Why did uber-lib Sean Penn have a massive stash of guns?

Yesterday we learned Hollywood mega producer Harvey Weinstein is working on a “big movie” starring Meryl Streep that will make the NRA “wish they weren’t alive.” And now it looks like another uber-leftist from tinsel town is getting in on the gun debate. During his third annual ‘Help Haiti Home’ benefit last weekend, actor Sean Penn auctioned off a sculpture made by artist Jeff Koons from Penn’s 65 discarded firearms.

Yes, that’s right – the communist loving, dictator sympathizing actor was once the proud owner of 65 firearms.

So why did he decide to melt them all down into an art piece that Anderson Cooper ended up paying a whopping $1.4 million for? Well, his new girlfriend, fellow actress Charlize Theron, apparently suggested he get rid of them.

“Yeah, these guys are the biggest hypocrites in the world. And that’s fine. I mean, look at Sean Penn. Because he wants to climb into the sack with Charlize Theron, he gives up guns,” Glenn said on radio this morning. “Hang on just a second. Now, first of all… why does Sean Penn have [65] guns? Did you get one for every birthday? Now, that is an important question, sure, but the question I really have is: How is this guy getting all the hot babes in Hollywood?”

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As caller Andy in Massachusetts pointed out, Theron has a tumultuous history with guns and violence. When she was 17, her mother shot and killed her alcoholic father after he reportedly fired his own gun and threatened to kill the family. Penn explained at his benefit that it was a “strong woman who happens to be from South Africa” who convinced him it give up his guns.

While Pat and Stu couldn’t understand why someone whose life was potentially saved by a firearm would be so against them, Glenn surmised that Theron probably blames her father’s death and the violence in her home on guns. With that logic, however, she should be blaming alcohol as well.

“She’s an abused girl whose family had guns. She was saying: If my father wouldn’t have had the shotgun, he would still be alive today… Because guns were allowed to be out on the streets, dad went out and bought these guns and mom had one too… We had so much violence in our house because of guns,” Glenn explained. “[But] go after alcohol. Why isn’t she going after alcohol? Dad’s an alcoholic. Dad would have been responsible with a gun perhaps if he wouldn’t have had alcohol. Maybe he wouldn’t have been so abusive. Why not just ban alcohol?”

During the Haiti benefit, Penn also described guns as “cowardly killing machines”:

Being provoked by this aforementioned strong woman and considering how liberating of bulls**t and ugliness it would be not only get rid of the guns I have in the continental United States but also to destroy them, Jeff Koons and I had a chat the other day. The highest bidder gets every single one of my guns put in the hands of this iconic artist and sculptor… Koons will decommission [and] render inactive all of my cowardly killing machines.

“Sean Penn said, too, that he had gotten rid of his 65 ‘cowardly killing machines,’ which begs the question: How many people has Sean Penn killed,” Stu joked. “Because if they’re killing machines, we assume he’s been killing people this entire time. I mean how can we assume anything different? He himself is calling them killing machines.”

Front page image courtesy of the AP

  • Anonymous

    Why does anybody care about this? Sean Penn can do what he wants with his guns. He’s free to have his opinions. Who cares what celebrities do? It has nothing to do with me. Him and Theron can be their Leftist selves all they want. Do you know what pisses a liberal off more than guns, more than anything?…when nobody is paying any attention to them.

  • ..

    Sean who?

  • Anonymous

    quintessential liberal axiom ;; do as i say not as I do;;;;;;;you lowly peon ;; after all I am the communist in the room.

  • USNbubblehead

    Great Sean, now how do we “render inactive” your cowardly blathering machine.

  • Donald L Canter

    Who thinks of Penn as a celebrity. I think of him as a radical leftist idiot who doesn’t have enough sense to own a BB gun.

  • Anonymous

    Sixty five gun ‘s collection gone to please the latest heart throb and after it ends ? Enough wealth to begin collecting again; but what do I care about their antics and it’s just my opinion.

  • Henry Baker

    Where’s Joe McCarthy when we really need him?

  • IBUYRMP

    is this a case of the little head, overriding the common sense of the thinking big head? Of course Sean Pen cil brain never had any common sense!

  • Guest

    Why do folks care about Sean Penn’s gun hypocrisy, but turn ideologically blinded eyes toward Glenn Beck’s many hypocrisies?

    Free speech? Hypocrite.
    Spinning facts? Hypocrite.
    Talking about a pol’s children? Hypocrite.
    Sanctity of US flag? Hypocrite.
    Upholding the Constitution? Hypocrite.

    I “only” have about 2 dozen examples.

    Why do you ignore Beck’s many hypocrisies?

  • Anonymous

    What’s a Sean Penn????? And who cares anyway!!!

  • Anonymous

    You seriously need some better proofreaders. This article is a mangled mess of typos and awkward grammar.

  • Anonymous

    Touche!!

  • bumpkin

    C’MON, guys! Clean up the grammar! Its EMBARRASSING, Glenn! OMGsh! You need a proofreader? REALLY? The annoying lack of care with which the piece was written totally detracts from the story. GRIPE my backside! We are English-speaking Americans here. Use a little CARE! -Oh, and you can hire me to proof your copy, if you really haven’t anyone who can do it. I am sure its a hired hand who is responsible for copy online, but FIX it!

  • bumpkin

    Why, that’s true! I cant SEE you, Penn! Penn, who?

  • Anonymous

    Good thing he wasn’t in NY. The SWAT Team would have descended on him for sure.

  • Hefty

    Why is he a hypocrite relative to your five items? You do not bother to explain. Typical groundless liberal shite.

  • Anonymous

    Why does this moron keep making the news. IGNORE him already. He is just another hound for attention.

  • Anonymous

    Meg Well, just look who has shown up again. What hole did you crawl out of
    this time? Do you ever look in the mirror Guest? If you do, you would surely see what a hypocrite looks like. Try it.

  • Hefty

    He is a guy who used to make good movies. Now he thinks he is an intellectual, because he is good at memorizing lines. He is a true legend in his own mind.

  • Guest

    His name is Victor Tiffany.

  • Paula

    I’ve asked myself that question more than once! Who knew that Old Joe was ahead of his time…. the celebrities ARE a bunch of commies!

  • Paula

    True! All these Has-Been actors are coming out of the woodwork .. they miss that limelight.

  • Guest

    “Yeah, these guys are the biggest hypocrites in the world,” Glenn said on radio this morning.

    Sean Penn doesn’t hold a candle to Glenn Beck when it comes to hypocrisy. Doubt that?

    Google Glenn Beck, hypocrisy.

  • Anonymous

    Bert, the reason that we talk about it is to point out the hypocrisy. There are less sophisticated people than you and me who look to the celebs and try to emulate them. It is our job to point out to the emulators that these celebs are just flawed humans like you and me. But they wield a scary power…because they are like prostitutes….they will do and say anything for money…and fame….whatever it takes to stay in business…and if that includes lying and being a hypocrite, we are going to point that out and discuss it. Because it can, and does influence children, teens and the less sophisticated adults among us.

  • HCUA

    He was smeared in a movie starring Peter Boyle. Another barn burner.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    Oh look more idiotic commentary from a liberal troll.

  • Anonymous

    One major, major thing with the left … you never, ever believe what they SAY, always what they DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Bert, my response is above your post…

  • James Kelly King

    Actually though the premise is a reasonable calling out of Sean – as in, ‘why did you buy all those killing machines if you didn’t think it was ok?’ I have to on this rare occasion think you are doing the same things that the liberal media do when they disagree with one of US… that is, attack the person, not the problem. Your belittling of Sean Penn was purely speculative and severely underhanded. It made for a kind of sick humor, but really in the end diminished YOUR character rather than his for demonstrating that this was OK BEHAVIOR FOR YOU but not for liberals.

    Sorry, but you lost a little of my respect on this one.

    The pic is just something I thought might brighten your day…and help you pull up out of the MUCK! LOL! 8^6

  • Anonymous

    Who cares what he thinks. He peaked with Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Nothing he does is worth watching.

  • Mango

    You listed 5 categories and added the word hypocrite after each one rather than 2 dozen real examples. It’s going to take a little more effort than that for anyone here to entertain your post.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    Oh Sean Penn the hater of freedom and lover of fascist when will you ever stop being a hypocrite? He had more guns than Ted Nugent for crying out loud but yet he does not want us small people to own a gun I wonder why? It seems to me he was learning from his fasscist friends and how they took guns from the common man.

  • Louie

    Spanish only pleAse

  • James Kelly King

    well it appears the pick didn’t make the cut??? Or, DID make the cut. Hmmm, here’s to trying again… if it doesn’t appear, it wasn’t because I wasn’t trying from here…

  • flatj

    He would have turned his collection over to his little commie pal Hugo Chavez but he now resides in hell, so this must be the next-best thing.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    It happens sometimes.

  • Anonymous

    The reason someone like Charlize would go for this Communist scum sympathizer is because these uber-rich Hollywood types love bad boys and they have this love affair with Communism, they don’t see it as a system that has killed millions, they have this ridiculous idea it is something bright and shiny and without flaws. . .

    As to Penn having all those guns, what elese would you expect from a hypocrite who has as always been a part of the crowd that says do as I say and not what I do. . .

  • Paula

    Oddest thing… I try to click on the Disquis response from you and it said 404 Error! Twice.

    You heard that director, Harvey Weinstein is making a movie totally against the NRA with Meryl Streep. I’m running out of actors to watch!

    Wonder why some Progressive-commie-liberal aren’t making a movie denouncing NSA? Or EPA? CIA? IRS? FBI? Benghazi? Odd anit it?

    Wonder what McCathy and J. Edgar would say about the people ruling over us today?

  • Anonymous

    I truly doubt that this fellow Penn has a position that hasnt stemmed from one script or another that he has read — not written himself. First the little guy is an actor and as far as his 65 firearms are concerned it is a shame that he is going to allow another fraud Jeff Koons to “turn his guns into a sculpture” Jeff Koons is another moron who does not touch his own work – HE has assistants do all the work for him and pretends to be top CEO in charge of production. So frauds basically are attracted to other frauds and Hollywood and the LA Art Scene is rife with fraud, pathetic empty people and a huge lack of creativity. This just more of H-Woods two actors being “seen” with one another for publicity’s sake —The guy is stupid to pass up the opportunity to sell them through the used firearms market – what a dolt!!

  • Anonymous

    Communists are revolutionists, that means they would have guns. When a Communist supports gun control, he means everyone but Communists. IE: Stalin, Mao and other Communist leaders support gun control, but not for the leadership or other fellow Communists.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously hypocrisy isn’t exclusive to Harvey Weinstein. I can almost bet 100% of them owns a gun or two and definitely so do their security guards.

  • JESUSfreeq Dad

    Sean Pinhead is the “cowardly killing machine”, based on the FACT that
    guns not only DO NOT, but CANNOT kill people. ONLY BAD PEOPLE WITH GUNS
    are able to kill people, and it’s been proved time and time again that a
    bad person who wants to kill people doesn’t necessarily NEED a gun! He
    can use an alcoholic stupor, a baseball bat, a kitchen knife, a hammer, a
    power saw, a pipe wrench, a poisoned cup of tea, and any number of
    common, household items. Are we going to ban ALL THOSE things? Hell no!
    But my biggest disappointment is in Charlize Theron. Up until now I had a
    lot of respect for her, but if she;d sell a romp in the hay with the
    likes of Sean Pinhead for him auctioning off his guns, then I’ve lost
    all the respect I USED TO have for her! :P

  • nobody

    Thank you

  • KyKPH

    We are probably all better off with out those yahoos having an guns anyway.

  • JESUSfreeq Dad

    Excellent point, Bert30. You’re Egg Zackly correct! ;^)

  • Mango

    Instead of telling everyone to Google “Glenn Beck, hypocrisy” maybe you should actually put in a little effort and articulate your thoughts and ideas. We listen to Glenn all the time, that’s why we follow The Blaze, we are actually capable of deciding when someone is being hypocritical and when they’re not. If Glenn was the hypocrite you and your fellow extremists say he is, he wouldn’t have an audience…The reason you didn’t include any information is because you don’t have any. Good night and good luck.

  • Jeff

    When it comes to celebrities, I only care about them entertaining me. I don’t look to them for political advice and definitely not anything on moral issues.

  • Anonymous

    Do you have an editor? WTF does this mean? “As caller Andy in Massachusetts pointed out, Theron has a tumultuous
    history with guns and violence. When she was 17-year-old her shot and
    killed her alcoholic father after he reportedly fired his own gun and
    threatened to kill her.” Penn explained at his benefit that it was a “strong woman who happens to be from South Africa” who convinced him it give up his guns.” 17 year old her shot and killed? She shot and killed her father? Hell it’s no wonder Sean’s dumping guns, he’s scared. He picks on weaker people, they’re not weaker if she’s holding a .45

  • Anonymous

    Remember, Progressives/Marxists/Fascists don’t want YOU to have a gun. BUt it’s alright for them. Hypocrisy once again.

  • Anonymous

    Glen, do you need a proofreader? I’m available … just sayin

  • Anonymous

    Are you seriously initimating that maybe Sean put the PE N in peon? And come to think of it, that’s also 60% of the male organ.

  • John Harnen

    So how many guns does he still have in Hawaii and the rest of the world? Wait til she finds out he’s holding out on her.

  • Frank Strait

    Why would anyone expect anything but insanity from insane Hollywood types?

    As as side note, I hate to be the grammar police, but some of the errors in the piece make it difficult to read. It would be nice if this could be edited again and reposted.

  • JESUSfreeq Dad

    When he was a teenager he played characters who were idiots. I didn’t know back then that they cast him in those characters because he actually WAS an idiot! I’ve learned different since then. ;^)

  • Anonymous

    It’s always do as I say, not as I do with these ultra-progressives… I never give them a second guess. They are just as human as the rest of us, and the last time I check, they put on their pants the same way us common folk do. My comment to them is “I will stay out of your business, so stay out of mine!”

  • John Scott

    So these Hollywood people like Penn with their causes are nothing more then doing or saying what they believe their circle feels good about. Its just like a politician they tell you what their supporters want to hear. Why do we give these Hollywood types any credit for anything? They practically live in a fantasy world and have no worries. Can they even understand the issues they claim to be vocal about?

  • Doug Rowan

    I couldn’t even read this it was so full of errors. My 2nd grader could have proofed this better.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously you have never listened to Glenn Beck.

  • Name

    they must of typed that article on a handheld device…big fingers little keyboard

  • Craig Johnson

    That’s the only film I enjoy of his. Because it was his first that I saw, it’s also how I think of him as a person.

    The world needs more Mr. Hands and fewer Jeff Spicollis

  • Doug Rowan

    Course what I did take from this is… Oh, look who is trying to be relevant again by getting in the news… ugh.

  • joe

    Look at his brother martin shaen this s*** runs in the family

  • CommonCents

    Hollyweird should walk their talk and never make a gun violence movie again. The hypocrisy is sickening.

    What was Penns public stance on guns before hand? It’d be hilarious if he made anti gun statements prior to his disclosure of owning so many guns.

  • hyson12887 .

    I’m not sure it’s even legal to just “melt down” 65 guns without proper BATFE paperwork. Did anyone even check that out?
    Oh, and terrible grammar and spelling here. C’mon, boys!

  • Anonymous

    J. Edgar? After he fluffed his skirt and fixed his hair, he would have cussed a blue streak, of course.

  • Carolyn Wheeler

    I like what they said…”Why does anybody care about this or them?

  • Kevin V Gantnier Sr.

    A man who gets rid of his guns over a woman deserves neither……..

  • Anonymous

    Amen! How about using all that celeb effort on your “self”. You can’t live your life is you are living through theirs.

  • rymjim

    WHO CARES? just another fake.

  • grassroot

    You mean Penn Jillette? Ha

  • Paula

    Excuse me,LC, but after a lady fluffs her skirt and fixes her hair she doesn’t cuss a blue streak! LOL Sorry I just couldn’t pass that up!

  • Anonymous

    It’s unfortunate that Ms. Theron turned out to be such a Leftist as I always used her as counter example when anyone used the euphemism, African-American, for Black or Negro as she’s a true African-American having been born in South Africa and becoming an American citizen. It usually results in a blank look and then, “Oh, but she’s South African.” My usual response is, “As opposed to Kenyan-American?” Regardless, I maintain that anyone who puts something followed by a hyphen before “American” should go back to the place preceding the hyphen if they’re more proud of it than they are of being American. E pluribus unum.

  • Anonymous

    is it just me, or are there tons of typos in this story….

  • Rich

    How does anyone expect to be taken seriously these days when they can’t handle the most fundamental writing skills?

  • Chelsey Harding

    Did you guys forget to proofread the article? I see at least 3 obvious errors.

  • Anonymous

    Penn also described funs as “cowardly killing machines”

    When she was 17-year-old her shot and killed…..

    ….who convinced him it give up his guns.

  • BAB

    must “of” typed? even on a handheld device it should be must “have” typed

  • Anonymous

    Professional writers baby…they be smartz!!

  • Debby Vopalensky

    Because they are always getting on their soapbox and telling everyone else how they should live, what they can and can not have. It’s time someone called bullstuff on these people and pull the curtain over La La land down. I don’t think these stars would have a problem with one of these “Cowardly Killing Machines” being around if it meant saving their life or the life of someone they cared about.

  • basone6

    ? I thought he had felony on his record.so how did he get the guns?

  • timrfrench61

    Yeah: and he took that bullet in Taps (a big anti military violence love fest from my college days: Sean Penn; Timothy Hutton; George C. Scott. Tom Cruz as the D&D nerd. I wept when Sean died lol). I think empirically this is very hypocritical (no hiding behind stupidity)

  • Asillem4

    Who?

  • Name

    oh you got me… however it is a colloquial term

    col·lo·qui·al kəˈlōkwēəl/

    adjective

    adjective: colloquial

    1. (of language) used in ordinary or familiar conversation; not formal or literary.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, Hiliary Bert30 Clinton, we care and should point out what the celebs like Sean Penn are doing. These actors and singers use their power to convince the vulnerable, star stuck crazies and fence sitters to buy into their agenda and beliefs. You should care and be prepaid to inform. Sixty-five guns! Really?

  • DungeonMaster68

    Why does this article have so many typographical errors?

  • Anonymous

    They are narcissist. But how do you ignore them while they are using their celebrity to aid their cause with politicians? Follow the money, it tells the story…

  • Anonymous

    Funs

  • Guest

    Hey, my wife needs a job, can she get one editing your stories?

  • http://www.full-stop.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/SHU-2-982x1024.jpg T.A. Conscience

    It’s Bush’s fault.

  • DungeonMaster68

    I would be curious to know when Penn purchased the most recent addition to his 65 gun collection. Since “Sandy Hook”?….Probably.

  • Anonymous

    These Shakespearean words are taken out of context, however, they appear to adequately describe the cast of many Hollywood characters. They are poor “players who strut and fret their hour upon the stage and then are seen no more.” They are residents of a make believe world who are “full of sound and fury” and who “signify nothing.”

  • joe

    Because he still has a lot more… You really think he gave up his good Guns? lol… would you? Think about it…

  • Jeff Shouse

    Wasn’t Penn convicted of domestic violence against Madonna some time back? I thought people convicted of domestic violence could not legally own firearms. Shouldn’t he have been required to surrender them? Or is that just true for us “little people”?

  • Miketrt

    Who wrote the copy on this story, a drunken homeless guy?

  • http://www.full-stop.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/SHU-2-982x1024.jpg T.A. Conscience

    Miscellaneous Numbers for $1000, Alex.

    … 68

    What is the combined IQ of Penn AND Theron?

    …That is correct!

  • Anonymous

    I can’t tell if Theron actually shot and killed her own father from this sentence, “As caller Andy in Massachusetts pointed out, Theron has a tumultuous history with guns and violence. When she was 17-year-old her shot and killed her alcoholic father after he reportedly fired his own gun and threatened to kill her.” I guess “her” should read “she”?

  • Anonymous

    A lot of the Hollywood Crowd should go back into the Closet and stay there.
    to many reasons to count..

  • russell zinter

    lmao

  • Dan Hyatt

    Having just moved back from the Left (west) side of LA, I was reminded how elitest and devoid of reality these people are.
    They are scamming each other. Men women, women men (and the gays the gays). They wouldnt know a fact if it slapped them in the face.

    They think a Conservative is evil and brainless regardless of the values. As usual, with zero facts to back up their superior intellectual knowledge

  • Dan Hyatt

    The issue is that they are a bunch of elitest self centered, believing they are omnipotent, and make absolute universal statements of truth based upon a drug alcohol and power induced haze of reality.

  • Amy Kotner

    You’re fired before you’re hired. It’s Glenn with two Ns.

  • Anonymous

    He also mentioned “in the Continental US”….so, that means in his homes in the Caribbean or Hawaii or England…he still has guns there?

  • hyson12887 .

    Not just you…

  • hyson12887 .

    I’ll take Famous Titties for $400!

    …That’s Famous Titles!

  • Cpl DMan

    Wasn’t it Sean Peen who was seen in a boat, going through a flooded New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina, openly carrying a shotgun? So he was there for humanitarian aid, toting a shotgun. I’m getting mixed messages Sean…

  • Apostle Gideon Prinsloo

    So Alcohol never plays a role according to some anti-Afrikaner Liberalist who just happens to speak Afrikaans. If Charlize Theron wants to be gun free then she must return back to South Africa where there is gun control. But she must stay away from us Afrikaners and especially the Boers since she is too ashamed of us. She is also a traitor and will not do anything for her own people who are perishing in the genocide in South Africa against us whites, even when some of us comes legally to the US she is doing nothing to help us but will rather help the Communists ANC in South Africa and worshiping her favorite god, Nelson Mandela. She and Sean Penn are the same. Let them go and live either in Cuba or Zimbabwe without guns and see how they will do.

  • Anonymous

    I read this article but I ignore the people in Hollywood. Most of them seem to be vacant.

  • Fat Lip

    Born and raised out there and may I emphasize OUT THERE moved out in the largest exodus : ) of native Ca. citizens in it’s history 1992
    Some rich man came down out of the canyons raped the land nobody caught him they call it paradise I don’t no why !
    Stay right there Sean don’t need ya some things never change

  • Studies and Observations

    The More Pressing issue, is that Mr Penn has a Domestic Violence Assault Conviction. That In and of Itself makes him a “Prohibited Person” under Federal Law, AND I believe California has similar statutes. HOW did he Legally purchase those firearms, when he could not pass a Background check with that DV Conviction. The mere possession of those firearms, for anyone else under the same circumstances would carry a Felony Charge for EACH FIREARM. Yet Mr Penn seems to get a pass on that. Then of course, there is the lesser Issue of Ms Theron herself…WHY would someone who was a victim of Domestic Violence as a child, be involved with someone ho has a History of the SAME Pattern of Behavior as her Deceased Father???

  • Apostle Gideon Prinsloo

    Charlize is too ashamed to be associated with her own people and too ashamed to be an Afrikaner and Boer. She revealed that last year December during the funeral of Nelson Mandela, the great terrorist. As an Afrikaner and Boer I have no respect for this whore

  • BAB

    Yes, I know what it is, but a lot of people were mentioning the grammar and spelling in Glenn’s article, so I chimed in. English used to be my second language and I tried very hard to speak and write it correctly. I now think I succeeded ;-))

  • Shemp

    Wait till Harvey Weinstein finds out…Penn…blacklisted?

  • greg jones

    I can’t stand people who got nothing better to do than sit and correct peoples grammar instead of taking part in the conversation. Damn grammar whores.

  • Anonymous

    “the guns I have in the continental United States” Does this mean he still has guns in Hawaii or Alaska?

  • greg jones

    Cocaine will make you go to any lengths to protect your schizophrenic ass. I’m surprised he only had 65.

  • Anonymous

    You can bet his bodyguards still have theirs!

  • Jim Evans

    Theron should check out what Penn did to Robin Wright and Madonna before she cozies up too much. Forget his guns, it’s his coke bottles, and temper she should worrry about.

  • Pam Dunn

    Sean Penn is the BIGGEST Hollywood moron alive today; I ABSOLUTELY refuse to SEE any picture he is in at the theater, BUT ALSO refuse to have this low life turd on my television set. Hasn’t this idiot ALSO been arrested and FINED for ASSAULT outside of bars?
    Typical left winger hypocrite with no brains, no morals, and no common sense.

  • Pam Dunn

    Left winger socialistic communistic morons HAVE no brains, morals or commonsense; Otherwise they WOULD NOT be leftists and such idiots.

  • Pam Dunn

    I vote for Venezuela for the pair of them.

  • Pam Dunn

    THAT HIGH ?????????????? Surely they cheated on the test !!

  • Pam Dunn

    NO, Someone about 1000 points higher in IQ than YOU.

  • Mark Ayers

    Has anybody looked into the past arrest history and the time he has served in jail for Violence? Am I correct to say he has been arrested in the past for Domestic violence? Now if that is true how does that affect the laws of the State of california and has he been in Violation of said laws..Just a thought.

  • Anonymous

    Oh God, this whole bunch makes me want to puke my breakfast and I had that 10 hours ago.

  • jennifer hendricks

    Sean Penn and all the other Hollywood elite, with the exception of a few, are classic hypocrites, just like the democrats. They will portray violence and guns in their films to get rich, but condemn our 2nd amendment to you and me. I was able to observe Sean Penn a couple of years ago while at the Dulles International Airport in DC. He displayed anti-social, rude, angry, bizarre behavior. He is one of the most unattractive actors ever, especially in person. He looked like a unclean homeless man. He sat on the pavement Indian style outside in the heat with a jacket on. He acted in a way that warranted he wanted to be noticed. But he would get angry if anyone approached him. So everyone ignored him. If he didn’t want to be noticed why then did he act so weird and stand out? I also was staying in a Las Vegas hotel and while using their gym, my husband and I were alone with a celebrity. Because we didn’t acknowledge this celebrity he started making loud grunting sounds so we would notice him. It made me really uncomfortable. These guys are not normal people. They have real ego issues. They think we should worship the ground they walk on. Sickening.

  • Pam Dunn

    To see if you morons are awake and REALLY reading the story; Of course we understand that you DON’T understand the story, hence the concentration on the grammar and construction of the story.

  • Pam Dunn

    OOOOHHH, You win the 5 cent boobie prize ; way to go Ace.

  • Pam Dunn

    Go play with yourself and your toys in the sandbox if you have nothing better to do.

  • Pam Dunn

    They ALL probably had bigger barrels as compensation for his own tiny little wagger.

  • Pam Dunn

    Perhaps you should try and raise your reading level UP to the fourth grade level.

  • Malachi

    You meant to say “…people who HAVE nothing better…”
    You also misspelled “people’s grammar.”

  • Gregg

    Did nobody catch that he said he was only getting rid of the gun he had in the “Continental United States”? How many guns foes he have in other countries?

  • Anonymous

    Sean Penn is just a foul-mouthed hypocrat, please check the movies before you go to see them and see if the stars are people like him. I’d wager he still has some guns, but why on earth would someone broadcast that fact? Meaning, there’s two types of burglars: Those who avoid the homes with guns and those who want an easy place to load up on guns. Better to not let that bad guy know before hand and assume the worst and if the bad guy shows up, let him have it w/ a shotgun as Joe Biden recommends.

  • LHS

    Privileged, Hollyweird elite. And…isn’t it liiegal for Penn to have those guns?
    Assault, jail time. Felon? Selective law enforcement again for the left? Great.
    The country has gone batschmidt crazy.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder how many of Harvey Weinstein’s movies Penn has been in?

  • Miketrt

    You got me…. :)

  • Bill Morin

    Penn the freak who was pals with hugo chavez..the same dictator who blamed the disaster of Haiti on America, and said America probrobly used an earthquake machine to cause all the death and destruction at Haiti..and who was furious America was helping Haiti afterwards..yeah..the sean penn who was pals with Hugo Chavez..The same Sean Penn who made all his money in Hollywood glorifying guns as far back as “Bad Boys” movie he mad in the early 80′s, the war movie ” Thin Red Line”..and others where he blasted people with Guns..f’n hypocrite .

  • Doug Rowan

    LOL your first comment had more errors than this article, guess you got smart and deleted your spelling errors, which is why when I clicked on the link to respond your comment was gun. NO wonder you didn’t think the article has errors, you can’t spell any better, lol. I swear, WHY would you try to defend poor grammar and spelling in an article, oh, wait, unless you are the proofreader, lol. Sorry but that’s funny, I don’t care who you are :)

  • Doug Rowan

    Pam Dunn

    Perahps you should try and raise your reading level UP to the fourth grade level.

    6:02 p.m., Friday Jan. 17

  • Brian Davies

    And yet, she makes movies like “Aeonflux”.

  • Bill Fold

    Good point, Stu. How many people did sean kill?

  • Tom Slick

    How can this turd own guns with a domestic violence charge on it’s record?

  • Robert Worthington

    Sean Penn is such a putz his ex wife Robin told him to hit the bricks.’….

  • Steve Swafford

    Fuck s.penn…old man with a chip on his shoulder…needs his ass kicked

  • Anonymous

    He pays to bang it.

  • Anonymous

    He is a hypocrit. Yet he is the first to go after others.

  • Anonymous

    If Penn had a BB gun. He most likely would put an eye out.

  • Anonymous

    Who cares about grammar when you are writing on a pad? Get over yourself, it has already been proven that conservatives are smarter and know more about the important things in this country. If you really cared about grammar so much, you should go over Obama’s speeches, without a prompter. Why don’t you send toObama a list of corrections, and then see how long it takes you to get audited by the IRS.

  • Anonymous

    Typical attitude of the “elected” and the “elite”, Do what we say not what we do. The rules certainly don’t apply to them, silly!

  • Anonymous

    Hey, here’s a better idea! Speaking of cowardly killing machines, let’s consider the millions of drunken stupors that have taken place amongst the booze-swilling entertainment class in “Holywood” (that’s where the saints live) and get them to give up THEIR CARS!! Killing machines on four wheels after a night of Socialist cheerleading at a Penn and Theron fundraising could do tremendous damage..

    Would anyone here give me a first bid on this fine sculpture made from Sean Penn’s Porsche SUV? It’s a hybrid.. No more cars or fast boats for Holywood..

  • Anonymous

    Bert, I would agree normally, but with the influence of celebrities on social media and legislators, that premise of live and let live doesn’t work anymore. Look at the influence on Obama, the schmoozing they do in the White House at social functions. Too many political idiots end up kowtowing to socialist pressure from celebs. Celebs have their own PACs today, or “Political Access Cash”.

  • Jarrod A Smith

    DOES HE HAVE A MOVIE COMING OUT?

  • Lynelle Hullsiek

    I want to know how someone as unstable and with a violent past acquired so many guns in the first place? So much for their background checks.

  • Rivericks

    Read this quote, ” not only get rid of the guns I have in the continental United States but also to destroy them, ” … So, how many guns does he own outside the continental US? Does he have stashes in Alaska, Hawaii, and other parts of the globe?

  • corey
  • dp

    So you care more about how something is said than what is said? You think a good idea must come with perfect grammar otherwise it is devalued? I think it is your ignorance that is showing here.

  • Rick Belcher

    Does he still own guns outside the continental US?

  • Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    You know wht just don’t go nd see any of there dam movies and that they deserve.

  • Anonymous

    Okay – Please – Glenn the IRL Shirt taking off thing – way too much! Hahahaha

  • Anonymous

    looks like Sean has given up his firearms for the “da whip”

  • Anonymous

    if only it affected their lives and their lives only – but they want me to surrender my gun too and that’s when It became my business

  • Ann

    Did Penn have all his bodyguards get rid of their weapons also ?

  • Orthospinedoc

    Wasmt Sean Penn putting around in a boat during Katrina with a shotgun or some other gun in his boat…while saving the fools who stayed back after being warned for four days! It’s ok for him to have a gun when it’s fit for him!

  • Greg

    The NSA is tracing him:)

  • KJC

    Don’t worry he kept the AK’s!

  • Anonymous

    Yes, yes you are right Dan, completely. But Hollywood personalities are not people of consequential influence like Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et. al. I guess that’s my point.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone who is influenced primarily by celebs needs to get a life, period. The problem is that people are, as you are correct in saying, are TOO influenced by them. Be aware of evil, but don’t grant it an audience.

  • SJ

    Penn is one of the biggest assholes in Hollyweird,

  • Anonymous

    Please explain to me how Hillary Clinton and I are alike in any way. I’m a young dude who isn’t half as unattractive as her and I haven’t turned my back on 4 Americans who were in distress.

  • Lori Toupal

    Rest assured, he didn’t give them all up. When he’s down in Haiti he has armed guards around him all the time and I’m sure he carries one on him, as well. All Americans do these days. Otherwise, they’re prime targets for robbery or kidnapping. Trust me on this, he still has guns – just not in Hollywood. (Been there, done that.)

  • Larry Rappaport

    100 grand says Penn still has handguns. Lot’s of em and most probably collector pieces from specific productions i.e. Dirty Harry.

  • M. Fazio

    Penn comes from a line of Communist. His Dad was one of the * movie Writers that was BLACKBALLED from Hollywood in the 50′s. Penn has had it out for this Country for quite some time. That’s why he LOVES HUGO Chavez so much. Penn wasn’t too BRIGHT.

  • Anonymous

    I think you’ve missed the point entirely, and in fact have proven it.

  • http://www.full-stop.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/SHU-2-982x1024.jpg T.A. Conscience

    Would not be surprised.

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad that you have excellent grammar. Now display your reading comprehension and focus on the content of the piece, instead of deriding someone else’s shortcomings, which in no way enhances you as a person.

  • Anonymous

    There will always be the voice of stupidity out there. The so-called “unsophisticated” crowd will respond to stupidity whether we like it or not. If someone has made their mind up that creating a sculpture out of guns accomplishes…anything…they will eat a story up like this.

  • Anonymous

    I really can’t disagree with you here. My post didn’t either. Sean Penn and Charlize Theron are not members of the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives, so what can they possibly do to you?

  • Frank Swart

    If you don’t care, why bother to comment about it?

  • Anonymous

    Because they are idolized and people will believe whatever they say – it is sad but true – they actually have that much influence over the people in this nation. I’m 50 and they had already started distorting the truth of America back when I was in school and it’s only gotten worse – people in the 30′s or younger don’t know anything about the truth of this nation unless they had parents that cared enough to override the school system – just look around when you’re out there and see if people in general, are not paying more attention to Hollywood than they are Washington. They can tell you who’s dating who and who’s getting divorced and who they slept with that caused the divorce but they cannot tell you who their congressmen are or their senators, or the vice president for that matter

  • Michael Benedict

    He had 65 guns that we know of. Would you put it past him to still own others and not talk about them, maybe even hide them? The same people that are “against” guns own them and are guarded by them. They just don’t want others to have them, the rules aren’t for them.

  • Mike Mike

    Get the facts; just the facts.
    http://youtu.be/Ts70b3MUJAo

  • Mike Mike

    If guns kill people then why aren’t the prisons full of guns instead of killers?

  • Darrell

    Sean Penn??never heard of her!

  • Anonymous

    Sean Penn is one of the premier character actors of our time in the opinion of well-respected movie critics, period. And, I agree.

    That being said, I never look to Sean Penn (Hollywood) for political opinion, anymore than I look to Harry Reid (Washington) for movie reviews. I am on the farthest most opposite side of the ideological political divide from both men.

    Truth be told, I have tremendous respect for Sean Penn for his generous charity, time and hands-on project helping the Haitian needy when natural disaster struck. I have always held the belief that actions often speak louder than words. As a result, I have ultimate disdain for the career-politico Senate Leader Reid, penniless when he entered Congress decades ago, yet today mysteriously a multimillionaire & huge landowner from personally exploiting opportunities he found and/or sponsored in laws benefitting his State of Nevada that opened doors leading to his personal fortune.

  • Mike Mike

    *uck liberal logic.

  • Garth Haycock

    It’s no surprise that Penn is a hypocrite. The only thing I’ve learned from this is that I need to add Charlize Theron to my long list of Hollywood progressives whose movies I will never watch.

  • Anonymous

    Evil sometimes comes in beautiful packages

  • Mike Emert

    Isn’t this the same man who makes for an overwhelmingly awesome retard in a series of movies?

  • Mike Emert

    Isn’t this the same man who makes for an overwhelmingly great retard in a series of movies?

  • Guest

    hey…when he’s not playing a retard…he’s certainly acting like one.

  • Anonymous

    Sean Penn is the greatest hypocrite in the world.

  • Guest

    Hey, when he’s not “Acting” like a retard…he’s surely acting like one.

  • Mike Emert

    Hey, This is a man who excelled at portraying a retard in several of his movies…and some of his best actually. So, why not milk them a little more right? But in real life..

  • Carolyn VanZorge

    so…..charlize, with her history of an abusive, aggressive father, gets herself involved with an abusive guy who has anger management problems……sounds legit.

  • Scott Sullivan

    Something of interest here…Check out the Form 4473 – the Federal Form you must fill out to purchase a firearm……Penn has been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence…consequently by Federal Law HE CANNOT LEGALLY OWN FIREARMS! Nor may he possess a single round of ammunition…..WHY IS HE NOT IN JAIL??? Anyone?

  • Anonymous

    Attractive? Maye to a beagle . . .

  • Anonymous

    But the last election was swung, not on the brilliance of policy, or the integrity of the candidate, nor by his record, but by fraud, and starpower. Which was the greater I have no way of knowing.

  • Anonymous

    You have to be convicted of a felony before you have your gun rights revoked, not a misdemeanor.

  • Anonymous

    Just because Charlize convinced Penn to get rid of his guns doesn’t necessarily mean she got rid of hers. She probably has good reason to be concerned that Penn could become like her alcoholic father.

  • Jim

    I always wanted Charlize Theron to play Sue Storm in a Fantastic Four movie…when she was younger. She had the look and she definitely has the acting chops. I don’t really care about her political opinions. She’s an actress!

  • Scott Sullivan

    Incorrect. Form 4473 Question i :”Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence?” A Yes in that column says you can’t own guns any more…..

  • Anonymous

    A beagle wouldn’t look twice at Hilary

  • Anonymous

    I heard he got 96% of the black vote. I don’t even facebook because people my age are stuck on themselves and they use it mostly to talk about themselves. What Sean Penn does with his guns is…so none of my concern.

  • landofaahs

    Perhaps he is so distraught over voting for Obama that he is so depressed and has suicidal thoughts and got rid of the guns for his own good.

  • landofaahs

    Sean Penn is living proof that it only takes large sums of cash to cause some good looking women to become blind.

  • Robert DeSantis

    I have NEVER had pus sy so good it made me want to melt my guns . Maybe go get another gun to make sure shes protected properly . LOL

  • Anonymous

    More about those who use mis-information and dis-information to savagely attack our sacred Constitution: http://youtu.be/0CLzkpk9CzM?t=34s

  • bret

    F–ing foul. I hope can defend you and yours now……..

  • Silent Political Yeoman

    I guess these Hollow-wood idiots failed to see the meaning of the Red Dawn remake: you always fight for your home country from invasion. Except I’m willing to bet that the majority of Hollow-wood would be one of the first to side with the invaders and tell everyone to just surrender.

  • Ray

    Hs pals Castro and Chavez sure valued their “cowardly killing machines”. So much so, they could have them but private citizens could not. Penn is a tool.

  • Alexander Szatkowski

    …How is he a hypocrite? He publicly advocates gun control, and as of now owns none. That is the opposite of hypocritical.

  • Donna

    I felt compelled to respond to this discussion . My father killed his girlfriend and then himself about 35 years ago. I never once thought it was the guns fault. NEVER even crossed my mind. I grew up with guns in the house and with a respect for the fire arms.. My father was a hunter and a very good one. Guns were always locked up in the gun case. I blamed the incident on the fact that both my father and the girl friend were very DRUNK. Being inebriated does tend to cloud ones judgement and this is how I looked at it. The GUN was never an issue. Alcohol was what caused this situation.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    And run to them if they are marxist.

  • Anonymous

    I still don’t give a crap, even after your long, boring lecture. Bert30 is right. Time to switch off the TV and ignore these chumps.

  • Anonymous

    Bull crap! The republicans ran a weak candidate, and they came out in smaller numbers to vote than in 2008 which is just sad.

  • ken.

    because leftists believe that they are special and above everyone else, they are better and smarter then the rest of us, they are entitled while the rest of us are not, they believe they are gods and we are their slaves.

  • Anonymous

    No, it’s called having a basic education, doofus. Something everyone should learn in elementary school.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t stand people who use babies as avatars. Get a life!

  • Anonymous

    Teach them how to turn off a TV set. Problem solved!

  • Anonymous

    Sean Penn is such a dog. Isn’t is amazing how the left and speak out of both sides of their mouths when convenient. They are all about getting in our faces with stuff, but when it comes to them it is ok. Who care about him – he needs to take a hike and don’t look back.

  • Anonymous

    I just feel sorry for them, they are lost soles. We know where we are going – they on the other hand DON’T. Just a bunch of lost goats.

  • Anonymous

    You should use a period between yourself and it, not a comma.
    Don’t use a preposition to lead a sentence. Use it after speeches.
    Your last sentence is a question. Use a question mark.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, bumpkin has a right to speak too. Lots of people on this post think you’re the idiot of the day, so back off!

  • Donnie Hancock

    Here’s is where your logic is flawed and makes me bit suspicious of you. People DO pay attention to these celebrities. People unwittingly are influenced by just not what these celebrities overtly say and do but they also are influenced covertly by the entire entertainment industries.

  • Superduty

    Sean Penn has been smoking too much Hollywood crack. Ignore them and they will slowly drift away. Pay them attention and they will make a point of sticking it your face.

  • Anonymous

    It’s because he’s really just a dick.

  • Anonymous

    Good one!!

  • Donnie Hancock

    Because of “WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MATTER”– glad I’m not the only one

  • Anonymous

    Yes! A good ass-kicking is in order. Same with Alec Baldwin. Someone should kick his ass before he turns senior citizen.

  • Donnie Hancock

    What? They’ve already won based on your political approach… They’ve gotten what their ilk has wanted all a long. The majority not KNOWING and believing in a government of — WE THE PEOLE

  • Anonymous

    First, he only disposed of the guns he owns in the continental United States.. which is like me getting rid of the merely the chairs in my formal living room. Second, they are killing machines, but they don’t exclusively kill people. Put Sean on a deserted trail with an angry grizzly, or a pack of coyotes, and he would beg for a gun. Yes, indeed, it would still be a killing machine.. but there is nothing cowardly about saving one’s own life, unless he rather arm wrestle the grizzly or the pack personally. Third. He’s not the most attractive man, and he’s not getting any younger. He probably knows Charline is about the best he’s ever going to get at this time.. It reminds me of a single wanker throwing away his old porn collection to impress a new girlfriend who finds it offensive.. Most of these guys would dump them into boxes down by the trash can on garbage day.. Sean pays someone to make sculptures out of them.

  • Anonymous

    Fine, you want to melt your guns down to rubble. But don’t try and tell ME that I have to do the same.
    I didn’t tell YOU to melt them down, that was YOUR choice, so don’t tell me what my choice should be.

    Silly stupid liberal idiots, go ahead and leave yourselves defenseless , but for me and my family we will always have protection.

  • Ocellus Lucanus

    Victor tiffany, the original Peckerhead Beckerhead and his spamming monkey.

  • Allison Rohrbaugh

    I think what she means is, we cant just stick our heads in the sand. Obama obtained popularity very much through the media and hollywood. We can’t just say no one will listen to them, because there are idiots who worship these people. If we don’t inform them of the truth, they’ll jump off a bridge if a celebrity says it’s the next biggest craze.

  • Johnathan Read

    Penn chose a women over his 65 Firearms !

    That just shows the level of his insanity.

    He is melting those Firearms for them to be like his brain.

  • Anonymous

    Good dig, Paul. Loved it.
    You obviously don’t know J. Egdar (Hoover) very well. HE was NO lady and he was known to cussed up a storm often and is reputed to have worn ladies clothes often, too.
    You must not have met some of the (self identified) ‘ladies’ I have known, either. LOL

  • Damien Cross

    Wait, doesn’t PENN have armed body guards?
    I will not be going to any movies with the has been actor ( Penn ) and a stuck up, holier than thou kunt ( Theron ) in them.
    They both suck anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Look Allison, you empower celebrities by the simple act of paying attention to them. The quicker that more of us stop watching Sean Penn movies, the less popular he becomes and the less influence he has. Their only influence is their fame.
    The idiots you speak of, who worship these people…try and talk to them about your ideas, your politics, your beliefs. Believe me, they won’t listen to you. They have to decide for themselves not to be morons who get influenced by hypocritical anti-gun nuts like Sean Penn and Charlize Theron. If someone can’t see how ridiculously stupid Sean Penn’s actions are, then believe me they have deeper issues that you will never get to the bottom of.

  • Anonymous

    You said it all and it didn’t take a long-winded lecture did it? The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone? I think that’s in Proverbs somewhere. Ty and good day.

  • Anonymous

    Okay Donnie, but I sit back knowing that none of it is my fault and it gives me piece of mind.

  • Anonymous

    Frank, you think you’re clever don’t you? I DO care, that’s WHY I commented. I know that the quickest method of reducing someone’s influence is to cut off their publicity, NOT grant them an audience. I want THAT message to get out.

  • Anonymous

    By lots, I think you mean about 1% of the people, as evidenced above.

  • Lorraine

    What a waste of guns.

  • http://www.aaronsenvironmental.com MacAaron

    How does Anderson Cooper have $1.4M to waste on a sculpture?

  • Paul Crittenden

    Charlize Theron. You go, Sean! That’s the only good thing about this story. Listen, if you’re so feeble-minded that you have to abide with every fancy that flows through some actor/activist’s mind (this week) then you’re the problem.
    Today, I love Burger King. Tomorrow, I’ll hate fast food. Does it really matter?

  • plumberskid

    He has been advocating gun control or years, yet owned 65 of them. That’s how.

  • https://twitter.com/TerryOfromCA @TerryOfromCA

    Penn is a 100% PUNK!

  • Jim Ruth

    Not a bad racket. Buy a bunch of guns for under a hundred grand. Because you’re a celebrity, make a big deal out of getting rid of them. Have them made into a sculpture and sell it for over a million.

    Sean Penn has enough money to replace all of the guns overnight as soon as his relationship with Charlize Theron ends. He’ll probably repeat the scenario – but sell the sculpture for his own benefit next time. :-)

  • https://twitter.com/TerryOfromCA @TerryOfromCA

    Homos are often quite rich for some reason

  • Paula

    Actually I have heard that J Edgar was gay and a cross dresser…and had a Mother fixation. Back then that was taboo, today .. they wear their transgressions like a Badge of Honor!

  • Chad Christian

    You don’t have to like it, but reality is reality. The USA has not been lost in the political arena, probably 80 or 90 percent of the population is ignorant when it comes to politics and the government. Where the disaster has occurred is in the popular culture, entertainment, the media and education. In all these arenas, ones which Americans actually DO pay attention and understand, people like Penn have been allowed to drive the radical progressive narrative. It sounds ridiculous and you can rail against it all you want, but the fact is that the majority of people depend on these corrupted systems to drive their worldview and define their beliefs. These industries have demonized, subtly at first, the white male, conservatism, the military, law enforcement, and a host of other populations or institutions for years and the pay off has arrived as their view has become popular and accepted. Andrew Breitbart’s genius was evident in his realization that, though seemingly vapid and ridiculous, popular culture drives the narrative in this nation.

  • defiant1

    Who cares what this communist Penn does, as long as his political activities do not harm either the US or another person. I could care less about him and his personal life; actually he turns my stomach.

  • Dan Barrett

    This is the EXACT same thing as Stallone coming out in the past year , talking about how “guns should be illegal” Really Sly ? Illegal ? Let that sink in for a second. This is a man who has spent his entire movie career making films that basically show everyone how to NOT handle a firearm ..PERIOD. You people are right though. The sheeple will follow what these “do-gooders” say. The hypocrisy in Hollywood is mind boggling . I will say, that most of the actors that are jumping on the gun grabbing band wagon are, for all intents and purposes, no longer relevant .. so they jump on the latest craze to get in the spotlight again..

  • empty pockets

    Penn likely lacks the courage to actually use one of his 65 guns in an actual threatening situation. Though I’m confident he hasn’t used his “cowardly killing machines” to actually kill anyone (then why did he have them?) he has effectively killed one thing–any possibility that he will make so much as one red cent off of me.

  • landofaahs

    Trust fund baby.

  • Anonymous

    AND IT’S A DAMN SHAME ISN’T IT?!

  • Paulapilot

    The real question is, he was best buddies with Hugo Chavez; so what did Penn gain from THAT friendship. You KNOW he got something.

  • Bozo2U

    The ‘killing machine’ is not the gun, Sean.

  • Anonymous

    What cross dressers do is NONE of my business. That’s why I want ZERO exposure to it. I don’t even want to be in the same room as them because I cannot comprehend why a man would want to forego his own self respect and dress like a woman.

  • http://www.CMSConnection.com/ John Coonen

    Sean who?

  • Frank Johnson

    A guy who had 65 guns in his home probably realizes their self-defense value. I would bet a large sum that he has more guns stashed around his mansion. We know that liberals believe they, individually, are responsible enough to have firearms. And that everyone else isn’t.

  • Angyl Ricardi

    Anderson cooper is a VANDERBUILT on his mom’s side. He has MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars. Research his family. Filthy rich democrats.

  • Paulapilot

    Well, let’s look at that theory. “The republicans ran a weak candidate”. That may be the case but those with that thinking decided not to go vote at all or voted for a third candidate. Guess what – that actually got the president re-elected. Add tha to the fact that the unions pushed a drive to go out and take busloads of voters to the polls to vote. It was the perfect storm.
    As for the 2008 election, there was a lot of background push to make sure that weak candidate became the presidential candidate. Everyone new he could lose. Look at the background of George Soros and David Axelrod.
    Did it ever occur to someone to think -why would the unions (supported by cpusa) push to have this president re-elected? The way they were able to make the republican a “weak candidate” is by the news media working hard to make the opposition look like a weak candidate. All you have to do is go to the communist party usa website, peoples world, or youtube and search cpusa or sam webb and see what ideology is being pushed through.

  • Anonymous

    It is not that anyone really cares, but it is great to expose a hypocrite. That way when they open their mouths to the public, their words will have less meaning to the simpletons that follow these people. These are the people that spew mass propaganda. It is best that we stop them early. As educated people, we could care less what Sean Penn and his buddies do, but for all those imbeciles out their following this man, it is great to put him and his moronic friends in their rightful place. Hitler used a lot of propaganda just like Hollywood. If nobody exposes their lies and deceit they will continue their propaganda on the masses.

  • Frank Johnson

    As you, and I, know well chasing women isn’t cheap

  • Angyl Ricardi

    sorry, it’s Vanderbilt – not vanderbuilt. typo

  • elizabeth cohen

    I too agree with you. However, I will not listen to, nor take advice from a hypocrite, which sean penn is. I disagree with you on the “Liberal gets pissed off if we don’t pay attention to them. No, they want a fight, they want to call us filthy names and say see, they are racists and murderers. If we stay silent, well I will give you an example: Hitler’s Germany 1933 -1945.

  • elizabeth cohen

    Now there is a lie if I ever heard one. Are you drinking LSD laced kool aide. It was proven, absolutely that the election was fraudulent. How can a state have 120% turnout. Or another state that is mostly Republican have a turn out of 98% democrats. Seriously stay off the juice.

  • Anonymous

    I care what movie he appears in so that I can boycott it. Just like the movie “The Butler” which hit the DVD circuit very quickly. I bet it was because of Hanoi Jane being in the movie. I know that is the reason I did not see it.

  • Angyl Ricardi

    Theron’s mother killed her father because he was drunk and threatening her and her daughter, yet she says her FATHER would still be alive if her mom didn’t own a gun -why didn’t she mention her MOTHER and HERSELF would probably be dead if they didn’t own a gun to shoot and kill her father in his drunken rage? BTW that happened in S. Africa why is she talking about gun control in America? Its not legal to just buy a gun off the street in America. And why would she date a dude that is an alcoholic , has a history of domestic abuse and owns 65 guns?

  • Dale Edge

    Yeah, who cares what Penn says and does, he’s never amounted to anything other a dumbass hitting himself in the head with a shoe in Fast Times. It’s like taking a political statement from Charlie Sheen seriously. These dopes have no credibility with the real people of this country, the e tv sheep crowd sure, but not We the People.

  • Robert L Stark

    When did we get a black President??

  • goose

    65 old guns maybe?

  • Cliff E.

    So all the body guards he has when he goes to places…. .they are packing super soakers? Tasers? (Don’t Tase me bro) those telescoping baton things?…… i’d say the majority have those Crappy little Glock .40′s (okay not crappy but ugly as sin)

  • Chad Christian

    Because she is not a real person, she is a Hollywood idiot that has lost connection with reality.

  • Anonymous

    In January 2009 when he was inaugurated. Any more brain busters?

  • taljim

    The sad thing is that there is no longer a difference between the Main Stream (leftist) Media and their celebrity buddies, whose causes, the media takes on and crams down viewers throats. Many of those viewers are uneducated and easily swayed and/or influenced when they hear the msm spin machine use phrases such as, Family Safety, Protecting our Children etc… So yeah, I kind of have to give a shit when Sean Penn does something this dumb just to get laid. Yes, he’s a typical Hollywood Hypocrite, yes, he definitely STILL has guns in his house. Yes, I’m certain that Charlize is just stupid enough to believe that he got rid of ALL of them. The problem is that the msm will cram this down their equally stupid viewers throats and the whole anti-gun agenda will gain a little more momentum. THAT’s why anybody with a brain would care about what this ‘idiot’ does.

  • ohowonderful

    Hi, I don’t usually comment but I like Bert30′s comments. You are right. It is good to know that some of our younger people are concerned about things bigger than their own ego.

  • Sargonarhes

    The problem is there are a lot of weak minded people that hang on every word these self-important idiots. And these people know they have influence on some people which makes it worse, they may deny this fact. But look at how many of these celebrities came out for Obama, surely they would use these people like this if it wasn’t effective propaganda.

  • Theresa Rains

    I love the fact that glens shirt is wrinkled , it goes to show that he’s not stuffy. I don’t iron my self, I’m a wash and wear kinda girl .lol. Now to the Sean Penn thing. He’s got to find some way to be in the public eye. He’s a dumb ass . who flip flops because of a woman. He is a coward

  • Bill Tilghman

    I encourage people who feel as Charlize and Sean do to dismiss or disarm their security details since they feel so strongly about guns. After all, aren’t they supporting gun use by employing people to guard them with guns?

    If they really want to live as they preach they should act accordingly in every aspect of their lives. To simply take it out on inanimate objects is both superficial and cowardly. It is one thing to condemn the use of a machine, it is entirely another to live without the benefit of the same machines.

    The bubble of hypocrisy surrounding these people is absolute.

  • lois

    Hollywood is full of hypocrites! I’d bet he’d pick up a gun if his million dollar role called for one. I, for one, am tired of these vapid souls using their “celebrity” to espouse their unrealistic views. Keep spouting off and throwing money around—violence in movies is coming after they find “zero gun” policies won’t work.

  • Anonymous

    Not your best moment Glenn.

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm, something has changed along the way than because it use to be if you had been convicted of a felony.

  • Anonymous

    form 4473 is if you want to own an FFL, I just went and looked it up, that form isn’t for the average gun owner, that’s for licensed dealers.

  • Anonymous

    Nope, you were right..I just googled who can own one and I guess it changed back in ’96.

    http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm01117.htm

  • CeeHowUR

    Using alcohol for comparison is a bad argument. Alcohol doesn’t accidentally “go off”. You won’t be able to rob a bank by showing a bottle of alcohol. A person waving a bottle of alcohol generally won’t have a chance to kill anyone walking into a school or shopping mall with it.

  • Try again, Glenn!

    Glen Beck makes so many good points (albeit in an alienating and condescending way), but this is certainly not one of them. Like seemingly every conservative talk show host, he has been suckered hook, line, and sinker into the odd “guns are good” logic and become a complete puppet of the NRA. Conservatives – who have a great record on so many issues – completely crumble on this one, without even thinking it through. They claim to be pro-life, but that clearly stops after the abortion issue. If you don’t see guns as killing machines, then what are they? Handguns are designed to take human life.

    He is right about alcohol though. That’s certainly responsible for many ills in society as well.

    Stop making guns and alcohol – and stop making excuses for both!

  • Anonymous

    Thank you :)

  • Anonymous

    Guns don’t pull their own trigger. Guns can kill nothing without an operator. The fact that you can’t grasp that is very sad. How would you protect yourself against someone attacking YOU with a gun? If you are going to reply, don’t change the subject, don’t beat around the bush. PLEASE, only address the content of this post and the relevant topic at hand.

  • Slicer
  • Andy Robinson

    If handguns are made to take human life, then why is it that the rate of unlawful, accidental, and suicidal shootings with ~450 million lawfully owned weapons in the US is less than .0035%?

    If handguns are made to take human life, shouldn’t rural states, like Maine, Alaska, and many of the prairie states, which have firearm ownership rates in excess of 500 per 100, have five times the firearms death rate of the US as a whole (which averages about 150 firearms per 100 people)?

    Handguns are made and used primarily for sporting and recreational purposes, and secondarily for self-defense. And even if it were true that the gun was designed for no other purpose than to kill, no more than 1 in 28,000 guns are ever used for that purpose _now_. Claiming the origin of a thing limits its current utility is a logical fallacy (specifically, the genetic fallacy).

    By comparison, there are half as many cars (~245 million) and they kill twice as many people each year. Automobiles are four times as dangerous as firearms, and _they_ were intended for transportation!

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  • james

    Would you be willing to bet your life on that? As soon as that bottle is broken those glass shards can be immediately turned into lethal instruments. You’d never see it coming. Someone committed to the task easily take out 2 to 4 people. Anything can be used as a weapon, some can elevate the casualties to higher numbers. Majority of if not the very high 90% range of gun violence is not committed by legal gun owners. No gun as someone else has also said has ever killed anyone without somebody pulling the trigger. Alcohol has fueled countless rages that have caused people to kill with whatever is at hand. Including using the bottle itself.

  • Anonymous

    Agree,
    “Two Minutes Hate” is now 7/24………….

  • Anonymous

    Unless what he’s doing is trying to convince millions of people that you or I don’t have a right to own a gun………

  • Scott Sullivan

    The 4473 is the form YOU fill out every time you purchase a firearm certifying that you can legally own a firearm……the FFL keeps the form on file – it’s their record of who bought what, when…If and when the business closes, those records are sent to the BATFE,

    Yes…. the domestic violence thing changed under the Clinton Administration….

  • Daniel D Wenzel

    Maybe the “Artist/Sculpture” copied down all the firearms Serial#’s…..I mean the Serial#’s form those 65 Killing Machines just on the outside chance that Penn did kill/Murder someone from his immediate past.

  • Dawn Gunnari

    I think its fine but leave my rights alone !

  • bob

    You better care what people like Penn are saying because they are leading a big charge to take away peoples rights, not just firearms. And there are enough people who are blinded by stardom to follow them, not even knowing what they are trying to do.

  • CeeHowUR

    So are you more worried about dying at the hand of a broken bottle, or a gun?
    And who do you think could kill more people before being subdued or neutralized, a shooter or a drunken bottle holder?

  • Raymond Gray

    Bert 30 we or at least I do not care what sean dose with his guns!!! I do care how ever about how he portrays guns!!! What i do not understand is how you can make an acting career witch in part was using guns in movies!!! then stand in front of a mic condemning guns! If you are again guns then why accept money to promote guns for entertainment this hear is the problem!!! I want to support the second ammendment while i can make money from it but after i want to condem the very guns i made a living using in the movies Ill tell you rite now Im an american i own my guns legally! Anyone who wants to take them come and try but as you violate my constutional Rights i will violate yours

  • Anonymous

    Oh come now, it is obvious that Sean Penn is a great man who was using his considerable financial assets to benefit society by paying street thugs large sums to buy their guns and keep them off the streets. I haven’t yet found his foundation that pays a considerable stipend to those thugs to keep them from a life of crime, but I’m sure it will surface somewhere.

    We should not denigrate this philanthropist, think of all the lives he has saved by trying to monopolize the supply of guns. As to his friendship with Hugo Chavez, we, and the people of Venezuela should be grateful – every minute Mr. Penn spent with Senor Chavez was a minute that Chavez wasn’t doing damage to his people or the world. I haven’t been able to evaluate the total effect yet, but am sure it is considerable.

    As to celebrities, we really should listen to them as they have far more experience than we do. They get to play the part of all sorts of people, and get to understand all walks of life by carefully studying their scripts. They understand reality because they see it on the carefully built sets and in the actions of the other actors who themselves are totally into their roles. How can we, who lead our lives only in our direct experiences, possibly understand the world they see.

    When entertainment is seen as reality, when history is learned from Hollywood, when government is run by theoreticians, we are in trouble. When roving reporters interview college students who recognize neither the current major government figures nor the historical ones – and can’t pick out countries on a map – we are in trouble. I concur with Bert30 that we shouldn’t care what celebrities think, the problem is that too many voters do.

  • http://www.donaldappleby.com/ Donald Appleby

    A President with a pen can kill thousands of people and never see a gun. How about STOP ASKING THE GOVERNMENT TO DO EVERYTHING!!!!! The more you want them to do the more liberty and freedom they take. You can not own guns in Mexico, how safe is it there? The more guns owned by private citizens the less violent crime. Notice I did not say gun crime because those numbers are rigged. Adding criminals being shot by the police as a gun crime is crazy.

  • http://www.donaldappleby.com/ Donald Appleby

    If everyone in the room had a concealed carry gun, about the same.

  • chuckles

    Everyone failed to mention that the reason you have guns in S Africa is,….because it’s an arm pit below the equator. You had to protect yourself before the change or after the change. The Mandella movement started as a violent communist overthrow. The reason Mandela is fondly remembered is he gave that up. The reason people overlook Martin Luther Kings crap is he was peaceful. If Malcom X would have led the movement, there would have been a bloodbath. Guns are necessary everywhere, all the time. The people need protection from criminals or their own government no matter where you live. Our Founders knew this. Don’t forget the mom seemed to need a gun to protect the family from a drunk.

  • Anonymous

    The crude, obnoxious, liberal, communist prick will just replace his weapons. 65 gun meltdown…..his arsenal must have needed updating!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been responding to a lot of people in here who in my opinion are overstating the significance of the influence celebrities have. The funny thing is, I just noticed that I was careful in my wording in my original comment. I said that LIBERALS get pissed off when you don’t pay attention to them, not CELEBRITIES. My qualifier is that if you don’t pay attention to LIBERALS, then you probably wouldn’t be voting for them.

  • Anonymous

    I appreciate your candor Raymond. I will say this however, when you allow a person to piss you off, they have power over you. When someone tries to piss you off on purpose and fails to do so, they are powerless. The anti-gun crowd will always be around. This is what I find to be a paradox…I live in a very woodsy area, guns everywhere, people hunt. I don’t own even one gun, I never hunt, never do anything firearm related. I’m just not interested in guns. BUT….I support every gun owner’s right to continue being a gun owner. Now this Liberal Sean Penn who went to the effort of buying 65 guns wants to act like he’s anti-gun. Liberals really aren’t actually…liberal. I don’t know how else to say it. Look into the mind of a Leftist, do they really care about anybody? Or do they just want someone to care about what they have to say?

  • Robert L. Rice

    Sean Penn is a FU—-G joke,,,Who cares what he says or does ,NOT ME,,Hey charlize,you can come stay at my place,but I wont give up my guns for a PU$$Y shot………

  • Robert L. Rice

    OH BY THE WAY,My sisters,husbands 2nd cousins,wifes, sisters, sons, girlfriends ,brothers,ex-girlfriends,mothers,other daughter,and her husband DIDNT MAKE ANY MONEY OFF OF THE INTERNET,they made their money the old fashioned way,,,,,THEY WORKED FOR IT…………

  • Rowzer

    What about his guns outside “the continental United States”? Does he have a stash somewhere else to replace the ones he melted down?

  • Try again, Glenn!

    If guns aren’t dangerous, why do we have safety courses for them? Guns also discharge in accidents. I know someone without a quarter of his face that disagrees with your premise above. As far as staying safe it someone attacked me with a gun, I actually had that happen once. I prayed, found a way to safety, and the police arrested the perpetrator that very night.

    I’m not against the right to own a gun, by the way. I just wish we lived in a world that didn’t have them. And I don’t think there’s a lot of sense in making more of them.

  • Try again, Glenn!

    Thank you for the stats.
    All the stats I’ve previously seen put the number of guns in the US in the range of 200 million. Scary to think that there could be double that amount out there.

    The stats about automobiles are very believable. Of course, we have a ton of regulations on who can drive and how they can be used. Suggest something similar for guns, and people might question your intelligence, manhood, and species!

  • Andy Robinson

    The 450 million number was incorrect–I can’t find the source now. Multiple sources report the count as of 2011 as 310 million. Given that AR-15 sales in 2012 (before Newtown) were ~$5 billion (NYTimes), which is 4.7 million weapons at the then-typical price, I would estimate that at least 20-30 million weapons of all kinds have been added to that total since 2011. That’s still well shy of the $450 million I claimed.

    However, the effect on my statistics is linear (.0047% as opposed to .0035%), and does not affect the conclusions: the origin of a thing is not determinate of its current utility, and legally owned firearms in the US are, for all practical purposes, not used for killing or hurting people.

    But cars are only 3 times as dangerous as guns… ;-)

  • Andy Robinson

    Both of you are being pedantic. A gun is not dangerous without a human operator, but no one is talking about possessed weapons that go around shooting people without said operator.

    Guns are dangerous, absolutely. There are many things we use that are as dangerous or more dangerous, but some people, mostly those who cannot comprehend why anyone would enjoy firearms for their own sake, insist that the only purpose of firearms is to hurt and kill, even though they are safer by that measure than many things such people consider more useful in daily life.

    Beyond which, firearms ownership is a constitutionally protected (not granted) individual civil right in the US. This is not a new interpretation: it has been held by US courts since the first cases in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, and reinforced in the early 21st century by SCOTUS decisions. Whether you like that or agree with it, or think it’s retrograde or whatever, is irrelevant: you should be defending that right with the same vigor as the first, fourth, fifth, or any other cherished American civil right.

  • Dan Heizinger

    Maybe he’s going to Cuba again

  • Josh Kirk

    Its not that Bert is wrong but until we can change the “more people voting for the next American Idol than the U.S. president” mentality of this nation people like Penn and Theron will unfortunately have too much negative influence on our people, especially the impressionable youth. THAT is why story’s like this need to be told, so these people can be shown as the hypocrites that they are.

  • Anonymous

    Penn getting rid of guns is about as interesting as Beck buying more guns.

  • ThorsteinVeblen2012

    Help for the people of Haiti?

  • Anonymous

    What RLS means is Obama isn’t really all black – mama and Grands were white – only dada was black (and a red commie)!

  • Sea Rock

    … “Why does anybody care about this?” …

    Busted: Gun Control Legislator Dianne Feinstein Discusses Why She Concealed Carried Firearms Kyle Becker | On 26, Jan 2013
    As posted at: http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/32591-busted-gun-control-legislator-dianne-feinstein-discusses-why-she-concealed-carry-firearms/
    As posted at: http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/32591-busted-gun-control-legislator-dianne-feinstein-discusses-why-she-concealed-carry-firearms/

    Senator Dianne Feinstein, author of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and the senator currently at the forefront of the Democrat Party’s Congressional push for tighter gun control, talks about why she once had a concealed carry permit for a gun … Senator Dianne Feinstein no longer has a concealed carry permit… because she no longer needs one. As a United States Senator, she has access to armed security. But when she someday exits office, does anyone wonder if her home will be without any kind of arms on the premises?

    Gun Control Misses Mark: Sen. Feinstein Shoots-off Mouth, Hits Foot
    Larry Bell, Contributor OP/ED | 3/26/2013 @ 8:00AM |16,790 views
    As posted at: http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/03/26/gun-control-misses-mark-sen-feinstein-shoots-off-mouth-hits-foot/

    … Feinstein told the Associated Press on November 18, 1993 that: “Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe”. Yet referring to a time when she believed she was the target of a terrorist group, the senator expressed a very different viewpoint to colleagues during April 1995 Senate hearings on terrorism. She said: “And, I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself, because that’s what I did. I was trained in firearms. I’d walk to the hospital when my husband was sick. I carried a concealed weapon. I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out, I was going to take them with me.”

    Being armed she might well have been more fortunate than a young woman named Amanda Collins, a rape victim who testified this month before a Colorado legislative committee on the state’s proposed gun ban legislation. Collins was attacked at gunpoint at a University of Nevada-Reno parking garage in a gun-free zone located 50 feet away from the campus police department office in October 2007. Her assailant later raped at least two other women and murdered another. Although she had a concealed weapons permit, university policies prohibited her from carrying a gun…

  • Paulapilot

    trust me. these folks don’t do this stuff unless they benefit with something. Perhaps they harbor guilt for making so much money. Rather than open their pockets and give their riches to Haiti, they try to take it from others in the form of donations.
    So why are the Haitians still living in poverty if they’re getting so much help from us? You have to wonder where all the money the Haitian government receives from other governments goes.

  • ThorsteinVeblen2012

    Sean Penn has spent a considerable amount of time that he could have used to make more money. Whatever negative things you may think of Sean Penn on Haiti he’s stepped up like no one else.

    You’d think Barack Obama would do something to help Haiti, fact is Obama has done more to help the wealthy few who control that country including working against raising the minimum wage there.

    Why have Haitians done so poorly? Because of outside interests going back to when Woodrow Wilson occupied the country and rewrote their constitution to favor of business interests.

    I believe Smedly Butler won one of his two Medals of Honor in Haiti. Butler said “war is a ratchet” and wrote a book by the same title.

  • Anonymous

    People the question is “Do their bodyguards still carry?”

  • Anonymous

    What does someone as beautiful as Charlize Theron see in Sean Penn. He is a communist Hugo Chavez loving a&& Hole. Charlize must be blind but then she is probably a commie lover also. What else could she see in him! She sure could find a lot better looking commie or socialist lover.

  • Guest

    The first amendment is constantly reevaluated when new technology is
    introduced. (We ask questions such as “Are bloggers journalists – and
    entitled to protect sources?”) It’s reasonable when advances in
    technology allow for weaponry that can eliminate scores of children in a
    matter of moments to evaluate whether every person in this country
    should be entitled to a closet full of them. The right to own every
    destructive new weapon is not an inalienable right given to us by God,
    no matter how loud Wayne LaPierre shouts that the only thing that stops a
    bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

  • Try again, Glenn!

    The first amendment is constantly reevaluated when new technology is introduced. (For example, we ask questions such as “Are bloggers journalists – and entitled to protect sources?”) It’s reasonable when advances in technology allow for weaponry that can eliminate scores of children in a matter of moments to evaluate whether every person in this country should be entitled to a closet full of them.

    The right to own every destructive new weapon is not an inalienable right give to us by God, no matter how loudly Wayne LaPierre shouts that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

  • Try again, Glenn!

    Thanks for the clarification.

    The low proportion of deaths to the high amount of guns is a semi-decent argument, although it’s understandable that the mass shootings still attract huge attention and calls for further attempts to prevent them.

    The comparison of gun deaths to auto deaths is also a semi-decent argument, although there’s usually a major difference in intent.

    What do you think about the constant manufacturing and addition of guns into an already dangerous environment? I’ve listened, but so far haven’t heard a convincing argument in favor of it. Interestingly, some high-profile conservatives join me in opposing it.
    President Reagan solidly opposed the production of military-style assault weapons: (http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/reaganak47.asp)
    President George H.W. Bush publicly and forcefully withdrew from the
    NRA, declaring in an open letter that he opposed them.
    (http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/bushnra.asp)

  • Andy Robinson

    Guest: Actually, the second amendment _is_ an inalienable right. The constitution does not grant that right, it merely protects it.

    Civil rights are not “reevaluated” in the face of new technology. New technology is evaluated to determine how to legally address its interaction with civil rights. Free speech remains free speech, and protected, even though the free speech equivalent of a nuclear weapon (the Internet) may be the means by which it is conveyed.

    But your point is wrong: there have been no significant advances in firearms in 100 years. The mechanisms, features, and magazine capacities, which people rail against today, all existed in the early 1900s. Only the presentation (AR-15 as opposed to a Thomas Gun, or a Glock as opposed to an M1911) has changed.

    As far as “scores of children,” as a father I would like to punch in the face every person who tries to use dead children to advance a political agenda. But since I can’t, let’s address the issue head on: no gun control legislation ever proposed or enacted would save “scores of children.” And even if some children could be saved, that is NOT sufficient cause to enact legislation that would impact the civil rights over nearly half the adult population of the U.S.

    Let me put it another way: are you one of the many people claiming the NSA has violated your fourth amendment rights? Yet it is a 90% probability that you at least passively supported USA PATRIOT when it was enacted in 2002. And that legislation enabled the surveillance programs you see today. And as a security and intelligence professional, I can tell you that those programs are part of what the NSA _must_ do to detect potential threats before they occur. Yet I do NOT support those programs, and neither do most Americans now that they understand what the programs mean. Yet those programs _might_ save thousands, maybe even millions of American lives.

    Our rights are our rights, even when having them can cause death and misery. The fact you don’t agree with a civil right is no excuse to try to limit it by your definition of “reasonable.”

  • Andy Robinson

    Try again, Glenn: Actually, the second amendment _is_ an inalienable right. The constitution does not grant that right, it merely protects it.

    Civil rights are not “reevaluated” in the face of new technology. New technology is evaluated to determine how to legally address its interaction with civil rights. Free speech remains free speech, and protected, even though the free speech equivalent of a nuclear weapon (the Internet) may be the means by which it is conveyed.

    But your point is wrong: there have been no significant advances in firearms in 100 years. The mechanisms, features, and magazine capacities, which people rail against today, all existed in the early 1900s. Only the presentation (AR-15 as opposed to a Thomas Gun, or a Glock as opposed to an M1911) has changed.

    As far as “scores of children,” as a father I would like to punch in the face every person who tries to use dead children to advance a political agenda. But since I can’t, let’s address the issue head on: no gun control legislation ever proposed or enacted would save “scores of children.” And even if some children could be saved, that is NOT sufficient cause to enact legislation that would impact the civil rights over nearly half the adult population of the U.S.

    Let me put it another way: are you one of the many people claiming the NSA has violated your fourth amendment rights? Yet it is a 90% probability that you at least passively supported USA PATRIOT when it was enacted in 2002. And that legislation enabled the surveillance programs you see today. And as a security and intelligence professional, I can tell you that those programs are part of what the NSA _must_ do to detect potential threats before they occur. Despite that, I do NOT support
    those programs, and neither do most Americans now that they understand what the programs mean. Yet those programs _might_ save thousands, maybe even millions of American lives.

    Our rights are our rights, even when having them can cause death and misery. The fact you don’t agree with a civil right is no excuse to try to limit it by your definition of “reasonable.”

  • Andy Robinson

    Try again, Glenn: What Reagan and Bush do is not of concern to me. Do you assume I am politically aligned with them? I am by no definition a conservative, nor are roughly half of the 90+/- million Americans who own firearms.

    Whatever the case, I try to think for myself: I do not belong and have never belonged to the NRA. Although I support their educational and advocacy missions, I find the rhetoric of the ILA (the lobbying part of the NRA) to often be inflammatory and counterproductive. It’s one thing to point out a person’s voting record on second amendment issues. It’s another to run him down because he has different beliefs.

    There is no consistent causal link between the number of firearms and the number of firearms crimes, beyond the fact that firearms are required to commit firearms crimes. Some areas have extremely high firearms ownership rates and extremely low violent crime rates. These tend to be areas where the public is not alienated from the lawful uses of firearms (in other words, where they are integral to the culture).

    Unlike many gun rights advocates, I do not claim that more guns has any causal link to reduced crime. Though there is some correlative evidence to this effect, it is more likely that other factors are at play. However, I _do_ claim that more guns does not lead to _more_ crime.

    After his experience in Portland, Maine, the new police chief of Detroit (a black man) suggested that the answer to the rampant violence in Detroit was to relax gun ownership and concealed carry requirements. His reasoning is that open and concealed carry are common in Maine, and Maine’s crime rate is lower than most countries used as examples of effective gun control. I think this is poor reasoning: Detroit is not Maine, and relaxing gun control will _not_ necessarily reduce crime. But it will also _not_ increase crime.

    I am not sure this is responsive to your question, but let me know.

    I believe the answer is the opposite of what you are thinking: re-integrate the lawful use of firearms (competitive shooting, plinking (shooting at non-living targets, like well-shaken cans of cheap soda), hunting, etc.), into the American mainstream. Reintroduce shooting clubs and rifle and pistol teams into all American schools (where they were the norm until the 1960s). In short, teach people the proper use of firearms, much as you teach them the proper use of stoves, knives, automobiles, and other dangerous technologies and activities. Teach them from the moment they can comprehend that firearms are not to be used as tools of power and intimidation, nor is it acceptable to shoot another person except in self-defense, and only then in uttermost extremity.

    I personally can’t blame urban dwellers for being afraid of guns. All they ever see is the criminal side of firearms, either in person, or in the news, or portrayed in the media. But I can blame them for trying to protect their ignorance by infringing on my right to keep and bear arms.

  • Try again, Glenn!

    That’s an interesting proposal – with plenty of merit. Education can definitely improve the situation. It was only last year that I learned about gun education in the schools as recently as the 60s. It came as quite a surprise.

    I’ve lived in urban areas, where people often assume guns are to perpetrate crime, and in rural areas, where people assume guns are to prevent crime. It’s a wide cultural gap.

    I’m not against the right to gun ownership for self-defense purposes. And I agree that much of the proposed legislation is emotionally-based and not practically helpful. But I do wish for a limit to the manufacturing of additional guns when we have so many already. Do you see value in that?

    Thank you for your knowledgeable insights. I appreciate your perspective.

  • Andy Robinson

    Does your desire to limit the production of firearms arise from a belief that this will reduce gun violence, or are you looking for middle ground? This is an honest question (by which I mean I am not setting you up for some particularly crushing rebuttal, however you answer).

    I do not believe there is any justification for artificially limiting a commodity for which there is demand, especially when gun ownership has increased over 50% over the past 20 years, and violent crime has decreased by between 40-50%. More guns = less crime is faulty reasoning, but more guns = more crime is completely disproved or very close to that.

    The only common ground I may be able to offer is that I feel most people who buy firearms “to feel more safe” should not be buying firearms. Too often such things are done impulsively, and the weapon is never used in training or practice, nor the individual prepared for the responsibility of becoming proficient in what amounts to killing another person. But I do not believe the government has any business dictating such things–that is a choice that must be left up to each individual. I will just continue to counsel such people to enroll in a good martial arts program first.

  • Anonymous

    The only problem here is that they are in the public eye and abuse that with their political views over the airwaves. Less educated folks fall prey to the way they spin this stuff. For instance the brainwashing statement that violence was in the house “because of guns.” Folks swallow that even though it couldnt be further from the truth. Violence was in the house because of some sick minds. Another way liberals slyly move the argument away from the real problem and focus it on an inanimate object.

  • Try again, Glenn!

    Hey – Thanks for the reply.
    I join you in the idea that people buying guns just to feel safe are probably not making the best decision.

    My desire for less production of firearms comes from a couple of factors. First, with the number we have already, I wonder about the need. I do understand that it’s not our government’s job to make some of these decisions, but I definitely question whether gun manufacturers should have cart blanche when it seems that some of their products are easily altered by criminals into even more powerful forms. If they fund the NRA and lobby so heavily, it seems reasonable that the other side should get to lobby a bit as well. Second, I oppose free accessibility to weapons without consideration for a person’s state of mind or criminal record and think that the addition of guns heightens that problem. If guns were as accessible when I was in high school as they are today, my school probably would have had multiple Sandy Hook type incidents. The rage was there; thankfully the weapons were not.

  • Liberalism is Nonsense

    Since liberty offers only the opportunities and risks of developing one’s talents, it puts people under a pressure that is often resented.

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  • Silent Political Yeoman

    They’re really French in disguise! :D

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  • Anonymous

    Hell, at one time I thought she prefered to date Earthlings.