Glenn reacts to the story of a potential real-life demon possession in Indiana

One of the most popular stories on TheBlaze today involves a real-life demon possession being reported in Gary, Indiana. As TheBlaze’s Jason Howerton reported, some of the details are almost too horrifying to believe, and Glenn reacted to the bizarre claims on radio this morning.

“This is a lead story now up on TheBlaze.com and we’re going to be doing a special on it next week,” Glenn said. “It is really freaky. The sheriff, a nurse, a psychiatrist has examined the family [and] they have said that the family’s not crazy and everything else.”

Indiana mother Latoya Ammons claims her three children have showed signs of being possessed, including “evil” smiles and strangely deep voices, the Indianapolis Star reports. From levitation to walking up walls, her allegations would normally be easy to dismiss – except for the fact that a child services case worker and a hospital nurse reportedly witnessed the ordeal.

TheBlaze reports:

Strangely enough, the scary-sounding incident is outlined in official documents. Further, Gary police Capt. Charles Austin told the Star that he is a “believer” after making several visits to the home and interviewing witnesses. He first thought the family was making stories up as part of a get-rich-quick scheme.

Ammons’ home was “exorcized” by a catholic priest in a number of ceremonies that were reportedly authorized by the Diocese of Gary. The story apparently became so believable that officers with the police department said they were too scared to stay at the house and some city officials wouldn’t even step foot on the property.

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In March 2012, Ammons claims she rushed to check on her 12-year-old daughter after hearing her screams. When she entered the bedroom, she says she witnessed her daughter levitating above her bed unconscious.

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Ammons claims her childrens’ eyes bulged and they regularly sported evil smiles, effects of their possession. Her youngest child would reportedly sit in a closet and talk to an invisible child that no one could see. She also claims he was once thrown from the bathroom when no one was even near him.
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Later in 2012, child protective services in Indiana was contacted to investigate the mother for possible child abuse or mental illness. A psychiatrist reportedly evaluated Ammons and determined she was not mentally ill.

A family case manager reportedly interviewed the family and witnessed a number of strange occurrences. Valerie Washington confirmed that she witnessed the youngest boy growling before his eyes rolled back in his head.

Washington also claimed she saw the 9-year-old boy flash a “weird grin” and then walk backward up a wall to the ceiling. Her account was corroborated by a nurse.

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While there is still a chance this story is completely fabricated. But in Glenn’s opinion, the extent of the corroboration in the case gives incident merit.

“I will tell you this: I’m not up on my demon, you know, moonwalking thing. But I will tell you this: I know kids can’t do it. I know humans can’t do it… I mean are they all in it for money or for a movie or what? That’s a possibility because it’s so hard to believe,” Glenn said. “But I mean, man, it seems like there’s a lot of credible people on the outside of this family that have nothing to gain that are like, ‘Uh, I don’t know what that is, but that ain’t normal.’”

Regardless of the outcome, Glenn is definitely interested in learning more about the story.

“We are going to be doing a special on this house probably next week and the people involved,” Glenn said. “You don’t want to miss it.”

Watch a report of the story via the Indianapolis Star below:

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    Ladies and gentlemen I think the Democrats found their presidential candidate for 2016.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    Yeah you would think people would be smart enough to sell a home when the walls start bleeding and talking.

  • Anonymous

    I am stunned that so many people find this “unbelievable”, including GB himself. Read “An Exorcist Tells His Story” by Gabriel Amorth, Rome’s chief exorcist…

  • Black

    Well gee, she contacted clairvoyants and it continued? Hmm. And the catholic church didn’t get rid of it either? Thats just…OBVIOUS! Why not call in the church of satan to help? There is ONE GOD. Without the power of Christ and belief in the ONE TRUE GOD you are only fooling yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Possession is rare, but real. Demonic home infestation is also real. Exorcisms by Catholic priests are real, and often require many attempts, prayer and sacrifice from friends and especially family, great patience and great faith. These are all well documented facts.

  • Anonymous

    Silly ghost hunter shows go about dark houses looking at “readings” on their gadgets, not knowing that they are chasing fallen angels.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently, the Catholic exorcist DID banish the demon(s)

  • Anonymous

    A Catholic priest, in fact, with the ritual of exorcism, is the ONLY method by which to banish demons…and YES, in the name of Christ (Catholics were Christians before anyone else)

  • Take 2

    The blaze needs to really get involved earlier in awareness in key states that seem to determine political outcomes ie national level races.

    GOP needs big time player out of California Florida vp Ohio combo ticket. And have me help on national add(s) I say blow it up from past stupidity eg nice guy turn cheek.

  • dangerdad

    Heh, except before they were called Catholic. And then there’s Orthodox vs. Western, Coptics, etc.

  • Dan Williams

    Anyone who doubts this should watch “The Conjuring”, which is based on real events. Yes, it’s a Hollywood movie, but the people involved are real and have documented dozens of demon possessions.

  • tanyeaW

    to believe in Gaurdian Angels one would have to believe in Demons every positive has a negative

  • madman101

    Just as people have difficulty believing in God now…they also deny evil exists. Makes sense.

  • isis5551

    Yee of little faith. You believe in GOD and know that HE is capable of miracles. So why is it so hard to believe that there is also a Satan that isn’t just as capable of doing evil things? There are documented facts of demon posession. And just by moving, doesn’t necessarily mean the posession ends, and that he does not follow them to their new dwelling. You do call in professionals. And a Catholic Priest is the only ones I know of that do exorcisims, as they are dangerous. Personally I do not think this is laughable. Far too many witnesses with nothing to gain. I hope when you go to this home, you also ask if they have any pictures, video, and tape recordings of all these incidents. And might I also suggest saying a prayer before you enter?

  • John Gallion

    The naivete and ignorance of our American society is unbeliveable. We have swallowed the lie that we are too sophisticatred to accept such things. Well, I’ve traveled the world and seen it everywhere and now I’m seeing it spreading fast in the United States. Three generations of Americans have been Satanically abused by their parents or abducted for this reason. The increase of occultist television shows and vampirism and occultist pop stars is a part of the imprinting and brainwashing. The Dark Awakening is coming soon and the ONLY thing that will protect you from this growing dark army is a relationship with the Christ and the indwelling Holy Spirit and the power to have Him work through you.

  • Anonymous

    Physics doesn’t work like this. Even if people say it does, it doesn’t.

  • Anonymous

    Only one “e” in “Ye”.

  • Anonymous

    Evil is totally real, but it doesn’t get a pass when it comes to nature.

  • Anonymous

    Check these out:
    Driving Out the Devil – Exorcism Documentary
    http://youtu.be/dgGOs1nJ0fw

    Caryl Matrisciana- Spiritual Warfare
    http://youtu.be/0PmhNN1G1SY

  • Anonymous

    “Catholic” came about as a way to distinguish from heretics :)

  • Anonymous

    Orthodox and other schismatics were centuries later

  • Oscar Pearson

    Dictator Obummer secretly invading this family!

  • Anonymous

    very true – in fact, Satan’s greatest weapon now is stealth – that people no longer believe in him. I believe CS Lewis alludes to this in his “Screwtape Letters” preface.

  • Anonymous

    AMEN JG!!

  • Anonymous

    “There are more things in heaven and earth, AToTheK1, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.” Don’t make the mistake of confusing “I see” with “there is.”

  • RevelationKnowledge

    Contact Bob Larson

  • Gail Crosby

    I don’t believe possession is a rare. These days people are opening themselves to the occult and demonic influences without even realizing it. Glen – I’d love for you to interview Frank Peretti. He is an awesome author who writes great fiction, but not without a factual basis. He comes to this subject from an evangelical background.

  • ForTheTruth

    Wrong. The “church” was started in the 2nd chapter of the book of Acts on the Day of Pentecost. Where the Apostles, namely Peter, proclaimed that the new converts and all the witnesses in the city who had just witnessed the infilling of the Holy Spirit, just how Jesus had promised it…should be baptized in the name of Jesus. This is what all of the early believers preached. The Catholic church can be dated some 300 years later, when Constantine; under a lot of pressure from the polytheistic, Pagan territories conquered by Rome, called for Christian Bishops to be convened for the Council of Nicea, where many of the modern day, Catholic beliefs were established. So sorry, Catholics, were not Christians before anyone else. In fact, the term “Christian” was first used in Antioch to describe the followers of Jesus, and it was meant to be derogatory.

  • fakekn8

    I swear every time I see G.B. he looks more and more like Teddy Roosevelt.

  • Anonymous

    Landlords tend to frown upon tenants doing that. Plus, good luck finding a buyer. If realtors think satellite dishes are eyesores, wait until they get a load of the hoof prints on the ceiling.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, Ignatius of Antioch used the term in a letter written in the year 107. Catholic beliefs have not changed since the early Church; those who claim differently have simply swallowed anti-Catholic propaganda without doing their own research, much as many of them quote “proof texts” from the Bible without true understanding of the Christian faith. The myth that Constantine started the Catholic Church is a complete falsehood; there is no evidence for that point of view anywhere extant.

  • Anonymous

    In the name of Jesus any prayed up Christian can remove demons in people and houses etc….and churches….God gave us the power over all the power of the devil.

  • Abimalech

    The way was actually the first people to follow Christ. They were later called Christians as a form of ridicule.

  • Anonymous

    Though both angels and demons do exist, tanyeaW, the positive/negative balance holds true only in nature. Supernatural things are not subject to that rule.

  • Betty Lou Schwartz

    Well, we have always known demons are real, but for the longest time no one would believe in them. With all the movies, and music, and books, etc out and all the horrible things people want to see, I guess Satan is deciding he doesn’t have to hide or disguise them anymore…Lots of prayers , folks, lots of prayers. Time to wake up and realize they are real, and ask for God’s forgiveness on what we have done to this world.

  • Anonymous

    wow, did you just invent your own theology on the spot? I would need PAGES to describe all of your errors above, but suffice to say that you are not ready for that MDIV final exam

  • Glenn Zachman

    The catholic church minimizes the power of Christ by praying to the virgin Mary. Why not find a Holy Spirit filled evangelical minister that truly believes in the power of God to banish demons. Mary cannot banish demons. Neither can Saint Christopher. Only Jesus Christ and His authority can drive out demonic posession.

  • Anonymous

    There is one more thing John that people need in order to protect from evil and that is KNOWLEDGE. If people do not know what is in the Bible or understand it they will not know when it is the evil one before them, or how to deal with it.

  • Anonymous

    GZ, you misunderstand so much about Catholic theology. With just a fraction of the vigor with which you deride it, you could learn volumes of truth which, thus far, has eluded you…

  • Anonymous

    You were right to put that book down after page one. Imagine all of the other shortcomings to be planted in your head had you continued to read!

  • Andrea Loquenzi Holzer

    I’m sorry to say this but Catholic priests won’t be able to solve anything. The sole fact that they are Catholics will prevent them from having any kind of positive effect on the issue at hand. It takes a godly man to deal with the demons… someone that knows how to wear the complete armor of God. A pastor would do a lot better than a priest, Pastor Jim Logan, for example. But I don’t know if he’s still doing exorcism at his age. My humble advice is to be really, really careful when dealing with demons. I know: it sounds a superficial thing to say but it ain’t so. Glenn Beck – God bless him and his collaborators – should BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL when he goes there. Investigating such things is dangerous beyond human comprehension.@ vdestefa: I was born and raised in Rome and I’ve met and spoke in various occasions with Padre Amorth. I was even present at some of his exorcisims. He used to invoke the Vergin Mary: utterly useless.

  • Anonymous

    Good luck with that, MA. Look for documentation of SUCCESSFUL exorcisms in history and the trail is decidedly Catholic.

  • Glenn Zachman

    Catholic priests fear the Devil and his demons. God did not give us a spirit of fear, but boldness to speak authority over the devil. As the bible says. Remember, we battle not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities.

  • Anonymous

    No one said that Mary could. Contrary to Scripture, Protestants declare (using no authority that can be explained) that those in Heaven with Jesus are isolated from us, when this is not the case. We ask the saints – especially Mary, who by gift of God was the most perfect fully-human creature ever created by God – to pray for us to Jesus, much as you would ask a friend to pray for you. The real question is – does your Evangelical minister have the authority that Christ gave the Apostles, which was passed on in an unbroken chain of laying on of hands? The answer is “No, he doesn’t” – so by what authority does he operate? Hint: no book, not even the Bible, can of itself grant authority; authority comes through persons, and originally through the person of Jesus Christ Himself.

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    My friend lived in a haunted house for a while. From what he’s said, WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO LIVE IN ONE?!!?

  • Anonymous

    I cannot fathom your density. You met perhaps the one man who could open your eyes on the matter, Amorth, but you have not understood. Apparently, you did not read his book. Nor do you understand Catholic theology concerning Mary, as obvious in your reference.

  • Anonymous

    How is it that non-Catholics presume to know so much about Catholicism and profess their error as FACT when attempting to debase Catholic theology. It’s a circular error, yet so commonly accepted. Can’t figure.

  • Glenn Zachman

    Several years ago as a young Christian, I came face to face with a demon posessed individual and was fearful before I had the full knowledge that Christ gave us all the authority over the devil and his demons…

  • ForTheTruth

    No, No, I did not mean that Constantine started the Catholic Church. Although, I understand how my comment came across that way. Only that under him, and thusly, the Council of Nicea, can be used as a starting point for many not only Catholic, but Protestant doctrines, that before then did not exist.

    The term Christian used in the Bible: Acts 11:26, “and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And it came about that for an entire year they met with the church, and taught considerable numbers; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.” Acts 26:28, “And Agrippa replied to Paul, “In a short time you will persuade me to become a Christian.”

    The Book of Acts is dated by any Biblical scholar, no later than 64 A.D., with the possibility of 72 A.D., although that is almost certainly not true, because it doesn’t mention the destruction of Jerusalem. So earlier than the year 107.

    I do know my theology, and history of the church, and haven’t swallowed any anti-Catholic propaganda. Not only was I raised Catholic, but more importantly, I don’t believe that there is any room for “propaganda” to a true Christian. I’m not here to discredit anyone’s religion. Nor do I have the time as I have two toddlers running around. I simply was pointing out that the belief that “Catholics were Christians before anyone else” is the myth. And a quite self-centered one at that. Or that a Catholic priest is the ONLY method by which to banish demons, is a falsehood. There is no Biblical evidence for that point of view.

    If these poor children are truly afflicted, then they need deliverance. As a believer of Christ, I don’t care what denomination that comes by. As long as they are delivered.

  • Anonymous

    Satan loves to cultivate antipathy and error. Why do so many Protestants HATE Catholics – so VEHEMENTLY opposed? In just a few comments posted below, this is so woefully evident. Moreover, so little about the Catholic faith is actually and properly understood by those who denigrate it. If only they understood the beauty and fullness of what Christ intended for us!

  • Ethan Campbell

    Because the whole Catholic Hierarchy is corrupt

  • Anonymous

    wow. Please read the book of Acts. The Apostle Paul was not catholic. Neither were any of the other Apostles! If I were you I would Just read and believe the Bible over what someone taught you in Catholic school.

  • ForTheTruth

    2 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

    2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

    3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

    4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

    6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

    7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

    8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

    9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,

    10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,

    11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

    12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?

    13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

    14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

    15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

    16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

    17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

    18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

    19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

    20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

    21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

    23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

    24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

    25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

    26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

    27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

    28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

    29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

    30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

    31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

    32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

    33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

    34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

    35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

    36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

    37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

    38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

    40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

    41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

    42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

    43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.

    44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

    45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

    46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

    47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

  • Anonymous

    From whom or whence does Pastor Jim Logan glean his fullness of knowledge? From whom or whence did this prior person receive their knowledge? How is it that his neighbor pastor holds to a different set of theological doctrine yet claims to hold an equal truth as received from the Spirit? Is the Spirit in conflict with himself, or is Logan the only righteous leader…or does doctrine not really matter? So many contradictions. The Catholic Church is a consistent line through history. Doctrine has not wavered. Sounds more like the Spirit of God to me, in my humble observation.

  • Marsha

    Mark 16:17 Jesus said, “And these signs will accompany those who
    have believed; in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak
    with new tongues;” Any Born Again, Spirit Filled Christian who walks in
    faith, has the power to cast out demons. Not because the Christian is a
    perfect person, but because they’ve been endued with power from on
    high. God gave Christians the authority, but sadly to many refuse to
    enter into the battle. God’s people need to begin to step out in faith!

  • Anonymous

    So you hate Catholicism? If your kid’s teacher was a pedophile, would all of education be corrupt?

  • Rex Whitmer

    Actually there were many Christian Churches until Constantine. Previous to Nicaea there were independent assemblies all around the Mediterranean, each claiming to be THE CHURCH. Constantine demanded that they all come together and agree on a common belief. The various bodies were in such disagreement that small wars and murders were committed, but eventually a common context was agreed upon. Eventually there were five main bodies of belief, the smallest being in Rome, and was mostly ignored by the other four. The Roman church being called heretic, began mission work among the Germanic tribes north and west of them. It remained small until Mohamed began his reign of terror through out the Mediterranean borders. All but the Roman branch were virtually wiped out, leaving the Roman church and the Greek church. Actually Constantine professed to be Christian, but continued to worship the sun which is one reason the day Sunday continues as the first day of our week.

  • Patrick Howard

    I want to comment. My name is Phillip Oscar Servant. – MAGIC does not exist. God does exist. God does NOT do MAGIC. – In this world where my eight year old can make a video that shows him flying through the air, (using FREE software for editing/VFX etc.) then I can believe that another kid can figure the way to seem to walk up a wall. – I think that what happened is that the kid is a really good actor. Mom showed him the walk the wall trick, told him to act possessed, (someone check the house for a copy of “The Exorcist”) and scare people into not coming near enough to see the ruse.
    I said that God does exist.
    The problem is that the Christian church does NOT know him. They current leadership of the major denominations are fooled by a lie. That has been passed down from previous generations. The lie is that “GOD IS A MAGICAL BEING”.
    HE is NOT.
    The seven days of creation… – “…a day to the Lord is a thousand years, and a thousand years is a day.” – God’s 7 days of creation were 7 one-thousand year periods, in which he began the processes that would result in what he desired to accomplish that day. These thousand year periods were not connected. THERE WAS MILLIONS OF YEARS BETWEEN THEM. –

    The serpent of EDEN – “On the sixth day god created man…”- “…and caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and took of Adam’s rib.”
    That sixth one-thousand year period was when GOD grew Adam in a scientific – medical – biologically engineered procedure. Then grew Eve in another scientific – medical – biologically engineered procedure from a single DNA molecule of Adam’s rib, – INTO A WORLD THAT WAS POPULATED BY HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND EVOLVED HOMINIDS. Adam was the FIRST man… NOT the first hominid. The serpent was one of these hominids… WITH HIS VOICE-BOX. SAYS “Hey baby, God said you could eat it all.”
    “Eve, seeing that the ‘tree’ was pleasing to the eyes, and desired to make one wise, took the fruit there-of and she did eat. AND took unto her husband with her, and HE DID EAT.”
    The Chariot of Fire – EASY. The event that is described in 2nd Kings tells how Elisha witnessed the ‘whirl-wind’ and Chariot of Fire… He then went bacvk to the campfires and told everyone what he saw. His ENTIRE language had only ONE word for vehicle. He had NO choice, but to use that one word. NO MATTER if he saw a pick-up truck, a Big-Wheel, or Helicopter… The ONLY word he had was “CHARIOT”… So what was the fire? – I’ll give you a hint… It takes 11,000 pounds of thrust to escape the Earth’s gravity. – Figure it for yourselves.
    So… MAGIC does not exist. – That kid is a good actor. Mom is an effects whiz, or maybe just stumbled upon a trick that she taught her son. –
    ONE FINAL: If the devil ( or any demon ) could accomplish this wall-walking trick, they would be doing it all over. ALL the time. In FRONT of cameras. Demons have an agenda. Fortunately on MAN’s WORLD, the only thing that they can actually do, is whisper… otherwise ZERO powers. Unfortunately, sometimes people hear them.

  • Anonymous

    Or read “Out From Darkness” by Ben Alexander, which also tells some of how such evil took over England.

  • Anonymous

    Why is it that these demonic possessions never seem to occur to Atheists? They seem only, rather, to occur to the religious.. and no one ever gets these instances on film. One would think, after almost 100 years of motion picture filming, there would be one credible instance of demonic possession to be found on film. I pose these questions not to criticize, per se, for I indeed also believe there are things out there we have not the knowledge to explain, but almost all the credible human knowledge in existence, that which lifted us from the beastial mud and mire, comes from mankind’s ability to apply reason.

    Why do demons always have low voices? If they are so powerful, why can’t they make themselves sound like Mickey Mouse?

    It seems also they would be much more likely to meet whatever their demonic objectives were if they avoided the obligatory instances of levitation and walking up walls.

    On the flip side, it seems the exorcism solved the problem, so it had to be demonic possession right? If someone came into a hospital complaining they could only turn left.. and was given antibiotics.. and suddenly the problem was cured, would we say it was an infection? Or are their other forces at work? Or maybe the occupying demons still remain but realized they needed to be more subtle from now on.

    I am opened minded enough to welcome the application of scientific theory to instances of demonic possession, so go for it Glenn, investigate.

  • Anonymous

    That’s part of it, but such will not get a non-exorcist halfway through the first exorcism. It is a process, and not simply a [prideful] display of faith that drives out demons. Such is why a ritual process has been developed over time, within the Tradition of the Catholic Church, and is proven to be the ONLY effective method of exorcism. Anything less, while well-meaning, is terribly dangerous and ultimately short of complete.

  • Andrea Loquenzi Holzer

    Catholicism has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity: a no-brainer for everybody who has studied the Bible:
    http://slygames.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/does-the-pope-smoke-dope-nope-but-he-certainly-isnt-a-christian/

  • Anonymous

    I don’t want your links. I want you to make a case. So far, you’ve taken pot shots from behind your barricade…and missed badly.

  • Glenn Zachman

    I suggest that if you are going to do battle with Satan and his fallen angels that you not just say a prayer, but put on the full armor of God. The breastplate of righteousness, the shield of faith. The helmet of salvation and the sword of the word of God. The devil is a very cunning liar that looks for your weakness and tries to use it against you. Fear not, the Lord is with you…

  • Marsha

    I agree with you John. Satan knows his time is short and is doing all he can to take as many people down with him. So many blinded eyes….

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure he’ll love to read that..

  • Anonymous

    LOL, well played. Truly, if you have an open mind, I suggest you read “An Exorcist Tells His Story” by Fr. Gabriel Amorth. Your questions will be answered.

  • Anonymous

    I actually looked it up based on the recommendation of another poster.. or perhaps you.. but I haven’t had time to read it yet.. so this is my merely my uninformed first opinion.. but thank you..

  • Anonymous

    Ironically, “The Exorcist” was loosely based on a true story re a 9 yr old boy (yes, boy) in MD. Though sensationalized, it was surprisingly accurate in much of its depiction.

  • Anonymous

    If you believe in God, then you must know that evil is real, evil is Obama

  • Anonymous

    This should be easy: call in Constantine.

    I won’t pretend to know what’s really going on. I’m not there and, while it’s hard to swallow, I’ll keep an open mind on its veracity. Also, regardless of whether this account is true or not, it’s always good to use the reminder to strengthen your relationship with Christ.

  • mike

    I grew up the son of a Pentecostal minister I’ve witnessed demon possession and exorcism 1stt hand to say that “only” Catholics can exercise demons is a false statement as I have witnessed it my self. Christ said all these things I have done you can do also if you believe. Didn’t say you have to be catholic. I no longer follow that narrow path of Pentecost I have a personal relationship with my savior. You can’t tell me it can’t happen because I’ve SEEN it. God bless you.

  • Anonymous

    Forget about the religion. Read chapter 12 verse 12 in the bible. “For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to
    the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having
    great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.” The Devil is working hard on earth because he knows it’s only a matter of time before Jesus comes again. One day all evil will be destroyed. So I am not the least bit surprised that this house has demons. By the way, I think Obama is the Devil.

  • Anonymous

    Kreeft?

  • Patrick Howard

    Sorry to say… Demon-possession is a years-long process of allowing the whisperers (see post above…) to guide your thoughts into a dark cycle. Jeffrey Dahmer was guided to dark thoughts and ultimately dark actions from early child-hood. The only true cure is to identify where such a person’s thought-process turns toward dark patterns, and help guide their thinking back into normal parameters. That ridiculous ritual is just paganism given Christian names at the council of Nicaea. ooOOOOooooOoOOoOoh.

  • Anonymous

    …and I happen to agree, sadly, that a large part of the Hierarchy IS corrupt. The smoke of Satan has entered the Vatican…

  • ForTheTruth

    Now see, look at that. I agree with you 100%.

  • agadofive.leti

    Praying to Mary is not worship. For Catholics, the term “prayer” is also used in the Old English way (i.e., “I pray thee..). It’s talking to her (because she is alive) and asking her to ask her son on our behalf. We ask our friends and family to pray for us. Why not ask our friends and family, in heaven, to pray for us. Remember the wedding in Cana, where Mary noticed the wine was gone. She told Jesus about it. It was not Jesus’ time, but Mary knew He would do as she asked, so she told the servants, “Do whatever He tells you.” That’s her message for us always, “Do whatever He tells you.” She holds a special place, and deserves to be called, “blessed” by all generations. When Mary visited Elizabeth, Elizabeth said, “Who am I that that mother of my Lord….” She is the mother of God. Mary is also mentioned in Rev 12. Read it in meditate on it. On the cross, Jesus told his apostle, she was his mother. He told his mother, the apostle (us), he is her son. The serpent in Revelations went off to make war on the rest of her offspring (us). God is the only One we worship.

  • Randy Karnes

    For years we had something in the house where I was raised. Very innocuous, footsteps, sounds of boxes moving. Never anything gone or damaged. Once when I was about 19 and home alone, it decided to try to scare me by stomping up the basement steps and rattling the door at the top of the steps. I ran to the door and could hear it rattling but it wasn’t moving, just making the noise it always made when we would rattle it if we got locked downstairs. I yanked it open and confronted whatever it was (appeared to be nothing there). I don’t remember hearing anything there after that. One of us was going to have the crap shocked out of us, and that one was NOT I. I don’t want to mess with the paranormal, but I’m not afraid of it.

  • Anonymous

    Kinda like amintiyville horror in New York . Spelled wrong I am sure but that was base on a true story also .

  • Jennifer Nicholson

    What the what? Yes, my evangelical minister does have authority given to him directly by Jesus Christ, who does not need the assistance of mans hands to do it. Where in scripture does it say the human labeled saints in Heaven can hear prayers and intercede, and why would we need them when we have Jesus as our direct intercessor? What scripture tells us Mary was the most perfect, and how does that demonstrate grace? There have been many successful exorcisms by Protestant pastors. By whose authority do you suggest they were successful?

  • agadofive.leti

    A good book to read regarding this is “A Message of Hope,” by Deborah Lipsky.

  • Donna Salcone Barrett

    The Catholic church honors Mary, it does not worship her.  Jesus and God is all powerful!!!!!!!! Catholics believe this only!!!!Saints and Mary are considered spiritual family that prays for us as intercessory. Evangelicals believe in intercessory prayer from fellow Christians, right? Why not ask our spiritual mother and saints already in the presence of the throne ????

  • eve timmons

    My husband and I
    have dealt with this kind of thing for over 30 years. We used to only see it
    pretty much in Africa but for the last 10-20 years we are seeing it more and
    more in the USA as well as Asia and Europe. My husband wrote a book on
    spiritual warfare back in 91 that exposes a lot of the different occult
    practices, demon passion, etc. and how to deal with them, It’s titled,
    “Mysterious Secrets of the Dark Kingdom.”
    It is in its 3rd printing and available at http://www.ccipublishing.net

  • Anonymous

    I still think it’s fake….

  • eve timmons

    Not exactly………

  • eve timmons

    well said

  • JOE

    did GOD say call no man Father? Did GOD say make no images?

  • Anonymous

    Exorcism may work but who’s to say the demons aren’t moving from house to house when they leave a place that has been exorcised. The hundreds of spirits said to be haunting that house could have been moving for years. Meaning they need to be helped by people who can get them to travel on beyond this life rather than stay in it. Part of helping spirits move on means doing house blessing rituals. Which exorsists don’t seem to be able to do.

  • ForTheTruth

    Thank you.

  • Susan

    Luke 10:19
    Behold, I give unto you
    power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the
    enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. In Christ Name

  • Anonymous

    You are mistaken, not knowing the scriptures nor the power of God. Matt 22:29
    If the earth took that long for God to create, how did the plants survive for 1,000 years until God hung the sun in the heavens the next day? I agree that God is not “magic”. God is the author of the laws of physics and all of creation, as such He is not subject to those laws just as an artist is not subect to the painting he produced but has power over it. God is spirit and eternal, flesh is not and as part of creation flesh is subjec to the laws of physics unless another power interacts with it. Demons are angelic beings, fallen or disobedient ones, and have greater powers than human beings do. They do have the ability to interact with the physical world – Jesus threw them out of people all the time, once He even threw a bunch into a herd of swine.
    We will see a marked increase in this kind of activity in the coming days because soon Satan himself will be thrown to the earth with very little time left to deceive mankind before he is judged by Jesus at His return. As well, the devil’s agents will perform lying signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
    My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Hos 4:6

  • TC Sean Lynch

    I believe in the Spiritual emptiness of our nation, but do not believe in this “christ” B.S. The only way to defeat these sorts of entities is by going back to the Prechristian ways of our ancestors! Some skinny dickless wonder Jewish rabbi who talked to an imaginary friend in his head can/will not save you! Put your faith in Asgard or Olympus! Thor and Mjollnir has kept us safe since the beginning of time!!! Stop believing in a book designed by men to control and extort mankind!!!! Only Odin, The Allfather has the answers you seek! Will you listen??

  • Steven Palivoda

    Those who have had experiences with good spirits and not just the bad ones never need to watch those types of films….because we know it’s real. Hollywood needs to stop getting involved with something that is not of this world.

  • Teresa Porter

    Read up on the seven sons of sceva.

  • John McDaniel

    1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

  • Joan Anderson

    I think that this is a sign of the “end times” that we are living in and that we will see much more demonic activity as we get closer to Jesus’ return! Read your Bible, people! We have basically asked God to remove His Holy Spirit and His hand of protection over our once-blessed nation. This kind of demonic activity occurs in other areas of the world all the time. We are no longer under God’s protection!!

  • Anonymous

    The “houses” that demons look for are not buildings made by man – they are men, women or children. The don’t need to “move on”, they are being cast down out of heaven unto the earth for the time is short. The only place they will move on to is the lake of fire created for the devil and his angels and they want to avoid that as long as possible. Jesus is King over all of creation and one day soon He will return and they will “move on”.

  • John McDaniel

    1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    That is why.

  • Nate diller

    The church can’t dream of being the hands and feet of Christ when it is bickering about denominations. No wonder the church is looked down on. In the comments of an article about the devil working through possession he is secretly doing his part to pull the church apart! Stop arguing about trivial matters!

  • Frank Munshower

    I’m sick of self righteous people putting down the Catholc church. You think you are SO wise. A time is coming when we as Christians will HAVE to stop fighting ach other over stupid little differences. I am Catholic. We DO NOT WORSHIP statues or saints. Jesus Christ IS my savior. I have been baptized, and we renew our baptism at certain times of the year. Are there bad people in the Church? Yes. Are there bad people within ANY church? Yes. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

  • Anonymous

    Well said Marsha.

  • Deb

    If we could see in the spiritual realm it would scare the crap out of us.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe any of this shit. You can tell as many stories as you like. I require proof.

  • Frank Munshower

    Freakin self righteous hater!

  • Anonymous

    Has anyone watched the video? Yeah…….She looks very trustworthy. lol

  • AP

    The demon?

  • Susan

    Luke 10:19
    Behold, I give unto you
    power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the
    enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. In Jesus Christ Name

  • Anonymous

    No offense, but that’s a pretty big “if”.

  • Anonymous

    Sometimes that’s true, people living in places here malevolent spirits are get possessed without the house having problems.The spirits move into people they can take over quickly. But lots of times the places themselves are haunted. Like this house in Indiana. It’s reported that theme are about 200 separate demons inhabiting that house. Spirits no matter if they are good or bad Ned to figure out how to move on from this existence. They can’t move on because they have unfinished business. Especially the evil ones since they stay behind in order to take revenge on whatever and whoever they can. They feel like they’ve been wronged. Maybe not by the people currently living in a haunted place but by society.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t know what to think about this story! But I am looking forward to Glen’s take on it. Spirits seem real to me as I have witnessed them, and to others I know. But since there is no real proof like there is for say “cause and effect” events, they cannot be proved.

  • ron

    i’ll believe it when i see the recording

  • Rob

    vdestefa – if you accept the belief that Christianity’s message comes from the Bible, then you should research for yourself the efforts put forth by the Catholic church to keep people from obtaining the Bible. They wanted the word of God for themselves so that lay people would need to go through the church. Read up on the lives of John Calvin and Martin Luther. It’s an eye-opener. I’m not suggesting it’s the same Catholic church we know today, but it’s very instructive in seeing how churches have attempted to parlay possession of God’s word into power over people.

  • Anonymous

    You seem to put a great deal of stock into the ritual process and traditions – much like the pharisees did back in the day. What Marsha quoted is accurate – Jesus sent the 12 out and they had power over the evil spirits and healed the sick in His name see Matt 10, likewise He sent out 70 to do likewise (Luke 10:1-24). You say no “prideful” display of faith drives out demon but you are mistaken not knowing the scriptures nor the power of God. Without faith, it is impossible to please God. If the “exocism” worked in this case, why did the family have to move? To be sure, your post above is a prideful statement, lacking understanding – incomplete if you will.

  • Rob

    Why would a demon go after one who already doesn’t believe in God? It would seem to suit their agenda to go after believers, to separate them from God.

  • Brad Hodge

    Hey, if I were a kid in Obama’s America, looking at what I’ll be on the hook for when I grow up, yeah, I’d be possessed too.

  • Johnathan Read

    The Bible says that when Satan was cast out of Heaven, a third of the Angels followed him. That makes for a lot of Demons. They exist and are among us. Believe it or not.

  • Johnny Constitution

    What I noted in the article was the dearth of video or photographic evidence to back up the claims. It strains credulity that no one had a camera phone handy for any of these occurrences.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder Fawnday, where you got your information on the spirit realm? Clearly not from the bible. Evil spirits are not dead humans, they are angels – fallen angels – and have no need for a roof or shelter. The only place these spirits are “moving on” to is the everlasting punshment that waits for them because they chose to worship Lucifer aka Satan instead of God who created them.
    As for the haunted house, how does anyone know how many “spirits” are there? Did someone ask them? How were they counted? Demons serve the father of all liars – the devil himself – and as such are not to be believed. They roam about the whole earth looking for soemeone to inhabit.
    Jesus had a lot to say about the spirit realm, can I suggest that you read what He said? There is no greater authority.

  • Steve Smeltz

    A couple things about demons: 1. don’t “play” with them. They don’t haunt houses, they haunt people. 2. Turning to mediums, spirit guides, and the like only makes them happy. Sure they’ll play around with you but it’s all to keep you coming back to the occult. 3. Demons can’t fight the power of Christ. No need for salt, crosses, holy water, or endless chanting. If the demon won’t come out it is of the kind that Jesus spoke of, ‘only with prayer and fasting.’ What kinds are these? I don’t know, I haven’t met one, and I don’t want to. Basically, it’s not a game. If you’re not going in there seriously stay out, you’re playing with literal fire.

  • OTIC

    Read Mark 16:17-18. If you are a believer you have been given the authority to do all these things by Jesus. A true Christian can not be possessed but can be oppressed. Read a book by Don Dickerson called “When Pigs Move In”. This is an excellent book that explains how the enemy works and how to be set free. God bless

  • BigD

    The family should get those guys from the show Ghost hunters! Maybe they can talk with demon spirits also!!!

  • http://www.speakthewordnow.com/ Karen Rose

    Also the harry potter crap. Parents seem to not care what their kids do. The devil is real and demons. Yes you must be born again and filled with the Holy Spirit and Fire.

  • apologetics101

    Read about the Fathers of the Church,( those living in the early years of the Church).

  • Anonymous

    Where are you getting this information? “Catholic priests fear the Devil and his demons.” – what an absurd statement! First of all, The Catholic Church has conducted numerous successful exorcisms, well documented. Secondly, I’d love to see you face a demon-possessed person and have absolutely no fear. Courage isn’t having no fear; courage is facing your fear and doing what has to be done. THAT is what these Catholic Exorcists do.

  • Karen

    there is real power in the name of the Savior. When needed, command the evil entity to depart in the name of J.C.(use His name here) Also, one must realize too that these things don’t happen by mistake. Although one might not be fully aware of the consequence of an action (or choice). These entities can not without permission, enter. We must willingly or inadvertently give them permission. Anything of an evil nature can be a “doorway” so to speak. Watching, reading, listening to, participating in any “evil” will be an invitation. How can one know what is good and what is evil? First, by understanding that each of us was given “the light of Christ” when we were born into this life…most know this as “conscience”. Listening to and following your conscience will most often be a protection for you. For those who have made “bad or “wrong” choices for a long time may have deadened the conscience. But a reversal can be had by changing the choices one makes, repenting (recognizing the wrong action, and doing it no more) of past mistakes and choosing to follow a path of faith…aka scripture study, prayer, obedience to new good knowledge, etc.

    I know of what I speak. I have suffered a possession, but have since been released. And mine was one of an inadvertent permission given. I read a series of books which most today find harmless, but were actually released to the world with a “curse” attached. I no longer have those books or movies in my home. And I cautiously and carefully choose what is allowed in my home, in my mind, etc. I use my conscience and “gut” feeling. (I know this “gut feeling” to be the Holy Spirit, who’s job it is to always testify of truth. I have developed a relationship with Him and obey those “promptings” (feelings). As always, I hope this helps.

  • Anonymous

    I am Free Methodist/Pentecostal and sometimes wish to convert to Catholicism. Why? To prove the point that we need to get rid of the small details that separate us. We need to come together as a WHOLE body of believers. Quite frankly, Catholics have done a lot more in going against the evils of society – satanism, abortion, homosexuality, christian persecution, etc. I support Catholics and the Pope. Without you, this world would be even worse off.

  • Jim

    No there is no power in the name of Christ, Christ is just a mantle meaning “the anointed” There is only power in the name of Jesus or Yeshua but both work and all knees will bow to it , willingly or made to with a iron rod to the back of their legs, demons have no power then what people give them. This is mostly given by what people “say” then do. Casting demons out should also not be taken so lightly because if it is not done right and the person that was cleansed was not protected by the covenant they have with Jesus that demon can come back with many more to take back its old home, they have no power till you let them then you need to fight them but Jesus has sent all Christians to heal the sick and cast out demons, not just priest and a only one church, that is a lie of satan to hold ppl back from doing what Jesus said to do. Pray for this family that God sends someone into their lives to free them and show them truly what power they have in Jesus.

  • Jerry Brady

    All you morons can believe anything you want, but I personally find it difficult to take someone painted up like a peacock too seriously!!!

  • Anonymous

    I’m taking this from the King James Version so you won’t imply it’s “Catholic” and therefore wrong:

    REVELATION 8:4And the smoke of the incense,which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand…

    Have you actually read the bible?

  • Anonymous

    A lot of the way I have information about the spirit realm is by personal experience. I’m an empath. I’ve also dealt with one and successfully gotten rid of it.

  • agadofive.leti

    Yes he is. Why do we ask our friends and family, here on earth, to pray for us? Because we are all one family- both on earth and in heaven. God was revealed to be “like” a father in the Old Testament. In the New, he is revealed to be Father within the eternal relations of the godhead. Through our mystical union with Christ through baptism, we become sons and daughters of God whereby we can truly call God “Abba”—father (cf. Gal. 4:4-7). We become brothers and sisters of Christ and true sons of Mary (cf. Romans 8:14-17; John 19:27—Rev. 12:17). The concept of “bride” reaches new heights when we speak of the Church as the “bride” of Christ (cf. Eph. 5:24-32). But even more radically, “we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another” (Romans 12:5), whereby we are caught up into the very inner life of God as members of Christ’s body by grace (cf. Eph. 2:5-6), and by virtue of that fact we have been made to be “partakers of the divine nature” as II Peter 1:4 says.

    It is this image of “the Body of Christ” that aids us in understanding how one member of the body can aid another in the communication of the divine life to one another without diminishing the role of “the head.” For example, if I pick up a pen here on my desk would we say “the head,” or “I,” would have had nothing to do with it? “Oh no, your hand did that, Tim, not you!”

    So it is with Christ and his Body. Eph. 1:22-23 goes so far as to say the Church is, “The fullness of him who fills all in all.” Thus, the Church is Christ in this world. This does not take away from Christ’s unique mediation; it establishes that unique mediation. Different members of the Church mediate various graces in accordance with their respective gifts while the whole body functions to bring Christ to the world. Romans 12:4-6 says:

    For as in one body we have many members, and all the members do not have the same function, so we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another. Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us.

    And this radical union with Christ and with the other members of the Body of Christ does not cease at death. Romans 8:35-38 tells us, among other things, “neither death nor life… shall be able to separate us from the love of Christ.” Thus, those alive on earth can still benefit from—they are still connected to—the other members of the Body of Christ in heaven.

    Is Christ our one, true mediator? Absolutely! And it is this same Christ who has chosen to use his Body to mediate God’s grace to the world in and through him.

  • agadofive.leti

    Why do we ask our friends and family, here on earth, to pray for us? Because we are all one family- both on earth and in heaven. God was revealed to be “like” a father in the Old Testament. In the New, he is revealed to be Father within the eternal relations of the godhead. Through our mystical union with Christ through baptism, we become sons and daughters of God whereby we can truly call God “Abba”—father (cf. Gal. 4:4-7). We become brothers and sisters of Christ and true sons of Mary (cf. Romans 8:14-17; John 19:27—Rev. 12:17). The concept of “bride” reaches new heights when we speak of the Church as the “bride” of Christ (cf. Eph. 5:24-32). But even more radically, “we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another” (Romans 12:5), whereby we are caught up into the very inner life of God as members of Christ’s body by grace (cf. Eph. 2:5-6), and by virtue of that fact we have been made to be “partakers of the divine nature” as II Peter 1:4 says.

    It is this image of “the Body of Christ” that aids us in understanding how one member of the body can aid another in the communication of the divine life to one another without diminishing the role of “the head.” For example, if I pick up a pen here on my desk would we say “the head,” or “I,” would have had nothing to do with it? “Oh no, your hand did that, Tim, not you!”

    So it is with Christ and his Body. Eph. 1:22-23 goes so far as to say the Church is, “The fullness of him who fills all in all.” Thus, the Church is Christ in this world. This does not take away from Christ’s unique mediation; it establishes that unique mediation. Different members of the Church mediate various graces in accordance with their respective gifts while the whole body functions to bring Christ to the world. Romans 12:4-6 says:

    For as in one body we have many members, and all the members do not have the same function, so we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another. Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us.

    And this radical union with Christ and with the other members of the Body of Christ does not cease at death. Romans 8:35-38 tells us, among other things, “neither death nor life… shall be able to separate us from the love of Christ.” Thus, those alive on earth can still benefit from—they are still connected to—the other members of the Body of Christ in heaven.

    Is Christ our one, true mediator? Absolutely! And it is this same Christ who has chosen to use his Body to mediate God’s grace to the world in and through him.

  • ds

    you gotta.know Jesus Christ and be filled with the holy sourit to discern and cast those dwmons out. I say our political leafers are posessed with devils. just look at odummer, his wife. .. and Nancy Pelosi. .. they are power hungry and they love money. They want to declare war on Christians and this Christian natiin. just my opinion.

  • agadofive.leti

    Is Christ our one, true mediator? Absolutely! And it is this same Christ who has chosen to use his Body to mediate God’s grace to the world in and through him.

  • agadofive.leti

    Is Christ our one, true mediator? Absolutely! And it is this same Christ who has chosen to use his Body to mediate God’s grace to the world in and through him. This is why we pray for our family and friends also.

  • Anonymous

    Do you believe in intercessory prayer? Do you ask people to pray for you, to INTERCEDE for you with our Lord? I would hope so. Are they “mediators”? No. They are intercessors. Mary wants nothing more than to intercede for us to her Son, our Lord Jesus Christ.

    No one loved Mary more than Jesus did, and He honored her. She was the ark of the new covenant. She was called “full of Grace” by the Archangel Gabriel – what human could possibly be full of God’s grace? Only one who was set apart from all other humanity.

  • Anonymous

    Remembering, of course, that only Christians have the right or ability to use the Name of Jesus for this or any reason without being guilty of blasphemy.

  • Guest

    Revelation 8 4 And the smoke of the incense,which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand.

    The words “mediator” and “intercessor” are two completely different words. You would have some credibility if you would learn the meaning of words.

  • Anonymous

    Revelation 8:4

    “And the smoke of the incense,which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand.”

    The words “mediator” and “intercessor” are two completely different words. You would have some credibility if you would learn the meaning of words.

  • agadofive.leti

    “When Catholics pray to the saints in heaven they are sometimes accused of equating them with God. This of course is not true. This misconception stems in part from a misunderstanding of what it means to pray. When we pray to God we are doing one or both of two things; we ask Him to act in our behalf and / or we worship Him. When we pray to the saints we are asking them to pray for and with us. We are not worshiping them. Worship is due to God alone.

    But why ask the saints for anything when we can ask God? Doesn’t the Bible tell us that we have but one Mediator between God and man and that is “Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5)? That’s true, but let’s thinks about that for a moment. If this prohibits the intercession of the saints in heaven it also prohibits the intercession of the saints on earth. And we know that isn’t true, so what does Paul really mean? If we read the verse in context the meaning becomes clear. Let’s see what happens when we read verses 1-6:

    First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way. This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all, the testimony to which was borne at the proper time (1 Timothy 2:1-6).

    So Paul begins by asking for intercessory prayers for all men. He then says that it is good and acceptable to God because He desires all men to be saved. Paul sees intercessory prayer as a way to bring men to Christ and ultimately to salvation. Once on the subject of salvation Paul expands on it by explaining how it was made possible in the first place. He does this by referring to Jesus’ unique act of mediation: “there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all.”

    Hebrew 9:15 makes this last point even clearer. It says that Jesus “is the Mediator of a new covenant.” When the saints in heaven pray for us they are no more mediating a new covenant than we are when we pray for each other. So what is the lesson from this passage in 1 Timothy?

    1. Pray for men that they might be saved.
    2. Salvation comes from Jesus’ unique mediation.
    3. Jesus’ unique mediation consists of His death on the cross.

    There is no condemnation here of intercessory prayer. In fact you can plainly see that it is encouraged. The only question one might have at this point is can the saints in heaven intercede for us? Scripture indicates that they can. We know that “the prayer of a righteous person has great power” (James 5:16). Who could be more righteous or pray more fervently than those already perfected and in the Lord’s presence? We know that they care for us, “There will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents” (Luke 15:7). And finally we see that they present our prayers along with their own to Jesus: “The four living creatures and the twenty four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints” (Revelation 5:8). Also, “And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer, and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne. And the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God” (Revelation 8:3-4). Note that incense represents our prayers, and that the angels and elders in heaven present our prayers to God.

    Let’s look at another example. In Matthew 18:10 we read: “See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I tell you that in heaven their angels always behold the face of my Father who is in heaven.” What do you suppose that the little ones’ angels would be doing on their behalf before God? Praying for them is the only logical answer.

    Demonstrating early Christian belief, Origen wrote in the year 233, “But not the High Priest [Christ] alone prays for those who pray sincerely, but also the angels…as also the souls of the saints who have already fallen asleep” (On Prayer 11).”

  • agadofive.leti

    “When Catholics pray to the saints in heaven they are sometimes accused of equating them with God. This of course is not true. This misconception stems in part from a misunderstanding of what it means to pray. When we pray to God we are doing one or both of two things; we ask Him to act in our behalf and / or we worship Him. When we pray to the saints we are asking them to pray for and with us. We are not worshiping them. Worship is due to God alone.

    But why ask the saints for anything when we can ask God? Doesn’t the Bible tell us that we have but one Mediator between God and man and that is “Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5)? That’s true, but let’s thinks about that for a moment. If this prohibits the intercession of the saints in heaven it also prohibits the intercession of the saints on earth. And we know that isn’t true, so what does Paul really mean? If we read the verse in context the meaning becomes clear. Let’s see what happens when we read verses 1-6:

    First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way. This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all, the testimony to which was borne at the proper time (1 Timothy 2:1-6).

    So Paul begins by asking for intercessory prayers for all men. He then says that it is good and acceptable to God because He desires all men to be saved. Paul sees intercessory prayer as a way to bring men to Christ and ultimately to salvation. Once on the subject of salvation Paul expands on it by explaining how it was made possible in the first place. He does this by referring to Jesus’ unique act of mediation: “there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all.”

    Hebrew 9:15 makes this last point even clearer. It says that Jesus “is the Mediator of a new covenant.” When the saints in heaven pray for us they are no more mediating a new covenant than we are when we pray for each other. So what is the lesson from this passage in 1 Timothy?

    1. Pray for men that they might be saved.
    2. Salvation comes from Jesus’ unique mediation.
    3. Jesus’ unique mediation consists of His death on the cross.

    There is no condemnation here of intercessory prayer. In fact you can plainly see that it is encouraged. The only question one might have at this point is can the saints in heaven intercede for us? Scripture indicates that they can. We know that “the prayer of a righteous person has great power” (James 5:16). Who could be more righteous or pray more fervently than those already perfected and in the Lord’s presence? We know that they care for us, “There will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents” (Luke 15:7). And finally we see that they present our prayers along with their own to Jesus: “The four living creatures and the twenty four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints” (Revelation 5:8). Also, “And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer, and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne. And the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God” (Revelation 8:3-4). Note that incense represents our prayers, and that the angels and elders in heaven present our prayers to God.

    Let’s look at another example. In Matthew 18:10 we read: “See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I tell you that in heaven their angels always behold the face of my Father who is in heaven.” What do you suppose that the little ones’ angels would be doing on their behalf before God? Praying for them is the only logical answer.”

  • agadofive.leti

    :-) I’ve learned when people start trying to talk down to or put down, it’s because they are standing on shaky ground. I know what the words mean. God bless.

  • Anonymous

    Blue, I am a Catholic convert after being Protestant my whole life. I have found, not the ONLY church with truth, but the One, Holy, Catholic & Apostolic Church that contains the FULLNESS of truth. I heartily support you and encourage you to continue to pursue this path – it is obvious that your motivation is pure and well thought out. Does anyone really believe that when Jesus established His Church on earth, he meant for it to be fractured into FORTY THOUSAND different denominations? Why would the One True God desire that His Truth be convoluted into 40,000 different interpretations? He wouldn’t, which is why He, through His Son Jesus, built His one true church upon Peter, and by extension, the Apostles, and gave them The Great Commission, to go out and make disciples of all nations. From them the Catholic Church arose, and from no other. It wasn’t until 1500 years later that Luther broke away, and from that came tens of thousands more denominations, all interpreting God’s word in their own ways. God would want that? What kind of God would want that?

  • Donna Salcone Barrett

    Mary is not a mediator as much as one would ask a fellow christian to pray for their intentions in intercessory prayer. Then fellow Christians do not support intercessory prayer?

  • Stephen Bogan

    Possibly because the Catholic church reinstated a priesthood, complete with confessionals and ritualistic prayers. If animal sacrifices were allowed, they’d probably go back to them too. Jesus hung on the cross to do away with a priesthood. He became our high priest, our intercessor to God. When he died, the Bible says that the veil that separated man from God in the temple rent in two. This was a testimony to the fact that, in Christ’s sacrifice for mankind, man’s direct access to God had been restored. No longer are we to look to a priest for confessions, but to God. The Catholic church, by reinstating the priesthood, desires to take the place of Christ, which is blasphemy. They also arrogantly claim sole authority of Christianity, as if God cannot work with people outside of their petty rituals.

  • Anonymous

    “… the Apostle Paul was not Catholic.”

    This is the epitome of ignorance, and why there is so much misinformation about the Catholic Church. The word “catholic” means “universal” – meaning, it was established for all Christians. The Church, the Catholic Church, came FROM Jesus, handed on to the Apostles, so of COURSE they didn’t call themselves “Catholic” yet. They WERE the beginning of the One, Holy, Catholic & Apostolic Church – i.e. The Catholic Church.

  • Anonymous

    Were is the video proof of what they are claiming? How come no one ever thinks to video stuff like tis?

  • Mary Larsen

    Those things that you speak of have been spewed by the southern Baptist for years. I have been catholic all my life and we do not and have not ever prayed to statues, priests do not forgive sins, and we do not pray to saints to help us. The truth is that God works through priests to forgive our sins in confession. Catholics ask saints to intercede on our behalf to God to help us, we do not believe that they have any power of their own to help us. I too get so tired of defending the catholic religion there is nothing wrong with it. The catholic church on the other hand has a lot of problems(pedophilia for one and priests and nuns having to take a vow of celibacy is another.

  • Anonymous

    “… the whole Catholic Hierarchy is corrupt.”

    That, sir, is a damnable lie, and utterly absurd to boot.

  • Stephen Bogan

    That is a horrible misinterpretation of scriptures. This passage is not referring to dead people that the Catholics have esteemed as saints! It refers to the LIVING Christians, those of us who are living, breathing,and yes, even praying. dead human people cannot pray, no matter how much “power” the Catholic church attributes them. the bible definition is very different.

    Saint in the New Testament is translated from the Greek word hagioi, which is related to the Greek hagios—holy (New Bible Dictionary, second edition, pp. 486-487).

    God is holy (1 Peter 1:15-16 [15] But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
    [16] Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

    See All…) and commands us to become holy as He is. He is the ultimate example and source of holiness. Holiness includes both the idea of being separated for a special purpose and being pure and right—acting and thinking like God.

    So God calls all members of His Church to be holy—literally, to be saints. Consider 1 Corinthians 1:2Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our LORD, both theirs and ours:
    See All…, for example, which proves this beyond dispute: “To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours.”

    Sanctified can be translated as “set apart” (Jewish New Testament), or as the Amplified Bible expands it, “to those consecrated and purified and made holy.” All members of the Church of God are called to be “saints,” or God’s “own holy people” (New Living Translation). The many problems Paul describes in the Church of God in Corinth show that the brethren were far from achieving the goal of holiness, but that is what they were called and aiming for.

    If you are a Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ with the Holy Spirit, then by biblical definition you are a saint.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly what is your point? The prayers are from the saints, not to them. What Jennifer posted is accurate – Jesus taught us to pray directly to the Father, no-one else. He also said to call no man on earth father because we have one Father in heaven. Her questions were perfectly reasonable, perhpas you should do some reading.

  • Anonymous

    I actually believe only a small fraction of the Hierarchy is corrupt. Remember what Jesus said about His Church: “The gates of Hell will not prevail against it.” There will always be infiltration by satan. One of the Saints once said “there are more demons on the walls of a monastery than the walls of a brothel” because satan knows he doesn’t have to put a lot of effort into corrupting prostitutes and their customers. It’s a whole lot harder to corrupt men of God, and he pulls out all the stops. Sadly, he is successful sometimes. The liberal priests come to mind.

  • Anonymous

    What do you suppose the Saints are praying for? Why would Saints need to pray? Perhaps you should do some thinking.

  • Susan Strong Terry

    Wasn’t Jesus, a Jew, the first Christian ?!?!
    The question is not who is first…..but who will be one at all!
    No one will enter the Kingdom just by claiming they were first….

  • Anonymous

    FTT, how do you expect to know Catholic history when drinking from a tainted font? Protestants cannot teach Catholicism any more than they care to truly know the roots from which their own originators (Luther et al) defected. The bible, which you so readily quote, was ultimately codified in the CATHOLIC Council of Hippo in 398 (St. Augustine et al). From what institution do you believe the bible was written, borne forth, and protected for millennia? What did Christians do before they could readily access a bible, ex, prior to mass print? By the same logic, why do you expect that in the span of time since Luther’s Revolution, prior to which Catholicism was the world’s Christianity, we now have more than 40000 denominations and growing? Without the glue of centrality, gifted by Christ to mankind thru Peter (keys to the kingdom etc), men will run rampant with their own self-styled, prideful exegeses, cropping up new “churches” like Starbucks. And they all contradict. Even on the most basic level, there is no common sense upon which someone might righteously argue that Christ intended for splinters and factions, as spawned by individualized Scripture Scholars such as you.
    Follow the trail back through history. Watch how the branches, followed backwards, all stemmed from apostasy from the Catholic Church.
    One can hardly be a sincere student of Church History and remain anti-Catholic. And why are Protestants so virulently, even hatefully, anti-Catholic?

  • Anonymous

    agadofive – this post was in error, and I actually deleted it, but for some reason, it posted anyway showing “guest.” I apologize, you were not the intended recipient.

  • Anonymous

    Follow that trail, my friend. Once you meet the Eucharistic Christ, we can mourn together the collective sadness of man’s resistance to this supreme gift. John Ch 6…

  • Anonymous

    funny, I just wrote that same argument to another dissenter just a bit above this conversation. Well spoken, brother Catholic!

  • Anonymous

    Although I agree that Obama seems to have embraced evil, he’s NOTHING compared to who is directing him.

  • Donna Salcone Barrett

    Some were raised with with what I call generational prejudice towards or against Catholics and the cycle continues……..ignorance is bliss. What many Protestants and reformants do not know is that they are all breakaways from the Catholic church (schismatics) with 40,000 sects and growing. Let’s ask the real question. Why are there so many sects.????? There is NO authority in their interpretations of scripture. So when there is a disagreement they settle it by leaving and creating a new one.

  • Stephen Bogan

    Mediator: one that mediates,
    especially one that reconciles differences between disputants

    Intercessor: 1. One who goes between, or intercedes; a
    mediator. (a) One who interposes between parties at variance, with a
    view to reconcile them. (b) One who pleads in behalf of another. Milton.

    Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/intercessor#ixzz2rkSmis00

    sounds like the same thing, according to my research of definitions. I guess Catholicism is used to redefining things to suit their lust for sole “Godly” authority. However, if they were true Christians, they would not partake in praying to dead people (necromancy) or confessing to a priest (idolatry). Prayers should only be directed to Jesus as the ONLY mediator.
    Now before you say that Paul taught intercessory prayer, you need to understand that Pal was making a distinction between pleading to carnal authorities; such as a judge, ruling authority,or law officer; and the act of praying spiritually, such as prayers to God. Prayers are to be directed to Jesus as the mediator. Intercession request are for living people around you. Praying to dead “saints” is not faith, but a form of witchcraft called necromancy, and should not be encouraged, since it can awaken evil spirits in a prson’s life.

  • Anonymous

    There is nothing wrong with empathy, too many people have little or none. That said, experience does not always lead to truth. We see as through a dark glass – sometimes we get it right and sometimes we miss the mark. Sometimes, even though we know in our gut that what we are doing is not right, we do it anyway. How can you be sure that you “dealt with it successfully”? If you were dealing with a demon, it’s prpose was to deceive you into believing a lie. They are seducing spirits whose aim is to keep you from the knowledge of the truth. By convincing you that you dealt with it, it may well have just been playing with you, stringing you along thinking you had power in and understanding of the spirit world.
    Life is not to be lived without spiritual experience but we need to test the sprits to know if they are truthfull or not. Experience alone is not sufficient to discern the spirits, knowledge must also play a part and wisdom must be exercised in our dealings with angels. Again, I humbly suggest you do some homework – the bible is the source.

  • Anonymous

    Rob, what year was the printing press invented? Do you think that may have a little something to do with why the Church was the only holder of printed scripture? It was a very arduous process, and did not lend itself to mass-printing….

  • Anonymous

    Your approach is entirely cart before horse, and you presume too much about your own knowledge of Catholicism. I’m not being rude – just forthright. Christ’s church has always been universal. It did not adopt the term “Catholic” until it became necessary to distinguish from heretical sects. Believe it or not, Paul was adherent to the bishop of Rome, Peter (the first Pope). He didn’t call himself Catholic, but he would have a few hundred years later when the term became necessary. Further, scripture did not exist outside of the Church which ultimately discerned, Magisterially, which Books were truly the inspired Word of God. This occurred in 398 at the Catholic Council of Hippo, not a loose gathering of elders, leaders, and concerned citizens. Such is the structure, and has always been, commensurate with the demands of each age. Moreover, the Advocate which Christ promised just before the Ascension – His Spirit – remains with the Church to this day (the Catholic Church – Christ’s Church), guarding dogma and doctrine from the gates of Hell, and despite men’s best efforts to destroy it (from within and beyond the Vatican itself).
    Can you truly conclude that Christ suffered death to free us from sin, then left us to our own, individualistic devices to interpret Scripture independently, that is, if someone were ever to happen to combine the disparate writings from a select group of contemporaneous authors. Honestly, think that through for a moment and then let’s talk about Acts.

  • Anonymous

    Did you know William Peter Blatty (the author) is spear-heading an effort to get the liberal Jesuit priests – the ones who are advocating for same-sex marriage, et al – excommunicated? I’m with him.

  • Anonymous

    and then they all separated and started their own churches, each interpreting events differently, eventually leading to 40000 denominations? er, no.

  • Anonymous

    How far afterward did you happen to track the life and lifestyle of Satan’s earthly host? More likely, despite good intentions, the minions returned seven-fold.

  • Anonymous

    It is worse than you hope, but the Spirit will ultimately protect, and the gates will not prevail, as you’ve stated. Read Malachi Martin’s Windswept House and The Devil’s Final Battle by Fr. Paul Kramer for a taste of the realities of infiltration. We’re promised that the Catholic Church will win, and that is true, but we are not assured of any shape, form, or ultimate size of the Catholic Church that survives the final siege.

  • Anonymous

    The One, True, Catholic and Apostolic Church will always have virulent detractors, and for obvious reasons. What kind of God would intend for His Church to be fractured into 40,000 different factions, all interpreting His word in different ways? Not the God of the Bible, the Bible which, as you so eloquently pointed out, was compiled and codified by none other than the O, T, C & A (Catholic) Church.

  • Anonymous

    Sister Catholic – but thank you. :) I am very much enjoying your posts here this evening, and learning from you.

  • Anonymous

    ;)

  • Ryan D

    Viral advertising for a movie most likely.

  • Anonymous

    Not to imply it is okay, in ANY way shape or form, but pedophilia is rampant among protestant denominations, and is even more rampant in public schools, but people never bring that up, do they? No, somehow the relatively small number of priests (in comparison to the number of priests in the world) who succumbed to evil and molested children are the only ones who are ever blamed or spot-lighted. Did the Catholic Church point the finger or blame anyone else? No, they implemented iron-clad programs to protect children from this abomination. True, for a period of years, some very misguided Bishops tried to sweep it under the rug, but once the Vatican took the bull by the horns, the Church pulled out all the stops to prevent this from ever happening again (the Protecting God’s Children program). What programs have the Protestant denominations implemented to prevent this from happening? Just thinking out loud, sorry.

  • Anonymous

    I apologize – I will try much harder to attain “completeness” in these ensuing few sentences. You seem quite confident in your lack of regard for ritual process and Tradition, yet by what authority do you deign to throw aside what Christ intended and his Spirit has perpetuated through the Catholic Church for 2000 years? Christ did not send them out without context, nor without instruction, any more than he expected each of them to found their own personalized faction. He DID, however, send the Advocate to guide the men leading His Church, within the construct of Tradition (the outer shell, if you will), and with the aid of Scripture, which Tradition has tidily bundled, interpreted, and kept doctrinally safe, unwaveringly, in the face of Hell’s best efforts, for all of these centuries. Tradition is the way of Christ’s Church on Earth. Outside of it, we find only endless friction, faction, and splintering. If you and I are both Protestant, and we disagree on the exegesis of Luke 10:1-24, and we go off to each hang our own shingle on a shiny new Protestant church, this would be acceptable in the protestant realm, because we’d both have been led by the Spirit, right? Hmm. Doesn’t sound very Godly to me, or even commonsensical, for that matter. Your approach is cavalier and pompous…even hateful, I perceive. Why such antipathy toward the Catholic Church?
    As for the family in this story, wouldn’t YOU move after that ordeal?

  • Anonymous

    Nice! Don’t read it at bedtime – it’s all too real to read in the dark. In any case, unless we know the enemy, we can’t sufficiently hold an edge in the battle. Every little bit helps, and this book is a good piece of equipment in that effort. Enjoy!

  • Anonymous

    Dualism…heresy.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed, DSB!

  • John

    The name Catholic, which means universal,or “katholicos” was first used in he year 107, long before Constantine.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn: Get your friend Penn Jillette on the phone and discuss it with him before you get involved. He is a magician and capable of seeing through human tricks. He also knows the history of magic and such occurrences were often debunked in the past by magicians. It also helps that he is an atheist and will not be influenced by the superstitious beliefs of those involved. On the O’Reilly show, two of the “Legal Women” were both convinced when it was discovered that a psychic had “sensed” 200 demons in the house. Penn Jillette will see through that nonsense and not be influenced by it. He can help you see what is really happening. The child did not “walk backwards up a wall” by himself. He was supported by an adult and any one of my acrobatic “Wiz Kids” can do the same without being possessed. Go to the local school and see a gym teacher who teaches acrobatics and flipping and he’ll probably show you kids who can do the same thing. The big question is why would the kids be doing these things; the answer is in what has been happening to them in that home- not from demons but from regular adult humans. Please help them get to a place where they can safely be normal children again.

  • Anonymous

    YES. Apparently the Holy Spirit contradicts itself often. Otherwise, how would the 40,000 Protestant denominations all be following Him?

  • John Graham

    So are you a materialist?

  • Anonymous

    Rob, I believe that your intentions are sincere, but you could not be any less correct in your grasp of historical sequence and accuracy. I’ll keep this simple. If Luther and Calvin were right and the Catholic Church preceding them was wrong, Christ was WAAAAY off in setting up a direct lineage of leadership – about 1500 years off, in fact. It makes no sense at all that Christ would promise his Advocate to succeed him in leading men on earth, only to wait 1500 years before delivering truth and leadership.

  • Anonymous

    I did too. I agree.

  • Anonymous

    Did not know, but I back him 1000%

  • Anonymous

    …for this generation there will be no sign…

  • Anonymous

    How do you know that exorcists have not been successful? Have you tracked even one case, specifically? Thousands of well-documented cases are recorded of successful exorcism. Further, these are not just “spirits” trapped between worlds. If such were the case, Exorcism would be useless. Dealing with demonic activity – a different matter entirely!

  • Bonnie Cowan

    Your on the right tract in life my friend,what more can be siad

  • Anonymous

    NW, I agree with you regarding the obvious, but there are scripts documented of actual Exorcisms during which the Priest (yes, Catholic Priest) asks the demon certain questions, such as name, how many, etc. In this way, it is possible to know numbers and other info. Not to trifle with, in any case, as a matter of mere curiosity, but only toward knowing the enemy sufficiently for further siege. Yes, they also lie…constantly, so we cannot expect these answers to always be truthful. Discernment is always in demand. In any case, desperate to avoid an early eternity in Hell, the minions would sooner inhabit a herd of swing for a few fleeting minutes to stave off the inevitable…

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. How does a Protestant reconcile that inconvenient factoid? The “protest” has never ended, and in fact has intensified against even its own origins!

  • Anonymous

    This is not about me. I care about Glenn Beck and I am warning him not to be taken in by all the hype over this story. If you must know, I am a magician and I work with a group of kids who juggle, ride unicycles and perform the most daring acrobatics… like seeming to walk backwards up a wall and flip over the person helping them to get back to the floor. Glenn said it wasn’t possible, but I am asking him not to call it a “moonwalk.” There must have been acrobats in his “Man In The Moon” special show that can tell him or show him how it was done.

  • Anonymous

    Geez, man, why such vehemence toward Catholicism? What is your impetus? Your animus? Before you embark on a scourging tirade, please first gather your weapons with sincerity, at the very least. If you had, in fact, you would most certainly know that all above premises are incorrect regarding Catholic teaching and theology. I’m serious. You are absolutely incorrect in your understanding of Catholic theology regarding topics above – redefinition, lust for authority, praying to the dead, confessing to a priest. I can only surmise that you do not really wish to know what we believe, preferring instead to pontificate from your self-styled stump of ill-advised vitriol. And regarding your particular interpretation of Paul’s words, from whence did you gather your authority to convey said interpretation as truth and fact? What if I were also non-Catholic and I happened to disagree with your interpretation? Would we both be right simply because we both opposed the apostate Babylonian Catholic? What is YOUR source of truth? Personalized inspiration from the Spirit? Such is why your brethren have spawned more than 40000 churches and growing steadily – everyone is proud of his own nifty interpretations. Yikes!

  • Anonymous

    While I understand the sentiment of your statement, I can’t agree with it. If what you said was true, then no one who cannot understand the Bible (folks with low IQ or mentally handicapped people for example) would be banned from entering Heaven. I simply can’t buy that. People who accept Jesus into their hearts – whether or not they possess the intellectual capacity to comprehend the Bible – will be welcomed into Heaven.

  • Anonymous

    agad, you work for Catholic Answers, don’t you :)

  • Anonymous

    The Church was started in Matthew 16:18 when Jesus said to Peter “you are Peter and upon this rock, I will build My Church”. That Church became known as the Catholic Church a few centuries later but Peter was the first Pope. There is an unbroken succession of Popes from Peter to Francis today. And, since Jesus started His Church, the folks in Antioch who were called Christians were some of the first Catholics.

  • Anonymous

    SST, I don’t follow, perhaps simply because your message does not seem to apply, at all, to my statement. I’m not talking about primacy by precedent, but as a matter of Divine establishment and Providential intention, and in accord with an undying legacy that had, indeed, definitive beginnings.

  • Anonymous

    Not as much interested in the whole Catholic/non-Catholic debate going on here as I believe that if we love Jesus, serve Jesus and accept His divine forgiveness for our sins, recognize his death for us and our hope lies with Him, then that makes us all Christian, regardless (or in spite of) what man-made religious classifications would have us believe. I just have a simple question. I notice (being Episcopalian) that we say the whole Lord’s prayer. All of it. Yet when I attended my mother in law’s Catholic church service, I noticed that the people stopped short of the end of the prayer while the priest finished it up. I think I surprised my m.i.l. as I finished saying the whole thing. I meant no disrespect, just didn’t realize they didn’t say the whole prayer. Someone want to tell my why that is? Just really curious and my m.i.l. said she didn’t know, she just knew when to stop and say the rest in her head.

  • Anonymous

    What is wrong with the vow of celibacy, Mary? Jesus Himself said “Not all men can receive this saying, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to receive this, let him receive it.” (Matt 19).

  • Mary Smith

    demons do not normally possess young children. this could be the rare case in a million but chances are it is not. i have been a paranormal investigator and taught be the godfather of ghosts hunting / psychics himself.

  • Anonymous

    So, MS, you are telling us that you have an “insider’s knowledge” of the demonic, right? I would agree. You most likely have just that.

  • Anonymous

    This is a delicate subject but, if I may, I would like to add something here.

    I read awhile ago about what actually happened in some of the diocese where the abuse took place. I was surprised somewhat when the author of the article (and, no, I cannot verify that what s/he said was accurate) claimed that the Bishops sought council from police and psychiatrists and were informed that the best solution was to move the offending Priests to other places where they may not continue what they were doing. According to the author, this was considered at the time (remember that this is up to 60 years ago) to be the best, most effective plan of action.

    So, the Bishops were not simply sweeping the problem under the rug. They sought and obtained from the best minds available advice on what the best and most appropriate solution to the problem was. By today’s standards, they failed miserably, but they did try.

  • Anonymous

    The one question i do have, is why they havent taken any pictures of any of this ? I mean, if this has been going on for a while i would think there would have been a few opportunities to do so ?

  • Anonymous

    But, there was only one set of Apostles and Jesus Himself made Peter the earthly head of His Church.

  • Anonymous

    wait for it, wait for it….there it was! For the kingdom and the power and glory are yours, now and forever” We do, in fact, recite this segment, but not as part of the Our Father “proper”. It is understood that this was a later addition to Christ’s teaching of the prayer, and while not antithetical, not part of the original prayer.

  • Anonymous

    All of the Apostles were Catholic. They just hadn’t chosen to use the word “Catholic” yet. Peter was the head of the Church – a evidenced in Acts – and he was made the head of the Church by Jesus (Matt 16:18). St. Paul was also Catholic. He was a convert from Judaism (like virtually all Catholics of the time, including Mary), but he was Catholic.

  • Anonymous

    The purpose of the prayers and requests is not the point. The point is who the prayers are directed to. Paul explains that all who believe are called saints and that we should pray without ceasing. We pray while we are here in this flesh having the breath of life in us. We pray silently, out loud, in private, in groups, in our own tounge or in the spirit and we listen, or at least we should be listening – communication should be bilateral. When we are with God we will know as we are known and we will be able to talk to Him face to face. What need of “prayer” will we have then? Talking to dead men or women is a waste of breath and time when we can talk directly to the Ancient of Days Himself because our life is hid with God in Christ Jesus.

  • Anonymous

    Also, Deb, there is a grave problem with Indifferentism, which manifests as a child of the ever-dangerous Relativism. God is absolute, afterall, and Christ would not have established a self-contradicting trajectory through which we are to pursue salvation. At some point, diametrical opposition leaves someone right and the other wrong when it comes to Catholic v Protestant, for instance. Therefore, and keeping in mind that God is Absolute and NOT Relative, is it sufficient to say that it’s ultimately OK for us to “not care” what Christ actually intended, by settling for one as whimsically as the other?

  • Anonymous

    How do you know there are no pictures?

  • Anonymous

    Aahhh, refreshing! ;)

  • Anonymous

    In addition to what vdestfa said, the Catholic Church is not a “man-made religious classification” as you put it. In Matt 16:18, Jesus created the Catholic Church with Peter as its earthly head. Jesus said “I will build My Church”. He did not ask Peter to build a Church for Him.

  • Anonymous

    Mary, Mary, quite contrary. You started off strongly enough, but devolved abysmally at the very end. Drill down to the Modernist siege on the Vatican as perpetrated by Communists, Progressives, Liberals, Freemasons, and Satanists, especially toward the approach of Vatican II and aggressively thereafter. You will then understand why those words trickled from your fingertips, as though prompted from a script prepared by unholy hands.

  • Bryan Ketler

    There is only one church: All the true believers in Jesus. If you are IN Him then you are one of His many body parts. No matter what denomination you associate yourself with.

  • Anonymous

    Are you under the misguided impression that we ONLY talk to Saints? Why do ignorant people insist on behaving as authorities? You, sir, are committing the sin of pride, because you speak as an authority when you clearly are anything but. Please don’t continue to spew misinformation. I am a Catholic by the Grace of God, and I know how I pray, why I pray, and to whom I pray. I follow the Apostle Paul’s instruction on the matter, as well as that of the Church Jesus established on earth. I’m good, but thanks.

  • Anonymous

    “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it” (Matt. 16:18). This occurred before the Pentecost referred to in your quote.

  • Bryan Ketler

    ” then left us to our own, individualistic devices to interpret Scripture independently,”

    It is The Holy Spirit within us that interprets the Scripture for us.

    We are one in Christ. Regardless of the building you sit in on Sunday, if you are a blood bought, born again child of God and IN the body of Christ you are one with the other parts of the body. That is true unity.

  • Anonymous

    Bert, while this may have been incidentally true, on a wider scale, I fear that such would be the exception to the rule. The most damning of the Vatican’s opponents have made such thorough inroads that these things are not simply “swept under the rug” as a matter of cover up, but rather celebrated behind closed doors by their perpetrators and accomplices. It’s hard for a proper papist to accept, but the truth is, despite and notwithstanding the knowledge that the Church will triumph over the gates of hell by power of God’s Spirit, we don’t really know how dismal the horizon will become throughout the timeline. I have been studying such things with ardor as of late, not out of mere curiosity, mind you, but to learn more precisely the face and tactics of the foxes in the henhouse. The smoke of Satan has entered through the cracks…

  • Anonymous

    unity, as in 40000 denominations, each led by a pastor claiming to be led by said Spirit? Not a very objective God, in that case…

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t say they haven’t been successful, they may have. Clearing people from them yeah, clearing specific houses yeah but clearing the world from that demon from moving somewhere else in order to possess again maybe not.

  • Anonymous

    God knows man very well, and established that his Church be set within a definitive construct (no, the Church is NOT a building per se), and with the need for a unique monarchical hierarchy. As such, the Catholic Church has withstood every imaginable onslaught for 2000 years, maintaining consistent doctrine throughout. If that is not the Spirit, perhaps man IS god afterall, because no construct of man alone would have survived.

  • Anonymous

    You are undoubtedly quite correct. I just wanted to throw what I had read out there to show that the story isn’t necessarily as one sided as many would like us to believe. The article I read was certainly plausible, in my opinion, but I have no idea how true it actually is.
    .
    I know that satan knows the Bible better than most of us and he knows that a divided house is more likely to fall than a unified one so having his minions in the Church is to be expected. Jesus did say that the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church, but I read that to say that the gates of hell will try their very best to prevail. They will ultimately fail but you are wise to be wary of the future.

  • SamuraiFrank Braam

    One of the panelists said leaving the house would be the answer if you see your chidl walking up the wall. Did he not get it? The CHILD is the one possessed not the house! Take the child to a hotel and you will be taking the demon with you! It has been verified that mental illness is out of the picture here. Witnesses have seen the wall walking and heard the strange voices. I am surprised that Beck would equate demonology with moon walking being a religious man and all! I saw a demon as a teen. I was sober when I saw my face disappear in the mirror when performing a satanic ritual. My friend saw and described what I saw! My wife and I experienced a malignant spiritual presence one night when sleeping. I felt as if something was trying to get inside of me! I got to pray in front of my icon corner (we are Eastern Orthodox converts) with my Bible battling this malignant force. It left us 20 minutes later. So just because someone has not experienced it does not mean it does not happen!

  • Anonymous

    There is a rather large difference in having empathy for people and being an empath. Empathy know when there are spirits present and can do extra sensory things other people can’t. For instance, you remember when Glenn interviewed the lady who does Blaze news headlines? He said he can look at pictures and tell what the person was feeling when the picture was taken. He is an empath as well if he can do that.

  • Anonymous

    Catholicism is not a denomination. It did not “take its name down” from any other source, because it has always been THE source. If you are correct, and your brother who stands against you theologically is also correct because he is in Christ, how could you actually constitute Church? You would be a house divided against itself. So, “no matter what denomination” is, in itself, a hint of internal division, which is impossible for God.
    Notwithstanding this inconvenient theology, I agree that we ARE the body of Christ – the Church…but that’s not the full definition.

  • Bryan Ketler

    I attended a non denominational church, a Bible believing church for a couple of years and had an aquaintence who was demon possessed. I saw many things as are described in this story during the many days of exorcism. I saw her slither on the ground like a snake, have black eyes, snake eyes, smoke come from her head, bleeding razor blade cuts on her arms heal up before our eyes, demonic voices, super strength, and more. But demons are no match for the Word of God and the name of Jesus! She has been perfectly happy and free and serving God ever since. About 10 years now. This stuff happens all the time.

  • Anonymous

    And I gather now that you are wiser than you let on… :)

  • Anonymous

    Because of my theology or because I acknowledged that you are correct? :-)

  • Anonymous

    Actually, you need look no further than your bible. Matthew 6:9. We actually pray the way Jesus Himself led us to. You see no mention of “for thine is the kingdom…” etc.

    9“ This, then, is how you should pray:

    “ ‘Our Father who art in heaven,

    hallowed be thy name,

    10 Thy kingdom come,

    Thy will be done,

    on earth as it is in heaven.

    11 Give us today our daily bread.

    12 And forgive us our debts,

    as we also have forgiven our debtors.

    13 And lead us not into temptation,

    but deliver us from the evil one.’”

  • Anonymous

    touché, mon frère. Both, I suppose…

  • Anonymous

    I never said you ONLY talk to saints, I mearly said that talking to anyone other than our Father in heaven is a waste. As for your judgements and accusations of me – pride, spewing misinformation, ignorant, claiming authority – I can only say “judge not lest you yourslef fall into judgement” and of course, I forgive you.

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad you took that the right way. My sense of humor gets me into trouble from time to time :-o

  • SamuraiFrank Braam

    Please read the whole context of a Bible passage before citing. The Commandment of not making images is concerning false gods. Remember the Hebrews came from a polytheistic society where flase deities with human bodies and animal heads were worshipped! This is why when Moses was on the Mountain the Hebrews built a golden calf (scholars say it was a deity of the cult of Serapis) thinking God was that deity. The Commandment is to emphasize monotheism. He is a jealous God. Yet God cannot contridict Himself, right? But when the Hebrews were bitten by snakes they asked Moses for help and God told him to have a bronze serpent made and whosoever looked at it would be healed! God used an image of a serpent to heal the Hebrews! This event was later on cited by Christ when He said that when the Son of Man is lifted up He would bring all men unto Himself! So did God speak from both sides of His mouth or was He teaching us something here?

  • Anonymous

    NW, please pray for my sister – she is grappling with some personal demons at the moment. I just “prayed” to you for your kinship in prayer to the triune God, in the proper context of the word. I do not worship you, and I don’t feel that you are necessarily powerful. Nonetheless, I besought your aid in prayer because God will listen to both of us, and Christ has instructed us to “pursue” Him with ardor. Your real beef is with the matter of Saint with capital ‘S’ in accord with Catholic theology, and the “idolatry” that you associate with the notion that we’ve presumed to “give” people prestige in the spectrum of salvation. To argue this would be a different tack altogether, I believe. Suffice to say, for matter of this dialectic thread, we are splitting hairs and battling semantics…but only because YOU want it to be that way.

  • Anonymous

    Ditto from this end. All the more difficult is nuance within the written word, absent body language.

  • Anonymous

    “(b) One who pleads in behalf of another. Milton.”

    Exactly.

  • Anonymous

    All, thanks for the rousing dialogue tonight. In good spirit, I sign off to all with whom I engaged! Peace!

  • Frank Munshower

    you are a fairly sick human being.

  • Anonymous

    Well, you make a very compelling case to be sure, but I might need a little more evidence….

  • Miles1962

    Because those who believe in Satan and Demons are very well represented here, let me place a minority opinion. I have taught the Bible since 1981 and have always been committed to The God of the Bible, but more importantly, the God of Truth. My instincts are that the God of the Bible and the God of Truth must be the same. I have had to study the Bible without the strings of religion, and as a result I’ve been forced to reject the Christian version of “Satan”. A superstitious reading of “satan” which originally meant “adversary” has been mixed with the Lucifer myth to create the faulty foundation of NT demonism, which as many have noticed is not in the OT. The reason is that the NT references have been massaged to lend credence to the Persian-Hellenistic religion of dualism. Those who fear Satan fear a creation of men, those who affected by demons needlessly harm themselves by going to the very people who created the problem in the first place: The evolved Church system. No, give me the Bible, its original meanings in its linguistic, historical and cultural background. The resulting religion is vastly superior to the neo-pagan form so popular today.

  • SamuraiFrank Braam

    As an Eastern Orthodox Christian I respectfully disagree with that Petrine comment. I was devout Roman Catholic for most of my life until 13 years ago. Christ asked the most important question a person can ask: ” Who do you say I am?” St Peter rightly confesses Christ as the Son of the Living God and Christ praises him for it! St Peter was indeed given the keys (authority). But the “Rock” Christ mentions is what St Peter confessed about He being the Son of God, thus Jesus not Peter is the Foundation of the Church. Remember this started with a question about Christ because He is the main topic here! St Paul does not single out any specific Apostle concerning the Church’s founding. He says in Ephesians 2:20 that CHRIST AND the Apostles are the foundation of the Church with Christ as the HEAD CORNERSTONE! Is not a corner stone a rock? Thus Christ is the Rock! St Peter was not the only one given the keys. See Matthew 18:18 where it shows Christ giving ALL the Apostles the keys!
    Historically, Rome had an honorary title as the “Primus entre Pares” or First among Equals. He was seen as a big brother but not as the leader of the whole Church! Rome was just one of 5 major patriarchates (with Antioch- we are still here, Jerusalem, Constantinople -presently Istanbul, Alexandria Egypt- still here folks).

  • Anonymous

    The first occurrence of satan in the Bible is in Genesis – the Garden of Eden – where satan persuaded Eve to eat the fruit God had forbidden she and Adam to eat. So, I’m not sure what version of the Bible you are reading. And, contrary to your assertions, I have never felt compelled, as a Catholic, to accept an interpretation of the Bible that I felt uncomfortable with.

  • SamuraiFrank Braam

    Yes…..but it was not the ROMAN Catholic Church but the Catholic Church when the West was united with the East!

  • FTMXDM40

    LEARN THE MEANING AND REASONS BEHIND THESE PRACTICES BEFORE SPEWING YOUR NONSENSE

  • Anonymous

    I remember going through this years ago and I came across an explanation that showed why Peter is the rock Jesus refers to. It was a rather long dissertation that went fairly deeply into linguistic nuances so I remember very little of the details but the author of the article left absolutely no doubt as to what Jesus was referring to as “the rock”.
    .
    Even if you ignore that part, though, it follows that Peter was the rock. In Acts, we see that Peter was the head of the new Church. And, if you look at the history of the Catholic Church, you will see an unbroken succession from Peter to Francis. So, it follows logically that Jesus was not referring to Himself as the rock but to Peter who would be the earthly head of His Church.
    .
    Regardless, though, I am Catholic because I *choose* to be Catholic and I am happy to see that you follow Jesus as well.

  • SamuraiFrank Braam

    He surely was not Protestant! He was not Baptist, “Non-Denominational”, Evangelical Christian nor Pentecostal. He is a member of the One Apostolic Catholic Church, when the West was united with the East. Let’s say when I was born my name was not Frank. My parents named me Frank. Just because I was not named Frank immediately does not mean I was myself! Same thing with the Catholic Church .

  • Anonymous

    The schism occurred long after the Catholic Church moved to Rome.

  • Michael Murphy

    Those who are handicapped there heart speaks for themselves. We are saved by grace alone not by good works like reading the bible. God speaks and works in ways that we cannot think. He is outside our time and understanding. But he is near to those whose hearts cry out to him. And however they cry, with little understanding of biblical scripture it will not matter. This peace of Jesus of Nazareth surpasses understanding. And this knowledge of God is our wisdom so we may understand the world and spread the gospel. Its a tough life to live. but he brings life to the dry bones.

  • Anonymous

    vdestefa, I appreciate your prayers believing that they were offered sincerely. I certainly do not seek the worship of anyone! And sincerely hope that, were it offered, I would be given the grace from God to reject it. I claim no power of my own and don’t seek to exercise authority over anyone – it is enough of a battle exercising power over my own flesh!
    I am happy to stand in the gap with you on behalf of your friend and when 2 or more agree as touching anything… I pray that the peace of God would guard her heart and mind and that He would pour a blessing she can’t imagine. If you know her needs, pray and I will stand in agreement.
    I hope that she understands that I bear her no ill will and I hope you understand that I am not hateful toward the Catholic Church. I have no doubt that there are believers there, and unbelievers too, there is truth there and error – the same can be said of all “churches”. I do enjoy reasoned argument, as long as it doesn’t get personal and noticing the time, will agree to stop splitting hairs with you tonight. In fact, I noticed an email about a respnse from you to a comment of mine to fawnday that I could not find to post my agreement with you. There is common ground to find and I think that’s the best place to leave it tonight. Good night & God’s best to you & yours.

  • SIRWIZARD

    Physics is my education. I can usually explain anything that’s tangible or can be perceived in terms of physics. No, that doesn’t mean I don’t believe this story. It just means I cannot explain it in terms of physics. Sometimes, we just have to believe something else is involved…EVIL does exist.

  • agadofive.leti

    :-) No, but their website comes in very handy for amateurs like me. I’m a fan. I listen to their show all the time and buy many of their books. :-) I also get my information from EWTN. com

  • Miles1962

    Thanks for the nice try, but you are very incorrect. The first occurrence of the word “satan” is in the passage where the Angel of Yahweh became a satan to Balaam because Yahweh was against Balaam. Your reference to satan being in the garden is a theological innovation, the text says that what spoke to Eve was a “Nachash” meaning whisperer, hisser. The Bible states that this creature was the most subtle beast of the field. Snakes on the other hand, are only half as smart as your average turtle. Are you suggesting that satan is the most subtle beast of the field? I hope not, the story is an explanation of how sin came into the world, not a detailed roadmap of theology or history. Like other wisdom literature within the Bible, we should go easy with the assumptions. The Bible does not say that satan spoke to Eve. And the first usage of the word satan is for an angel of Yahweh, a good guy. Satans in the Bible are adversaries, nothing more.

  • Eodsam

    BS, you do pray to saints for help and Priests do absolve sins. Where does it say in the bible that you need priests to speak to or hear from God? Where is it written that “Saints” appointed by MAN have any power whatsoever and why pray or ask them for anything? I really don’t care what religion someone is as long as they wish me no harm, but at least be truthful about it

  • Omalley

    Was Martin Luther a heretic?

  • charles

    Bert-To know God is to understand he is perfect justice so there is no fallacy in thinking mentally ill or low IQ people would be judged poorly for not understanding HIS Word. Keep learning about your Father and it will become clearer.

  • Anonymous

    John 20:23 for forgiveness of sins

    For praying to saints, you can check out Maccabees or a number of places in the NT. See http://www.catholic.com/tracts/praying-to-the-saints

  • bdgshv

    he never said they would be judged poorly – read it again. He said these kind of people will not reconize the evil one.

  • Anonymous

    Who else but satan would convince a person to do something that they were specifically prohibited from doing by God Himself? The fact that they didn’t use the name “satan” doesn’t mean that it wasn’t him.

  • Anonymous

    Yup, especially in his early days.

  • Dogloverbuthadacat

    God doesn’t need a middle man, and blindly reciting a prayer 25 times doesn’t absolve your sins.

  • Anonymous

    If this story is true, these people need to have some Spirit-filled Christian leaders who are prayed up and living truly for God come in and spiritually cleanse the entire house, walking through it and pleading the Blood of Jesus over the entire family and the house and grounds around it.

    Also, the family needs to be counseled to find out if the was a spiritual door opened by any of the family members. Have they played with Ouija boards? Watched occult-themed movies, including Harry Potter? Engaged in any kind of New Age ideas or practices? Read those types of books?

    What many Christians, and virtually no unbelievers, don’t realize is that the spirit world IS the real world. Everything we see around us will one day be gone. The spirit world is forever.

    If the Church of Jesus Christ, which includes all Believers of all denominations, would educate themselves on Spiritual Warfare, we would not be losing the culture the way we are and the Enemy of our Souls would not dare to pull stunts such as these.

  • Anonymous

    Catholic publicizes it..It is done everyday by called and dedicated Christian protestants.

  • Anonymous

    He did not know them but he knows us and flees…We have all power over all the power of the enemy in Christ Jesus and by his spirit….

  • Jennifer Nicholson

    No need to be testy Fitz. The saints referred to in that scripture are the body of believers here on earth. What scripture gives authority for a body of men to appoint post humous sainthood on other men? Yes I’ve read the Bible. I’m not attacking you. I simply disagree with your stance, which was an offensive one to Protestants. So far I’ve got more questions than answers…

  • Trish

    I hate to say this but I think this sounds more like the power of suggestion. I think the mom and grandma might have made this such a big deal or distraction to these kids that they started to believe in it and act the part.

  • Lonnie Walker

    As a paranormal investigator, I’ve seen a bunch of things I can’t explain. If there are other witnesses to these incidents, I’d have to say they are probably legit. The biggest thing to remember is that if it is truly demonic, things happen in 3′s to mock the trinity. 3 knocks, 3 scratches, clocks stop at 3, etc. Otherwise it’s negative human spirit. In that case, just burn off some dragon’s blood and sage and it will go away.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus gave Peter (formerly Simon) the name “Cephas”. Cephas, in Aramaic, the language Jesus spoke, translates to “rock.” Jesus named Peter ROCK. “You are Peter, and on this ROCK I will build my Church…” This is crystal clear. You’d have to try pretty hard to disbelieve this.

  • drew

    By stating you are a Catholic or a Baptist or any other label of Christianity you are separating yourself from other believers. The part that Christians and Catholics alike have missed is that man created those religions. God did no label His Church. He did not give us a name. We gave ourselves a name and that has defined us. I am a follower and believer in Christ and my faith can not be summed up in a label. It’s hard to see the weird rituals on the Catholic channel and not cast doubt about why they do what they do. Giving the belief in Christ a name or accepting a name given to that belief was the most destructive action of God’s Church.

  • Anonymous

    Some years ago, a pastor of a church I used to attend, old a story of when he was once visited by a woman who said she had a demon. There was a small hole in her back and he could hear whispering. He asked her if she was a Christian, she said she was and attended church all her life. Then my pastor asked her if she had ever been told about salvation. He expounded to her about the cross and redemption. No “exorcism,” no “rituals.” After a while, she quietly started weeping. Son after that, she said: “OH! it’s gone!” The hole had gone; light had come in.

  • drew

    The spirit world is such a mystery and very overlooked. I will pray for this family.

  • Suska

    This is real. This does happen. I live in a small farming community in Northwest Indiana and found myself and my family on the receiving end of a demon possessed person. Three exorcisms (along with a fractured arm and broken thumb) later, we are finally free. I know full well right I would not be here today if God didn’t intervene. It was ONLY possible by the grace of GOD and the saving blood of Jesus. I have seen things I still don’t understand and cannot be explained. My faith is most certainly strengthened by these last four years, but I wouldn’t wish this on ANYONE!!

  • Joshua David Taft

    For such a big event where police, doctors, case workers, the news, and 3 exorcisms are involved, I’m surprised that there isn’t more than a picture of a window with a figure (which could still be explained by matrixing), a single ‘possible’ EVP, a lot of paperwork (really, a lot) and a story. Don’t get me wrong, I think the possibility of the event does exist, but for such a big story, one would think that more evidence would be involved. There should be more photographic, video and audio recordings available.

  • Suska

    Trish, I once believed as you did. Stories of demons were just that to me….stories in the bible, until one day we were face to face with a true demonic, possessed person. I can’t tell you how we survived the attacks, but I can tell you this, ONLY…ONLY by the grace of our dear Lord and Savior Jesus Christ are my husband of 27yrs., my three children we are here today and are for the time free of Satans evil followers.

  • Suska

    Joshua, I can’t speak for this family, but from my experience the demon interfered with telephones (4 total, 1 land line and three separate cell phones) doorbells, our hometown police department, I have not one picture either of all that occurred, or one recording, but branded in my brain is the horrific sound of the voice of these demons, the contorted face of it’s possessed victim and I had a bruise to my upper arm that was such a deep tissue bruise, that it lasted 8 months.

  • Suska

    I agree and understand what your saying. x ray tech isn’t saying you need to read the bible to go to heaven He is saying unless you read your instruction manual(the Bible) you won’t know what your up against. I knew the stories and that’s all I thought it was….STORIES. But Satan and three of his demons showed me else wise, through a beloved family member who became definitely demon possessed. Three exorcisms later…we are for the time are free.

  • garyt

    The Catholics have the wrong Bible, their Bible was written by Jerome in Alexandria, Egypt it is known as the Alexandrian Cult. How can a baby be saved, when it has no understanding of anything in life, much less eternity. Catholics have not idea what the real Bible (King James) says. You can not go to heven praying to Mary, she can’t hear you, she is just a woman and she has to go to judgement, just like everyone else. Don’t be fooled by what someone (man) tells you, go find the truth for yourself. Martin Luther didn’t know the truth until he read a real Bible from the org. texts. The Catholic church is the church of the Devil, what better way to get people into hell by telling them a bunch of lies. Do you think that the Catholic church would murder between 70 and 100 million Protestants, if they were the true church of Jesus? Do you know how many Jews they murdered in WW ll, and through the ages? Have you ever heard how many Moslems they have killed in the name of religion. The Bible says the Anti-Christ will sit on the throne of David and declare himself to be Jesus or (God), the Pope has already tried to do that when he sent 11 Crusades to Jewrusalem, check your history books, don’t be fooled, your soul is on the
    line

  • Staci Goodrich

    You’re right there is only one true Church and God said it would carry his name. Jesus Christ. Also the church, God church, was removed from the earth ie. The Dark Ages. And only when people were free to worship was the church returned to the earth, with God Proper Power.

  • Anonymous

    Wait… what is offensive to Protestants? What stance of mine were you disagreeing with? It wasn’t my post you replied to above, you know.

    You know what’s offensive to me? I came here to read about this story, and the very first comment I see is a Protestant bashing the Catholic Church. Talk about offensive. I am sick and bloody tired of it, especially because the most outspoken Protestants know virtually nothing – NOTHING – about The Church. I’ve been both Protestant and Catholic, and I can promise that the majority of Catholic bashers have either never been Catholic and have no understanding of the Church, but act like they do, or they are former Catholics that never learned their own theology. I hope you can understand why a person might be a little testy.

  • Anonymous

    Uh…. WHAT?

  • Anonymous

    This is the biggest load of absolute crap I have ever heard in my life. This is exactly the kind of rubbish ignorant people spew, acting like they have any knowledge whatsoever but having nothing but prideful ignorance. You have no idea what you’re talking about, and you really need to just stop. For the love of all.

  • Staci Goodrich

    In the New Testament Christ said his church would bear his name, Jesus Christ, Christ also specified how his church would be organized. Only one church has the same organization. In less than 200 years after Christ death all the prophets and members of Christ church had been murdered, therefore the Priesthood that Christ had given man was lost from the earth. Only God could bring that power back to man.

  • Anonymous

    Do you understand what the reformation was? It was Luther stating he was something OTHER THAN a part of the Church that was established by Jesus 1500 years before. You’re right – he was separating himself – and he then led millions of others astray – from the other believers. As has been said many times before, “Catholic” is not a label. It means “universal.” Universal, as in it was established for ALL CHRISTIANS. You say “it’s hard to see the weird rituals on the Catholic channel…” So what you’re saying here is that, because you have no understanding of what you’re seeing, it must mean the Catholic Church is wrong or bad. Sadly, being confused and not understanding is the reason most people don’t like the Catholic Church. Doesn’t seem like a solid reason, does it?

  • smokehill

    Anyone who is demented enough to swallow this nonsense should be forever banned from either voting or owning a firearm.

    They should also be spayed or neutered, of course, but Democrats refuse to vote for this kind of civic improvement. They know where their core voters come from.

  • Stendec Nevele

    Yes, utterly ridiculous story and nothing original about it. Same old stuff as in all the horror movies.

  • matt

    It’s not the worst thing in the world to live in a haunted place. I live in one and even though I have had moments, where the spirits have gotten physical (been thrown into a wall and bound to that wall for 30 seconds) but I have met the sweetest little girl, that to this day I kid you not. Probably saved my life.

  • Joshua David Taft

    Oh, I have no doubt. I’m usually out looking for this kind of stuff, mainly for better understanding it. I just try to maintain an objective opinion about things like this and other different instances. I could cite a few quotes that influence my practices and idealism in cases such as this, but I feel it would be somewhat frivolous to share. I just thought that even in the recording that captured the EVP it sounded like the officers were taking quite a few pictures, and the report showed that there were equipment problems. I figured if anything there would have been more publically available from them especially showing the damages caused by the activity, as one of the officer did mention something about some sort of burn marks, and more on the audio. I’m not saying that I don’t believe it happened, or that the phenomena doesn’t exist. I just maintain a skeptical approach to things in order to separate the impossible from what remains to be a likely explanation. A process of elimination I guess you could say.

  • Anonymous

    I was expecting to hear bumper music such as Dancing Queen and The Chase with this segment.

  • http://www.facebook.com/charlayne.corderbrawdy Charlayne Corder Brawdy

    I am constantly amazed at the fact that when Catholic is brought into the convo everyone one goes off the rails and it ends up being about every stain throughout history on the Church …. But I know one thing I want the Catholic Priest trained in Exorcism called if Possession is happening …. and yes it does happen … This is why the Pope has called for every dioceses throughout the country and world to have a trained exorcist on hand ….Possession Its on the rise
    FYI

  • http://www.facebook.com/charlayne.corderbrawdy Charlayne Corder Brawdy
  • SamuraiFrank Braam

    The Great Schism occured around 1053-4 AD. My point is when St Ignatius of Antioch said the name of the Church was the CATHOLIC Church East and West were together. It was around the 11th century when the churches began to be called the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches.

  • SamuraiFrank Braam

    The linguistic nuance you mentioned is concerning the Koine Greek word “Petros” meaning rock. When Christ refers to St Peter the masculine word “Petros” is used and when the confession is stated the feminine version “Petra” is used. Christ did not want to confuse the masculine with the feminine. St Peter is a male. The main focus in the section of Matthew is not St Peter but Christ! Who did the people say He was? Who did the Holy Apostles say He was? The confession is the Rock and foundation of the Church as stated in Ephesians 2:20. Unlike many converts I am not anti-Roman Catholic. I am very grateful for my Roman Catholic background because of it was there I learned to love Holy Tradition, the Sacraments (the Mysteries in Orthodoxy), the Saints, St Mary the Theotokos (Mother of God),and met Christ,etc….I defend the RC church from misinformed bigots. Originally Christianity was not a Western religion but an Eastern one. Eastern Orthodoxy has maintained this Eastern flavor. There were five equal patriarchates with Rome being the ONLY Western one. All the 7 Ecumenical Councils occurred in the East because it was the battle between heresy and Apostolic teaching.

  • Joseph Kleman

    I believe in God almighty; who created all. I believe Satan is real. I believe there is a Heaven and there is a Hell. I believe there are angels and there are demons. Why; the bible tells me so.
    Glenn asked in this segment if Satan can touch us. There are more than 70 references in the Old and New Testament of Satan and or demons affecting, influencing or “possessing” people. Most of Jesus’ ministry was healing and casting out demons.
    With that said and after reading many of the post here; I also would like to point to Jesus who said we would be known as His disciples by our love for one another.
    God bless you and keep you.

  • Suzie Nunnally Clary

    Catholicism came out of the era of Constantine, after he made Christianity legal and tried to blend all the religions together so he could harmoniously rule them. Protestantism came out of Catholicism; which is why so many of the rituals continued. Both John Calvin and St. Augustine came out of Catholicism, so their innate understanding of biblical writing came from their Catholic teachings. There has always been a remnant of disciples who were not a part of either of these two theologies, that the Calvinist and the Catholics persecuted and killed.

  • Suzie Nunnally Clary

    Catholicism came out of the era of Constantine, after he made Christianity legal and tried to blend all the religions together so he could harmoniously rule them. Protestantism came out of Catholicism; which is why so many of the rituals continued. Both John Calvin and St. Augustine came out of Catholicism, so their innate understanding of biblical writing came from their Catholic teachings. There has always been a remnant of disciples who were not a part of either of these two theologies, that the Calvinist and the Catholics persecuted and killed.

  • Suzie Nunnally Clary

    Jesus said clean the inside of the cup and the outside will take care of itself. I stand with many different groups on many different social issues. But the truth is, if a community were saved, the issues wouldn’t be there. We’re lost in a community of religion instead of in the community of Jesus. Each one of us has to know and experience the love of Jesus in order to love him in return which is what He says himself we need in order to be obedient to him.

  • Suzie Nunnally Clary

    I wish I knew offhand all the biblical references to the remnant. I think our founding fathers correctly understood how power corrupts even the strongest of men. So they set us up to not have concentrated power, thus protecting religious and business freedom. God dispersed the people at Babel for their unity was strong but their desires were corrupt. Our greatest govt leaders today in the world live as their neighbors do. Some even less so, like Ariel Sharon who slept on a twin bed and had a table and chair. He did not want to be swayed by the power available to him (recently deceased Prime Minister of Israel). There is a remnant in every big church too, despite false theology.

  • Jeremy Fosnow

    He never said you couldn’t get into heaven if you didn’t read the bible. He said you would not recognize evil if you did know what’s in the bible to define evil. His comment said nothing about having the read the bible to be saved.

  • Suzie Nunnally Clary

    Staci, He also said there is always a remnant. Even in OT times, Elijah lamented because he believed he was the only prophet left. God showed him a rock shattering storm, earthquake, fire, these great and mighty things, but it was in the little whisper in the soft wind that Elijah could hear God’s voice, not in the big things. God told him there were 7000 in Israel who had not bowed their knee to Baal or kissed him with their lips. He says there’s always a remnant. The ‘name’ of Jesus means, yes, his name, Jesus, yet also ‘name’ meant/means, “in the character and nature of”. So not only will his church bear his name, it would bear his ‘name’. Remember also “church” meant community… a community of believers.

  • Suzie Nunnally Clary

    I think it was Paul who said beware of following a person and not Jesus. 1Cor 3:14.

  • Lonewolf

    If Glenn wants to do a story on this he needs to contact Bob Larson, someone who knows a great deal about exorcisms.

  • Suzie Nunnally Clary

    There is one thing to consider. When Jesus called Simon ‘Peter’, the Greek says ‘you there’ are Peter, and upon this Rock, the Greek prepositions, says upon ‘this’ rock
    ‘here’, in other words Jesus pointing to himself, here, will I build my church. It was a play on words. Simon (who is standing over there) will be called Petros, Peter, Rock, and upon this Rock here (where I stand) will I build the church. Jesus calls himself the rock, better to throw yourself on the rock than be crushed by it (Revelation), the corner stone. James, Jesus brother led the first church or community of believers in Jerusalem.

  • eyes wide shut

    I have had the hand of evil touch me and seen a figure before me of all black. It was with the mention of Christ’s name that it was banished from before me. I know God is real and His Truth. To the point of God’s Church on earth, it dwells in the hearts of the believer. His church is not of this earth… To say ANY organized religion by ANY name be it Catholic, Protestant or otherwise is to miss the point. When 2 or more are gathered in His name He is there. That is the Church. Test all things with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the falsehoods of all religions will be brought forth. Go to Him for the Truth. Do not seek it from the counsel of others. His counsel is there for the asking. May God Bless.

  • Suzie Nunnally Clary

    Yet who does the word say is our intercessor? God says Jesus continually intercedes for us. What does the Vicar of Christ mean according to Pope Leo, 1894. What about the perpetual virginity of Mary and the efforts to venerate her as the 4th Godhead? What about God warning us to not pray to angels or dead people (the only risen one is Jesus), Lastly, though there are many more, Why does the Papacy (as with today’s Rabbinical head) have written that if a word from the Pope (or Rabbi) contradicts the written word, we are to put aside scripture and give heed to the church leader. God says hold his word, keep it in your heart and mind.

  • Anonymous

    Suzie, I fear that the opposite is true. You are lost in a self-defined “community of Jesus” because you are part of a revolution that abandoned THE single religion established by Christ, and the end result is confusion about the singular, objective, absolute nature of truth. Such is why you can stand paradoxically within your own conclusions when you state, “I stand with many different groups on may different social issues”. A house divided against itself…

    Further, in response to your weigh-in on the etymology of Christ’s use of the name “Peter”, this link will clarify the Catholic position on the matter, if you care to indulge: http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples/peter-the-rock

  • Suzie Nunnally Clary

    Although I haven’t seen much ‘hate’ here, your question is quite disturbing. I recommend to step into the shoes of a non Catholic and read church history, not just Catholic, just the church history and what it did in govts since Constantine, and ask why would so many people think the founders of America flipped in their graves when Kennedy, a Catholic, was voted in as president. And why is it kind of terrifying for
    non-Catholics to see so many Catholics sitting on the US Supreme Court.

  • Bill Rice

    Matthew 16:18 “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.” Peter was the start of the Catholic church, and was the first Pope. Please stop with the anti-Catholic hogwash. Catholics WERE Christians before anyone else. It is not a myth.

  • Anonymous

    Please provide one scintilla of evidence that Catholics believe “reciting a prayer 25 times” absolves us of our sins. I’ll be waiting.

  • Ruth Guthrie

    The devil is real and possession is real. There are many people who are “possessed” and often get diagnosed with some clinical illness. However, there is a difference between true evil and being bipolar. I’ve had experiences that would make your hair stand on end, and know for a fact that there is a spiritual war being waged constantly for our souls. Thank God He has been merciful.
    I think we may begin to see more like this family as time goes on. I agree with several posters— we’ve allowed this love of the paranormal into our society.

  • Daniel Suarez

    As a Catholic do you follow the Pope? Do Catholics pray to the Virgin Mary to ask God to answer their prayers? Why do Catholics go to confession and ask a priest to forgive them of their sins? Just curious to know.

  • Anonymous

    WOW! I wanted to hear more on the issue of the article, but all I’m reading here is gibberish about the bible and the church. The more one reads from all you experts, the more one can get confused, just like listening to so many televangelists these days.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t say anything about reading the Bible, either. I was referring to people who can’t comprehend what is in the Bible. If someone doesn’t understand the difference between good and evil but have accepted Jesus into their heart, are they able to enter Heaven in your opinion?

  • TSpur

    Yea Bert I hear you and I kind of agree but there is no where in the Bible to back what you said. Harsh as it is, there is no where in the Bible that says young children will go to heaven so I’m not sure

  • Fat Lip

    When Satan was thrown out of heaven 1/3 of the angels where cast out with the evil one this may just be who all those UFO’s are too but i’m in the mood for a good mocking today go ahead . think about it though it makes more sense than the lies we have had stuffed down our throats for centuries.

  • Anonymous

    The article I read went far deeper than that into linguistic nuances. It focused upon Jesus use of the word “rock” within the context of the conversation – even to the point of ignoring the translation of the word since that was a point of disagreement. And, linguistically, the conversation makes no sense if you accept that Jesus was referring to Himself as the rock. The only person who could be the rock here is Peter. That is true if you look at what Jesus said and add to it the circumstantial evidence in Acts that supports such a conclusion.

  • Daniel Suarez

    A person who is Catholic do they follow the Pope? Don’t the Catholics pray to the Virgin Mary to ask God to answer their prayers? Why do Catholics go to confession and ask a priest to forgive them of their sins? Just curious to know.

  • Anonymous

    The Catholic Church existed long before the era of Constantine. Peter was the first Pope, remember. It took some time to nail down the form that the Church would take, that is true, but that doesn’t mean that the Church didn’t exist. Many of the ritual and rites practiced today in the Catholic Church are exactly the same as they were over 2000 years ago.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus created the Catholic Church. See Matthew 16:18.

  • thedogwalker

    These stories always end the same way, a Catholic Priest comes over and sprinkles some magic water and all is well. Why not a Rabbi or a Baptist?

  • Anonymous

    We Catholics aren’t as blind as you seem to think but I am interested to hear why non-Catholics find having Catholics on the SC or in any other position of power is so terrifying.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    duh.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    I read about a lot of UFO’s accounts and many I read about sound like the work of demons than an intelligent being from space.

  • Jessica

    Having read many of the comments on this article, I just can’t believe how much public in-fighting we have among the Christian church. Regardless of denomination, is not one of the main goals of the Christian church to spread the Good News, bringing non-believers to the point of accepting Jesus Christ as being the Son of God, the Savior? Yet how many do we scare away with all this “I’m right, you’re wrong” arguing? Why can we not set aside our doctrinal disagreements for the bigger picture? Why can we not work together to seek and save the lost souls regardless of which Christian church they choose to join? What an unstoppable force the Christian church would be if we’d set aside our disagreements and focus on that which we can agree on!

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely. Why on EARTH would Jesus preface his statement about building His Church with “You are Peter” (Cephas, which translates to ROCK in Aramaic)? Does Peter not know his own name? Does he not know who he is? Why would Jesus tell him who he is unless that statement had direct correlation to his next statement? The implication that Jesus was referring to Himself is utterly absurd and no amount of insisting by Protestants will ever make it less so.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, Gary, that was quite the post. Very misinformed, unfortunately.
    .
    The Christian Bible was put together by the Catholic Church. It had to be because there were no other Christians at the time. What today’s Protestants have is a watered down version of the Bible (not as watered down as Martin Luther wanted it but it is still missing a bunch of stuff).
    .
    I do have a copy of the King James version of the Bible and, believe it or not, I haven’t been excommunicated because of that. However, many people (Bible scholars) believe that the KJV has many errors in it and later versions are more accurate.
    .
    The Catholic Church killed 70 to 100 million Protestants? You realize, of course, that one of the Ten Commandments addresses lying, right? And, if you were to take the time to do a bit of research, you would find that such a statement is untrue. So, I would suggest that you read *actual* historical documents to find out what did and did not happen so that you are not violating one of God’s Commandments.
    .
    You might also want to do a bit of research on what the Crusades were. In a nutshell, the Crusades were a defensive action by Christian Europe designed to repel the invasion by Muslim Arabs. Note the word “defensive”. Later Crusades were more of an armed escort for Christian Europeans who wanted to visit the Holy Land but the original ones were strictly defensive.
    .
    Yes, I know that my soul is on the line. That is one of the primary reasons that I stick with the Catholic Church. Jesus said “and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”. What you are saying is that either Jesus was wrong or that He lied. Not a place I would like to be.

  • Anonymous

    AND, they are either taken directly from behaviors by Jesus or the Apostles, or they are based on biblical teaching.

  • Anonymous

    That is very true. However, the question then becomes “Which Church – the Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox – is the continuation of the original Catholic Church?” I, and most Roman Catholics, believe it to be the Roman Catholic Church. That’s why we stick with it.

  • Anonymous

    Also, if God didn’t ‘need a middle man,’ why did Jesus feel the need to establish His Church on earth? Again, please explain. I’ll be waiting.

  • Anonymous

    I seriously doubt her answer will make any more sense than anything else that’s been implied on this thread. It’s just sad.

  • Fat Lip

    Hey bro you are right most can’t come to terms with it Sam they have to see it because they don’t feel it. If the truth got out people would understand why humans turn towards evil easier than kindness it is written .(and its easier for a camel to pass through a key hole than it is for a Man to enter the kingdom of heaven )

  • WatchmanDB

    Two Bible verses answer this question:

    1) “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish and has everlasting life”.

    2) “Greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world”.

    Jesus is Lord, the Son of God and can forgive your sin and you will go to Heaven when you die. Pray, repent and ask now for Jesus to save you and forgive you for your sins and He will. He died for you.

    “Behold, I stand at the door and knock, if anyone hears my voice, I will come into him and will sup with him and he with Me”. God loves you very much and wants you to come to him now through His Son, Jesus.

  • Anonymous

    Jennifer, that’s marvelous. When did your pastor meet Jesus in the flesh, and when did Jesus physically lay hands on him to give him authority? Did you see Jesus, or shake hands with Him? Hint: that didn’t happen, and yes, since Jesus set things up that way by establishing His Church on Peter (petros, the Rock), that’s how He passes authority, and in NO OTHER WAY.

    As for what authority Protestant pastors use, I can’t speak to that, though there are examples in the Gospels where those who were not Apostles (i.e., did not have Apostolic authority) were casting out demons in the name of Jesus; the name of Jesus itself has authority, but that does not imply that the person using it has any authority given to them personally.

  • kevin

    Bert, the “knowledge” that gets one to heaven is not found in the head at all. It is found in the heart. There are two types of knowledge. The ones that only operate by the head knowledge (intellect, understanding, wisdom,and such) are the reason we see so much false religion, within the church. Knowledge has to get below the shoulders, or we end up depending and trusting in OURSELVES, whether we know it or not. The relational knowledge that is of the heart, is where two become one. This is why the covenant operates ONLY by that little four-letter word we only think we understand, called love. What we mistake 98% of the time for love, is it’s four-letter re-headed step-child of a sister, called lust. I rarely find many Christians today that have any idea what the covenant means?! We have been trained on the word “salvation”, and don’t even know that Jesus IS salvation! Most think salvation is “heaven”? But that’s just the result of, the reward of salvation. Jesus is salvation, and His salvation is by establishing HIS covenant with us. It’s the heart…..

  • Anonymous

    How can you accept Jesus into your heart and not know the difference between good and evil? I would think that’s impossible. Just the very act of being one with Christ gives you the understanding of what is good and what is evil. You don’t have to read a thing.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus says we must be innocent, like children. Of course children go to heaven. It’s the adults that have a problem, once we lose our innocence.

  • Anonymous

    Her name is Hilary and she is one evil B**ch.

  • Anonymous

    Luther said everyone should be able to read the Bible and interpret it for themselves. I agree, the bible speaks to everyone personally and individually, the way God wants it. A personal, individual relationship with Him. The Catholic church leaders believed only they could interpret God’s word. Are they Christians? Yup. So are ALL other religions based on Christ. We really must stop fighting amongst ourselves. Satan has divided us this way and laughs about it every day.

  • Anonymous

    Still looking for a man-made solution. No church formed by man is the “one true church” and we will find that out on Judgement Day. Protestants and Catholics hate each other because of the horrific violence and slaughter of each other over the differences, beginning about 1500 years ago. I hardly think either side made God happy.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus = God, no middleman

  • Anonymous

    The Anti-Christ is Mohammed, not the Pope. Take a very good and long look at the Muslim religion and you will find it is the exact opposite of everything Christ taught. And it is gaining strength now.

  • Anonymous

    Sure is good to see someone esle understands what really happened in the Crusades. The Muslims nearly wiped out all Christians, they came very very close. The Crusades were defense, they were not sent out to pick on the Muslims.

  • Anonymous

    Hence the reason they call it the “Universal Catholic Church”.

  • Anonymous

    Nope, Tigre, we are not. You are terribly mistaken about the origin of the Church. For that matter, did Christ simply leave us to our own devices to “figure it out” upon his Ascension into Heaven? Just from a logical basis, isn’t it more likely that he established a bedrock from which to continue what he started? If not, then we should welcome countless contradictory factions as the legacy of Christ. Catholicism has remained constant. Protestantism has never ceased to protest, and to split within itself.
    Moreover, your “churchless” solution is a “church”, or denomination, unto itself. Try as you may to distinguish yourself from Protestantism as an evangelical, you are still a Protestant. What are your roots? Who founded the “way” to which you subscribe, and what was his authority? If he has the authority of the Spirit, how is it that he is right and his neighbor, good Pastor Bob, is wrong? If the Spirit is God, then truly he cannot be divided against himself. Why, then, are so many Protestant and “non-denominational” pastors in conflict (more than 40000 of them, to be more precise) with each other while all claiming to be led by that same Spirit?
    I cannot help but sense that you unload a comment such as “we will find out on Judgment Day” as a “told you so” prognostication. It will be little consolation for any of us, on Judgment Day, if we truly have love for others and the salvation of their souls, to pat ourselves on the back for having been “right all along” while these poor souls are spit from His mouth. Instead, if you believe you know the Truth and the Way, present it as a loving invitation because you want others to experience the fullness of Christ’s provision as you know to be. Such is the Catholic viewpoint, presented properly (though rarely accomplished – myself included). We believe to convey (not “own”, nor having “invented”) the Truth as passed to the first disciples by Christ himself. History proves the Catholic Church to be the unbroken lineage through the ages, trace-able to Christ himself…and yes, Scripturally.

  • Anonymous

    And so, as I read all thes comments I see we continue to argue and be divided. Just like Satan wants. Keep it up guys, you’re making Satan very happy.

  • Jeffrey

    We are all Christians my friend. Your message is divisive. I would encourage you to research the corruption within the Catholic Church that led to the creation of other systems of worship. As long as you accept Christ into your life and follow the teachings of the Bible, there is no one system of praise that trumps another. I respect ALL my Christian brothers and sisters, as should you. I’m tired of Catholics and Protestants claiming to be better. It needs to stop.

  • Anonymous

    Indifferentism makes Satan even happier, I imagine. Tigre, if there exists dissention, then there must be some confusion regarding objective Truth at some level. Should this not be constructively discussed? It’s not always a warm and fuzzy dialectic, but is it any less necessary? Did Christ ever say, “Do this…or that…or that…really, whatever and however you want”? He was very explicit. So, in human terms, someone is right and someone is wrong, not for their own sake, but because the Truth remains elusive to one faction. To ignore disparity regarding definition of Truth is to embrace Relativism, or perhaps more specifically, Indifferentism.

  • Anonymous

    Jeffrey, you’ve missed the premise. It’s not a matter of man laying claim to Truth itself, as though he invented it. Instead, it has always been a question of the means by which Christ intended for us to follow Him for our time on Earth. Corruption in the Catholic Church does not corrupt the immutable Spirit – the Advocate – that has been with us since the Pentecost event. Such is why the Catholic doctrine and Dogma have remained constant DESPITE evil men within its ranks. And for all of Satan’s collusive efforts with these evil men to take down the Catholic Church throughout history, the Barque of Peter forges on under the protective hand of God. If this were not true, the Catholic Church would have been no more than a pile of ashes within the first couple centuries AD.
    So by your standard, corruption by men within the Catholic Church (while in contradiction to Catholic teaching) should justify the invention of new approaches to Christ’s legacy? Martin Luther himself was a hotbed of corruption, self-contradiction, and even delusion.
    And in regard to “accepting Christ into your life and following the teachings of the Bible”, which we SHOULD all prioritize, this is not the fullness of Christ’s intention for keeping His people fed. To the extent that folks have strayed from the Roadmap (the Catholic Church), faction and dissent have culminated, thus far, in 40000 denominations full of contradiction with one another. This is what happens when people strip the fullness of Truth and presume a simplistic approach to salvation. If you only took a moment to peer into the window of the Catholic Church, you would soon understand that it is not an exclusive monolith of legalism, but rather a FULL embrace by Christ himself via the entire metric of Grace which He Himself left for us to engage!

  • fakekn8

    Did they look like Teddy Roosevelt too?

  • Anonymous

    Hi vdestefa, I have learned a bunch from your posts about the Catholic church. But I wanted to make a comment about the exorcism thing. I cannot understand the statement of a prideful display of faith. The thing I am wondering is this, have you witnessed an exorcism gone wrong? Where are you getting your information? Do you have first hand information? Because I do. I have been a part of an exorcism where we took 7 demons out of a girl who was involved in Wicca. She had the eyes rolled back in her head, different voices, flailing around, etc. I was 22 and I operated under the authority given to believers. Not any prideful display. The bible says- These signs shall follow them that believe- they shall drive out demons….I fully believe that Catholics can drive out demons, and so can anyone else who operates in the power and authority given to them by the Holy Spirit. I believe that truth is given by spending time in the word of God and praying for revelation. I don’t think any one church has a corner on the truth. Most have some truth and some error. But anytime you say your church is the only church it sends up a red flag and makes me think it is a cult. We know the Catholic church is not a cult. You just find a church where you can join together with other believers and hold each other accountable to the word and prayer. You can’t just make the statement that no one but a Catholic can perform an exorcism, because it just isn’t true. The other thing I would like to point out here is that even if you have the perfect church and attend faithfully your whole life doesn’t mean you will go to heaven. Each person is accountable for their own personal relationship with Jesus. You must accept his sacrifice, in place of your own good deeds and proclaim your need for a savior. Jesus blood as an atonement is what really matters. Those who accept Jesus and make him savior and Lord will enter in and those who try to make it on their own good deeds will be denied. Trying to move the argument to something else like which church is the best is just keeping us all sidetracked from the real mission which is to go into all the world and proclaim Jesus to the unbeliever and teach them to live lives worthy of Jesus.

  • Anonymous

    IQ has nothing to do with it we are instructed to learn the Bible through the spirit and that’s the Holy Spirit of G-d.

  • Anonymous

    smokehill, If I had no relationship with God, and didn’t believe in anything other than myself, I would agree with you.

  • Anonymous

    I think you misunderstand, FTM. I love my Church, which is why I emote so strongly against its assailants. Not sure what you are implying about deep rooted issues, but it doesn’t feel very pleasant. Shame, shame. What I’ve stated are documented facts, even to the extent that popes such as Pius IX, Pius X, Leo XIII, Pius XI, and Pius XII have decried them by name. From there, the shattering effects speak for themselves, embedded in the data which describes the decline of strength in the ranks since the mid 60′s. My beef with Mary has only to do with the comment on priestly celibacy, a topic surrounded by misinformation and ulterior motive. I hope this clarifies.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed, Tigre! Most people are mis-informed about the Crusades, while the “by the tip of the sword” Muslims ALWAYS seem to slip out the back door from the equation!

  • Anonymous

    Again, we are very close in conclusions on the matter of Islam. In fact, I think Mohammed, the “perfect man” of Islam, is the perfect insult to Christ…intentionally(by Satan’s design). Further, I believe, wholeheartedly, that Mo’s visits from the “angel Gabriel” were actually the “Light Bearer” himself – the old serpent.

  • Anonymous

    vdestfa, I’m thinking you believe in extreme-sovereignty. That God has complete control over what goes on in this world. I’m sure God did set up the Catholic church. Are you really going to make the case that the Catholic church hasn’t made any mistakes? Do you think every priest throughout history has only ever operated under the power of the Holy Spirit and never sinned? Of course mistakes have been made. We are human, and that is why there are so many different denominations. But, we are still the body of Christ. We make choices and we sometimes have to pay for them. Catholic and Protestant alike have made mistakes, we aren’t perfect, but we serve a perfect God. I still don’t understand the need to defend so vehemently. It seems to me like maybe you believe in the church more than in Jesus. What if your church was taken away and all you had was your bible and your prayer life with your creator? Jesus is what matters, not church history. I could have relationship with him in any church that named him Lord and believed in his sacrifice. I agree that most of the new bibles have some error, especially the NIV. But I could still maintain my walk if I keep my eyes on Him. There are no perfect churches because there are no perfect people.

  • Guest

    Really?

  • Anonymous

    Good man, NW. I do tend to get a bit riled, admittedly. What we cherish most we defend most ardently, if worth our mettle. Certainly it is good to find common ground, but sometimes it’s fun (as long as everyone is enjoying the repartee) to split hairs in the pursuit of presenting Truth as we understand it. Such is why I’m so insistent on showing you the error of your ways ;)

  • Anonymous

    There are not a hundred people in America who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions of people who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic … are angels near you to guide you and protect you, if you would but invoke them.
    -Bishop Fulton Sheen

  • Carolyn Ferrante

    I was waiting for the thread to go this route…and I agree completely!

  • Tristan

    So this happened 2 years ago and it’s just being brought up now? The family and the priest are the only people giving video testimony of what they witnessed?Everyone involved let this drag on for 6 months? Aside from the mother and the grandmother where is the rest of the family said to have witnessed a girl levitate above a bed? Coincidentally Latoya Ammons was having trouble paying rent? The police Captain is a believer based on observation of the house and interviewing of witnesses although did not witness anything paranormal… Those that witnessed the paranormal aspect of this (levitation, walking up the wall backwards) aren’t accounted for. That said, walking up the wall backwards is very familiar in hollywood.

    In my opinion, this is either a hollywood hoax for an upcoming horror flick OR a church hoax to drive more ‘non-believers’ to the church in fear. Jimmy Kimmel fooled the world with a girl catching fire after a failed attempt to ‘twerk’… perhaps the church figured out a way to manipulate the world through media as well.

    But hey… who knows right. For now, I’m still a non-believer of the supernatural.

  • Tim

    Casting demons out of people was a common practice during Jesus’ ministry. Why are people acting so surprised as if evil spirits dont exist anymore? Whether or not I believe the sun exists, it will still shine.

  • Anonymous

    Farm, our espoused theologies, respectively, are not all that divergent in terms of basis for performing exorcisms. In fact, much of what you quote is encompassed in the Ritual of Exorcism used by Catholic priests – directly from Scripture. Nor am I trying to completely “sweep away” the efficacy of invoking the name of Christ for such a purpose as exorcism outside the Catholic Church. My contention invariably leads back to bearing down on the demon(s) with the fullness of the power of Christ, and insofar as I believe that this fullness of Truth was bestowed by Christ in what we now know as the Catholic Church, and insofar as you disagree with this statement, we will continue to disagree with the fullness of substance necessary for a complete exorcism.
    But to your point about no church having “a corner on truth”, I agree only in the sense that man does not hold the “patent” on Truth – such is only God’s. Rather, I believe that Christ’s Church, as endowed directly to the care of his Apostolic Successors, is the sole conveyor and caretaker of the same fullness of Truth passed on by Christ.
    Moreover, if no church has the fullness of Truth, then Christ must simply be incapable of properly conveying something absolute to mankind. The Advocate continues Christ’s work among men by protecting the Truth. Such is evident in the fact of the unchanging doctrine of the Catholic Church throughout AD history, in contrast to the 40000 denominations disseminated by the error of those who have chosen to stray from the center Christ intended for us.
    It is too bad that this impresses you as cult-like. But to contend directly against your reasoning for such a statement, I must again point out that Christ did not establish 40000 inter-contradictory “churches”. So, unless you can make a case for Christ’s ambivalence on the matter, I think it necessary to concede that the Truth is, indeed, centralized.
    Now, regarding your stab at Catholic theology, I am compelled to point out you misinterpretations. Catholics do not “earn” heaven – such is only a gift of God’s Grace, through the ultimate act of Christ’s sacrifice of atonement. We merely participate in this sacrifice, throughout our lives, ideally and in accord with the full array of graces offered by our Savior. And yes, we do believe of an indwelling of Christ (the whole triune Godhead, in fact) in our soul (and heart, if you must). We believe in spreading the Good News to the ends of the Earth and busying ourselves with the salvation of souls, while keeping our own houses in order.
    The Church is a vessel of Truth with a banquet of God’s available graces – through prayer, fasting, Sacraments, etc. To eschew “Church” is to spurn the gracious Hand of God, insofar as this is the established method by which he as chosen to deliver the tools of salvation! It’s not a matter of “moving an argument”, but rather, there is no proper argument from a Catholic perspective that does not work THROUGH the Truth of God conveyed by his Church. Anything less can very easily be personalized, and fractures ensue invariably (such as with protestant denominations).
    Anyhow, these topics can fill volumes with explanation. I hope to have represented, at the least, a basic foundation of Catholic belief upon which I base my commentary!

  • Jeffrey

    The biggest problem with religion in the world today (and throughout history) is that people will not respect other faiths or forms of praise. It’s sad that we cannot even be united as Christians. In the past such attitudes led to war and persecution both by Catholics and Protestants toward one another. Do you really think that Jesus would consider you to be a better Christian just because you attend a certain Church or worship in a certain way? I do everything that Jesus and the Bible call for me to do in my life. And the Bible is the TRUTH. Protestants only exist because the Catholic Church lost its way spiritually. However, that point and the failures of Martin Luther are irrelevant now. You are never going to bring everyone back into the Catholic Church. I’ve participated in many different kinds of worship and I believe that they are all pleasing to God. People have the ability to praise the Lord in a variety of different ways (and pick the one that they find most suitable).

    BTW, I attended Catholic school as a Protestand for four years. Beforehand, I had never even known of the tensions that still exist between Catholics and Protestands. I LOVE many elements of the Catholic Church. However, I did not like the arrogance that was exhibited toward my religious persusasion. For instance, why should I not be allowed to recieve communion, though I have accepted Christ and live by the Bible? Why should I have to go to confession? I beg God directly for forgiveness for my sins, I don’t need a priest as an intermediary. I was also baptisized in the river after accepting Christ, just as Jesus was in the Bible. To me, that is far more meaningful than being baptized as a baby. You make the decision to be baptized at an age where you know what you are doing. You make the decision to follow Christ. My priest in Catholic school considered my baptism to be illegitamate, however. Why do we consider a certain baptism to be better than another? I did not find such a logic to in any way resemble Jesus. The self-righteous are poor Christians. It’s also important to know that the Catholic Church has changed over the years in many ways. It is not the same Church it was upon its foundation. Many of its practices are not required by the Bible either. The Bible says that a life of celibacy is a blessed endeavor, yet it is not explicitly required. If priests were allowed to get married, they would not build up the urges that in my opinion have resulted in the abuse of children in the Catholic Church. Anyway, I realize that I will not change your mind, but I respect your faith and you should try to also respect others. My Church is not so different from yours. The beliefs of my Church are essentially exactly the same. Lets all try to live as Jesus would and set aside our petty differences. These type of arguments accomplish nothing in that regard.

  • Tristan

    Sounds to me you haven’t read the entire bible…

  • Anonymous

    T, I comprehend your argument, but suppose you are looking through a foggy window? What if, in fact, a lengthy process is endemic to exorcisms? What if, in fact, actions impossible in accord with earthly physics are perpetrated by the possessed, against all human comprehension? What if, in fact, it commonly takes months, and even years, for the priest to consult psychiatrists to first assume the possession is actually a psychological manifestation? There are plenty of books and official documents on the subject of exorcism, but the most explicit that I’ve read has been “An Exorcist Tells His Story” by Rome’s chief Exorcist, Gabriel Amorth. If you care to explore, I challenge you to read this book and remain a non-believer!

  • Anonymous

    Abso-freakin-lutely!

  • Anonymous

    In fact, any divergence from the Church established by Christ is automatically heretical. Sorry if this stings. It’s not about being righteous, but merely a matter of belief that an Absolute God conveys Absolute Truth absolutely, through a single, singular vessel among men, for men.

  • Anonymous

    You are hateful Stephen, but why? You are egregiously incorrect with your assumptions toward Catholic theology, so your premises skew any possibility of ensuing truth. I would engage your “concerns” directly if I thought you sincerely care for the truth of what the Catholic Church teaches on these topics, but I think that you are disingenuous.

  • Anonymous

    It is remarkable to me that this topic has opened the floodgates to an unintended dialogue. Is it possible that there is insufficient “public space” for authentic, sincere dialogue between Catholics and Protestants? Notwithstanding tempers and emotions, I sense that we are THIRSTY for a forum upon which to have such discussions!

  • Tristan

    I stay away from “what ifs”… I can counter every “what if” with a contradicting “what if”. It can go either way. I also don’t believe everything I read, especially stories that scream bias.

  • Gary Slater

    lol….right and theology prevails once again.A bunch of BS..thats all it is.as soon you will discover the truth.FAKE FAKE FAKE

  • Rob

    You prove my point. Go study up on how the books of the Bible were printed and distributed when the Catholic church ruled the world. Many people toiled by hand to spread the word of God without the benefit of the printing press, and the Catholic Church hounded them mercilessly for it.

  • livefreeordiehard

    Y’all are being flippant over something that has happened throughout history. You should always listen to all sides before making your mind up. There are many very credible people that have witnessed these types thing, but many more never disclose this because of people laughing at them.
    As far as UFO’s, do you know that Gordon Cooper and MANY other astronauts, many higher up’s in the Airforce, police, etc have witnessed them? Are they just kooks? Always find out facts before you make up your mind.

  • Anonymous

    Indifferentism is heresy unto itself. I wish everyone embraced the fullness of God’s grace made available through Tradition and Scripture, but my quest as Catholic is to spread the Good News that God has provided such a more robust arsenal than is presently in use by Protestants, because these have been rejected. Sins of men do not contract the immutability of God’s Spirit, so despite errors of MEN, God’s Spirit in protection of the doctrine and Dogma of the church remained. Fact is, there was corruption among the ranks of Catholic leadership (such as there is today, sadly), but this says nothing about doctrine. Luther had his own motives. Perhaps he was God’s punishment to the Catholic Church as a scourge. Still, though men may fall from the vessel, the vessel itself remains intact, as it will until the end of days. This is the promise of Christ – the gate’s of Hell shall not prevail against it.

  • isis5551

    Thanks for the correction. ;-)

  • lee luna

    the reason it took so long in my opinion is that Child services got involved took their children from them put them in a Hospital then gave them back, I imagine all of this took time. they also got the local Catholic archdiocese involved which they tried an exorcism and when she walk backwards up a wall it was in a hospital in front of a nurse,then also walk up the wall at their home in front of a 36 year career Officer who did a TV interview on Fox News yesterday, also a home Nurse and a social worker witnessed it and went running from the home. most likely until the state got involved there were no witnesses except the Priest that’s why we are just hearing about it now a Priest won’t go public with this but an Officer and a Nurse,social worker are not bound to any secrecy.

  • michele R

    Must be true if Glenn Beck thinks so!!! Cause he NEVER trusts poor black people!

  • isis5551

    Thank you Somekindofpatriot for sharing these videos. Much appreciated.

  • John Gallion

    lol…and why do you care so much what I or anyone else believes? I promise you I don’t lose sleep at night knowing you laugh at God. Ever hear of live and let live? Try it. You’ll live longer. As far as this case goes there are solid witnesses from police, state agents and others. You can disbelieve whatever you choose, but evil is real and not an impersonal “force” and neither is God. We live in a cosmic war zone and if you aren’t on either side you are simply “cannon fodder”. My advice to you is you’d better choose your side soon because the last war is only a few years away.

  • isis5551

    Very good advice Glenn. Thank You!
    Sincerely,
    isis5551

  • Anonymous

    my “what ifs” were rhetorical. These are statements of documented facts, especially as learned from the book I referenced therein…

  • Darkwing Dragon

    Not too sure about defying gravity, but demons, and other spirits are real. Heck! the most recent house I lived in, had a spirit. I used to not believe any of it myself. had the mindset that it`s only in the movies, and urban legends. But after living in a total of 3 homes where out of the ordinary things happen, I truley believe there are things out there we cannot explain. After doing some research, I later discovered, the last house I lived in, there was an older gentleman whome took his own life in the spare bedroom. Well that explains why every time I walked past it, i`d feel someone glaring at me like “Get away from MY room” even my family couldn`t sleep in the room. feeling you`re being watched, hearing footsteps when no one else is home. Yep spirits ARE real.

  • Anonymous

    Hello again, Farmgal. I’m not familiar with the categorization, but I want to start instead with your comment “I’m sure God did set up the Catholic Church”. I wish you would have stopped there and we could go skipping merrily through the cornfields hand in hand. Alas. The overarching argument here is that MEN make mistakes (and how!), but God does not. God, as Spirit (The Advocate, (Jn 14:16-17, 26) – 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity) is perfect. Christ passed the torch of on-Earth leadership to men, but only under the canopy of his Spirit. Hereby, the fundamental elements of Church Teaching – dogma, doctrine, etc – will always remain unscathed despite the presence of evil men inside and outside of His Church on Earth.
    You ask that I not DEFEND SO VEHEMENTLY, but it sounds like you want me to care less for objective truth. You must first understand that I believe Christ gave us his Church as a convey of Truth on Earth, such that Jesus is magnified most through His Church, of which we comprise the Body (He is the Head). Further, Christ guaranteed that the “gates of hell shall not prevail against it” (Mt 16:18) upon giving the keys to “Petra”. Sooo, we cannot separate Church from Jesus, nor History from Church – I cherish them all in proper relation and in respect for the format presented to the Apostles by Christ Himself!
    You CAN have a relationship with Christ in any Church, for sure, and I’m sure you DO. However, if Christ has truly laid before us a grand buffet of Grace upon the table of his Catholic Church, would it be sufficient merely to eat the scraps that fall? If you must encounter battle and you are given the choice of wooden sword and shield or full metal armor, which would make more sense. Christ gave us access to so much more than Protestants realize. This is not a matter of prideful exclusion. Rather, I choose to receive the Sacraments as did Catholics from the time of Peter, in unbroken succession since, while Protestants have shrugged of these immeasurable benefits in favor of sola scriptura and personalized interpretations. You are free to choose either, as was Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, Henry VIII, etc. I pray that you find your way to the ultimate sharing of Christ’s Love for us in the Eucharist, perpetuated within the Catholic Church since the last supper and in accord with the dictate of Christ Himself (Jn 6:53 – the Bread of Life Discourse). Christ, the first priest, offered the example to be followed at the Last Supper when he shared the bread and wine (his Transubstantiated Body and Blood, in perfect reflection of Jn6:53), and said “do this in memory of me”. In fact, the disciples DID this in memory of him…again and again and again, unceasingly throughout history AD, and the writings of the early Christians (later called Catholics to distinguish from heretical sects) confirm the belief in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist (the Bread).
    Ultimately, it is BECAUSE there are no perfect people that Christ wishes to bond himself to us, through prayer, but most especially in the Eucharist. We NEED Him in this way, and He understands this better than we can ever hope to!

  • Anonymous

    The exact point I and everyone else makes. If things like that are happening in that house, who in their right mind – or even close – would stay in that house? It’s bad enough to stretch credibility in a movie, for in real life? Who would leave their kids in a situation like that if it’s real? Nobody! Nobody with a working brain, anyway.

  • Chris Kaser

    Abraham lost an infant child and he said and he said he had the hope of seeing that baby again.

  • carpenter1777

    this is all to real and you can laugh about it all you want but the only way this will not affect you is if you are saved only Jesus can protect you from this

  • carpenter1777

    If you read the bible you will understand it if you hear the bible you will understand it God will make sure of that

  • carpenter1777

    Jesus also says you do error not knowing the scriptures so you need to read the bible but that will not keep you from heaven

  • Milo Minderbinder

    Nothing that a good beating won’t fix.

  • Dianna Hamilton

    You are so right, I can relate to this my self although I did not see it happen but I was awoke by my husband that it happen to, he was petrifed. Satan is real. He told me everything to what happen and I believe it. God did not allow me to be a part of what he was experiencing, because it was not for me but for him and to teach a lesson to him, although it didn’t teach him a lesson and we have been divorced for 25 years it was a witness to me and for me to finally make the descision to leave and I thank God I did. I have experiencd the love of God and also Satan is real. I have been so blessed to know the difference. It is very important to get knowledge of God so you can fight off the evil forces… Put on the shield of God, His Holy Word to protect you..

  • Dianna Hamilton

    God said unless we become like little children we can not enter into His Kingdom. I believe those who are mentally handicapped are like little children they are humble before God therefore they already have a place in His Kingdom.

  • Anonymous

    Bert, I did not mean to be imply that Catholicism is a man-made religion. What I meant was I don’t see (in my Bible anyway) that one church is better or more superior to another form of worship. All churches, all denominations, that lead to Christ, that point the way to salvation through Christ should be called “Christian” regardless of whether they are Baptist, Catholic, Episcopalian, Lutheran, et al. I mean do disrespect for any religion and I am far from feeling that any religion (including my own) is better than another. Jesus never mentioned any one particular church and while he did say “You are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church.” I personally think there are other interpretations that don’t necessarily agree that this meant a “Catholic” church. NOT that there is anything wrong with the Catholic church, nor is it man made, just that all churches, all churches, have actions associated with them that are decisions made by men and not found in the Bible. Some good, some, not so much. I did choose the wrong wording and I can see where someone could think I meant disrespect. None was meant and I apologize for any offence anyone took away from my question..

  • Tanner

    I’m afraid I can’t really develop a personal opinion on this story, but Glenn it is possible. I’ve witnessed firsthand the casting out of demons and while I’ve never seen any of the levitating or violent physical outbursts, I can personally account for the speaking in other, oftentimes deeper, voices and the “evil” grinning. Consider the possessed man referenced in Matthew 5:1-20 who showed considerable physical qualities that so frequently are associated with a demoniac. He broke the chains every time he was bound and there was no man strong enough to subdue him. Anyway, it’s real, it can happen to people, but thank God that there is deliverance!

  • MZ

    Some of you are really giving us a wacky bad name… You here for the news or to see who can cut and paste more scripture? And whose been satanically abused by there parents? NO one I know. Worse than Ventura I swear.

  • MZ

    Duuude… There’s one of you in every generation. Dark awakening? Like 2012? or Y2K? or the billion other end of days theories that pop up throughout history? You hurt conservatism. Leave peoples souls in their own hands along with their freedom.

  • Anonymous

    I am not even close to understanding what you just wrote but what I explained to Bert above, who felt I was implying that Catholic churches are a “man-made” religion, was simply not coming up with the correct wording for what I was trying to convey. There was so much anti/pro Catholic debate going on here, that what I was trying (poorly) to say was I wasn’t interested in THAT debate. I just had a simple question (I thought) and you answered that perfectly below. I am not indifferent, I just don’t believe any church that has Christ and His teaching at it’s center, that follows the Bible, that encourages repentance, acceptance and a true desire to have God in your life should be considered any less Christian than any other church. I don’t feel, any church is better or worse than any other church. I would say that I feel someone like Billy Graham is just as much a disciple of Jesus as the Pope (except that will probably bring half a million people to my house with pitchforks and flaming torches!). Billy Graham is a Baptist. Nothing really wrong with that and I believe that Jesus uses Billy Graham and his message just as effectively as he did Pope John Paul (who, while I am Episcopalian, thoroughly loved). I meant no disrespect and I apologize if anyone felt I was.

  • fire lion

    satanic abuse has been completely debunked by every agency known to man. Satanic abuse conspiracy was part of the white conservative backlash that began in the early 70′s.

  • FTMXDM40

    I didn’t mean to sound pleasant. You are saying my church is Satanic among other wonderful descriptions. I take great offence to that and I am not ashamed.

  • FTMXDM40

    Because the so called “reborns” are so sanctimonius. They look down upon Catholics. They are such great Christians! You can tell when they talk about religion with us. How we are sooo wrong. They think their crap doesn’t stink.

  • Carole

    This is very dangerous for all concerned! The devil and his demons are very real and are manifesting more and more in these end times before the Lord Jesus comes to rule and reign from Jerusalem! He knows his time is short and will try to do as much damage on the earth before he is thrown into the pit for a thousand years along with his demons! You need to study this from the Bible! It`s all there and important for people to know what is happening now! Prophecy is being fulfilled!

  • Anonymous

    I may not agree with everything you’ve said, but… I agree with this.

  • Greg Lutz

    The child had a rare case of LRS, ( Lionel Richie syndrome ) ooh what a feeling when I’m dancing on the ceiling!!!!

  • Anonymous

    You make my point. We as Catholics don’t seek a man-made solution. Our Church was -not- “formed by man,” unlike all the 40,000 denominations that followed 1500 years later. I’ve been Catholic for 26 years now, after being Protestant for the first 23. In all my 26 years as a Catholic, I have never (NEVER) witnessed a Catholic verbally attack a Protestant, but I have witnessed, and been on the receiving end of, hundreds of attacks of verbal bashing by Protestants. I hardly think the bashing of the Church He Himself established would make God happy.

  • Anonymous

    ??? Can you point out exactly where vdestefa, or ANY Catholic, has implied your church is satanic? Quite the contrary – you can read through this thread and see several such assertions against the Catholic Church by Protestants.

  • Owen Marshall

    Demons have been troubling mankind since before biblical times. Certainly since Biblical times, as the Bible makes no secret that Jesus cast demons out of people who were afflicted. The presence of demons (unclean spirits aligned with Satan bent on man’s destruction) and the historic record of Jesus demonstrating he had the authority and the power to cast them out of their victims, is more overwhelming evidence that since demons are real, it reinforces the logic that angels are also real, therefore God is very real, and Satan is very real.

  • Owen Marshall

    Scrape the rust off your imagination. If you saw the things described with your own eyes, and felt the fear when the hair on the back of your neck stood up. Would you then believe?

  • Owen Marshall

    ‘eye of a needle’, and the reference is to a ‘rich man’ not ‘a man’. And you left out the most important part of Jesus’ quote, which was “but with God all things are possible”.

  • Anonymous

    Thought I saw demons at the State of the Union.

  • Owen Marshall

    Yeah sure. The power of suggestion allows kids to defy gravity. Walking up walls backwards is easy right Trish? Just suggest it to the next kid you see, he’ll be doing the moon walk up walls in no time.

  • lee luna

    perhaps they can exorcise the Chief of Demons Barrack Beelzebub/

  • jenoaks

    I agree with you, John. All this collective evil happening in our society is what’s reinforcing such demonic activities. I pray that more people will overcome their sins and seek God’s mercy and forgiveness. Jesus is the ONLY way to salvation. If you have Him, then you have nothing to fear. 1John 4:4– “Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”

  • Amber Rayburn

    Amen!!! Michael Murphy Best comment yet!

  • David Dechent

    This type of discussion is probably what split the Church in the first place. You can go back and forth all day. I beg of you all: Stop arguing and go spread the Word. The Lord has compassion for us. He loves us and He loves all of us equally.God knows who has accepted Him and who has rejected Him. There is no need to rationalize or to worry about who is going to Heaven and who isn’t. That isn’t part of our job description, if you will, from God. God did, however, ask us to go and make disciples and to baptize them with the Holy Spirit.

  • David Dechent

    It pleases me to know that your family member has been freed from those chains and bondage. If I may: Keep your double edged sword ready (God’s word: see Revelation). Satan will try to hurt you, but even that monster must flee before God and His Word. May God pour His Blessings over you and your household in abundance until the cup runneth over.

  • Anonymous

    The exorcism wont hurt but that family isn’t dealing with anything demonic. Demons can’t touch religious items, especially ones that have ever been blessed. The item they witnessed being thrown was not only the image of the Holy Family, it was a Holy Water receptacle. The water had been blessed, the blessing doesn’t just disappear when the water is gone. Blessings are permanent. I think what might be going on is a previous home owner, who may not be aware they’re dead, not wanting to share their home. They need to find out who has lived there before, who died from there, or in there.

    When I was a little girl we had an old family that owned a home on the 40th block and had a mom and pop type grocery store on the 38th, two doors down form us. They didn’t like people who didn’t look like them, didn’t like certain changes in laws and rights. (Yes, they were racist. They didn’t think I was really Polish even though they knew my Grandmother.) The old man in particular didn’t really like anyone outside of his family. When he died, the sisters sold the store building. An African American couple with a little girl bought the store, opened a knickknack kind of store. Very few people would go to the store, it cheeped out everyone. You would see eyes in the window where no one was standing. Things would fall down and break regularly in the store. The building finally burned down after about two years. The family had gone out of town for the weekend, the fire started the day after they’ed left. Luckily their dog was able to be saved. No eccelorent was found, no explanation as to what happened.(I hate spell check.) It was a total loss. Only half a wall was standing when they finally got it out.

  • David Dechent

    I just want to make a point that the forty thousand different denominations did not occur because of Martin Luther. It was because after Martin Luther, more than forty thousand people got access to the Bible. God made us all unique and so each one of us gets something different out of it. Case and point: Why do you keep re-reading the Bible? Because you will… get something new out of it. Aha! It’s the Book that keeps on giving, is it not? I am not anti-Catholic nor any other denomination. I believe that if and only if you confess with your mouth (out loud) and believe with your heart that Jesus is Lord and not deny Him before your peers, then He will accept you and step in and speak up for you so that you may accept the Salvation that He died for. Now, there are about 80 million different ways to write what I said. I really believe that if you look at the different interpretations, it is most likely the same information with different wording and a different focus as the main point. I completely agree with you: the Church needs to stop attacking each other and start building each other up. I am not perfect in any way, and I may have said some things that were offensive, but it was not my intention. I think that some of the tension between different children of God is that some use other texts than just the Bible. I’m not saying that is right or wrong, but when you have people who believe other things in addition or in subtraction to what you believe, you are not on the same page. It’s going to create at least a bit of a problem if you expect the other person to believe anything more or less than what they believe. I hope that what I am saying is not merely another comment on the page, but something that might make an impact and help at least one other person gain some compassion for another brother or sister in Christ. God did not send His son to die for us for us to merely turn around and tear each other apart.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t be much worse then what we have now. At least demons go away when you invoke the name of Jesus. They don’t have you thrown prison.

  • Anonymous

    Ghosts are not demons. They are people for whatever reason haven’t gone on yet. Maybe that’s purgatory.

  • Anonymous
  • Jeremy Fosnow

    What you state, and I believe, is not an opinion. The bible clearly states that no one comes unto the Father except through the Son. The ONLY requisite to eternal life in the presence of God is to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and savior. In my previous statement, I was referring to the many people who were criticizing Ray’s statement that people need knowledge found in the bible to overcome evil. It said nothing of salvation, and neither did my previous post.

  • Anonymous

    Again, It would seem to me that if recruiting souls for hell or the Devil’s bidding, a soul is a soul, where they come from or what their mental construct of reality is really has no bearing. Especially because witnessing demonic possession has the opposite effect. Yes, the individual may be weened from God, but.. If anything, providing evidence of demonic possession to mankind is a backward way of proving God’s existence.. which definitely does not suit Satan’s purpose. If you take a thousand hardcore logical Atheists and really *prove* to them that demonic possession exists, thus by logic, God must exist, I guarantee that very very few will decide to worship evil.

    So, if demonic possession, in essence, scares people straight.. then why would Satan employ it so obviously?

  • Michael Murphy

    Thank you it was god inspired

  • ckerofturh

    Umm, actually you would be correct the other way around,… demons are ghosts, trying to deceive the living into anything but the TRUTH that is in Christ Jesus!! Also scripture reads that the living know that they will die and the dead know nothing

  • Jeffrey

    Heresy? I find it hard to believe that Jesus would favor some of his followers over others. How can you be sure that God didn’t want (or even have a hand in) the creation of new forms of worship? You cannot possibly know God’s plan. In any case, to suggest that you attend the only true Church does not do anything to bring in new members. In fact, if it wasn’t for the disrespect of Catholics toward those of the same Christian faith, I would probably have considered becoming Catholic long ago. In my experience, Protestant Churches have never exhibited these same negative attitudes or made other Churches a focus. As a Christian, I follow the teachings of Jesus, the Ten Commandments, and the rest of the Bible. I am devoted to peace, love, and charity as God commands, as I’m sure you are. Yet you believe that because of a few petty differences in organization, your Church is somehow superior? You fail to realize that it’s not about that. It’s about what we do outside of Church that truly matters to God. Loving your neighbor as yourself. Helping the poor. Spreading the good news of Christianity, not a message of division. And you’ll forgive me for saying so, but I find it hard to believe that you were ever a Protestant. You sound like a Catholic from birth. You NEED to do research on the evolution of the Catholic Church and how MANY of its rules have been made by men and in fact contradict the teachings of the Bible. Also, my current preacher is a woman and she is easily the best preacher I have ever heard. She is amazing! I just want unity my friend, that is all. I love Catholic services!

  • Fat Lip

    Thank you Owen I new where I was going with my comment but couldn’t get it in my head correctly got the flu brain is working about 40% thanx again bless you

  • Randy Wilson

    Number one. You can’t “invite” Christ into your heart. He does NOT enter a sewer. Number two, faith alone, in Christ alone is salvation. You can’t add works of any kind to salvation. Not raising your hands, crying tears of repentance, walking an isle, etc. Faith alone. Belief in Christ only. After salvation you decide to be a winner, or a loser Christian. Heaven will be full of high awards given, clear down to no awards given. Lots of inequality in Heaven. Number three, people with real low IQ’s automatically enter Heaven, just like children. End of discussion. Christians are the sole reason, the U. S. is failing. No true knowledge of God’s divine word.

  • Anonymous

    The police depts all around America does nothing about the “too big to fail” bankers, get rich scams, but let a person be suspected, and they are scrutinized by the cops. Hmmm interesting isn’t it?

  • TK

    all I want is to see documentation of the “Witness” claims…I mean it would have to be documented and stored somewhere right?

  • James Peight

    PTL there is a power greater than any demon !!

  • Wynne

    “Constantine demanded that they all come together and agree on a common belief. The various bodies were in such disagreement that small wars and murders were committed, but eventually a common context was agreed upon.”
    Where is America’s Constantine?
    A common context MUST be agreed upon- and quickly! Emphasis on *agreed* (not ordered executively).
    Our common belief must be LIBERTY,
    an individual’s freedom to rule over his or her own body and mind in the way “seen fit,” without harming or bringing evil on another individual (live and let live).
    An important part of maintaining a culture of liberty is to also commonly agree that liberty requires that no one individual, or group of individuals, attempt to FORCE their personal beliefs on others. This is why we are the UNITED STATES, with endless potential, a magnificent patchwork-quilt of ideas and experiments. States can learn from each other’s achievements and mistakes: One ill-conceived or ill-intentioned law will not negatively effect the whole country. If you were struggling for survival in the woods and found something that could potentially be food or poison, would you first eat just a little, or devour the whole thing?
    The idea of SOVEREIGNTY is something that should be held closely alongside liberty in our nation’s grasp. For if we cannot protect the lands that make up this country that we call HOME, how can we expect to remain here and live freely, indefinitely?
    Jesus spoke of how the body is made up of many parts, each one important to the whole. So, we cannot ALL continue to be ASSES forever. SOMEBODY has got to start talking REAL, loud enough for all to hear. The message: We want to be FREE to PURSUE the TRUTH.
    It’s as simple as that, and always has been.

  • Anonymous

    Evil does exist, there are demon posessed people all around us. People invite this into there lives by using weggie boards and practiing witchcraft. There are also people that worship satan and they have makeshift alters in there homes. They do sacrafices human and other. This story doesn’t surprise me one bit. It happen more then you think. Don’t dabble and experiment with evil spirits you open yourself up to satan himself.

  • So you say

    With all the phone video cams in existence and not ONE caught any of the alleged “paranormal activity” ??

    I saw where one person said the blinds “oozed” a mysterious substance.

    Ahhhhhhhhhh, on an “Inside Edition” segment on this story, the mother said SHE had put oil on the blinds to fend off the demons. I have no doubbt that that was the mysterious “oozing ” substance.

  • Anonymous

    the enemy will use any tactic to trick the mind. we must go back to god
    pray to him. put on the whole armor of god. so we can fight satans armies. yes people need Jesus.

  • Stefan Thalen

    Glenn, I have seen some of these things myself as I have helped people be set free from oppressing spirits that torments and accuses them.
    One of the most beautiful things is when the spirits have been evicted, and the love of God fills them and you see the change physically, spiritually and emotionally in the person, as the Fathers love fills in the areas where evil once resided!
    Jesus told us ( if we follow Him) that we have authority to do the things He did, but most Christians are afraid to face and battle demons that torment people, because they don’t know who they are in Christ Who gives us all we need to defeat evil!
    I’d love to chat with you about it, and it’s a passion and a calling of mine to help set people free!
    I’m just a regular guy, who goes to work and sets diamonds by day, and casts out demons at night! (Sorry, couldn’t resist) And my power and authority power comes from Jesus!
    Yay God!
    P.S. If you like to see some sessions on people getting free, let me know!

  • Anonymous

    I am trying to discover a life of availability and obedience, but I still have some vile interests. I want to surrender my life to Christ completely. Could you contact me, I would like to have someone to pray with. Please.

  • Al Bumen

    The morality, liberty, and prosperity of a free country run contrary to the subjective decrees of the “interests of society” put forth by those quacks, charlatans, and academics who conjure up the ever-shifting mirage of collectivist illusions.

  • grinch

    The interesting thing is my lack of belief in God or anything supernatural somehow protects me from things like this.

  • grinch

    Lots of people have witnessed these things, but nobody can actually prove it beyond that. Are they just kooks? Yes they are.

  • Patty Lynn Bugger-Partida

    i live 20 min from the house..its all over the news and ive been keeping tabs on all the info..this is the real deal..not only did the dr see the boy walk up the wall and do a flip but also a cps worker and a psychologist!this happened at the hospital after the family dr saw the boy thrown acorss his examining room with no one near him!the nurse was so firghtened at the drs office she refused to go back inside…many eye witnesses to the growling choking of one brother from the other brother saying you are going to die..it took 3 adults to pry the hands of the 9 yr old boy off of the 7 yr old!i read the actual cps report online…and for a ctholic priest to get an exorcism oks by the catholic church is a big deal..for the church to do it you need a lot of evidence…police refuse to enter the house and the chief of police heard on his radio get out of here..hen his car set startin going back and forth on its own after a visit..the mechanic said he could have died..it did it on its own after the chief had been at the house..i feel sorry for the skeptics because like the exorcist which was also a real possesion this is as well!

  • Patty Lynn Bugger-Partida

    and before u comment on my typos i have arthritic hands ok!

  • Stan Patton

    Ghost Hunter shows are fabricated. Crew members have talked about working on those shows.

    This story is probably also a hoax.

    I’m a Christian, but we need to have a filter of skepticism about this stuff until its SHOWN and DEMONSTRATED. I see a bunch of words. Where’s the photos? Where’s the video? Are camera phones a novelty where they live?

    Following Jesus Christ 100% means using 100% of yourself, including your heart, soul, and MIND, in service of the Kingdom, and not chasing after ghosts and demons whenever a claim is made by fallen humans, who can and DO get together and fabricate stories and make up hoaxes for attention and money.

  • mabel

    my name is valie i am from USA, florida so i am given a testimony of a witch dr who helped me when i was been possesed by an evil spirit and now am free due to his wonderful work he has done in my life and now am free from any obstacles due to his mystic power that helped me so if in any case you are having similar problems or having any problems i want you to email him now for help okay dragbadilaguspelltemple@gmail.com or visit his website at http://dr-agbadi-home-of-solution.webs.com/

  • Pandora Brinker

    - I Agree.
    No Longer Being A Trinitarian Protestant Of
    The Re-Form-Mation Of Catholic (church) Doctrine.

  • Pandora Brinker

    - Some Of Us Are No Longer Protestants Of
    The Re-Form-Mation Of Catholic (church) Doctrine.

    How Did We Break Away To Become Truly Non-Denominational ?

    By Renouncing The Catholic’s Trinity Doctrine As A Falsehood.

  • Harry Davidson

    I have seen this first hand in the slums where the people from central American lived. They were into every evil thing you can think of Voodoo. If you have never experience it you have something to experience. It will give you goose bumps on top of goose bumps you soul will shake. If demons can possess pigs in the Bible they can possess people no matter if they are smart or restarted. These poor people are defenseless as they do not have the knowledge of Gods word to defend themselves. For a person to sin they have to know right from wrong a Christian sins when they do something and it’s not of faith. ” For he that does it and does it not in faith to him it is a sin.” This is just one of the stories that we have heard about but there are many out there. Liberalism stop and think everything that they stand for is against Gods word. Have you notice that all those who have went into places and killed the little children were either Liberals or came from Liberal families. Most conservatives are people with strong religious beliefs. Demons can not possess them but with the evil non Christian believes of a liberal they are setting ducks. A Liberal does not believe in “Thou shalt murder” Liberals kill million of babies, conservatives as a hold are pro – life because of this. The Liberals rule in the White House and Senate and look at what we have. Lies after lies and who is the father of a lie Satan and corruption runs wild through out the government why because Liberals that are controlled and used to farther the deeds of the one they serve.

  • Harry Davidson

    Sorry my friend but you have been watching to much TV. When a person dies they don’t come back. The bible tells us as a tree falls that so shall it lie. You die a sinner you stay a sinner you die a believer you stay a believer. Remember a demon lives for ever and can take on the forms of anyone they choose to deceive. Ghost, unclean spirit, demon all the same my friend.

  • Harry Davidson

    You are so right Stan they are a fake as a three dolor bill. It is very deceptive at what they do stop and think. They put on this show than reveal that it is fake. No people don’t believe in it so now the Satan can have a free field at mankind because now he has deceived them. Everyday of you life when you go out into this world you are going to meet people that are influenced by one of two spiritual forces. Satan or God there is no neutral ground in life. I worked in a parts room for 20 years and had hundreds of people come to my window and I could tell in seconds who I was dealing with. They would gather around my window and go on with their filth and perversion and the look at me and laugh. I walk over turn my CD player on to the song Are you washed in the Blood and with in 30 seconds I was the only one there. We shall know them by the fruits they bear. If someone came to my window and stood there and got this glow on their face and smile I knew I was talking to another believer.

  • Harry Davidson

    Lepanto I don’t need a gadget I can feel the evil in my spirit within a minute of being around someone who has a evil spirit with them. I could tell you some hair raising stories.

  • Harry Davidson

    The Apostle Paul said it all ” for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness in High places of authority. Doesn’t matter what the name is we stick to this evil. So to get them all just call them Liberals. They stand for everything that God hates so I don’t think they are on his side.

  • Harry Davidson

    By your reasoning then there is no Satan and if no Satan then No God. That would make you an athirst. As a free person to make you choice as to what you believe and not even the God that you deny can’t change you mind. But my friend there are always consequences that comes with the choices that we make. You’ve made you I hope you can live forever with it. Satan is real I use to belong to him, did his evil bidding. I was his dog to be abused mistreated and hated. Then one day I have a personal experience with Yeshua (Jesus) life has never been more beautiful. I have hope of eternal life, what do you have? I have seen the works of Satan first hand and there is nothing and no one that will ever be able to change what I saw, what I heard. Satan hates you God love you now which one do you want to serve the choices is yours. Friend.

  • Harry Davidson

    Jenoaks God has blessed you with wisdom and knowledge I pray that you keep sharing you faith. You will have many stars in you crown of life some day. God Bless

  • Harry Davidson

    Very well said John I to believe that the time is close very close. There is not much or if any difference now and in the days of Noah or Lot. 2Thess. states there is going to be a great falling away. In Hebrew that words has two meanings. One a falling away and the other a gathering out. I believe that both will happen at the same time just look at today. Those that believe are getting ready and those that don’t are going father away. Again it states that judgment begins at the house of God, that’s you and me not a building for Jesus dwells in us for we are his body. Remember our Lord’s warning of wolves in sheep clothing. Know you Bible.

  • Harry Davidson

    Karen the things of this world like Harry Potter are gates through which these demons have access to a person soul. People that get involved with these things become victims of Satan’s devices. By removing all the things from you house that Satan could use to enter in for by using them you are giving him permission to come it. Then you can repeat the words that Jesus told him, You have nothing in me.

  • Harry Davidson

    Paul I perceive that you are new to the Christian way. Let me help a little bit that will give you knowledge and stronger. First of all there is no difference between you now and when you were a sinner. You still have the habits that you had then but you did not learn them all at once. Being save does not mean you are perfect just forgiven of those sins. Study the word, pray for knowledge and wisdom and for the Holy Spirit to dwell in you and He will teach you. When you first rode a bike you fell off you got back up and tried it again and finally you could ride and not fall. You are going to make mistakes but that is what repentance is for when you fall you get on you knees repent and you off again. As long as you are trying to live Right God will help you do it you can not fall down climbing up. The bible tells us the bring all thing into subjection to the word of God. God will not make you have to do it yourself. Obedience is not always fun to do but he said to and you do it don’t pay any attention to your feelings that is Satan’s play ground. Make deliberate decisions based on his words not what you feel and just do them. Each time you conquer one of these weakness it will slowly lost it’s grip and you will grown from a bicycle in the Lord to a Harley Davidson in the Holy Spirit. We are not perfect and can never be perfect only one is perfect and that is God. We can though be complete in him by the blood of his son.

  • Harry Davidson

    David I would like to tell you of something that the Lord taught me. I was in a church where they were forever binding Satan. They had very little time for God. It was always binding Satan on the homes, cars, money and all the time he was laughing at them ignorance. When The Son of God was put on the cross He defeated Satan. Took all his power except the power of deception. He would like to make us think he has power that he does not have. He is a phony. When you know who you, what you are, and what you can do through the Name of Jesus you are one tough Rambo when it come to Satan. Doesn’t the Bible tells us that one believe can put a 1000 demons to flight. They are scared to death of a Holy Spirit filled person. The more we conform to his word the stronger we will be. As when the disciple walked down the streets and their shadows healed people they were so full of power in the Holy Spirit. When they walked the demons ran the other way in a mass exit. We are worries with armor so suit up, pray up and lets get to work.