself as “proof” of his claims. He often goes on long rants about Glenn Beck’s sexuality and genitalia. He will also post as multiple people in the same thread, trying to shore up support for his ideas, but his writing style is unmistakable. He is simply not gifted enough to even hide his writing style which is why he claims that I’m “hunting” him on the internet in order to smear him. Nope. I don’t follow him except when he shoots off his mouth on the Blaze or Newsmax, but it really bothers him that no matter whether he posts as a guest or under one of his many, many handles, everyone knows it’s him because he never addresses fact. He only mocks, engages in low intelligence name calling and spews hatred toward Glenn Beck or anyone who may happen to agree with the subject at hand.

  • Guest

    If you don’t know that Beck’s a professional liar, that’s your problem.

    slkgej6 is lying; I do not go “on long rants about Beck’s sexuality and genitalia.” Go find The Glenn Beck Review and see for yourself. I’d link to it, but Beck has seen to it that my URLs do not get posted here. Gee, I can’t imagine why.

    There is no “radical, liberal agenda.” You want radicalism? See the website Popular Resistance. As far as we’re concerned, liberalism is part of the problem because it’s not radical enough to solve our problems, problems like climate change that liar Beck denies exists.

  • Guest

    You’re a liar from “He” to “hand.”

    GFY ignorant Beckerhead.

  • Guest

    Right, because the Tea Party supporters are so adult.

    WRONG!

    Beck sure has you brainwashed to believe the opposite of the truth.

  • Anonymous

    No, but you don’t like it when people point out your lies. You’re incapable of disguising your writing style, so changing your cyber identity is pretty much useless. Get help. Your preoccupation with Glenn Beck is unhealthy. I don’t frequent the websites of those I despise as they have nothing to say that I care about. It’s too bad that all you are capable of is lying, hatred and ad hominem attacks. Why don’t you go to moveon.org where you’ll have a ready audience of fellow morons more skilled in name calling and hatred than factual reasoning? There’s only one answer for why you’re here-your own hatred. You’re wasting your time with your predator mentality and your pathetic attempts to hide who you are only paints the picture all too clearly as to what your motives are.

  • Guest

    I don’t need “help;” that would be for people so stupid that they believe a man telling bold-faced lies, Mr. Beck.

    Your desire to push me away is pure fascism, closed-minded fascism, the opposite of freedom and democracy.

    I don’t have “hatred;” you’re a liar. I don’t have a “predator mentality;” you’re a liar. My motives are pure: expose Glenn Beck as the liar, hypocrite and charlatan that he is.

    Your the one offering ad hominem attacks here; that makes you a hypocrite as well.

    I’m capable of changing my writing style if I want to: you’re a liar. How is it that you’re so full of $hit? Oh, right; you believe the professional liar, Glenn Beck.

  • Guest

    jnbreeding? How’s the spelling class going?

    Glenn Beck preys on you. That’s a fact.

  • Anonymous

    Blah, blah, blah. So which is it? You’re NOT a liar, or you’re actually a talented enough liar to change your writing style, but instead, you simply choose to change your name so that you can continue your tirades without alerting everyone to who you are immediately. I especially love it when you answer yourself as a “Guest”. That’s sheer genius….liar.

  • Anonymous

    Boo hoo, Gadamer/Vicki/Guest/whoever you claim to be now. I wouldn’t go casting aspersions about grammar, genius. A single slip of the finger doesn’t constitute your lack of skill in everyday grammatical construction. I guess it’s your family’s long history of inbreeding. There, happy?

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Beck’s followers suck

    Bill Tilghman is a reactionary moron.

  • Anonymous

    Always a pleasure to exchange thoughts with you, Silk. In fact, I enjoyed being able to remind you that I shut you down in our last thread by proving that you had imagined my position. And now you imagine I’m whining! It never stops with you, does it?

    The reason it never stops – and, more to the point, the reason you can’t win an argument with me – is that your mind cannot process ambivalence. For most folks, sociopolitical issues are often viewed, correctly, as shades of gray. But you, Silk, can only see black and white, good and bad, right and wrong. This allows you to move quickly, since you avoid the process of deliberation entirely, but it also makes it impossible for you to appreciate the motives and the intellectual processes of those of us who dwell in the land of deliberation and problem-solving. Like most good “conservatives” today (in quotes because it’s a wild misnomer), you don’t know what you don’t know, and you’re remarkably untempered by doubt or nuance. Perhaps there are yes/no answers at the molecular or digital level, but that doesn’t work when dealing with sociopolitical issues in a complex society. In addition to strategic political considerations (Reid’s action must be viewed with that in mind) there is rarely a public policy that is all good or all bad; most have decidedly mixed results and should be evaluated overall on that basis. Obamacare is a good example of this.

    So is the filibuster, a Senate custom that evolved slowly and had been used sparingly until recently. Since it’s a legislative gimmick that may be used for good or for ill, how you viewed it generally depended on whose ox was gored. But the situation today is different. The Republican party went berserk around 1990, after the Cold War, their erstwhile raison d’etre and the escape valve for their patriotic hysteria and fear-mongering, came to a close. Since then they’ve waged war on the Democrats, i.e. on their own countrymen, and they’ve used a scorched-earth policy. They almost brought down the entire country at the end of the W Bush administration, and they’ve never accepted responsibility or even learned from their mistakes. During the W Bush administration, Democrats filibustered many nominees. The Reps threatened to nuke the filibuster, and the Dems, always the more reasonable and cautious of the two parties, backed down and gave Bush what he wanted. But when the situation was reversed years later, the Senate Reps refused to play by the same rules. They would not back down and made it a point to deny the President his choices, even when he made middle-of-the-road selections, as he so frequently does. They refused to fill the three empty seats on the DC Court for the most obviously partisan reasons. Their intent was, always has been, to cripple his Presidency.

    So, who changed the filibuster? The Dems by partially nuking it, or the Reps by abusing it to throttle the administrative choices of our legitimately elected President? Why should we enshrine a legislative custom when it’s being used to stifle rightful and necessary government functions?

    My own view is that it was a risky move by Reid, not a great idea (as you put it) but probably a necessary one, under the extreme circumstances imposed by the Reps. I’m not happy it was done, but it was probably necessary to maintain the balance of powers, at least under Obama. The Reps treat Obama as an illegitimate President, so they had it coming, I guess. On the other hand, it could come back to haunt us all if an unrepentant GOP takes power again. This is a party led by truly dangerous, out-of-touch ideologues. That’s probably why you favor them over the Dems.

  • Anonymous

    No, I haven’t forgotten you. Believing you “shut me down” may make you feel good about yourself, but trust me when I say it’s abject falsehood. Remember, YOU failed to answer my question even once as to whether you would simply step back and shut your mouth when the Republicans regain power and the backlash against liberals begins. After all, according to you, it’s “reasonable” at this time to permanently do away with the filibuster in response to overuse of this tool by the conservatives. You point out that the president was elected and should be allowed to make whatever appointments to any government position he chooses. So now a democratic republic should operate on the concept of “victori spolia” (to the victor go the spoils), meaning that contesting appointments by either side should not be countenanced because, after all, the president won an election, so, like some modern day Caligula, he should be praised for a presidency run largely through imperial caveat. But, that concept only holds water IF you are 100% committed to doing the same when the other side is in power. If not, then welcome to the liberal world of vapid hypocrisy. So which is it? Is your conviction impartially applied to BOTH sides, regardless of how repugnant and radical the track record of those candidates, or how lasting their influence will be on the judicial system that will decide the application of the policies of that appointee, or is your conviction situational? I fully expect that you’ll once again wax poetic about how having no moral convictions somehow makes you superior without answering the question at all, but there’s always hope that a leftist might, for once, abandon the principle of “the end ALWAYS justifies the means”.
    Conversing with you is a complete waste of time, but I’ll give it one last shot, then I’ll give you the last word for your devastating “slam dunk” of scathing retendre. You seem to believe you’re a psychologist/erudite politician and carefully walk the middle of the road. The problem is, the road has deviated drastically to one side and your beliefs have merrily gone along for the ride. There is no such thing as “grey” areas these days. Leftist ideologies have so trumped the devastating reality of the results directly attributable to real world application of those ideologies. I’m both a physician and a scientist and the one thing that never ceases to amaze me is the blind belief of leftists that somehow, all evidence to the contrary in world history showing that their ideologies do not work, the answer is always, “Let’s do it all over again, because this time we’ll have a different result even though we haven’t changed a single parameter of the experiment.
    Literally, everywhere socialism has been applied it cannot be enforced without fascism, and that has been an undeniable fact since the inception of marxist influence applied to social structuring. Nothing ever changes, excepting the depravity of the atrocities that leftists are willing to inflict in order to achieve the end that, in their minds, justifies ANY means. The problem is that when you start out from the very inception with a view of human nature that is fatally flawed, all other assumptions of that ideology are also wrong. Leftist progressives believe that families will sacrifice their own flesh and blood and friends in deference to what is deemed “good” by the all knowing “Dear Leader” for the proletariat. Since you fancy yourself a psychologist, how would you characterize a person who refuses to adapt, no matter the consequences? But seeing the very real results of leftist social experimentation never seems to faze you people. It’s just that the ridiculous method you chose to achieve your ends wasn’t tried “enough”. When it fails miserably, it is always blamed on the opposition who traitorously sabotaged the purity of the movement. Case in point, Obama has spent roughly 10-15 minutes simperingly “apologizing” for pushing people off insurances they liked. Now, he is on a sweeping tour of the nation, blaming the actions of Republicans for the failure of the website, the insurance companies for the “back end” of the programming never having been built, and Tea Party influence for the disastrous, VERY real horrors that families are now facing as they see their coverage end, premiums and deductibles for their new plans skyrocketing, and those who HAD insurance (including my family) that they liked forced out of those plans and, for many, no insurance coverage for ongoing medical problems because, while they make too much money to receive subsidies, their premiums and deductibles have skyrocketed. This is the liberal philosophy. Scream about the need for redistribution policies that appear to have been fabricated by a garden gnome whose qualifications amount to having watched a pathetic version of a Robin Hood movie. Blame those who make one dollar more than you. Constant revolution. Make everyone “better” by punishing those who possess more talent and drive than the norm through government sanctioned theft. Pull them down and climb over their bodies to reach “equality”. And, above all else, NEVER tell the truth, even when confronted with video.

    It’s always the same, tired answers and the desperate drive to practice “true socialism”, as if it hasn’t been tried, literally, to death. You are not in the middle. You’re squarely left of center. Claiming some nebulous erudition for playing to the middle does not place you either in the middle OR make you erudite. You might try watching the first Karate Kid movie for what Mr. Miyagi described happens to those who try to play both sides from the middle. The movie may be complete drivel, but like most things, occasionally, there’s a shred of truth amongst the idiocy.

  • Guest

    Not as much as you Vicky Tiffy