Nearly 100 lawmakers descend on Mt. Vernon to discuss Convention of States

EDITOR’S NOTE: Due to inclement weather in Dallas over the weekend, Glenn and his staff were still unable to make it into the office. Instead, Glenn broadcasted his radio program from home. As a result, no video clips will be available from Monday’s radio show. You can listen to the entire Glenn Beck Radio Program HERE. The story below is based on one of Monday’s radio segments.

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Last week, Glenn shared the news that South Carolina and Virginia have formally called for an Article V Convention of State (COS). On Saturday, close to 100 legislators from 32 states met in Mount Vernon, Virginia to discuss the possibility of adding amendments to the U.S. Constitution through a convention of the states. A convention of states, as outlined in Article V of the Constitution, allows state legislatures to vote on amendments to add.

“There was a really important meeting on Saturday. Nearly 100 state legislators from 32 different states met to discuss the possibility of the convention of the states,” Glenn said on radio this morning. “They said that they were looking for congressional term limits and limits on federal taxation and spending.”

“Need six more states, and we got ourselves a convention,” Pat added.

No constitutional amendment has ever been added through a COS, but some say the Constitution specifically allows for states to use the convention as a check against the federal government. Mark Levin lays out the argument in his book, The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Public.

According to Article V, two-thirds of the state legislatures, or 34 states, must approve an application for a convention to occur. State legislatures would then send delegates to the convention, with each state getting one vote on proposed amendments. For an amendment to pass and become a part of the Constitution, it would have to be approved by three-fourths, or 38, of the state legislatures.

“This was [written as] the last resort, the ejector seat,” Glenn said of the COS. “Your media has broken down. Your parties have taken over. Your Congress is corrupt. Your president is corrupt. Everything is corrupt, but before there’s a coup, you pull this chute.”

“And up until the last maybe a year, year and a half, I’ve always been dead-set against this, and I think you were too,” Pat said to Glenn. “Because the problem is you open up the Constitution. And you could potentially open it up to what everybody fears – globalists and all that kind of stuff. But you’re not because you’ve got enough states that are going to oppose that. You need 13 and you’re going to get 13 to oppose losing our sovereignty or repealing the Second Amendment.”

As Glenn explained, the COS offers an opportunity to refocus our federalist system away from the federal government and back to the states. While the progressives in Washington may want to keep the power as centralized as possible, Article V of the Constitution allows the states to push back against the federal government and exercise their own power.

“That’s the way it was intended in the first place. And I think it would be really good because what you have right now is all of these senators that care about the United States of America, not their own state. They’re supposed to care about their state,” Glenn said. “And it was Woodrow Wilson and the progressives that moved in and said, ‘No, we’ve got to stop all of this. We’ve got to get people to care about the United States of America and not their individual state.’ And that’s why our states are being raked over the coals.”

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Where in Article V does it say that “State legislatures would then send delegates to the convention, with each state getting one vote on proposed amendments.”?

    It doesn’t. All the State legislatures do is submit an Application for the US Congress to call a Convention for proposing Amendments. The States have already chosen their delegates through elections and they are currently sitting in Congress.

    Due to the subversive 17th Amendment, the US Senate no longer represents the States as originally designed. Now it is just another political body pandering for the popular vote instead of their State’s interests.

    IF the States call for a Convention, then the US Constitution can be thrown out and a new one drafted. Don’t believe me? Research what happened when delegates were sent to propose changes for the Articles of Confederation.

    Glenn Beck is helping to sell a subversive agenda, which isn’t a surprise being that he dismisses the natural born Citizen clause of the Constitution and attacks the people who wish to uphold it.

    The guarantees of safety from pro Article V proponents are meaningless, ALL the rules can be rewritten at any time. I for one certainly do not trust any politician in this day and age to tamper with the Constitution.

    Beck is not a friend of the US Constitution.

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Where in Article V does it say that “State legislatures would then send delegates to the convention, with each state getting one vote on proposed amendments.”?

    It doesn’t. All the State legislatures do is submit an Application for the US Congress to call a Convention for proposing Amendments. The States have already chosen their delegates through elections and they are currently sitting in Congress.

    Due to the subversive 17th Amendment, the US Senate no longer represents the States as originally designed. Now it is just another political body pandering for the popular vote instead of their State’s interests.

    IF the States call for a Convention, then the US Constitution can be thrown out and a new one drafted. Don’t believe me? Research what happened when delegates were sent to propose changes for the Articles of Confederation.

    Glenn Beck is helping to sell a subversive agenda, which isn’t a surprise being that he dismisses the natural born Citizen clause of the Constitution and attacks the people who wish to uphold it.

    The guarantees of safety from pro Article V proponents are meaningless, ALL the rules can be rewritten at any time. I for one certainly do not trust any politician in this day and age to tamper with the Constitution.

    Beck is not a friend of the US Constitution.

  • Bonnie Somer

    i feel that it was put there so the states do not have to fear the fed govt they put in place. the 10th amendment should be enough but now it seems not. Something or us, we the people, must do it we must stop the govt now or later the fight has started

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    The Convention needs to be called, and all states respond to ensure we can reign in the government once and for all. This is the second line of defense the Founders had included, and now their foresight is confirmed in doing so, let us not be the last free generation in America.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    The Convention needs to be called, and all states respond to ensure we can reign in the government once and for all. This is the second line of defense the Founders had included, and now their foresight is confirmed in doing so, let us not be the last free generation in America.

  • Anonymous

    You are an idiot. Beck is a friend to the Constitution. Those who are not friends are those who sit back and let Congress and the White House get away with everything. The states have to do something or the people will. Order or Anarchy – which are you for? Because if we keep going down this same old road, anarchy and mobocracy will be the name of the game.

  • Anonymous

    You are an idiot. Beck is a friend to the Constitution. Those who are not friends are those who sit back and let Congress and the White House get away with everything. The states have to do something or the people will. Order or Anarchy – which are you for? Because if we keep going down this same old road, anarchy and mobocracy will be the name of the game.

  • Anonymous

    I have a great fear of an Article V Convention.

    We need in this land a spiritual revival, and must return to the founding principles and respect for “the Law of Nature and Nature’s God” before even considering such a thing as this.

    I fear that attempting such a Convention, without first addressing the depraved condition in which we currently exist, will simply guarantee that the globalists and power elites will change the Constitution so that it’s unrecognizable and has no protection at all for individual freedom.

    Of course, if we have a revival and return to founding principles, such a Convention is no longer necessary.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    Bring it on and let Obama try ti fight it. It will make for a great show.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    Bring it on and let Obama try ti fight it. It will make for a great show.

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Are you always this rude and impolite?

    I hate to burst your little bubble, but I am not the one who is subverting the Constitution and advocating for it’s alteration. That would be Beck and you.

    Instead of posting your uninformed opinions about this subject and me, try learning about it first.

    http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/mark-levin-refuted-keep-the-feds-in-check-with-nullification-not-amendments/

    http://www.eagleforum.org/topics/concon/

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Are you always this rude and impolite?

    I hate to burst your little bubble, but I am not the one who is subverting the Constitution and advocating for it’s alteration. That would be Beck and you.

    Instead of posting your uninformed opinions about this subject and me, try learning about it first.

    http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/mark-levin-refuted-keep-the-feds-in-check-with-nullification-not-amendments/

    http://www.eagleforum.org/topics/concon/

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Re: “This is the second line of defense the Founders had included”

    Funny, that is not what James Madison (chief architect of the Constitution) said.

    “3. If a General Convention were to take place for the avowed and sole
    purpose of revising the Constitution, it would naturally consider itself
    as having a greater latitude than the Congress appointed to administer
    and support as well as to amend the system; it would consequently give
    greater agitation to the public mind; an election into it would be
    courted by the most violent partizans on both sides; it wd. probably
    consist of the most heterogeneous characters; would be the very focus of
    that flame which has already too much heated men of all parties; would
    no doubt contain individuals of insidious views, who under the mask of
    seeking alterations popular in some parts but inadmissible in other
    parts of the Union might have a dangerous opportunity of sapping the
    very foundations of the fabric. Under all these circumstances it seems
    scarcely to be presumeable that the deliberations of the body could be
    conducted in harmony, or terminate in the general good. Having witnessed
    the difficulties and dangers experienced by the first Convention which
    assembled under every propitious circumstance, I should tremble for the
    result of a Second, meeting in the present temper of America, and under
    all the disadvantages I have mentioned. . . .”

    http://www.familytales.org/dbDisplay.php?id=ltr_mad1627

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Re: “This is the second line of defense the Founders had included”

    Funny, that is not what James Madison (chief architect of the Constitution) said.

    “3. If a General Convention were to take place for the avowed and sole
    purpose of revising the Constitution, it would naturally consider itself
    as having a greater latitude than the Congress appointed to administer
    and support as well as to amend the system; it would consequently give
    greater agitation to the public mind; an election into it would be
    courted by the most violent partizans on both sides; it wd. probably
    consist of the most heterogeneous characters; would be the very focus of
    that flame which has already too much heated men of all parties; would
    no doubt contain individuals of insidious views, who under the mask of
    seeking alterations popular in some parts but inadmissible in other
    parts of the Union might have a dangerous opportunity of sapping the
    very foundations of the fabric. Under all these circumstances it seems
    scarcely to be presumeable that the deliberations of the body could be
    conducted in harmony, or terminate in the general good. Having witnessed
    the difficulties and dangers experienced by the first Convention which
    assembled under every propitious circumstance, I should tremble for the
    result of a Second, meeting in the present temper of America, and under
    all the disadvantages I have mentioned. . . .”

    http://www.familytales.org/dbDisplay.php?id=ltr_mad1627

  • Whitehead Laurie

    They need to repeal or rewrite the 16th amendment that gives Congress the power to tax any income from any source without apportionment based on census. This is the power source for federal overreach. If everyone were taxed at the same rate, there would be no tax loop holes for lobbyists to exploit, and therefore fewer lobbyists in Washington! And taxes couldn’t be raised so easily because you would be taxing EVERYONE more. REPEAL/REPLACE the 16th Amendment!
    IF you look at the very first Congressional Record (from the first Congress under our current Constitution), that first Congress wished they could have a national sales tax, but said there was no way to be present at every business to collect the taxes. Now, there is a way. Personally, I prefer the flat income tax, but I’m willing to try the other. Just no loopholes for this business or that!! That draws lobbyists likes flies!

  • Whitehead Laurie

    They need to repeal or rewrite the 16th amendment that gives Congress the power to tax any income from any source without apportionment based on census. This is the power source for federal overreach. If everyone were taxed at the same rate, there would be no tax loop holes for lobbyists to exploit, and therefore fewer lobbyists in Washington! And taxes couldn’t be raised so easily because you would be taxing EVERYONE more. REPEAL/REPLACE the 16th Amendment!
    IF you look at the very first Congressional Record (from the first Congress under our current Constitution), that first Congress wished they could have a national sales tax, but said there was no way to be present at every business to collect the taxes. Now, there is a way. Personally, I prefer the flat income tax, but I’m willing to try the other. Just no loopholes for this business or that!! That draws lobbyists likes flies!

  • Anonymous

    He wont fight it. He will some how sneak in his own, bent to his will, ammendments to aid in his own benifits

  • Anonymous

    He wont fight it. He will some how sneak in his own, bent to his will, ammendments to aid in his own benifits

  • Anonymous

    If they represent a majority of the people, it is good! If they act like Obama and the Democrats it is bad!

  • Anonymous

    If they represent a majority of the people, it is good! If they act like Obama and the Democrats it is bad!

  • Anonymous

    What states are represented?

  • James LaBarre

    The rights to a Convention of Stares also needs to re-iterate that states *DO* have the right to secede, despite what people think the outcome of the US Civil War was. That needs to be the next step if the Central Powers get any further out of hand.

    And while they’re at it; they need to open a means for states to split when the reasonably-minded rural and semi-suburban areas find themselves being drowned out by mumble-brained large population centers (such as NYC).

  • James LaBarre

    And you *don’t* think that fanning the passions of the general populace is a good or necessary idea? Seems to me to be the only way to kick a sleeping country into consciousness. Right now they can’t handle anything more complex than wondering if Kim K or Snooki are pregnant again.

  • Pablo Descartes

    says the kid with a south park avatar.

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Poor Pablo, he can’t debate on the merits of the subject so he focuses on irrelevant things.

  • John Scott

    I think a lot of support is building against so much power at the Federal levels of government. For one thing the Federal government is so inept at anything it does I have to wonder why they think they can do more? Harry Reid exempting his own people from Obama care simply proves that even Mr. Reid does not trust a government program. When you make the soup but won’t eat it, that says a lot about how bad it is.

  • Obie Wan

    How do get from term limits and limits on federal taxation and spending to globalists and power elites? By the way,you’ve got globalists and power elites currently in charge of your government right now !!!

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Let me see if I got this straight. You want to rile the peoples’ passions and then attempt to alter the Constitution?

    Not a very rational plan.

  • Anonymous

    God help us we do need revival,this could take place and not enough states go along and it could wake up the ‘sleeping giant’ and scare the progressives back or the reps could act like the whores they are and sell us out to the progressives, read the Bible and look at recent history, which way will it go,,,, pray for revival it IS OUR ONLY chance

  • FingerBlisters

    Well, besides term limits, I hope they make amendments that will prevent government officials giving themselves special treatment and put them all in the social security program and Obamacare.

  • Karen

    I may sound like a broken record since I have made this comment before, so sorry for that but…What/Who will make the Congress/President/Supreme Court follow any amendment to the Constitution if they do not follow the Constitution now? That is my concern – how will enforcement occur? I don’t care how the States may decide to change the Constitution, if we have a lawless federal government such as we have today, there will be no enforcement of amendments. What do we expect to happen? Do we expect that just because we open the Constitution up to amendments that our lawless Congress/President/Supreme Court will change their ways? I don’t think so. I agree that this sounds like a great idea but if there is no one to enforce existing or new amendments to the Constitution, a lot of good this will do. Please tell me what I am missing here.

  • Carl Showalter

    AMEN

  • Anonymous

    I know that both Levin and Beck are patriots who believe in the Constitution. I have not read Levin’s book. I would love for the states to be able to do something, but I do not see how you get around what Article V actually says:

    “The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof…”

    It says that Congress would call the convention after the states apply to it.

  • Pablo Descartes

    Actually I just have no respect for silly libtrolls with south park avatars. For my standing on Article 5 you can check my disqus as I prefer to debate with adults.

  • BlueMN

    The “majority of the people” voted for President Obama and the Democrats. Sometimes in a democracy, your side loses.

  • Anonymous

    I hope, no, I pray that we have level headed, common sense people attend and pose good amendments. I for one would like to see the 2nd Amendment changed to include language, not to take anything away from, but, that adds clarity to what the framers intended.

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Wanting the Constitution interpreted using original intent and having it enforced, makes one a “silly libtroll”?

    Re: Avatars

    Did it ever occur to you that if my avatar made me a kid, then your avatar would make you a dumb animal?

    Acting intellectually superior is a poor excuse for not having a substantive argument.

    But that’s okay, I prefer to debate/convo with reasoned human beings (regardless of age). Hence, there is no need for me to check Disqus for your standings, you are irrelevant to this conversation.

  • BlueMN

    You rail against constitutionally elected office holders, then say “The states have to do something or the people will,” then in the next breath you worry about “anarchy and mobocracy?” Pick a side.

  • Anonymous

    Are you suggesting that we just skip the formalities and head into an armed conflict?

  • Anonymous

    Looking at some polls on various issues, I’m not so sure that this COS is a safety chute: it might be more like cutting off the chute — then we will get the government we truly deserve.

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely correct. ANY law can be disregarded. If the government continues to disregard the Constitution and any new amendments that may come about, then the next step will begin. You probably would not like the next step, but that is why we have the 2nd Amendment.

  • Gary Barber

    The Constitution has already been altered. The direct election of Senators has made it so that the Senate is no longer looking out for the State that sent them. Money and the loss of men of character & virtue in elected office has turned government into a cesspool. We NEED term limits if we are going to have any chance at turning this country around.

  • Pablo Descartes

    My avatar is a pic of my pet Pablo, but whatever slick.
    Laugh, delete…

  • Gary Barber

    That is why you have your state pass a resolution about what can be discussed in the Convention. If you send them with the understanding that proposing anything outside of term limits and a balanced budget amendment will result in removal from the delegation, you don’t have to worry about the Constitution having our protections removed.

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    No, the results of that would be horrific and we still would end up with something else that has little resemblance to our current Constitution.

    John Adams defines what the real American Revolution was:

    “The Revolution was effected before the War commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments of their duties and obligations … This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people, was
    the real American Revolution.” ~John Adams

    That is where the real battle is at, not coming up with more silly laws for the elites to ignore. Unless the American people regain their virtue, no laws can save us from ourselves.

    ~BTG

    “Machiavel, discoursing on these matters, finds virtue to be so essentially necessary to the establishment and preservation of liberty, that he thinks it impossible for a corrupted people to set up a good government, or for a tyranny to be introduced if they be virtuous; and makes this conclusion, ‘That where the matter (that is, the body of the people) is not corrupted, tumults and disorders do not hurt; and where it is corrupted, good laws do no good:’ which being confirmed by reason and experience, I think no wise man has ever contradicted him.” ~Algernon Sydney

  • Lance Stinson

    :) THIS IS A MUST WATCH ! Article V Amendment Presentation by Lou Marin and Loren Enns

    Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJxPspvfuLQ&feature=youtu.be

  • Lance Stinson

    I Am American http://iamamerican.info/ We must pressure our State legislators to unleash the Constitution’s Article V Convention which allows the States to bypass the federal government and ratify those constitutional amendments deemed necessary to reform it!

  • Anonymous

    Return the authority back to the state legislatures for voting for US Senators before holding a constitutional convention!!

  • Pablo Descartes

    Indiana has passed a law requiring the delegate must follow rules set by the state, must vote as legislature demands or it is a felony. The state also has the right to replace the delegate if legislature disapproves. That was the reason for the Mt. Vernon meeting, to insure that this will not be a runaway convention, and will not be influenced by the progressive infiltrators in our federal government.
    I anticipate progtrolls going crazy on forums as this to dissuade conservatives against the state convention process. Don’t be fooled. This is how We the People take our country back, by returning the power to the states.
    This is not a Constitutional Convention, there is only one of those, which created the Constitution.

  • Arlen Crotchett

    If a convention of states is a solution to the centralization of government, I am all for it. Someone has to pull the reins and stop the destruction of the freedoms most Americans treasure. Congress will not act against the other branches to restrain the overreach, so the states must step up to the challenge.

  • Pablo Descartes

    Ok, why is your disqus private? “Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.”
    So you’re not an obama supporter?
    Are you a Ron Paul supporter?

  • Anonymous

    Without the 17th Amendment, the states would never have suffered their “representatives” to vote for the abomination Obamacare.

  • Anonymous

    The current government has collapse as the goal. And I do not think I will like what they intend after.

  • Pablo Descartes

    Any amendment must still be ratified by 3/4 ‘state legislatures’ or by convention in 3/4 of states. The final say is up to the states. This bypasses boehner’s unwillingness to do the tough job of serving We the People.
    “when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three-fourths thereof”
    This is returning the power to the states to pass the amendments that need passed (i.e. voter i.d. laws & term limits), while bypassing the corrupted senate and dingy harry reid.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, an amendment must be ratified by 3/4 of the states, but the Amendment says that a con-con will be called BY CONGRESS (not by the states) upon the application of 2/3 of the states. It does say that Congress SHALL call a convention if 2/3 of the states call for it–in other words, it is required to do so–but I have no faith in any of the Democrats, and even some Republicans, following the law or the Constitution.

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Hi Gary,

    The corrupt politicians are merely the symptom of the problem. The blame ultimately lies at the feet of ‘We the People’ for electing these unprincipled politicians and then re-electing them.

    I’m all for repealing some very bad Amendments, but we don’t need a Convention to do that.

    ~BTG

    “But I go on this great republican principle, that the people will have virtue and intelligence to select men of virtue and wisdom. Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. No theoretical checks, no form of government, can render us secure. To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness
    without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea.” ~James Madison’s Speech at the Virginia Ratifying Convention

  • Meat Fighter

    http://www.conventionofstates.com

    Get involved! Contact your state Representative.

    Florida District 4 is on board with Representative Matt Gaetz!

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    You are far to obsessed with labels.

    “When you become entitled to exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers, ‘just men who will rule in the fear of God.’ The preservation of [our] government depends on the faithful discharge of this Duty; if the citizens neglect their Duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made, not for the public good so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the Laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizen will be violated or disregarded. If [our] government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine Commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the Laws.” ~Noah Webster

  • Pablo Descartes

    I do understand your concerns, yet I fear this is our last ‘political’, peaceful Constitutional option. Will Conservatives take the senate in 2014, is there any assurance rampant voter fraud won’t steal the election again in 2016?

  • Pablo Descartes

    The only label I was concerned about is your support of barack obama.

  • binksjim11

    i understand what your getting at but when the only options we have are to throw out our current government in favor of a new constitution and a new governing body, i think the convention is a better way. while your well versed in the ramblings of a few, why don’t you read the declaration of independence, i think it points out that despite the fact our government thinks they are in control, they should be weary of the people of this country because divided we are easy to control, united we can topple any nation. that is why the government should fear we the people!

  • Anonymous

    I agree. If we don’t stop it now we will be fighting a war here in our country and obama will call out the National Guard on us. We will be fighting for our lives. We have to support anything or anyone who can get us back to a semi-normal America. I am all for it and I totally support anything we can do.

  • binksjim11

    who people support isn’t the problem. the problem if they are so blinded by their devotion to one party they become complacent. anyone who is willing to stand by the constitution and the founder of this nation is justified to worry.

  • Anonymous

    You and everyone else need to wake up. Do you not see what obama is doing. He is in his own way changing the Constitution right before I eyes. He is writing and passing his own laws, then rewriting them again. Example – obamacare. He has taken all the power he wants to do whatever he wants. He doesn’t care about anything but transforming America – that is his goal and he is almost there. He will not anything or anyone stop him – no matter WHAT!! We have no choice but to act right now – or – we won’t have a great country. And, we have to protect Israel as well. We need to pray about our next time to vote, God will lead us. Although, God has already written our story and the ending, it is close to the end of the world.

  • binksjim11

    i know that we all fear a government run amok. however the fear should fall squarely on the government, because if you think the military is in full support of this current administration your sadly mistaken. if these governors can further protect us from the government than i’m all for it. if they fail then it should be a wake up call to the voting populous to fix things. if that fails then it fall on “We the People” to jettison this current government structure and create a new constitution to protect us from this ever happening again.

  • 4WIW

    Agreeing with your posts, BTG.
    I would also add, http://www.principledpolicy.com, has two great testimonies before the Ohio legislature.

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Why would a new Constitution and a new governing body be any different then what we have now?

    The Constitution is not whats broken.

    Also, what makes you think this unknown new Constitution will be better then our present?

    You really want to risk it all on wishful thinking?

    The correct course of action is for the States to nullify unconstitutional laws. You can learn more about State nullification here:

    http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/category/nullification-deniers/

  • Pablo Descartes

    I disagree. Anyone still supporting barack hussien obama at this point is a problem, though I don’t believe southpark does. When I see an anomoly I feel the need to analyze. Guess that’s my idiosyncrasy. And no, I’m not a republican, and loathe the two-party system.

  • Paus

    They ARE in the ACA program.

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Unlike Glenn Beck, I have been arguing that Obama is not a natural born Citizen. Therefore, Barrack does not meet the necessary CONSTITUTIONAL requirements to be President.

    So please, spare me the assumption that I am an Obama supporter.

    All Obama has done that is unconstitutional is still unconstitutional. But it won’t be if people allow the Constitution to be legally changed.

    If you think it is only Obama and the Democrats that want to transform America, then you are in for a rude awakening. There are factions on both the left and the right that will subvert our Constitution in a heartbeat.

    The correct course of action is State Nullification:

    http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/category/nullification-deniers/

  • FallingRoc

    Just because the Obamination got the “majority” of the popular vote, does NOT give him the RIGHT to ignore, and change laws that he doesn’t like…Our Constitutional Republic is a nation of LAWS…everyone must follow the Laws…if they don’t like the law, then ONLY Congress has the power to change or modify said law…the Obamination does NOT HAVE THAT POWER…
    Preserve and Defend the Constitution

  • binksjim11

    right. however what i was getting at is if they(the elected officials) keep failing us at some point we will be left with little choice.
    the constitutions as it is now is slowly becoming perverted from what it originally stood for, sure modernization would be a good step, but how much longer will we sit back and watch our rights slip away.
    no one is proposing a new constitution, but if the government becomes so oppressive that the only option we have is to tear it down and start over, then creating a new constitution would be a step toward a new america.
    i wouldn’t risk other peoples live for the sake of a radical idea, i would rather risk my life to spare the many, then to risk the many in favor of the few.

  • binksjim11

    i agree, i just find it hard to believe anyone really supports this “POTUS”. anymore any ways. i wasn’t trying to give you a hard time.

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Hi 4WIW,

    Thanks for the link.

    This will be the final nail in the United States of America’s coffin if we don’t stop this radical course of action.

    Amazing how many people no longer see the US Constitution as a miracle.

    ~BTG

    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” ~John Adams

  • Joe Rizoli

    John Adams said that the Constitution was made for a moral and religious people.
    We don’t have that anymore. This convention will l be molded by amoral Godless people who will change laws to make perversion law.
    Homosexuality will get free reign, abortion, and worse those persons behind it, power mad Zionist Jews will have the country where they always wanted it using this Constitutional loop hole. These Talmudist will bring in their warped perverted beliefs and you can bet Israel will be high in the list for special honors and foreign policy decisions that will probably lead us into WW3 thanks to their belief in the Sampson option. Freedom of speech will be done with, bullying laws will be enforced that will include criticism of illegal immigration, homosexuality, Israel, the holocaust and those who expose that fraud.

    This Convention will be the excuse to make the USA another Sodom and Gomorrah. The perverts will now be making the Laws and it will be the Law. This thing about taxes is just a false flag. Psalms 2 is right around the corner, the wheat and the weeds will need harvesting and the Angels will be doing it. Dan 2:44 will finally become fulfilled.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not arguing against a con-con, and I don’t have a better option. I was just clarifying what Article V means. Definitely agree that what we’re doing isn’t working. In fact, Congress is not even trying to become more Constitutional.

    I am surprised and pleased that the ideas put forth by Mark Levin are catching on this quickly. A lot of people are awake.

  • Anonymous

    Watching it now. I agree that it’s a must-watch. It clarifies the differences in the current tax system, the flat tax (which doesn’t abolish the IRS, and the fair tax (which does), plus the Article V issue.

  • jo blo

    This is a typical lazy conservative ‘solution’. How do we conservatives approach government problems? With more government. Want change in D.C.? Elect the right politicians. Then we’re surprised when the bastards we elect screw us. And now we want to do an ARticle V covention. Brilliant. Because there’s no way libtards will hijack the process, right? Why do you think you don’t hear the libs raise a peep when conservative idiots raise the possibility of an Article V convention? Because they lick their chomps knowing that that will give them the opportunity to finish the country off.

    But we’ve gotten this far down the path to destruction because conservatives are lazy idiots. Instead of taking our culture back, and doing the heavy lifting required to socially discredit and destroy liberals, we try ‘band-aid solutions’ like this. America’s headstone will read: ‘Killed by lazy, idiot ‘conservatives”.

  • Feet2Fire

    Our government should care about OUR PEOPLE, instead of this “Federal vs. States” mind-set. What they are doing to OUR PEOPLE is criminal… taxation without representation, for starters. Obamacare is the biggest assault on our people and our economy that government has ever attempted; and we have the Supreme Court (especially Roberts) in large part to “thank.” Can the COS address the treachery of the Supreme Court while they’re at it?

  • Feet2Fire

    Fantastic quotation! Thanks.

  • Feet2Fire

    “Creating a new constitution” sounds like an invitation for modern-day Political Correctness to take over. WHOSE “politics” (ethics/standards/values) will be deemed CORRECT and win recognition/inclusion and WHOSE will be deemed OUT-MODED and OBSOLETE and tossed out? The Constitution is not the problem; the problem is the PEOPLE who have wormed their way into Congress and the W.H. and are systematically dismantling our country.

  • Feet2Fire

    Sound logic. “Fundamentally changing” the Constitution, like “fundamentally changing” our medical-care system, is not going to solve our problems. We need a FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE IN THE WHITE HOUSE–and it cannot be “Cankles”!!!

  • Feet2Fire

    Quote: “‘Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is
    wholly inadequate to the government of any other.’ ~John Adams”
    –Well, there you have it. We are no longer moral or religious. THAT is what has allowed our country to disintegrate before our very eyes.

  • mspatdev

    obammy has changed the Constitutuion. All of the states that want obammy in, now is the good time to leave AND THEY CAN HAVE THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT AND RULES IN CHICAGO. It will be a great place as the dictator and all of his minions are from there. They can control there own government. The states that are trying to obey the Constitution stays with OUR CONSTITUTION AND ALL OF THE BUILDINGS WILL BELONG TO US. We will have more people and that our ancestors built up this orignal country. So long, obammy and your minions. You are form Chicageo and your w/h staff is from there. You will find that you are all socialist and communist as they are now. Good-bye nit wit.

  • mspatdev

    That is what obammy wants us to do. He has the militia with the UN help to come and destroy us.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately the 14th Amendment was a blow to the 10th (specifically, the “application” of the constitution to the states, as well as the fed). Effectively, the 14th Amendment was used to bind the states’ rights.

  • Anonymous

    US Const. Article V
    “The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage (i.e. vote) in the Senate.”
    Just so we’re all talking about the same thing.

  • Anonymous

    @The Blue Tail Gadfly
    Though the specific language “state legislatures would then send delegates to the convention, with each state getting one vote on proposed Amendments” is not used in the Article, it does refer to the ratification by either the legislatures, or the conventions in those states (thus implying that you can have a separate group do the ratification process). As for whether the convention is done by Congress anyway (after the petition by the states, etc), I am not sure yet, but will see if the framers wrote about it, and think on it.

  • Anonymous

    How do “you” have “your state” do anything? That is the whole point. They do what they want to do, and ignore what you or I want.

  • Anonymous

    Simple… once a Convention is in session, they may do anything they vote to do, up to and including scrapping the entire thing and starting over.

  • https://www.gardenandoutdoorsolutions.com/ Mark Powls

    I don’t believe the lawmakers of today have the moral depth or historical and philosophical education to successfully tamper with the Constitution without further perverting it. All they need to do is go back to pre 1871 Constitution and repeal every amendment thereafter, including the ACT of 1871, Federal Reserve Act, and reform the IRS so that the people control it and not the other way around. There is no need to tamper with the original ORGANIC CONSTITUTION.

  • Idlan

    But they do not have to pay the full cost like others that make less than they do yearly.

  • Anonymous

    I think the key to it is state income taxes rather than Federal. If the states claim lower income taxes, and of those taxes fund the limited Federal government by vote of the states, then you effectively limit what the Federal government can do, if anything, at all. Repeal the 16th and institute a reasonable percentage flat tax so everyone has equal skin in the game and work from there.

  • edward0747

    does anyone have a list of the participants and where they were from?

  • Taylor

    Hey BlueTail. The TAC, Tenth Amendment Center, is pushing for nullification action as their primary route to fixing this mess. You may be interested in looking them over, I’ve found them to be solid. TenthAmendmentCenter.com.

  • Anonymous

    We all know misuses of IRS powers to steal 2012 elections , by obama government operatives or fans no level is too low for them to stoop to and no punishment for them giving out government info to third party !!! ??? Now thoughts to ponder of a another scenario of misuse by obama administration NSA monitor everything will put you on a blacklist for opposing obama or a conservative !! They could give info to third parties to impede your freedom of speech or to silence you like IRS keep group from getting organized to get the word out !! Question will obama operative in the NSA give out your passwords,personal info etc indirectly or secretly to third parties to punish you and impede your freedom of speech ?? Mess up your computer, frame you put porn on it or threats from you on computer without your knowledge, give info to hackers and I.D thefts rings ,democrats thugs groups all this to impede you from getting your views out and silence your freedom of speech to scare you into silence!!! This is too much power should be law for government workers IRS ,NSA, etc in giving out info to third parties a twenty five years sentence with no early time out or parol unless you furnish legit info you were taking directives from higher ups !! I would not put it pass obama in doing this now with his operative which insulated from for cover he would stoop to any level to win or steal more seats in 2014 election so he can carry out evil agenda in bringing our great country down !!

  • Gary Barber

    State Legislators are much easier to talk to, and have to be more receptive, and responsive to the concerns of their constituents. I know it may be hard, but try not to be dense.

  • Guest

    I believe there are enough genuine patriots who are working hard to lay the ground work for a true COS in order to amend the constitution to limit the powers of the federal government and get back to government of the people. These like minded people are not a wild-eyed fringe group; but students of the constitution searching for a solution to the status quo: e.g. a president who runs the executive branch like a monarchy and a power hungry congress whose primary concern is getting re-elected. The only people who would not support such amendments are the fat cats in Washington.

  • Petie Chisum

    I believe this meeting was called by genuine patriots who are working hard to lay the ground work for a COS in order to amend the constitution to limit the powers of the federal government and get back to government by the people. These like minded patriots are not a wild-eyed fringe group; but students of the constitution searching for a solution to the status quo: e.g. a president who runs the executive branch like a monarchy and a power hungry congress whose primary concern is getting re-elected. The only people who would not support such amendments are the fat cats in Washington

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  • Petie Chisum

    Well said, Gary. Article V was drafted by the Founders for the purpose of preventing (or curing) the government’s concentration of power in Washington and failure to recognize State’s rights. And Thanks, James – fanning the passions of the people is a good/necessary idea. Apathy is what got us in this mess.

  • Anonymous

    Pray tell me just who is going to address our “depraved condition”? The COS is the way to address the condition. It’s certain that the House and the Senate and especially the Executive aren’t going to contribute.They are the reason for the “depraved condition”. The “Power elites” are already changing our constitution and our individual freedoms are being squashed on almost a daily basis. Of course we need a spiritual revolution but we aren’t going to get it by complaining about the smell until we realize that it is our own mess that we are standing in that is the source of the smell.

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Are you seriously trying to assert that the people who want to recklessly alter the Constitution are the genuine patriots, while all others are fat cats in Washington?

    If these were truly genuine patriots who are students of the Constitution, there would be no need to resort to sophistry in order to advance these fallacious arguments.

    Are you unaware that our present Constitution is already one of enumerated powers, yet it still isn’t obeyed?

    To suggest we need more laws instead of first enforcing the existing ones, is the same argument in principle that the Democrats have put forth in regards to gun laws.

    You can scapegoat the politicians all you want; but the buck stops with, ‘We the People’ for electing and re-electing them, i.e. for essentially aiding and abetting the lawless.

    Article V does nothing to address this problem, nor can it.

    “Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone, which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure than they have it now, they may change their rulers and the forms of government, but they will not obtain a lasting liberty.” ~John Adams

  • The Blue Tail Gadfly

    Hi Taylor,

    I came across the “Tenthers” (lol) earlier this year when Missouri was attempting to nullify all federal gun laws.

  • Paus

    Wrong info, again. The Congressmen are not allowed to have the ‘employer share’ many millions of Americans in the private sector are allowed. Some of their staff are allowed it, and they had to be identified by 1 Nov 2013. Senators and Representatives are obliged to pay the full price. Those that are not in the ACA work in or for the White House such as Secty Sebellius.

  • Socialism: Organized Evil

    I’ve found this to be a useful lamp of liberty holding timeless truths for today’s course of human events: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0094KY878

  • oak logman

    The Convention of the States (COS) also know as a Constitutional Convention Con-Con)
    REMEMBER: The U.S. Congress decides the mode of ratification. The state legislators can be circumvented if the Congress calls for ratifying conventions. For the evidence showing the inability of the States to limit an Article V Convention go here:
    http://leg.mt.gov/bills/2007/Minutes/Senate/Exhibits/jus71a15.pdf

    Our legislators are being sold a bill of goods and have NEVER verified the facts they were asked to support.

  • loran

    That’s the way the progressives want people to read the 14th amendment. That is not the meaning intended by the writer of the amendment. As his neither the way the progressives have corrupted the use of anchor babies.

  • loran

    I would suggest that people interested in this process of to “conventionofstates.com” to learn more. It’s really very interesting.

  • John Smith

    levin is wrong, 1000 Nanci Pelosi’s and 1000 John McCain’s show up and change the constitution.