As a retired (never really btw) thanks. But Glenn, do you realize that in the bigger cities half of the people don’t even know where their food is coming from? Most likely the answer would be “the grocery store” or the “government” and there is your answer.

Well I wish more people did. This country could use a lesson in what hard work is like.

What difference does it make? We connect with the farmers every time we shop. What we don’t connect with is the hard work that goes into making a few cents per item.

Sorry, but I grew up a farm and could not wait to leave it. It was a dull life, and you were totally dependent upon the elements. If the weather was good you might get a good crop if the insects didn’t eat it, but so did everyone else and the prices were low. If the weather was bad (dry usually where I was), the prices were better, but you had nothing to sell. My father came to the conclusion that gambling at a casino was better. At least you learned what the results were going to be quicker and with less physical effort.

Close the stores for a week, fast food places for a week, see how long the numb-numbs would last. The idiots would starve in a garden full of food. No loss there.

Working outside is unbelievably rewarding. Knowing that it’s important work should motivate any person to farm. I didn’t grow up on a farm but I’ve occasionally done odd jobs for relatives on farms and have mowed lawn, worked in gardens, and other various manual labor. Not everybody thinks like me, and more power to them, but I really have never loved any form of labor more than that which made me sweat and was outside in the elements. I love the farmer and I thank all farmers for the vital role they play in society. If you’ve ever done a day of back breaking work, there is nothing like a cold beer at the end of the day. That’s a moment that only the down to earth know how to cherish.

Wow, Glenn, if I want a sermon, I can attend to one of those televangelists, there are so many of them. You seem to be telling us how to live rightfully. Maybe your goal is a farm, but for most people it is not. If one lives by the golden rule, one will attain the golden gates. It is as simple as that. But, please don’t tell pople how they should live, nor what they should believe in. The luckiest person on this earth is one with a clear conscience and peace in his/her heart. Such a person is free. Are you free? Do you keep a security entourage at all times? Why? Are you not living off other people?

That’s right Glenn, fear Skynet. Retard.

There are probably more people who understand farm work these days than there were when most of the country was rural. Reason being not only are there regular farm type farms around but in the cities loads of people have gardens either the way it usually is or else container gardens. There are vacant lots that have ben turned into urban farms where people in the neighborhoods plant and take care of crops. Meaning the small farm is not only a place people can work in the dirt and help raise food for themselves and their families but also have a social meeting place to gather in. There are also lots of restaurants that have rooftop gardens they can take fresh food from. Who knows how many vertical farms there are in cities but indoor farming is supposed to be getting trendy. Yeah, computers and artificial intelligence is around and people are interacting with machines like never before but there is a strong DIY movement taking place in America

The country was built on agriculture — it was a necessity for survival. Bread Basket of the world. With industries came large cities and the personal dependance on agriculture decreased. We became someone else. We became a people who imports thousands of tons of wheat and wheat gluten from Russia and China.

What on Earth are we doing?

0.7% of the population is working in the farming, fishing and forestry industries. Our modes of production has changed, that is why our computers are becoming more anthropomorphic, and humans less human. That is an epiphenomenon [another fancy word, look this up too Glenn] of capitalism. We have to learn to live with it.

We used to export wheat to the USSR

You’re missing the broader point.

If we assume that God made us in his image, then that is of the hunter-gatherer – farming arrived much later. But I guess a folksy homily on hunter-gatherers was too much of a stretch.

Somebody seriously needs to make real BeckBot. All you have to do is throw in every lame cliche that you’ve ever heard in your life and switch them up at random with no context.
No joke. There’s nothing more to it than that.
Except,of course, asking for money

Glenn’s sermon about happiness is true, but a little grammar school preachy for me. Sew, harvest and end-times are classic televangelist buzzwords. If you want to know how insignificant people are in the grand scheme, read Stephen Hawking.

Hard work and knowing where things come from because you’re putting in the work it takes to figure out how to do whatever needs to be done, right? If people want to adapt to changes they need to figure out whether they want to win with inner strength or lose by listening to people who will teach them how to admit defeat before they even get started. Most of the people who talk about admiting defeat are radio talk hosts. Not necessarily Glenn all the time but most of the others.Adapting to constant technological and political change in order to stay ahead of changes in climate would have to make farmers the most forward thinking people on the planet. You KNOW that’s not true.

Unfortunately, you do not only reap what you sow, but you also reap what OTHERS have sown as well–both literally and figuratively. If the farmer in the next field over plants weeds in his own field, those seeds will propagate to your field, and if he plants a genetically modified version of your crop, it may cross-pollinate with your crops and alter them.

Glenn is being metaphoric here in that he is speaking of the “Law of the Harvest”: You reap what you sow–and you always get back more of what you plant. Glenn even STATES this outright.

Ummm…on average, people work harder in the United States than in any other country except JAPAN. We are constantly battling for the number one slot for number of hours worked per capita. We work longer hours, take fewer breaks, work through sickness, rarely ever vacation, and even suspend retirement, .

Do we have some lazy people–YES. But most of us in America are WORKAHOLICS who will drive ourselves to self-destruction. Even farmers had enough sense to stop working after sundown. We sometimes go so far as to NOT SLEEP; we keep ourselves running on caffeine and adrenalin until we pass out from exhaustion.

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“Hard work and knowing ….even get started.” Yes – that is it – part of it anyway.
I can’t speak to what you said about “Most of the people who talk about admiting defeat are radio talk hosts” as I don’t listen to the radio.

People definitely will have to be adaptable, creative, somewhat inventive, and good problem solvers.

Actually, most of the people I know who are in agriculture are really quite forward thinking – as much as can be considering the parameters within which they must work. They have had to be to produce the quantity and quality they must to stay in the ‘business’ and remain competitive. They have innovated and modernized. If you were to compare the typical milking parlor now to what it was 70 years ago you would be impressed, the same with machines used to sow and harvest. There are some now in aquaculture as well (don’t put all your eggs in one basket? LOL). Then there is always the possibility that land use will have to adjust.

With the heightened awareness lately concerning weather patterns, commodities grown (shift of use to corn-ethynol), crop failures etc. more people seem to be getting into gardening – mostly in a very small way, but possibly enough so they can supplement what they can purchase in a meaningful amount, or barter for what they can’t. Most of the many little family farms that dotted the countryside have been turned into housing developments.

Bartering is something that will be important, as not everyone can farm enough to be self sustaining, but may have something else they can do to be part of the ‘system’… what Glenn talks about re knowing what it is you do that you do well, because that is who you are…. Unfortunately Uncle Sam has his nose in that to collect his piece of your blood sweat and tears too.

Oh, nothing wrong with Uncle Sam getting something out of it. Business is business after all. It’s good to hear that lots of farm people are getting into vertical farming and aquaculture. From the comments I see on this site, Glenn talking up outdoor land farms and hearing callers to talk radio it sure looks like Conservative audiences (mostly small town and rural people)are mostly interested in having life stay the same as it always has been. It’s sad-making since they will be the ones who will be completely unprepared for whatever changes get made in the world. Yeah, Glenn is beginning to let his viewers and listeners in on learning how to be a winner since the American changeover is inevitable but in a way he’s still into the us vs. them mentality. Wish he wasn’t. Hope that changes. It’ll mean giving up his audience but that’s okay. he’ll attract people who want to hear what he has to say. Maybe instead of trying to tailor my comments to the audience and get hated for it I’ll get back to saying what I believe just the way I do in my blog. Because now Glenn and I think alike a lot more of the time. If he was always holding back because of sticking to talking points that Conservative audiences understand it’s good he’s becoming himself.

Sorry, I disagree. If I trade my labor for someone elses labor – no tax. Tax is supposed to be on income received, not a mans labor. If there is equal trade it is a wash anyway.

What do you see as the “American changeover?”

People trade their time for money now so trading labor probably isn’t much different. The American changeover will be people getting into cooperative capitalism instead of competitive capitalism so we can get more done. Also, the idea that money with be changed and religion will be more of a person’s private belief as well as the way life will be more inclusive for more groups of people means everyone will actually be more free and independent than they are now, not less. Right now there is freedom through fear. But with government and the public working together everyone will be stronger. It’ll be freedom through responsibility.

Since liberty can only offer a history of proven success, along with supporting facts and logic, we must always be on guard against those who attack it in the name of this, that, or the other superstition du jour.

Trading labor is different.
“The American changeover will be people getting into cooperative
capitalism instead of competitive capitalism so we can get more done” – that is an erroneous assumption.

I have to chuckle – what you are presenting is not progressive, it goes back to the ‘olde ways’. The new version – the hippie commune of the 60s was a temporary liberal idea that failed because it doesn’t work, just like it didn’t work when the colonists first came here – they nearly died from Socialism/Communism.

Where did you get this stuff Colorado? Washington?? LOL

Yes, the colonists nearly died but that was when they thought they could be on their own. It was native American land, the natives knew how to live off of it. The settlers figured out they needed to go to them for help in learning how to deal with everything. Once they decided they didn’t feel like dying anymore, that is. Regarding “hippie” communes, yeah those didn’t work in their original form. But communes are alive and well, thank you very much. Instead of people who live in them having self-conscious pretentiousness the way things were in the sixties the communes have blended into society as just another living arrangement. The idea is the same as it was back in those days of families and unrelated people living in the same space and sharing everything but instead of calling those places communes they go by all kinds of names. The most common being “intentional living”. Like minded people get together as an extended family and share everything. They work regular jobs and don’t call attention to themselves but they live differently than most people. They are all kinds of intentional living spaces all over America and the world. Why not look them up, there is an online database or two. You might find one where you live. Where did I get these ideas? Not from Colorado or Washington. There are at least two places that I know of right here in Chicago. One is only a couple of miles from where I live. It’s called Reba House and is a Catholic commune.

The colonists nearly died because the system doesn’t work. It was set up by the king, and when he found that it wouldn’t work, he gave everyone their own parcel of land and made them each be self sufficient.That’s when they each performed so well that they had an abundance. You really need to do a little research and learn the REAL history of this country.

Your knowledge of American communes is severely lacking…. and FOS. Do some research about the Amish, Hutterites etc. They are of a communal nature, but they are very conservative, not leftsts or ‘progressives’

If my knowledge is lacking then please excuse me for asking a really stupid question. The colonists didn’ t know how to grow food or even do much of anything else when they were together as a group. So how exactly would they be ANY smarter about how to do things on their own property? Seems like being on their own would have them die more quickly and without a support system. Someone had to have the idea that the natives who had lived as a group for tons of years before the colonists even arrived would know how to do things. That was the whole idea behind including the Indians in the first Thanksgiving. Nobody invited them out of the goodness of their hearts, they would have had to give invitations to all the tribes in the area. They owed the people who helped them out so it was a thank you gift. I heard that the colonists eventually got their own land because some people were taking advantage of the people who had better luck than they did. Giving people their own land was supposed to take care of jealousy and stealing. You can see the outcome of THAT idea.

Correction, the colonists DID know how to grow food and hunt. They didn’t give a substantial effort as they felt they could live off the others in their group and shipments from their mother land. They were more interested in gold and other things. Unfortunately for them – they all had pretty much the same idea. It is called socialism. It was only after they were given their own property and the responsibility of being self sufficient that inspired them. It doesn’t matter what the Indians told them. It wasn’t the Indians who took care of them, it was their own efforts. You must be reading the children’s version. Or maybe you have a certain settlement in mind that conforms to your story.

The Indians didn’t take care of them, they helped them out until they learned enough to take care of themselves. There IS a difference. I read that England advertised for people to go and live on this land. The only people who could afford to go were rich and thought that living here would be a fun adventure. The ads promised how America had lots of fish and game for the taking and loads of room and other great things. There was never any word about how there weren’t houses and that life would be full of danger by animals and people already living here. The sponsors didn’t want to scare people out of wanting to go. So off they went with only the most basic idea of what they would find. Which left them completely unprepared. The colonists muddled along as best they could until people started dying and the weather turned bad. All the while ships were bringing more and more people and supplies to America. The next year they asked a tribe or two of friendly Indians to help them so the second year wouldn’t be like the first. That’s when people started getting real skill sets. What you sound like you’re saying is that they were like “ho hum, no food again today it’s a nice day to die”. Which means you are condeming both the colonists AND the natives as people who were dumber than a box of rocks. So how do you think the natives who shared the first Thansgiving got to the party? They didn’t exactly crash it. Maybe other tribes tried to but not the guys that were invited.

OMG where do you get these ideas? Go do some research into the different colonies – there was more than one. They were from St. Augustine, Florida, founded in 1565 up through what is now Nova Scotia.

Fawnday, I have no more patience to continue this pointless thread with you, nor any interest or energy to educate you. Drop the old romantic tales. It is not what really happened.

Thank you, I was wondering who would leave first. I know there were lots of colonies. We may have been talking about two different ones. The one I was talking about was the Plymouth colony, the one everybody thinks of when they hear about the pilgrims. You might be right about the one you were talking about. Which means I probably can’t ask why the Indians decided to show up at the first Thanksgiving if they didn’t help anyone learn how to live with the most benefit and progress to their own selves. Heck, maybe there was even a turkey dinner at some of those Thanksgiving meals for all anyone knows. There wasn’t at Plymouth. But I do have a question. Glenn said yesterday on the radio that people will want to beware of trolls commenting on Conservative websites. Even though that’s not what I was doing do you think I Would make a good one? I’m thinking of maybe trying out for the part of there’s a sign-up sheet somewhere. Thanks.

LMAO ….. OMG ….. The troll comment – too funny.

God is the real farmer. Look at his work. He does a better job, doesn’t use chemicals, and his food never makes people sick or kills them.