Did Glenn just admit socialism might actually work?

“Socialism actually does work.”

That is probably not a statement you expected to see on this website, let alone hear Glenn say. But, on radio this morning, Glenn explained the very specific instance in which socialist and totalitarian principles actually work quite well. And, in this particular situation, socialism actually works in tandem with freedom.

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Socialism actually does work, and I do believe totalitarianism is the best form of government… in my home.

I’m willing to subsidize my children. They do live in a socialist household. I am willing to take care of then, even if they don’t work – up to a point. And when it comes to totalitarianism in my home, my wife and I will decide what our children eat. We will decide where they go to school. I will decide how much money they have access to. I will decide how much television time they have access to. I will decide when they get up and when they go to bed, what temperature the house is… I’m totally down with totalitarianism. I will decide when they leave the house. I will decide when they can date. I will decide when they need to be back. I will decide who they can play with. I will decide who they can’t. I will make their church decisions for them until they are old enough to live on their own.

That’s where totalitarianism ends. That’s where socialism ends because when they become adults, they are free to live their lives as they choose. We call that liberty.

Ask people: What is liberty? ‘Oh, it’s freedom.’ Not really. Not really… Liberty comes from doing the right things and then choosing how to live your life. You could have freedom to do anything… Freedom doesn’t last very long unless you understand responsibility too, and that’s why I have a totalitarian home. And it becomes less and less totalitarian as the kids become more and more responsible. I am trying to teach them to have liberty and freedom – a way for them to go out and make their own way, make their own choices.

The government is not the parent of my child. It is not the parent of me. Period. The government doesn’t have a right to tell me what to do. The government doesn’t have a right to tell my children what to do or how to do it. I will make those decisions and I will live with those consequences. I will make the decision, and I will live with the consequence. That’s liberty. Whether they are good or bad, I made the decision. I have a right to be free.

But, as more and more people are born to single parents, as more and more people are born to broken homes and to broken people, the government sees more and more opportunity. The government says it is an opportunity to become people’s parents because we have to be their parents. ‘It is about the children!’ No, it’s not. It is about totalitarianism. It gives the government a chance to control not just who’s born in poverty but to control everyone. You think they really want to help the children? More than enough money has been spent over the past 50 years to help the children… It doesn’t help the children. It causes dependency. It causes despondency. It causes poverty. The cycle continues.

Socialism, totalitarianism, I’m totally fine with that – in my own home. No place else. So God help me – or should I say – so God help us because we actually know the truth and we know the truth comes from nature itself and nature’s God. I’ll serve God. I’ll serve my family. I’ll serve my neighbors. But Washington, leave me alone.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn is absolutely correct! Every Christian home with children is a socialistic operated home. If the children don’t mature they will not give up their dependency – and they are certain to vote for any salesman promising care-and-keeping with public debt or someone else’s money. The same is true of young animals resisting leave of their parents to go out into the seemingly dangerous uncertainties of life.

    • NPC

      Well said.

  • Anonymous

    “Nature’s God”?

    God created nature. God is not a subset of nature. Nature is a subset of God. “God’s nature”.

    • Dean Luurtsema

      I think the English construct chain can imply the reverse. It doesn’t imply here that God belongs to Nature, but rather that Nature belongs to him by the nature of the nouns. For example, one might say “Fido’s master”. This does not mean that Fido owns his master or controls him/her but rather it assumes the relationship and all of its implications. In the same way i think as historically said, that we can indeed say “nature’s God”.

      • Anonymous

        Oh, how eloquent!

      • Anonymous

        I can buy that, but it depends upon how one views God and the context of the discussion.

        This article comes on the heels of a previous discussion of “Nature’s Law”. For me problem is the context: “and we know the truth comes from nature itself and nature’s God”. AND. The problem is Truth does not come from nature, Truth isn’t an “it”. All Truth comes from God. God is Truth.

        Semantics maybe but some people are deceived by Pantheism — especially when the discussion is focused on “nature”. God and “Nature” become blurred and interchangeable.

        • MarsBarsTru7

          Well put.

        • Dean Luurtsema

          Oh to clarify from your first post, classic orthodox Christianity would not say that nature is a “subset’ of God, but rather it is wholly other than Creator God. God= Creator. Everything else = creature. The two do not mingle their ontological existence. However God, while wholly “other” interacts with His creature in specific ways.

    • Anonymous

      No, looks like Glenn has a different opinion to yours.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    Problem is liberals think the government should be all our parents because liberals no better. Oh I will say this again because it gets under the skin of liberals Jesus is not a socialist nor would never be because he was not for forced giving.

    • MarsBarsTru7

      I love that picture!

  • http://www.facebook.com/warren.hunt.986 Warren Hunt

    socialism is for the birds

    • Herbert Shallcross

      Actually, birds recognize no authority higher than their own choices.

  • landofaahs

    I same the dictatorial things for the important things but the minor things that are lesson teachers should be made by the kids a little at a time as to build responsibility and teach values. Dictatorial Stasi regimes always lead to resentment and a falling away. We are to train up a child in the way he should go not smother it.

  • Johnathan Read

    * Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan Quote:

  • http://opinionated-american.com/ Opinionated American

    Excellent metaphor. I would add; I m my home I would add the choices of consequences and privileges of choices they will make Reward them accordingly to the choice. So when they do leave as adults they will understand. Unlike the gov now. My way or the highway and be politically correct. That not freedom.

  • Anonymous

    Well, Glenn, now that you described totalitarianism and socialism so eloquently, I want NO part of it anywhere anytime. What you’re doing at home is trying to raise your children the right way as you see it, that’s all. Your meaning of socialism seems good for so long and then you switch to something else. Sorry, totalitarianism or socialism doesn’t work that way.

  • landofaahs

    Socialism only works in 2 places; In Heaven where they don’t need it and Hell where they already have it.—Ronaldus Magnus.

  • Anonymous

    Good segment Glenn.I agree liberty and freedom are being responsible and doing the right thing.Problem is our government is irresponsible and and reckless.Did not George Washington say that?He was right.

  • Anonymous

    The only thing is if you are the person to decide everything then where do the family conferences come in? Or don’t you have those anymore?

  • Anonymous

    Whatever happened to adulthood?

  • MarsBarsTru7

    That’s monarchy. Every parent is the monarch of their own household. If it was socialism you’d be sharing your income equally with your children.

  • Sargonarhes

    Only difference is Glenn isn’t taxing his richest child to pay for the others, spreading the wealth. His money is coming from a source outside of his example of socialism where he offers a service that others are paying for. For socialism to work this example would imply the government has to be a money maker, which we know is a flawed idea. The analogy is flawed.

  • https://www.gardenandoutdoorsolutions.com/ Mark Powls

    Well said.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for that incredibly simplistic message Glenn. How about you having a real discussion about real poverty and its causes in America. How about discussing the millions of people that can’t find jobs because theirs was lost to China, Vietnam and India. What economic policy is stopping those jobs from returning?

    • Anonymous

      Society is definitely responsible for homelessness and its causes, not the government! Good measurable results come from realistic individual volunteer care that has coin and skin in the game.

      PS: Homeless experts in the government arguments always go circular and rarely solve any long-term problems. Arguments always go from homeless Veterans to mental illness to alcohol and drug addiction to joblessness to battered women, etc. – never-ever coming to the truth about the expensive, unmeasured and failed programs they run with government grants.

      The death of American compassion and individual volunteer and church responsibility began in the early 1900’s.

      • Anonymous

        But doesn’t government ideally represent society? Safety nets emerge in response to inadequate local solutions for great suffering from unemployment, illness, disability, death and old age. Abuse is the problem with safety nets, not the help it provides the truly needy.

        • Anonymous

          Private solutions are inadequate because over 50% of our taxes are used for public and crony safety nets. Government (Jesus impersonators) should not rob the people of what they can and should do for themselves and others any more than a parent should rob a child of what a child can and should do for him/herself.

          • Anonymous

            Apparently you consider all entitlement to be theft. Disabled people would be left to die on the streets without assistance. Poor-houses of the past would return as a humiliating destiny for the elderly without social security. These were serious problems that have been helped by entitlements. These programs resulted from inadequate private solutions. It would be a step backward for America to return to the problems of the past. Abuse and fraud should be addressed by Congress.

    • hmschoolmom

      Your questions are simplistic also. There are many reasons people can’t find jobs–not simply that they lost jobs to China et. al. My husband can’t find employees to work for $9 hr because they make more money on welfare, food stamps, health assistance and disability. That’s a FACT. People don’t want to work. Glen was not addressing the abolition of assistance. He was addressing the intrusive oversight into the lives of Americans who are doing just fine without being limited in their freedoms of choice regarding how we live our lives–what to eat, how to educate, and how to light our homes and flush our toilets. Government tyrranical oversight into businesses is what sent jobs overseas. Do away with some of the bureaucratic red tape of nightmare with EPA preposterous junk among much more and you could see a country flourish where those who need help can get it again. Stupid red tape is what causes us, as a nation to throw away TONS of food that could be given to the needy, causes stores to DESTROY tons of clothing that could be given away. That’s the problem. Too much government causes that.

      • Anonymous

        I’ve experienced the same labor problem as in your example in my company. That doesn’t mean the questions I posed are simplistic. The answers to those questions are quite complicated, especially when it comes to the benefits and detriments of international trade. Your generalization about people not wanting to work is unfair. Most people want to work. Some people take advantage of the system.

        It’s useless to argue broad assertions about government overreach. Issues are dealt with on a case by case basis because each issue has its complications worthy of debate. Entitlements are a looming economic problem for the country. Hard decisions are inevitable and so is increased revenue.

        • Anonymous

          I will agree with your assumption, that the troubling issues now facing our nation must be dealt with, and in a case by case bases. My premise though, first we must make right the knowledge pool we draw from, before attempting to understanding each case.

          If we as a nation, cannot determine what is good or bad – politically – economically – in religion, academics etc.our system will never recover. If our constitution is open to interpretation, we are through. This problem in how to deal with the growing anarchy, has to do with the moral aspect of the decisions we make. So where do we find information that helps us, in solving our problems, We find it In the sacred writings of God. Men can, and do, argue the issues exhaustively-unending, but our problems only seem to grow worse, when will we take a look into the mind of God – what might he have to say about the matter.

          Our government officials do not know, our clergy do not understand, the governments around the globe will never achieve peace among themselves, nor will America ever slow its decent to ruin, unless, they look toward God.

          Again, men can leave God out of the equation, and again, our problems will never be solved.

          The simple answer – God has allowed mankind to form his own governments, if history be an accurate depiction of past events, then what should propel itself to the forefront of our minds, is, men have never known peace, or have they been successful in governing themselves.

          The solution to our plight, is in the understanding of why we humans are here for on planet . The only way to discover that, is found in the pages of the holy bible. God directed the first man in how to govern himself…that entails, continually beseeching God for his guidance. As soon as the first man decided to go it alone, without any help from God, that’s when God declared, go ahead then, create your own governments, but they will fail, and mans recorded history has so far, proven him right. By the way things are transpiring here at home, I don’t see anything changing from what has already been tried in government before.

          The thing that keeps men from a true understanding is a misconception of the true gospel. The gospel as God clearly points out, (is the good-news message of the Kingdom or Government of God). It always has been, but men have never been willing to look his direction, no wonder our problems are only growing worse, instead, we desire professional panels – void of Godly knowledge, to solve our never ending problems.

          What men have never been able to achieve, in their self-designed-governmental-systems – God will. His government, and how it works, has been written down for thousands of years. Something our founders should be given credit for, in their wisdom, they understood, when they went out of their way to copy as much of Gods design as possible, where to go for national guidance. Unfortunately, today, our people have placed God far from them, and things are going from bad to worse in a hurry.

          Where there is no vision the people perish. Currently, American leadership, have no vision.

          • Anonymous

            Are you advocating America being a Theocracy? The God of which religion are you referring to? Which book?

          • Anonymous

            Of sorts yes, the difference being, having the one true God – the only God – leading over, or, a better concept would be guiding over those administrating our governmental institution.

            You see, other nations have never gotten that part right, the idea was an honorable one, but somehow the governments carried out by men, not so much. The Holy Roman Empire comes to mind, where converts where often brought into the Roman sphere of influence, by threat of life or death, so that would never be permitted here in the States, nor would the Islamic design, which I would consider far more barbaric than the former.

            Throughout history, men have attempted using every conceived formula their human minds could formulate, of ruling over themselves and every single attempt has failed in misery – usually, ending in flame and ash.

            If the idea were an easy one, I suppose it would have been accomplished long ago.

            But, the reality of our times suggests, we (meaning all of us) should at least, take a look and see for ourselves what lies in the pages of Gods sacred word, the Holy Bible.

            You said of yourself, that you were reared-up primarily with a Catholic background, so I would assume, that you are at least somewhat familiar, with a story found in the book of Daniel involving the king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar.

            You may recall, that this king had a dream. This dream troubled the king so much, that he even suffered through nightmares because of it. He sought out help from his most regarded servants, – magicians, enchanters, sorcerers, and astrologers, but all, in-turn, failed to answer the mystery of the meaning behind the kings dream. This made the king so furious, that he ordered the execution of all the wise men of Babylon. You see, the dream was more of a vision, actually, it was a vision, and it was sent to him by the one true God. The king eventually received word of a man called Daniel, who was a captive-Jewish-slave held in Babylon. Daniel it seemed, had the ability to interpret dreams, so obviously, the king had a vested interest in him and demanded that this Daniel fellow be brought before him.

            Bare with me here, I do have a point.

            Shortly after the kings request, Daniel was brought before him, and promptly ask if he had the ability to interpret the vision, or solve its meaning, Daniel immediately, responded with a resounding “No” – now hows that for an answer, this gentleman – a slave – could have lost his life on the spot, because of his brutal honesty, “but” he said, “there is a God in heaven who solves dreams and he will give the king answer of its meaning”. Daniel understood where to go for real answers that solve, not only mundane daily affairs of men, but major political affairs as well.

            So, with that, the king informed Daniel of his dream. After hearing it, Daniel said that he would discuss the matter with God and return the next day.

            The following then, is the dream;

            On the morrow, Daniel returned before king and said, “…there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries. He has shown King Nebuchadnezzar what will happen in the days to come. Your dream and visions that passed through your head as you lay on your bed are these:

            As you were lying there O king, your mind turned to things to come and the revealer of mysteries showed you what is going to happen. As for me, this mystery has been revealed to me….”

            “You looked, O king, and there before you stood a large statue – an enormous , dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. The iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were broken to pieces at the same time and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.”

            Quite a dream indeed. But what does it mean, and what significance did it have for the king. Well, as stated by Daniel himself, God interprets dreams and so, Gods interpretation is as follows…

            “You, O king, are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you power and dominion, might and glory; in your hands he has placed mankind and the beasts of the field and the fowl of the air. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold.

            “After you, another kingdom will rise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron – for iron breaks and smashes everything, and as iron breaks and smashes everything to pieces, so it will crush and break all others. Just as you saw the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle, and just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, anymore than iron mixes with clay.”

            By now, you’re probably wondering to yourself, where is ZEROGON going with this, and I’ll grant you that curiosity, but please allow me to continue.

            What has been revealed so far, as the interpretation of the kings vision, entailed, a succession of world ruling governments. Of course, each government was represented by the elements of gold, silver, bronze, iron, even down to a mixture of iron and clay. You, being scientifically inclined, are well aware, that each of these elemental structures decrease in value starting from gold on down to iron. I’m certain that you’ll also agree, each element becomes stronger on down the list, starting with the gold.

            If we to use Daniels telling, then what he said was, the head of the statue represented king Nebuchadnezzar ruling over the world from within the Chaldean empire. Now if this telling is to be considered worthy of discussion, then there should be a way to match what has been described here to secular history. We know today, that the Babylonian empire was from 625-539 B.C.

            The second world ruling empire was the Persian empire, often called Medo-Persia stretching from 585-330 B.C.

            All students of ancient history, know that the third world ruling empire was Greece, or Macedonia, under the leadership of Alexander the Great who conquered Persia from 333-330 B.C.

            There arose yet a forth kingdom, eventually conquering what Alexander the Great had established, even though, Alexander died shortly after his conquest, the empire was divided into four factions and given over to his four top generals, Mecadonia and Greece – Thrace and Western Asia – Syria and the territory east of the Indus river – and Egypt.

            The fourth kingdom shouldn’t be that big a surprise, for it developed from Rome and eventually absorbed each one of the four divisions of Alexanders Empire. Known as the Roman empire from 31B.C.- 476 A.D.

            As touched on before, each army, or empire, became stronger than the previous world ruling power. But as in gold – having more value over sliver, and silver, more than bronze, and bronze, more than iron. This represented in Daniels interpretation, a deterioration in the administration abilities of each succeeding empire. The Roman history proves, they were ruthless above and beyond the former three.

            Many history buffs concede the idea that the power of Rome has vanished from the earth, but when one considers the revival of the Holy Roman empire it actually is still alive and well unto this day, but that information is for another time.

            So, now back to Daniels interpretation of the dream;

            “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain – but not by human hands – a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold to pieces. The great God has shown the king what shall take place in the future. The dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy”

            If we notice what Acts 4:10-11 is saying, it’s a biblical description of the stone – “he is the stone you builders rejected, which has become the capstone”

            My summation;

            You see Landree, it doesn’t really matter what happens here in America. Well, let me back-up for a second, it would matter, that is, if our people turned toward God in national heartfelt repentance, but you and me both know, the probability of that ever happening is zilch. So in the end, regardless of what transpires in our near future, the maturity and moral compass of American leadership has bottomed out, just as it did in the succeeding world empires described above – actually we are much worse, our American society is ripe with all its filth of drugs, pornography, inner-city violence, abortion etc and we are rotten to the core.

            As far as religion goes – there is no such thing – I consider it truth, or confusion, the world follows after the latter, God would that we prove him at his word and follow his divine word of truth – found in the pages of the holy bible. God is at the door, the time for this smashing rock to do his work is soon upon us. It doesn’t matter if people believe my words, although, they will believe their own eyes when they see these things take place.

    • Anonymous

      Socialism can be equated to a bunch of unruly children let loose in a candy store, after a while, the ransacking, or looting of the shelves, causes the business to go bankrupt…the question we must ask ourselves here is, “why were these children so unruly in the first place(?), in other words, why didn’t they possess the character, the maturity of mind, to do what other patrons have done so many times before them.

      In my opinion, their reckless behavior is solely attributed to, or is directly associated with, the principle of – cause and effect. For every action, there’s a re-action.

      The conservative right, loves to point the accusing finger of blame, toward the liberal left, for all the woe currently taking place here in the US. Now don’t misunderstand, I myself feel, what the progressive left propose in their very ambitious agenda, has proven itself to be very destructive for our future. As never before in her history, America, is currently being looted. The growing thought, that you can take from one, and redistribute that, giving it to another, will eventually take its toll and before we know it, the next stage in our troubled course, will be one of bankruptcy.

      “what caused this unruly behavior in the first place”

      “what caused our politicians to think this way in the first place”

      It is generally known and understood, that conservatives, tend to claim Christianity as their mantra, that’s not to say, that there aren’t those on the left who profess in the belief of God, but, I think it a fair assessment to say, the vast majority on the right believe in a Higher Being, and those on the left, tend to steer their thinking toward believe in evolution,

      My point is this, if the conservative faction among us, were not so spiritually-bankrupt themselves in their thinking, as they have proven to be, then those who are currently running, or-sacking America, bare of its national heritage – (leaving little or nothing left for our future generations) – our current leadership (both right and left) would have had better character within themselves to make better decisions and instead of acting like little children ransacking the place, they would possess a quality of maturity in their thinking and would have the mental capacity to do things right.

      If these morally bankrupt individuals – who claim to understand the the word of God, and the principles he set-down for men to strive for, actually did, then millions of less fortunate citizens in our nation, wouldn’t be in the financial condition they are in today.

      If our leadership had real ability, jobs would have never migrated overseas in the first place, thus, our populaces would have employment. The reason these jobs are not returning home, is a brutal burdening tax system, which makes it easier to do business elsewhere. The skyrocketing cost of tuition can be attributed to a number of things, but I think greed plays a major roll.

      As far as those who suffer from mental-illness – that too, would be far lower if they rightly understood what God placed us here for on earth. Mental depression would almost vanish overnight , our young people would be interested in something greater than themselves, and because of that new mindset, they get off their lazy uninspired butts and go to work.

      Our veterans – flat-out – should be taken care of, and would be if our population really understood who we are and what roll America ‘should be playing in the grand theme of things, but unfortunately, political correctness has created a weak America, where we no longer hold a world view, therefore, our troops are no longer thought of in the high standard they should be. These men and women – daily – place their lives on the line, to retain the liberty we have always enjoyed, they in fact, are hero’s, but there is a growing number among us, who think the fictitious character of “Captain America” is somehow a hero.

      What I’m saying here is this, the finger pointing toward the left – coming from those who claim to know God, should be redirected back toward themselves. If our people really knew and understood, the principles of God, as well as they claim they do, then our nation would not be in the dismal mess we find ourselves in today. If anything, and this is coming from me, a conservative, what has fundamentally changed this nation more than anything else – even the new liberal agenda, is the growing lack of biblical understanding, among those who claim they understand.

  • Anonymous

    This is a splendid parable. And to those who think it otherwise, truth is often spoken in simple terms and all analogies limp. The message is that which is important. We are well advised if we listen. The purpose of the government is to protect our lives, not to live them. Thank you, Glenn.

  • Anonymous

    Visit any Rescue Mission or homeless shelter and look for populations, cultures or ethnicities that are usually not there.

    You will not find Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Amish, Jews, Japanese, Chinese – or anyone else raised in a religion or culture that require good fiscal behavior from themselves or their constituencies.

    • Anonymous

      How right you are, even in the business my wife and I run (adult foster care) we never see the groups you mention, something about individual responsibility carries honor throughout ones life. If parents raise children with a sense of duty and responsibility, for themselves and others, then, in turn, their children take care of them when they are old. You’d be surprised how many elderly conservative’s we get – who have children educated in the American liberal mindset. These, usually highly trained professionals, are often to-busy to even make regular visits. Through the years we’ve had a few on hospice, and some of the questions aimed our way are anything from, “can we speed this up a little faster”, meaning the death of their parent, or “how long do you think this will take”, obviously showing no emotion toward their parent and having more concern for career.. We’ve got one lady, here now for seven years, who has never had a visit from any of her children, who live within a fifty mile radius…not a phone call, nor a letter or card. That’s how stubborn many people are and it usually has to do with liberals supposedly caring for their parents.

      • Anonymous

        American families peel off like the Blue Angles when their parents become disabled and their estate settled – specially son-in-law men and daughters-in-law women – but so do the pastors or priests of the churches they attended – no visit – not even scheduled phone calls once a year.

        Neglect of the fifth commandment is so dangerous and expensive it shortens how long in the land the Lord our God gives us in the land.

        • Anonymous

          Amen brother!

  • noelleonjones@gmail.com

    So long a righteous men at the helm.

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